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God of the Waves, Stars, and Broken Jars

waveprint2Recently took this picture that reminded me of something that Job said about the God who walks on the waves. The quote I’m thinking of begins,

“God is wise in heart and mighty in strength…He alone spreads out the heavens, and treads on the waves of the sea; He made the Bear, Orion, and the Pleiades, and the chambers of the south; He does great things past finding out, yes, wonders without number. If He goes by me, I do not see Him; If He moves past, I do not perceive Him; If He takes away, who can hinder Him? Who can say to Him, ‘What are You doing?'” (Job 9:4-12).

Have been wondering whether any of the Jewish contemporaries of Jesus  saw a link between Job’s comment about God “treading on the waves” and the words of the first disciples who reported,

steppingonshore“Now in the fourth watch of the night Jesus went to them, walking on the sea. And when the disciples saw Him walking on the sea, they were troubled, saying, “It is a ghost!” And they cried out for fear.But immediately Jesus spoke to them, saying, “Be of good cheer! It is I; do not be afraid” (Matt 14:25-27).

On another occasion, Jesus said to his disciples, “Do not think that I came to destroy the Law or the Prophets. I did not come to destroy but to fulfill” (Matt 5:17). With these words Jesus claimed a relationship with the Jewish prophets and law of Moses that enabled his followers to identify him not only as the long awaited Messiah, but as Immanuel meaning God with us. I remain convinced that one of the most compelling reasons for believing in Jesus is that, as the Creator, Savior God with us, he personifies and fulfills all “redemptive” word pictures in Scripture, and all that is good in nature.

For example just as he fulfills and personifies our Creator, and just as he gives a face and ultimate meaning to the deliverer of the Exodus, the Judges, Kings, Prophets, Priests, Temple, and Sacrifice, of the Old Testament, so he is also the ultimate personification of light, life, way, living water, bread, door, star, etc. As our Creator (John 1:1-3), all Creation finds ultimate meaning and fulfillment in him.

Even the creation that groans for now under the weight of our sin finds ultimate fulfillment in the One who groaned during his execution to redeem all who would trust him… and even the very creation itself (Romans 8:22-23).

carbreakinOn this basis I occasionally play a game in my own mind trying to see how everyone and everything– in someway points to Christ. A mountain, a tree, a rock, the stars in the sky, a child, a man, a woman, an old man and woman, a telephone pole, a book. Yes, I know it can sound obsessive. But what could be more meaningful that seeing everything in our world and lives as being, in some way, a small glimmer or reflection of the God, Father, Friend, Stranger, and Savior we call Jesus.

Note: Dean O. of Wonder of Creation has been showing me how to post pictures so that if you run cursor over pics you can click to enlarge them.  Last picture is of broken glass after our car was recently broken into.

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45 Responses to “God of the Waves, Stars, and Broken Jars”

  1. gr8grannyjacobs says:

    I need to reflect on the post but want to say the pictures are beautiful enlarged.:)

  2. BruceC says:


    I don’t think you’re being obsessive at all. We are told to think on Him all the time and to do all for the glory of God. All things were made by Him and for Him. Society shows what happens when the opposite is done. Everything in existence belongs to Him and is only on “loan” to us. The great composer Bach signed all his musical compositions “Soli Deo Gloria” meaning “To God Alone Be The Glory” because he rightly believed that all music was to glorify God. He viewed his skill as a gift from God and for God. Many other classical composers felt that way also. Sin begins when we do things or view things as for our glory. The unbelieving look at things as if it all is about them and for them.

  3. pegramsdell says:

    How great God is, how small I am…..
    When I am at the beach (my favorite place in the whole wide world) I am in awe of my God. The sky, the clouds, the sand, the waves. Amazing!
    I wonder if there will be a beach in Heaven? …lol
    Mart, I really like the pictures…enlarging is cool too.

  4. SFDBWV says:

    Hebrews 10:7 “Then said I, Lo, I come( in the volume of the book it is written of me,) to do thy will, O God.”
    :24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works.
    :25 Not forsaking the assembling of ourselves together, as the manner of some is; but exhorting one another: and so much the more, as ye see the day approaching.”

    Bruce, you are so very correct. Our best musicians always gave God the glory, as it were with our best artists, and poets. Because God inspired them.

    How can we, in whom God has chosen to reside, fail to see Him every where?

    I certainly see Him on every page of scripture. So why wouldn’t I see him on every page of life?

    Even here, among each other, He can be seen.

  5. narrowminded says:

    How very different our faiths can be.
    I find Jesus in the temple of my Heart. The above mentioned wonders are a distraction to me.
    Jesus taught me long ago that if I don’t seek to find Him in His works, He won’t seek me in mine. The “do unto others” thing.
    True intimacy can never be found in externally.
    Our works do not define who we are. They teach others almost nothing about the persons we are. None of us would like being defined or judged or “looked” for, at or in, our work.
    The man Picasso isn’t in his paintings, we learn nothing of Bach as a person from his music.
    If we sincerly desire to “know” Him or anyone we must seek them where they are to be found.
    Jesus resides in the temple of the new covenant, the Hearts of his Disciples. If not in the Heart then at the door knocking.
    “In reality, there is a difference between being a child of God, and a “disciple of Jesus,” even though, in theory, there should not be a difference.”(What is a real Christian? 02-05-09)
    Sad but true.
    I don’t remember Jesus ever telling us to seek Him, The Father or the Spirit in His creation.
    I thank God for the world we live and I believe the purpose of everything is to draw His children to Him but He is to be found inside us.
    At the Fall God gave this world to the enemy, Jesus came to re-establish His Kingdom. As His followers we now have dominion over creation. A proper perspective on our position in this world is critical lest we turn creation into an idol.
    I pray all disciples come to find that the things of this world grow strangely dim, washed over by the Glory of His Person.
    Carry on.

