Comments on: Passover Inventory http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/ with Mart De Haan and Friends Thu, 18 Mar 2010 12:14:37 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6773 poohpity Wed, 08 Apr 2009 02:04:53 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6773 Rick, I put that verse in Job because of the reference folks use to compare our refining process when we are indeed flesh. In the NLT Job 6:12 12 Do I have the strength of a stone? Is my body made of bronze? If we were to treat each other like we were made of flesh one might me a little more tender. Rick,
I put that verse in Job because of the reference folks use to compare our refining process when we are indeed flesh. In the NLT Job 6:12
12 Do I have the strength of a stone?
Is my body made of bronze?

If we were to treat each other like we were made of flesh one might me a little more tender.

]]> By: Rick123 http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6767 Rick123 Tue, 07 Apr 2009 22:50:32 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6767 poohpity says: Rick you may want to read Job 6:12 Disease had so attacked him that his strength would need to be hard as a stone, and his flesh like brass, not to sink under it. But he has only flesh, like other men. It must, therefore, give way; so that the hope of restoration suggested by Eliphaz is vain (see on Job 5:11). poohpity says:

Rick you may want to read Job 6:12

Disease had so attacked him that his strength would need to be hard as a stone, and his flesh like brass, not to sink under it. But he has only flesh, like other men. It must, therefore, give way; so that the hope of restoration suggested by Eliphaz is vain (see on Job 5:11).

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6752 poohpity Tue, 07 Apr 2009 15:01:21 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6752 Rick you may want to read Job 6:12 Rick you may want to read Job 6:12

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6746 poohpity Tue, 07 Apr 2009 13:48:11 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6746 Rick123, Luke 3:8 and Luke 19:40 these verse say if humans do not do what God intended God could make stones to complete the job. We can either do what God wants us to do or God will use whatever He wishes to accomplish His purpose but it will be done. Rick123,

Luke 3:8 and Luke 19:40 these verse say if humans do not do what God intended God could make stones to complete the job. We can either do what God wants us to do or God will use whatever He wishes to accomplish His purpose but it will be done.

]]> By: SFDBWV http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6745 SFDBWV Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:29:43 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6745 SD, Thank you for your beautiful eloquence. Your comments are very much recieved this day by me. BruceC, you too have spoken wisely. We all strive, we all fail, but our Savior never leaves us nor forsakes us. Robin snow this morning, 2 inches, 26 degrees. A constant reminder of who is in charge of the weather. SD, Thank you for your beautiful eloquence. Your comments are very much recieved this day by me.

BruceC, you too have spoken wisely.

We all strive, we all fail, but our Savior never leaves us nor forsakes us.

Robin snow this morning, 2 inches, 26 degrees. A constant reminder of who is in charge of the weather.

]]> By: BruceC http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6744 BruceC Tue, 07 Apr 2009 11:01:36 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6744 Reminds me of myself, and dare say I; all Christians. We burn the bread to get rid of the leaven(sin) in our life through Christ; and just as quickly bake a new loaf-only to go for forgiveness again. But we have a wonderful, mercifull Saviour Who knows that we are weak and is willing to forgive us. As we strive to bake our bread without leaven we fail miserably on our own and find we can't do it without the Master Baker. God be praised for His indescriable grace and love. Reminds me of myself, and dare say I; all Christians. We burn the bread to get rid of the leaven(sin) in our life through Christ; and just as quickly bake a new loaf-only to go for forgiveness again. But we have a wonderful, mercifull Saviour Who knows that we are weak and is willing to forgive us. As we strive to bake our bread without leaven we fail miserably on our own and find we can’t do it without the Master Baker.
God be praised for His indescriable grace and love.

