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		<title>By: infiniti07</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/08/19/while-phelps-wins-gold-others-are-going-under/#comment-2322</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 13:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot begin to compare my struggles with what some of you go through in your life journey.  I can only tell you that when I go through the &quot;valleys&quot; in my journey, it also seems that I sometimes go through it alone.  Thankfully, I reach a point where the Holy Spirit reminds me of how I first came to trust in Jesus, that he endured pain when he did not deserve it and even he felt abandoned on the cross.  Yet he was faithful to the Father and he was resurrected into the life that all believers hope for.  We live for a hope and an everlasting life that is not in our present physical world because this WILL come to past.  We look forward to a new home in heaven that is right beside our God...that is worth waiting for and enduring pain and struggles.  Christ gives me eternal hope, not short term material gain.  The mental anguish of feeling alone, forgotten and rejected is enormous and unbearable for us at times but Christ&#039;s example and victory is ours to share because this is God&#039;s promise and He will never leave or reject us and if we are faithful, our short span of time on earth will seem to be a blemish in the eternal span of time.  I hope you can take comfort in some of the poems I wrote for myself to get through some of my tougher times...they&#039;re not over but the hope has not failed me.  May God&#039;s face shine on you.

Sharing the Journey
(March 28/06)

Because He first loved me, I am able to see;
In my mind’s eye what He wants me to be,
God patiently waits for me to respond;
With complete trust from now to the end.

God’s faith in me, never waivers one bit;
Because He already knows, how things in my life fits.
God patiently waits for me to respond;
With complete confidence from now to the end.

The reason why things are the way they turn out;
It takes life’s experiences to show me the route.
To help others see every step of the way;
The way God brings joy, to them some day.

God patiently waits for me to respond;
With complete faith from now to the end.

Journey through the Valley
(October 30/06)

In my minds eye, I am traveling through the valley
Joy in life doesn’t seem to be in my alley.
My thoughts travel up and then they go low;
But then I know of that which I must let go.

Where is the Lord, He seems so far away?
Will he lift the burden and show me not to stray?
Prayer is a struggle and words become shallow;
But then I know of that which I must let go

Turn to the Lord and let Him have his way;
With all that I do I must trust and obey
Then something comes up, a glimmer of hope
I will go from the valley out of the slippery slope
 

Journey through the Mountains
(Dec 5/06)

I’m on higher ground, the Lord took me there
And because He is near, I will not despair;
The journey is long and the view is wide
But I must look straight ahead and know He is by my side.

More times than not the path will be rocky,
It will bend and twist and turn and be bumpy;
But when the going gets tough I will always know 
The path to take is the straight and narrow.

It’s not so easy just to know and to ponder
About life’s difficult trials when you begin to wonder;
As the climb up the mountain becomes tougher and tougher
Is He still there as the going gets rougher?

And then the relentless climb seems to come to an end
But suddenly an obstacle comes right around the bend
Too tough to climb up, to go around or under,
It seems impossible, you begin to wonder.

But just when you think that all is lost
The Lord follows through and you count the cost
Of churning your wheels and going at length
Through stressing and straining within your own strength