  6. gr8grannyjacobs says:

    If wanting to see God in everyone and everything and in all situations is obsessive then I am obsessed.For me I do try to delight in our Lord in everything he puts in my life or draws to my attention.The red Cardinal that comes each spring to our home all the children and grand and gr8grand. I always found it easy to see God and look for Him in the beauty of creation and in the joy and happiness in my life and others and see how everything relates to Christ.In all honesty though my deepest experiences with God and seeing Him in situations in my life have been in times of sorrow. The test for me was being able to have that same delight in my dark and painful times .As I look back it has been through the painful times that seeing God and knowing He was with me in all of it has been my greatest comfort. Everything in creation for me points to Christ the joy the pain and even a telephone pole.

    narrowminded Isn’t God in everything even a persons sin? Many testify that it was their conviction of sin that pointed them to Christ. Just a thought.

  7. SFDBWV says:

    narrowminded, Please dear fellow believer, do not be offended by our differences. But differences we have.
    let me begin by Bible quotes;

    EX 3:1Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the Priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert,and came to the “mountain of God,”,even to Horeb
    :2And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a “flame of fire out of a midst of a bush” and he looked and behold, the bush burned with fire,and the busdh was not consumed.

    ISA 44:23 Sing O ye heavens; For the Lord hath done it: shout, ye lower parts of the earth:break forth into singing, ye mountains, O forest and every tree therein: for the Lord hath redeemed Jacob and glorified Himself in Israel.

    Ps 103:5 Who satisfieth thy mouth with good things; so that thy youth is renewed like the eagles.

    Proverbs 6:6 Go to the ant, thou sluggard; consider her ways, and be wise.

    Matthew 10:29 Are not two sparrows sold for a farthing? and one of them shall not fall on the ground without your Father.

    Matthew 6:28And why take ye thought for raiment? Consider the lilies of the field, how they grow; they toil not, neither do they spin
    :29 And yet I say unto you,That even Solomon in all his glory was not arrayed like one of these.

    I can go on and on. To demonstrate that God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit used and uses mountains, trees, and animals to illustrate Himself to us.

    If you can’t find God on His mountain, look again, if not reminded of His Word when you see eagles soaring, look again.

    Lots of religions teach about do unto others. But there is only one true way to God. The gateway of Jesus the Christ. He can be found where ever you look for Him.

    To say that our works do not define who we are and that artists are not seen nor found in their art. Is a statement I could not disagree with more.

    Jesus came as a fulfillment of Gods promise to redeem man. His Kindom is not of this world as he told Pilate.

    Keep reading the Word, He is certainly found there.

  8. rokdude5 says:

    The first time I went to a Promise Keeper event with nearly 100,000 men praising God, I thought to myself, “I think Im witnessing a small sliver of Heaven right here on Earth!”

    I wish I was as “obsessive” as you Mart for I tend to get wrapped up in daily living forgetting that everything around me is was made by God Himself. I also think that all those things are a testement how wonderful and majestic our Lord and Savior is. The trick for me is, am I in my daily living of life, pointing and reflecting how Great and Loving our God is?

  9. poohpity says:

    If not all the things that God created give Glory to His artistry, then who shall be given the glory? If man internally is defined not by his works but by who he says he is then who is man? If God can not be seen in all that He created then how do we find Him? God is!!!! There is nothing that exists that was not formed by His words. If that does not let me see a glimpse of who God is and I have to base who He is on what is inside of me or other believers than I will see a poor reflection of who He is.

  10. mtman says:

    Good comments all: I have maybe a different slant on things. I love our dogs but I do not worship them or put them above my Lord or my wife or other people. When we have visits from wild animals they remind me of how God created every creature differently. I don’t want to be only identified by my works either but when others see what I do and notice that I am a Christian, maybe they will want to know or learn more. In Mk 16:15 our Lord says “Go into the world and preach the gospel to every creature”. I have pondered the word creature long and hard and so if I choose to read my morning bible study to our dogs (who seem to enjoy it) I do not see the harm. Actually we are given dominion over all Gods creation in Gen. 1:28. Then God blessed them, and God said to them, “Be fruitful and multiply; fill the earth and subdue it; have dominion over the fish of the sea, the birds of the air, and over every living thing that moves on the earth.”
    I really do see the Lord in natures creation, and just about every thing I come across. Maybe I take Mk to literally but when we are visited by creatures of all sorts – I tell them about a man who came from God and died for my sins and theirs. When a totally wild animal or our dogs sit and listen to me with great attention I don’t know if they understand or not but somehow I hope they do. I don’t idolize them at all but I love them all. They are wonders from God and I learn from their simple lives how to un-complicate mine. I’m sure no one who reads this has ever been close to a bear in the wild and looked into their small eyes where you could tell they were either amused by you or listening to you as you told them about the gospel. They sit/stand there either calmed by my voice or ‘maybe’ by what I’m saying. God knows and that is all that really matters to me. I’m sure some would say I’m a total nut but when you have looked into the eyes of a wild animal that could easily destroy you and they remain calm and you see there is some understanding there it is beyond me. When I am at the beach and look out on the magesty of the ocean and all that is in it, I just can’t help but marvel at all God has done. Especially when I stop to think that I am like a single grain of sand on the beach in this world and God knows me personally and intimately. Blows my mind. Puts things in perspective for me. I’m glad that we are all different and God can speak to each of us in our differences….Loving God’s creation doesn’t mean I idolize it at all.

