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How “Knowing God” Could Sound Proud

In our last post we looked at a number of questions that might be raised in response to the idea of “a personal relationship with God”. Your comments have been  good. So I’m taking a chance of wearing you out by repeating some of what you’ve said in my own take.

But I’ll test your patience in thinking about a subject that I suspect may be more  important than those of us who have grown up with the idea might realize.

The first question was,

Can we understand why some would think it is arrogant to hear us talk about knowing God?

If we could hear us as others do, it might occur to us that familiar references to God could sound like the ultimate form of name-dropping.

Imagine being on the “outside” and hearing people like us refer not only to our own personal relationship with God, but also referring to  “outsiders” as “sinners, godless, unbelievers, unsaved”.

Like the “cleanness” laws of Levitical law, a lot of our language  (righteous, holy, sanctified, saved etc) could sound both self-righteous and proud.

Our Lord seems to have been alluding to a religious blind spot when he described the behavior of the Levite and Priest who passed by a robbed and beat up man on the Road to Jericho. The two religious professionals who passed by without helping would have seen themselves as part of a “holy”, “chosen people” who knew their God. They also may have been obsessed with the Temple oriented laws of ritual cleanness. But the Samaritan who helped apparently had no ethnic bias or fear of contamination that got in the way of helping someone in need.

In a Temple oriented, first century context, Jesus’ own example of touching lepers, beggars and gentiles, together with his desire to be a friend of those religious people regarded as siners, might deserve to be thought of as one of his “sign miracles”. To be a part of the religious bias and practice of his day, it would have taken a work of the Spirit of God to care for those religious people regarded not only as unclean—but even more animal-like than human.

If there’s any truth to the above, we might then see why some people try to avoid those who act as if God is on their side. Why would they want to be around people who, from their point of view, see God as part of the universe that revolves around them?

That’s also probably enough of the negative take. Let’s try to look at this in a positive way.

Even though the words “personal relationship” don’t show up in most editions of the Old or New Testaments, many of you, in prior comments showed that the idea of whether or not we know our God shows up often.

Within the first few pages of Genesis, the God of creation is walking and talking with the man and woman he has made in his own likeness. Later, long after most of the family has turned its back on their Maker, the first book of the Bible continues take note of a few who are still walking with God (Gen 5:24; 6:9).

Then at one dark and difficult moment of history, God seems to actually encourage those who take pride in knowing him. In 6th century BC, the prophet Jeremiah quotes the Lord as saying, “Let not the wise man boast of his wisdom or the strong man boast of his strength or the rich man boast of his riches, but let him who boasts boast about this: that he understands and knows me that I am the Lord, who exercises kindness, justice and righteousness on earth, for in these I delight,” declares the Lord (Jer 9:23-24).

So does the prophet Jeremiah really say that the God of the Bible approves of those who drop his name for their own benefit? 

A first look Jeremiah’s quote of God might leave that impression. But something else is going on here.

A closer look shows that the God of the Bible is speaking these words to a stubbornly proud generation. At this point, the citizens of Jerusalem were inflated with a self-deceived impression of their own wisdom, strength, and wellbeing (13:9). They took pride in their knowledge of the Law of Moses, the ritual of their Temple, and the reassuring words of their prophets. Yet they were marked by a lack of kindness. They withheld justice from the oppressed; and their relationships reflected little of the rightness that makes God—and those who know him—good for others.

In this setting the Lord of Israel suggests a solution filled with irony. Since his chosen people are already filled with pride, he speaks to them in their own language. If they are going to boast, then he urges them to boast in a way that will bring an end to their self-absorbed idolatry, deception, violence, and a lack of concern for the poor.

Those who really do know and understand the God who delights in kindness, justice, and righteousness find an answer for their pride. They discover the irony of a new kind of boasting. They resonate not only with Jeremiah but with another prophet who says of the same God. “He has showed you, O man, what is good. And what does the Lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God” (Micah 6:8).

Shows that while having a relationship with God may sound proud– the real thing is just the opposite.

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32 Responses to “How “Knowing God” Could Sound Proud”

  1. SFDBWV says:

    Hello sjonesd3, please allow me to begin with Psalms 139: 13,14,15,16,17,18. Here we see that God knew you before you were born and how uniquely personal you are to God.

    Then allow me to jump way ahead to Revelation 3: 20, here we see Jesus ask you to open the door (to your heart) and He *will* come in and have that one on one relationship He wants to have with you.