He was there all the time quietly waiting for you
To accept His guidance and to know that it’s true
That your journey could be shorter without the strain;
When you depend on Him to relieve the pain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot begin to compare my struggles with what some of you go through in your life journey.  I can only tell you that when I go through the &#8220;valleys&#8221; in my journey, it also seems that I sometimes go through it alone.  Thankfully, I reach a point where the Holy Spirit reminds me of how I first came to trust in Jesus, that he endured pain when he did not deserve it and even he felt abandoned on the cross.  Yet he was faithful to the Father and he was resurrected into the life that all believers hope for.  We live for a hope and an everlasting life that is not in our present physical world because this WILL come to past.  We look forward to a new home in heaven that is right beside our God&#8230;that is worth waiting for and enduring pain and struggles.  Christ gives me eternal hope, not short term material gain.  The mental anguish of feeling alone, forgotten and rejected is enormous and unbearable for us at times but Christ&#8217;s example and victory is ours to share because this is God&#8217;s promise and He will never leave or reject us and if we are faithful, our short span of time on earth will seem to be a blemish in the eternal span of time.  I hope you can take comfort in some of the poems I wrote for myself to get through some of my tougher times&#8230;they&#8217;re not over but the hope has not failed me.  May God&#8217;s face shine on you.</p>
<p>Sharing the Journey<br />
(March 28/06)</p>
<p>Because He first loved me, I am able to see;<br />
In my mind’s eye what He wants me to be,<br />
God patiently waits for me to respond;<br />
With complete trust from now to the end.</p>
<p>God’s faith in me, never waivers one bit;<br />
Because He already knows, how things in my life fits.<br />
God patiently waits for me to respond;<br />
With complete confidence from now to the end.</p>
<p>The reason why things are the way they turn out;<br />
It takes life’s experiences to show me the route.<br />
To help others see every step of the way;<br />
The way God brings joy, to them some day.</p>
<p>God patiently waits for me to respond;<br />
With complete faith from now to the end.</p>
<p>Journey through the Valley<br />
(October 30/06)</p>
<p>In my minds eye, I am traveling through the valley<br />
Joy in life doesn’t seem to be in my alley.<br />
My thoughts travel up and then they go low;<br />
But then I know of that which I must let go.</p>
<p>Where is the Lord, He seems so far away?<br />
Will he lift the burden and show me not to stray?<br />
Prayer is a struggle and words become shallow;<br />
But then I know of that which I must let go</p>
<p>Turn to the Lord and let Him have his way;<br />
With all that I do I must trust and obey<br />
Then something comes up, a glimmer of hope<br />
I will go from the valley out of the slippery slope</p>
<p>Journey through the Mountains<br />
(Dec 5/06)</p>
<p>I’m on higher ground, the Lord took me there<br />
And because He is near, I will not despair;<br />
The journey is long and the view is wide<br />
But I must look straight ahead and know He is by my side.</p>
<p>More times than not the path will be rocky,<br />
It will bend and twist and turn and be bumpy;<br />
But when the going gets tough I will always know<br />
The path to take is the straight and narrow.</p>
<p>It’s not so easy just to know and to ponder<br />
About life’s difficult trials when you begin to wonder;<br />
As the climb up the mountain becomes tougher and tougher<br />
Is He still there as the going gets rougher?</p>
<p>And then the relentless climb seems to come to an end<br />
But suddenly an obstacle comes right around the bend<br />
Too tough to climb up, to go around or under,<br />
It seems impossible, you begin to wonder.</p>
<p>But just when you think that all is lost<br />
The Lord follows through and you count the cost<br />
Of churning your wheels and going at length<br />
Through stressing and straining within your own strength</p>
<p>He was there all the time quietly waiting for you<br />
To accept His guidance and to know that it’s true<br />
That your journey could be shorter without the strain;<br />
When you depend on Him to relieve the pain.</p>
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		<title>By: micki-b</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/08/19/while-phelps-wins-gold-others-are-going-under/#comment-2293</link>
		<dc:creator>micki-b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Aug 2008 02:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dx-7 &amp; trying to trust God... i am where you guys are.  we are all 3 of us just hanging on trying to keep trusting Someone that we know is good all the time but we aren&#039;t too sure that it is good for us...  Lots of suffering and misery and agony.  we will hang in there anyway.  God bless you both, even thru your pain and suffering.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dx-7 &amp; trying to trust God&#8230; i am where you guys are.  we are all 3 of us just hanging on trying to keep trusting Someone that we know is good all the time but we aren&#8217;t too sure that it is good for us&#8230;  Lots of suffering and misery and agony.  we will hang in there anyway.  God bless you both, even thru your pain and suffering.</p>
