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Feel Loved Today?

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In the Apostle Paul’s letter to the Ephesians he writes out an extended prayer that expresses his longing that his readers will be given by God the ability to understand something of the immeasurable height, depth, and breadth of how much God loves them.

Do you think this prayer has anything to do not only with how we feel about ourselves, but how we treat others?

I go through times when I am often full of self-condemnation and contempt for others. During those times I, admittedly, do not sense an assurance of how much I am loved by God. But in those moments when his acceptance and affection seem as real as Jesus, the world itself looks different to me.

Here’s a link to what Paul prayed. Wish we could talk about how important you think this prayer is…and why it is a prayer– rather than just a strongly expressed feeling. And when we don’t get it… why not?

“And may you have the power to understand, as all God’s people should, how wide, how long, how high, and how deep his love is.” Paul


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  1. florida7sun says:

    My daughter has two beta fish that dwell in their bowls of water. They give our family pleasure, and we enjoy feeding them throughout the day. Periodically, their bowls need to be cleaned and refilled with fresh water for them to survive.

    We live in a world Our Creator designed for us. We depend upon the air to keep us alive. We depend upon the earth to provide physical nourishment. That world has been polluted through a spiritual battle long in the making. It has affected all of mankind and saps our strength.

    Yet, for those whose names are written in the Lambs Book of Life, we have become bond-slaves of Our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ. We no longer live, but Christ lives His Life in us.

    “Righteous Father,” he prayed, “though the world does not know you, I know you, and they know that you have sent me. I have made you known to them, and will continue to make you known in order that the love you have for me may be in them and that I myself may be in them.” – John 17:25-26

    Praise the Lord that His Spirit empowers those who hunger for righteousness. They lovingly desire to be transformed from the inside out through the power of prayer and His Word. They cannot be restrained from that pursuit, for Jesus is life now and forevermore.

  2. SFDBWV says:

    Ephesians 3;14—I still like it in the poetry of the King James, but also keep newer translations around should I need help.

    Question being today do we feel loved?

    I can tell you that from Matthew’s (my son) point of view, no he does not feel loved.

    I can go on and tell you all the reasons why he feels that way, but the answer remains the same. He holds out little bits and pieces of hope now and then that God may yet have mercy on him and heal him, but It doesn’t help him much now to hear people tell him God loves him or that when he gets to heaven all of his physical disabilities will be restored Though he hears it anyway.

    I have learned a great many things these past 12 years and one of them is to never judge the attitude of people who are at rock bottom and feel let down from a God they thought would keep them safe and protect them through life.

    The mystery of why God allows such things in a persons life, has to for me remain a mystery and though I know that in the end, God’s actions or lack of them are the right thing for me and for my son. Because I fully trust God and believe Him.I am grieved for people who like Matt have to overcome so much more than I to keep up the faith.

    Every night at bed time Matthew joins me in praying for others, he allows me to include him in these prayers but he clearly believes that God will help others but not him. It is how he can justify his unhealed condition while believing in God and the promises Jesus presented us with.

    He gets offended when he hears someone insult Jesus on TV or question God, if he gets an email from someone asking for prayer he has me and him pray right then and there no waiting until later.

    But no he does not feel loved by God, only abandoned to his misery.

    I can argue against his thinking, but then it is not me who cannot remember my past, no friends, no wife no job, no enjoyment of living.

    So when Mart asks do we feel loved, I have two answers; one I can see the hand of God upon me and my family and see clearly His love everywhere around me in every matter great and small. Secondly I can understand why there are those who do not, and can only pray that they have that peace that surpasses understanding as offered in Ephesians 3:19.

    Steve

  3. InHisHands says:

    Thank you, Steve. I believe God has used you to give me insight to my son’s circumstances.

  4. Mart De Haan says:

    This is the kind of realism that affects all of us to some degree or another.

  5. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    Thanks Steve!

    There are times when we all feel like giving up, but where do we go, as Peter said!
    I am sorry if I may have dissed the USA on the last subject, but I do feel very strongly about where you are in the world and I am sure you cannot see it from where you are.
    Basically I am just trying to show you how others see you.
    Whether Islam or Eropean.
    I love you all and am looking forward to meeting you one day soon!

    Bob xxx

  6. poohpity says:

    Dr Stanley emphasized that life is 10% what happens to us and 90% the attitude about it. There are so many people that overcome adversity just by the attitude they have about it.

    I can only speak for myself in the times I am in self pity mode I feel bad about myself and look only at the bad in others. Who in their good senses would want to be around someone who is angry and hateful with a scowl on their faces. Only children throw tantrums when they do not get their way and I have those times when the child over takes the adult.

    The times when I can not see God’s hand I have to trust His heart. When I grew up I began to see that love is not expressed in giving me every thing I ask for but in the subtle ways like allowing me the freedom to love others and look for the good in them. The gentle touch of a friend or a hug. When I smile at someone and they have a frown and it turns into a smile it is in those times I see the love. It seems the more love is given away the more I get back. I think love does not always look like what I think it should sometimes it can be a little tough but it is still love.

    Do I feel loved today? I sure do, just because the bible tells me so and today I can look around me and enjoy seeing the hand of God. Ask me again in an hour from now, LOL.

  7. poohpity says:

    The question; “Do you think this prayer has anything to do not only with how we feel about ourselves, but how we treat others?” I believe it is totally evident in our behaviors if we really do not feel/know that we are loved. Have you ever seen someone who is in love it beams from them to others. Someone who does not know they are is usually angry, judgmental, critical, cynical, self righteous and the list goes on.

  8. cjaway1 says:

    To me, Paul’s prayer centers around comprehension of Christ’s love. In all of the comments today I sense a profound sharing of that love that He has for us.

  9. royalpalm says:

    Eph. 3:18,19 “that you, being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the width and length and depth and height— to know the love of Christ which passes knowledge; that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.”

    Note that the two important words in Paul’s prayer is for us to “comprehend” the width,length,depth and height of God’s love and “know” Christ’s love which surpasses knowledge.

    Our attitude and how we live are determined by our comprehension and knowledge of God’s love. Paul understood. His words and his life are testimonies of his love of our God who loves him…In his letter to Galatians in verse 2:20
    “I have been crucified with Christ; it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me.”

    No, I do not feel loved all the time. But by God’s grace and mercy, I know and understand that God loves me and that is all that really matters.

  10. nezzar says:

    I’ve always known that God loves me, but I haven’t always felt it. Having a child showed me a whole new depth to His love for me. When I see my daughter and I think that one is mine. That’s how God sees me. I’m near the end of my deployment to Iraq and miss her very much. This also gave me insight into how God feels every time I decide to go my own way instead of towards Him. Every time I backslide and stop spending time with him He misses me and just can’t wait for me to come back.

  11. nezzar says:

    It’s one thing to know that God loves you Its another to feel the love of Jesus and know it from personal experience.

