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What Else is God Hiding?

To Remember what God has Hidden

In our last post we saw how a proverb can help us reflect on the wisdom and ways of our God. By giving us a saying that functions like a riddle, our minds are stretched to consider more than one possibility.

Yesterday we thought together about the proverb “It is the glory of God to conceal a matter, But the glory of kings is to search out a matter.” (Prov 25:2)

We began by saying that students of the Bible seem to generally agree about the meaning of the second part of this proverb. It seems apparent that it is to the glory of kings to fully investigate the concerns and complaints of their citizens so that their government will be based on the foundations of justice.

But what about the first part of this wise saying. How is it to God’s glory to conceal a matter? What is it good for him to hide?

Many of our thoughts went to the way God tests our faith by wisely withholding from us knowledge of the future and the inexpressible understanding and power by which he works in countless and immeasurable means behind the scenes for our good.

In the process,  however, some seemed troubled a bit by our willingness to focus on what God has hidden (withheld) from us rather than what he has revealed (given). So let’s stay with it for awhile longer.

There’s at least one more way of looking at what God is hiding. Think about what our Creator did soon after speaking into existence a visible world that has always been an evidence of his invisible glory. At the moment our first parents stepped down from their position of created honor (often called our Fall), our Creator stepped up to reveal a glory even greater what he had already revealed.

When our parents sinned, God’s first act was to mercifully give them skins to cover their loss of innocence.

This was the first indication of God’s willingness to cover sin and bury it in the deepest sea, as far as the east is from the west (Psa 53:12), (Isa 43:25).

The word used in the Bible for what God did to cover over our sins is “atonement”.  In the widely used Strongs Lexicon of Hebrew words we get this range of meaning for “atonement”:

3722 rp;K’ kaphar {kaw-far’}
Meaning:  1) to cover,  purge, make an atonement,  make reconciliation, cover  over with pitch 1a) (Qal) to  coat or cover with pitch 1b)  (Piel) 1b1) to cover over,  pacify, propitiate 1b2) to  cover over, atone for sin,  make atonement for 1b3) to  cover over, atone for sin  and persons by legal rites  1c) (Pual) 1c1) to be  covered over 1c2) to make  atonement for 1d) (Hithpael)  to be covered.

What it took for God to cover over, conceal, and hide our sins under redemptive blood (the price of a life for a life), seems to be in the background when Jesus prays hours before his crucifixion, that the Father would glorify him with the glory that was his before the world was created” (John 17:5).

Was Jesus at this point thinking beyond the cross, resurrection, and ascension to the moment when he would be returned to his place at the right hand of his Father? That’s possible. But my guess is that he was actually referring to glory of his eternal goodness that would be revealed in the lengths he was about to go to cover our sins at the infinite price of his own suffering and death.

I say this in part because later, in his restoring conversation with the Apostle who had denied him with curses, Jesus spoke to Peter about the death by which Peter would eventually glorify God (John 21:19).

Certainly, if Peter was going to glorify God by the way he was going to eventually die, Jesus must have made the ultimate statement of the glory of God by the way he died to make it possible for the eternal God to hide forever, the worst (and all) of our sin.

What do you think? Am I missing something, or just beginning to see another way (maybe the ultimate way?) in which it is to God’s glory to conceal a matter?

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34 Responses to “What Else is God Hiding?”

  1. gerpie says:

    Thank you Mart – now I feel better. :) God is hiding all of my sin – through the price Jesus Christ has paid.


  2. SFDBWV says:

    “What *Else* is God Hiding”

    In first Part Mart let me assure you that you are missing nothing as this is your question in which you already have an answer in mind.

    I think some or most of us looked at the first question as an overall question and thus answered it as such in general terms attempting to encompass all we may know and the unanswerable unknown of what we don’t.

    Most Christians have come to learn that Christ is hidden all throughout the scripture, especially there in the Garden as indicated from God in a blood sacrifice for sin, that an innocent had to die in order to cover sin and that this ultimate covering would be from the descendants of Adam and Eve.

