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The Lion and The Lamb

Let’s take the upside down nature of the kingdom of God a bit further.

If I understand authors like N.T. Wright and Gregory Boyd, here’s why they are suggesting that the holy war of God is a real battle— waged in terms and drama that are understood only by seeing the Lamb-like heart of a Lion.

According to the book of Revelation, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah wins heroic standing by his surprise unveiling as The Lamb of God. His strategy of victory succeeds not by conventional machines of war, but by The Word of God who comes into the battle with the Sword of truth coming from his mouth.

The mother of all battles is a war of deception waged by the Great Deceiving Serpent who has misled the world— as he did in the Garden by accusing our Creator of not being as good as our first parents had been led to believe.

By allowing himself to be crucified, Jesus appears to have lost the battle, only to reappear as God’s ultimate answer to the challenge of his goodness.

The Lion of the tribe of Judah wins the war of deception by accepting a crown of thorns, and by becoming the Lamb of God who— in being known, defeats the lie.

While I don’t know how far to press this explanation of our Lord’s crucifixion as the key to understanding the Revelation of the goodness of the King and kingdom of God, there is so much here that seems undeniable—I am beginning to wonder…


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  1. SFDBWV says:

    Philosophy, theology, Bible study. It is somewhat disturbing when you look at all of the religions of the world. Not so much because of their differences, but because of their similarities.

    From an unbelievers view, all religion could actually be a human condition, common to all peoples of every nation, culture, race and language.

    The Book of Revelation is strictly a Christian belief with heavy Jewish overtones, rife with Jewish OT/Torah rites, rituals, symbols, and prophesy.

    In order to understand *what* a sacrificial lamb is you have to have understanding of the formation of the Laws of Moses, the structure of Judaism.

    In understanding how the Law came about the entire knowledge of the Books of Genesis and Exodus has to be understood and believed as well.

    In other world religions there are also explanations of how we became to be and of a creator god.

    However, unless I am misinformed, only Christianity presents a creator who is willing to sacrifice Himself for His creation.

    Disturbing to me is the premise of the Book of Job that God has to prove something to Satan. What presence does Satan, a created being himself, have that God has to prove anything to him at all?

    What untold story of this *war* in heaven explains why Satan would have such influence as to persuade 1/3 of the angels to abandon God and follow him?

    Is it this same influence that corrupted man, or is it a parallel story?

    Meant solely to show God as so superior a being that He is willing to die for His creation.

    Why would He have to “prove” anything to the devil or to mankind?

    What is it Mart that you are beginning to wonder?

    52 degrees, clear and cool this morning.

    Steve

  2. foreverblessed says:

    When I was reading Mart, I thought he wanted to go deeper on the thought: Jesus was conquerer by being dying to his enemies.
    The victory was won by dying!

    How deep and far and wide that Revelation is?!!

    And do I get the real meaning of the victory in my life.

    I was thinking about the story of missionaries who went to South America, with their families, to preach the gospel to native indians.
    The two men, the husbands were killed by the indians. But the indian people felt remorse by what they had done to the men, and their hearts were moved, and the family of the missionaries could preach the gospel after all.
    Here I found the meaning of suffering that is still needed, so as to be able to preach the Gospel.
    I hope I am clear in what I wanted to say, if you do not understand, please ask friendly what I meant to say:
    The native people’s heart was touched by their own behavior, that did cost the two men their lives. So you could say: These two men were like a lamb that was slain, and victory was won over the native people.

    Paul is saying in that he was willing to suffer where there was still a need. And years ago I would reason:
    Jesus death was the only sacrifice needed for us to be saved, what could our suffering add to it?

    Well, there was a job for the Holy Spirit to teach me, slowly, bit by bit.

  3. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart and Friends —

    The character of God is the right-side-up of the universe, yet here we are in this world filled with doubt — unable to accept the utter goodness of our Creator God.

    The Lion does indeed have the heart of a Lamb — ultimate cosmic power with compassion so great we mortals cannot fathom its immensity.

    God has sent this Word many times — as He spoke to King Zarubbabel through the Prophet Zechariah:

    “Not by might nor by power, but by My Spirit, says the Lord of hosts.” It boggles the mind.

    It seems to me, Mart, that “wonder”, as you say, is the only possible and appropriate state of mind in the face of this eternal paradox.