  12. nezzar says:

    oneg2dblu, bratimus

    Have we allowed this one topic to divide us? I love you both in the short time I’ve been at this site I have enjoyed reading both of your posts and can’t help but feel a kinship with you. We are brothers in Christ after all. So why have we allowed one topic to split us up. I feel that I’ve had my fair share of attacks on this web site and even read some posts that I thought were stupid, but I left the site to come back another time so that I would not attack an individual. I don’t know how you feel about God speaking directly to you, but I know that He told me to keep my disagreements to people’s doctrine and not them personally and to stay at the site until kicked off. If we can’t show the love of Jesus on a Christian web site, then where. And what are we. Yes, I said ‘what’.

    yes, I copied and pasted this one from another topic but it is important and appropriate for this topic as well.

  13. nezzar says:

    God gave us families to show us how our relationship is supposed to be with him. When we are parents we understand to a grater degree how He feels about us. our brothers and sisters how we are supposed to feel about each other. As kids we love our parents obviously that is how we are supposed to see God. This metaphor breaks down and is less helpful when we have unhealthy families. No wonder the devil is after our families. Now think how God feels when his kids fight. Or how Jesus feels when His brothers and sisters fight. We should remember this even when we argue. We can disscuse things to discover deeper truths, but I’m convinced that personal attacks greave the Holy Spirit.

  14. oneg2dblu says:

    nezzar… you are loved by this brother, and if having a different veiw,opinion, our doctrinal stance is what is felt as division, then the Love of Christ we all share, will in no way be superceded by any conflict we have here. He riegns in our lives as the Supreme, Ultimate, Autrhority! I thought I’ve made a lame attempt to show that I don’t care so much about other things, than I do about Following Jesus Christ, and Him only as most important to any discussion here!
    If I have failed you and any others, in that respect, it is my human understanding that fails, and Not my Faith in Jesus! We all go through this challenging process here, until we learn, it is not that you are not loved, as much as it is, that you are misunderstood, or misunderstanding that our emotions sometimes get the better of us! We are not perfect yet, but God is working in all of us! In His Love,Gary

  15. bratimus says:

    First of all,

    I don’t always need to feel loved to know that I am Loved by Christ. As Christian we should all be aware that we won’t feel love in this darken world we live in. There are times when the suffering of Christ I share in is down right painful, i don’t complain about it, my comfort comes in knowing that Christ loves me. No mater how much strife I get or feel from believers or non-believers that wont divide me from Christ. Christ has ahold of me and not even the devil can take me out of Christ arms. One can say that Christ has invested a lot into me, Christ isn’t going to give up on me.

    I understand that the little conflicts that arise in this post towards what i write. Is that some might not understand what I’m saying, but where the faith and hope lays is that is that the one person that is looking for a sign or an answer will understand. It isn’t about the 99 that have the answer, but about one that might need to get a different point of view.

    I know the air of the world has no love for no one.

    I know that God has love for everyone.

    Guys I’m not a hugger, and i really wouldn’t feel comfortable being someones happy pill.

    I’m a uncle to many children and they like to play rough

  16. marma says:

    Steve, I appreciated very much what you shared. And Pooh, Amen!

    I didn’t read through all the posts of the last post, so don’t know what happened there.

    Until this year, I don’t think I really understood much about how much God loved me, and the depth of Jesus’ love, sacrifice, and victory. This past year I needed the Lord very badly and was at the end of my rope at work. I desperately needed Him and he was there for me. I couldn’t leave my situation and at times I was really concerned about being fired. Coming to that utter end (and maybe not so utter as I may face in the future) really made me see the grace of God and my need to walk each moment and believe His promises to me. That was the beginning. I seem to go by leaps and starts at times, and grind to a halt at others.

    My thought life is a huge battleground, and to be honest, at times my flesh asserts and I don’t want victory, just lack of conflict. I’m glad God wants more. There is so much to my life that is affected when I am walking according to my will and not his. I’m learning about confronting the misery and taking it to God instead of just covering it up, sleeping through it, or escaping into fantasy. It’s rough at times, but God is faithful.

    I wonder how much Jacob understood of God’s love? Scoundrel that he was, he wouldn’t let go. I find that it is important that I don’t let go, and like a treasure, God has been revealing the depth of his love for me. Now, that is blessing.

    Hebrews 11:6, another favorite verse says, he is a rewarder of them that diligently seek him.

    So many examples of this in scripture. Jacob, Hannah, Ruth, the Greek woman of Mark 7, the woman with the issue of blood, to name just a few.

    I’m encouraged by those people. Unlovely, unloved, disdained by others, often. Where man would push away as the disciples tried to do with some who sought Jesus, Jesus was ready to meet and transform them.

    I understand why it is prayer; it is real and Paul was understanding that more and more as he walked with Christ and lived through many harsh realities. So with all the apostles and those then and now who follow Jesus.

    It is weird how life can be so hard, gets harder, and the real need of God becomes more and more important to me despite the unchanging nature of my circumstances.

  17. poohpity says:

    brat, sometimes we have step out of our comfort zone. You were a happy pill today, lol. :-)

    We have talked in the past about whether love is a feeling or an action. I lean toward actions. God so loved the world He GAVE. Not God so loved the world He felt warm and fuzzy inside. :-)

  18. oneg2dblu says:

    Steve… I believe God gives us Eternity, because that is how long it will take, for us to comprehend the Love He has for us!
    When His People hurt, He feels their pain.
    When His People Love, He feels His Creation doing
    what He designed it to do! Gary

  19. oneg2dblu says:

    We are to Love even if it hurts!

  20. oneg2dblu says:

    I’m sure you have heard this phrase:
    “Hurt People, hurt people!”
    But, Forgiven People should Love,
    even those who hurt them. For that is how
    Our God, treats even those who hurt Him!
    My humanity does not want it that way,
    but His Forgiven Followers are Commanded
    to Love Him, and to Love others!
    Love!

  21. scout1 says:

    I really enjoyed your latest post. The picture of the dog is so appropriate because it is said and I have lived it –a dogs unconditional love/affection for his owner and family. It is just remarkable.

    I wanted to make a quick comment about what Mart said, “Wish we could talk about how important you think this prayer is…and why it is a prayer– rather than just a strongly expressed feeling. And when we don’t get it… why not? –I think it had to be a prayer because many people we just can’t love on our own. Only through Jesus can we see others the way we should and love them the way Jesus does.

    Steve -Your post was very thought provoking -thank you. Matt sounds like an exceptional young man! Thank you for sharing such “close to the heart” matters with us. Thank Matt as well!

    Lynda

  22. fiyameta says:

    This is a very powerful prayer,
    I remember praying this verses in a prayer group to one another by mentioning individuals name.

  23. SFDBWV says:

    Last evening on PBS (Pittsburg) I watched a very moving and sad story. It was about teachers and students in the Pittsburg area who were studying the Holocaust.

