Comments on: GM and Us http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/ with Mart De Haan and Friends Thu, 18 Mar 2010 14:18:33 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: tandgmartin http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8367 tandgmartin Sat, 06 Jun 2009 23:07:49 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8367 OT: It seems that no matter the subject, on the thumbs up/thumbs down feature it always seems there's one less thumbs up than the total. Is there someone who just feels that there can't be 100% and always votes thumbs down no matter what? Just wondering. OT: It seems that no matter the subject, on the thumbs up/thumbs down feature it always seems there’s one less thumbs up than the total. Is there someone who just feels that there can’t be 100% and always votes thumbs down no matter what? Just wondering.

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8365 poohpity Sat, 06 Jun 2009 21:28:11 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8365 The whole earth was blessed through Israel by Jesus. We as believers are the apple of God's eye. No land mass is any more Holy than any other. It is people that God is concerned about we are the only thing offered an eternal life. The whole earth was blessed through Israel by Jesus. We as believers are the apple of God’s eye. No land mass is any more Holy than any other. It is people that God is concerned about we are the only thing offered an eternal life.

]]> By: Rick123 http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8363 Rick123 Sat, 06 Jun 2009 20:22:20 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8363 su: If the USA or any nation divide God's land, his eternal resting place(the throne of the Highest), she will be divided in parts. For Jerusalem will become a cup of trembling unto all the nations that come against her. Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: [this shall be] the portion of their cup. Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee. And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed. su: If the USA or any nation divide God’s land, his eternal resting place(the throne of the Highest), she will be divided in parts. For Jerusalem will become a cup of trembling unto all the nations that come against her. Upon the wicked he shall rain snares, fire and brimstone, and an horrible tempest: [this shall be] the portion of their cup.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem: they shall prosper that love thee.

And I will bless them that bless thee, and curse him that curseth thee: and in thee shall all families of the earth be blessed.

]]> By: su http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8361 su Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:02:34 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8361 Rick123, what do you mean that 'she must not touch the apple of God's eye'? I think I get everything else you are saying and find it very interesting! We do need to watch and pray!! Rick123, what do you mean that ’she must not touch the apple of God’s eye’? I think I get everything else you are saying and find it very interesting! We do need to watch and pray!!

]]> By: Rick123 http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8352 Rick123 Sat, 06 Jun 2009 07:57:07 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8352 The USA was built upon the Rock, Jesus Christ, and she has been a light unto the world. But if her house forgets Jesus, her fall will be great. For, her foundations will shake greatly, and will come crumbling to the ground. She must not touch the apple of God's eye, because her house will be divided into two half's, and a house divided against itself will not stand. The USA was built upon the Rock, Jesus Christ, and she has been a light unto the world. But if her house forgets Jesus, her fall will be great. For, her foundations will shake greatly, and will come crumbling to the ground.

She must not touch the apple of God’s eye, because her house will be divided into two half’s, and a house divided against itself will not stand.

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8351 poohpity Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:24:40 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8351 Thank you cherielyn for keeping us posted and praise God for His care. Gr8granny had eye surgery on thursday too hope all went well. Thank you cherielyn for keeping us posted and praise God for His care. Gr8granny had eye surgery on thursday too hope all went well.

]]> By: cherielyn http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8350 cherielyn Sat, 06 Jun 2009 01:12:20 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8350 There is a GM plant in our state that closed a few months ago. The closing of the plant did not just affect the workers at that plant, but also many businesses that supplied parts and materials to the plant. Lots of trickle down unemployment. My daughter worked for a well known world-wide diversified technology company for 15 years. The company closed the division she worked at last August. She's going to school to learn a new career. At 38 and just getting married for the first time, next month, she has had her qualms about what the future holds, but is relying heavily on God's direction for her life. Relying on God: My son, Mike, had his surgery yesterday. The surgery, itself, went well. However, he had a problem in recovery - spent the rest of yesterday & today in ICU because he stopped breathing and had to be put on a ventilator. He was better later today and breathing on his own. Nursing staff assured me he was out of the woods and told me I should go home to get some rest. Thanks for all your prayers. There is a GM plant in our state that closed a few months ago. The closing of the plant did not just affect the workers at that plant, but also many businesses that supplied parts and materials to the plant. Lots of trickle down unemployment.

My daughter worked for a well known world-wide diversified technology company for 15 years. The company closed the division she worked at last August. She’s going to school to learn a new career. At 38 and just getting married for the first time, next month, she has had her qualms about what the future holds, but is relying heavily on God’s direction for her life.

Relying on God: My son, Mike, had his surgery yesterday. The surgery, itself, went well. However, he had a problem in recovery – spent the rest of yesterday & today in ICU because he stopped breathing and had to be put on a ventilator. He was better later today and breathing on his own. Nursing staff assured me he was out of the woods and told me I should go home to get some rest.

Thanks for all your prayers.

]]> By: saled http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8349 saled Fri, 05 Jun 2009 22:14:21 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8349 Daisymarygoldr, thank you for the explaination of "poor in spirit". I've always wondered about the meaning of that phrase. Sometimes I've thought it might refer to mentally handicapped people (I work in a school, sometimes with special needs children). Your explaination helped expand on that for me. I think you're right, we do have to be emptied of ourselves ( realize our state of bankruptcy) to receive the riches of Christ and enter the kingdom of God. Daisymarygoldr, thank you for the explaination of “poor in spirit”. I’ve always wondered about the meaning of that phrase. Sometimes I’ve thought it might refer to mentally handicapped people (I work in a school, sometimes with special needs children). Your explaination helped expand on that for me. I think you’re right, we do have to be emptied of ourselves ( realize our state of bankruptcy) to
receive the riches of Christ and enter the kingdom of God.