    Blessings,
    Maru

    PS Getting as much as possible done this a.m. — we have a scorching forecast for the next few days — 39C/103F or higher today. Currently 22C/71F and clear.

  4. foreverblessed says:

    Col 1:24
    Now I rejoice in what was suffered for you, and I fill up in my flesh what is still lacking in regard to Christ’s afflictions, for the sake of His Body, which is the church

    Still lacking???? Was Jesus’sacrifice not enough???

    So here is a deep truth Mart is pondering about, wondering about.
    Suffering for the sake of the Gospel is not a popular theme.

    And the theme of the suffering of Job blends into it as well.
    Street often talks about Job, so she (or he) could maybe explain it better then I do.

    It is not only the hearts of the unsaved people that can be touched by our suffering, as I was describing in my above comment, but it is also our suffering that is a sign to the evil spirit world:
    We show in our suffering, as did Job, that a real child of God loves God unconditionally.
    Satan was saying: Well, fair enough: You God bless Job all around, so no wonder he loves You.
    Job was the one who was to show to Satan that a true and honost child of God would love God for who He is, not for the benefit of obeying Him.
    That is a conditional love, we love God because He blesses us. So if we obey Him, than we tell God: Now You have to bless me!

    So if we are suffering now, in a sickness, in adverse situations, one reason could be that God is showing to the evil spirit world, that, no matter what, we will love God, and trust Him.
    We totally trust God that what He is doing, will in due time, even if it it a billion years from now, will be the best way.
    Saving ALL that He has made.

    Col 1:16-20
    For by Him all things were created: things in heaven and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or powers or rulers or authorities; all things were created by Him and for Him.
    He is above all things, and in Him all things hold together.
    And He is the head of the body, the church; He is the Beginning and the Firstborn from among the dead, so that in everything He might have the supremacy.
    For God was pleased to have all His fulness dwell in Him,
    AND THROUGH HIM TO RECONCILE TO HIMSELF ALL THINGS, WHETHER THING ON EARTH OR THINGS IN HEAVEN, BY MAKING PEACE THROUGH HIS BLOOD, SHED ON THE CROSS.

  5. foreverblessed says:

    GOd bless you in all your chores, Maru.
    It is dry now, it is already 16.25 pm, and I have to go on the ladder an paint the window frames. There has been much rain, sunshine, then rain again. But it has been very dry, the rain is very welcome. 22’C/ 72′ F
    (Thanks for adding the Celsius)

  6. foreverblessed says:

    oeps, not 16.25 but 15.25, typo.

  7. foreverblessed says:

    39 ‘ C is really very very hot! Sterkte, we would say in Dutch, meaning something like: Strenght to you, to endure under the hard circumstances.

  8. poohpity says:

    To me that Lamb had the heart of a Lion because He allowed Himself to be treated as He did for the sake of those He loved. That took the ultimate courage. He did not need to prove His power in fact laid it down to be that sacrifice that would cover the sins of the world.

    Later when He comes as the Conquering King all those who would have come to Him will have done so, so that His descendants would be many, then evil will be finally destroyed and a New Heaven and Earth will be made, this time without the presence of the fallen, to lead others into deception.

    It seems to lead the sheep He had to become a sheep. It seems He wanted to lead from love, empathy not fear.

    The Word of Truth explained to Isaiah the reasons;

    Yet it was our weaknesses he carried;
    it was our sorrows that weighed him down.
    And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God,
    a punishment for his own sins!
    5
    But he was pierced for our rebellion,
    crushed for our sins.
    He was beaten so we could be whole.
    He was whipped so we could be healed.
    6
    All of us, like sheep, have strayed away.
    We have left God’s paths to follow our own.
    Yet the Lord laid on him
    the sins of us all.

    He was oppressed and treated harshly,
    yet he never said a word.
    He was led like a lamb to the slaughter.
    And as a sheep is silent before the shearers,
    he did not open his mouth.
    8
    Unjustly condemned,
    he was led away.[b]
    No one cared that he died without descendants,
    that his life was cut short in midstream.[c]
    But he was struck down
    for the rebellion of my people.
    9
    He had done no wrong
    and had never deceived anyone.
    But he was buried like a criminal;
    he was put in a rich man’s grave.

