Comments on: How Not to be Holy http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/ with Mart De Haan and Friends Sun, 14 Mar 2010 06:55:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Godmakesmeable http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10356 Godmakesmeable Sat, 17 Oct 2009 03:54:34 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10356 As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another. Proverbs 27:16-18 What reason do we ever have to be offended? Not that we don't do it, but what is our excuse? LIVING WATERS. There are some hearts like wells, green-mossed and deep As ever summer saw; And cool their water is, - yeah, cool and sweet, - But you must come to draw. They hoard not, yet they rest in calm content, And not unsought will give: They can be quiet with their wealth unspent, So self-contained they live. And there are some like springs, that bubbling burst To follow dusty ways, And run with offered cup to quench his thirst Where the tired traveler strays; That never ask the meadows if they want What is their joy to give:- Unasked, their lives to other life they grant, So self-bestowed they live. And One is like the ocean, deep and wide, Wherein all waters fall; That girdles the wide earth, and draws the tide, Feeding and bearing all; That broods the mists, that sends the clouds abroad, That takes, again to give: - Even the great and loving heart of God, Whereby all love doth live. Caroline Spencer As iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens another.
Proverbs 27:16-18

What reason do we ever have to be offended? Not that we don’t do it, but what is our excuse?

LIVING WATERS.

There are some hearts like wells, green-mossed and deep
As ever summer saw;
And cool their water is, – yeah, cool and sweet, -
But you must come to draw.
They hoard not, yet they rest in calm content,
And not unsought will give:
They can be quiet with their wealth unspent,
So self-contained they live.

And there are some like springs, that bubbling burst
To follow dusty ways,
And run with offered cup to quench his thirst
Where the tired traveler strays;
That never ask the meadows if they want
What is their joy to give:-
Unasked, their lives to other life they grant,
So self-bestowed they live.

And One is like the ocean, deep and wide,
Wherein all waters fall;
That girdles the wide earth, and draws the tide,
Feeding and bearing all;
That broods the mists, that sends the clouds abroad,
That takes, again to give: -
Even the great and loving heart of God,
Whereby all love doth live.

Caroline Spencer

]]> By: daisymarygoldr http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10032 daisymarygoldr Wed, 30 Sep 2009 19:15:43 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10032 Michael, it is such a happy relief that you are starting to understand—not your Sunday school teacher but the Holy Spirit-our divine teacher, who is faithfully teaching all of us about what it means to be a follower of Christ. For a moment I almost thought this night of weeping will never end but your words have revived my hope to sense the dawn of a joyful morn… and for this I shall remain eternally grateful to God for having answered my prayers in you! Really looking forward to meeting you in Heaven someday soon and celebrate this moment with a double high five… but for now you get to be the line leader! Although you are silently participating in these discussions, I know you have been sincerely doing your homework. You are also much loved in the Lord… and in any other way:) Michael, it is such a happy relief that you are starting to understand—not your Sunday school teacher but the Holy Spirit-our divine teacher, who is faithfully teaching all of us about what it means to be a follower of Christ. For a moment I almost thought this night of weeping will never end but your words have revived my hope to sense the dawn of a joyful morn… and for this I shall remain eternally grateful to God for having answered my prayers in you! Really looking forward to meeting you in Heaven someday soon and celebrate this moment with a double high five… but for now you get to be the line leader! Although you are silently participating in these discussions, I know you have been sincerely doing your homework. You are also much loved in the Lord… and in any other way:)

]]> By: plumbape http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10027 plumbape Wed, 30 Sep 2009 01:56:35 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10027 As scary as this sounds...., I think the Ape from Indy is finally starting to understand Daisy. (my imaginary Sunday School Teacher) I find myself agreeing with you very much.... but There is a difference between paper law and trial law. It is in the application of the Word and the individual blessings the Lord gave that person. The poor man and the oppressor have this in common; The Lord gave sight to both. proverbs 29:13 You are very much loved in the Lord and any other way. Tell your husband I said he is the luckiest man on the planet! Michael As scary as this sounds…., I think the Ape from Indy is finally starting to understand Daisy. (my imaginary Sunday School Teacher) I find myself agreeing with you very much…. but

There is a difference between paper law and trial law. It is in the application of the Word and the individual blessings the Lord gave that person.

The poor man and the oppressor have this in common;
The Lord gave sight to both. proverbs 29:13

You are very much loved in the Lord and any other way. Tell your husband I said he is the luckiest man on the planet!

