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4- Unusual Facts About the Bible

The four Gospels offer eye-witness accounts that vary in ways that are often difficult to reconcile. The Bible’s critics cite these apparent discrepancies as reason to question the Bible’s reliability.

The other side of the coin, however, is that these reporting differences reflect a lack of cover-up by an early Christian community.

Rather than suggesting collusion, the Gospel accounts sound more like the perspectives of witnesses in a court of law who agree on the basics while offering different perspectives on the details.

In addition, Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John all seem to have slightly different reasons for arranging their summaries of Jesus life as they do. It’s not as if all four are giving us a chronological timeline for all that Jesus said and did.

The fact that we have four different summary accounts is a wonderful gift. Being able to see that all of them agree on the basic facts of Jesus life is far more important than knowing how to reconcile the differences we find in them.

Note: For example, the Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics gives the following example:

Quote: Each New Testament writer tells a crucial and overlapping part of the whole story…

There are minor discrepancies in the Gospel accounts. One account (Matt. 28:5) says there was one angel at the tomb; John says there were two angels (John 20:12). Such conflicts are not contradictions in that they are not irreconcilable. Matthew does not say there was only one angel there; that would be a contradiction. We are uncertain of whether the two texts are speaking of the same moments.” (End of quote– Baker Encyclopedia of Christian Apologetics”

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33 Responses to “4- Unusual Facts About the Bible”

  1. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart & Friends –

    The four Gospels are a great gift to humankind. The fact that they comprise the most thoroughly and convincingly attested narrative of history anywhere is the most important thing for those of the worldly mind. For those who come to them with faith seeking a good word, they are better than good. Truly the four Gospels are the best word in the universe. Jesus prayed to God: “Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth.” (John 17:17) The Gospel is embodied in Jesus himself.

    Mart, you wrote:
    1) “The four Gospels offer eye-witness accounts that vary in ways that are often difficult to reconcile. The Bible’s critics cite these apparent discrepancies as reason to question the Bible’s reliability.
    2) The other side of the coin, however, is that these reporting differences reflect a lack of cover-up by an early Christian community.” (numbering is mine)

    Your first point describes a critique that is immature on the part of skeptics. The way the human heart and mind receive the Gospel message has everything to do with the conclusions they will draw. To approach the words with doubt produces doubt.

    Your second point describes the only attitude that is fruitful for reading Matthew, Mark, Luke and John. To prayerfully approach the words with hope and faith in the truth yields assurance. The apostle Paul affirms this in his letter to the Roman church: “For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. For in it the righteousness of God is revealed from faith for faith, as it is written, ‘The righteous shall live by faith.’” (Romans 1:16, 17)


  2. SFDBWV says:

    Certainly everything I write here is from my own perspective, I shouldn’t need to say that every time I write it should be understood between all of us that this is the matter concerning us all.

    Our own distinct personalities and personal experiences help create the way we think and look at everything as well as how we may report any matter we try to share.

    If 4 different people seen a car wreck, all will tell a different account of what they saw, but they all saw a car wreck.

    Here in the USA each time a President leaves office he sets up a library and writes his own accounting of his history as President. Hoping to “set the record straight” against future biographers who will tell a different story.

    Matthew, Mark and John are accounts from people who actually were a part of the stories they told and were witness to every account they gave. Luke is as I have understood it, a collection of eyewitness accounts not actually being Luke.

    If they were represented identical in every detail it certainly would not seem to fit into the *human* persona.

    I have often said here that there are no contradictions in Scripture only our lack of understanding them.

    Part of understanding these seeming discrepancies is understanding that these men who wrote these accounts were not trained writers, they were for the most part uneducated working men who just wrote down what it is they were witness to.

    With one exception; the Holy Spirit’s aid.

    As I have hammered out before, the reason that these Words resonate so deeply with us is because of the interaction between our spirits and that of the Holy Spirit as He bears witness of Himself found in the writings of all of Scripture including that found in the NT.

    To resist the urgings of the Holy Spirit is the greatest danger to any person, as resisting may lead to becoming numb or deaf, and unable to hear, see, learn or accept Him.

    People of whatever education or background who view the Scriptures and especially the Gospels with bias criticism already start off crippled in their ability to be sensitive to the presence and voice of the Holy Spirit found in the pages of Scripture and especially their ability to accept Him into their psyche/being.


