Comments on: The Pain of Being Misunderstood http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/ with Mart De Haan and Friends Fri, 19 Mar 2010 14:18:35 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: fluer http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10666 fluer Sat, 07 Nov 2009 18:35:33 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10666 How ironic the bones of this original posting is lived out through the numerous responses to it! In an attempt to communicate about communication..some people were offended,and misunderstood,and frankly judged.How funny in defending what a supreme goal to live out of our spirituality, our carnality is revealed. SFDBWV- I am sorry u were misunderstood. I know you have a precious and beautiful heart,all one has to do is look at and listen to your contribution to this site.U are a beautiful man of God, and I know you desire to please him. I saw myself in some of the feedback to your posts, and I think I understand. Something about what/how you said things, appears to have rubbed up against some wounds. When I have experienced this in my own life, I have responded those ways as well.I think it is not personal,although u were the recipient.Ain't being human grand?! Lol! Much love to all! How ironic the bones of this original posting is lived out through the numerous responses to it! In an attempt to communicate about communication..some people were offended,and misunderstood,and frankly judged.How funny in defending what a supreme goal to live out of our spirituality, our carnality is revealed.

SFDBWV- I am sorry u were misunderstood. I know you have a precious and beautiful heart,all one has to do is look at and listen to your contribution to this site.U are a beautiful man of God, and I know you desire to please him.

I saw myself in some of the feedback to your posts, and I think I understand. Something about what/how you said things, appears to have rubbed up against some wounds. When I have experienced this in my own life, I have responded those ways as well.I think it is not personal,although u were the recipient.Ain’t being human grand?! Lol! Much love to all!

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10659 poohpity Sat, 07 Nov 2009 13:17:50 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10659 vcar1, wonderful Godly thoughts and words. vcar1, wonderful Godly thoughts and words.

]]> By: vcar1 http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10654 vcar1 Sat, 07 Nov 2009 00:22:17 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10654 In this lifetime there will be may opportunities in which we will be misunderstood and then have the option as to whether or not to take from such acts. Sometimes God allows us to come to a place of "death to ourselves" so that He can raise us up in His power. It is tough when our earnest efforts are taken wrongly. We need to take courage in the fact that God knows our hearts and that man, in his best, has limited knowledge and therefore can intermix feelings and thoughts and wrongly judge our situation. How we handle this is so vital in our maturity and in His willingness to use us in greater dimensions. Can we display the fruit of the Spirit or will our flesh overrule us and we retailiate back with ungodly dialogue. I never cease to be amazed how quiet Jesus was when he was being accused prior to his crucifixation. My flesh screamed "how could he" as I read this numerous times. It appears we all can come to a place in God whereby we trust Him and do not feel the need to defend ourselves; that quiet assurance that He will work things our for our good. As we continue to be tested by "offense" may we rise above the carnal way and bring forth glory to those that need to see Christ in us. Valerie Caraotta In this lifetime there will be may opportunities in which we will be misunderstood and then have the option as to whether or not to take from such acts. Sometimes God allows us to come to a place of “death to ourselves” so that He can raise us up in His power. It is tough when our earnest efforts are taken wrongly. We need to take courage in the fact that God knows our hearts and that man, in his best, has limited knowledge and therefore can intermix feelings and thoughts and wrongly judge our situation. How we handle this is so vital in our maturity and in His willingness to use us in greater dimensions. Can we display the fruit of the Spirit or will our flesh overrule us and we retailiate back with ungodly dialogue. I never cease to be amazed how quiet Jesus was when he was being accused prior to his crucifixation. My flesh screamed “how could he” as I read this numerous times. It appears we all can come to a place in God whereby we trust Him and do not feel the need to defend ourselves; that quiet assurance that He will work things our for our good.
As we continue to be tested by “offense” may we rise above the carnal way and bring forth glory to those that need to see Christ in us.
Valerie Caraotta