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		<title>By: mondieu4vie</title>
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		<dc:creator>mondieu4vie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Aug 2008 02:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear hurting heart,
I offer what solace I can, given to me by the grace of God. Do you personally think there is a purpose in human suffering? Is it all punishment? Are we just pawns in this powerful culmination (and hopefully, soon, climax) of prophesy and divine planning? No. I wish to be very humble about this point; I believe pain, suffering are as a direct result of that death of innocence in Adam. Understand, I don’t mean to get philosophical about something so deeply personal. I believe to suffer is the lot of man until either death or rapture. Our Lord is the light within the tempest of our lives, the lifeline. But that doesn’t stop us from being hit by every incarnation of human suffering. That is one part of the reason why Jesus came in the first place: to show us where that lifeline lies, exactly. We pain, we hurt and are hurt, but God still remains. I can imagine that after such abuse, you wondered about your own self-worth. Whether God loved you, or whether you were even worth His love. Perhaps even now you might wonder whether your struggles and tribulations are as a result of it. Simple truth: None are worthy. All are essentially at the mercy and wrath of the Ever Living God. And guess what? The message: “God loved us so much that He sent His only begotten son…” isn’t there by accident. His mercy and comfort IS there, though not always in what we can see and/or touch .Michael Phelps has his ‘dreams’ at the Olympics fulfilled. Have you thought about the prize at the end of YOUR road? He has trained for months on end, in the pool to achieve this; Day and night, to swim for his goals. Heads up Hurting Heart, for ALL YOUR LIFE you have been through the fires of hurt and pain, anguish, self-doubt and probably a powerful conscience. Let’s not forget temptations, having to watch others suffer too, personal mistakes and worst of all, attacks from the VERY present Enemy. My fellow Christian, your trials and testing are far beyond Michael’s, how much so will your prize be when the Lord calls you from his service? Be at peace Hurting Heart, the very worst than man and his suffering can heap on you is death…which will lead you straight into the arms of God. Be encouraged…</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear hurting heart,<br />
I offer what solace I can, given to me by the grace of God. Do you personally think there is a purpose in human suffering? Is it all punishment? Are we just pawns in this powerful culmination (and hopefully, soon, climax) of prophesy and divine planning? No. I wish to be very humble about this point; I believe pain, suffering are as a direct result of that death of innocence in Adam. Understand, I don’t mean to get philosophical about something so deeply personal. I believe to suffer is the lot of man until either death or rapture. Our Lord is the light within the tempest of our lives, the lifeline. But that doesn’t stop us from being hit by every incarnation of human suffering. That is one part of the reason why Jesus came in the first place: to show us where that lifeline lies, exactly. We pain, we hurt and are hurt, but God still remains. I can imagine that after such abuse, you wondered about your own self-worth. Whether God loved you, or whether you were even worth His love. Perhaps even now you might wonder whether your struggles and tribulations are as a result of it. Simple truth: None are worthy. All are essentially at the mercy and wrath of the Ever Living God. And guess what? The message: “God loved us so much that He sent His only begotten son…” isn’t there by accident. His mercy and comfort IS there, though not always in what we can see and/or touch .Michael Phelps has his ‘dreams’ at the Olympics fulfilled. Have you thought about the prize at the end of YOUR road? He has trained for months on end, in the pool to achieve this; Day and night, to swim for his goals. Heads up Hurting Heart, for ALL YOUR LIFE you have been through the fires of hurt and pain, anguish, self-doubt and probably a powerful conscience. Let’s not forget temptations, having to watch others suffer too, personal mistakes and worst of all, attacks from the VERY present Enemy. My fellow Christian, your trials and testing are far beyond Michael’s, how much so will your prize be when the Lord calls you from his service? Be at peace Hurting Heart, the very worst than man and his suffering can heap on you is death…which will lead you straight into the arms of God. Be encouraged…</p>
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		<title>By: dx7</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/08/19/while-phelps-wins-gold-others-are-going-under/#comment-2193</link>
		<dc:creator>dx7</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 22 Aug 2008 16:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Trying To Trust God..