    But it was the Lord’s good plan to crush him
    and cause him grief.
    Yet when his life is made an offering for sin,
    he will have many descendants.
    He will enjoy a long life,
    and the Lord’s good plan will prosper in his hands.
    11
    When he sees all that is accomplished by his anguish,
    he will be satisfied.
    And because of his experience,
    my righteous servant will make it possible
    for many to be counted righteous,
    for he will bear all their sins.
    12
    I will give him the honors of a victorious soldier,
    because he exposed himself to death.
    He was counted among the rebels.
    He bore the sins of many and interceded for rebels.

  9. jeff1 says:

    God’s truth is what matters and will prevail though it is a mystery to me how.

    When I think of how God turns up when I need Him most those momentarily connections tell me that God is a personal God.

    It is difficult to see how God works in the world because evil gets in the way and I doubt God but on a personal level God is there for us when we need Him to be.

    This truth is what keeps my faith steadfast even in circumstances I would rather not be in and when I look at the characters in the bible they came through much worse circumstances for their faith.

    Living below in this old sinful world
    Hardly a comfort can afford
    Striving alone to face temptation so
    Now won’t you tell me

    Where could I go but to the Lord
    Where could I go oh where could I go
    Seeking the refuge for my soul
    Needing a friend to save me in the end
    Won’t you tell me
    Where could I go but to the Lord

    Life here is grand with friends I love so dear
    Comfort I get from God’s own word
    Yet when I face that chilling hand of death
    Won’t you tell me
    Where could I go but to the Lord

    Where could I go but to the Lord
    Where could I go oh where could I go
    Seeking the refuge for my soul
    Needing a friend to save me in the end
    Won’t you tell me
    Where could I go but to the Lord

  10. poohpity says:

    “Clean” Natalie Grant

    I see shattered
    You see whole
    I see broken
    But You see beautiful
    And You’re helping me to believe
    You’re restoring me piece by piece

    There’s nothing too dirty
    that You can’t make worthy
    You wash me in mercy
    I am clean

    There’s nothing too dirty
    that You can’t make worthy
    You wash me in mercy
    I am clean

    What was dead now lives again
    My heart’s beating, beating inside my chest
    Oh I’m coming alive with joy and destiny
    Cause You’re restoring me piece by piece

    There’s nothing too dirty
    that You can’t make worthy
    You wash me in mercy
    I am clean, oh yeah

    Washed in the blood of Your sacrifice
    Your blood flowed red and made me white
    My dirty rags are purified
    I am clean

    Washed in the blood of Your sacrifice
    Your blood flowed red and made me white
    My dirty rags are purified
    I’m clean, oh I’m clean, I’m clean
    Oh You made me
    You wash me
    Clean
    Oh You made me clean

  11. street says:

    eternal paradox
    the holy war of God is a real battle— waged in terms and drama that are understood only by seeing the Lamb-like heart of a Lion.

    the paradox of accomplishing the Divine Plan. man fell by trying to be like God by his own self-centered will and choice that went counter to God’s will and intent. yes it was a high aspiration of man and God, but a small and difficult detour in the plan of God. then comes the second Adam. the Lion of Judah. humble and loving, God centered to the point of a painful death to redeem that which was dead and lost to God.

    While I don’t know how far to press this explanation of our Lord’s crucifixion as the key to understanding the Revelation of the goodness of the King…
    1 John 3:16 We know love by this, that He laid down His life for us; and we ought to lay down our lives for the brethren.

    the goodness of His love magnified in loving the unlovable by His children. love only comes from God if from man it will not last.

    on a side note when reading Revelation you get a picture of the true Temple in Heaven where these events take place. the interesting part is Jesus is hidden in heaven,Throne of God, and the Saints with Him hidden.

  12. street says:

    Disturbing to me is the premise of the Book of Job that God has to prove something to Satan. What presence does Satan, a created being himself, have that God has to prove anything to him at all?

    God accepted the bet from satan, that job practiced disinterested religion, believed God for nothing.
    satan could not understand that people could do things with out benefit. the deceiver was deceived. satan lost his bet and job got to see God’s face. not only that, job was willing to return to the ash heap in sack cloth and ashes.