  3. BruceC says:

    This is quite an interesting topic; and again God works in strange ways. I am presently reading both my KJV reference Bible that I always use at church and for study; and the Reese Chronological Bible in KJV. What I like about the Chronological is to read everything in a timeline and you get to see all scriptures and how they describe the same topic. I am still in the OT. I just recently ran across a discrepancy that I read concerning the Molten Sea and how many “baths” of water it held. One book said 2,000 and the other 3,000. So I emailed a website I have used before for this type of thing and they explained it. This happened once before also. But skeptics would just shout “Aha!” and put another feather in their cap without looking any farther.
    The Bible weaves itself together in a wonderful, beautiful, and to me a supernatural and miraculous way. Skeptics have tried to destroy it for centuries and it still continues as the most read and most printed book of all time. God will not be outdone.
    What Mart said is true about eye witness testimony. As a retired cop of 27 years I saw this many times over. But all the witnesses still told the truth and that testimony harmonized with the others. The same story in a different approach from a different witness all testifying to the same truth.
    I have a new Bible in transit because my KJV is so worn out the pages are coming off the binding. The new one is a KJV Life Application Study Bible and I feel like a kid in a candy store. It’s also my Christmas present. (I know-a little early)
    Monday is our 35th anniversary and we are taking a day trip to the lower Adirondacks in Old Forge to do some shopping and to see (for the 10th time) the Old Forge Hardware Store. What a place. Might not hear from me again until Tuesday. God bless all!

    Soli Deo Gloria!

  4. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart & Friends —

    The writings that refer to the Gospels and their truth are more numerous than those for many other historical writings: The Didache (about 70 AD); Clement (~ 96 AD); Ignatius of Antioch ( d. 108 AD)… These are the earliest I know of. In addition, there are manuscripts of the Gospels (and all Scriptures) that are numerous and that do not contradict one another in any significant way.

    Reading these writings, in my opinion, will not incrase faith in Jesus Christ; but they are there and easily obtained and read by anyone who wishes to see evidence for the Gospels outside the Gospels.

    I am not a Bible scholar. But, I am confident when I say that the Gospels are some of the best attested writings in the world.


  5. SFDBWV says:

    Ok I will step off into another direction skirting this train of topics Mart has now numbered as being #4.

    “Birds of a feather flock together.”

    Using that old adage, I bring to the table the idea that who among we Christians criticize the Scriptures?

    Given the assumption that many who become believers do so because they are introduced to the Bible via a multitude of circumstances and through the reading of this Book of Books has a revelation moment that brings them heart to heart with Jesus and the God of all creation.

    These fragile early believers taking their first steps out into the world of enlightenment concerning the Word of God will encounter stumbling blocks and questions that require help in overcoming them.

    That help will come from two places, God and we His witnesses.

    This means these interested beginners will need to be in the presence of both God and Jesus’ witnesses in order to get the answers they need to strengthen them.

    Being in the presence of God requires prayer and being in the presence of His witnesses requires either for them to seek out believers or for believers to seek out them.

    RBC and many other ministries do what they can to put literature in the hands of both beginners and old timers in order to encourage and hopefully enlighten them on their journey to accepting the Word of God and accepting Jesus as their personal Savior.

    This literature or our conversations need to focus on the positives and encouragements directed toward others, not place more questions or stumbling blocks in their delicate walk toward understanding their place in God’s plans.

    So we must be very prayerful and careful in how we approach each subject and what we say or write.

    Sometimes the best answer to Biblical questions may be, I don’t have an answer, but I trust God does.


