Comments on: Coney Wise http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/ with Mart De Haan and Friends Fri, 12 Mar 2010 22:28:05 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: drkennyg http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3018 drkennyg Tue, 21 Oct 2008 20:38:28 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3018 To be ignorant means simply to lack the knowledge. It does not imply a lack of intelligence that is given to us by our Creator. While mankind is not at all getting smarter he is becoming less ignorant. Trouble is that the amount of knowledge becomes more and more extensive leading to the popularized phase "the more you know the more you don't know" or "answer one question and get two more", etc. I liked the entry about using memorized verses as defense against the evil one. There are many roads that humans travel down either together or alone that most often lead to no avail. As for me I finally chose the narrow path while following Christ who will lead me to better places if I do His Will. As Christians we are citizens of Heaven To be ignorant means simply to lack the knowledge. It does not imply a lack of intelligence that is given to us by our Creator. While mankind is not at all getting smarter he is becoming less ignorant. Trouble is that the amount of knowledge becomes more and more extensive leading to the popularized phase “the more you know the more you don’t know” or “answer one question and get two more”, etc. I liked the entry about using memorized verses as defense against the evil one.

There are many roads that humans travel down either together or alone that most often lead to no avail. As for me I finally chose the narrow path while following Christ who will lead me to better places if I do His Will. As Christians we are citizens of Heaven

]]> By: rokdude5 http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3017 rokdude5 Tue, 21 Oct 2008 16:05:48 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3017 Its interesting to see that, yes, we are hidden from Satan by keeping (perhaps memorizing) God's Word in our heart. Ps 119:11. And so true for me is that I dont get all the "nutrients" of God's Word the first time around. I need to read, and re-read the passage over and over again, gleaning wonderful tidbits of insights and guidance for me. Ps 1:2-3 I do agree that the English translation from ancient languages is loose and clumsy. Recently at my church, we started a Bible study looking intensely at this issue. For example, I just found out that Isiah 53 was written in a "masculine" tense. The English language is gender-neutral so I was clueless about this whole issue. While us believers know who Isiah 53 is referring to, those who dont believe in Jesus as the Messiah would say that Is 53 refers to the nation of Israel. However, the Hebrew language would refer to the nation of Israel in a feminine tense. (Maybe I got this twisted around?) This trouble the Jews so much that they elimnated Is 53 from their Old Testament. Its interesting to see that, yes, we are hidden from Satan by keeping (perhaps memorizing) God’s Word in our heart. Ps 119:11. And so true for me is that I dont get all the “nutrients” of God’s Word the first time around. I need to read, and re-read the passage over and over again, gleaning wonderful tidbits of insights and guidance for me. Ps 1:2-3

I do agree that the English translation from ancient languages is loose and clumsy. Recently at my church, we started a Bible study looking intensely at this issue. For example, I just found out that Isiah 53 was written in a “masculine” tense. The English language is gender-neutral so I was clueless about this whole issue.

While us believers know who Isiah 53 is referring to, those who dont believe in Jesus as the Messiah would say that Is 53 refers to the nation of Israel. However, the Hebrew language would refer to the nation of Israel in a feminine tense. (Maybe I got this twisted around?) This trouble the Jews so much that they elimnated Is 53 from their Old Testament.

]]> By: sitsathisfeet http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3016 sitsathisfeet Tue, 21 Oct 2008 15:54:22 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3016 In our worship the kids love to sing the Praise song Jesus is the Rock and do the motion. The chorus is Rock of Ages, Jesus is the Rock. There is no Rock, no other Rock like ours.... The people while singing will clap their hands and then when we say Jesus is the Rock, one hand flat the other fisted hits the flat hand. A beautiful illustration for all to see, we also do some signing (American sign Language) which the people really enjoy, another illustration of the 'concreteness' of God's word. We also from time to time do a biblical alphabet, which is great for anyone to meditate on the Word. Rock or stone is particularly prolific in the Bible and the scripture I recall recently is this from 1 Peter 2:6-8 (NIV) (Isaiah 40:6-8) See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame. Now to you who believe the stone is precious. But those who do not believe, The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, and A stone that causes men to stumble, and a rock that makes them fall. Also the Word states He, Jesus, is the living stone, and we are his chosen people. Wow, How awesome is that? In our worship the kids love to sing the Praise song Jesus is the Rock and do the motion. The chorus is Rock of Ages, Jesus is the Rock. There is no Rock, no other Rock like ours…. The people while singing will clap their hands and then when we say Jesus is the Rock, one hand flat the other fisted hits the flat hand. A beautiful illustration for all to see, we also do some signing (American sign Language) which the people really enjoy, another illustration of the ‘concreteness’ of God’s word. We also from time to time do a biblical alphabet, which is great for anyone to meditate on the Word. Rock or stone is particularly prolific in the Bible and the scripture I recall recently is this from 1 Peter 2:6-8 (NIV) (Isaiah 40:6-8) See, I lay a stone in Zion, a chosen and precious cornerstone, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame. Now to you who believe the stone is precious. But those who do not believe, The stone the builders rejected has become the capstone, and A stone that causes men to stumble, and a rock that makes them fall. Also the Word states He, Jesus, is the living stone, and we are his chosen people. Wow, How awesome is that?

