Comments on: The Logic of Intercession http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/ with Mart De Haan and Friends Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:00:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Pranoykumar http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-710 Pranoykumar Sat, 26 Apr 2008 04:24:21 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-710 It is also an effort in intervention. See the desired result in ones life for whom we are praying. But in the first place this intervention helps the needy to understand his state, the reasons, the solution and the result otherwise. Abraham & Noah are our examples they exerise thier faith and to an exetent they intervened in favour of the welfare of the people they were concerned for. It is also an effort in intervention. See the desired result in ones life for whom we are praying.

But in the first place this intervention helps the needy to understand his state, the reasons, the solution and the result otherwise.

Abraham & Noah are our examples they exerise thier faith and to an exetent they intervened in favour of the welfare of the people they were concerned for.

]]> By: angelamckelvey http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-709 angelamckelvey Sat, 26 Apr 2008 02:01:52 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-709 I've been praying for two years for a man whose face I've not seen in over a year. Praying for God to change his heart. Praying for God to bring him back to the fold. Praying for God to break down the walls behind which he has become trapped. The man is my husband. I intend to continue praying...continue believing...and continue trusting until God answers my prayers. His answer will always be better than anything I might come up with. I agree with Dale Jarvis--in the natural realm intercession makes no sense. But when what goes on in the spiritual realm becomes reality in the natural realm...oh, what a day that will be. God has heard every word and caught every tear. I expect His answer to come every morning! I’ve been praying for two years for a man whose face I’ve not seen in over a year. Praying for God to change his heart. Praying for God to bring him back to the fold. Praying for God to break down the walls behind which he has become trapped. The man is my husband. I intend to continue praying…continue believing…and continue trusting until God answers my prayers. His answer will always be better than anything I might come up with. I agree with Dale Jarvis–in the natural realm intercession makes no sense. But when what goes on in the spiritual realm becomes reality in the natural realm…oh, what a day that will be. God has heard every word and caught every tear. I expect His answer to come every morning!

]]> By: daisymarygoldr http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-708 daisymarygoldr Fri, 25 Apr 2008 20:06:40 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-708 Ever wondered how Abraham might have felt when God destroyed Sodom…how David might have felt when God did not spare his baby boy…or Jesus Himself might have felt when the Father chose not to remove the cup He had to drink??? As Christians we do enjoy the privilege of ‘talking things out’ with our heavenly Father but we certainly cannot manipulate His will…we simply conform to it(Matt 6:10). The down side to being grown-ups is the lack of simple faith and the abundance of logic. Here is a cute one: A Kindergarten teacher asked one little girl what she was drawing. The girl replied,"I'm drawing God" to which the teacher replied, "But no one knows what God looks like." Without missing a beat, the girl replied, "They will in a minute." So, yes we do struggle with the results of prayer or the lack of it but we also relish every moment we get to pray(with a mature spiritual understanding) allowing God to shape within us a character rooted in faith, hope, love, grace, interdependence, endurance, and joy which is the measure of the full stature of Christ! Ever wondered how Abraham might have felt when God destroyed Sodom…how David might have felt when God did not spare his baby boy…or Jesus Himself might have felt when the Father chose not to remove the cup He had to drink??? As Christians we do enjoy the privilege of ‘talking things out’ with our heavenly Father but we certainly cannot manipulate His will…we simply conform to it(Matt 6:10). The down side to being grown-ups is the lack of simple faith and the abundance of logic.
Here is a cute one: A Kindergarten teacher asked one little girl what she was drawing. The girl replied,”I’m drawing God” to which the teacher replied, “But no one knows what God looks like.” Without missing a beat, the girl replied, “They will in a minute.”
So, yes we do struggle with the results of prayer or the lack of it but we also relish every moment we get to pray(with a mature spiritual understanding) allowing God to shape within us a character rooted in faith, hope, love, grace, interdependence, endurance, and joy which is the measure of the full stature of Christ!

]]> By: drkennyg http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-706 drkennyg Fri, 25 Apr 2008 17:57:56 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-706 I agree that sometimes I pray very short prayers for those I promise to pray for. Lately I have been more aware of this especially when I think of the blessings I have received when I do trust in my Lord and Savior Jesus. I get scared sometimes and wrongfully think I am too much in charge. But when I give it to God it is where is belongs; this does result in blessed relief. There are those I pray for daily and regardless of any outcome (even if I can't see it) I continue to do so. For example, my girl friend's step mom died last year, but some of her children are in prison. Even though I don't know them I still pray that God will touch their hearts and bring them to Christ. I agree that sometimes I pray very short prayers for those I promise to pray for. Lately I have been more aware of this especially when I think of the blessings I have received when I do trust in my Lord and Savior Jesus. I get scared sometimes and wrongfully think I am too much in charge. But when I give it to God it is where is belongs; this does result in blessed relief. There are those I pray for daily and regardless of any outcome (even if I can’t see it) I continue to do so. For example, my girl friend’s step mom died last year, but some of her children are in prison. Even though I don’t know them I still pray that God will touch their hearts and bring them to Christ.