    Understanding that God is revealed to us in the God head as Father, Son and Holy Spirit, the verse found in John 14: 16 clearly says that God will *give* you the *Comforter* (Holy Spirit) and that He will abide with you *forever*.

    This is a union that nothing in heaven or earth can ever separate you from this *personal* relationship with God (Romans 8: 38, 39)

    I hope I have given you something to start with, blessings on your journey.


  2. SFDBWV says:

    My apologies Mart as I brought my last comment on the last topic over to this one. I wanted to make certain that our new friend read what was said.

    It shows me that it is God who wants us to have this personal relationship with Him and it is Christ who makes it possible.

    It is our Heavenly Father who is seeking out His lost sheep and it is God who is the face of the father in the story of the “Prodigal Son”.

    Jesus Himself says that we are to acknowledge Him publicly and by doing so He will acknowledge us publicly in that heavenly realm.

    We must not hide our light and His name under a basket but let it shine for all to see, always giving Him the credit He deserves, even and especially when things don’t go our way.

    It isn’t name dropping, it is honoring our Heavenly Father and our faith is Jesus of Nazareth the Christ.

    If we are going to acknowledge Him then we begin with a prayer of acceptance of our needing Christ and He is faithful to take it from there and give us help in our growth in learning who God is and our place with Him.


  3. sjonesd3 says:

    Thank you and I did have a chance to read those verses this morning after I woke up.

    Sometimes to other people we come off as name dropping by the life they see we live. It isnt name dropping it’s more trying to spread the message.


  4. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart & Friends –

    It seems to me the God thing goes both ways. I have a friend who was force-fed church religion as a child. She is notoriously cynical about all things religious, especially Christian. Her favorite saying is:
    “I am the ground. You can count on me. I’ll be there when you fall.”

    Perhaps Haley, my friend, has a compelling notion of the utter contradiction between the ways of the world and the ways of a heaven that cannot be seen, felt, heard, tasted or smelled. She has spirit and passion and loyalty – but not for God. She was loved and she was taught about Jesus, but it did not “take” with Haley.

    In my experience, as early as age eight or nine, the human child begins to ask, “What is good? And what is fair (just)? Can I experience these things here and now?” Answers depend entirely upon whether that child has been loved, and whether the ways of God have been faithfully lived out in their day-to-day life.

    We complicate things as adults, but we still yearn for the love, goodness and justice of being. You can go over Genesis 2 with Haley – and Isaiah 43 – and John 17. She will say something like, “You’re not wrong.” She is not about to submit to an organized religion where she has seen, felt, heard, tasted and smelled hypocrisy. She consistently sides with the aged King David: “…let us fall into the hand of the LORD, for his mercy is great; but let me not fall into human hands.” (2 Samuel 24:14)


  5. BruceC says:

    Very interesting topic Mart and a good one to bring up.

    Sometimes the unbelievers look upon us as self-righteous and ‘holier-than-thou”; and there are times when they are correct and times when it is used as nothing but an excuse to continue on in what they do and ignore the grace and gift of God.
    To be truthful I have seen some in church act this same way towards sisters and brothers in Christ. What a poor example to set before the “world”.
    God calls us to humility. That entails truly knowing in our heart that were bought with the blood of Christ by the grace of God and that there was nothing in us or nothing we could accomplish to merit this.
    We run into problems when we act like we are special and God only gave us what we “earned”.

    May the Lord keep us on the path of humility.

    Soli Deo Gloria!

  6. rabbineil says:

    From the beginning of creation, the Bible shows us that it was God’s intention to have a intimate, personal relationship with the man He created. Sin broke that relationship, but Yeshua, Jesus, provided a way for the relationship to be restored.

    I prefer to refer to those without a “sin-forgiven-personal-relationship” with God as “pre-believers” since God desires that “none-should-perish.” It helps me remember that I spent half my life as one. It also helps warn me about becoming prideful since PRIDE is the worst of all the sins in the world.

    Sometimes, when God “speaks” to us, we need to simply ponder it in our heart as the mother of Yeshua did.

    Blessings to all.

  7. kingdomkid7 says:

    I like that word, “pre-believer.”that’s good. Was reading Micah 6:8, which reminds us “to do what is right, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with God.” (NLT)
    The Message translation translates the walking humbly with God into “and don’t take yourself too seriously — take God seriously.”
    I have a question. Does the Message capture the humility piece ?

