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Now What?

Photo: Giuseppe Andrea

Photo: Giuseppe Andrea

Some in our day have taken issue with the idea of  a national leader who admits before a watching world that his country has made mistakes that have contributed to international problems.

Reminds me of a story that my barber told me earlier this week. He said that while volunteering to cut hair at a veteran’s facility, he was talking with the man in his chair—when another resident became distracted by their conversation.

As I remember it, the other resident said something like, “Seems to me that they could get a barber who had enough manners to not talk when others are trying to listen to the television.

My barber said that he turned to the man and said, “Sir, I sincerely apologize. I didn’t realize I was talking so loud.”

Whereupon the other resident replied, “You’re a grown man. You don’t have to apologize.”

In both cases, admission of wrong is seen as a weakness.

The Bible tells another story.

Am thinking of what happened when the nation of Israel came to the conclusion that having a king in heaven wasn’t enough. It was time, they thought, to have a real king, like the leaders of neighbor nations, a king who could make sure that their needs were being met—while also being able to lead them in battles.

In many ways, the people had reason for their request. Their current leader, Samuel, was a spiritual man, a prophet-priest, who was getting on in years. What really bothered the people, though, was that Samuel’s sons, who seemed destined to replace their father, had a reputation as being unprincipled, self-centered men, with no fear of God.

Samuel, however, responded to their request for a king with alarm. He let the people know that he thought they were making a big mistake.

Conventional wisdom could say that Samuel took their demand for a king personally and that he responded in defense of his own judgment, office, and sons.

But if so, Samuel also stuck his neck out. To show that he wasn’t just speaking and acting in his own interests, he said he was going to ask God to send a thunderstorm at the time of harvest to help them see what a mistake they had made (this was at a season of the year when it did not normally rain).


The heavens seemed to be listening.

As the sky darkened and lightning flashed overhead, the people saw that they were in trouble. Chilled by the falling rain, they gathered cold, wet, and trembling before Samuel. With one voice they admitted that they had been wrong, and asked Samuel to appeal to God to intervene in their behalf.

I love Samuel’s response and often come back to it when wondering what to do in times of trouble. It reminds me that what I own up to–and admit to– now is more important than what I’ve done.

As an answer to his peoples admission of wrong, Samuel said,

“Don’t be afraid.”… “You have certainly done wrong, but make sure now that you worship the LORD with all your heart and that you don’t turn your back on him in any way…

Don’t go back to worshiping worthless idols that cannot help or rescue you — they really are useless!  The LORD will not abandon his chosen people, for that would dishonor his great name. He made you a special nation for himself. “As for me, I will certainly not sin against the LORD by ending my prayers for you. And I will continue to teach you what is good and right. But be sure to fear the LORD and sincerely worship him. Think of all the wonderful things he has done for you. But if you continue to sin, you and your king will be destroyed.” (1Samuel 12:20-25 NLT)

The best leaders… like the most mature people… know that if we have done wrong, the strongest action is to own it. The weakest action is to ignore or deny it.

Revisiting that event in the life of Israel  has often helped me– even when I don’t see a clear relationship between my wrongs and the trouble in which I find myself.

What matters is whether we let our fear drive us to the Lord– rather than away from him… whether we have wrongs to own up to… or not.

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33 Responses to “Now What?”

  1. phpatato says:

    This is sooo far off topic except for the letting our fear drive us to the Lord or away from him part…

    I am about to meet an ambulance at the hospital. My 90 year old mom will be in that ambulance. She had a blood transfusion 2 days ago because of low hemoglobin. The Doctor suspects she has a slow bleed somewhere. She has not responded to the 2 units she was given and is still very much lethargic.

    Your prayers are appreciated.

    As for fear….I am scared but I am not afraid. I TRUST MY LORD.


  2. pegramsdell says:

    Pat, I will be praying for your mom. May the blood of Jesus flow through her to heal her and restore her. And may The Holy Spirit fill you both with peace and comfort. God is in control and knows everything. There is nothing He does not know. He is our King!
    Peg :)

  3. SFDBWV says:

    Boy oh boy Mart, This is one of thoes topics that has more than one subject to respond to. I will have to see which one to choose first.