  11. poohpity says:

    I do not believe that all of God’s creation needs to know about salvation that is only for human beings. I have seen many animals in the wild but that does not give them any authority other than being an animal with no reasoning abilities they are animals. I do however see the majesty of their Creators marvelous genius is even making them. I do find in life that some would rather be with animals rather than humans because of the magnitude of pain that we inflict upon each other and that I understand as many do. The most intricate being is the human and only they are in need of a savior the animals to do not realize or behave in any way other than what they were intended to be.

  12. drkennyg says:

    Although I know I am not of the world , the fact is for now I am still in the world. As such I can indeed see God’s astounding creation all around. Since being born again I have seen the world differently for certain and my own work as dedicated to Him who has given me life.

    Just the other day being reminded of my dominion over the animals when I saw 2 bees struggling in the swimming pool trying to fly off. When they got to the edge I reached in and scooped them onto the skirt and watched. They very slowly began to recover. At first they could not fly but after a while and repeated efforts were able to wipe off all water on their wings with a neat trick of their bodies. Sliding their wings down their sides after and repeated attempts they each flew off! It’s sorta springtime in Los Angeles so we have many blossoms and flowers growing – hence the bees presence. As a kid I would probably have tried to burn ’em up with a magnifying glass focusing the sun on ’em. That was then and this is now.

  13. sitsathisfeet says:

    It’s interesting how we sometimes try to limit God. We say he created us and everything exists because of him, even things we do not know, and yet we say he is in us, that is the most important thing, or he is around us in nature and animals and that confirms his exsistence to us. I agree that God is… He is I am, the becoming one, he was, he is and will be. He can make a donkey speak, (Balaam and the donkey), the stones cry out, (Matthew) and all creation groans under the labouring and longing to be made perfect in time. I agree salvation is for man, but all creation will be made perfect through God, the lion will lay with the lamb. (Rev) There’s a lot I don’t understand or know, but God does, and when my little asks do ants have hearts? I tell him God knows!

  14. wretch-like-me says:

    thanks, narrowminded, for a little ‘spice’ this morning. I always enjoy this site more when there is controversy and differences of opinion. Nothing seems to get us to respond more than an opposing perspective.

    Now, my two cents.

    I, personally, do see the artist in his work. Is it not easy to identify the brush strokes of a Van Gogh over a Monet, LaTrec. Picasso certainly stands out from a DaVinci. The same is true for the waltzes of Brahms, the thrilling keyboards of a Mozart, or the heavy hands of a ‘deafening’ Beethoven.

    Scripture tells us to ‘judge a tree by its fruit’ and in the same way a ‘christian’. While I agree that the world is the domain of Satan. The sin of Adam brought us the chaos of weeds over the harmony of the garden at Eden.

    Dear Friend, perhaps intimacy with God begins with a willing heart seeking truth. God promises that if we seek Him, we will find Him; He will show Himself to us. That can happen anywhere at the Will of God.

    As an infant I had a very shallow view of the world around me. As I grew and experienced more of the world, I realized there was a lot more out there I had yet to experience. I have yet to experience all there is.

    Is it not so with our relationship with God?

    Final thought: There is an excellent illustration in the story of five blind men experiencing an elephant for the first time. Each touches a different part of the elephant and relates that experience to a previous experience they can remember…ie. legs like tree trunks, tail like a rope, snout like a snake etc.
    Could our perception of God be based upon how we relate to Him… not necessarily how God is in reality. That is why we have to go back to the Word for clear instruction and definitive proof of Who God/Jesus/Holy Spirit is!!!

  15. mtman says:

    Mtman says that I agree that animals don’t have reasoning power or authority over us. While I would not recommend it to others to have any contact with wild animals because of where we live we do. We can tell when they are anxious, curious ect. I don’t know what they understand and what they don’t but when they look at me intently as I talk to them about the gospel, world events, how pretty they are, they sure do seem interested. I can see God’s work in them and what they see I don’t know. Not a food source I hope. We don’t have a lot of encounters but we have had several. Someday all will be answered for me but right now it is really pretty neat to just have them not afraid of me. Pretty cool me thinks..

  16. daisymarygoldr says:

    Great post and good comments! Job saw the One who “treads on the waves of the sea”, repented of His sins and believed. The disciples saw the One walking on the sea and were afraid. When assured that it is the Lord, they did not believe but wanted to test the truth and tried to walk on water like Him. Their eyes were fixed on the boisterous waves and did not scan beyond it…to the one who created the waves. They started to sink and as the Lord stretched out His hand to save He had to chide them- “O you of little faith, why did you doubt?’