    They introduced people living in the area that survived the horrors of that awful time in our history. These people came to the various schools and spoke to the students about their experiences and thoughts.

    The program went a step further as all the survivors and the teachers went back to Poland to revisit the places and in one case the peoples who had impacted their lives so dramatically.

    I was moved by all of the stories as they centered around three individuals; One an Orthodox Jew who is a Cantor in his synagogue, another a man who has abandon all faith in God, and a woman whose mother gave her to a Catholic family as a baby in order to save her life.

    All three of these individuals lost their immediate families to the death camps except the Cantor, he and his father were saved by none other than Oscar Shindler, though his mother and young sister died in the gas chamber.

    The woman who had been saved by a Christian family went back and revisited the house where she lived and was reunited with the only living member of that family that had risked their lives to save another.

    The Cantor went and visited what was left of the death camp where his sister and mother were killed, and wept as he could hear their voices from amid the rubble of what was left of that awful place.

    The third man revisited the memorials and saw the names of his family remembered in the stone listing of names of those who were murdered for simply being Jewish. He was moved to tears but remains an atheist because of his life experience.

    It takes a great deal of thought sometimes to be able to “comprehend” God’s love amid life in this broken and fallen world. For those who do, there is a special reward, for those who don’t their hunger will remain and that whole in their spirit will leave them always looking for something to fill it.

    Another frosty morning in the mountains.

    Steve

  24. BruceC says:

    Do I feel loved today?

    Maybe. Some days I don’t “feel” loved. But when I think upon it even during the tough times; I “know” that I am loved. We walk by faith not by sight. By faith and no feelings or emotions that are here one second and gone another. I look at Joni Erichson and Corrie Ten Boom. They didin’t feel loved all the time but they found out they were loved all the time.
    Our Bible study group is doing the Book of Phillipians and we had a great discussion on Phil 4 v19 last night. A real eye opener.

    BruceC
    Soli Deo Gloria!

  25. SFDBWV says:

    A foot note to the story I posted this morning; the atheist as a young man had escaped from the camp he was in and joined up with some others who were in hiding. Though not officially members of the resistance they did encounter some German soldiers.

    With great difficulty he recalled that event of how they disarmed the soldiers and how the Germans told them they were sorry for all that was going on, however the little group he was with killed them anyway.

    It was clear the killing of these men was something he did not enjoy nor want to remember, that though he survived married and had a family he was never healed or free of the memories of his ordeal.

    Another lesson I have learned in life is that though there is only one way to God and that is through His Son Jesus of Nazareth, that God’s love is not restricted to we who have made the choice, alone.

    I think God’s tears and heart ache is something we may also need to “comprehend”.

    Steve

  26. cherielyn says:

    Feeling loved? This has been a struggle for my oldest son, Mike, his entire life. He just turned 44 and has been mentally handicapped since birth. He is one of those who is in between. His mentality range is 3-4th grade reading level and 5-6th grade in math. Yet, 15 years ago he was able to pass the written test for his driver’s license, the first time he took it, and also passed his road test on the first attempt. He is an excellent driver, much more so than many people I know. Yet, he cannot function well enough to take care of his own finances or hold down a job. He worked 13 years at a sheltered workshop. He was abused and witnessed the abuse of other clients there. Then he worked for about 2 1/2 years at another one and ended up not being able to continue working due to a rare skin condition that affects his hands. He wants to work instead of looking at the same four walls, every day, but is unable to. He lives in his own apartment.

    He has been cognizant of his disabilities since his early teen years, enough so that it frustrates him and he has asked, many times over the years, why God made him this way.

    As if that were not enough, two years ago, this month, he was diagnosed with possible early dementia. It is gradually getting worse, affecting his memory more and more and that is frustrating him, also. He keeps asking questions about why God would let him go through this when he already has other problems. He does not feel loved by God and it is hard to try to assure him that he IS loved.

    My husband, his step-father makes it very evident that he does not like my son and they lock horns constantly. My husband is not a compassionate person and just can’t seem to deal with my son’s disability and has stated, on numerous occasions, that my son has been faking it all these years. Incidentally, my son was 3 years old when we got married.

    Then I think about Joni Eareckson Tada. What a shining light she is to the disabled community! She openly shares her struggles, yet does not let them overcome her. I wish, somehow, I could inject some of her positive attitude into my son.

    I find encouragement in Romans 8, the entire chapter, but particularly verses 18, 26, 38 & 39.

    The following are from the KJV:
    Rom 8:18 “For I reckon that the sufferings of this present time are not worthy to be compared with the glory which shall be revealed in us.”

    Rom 8:26 “Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.”

    Rom 8:38-39 “For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come,
    Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.”

    I only wish my son could comprehend these verses.

  27. SFDBWV says:

    Cherielyn, we share similar pain, my sympathies as well as my prayers for you. You and I and others like us share a responsibility to show God’s love tied together with our love for those in our care and heart.

    We may not hear what we want always from them but we know they love us and we know that somewhere through all of the drama of our lives God is there with us.

    Through each tear, each prayer, the anguish, even the little victories, God is there with us. All is not lost, in the end all we can do is trust God.

    Your witness and your son’s suffering are a living testimony to God’s love, even if we don’t see it others do. I am sorry your struggle is hampered by your husband.

    Though you and I may suffer we do not suffer alone.

    Steve

  28. oneg2dblu says:

    I have worked with severly handicapped children for years now, and have no doubt that God uses their disabilities to bring out in us, an agape love for them, that surpasses all understanding. I do not focus on the disability, I focus on the soul of that child who must endure it. This is a Gift of God for me, and I do not take it lightly, or dismiss it as common compassion. It goes far beyond any temporal emotional state, it goes to the Heart of the Matter, WE all matter to Our God! Have a blessed day, I know I am!
    Jesus Loves Us! Gary

  29. poohpity says:

    Praise God that we have been given another day to experience that nothing can separate us from the love of God through Christ Jesus. We can look around at all the things that we think we have been slighted of or we can be very thankful for the things we have.

    I do not think we get the love of God when we are busy thinking we have been given the short end of the stick which I have done many times. There are always those who are better off or those who are worse off but in this very place and and this very time we can be a candle of gratefulness to those who are broken who think that God does not care if we help them see all that they do have. Phil 4:8 tells us to think about all the things we can praise God for and to think about what is good, right, true, pure, lovely and find the good things in others and DWELL on them.

    I also thought about all the bad we get fed daily through the media it would cause anyone to have a sour attitude but we can help those we love by guiding them to see the other side of the coin if we ourselves can see the good, right, true, pure and lovely things of this world and not get stuck in what I can not do but rather what I can do. I know this works from experience in both areas feeling sorry for myself and being in the same position but being grateful for everything it really does change a persons outlook while opening our eyes to all that God has given us and just exactly how much we are truly loved.