    First of all Pat, let me say our prayers are offered up for you and your mother.

    A national leader who admits mistakes??? I would have to say that it would depend on whether or not you would agree or disagree with him that mistakes were made and what they might be.

    Personaly, I think nationaly, we make many mistakes. They start with the removal of prayer from our school systems and go downward to the point of abortion on demand.

    If this national leader is refering to this kind of mistake, then I would agree with him wholeheartedly.

    If he is simply refering to global politics,I would have to see once again whether or not I thought we were in agreement.

    Just like I would have agreed with Samuel that the people were rejecting God, not Samuel.

    The result, is the same as the mistake we are making by removing God from the formula of governing our country. Take God out and what have you got left? The world and all it’s evil, in control of our national destiny.

    Speaking of wrongs I do, I would have to say that the only way up out of that hole is to face up to the mistake, make amends for it ask forgiveness from both any person offended and from God.
    It is not fear that drives me to that conclusion. It is the right thing to do. It is instinctive in me. Instinctive because of the heart of God that has taken up residence in my heart. Sometimes it takes courage to follow His instincts. But He will help you find the strength.
    This relationship between God and I, is not based on fear, but rather love.

  4. poohpity says:

    I wonder if no one ever admitted to a mistake or wrong how on earth do they ever get to the point of needing to ask the forgiveness of God for salvation. It would look like this, “Lord, I know you died on the cross for my sins but as of yet I have not committed any and even if I did I am to big to admit it.” Can you just imagine the impact that would have in our world for no one to admit to mistakes or wrongs.

    I have family members that say to me, “you know admitting you were wrong and asking for forgiveness does not take away what you did or said”. Although that is very true and has help me pay attention to think before I speak and act, it is also true that I mess up often because I am not perfect. I would love to say to them, “it would be nice for you just to admit you have done or said something wrong” but that I do not see as happening. I think it is so very wonderful for someone to admit to their wrong, I can not even begin to tell you what it means to me or anyone for that matter.

    I can just imagine how God felt after personally directing and caring for this group of people and for them to turn around and say that that is not good enough we want to be like all the people around us. It seems unimaginable but we do that everyday when we do not have a close dependency on the Lord for everything. When we say I can do it myself or even think God wants us to do things on our own that is where the trouble comes in. We are different and hopefully people will see that difference or maybe we need to do some self reflection on who we really follow.

  5. HEY REV says:

    Pat: I along with many others will keep your prayer request before the Lord. Your request was not ill timed. Some thing WENT WRONG (as Mart is bringing out) somewhere with Mom and coming before our Lord is the right thing to do.
    But what our subject matter is about I agree with SFDBWV as a two or even three fold approach.
    One person deems something a mistake another does not. All and I repeat ALL errors and mistakes are governed by God’s Holy Word, and what He says. I try very hard many times to see the 5 (“W’s) according to the Bible and hit it right on and other times do not. Some of you might remember a statement some years ago to give God’s word absolute truth in what it said.
    The statement went like this:
    Well that went well for some years, untill someone started another one that was supposed to show God is speaking here and it goes like this:
    Now that really is the bottom line. The difficulity is knowing that I’m in total agreement with God and His word, not the other person(s) and me.It’s great when all are in the same agreement but how often does that happen. Most of us (mostly me) do not follow the Word because we do not know the depth of it. There is so much depth in just JOHN 3:16 that would fill pages even trying.
    God and His LOVE and FORBEARANCE alone to us blow’s me away. It started in the garden with the first two human’s and has been going ever since. They couldn’t follow just one command, and neither can we, the very first commandment: Love the Lord your God with your WHOLE HEART, WHOLE MIND, YOUR WHOLE SPIRIT, and your neighbor as yourself.
    Catch the word WHOLE, means just that WHOLE.
    Very hard for me.
    Listen God is usning Mart to open our minds and do some in depth thinking about like he’s confessing: “even when I don’t see a clear relationship between my wrongs or rights and the trouble in which I find myself. I respect Mart as a mature leader who wants to be right before God, and if so it will show. Hey right on Mart.
    Let me finish with this. When all is done who do we answer to, or is that even a question to be asked.
    love you all in Jesus name
    QUOTE: You cannot plant an acorn in the morning and expect that afternoon to sit in the shade of an oak tree.
    Don’t know why I brought up this quote but it sounded good so I couldn’ pass it up.

