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		<title>By: Mart De Haan</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3461</link>
		<dc:creator>Mart De Haan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:57:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>brandonc, thanks for giving us your Asia on US perspective. While your observations are true of some rather than all, am afraid you are more correct than many of us would like to admit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>brandonc, thanks for giving us your Asia on US perspective. While your observations are true of some rather than all, am afraid you are more correct than many of us would like to admit.</p>
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		<title>By: brandonc</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3455</link>
		<dc:creator>brandonc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:40:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not from America, but the image I get from the news of the average American is one who lives in a house (with lawn and all) and is probably overweight. Is that true? People really overspend, and probably find in inconceivable to lower their standards of living. When it comes to not being able to maintain that standard of living, they can blame banks or the govt or anyone.

In Asia, there are many people living in real poverty (think about 1-2br unit/flats for 4-5 people, or even the streets), and some are even more hopeful and happy in the Lord even tho their income and standard of living is much lower than the average American.

The whole world is helping the US to pay off their overspending and ridiculous standards of living...

To paint the picture in a corny way:
Think about Lord of the Rings, where the US (dark Lord) has given the rings (bad credit financial packages) to each nation who has taken it in greed/faith, and is now bearing the consequences of American&#039;s bad decisions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not from America, but the image I get from the news of the average American is one who lives in a house (with lawn and all) and is probably overweight. Is that true? People really overspend, and probably find in inconceivable to lower their standards of living. When it comes to not being able to maintain that standard of living, they can blame banks or the govt or anyone.</p>
<p>In Asia, there are many people living in real poverty (think about 1-2br unit/flats for 4-5 people, or even the streets), and some are even more hopeful and happy in the Lord even tho their income and standard of living is much lower than the average American.</p>
<p>The whole world is helping the US to pay off their overspending and ridiculous standards of living&#8230;</p>
<p>To paint the picture in a corny way:<br />
Think about Lord of the Rings, where the US (dark Lord) has given the rings (bad credit financial packages) to each nation who has taken it in greed/faith, and is now bearing the consequences of American&#8217;s bad decisions.</p>
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		<title>By: saint.paula@comcast.net</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3344</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Nov 2008 03:00:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how the present economic downturn is affecting us as an individual is I have grown closer to God, in more need of God&#039;s comforts. I have grown in my bible studies as I seek God more as the downturn affects me. I got real sick physically, mentally and possibly spiritually when the economy went bad. I lost my job, family and home. It would be really sad if my relationship with God didn&#039;t blossom and my faith is better than it ever was. I was able to committ eternity to Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. I&#039;ve never felt so complete. It&#039;s the oddest thing. The downturn lifted me up instead of taking me down. That just shows the power of the Lord.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how the present economic downturn is affecting us as an individual is I have grown closer to God, in more need of God&#8217;s comforts. I have grown in my bible studies as I seek God more as the downturn affects me. I got real sick physically, mentally and possibly spiritually when the economy went bad. I lost my job, family and home. It would be really sad if my relationship with God didn&#8217;t blossom and my faith is better than it ever was. I was able to committ eternity to Jesus Christ my Lord and Savior. I&#8217;ve never felt so complete. It&#8217;s the oddest thing. The downturn lifted me up instead of taking me down. That just shows the power of the Lord.</p>
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		<title>By: Royce Marcotte</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3325</link>
		<dc:creator>Royce Marcotte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 Nov 2008 16:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A few years ago my wife and I decided to join a church and in doing so started reading the Bible we came to the conclusion we needed to get our finances in order.  We also had made some bad financial choises.  We now only owe on our home.  I was diagnosed with cancer last year and went through surgery and chemo, lost my job and can not find a new one. If my wife&#039;s   job is lost we will loose our home. I pray every day and read the Bible but God chooses not to answer.  I can relate to alot of these comments.  My wife and I have been married for going on 33 years. Our country has become Godless just as in the old testament. Thank you RBC for all you do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A few years ago my wife and I decided to join a church and in doing so started reading the Bible we came to the conclusion we needed to get our finances in order.  We also had made some bad financial choises.  We now only owe on our home.  I was diagnosed with cancer last year and went through surgery and chemo, lost my job and can not find a new one. If my wife&#8217;s   job is lost we will loose our home. I pray every day and read the Bible but God chooses not to answer.  I can relate to alot of these comments.  My wife and I have been married for going on 33 years. Our country has become Godless just as in the old testament. Thank you RBC for all you do.</p>
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		<title>By: innkeeper</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3165</link>
		<dc:creator>innkeeper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 22:06:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the colorful foliage falling down in rural Maine, the deepset poverty and desperation is visible just driving down most roads. Mile after mile of trailers, latchkey children with a parent who is out working, elderly in terror of foreclosure on their dilapidated farmhouse, and frantic attempts to start home businesses (quickly), are evident. Trucks, and cars are parked right alongside these beautiful scenic routes, displaying hand-written &quot;For Sale&quot; notices. My neighbors aren&#039;t eating; or they are, many are not able to fill their prescriptions. There are precious few jobs, and during the past six years,the State of Maine, became the largest employer. Small business simply didn&#039;t survive. And, there is precious little other corporate or sales work here. Locals suffer each winter.