I think it&#039;s bloody unfair sometimes too and I get so sick of it. Forgive me for the following rant - I need to get this off my chest as well.

I was fantastic at all sorts of sports, a good student, not bad at music. But I was born with atopic eczema and couldn&#039;t take the sun and heat so my mother and doctor didn&#039;t allow me to do any sports. I came down with severe depression at 12, my school grades dropped and I lost many chances to go into good schools. I lost interest in almost everything including music and stopped playing musical instruments. 

Why did God give me these gifts to have them crushed? 

Somehow I made it to univerisity and did my first degree abroad. Some good Christian people found me and stuck with my weirdness and craziness caused from anti-depressants. Just when I felt I was progressing spiritually, my course ended and I had to return home.

Why did God give me good friends and help me progress and then make me leave? 

After graduating I held a job for two months but left severely traumatised from bullying and being overworked. I couldn&#039;t find another job. My parents got me to study again - said I couldn&#039;t just sit at home. Ended up studying for another degree abroad. I&#039;ve had a miserable three years with eating problems, depression, being racially discriminated against. The students here - they copy other people&#039;s work and pay people to do their assignments for them. They rip pages out of library books to prevent other people from accessing them. So many have come to me asking for lecture notes and exam notes and I give what I have to them, but when I ask them for help they refuse to help or say yes and then conveniently forget.

I work so hard and do not copy or cheat, but what is the point of being honest and hardworking when those who copy and cheat and are selfish get ahead with good marks and get places in top firms? What is the point of being nice when you just get trampled on? Why does God make their lives so smooth - they don&#039;t even care about God - yet make mine so painful?

I am homosexual but have never acted on it. Everyone has different views on homosexuality. I feel that God does not want me to act on it. I see other homosexuals acting on it and have wonderful lives. Why am I suffering?

Lots of times I cry myself to sleep telling God I cannot take it anymore and He should never have created me. I beg Him to kill me please, to destroy my existence, make it so I never existed. I get so feddup and frustrated.. I hate God sometimes. And I don&#039;t know why I hang on to God still for dear life. Day by day, just trying to make it through.

It really sucks for some people. It&#039;s bloody unfair. I don&#039;t know why. I don&#039;t know what to say about your situation Trying To Trust God. But you must hang in there. You have to. I don&#039;t know why. You just must hang in there with all your might. Just hang in there.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Trying To Trust God..</p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s bloody unfair sometimes too and I get so sick of it. Forgive me for the following rant &#8211; I need to get this off my chest as well.</p>
<p>I was fantastic at all sorts of sports, a good student, not bad at music. But I was born with atopic eczema and couldn&#8217;t take the sun and heat so my mother and doctor didn&#8217;t allow me to do any sports. I came down with severe depression at 12, my school grades dropped and I lost many chances to go into good schools. I lost interest in almost everything including music and stopped playing musical instruments. </p>
<p>Why did God give me these gifts to have them crushed? </p>
<p>Somehow I made it to univerisity and did my first degree abroad. Some good Christian people found me and stuck with my weirdness and craziness caused from anti-depressants. Just when I felt I was progressing spiritually, my course ended and I had to return home.</p>
<p>Why did God give me good friends and help me progress and then make me leave? </p>
<p>After graduating I held a job for two months but left severely traumatised from bullying and being overworked. I couldn&#8217;t find another job. My parents got me to study again &#8211; said I couldn&#8217;t just sit at home. Ended up studying for another degree abroad. I&#8217;ve had a miserable three years with eating problems, depression, being racially discriminated against. The students here &#8211; they copy other people&#8217;s work and pay people to do their assignments for them. They rip pages out of library books to prevent other people from accessing them. So many have come to me asking for lecture notes and exam notes and I give what I have to them, but when I ask them for help they refuse to help or say yes and then conveniently forget.</p>
<p>I work so hard and do not copy or cheat, but what is the point of being honest and hardworking when those who copy and cheat and are selfish get ahead with good marks and get places in top firms? What is the point of being nice when you just get trampled on? Why does God make their lives so smooth &#8211; they don&#8217;t even care about God &#8211; yet make mine so painful?</p>
<p>I am homosexual but have never acted on it. Everyone has different views on homosexuality. I feel that God does not want me to act on it. I see other homosexuals acting on it and have wonderful lives. Why am I suffering?</p>
<p>Lots of times I cry myself to sleep telling God I cannot take it anymore and He should never have created me. I beg Him to kill me please, to destroy my existence, make it so I never existed. I get so feddup and frustrated.. I hate God sometimes. And I don&#8217;t know why I hang on to God still for dear life. Day by day, just trying to make it through.</p>
<p>It really sucks for some people. It&#8217;s bloody unfair. I don&#8217;t know why. I don&#8217;t know what to say about your situation Trying To Trust God. But you must hang in there. You have to. I don&#8217;t know why. You just must hang in there with all your might. Just hang in there.</p>
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		<title>By: poohpity</title>
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		<dc:creator>poohpity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 19:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying to trust God,