  8. fadingman says:

    The human-originated/demonic-inspired ideas of God or gods is impersonal. Look at how many false gods are known as the gods of fertility, war, the underworld, etc.

    But the one true God is not known primarily in these impersonal ways. In the Old Testament He is repeatedly identified as “the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob”, “the God of Israel”, “the God of our fathers”, etc. In the New Testament we are taught to call God our Father. This implies, in my mind, the value God places on relationships with us, relationships that He initiates.

    On a more practical line, in the Bible a relationship with God was not something that was claimed for oneself. Abraham didn’t say “Hey, listen to me. I know God!” He didn’t have to. It was evident from his life that there was a bond between him and God.

    We shouldn’t have to brag or claim such a relationship to get others to believe us either. It should also be evident in our lives. People should also be able to say “the God of Mart”, “the God of Maru”, etc.

  9. davids says:

    A long time ago I printed out Micah 6:8 and stuck on the wall near my desk. It does not lead to salvation; only faith in Jesus does that. But, I take it as my daily meditation on a correct attitude.

    Many years ago, before I was saved, I attended a large Southern Baptist university. I was stunned by the attitude of “I may not be perfect, but I am saved” that seemed to excuse the most arrogant, self-righteous, and unkind attitudes.

    Because of that, in my walk, I strenuously avoid giving those outside the church any reason to feel that my faith justifies any worldly pride. Yes, I know God because he has revealed himself to me and to all humanity through the Word, which all can see.

  10. Elisabeth says:

    Cool topic Matt!

    For me, even the issue of name-dropping generally is something that has never bothered me. If someone claimed to know someone famous, they either do or they don’t. If they have that personal relationship then the knowledge would and should come out anyway, even if they tried to hide it. If they didn’t then, I don’t know, but again it’s not really my problem. I can certainly understand anyone being excited by knowing someone who everyone regards as accomplished.

    I think Davids’ comment is spot on. The privilege of knowing God (which is available to everyone by the way) is not cause for pride. If anything, it should humble us as we see how far we are from what He has designed us to be. The more we know Him, the less cause we find for any kind of self-aggrandisement. I think those who haven’t come to know Him would pick up on this.

  11. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart & Friends —

    Mart, about the negative view of a believer you wrote: “Why would they (non-religious) want to be around people who, from their point of view, see God as part of the universe that revolves around them?”

    Here is the ugly believer. If God is reduced in such a life to one more indicator of his/her own “wonderfulness,” then the main feature of that person’s spiritual life is self. Jeremiah’s prophecy about the ruined linen illustrates that following other gods including self, ruin the garment and make it useless. Shocking though the image is – God tells us through Jeremiah that we are to him as a personal garment made to cling to him. So close to God are his beloved people that by intimate contact with his person they “might be for me a people, a name, a praise, and a glory. But they would not listen.” (Jeremiah 13:11)

    Under the positive appearance of knowing God, you wrote: “Those who really do know and understand the God who delights in kindness, justice, and righteousness find an answer for their pride.”

    The heart of this believer is continually repentant and humble before the Lord. The prophet Micah rants against the elaborate sacrifices of idol-worshippers: calves, rams, rivers of oil – even murdering one’s own child on a pagan altar. (Micah 6:6, 7) A century before the exile to Babylon, Micah is preaching pure worship of God – and social justice for all. A faithful believer – a disciple – seeks to bend his/her will to the will of God (understood by God’s word). (Micah 6:8) God is the only Being of sovereign and cosmic power. (Isaiah 55:8, 9) Judah was destroyed and Jerusalem, including Solomon’s Temple, was reduced to burned rubble on account of worshiping other gods. The entire ministries of Isaiah, Jeremiah and Micah were devoted to turning the hearts of the nation to knowing God and worshipping God.

    Jesus of Nazareth personally leads the humble and willing to knowing God. (John 10:11) In these days of grace, each of us is still able to choose freely.


  12. BruceC says:

    Unfortunately there are some who view God as their own personal light switch. That God is there to satisfy their desires and wants. Prosperity theology anyone?
    Just as unfortunate is the fact that this type of attitude is in all of us. It’s part of our fallen, human nature of selfishness. Far too often; deep down inside us all, is the desire for God to answer our prayers and our questions OUR way. Isn’t that the truth?
    So we must continually remind ourselves of who God is and who we are and keep it all in its rightful perspective. We are here to serve God and glorify Him; not the other way around.

    Soli Deo Gloria!