  6. poohpity says:

    You’re family has been lifted up from here too.

    I just received a call from my dad who has just been diagnosed with lung cancer. They will remove the lobe it is contained in the 28th of September. Please also pray for him.

  7. sawaybon says:

    Good morning from Malaysia! It has been awhile since I posted, but I have been tracking BTA even though I have been busy settling into my new role as an administrator in an international Christian school — something that is one of a kind in this Muslim country, I might add (Glory to God!). What really caught my attention with this topic is how it echoes a message delivered this past week to our middle and high school students by a local Malaysian pastor during a series of meetings for our Spiritual Emphasis Week.

    He spoke of Abraham and how the Lord renewed His covenant with him when Abraham was 99 years old (Gen. 17:1-2)– guaranteeing to give him countless descendents. Although God had promised that to him many years earlier, Abraham had lost hope of that promise coming true, and had even taken matters into his own hand and fathered a son through his wife’s servant because Sarai herself was infertile. This son, Ishmael, was now 13 years old, so for 13 years, Abraham had carried regret for a very visible mistake he had made.

    And now God was promising to bless him, and to carry on His work in and through him, inspite of that. The point was that God can use us inspite of past mistakes or regrets we may have. That spoke to me as I embark on this new ministry He has called me to. I realize that God can make me effective inspite of my past failures and regrets. How encouraging!

    We do not need to wallow in regret, asking “Now what?” Like Abraham, we can trust God with the absurd (imagine a 99-year-old with a newborn!) and find purpose in life to the end of our days.

  8. bubbles says:

    It’s strange this ‘admitting to our wrongs’ is the topic. It seems that this has what is the crux of the issues in my classroom this past 4 weeks. . . students are caught doing something against the rules, they deny it, or have an excuse. Please pray that I would have wisdom to deal with this behavior from about 75% of the children. It is difficult to teach when this is a constant battle. I’m so very thankful for the job, however! :) very thankful!!

    It never never feels right to try to make an excuse for a behavior, because deep down, we know we were in the wrong. It’s like a rock in a shoe. It’s just best to admit it and get it over with!

    Sort of side topic–what is really scary is that God gave His people what they wanted–they got the King. Saul. Look what a tragic mess that was in many ways.
    There has been something I’ve been asking the Lord about for about 26 years. I don’t know if He’s saying no, or not just yet. There are times when I stop asking. How do we know the difference between no and not now?
    It’s scary–I certainly don’t want Him to give me what I want. When I pray, it is always asked if it is His will. . . could this be done, but it is a concern.

    Pat, your mom will be prayed for here.
    Deb, oh my, I’m so sorry about your news. You’ve been in my prayers, and will continue to be. Will pray you can rest well tonight. .

  9. Ted M. Gossard says:

    Good point and points, Mart.

    It must be true in ourselves as well, even when we think misunderstanding surrounds it. We need to own up to mistakes.

    I do think this is a strength in a leader. It really puts one on shaky ground if they won’t acknowledge mistakes or sins, making one wonder if they really believe that.

  10. pegramsdell says:

    I totally believe that Samuel really loved the people. No matter how people hurt us we need to point them back to The Lord because we love them. And pray for them to be restored to God.

    Poohpity, I’m so sorry about your dad. You and your dad will be in my prayers as well. Love you. Peg

  11. craigb says:

    The key is knowing. If a country has done wrong is a very debatable point. While some believe our country has done wrong — others believe the opposite.

    The current leader is apologizing for the perceived wrong actions of a previous leader. He is not apologizing for anything that his leadership may have caused.

    Owning up to to what is perceived as someone else’s wrongs is easy. Owning up to what you know are your wrongs is not. But that is what drives us back to God: knowing your wrongs, admitting them and turning away from them.

