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		<title>By: Ceelojr</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1303</link>
		<dc:creator>Ceelojr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 14:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have to admit Mart, this is a real deep issue with me. I&#039;ve been going to church since I was six, and preaching since I was seven. Became a theologian, evangelist, then an ordained minister because I loved the study of the word so much, but I have found myself in situations where the word resonates in my head to follow up as a rebuke on the conduct and behaviors of others (I did this a lot with my ex-wife). God has shown me and confirmed through this selfless ministry of yours that He wants me to use scripture as a tool for discerning and not judging. Discernment takes place in a inward manner versus judging which excercises itself outwardly. This &quot;epifany&quot; has encouraged me to share in the nature in which we all fail to live up to the glorious standards upheld in God&#039;s law and to reflect on His grace and love for all of us. We are all in the process of being transformed; that&#039;s what His word does for me at least. The more I share my genuine struggle in this process and allow God&#039;s word to speak to me, the more I can be an example and comfort others in the midst of their own shortcomings. Through The Word I see myself, the world, our past, present and future. This comfort I now receive is what I share instead of an outward rebuke towards others. May God continue to empower you with these revelations. Thank you Mart!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have to admit Mart, this is a real deep issue with me. I&#8217;ve been going to church since I was six, and preaching since I was seven. Became a theologian, evangelist, then an ordained minister because I loved the study of the word so much, but I have found myself in situations where the word resonates in my head to follow up as a rebuke on the conduct and behaviors of others (I did this a lot with my ex-wife). God has shown me and confirmed through this selfless ministry of yours that He wants me to use scripture as a tool for discerning and not judging. Discernment takes place in a inward manner versus judging which excercises itself outwardly. This &#8220;epifany&#8221; has encouraged me to share in the nature in which we all fail to live up to the glorious standards upheld in God&#8217;s law and to reflect on His grace and love for all of us. We are all in the process of being transformed; that&#8217;s what His word does for me at least. The more I share my genuine struggle in this process and allow God&#8217;s word to speak to me, the more I can be an example and comfort others in the midst of their own shortcomings. Through The Word I see myself, the world, our past, present and future. This comfort I now receive is what I share instead of an outward rebuke towards others. May God continue to empower you with these revelations. Thank you Mart!</p>
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		<title>By: Gena</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1298</link>
		<dc:creator>Gena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 09:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know a sweet lady who was raised in a fine christian home and is still actively involved in her christian life as a wife and mother.  She once told me that she is always looking for fresh opportunities to keep the bible alive and I believe she truly does.  Her son she says...appears to have left his &quot;first love&quot; and she knows he needs to get back.  Her daughter is fine and still living a christian life as a wife and mother herself.  But I know other fine christians who are busy serving the Lord, but who never give me a call &quot;Hello&quot; except if they need financial support.  I guess what I am saying is... perhaps like Solomon we will all come full circle, but along the way don&#039;t forget to love the Lord with all your heart and all your mind and keep friends and family included ...God loves them and watches over them too ~ your family and friends will want the joy you have and will want to make the Lord their Savior too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know a sweet lady who was raised in a fine christian home and is still actively involved in her christian life as a wife and mother.  She once told me that she is always looking for fresh opportunities to keep the bible alive and I believe she truly does.  Her son she says&#8230;appears to have left his &#8220;first love&#8221; and she knows he needs to get back.  Her daughter is fine and still living a christian life as a wife and mother herself.  But I know other fine christians who are busy serving the Lord, but who never give me a call &#8220;Hello&#8221; except if they need financial support.  I guess what I am saying is&#8230; perhaps like Solomon we will all come full circle, but along the way don&#8217;t forget to love the Lord with all your heart and all your mind and keep friends and family included &#8230;God loves them and watches over them too ~ your family and friends will want the joy you have and will want to make the Lord their Savior too.</p>
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		<title>By: aoluleye</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1297</link>
		<dc:creator>aoluleye</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jun 2008 03:15:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many thanks for this reading. When Christianity is our Faith; then we are like Christ. When it is our religion; then we are inventing things. Our Lord Jesus Christ showed the way. Every circumstance was used to advance the Kingdom business of His Father. It enveloped Him. It was His faith. As a teenager, I slipped too. How regretful because the years rolled by without being in the Lord. This brings it firmly. When we relate to God; thats when we are living. Every other thing/way is trash. God Bless.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many thanks for this reading. When Christianity is our Faith; then we are like Christ. When it is our religion; then we are inventing things. Our Lord Jesus Christ showed the way. Every circumstance was used to advance the Kingdom business of His Father. It enveloped Him. It was His faith. As a teenager, I slipped too. How regretful because the years rolled by without being in the Lord. This brings it firmly. When we relate to God; thats when we are living. Every other thing/way is trash. God Bless.</p>
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		<title>By: daisymarygoldr</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1295</link>
		<dc:creator>daisymarygoldr</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 23:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah-Ha! The Bible is a window not only for people born and raised in Christian homes but also for those in non-Christian homes.