  6. oneg2dblu says:

    Encountering the four gospels alone, meaning without the gift of a believing faith in Christ, or the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit, is reading four different accounts about the life of Jesus Christ as one might read four different recipes for apple pie.
    Although being similar in their basic content, yet somehow different but producing a close result that resembles the same thing.
    Jesus Christ lived among man, he existed, and had many friends, enemies, and encounters with many who are written witnesses of his life.
    But they in themselves, in their words alone, do not make the recipe for a Saviour to all who read them.
    When I was a newly Born Again Follower I dripped Christ into every conversation, every event, and everywhere I went, overflowing with the magnitude of the gift I had just received.
    One of my personal and professional acquaintances was a brilliant gifted doctor who was a full on Jewish man.
    He and I would eventually get together for dinner at his house because he wanted to know more about what he had witnessed in my obvious change.
    We had a wonderful evening together with his family, and after dinner we retired to the study for cigars and brandy. Not really, perhaps a second cup of coffee but that was it.
    He put on some Gospel Music which is one of his favorite genres, and that set another table for us.
    He told me about his rich Jewish upbringing and the depth of his faith in God.
    I told him about my Christian upbringing, and my faith in distant God, not really knowing a Saviour or having any personal relationship with Christ.
    He knew his bible well and confessed his yearning to know more about Christ. So, he read the gospels making to me the point that the Gospel of John was his most sought after, but he never came away with any believing faith in Christ, as the awaited Saviour of the Jewish man he had become.
    I shared my testimony with him and we had many moving moments of thought which poured out of each of us.
    The most telling was at the threshold of his door, with his family now all tucked into bed and the wee hours upon us, he said to me, it is as you say, and as the gospels say, Jesus Saves, but, Moses Invests!
    I knew at that moment, my witness, and the witness of the gospels, had not grabbed his lifelong depth of being an all out Jewish man, as he was still awaiting a Saviour.
    He definitely believed in Jesus the man, but not Jesus the Lord.
    I believe he may been saved since then, because of his faith in God, and because I now know that God has blinded the Jew from seeing our Saviour, as the Christ of the Gospels, and not coming alive to them as their Lord.
    John years ago had a sever brain damaging hemorrhage because of a failed operation on his ear, but God has given him a Stroke of Genius, a second chance if you will, and because he had invested wisely he has also blessed his family in spite of all the handicaps he now suffers with. He has become by default, and through an unbelievably compulsive work ethic switched on in his brain, he is constantly working on his art and poetry, and has become a very successful acclaimed artist.
    I know he carries Christ in his heart today, because of the many witnesses given to him through his quest to know Jesus Christ, and he can no longer ever be the same strict practicing Jewish man he once was, if you ever read his story, you would agree.
    In my last email with John he expressed his knowing Christ more than ever, and through all his suffering I believe he means everything he says.
    Jonathan Sarkin has left an epic legacy for his family and his world which today awaits his next Stroke of Genius.
    Although I can not say I know him as well now, I was blessed to know the husband, the father, the doctor, the musician, the friend, and the man he once was, and the very strict Jewish man, he once was as well.
    I believe that also made him all he could be.
    Now, he is in God’s Hands, living his second chance to again be all he can be.
    May he also be in Christ today. Gary

  7. poohpity says:

    Bruce, I hope you so enjoy the Life Application Study Bible although not in the same translation I have read that since 1989. I can not begin to tell you how wonderful it has been to my understanding.

    After many times through the Bible there are many questions I run into about things that make no sense from one part to another and some very hard things to understand but God is very faithful with showing me and teaching me. I may not get the answer that day but it comes in a Aha moment.

    I hope I remember this correctly from a Bible study. Matthew an educated tax collector’s purpose to present Jesus as the Messiah/King. John Mark who was with Paul on the missionary journeys was also the one in the garden during Jesus’ betrayal in his night clothes presented Christ as the suffering servant. Luke, a well educated man being a physician gathered all the information to give an historical account to present Jesus the man. They attribute the Book of John to the disciple John, he presented the deity of Jesus, I heard they are not sure if it truly was from him but the voice of the writings seemed the same. It was in the early 90’s I learned that so I do not know if I remember right since ol’ timers is creeping in. lol.

  8. poohpity says:

    I think that in those times if someone was not educated they did not have the ability to read or write but men seemed to be the one’s who got to go to a temple to learn.

  9. SFDBWV says:

    We who read and contribute to BTA have went through 4 topics of “Unusual Facts about the Bible” that weren’t actually unusual facts but unusual views about how to convince others to accept it’s *authenticity*.

    Seems to me that there are *unusual* stories aplenty to spark the interest of just about anyone.

    The Bible starts with explaining how everything that exists came into being. That’s pretty unusual seeing that the scientific world still spends tons of money and endless hours attempting to explain it.

    The idea that 8 people is all that survived a world wide flood along with only the animals kept safe with them is quite an unusual story.