  12. poohpity says:

    This is picky but a country is an inanimate object. It is the folks that mess up who run it and/or ruin it. lol

    Is there one president that did no wrong? Let me think! I think that would be a no! It has taken a while to get where we are now. It would take someone with the drive to try and sit down and pick through the issues one by one and sort out where things can change for the better. Or that person can just keep compiling problems.

    You are so right.

    I feel the need to undo some of the wrong my parents did. I struggle with whether it is my responsibility or not. The law says it is not but my heart says if there is something I can do, do it.

    Just like that patron in the barbershop he had a very myopic view. It would have been nice if he would have considered others but only thought about how he alone was being burdened.

  13. poohpity says:

    I was wondering if we as Christians continually complain about how the government is doing things but yet we do nothing to promote change what does that say about us? Just thinking!!

  14. SFDBWV says:

    Just taking a break from projects and duties to let my batteries charge back up. I thought I would check in to see what was going on.

    craigb, you are 100% right. Nothing special about criticizing anothers efforts.

    Deborah, I am saddened to read of your fathers cancer. I pray for your journey through this to be strengthened with the love of Christ in every area of it for you. As you already know my own parents died just 8 weeks apart from each other. It is a numbing experiance.

    The story of Israel wanting a king instead of God is filled with good avice for all future generations. But how often do we take “any” advice, other than following our own desires? Then falling on our faces and both crying out for help and blaming anyone except ourselves?

    God the Father is always the good Father, ready to extend a hand, forgive and forget. But we will live with the scars of our recklesness.

  15. DarleneJoy says:

    I welcome this opportunity to share and discuss things even though we don’t always agree.

    I firmly believe that it shows great strength of character for a leader to accept responsibility for wrongs – EVEN IF they were done during previous governments. If no responsibility is taken for the actions of the body that runs a country, then there is no starting point for moving forward.

    It is almost impossible to make changes for the positive without recognizing our own humanness and imperfections – and this is NOT a weakness, because it shows humility. God’s Word says that “God opposes the proud but gives grace to the humble.”

    It doesn’t matter if people don’t think there have been wrongs – what matters is that we have a leader that we can trust. If the leader is honest, even if it means appearing weak or being misunderstood, that is a strong foundation. Especially for a Christian leader.

    Just some of my thoughts.

  16. daisymarygoldr says:

    Very intense topic, but Mart for both in this as well as the previous post I really want to thank you from the bottom of my heart for using these enriched Bible passages to teach us profound timeless truths! It is extremely edifying not just to us in this blog but to the entire spiritual family out there—even some of our dear brothers and sisters that may be slum dwellers, woodcutters and trench-diggers… who have never read Tolkien or Lewis but in spite of their illiteracy or poverty they can readily relate to every issue that is being discussed here, through the stories of the Bible.

    I also love Samuel’s response: As a true prophet He spoke the whole truth “Don’t be afraid…But be sure to fear the Lord” “You have certainly done wrong,” but “do not continue to sin”, “The Lord will not abandon His people” but “you and your king will be destroyed.” Regardless of the people’s unfaithfulness and though not of the Levitical order, as their high priest Samuel assured them of his faithfulness to always pray and teach what is good and right. And because during that time, Israel was a theocracy, Samuel’s role was limited to just delegate the authority of God their King.

    However, what I really love is the response of Jesus Christ: Our Prophet who is Himself the Truth, our faithful High Priest who is also not of the Levitical order… who did not simply wash His hands of our sins but took them upon Himself to wash and make us clean. Even today for each and every sin He is faithfully interceding on our behalf before the Father and is also instructing us to do what is good and right.