]]> By: daisymarygoldr http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8348 daisymarygoldr Fri, 05 Jun 2009 20:41:34 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8348 Can’t really comment on GM… as you said it is no big surprise… It is no big surprise that Communism has already failed and now…Capitalism is on the verge of bankruptcy. Every human-conceived philosophy and political and economic endeavor or institution… whether they are giant business organizations of corporate America or they are successful kingdoms, countries or civilizations of this world… history has proven time and again… the futility of man's efforts. "No flesh can glory in God's presence." It is true, that for some of us who have learned not to trust the arm of flesh… admitting our spiritual bankruptcy before God is the best decision… it always leads to a win-win situation: On the one hand, it helps us receive the riches of Christ and on the other hand it helps us give away riches of Christ to others… Our beggarliness without Christ can be understood only when we encounter bankruptcy. As long as we feel secure about ourselves it only fills us with pride that blinds us to our desperate need for Christ. Without Christ… all human good works of love, grace, mercy, compassion and righteousness… are like filthy rags that speak of poverty and wretchedness. Hence Christ counsels us to come and buy from Him “gold tried by fire” that we may be rich. If we want to be rich… we have to buy… which means there is a price that has to be paid. What is the price? It is at the cost of emptying ourselves…Only the "poor in spirit" i.e. those who have emptied themselves of their “self- riches” … namely self-wisdom, self-trust, self- righteousness, self-love etc… are in a position to receive the riches of Christ. Our Lord Jesus Christ, though He was rich, yet for our sakes He became poor… He became completely bankrupt i.e. emptied Himself… so that we through His poverty might become rich. Likewise, we who have been enriched with all the rich treasures of belonging to Christ become spiritually bankrupt for the sake of the Gospel… so, though we are poor, yet we give spiritual riches to others. We own nothing, and yet we have everything. 2 Cor 6:9 As children of God’s kingdom, may we always find ourselves as broken, emptied and bankrupt at the foot of His Cross... in order to be filled with the riches of His wisdom, knowledge, love, grace, mercy and faith! Can’t really comment on GM… as you said it is no big surprise… It is no big surprise that Communism has already failed and now…Capitalism is on the verge of bankruptcy.

Every human-conceived philosophy and political and economic endeavor or institution… whether they are giant business organizations of corporate America or they are successful kingdoms, countries or civilizations of this world… history has proven time and again… the futility of man’s efforts. “No flesh can glory in God’s presence.”

It is true, that for some of us who have learned not to trust the arm of flesh… admitting our spiritual bankruptcy before God is the best decision… it always leads to a win-win situation: On the one hand, it helps us receive the riches of Christ and on the other hand it helps us give away riches of Christ to others…

Our beggarliness without Christ can be understood only when we encounter bankruptcy. As long as we feel secure about ourselves it only fills us with pride that blinds us to our desperate need for Christ.

Without Christ… all human good works of love, grace, mercy, compassion and righteousness… are like filthy rags that speak of poverty and wretchedness. Hence Christ counsels us to come and buy from Him “gold tried by fire” that we may be rich. If we want to be rich… we have to buy… which means there is a price that has to be paid.

What is the price? It is at the cost of emptying ourselves…Only the “poor in spirit” i.e. those who have emptied themselves of their “self- riches” … namely self-wisdom, self-trust, self- righteousness, self-love etc… are in a position to receive the riches of Christ.

Our Lord Jesus Christ, though He was rich, yet for our sakes He became poor… He became completely bankrupt i.e. emptied Himself… so that we through His poverty might become rich.

Likewise, we who have been enriched with all the rich treasures of belonging to Christ become spiritually bankrupt for the sake of the Gospel… so, though we are poor, yet we give spiritual riches to others. We own nothing, and yet we have everything. 2 Cor 6:9

As children of God’s kingdom, may we always find ourselves as broken, emptied and bankrupt at the foot of His Cross… in order to be filled with the riches of His wisdom, knowledge, love, grace, mercy and faith!

]]> By: kaliko88 http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/06/04/gm-and-us/#comment-8347 kaliko88 Fri, 05 Jun 2009 19:03:46 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=5737#comment-8347 Actually, I don't think the thought comparison is that far off. We do tend to rely on our own ideas, our own determinations of how to do things. And when it all collapses, hopefully we will fall into God's hands, and let Him be the government of our lives. Matter of fact, that's what's coming soon, Jesus' government. It's a lesson I'm still learning. I keep trying to do it my way, and tripping. So the question really isn't "How did I not see it coming?" as much as it is "When I'm going to learn better?" Actually, I don’t think the thought comparison is that far off. We do tend to rely on our own ideas, our own determinations of how to do things. And when it all collapses, hopefully we will fall into God’s hands, and let Him be the government of our lives. Matter of fact, that’s what’s coming soon, Jesus’ government. It’s a lesson I’m still learning. I keep trying to do it my way, and tripping. So the question really isn’t “How did I not see it coming?” as much as it is “When I’m going to learn better?”

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