  30. xrgarza says:

    Mart,

    Thank you,

    Do I feel loved? It’s interesting that you ask, I’ve always thought of myself as a pretty likeable/loveable person, but in recent years, most of the people that I meet would only want my company for what I can do for them, I usually only get calls if they need to borrow my truck, or money. Yet when I call and invite people to a given event their response is usually “I may be busy”, “I’ll let you know”, or a straight out no.

    I never thought that at 54, I would experience loneliness at such high level. When I think about what God would want me to do when I feel so strongly alone and unloved it gives me a boost for a while. But it’s not long before I start thinking of how I could return the meanness if you will & then I have to reel myself in.

    For example yesterday I won a family four pack for a theme park, that’s about two hours away, I thought of all the possible people that I could invite to join me, but all I could do was only think of my friends and family that have gone skiing, camping, to theme parks, picnics, road trips, dinner, and have never thought of inviting me, so then self steps up to the plate and says “heck, I’ll just go to the theme park by myself four different times” Lord knows that I love roller coasters.

    This Prayer that the Apostle Paul prayed is very Important, because he knew that we would all experience exactly what I just described, and he wanted us to continually be reminded of our ultimate objective. God loving us and us loving others, just as they are.

    Rocky

  31. poohpity says:

    When we ask God to “Use me” He answers our prayers. :-)

  32. xrgarza says:

    Yeah, Pooh, We ask God “use me” then He places us in opportunities that would allow us to be used and all we do is complain because it’s so uncomfortable. LoL :)

  33. nezzar says:

    I have felt the continual presence of Jesus for the last three or four months. That is the longest that I have ever continualy felt his presence in my life. There have been some very long times where I have not only not felt his love but also not felt His presence. I know that He has always loved me. My faith is not based on how I feel but on what the bible tells me and what I know in my heart to be true. I know that another time of not feeling Him there is coming; I dread it, but this is nessessary for my continued growth and maturity. Though He forsake me, yet will I fallow Him.

  34. poohpity says:

    I do not believe that He ever forsakes us however I do believe that we walk away from Him but we can always trust His heart when we can not see His hand. Romans 8:38-39 as cherielyn brought up.

    Rocky that is so very true. We just like to complain about not having things our way but our ways are not His ways.

  35. cherielyn says:

    Nezzar,

    God does not forsake us, rather, it is we who turn our backs on Him.

    Hebrews 13:5 (KJV) “Let your conversation be without covetousness; and be content with such things as ye have: for he hath said, I will never leave thee, nor forsake thee.”

    Nahum 1:7 “The LORD is good, a strong hold in the day of trouble; and he knoweth them that trust in him.”

    So, nezzar, maybe it should be stated, “Though I forsake Him, yet He is always near and will never leave me.”

    Thank you for your sacrifice, putting yourself in harm’s way, to serve our country. I pray for God’s protection over you and that he will bring you safely back home to your daughter.

  36. cherielyn says:

    Nezzar,

    I hope I didn’t make an incorrect assumption. I presumed you are from the U.S. & serving in Iraq.

    Regardless, thank you for your service.

    Cheryl – NE Wisconsin, USA

  37. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you all. Cherielyn, thanks for sharing your sons struggle. I will pray for you and your son and your husband!
    If I do not feel loved, (today while reading this post)I suddenly know what it means when David writes: I meditate on your law
    Psalm 1:2, Psalm 119.
    I can meditate on the fact that Jesus gave His life for me, so as to get me out of the pit, and set my feet on the Rock, Jesus.
    Meditate …. comprehend

  38. oneg2dblu says:

    To all you Mom’s out there… Happy Mother’s Day!
    Being a Mom is a gift from God. A Loving God who gives all the bearing of children, to only the Mom’s!
    Eve is the only acception, because she came from the side of a man, but all others who live today, came from child bearing Moms! We love all Our Mom’s! :)

  39. oneg2dblu says:

    nezzar… feeling the constant Presence of the Lord, is a blessing that should be expected for a true, Disciple and Follower, who knows and keeps in his heart, the Promises of the Word.
    I know how blessed you feel right now, in His Presence. I’m right there, for every time I’ve written to the Lord in my journal, I always thank him for his presence, telling him it is my most valued possession!
    It is not the “wandering sheep, who have refused to listen, who are found in peril, for they do not hear his voice!
    Whenever a believer is not feeling, Close to the Lord, guess who has moved away?
    We are all lost, who are not found in Him. For even
    on our worst day, in our darkest hour, His Presence is but a Prayer Away! We are Blessed!

  40. bratimus says:

    nezzar,

    I understand what you mean when you say not feeling the presence of God.

    but it isn’t that presence of God has left.

    Think of it like a plant and the Sun light. A plant in dicret sun light all the time will be scroched and withered. not letting the life cycle work to where it bares fruit. The sun doesn’t go away for long it just rises and sets for the life cycle of the plant, so that it might grow.

    Even when I don’t feel the presences of God, i still try to practice the presence of God. I will talk to god out loud as if God where right by me. People think I’m crazy and that I’m talking to my self. But i rather be thought of as crazy to man. Then not to think of God. One day i might even tell a tree about God if no one else wants to listen.

  41. cherielyn says:

    Thank you, to each one who responded to my post. It was a difficult day and I was really feeling down.

    I felt your caring and you have no idea how much it is appreciated.

    How wonderful to be able to share our struggles, with people we don’t even know, and feel like someone really understands and cares.

    I DO FEEL LOVED TODAY and not just by God!

  42. nezzar says:

    cherielyn

    Yes I am in the US Army, in Iraq. Thank you for your support. I just don’t make an issue of it because I want my comments to be taken in the light of the Word and not in light of my service. I don’t want the topic of my service to trump the topic at hand. However I have learned a lot about the love of God through this deployment which is the only reason I brought it up.

    Others

    Many of you have written in responce to my statement about not feeling the presence of God all the time. You are right to say that most of the time that we are apart it is because we have left Him. However there are time when we are seeking and not finding. These are times of maturing and building of our faith. And yes I know that He is ALWAYS there. gotta go I will finnish this comment latter.

  43. SFDBWV says:

    Not wanting to create a firestorm of disagreement, I hesitate to speak of this observation of scripture. If I offend please forgive me I am but a man and able to err.

    All of my “church” life I always heard dozens of well meaning people attempt to explain Jesus’ words on the cross. “Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani?”

    I never felt comfortable with their attempts to explain the comment, and it never made sense to me until I read the 22nd Psalm, which begins with the same statement word for word in question form.

    I accept and believe that which is given in Romans 8: 38-39; there is nothing that can separate us from the love of God

    So I have come to believe that Jesus was not abandoned on the Cross but that Jesus gave notice to those looking at his condition as that of prophesy given in Psalm 22. That this had to happen and was part of Gods plan. Not defeat, but victory.

