Comments on: From Jeter to Jesus http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/ with Mart De Haan and Friends Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:27:23 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10669 poohpity Sat, 07 Nov 2009 22:18:07 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10669 Amen, Rocky! Amen, Rocky!

]]> By: xrgarza http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10662 xrgarza Sat, 07 Nov 2009 15:35:19 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10662 poohpity, Praise God! I love it what a great idea. I am learning that our churches appear to have been influenced more by the Pharisees than Christ himself as a result our churches have become nothing else than spiritual orphanages. When we give birth to our biological children if we were to abandon them we could go to jail and our children would be raised by the state. However this is exactly what is going on in our churches, we lead someone to the Lord and then we abandon them, the one on one discipleship is not happening. So as a result the church is filled with a lot of Christian who are starving and desiring to know how to apply what they have learned to their lives in a real and practical way. The Apostle said, "Imitate me" we that are mature should live our lives in such a way. To be an effective parent biological or spiritual one must be more than willing to be inconvenienced Xavier poohpity,

Praise God! I love it what a great idea. I am learning that our churches appear to have been influenced more by the Pharisees than Christ himself as a result our churches have become nothing else than spiritual orphanages.

When we give birth to our biological children if we were to abandon them we could go to jail and our children would be raised by the state. However this is exactly what is going on in our churches, we lead someone to the Lord and then we abandon them, the one on one discipleship is not happening. So as a result the church is filled with a lot of Christian who are starving and desiring to know how to apply what they have learned to their lives in a real and practical way.

The Apostle said, “Imitate me” we that are mature should live our lives in such a way.

To be an effective parent biological or spiritual one must be more than willing to be inconvenienced

Xavier

]]> By: BibleDon http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10620 BibleDon Thu, 05 Nov 2009 01:22:20 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10620 Mart, You say,"... what the Teacher was saying is that, ultimately, the only thing that matters is learning from him how to approach everyone and everything in life, with his grace and coaching…" I warmly appreciate the encouragement to focus on the Lord Jesus but I would have preferred it if you had simply said the only thing that matters is learning from Him. Period. As it is, you appear to reduce Christianity to mere gracious living and right relationships with other people. What about our relationship with God? (Or lack thereof) This fits in with the pendulum swing from transcendence to immanence, from vertical to horizontal, from contrite and repentant fear of God to putting a hug on our good buddy Jesus. On a related note, since you never responded to any of my comments on your "Been Thinking About-The Shack", when are you going to reconsider your shameful promotion of a book that blasphemously belittles the person of Christ and negates His atoning work on Calvary??? Mart,
You say,”… what the Teacher was saying is that, ultimately, the only thing that matters is learning from him how to approach everyone and everything in life, with his grace and coaching…” I warmly appreciate the encouragement to focus on the Lord Jesus but I would have preferred it if you had simply said the only thing that matters is learning from Him. Period. As it is, you appear to reduce Christianity to mere gracious living and right relationships with other people. What about our relationship with God? (Or lack thereof) This fits in with the pendulum swing from transcendence to immanence, from vertical to horizontal, from contrite and repentant fear of God to putting a hug on our good buddy Jesus.
On a related note, since you never responded to any of my comments on your “Been Thinking About-The Shack”, when are you going to reconsider your shameful promotion of a book that blasphemously belittles the person of Christ and negates His atoning work on Calvary???

]]> By: poohpity http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10604 poohpity Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:04:29 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10604 Xavier, That is the odd thing there are so many that go to church yet are bible illiterate. God told me a long time ago to tell people that, "God wants you to know Him, read the bible". I whore a sandwich sign at church that said just that. Now I have magnetic signs for my car and bibles in the trunk in English and Spanish all one has to do is honk if they want one. I know it is a little odd to the world but it is the direction I was given. Xavier,
That is the odd thing there are so many that go to church yet are bible illiterate. God told me a long time ago to tell people that, “God wants you to know Him, read the bible”. I whore a sandwich sign at church that said just that. Now I have magnetic signs for my car and bibles in the trunk in English and Spanish all one has to do is honk if they want one. I know it is a little odd to the world but it is the direction I was given.