    Even hidden in the punishment given Eve is the fact that woman would produce the Christ apart from man, so we can understand now that His Father would be the Holy Spirit Himself. God made it possible for woman to be pregnant without sex and so entered this world as a man. All this hidden is scripture in a few words.

    Christ is also hidden all over scripture which is why Jesus said that the volume of the Book is written of Him.

    All of these hidden mysteries are for the finding whether it be the poorest among us or kings, all to the glory of God.

    I will admit I see no revelation in God’s glory as to the method in which Peter died, reportedly crucified upside down. Except given the fact that Peter died because he was a disciple of Christ, taught and led others to accept Jesus as Christ, I am not sure I understand how this glorifies God, unless;

    I read once that glory can also be interpreted as responsibility. If I look at the matter from this explanation, I can see a very different understanding of the statement, as Peter’s obedience to God and faith in Jesus Christ even unto his death becomes the responsibility of God. God is responsible for Peter’s death.

    That responsibility or glory then is given to God to see that full justice is done concerning the matter. Full justice being in the realm of God’s perfect ability to revenge, forgive, and reward all those involved in the process of this one single act of the death of Peter.

    If we look at glory as responsibility suddenly we see clearer God and His understanding that even in our failures He is responsible to see to it that we can find a way to be forgiven and restored, because only He is able to accomplish this task.

    Hidden? Maybe, but then maybe we just are a bit short sighted and do not really understand God and His love for us His children and creation.


  3. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart & Friends!

    Mart, you wrote:

    “But my guess is that he was actually referring to glory of his eternal goodness that would be revealed in the lengths he was about to go to cover our sins at the infinite price of his own suffering and death.”

    It seems to me we in our created beings do not easily grasp the glory of our God. It is obscured by our being finite and by our holding tight to the world God has made for us. When the church leaders of Jerusalem questioned Jesus about a healing he had performed, he engaged them in disputation. He told them, “I can do nothing on my own. As I hear, I judge; and my judgment is just, because I seek to do not my own will but the will of him who sent me.” (John 5:30)

    As the argument developed, Jesus asked them (us) outright, “How can you believe when you accept glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the one who alone is God?” (John 5:44) True glory is answered by utter praise, worship and adoration. Only God’s glory has that place anywhere. There is no *place* for all out worship except in God’s presence.

    The “kingdom, the power and the glory” of God are so great that he performs acts of salvation infinitely profound: “the hour is coming, and is now here, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear will live. “ Jesus said, “For just as the Father has life in himself, so he has granted the Son also to have life in himself; and he has given him authority to execute judgment, because he is the Son of Man.” (John 5:25-27) Sacrifice of animals is a “meanwhile” substitution in atonement. When the Son of Man publicly and willingly sacrifices himself, the entire cosmos is redeemed out of death to life.


  4. saled says:

    Colossians 3:3+4 “For you died and your life is now hidden with Christ in God. When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.”

    God is hiding us. I think of this sometimes, think of the people living quiet, obedient, humble lives who are often looked down upon by those who appear to be living interesting, exciting lives. I know lots of these humble people, and I can’t wait to see their glory revealed with Christ’s return.

  5. jam200 says:

    Hi All: Thinking about Peter’s death and Jesus’ revealing that in advance to Peter demonstrates Peter’s obedience and faithfulness to die that way. In a sense, his obedience brings glory to God. The question for us is if the way we were to die revealed to us in advance, would we stay the course.

    For example, if you knew that your grandson or daughter was going to die a violent death unless you renounced your faith and belief in Christ or else you would die, what would you do? I’m not sure we know.

    That’s Proverbs 3:5-6 is so important.

    I don’t worry about what God has kept or revealed. My part is to be obedient. “To obey is better than sacrifice.”

    Cheers from warm Calgary.