    The story of Elijah and how he was taken up into the sky as well as the wheel that Ezekiel saw should catch the curious among us.

    Then there is the story of the Exodus and the stunning events surrounding it, the journey through the wilderness and the fall of Jericho and the cnquest of Canaan.

    Then there is the story of the Birth of Jesus, His 3 years of public life, His death and resurrection. Unusual to say the least.

    The Book of Acts leads us to where the world is right now.

    Two *facts* unavoidable by the most stoic of skeptics is this;
    1. Israel exists today
    2. Christian’s exist today.

    These two facts are explained from their beginnings right there in the Book of Books the Bible, indisputable and a thorn in the flesh of those who would rather believe neither have a place in the *real* world of mankind and his accomplishments.

    As I said before the Bible will be an indictment against mankind when judgment comes.


  10. SFDBWV says:

    Many of us ask for many things from God, often citing Scripture as our right to do so and in the proper attitude as well as instructions to do so.

    One reply from Him is “Are you ready to receive it?”

    Are we, are we really ready to receive the desires of our heart, and are we really ready to have the things we ask for?

    He is willing to give to us these things, but first we may need to be prepared to know how to receive them as well as how to deal with them maturely and properly when that time comes.

    Stay in prayer for the things you ask of God, and ask to be ready to receive them.

    Have confidence in God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.


  11. remarutho says:

    Good Morning All –

    Steve, I agree that the condition of the heart of the one going to the Scriptures is crucial. I recently went on Youtube to see again Lee Strobel’s (author of The Case for Christ) testimony. He tells the story of his wife’s transformation after accepting Christ as her Savior. He watched her carefully. Then, he began to read the Bible for himself. He was a court/law reporter in Chicago at the time – and had a super-hardboiled attitude about everything. His initial plan was to discredit the whole God thing entirely.

    Mart, you wrote:
    “Rather than suggesting collusion, the Gospel accounts sound more like the perspectives of witnesses in a court of law who agree on the basics while offering different perspectives on the details.”

    Something rang true in Lee’s mind, heart and soul as he read the Gospels. His spirit was engaged (plus, I’m sure his dear wife was on her knees constantly). He was “salted with fire” and began to devour Scripture. At last, he went into full-time ministry and chose to serve Jesus every day, all day, for the rest of his life. He is a high-profile example of what happens to the most skeptical and cynical minds when the Holy Spirit enters in! Saul of Tarsus is another…

    There is something else going on, isn’t there? It is “unusual” – supernatural – transforming!


  12. poohpity says:

    Another area that may seem like a discrepancy is the linage of Jesus between the Matthew’s account in Matthew 1:1-17 and Luke’s account in Luke 3:23-38. Matthew was giving facts to show that Jesus was in fact from the linage of King David to present the King of Kings and Luke was giving the lineage back through Mary to show the human side of Jesus. Both had purpose in their lists for one aspect of Jesus.

  13. poohpity says:

    I learned that those who have passed down the manuscripts to us copied them not by sentences or paragraphs but by every letter, letter by letter and punctuation mark so there would be accuracy. If during that time they could have made sure that the eye witness accounts were exactly the same no differences at all to me would have shown that someone messed with it.

    Like Bruce said if one were to pull out a police file and every account of an accident or crime all said the very same thing exactly then it would sound a bit strange and someone would know that something was just not right. Depending on one’s intention and who they are they see things differently. When I listen to someone talk I pay attention to what they are not saying as well as what they are. Bruce was trained to look for facts due to his police work and I look at things digging for facts as well but to figure out the counseling aspect at what is hidden underneath that makes us do the things we do.

    So I agree that it is the discrepancies that make it so much more real and believable.

  14. poohpity says:

    I should have said at first glance, seeming discrepancies rather than plain old discrepancies.

  15. poohpity says:

    I think sometimes when we start searching, seeking and delighting ourselves in the Lord the desires of our heart change. Like what you were saying Maru of Lee that his desire came to wanting to serve the Lord with all that his life could offer, everything else just does not seem so important anymore.

  16. SFDBWV says:

    Evidently the subject of believing the Bible from an academic point of view has not been exhausted.

    I don’t know the numbers, but I would guess they have to be in the billions as to how many Christians bless the world today.