]]> By: sapnads http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6743 sapnads Tue, 07 Apr 2009 10:01:14 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6743 Hi Mart, Interesting insight to the Jewish Passover. In my country (India) most Christians try to observe the season of Lent, which culminates at Good Friday and Easter celebrations. People mostly do abstainance i.e avoid eating meats/ dairy products. Some stop smoking/ drinking for the duration, others fast on certain days among other things. I suppose its another way of getting rid of the "Leaven". This time is also used to spend more time in prayer and worship, remembering Jesus' ultimate sacrifice for all of us. As good as this practice is, people seem to miss out on the reason why they follow lent. Rather than spending more time in prayer, people are focused on the process of abtainance and fasting. What many of us don't realise is that, Jesus paid the ultimate price for us which doesn't require us to do any of this anymore. That is the beauty of the Old Testament and the New Testament, we now have a new covenant with God. No amount of good deeds or abstainance is going to help us get salvation or a place in heaven, it is only through the blood of Christ. I agree with you about "I can do this myself" attitude, I have it in me as well. I heard a sermon recently based on Jesus' healing of Jairus's 12yr old daughter. Towards the end of the passage, when people from Jairus house come to inform Jairus about his daughter they ask "should we bother the teacher, your daughter is dead"? Similarly most times we think, O I can handle this situation myself, I don't need to bother the teacher (Jesus) with this. But we have such a loving and caring God, that he wants to be bothered about every aspect of our lives. So while the Jews look for the leavened lets remember Jesus' sacrifice for us and make a resolution to bother our teacher about everything and be dependent on him continously. blessings...SD Hi Mart,
Interesting insight to the Jewish Passover. In my country (India) most Christians try to observe the season of Lent, which culminates at Good Friday and Easter celebrations. People mostly do abstainance i.e avoid eating meats/ dairy products. Some stop smoking/ drinking for the duration, others fast on certain days among other things. I suppose its another way of getting rid of the “Leaven”. This time is also used to spend more time in prayer and worship, remembering Jesus’ ultimate sacrifice for all of us. As good as this practice is, people seem to miss out on the reason why they follow lent. Rather than spending more time in prayer, people are focused on the process of abtainance and fasting. What many of us don’t realise is that, Jesus paid the ultimate price for us which doesn’t require us to do any of this anymore. That is the beauty of the Old Testament and the New Testament, we now have a new covenant with God. No amount of good deeds or abstainance is going to help us get salvation or a place in heaven, it is only through the blood of Christ.
I agree with you about “I can do this myself” attitude, I have it in me as well. I heard a sermon recently based on Jesus’ healing of Jairus’s 12yr old daughter. Towards the end of the passage, when people from Jairus house come to inform Jairus about his daughter they ask “should we bother the teacher, your daughter is dead”? Similarly most times we think, O I can handle this situation myself, I don’t need to bother the teacher (Jesus) with this. But we have such a loving and caring God, that he wants to be bothered about every aspect of our lives. So while the Jews look for the leavened lets remember Jesus’ sacrifice for us and make a resolution to bother our teacher about everything and be dependent on him continously.

blessings…SD

]]> By: peacechild http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6742 peacechild Tue, 07 Apr 2009 09:07:09 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6742 Mart, I am truly sorry for your loss of valuable work product after the crash of your computer. This must have been so distressing for you. As you well know, our lives are filled with such distressing events, some the result of a mere inconvenience, others a minor catastrophe. In each event, we see our will thwarted and the temptation to frustration is great. We can respond with a rush of adrenalin or we can remember the call of Psalm 46,"Cease your striving and know that I am God." In the peaceful stillness that ensues as we wait on him, we may also be reminded of these wonderful words from Romans 12:12, "Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer." These last words are posted on my desk at eye level; my need to focus on this truth in never ending. Blessings to you, brother. Mart,

I am truly sorry for your loss of valuable work product after the crash of your computer. This must have been so distressing for you.

As you well know, our lives are filled with such distressing events, some the result of a mere inconvenience, others a minor catastrophe. In each event, we see our will thwarted and the temptation to frustration is great.

We can respond with a rush of adrenalin or we can remember the call of Psalm 46,”Cease your striving and know that I am God.”

In the peaceful stillness that ensues as we wait on him, we may also be reminded of these wonderful words from Romans 12:12, “Rejoice in hope, be patient in tribulation, be constant in prayer.”

These last words are posted on my desk at eye level; my need to focus on this truth in never ending.

Blessings to you, brother.