After living a “meaningless” life spent in a vain pursuit of wisdom, wealth and women, I, Solomon the wisest and wealthiest king, the son of David, hereby conclude- “Fear God and obey his commands, for this is the duty of every person”. 

However, there is a greater than Solomon- Jesus Christ the King of Kings, son of David, Son of God even the ‘Wisdom of God’ whom God chose to reveal- not to the wise n’ wealthy nor the powerful and influential but to the foolish, weak, lowly and despised things of this world!

Even as we live in an age where everyone is caught up in a foolish frenzy to gain the whole world only to eventually find everything to be utterly “meaningless”, it is a blessed privilege for followers of Christ to abide in the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ the Wisdom of God and Him crucified (1Cor 2:2)!

Ah-Ha! A yellow window is a good picture of the Bible filtering in the bright sunshine of God’s Wisdom into every dark heart:)  

Gale L. Jarvis, you are a true embodiment of Christ-like wisdom. I have personally benefited from your sagely advice that you hand out every now and then. Praying for your A.L.S…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah-Ha! The Bible is a window not only for people born and raised in Christian homes but also for those in non-Christian homes.</p>
<p>After living a “meaningless” life spent in a vain pursuit of wisdom, wealth and women, I, Solomon the wisest and wealthiest king, the son of David, hereby conclude- “Fear God and obey his commands, for this is the duty of every person”. </p>
<p>However, there is a greater than Solomon- Jesus Christ the King of Kings, son of David, Son of God even the ‘Wisdom of God’ whom God chose to reveal- not to the wise n’ wealthy nor the powerful and influential but to the foolish, weak, lowly and despised things of this world!</p>
<p>Even as we live in an age where everyone is caught up in a foolish frenzy to gain the whole world only to eventually find everything to be utterly “meaningless”, it is a blessed privilege for followers of Christ to abide in the saving knowledge of Jesus Christ the Wisdom of God and Him crucified (1Cor 2:2)!</p>
<p>Ah-Ha! A yellow window is a good picture of the Bible filtering in the bright sunshine of God’s Wisdom into every dark heart:)  </p>
<p>Gale L. Jarvis, you are a true embodiment of Christ-like wisdom. I have personally benefited from your sagely advice that you hand out every now and then. Praying for your A.L.S…</p>
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		<title>By: Gale L. Jarvis</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1294</link>
		<dc:creator>Gale L. Jarvis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 21:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good Evening everyone, Mart, I believe for some people, in which i believe i am one of them, advercity, sickness, disease, and others things is what some of us seem to need to stay close to the Lord, even though i do not enjoy some of the things i believe satan has put on me the last few years, my desire to spend more time with the Lord, and to help others find the Lord has not been greater for many years, and because i believe spending time with the Lord first thing every morning, and desiring direction from the Holy Spirit throughout the day, and desiring to be doing some thing for someone else every day is one of my purposes in life.
Loosing my wife Joy a little over 2 years ago, was very depressing for awhile, recieving the news I have A.L.S. about 9 months ago, added another reason to find out why i needed this also, these are terrible things that have happened that possibly could have been avoided if i would have opened my eyes to what all God had given me, but i believe Solomon was not much different than most of us today, we take God for granite, and every thing He has given us, and we do get complacent without even noticing it.
Treasure the moments we have with God, and with your spouse, and those close to you, God loves you, Mart loves each of you, and i love, and desire to find a way that we could all get together even in this life.