Michael

]]> By: daisymarygoldr http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10025 daisymarygoldr Tue, 29 Sep 2009 23:04:16 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10025 dependent, Steve, foreverblessed, refump and Deborah, I really thank God for the loving fellowship I get to enjoy here with you all! You are all much loved in the Lord… Keep posting! dependent, Steve, foreverblessed, refump and Deborah, I really thank God for the loving fellowship I get to enjoy here with you all! You are all much loved in the Lord… Keep posting!

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10020 poohpity Tue, 29 Sep 2009 16:24:52 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10020 dmg, I hope what I am about to say is taken with all the love it is intended to hold. Over many, many months now the same issue is addressed by many different people about the feeling of superiority or pride in your knowledge of scripture without the heart or grace of our Lord. The bible tells us when we see a brother/sister stumbling with sin to address that issue. Many have tried to do exactly that with the pride that exudes from the words that are written by you. We are all the same when we kneel beneath the Cross. Some are further along with scripture knowledge and some are still struggling with some truths. One can know the bible inside and out and still miss the principles contained through out those pages. It may benefit each of us to carefully and prayerfully look at the message we are presenting to others. I personally care very dearly for you and hope this is taken with all the love it is intended to bring your way but this may be something to look at in your life. I am a perfectly imperfect child Of God as we all are and we each have our struggles this may be one to consider. In love Deborah dmg,
I hope what I am about to say is taken with all the love it is intended to hold. Over many, many months now the same issue is addressed by many different people about the feeling of superiority or pride in your knowledge of scripture without the heart or grace of our Lord. The bible tells us when we see a brother/sister stumbling with sin to address that issue. Many have tried to do exactly that with the pride that exudes from the words that are written by you. We are all the same when we kneel beneath the Cross. Some are further along with scripture knowledge and some are still struggling with some truths. One can know the bible inside and out and still miss the principles contained through out those pages. It may benefit each of us to carefully and prayerfully look at the message we are presenting to others. I personally care very dearly for you and hope this is taken with all the love it is intended to bring your way but this may be something to look at in your life. I am a perfectly imperfect child Of God as we all are and we each have our struggles this may be one to consider. In love Deborah

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10019 poohpity Tue, 29 Sep 2009 15:57:44 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10019 Amen refump! Amen refump!

]]> By: refump http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10016 refump Tue, 29 Sep 2009 13:26:21 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10016 DMG, Thanks for the response about the superior issue. In response to your question to me, "as a Christian why do you use these terms to accuse fellow Christians who choose to stand for God’s truths?", I, again, am not sure what you mean by that. I don't feel i accused anyone of anything. I am not qualified or do I have any ground to stand on to accuse anyone of anything. I apologize if I have accused anyone of anything. I just question the superior comments because all I think of when I hear the word superior is someone expressing that they are better than everyone else. Maybe I am too narrow in my thinking on this & that is why I was looking to you to help guide me to a deeper understanding. I look at superiority as sort of like the thing the disciples would often get bogged down in arguing amongst themselves who was going to have a choicest seat in heaven or who was next in command & Jesus would instruct them that the first shall be last & the last shall be first & blessed are the meek & blessed are the poor in spirit. That is what I meant by not being able to understand “the marriage of humility & superior attitudes living in harmony”. I have been involved in sports all my life & as you can see by my name on this blog I am not involved in officiating a couple of sports so I know what it means to commit to training to win an event. One of the most challenging scriptures for me comes from Paul were he writes in 1st Corinthians 9: 24-25You've all been to the stadium and seen the athletes race. Everyone runs; one wins. Run to win. All good athletes train hard. They do it for a gold medal that tarnishes and fades. You're after one that's gold eternally. 26-27I don't know about you, but I'm running hard for the finish line. I'm giving it everything I've got. No sloppy living for me! I'm staying alert and in top condition. I'm not going to get caught napping, telling everyone else all about it and then missing out myself. I find myself falling miserably short but this verse tells me not to get sloppy & to press on. So that, by the grace & strength of God & His Holy Spirit, is what what I shall do. God's blessings on each of you. DMG, Thanks for the response about the superior issue. In response to your question to me, “as a Christian why do you use these terms to accuse fellow Christians who choose to stand for God’s truths?”, I, again, am not sure what you mean by that. I don’t feel i accused anyone of anything. I am not qualified or do I have any ground to stand on to accuse anyone of anything. I apologize if I have accused anyone of anything. I just question the superior comments because all I think of when I hear the word superior is someone expressing that they are better than everyone else. Maybe I am too narrow in my thinking on this & that is why I was looking to you to help guide me to a deeper understanding. I look at superiority as sort of like the thing the disciples would often get bogged down in arguing amongst themselves who was going to have a choicest seat in heaven or who was next in command & Jesus would instruct them that the first shall be last & the last shall be first & blessed are the meek & blessed are the poor in spirit. That is what I meant by not being able to understand “the marriage of humility & superior attitudes living in harmony”. I have been involved in sports all my life & as you can see by my name on this blog I am not involved in officiating a couple of sports so I know what it means to commit to training to win an event. One of the most challenging scriptures for me comes from Paul were he writes in 1st Corinthians 9:
24-25You’ve all been to the stadium and seen the athletes race. Everyone runs; one wins. Run to win. All good athletes train hard. They do it for a gold medal that tarnishes and fades. You’re after one that’s gold eternally.

