Comments on: The Fear Factor http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/ with Mart De Haan and Friends Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:27:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: dejean33 http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1261 dejean33 Fri, 30 May 2008 20:09:50 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1261 Growing up I was blessed to have a wonderful Father. You did not choose Me, but I chose you ..... (John 15:16a) God choose me .... He hasn't forgotten that I am just dirt, dust, mud and clay ( Psalms 103:14 ) ! But you know what else I am ??? I'm Holy too ... Psalms 86:2. AND I'm sealed ... Ephesians 1:13 The kicker ??? ( I dont' want you to miss this, so I'm sending you to the text: Read - Job 13:15) In eternity past God WILLED to love me - God is counseld ( WHAT ?!? ) by His Will. Ephesians 1:11 Guys, Jesus said it was finished. ( John 19:30) Those 3 ... they couldn't lie ( even if they tried )Hebrews 6:18 - Thank You Father !!!!! Sometimes, in prayer or in a conversation about God, I have totally crossed over and called Him Dad. P.S. If You believe in Christ - His Life, Death, and Resurection, all these wonderful promises pertains to you too. Thanks Dad !!! Growing up I was blessed to have a wonderful Father.

You did not choose Me, but I chose you ….. (John 15:16a) God choose me …. He hasn’t forgotten that I am just dirt, dust, mud and clay ( Psalms 103:14 ) !

But you know what else I am ???

I’m Holy too … Psalms 86:2.

AND

I’m sealed … Ephesians 1:13

The kicker ??? ( I dont’ want you to miss this, so I’m sending you to the text: Read – Job 13:15)

In eternity past God WILLED to love me – God is counseld ( WHAT ?!? ) by His Will. Ephesians 1:11 Guys, Jesus said it was finished. ( John 19:30) Those 3 … they couldn’t lie ( even if they tried )Hebrews 6:18 – Thank You Father !!!!!

Sometimes, in prayer or in a conversation about God, I have totally crossed over and called Him Dad.

P.S. If You believe in Christ – His Life, Death, and Resurection, all these wonderful promises pertains to you too.

Thanks Dad !!!

]]> By: Elaa http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1195 Elaa Wed, 28 May 2008 03:34:33 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1195 I think just as a negative childhood experience of the fear of authority can influence how we relate to reverence for God, a positive childhood experience can help such a relationship. While on one or two occasions, I may have thought my parents used a sledge hammer to kill a fly, in terms of disciple, I don't recall ever considering their actions are unjust. They were such loving parents that not only did chastisement seem within their limits (ha), but they were also worthy of any extra mile necessary to comply with their expectations. I can't imagine God just chastising me because He is Almighty and can get away with anything. I would feel like an orphan, if I don't feel His chastisement (my conscience convicting me perhaps) when I step out of line. And I can't imagine wanting to draw up my own terms for living - not out of fear but out of gratitude, when the life I have is courtersy of a loving GOd. I think just as a negative childhood experience of the fear of authority can influence how we relate to reverence for God, a positive childhood experience can help such a relationship.

While on one or two occasions, I may have thought my parents used a sledge hammer to kill a fly, in terms of disciple, I don’t recall ever considering their actions are unjust. They were such loving parents that not only did chastisement seem within their limits (ha), but they were also worthy of any extra mile necessary to comply with their expectations.

I can’t imagine God just chastising me because He is Almighty and can get away with anything. I would feel like an orphan, if I don’t feel His chastisement (my conscience convicting me perhaps) when I step out of line. And I can’t imagine wanting to draw up my own terms for living – not out of fear but out of gratitude, when the life I have is courtersy of a loving GOd.

