Comments on: Where are we Going and Who Can we Trust? http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/ with Mart De Haan and Friends Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:51:26 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Christine http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3194 Christine Mon, 03 Nov 2008 01:59:22 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3194 The day I put all my trust in Him was the day my world became right side up! There is a sign on the wall of a Chinese restaurant we frequent and it reads like this: In God we trust, the rest of you pay cash! I like your posts! =O) The day I put all my trust in Him was the day my world became right side up! There is a sign on the wall of a Chinese restaurant we frequent and it reads like this: In God we trust, the rest of you pay cash! I like your posts! =O)

]]> By: SFDBWV http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3062 SFDBWV Mon, 27 Oct 2008 11:54:35 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3062 Hebrews 11:1 "Now faith is the substance of things hoped, for the evidence of things not seen." As I have read over the responses, I see many hurting people. I see a common thread in us all. We believe and trust is God, we hold tightly to the promises HE has made to us. We trust HIM to take us through a lifetime here of trials and tribulations, to that far distant shore where all of our pain and sorrows will be wiped away. As I have went through life I have trusted many people and many devices. All have to some degree let me down, some through no fault of their own. Yet in order to live I must still trust. I would rather be guilty of trusting people than become so cynical as to not be able to love. I trust that God will be faithful in all his promises, it is my faith that enables me to believe that. I wish to thank you all for the fellowship you have brought into my home. Hebrews 11:1 “Now faith is the substance of things hoped, for the evidence of things not seen.”

As I have read over the responses, I see many hurting people. I see a common thread in us all. We believe and trust is God, we hold tightly to the promises HE has made to us. We trust HIM to take us through a lifetime here of trials and tribulations, to that far distant shore where all of our pain and sorrows will be wiped away.

As I have went through life I have trusted many people and many devices. All have to some degree let me down, some through no fault of their own. Yet in order to live I must still trust. I would rather be guilty of trusting people than become so cynical as to not be able to love.

I trust that God will be faithful in all his promises, it is my faith that enables me to believe that.

I wish to thank you all for the fellowship you have brought into my home.

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3061 poohpity Sun, 26 Oct 2008 23:59:28 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3061 I used to trust until someone did something to mess it up so I learned my lesson much to my chagrin. Now through toil and snares have learned that trust is something that can be earned but it takes time to know someone. I believe it is the same with our relationship with God over time we learn to fully depend on Him and His care like a child depends upon a parent(proverbs 3:5,6). God gave us a brain and the growth that comes during our walk with Him we are taught to use it. Actually He wants us to so we can know Him with a trust from experience(that passes all understanding) not a blind trust. I really liked that saying today from ODB, Salvation is the miracle of a moment; growth is the labor of a lifetime. Gosh that is so very true especially when it comes to trust, a healthy trust. Only in knowing someone fully can you trust without question and hopefully that's how we can trust our Lord. I used to trust until someone did something to mess it up so I learned my lesson much to my chagrin. Now through toil and snares have learned that trust is something that can be earned but it takes time to know someone. I believe it is the same with our relationship with God over time we learn to fully depend on Him and His care like a child depends upon a parent(proverbs 3:5,6). God gave us a brain and the growth that comes during our walk with Him we are taught to use it. Actually He wants us to so we can know Him with a trust from experience(that passes all understanding) not a blind trust. I really liked that saying today from ODB, Salvation is the miracle of a moment; growth is the labor of a lifetime. Gosh that is so very true especially when it comes to trust, a healthy trust. Only in knowing someone fully can you trust without question and hopefully that’s how we can trust our Lord.

]]> By: Belma Connerley http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3060 Belma Connerley Sun, 26 Oct 2008 20:54:24 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3060 In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Several years ago my husband and I decided to give a whole Bible to every customer we had, who wanted us to build them a NEW house. After building one and giving them a whole bible the Lord spoke to me "Except the Lord build the house they labor in vain that build it" Since then He has given me words and I have written poems etc ...Here's [one] I wrote : New House Help me to build a new house with beams Leveled upwards and walls enclosing the heart, Windows on the east to see the sun arise, Remembering thy promise that can't be broken. Let's rest, Lord, We have all we need. Thy grace has built it all, Thanksgiving and praise indeed To God with awe... In the beginning was the word and the word was with God and the word was God. Several years ago my husband and I decided to give a whole Bible to every customer we had, who wanted us to build them a NEW house. After building one and giving them a whole bible the Lord spoke to me “Except the Lord build the house they labor in vain that build it” Since then He has given me words and I have written poems etc …Here’s [one] I wrote :

New House
Help me to build a new house with beams
Leveled upwards and walls enclosing the heart,
Windows on the east to see the sun arise,
Remembering thy promise that can’t be broken.
Let’s rest, Lord,
We have all we need.
Thy grace has built it all,
Thanksgiving and praise indeed
To God with awe…