26-27I don’t know about you, but I’m running hard for the finish line. I’m giving it everything I’ve got. No sloppy living for me! I’m staying alert and in top condition. I’m not going to get caught napping, telling everyone else all about it and then missing out myself.

I find myself falling miserably short but this verse tells me not to get sloppy & to press on. So that, by the grace & strength of God & His Holy Spirit, is what what I shall do. God’s blessings on each of you.

]]> By: foreverblessed http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10014 foreverblessed Tue, 29 Sep 2009 12:49:48 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10014 To add to DMG note that she is a Nazarene, Sometimes God asks special things from a christian. Do you know the story of Rees Howell? He was a minister involved in the Revival in Whales GB, a hundred years ago. During World War 2 he was called bij God with 120 people to start to pray about the deliverance of Europe from Hitler. They were told not te drink alcohol anymore during that time. And praying they were together. Their prayer did have a great impact on the D Day invasion, and the fight which followed. Just a thought about these special commitments God can ask you to do. To add to DMG note that she is a Nazarene,

Sometimes God asks special things from a christian.
Do you know the story of Rees Howell? He was a minister involved in the Revival in Whales GB, a hundred years ago.
During World War 2 he was called bij God with 120 people to start to pray about the deliverance of Europe from Hitler. They were told not te drink alcohol anymore during that time. And praying they were together.
Their prayer did have a great impact on the D Day invasion, and the fight which followed.
Just a thought about these special commitments God can ask you to do.

]]> By: SFDBWV http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10011 SFDBWV Tue, 29 Sep 2009 11:49:47 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10011 Daisy, Thank you for the information. I was errant in remembering Hebrew law and customs. The explanation that you have taken upon yourself such a weight, explains a great deal to me about you. I cannot see how it is possible for you to succede in taking such a vow, but I must believe you are doing your best to do so. For me, Daisy, being Christian means that I believe that Jesus succeded in fulfilling all the laws of the old tesiment and that He and only He was able to do so. That for me to try and copy that which Christ already accomplished, is unessesary. The Holy Spirit in me will convict me of any errant activities I may undertake, and through that same Spirit I will be able to cease from continuing it. Not through any power of my own will, but through the power of Him who is in me. I call myself Christian because I believe in and on Jesus of Nazateth to be who He said he is. I follow Him, I am not Him. I may strive to be like Him, but I can never be Him. Don't be offended Daisy. I feel bad for you. Underneath that hard exterior you present yourself with is a normal person just like all the rest of us, warts and all. Jesus can set you free of trying to be perfect, if you let Him. Daisy, Thank you for the information. I was errant in remembering Hebrew law and customs.

The explanation that you have taken upon yourself such a weight, explains a great deal to me about you.

I cannot see how it is possible for you to succede in taking such a vow, but I must believe you are doing your best to do so.

For me, Daisy, being Christian means that I believe that Jesus succeded in fulfilling all the laws of the old tesiment and that He and only He was able to do so.

That for me to try and copy that which Christ already accomplished, is unessesary.

The Holy Spirit in me will convict me of any errant activities I may undertake, and through that same Spirit I will be able to cease from continuing it. Not through any power of my own will, but through the power of Him who is in me.

I call myself Christian because I believe in and on Jesus of Nazateth to be who He said he is. I follow Him, I am not Him. I may strive to be like Him, but I can never be Him.

Don’t be offended Daisy. I feel bad for you. Underneath that hard exterior you present yourself with is a normal person just like all the rest of us, warts and all. Jesus can set you free of trying to be perfect, if you let Him.

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/09/25/how-not-to-be-holy/#comment-10003 poohpity Mon, 28 Sep 2009 20:24:20 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7009#comment-10003 I know sad isn't it and I do it too! I know sad isn’t it and I do it too!

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