    If I were to be able and poll all of them and categorize them into the plethora of possibilities as where each one was in their journey as well as how each one accepted Jesus to be Messiah; I wonder how many are concerned with the Bible being academically acceptable to non believers.

    From such a look I wonder how many struggle with the difficulties of life and find comfort and hope from the Bible.

    Faith comes by hearing and hearing the Word of God.

    This statement has richness of truth in it. The written Word of God exposes the person of the Word of God, Jesus.

    When read we are in the presence of and listening to Jesus.

    Some 2000 years ago the masses of people as well as the intellectual top percentile came to hear what it was this Jesus of Nazareth had to say. No one came away the unaffected.

    Nothing has changed neither the perspectives of the various people who still come to see what it is Jesus has to say, and no one goes away the same as before they picked up the Bible and began to read.

    Many years ago I told a youth group I was leading that whatever you look for in life you will find it; if you look for trouble, trouble is what you find, if you look for answers, answers will come, if you look for evil you will find it, if you look for the good in the world that too you will find.

    The Living Word of God is no different, you will find whatever it is you are looking for; what is it you look for and why?


  17. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart & Friends!

    I agree that this topic is inexhaustible. The number of professing Christians has increased four-fold in the last 100 years, according to the Pew Centers. The most recent census in 2010 was 6.9 billion persons in the world. 2.18 billion of that number reported the Christian faith. I make that slightly under one third of the world. We will have the next definitive word in 2020, I imagine,if the Lord tarries and nothing rips.

    The number of “intellectuals” who embrace Jesus as Lord is smaller proportionally – the number whose lives are on the margin of survival who accept the Lord has increased. In economic terms, the “haves” are making other choices in faith. The “have nots” are coming to Christ, as I see it. Where I find myself in the USA this winter – the West Coast – has the highest percentage of those reporting “none” when it comes to religion of any kind.

    Jesus prophesied all the end-time phenomena the prophets before him did: Luke 21:25, 26, 27. Then, he did not call us to despair – but said: “But when these things begin to take place, straighten up and lift up your heads, because your redemption is drawing near.” (v 28) These words of prophecy are reported by Matthew and Mark as well (Matthew 24:30-34; Mark 13:24-27). The hearts of people either receive these words – or not. Many do not wish to hear a discouraging word of any kind…if this is a “discouraging” word. Each must decide if these Scriptures carry the authority of the living God and his Christ — or not.


  18. cplus0 says:

    There have been several references to the “intellectuals” of the world. Perhaps we should think about what qualifies one to be considered an “intellectual”. Knowing that many who claim such a title for themselves seem unable or unwilling to differentiate between “proven” vs. “speculative” science, perhaps we have become needlessly intimidated by such claims from those who are not yet ready to deal with intellectual honesty. Ultimately 1st. Cor. 3:6 solves our quandry…”I planted the seed, Apollos watered it, but God made it grow.”

  19. poohpity says:

    Here is what I glean from the last 5 posts from Mart. When someone asks us, who may be cynical about the reliability of the bible, we could just say because I have faith that it is because of the Spirit of God who lives in me told me so or we could give facts about why we believe as we do which may give them the incentive to read it.

    #1 “Both testaments describe in detail the weaknesses and failures of the people whose story they tell.” Rather than sugar coating things it is just out there in the open to see how much we have in common throughout history with mankind.

    #2 “Written by at least 40 authors over a period of 1500 years, all pens contributed to a well timed, orchestrated plotline that came together in the most unexpected of ways.”

    #3 Some find the bible a tough read while others find all that it contains comes alive after an encounter with Jesus and the Holy Spirit and are drawn to read it although it is a massive adventure.

    #4 “There aren’t many clear predictions of Jesus in the Jewish Scriptures. This, however, is where I end up finding such a compelling case for Christ. What seems so eye-opening is that, far more than fulfilling a few specific predictions, Jesus comes into the world as the Living Word who gives fulness of meaning to all words written before and after him.”

    #5 “The four Gospels offer eye-witness accounts that vary in ways that are often difficult to reconcile. Rather than suggesting collusion, the Gospel accounts sound more like the perspectives of witnesses in a court of law who agree on the basics while offering different perspectives on the details.”