I am confused how you figure that the life of Abraham, Jacob, David and Solomon were considered blessed without struggle. I have read their stories many times and have found that they were blessed with struggles. I have never read about anyone in scripture who was without struggles, no one and I ask you to show me who. Example: Let&#039;s just consider the life of Abraham. He was shown a land that was promised to His descendants and was never able to go there. He was promised that his descendants would be more than the stars in the sky or the sand in the desert, did he ever see the fulfillment of those. He wanted a son and that did not happen until he was 100 years old, except that he took matters into his own hands and had Ismael who&#039;s descendants have created radical Islam. David&#039;s son died because he had an affair and killed someone and not to mention the new testament people who were stoned, whipped, beheaded, hung upside down on a cross, put in jail, starved, homeless, made fun of and not to mention Jesus who being Himself God went through being whipped with a whip with shards of metal and glass that ripped His body to where it was unrecognizable as human flesh and then had nails driven into His hands and feet while He suffocated until death so that we could approach a Holy God. If there is nothing else to be thankful for when we die we will be accepted into a place where there will be no more pain, suffering or tears.

I alone have spent the the majority of my childhood being physically and emotionally abused. I had 4 Hip surgeries before the age of 15 and 5 more since. I had a person (my first husband) knock my eye through my eye socket and my skull cracked open(with 2 pool sticks) trying to defend someone who could not defend himself. I empathize with you in your suffering but in my life and those that have suffered in the bible no one is exempt from suffering and it does not mean anyone is loved anymore than anyone else. I believe you are blessed because you are able to experience the sadness that the Lord feels for us and experienced for us when He did not deserve it. You can see and feel the pain He feels for us when He sees us in times of trouble. Through this period in your life embrace it because one day YOU will be able to comfort someone else who is going through what you are going through because there will be someone else someday and then you will be able to bring them HOPE.