    Therefore, the waves and the stars are for the atheist who has no excuse… because the wonders of creation are a living testimony of the glory of the living God. God uses signs of nature to teach:
    -the unbelieving and doubtful
    -the fool who has said in his heart that there is no God,
    -the fearful… of little faith,
    -the immature, who keep worrying about what to eat and wear
    -the sluggard who does not want to read the word… I have friends who are illiterates and have lived all their lives in deep jungles…surrounded by God’s beautiful creation but had never known the true God. Today, they read and follow the word of God
    -the arrogant who is wise in his own eyes and dares question the sovereignty of the Creator…

    Whereas, for those of us who have already “known” Him by faith, we do not have to see in order to believe. Our faith comes by the hearing or reading and doing of His word alone! “We look not at the things which are seen, but at the things which are not seen: for . . . the things which are not seen are eternal” (II Cori 4:18).
    Wretch-like-me, “The Blindmen and the Elephant” by John Godfrey Saxe, was based on an anonymous Indian parable. It was one of my favorite poems which I had memorized and recited w-a-a-y back in the 4th grade. Surprisingly, after all those years, every word and verse is still a part of my memory and yes, it always-always reminds me of us…

  17. daisymarygoldr says:

    “I occasionally play a game in my own mind …I know it can sound obsessive.” No, you don’t sound obsessive; you sound so-o-o babyish! – With all due respect and love of Christ and the biggest smile I can ever sport:):):)Children belonging to the same Father can be different and also relate to him differently. For, the little ones the excitement is in gifts which the father bestows— the waves, the stars and the broken (is it jar or car?). For, the older ones, the gifts are good but as far as they are concerned, only one thing is necessary. Their delight is in the father and they have chosen the good part which shall never be taken away from them!

    Growing up with baby brothers and sisters can be both a pleasure and a pain. The pleasure is to see them go gaga over the toys and oh, how they look so-o-o cute and adorable! The mature ones draw closer to lean on to their father’s bosom or sit fixated at his feet, to hear everything he has to say about himself. The babies remain engrossed with their games but soon get listless or bored and look for other things to keep them busy and occupied. Sometimes in the playing process they might also get hurt by the very toy that made them happy. This is when the pain begins…with all the W-a-a-a! W-a-a-a! W-a-a-a! In their ignorance they might blame their older siblings (a.k.a superior Christians) or even the father… for hurting them.

    As the mature big sister, this is where my loving patience gets tested. Having a far better “knowledge” of my father, my first response is to try and comfort or console my baby siblings and if the “music” persists my humanness simply yells at them to stop it…and grow up! Love is patient…how can I forget the lesson we learned just in the previous blog? Thank you dear babies, for your kind patience towards me! Obviously, big sisters are also growing and learning to eventually be “molded” into the full stature of Christ. On the whole, what matters most is that whether we are babies or big brothers and sisters… God our father loves us all!

  18. narrowminded says:

    Please forgive my words if they disrupted the peace.
    Rest assured nothing exchanged here can harm me and I hope everyone knows that I mean no harm.
    My spiritual experience seems to be difficult for others to understand.
    My perspectives are not the norm.
    In the future I’ll be careful with anyn posts.
    Thank you.

  19. can48teach says:

    I love your pictures.
    I am an amature photographer ( mostly nature ,but many of China as well.I have been a teacher here for five years.It’s great when I am blessed with guiding someone to JESUS.)As well I write poetry,especially after doing my morning readings ( our daily bread,your articals and another daily morning reading something like our daily bread.
    Here’s where I would like some help.I would like to combine my pictures with my poetry and try to publish them on line
    1 how do you combine the pictures with your poetry
    2 where is a good site I can try to sell these works of art.In these tough times I think people would really enjoy these and I can earn some money as well.The pay isn’t great here in China ,but the opportunity to serve JESUS is first in my heart
    Thank you

  20. SFDBWV says:

    Daisy, I do not wish to have bad feelings concerning you. I really don’t. I want to try and understand you and give to you the freedom to be yourself without criticism from me.Wether it be privately or here on Mart”s Blog.

    So as I have read your comments I have to ask you, do you really consider yourself to have a far better knowledge of our Father? Do you actualy consider yourself a superior Christian? Are you saying that any of us who are not on a level with you are babies? And finaly do you consider any of us that find joy in seeing God in His creation, ignorant and naive?

    Daisy, have I misunderstod your comments? Don’t you know that saying these things are insulting and degrading to the rest of us? Or don’t you care?

    Daisy I am realy trying to offer you my hand in friendship. And it is in that attitude that I say, you seem to have missed humility in your walk with God. And you don’t seem to show love in your words. Only bitterness.

    Help me to understand you better. How can I help you Daisy?


  21. poohpity says:

    Please feel free to express yourself on this site without hiding in anonymity. Just as you have your opinions so do others and I for one express myself. We just talk about things we have been thinking about and I for one enjoy reading others thoughts, I do not have to agree but that to is OK.

    At the time of Job the law had not been given yet so he had no idea what sin was but He did however know who God was and understood He could not question Him in anyway. As you stated above that Job repented and believed. You also stated, “The disciples saw the One walking on the sea and were afraid. When assured that it is the Lord, they did not believe but wanted to test the truth and tried to walk on water like Him. Their eyes were fixed on the boisterous waves and did not scan beyond it…to the one who created the waves. They started to sink and as the Lord stretched out His hand to save He had to chide them- “O you of little faith, why did you doubt?’. Only one disciple tried to walk on the water and that was Peter but when he took his eyes off the Lord he began to sink. So there may be times that the older sister can learn from the babies. It is always interesting to read your perspectives keep on posting.