]]> By: Gale L. Jarvis http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1191 Gale L. Jarvis Tue, 27 May 2008 22:28:14 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1191 Good Evening everyone, Mart i read the blogs that was discussed over the weekend, my desire is to value the life of others as God does, it would not do much good for me to literly give up my life for another person, but i do have the power to put the desires of others over my desires for today. Valuing their desires to be more important than my own, the Lord has helped me through the Holy Spirit to be content with what ever state i am in, whereby what ever another person desires, my desire is to please them, unless it is not lawfull. The fear factor, i believe this is another word that can be, and has been translated, and used differently. I do not believe God desires for me to fear him in a way that if i do not do exactly what he says i am on his black list. i have come to know God in a way that i know God desires the very best for every human being, fearing as we know the word is not what God desires for a human to be living out in thier life. I believe God desires for us to love Him, in my opinion there is no way i can love someone i fear as we know the word. I desire to obey God in all my ways, because i know without a doubt God's ways are the best ways of living, and acknowlegeing God is the way for God to lead me, and i believe obedience is the key to the abundant life, not obedience out of fear, but obedience because this is the right way. Good Evening everyone, Mart i read the blogs that was discussed over the weekend, my desire is to value the life of others as God does, it would not do much good for me to literly give up my life for another person, but i do have the power to put the desires of others over my desires for today.
Valuing their desires to be more important than my own, the Lord has helped me through the Holy Spirit to be content with what ever state i am in, whereby what ever another person desires, my desire is to please them, unless it is not lawfull.
The fear factor, i believe this is another word that can be, and has been translated, and used differently.
I do not believe God desires for me to fear him in a way that if i do not do exactly what he says i am on his black list.
i have come to know God in a way that i know God desires the very best for every human being, fearing as we know the word is not what God desires for a human to be living out in thier life.
I believe God desires for us to love Him, in my opinion there is no way i can love someone i fear as we know the word.
I desire to obey God in all my ways, because i know without a doubt God’s ways are the best ways of living, and acknowlegeing God is the way for God to lead me, and i believe obedience is the key to the abundant life, not obedience out of fear, but obedience because this is the right way.

]]> By: Gena http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1190 Gena Tue, 27 May 2008 22:09:59 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1190 Like those who posted before me today, fear of God to me is about respect/reverence to God - not shakin' in my boots afraid. I have a healthy fear of my employer, but sometimes I don't trust him and over compensate in some ways where I really needn't. The secular world probably thinks us Christians are a funny group of people who go around trying to do the right thing and getting legalistic, worrying about the wrath of God. I think when Jesus returns, every knee and head shall bow in reverance to Him. His Glory will be such that we will prostate ourselves before Him. Like those who posted before me today, fear of God to me is about respect/reverence to God – not shakin’ in my boots afraid. I have a healthy fear of my employer, but sometimes I don’t trust him and over compensate in some ways where I really needn’t. The secular world probably thinks us Christians are a funny group of people who go around trying to do the right thing and getting legalistic, worrying about the wrath of God. I think when Jesus returns, every knee and head shall bow in reverance to Him. His Glory will be such that we will prostate ourselves before Him.

]]> By: pegramsdell http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1188 pegramsdell Tue, 27 May 2008 19:07:29 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1188 I agree that we need to have a reverentual respect (fear) of the Lord. But it is hard sometimes to give, when growing up, you were more afraid of your parents than revered them. However, it is not impossible to learn how to love and have a healthy respect for those in authority. Nothing is impossible with God. I agree that we need to have a reverentual respect (fear) of the Lord. But it is hard sometimes to give, when growing up, you were more afraid of your parents than revered them. However, it is not impossible to learn how to love and have a healthy respect for those in authority. Nothing is impossible with God.

]]> By: hal.fshr http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1187 hal.fshr Tue, 27 May 2008 17:56:01 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1187 Without being overly simplistic, it seems to me that the fear of the Lord refers to a reverentual respect. Having grown up in a loving Christian family, I had the idea of respecting my parents impressed upon me especially during the teen years. I did not fear my father but knew I couldn't step over the line of showing disrespect to him or my mom. This illustrates the reverence we should show to our Creator. In the bigger picture of fear in general, I would agree with Augustine that fear is a God given emotion. The young mother who worries about her sick baby is a legimate function of fear. However, to overly obsess with a worried attitude is not the biblical way. Without being overly simplistic, it seems to me that the fear of the Lord refers to a reverentual respect. Having grown up in a loving Christian family, I had the idea of respecting my parents impressed upon me especially during the teen years. I did not fear my father but knew I couldn’t step over the line of showing disrespect to him or my mom. This illustrates the reverence we should show to our Creator.
In the bigger picture of fear in general, I would agree with Augustine that fear is a God given emotion. The young mother who worries about her sick baby is a legimate function of fear. However, to overly obsess with a worried attitude is not the biblical way.