  13. poohpity says:

    Jeremiah courageously and faithfully proclaimed the Word of God. It was obvious that it was not done arrogantly because in the process of proclaiming messages from God meant such heartache and personal cost to him. If it was done to let people know how spiritual or spirit filled he was it would have brought light to himself and not to God. It normally was others that came to Jeremiah to inquire from God and when he relayed what God said it resulted in some form of torture. He agonized over the messages God gave him to deliver and every time it caused him to suffer in some way just like Paul.

    Paul, for carrying God’s message, suffered imprisonment, beatings, and many other things that brought harm to him for spreading the Gospel. The things done to him did not hold him back from telling the story of Christ not telling people how spirit filled he was but because he was spirit filled he continued to tell the Good News.

    So yes, “Shows that while having a relationship with God may sound proud– the real thing is just the opposite.” Arrogance will have no part in the life of those who are called by the name of Christ because they will show that it is ALL about Christ and they will take a back seat to being honored because their desire will be for Christ and His glory not their own.

  14. SFDBWV says:

    The entire purpose of the creation of the people of Israel was to reveal God to the world and to provide a Savior through them. This Savior being God Himself on earth, known to us as Jesus of Nazareth, whom also revealed the true nature of God.

    By reading the Word of God and by way of accepting Jesus as Christ we are given the Holy Spirit to help us forever to bond with God in spirit.

    This is God’s will for all mankind; it is not a proud boast but rather an affirmation of our faith.


  15. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart & Friends –

    The continuing “desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus” (2 Timothy 3:14) is the precious thing each follower of the Savior imparts to the world. It is the fellowship of believers that carries the heritage of knowing God into a mighty uncertain future. The church has drawn fire from those “outside” and those “inside” her. Steve, you have stated the purpose of God simply and clearly. It seems to me that God created humankind “in (God’s) image,” (Genesis 1:26) for fellowship – togetherness – abiding with God’s self.

    The form in which the church moves into the future seems to be morphing. Whereas the church was a power broker in society in earlier centuries, she is now diminished in authority both morally and politically. Perhaps it is too early to discern what changes are coming in the structure of the church. She is still called by God to speak truth to power – wherever and whenever the truth is needed: always and everywhere. (Philippians 4:4, 5, 6, 7) People need God – and it is the believers and followers of God who are “the salt and light of the world.” (Matthew 5:13, 14, 15, 16)

    Knowledge of God in Jesus Christ brings deliverance from evil to all peoples – even to all creation.


  16. poohpity says:

    I think if people who hold tightly to the Lord will want to be like Him. Jesus did not cling to His Deity (Phil 2:5,6,7,8) or force Himself on anyone. He became a servant (John 13:12,13,14,15) as a model for us. (Romans 5:8)

    Paul showed us that arrogance is the opposite of what we are called to be. Romans 12:10,16; Phil 2:3.

    If we are seen by people as thinking of ourselves as better than anyone else there may be some areas that still need work in us and for most of us we know that is true. It seems if people are drawn to us because we honestly care for others and are concerned for them we are headed in the right direction. Hopefully if we are going in the wrong direction we will be open to correction from the Lord to put us back on the right path. I am not saying that people may not want to be around us because we may not do what they do, that will happen but let the reason be because the Lord is convicting them, not us and they may not be ready to meet Him, yet. ;-)

  17. Mart De Haan says:

    Thanks to all of you for thinking this through with me. I’d like to keep the series going a little longer but am on the road and it may be a couple of days before I have a chance to post again.

  18. davids says:

    I was reading something that pointed out the difference between two meanings of know:
    – I know Carol
    – I know geometry

    If you know any European languages at all then you will recognize that they make a distinction between the two (connaître/savoir in French, kennen/weten in Dutch – you can probably relate those to Spanish, German, etc.) One refers to knowledge gained through experience (I know Carol). The other refers to something learned (I know geometry).

    I relate this to the topic of having a Personal Relationship with God. To the world, it seems like you can only know God through what you learn about Him, like geometry. Only those inside the faith understand that you come to know him in an experiential way.

    Sorry if this comes across a bit high-brow, but, hey we have to kill some time before Mart changes the topic. Maybe I should write something more controversial.

  19. freedom12 says:

    I get that it’s not about how often we express our knowledge of God, rather the way we express it. Do we express it fully or not? The Samaritan chose to express it fully. By not having “fear of contaminations” to defend, he had more energy to give; “to help” (to be “God” expressed).