]]> By: daisymarygoldr http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3014 daisymarygoldr Tue, 21 Oct 2008 14:09:28 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3014 Did read about the Conies in the Bible but did not know much about them…very interesting info and loved all the cool things about this cute little creature- especially when a weak guy can genetically boast about the strongest living relative! The Conies hiding in the rock reminds me of God hiding Moses in the cleft of the rock (Exo 33:21). Having enjoyed a life-long, personal relationship with “The Rock”, Moses’ last words to his people (Deut 32) described the attributes of the “Rock of ages” and as you said, that rock was Christ (1 Cor 10:4). In addition to His provision of protection in the hollow of the rock, Christ is also the firm foundation on which we build our faith. He is always faithful; never changes and His promises never fail. In Ps 18:2, David refers to Him as, "The Lord is my Rock and Fortress, my deliverer, my God in whom I will trust." To stand upon the rock is symbolic of placing our “trust” in Christ. If we are not wise like the Coney, we may place our trust in other “rocks”- human wisdom and ideas …but their rock is not like our Rock (Deut. 32:31). The Coney is feeble, but then he is strong and safe in the rock. In Jesus, the weak are strong, His strength is made perfect in our weakness and that is why for Christ's sake, (we) delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions and in difficulties (2 Cor 12:10)! Did read about the Conies in the Bible but did not know much about them…very interesting info and loved all the cool things about this cute little creature- especially when a weak guy can genetically boast about the strongest living relative!

The Conies hiding in the rock reminds me of God hiding Moses in the cleft of the rock (Exo 33:21). Having enjoyed a life-long, personal relationship with “The Rock”, Moses’ last words to his people (Deut 32) described the attributes of the “Rock of ages” and as you said, that rock was Christ (1 Cor 10:4).

In addition to His provision of protection in the hollow of the rock, Christ is also the firm foundation on which we build our faith. He is always faithful; never changes and His promises never fail. In Ps 18:2, David refers to Him as, “The Lord is my Rock and Fortress, my deliverer, my God in whom I will trust.” To stand upon the rock is symbolic of placing our “trust” in Christ. If we are not wise like the Coney, we may place our trust in other “rocks”- human wisdom and ideas …but their rock is not like our Rock (Deut. 32:31).

The Coney is feeble, but then he is strong and safe in the rock. In Jesus, the weak are strong, His strength is made perfect in our weakness and that is why for Christ’s sake, (we) delight in weaknesses, in insults, in hardships, in persecutions and in difficulties (2 Cor 12:10)!

]]> By: rdrcomp http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3013 rdrcomp Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:05:54 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3013 Rock Badgers hiding in the rock. It seems that all of creation shouts redemption, and I am so glad that RBC began the wonderofcreation blog because Dean Ohlman is leading discussions that proclaim just that. And I am reminded that as God told Adam (which includes you and me) to manage and care for the earth, the fish, birds and rock badgers, He is saying that we need to get on track with this, because our stewardship has been pretty shoddy. Our planet is suffering, and creation is waiting eagerly for redemption where it will be set free from its slavery to corruption (see Romans 8: 18-22) As has been commented above, I am glad to be hidden in the Rock, but that doesn't mean to just hide out and not be involved in the work where Christ wants us, because as heirs with Christ, we have a summons, and part of the call is to care for all that Jesus cares for, and that certainly includes proclaiming the gospel to the lost, and also to care for all of creation. Rock Badgers hiding in the rock. It seems that all of creation shouts redemption, and I am so glad that RBC began the wonderofcreation blog because Dean Ohlman is leading discussions that proclaim just that. And I am reminded that as God told Adam (which includes you and me) to manage and care for the earth, the fish, birds and rock badgers, He is saying that we need to get on track with this, because our stewardship has been pretty shoddy. Our planet is suffering, and creation is waiting eagerly for redemption where it will be set free from its slavery to corruption (see Romans 8: 18-22)

As has been commented above, I am glad to be hidden in the Rock, but that doesn’t mean to just hide out and not be involved in the work where Christ wants us, because as heirs with Christ, we have a summons, and part of the call is to care for all that Jesus cares for, and that certainly includes proclaiming the gospel to the lost, and also to care for all of creation.