I love God very much and trust Him with my life because I know He loves me because of what He did on the cross and if nothing else ever happens, That I think is a blessing, That proves His love for us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying to trust God,</p>
<p>I am confused how you figure that the life of Abraham, Jacob, David and Solomon were considered blessed without struggle. I have read their stories many times and have found that they were blessed with struggles. I have never read about anyone in scripture who was without struggles, no one and I ask you to show me who. Example: Let&#8217;s just consider the life of Abraham. He was shown a land that was promised to His descendants and was never able to go there. He was promised that his descendants would be more than the stars in the sky or the sand in the desert, did he ever see the fulfillment of those. He wanted a son and that did not happen until he was 100 years old, except that he took matters into his own hands and had Ismael who&#8217;s descendants have created radical Islam. David&#8217;s son died because he had an affair and killed someone and not to mention the new testament people who were stoned, whipped, beheaded, hung upside down on a cross, put in jail, starved, homeless, made fun of and not to mention Jesus who being Himself God went through being whipped with a whip with shards of metal and glass that ripped His body to where it was unrecognizable as human flesh and then had nails driven into His hands and feet while He suffocated until death so that we could approach a Holy God. If there is nothing else to be thankful for when we die we will be accepted into a place where there will be no more pain, suffering or tears.</p>
<p>I alone have spent the the majority of my childhood being physically and emotionally abused. I had 4 Hip surgeries before the age of 15 and 5 more since. I had a person (my first husband) knock my eye through my eye socket and my skull cracked open(with 2 pool sticks) trying to defend someone who could not defend himself. I empathize with you in your suffering but in my life and those that have suffered in the bible no one is exempt from suffering and it does not mean anyone is loved anymore than anyone else. I believe you are blessed because you are able to experience the sadness that the Lord feels for us and experienced for us when He did not deserve it. You can see and feel the pain He feels for us when He sees us in times of trouble. Through this period in your life embrace it because one day YOU will be able to comfort someone else who is going through what you are going through because there will be someone else someday and then you will be able to bring them HOPE.</p>
<p>I love God very much and trust Him with my life because I know He loves me because of what He did on the cross and if nothing else ever happens, That I think is a blessing, That proves His love for us.</p>
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		<title>By: chfranke</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/08/19/while-phelps-wins-gold-others-are-going-under/#comment-2162</link>
		<dc:creator>chfranke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 12:20:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying To Trust God,
You are on the right track!  Thank you for staying with us and continuing to share your heart with us.  You are taking a powerful step by doing that.  You are working out your next steps here.
First, you have not failed.  You are going through a process.  Yes, it is a painful process but let me assure you that you are making progress. 
We are witnesses to you.  We have all gone through a similar process; perhaps not as extreme as yours, but we all have our own stories of pain and struggle to tell.  As witnesses, we are testifying truthfully that we got through it and so will you.  
Next, in regard to what causes you the most pain: “knowing there IS a God who can do all things, but chooses to remain silent.”  He loves you so much that he lets you choose how you will relate to Him.  You are angry and are working through that anger.  That’s great!  Please understand that you determine what comes next.  
Listen to our testimonies.  They are real!  Especially, kaliko88: “I’m not sure what started me turning back. Several things and people, if my memory is true, drew me in. I do know, though, that eventually I realized I could be mad at God all I wanted, but He wasn’t the one to be angry at. I could be mad at the people who hurt me, but some I never saw again and others were those I also loved the most. There was no point in being angry with no one to be angry at, and it hurt too much to stay angry at the ones I could forgive and love again.”
There are so many resources on this website.  Look at 10 Reasons To Believe; God Offers the Perfect Gift.
If you don’t have a church family, find a Christian church with sound doctrine.  Check out several and find one where your family will feel comfortable and welcomed.
I’ll let others share, too.
God bless you, Trying To Find God!  You will.  I promise.  I&#039;ll be praying for you, too.
Chuck</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying To Trust God,<br />
You are on the right track!  Thank you for staying with us and continuing to share your heart with us.  You are taking a powerful step by doing that.  You are working out your next steps here.<br />
First, you have not failed.  You are going through a process.  Yes, it is a painful process but let me assure you that you are making progress.<br />
We are witnesses to you.  We have all gone through a similar process; perhaps not as extreme as yours, but we all have our own stories of pain and struggle to tell.  As witnesses, we are testifying truthfully that we got through it and so will you.<br />
Next, in regard to what causes you the most pain: “knowing there IS a God who can do all things, but chooses to remain silent.”  He loves you so much that he lets you choose how you will relate to Him.  You are angry and are working through that anger.  That’s great!  Please understand that you determine what comes next.<br />
Listen to our testimonies.  They are real!  Especially, kaliko88: “I’m not sure what started me turning back. Several things and people, if my memory is true, drew me in. I do know, though, that eventually I realized I could be mad at God all I wanted, but He wasn’t the one to be angry at. I could be mad at the people who hurt me, but some I never saw again and others were those I also loved the most. There was no point in being angry with no one to be angry at, and it hurt too much to stay angry at the ones I could forgive and love again.”<br />
There are so many resources on this website.  Look at 10 Reasons To Believe; God Offers the Perfect Gift.<br />
If you don’t have a church family, find a Christian church with sound doctrine.  Check out several and find one where your family will feel comfortable and welcomed.<br />
I’ll let others share, too.<br />
God bless you, Trying To Find God!  You will.  I promise.  I&#8217;ll be praying for you, too.<br />
Chuck</p>
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		<title>By: forteag</title>
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		<dc:creator>forteag</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 11:09:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Trying To Trust God