This annual change of weather, changes my daily activities. I spend much of them cooking, delivering clothes (especially shoes and coats), to little ones, desperate ones, and speaking so as to calm the older ones who are without heat. Coming from urban professional work eight years ago, I never expected to see basic needs so lacking, in the homes of working people.

Now, running an antique Inn, two weeks ago I received four phone calls from former co-workers whom I had known from Hollywood/Burbank/New York/Florida. Each was a pleasant surprise, as I had not heard their voices in as many as 16 years. 

Each caller is about 60 to 62 years-old, and each had owned a small business with a high-end technical specialty at which they had worked 80-hour weeks, for a few decades. Each asked me if I would &quot;take them in&quot; as they could not live any longer in their homes (all had been on the market for a long while/two had taken in boarders who had already lost their homes), and their retirements seemed to have unexpectedly vaporized. 

Each needed a place of refuge, and expressed a resignation that there was nothing more to be done.

Each really wanted to begin a new business as over the past few years, their &quot;market&quot; had &quot;dried up&quot; or &quot;gone to India.&quot;  Each was looking to change professions.

These friends were not the high rollers in the world, or even the big spenders. No &quot;kitchen redos&quot; with these folks.

These people poured their hours into serving others through a business they had nurtured. They are the honest, hard-working technically-expert friends, whom I admire so much.

So, it&#039;s hard to say what will happen here at the Inn in Maine, this coming winter. But, based on these calls, it is possible that we will be creating some kind of new &quot;business entity&quot; as together, we haul wood to the furnaces, shovel out neighbors, and cook for those who cannot fend for themselves.