  6. florida7sun says:

    Due to its nature blood flows and touches every cell in the body. Blood heals and cleanses. It brings restoration. “For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life.” – Leviticus 17:11

    The life of our Incarnate Savior is in the blood of God our Father. Every expression of the Word of God contains the Precious Blood of His Son. Turning the tissue paper of my Bible, the blood flows and brings renewal of mind, body and soul.

    I am one with Our Father and He rejoices to hear my prayer. He knows what I need even before I pray as Jesus taught – Matthew 6:5-15

    The blood flows and enriches the Body. “I in them and you in me. May they be brought to complete unity to let the world know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.” – John 17:23

    We are fed by His Word and cleansed by the Blood of Our Father shed by His Son.

    We are then one in His Body transcending the dimensions of time, space and matter.

    Through love and light Father, Son and Holy Spirit bring forth wisdom, knowledge and understanding.

    The fountain of blood continues to flow. – John 3:16


  7. florida7sun says:

    Giving thought to the nature of Peter’s crucifixion, my thoughts took me to Matthew 16:18-19: “And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades will not overcome it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.”

    When I was a child I lay on my back and gazed into the heavens. Clouds rolled by during the day and stars glistened at night. There was wonderment and awe in the vastness of space and creation. There still is. In our natural state we will never comprehend the omniscience, omnipotence, and omnipresence of Our Father.

    The cross of our Lord and Savior was implanted in the earth, and His Shed Blood split into the ground. Our sin led to His Death. Sin always leads to death (i.e. the killing of Abel by Cain) repeated throughout the ages.

    The cross of Peter was implanted in the heavens, for there (beyond our physical sight) the Body of Christ resides with His Father. The blood of Our Lord gives life to the Body (i.e. the killing of Stephen looking up to see the Glory of God) and the death of all believers.

    His Glory and Majesty is the rock upon which the Church is built.

    I need to “always look up and be in His Word,” for Our Lord and Savior is the Rock upon which His Church is built and the Rock upon which Peter’s cross was implanted.


  8. poohpity says:

    Was there a purpose in revealing the way Peter would die and then refuse to tell Peter the way John would die (John 21:22)? I would think it was because Peter was going through a restoration process with Jesus so to concentrate on somebody else at the time shows us that the Lord deals with each of us personally.

    I think the ultimate Glory to God is just to trust what he has given each of us and not to read more into it than is there. Some say Peter was killed for his faith but knowing he was going to die when he wrote 2 Peter he points out the most important thing for us to do is get to know God better and better 2 Peter 1:5-8 and reminds us to not look beyond the present and the things that God has chosen not to hide.

  9. bill34sl says:

    What else is God hiding? Certainly, one immensely important date of one of the most popular future event is one of the things God did not intend for us to know. Even His Son Jesus Christ while still on earth was not exempted. “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. As it was in the days of Noah so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man. (Matt.24:36-37) After Jesus’ resurrection, He repeated these same words to His inquisitive disciples. He said to them: “It is not for you to know the times and dates the Father has set by His own authority” (Acts 1:6-8). The same is true for the date when the Restrainer is to be taken away (most probably in the Rapture), to reveal the lawless one (2 Thess.2:6-8). Time and again religious people true to their intent, predicted and keep predicting dates and times like these only to fail with big embarassment. Notwithstanding, we are not left in complete darkness, the prophets and our Lord Jesus Christ gave us clues regarding these matters. He told us just to be ready at all times,not at one specific time. As for the other things still withheld from ur knowledge, they will be revealed at their appointed time. Luke 12:2 says “There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed,or hidden that will not be known”.