]]> By: Gale L. Jarvis http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-704 Gale L. Jarvis Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:17:36 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-704 Good Morning everyone, Mart in the natural world there is no logic to intercesory prayer, but my life is centered around, and in living by faith. i believe when a person comes into my mind, that person has been placed there by the Holy Spirit, if i stop and pray for that person, God will reward me, but if i do not, someone else will pray for that person, that person needs help that i do not know about, but God does, and the Holy Spirit is praying for them, and desires for me to care for that person as He does, and join Him. Personnally i try to always ask the Holy Spirit to make the intercession for me, because i know i do not know how to pray for a person, or an event, i need the Holy Spirit's help always in all things, Proverbs 3 : 5,6, is my way of life, continually asking the Holy Spirit to guide me many times every day. I know others are praying for me, and the Holy Spirit has shown me to tie the golden rule to every thing in my life, if i desire for others to pray for me, i must pray for others. Good Morning everyone, Mart in the natural world there is no logic to intercesory prayer, but my life is centered around, and in living by faith.
i believe when a person comes into my mind, that person has been placed there by the Holy Spirit, if i stop and pray for that person, God will reward me, but if i do not, someone else will pray for that person, that person needs help that i do not know about, but God does, and the Holy Spirit is praying for them, and desires for me to care for that person as He does, and join Him.
Personnally i try to always ask the Holy Spirit to make the intercession for me, because i know i do not know how to pray for a person, or an event, i need the Holy Spirit’s help always in all things, Proverbs 3 : 5,6, is my way of life, continually asking the Holy Spirit to guide me many times every day.
I know others are praying for me, and the Holy Spirit has shown me to tie the golden rule to every thing in my life, if i desire for others to pray for me, i must pray for others.

]]> By: hal.fshr http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-703 hal.fshr Fri, 25 Apr 2008 12:07:17 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-703 A weekly devotional group of which I am part is studying Philip Yancey's book, Prayer - Does It Make Any Difference? One thought that stood out to me in the study is that prayer is in the business of changing me more than always giving me the right outomes I have asked for. I think this idea resonates with what Mart has been saying. A weekly devotional group of which I am part is studying Philip Yancey’s book, Prayer – Does It Make Any Difference? One thought that stood out to me in the study is that prayer is in the business of changing me more than always giving me the right outomes I have asked for. I think this idea resonates with what Mart has been saying.

]]> By: B Murphy http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-702 B Murphy Fri, 25 Apr 2008 10:39:13 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/04/24/the-logic-of-intercession/#comment-702 You are spot on. I pray big bold prayers believing they are answered, wondering if I am crazy. With heart felt desire to glorify our Lord, I trust Him to be a good God all the time. My human mind is tempted to doubt and fear and I have to practice the logic of faith, hope, love, grace, interdependence, endurance, and joy. My friends say they can feel our prayers because their burden is lighter and easier to bear. I prayed for good health and after three years of asking and believing I am healed. I prayed to be delivered from smoking, it took 8 years but it happened. I prayed for my broken heart to be healed, and everyday new joy washes away the old pain. And we have had those prayers that are answered NO! only to receive an answer better than our little human minds can dream up for ourselves. My friend who was miraculously cured of stage 4 cancer wonders why me? God has a great big plan. Prayer puts the plan into action. Trust Him. You are spot on. I pray big bold prayers believing they are answered, wondering if I am crazy. With heart felt desire to glorify our Lord, I trust Him to be a good God all the time. My human mind is tempted to doubt and fear and I have to practice the logic of faith, hope, love, grace, interdependence, endurance, and joy.

My friends say they can feel our prayers because their burden is lighter and easier to bear. I prayed for good health and after three years of asking and believing I am healed. I prayed to be delivered from smoking, it took 8 years but it happened. I prayed for my broken heart to be healed, and everyday new joy washes away the old pain. And we have had those prayers that are answered NO! only to receive an answer better than our little human minds can dream up for ourselves. My friend who was miraculously cured of stage 4 cancer wonders why me?

God has a great big plan. Prayer puts the plan into action. Trust Him.

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