  20. poohpity says:

    I guess calling it an academic exercise may be missing the heart of it all. As one would read any non-fiction book it is to gain knowledge about the subject. The subject of this book, the Bible, is to gain knowledge about God. We could just read books from other people who have read it and take their book reports on it or we could read it ourselves. Deception is not easy to spot.

  21. poohpity says:

    To me over the last 5 posts Mart has made an argument of his hope in the reliability of the Bible.

  22. poohpity says:

    Argument–A course of reasoning aimed at demonstrating truth or falsehood.

  23. bubbles says:

    I enjoyed Dr. Kennedy because he always prefaced reading the Bible by saying, “Let us hear the inspired and infalliable Word of the living God.” I loved that sentence.

  24. davids says:

    I’m going to start off with some scripture today.

    1 Corinthians 9 “19 Though I am free and belong to no one, I have made myself a slave to everyone, to win as many as possible. 20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law. 22 To the weak I became weak, to win the weak. I have become all things to all people so that by all possible means I might save some. 23 I do all this for the sake of the gospel, that I may share in its blessings.”

    I want to talk about Jesus, crucified and risen. I want to talk about God’s grace and blessings. This can speak to everyone, whether poor or rich, intellectual or simple.

    I am not interested in arguments about the age of the earth, or the origin of the species. If it is not in Jesus words or in the ancient creeds, why argue about it? It is like discussing the number of angels that can dance on the head of a pin.

    In my view, Christians would do better to leave behind theological arguments and spend time thinking about how to spread the kingdom of Christ here and now.

  25. poohpity says:

    Not that kind of argument, I meant the academia kind. There are different meanings to argument and some types are rather meaningful and healthy that was why I made sure to give the definition of the type I meant so it would not be misunderstood but it was anyway.

  26. SFDBWV says:

    Maru, reading over your comments from December 4, 9:15 am I was reminded of an accounting I read of a few weeks back.

    It seems that *thousands* of responders reported their religion to be “The Force”, as pertaining to the “Star Wars” movies.

    I still laugh.

    In my local newspaper there are often editorials from a representative of some national organization using religious freedom as a spring board to keep the Judeo-Christian faith out of all aspects of American Government. The organization is based in Washington DC, so it can act as a lobbyist on their agendas behalf in Congress.

    I read their thoughts and grimace each time they applaud some action of the courts over the will of the people by the forced removal of any vestige of God and more importantly Jesus from the public view.

    There is and has been a unified effort by enemies of Christ to discredit Jesus at every level. One of the attacks is from the intellectual approach of viewing the belief in a God as absurd.

    In Stalinist Russia people were considered insane for believing in God and sent to special re-indoctrination camps or institutions for such behavior.

    *Sensible* people set their beliefs on only what they can see, touch, and accept from other *sensible* people as being the “facts”.

    What can’t be ignored by the practical thinkers among us is that deep in their hearts is a belief that there is something more to life than just what they *know*, something *otherworldly* or *spiritual*.
    All religions of the world spring from this inner *knowing* and God understands this as it was He who placed this yearning into the hearts of mankind, so they would seek Him out,

    There found the in pages of the Bible are all the answers to this *yearning* leading up to and exposing Jesus of Nazareth to be the *only way* and *only hope* for mankind.

    Is the earth warming? Yes! Are the nations of the earth preparing for war? Yes! Are there strange new diseases arriving on the scene? Yes! Are people becoming more and more inclined toward evil? Yes! Are there increasing strange weather phenomena? Yes!

    Jesus said these things are only the beginning of troubles coming toward the earth, and urges all of us to find safety within the Ark of our salvation….That statement can only be found in the Bible and is relevant to the Person of Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah/Christ. The invitation is offered to everyone excluding no one, but time is running out.


  27. oneg2dblu says:

    Right now the ever sweet sound of 1 Corinthians 1:27 plays in my mind.

  28. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart & Friends —

    Yes, Steve! “The Force” has become a cultural icon. Some extrapolate from that piece of entertainment to the bringing of “enlightenment” to our planet by alien life forms. Whatever.

    I remember the strong shaking of Eastern & Russian Orthodox Chrisitians in the day! Their spirits were not broken. They have their idiosyncracies as a religion, but they have upheld the faith in an acid-bath of cultural attack. Glory to God. So fell the Berlin Wall — so fell the USSR. Prayer is the key.