    It is also that I believe he does not abandon us, he allows us the freedom to break his heart, but he is always there with outstretched hands ready to forgive and welcome us back into his arms.

    So as many here have already alluded to we may not feel loved, but we can be certain we are loved.

    Steve

  44. scout1 says:

    Joseph felt so loved by his father -then felt very unloved by his brothers and abandoned by God. What an interesting story. The whole time in God’s will but feeling so unloved at the same time.

  45. SFDBWV says:

    Yes Lynda, I think your comment about Joseph is quite appropriate, he was confused and felt abandoned but all the while God had a much bigger plan for him and those around him, even those we might have considered his enemies.

    It is comforting to believe that there is a bigger better plan in store for us and the ones we love, as we walk through the long dark valleys and wildernesses of our lives.

    It is that hope and that looking past the circumstances in our lives that I believe pleases God.

    My back yard is filled with the aroma of lilacs this morning, and the singing of birds…Spring is good, filled with life.

    Steve

  46. oneg2dblu says:

    nezzar… when we are “seeking and not finding,” could it be, that this is a time we are to be found waiting on the Lord?
    Ask, Seek and Knock, We have not, because we ask not!
    And if we ask for anything that is His Will, we will receive it. Maybe by our Faith alone for now, and not so much in the natural evidence of the world. In my case the word says that, You and your entire family, will be…
    I wait upon the Lord for that day to come, knowing it is a done deal, but no worldy evidence is found for my rejoicing!
    I cherish the words in Habakkuk’s Prayer, it is written about his telling us of no earthly evidence, but of a Faith that evelvates him to a higher ground, being ever Faithful to his Saviour.
    Habakkuk #:17-19 Though the fig tree does not bud and there are no grapes on the vines,though the olive crop fails and the fields produce no food, though there are no sheep in the pen no cattle in the stalls, yet I will rejoice in the Lord, I will be joyful in my Good my Savior. The Sovereign Lord is my strength; he makes my feet like the feet of a deer, he enables me to go on the heights. Amen!
    That to me, is written in the Presence of the Lord!

  47. oneg2dblu says:

    “Good” for God? Now there is a mistake that is truly not a miss!

  48. oneg2dblu says:

    Good morning Pooh… I hope you are feeling the love today! Some of us need it more than others, but I will leave that judgmental position to be challenged by the one who attempts, to throw the first stone. We all need it, and we all need it every day! So, here is a small gift, a package designed for,and given to you!
    In His Love, Gary

  49. oneg2dblu says:

    scout1… great post. It means that even when we don’t feel it, it is still there, this Love of God, that cannot be taken away, but can be felt as if it is not present!
    It is when “we” are present and acconted for, that we realize we are loved constantly, and forever!
    That is the blessed presence of the Lord!
    Remember the days “before’ you were given his presence to feel? Those are the days we never want to revisit!
    Gary

  50. oneg2dblu says:

    Steve… I really like your thoughts about Jesus’ responce on the Cross. But, how do you respond to his weeping even blood, when no other people were looking on, and the cross had not yet happened?
    It is like he, shed his blood for the up and coming death he would encounter, where “he alone” would have to suffer and lose his earthly bodily life, for the sins of others, and the world. Gary

  51. InHisHands says:

    I still have a lot of comments to read – but wanted to stope by and say HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY, to all the BTA Moms. I pray you have a blessed weekend of spoiled love.
    The ODB today, has shown me how to reopen communications with my youngest wayward son. My prayer is that during this incarceration time, he will come back to his senses, like the prodigal and truly understand the LOVE that God has for him. Than he will allow God to change him – and that he will allow God to use him. Thank you all for your prayers and please know, I do pray for you.

  52. bubbles says:

    This is way off topic. Please forgive me.
    But, the comments about Joseph brought back a question I have had for years. Hope it is acceptable to ask this.

    Joseph was greatly used of God. It is not written that Joseph grew bitter in his circumstances. His response honored God. He honored God with his body by running away from Mrs. Potiphar. He had the power to kill his brothers when they came to him for food, but he had forgiven them and was kind to them. He acknowledged God in his life: Gen. 50:20. In every way recorded, Joseph did right. In so many ways his life paralleled (sp?) Jesus’ life.

    So, why was the line of Christ through Judah’s family?
    (At the end, Judah was willing to lay down his life for that of Benjamin’s. . he offered his own son’s lives if something happened to Benjamin–there is a picture of Jesus also.) But, Judah in the beginning was rotten.
    There was the Tamar mess, and so on. But,Tamar is one of the 4 women mentioned in the line of Christ.

    Now, God knows all things and does all things correctly.
    This question is not questioning God’s ways, but there is something I must not be seeing here. Can anyone help straighten this out for me?

  53. saled says:

    I don’t know the theological answer to this thought provoking question, bubbles, but the fact that Christ came through the line of Judah and included Tamar gives me hope for my own life. God takes imperfect lives and still works through them.

  54. bubbles says:

    Thank you. Yes, I’ve thought of that, along wuth Ruth who was from Moab, Bathsheba, and Rahab, and how God uses many in spite of their backgrounds. But, was that the only reason, I’ve wondered. It reminds me on a hikihg path that suddenly has a surprise cut off that is not clearly marked. It is something I’ve wondered about. Guess in the grand scheme it is not that important. The story is what it is and God’s ways are perfect. :)

  55. nezzar says:

    OK I’m back While I was gone I think you all prity much said what I was going to say, thanks for finishing my thought for me.

    bubbles,

    Just a thought: going back to my Charismatic roots it could be that Judah’s name means praise and that God comes out of praise. well, maybe that’s not what you are looking for, but it is interesting. I know there is a verse that states why, but I’ll have to do some research to find it again.

  56. SFDBWV says:

    Gary, Jesus the man knew what lay ahead for him, we only know about the passion, crucifixion and subsequent resurrection of Christ. The torment of the passion and cross could have been enough to make any other weep and bleed through their pores.

    But what do we not know about this eternal sacrifice?

    When John is taken up into heaven he sees the Lamb as He was slain at the time of the opening of the seals to commence the tribulation.

    “The Lamb as He was slain,”

    Our time on earth is measured, whereas time in heaven or in torment is unmeasured.

    A sinless man, God in the flesh was about to take on every sin for every single person throughout the history of man.

    His time of anguish in the garden of Gethsemane may not have had an audience at the time, but has had an audience of billions through His Word since.

    Jesus certainly felt loved as he prepared Himself for what lay ahead, because it was His choice to be where He was and knew it was what the Father expected of Him and since we know that the Father, the Son and The Holy Spirit are one, this one act of God was and remains the most pure form of love ever experienced in all of history.

    I hope this helps you understand my thoughts.

    Steve

  57. SFDBWV says:

    Bubbles, I am not entirely certain what it is that troubles you concerning the earthly line of people God used to bring Jesus into being.