]]> By: daisymarygoldr http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3059 daisymarygoldr Sun, 26 Oct 2008 15:38:32 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3059 Cannot even trust myself with my own life, how can I trust others? It does not mean that we should be always suspicious and not trust others…then life will be miserable. We enjoy relationships and resources as blessings that come from God but do not rely on them or trust even our own insights. We should be trustworthy by reflecting the integrity of our heavenly Father. To the best of our ability, we must honor and keep our words, stay committed and faithful in our relationships with people and God….but we are not perfect and we will fail. Hence, it is better to trust God than anything or anyone else. Trust is foundational to any relationship. We cannot trust if we do not “know” the person well. God Himself first demonstrated trust when He entrusted the Garden of Eden to the first man. Man breached the terms of that trust (the first sin) and lost the intimate relationship with his Maker. As our relationship with God in Christ, is restored and deepens, we “know” enough about Him… that He is the only Truth, that He is dependable, and that there is none else beside Him. When we “know” God, we know “no” fear (Jeremiah 17:7-8)… we then leap out into the unknown by taking a simple step of ‘Faith’ that ‘Trusts’ God to still all our storms- financial meltdown, bitter election, loss of: marriage, spouse, child, job, house and life. Although, satan continues to sow the seed of distrust, Faith trusts God to never fail us or forsake us! T. Ruth, we need ‘faith’ to ‘trust’ an unseen God…. Cannot even trust myself with my own life, how can I trust others? It does not mean that we should be always suspicious and not trust others…then life will be miserable. We enjoy relationships and resources as blessings that come from God but do not rely on them or trust even our own insights.

We should be trustworthy by reflecting the integrity of our heavenly Father. To the best of our ability, we must honor and keep our words, stay committed and faithful in our relationships with people and God….but we are not perfect and we will fail. Hence, it is better to trust God than anything or anyone else.

Trust is foundational to any relationship. We cannot trust if we do not “know” the person well. God Himself first demonstrated trust when He entrusted the Garden of Eden to the first man. Man breached the terms of that trust (the first sin) and lost the intimate relationship with his Maker. As our relationship with God in Christ, is restored and deepens, we “know” enough about Him… that He is the only Truth, that He is dependable, and that there is none else beside Him.

When we “know” God, we know “no” fear (Jeremiah 17:7-8)… we then leap out into the unknown by taking a simple step of ‘Faith’ that ‘Trusts’ God to still all our storms- financial meltdown, bitter election, loss of: marriage, spouse, child, job, house and life. Although, satan continues to sow the seed of distrust, Faith trusts God to never fail us or forsake us!

T. Ruth, we need ‘faith’ to ‘trust’ an unseen God….

]]> By: SFDBWV http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3058 SFDBWV Sun, 26 Oct 2008 13:19:55 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3058 BW, My King James Bible says in 1Corinithians Ch. 13 vs :7" Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things." I can see where one could interpet "believeth all things" for always trust. But they do mean different things. In chapter 13, LOVE is being defined. If we truly love someone, we want to believe all things for them.Not from them. It is about our heart and where it is. Not necessarily the person of whom is the recipient of our love. We must be childlike in character, yet wary as foxes as there are many wolves in sheeps clothing. Wretch-like-me, As I reread your comments this morning, I was touched by your struggle. Take courage in that we all fall short of the glory. Our hope remains in Christ alone. I will pray for you and your wife. For "the peace of God, which passeth all understanding," (Philippians 4:7) BW, My King James Bible says in 1Corinithians Ch. 13 vs :7″ Beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.”

I can see where one could interpet “believeth all things” for always trust. But they do mean different things.

In chapter 13, LOVE is being defined. If we truly love someone, we want to believe all things for them.Not from them. It is about our heart and where it is. Not necessarily the person of whom is the recipient of our love.

We must be childlike in character, yet wary as foxes as there are many wolves in sheeps clothing.

Wretch-like-me, As I reread your comments this morning, I was touched by your struggle. Take courage in that we all fall short of the glory. Our hope remains in Christ alone. I will pray for you and your wife. For “the peace of God, which passeth all understanding,” (Philippians 4:7)

]]> By: BruceC http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3057 BruceC Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:57:08 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3057 Mart, I saw a show on TV last week about the CIA spy plane pilots from a few decades ago. The patch they wore said "In God we trust; all others we monitor." God can be trusted to do what is right 100% of the time. Although there are times it doesn't line up with our desires of course. There are some folks that I can trust and rely on far more than others but even they will fail at times and we need to recognize that they are as weak as we. One thing for sure is that no matter how things may go here in this world and in our lives; God has promised those who have faith in Christ that they will have a wonderful eternity with Him. And that you can take to the bank!!! Mart,

I saw a show on TV last week about the CIA spy plane pilots from a few decades ago. The patch they wore said “In God we trust; all others we monitor.” God can be trusted to do what is right 100% of the time. Although there are times it doesn’t line up with our desires of course. There are some folks that I can trust and rely on far more than others but even they will fail at times and we need to recognize that they are as weak as we. One thing for sure is that no matter how things may go here in this world and in our lives; God has promised those who have faith in Christ that they will have a wonderful eternity with Him. And that you can take to the bank!!!

