Comments on: Israel, Gaza, and Good or Bad Faith

By: Belma Connerley

Belma Connerley — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 18:32:53 +0000

Act,– act in the living present. Heart within and God o’erhead
Learn to labor and to wait From poem– A Psalm of Life by Henry Wadsworth Longfellow

The disciples asked years ago “Wilt thou at this time restore the kingdom to Israel? and they were told “It’s not for you to know the time or the season but Go and make disciples of all nations.”

By: kaliko88

kaliko88 — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 05:45:19 +0000

“a prisoner to a logic of hate” – I think that describes best of all why people succumb to such evil actions as violence and war. But I cannot quite agree with the quote about “violent men” protecting us. I am biased in that I have a wonderful brother who is a major in the army, but I do not see all of them as violent. I seem them instead as guardians, ones who recognize others who are not only violent but who, in their logic of hate, revel in violence. The guardians, however, are ones who would prefer not to act with violence, but when faced with it cannot stand by and do nothing.

And that is why there is war. There are really just three forces to any major conflict – those who are filled with hate and choose violence, those who are filled with fear and choose to do nothing, and those who are filled with love and choose to act.

By: plumbape

plumbape — Wed, 31 Dec 2008 02:28:39 +0000

wretch-like-me thank you, my own ideas could not have been better written. I only hesitate to comment because I don’t know how to write it so it expresses my thoughts. I’m good at not saying much and listening. Ironically I’m losing my hearing as my Mother did and a sister. I’m on the third and last set of hearing aids which still help but not as they did a year ago. So it’s all good. I’m prepared to go and do what the Lord wants me to, And doing plumbing for people as best I can for whatever they think is fair seems like my calling for now.
I really have a tendancy to get toooo serious and a joke, or smile or some one liner in a light hearted way helps me stay content and still get things done and focus on issues with the good people here. It’s all good!

If the plumber does his job right no one should notice! lol!!!

By: sitsathisfeet

sitsathisfeet — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:27:12 +0000

The Lord is so awesome, he just keeps revealing as we are ready to see. We pray so often at our church open the eyes of hearts Lord! When I attended the Maranatha series at our church, on DVD, there was one speaker an Israeli captain in their air force, who was also a Christian Jew – he guaranteed that. Israel would be on the offensive and bomb some more sites, before the swearing in of our new president. I thought he was talking concerning Iran, primarily. But he said the general consensus of their military is that the diplomacy wasn’t working, sanctions weren’t working, so they would take action as they knew how. That the Lord would shorten the days of war and destruction, so men would not completely destroy themselves in a nuclear war, and that God was not going to let Israel be defeated. Now I’m not sure about all that. And I have family in combat as well. The thing I can be sure about is that the Lord’s plans will be accomplished, his will be done. And he will reveal thse things to us in the fullness of time. Our part is to remain faithful to the end, live in peace wherever possible, and shine his light in the world. We are ambassadors of light, children of light in a dark world, because having accepted Jesus as the Messiah we have his light, the light of the world. The one who spoke light into darkness, that light is in us. I am so awed and amazed at his grace and mercy, I have no doubt he will light and show us the way.

By: poohpity

poohpity — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:12:35 +0000

I also wanted to let you know that in 2000 my neighbor from Saudi Arabia had one of the safe house’s for the people from 9/11. I had to talk to the F.B.I. as well as my daughter because she flew to several places with them. Our government had him leave the country and when someone got upset about our government’s reaction to go to Iraq I thought if you only knew the things you do not know. Gosh we never really know what goes on behind the scenes.

By: pegramsdell

pegramsdell — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:12:31 +0000

Not sure…..obviously they would be needing swords. But then He rebukes them for using it on the centurion.
????…hmmmm.

By: poohpity

poohpity — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 21:04:11 +0000

Hey folks what is your take on Luke 22:36.

By: uncertain

uncertain — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:26:21 +0000

These verses in Romans 12 don’t seem to leave a lot of room for self defense:
“Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. . . . Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God. . . To the contrary, if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. . . . Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.”
The issue of war and self defense have confused me, but I think we need to be willing to accept the radical implication of the Gospel.

By: pneumatika

pneumatika — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 20:16:30 +0000

I saw this comment yesterday that got me thinking:
“Hamas is a prisoner to a logic of hate, Israel to a logic of faith in force as the best response to hate. One must continue to search for a different way out, even if that may seem impossible.”
- “A spokesman for the Vatican”

By: pegramsdell

pegramsdell — Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:16:28 +0000

Yeah, needed that hug, thanks