]]> By: tkgag7 http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10629 tkgag7 Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:11:54 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10629 Someone stated, "...Isn’t it the same in your own life, seeing loved ones going the wrong way, you warn them, but they do not listen. You keep warning? When do you let go?" It's hard to see those you love going into sin but if you truly want to be a servant of the Lord you must look to the direction He gave in scripture. Isaiah was called for a specific purpose. Popularity was not a part of it; Isaiah 6. As long as God has called you to speak you speak. When He says "Enough" it's enough. We are not able to make that decision without Him. Remember when your words fall on deaf ears your prayers don't. Share the TRUTH in LOVE. Someone stated, “…Isn’t it the same in your own life, seeing loved ones going the wrong way, you warn them, but they do not listen. You keep warning? When do you let go?”
It’s hard to see those you love going into sin but if you truly want to be a servant of the Lord you must look to the direction He gave in scripture. Isaiah was called for a specific purpose. Popularity was not a part of it; Isaiah 6. As long as God has called you to speak you speak. When He says “Enough” it’s enough.
We are not able to make that decision without Him.
Remember when your words fall on deaf ears your prayers don’t. Share the TRUTH in LOVE.

]]> By: jeremiah http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10565 jeremiah Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:53:50 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10565 I disagree: I think PLENTY of people--including many Christians--do not know what it's like to "hurt" someone, even though they have. I am stunned by the lack of empathy, compassion, and sensitivity in our world, and most certainly right inside the church. That said, emotional response to interpersonal conflict (which I think is what you are on about, without having been explicit) is clearly not the answer. Communication is absolutely superfluous if one participant is beside themselves in anguish. Cooler heads will prevail. Period. I disagree: I think PLENTY of people–including many Christians–do not know what it’s like to “hurt” someone, even though they have. I am stunned by the lack of empathy, compassion, and sensitivity in our world, and most certainly right inside the church.

That said, emotional response to interpersonal conflict (which I think is what you are on about, without having been explicit) is clearly not the answer. Communication is absolutely superfluous if one participant is beside themselves in anguish. Cooler heads will prevail. Period.

]]> By: SFDBWV http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10496 SFDBWV Wed, 28 Oct 2009 13:08:10 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10496 foreverblessed, not sure I understand your question. All I was trying to say in my last post is that we have to live here physicaly, before we move on to eternal life spiritualy. I wasn't making any references to warning others of anything. Just trying to live here, while obeying the comands of Christ. Steve foreverblessed, not sure I understand your question. All I was trying to say in my last post is that we have to live here physicaly, before we move on to eternal life spiritualy.

I wasn’t making any references to warning others of anything.

Just trying to live here, while obeying the comands of Christ.

Steve

]]> By: foreverblessed http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10494 foreverblessed Wed, 28 Oct 2009 12:18:06 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10494 In finding a way of living here, how many times do you want to warn your fellow countrymen for the dangers of immoral laws? When will you conclude that this is not your battle? Isn't it the same in your own life, seeing loved ones going the wrong way, you warn them, but they do not listen. You keep warning? When do you let go? It is hard to let go. I had to learn that myself, sometimes I think my migraine is because of worrying too much about loved ones who go on a sinful path, even after serious warning on my side. But there is no other way, we have to set our eyes on Jesus, especially when people do not listen to warnings. In finding a way of living here, how many times do you want to warn your fellow countrymen for the dangers of immoral laws? When will you conclude that this is not your battle?

Isn’t it the same in your own life, seeing loved ones going the wrong way, you warn them, but they do not listen. You keep warning? When do you let go?
It is hard to let go. I had to learn that myself, sometimes I think my migraine is because of worrying too much about loved ones who go on a sinful path, even after serious warning on my side.
But there is no other way, we have to set our eyes on Jesus, especially when people do not listen to warnings.

