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		<title>By: SFDBWV</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/23/this-is-a-football/#comment-3048</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 22:22:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>plumbape,   I realy enjoyed your analogy. It reminded me of a time I was told that Jesus saves. However when I responded by asking saved from what. All I got was dumb stares.

Your thoughts concerning RBC reminded me of 1 Thessalonians chapter 5 verse 11, &quot;Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.&quot; Verse 12, &quot;And we beseech you, brethern, to know them which labour among you and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you.&quot;

Thank you Robert for your kind words, thank you Mart for this wonderful blog. Thanks to all of you who share this medium in seeking to know and grow in our Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>plumbape,   I realy enjoyed your analogy. It reminded me of a time I was told that Jesus saves. However when I responded by asking saved from what. All I got was dumb stares.</p>
<p>Your thoughts concerning RBC reminded me of 1 Thessalonians chapter 5 verse 11, &#8220;Wherefore comfort yourselves together, and edify one another, even as also ye do.&#8221; Verse 12, &#8220;And we beseech you, brethern, to know them which labour among you and are over you in the Lord, and admonish you.&#8221;</p>
<p>Thank you Robert for your kind words, thank you Mart for this wonderful blog. Thanks to all of you who share this medium in seeking to know and grow in our Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: plumbape</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/23/this-is-a-football/#comment-3043</link>
		<dc:creator>plumbape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I heard a story about a young man that was terrible at math &amp; not yet Holy in Spirit. So he decided to steal the teacher&#039;s answer book before a big test. He did that only to find he had all the ANSWERS but none of the questions! Years later he was very Holy in Spirit and still terrible at math but he saw a sign that read Jesus is the Answer which someone had painted under it What was the Question! This led his ministering in a new path because he realized he had learned the Bible by seeking the Lord through school but was now giving the church just the answers without the thought provoking questions it sometimes takes years to sink in, maybe never. I take courses from RBC to re-learn and go out doing my plumbing and thinking about what I learned, letting Christ work in me. I&#039;m grateful for a place that I can get answers and communicate with people living there life all over the planet that have a common interest! Amen</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I heard a story about a young man that was terrible at math &amp; not yet Holy in Spirit. So he decided to steal the teacher&#8217;s answer book before a big test. He did that only to find he had all the ANSWERS but none of the questions! Years later he was very Holy in Spirit and still terrible at math but he saw a sign that read Jesus is the Answer which someone had painted under it What was the Question! This led his ministering in a new path because he realized he had learned the Bible by seeking the Lord through school but was now giving the church just the answers without the thought provoking questions it sometimes takes years to sink in, maybe never. I take courses from RBC to re-learn and go out doing my plumbing and thinking about what I learned, letting Christ work in me. I&#8217;m grateful for a place that I can get answers and communicate with people living there life all over the planet that have a common interest! Amen</p>
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		<title>By: plumbape</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/23/this-is-a-football/#comment-3042</link>
		<dc:creator>plumbape</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 02:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DMG thank you for explaining what I asked in the last post, and it may not work in the Church as you said but it is enlightening to know!
Thank You Mart for once again guiding the topic along so well. Or expert coaching, not that any of the professional players on the team needed the basics gone over. :-) I am always open to Bible Basics and love learning more ways to think about and then applying what I&#039;ve learned in my everyday life with Jesus and any and all I meet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DMG thank you for explaining what I asked in the last post, and it may not work in the Church as you said but it is enlightening to know!<br />
Thank You Mart for once again guiding the topic along so well. Or expert coaching, not that any of the professional players on the team needed the basics gone over. :-) I am always open to Bible Basics and love learning more ways to think about and then applying what I&#8217;ve learned in my everyday life with Jesus and any and all I meet.</p>
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		<title>By: poohpity</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/23/this-is-a-football/#comment-3041</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know we can pass a football and we can pass kindness, grace and mercy as well. If we keep it to ourselves it soon dries up and becomes hard.

Like a cell phone we have to plug into God&#039;s word to charge our battery. Like a PDA when we read it everyday we can have the bible written on our hearts to be brought up whenever needed and do not have to carry it around to keep our hands tied up so they can be available to do God&#039;s work.