  10. oneg2dblu says:

    What else? I would say God has hidden himself to all those who do not currently See Him, Seek Him, and Serve Him. He has blinded many eyes to His Presence.
    I would so love to enjoy the greater thoughts of all the Spiritually Dead coming to Him to live in Eternity with Him Forever, but He has choosen to hide that greater vision from many. I see only the multitudes of unbelievers who will perish for their unbelief. The multitudes of disobedient who will perish for their disobedience, and the multitudes of the churches and religions who are now misleading many into believing their false doctines.
    Anyone who does not ask God directly for His Truth,
    will not find it by attending any religious event, or by reading any religious book. The truth can only come from the one source of all truth. God alone gives us His Truth. His Spirit gives godly definition to common
    Truth is what is hidden everywhere, except where you ask God to show it to you.
    Unfortunately, about 98% of those living today, are not asking the right source, to help them find their truth.
    That is also a large part of the What Else!
    What a same that we have the truth, and they don’t, because we do not always obey His Great Command, they do not know what we do… as we carry our own Hidden Truth! Gary

  11. gerpie says:

    Gary – why are you so angry and condemning???

  12. bratimus says:

    Consealing a matter could be different from hidding a matter.

    God may conceal wisdom and knowledge from us, we might not be ready or disciplined in these matters.

  13. florida7sun says:

    Hi Gerpie:

    I do not sense anger and condemnation in Gary’s comments, but heartfelt concern that we all come to knowledge of the Truth and share the Gospel.

    Jesus spoke of a sin that is unpardonable: “All manner of sin and blasphemy shall be forgiven unto men: but the blasphemy against the Holy Ghost shall not be forgiven unto men.” – Matthew 12:31

    The Holy Spirit continually convicts the world of sin and prompts each of us to confess our sins to the Lord, repent and seek His forgiveness.

    The Shed Blood of Our Lord and Savior is Precious beyond Measure. Rejecting the promptings of the Holy Spirit leads to hardening of the heart. The Spirit’s voice will no longer be heard and the Blood of Our Savior will no longer flow. The plaque of sin will then lead to death.

    God’s Love for His Son is Pure Love. It cleanses and gives life.

    There are some that claim all will be saved regardless of their trampling on the Blood of Christ and mocking of the Holy Spirit. Scripture tells us otherwise.

    Psalm 95:7-8 and 1 Timothy 4:1-2 come to mind.

    There is a wilderness within man’s structure of church as well as man’s opinion of himself.

    Like Lucifer we were created with individual freedom of choice. We are free to obey the Lord and Live, or reject the Lord and Die. God desires All should live. – John 3:16

    The choice is ours to make. He loves us that much.

    I hear Gary’s voice as one of John the Baptist pleading that we hear the Holy Spirit and repent so that our prayers may be heard and the desires of our hearts come to fruition in Christ.

    Love, Ray

  14. SFDBWV says:

    I am offering a somewhat different look at the word “atonement” as given in Strong’s Exhaustive Concordance in the Hebrew and Chaldee dictionary.

    3722 or plural 3725 kaphar; to cover (with natural asphalt or pitch), to expiate or condone, to placate or cancel; appease, make atonement, cleanse, disannul, forgive, be merciful, pacify, pardon, to pitch, purge away, reconcile, make reconciliation.

    In 2 Corinthians 5: 21 Paul says that God made Jesus to *be* sin for us.

    I do not think that God is hiding Christ from us, if I am to accept that Jesus became sin for us I can clearly understand then that through His sinless existence he accepted all of our sins into Himself and as an act of sacrifice then our sins are forgiven, pardoned and cast away not to be remembered again…not hidden.

    The very first act of seeking forgiveness is bringing our sins to mind and confessing them before God. God’s forgiveness erases sin, it dose not conceal it; or does it?

    Unless we believe that any act of men has an eternal existence that can not be totally destroyed only changed into something else; as in the physical world no element can be utterly destroyed, only changed into something else.

    If that is the case then our sin would have to be either hidden away in some secret place or changed into a different spiritual element.

    In this world if we attempt to utterly destroy something we burn it in a fire so hot as to make it forever unrecognizable. However we have only changed it into ashes, smoke and gases.

    I wonder if in the great lake of fire God has in store for sin, it is also changed into another state of spiritual existence, forever hidden from view or recognizable again.


  15. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Steve!

    You wrote:

    “I wonder if in the great lake of fire God has in store for sin, it is also changed into another state of spiritual existence, forever hidden from view or recognizable again.”