Nothing is impossible.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good Evening everyone, Mart, I believe for some people, in which i believe i am one of them, advercity, sickness, disease, and others things is what some of us seem to need to stay close to the Lord, even though i do not enjoy some of the things i believe satan has put on me the last few years, my desire to spend more time with the Lord, and to help others find the Lord has not been greater for many years, and because i believe spending time with the Lord first thing every morning, and desiring direction from the Holy Spirit throughout the day, and desiring to be doing some thing for someone else every day is one of my purposes in life.<br />
Loosing my wife Joy a little over 2 years ago, was very depressing for awhile, recieving the news I have A.L.S. about 9 months ago, added another reason to find out why i needed this also, these are terrible things that have happened that possibly could have been avoided if i would have opened my eyes to what all God had given me, but i believe Solomon was not much different than most of us today, we take God for granite, and every thing He has given us, and we do get complacent without even noticing it.<br />
Treasure the moments we have with God, and with your spouse, and those close to you, God loves you, Mart loves each of you, and i love, and desire to find a way that we could all get together even in this life.<br />
Nothing is impossible.</p>
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		<title>By: GodsBride</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1292</link>
		<dc:creator>GodsBride</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 19:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know all about being raised in a home where both father and mother are ministers of God. Church was our second home. All of my life (as far back as I can remember), I&#039;ve been in church. I began studying the Bible when I was about 10 years old--learned it just about through and through. But just like Solomon, I lost focus. I tried everything I could THINK of to try that was contrary to God&#039;s Word. Finally, God allowed me to see myself, and I &quot;saw&quot; GOD. I came back to God at the age of 21--let me tell you: GOD IS FAITHFUL! For awhile, I was one of those &quot;legalistic, proud&quot; people, but thank You, Jesus! God showed me His &quot;heart&quot;--what it REALLY means to be called a &quot;daughter, a son&quot;. His love taught me love; His Spirit enabled me to know Him as He is known. To try and love Him with all my heart, soul, mind, and spirit now enables me to not only strive to love others as myself, but to rely on the Holy Ghost to enable me to love as He ordained. I&#039;m certainly NOT perfect--not by a LONG shot, but everyday, Poohpity, I&#039;m reminded of what God did for me. I&#039;m reminded of how even when I was &quot;faithless&quot; AND &quot;unfaithful&quot;, He did NOT deny Himself! I love nature; I adore it! In the sun, I see God. At night, in the stars, I see God. In my husband and children&#039;s faces, I see the love of God. When the trees are gently bowing in the wind, I SEE GOD. Even when I struggle and suffer, He &quot;holds&quot; me, and whispers &quot;sweet SOMEthings&quot;!Everyday, THAT is enough to rekindle my &quot;love affair&quot; with the LORD. I CAN&#039;T forget what the LORD has done for me, and brought me out of. I&#039;m not above &quot;slipping&quot;; but with God &quot;upholding&quot; me (as long as I allow Him), I trust that I won&#039;t fall.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know all about being raised in a home where both father and mother are ministers of God. Church was our second home. All of my life (as far back as I can remember), I&#8217;ve been in church. I began studying the Bible when I was about 10 years old&#8211;learned it just about through and through. But just like Solomon, I lost focus. I tried everything I could THINK of to try that was contrary to God&#8217;s Word. Finally, God allowed me to see myself, and I &#8220;saw&#8221; GOD. I came back to God at the age of 21&#8211;let me tell you: GOD IS FAITHFUL! For awhile, I was one of those &#8220;legalistic, proud&#8221; people, but thank You, Jesus! God showed me His &#8220;heart&#8221;&#8211;what it REALLY means to be called a &#8220;daughter, a son&#8221;. His love taught me love; His Spirit enabled me to know Him as He is known. To try and love Him with all my heart, soul, mind, and spirit now enables me to not only strive to love others as myself, but to rely on the Holy Ghost to enable me to love as He ordained. I&#8217;m certainly NOT perfect&#8211;not by a LONG shot, but everyday, Poohpity, I&#8217;m reminded of what God did for me. I&#8217;m reminded of how even when I was &#8220;faithless&#8221; AND &#8220;unfaithful&#8221;, He did NOT deny Himself! I love nature; I adore it! In the sun, I see God. At night, in the stars, I see God. In my husband and children&#8217;s faces, I see the love of God. When the trees are gently bowing in the wind, I SEE GOD. Even when I struggle and suffer, He &#8220;holds&#8221; me, and whispers &#8220;sweet SOMEthings&#8221;!Everyday, THAT is enough to rekindle my &#8220;love affair&#8221; with the LORD. I CAN&#8217;T forget what the LORD has done for me, and brought me out of. I&#8217;m not above &#8220;slipping&#8221;; but with God &#8220;upholding&#8221; me (as long as I allow Him), I trust that I won&#8217;t fall.</p>
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		<title>By: desert rose</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1289</link>
		<dc:creator>desert rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:25:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mart, thank you for your response.  I am going to read your brochure.  Sometimes I think we need to look at what our spiritual altitude is.  Maybe we under estimate the spiritual warfare that is going on and we become complacent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mart, thank you for your response.  I am going to read your brochure.  Sometimes I think we need to look at what our spiritual altitude is.  Maybe we under estimate the spiritual warfare that is going on and we become complacent.</p>
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		<title>By: Seyi</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1288</link>
		<dc:creator>Seyi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 18:15:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with your perspective...