    Freedom in Christ…

  20. foreverblessed says:

    Davids,good point about knowing God, it was funny to read a dutch word here: kennen en weten, if we know God , we experience Him, and that experience is working in our hearts, making it soft, and illuminated by His light. Jesus is the Light and the Light shone in our darkness John 1:5a, Gen 1:3.
    Knowing God means that our hearts will change, if we follow in His truth to love God above all, and our neighbour as ourselves, like freedom12 wrote, that that is what the Samaritan did: helping his neighbour,Luke 10:33 that is the essence of knowing GOd, we will BE like Him.
    I guess what we ARE in Jesus is more of a witness then our words, what can words do to a hardened heart of the cultural christian, (the prebeliever as someone described them here, what I think is a good way of looking at all people: the not-yet believer). If they see the love we have for one another. That is also a prophecy spoken by Christ, in the beautiful last prayer:
    John 17:22,23
    In the love that will be in us, that will bring the unity, and that will show the world who Jesus is.
    Some more on knowing, and how important that is to Jesus: John 17:26

  21. foreverblessed says:

    In second reading, freedom12, I am saying the same thing as you wanted to say.
    The more we KNOW God, the more we should become like Him, helping others.
    If someone needs help, and asks you, look into your own heart if there is enough love in you to help. And if there is not enough love, we have access to the throne of God in the name of Jesus, to ask for anything we need (love peace patience joy), and go out and help the other.
    That is about letting the world see Who God is.
    As Jesus said, the world does not know the Father, John 17:25
    but that is not a problem, because Jesus knows the Father, and we know that Jesus is sent by the Father, John 17:26 we can be assured Jesus will be in us, What a beautiful truth, do not let the lie rule, believe in Jesus, hold on to that faith and help others if the moment is opportune, so that the love of God can grow in us.
    As Jesus promised that He himself will be in us John 17:26, do not waver and act.

  22. oneg2dblu says:

    Knowing God is not as prideful as claiming to know
    Jesus Christ as your Personal Saviour. It seems to me that everyone who ever stood before a Court of Law in the United States, including the court of law, had to place their hand upon the Holy Bible and swore to an oath to tell the truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth, so help me God. So, all claimed to somehow already know God. So, where is the pride is that issue?
    If you were raised in America when I was raised in America, you already claimed to know God. God was just part of our every day life.
    But, today we have evolved into being a greater thinking society of peoples then yester-year’s well taught assuming group of people, we now have the right to no longer have to even claim to know God. We can profess there is no God.
    So, let’s all keep Jesus as the main issue here, this Jesus as being Our God. This Jesus as providing us with the Holy Spirit, and Jesus being the Only Way to God the Father!
    That’s where the issue of pride comes in. That is where the discussions become heated, hated, haltered.
    Jesus is not believable to those who are not called by God’s Grace to believe. God is the giver of that Grace, and Christ is the only one who can put His Holy Spirit into the believer’s heart when God’s Grace is both granted and received! We do not present pride as much as we present something that others can not see or gain for themselves.
    The world hates us for it, the world can not bring it about and the world can not control it, so the world sets itself apart from it, and there we have the pride issue revealed as the world is too pride filled to be humbled by any God.
    Separation a church and state becomes the legal cry.
    Pride is not the issue, but being believable is, and only God chooses who will believe. Gary

  23. freedom12 says:

    In response to, “So does the prophet Jeremiah really say that the God of the Bible approves of those who drop his name for their own benefit?”

    No, I don’t believe Jeremiah is saying this. Micah 6:8 makes it clear, (“what does the lord require of you? To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God”).

    Further, Jeremiah 9:23-24 makes clear what’s “NOT” required, (“Let not the wise man boast of his wisdom….”). I believe this includes “dropping God’s name” as well.

    The verse goes on to say “but let him who boasts (i.e., if he must boast) boast about this, that he understands and knows me that I am the Lord, who exercises kindness, justice and righteousness on earth, for in these I delight” (key word here is “delight”).

    I believe the Prophet is saying to know God is to know His delight. In this, “we find an answer for our pride. We discover the irony of a new kind of boasting”, Mart’s words. Freedom in Christ

  24. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    Can’t say too much, but God has given me a job to do these last six weeks or so.
    All I can say is “….and the greatest of these is LOVE”.