]]> By: peg http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3012 peg Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:05:25 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3012 "Take me there to the place where You are Take me there, Take me there... I just want to be where You are, Hide me in Your shelter, Hide me there, Hide me there.... I just want to be where You are." I love this song, and I love it when I'm hidden with Christ. On the Rock. In the Rock. Hidden from evil. Sounds great. Thanks. “Take me there to the place where You are
Take me there, Take me there…
I just want to be where You are,
Hide me in Your shelter,
Hide me there, Hide me there….
I just want to be where You are.”

I love this song, and I love it when I’m hidden with Christ. On the Rock. In the Rock. Hidden from evil.
Sounds great. Thanks.

]]> By: SFDBWV http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3011 SFDBWV Tue, 21 Oct 2008 11:02:56 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3011 I love how the "Word of God" is and continues to prove it is ahead of our scientific understanding. As in the example of the coney's digestive system. Here an unassuming rodent has hidden in him the fact that the Word of God is acurate by simply stating it chews cud. Though science has to have full knowledge of this critter, the Bible is right it still chews cud. Proverbs 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard;consider her ways, and be wise. If we are to believe, and I do not, that we are getting smarter and more enlightened and more intelligent as we progress as a humans. That many thousands of years ago we were ignorant. Here in this simple verse is hidden the truth that all ants are female. Known to the writer of Proverbs. We also are hidden in the "Truth" of Gods plan for all creation. I love how the “Word of God” is and continues to prove it is ahead of our scientific understanding. As in the example of the coney’s digestive system. Here an unassuming rodent has hidden in him the fact that the Word of God is acurate by simply stating it chews cud. Though science has to have full knowledge of this critter, the Bible is right it still chews cud.

Proverbs 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard;consider her ways, and be wise.
If we are to believe, and I do not, that we are getting smarter and more enlightened and more intelligent as we progress as a humans. That many thousands of years ago we were ignorant. Here in this simple verse is hidden the truth that all ants are female. Known to the writer of Proverbs.

We also are hidden in the “Truth” of Gods plan for all creation.

]]> By: BruceC http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3010 BruceC Tue, 21 Oct 2008 10:45:40 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3010 Mart, Very good article! I'm happy to be a little conie; hidden in the......Rock of Ages, cleft for me! BruceC/Upstate New York Mart,
Very good article! I’m happy to be a little conie; hidden in the……Rock of Ages, cleft for me!

BruceC/Upstate New York

]]> By: stehan http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3007 stehan Tue, 21 Oct 2008 04:11:05 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3007 Mart, thank you for yet another interesting and thought provoking post! Learned a thing or two about the Coney - and until now didn't realize what was referred to in Scripture, is the same little critter we have here "in our back yard" in Cape Town on and around Table Mountain! Around here it's known as a Dassie [Pronounced "Das-see"] and besides the Elephant being "closely related", I can certainly see how similar we are to these "feeble folk"... ;-) StèHan | South Africa Mart, thank you for yet another interesting and thought provoking post! Learned a thing or two about the Coney – and until now didn’t realize what was referred to in Scripture, is the same little critter we have here “in our back yard” in Cape Town on and around Table Mountain!

Around here it’s known as a Dassie [Pronounced "Das-see"] and besides the Elephant being “closely related”, I can certainly see how similar we are to these “feeble folk”… ;-)

StèHan | South Africa

]]> By: plumbape http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/20/coney-wise/#comment-3006 plumbape Tue, 21 Oct 2008 02:36:31 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1571#comment-3006 I see. Sometimes I am to literal minded, I see now how it implies "not able to see it yet". Been reading to many code books and manuals. Never heard of the coney but I like the illustration which is what I love about Our Daily Bread. Sometimes I've been thinking about where do these good people come up with all this data and info. which is followed by a bit of the Word to feed the soul! Thank You and God Bless You and RBC Michael I see. Sometimes I am to literal minded, I see now how it implies “not able to see it yet”. Been reading to many code books and manuals. Never heard of the coney but I like the illustration which is what I love about Our Daily Bread. Sometimes I’ve been thinking about where do these good people come up with all this data and info. which is followed by a bit of the Word to feed the soul! Thank You and God Bless You and RBC

Michael

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