    “Therefore, brethren having boldness (i.e. don’t be afraid) … having a High Priest over the house of God, let us draw near with a true heart (i.e. to serve God with sincerity and truth)… For if we sin willfully after we have received the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, but a certain fearful expectation of judgment (i.e. the fear of the Lord)… Of how much worse punishment, do you suppose, will he be thought worthy who has…insulted the Spirit of grace?” Heb 10:19-29

  17. daisymarygoldr says:

    Mart, if I say “I don’t see a clear relationship between my wrongs and the trouble in which I find myself” then there is no reason for me to fear and there is no wrong to own up for. Obviously, just like it was in the case of Job though I may not see it clearly there “is” definitely something that is wrong, isn’t it? And you are absolutely right in saying that for “the best leaders…The weakest action is to ignore or deny it.”

    According to Jer 6 The Msg, we cannot ignore and deny when it is as clear as day… that we are wrong to reject the true God and worship the idols of materialism. “Everyone’s after the dishonest dollar… Prophets and priests and everyone in between twist words and doctor truth”. We cannot say nothing is wrong when the Church is afflicted with an abnormal epidemic outbreak of mental and emotional disorders, alcohol, drug, sex and porn addiction, despair, suicide, self-pity, and every other form of escapism.

    When the heavens themselves are listening to the “people that are broken—shattered” we can’t turn a deaf ear to the cries rising from adulterous relationships, broken marriages, dysfunctional homes and confused families without both parents who are raising out of control children that are in turn growing up and falling hopelessly to teen-aged pregnancies and sexually transmitted diseases not in the immoral world but right within the moral realms of the church.

    After knowing the truth, we can’t turn away to worship worthless idols of education, Science and Technology and expect those humanly-devised solutions to rescue us from our troubles. It is futile to put on those counselor “band-aids” and insist that ‘It’s not so bad. You’ll be just fine.’ But things are not ‘just fine’! We know that does not help… rather it only adds to our misery, confusion, unhappiness, discontent, and even hopeless desperation. An AIDS specialist who is herself afflicted with the diseases cannot offer compassion, comfort and healing to those suffering from AIDS, can she? Similarly, a sin-diseased church cannot serve sin-diseased people of this world.

    So, “Now What?”? Now, what is needed is to readily admit our wrongs… it is not a sign of weakness, it is not something to be ashamed of and there is nothing to be embarrassed or be fearful about. It is a sign of wisdom to trust in His strength and turn to the message of God—Jesus Christ who is also our King! “Go stand at the crossroads and look around. Ask for directions to the old road, The tried-and-true road. Then take it. Discover the right route for our souls.”

    When God’s Word binds our wounds and heals our sickness, spiritual health is restored to the Body which then becomes an epitome of compassion, a beacon of hope, bringing the message of God’s way of life to the hurting world… not to convert or fix this world but to—to reach out to struggling, suffering people and offer the age-old saving grace of God now made available for free in Jesus Christ our Lord!

  18. kaliko88 says:

    “What matters is whether we let our fear drive us to the Lord– rather than away from him… whether we have wrongs to own up to… or not.”

    This is what got my attention. I have been letting my fear and shame drive me, because I have been “escaping” away from everything lately. For that reason, DMG, I cannot quite agree with you. Admitting a wrong is extremely scary and embarrassing. For me at least. The shame and fear have such a strangle hold on me, I can’t talk to anyone. And so I “escape.” My only redeeming quality right now is I don’t hide continually. Eventually, I try again. I don’t give up. He won’t let me.

    I hope that made sense. I’m so tired right now I probably shouldn’t even be attempting to think about this. But I had to stop by, I needed a lesson on His Word so badly. As usual the timing for the subject is perfect.

    Pat and Pooh, I’ll be praying for you both. I know how hard it is to see a loved one go through such harsh health problems.

  19. phpatato says:

    Thank you so much for your prayers.

    Just a quick update…As feared the doctors believe mom has an internal bleed somewhere. Her creatinine levels are high which suggests the kidneys are shutting down. The question is just how invasive do we want the procedures to be – on a 90 year old – to find and confirm the diagnosis. We don’t. Her heart valve is all but closed. Her blood pressure is 70/55, there abouts, half the time. She loves her LORD with all her heart and is so ready to meet her Master. All I can say is Thy will be done. I am sad and am starting to feel a huge hole inside me but HE knows this. HIS arms are wide open to me. We will take one day at a time.