    Loving someone, puting yourself in their place, living their life, interceeding on their behalf by becoming part of their lives. Being a friend, offering a cup of water or a meal. Sticking in there when no one else will.
    You won’t have to drop any names or mention God.
    He will do that all on His own through the Holy Spirit.

    Being a friend to a person who has none means more than any three point sermon or bible quote.

    John Lennon got it right when he sang.
    “Love, Love, Love, Love is all they need”


  25. Bob in Cornwall England says:

    If I am to quote someone I should at least get it right!

    Love is all YOU need!


  26. kingdomkid7 says:

    Gary is on to something. Our discourse has been so attacked that now you don’t even have to swear to God on the Bible in court anymore. But it is really our belief in Jesus that becomes the stumbling block for those who are perishing without Him. Whether we are walking the pure and humble walk or just talking the talk will be up to us — but in a Christ-blocking society, you might be labeled as arrogant no matter what you do. We must stand strong in the liberty with which Christ has set us free.

  27. poohpity says:

    I think all of us could reflect on what Mart said about those who,”see God as part of the universe that revolves around them?” Could it be that while we say we hold tight to the truths of God and His Word we get lost in self righteousness, self importance, self sufficiency and self indulgence while neglecting thinking of others as better than ourselves? Putting down our own rights to defend the rights of others or the things we want to those things that will benefit another. This topic really opens the doors to how we really come across to others and that may mean to ask or really do some self examination.

    Thanks Mart leaving this topic up has really helped me look around a little more at how people perceive my behavior. It seems so important to bring any glory to God since He is the source of all that we are given as spiritual gifts to serve our God and others. That even includes or faith we can not take any credit for the amount we are given.

  28. oneg2dblu says:

    I’m having a little problem connecting to a world where even the mention of God is considered as apostelizing a religion. God does not follow the dictates of religious practice or any man, But, man when chosing to stifle God at every turn is definslety something I would call a religious practice. Like pretending to live in a vacuum where God does not exist or will not be tolerated and just speaking about God in a public venue is considered as even insensitive, or hateful speech to those who need to be protected and insulate themselves from this horrid ideal of there being anything other than self worship.
    I say offend the world if you must but never stop standing for godly values, morals, or ideals, for there is No Law against such things… except in this darkening world who wants to legislate at every new turn God out of existence. For them, the law of man is paramount and the Laws of God hsve no place in our self-serving modern thinking society. It seems to me, that the intoxicating drug of gradualism is taking affect quite nicely in the country who used to identify itself as a Christian Nation and is now told for the first time by their elected leader, we are no longer a Christian Nation, or no longer under any religios leaning Constitution or it mention of God, or the dictates of our fgounding father’s who knew where we would decline to if government is left unfettered, but now we are becoming free agsin to do as the rest of the world. No longer a need for the Holy Bible in our courts? We have our own laws and we don’t need any Judeo/Christian ideals of the past dictating to us. WOW!

  29. poohpity says:

    All we can do is pay attention to our individual actions and not lump our country or the people who live here into groups. We are each responsible to God and when we attempt to have expectations of how others need to act we then have no time to make sure we each are doing what God intended for us to do. That is the reason people will look at us and think we feel above or proud of our position in the Lord rather than being humble and showing the grace and mercy we have been shown.

  30. kingdomkid7 says:

    I think one way of fighting the good fight of faith is to stand up for God in the broader society. If we do nothing then the slide into darkness is swift. Maybe because I am around people at work who do claim that mention of God or Godly values is “hate speech,” I do not just sit there and say nothing when they say that. We must watch our tone and affect, and we must be kind, I think. But we can’t be totally silent in the face of these attacks. The risk of opening your mouth is to be misunderstood, and yes, maybe even arrogant.
    Are apologists all arrogant? Was C.S. Lewis?

  31. kingdomkid7 says:

    I meant to say “perceived as arrogant.”. I do not condone arrogance. I’m just wondering how much we can really focus on misperceptions when we have a Great Commission to advance. We just have to be as real and kind and gentle as we can.

  32. poohpity says:

    When Jesus was confronted on who He said He was and what He came for, many took offense and had misconceptions yet he just walked away rather than forcing it (John 10:25,31,39). There are times walking away is in the best interest of all especially those who are not open to listening. Sharing the Gospel sometimes has to be done with words but when the Lord opens the doors to tell what He has done in our lives and for all mankind then the words can be used.

    Standing on our faith is another thing but I think that just involves our own hearts not having to defend it to others but holding to it.

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