    This is right at the heart of God’s omnipotence and sovereignty, as I see it. So often the prophets say that no unclean thing will have existence in the New Jerusalem (or Zion, or God’s holy mountain).

    My Bible brain immediately latched onto that wonderful passage from the Song of Songs (Song of Songs 8:6-7). The fire of God’s love is a consuming force!

    The pillar of fire (and cloud) that led and guarded the Israelites through the Sinai is such a manifestation (Deuteronomy 9:3).

    The writer of Hebrews states again the fiery nature of our God. Hearing the heavenly voice (Hebrews 12:25) is essential. Being attentive to God in Christ — I would say being attentive and obedient to Scripture — keeps the believer awake, full of conscience, repentant and cleansed — and thereby preserved through the shaking that is taking place (Hebrews 12:26-27).

    “Therefore, since we are receiving a kingdom which cannot be shaken, let us have grace, by which we may serve God acceptably with reverence and godly fear. For our God is a consuming fire.” (Hebrews 12:28-29)


  16. SFDBWV says:

    Well said Maru.

    I was thinking as writing this morning how Christ showed up in the fiery furnace to protect Shadrach, Meshach, and Abed-nego (Daniel 3: 25) and how Christ could walk unscathed through the fire.

    Perhaps this is what also occurs whereas Christ becomes sin for us then as He walks through the fires of hell sin is consumed but He is not. Without Him with us and now in us the fire would consume both the sin in us as well as we with it.

    All the while sin not actually hidden from us but consumed by a purifying fire.


  17. oneg2dblu says:

    Steve, you’ve hit a nerve about the elemental existance of things that only change but do not become completly hidden, or disappear. As they only “change in part” but still exist in another form.
    So it is with our sin, which has an elemental existance in this physical world, and the only component that changes is the spiritual aspect of that sin, when you recognize it as sin, and repent to only be forgiven.
    The physical part remains to be seen, like a scar from an old injury you have caused. But, the spirit that brought that sin to fruition came from inside you. Is that is the only part that changes? The part is unseen? Until you repent of your past physical acts or nature, your old walk, that which caused you to sin in the first place, nothing outwardly changes. If nothing outwardly changes,then inwardly have we really changed?
    Total repentance is in both the physical and the spiritual realms. Just like Christ operated in both, we must also follow Him.
    We cannot show the world around us, this Jesus is us, unless we walk in our new life, with our renewed mind, spirit and body. Then the fruit of the spirit is seen by all!
    Beliefs centered on the savalvation of the spirit alone,
    do not change the world around us, or change us either.
    We must change our walk, and not just our words claiming we are Saved!
    There is never any pleasure, (to me), found in a any fallen Christian, covering up their fallen acts by claiming they are already forgiven because Jesus died for them.
    That is religious doctrinal teaching has certainly fallen short, as there is no showing of a real realionship in outward obedience to God’s Word.
    There is no external elemental change, as sin still rules their life. That is their worldly god, showing their still serving him in sin, not Our Almighty God showing He has Forgiven them, because they once repented!
    I’m not speaking of perfection, I’m speaking only to this point, “If nothing changes,nothing changes!”
    If the world continues to see us as no different from them, how do we ever show them they need to change?
    Aren’t all the elements connected?
    Could you imagine what this world would look like if even the 2% who are actually Saved, continued to walk their old way? Total depravity, and nothing else would be seen in this world!
    We must continue to make a “Stand of Christ” in our walk, that this world can physically see!
    Opinions are filled with words, but a walk is heard by all! Gary

  18. gerpie says:

    Hi Ray –

    Thanks for all that you wrote this morning – explaining what you sense Gary being concerned about.

    Your first paragraph ended with the “sharing of the Gospel.” I read everything you said quite a few times this morning – and in the end all I can say (as with Gary’s comments) – is – where is the sharing of the Gospel of Jesus Christ???

    Again – thank you for your comments.


  19. remarutho says:

    Yes Steve!