Knowing the Bible is actually a very great thing, however just knowing the Word again as you said can leave one feeling high and mighty. Something even more important that merely knowing the Word is looking at the world through the words of the Bible. Seeing the word, truth and wisdom of God in ordinary events that happen day by day and living a life according to the word.
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Funny you should mention Solomon, because recently I was consumed by a desire for worldly things (specifically money...not that money is bad, but the love of money should never overshadow the Love of God)  but for some reason I couldn&#039;t gain the satisfaction in desiring and actively pursuing these things. I then tried to understand how everything in life fit together, while saying that I know it&#039;s through God, yet thinking outside God. Well, definately I was filled with extreme depression at the futility of life...to heighten things, God directed me to read te whole of Ecclesiastes...
At first the depression seemed endless until I started progressing through the book and God actually showed me that there is no life without Him.
And thanks be to God, right now I can live my life loving Him and deciding nothing shall ever take His place (#1) in my life again!
yh well...guess I wanted to share this as a testimony and as an agreement to you post about Solomon</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with your perspective&#8230;<br />
Knowing the Bible is actually a very great thing, however just knowing the Word again as you said can leave one feeling high and mighty. Something even more important that merely knowing the Word is looking at the world through the words of the Bible. Seeing the word, truth and wisdom of God in ordinary events that happen day by day and living a life according to the word.<br />
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Funny you should mention Solomon, because recently I was consumed by a desire for worldly things (specifically money&#8230;not that money is bad, but the love of money should never overshadow the Love of God)  but for some reason I couldn&#8217;t gain the satisfaction in desiring and actively pursuing these things. I then tried to understand how everything in life fit together, while saying that I know it&#8217;s through God, yet thinking outside God. Well, definately I was filled with extreme depression at the futility of life&#8230;to heighten things, God directed me to read te whole of Ecclesiastes&#8230;<br />
At first the depression seemed endless until I started progressing through the book and God actually showed me that there is no life without Him.<br />
And thanks be to God, right now I can live my life loving Him and deciding nothing shall ever take His place (#1) in my life again!<br />
yh well&#8230;guess I wanted to share this as a testimony and as an agreement to you post about Solomon</p>
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		<title>By: Mart De Haan</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1287</link>
		<dc:creator>Mart De Haan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:45:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poohpity,
Your words/story resonate. I could have written them as my own.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poohpity,<br />
Your words/story resonate. I could have written them as my own.</p>
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		<title>By: Mart De Haan</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/06/01/bible-ah-ha-12/#comment-1286</link>
		<dc:creator>Mart De Haan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Jun 2008 17:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>desert rose, apart from the record of Ecclesiastes there doesn&#039;t seem to be any indication that Solomon came to his senses. I&#039;m working from the assumption that Ecclesiastes is an inspired record of his spiritual lapse and eventual conclusion. The last chapter seems to reflect the words of a man in advanced age encouraging the young to avoid his mistakes. If someone else later wrote Ecclesiastes as Solomon&#039;s story, it still describes him as coming to his senses in the end.

As to whether real believers can wander so far from God, I&#039;m convinced that a child of God can fall into the same sins as anyone else. That&#039;s the idea behind our brochure, &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.rbc.org/bookChapters.aspx?id=46272&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&quot;Ten Reasons to Believe Real Christians Can Look Like They&#039;re Not.&quot;&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>desert rose, apart from the record of Ecclesiastes there doesn&#8217;t seem to be any indication that Solomon came to his senses. I&#8217;m working from the assumption that Ecclesiastes is an inspired record of his spiritual lapse and eventual conclusion. The last chapter seems to reflect the words of a man in advanced age encouraging the young to avoid his mistakes. If someone else later wrote Ecclesiastes as Solomon&#8217;s story, it still describes him as coming to his senses in the end.</p>
<p>As to whether real believers can wander so far from God, I&#8217;m convinced that a child of God can fall into the same sins as anyone else. That&#8217;s the idea behind our brochure, <a href="http://www.rbc.org/bookChapters.aspx?id=46272" rel="nofollow">&#8220;Ten Reasons to Believe Real Christians Can Look Like They&#8217;re Not.&#8221;</a></p>
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