]]> By: xrgarza http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10598 xrgarza Wed, 04 Nov 2009 16:01:05 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10598 foreverblessed, "So can I now conclude that when your children moved in with you, you found the truth in the bible again?" I wouldn't say that I found the truth in the Bible again, that's almost a bit ambiguous to say. I don't know that I lost it because I don't know that I ever knew it, the truth that is. I do know that the five years prior to my children coming to live with me I had denounced all that I had learned about Christianity to be. When my Children came to live with me God showed up and I had like an Apostle Paul experience for lack of a better term to use. That’s when I began to study the scriptures and began to develop a spiritual value system that I incorporated into my daily walk. As a result since people don't normally live their lives that way it did seemed odd to them, thus criticizing me. Xavier foreverblessed,

“So can I now conclude that when your children moved in with you, you found the truth in the bible again?”

I wouldn’t say that I found the truth in the Bible again, that’s almost a bit ambiguous to say. I don’t know that I lost it because I don’t know that I ever knew it, the truth that is.

I do know that the five years prior to my children coming to live with me I had denounced all that I had learned about Christianity to be. When my Children came to live with me God showed up and I had like an Apostle Paul experience for lack of a better term to use. That’s when I began to study the scriptures and began to develop a spiritual value system that I incorporated into my daily walk.

As a result since people don’t normally live their lives that way it did seemed odd to them, thus criticizing me.

Xavier

]]> By: SFDBWV http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10573 SFDBWV Tue, 03 Nov 2009 14:14:46 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10573 I didn't want to close the book on this subject as I had some thoughts I wanted to put forth. Sports player get a lot of publicity not only about their best playing days, (everyone loves a winner) to the worst kind of news when they are caught up in ugly personal behavior that shows them in a very negitive light. They being celebrities get a lot of TV coverage and their shame is broadcast all over the world. How would any of you like to have your sin and shame publicly exposed for everyone to see? Scripture says that every secret thing will be known about each and every one of us. Makes us all about the same, doesn't it. There was a baseball player for the Pittsburg Pirates who's name is Roberto Clemente, he was killed in a plane crash while delivering emergency aid to his native Hondorus after a deadly hurrucane had devistated the country. There is a local high school coach here who's 4 year old son was dieing of heart complications. The family had ammased a lot of medical bills. So a local fellow who happened to be playing for the Phillidelphia Phillies at the time( by the name of John Kruk) organized a sports event at the local highschool, he and some of his other baseball player friends played an exhibition baskettball game against the local young men, my son Matthew was one of them. John also made a huge donation and signed autographs for donations toward the family. You just don't hear about the good things people do, in the news. I think that Roberto Clemente and John Kruk have shown the face of Christ very well. That they happened to be professional baseball players at the time was only a means by which they could. Steve I didn’t want to close the book on this subject as I had some thoughts I wanted to put forth.

Sports player get a lot of publicity not only about their best playing days, (everyone loves a winner) to the worst kind of news when they are caught up in ugly personal behavior that shows them in a very negitive light.

They being celebrities get a lot of TV coverage and their shame is broadcast all over the world.

How would any of you like to have your sin and shame publicly exposed for everyone to see?

Scripture says that every secret thing will be known about each and every one of us.

Makes us all about the same, doesn’t it.

There was a baseball player for the Pittsburg Pirates who’s name is Roberto Clemente, he was killed in a plane crash while delivering emergency aid to his native Hondorus after a deadly hurrucane had devistated the country.

There is a local high school coach here who’s 4 year old son was dieing of heart complications. The family had ammased a lot of medical bills. So a local fellow who happened to be playing for the Phillidelphia Phillies at the time( by the name of John Kruk) organized a sports event at the local highschool, he and some of his other baseball player friends played an exhibition baskettball game against the local young men, my son Matthew was one of them. John also made a huge donation and signed autographs for donations toward the family.

You just don’t hear about the good things people do, in the news.

I think that Roberto Clemente and John Kruk have shown the face of Christ very well. That they happened to be professional baseball players at the time was only a means by which they could.