  22. bubbles143jc says:

    Mart, wonderful to know I am not alone. God says, “let every thing that has breath praise His name”. To me that means everything that God created that has breath, upon death goes right up to heaven because they do not have sin. The things He created that do not have breath are just copies of what He already has. I find that the secret is not to see so grown up, to see as a child to enjoy and truly appreciate His wonder.

    What I love about this site is that when I do want to share, Mart doesn’t judge me. So Mart, when we get to heaven what will you ask God? I am going to ask Him about the Ant! Man are they strong….. God bless to all. :)

  23. gr8grannyjacobs says:

    narrowminded .

    I can only speak for myself but others might agree with me. I am not saying I worship the forests animals or the telephone poles. I am saying if my heart is receptive to see God in all things He allows me to do so and I find myself doing that often. It is often when I have been seeking a deeper understanding of God that He will use a animal a child or something as plain as a telephone pole to reveal a part of Himself to me. It is God I worship but I am so thankful for all the ways He points me to His Son. We learn from each other here so please stay with us and carry on.

  24. daisymarygoldr says:

    Steve, I really appreciate you talking to me. This is the beauty of the body of Christ where we judge, exhort and correct each other. Unless someone tells me my faults, there is no way I will ever be able to figure out where I went wrong. Only when you said it, I realized that my words reflected bitterness instead of the love that I have for each one of you. Steve, believe me I really do have the purest love of Christ for you and everybody else who find joy in seeing God in His creation. I am really very sorry, if my words were insulting and degrading.

    Regarding your questions: Knowledge— If it is worldly knowledge, I can effortlessly talk on Mart’s blog for the rest of my life about every living creature (Macro and Micro) that exists on planet Earth. If I wanted to, I can easily impart the vast wealth of knowledge packed within my little head…regarding their habitat, behavior, anatomy, physiology, biochemistry, genetics and molecular make-up. I can also show off my artistic bent of mind for prose, poetry and art. I choose not to… because I count all of this temporal knowledge of mine as trash when compared to the most excellent eternal knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord. Besides, it is considered carnal for followers of Christ to be earthly-minded and flaunt their worldly knowledge within the Body of Christ.

    If we are talking about spiritual knowledge, I will never claim to know anything which God the father has not revealed to all of us in Jesus Christ. In Col 1, Paul refers to it as the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the saints. Hence, there no need for me to seek Him in creation, telephone pole, rock or ant. “Superior” is not part of my vocabulary, and I don’t even want to go there any more.
    Steve, you and the others here have asked me before to talk about my pain. In reply, I simply said: God’s sorrow is my sorrow. The conversation ended every time I said that.

    Therefore, it is my assumption that none of you understands me. Yes, you have all said you enjoyed my posts and find it interesting but I don’t know if you can relate to or even sense that spiritual pain. Steve, you have offered help and I really need it now more than ever. Please, teach me… to communicate with humility and love the bitterness of that pain to others in the body. I am willing to learn, from you or anyone else out there, because, I really do care. If you say you cannot then none of you will ever understand me and yes, I will also understand that you are still babies…I say this with the deepest respect and love I have for you my fellow believers in Christ. Steve, Thank you so much for your hand of friendship. It is a blessing to have a friend like you!
    poohpity, you are in my daily prayers and I love you very much in the Lord…

  25. sjd says:

    Hopefully I am not overreacting to comments made here as I am fairly new to these discussions on line. I hope that in the days ahead I learn more about each of you and where you are coming from. It is encouraging to me to hear of your love for Christ and look forward to where we are going!

    I love good discussions coming from varying points. The variety of viewpoints is stretching. Stretching can become very painful and divisive if not done in love. I sense love for Christ from all of you, but having just read through the different comments today I have some concerns. It is interesting we just considered love last time. The “love chapter”, I Corinthians 13, is sandwiched between chapters that are dealing with problems within the body at Corinth, and the lack of looking toward building up one another, especially in light of the misuse of gifts. It is an interesting placement of the chapter, don’t you think?

    I look back to Ephesians 4 and the priority of preserving unity that is already there in Christ:
    Amplified: “Be eager and strive earnestly to guard and keep the harmony and oneness of [and produced by] the Spirit in the binding power of peace.” I pray that we do not lose what we have here. That means to me that no one will stop commenting and that we will all enjoy the unity we have. It will take diligence according to Paul.

    Try to look back at each other’s comments and do not look at the negativity, or error, or immaturity that you might believe is there, and try looking at what God might have there for you to learn, maybe an aspect that you are missing in your view of God and His grace, His majesty, His Holiness, His Power, His omniscience, His omnipresence, His justice, His mercy, His creativity, His faithfulness, His truthfulness, His compassion, His love, His patience, His Providence, His Sovereignty, His Wisdom, His Righteousness, His Eternality, His Unity, His Immutability, His glory, His Fatherhood, His………………… He is the I AM. I believe there is more to Him than I will ever be able to know, but you all have been helping me, as you make yourselves available to God as you consider Him and His Word.

    May God continue to use each of you to help keep pointing me and each other to The Lord of Creation, the One that walked on water, the One that calmed the Sea, the One that multiplied the fish to eat and the fish to catch, the One that healed the blind, the One that raised the dead, ……………..but more importantly, the One that by His stripes you and I were healed, the One that was broken for you and me, whose precious blood was shed for you and me so that we together can be partakers of the Divine nature, be part of His inheritance, be citizens of Heaven, indwelt by God Himself,…………..and so that one day we will see Him.