    The passage from Daniel 3 you cited:

    “and the appearance of the fourth is like a son of the gods.”

    Makes me wonder also — I hope in some helpful way — whether this “son of the gods” would be entirely present but invisible outside the furnace. Being in the fire with the three Israelites, he is manifested in the flame and extreme heat.

    Not that our salvation hangs on such an idea — but it is awesome! Makes me wonder about the shekinah glory of our God…”Fire, fire, fire!” as Blaise Pascal said four hundred years ago. Then, perhaps, the “blinding light” of God’s presence…

    In Him,

  20. SFDBWV says:

    Maru, I am also reminded of the description of Christ John gives in Revelation 1: 13-16.

    Eyes as a flame of fire, feet as if fine brass burned in a furnace and His countenance as the sun shineth.

    This type of glory is surely the Shekinah glory and the blinding light Pascal speaks of as well as perhaps what Paul seen on the road to Damascus.

    Nothing as you say to do with our salvation, but enjoyable to see the many facets of God.


  21. poohpity says:

    Mart, as I was reading this morning the proverb we discussed in the last topic came to better light for me. I was thinking that as kings search out answers for the wisdom they need to rule their kingdoms but it is not for God’s glory but by their wisdom for lording their knowledge over those they rule. (Mark 10:42-43)

    Jesus did not hide from His disciples what was about to take place as they entered Jerusalem but then they began to argue among themselves about who would become greater in God’s kingdom (Mark 10:35-40). I wonder if the reason God conceals so much from us is, would we want to continue if we knew what lies ahead? or what would we do with the information?. If as humans we tend to seek honor and glory for ourselves with the things revealed to us than would it not be better to hide things. Would it not be actually helping us to not know some things?

    The one thing that Jesus did not hide was who He is and knowing who He is shows us that he did not cling to that Glory but came as a servant to give His life as an ransom for many (Mark 10:45). So what do we do with the things that are not hidden from us? It seems we argue, debate, divide, become self righteous and feel superior so why would God reveal anything else if our hearts are not in a place to receive those revelations.

  22. foreverblessed says:

    After meditating on Proverbs 25:2 on Saturday night, it occurred to me too that this concealing had to do with sins, as it is contrasted with kings who have to search out things. Reading Mart’s new topic, he brought us to the same place, and I am very glad for that!
    (So as christians we have to go to court with sins committed that have a penalty, no cover up, like the childabuse cases that were not taken to court.)
    If you go on with the word conceal, it maybe not enough, as God takes them away, they are gone, as Steve wrote. But still this must be the main point of the proverb.
    It is Jesus who swallowed our sins and died to them.
    (When seeing the film: “the Mask”,1994 when the main character swallows the bombs, and they explode in his stomach, it always reminded me of Jesus, that’s what He did, the difference is that Jesus swallowed the sins and dies.)
    It is our sins that killed Jesus. But what a glory, He did this with full joy, knowing how many sons and daughters He would save.
    God is so glad we repented and are saved, He is very very happy with us, even with the fact that it is a process of refining.

  23. oneg2dblu says:

    gerpie… sorry for the harsh words. If I only knew better! Gary

  24. gerpie says:

    Gary… it’s not that your words were so harsh – but thank you for the apology anyway.

    It was that to me it seems you talk all over the place about Truth – as if it is somewhere other than in God’s Word – the Bible. God has given us His Word so that we might seek Him in His Word. (Forgive me if I did not understand what you were saying – but this is what I got from all that you said).

    Again – thank you for your answer to my comment.


  25. Mart De Haan says:

    Yes, there are a number of ways to look at this aren’t there.

  26. Mart De Haan says:

    I also think the discussion about whether hiding or “covering” wrongs amounts to the injustice of cover-up is very important.

    Seems to me that one way to turn forgiveness into a moral evil is to use it as a way to avoid “just” and necessary exposure and accountability.