    The story of Joseph and his trials is a story of abandonment but never the abandonment of God. I am sure that during the years Joseph was in bondage and especially in prison he questioned whether he was forgotten by God.

    However he remained truthful to the instruction his earthly father had imparted to him concerning God and in so doing all of mankind is blessed.

    Why is the line of Christ through cowards and lesser people as his brother Judah? God blessed Leah and gave her children to comfort her for a husband that did not love her.

    The bride of Christ is given out of a world that rejected their bridegroom. The bride of Christ is made up of cowards and lesser people just like Judah. Just as Joseph loved and forgave Judah, God loves and forgives us, even though we don’t deserve it.

    Just my thoughts Bubbles.

    Steve

  58. foreverblessed says:

    Never thought in those lines Steve. Just to think along, why not Joseph? God chooses, not because of what people have done. Jacob was chosen above his brother before he had done anything good or bad.

    About Jesus, He knew from Psalm 22 what would come. He knew He was going to be deserted. So when He cried out, was it as Steve think He had to do that in order to fulfill the prophecy?
    Or was it indeed very very dreadful to be totally deserted from God. God had to turn His back on Jesus, because of all our sins. All the sins of the whole world had been laid on Jesus, and He was cursed in our stead. Rejected and shut of from God. So even though Jesus knew this would happen, when it happened it was horrific, and He cried out.

    That is why we can meditate on these things, how much Jesus suffered, How much He loved me, and loves us all.

    So when I do not feel loved, I can meditate on how much Jesus did to get me free from the world of darkness.

  59. bubbles says:

    Steve,
    Oh, the thing with Joseph does not trouble me at all.
    It is so interesting and I was just wondering why God chose Judah the way he did, and how Joseph’s life was.
    I taught Joseph’s story as a 4 month unit for 16 years and have studied it each week I taught it. It was just more of interest and thinking. It does not trouble me. :)

    Leah was buried by Jacob in a place of honor–with Abraham, Sarah, Isaac, Rebekah and Jacob. Rachel stole her father’s household idols and lied about it. When she died, she was not buried with the others. . . I have wondered why–was it maybe because she did not truly trust God?

    These are just random wondering thoughts. :) Maybe I think too much.

  60. royalpalm says:

    Hello Bubbles, and others,

    Re: Judah and Tamar (Gen. 38) – Tamar took it upon herself to “seduce” Judah because he was reluctant to give his 3rd son to Tamar because his 2 older sons married to Tamar died. Tamar, however, knew that inorder for Judah,s line to continue, Judah should let his 3rd son marry her according to God’s law (Deut. 25:5), but when he did not, she decided to risk her life to do what she did (v.24). Note that Judah realized that she did a righteous thing. (Gen.38:26)

    Re: Judah and Joseph
    When Jacob died his first born, Reuben was supposed to receive the leadership and the double portion of his estate but Reuben did not receive those because he slept with Bilhah, his father’s concubine and the mother of his siblings. (Gen. 35:22)

    Leadership went to Judah (“praise”) and Judah showed leadership a) he asked that Joseph not be killed but sold as slave instead (Gen. 37:26-27) b) when the brothers went to Egypt he was the spokesman (Gen. 44:14-34) interceding for Benjamin and in v. 33 said, “Now therefore, please let your servant remain instead of the lad as a slave to my lord, and let the lad go up with his brothers.” – foreshadowing what Jesus would do for all mankind – take the cross upon himself to free all mankind.c) Judah’s tribe went first during their wanderings (Num. 10:14) and they first received their lot in the promised land (Josh 15:1) JEWS is a shortened form of Judahites.

    Double Portion went to Joseph – through his 2 sons Ephraim and Manasseh who were counted as 2 tribes of Israel (instead of 1 tribe of Joseph)… During the divided kingdom the land allotted to Ephraim along with the 9 tribes became the northern kingdom of Israel.(While the 2 tribes in the south was called the kingdom of Judah).Although Joseph had similar experiences with Jesus, NT never mentions Joseph as a type of Christ.

    I hope this helps… Incidentally, there is no “feel – love” verses in the Bible but there are “know-love” and “understand – love” …

  61. royalpalm says:

    Further to: Judah and Joseph – why Jesus was from the tribe of Judah and not from Joseph’s – it is because it was what God had planned as He revealed to Jacob at his death bed. Genesis 49:1-28 records Jacob blessing each of his sons. Judah’s blessing includes,
    v 8 “ Judah, you are he whom your brothers shall praise;
    your father’s children shall bow down before you.

    v. 10 The scepter shall not depart from Judah,
    Nor a lawgiver from between his feet,
    Until Shiloh comes;
    And to Him shall be the obedience of the people.”

    (Jewish Talmud lists Shiloh as one of the names for Messiah; Shiloh is also related to Shalom which means peace). Micah 5 which prophesied Bethlehem as the birthplace of Jesus ends with v. 5″ And this One shall be peace. ”

    I hope this helps… blessings.

  62. florida7sun says:

    Best Wishes for a Happy Mother’s Day to all!

  63. SFDBWV says:

    A happy mother’s day to all the mothers out there. A tradition, mothers day, that began right here in West Virginia in Clarksburg for Anna Jarvis.

    I had a great mother, she was all the things one would want in a mom. She was loving, forgiving, supportive, kind, considerate and a Christian. She made certain I was indoctrinated into the faith at an early age.

    She had a tough and poor childhood and worked hard to see to it that we her children did not have to endure the same problems as she did.

    In life I loved her very much and even now I love her and miss her. She has been gone from us for 29 years.

    So for all the mothers out here, I wish you a pleasant and happy mother’s day.

    Feel the love and share it with all.

    Steve

  64. SFDBWV says:

    I have often stated that there are a great many agreements that I see in the Catholic religion and my own thinking. I have began a study of the Eastern Orthodox religion and aren’t that far into it, but I find myself once again in agreement in what I see in that faith.

    Except for the practice of praying for intercession from those they consider already glorified and in God’s presence. Those they consider Saints and of course the Virgin Mary whom they call the Queen of heaven.

    Today as I remember my own mother, I am reminded of the mother of Jesus and her very special place in the story of God and man.

    Indeed she was an exceptional human being, as was Joseph whom God called together to be the parents and care givers of the Christ child.

    So whereas today as mothers are honored, I can find myself honoring the mother of Jesus, however I pull up short on worshiping her

    A misty drizzle at 43 degrees in West Virginia this morning.

    Steve

  65. florida7sun says:

    Thank you for sharing, Steve.

    Another beautiful devotion written by Julie Ackerman Link in today’s ODB.

    The beat of every heart is given by a mother, and life-everlasting is nurtured through love.

    My Mom loved the Lord with all her heart and never said an unkind word. It’s wonderful when Mom’s open their hearts and receive the love and peace only Jesus can provide.

    It’s true. Life is in the blood, and Christ in a mother’s heart in the radiance of His Glory. You see it. You hear it. You feel it. It’s a wonder to behold and to be held.