]]> By: SFDBWV http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10454 SFDBWV Sun, 25 Oct 2009 13:09:17 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10454 It is my upmost desire not to cause anyone any anxiety nor to give the false impression that I am in disagreement. I merely am wishing to express some thoughts for consideration or discussion. I live here on earth now. My feet are planted here. I must keep my attention on where I am and what I am doing based on this understanding. I have had to learn how to get along with all types of personalities, in order to have a polite and pleasent relationship with each. In growning up from childhood and stepping out into the world, I have always had to keep focused on the work given me to do. Jesus said we cannot serve two masters, I agree. In serving Christ I take on a very difficult journey of being in the world but belonging to another. So I then am now given the task of keeping focused on the work of this world while also keeping focused and influenced by the higher spiritual ideals. The two can coexist very well, and I believe should. However when there is a clash of servitude then always the way is clear, to do what the higher realm of service requires me to do. As in lying or stealing or adultery etc. I have worked as a laborer and admisitrator my entire life here in this world. While working in this world, I have tried to both share my beliefs with co workers and people I meet. I also have tried to be faithfull in tithing and giving to charities. I have always tried to do all within my ability to present the Christ to any. But I also have had to work here in this world in order to provide for myself and more importantly my family. My mind has also had to be on the work of the care and responsibility of being here, while doing so based in Christ's teaching of how to do so. I do not feel that this makes me "carnal" in my thinking. I will not be able to be completly seperated from this world until I am either dead, raprtured or resurected. I have seen all types of religions that try and teach a person that they can reach a place of being totaly disconected from their body and their spirit bond with God in a levitated point of ecstacy. These people go to the mountain tops and chant their mantras, and in some cases take drugs to "help" them on their way. To totaly disconnect themselves from this world. This is not Christianity, nor is it found annywhere in the whole of scripture. We have to figure a way of living here, and still keep our attention on serving Christ in whatever capacity He has given us to do so, while here with our feet on the ground. Steve It is my upmost desire not to cause anyone any anxiety nor to give the false impression that I am in disagreement. I merely am wishing to express some thoughts for consideration or discussion.

I live here on earth now. My feet are planted here. I must keep my attention on where I am and what I am doing based on this understanding.

I have had to learn how to get along with all types of personalities, in order to have a polite and pleasent relationship with each.

In growning up from childhood and stepping out into the world, I have always had to keep focused on the work given me to do.

Jesus said we cannot serve two masters, I agree. In serving Christ I take on a very difficult journey of being in the world but belonging to another.

So I then am now given the task of keeping focused on the work of this world while also keeping focused and influenced by the higher spiritual ideals.

The two can coexist very well, and I believe should. However when there is a clash of servitude then always the way is clear, to do what the higher realm of service requires me to do. As in lying or stealing or adultery etc.

I have worked as a laborer and admisitrator my entire life here in this world. While working in this world, I have tried to both share my beliefs with co workers and people I meet. I also have tried to be faithfull in tithing and giving to charities. I have always tried to do all within my ability to present the Christ to any.

But I also have had to work here in this world in order to provide for myself and more importantly my family. My mind has also had to be on the work of the care and responsibility of being here, while doing so based in Christ’s teaching of how to do so.

I do not feel that this makes me “carnal” in my thinking.

I will not be able to be completly seperated from this world until I am either dead, raprtured or resurected.

I have seen all types of religions that try and teach a person that they can reach a place of being totaly disconected from their body and their spirit bond with God in a levitated point of ecstacy. These people go to the mountain tops and chant their mantras, and in some cases take drugs to “help” them on their way. To totaly disconnect themselves from this world.

This is not Christianity, nor is it found annywhere in the whole of scripture.

We have to figure a way of living here, and still keep our attention on serving Christ in whatever capacity He has given us to do so, while here with our feet on the ground.

Steve

]]> By: xrgarza http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10453 xrgarza Sat, 24 Oct 2009 15:56:43 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10453 daisymarygoldr, "When people are thinking in 2 different realms, we will surely misunderstand. If some are focused on things above while others are preoccupied with things below it is very difficult to find common ground." I couldn’t agree with you more this is why the three most important fundamental things in life are Wisdom, Knowledge, & Understanding. The carnal man is preoccupied with the things of this life and couldn’t possibly grasp the things of the heavenly realms. Very well said! Xavier daisymarygoldr,

“When people are thinking in 2 different realms, we will surely misunderstand. If some are focused on things above while others are preoccupied with things below it is very difficult to find common ground.”

I couldn’t agree with you more this is why the three most important fundamental things in life are Wisdom, Knowledge, & Understanding. The carnal man is preoccupied with the things of this life and couldn’t possibly grasp the things of the heavenly realms.

Very well said!

Xavier

]]> By: foreverblessed http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/20/the-pain-of-being-misunderstood/#comment-10452 foreverblessed Sat, 24 Oct 2009 11:51:09 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7361#comment-10452 Sometimes, many times, our own convictions stand in the way. Sometimes, many times, our own convictions stand in the way.

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