  27. poohpity says:

    I do not think that God ever meant that because of what Christ did in covering or atoning for our wrongs that puts us a place to not admit them. It is bringing them to light or exposing them that we are held accountable and understand the need for the covering. I do not feel we can ever hide anything from God but in our feeble attempts to look “just” to others we can believe that even our inner most sins, the sins of our heart and thoughts are often hidden from others.

    There seems to be times when we think we are getting by with the secrets we hold so dear but in the end they all come out in some way. If we truly love each other we should hope that another will help us in admitting the nature of our wrongs then help us work through them and bring them into the light. Only in admitting or confessing them can we find true forgiveness and healing.

    There are many who never admit when they do things wrong because it seems, they think, weak when in reality it is the only way to bring about change.

  28. remarutho says:

    Hello Mart & Friends —

    The wholeness of the atonement (kaphar) has not yet been revealed. It seems to me the immense image of the “sword of the Word” (Psalm 149:6-7; Ephesians 6:17-18; Hebrews 4:12) describes the working of God’s will. That work is an entire work that is not now completed in those who believe and trust in him.

    The kingdom is here now — yet, Christ, whose blood washes the garments of the saints to pure whiteness, will appear triumphant. He is King of kings and Lord of lords (Revelation 19:16). He does not hold a sharp sword in his hand. Rather, it “goes out of his mouth.” (v. 15)

    “He had a name that no one knew except himself” (Revelation 19:12) NKJV. It seems that “Faithful and True” plus “Word of God” are names that have been revealed; but there is a name we do not know. Only Christ knows his name that is written. I do not think we could read or understand that name even if we saw or heard it. That word or words are concealed (sealed ?).

    Those who wait for him are called to believe in him and to “hold fast” (Revelation 3:11) — to “be faithful until death” (Revelation 2:10). Jesus, apparently, will personally come and gather those who endure and persevere.

    For me, one of the most mysterious promises we have from our triumphant Christ is, “I will write on him the name of My God and the name of the city of My God, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My God. And I will write on him My new name.” (Revelation 3:12)

    The Word is not yet fulfilled in the one who believes in Jesus Christ — in those for whom atonement has been made, nor in the world. The blood of Christ is still working, and there are aspects of the working that are yet to be revealed.


  29. oneg2dblu says:

    pooh… I think 1 John 1:9 speaks about “who” we need to be confessing to. I think a truely humble heart finds its place of confession in the prayer closet, confessing to the one who can change the heart, not on the soap box of the world, where all the attention of self claims about our humility are seen, and where pride also finds its claim. Just a thought… IMHO :) Gary

  30. oneg2dblu says:

    maru… great digs on those verses that hide so much from us today. Look how we run around now, claiming our Christianity for ourselves, while hiding God from others at the same time. He who knows our heart, knows better than to give us a godly badge of honor, as pride marches on so deceptively hidden today. Gary

  31. poohpity says:

    Gary, if you will search the scriptures you find that confessing our sins to others is also very important. Here are just a few you can examine; Lev 5:5; Numbers 5:7; Nehemiah 9:1-3; Proverbs 28:13; Acts 19:18 and James 5:16. This is not my thoughts or opinions it comes from the pages of scripture. :-)

  32. poohpity says:

    Gary, I was also considering that pride comes when we do not openly admit to our weaknesses and sins. If we have harmed someone and do not go to them and admit to that harm and ask for forgiveness then does that not show pride. To admit we do not know things is also pride. To think we are without sin is also pride. Only a humble person will admit to sin or being wrong or not knowing everything. Confession is admitting openly that we fall short in many areas so by what you say that is prideful and I guess in some ways it can be especially if we are trying to bring light to our own thoughts and opinions rather than to the saving grace and mercy of our Lord.

  33. tominfredericksburg1 says:

    Scaffolding, God hides the scaffolding. We see the flower not how it was made. Even looking in the DNA we might not understand the Scaffolding.

  34. poohpity says:

    I wonder tom if God even uses scaffolding because He alone has the ability to speak things into being but I agree we do not see the microscopic details that hold life together. :-)

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