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		<title>By: poohpity</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/18/surprising-the-crowd-and-the-judges/#comment-7198</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 06:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick123,

 Read Ezekiel 28:11 and 12. It was what the Lord gave Ezekiel to tell the king of Tyre. There is so much history with Tyre and in knowing that may explain what Ezekiel is saying about it&#039;s past experiences.

The Matthew passage shows us to be very careful when looking at the behaviors of others when we have so much of our own stuff that needs to be dealt with.

I would have liked the answers to my questions to come from the bible only and in my journey and reading of it I have not seen what you are trying to say not that it may not be true but I have never read it. My journey is not over yet so maybe one day I will see what you are saying for now I am choosing to let it go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick123,</p>
<p> Read Ezekiel 28:11 and 12. It was what the Lord gave Ezekiel to tell the king of Tyre. There is so much history with Tyre and in knowing that may explain what Ezekiel is saying about it&#8217;s past experiences.</p>
<p>The Matthew passage shows us to be very careful when looking at the behaviors of others when we have so much of our own stuff that needs to be dealt with.</p>
<p>I would have liked the answers to my questions to come from the bible only and in my journey and reading of it I have not seen what you are trying to say not that it may not be true but I have never read it. My journey is not over yet so maybe one day I will see what you are saying for now I am choosing to let it go.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick123</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/18/surprising-the-crowd-and-the-judges/#comment-7195</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Apr 2009 03:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poohpity: I have answered your questions from the Lexicon / Concordance, but you don&#039;t understand. Once again here they are: Lexicon Results Strong’s H4399 - mĕla’kah מלאכה occupation, work, business…(The workmanship)...Lexicon Results Strong’s H8596 - toph תף timbrel, tambourine…(timbrels)...Lexicon Results Strong’s H5345 - neqeb נקב groove, socket, hole, cavity, settings…(pipes=Trumpets).

In these scriptures(Eze 28:12-19; Isa 14:11-15) it is referring  to lucifer who is now satan, the angel that rebelled against the Most High. 
You said that the Ezekiel passages were prophesies given to the king of Tyre.

Show me in scripture were God has ever said to any man: You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.”(Eze 28:14) 

Show me in scripture were God has ever said to any man: You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, till iniquity was found in you.(Eze 28:15)

Show me in scripture were God has ever said to any man:  and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.(Eze 28:16)

You said that the Isaiah passages were prophesies given against Babylon.

When has God ever said to any king or man from any nation: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!

When has any man ever said in his heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:

When has any man ever said in his heart, I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.

Now are these scriptures(Eze 28:12-19; Isa 14:11-15) that are referring  to lucifer who is now satan a lie and not in line with scripture?

Concerning Matthew 7:1-5; should be understood according with other scriptures. Should we judge according to our flesh? or according to God&#039;s word, which is his sword. According to God&#039;s word we should judge with a righteous judgment(John 7:24).

Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. (How are we going to know as undesirable the behaviors of &quot;dogs&quot; and &quot;swine&quot; if we do not judge?  Jesus uses really strong language here. At first, he seems to be breaking the very command that he just gave about being non-judgmental. But instead, Jesus is reminding us that being non-judgmental does not mean we are undiscerning, wasteful, and silly.)