    Headed towards 92 today.

  66. oneg2dblu says:

    Steve… great mom’s always leave great offspring! :)
    Your thoughts about Jesus’ shedding of blood, are taken by me in the faith you have given them. They are true to the written word. Not contested,here. I by the faith given, see another possible take. I never want to forget this one thought, which is not part of what you have shared,”Sin Always Separates!” So, I agree with foreverblessed on this, Jesus knew, he would be Abandoned, if He took upon himself, all the Immeasurable Enormity of Sin as you have described. Even so, Christ willed to do His Father’s Will above his own, and in that momment of extreme personal sacrifice, he shed his own blood first, as a manifestation of his will being sacrificed, for His Father. The Crucifixion, was a public event, the act of was done by mankind, for men to witness! The weeping, was the God-man, shedding his blood for God his Father, alone! It was the perfection of the ultimate personal relationship being lived out, through the giving up of his own will first! I see two distinctly different crucifixions, and two different sheddings! One extremely personal, one of fulfilling the mission, He Christ, was sent to this earth to fulfill! I’ve do not ever remember being taught this, (or what I had for dinner,) or having heard it spoken before, but feel it as another outpouring of the message,from the always surprising, and ever revealing, Holy Spirit.

    What a gorgeous Mother’s Day, 77 degrees here in Fla.
    Gary

  67. tracey5tgbtg says:

    As Mart said in the opening post, I too have times when I am full of self-condemnation and contempt for others.

    I think those times come when I am in a “works-based” mentality. And yes, when I am contemplating how rotten I am and/or how rotten someone has acted in my view, it is impossible to “feel” the love of God.

    The times I am most aware of the peace and love of God are when I love someone else other than myself. For example, genuine prayer for someone who has hurt me. Forgiveness for someone who does not deserve it. And most of all, focusing on God; loving Him and praising Him, not because He has blessed me and forgiven me, but because He is.

    And even though I KNOW this is true, every day I face temptation to put myself and my feelings first.

    God is love. Whoever lives in love lives in God, and God in him. 1 John 4:16b

  68. nezzar says:

    royalpalm

    You are right to say that there are no feel-love verses.
    However one of the verbs translated as know means to know from expirience. It actually builds faith if you know not just from reading but by expiriencing God’s love. Does that mean that when we haven’t felt or seen the love of God in our own lives that God has stopped loving us? Certainly not. Our faith needs to be founded on the word of God, but seeing someone healed or some other manifestation of the Holy Spirit can put away those nagging little doubts.

  69. poohpity says:

    All I know is Christ’s love, forgiveness, grace, justice and mercy. That is all I can cling to and boast in. If I keep that in mind then my faith and assurance is where it needs to be and my knees get callouses, LOL. :-)

    Although my mom was far from perfect she was the best mom in the world for me. God knew!! I am missing her so very much!!!

  70. Regina says:

    Good Evening All,

    Mart, I think Paul’s prayer is very important because he prayed for us to be born again (to be regenerated in our spirit-man), and to be filled with the Holy Spirit (v. 19, “that you may be filled with all the fullness of God”). He also prayed that we would understand God’s love, be strong in God’s love, and that we would treasure God’s love.

    Believe this is a “prayer” and not just a “strongly expressed feeling” because Paul began the prayer on his knees, and he ended it with the word, “Amen” an expression of agreement or confirmation and could also be translated as, “so be it.”

    Sunny and very warm in Texas today (High: 94 degrees).

  71. Regina says:

    Oh…almost forgot! HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY to all of my fellow BTA bloggers! Hope it was one of the best you’ve ever had!

    Do I feel loved today? I feel VERY loved today! I know, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that God LOVES me and Jesus is my best friend! :-)

  72. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    Because Spring is so early here we had our mothers day over a month ago in March,
    but Happy Mothers day to all in the USA.

    Bob

  73. royalpalm says:

    Thanks Regina and fellow bloggers. I had a very happy Mother’s Day and I hope all the mothers in this BTA had the same…

    Hello, Nezzar, thanks for commenting on my post. What I wanted to say is that I know that God loves me
    regardless of how I feel and that is what matters.

    My feelings are affected by the weather, my health, the circumstances around me, my walk with the Lord, etc.etc.
    But God’s love transcends all these. As God’s children, even in moments when we think we do not see, hear or feel the evidence of God’s love, the truth of His words in 1 John 4:16 assures us, “And we have known and believed the love that God has for us. God is love, and he who abides in love abides in God, and God in him.”

  74. Elaa says:

    Hello,

    It’s so difficult for me to feel unloved by God these days, sometimes, it kind of annoys me. Even when my sentiments say to me, ‘this does not feel like love’, someone I ‘feel’ God’s love. I am weary and worn. And after losing a fourth brother in my less than fifty years of living, among my many other life challenges, I begin to wonder – is this all my life will be about – “How I stood standing in spite off?” I understand that God won’t give one more than one can bear, but I keep thinking a nervous breakdown seems inevitable at this rate. Is this it, Lord? I love Joseph. In my natural self, I cannot imagine how enraged I would have been to have ended up being sold in slavery by my own brothers when I was living the life of ‘favorite’ son, and had all those wonderful dreams. Yet, there he was in the midst of people who clearly did not know his God so that he could have gotten away with being irresponsible – and what does he say? “How can I do this thing and sin against God?” I’m like – Joseph, which God are you talking about? The One who let you get sold into slavery, and who has left you here as a slave without being discovered? That God?! Joseph smiled and said, “Yes, girl, that God. He’s bigger than what happened to me or what is happening to you.” So, I let the big God win. Not because I’m scared of Him but because I know He’s got it all figured out.

    Suicide used to be an option for me. I would talk myself out of it, but it used to show up as an option for consideration. Now, it never shows up – not even just so it can be discarded. It just never shows up. And it’s because even when I’m not ‘feeling’ loved by God, I know He loves me. So, I live my challenges. And pray. And pray.

  75. SFDBWV says:

    Elaa, I loved the honesty of you own life feelings, too often we here get caught up in quoting scripture or how we understand scripture. However the reality of living is that this world and this existence can be a living hell.

    Our only hope in a seeming silent and unseen God, in ancient writings by a handful of men who witnessed an event so life changing that it not only changed them but changed the world and all of civilization for ever.

    I think the answer to Mart’s question would be “no” that most of the time we do not “feel” loved from God. That too often we feel abandoned or worse that He is unconcerned with our pain.

    This is what happens when we take our eyes off of Him and look only at the world around us. We lose our compass and confidence, and as Peter did begin to sink in our sea of troubles.

    Clear blue skies and 34 degrees this morning.