]]> By: daisymarygoldr http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1186 daisymarygoldr Tue, 27 May 2008 16:57:52 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1186 We fear God when it comes to sin but we are never afraid to run into His arms while smarting with the pain of sin. It is the same with our biological fathers too. There is no fear in love because His love leads us to trust Him even to the point of “Though he slays me, yet will I trust in him” (Job 13:15)! BTW, just found out the other day that there is no mention of a cat in the Bible:( We fear God when it comes to sin but we are never afraid to run into His arms while smarting with the pain of sin. It is the same with our biological fathers too. There is no fear in love because His love leads us to trust Him even to the point of “Though he slays me, yet will I trust in him” (Job 13:15)!
BTW, just found out the other day that there is no mention of a cat in the Bible:(

]]> By: mike ajibola http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1185 mike ajibola Tue, 27 May 2008 16:52:48 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1185 At every stage of fear and dispair, a still voice always ring in our hear that fear not I'm here. that voice is no other than the voice of God. Fear has no good produt to offer than to take away what is advantageous to us. What amazed me most is that we fear nature and have no fear for God. They sin continually and refuse to honour God in the life. I've learn to trust God for my up keep than to fear nature that I have no control over but GOD DO! At every stage of fear and dispair, a still voice always ring in our hear that fear not I’m here. that voice is no other than the voice of God. Fear has no good produt to offer than to take away what is advantageous to us. What amazed me most is that we fear nature and have no fear for God. They sin continually and refuse to honour God in the life. I’ve learn to trust God for my up keep than to fear nature that I have no control over but GOD DO!

]]> By: BruceC http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1184 BruceC Tue, 27 May 2008 16:48:26 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1184 First, let start off by saying thanks to you and all the others here at RBC! Your ministry has been a blessing to my wife and I and many others that we know. May the Lord continue to bless all of you. Your post is thought provoking as usual/. During our time here we are confronted will many challenges and trials. I believe that the Lord is telling us not to look at them and tremble no matter how "fearful" they be; but to look at Him. The battle is the Lord's. He helps us through so many things. He is saying that He will be with us and because of that we can trust Him and not be afraid. When we are tld to fear Him it is to hold Him up in awe, honor, respect, and reverence. Be fearful of disobedience, not just because He chastens those whom He loves; but also because of a possible break in fellowship amd saddening of His heart that His child did not listen or heed. But this I know...He is always there ready to restore us to His fellowship and forgive. What a wonderful saviour He is!!! First, let start off by saying thanks to you and all the others here at RBC! Your ministry has been a blessing to my wife and I and many others that we know. May the Lord continue to bless all of you.
Your post is thought provoking as usual/. During our time here we are confronted will many challenges and trials. I believe that the Lord is telling us not to look at them and tremble no matter how “fearful” they be; but to look at Him. The battle is the Lord’s. He helps us through so many things. He is saying that He will be with us and because of that we can trust Him and not be afraid. When we are tld to fear Him it is to hold Him up in awe, honor, respect, and reverence. Be fearful of disobedience, not just because He chastens those whom He loves; but also because of a possible break in fellowship amd saddening of His heart that His child did not listen or heed. But this I know…He is always there ready to restore us to His fellowship and forgive. What a wonderful saviour He is!!!

]]> By: estuardo http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/05/27/the-fear-factor/#comment-1183 estuardo Tue, 27 May 2008 16:01:11 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=173#comment-1183 I can definately relate to the unhealthy fear of God that you mention. My attempt to work through this involves extensive therapy, and a very small try at asking God to help me trust him more. Of course I don't say it with much confidence, waiting for the shoe to drop. Still waiting to see how this will work. I'll keep you posted. I can definately relate to the unhealthy fear of God that you mention. My attempt to work through this involves extensive therapy, and a very small try at asking God to help me trust him more. Of course I don’t say it with much confidence, waiting for the shoe to drop. Still waiting to see how this will work. I’ll keep you posted.

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