1 Corinthians 6:2-3 (New International Version)

&quot;Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poohpity: I have answered your questions from the Lexicon / Concordance, but you don&#8217;t understand. Once again here they are: Lexicon Results Strong’s H4399 &#8211; mĕla’kah מלאכה occupation, work, business…(The workmanship)&#8230;Lexicon Results Strong’s H8596 &#8211; toph תף timbrel, tambourine…(timbrels)&#8230;Lexicon Results Strong’s H5345 &#8211; neqeb נקב groove, socket, hole, cavity, settings…(pipes=Trumpets).</p>
<p>In these scriptures(Eze 28:12-19; Isa 14:11-15) it is referring  to lucifer who is now satan, the angel that rebelled against the Most High.<br />
You said that the Ezekiel passages were prophesies given to the king of Tyre.</p>
<p>Show me in scripture were God has ever said to any man: You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.”(Eze 28:14) </p>
<p>Show me in scripture were God has ever said to any man: You were perfect in your ways from the day that you were created, till iniquity was found in you.(Eze 28:15)</p>
<p>Show me in scripture were God has ever said to any man:  and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.(Eze 28:16)</p>
<p>You said that the Isaiah passages were prophesies given against Babylon.</p>
<p>When has God ever said to any king or man from any nation: How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!</p>
<p>When has any man ever said in his heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:</p>
<p>When has any man ever said in his heart, I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.</p>
<p>Now are these scriptures(Eze 28:12-19; Isa 14:11-15) that are referring  to lucifer who is now satan a lie and not in line with scripture?</p>
<p>Concerning Matthew 7:1-5; should be understood according with other scriptures. Should we judge according to our flesh? or according to God&#8217;s word, which is his sword. According to God&#8217;s word we should judge with a righteous judgment(John 7:24).</p>
<p>Mat 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you. (How are we going to know as undesirable the behaviors of &#8220;dogs&#8221; and &#8220;swine&#8221; if we do not judge?  Jesus uses really strong language here. At first, he seems to be breaking the very command that he just gave about being non-judgmental. But instead, Jesus is reminding us that being non-judgmental does not mean we are undiscerning, wasteful, and silly.)</p>
<p>1 Corinthians 6:2-3 (New International Version)</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if you are to judge the world, are you not competent to judge trivial cases? 3Do you not know that we will judge angels? How much more the things of this life!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: poohpity</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/18/surprising-the-crowd-and-the-judges/#comment-7177</link>
		<dc:creator>poohpity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 18:51:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Ezekiel passages were prophesies given to the king of Tyre and the Isaiah passages were prophesies against Babylon.

I do not know where, &quot;You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in the Garden of Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created. You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.” was written but am open to learning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Ezekiel passages were prophesies given to the king of Tyre and the Isaiah passages were prophesies against Babylon.</p>
<p>I do not know where, &#8220;You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in the Garden of Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created. You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.” was written but am open to learning.</p>
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		<title>By: Rick123</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/18/surprising-the-crowd-and-the-judges/#comment-7153</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poohpity: &quot;You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in the Garden of Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created. You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.&quot; 
 
Lexicon Results Strong&#039;s H4399 - mĕla&#039;kah מלאכה occupation, work, business...(The workmanship)

Lexicon Results Strong&#039;s H8596 - toph תף  timbrel, tambourine...(timbrels)


Lexicon Results Strong&#039;s H5345 - neqeb נקב  groove, socket, hole, cavity, settings...(pipes=Trumpets)


Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee. 
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire. 
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee. 
Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee. 
Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. 