The Lord has His Plan working here. My former friends and many neighbors, don&#039;t know Jesus Christ as Savior... yet.
The dire situation here, is an open door, for the Gospel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the colorful foliage falling down in rural Maine, the deepset poverty and desperation is visible just driving down most roads. Mile after mile of trailers, latchkey children with a parent who is out working, elderly in terror of foreclosure on their dilapidated farmhouse, and frantic attempts to start home businesses (quickly), are evident. Trucks, and cars are parked right alongside these beautiful scenic routes, displaying hand-written &#8220;For Sale&#8221; notices. My neighbors aren&#8217;t eating; or they are, many are not able to fill their prescriptions. There are precious few jobs, and during the past six years,the State of Maine, became the largest employer. Small business simply didn&#8217;t survive. And, there is precious little other corporate or sales work here. Locals suffer each winter.</p>
<p>This annual change of weather, changes my daily activities. I spend much of them cooking, delivering clothes (especially shoes and coats), to little ones, desperate ones, and speaking so as to calm the older ones who are without heat. Coming from urban professional work eight years ago, I never expected to see basic needs so lacking, in the homes of working people.</p>
<p>Now, running an antique Inn, two weeks ago I received four phone calls from former co-workers whom I had known from Hollywood/Burbank/New York/Florida. Each was a pleasant surprise, as I had not heard their voices in as many as 16 years. </p>
<p>Each caller is about 60 to 62 years-old, and each had owned a small business with a high-end technical specialty at which they had worked 80-hour weeks, for a few decades. Each asked me if I would &#8220;take them in&#8221; as they could not live any longer in their homes (all had been on the market for a long while/two had taken in boarders who had already lost their homes), and their retirements seemed to have unexpectedly vaporized. </p>
<p>Each needed a place of refuge, and expressed a resignation that there was nothing more to be done.</p>
<p>Each really wanted to begin a new business as over the past few years, their &#8220;market&#8221; had &#8220;dried up&#8221; or &#8220;gone to India.&#8221;  Each was looking to change professions.</p>
<p>These friends were not the high rollers in the world, or even the big spenders. No &#8220;kitchen redos&#8221; with these folks.</p>
<p>These people poured their hours into serving others through a business they had nurtured. They are the honest, hard-working technically-expert friends, whom I admire so much.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s hard to say what will happen here at the Inn in Maine, this coming winter. But, based on these calls, it is possible that we will be creating some kind of new &#8220;business entity&#8221; as together, we haul wood to the furnaces, shovel out neighbors, and cook for those who cannot fend for themselves.</p>
<p>The Lord has His Plan working here. My former friends and many neighbors, don&#8217;t know Jesus Christ as Savior&#8230; yet.<br />
The dire situation here, is an open door, for the Gospel.</p>
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		<title>By: Mart De Haan</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3150</link>
		<dc:creator>Mart De Haan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 09:46:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The willingness of so many of you to talk about what you are experiencing, and, in so many cases, how the Lord&#039;s provisions for you have deepened your awareness of his presence and faithfulness has been so helpful. Am so thankful also for the indication of prayers that have been expressed to our Father for one another...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The willingness of so many of you to talk about what you are experiencing, and, in so many cases, how the Lord&#8217;s provisions for you have deepened your awareness of his presence and faithfulness has been so helpful. Am so thankful also for the indication of prayers that have been expressed to our Father for one another&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3147</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 31 Oct 2008 01:15:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Amen, Gary.

You are so right.

Correct me if I&#039;m wrong though....you can trust God to guide your hand but consult a professional before changing your own oil for the first time.  It won&#039;t be His fault if you screw up and your engine seizes.  Sorry......voice of experience.