]]> By: chfranke http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3056 chfranke Sun, 26 Oct 2008 12:01:04 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3056 "Trust and obey, for there is no other way to be happy in Jesus than to trust and obey." You all have such an amazing incite in this subject today. It is calming and pleasing to my agitated soul. I've been spending too much time with my eyes on the stock market and news than on Jesus. How easily I get distracted and distraught. It is bothersome to me and I'm sure it's bothersome to Him. Thank you, Mart, and you all for being witnesses and gentle guides in reminding me what direction I want to go; trusting in Jesus, resting in Him, placing all my worries at His feet. “Trust and obey, for there is no other way to be happy in Jesus than to trust and obey.” You all have such an amazing incite in this subject today. It is calming and pleasing to my agitated soul. I’ve been spending too much time with my eyes on the stock market and news than on Jesus. How easily I get distracted and distraught. It is bothersome to me and I’m sure it’s bothersome to Him. Thank you, Mart, and you all for being witnesses and gentle guides in reminding me what direction I want to go; trusting in Jesus, resting in Him, placing all my worries at His feet.

]]> By: Ted M. Gossard http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3055 Ted M. Gossard Sun, 26 Oct 2008 08:35:10 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3055 Amen. If we trust in any mortal we're sunk. Our trust must be in God alone, in Jesus. I think we do err easily in thinking we have a good person in a position, say politically or wherever, and we think we can rest assured that they'll do well and all will go well. But we need to pray, and realize they're as much in need of the Lord and the Lord's guidance as we are. My Anabaptist leanings make me wary of trusting any political figures since I see nationalism as an inherent danger, even if not necessarily a vice. It does say we should honor such and pray for them, and not slander them. But we're also told not to put our trust in them (<a href="http://www.tniv.info/bible/passagesearch.php?passage_request=Psa+146&submit=Lookup&tniv=yes&display_option=columns" rel="nofollow">Psalm 146</a> ). I'm thinking this is a problem both for the religious left and right in regard to politics and politicians, in this country. Amen. If we trust in any mortal we’re sunk. Our trust must be in God alone, in Jesus.

I think we do err easily in thinking we have a good person in a position, say politically or wherever, and we think we can rest assured that they’ll do well and all will go well. But we need to pray, and realize they’re as much in need of the Lord and the Lord’s guidance as we are.

My Anabaptist leanings make me wary of trusting any political figures since I see nationalism as an inherent danger, even if not necessarily a vice. It does say we should honor such and pray for them, and not slander them. But we’re also told not to put our trust in them (Psalm 146
). I’m thinking this is a problem both for the religious left and right in regard to politics and politicians, in this country.

]]> By: sitsathisfeet http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/25/where-are-we-going-and-who-can-we-trust/#comment-3054 sitsathisfeet Sun, 26 Oct 2008 03:48:56 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=1779#comment-3054 Born and raised in the heartland of the midwest, now living in Ca. Enjoyed hearing your description of Michigan where my sister in law grew up, now my brother and her moving to Illinois, after living in Nevada for 30 years! Who do we trust? Sometimes if we're fortunate, family and friends etc. But ultimately only the Lord provides absolute trust. When all the world and everything in it passes away, His words will will not pass away! Naked we came into the world, naked we shall go. For me a moving passage on trust is John 14:1-4 (NIV) Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God, trust also in me. In my Father's house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going. That's where my Trust is, Amen. Born and raised in the heartland of the midwest, now living in Ca. Enjoyed hearing your description of Michigan where my sister in law grew up, now my brother and her moving to Illinois, after living in Nevada for 30 years! Who do we trust? Sometimes if we’re fortunate, family and friends etc. But ultimately only the Lord provides absolute trust. When all the world and everything in it passes away, His words will will not pass away! Naked we came into the world, naked we shall go. For me a moving passage on trust is John 14:1-4 (NIV) Do not let your hearts be troubled. Trust in God, trust also in me. In my Father’s house are many rooms; if it were not so, I would have told you. I am going there to prepare a place for you. And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am. You know the way to the place where I am going. That’s where my Trust is, Amen.

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