Isa 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee. 
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. 
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poohpity: &#8220;You were the seal of perfection, full of wisdom and perfect in beauty. You were in the Garden of Eden, the garden of God; Every precious stone was your covering: The sardius, topaz, and diamond, Beryl, onyx, and jasper, Sapphire, turquoise, and emerald with gold. The workmanship of your timbrels and pipes was prepared for you on the day you were created. You were the anointed cherub who covers; I established you; You were on the holy mountain of God; You walked back and forth in the midst of fiery stones.&#8221; </p>
<p>Lexicon Results Strong&#8217;s H4399 &#8211; mĕla&#8217;kah מלאכה occupation, work, business&#8230;(The workmanship)</p>
<p>Lexicon Results Strong&#8217;s H8596 &#8211; toph תף  timbrel, tambourine&#8230;(timbrels)</p>
<p>Lexicon Results Strong&#8217;s H5345 &#8211; neqeb נקב  groove, socket, hole, cavity, settings&#8230;(pipes=Trumpets)</p>
<p>Eze 28:15 Thou wast perfect in thy ways from the day that thou wast created, till iniquity was found in thee.<br />
Eze 28:16 By the multitude of thy merchandise they have filled the midst of thee with violence, and thou hast sinned: therefore I will cast thee as profane out of the mountain of God: and I will destroy thee, O covering cherub, from the midst of the stones of fire.<br />
Eze 28:17 Thine heart was lifted up because of thy beauty, thou hast corrupted thy wisdom by reason of thy brightness: I will cast thee to the ground, I will lay thee before kings, that they may behold thee.<br />
Eze 28:18 Thou hast defiled thy sanctuaries by the multitude of thine iniquities, by the iniquity of thy traffic; therefore will I bring forth a fire from the midst of thee, it shall devour thee, and I will bring thee to ashes upon the earth in the sight of all them that behold thee.<br />
Eze 28:19 All they that know thee among the people shall be astonished at thee: thou shalt be a terror, and never shalt thou be any more. </p>
<p>Isa 14:11 Thy pomp is brought down to the grave, and the noise of thy viols: the worm is spread under thee, and the worms cover thee.<br />
Isa 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations!<br />
Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:<br />
Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High.<br />
Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit.</p>
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		<title>By: poohpity</title>
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		<dc:creator>poohpity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:48:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick123,

Where did you get, &quot;his(lucifer) occupation, was to play the timbrel, trumpet, and I guess, he did play some other instruments in their praise to the Most High, lucifer on the day he was created was endowed with maximum wisdom, perfect beauty, and a voice with harmonics and range surpassing all others”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick123,</p>
<p>Where did you get, &#8220;his(lucifer) occupation, was to play the timbrel, trumpet, and I guess, he did play some other instruments in their praise to the Most High, lucifer on the day he was created was endowed with maximum wisdom, perfect beauty, and a voice with harmonics and range surpassing all others”?</p>
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		<title>By: Rick123</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/18/surprising-the-crowd-and-the-judges/#comment-7148</link>
		<dc:creator>Rick123</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Apr 2009 01:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>poohpity: You misunderstood me, I did not say that lucifer was at the side of the Most High. I said, &quot;were the Most High is enthroned with his Son(Jesus) at his side.&quot; when I said that, I was not referring to lucifer, but to the Son-Jesus.

And according to scripture no other creature has been by the Most High&#039;s right hand, only the Son-Jesus. I have never seen in scripture, were it says that there is some other person at the left hand of the Most High.(Hbr 1:3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;(Most High) who created all things, through his Son. 

We can prove by scripture that Jesus has always been at his Father&#039;s right hand side, for he was and is, the wisdom(1Cr 1:24...Wisdom of God) of the Most High. This is what the Most High said of his Son through him(Jesus). &quot;Then was I(Wisdom-Jesus) besides him(Most High-the Father), as an architect, skilled workman with him(Most High-the Father). and I was daily [his] delight, rejoicing always( at all times) before(presence of) him&quot;(((Pro 8:30)...Now Jesus took back his position he had before he came to our world, according to scripture.(Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.(to be, to exist)  

Was Jesus a Son before the foundation of the world? according to scripture, he was his Son. 
(Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what [is] his name,(YHVH the Father) and what [is] his son&#039;s name,(YH&#039;Saves the Son) if thou canst tell?) 

Lucifer was not and never will be equal with the Father, for he(Father) is the Godhead((&quot;To be&quot; &quot;He who causes to be,&quot;  YHVH declares God&#039;s absolute being - the source of everything, without beginning and without end. &quot;He is,&quot; &quot;He will be,&quot; &quot;He lives,&quot;  &quot;He who is self-existing, self-sufficient,&quot; and He is the source and author of life. &quot;I will be,&quot; indicates a connection between the name YHVH and being itself. YHVH is the Source of all being and has being inherent in himself(He is necessary Being), Everything else is contingent being that derives from him. He is the Source and foundation of all that Is, He is before all that Is, for He is the the Source and foundation of that Is. there is no power besides Him, for He is all that Is.)) 