    I ask please that you lift up my dad in prayer. At 93, he has significantly lost his cognitive ability but he is so aware that something is wrong with his “little angel”. We are readying our hearts and minds with a fact that he may not be far behind her. They have been married 67 years. I simply cannot imagine what he must be feeling.

    Oh Pooh, I’ll be praying for you.

    Kali – DON’T give up and firmly know that HE WON’T GIVE UP either. HE loves you. Cast your cares upon HIM and He will guide you through this.


  20. xrgarza says:

    When I was a young child I was told by my parents that if I would tell the truth they would go easy on me but if I lied Lord have mercy on me.

    I believed them but I learned that when I would tell the truth all ^&!! Would break loose. Until I learned that if I lied and they didn’t find out I would experience no instant physical pain. I learned how to lie to the point of being convincing enough to avoid instant physical punishment.

    As I grew older I realized that I had similar choices facing me spiritually. I knew that when I would sin I would end up separated from God after I left this world. I later learned that it was not the sin or the punishment that was so hard to bear but the lack of knowledge I had for God’s forgiveness and my parents love who wanted nothing but the best for me.

    Like the people during days of Samuel, I just wanted to be doing what everyone else was doing without getting in trouble. Today I know that I can do all things through Christ who strengthens me! Phil. 4:13 and in Christ there is no condemnation but forgiveness and simply for the asking.

    The Lord reminds us that His yoke is easy and His burden is light. Knowing that God represents the law and Jesus represents mercy no matter what we do we are going to have a yoke and burden on us, but His grace is sufficient for us. You see from what I have learned the law has little to no mercy spiritually or physically.

    Recently I received a driving infraction in my company vehicle for driving faster than the posted speed limited, the first thing the officer told me was, that if I was honest with him he would not be as hard on me, I initially thought and almost heard my parents voice as he recited those words. But the Bible tells me and I was reminded that the truth will set me free.

    Knowing the technology that is available to our officers I could not argue with that fact and win, so as a result I was honest with the officer. I however will still face a hefty fine, receive a point and a half on my driving record, and I will have to re-take every one of my DMV test all over again when it comes time to renew my license in a year and a half. I think that’s a whole lot better than having my company truck confiscated and being thrown in jail. For that I say Praise God!

    PS: Pat, Just a word of encouragement when two or three are gathered in His name He is there also, know that there are more than two or three of us just here in this medium. I too will be praying for your mother.

    Have a great Day


  21. xrgarza says:

    PS: Pooh I will be praying for your dad as well.

    ~ Xavier

  22. xrgarza says:

    Bubbles, I feel the same way, I am not currently married and have not been for years, although I think that I would love to be.

    My son who has been married for over ten years and my daughter over nine and both of my brothers for over thirty years, I just want what they have, or do I?

    Maybe I should just listen to the wisdom of Samuel and Paul, when Paul say’s that when married you will encounter many problems. Why can’t I hear the thundering cloud burst that the people heard during the days of Samuel?

    Is it because I’m not listening? Or is it because I don’t want to? Hmmm


  23. bubbles says:


    Went back and re-read what I wrote the other day.
    I don’t believe I specified what I was praying about.
    It really has to do with more of a family issue that I choose not to share here. No one really wants to read about it. Nor do I want to waste space here telling about it.

    There are times when humans make mistakes that cannot be repaired because of wrong decisions made–especially when they don’t choose to change or see there is a problem. Some times things/circumstances have been wrong for so long, that if they were righted, things would feel wrong. Sometimes wrong decisions made by one family member effects more than just that one person. So, what was being prayed for effects more than just me.

    I do try to listen to God, and I really really want to hear what He has to say. Next to Him, I know nothing.
    Yet, God is quiet. We have to trust Him that He is in control.

    It doesn’t deal with what you metnioned above.

  24. wretch-like-me says:

    I cannot help thinking about the awakening of conservative christians across our country who realize we must get off our butts, down our knees, and into the streets with a gentle but firm stance against liberal,’godless’ people that we have ‘allowed’ to take control.