    Steve

  76. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, thanks Eela for telling your story. We often do not feel loved because of siblings handling us in a wrong way. Like Joseph was mistreated by his brothers. Maybe yo ucould say he deserved it by being so cocky, but in fact his brothers acted violantly even criminal. We often desire love from the people who offended us. But in the case of Joseph, this was not possible. We must learn to look at God instead, and wait. And in the wating on God our hearts are transformed.

    But I was hard learning, I looked to the sibling and expected love from them. Yesterday I found out that the person is still angry at me, that I did things wrong. (they have offended you, and you have to apologise!)
    It must have been the same with the brothers of Joseph.
    They took ages and ages to change. God knows them, He is with them. It is too much for us to handle.
    Not even the famine was enough to get them to realise what they had done. Josep had to test them more then once.(Genesis 44)
    It is best to wait for God to act, and in the waiting we get stronger and stronger. Not that we be strong of ourselves, but in hoping for God, we grow stronger in Him.

    Psalm 27:`14 Wait for the Lord,
    be strong and take heart
    and wait for the Lord.

  77. cherielyn says:

    SFDBVW – Steve,

    I thought I responded to your post, but in reviewing, I can’t find it. I was having computer problems off and on, so perhaps it didn’t go through because of that.

    Anyway, the jist of what I said was that I was appreciative of your comments. As you stated, “we share similar pain.”

    I have followed “Been Thinking About” for several years, as time allows. Sometimes I miss a couple of months. Your posts are always helpful and when you responded to mine, a few days ago, I really felt the Christian love.

    I want you to know that you & Matt have been in my prayers ever since I found this blog.

    In Christ’s Love,

    Cheryl

  78. SFDBWV says:

    Cheryl, I fully understand, communicating on this blog sometimes is very frustrating. I am usually here early in the morning then hit and miss the remainder of the day, but never able to be here in the evening. So sometimes people will ask or comment to me and I never know it until the next morning or worse the topic changes and I never know at all.

    I like the life stories people tell here, the real life drama of dealing with the raw nature of life, and how they are able to overcome or sometimes not the pressures of living.

    We all fall down and we all bleed red, it is something any of us can relate to when we share the difficult goings and comings of life.

    I had sent Mart a picture of a bush that grows outside our living room window, it is situated just behind Matt’s big lazy boy chair.

    The bush for 25 years only produced a few little red blooms but never any fruit. These past 12 years and especially since Glenna came the bush had began to grow and each year filled with more blooms and has produced little yellow apples that have a very pleasant aroma. When brought into the house the little fruit does not mold or rot but dries into a sweet smelling substance.

    I have grown to realize that this bush stands in quiet witness to the drama of our life as it hears our prayers and tears, and as a result has begun to grow and produce fruit.

    Another lesson we can learn from the “nature”of God.

    Steve

    PS Mart and I have had difficulty transfering the picture to his computer.

  79. poohpity says:

    Well today I am feeling frustrated. Over the weekend the zoo(pets) and I moved to a new apartment. I over did it and ended up in the emergency room Saturday night, then as I am looking around today all my pots and pans have disappeared and the clean up still has to be finished in the old apartment and I can barely move. If it ain’t one thing it is another, lol. I guess no pots and pans means no cooking and if I can not clean the old apartment then I lose my deposit. As Steve said, “no, not feeling loved today” there is a big ditto from me too.

    Yesterday my youngest took me to lunch and a movie of someone elses choice but we had a great time. One out of three wished me a happy mother’s day. I just better stop here because obviously my frustration is coming out in everything I am saying. Just goes to show ya don’t it, if I feel loved then I would act in love but I am feeling frustration so I am picking on every little detail to find fault.

  80. oneg2dblu says:

    Feeling loved today? If love depended on our feelings alone, we would spend many days in the exile of this grand unknown. But, it does not depend on us feeling it, any more than it depends on whether others feel it from us. If they refuse to feel, has the love we’ve shown been worthless?
    Does it not count, when a Mother is on her knees praying for the wayward child, who does not recognize her, or anything else,other than themselves?
    No, love always transends our flesh, if it is freely given for others, and not given for a return.
    Love’s Ideal, is to remove the flesh, and allow the spirit within us, to show how God would want us to Love
    Others. That is the key to loving as He loves!
    For God so loved the world…for He died to self in the flesh through His Son, to give all for us, what we do not deserve, but are Commanded to Obey! Love Others…

  81. Elaa says:

    Thanks Steve and foreverblessed.

    Steve, I guess you are right – those moments of feeling unloved in this real world do exist. But there is always that “knowing” on the inside that in some way overrides the feeling. That I suspect is why Matt still believes in praying to God even if only for others. Some people, like the holocaust survivor in this thread, would not even permit the mention of the letter “G” to their hearing! But what can one say? I know what I say, ‘Somehow, somehow,this all makes sense to God. And that would have been the real shame – if God is somewhere sitting as puzzled as I am. Thankfully, that will never be the case.’

    Belated mother’s day greetings, poohpity!:) Enjoy your new place. Eat out for the next couple of days – just stay away from the junk food!

  82. poohpity says:

    Elaa, Thank you. lol I am pretty into Humus and Pita chips and PB with crackers. I found my pots and pans they were right in front of my face. Goes to show ya don’t it. :-)

  83. bubbles says:

    It’s sad to see those take their mother for granted. Mothers are only around for a short time. They will not be here forever. I canot understand how any one can take either parent for granted. Treasure every moment you can with those you love. Life is short.

    Even though my mother has been gone for almost 34 years, her absence was deeply felt yesterday more than it has been in awhile.

    What I would give to have five minutes with her right now. But, it would be selfish to wish her back. She is in heaven which is far better than here.

  84. cherielyn says:

    Feeling very loved! Had a wonderful Mother’s Day. Two of my son’s took me & hubby out for dinner. My mentally handicapped son could not join us because he was not feeling well.

    My daughter, who lives out of town and is wrapping up a semester of school, did not send a card, but called the day before to tell me she hadn’t had time to shop for one. I told her it was fine, reminding her that on several previous occasions she sent me two because she couldn’t decide which one she like best, so bought & sent both. This is a first for her. I know her heart so was not hurt at all. We have a wonderful relationship.

    One of my son’s made me a computer card that brought such joy to my heart. I just have to share what he wrote in it, because it is too wonderful not to share. If you see errors, it is because I am copying it as he wrote it. Errors don’t matter. It’s the thought that counts. Here’s what he wrote:

    “Mom,
    Thank you for all you do and have done. You have always been there for me and in my greatest times of need you have always been willing to put my welfare before your own. Most of all I thank you for raising me with faith in Jesus, which truly is the greatest gift you have ever given to me because a life filled with things and celebrations is utterly meaningless if followed by an eternity of condemnation seperated from Christ. I hope today will be a happy day for you and always know how much you mean to me, cause words just can’t describe it!!

    Love,
    Brian”

    He does not save words of that nature just for Mother’s Day, either. He expresses similar thoughts to me throughout the year. Yes, feeling very loved!

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