Steve

]]> By: foreverblessed http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10571 foreverblessed Tue, 03 Nov 2009 09:38:46 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10571 Daisy, I am with you now. Working in His strength, and what He inspired us to do. of topic Xavier, so can I now conclude that when your children moved in with you, you found the truth in the bible again? It is very good to be told what to do by your children, they are very critical, and you can learn through them. In a way I did the same, my parents trained us in a very authoritive way, (I have forgiven them, they did what they thought was best). But I knew what it was like to be pushed around, and so I wanted it done in a more compassionate way. That took a lot of patience with my son. My parents didn't like it at all. Were criticising me for doing so. The boy should just be commanded and he had to obey. But when he was older, one time my mother did say to me: the boy has turned out all right, is was good to have been so patient with him. (boy, was that a fine remark, which healed a lot of hurt). He is now a self starter, very motivated to make something out of his life. And I know for sure, Christ will also find him, He is very near to him. Just praying for him, and my other child. They are both out of the house now, studying. That's why there is more time to blog here. Daisy, I am with you now. Working in His strength, and what He inspired us to do.
of topic Xavier, so can I now conclude that when your children moved in with you, you found the truth in the bible again?
It is very good to be told what to do by your children, they are very critical, and you can learn through them. In a way I did the same, my parents trained us in a very authoritive way, (I have forgiven them, they did what they thought was best). But I knew what it was like to be pushed around, and so I wanted it done in a more compassionate way. That took a lot of patience with my son. My parents didn’t like it at all. Were criticising me for doing so. The boy should just be commanded and he had to obey. But when he was older, one time my mother did say to me: the boy has turned out all right, is was good to have been so patient with him. (boy, was that a fine remark, which healed a lot of hurt). He is now a self starter, very motivated to make something out of his life. And I know for sure, Christ will also find him, He is very near to him. Just praying for him, and my other child. They are both out of the house now, studying. That’s why there is more time to blog here.

]]> By: pastorjtc http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10570 pastorjtc Tue, 03 Nov 2009 03:40:19 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10570 What can be the most effective bridge to gospel, I beieve, is be able to live out the simple mandate of loving God with all that we are and our neighbor as him/her self. What I liked most about this reflection it's pointing to the ability to focus on a foundational truth amidst the hub bub or chaos that sometime seem to surround us. My life verse is Matthew 6:25-33 which I paraphrase like this "Keep yourself focused on the things of God first and formost, and all that really matters will fall into place. What can be the most effective bridge to gospel, I beieve, is be able to live out the simple mandate of loving God with all that we are and our neighbor as him/her self. What I liked most about this reflection it’s pointing to the ability to focus on a foundational truth amidst the hub bub or chaos that sometime seem to surround us. My life verse is Matthew 6:25-33 which I paraphrase like this “Keep yourself focused on the things of God first and formost, and all that really matters will fall into place.

]]> By: jeremiah http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10569 jeremiah Tue, 03 Nov 2009 02:23:43 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10569 More I think about it, "From Jeter to Jesus" seems almost blasphemous. There is no comparison to speak of. We shouldn't even fathom a single one. Should we? More I think about it, “From Jeter to Jesus” seems almost blasphemous. There is no comparison to speak of. We shouldn’t even fathom a single one. Should we?

]]> By: foreverblessed http://www.beenthinking.org/2009/10/29/from-jeter-to-jesus/#comment-10564 foreverblessed Mon, 02 Nov 2009 22:49:16 +0000 http://www.beenthinking.org/?p=7431#comment-10564 So Sorry Pooh, did not mean it in a bad way, Tozer is a very very inspirational writer, I agree totally with you. But he is very sturn in warning against selling the Gospel as a cheap grace. And so he may. Paul and Luther were touched by grace, but also totally lost there lives in Jesus, or how can I say it: they were regenerated And reformed, as Tozer writes. Daisy, I have to read your comment tomorrow, is getting late now here,and thanks for your advice: when you have migraine your dayly routine must be regular, so no skipping of meals, and wake up the same time every day, (no sleepins, or sleepout as we say in our language). Good evening and good night, think of the many blessings we recieve from above. So Sorry Pooh, did not mean it in a bad way, Tozer is a very very inspirational writer, I agree totally with you. But he is very sturn in warning against selling the Gospel as a cheap grace. And so he may. Paul and Luther were touched by grace, but also totally lost there lives in Jesus, or how can I say it: they were regenerated And reformed, as Tozer writes.

Daisy, I have to read your comment tomorrow, is getting late now here,and thanks for your advice: when you have migraine your dayly routine must be regular, so no skipping of meals, and wake up the same time every day, (no sleepins, or sleepout as we say in our language).
Good evening and good night, think of the many blessings we recieve from above.

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