The basics of God&#039;s word keeps it simple and in these days anything that is simple has my vote. Here is a KISS for you, Keep It Simple Saint. Jesus summed it all up very simply Love God and He will teach you to love others like He has loved you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know we can pass a football and we can pass kindness, grace and mercy as well. If we keep it to ourselves it soon dries up and becomes hard.</p>
<p>Like a cell phone we have to plug into God&#8217;s word to charge our battery. Like a PDA when we read it everyday we can have the bible written on our hearts to be brought up whenever needed and do not have to carry it around to keep our hands tied up so they can be available to do God&#8217;s work.</p>
<p>The basics of God&#8217;s word keeps it simple and in these days anything that is simple has my vote. Here is a KISS for you, Keep It Simple Saint. Jesus summed it all up very simply Love God and He will teach you to love others like He has loved you.</p>
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		<title>By: BruceC</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/23/this-is-a-football/#comment-3040</link>
		<dc:creator>BruceC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 13:33:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Don&#039;t really have anything to add; but just to say that this is a great topic Mart. And responses from cherielyn and dep7547 are very good too.

Bruce/Upstate NY</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t really have anything to add; but just to say that this is a great topic Mart. And responses from cherielyn and dep7547 are very good too.</p>
<p>Bruce/Upstate NY</p>
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		<title>By: cherielyn</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 12:42:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Back to basics:  This is a BIBLE!

My daughter told me a good one, awhile back.  In case no one has ever heard it before, the letters in BIBLE  stand for: BASIC INFORMATION BEFORE LEAVING EARTH.

Further, I just got a great email from a friend the other day.  It should give great pause for thought.  It goes as follows:


*CELL PHONE vs. BIBLE*


*I wonder what would happen if we treated our Bible
Like we treat our cell phone?*

*What if we carried it around in our purses or pockets?*

*What if we flipped through it several times a day?*

*What if we turned back to go get it if we forgot it?*

*What if we used it to receive messages from the text?*

*What if we treated it like we couldn&#039;t live without it?*

*What if we gave it to kids as gifts?*

*What if we used it when we traveled?*

*What if we used it in case of an emergency?*

*This is something to make you go....*

*&#039;Hmm...where is my Bible?&#039;*

*Oh, and one more thing. *

*Unlike our cell phone, we don&#039;t have to worry
About our Bible being disconnected because... *

*Jesus already paid the bill.*

*Makes you stop and think &#039;where are my priorities&#039;?*

*And no dropped calls!*


Not bragging here, but I have a PDA that has 6 versions on the Bible on it &amp; I do take it wherever I go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to basics:  This is a BIBLE!</p>
<p>My daughter told me a good one, awhile back.  In case no one has ever heard it before, the letters in BIBLE  stand for: BASIC INFORMATION BEFORE LEAVING EARTH.</p>
<p>Further, I just got a great email from a friend the other day.  It should give great pause for thought.  It goes as follows:</p>
<p>*CELL PHONE vs. BIBLE*</p>
<p>*I wonder what would happen if we treated our Bible<br />
Like we treat our cell phone?*</p>
<p>*What if we carried it around in our purses or pockets?*</p>
<p>*What if we flipped through it several times a day?*</p>
<p>*What if we turned back to go get it if we forgot it?*</p>
<p>*What if we used it to receive messages from the text?*</p>
<p>*What if we treated it like we couldn&#8217;t live without it?*</p>
<p>*What if we gave it to kids as gifts?*</p>
<p>*What if we used it when we traveled?*</p>
<p>*What if we used it in case of an emergency?*</p>
<p>*This is something to make you go&#8230;.*</p>
<p>*&#8217;Hmm&#8230;where is my Bible?&#8217;*</p>
<p>*Oh, and one more thing. *</p>
<p>*Unlike our cell phone, we don&#8217;t have to worry<br />
About our Bible being disconnected because&#8230; *</p>
<p>*Jesus already paid the bill.*</p>
<p>*Makes you stop and think &#8216;where are my priorities&#8217;?*</p>
<p>*And no dropped calls!*</p>
<p>Not bragging here, but I have a PDA that has 6 versions on the Bible on it &amp; I do take it wherever I go.</p>
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		<title>By: daisymarygoldr</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/23/this-is-a-football/#comment-3037</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 21:36:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Football! Is it a fowl or a fish? Yard markers? Sorry, it is impolite to utter in an unknown tongue… but I get the idea…these are some excellent things to be reminded about. Never read this passage as faith-based links that build on in succession …but this view did enlighten my eyes of understanding! The Bottom line here is: To “know” who God is by “knowing” “what God has done for us in Christ”…that is the true “knowledge” which will transform our minds into the mind of Christ…and then everything else will make sense…our lives, our trust, our faith, our hope, our love…and yes, this cannot be achieved overnight… one cannot “grow in Christ without practicing and experiencing the relationships of faith”. These are certainly not our natural inclinations but as Christians we are called to cultivate these Godly characteristics by exercising our God-given faith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Football! Is it a fowl or a fish? Yard markers? Sorry, it is impolite to utter in an unknown tongue… but I get the idea…these are some excellent things to be reminded about. Never read this passage as faith-based links that build on in succession …but this view did enlighten my eyes of understanding! The Bottom line here is: To “know” who God is by “knowing” “what God has done for us in Christ”…that is the true “knowledge” which will transform our minds into the mind of Christ…and then everything else will make sense…our lives, our trust, our faith, our hope, our love…and yes, this cannot be achieved overnight… one cannot “grow in Christ without practicing and experiencing the relationships of faith”. These are certainly not our natural inclinations but as Christians we are called to cultivate these Godly characteristics by exercising our God-given faith.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/23/this-is-a-football/#comment-3035</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 16:27:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SFDBWV said:

 &quot;Self…. is I believe the basis of all sin. Self…the focus always on self. How will this relate to me? How can I gain from this? What’s in it for me?&quot;

For me, you have no reason to thank me for my patience, your thoughts are always so enlightening to me.  I should thank you.

You have distilled into a single paragraph that which we are ALL guilty of to varying degrees but when I look at it expressed in those words, I see it so clearly and simply.

Perhaps, Marts getting back to basics path and the &quot;links&quot; are the steps needed to defeat the sin of &quot;Self&quot;?

So much more to think about, I&#039;m thinking.</description>
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<p> &#8220;Self…. is I believe the basis of all sin. Self…the focus always on self. How will this relate to me? How can I gain from this? What’s in it for me?&#8221;</p>
<p>For me, you have no reason to thank me for my patience, your thoughts are always so enlightening to me.  I should thank you.</p>
<p>You have distilled into a single paragraph that which we are ALL guilty of to varying degrees but when I look at it expressed in those words, I see it so clearly and simply.</p>
<p>Perhaps, Marts getting back to basics path and the &#8220;links&#8221; are the steps needed to defeat the sin of &#8220;Self&#8221;?</p>
<p>So much more to think about, I&#8217;m thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: Your Love Inspires</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/23/this-is-a-football/#comment-3033</link>
		<dc:creator>Your Love Inspires</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 15:23:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poohpity... I understand your plight. With the nonsense that is playing out on the world stage in American politics for example, I believe many of us our being led astray by a &quot;greater good&quot; mentality that has nothing to do with the steps laid out by Peter in the Scriptures Mark used to illustrate the development of Christ like character. We were told by Jesus that it would be as such and this even took place in His day. Remember He foretold of events as these so do not lose heart and keep your eyes on Him. As a friend told me recently... Jesus never said it was going to be easy. This was in response to my own concerns that you have addressed. His Spirit gives us the strength to prevail as the &quot;salt of the earth&quot; and it is He who will eventually bring us safely home. It is The Holy Spirit that gives us the peace that is beyond understanding, as evidenced by His disciples as they walked through their trials. I say this to myself as I say it to others.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poohpity&#8230; I understand your plight. With the nonsense that is playing out on the world stage in American politics for example, I believe many of us our being led astray by a &#8220;greater good&#8221; mentality that has nothing to do with the steps laid out by Peter in the Scriptures Mark used to illustrate the development of Christ like character. We were told by Jesus that it would be as such and this even took place in His day. Remember He foretold of events as these so do not lose heart and keep your eyes on Him. As a friend told me recently&#8230; Jesus never said it was going to be easy. This was in response to my own concerns that you have addressed. His Spirit gives us the strength to prevail as the &#8220;salt of the earth&#8221; and it is He who will eventually bring us safely home. It is The Holy Spirit that gives us the peace that is beyond understanding, as evidenced by His disciples as they walked through their trials. I say this to myself as I say it to others.</p>
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		<title>By: poohpity</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/23/this-is-a-football/#comment-3032</link>
		<dc:creator>poohpity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 14:38:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sometimes I feel scared because I do not trust people anymore is this from satan or is it a sign of the times? I trust God but it seems that people even Christians are out to do something other than what comes out of their mouths.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sometimes I feel scared because I do not trust people anymore is this from satan or is it a sign of the times? I trust God but it seems that people even Christians are out to do something other than what comes out of their mouths.</p>
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