And it &quot;pleased&quot; the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.(All that the Father Is, dwells in Christ, for all things have been &quot;given&quot; unto him, even his eternal power and Godhead. For it was the Father&#039;s &quot;will&quot; that in him should dwell all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.

And all things were &quot;given&quot; unto Jesus by his God and Father, even his(Father) Eternal Power was DELEGATED unto his Anointed One through the Spirit of the Father, to accomplish his(Father) Eternal Purpose through Him(Jesus) unto the Glory of the Father.

He(Father) has SET Jesus as King over all things that He(Father) created through his Son-Jesus.

He(Father) that is Unsearchable in his perfection, ways, and power, gave life unto his Son-Jesus, before all things, when he(Father) who was alone and has been, is, and ever will be, the Only One True Source, out of whom are all things(Creatures). 

According to scripture, Jesus is not over his head, who is the Father, the head of the family. all his(Father) family are in subjection through his Son-Jesus, and even the Son-Jesus is subject unto his Father forever.

According to scripture, there is Only One True Source, out of whom, are all things, and all that Is, has it&#039;s being from the Only One True Source, who is the Father.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>poohpity: You misunderstood me, I did not say that lucifer was at the side of the Most High. I said, &#8220;were the Most High is enthroned with his Son(Jesus) at his side.&#8221; when I said that, I was not referring to lucifer, but to the Son-Jesus.</p>
<p>And according to scripture no other creature has been by the Most High&#8217;s right hand, only the Son-Jesus. I have never seen in scripture, were it says that there is some other person at the left hand of the Most High.(Hbr 1:3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;(Most High) who created all things, through his Son. </p>
<p>We can prove by scripture that Jesus has always been at his Father&#8217;s right hand side, for he was and is, the wisdom(1Cr 1:24&#8230;Wisdom of God) of the Most High. This is what the Most High said of his Son through him(Jesus). &#8220;Then was I(Wisdom-Jesus) besides him(Most High-the Father), as an architect, skilled workman with him(Most High-the Father). and I was daily [his] delight, rejoicing always( at all times) before(presence of) him&#8221;(((Pro 8:30)&#8230;Now Jesus took back his position he had before he came to our world, according to scripture.(Jhn 17:5 And now, O Father, glorify thou me with thine own self with the glory which I had with thee before the world was.(to be, to exist)  </p>
<p>Was Jesus a Son before the foundation of the world? according to scripture, he was his Son.<br />
(Pro 30:4 Who hath ascended up into heaven, or descended? who hath gathered the wind in his fists? who hath bound the waters in a garment? who hath established all the ends of the earth? what [is] his name,(YHVH the Father) and what [is] his son&#8217;s name,(YH&#8217;Saves the Son) if thou canst tell?) </p>
<p>Lucifer was not and never will be equal with the Father, for he(Father) is the Godhead((&#8220;To be&#8221; &#8220;He who causes to be,&#8221;  YHVH declares God&#8217;s absolute being &#8211; the source of everything, without beginning and without end. &#8220;He is,&#8221; &#8220;He will be,&#8221; &#8220;He lives,&#8221;  &#8220;He who is self-existing, self-sufficient,&#8221; and He is the source and author of life. &#8220;I will be,&#8221; indicates a connection between the name YHVH and being itself. YHVH is the Source of all being and has being inherent in himself(He is necessary Being), Everything else is contingent being that derives from him. He is the Source and foundation of all that Is, He is before all that Is, for He is the the Source and foundation of that Is. there is no power besides Him, for He is all that Is.)) </p>
<p>And it &#8220;pleased&#8221; the Father that in him should all fulness dwell.(All that the Father Is, dwells in Christ, for all things have been &#8220;given&#8221; unto him, even his eternal power and Godhead. For it was the Father&#8217;s &#8220;will&#8221; that in him should dwell all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.</p>
<p>And all things were &#8220;given&#8221; unto Jesus by his God and Father, even his(Father) Eternal Power was DELEGATED unto his Anointed One through the Spirit of the Father, to accomplish his(Father) Eternal Purpose through Him(Jesus) unto the Glory of the Father.</p>
<p>He(Father) has SET Jesus as King over all things that He(Father) created through his Son-Jesus.</p>
<p>He(Father) that is Unsearchable in his perfection, ways, and power, gave life unto his Son-Jesus, before all things, when he(Father) who was alone and has been, is, and ever will be, the Only One True Source, out of whom are all things(Creatures). </p>
<p>According to scripture, Jesus is not over his head, who is the Father, the head of the family. all his(Father) family are in subjection through his Son-Jesus, and even the Son-Jesus is subject unto his Father forever.</p>
<p>According to scripture, there is Only One True Source, out of whom, are all things, and all that Is, has it&#8217;s being from the Only One True Source, who is the Father.</p>
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		<title>By: poohpity</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/18/surprising-the-crowd-and-the-judges/#comment-7131</link>
		<dc:creator>poohpity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:59:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow Steve, I bet the Lord was growing Matthew&#039;s faith. This is an answer to prayer about his purpose in life.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow Steve, I bet the Lord was growing Matthew&#8217;s faith. This is an answer to prayer about his purpose in life.</p>
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		<title>By: poohpity</title>
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		<dc:creator>poohpity</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:57:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rick123,
You said, &quot;He was invested with one of God’s great positions in heaven, were the Most High is enthroned with his Son at his side, his(lucifer) occupation, was to play the timbrel, trumpet, and I guess, he did play some other instruments in their praise to the Most High, lucifer on the day he was created was endowed with maximum wisdom, perfect beauty, and a voice with harmonics and range surpassing all others&quot;. This is what I questioned I do not believe that lucifer was enthroned at the side of God that would put another person in the Trinity and there are only three. There is one group that believes this to be true however I do not.

