How about that? Who can understand God’s way? v33-36 and here Paul realy starts to glorify God. To Him be glory forever! Amen

Whereas it is the concensus that all prophesy has been fulfilled except the event we know of as the rapture, there will be some that will disagree.

When I think of Prophesy, there are several different types. The first being the promise of a Savior. The messianic prophesies are shown in dual reference. One speaks of the birth and first comming and events leading up to and the life of Messiah. But Daniel spoke of the cutting off of the Messiah and even gave the exact date of both his birth and death. the second speaks of His return, all the events leading up to and the moment of His setting foot on earth again. Also the events of His being here again.

Then there are the prophesies concerning Israel. God’s chosen people. All future time lines for the world, are refered to in, the foretold events that surround Israel.

There are also some personal items of prophesy with individuals. As with Abraham, Isaac, Jacob. With kings or even some queens of Israel.

There is also a great deal of prophesy about the events and the world after Christs return and defeat of the enemies of God.

It is all about knowing the difference in the timelines.

Jesus was angry with the stewarts of the Torrah, because they did not understand prophesy, as they, of all people, should have.

What does it all mean to me? Firstly I know that the whole purpose of prophesy is to bring Jesus the Christ into focus. That the test of a prophet is that he must be 100% right. Many of the OT prophets died without the fullness of their prophesies being seen.

Because, of the return of Israel to her homeland in 1948, I believe the prophesy Jesus stated “Verily I say unto you, This generation shall not pass away, till all be fulfilled.” Means the end of the age is at hand.

So I look for the next big prophetic event to be the rapture of His Church.

So I live as if each hour may be my last. Prayerfuly asking for forgiveness and the salvation of all thoes I love.

Just my thoughts.
Steve

And I really do look forward that God will take Israel (all tirbes)out of all the countries they have been spread around, He will bring them back.

And that prophecy has yet to be fulfilled, and many many prophecies that associate with that return.

Now about Romans 11:25-32, v 26 sais, And so all Israel will be saved, (isn’t that promising?)

But another verse which is of importance to this topic:
v 28 As far as the gospel is concerned they are enemies on your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs, for God’s gifts and His call are irrevocable.

So between the 2 sides, enemies, and election, we are walking with the Jews. They are our enemies, but we are told to love our enemies.
Instead of going to the Jews, who do not want us, we should show that we as a Church are loving one another. The love shown among christians, whatever denominination, is the object we should aim at.

Wow! I had no idea, praise God, with all due respect this December 9th marks the 39th year that my father has been gone to be with the Lord. I must admit the longing and the pain never really go away but the interesting thing that I have learned is that losing my father at such a young age as painful as it was probably has been the best thing that has ever happened to me.

For one I believe that it has made a better man out of me, you see I still want to honor my father, and he is still my hero. Not to mention it has taught me how to have an awesome relationship with my heavenly father.

Personally I believe that the relationship a person has with his/her earthly father could potentially dictate the type of relationship a person could have with their heavenly father.

Similarly the relationship a person has with his/her earthly mother could potentially dictate how this person would view a relationship with the Holy Spirit.

Or the relationship a person has with his/her brothers and sisters could potentially dictate the type of relationship a person could have with Jesus you know the Bible says that He is a friend that is closer than a brother.

Again this is not scriptural but just some personal insight that has given me peace.

So as I begin the 40th year of my father being gone its kind of like wandering in the desert for the last 40 years, the Lord is really starting to reveal new things to me and the “promise land” that he has for me looks like its bigger than I could have ever imagined it could be, I pray that I don’t do like the stiffed neck people that never made it into the promise land being so close.

God Bless
Xavier

foreverblessed, you have said it best: “But the best already happened to us, we are redeemed by our Lord and Master Jesus, lets rejoice about that!”. Prophecy regarding Israel literally means what it says. Rom 9-11 clearly discusses that Israel rejected God by refusing the salvation which was offered to them in Jesus. Hence, God temporarily hardened their hearts with partial blindness not only to extend salvation to the Gentiles but also to provoke the Jews… so that they will eventually turn to God.

That is what helps us to know both “the kindness and severity of God” and it also gives us hope during times when we fail God by our disobedience to sin against Him. While facing trials when we refuse to believe Him for deliverance from difficulties, it is God’s faithfulness to an unbelieving Israel which assures us that He will never leave nor forsake us.

It is with that understanding, Paul was emphatic about fostering spiritual peace within the Church which is made of both Jews and Gentiles… which means neither can boast but both need to humbly accept the blessings for each other made possible only by “faith” in Christ. Hence, we can say for sure that God is not done with Israel (Rom 11: 26-27) …because of His faithful promises to her faithful forefathers, Israel will be restored to a place of national prominence… for the sake of the faithful repentant remnant.

And it is in the context of Rom 9-11, the Church is called to show spiritual solidarity to God’s chosen nation. Now, spiritual solidarity does not mean celebrating Sukkot together before God’s appointed time but then it also does not give us any reason to remain neutral or affirm the hateful spirit of the unregenerate nations to revile the Jews…

Jesus prophesied that “Jerusalem will be trampled by the Gentiles” and God will certainly execute judgment upon those godless nations for their treatment of His people and of His heritage Israel because they have divided His land.” Joel 3:1-2.

Therefore, to conclude with Paul’s thoughts on prophecy being fulfilled: “For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion…all Israel will be saved, as it is written: The Deliverer will come out of Zion, and He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; for this is My covenant with them, when I take away their sins” (Rom. 11:25-27)!

All smiles.

Steve

Huggs
frank