]]> By: Rick123 http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6741 Rick123 Tue, 07 Apr 2009 04:07:33 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6741 poohpity says: Again I must pose a question. It seems in our Christian world we always compare ourselves to precious stones or metals being refined by fire. I have never come across a stone or metal that has a heart, mind, or soul. Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. In this verse we see that John called the multitude Approaching him, O generation of vipers, they thought of themselves as righteous, but inwardly they were vipers.(The serpent(devil) nature) Their righteousness did not exceed that of the gentiles, that is why John told them that God was able to raise up children unto Abraham from stones(God is able to take away our stony heart out of our flesh and give us a heart of flesh, it is a very painful process to go through the breaking down of our stony heart, God uses his hammer to break every piece in our stony heart and grind them to dust, God uses a hammer with his carver tool to carve out our stony heart into the Image of his Son-Jesus. John told them to Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, or be cut down like an unfruitful tree and thrown into the fire to be burned. Then say they: Luk 3:10 And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then? And John said: Luk 3:11 He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise. In the coming verses, people from Different walks of life asked the same as did the group of vipers, What shall we do then? John told them to do justice, mercy, what John told these people to do is in line with scripture> Mic 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Psa 82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy. Psa 89:14 Justice and judgment [are] the habitation of thy throne: mercy and truth shall go before thy face. poohpity says: Again I must pose a question. It seems in our Christian world we always compare ourselves to precious stones or metals being refined by fire. I have never come across a stone or metal that has a heart, mind, or soul.

Luk 3:8 Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, and begin not to say within yourselves, We have Abraham to [our] father: for I say unto you, That God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham.

In this verse we see that John called the multitude Approaching him, O generation of vipers, they thought of themselves as righteous, but inwardly they were vipers.(The serpent(devil) nature)

Their righteousness did not exceed that of the gentiles, that is why John told them that God was able to raise up children unto Abraham from stones(God is able to take away our stony heart out of our flesh and give us a heart of flesh, it is a very painful process to go through the breaking down of our stony heart, God uses his hammer to break every piece in our stony heart and grind them to dust, God uses a hammer with his carver tool to carve out our stony heart into the Image of his Son-Jesus.

John told them to Bring forth therefore fruits worthy of repentance, or be cut down like an unfruitful tree and thrown into the fire to be burned.

Then say they: Luk 3:10 And the people asked him, saying, What shall we do then?

And John said: Luk 3:11 He answereth and saith unto them, He that hath two coats, let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.

In the coming verses, people from Different walks of life asked the same as did the group of vipers, What shall we do then?

John told them to do justice, mercy, what John told these people to do is in line with scripture> Mic 6:8 He hath shewed thee, O man, what [is] good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God?

Psa 82:3 Defend the poor and fatherless: do justice to the afflicted and needy.

Psa 89:14 Justice and judgment [are] the habitation of thy throne: mercy and truth shall go before thy face.

]]> By: sitsathisfeet http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/05/passover-inventory/#comment-6740 sitsathisfeet Tue, 07 Apr 2009 01:26:02 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=4963#comment-6740 Laney Thanks for your responsive comment I hoped no one would take offense and think I was referring to them, only to myself and how it applied, and in this case to my son and daughter-in-law speaking of some of their acquaintances etc. Also Laurielee I didn't see your previous post on your "experience" til today, but was blessed by reading it. God is so awesome, he always meets us at the perfect place, some may have dramatic visions as Paul did while other's calling is more subtle such as the disciple Jesus saw standing "over there" was amazed, and Jesus replied so you say, you will see much more amazing things than that! Like Mart says the Lord is Lord over all seen, unseen, known, and unknown. Praise Be the Lord! Laney Thanks for your responsive comment I hoped no one would take offense and think I was referring to them, only to myself and how it applied, and in this case to my son and daughter-in-law speaking of some of their acquaintances etc. Also Laurielee I didn’t see your previous post on your “experience” til today, but was blessed by reading it. God is so awesome, he always meets us at the perfect place, some may have dramatic visions as Paul did while other’s calling is more subtle such as the disciple Jesus saw standing “over there” was amazed, and Jesus replied so you say, you will see much more amazing things than that! Like Mart says the Lord is Lord over all seen, unseen, known, and unknown. Praise Be the Lord!

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