    Hope to see your words tomorrow, and the next day, Lord willing.

    dmg just saw your post before putting this up. I too, would love to understand you more. Thankful that you are part of the body.

  26. Romans838 says:

    it takes the Love of God in a persons heart to see God in everything… In nature, in the ocean, by the seashore, or even in a broken glass…

    in seeing God in everything gives us a heart to be thankful all the time. Imagine driving your car down the road and you thank God for the knowledge he had given to man for this benefit in life… you see a vulture and after thinking my God this bird is ugly you still remember God made if for a purpose and thank him for it… seeing the hand of our father even in the events of life will will help us cultivate a thankful spirit…

    In Heaven this is the picture in the book of Rev. 4…

    Revelation 4:11 (King James Version)

    11Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honour and power: for thou hast created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created.

  27. Romans838 says:

    Pls everyone I hope this joke will warm your hearts today…

    The Athiest in the Woods

    An atheist was walking through the woods, thinking to himself,

    “How beautiful the animals are!”
    “How majestic the trees are!”
    “How powerful the rivers are!”

    As he walked along the river, he heard rustling in the bushes behind him. He turned and saw an 8-foot grizzly bear charging towards him. He ran along the path as fast as he could, but when he looked over his shoulder, he saw that the bear was closing in on him.

    He kept running, but when he looked over his shoulder again, and the bear was even closer. Then he tripped and fell on the ground. The bear was right on top of him with his right paw raised to strike him. At that instant, the atheist cried, “God help me!”

    Time Stopped.
    The bear froze.
    The forest was silent.

    A bright light shone upon the man and a voice from the sky said, “You’ve denied my existence for all these years and have taught others that I don’t exist. You’ve even credited creation to a cosmic accident. Why would you expect me to help you out of this predicament? Are you now a believer?”
    The atheist looked into the light and said, “Well, I would be hypocrite to suddenly ask You to treat me as a Christian now, but could you, maybe, make the BEAR a Christian?”

    “Very Well,” said the voice.
    The light went out.
    The sounds of the forest resumed.

    The bear lowered his right paw and brought both paws together. He bowed his head, and said: “Lord, bless this food which I am about to receive from Your bounty through Christ our Lord, Amen.”

  28. Jen Pua says:

    When situations and circumstances in life become difficult,I am reminded again of God’s manificient creation and majestic work. I am in awe when I look at His creation and feel that the problems I face are miniscule and He will lead me through. He is sufficient for me – the God who created heaven and earth will see me through.

  29. SFDBWV says:

    Daisy, The daisy I heard from in your last comments is the daisy I like and enjoy hearing from and yes learning from. Open and tender considerate and thoughtful. Thank you for your willingness to help me “fix” our misunderstandings. This is Christ like love in action.

    As for the many people who have commented about seeing God in nature. Daisy, nobody was speaking of worshiping nature. Most warned of the danger and seperated worship from wonder. By watching a mother bird sacrifice itself to save it’s chicks we can see the signature of the creator. Not looking for the creator as a means of proof, but rather being able to see him everywhere with spiritual eyes. Being able to worship Him while He comforts us in His beauty. This is a joy to many of us. Only Satan wants to rob us of our joy. Especialy our joy of worshiping God.

    Over on Wonder of Creation, we spoke of the Cathedral of nature. What man could ever build a church building in which to worship God, better than God Himelf? we simply see the natural surounding and beauty of nature as a place to appreciate and worship God. For some of us it is our private closet where we go to be alone with God.

    When I commented about nature at the outset, I warned of not becoming as the worshipers of Pan. As also did Dean over on Wonders of Creation. If I thought anyone confused worship with appreciation, I too would correct their thinking. In a gentle and loving way.

    I have had to learn a lot of lessons in my life, Daisy. Probably the most difficult was to not shout at nor get angry with anyone with my words or actions. That kind of behavior only breeds more anger. Nowhere is that seen more for me than right here in my own home. No matter how upset and angry Matt gets sometimes, all I can answer back to hinm is that I love him and defuse his anger. I have had to learn to understand why he is angry, and either help him through it or just let him vent.

    Daisy by sharing your pain you are able to release it. By keeping it in it has a destructive hold on you. I am not asking you to tell us your secrete shame nor pain. If you simply say Christ’s suffering is your suffering, I can understand that in part. He suffers at seeing the unsaved, and cruel behavior between man. God and I also seem to hate the same things. And hatred is also a suffering.

    Daisy I am running out of time. Let me close this post by saying that we all have much to teach and share with each other. That when we speak with each other we need to show respect, consideration, tenderness and love in all we say. So as not to offend but encourage and strengthen each of us in our walk with God. I know you have much to share. I am glad we are friends.


  30. Helmet says:

    Daisy, I know a woman who is in need most of time, but she says or thinks she can alone, if I say ‘oh, I have a recipe to make lief plants to shine’ she say, there’s no use tome, mine are shining all the time ’cause I know ow to care of them’…

    I LOVE YOU, BECAUSE YOU SAID ‘STEVE TEACH ME’, because if someone say ‘oh daisy you’re making bad’ and just nod the head, you can be sure his leaves don’t shine! je je! but, steve had lived in God’s hand, know the pain and knows how to trust, only who had done in God’s hand can tell you how and be tender with others, thats why he lives for, that’s Gods will for him.
    May God bless you an ease your pain, but accomplish His plan in you through.
    kiss 4 you!