Praise God for He is The Life, The Hope and The Truth.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Amen, Gary.</p>
<p>You are so right.</p>
<p>Correct me if I&#8217;m wrong though&#8230;.you can trust God to guide your hand but consult a professional before changing your own oil for the first time.  It won&#8217;t be His fault if you screw up and your engine seizes.  Sorry&#8230;&#8230;voice of experience.</p>
<p>Praise God for He is The Life, The Hope and The Truth.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3146</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 22:43:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To all who who posted on this subject. I have been there before, that is in debt over my head. I got out of it through hard work and long hours and many years, so by Gods grace and provision I dont intend to return to that arena. You can do the same, by Gods help. I proudly drive a 1987 Suzuki Samurai, 250,000 miles, very basic vehicle, I cut my own grass, change my own oil, wear clothes at least 10 years old, fix any thing that I can without paying for it to be fixed, cut my own hair. So as you can see I live a very simple life. I am a clean person who if you saw me you may think that I am average in appearance. Anytime I even have the thought of buying something I consider one thing first, will it cause me to have to sacrifice any of my time with my family and God and time for myself. For me it is a priority and freedom. Believe me that there is nothing wrong with buying &quot;things&quot;, we all have to have them, but what I would love for people to be able to do is experience real financial freedom and think before you buy anything. Are you sure that your job is secure? are you sure that you cannot fix that item that you are about to go into debt to replace?, try changing your engine oil, and any thing else you can do to save money. You will be surprised at learning of two facts that you possibly did not know about yourself, first one is that you can do it, second one is that God will show you how. Then you will feel like a load has been lifted due to your new found independence and freedom. If this makes sense then do it, if it does not make sense then do it anyway.  I dont have anything to sell and would not sell it here if I did. I just hate to see people worry and stress over something that they bought and probably not have done so if they knew then what they know now. Be happy with what you have. Think, Think, Think before you ever buy from now on.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To all who who posted on this subject. I have been there before, that is in debt over my head. I got out of it through hard work and long hours and many years, so by Gods grace and provision I dont intend to return to that arena. You can do the same, by Gods help. I proudly drive a 1987 Suzuki Samurai, 250,000 miles, very basic vehicle, I cut my own grass, change my own oil, wear clothes at least 10 years old, fix any thing that I can without paying for it to be fixed, cut my own hair. So as you can see I live a very simple life. I am a clean person who if you saw me you may think that I am average in appearance. Anytime I even have the thought of buying something I consider one thing first, will it cause me to have to sacrifice any of my time with my family and God and time for myself. For me it is a priority and freedom. Believe me that there is nothing wrong with buying &#8220;things&#8221;, we all have to have them, but what I would love for people to be able to do is experience real financial freedom and think before you buy anything. Are you sure that your job is secure? are you sure that you cannot fix that item that you are about to go into debt to replace?, try changing your engine oil, and any thing else you can do to save money. You will be surprised at learning of two facts that you possibly did not know about yourself, first one is that you can do it, second one is that God will show you how. Then you will feel like a load has been lifted due to your new found independence and freedom. If this makes sense then do it, if it does not make sense then do it anyway.  I dont have anything to sell and would not sell it here if I did. I just hate to see people worry and stress over something that they bought and probably not have done so if they knew then what they know now. Be happy with what you have. Think, Think, Think before you ever buy from now on.</p>
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		<title>By: drkennyg</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3145</link>
		<dc:creator>drkennyg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 21:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s never a good idea to hold back on giving to God.  In &quot;Hudson Taylor&#039;s Spiritual Secret&quot; it is said the faith is the quiet dependence on God and that God will NEVER leave you.  Hudson Taylor was a Christian missionary to China in the 19th century and he depended on God for EVERYTHING and he was never disappointed.  Even if you think you can&#039;t tithe do it anyway and prayerfully offer it to the Lord.  You will be amazed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s never a good idea to hold back on giving to God.  In &#8220;Hudson Taylor&#8217;s Spiritual Secret&#8221; it is said the faith is the quiet dependence on God and that God will NEVER leave you.  Hudson Taylor was a Christian missionary to China in the 19th century and he depended on God for EVERYTHING and he was never disappointed.  Even if you think you can&#8217;t tithe do it anyway and prayerfully offer it to the Lord.  You will be amazed.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2008/10/29/personal-economics-and-uncertainties/#comment-3143</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 20:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I cannot imagine the pain and suffering that is going on in this world today.  I can&#039;t help but think that Christ looks at this and weaps.

We are fine and paying the bills but I think we&#039;ve always been a family of relatively modest needs and wants.

Whatever anyone does though, don&#039;t lose sight of God.  The question was asked, does he seem closer or further away and I say that the answer is quite simple.

He&#039;s always close.  It&#039;s just us here on earth who sometimes obscure our own ability to see Him and put our trust in Him that he will see us through whatever hardship is going on.  

God bless. Stay focused. He&#039;ll get us all through in the end.  You know He will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I cannot imagine the pain and suffering that is going on in this world today.  I can&#8217;t help but think that Christ looks at this and weaps.</p>
<p>We are fine and paying the bills but I think we&#8217;ve always been a family of relatively modest needs and wants.</p>
<p>Whatever anyone does though, don&#8217;t lose sight of God.  The question was asked, does he seem closer or further away and I say that the answer is quite simple.</p>
<p>He&#8217;s always close.  It&#8217;s just us here on earth who sometimes obscure our own ability to see Him and put our trust in Him that he will see us through whatever hardship is going on.  </p>
<p>God bless. Stay focused. He&#8217;ll get us all through in the end.  You know He will.</p>
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