    We do see signs prophesied by Jesus and many before him — and Peter and John after his ascension. (Luke 21:28) May we all be contstant in prayer for one another — and for the continued growth of faith in Jesus! He is forever faithful to us.


  29. SFDBWV says:

    Maru has all the heavy rains been effecting you out there on the west coast?

    I used to have a couple uncles that lived in Eureka, though they are long gone, I still think of them anytime anything occurs in that area of the country.

    I wonder which will get more attention this month Christmas on December 25 or the end of civilization on December 21?


  30. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Steve!

    Got to hear from a prayer partner down the line that they got 6″ of rain in about 48 hours at Crescent City last week, north of Eureka. Yowza! That’s a bunch. Flooding is an issue, but also mud slides and the undermining of redwoods and power-poles. Eureka is a nice town.

    I am 300-some miles north of there. We got about half that amount in the same time. Very wet, but no cold at sea level. Much snow in the mountains to the east of us. Don’t look for much freeze here — but plenty of water!

    It seems to me we are watching and waiting for the coming of our Messiah this Advent/Christmas Season perhaps more than ever before. God is good. If he brings us to it, he will bring us through it.


  31. Regina says:

    Good Evening All,

    Hope all is well in your lives. Just dropped in to say hello and I hope to chat with you soon. All is well in my life and I’m enjoying this holiday season! :)

    HAPPY HOLIDAYS to all…

  32. BruceC says:


    Your post of 12/5/12, 10:05 AM is spot on. I just finished reading an article on a news/politically oriented conservative website that was talking about trends in politics and the effects of certain voter blocks upon it.
    They highlighted the generation born from 1980 and on and the facts they brought out are startling and saddening.
    Moral issues have less and less of an impact in their thought process and their total dependence on technology is almost frightening. But in this I do see God working. Not too long ago many students of the Bible wondered how every ‘eye shall see Him”. Rev_1:7 “Behold, he cometh with clouds; and every eye shall see him, and they also which pierced him: and all kindreds of the earth shall wail because of him. Even so, Amen.” But when one sees the use of technology today we no longer wonder.
    A few weeks ago my wife and I were in the only city in our county. It is a very small city and is home to one state college and one private college that long ago was a seminary (the founders would be sickened). Any way the students are everywhere. There is one particular place on the Main St. where several buses can park at once and load and unload students from campus. There must have been about thirty students hanging around waiting for the bus. Not ONE of them was talking to another. All of them were talking on their cell phone or text messaging, or using their hand held device in one way or another. My wife and I were stunned. What a shame! Where is the “personal” interaction without electronics? I am sorrowful when I see where we have come. I am not down on technology, just sad about what it has done to so many people. It, like many things, is a two-edged sword; having both good results and bad. And God Word also being a two-edged sword can be viewed as good or bad according to what side of the fence you are on. To the forces of evil it is called bad. But to us who are saved by the grace, mercy, and love of our heavenly Father it is all good. One side of the blade shows His judgment and wrath upon an unbelieving and Christ-rejecting world; and the other edge shows His grace and mercy; and the only Salvation He has provided.

    Soli Deo Gloria!

  33. phpatato says:

    What is the BIBLE?

    The Bible contains the mind of God, the state of man, the way of salvation, the doom of sinners, and the happiness of believers. Its doctrines are holy, its precepts are binding, its histories are true, and its decisions are immutable. Read it to be wise, believe it to be safe, and practice it to be holy. It contains light to direct you, food to support you, and comfort to cheer you.

    It is the traveler’s map, the pilgrim’s staff, the pilot’s compass, the soldier’s sword, and the Christian’s charter. Here Paradise is restored, Heaven opened, and the gates of hell disclosed. Christ is its grand subject, our good the design, and the glory of God its end.

    It should fill the memory, rule the heart, and guide the feet. Read it slowly, frequently, and prayerfully. It is a mine of wealth, a paradise of glory, and a river of pleasure. It is given you in life, will be opened at the judgment, and be remembered forever. It involves the highest responsibility, will reward the greatest labor, and will condemn all who trifle with its sacred contents.

    Anonymous – taken from The Preachers Word by Ken Weliever

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