  31. Helmet says:

    May we all be broken jars in God’s hand.

    Last sunday we heard about God’s justice, how sin can’t be in His presence, how sin is death, so, for this week we been told to meditate in how is that we remain alive although our sin, yes we know is because His love and mercy, but we have to meditate what we really are and deserve, to be glad and serve in sincerity. He 12:28

    I think, this is why jews in Jesus time, did not being able to really see him walkink or water, or making wine out of water, or what rebuilding the temple he mean about, … or even now, who he is for people that says He’s not God Himself, …or even me when I’m fatuous, thinking I can and also that ‘I am’. Since I received Christ in my heart 22 years ago, I’m more and more His debtor.

    Mart, I would like to share with all my thoughts, that if we were dead, know we reeeeeally live for His mercy, but not to know it just by words, I would like to show how even this is missunderstood by me and most of us, because I’m sure, we will understand it the day we see Him face to face, maybe our lips would be necessarily burned to be pure to talk at Him… but he came to us, knocked the door instead getting in, He, the owner asked me to open.

    Pooh, ‘steel’ love you, and pray 4 you and your mom.
    Steve, how Matt did in MRI? what dr. said?

  32. cherielyn says:

    I’ll start by apologizing for being off topic, but a thought/question stuck me when reading today’s ODB “Perhaps Today”(Tues, 2/17/09). Since there isn’t a blog there, I hope no one minds my asking here.

    It seems every time I read a Bible passage, though I may have read it many times before, I get something new from it that I hadn’t previously. That’s what happened this morning.

    Which came first, the chicken or the egg? That’s not really my question, but the answer to my question is circular, just as the chicken & egg is.

    Matthew 24:36 “But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only.” – speaking of when the Lord will return.

    Since Jesus IS God and God knows everything, how could He not know when He would return? “Only the Father knows” – but He IS the Father, also!

    Don’t get me wrong. I believe with all my heart. I’ve been a Christian for 53 years, accepting Christ when I was 9 years old. Having read this passage many times, over the years, this is the first time that it has struck me this way.

    Can someone enlighten me? It’s not so much for my personal knowledge, as I (we) cannot understand God’s ways and I accept that, but it would be nice to have an answer to give if someone ever crosses my path who might present me with this question.

    Thanks for any help and, again, I apologize for being off topic.

  33. mtman says:

    I’m still new to this site with only a few postings. I must tell you all that I am greatly blessed, and impressed, by what you write whether I understand it fully or agree with it completely. What I see from all these wonderful contributions are people at different stages of their walk with Jesus. Coming from different life experiences and different Christian experiences all with something very valuable to share.
    I live in an environment far different from what most folks could relate to. That is why I can say that I learn from the birds, bugs, wild animals, and such and our pets. We have access to them far more than any human contact. We now have more time to reflect which we didn’t have before we retired. We see things every day that point us to God’s goodness. Our remote lifestyle may not be for everyone but it is just right for us. I would encourage everyone to contribute to this blog as you may not think your comments have value but they really do. They do to me for sure. These contributors all point me to the fact that God is working through you and this site. Thank you for your comments and now I must go and feed our wood stove, as that is our main source of heat.

  34. narrowminded says:

    People ususlly get what they want.
    God gives us the right to make our own faith.
    We tend to pick and choose what stirs our emotions and assuages our guilt.
    IMHO the”church” has failed to “make disciples.”
    Evangelism has focused on getting people saved and into the Kingdom not Discipleship.
    Finding God in the external will never lead to transformation. Finding God anywhere other than His temple is spiritually superficial by definition.
    Is Gods hand visible in His works? Of course,but should we be satisfied with the the “glimmers of God” we find in our environment? Or should we desire far more?
    I choose more.
    I choose to have the fullness of Christ manifested in my body, now. Not tomorrow or next week, not when I die and am Glorified, NOW! My life depends upon it, the lives of those I love depend upon it. He has promised it.
    Knowing ABOUT Jesus does me know good, I must know HIM. His works can only tell us ABOUT Him not give us life changing Heart knowledge OF Him.
    I don’t want to find God in a tree or a sunset or the sand on a beach, I want to meet Him in my Heart. I don’t want to find my sons in the chores they do or my wife in the laundry, I want to know thier hearts.
    Can I “learn” about Jesus through His Creation, yes, but “learning” about Him doesn’t make me more like Him.
    He must work in me.
    It wasn’t until He placed me in circumstances that forced me to look inward did I truly find Him. Not evidences of His works or presence but Himself.
    Once we encounter the Living God in pain and solitude, in the darkness of our closet in the depths of our soul we can never be satisfied with less.
    This is not a criticism or comparison with anyone elses life or testimony.
    My hope is that it will be an encouragement to seek the Lord not in the things of this world but in the His temple.
    Carry on.

  35. poohpity says:

    I have thought about that too. In my understanding of that verse although Jesus is the God/Man He had a distinctive role to achieve while He was here before He returned to the Father. There are things that at that particular time were not on His to do list and He felt that we did not need to know at that time when the end was to come. Jesus obviously knew the things that had to happen before the end times as He enlightened John with after His ascent to heaven. It seems that He only let us know things on a need to know basis and the rest we believe in faith although we may not understand. If you pray and ask for wisdom for that verse He will show you.