I do not know why Psalms 2 came into my spirit and I am sure you have read it many times.  

However for all it&#039;s worth you can read it again.

These 3 verses are offered as a start

7 The king proclaims the Lord’s decree:
   “The Lord said to me, ‘You are my son.
      Today I have become your Father.
 8 Only ask, and I will give you the nations as your inheritance,the whole earth as your possession.
 9 You will break[d] them with an iron rod
      and smash them like clay pots.’

Sammy</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trying To Trust God</p>
<p>I do not know why Psalms 2 came into my spirit and I am sure you have read it many times.  </p>
<p>However for all it&#8217;s worth you can read it again.</p>
<p>These 3 verses are offered as a start</p>
<p>7 The king proclaims the Lord’s decree:<br />
   “The Lord said to me, ‘You are my son.<br />
      Today I have become your Father.<br />
 8 Only ask, and I will give you the nations as your inheritance,the whole earth as your possession.<br />
 9 You will break[d] them with an iron rod<br />
      and smash them like clay pots.’</p>
<p>Sammy</p>
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		<title>By: tish</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/08/19/while-phelps-wins-gold-others-are-going-under/#comment-2160</link>
		<dc:creator>tish</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 09:19:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>dear hurting, i can identify with you in these pains and yes sometimes i do compare myself with others as you have.i have been there before and i am still there so i know  how u feel.i keep failing my pappers and its not b&#039;cos i dont study,iam 30 and single and my relationships seem not to last,i&#039;m in a financial constraint as i write now,my carear seems to be stand still and a whole lot of complicated issues
the temptation is great when it comes to living to please God in the midst of all these pains. why will GOD not answer my prayers, how long should i pray about it?when i keep getting  disappointed?
yes i do feel this way sometimes. but i always take solace in the word of GOD. that is the only thing that keeps me going.i can not count the many blessings i recieve from God every day. but when it comes to certain areas in my life, he seems to be sient,i dont understand and i know i&#039;ll not understand because i,m short sighted and he is long sighted
what i do know from his word is that he sometimes uses pain for our good--JOSEPH, JOB , JEREMIAH at least God&#039;s answer to jeremiah in his quest to know why certain people prosper in JER.12, shows how God will allow us to suffer in order for us to be strenghend in areas where we&#039;re weak.Joseph had to go through all that he went through to prepare him for the task that was ahead of him in the end he became humble and more sensitive to the needs of others(a character that he did not have when he was in his fathers house)
Job went through all that in order for God to be glorified in his life, that those who did not know the God he served will come to appreciate him more
 dear hurting, i want to encourage you as i have come to encourage myself in the word of God, to hold on in the faith you have in God,that no matter what you go through He&#039;ll use it for your good</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>dear hurting, i can identify with you in these pains and yes sometimes i do compare myself with others as you have.i have been there before and i am still there so i know  how u feel.i keep failing my pappers and its not b&#8217;cos i dont study,iam 30 and single and my relationships seem not to last,i&#8217;m in a financial constraint as i write now,my carear seems to be stand still and a whole lot of complicated issues<br />
the temptation is great when it comes to living to please God in the midst of all these pains. why will GOD not answer my prayers, how long should i pray about it?when i keep getting  disappointed?<br />
yes i do feel this way sometimes. but i always take solace in the word of GOD. that is the only thing that keeps me going.i can not count the many blessings i recieve from God every day. but when it comes to certain areas in my life, he seems to be sient,i dont understand and i know i&#8217;ll not understand because i,m short sighted and he is long sighted<br />