I do however believe that obviously there is one who would deceive us to believe in everything against God. Satan is the FATHER of all lies and deception but has none of the power of the Godhead.

As far as asking for wisdom and that only God is able to supply wisdom, I know that is true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rick123,<br />
You said, &#8220;He was invested with one of God’s great positions in heaven, were the Most High is enthroned with his Son at his side, his(lucifer) occupation, was to play the timbrel, trumpet, and I guess, he did play some other instruments in their praise to the Most High, lucifer on the day he was created was endowed with maximum wisdom, perfect beauty, and a voice with harmonics and range surpassing all others&#8221;. This is what I questioned I do not believe that lucifer was enthroned at the side of God that would put another person in the Trinity and there are only three. There is one group that believes this to be true however I do not.</p>
<p>I do however believe that obviously there is one who would deceive us to believe in everything against God. Satan is the FATHER of all lies and deception but has none of the power of the Godhead.</p>
<p>As far as asking for wisdom and that only God is able to supply wisdom, I know that is true.</p>
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		<title>By: pegramsdell</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/18/surprising-the-crowd-and-the-judges/#comment-7120</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:50:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Steve, great dream your son had, sounds like prophecy to me. Sweet! Thank you for sharing, I so needed that. Sounds like The Lord is speaking to Matthew. He did say that He would give our children dreams and visions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Steve, great dream your son had, sounds like prophecy to me. Sweet! Thank you for sharing, I so needed that. Sounds like The Lord is speaking to Matthew. He did say that He would give our children dreams and visions.</p>
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		<title>By: laney</title>
		<link>http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/04/18/surprising-the-crowd-and-the-judges/#comment-7119</link>
		<dc:creator>laney</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 20 Apr 2009 12:44:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry I forgot to write Acts 2;17 before and it shall come to pass.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry I forgot to write Acts 2;17 before and it shall come to pass.</p>
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