    Mart’s topic is far-reaching in that it begs the question “What have I allowed to continue without taking a visible, vocal stance against?”

    My wife and I have just begun re-reading Ezra and Nehemiah. How like the Israelites are we, christians, who have allowed our world to continue to be ‘infected’ with a fatal dose of sin under the guise of ‘tolerance’.

    I am reminded that we are as 2 Tim 2:24 puts it…

    “servant(s) of the Lord must not quarrel but be gentle to all, able to teach, patient, (25) in humility correcting those who are in opposition, if God perhaps will grant them repentance, so that they may know the truth, (26) and that they may come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, having been taken captive by him to do his will.”

    Likewise, Jesus taught us to ‘render unto Caesar the things that are Caesar’s…and to God the things that are God’s.’ We are commanded to obey civil govt only so far as civil govt obeys God. But, who is civil govt.

    In America, WE,The People, are the govt. It is our responsibility to respond, interact and reward or reprimand those who represent us at the govt levels.

    If we do not, we are to blame. We will be held responsible; if not in this world, it surely will be in the next.

    I encourage all of us to consider 2 Timothy as a text to read and meditate upon especially in light of the current world situation and the political processes that we still have some control over.

    I leave you with this from Chapt 3 of 2 Timothy:

    “But know this, that in the last days perilous times will come: For men will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, brutal, despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.”(NKJ)


  25. bubbles says:

    What I have seen of people being married only brings heartache, trouble, sorrow, and problems. No one can fully trust another.

    No one ever truly knows someone else. The only one who we can fully place our trust in is the Lord.

  26. xrgarza says:


    I was not trying to assume who or what you have been praying for, I was relating to the fact that you have been praying for something for a long time. Yes so have I, I am not surprised that they are two different things, I just happened to expose what I have been praying for wondering what message God is conveying to me, if any.

    But I’m with you when it comes to heartache and sorrow and all the gunk. Yes our trust in the Lord is secure.


  27. bubbles says:

    Thank you. sorry for the misunderstanding.

  28. poohpity says:

    bubbles and Xavier,

    It is ok to desire to be married. I believe that is something God created for us to have the companionship of a like minded best friend. It takes time to get to know someone and determine if it is the right person for you. People just want to rush into so many things that they live to regret their decisions. Then when trouble comes it is so very easy to call it quits rather to work together to achieve a common goal.

    That is the same thing that is happening in our country. Some decisions have to be made quickly but some take time to measure the consequences. The consequences of any bad decision effects many people but hopefully we will find our voice. “We The People” have to start finding different folks to represent us.

    I do not believe that goes against our Christians beliefs. I do not think it is wrong to want people to have morals or ethics when holding an office in the government. It is our right as members of this great nation. It is not a dictatorship or socialist government it is a democracy. IT IS OUR ROOTS!! :-)

  29. xrgarza says:

    Thank you Deborah for the very good word. So very well said.

    I have missed dialoging with you hope all is well,



  30. pegramsdell says:

    Xavier, praying for you to find someone to share your life with. Be blessed, Peg :)

  31. Jing says:

    Mart-can’t believe what you wrote about Obama apologizing. What an un-American remark! I’m sure you’re aware he also remarked that “we are no longer a Christian nation”. You spend so much time defending the liberal agenda. I don’t understand it. You never mention Sarah Palin or Mike Huckabee. People of value that stand for our Christian heritage. You need a serious wake up call. I’m afraid there is no comparison to Barack Hussein Obama and Samuel. This is America..and I will stand with it..and more so with God.

  32. poohpity says:


    If you read often on this blog, Mart doesn’t take a stand one way or another on politics. We normally search for the spiritual implications in life today. It would be nice if one were not so quick to jump to conclusions.

  33. poohpity says:

    I think admitting when we do wrong shows our love and dependence on the Lord (1 John 1:8-10 NIV). To me it does not show weakness but humility and understanding of our human condition. Any one can see the mistakes in others it takes a Godly person to look at their own and own them. That seems to be the only way to understand how undeserving we are of God’s grace or mercy otherwise we may feel entitled which causes a grandiose opinion of ourselves.

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