what i do know from his word is that he sometimes uses pain for our good&#8211;JOSEPH, JOB , JEREMIAH at least God&#8217;s answer to jeremiah in his quest to know why certain people prosper in JER.12, shows how God will allow us to suffer in order for us to be strenghend in areas where we&#8217;re weak.Joseph had to go through all that he went through to prepare him for the task that was ahead of him in the end he became humble and more sensitive to the needs of others(a character that he did not have when he was in his fathers house)<br />
Job went through all that in order for God to be glorified in his life, that those who did not know the God he served will come to appreciate him more<br />
 dear hurting, i want to encourage you as i have come to encourage myself in the word of God, to hold on in the faith you have in God,that no matter what you go through He&#8217;ll use it for your good</p>
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		<title>By: tplog</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/08/19/while-phelps-wins-gold-others-are-going-under/#comment-2159</link>
		<dc:creator>tplog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 08:39:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All of this assumes that Michael Phelps has no struggles or pain and that winning &quot;Gold&quot; is good.  I do not know if this is good for M Phelps.  All I know is that he won gold medals and at this moment in time appears to be very happy about it.  Don&#039;t confuse &quot;happy&quot; with the true joy we know in Christ.  Pauls letter to the church in Philippi makes it clear that Joy can accompany suffering.  It is more about attitude than present physical conditions that &quot;make us happy&quot;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All of this assumes that Michael Phelps has no struggles or pain and that winning &#8220;Gold&#8221; is good.  I do not know if this is good for M Phelps.  All I know is that he won gold medals and at this moment in time appears to be very happy about it.  Don&#8217;t confuse &#8220;happy&#8221; with the true joy we know in Christ.  Pauls letter to the church in Philippi makes it clear that Joy can accompany suffering.  It is more about attitude than present physical conditions that &#8220;make us happy&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: ryan</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/08/19/while-phelps-wins-gold-others-are-going-under/#comment-2158</link>
		<dc:creator>ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 07:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear all,
Matthias Steiner of Germany won the men&#039;s weightlifting gold medal on Tuesday in Beijing Olympics and the right to call himself the world&#039;s strongest man. He heaved a total of 461kg in the men&#039;s super heavyweight category for the gold. What made this gold medal special is that, a year ago, he lost his beloved wife in a car accident. He grieves the lost. Once a weightlifter for Austria, he had setbacks in his career/sports as well. 
On Tuesday, on the winners podium, he held a photo of his wife in one hand and the medal in the other. I draw great encouragement from his story. The lost a love one is a heavy weight to bear, but he showed us strength in grace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear all,<br />
Matthias Steiner of Germany won the men&#8217;s weightlifting gold medal on Tuesday in Beijing Olympics and the right to call himself the world&#8217;s strongest man. He heaved a total of 461kg in the men&#8217;s super heavyweight category for the gold. What made this gold medal special is that, a year ago, he lost his beloved wife in a car accident. He grieves the lost. Once a weightlifter for Austria, he had setbacks in his career/sports as well.<br />
On Tuesday, on the winners podium, he held a photo of his wife in one hand and the medal in the other. I draw great encouragement from his story. The lost a love one is a heavy weight to bear, but he showed us strength in grace.</p>
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