    So “steel” rubbing it in. We are all doing fine. How is the weather down there?

    It tickles me you have a wood burning stove yet you have internet, go figure.

  36. poohpity says:

    I can not limit God to a temple the walls can not contain all that He is, He is so much bigger than you or me. I feel we are all discipled by the Lord if we spend time reading His word everyday and allow the Holy Spirit to guide us into all truths then and only then can we understand a glimpse of our God.

  37. daisymarygoldr says:

    Steve, I’m glad you see the tender thoughtfulness and it is a relief to see the love of Christ “fix” the misunderstanding. Hope you always feel secure in this love shown by brothers and sisters in Christ.
    Pain is a burning zeal for the house of God, and today the house of God is the Body of Christ. It is not a secret shame that is exclusively mine. It must consume every person who calls on the name of Christ. Jesus was consumed with this pain… He whipped people at the temple doorsteps, He called Peter, Satan. There was no gentleness, despite the anger He loved them still and gave His life for them. John called people brood of vipers. The anger was not about the people but was directed at the enemy working through them. The anger I display here is not against people, it is against deceptive thinking of the enemy expressed on this page. My spiritual eyes do not recognize them as God’s thoughts but those of the deceiver. Steve, I still don’t know if you will be able to grasp this. I’m sure the Holy Spirit will explain this to you and others in His way and time. Meanwhile, I’ll also allow for the same Spirit to work out His gentleness within me. Thank you so much Steve, for understanding my pain.
    Helmet, a.k.a soloyo, Thank you! Blowing a kiss back to you:)
    narrowminded, The burden of your heart resonates with mine. The church belongs to Him and we must trust… He will bring all of us into a deep intimate relationship that He desires to have with each and every soul redeemed by His precious blood. Praying for all of us…

  38. poohpity says:

    I have yet to ever read about Jesus whipping people and I also noticed more inaccurate statements in your post about Jesus and His anger. It seems Jesus had anger that was toward the people and how they misapplied their knowledge of scripture and their misuse of the temple. It has always been beneficial for me to make sure that I do not hold others to standards I am not able to keep for myself. I believe this would be a good place to apply Matthew 7:1-5.

  39. bubbles143jc says:

    I loved the joke about the athiest and it just confirms it – GOD HAS A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR!!

    When I met Jesus on Easter Sunday 1993, I was a very broken vase. Since that very day my life has been one incredible day after another.

    Often, I cry from an ache that is not painful but, insanely joyful of the awesomeness, His wonder, His unfailing – WOW – love. I know for I know God loves me! I see it in me and I see it all round me…. thank you all, God continue to bless you generously.

  40. Laurielee says:

    Romans838, I laughed SO hard at your joke!!! I’ve heard it said that you can’t trust a Christian without a sense of humor. My own thinking is that Jesus was invited to weddings and such…it probably wasn’t because He was a stick in the mud. I feel a little odd when I see our pictures of Jesus, because He was a Middle Eastern male…but I love the picture out there of Jesus laughing.

  41. Laurielee says:

    narrowminded, you are very right in that it doesn’t do a bit of good to know ABOUT Jesus, you must KNOW Him.

    IMHO, there are many, many people, even in churches that know all about Jesus and can quote you chapter and verse. Their minds are wrapped all around the knowledge and concept of Jesus, but they refuse to humble themselves and take themselves off the pedestal of the god that they have made of their own intelligences. When we tell ourselves that we’ve finally ‘gotten it’, we wrap that protection around ourselves in order to build up OURSELVES, therefore making others ‘lesser’. Where’s the humility in that? We have to die to self, or ‘ego’ daily. No, for me, I have to live by the second! Every time I learn someting, I realise that there is yet a million more things for me to learn. It’s those times I also realise the simplicity of wisdom. I am capable of no good, lasting thing on my own. Those of us that act like we’ve got it all together…it’s exactly that…an act! God doesn’t CARE if we can quote each chapter and verse, and recite each book of the Bible in order. He wants our child-like faith. He wants our love and obedience. Heart, soul, mind and strength…and that ‘love one another’ thing…He meant it!

  42. daisymarygoldr says:

    Thank you for questioning the accuracy of my statements. Here is my response:
    1. Job. I agree with what you say. Please refer to my response to sjd February 11th, 2009 at 8:54 pm in “The Spirituality of the Redwoods”.
    2. Yes, it was Peter. In my flow of thoughts I generalized it as the disciples’ unbelief.
    3. Yes, Jesus had anger. Toward the people? I don’t see it that way because I believe Jesus loves the sinner i.e. people but hates sin. I hate the sin of homosexuality and but will not hesitate to reach out and help if a homosexual person is in need.
    4. How they misapplied their knowledge of scripture and their misuse of the temple.yes, to me some of the thoughts written on this subject show how some have misapplied their knowledge of scripture…though you may not agree with me on this…its OK… to perceive things differently…because we are learning to be different together.
    5. Holding others to standards? poohpity, I greatly appreciate you questioning my accuracy and I also appreciated Steve pointing out my flaws… it is profitable for my Christian growth to stay humble while being corrected by both God and others.
    Hope, this helps clarify my statements…

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