  13. street says:

    in other words, job encounter with God changed him in such a way that it was joy to live on the ash heap knowing this God. James, consider it all joy my brothers……….

    to see God and live. sin did a real number on man. God put an end to sin and death at the cross. we would not understand the cross without the Resurrection or the Holy Spirit.

    Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

    21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.

  14. street says:

    According to the book of Revelation, the Lion of the Tribe of Judah wins heroic standing by his surprise unveiling as The Lamb of God.

    strength/power revealed in humble selfless holy love that comes from God not self. no love no good no purpose no anything apart from God. thinking of an old song, ” any one can see, nothing really matters to me.” “me” did not care about anything. so sad. leads to despair and death. tough place to be.

  15. poohpity says:

    Mart, I do not understand what you were meaning by beginning to wonder?

  16. street says:

    beginning to wonder……just getting my toe wet in the water of God’s love yet on full display

    1 Corinthians 13:8
    Love never fails; but if there are gifts of prophecy, they will be done away; if there are tongues, they will cease; if there is knowledge, it will be done away. 9 For we know in part and we prophesy in part; 10 but when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away. 11 When I was a child, I used to speak like a child, think like a child, reason like a child; when I became a man, I did away with childish things. 12 For now we see in a mirror dimly, but then face to face; now I know in part, but then I will know fully just as I also have been fully known. 13 But now faith, hope, love, abide these three; but the greatest of these is love.

  17. street says:

    a real battle— waged in terms and drama that are understood only by seeing the Lamb-like heart of a Lion.

    the war over what and how truth and love are to determined. to define what is right honorable and good.

    to see truth in away you could never see otherwise.

    to know God.

  18. poohpity says:

    street, were you trying to answer my question to Mart about what he was saying? It could fit “to see truth in a way you could never see otherwise” but I would still like to hear from him, thank you for your attempt to answer for him but I know he has seen many things before so I was just confused by it.

  19. street says:

    sorry poo, i was just thinking with a laptop keyboard.

  20. SFDBWV says:

    The Book of Revelation is the one Book that most any knowledgeable individual cautions other Christians in reading.

    One reason is the heavy use of traditional symbolism and Jewish customs and rituals which are all over its pages.

    Too many Christians forgo the intense study of the Torah in favor of staying to the NT and so are confused when attempting to understand Revelation.

    In truth it is a bit much for the most informed of scholars to fully understand. As well as that supernatural ability that The Word of God has in revealing Himself when the time is right for it to be received.

    One of my comforts in reading Revelation is found in the simple sentence of verse 25 (Revelation 2:25 KJV), “But that which ye have hold fast till I come.”

    It is comforting to know we don’t have to know everything and in our weakness we can’t be perfect, but we can hold tight to what we already know and that is good enough.

    In Revelation 4:7 KJV we see that the first beast round about the throne of God is like a lion and in Revelation 5:6 KJV we see a Lamb as it had been slain.

    This has always intrigued me that at the end of the Church age on earth the Lamb of God is still as He was slain.

    His job now to open the Book and loose the seals, Revelation 5:2 KJV.

    In Revelation 5:12 KJV we see the lamb start to become the Lion as introduced in Revelation 5:5 KJV, “The lion of the tribe of Juda, the root of David”.

    Yes there is a lot to wonder in the dual role of Lion and Lamb in regards of their both being Jesus of Nazareth the Son of God and His purpose and use of God the Father.

    56 degrees with some light fog this morning.

    Steve

  21. jeff1 says:

    My dad never questioned ‘why’ there was suffering in his life or the world because he understood God better than I did.

    When I went to work the person in charge started to laugh for no apparent reason and I realized he was laughing at me and so I ask him what had I said that was so funny and he replied I never fail to ask ‘why’.

    He said no matter what instruction he gave me I wanted to know why I was carrying out the instruction and so now he knew before I would do what he ask I would ask ‘why’ and he found it funny because few did.

    I was not even aware that I did it but unlike my dad I have always wondered ‘why’ so much suffering in individuals lives and the world at large.

    My dad ‘just got it’ that in a fallen world you trust God first and last.

    He understood that trusting God meant not looking at the difficulty but looking for a solution throughout the difficulty.

    My weakness is to focus on the difficulty and not the solution and why I get distracted and despair.

    God knows His children and why He is best at directing our pathways because one person’s strength is another person’s weakness and yet God understands the ‘why’ and the ‘solution’ to the ‘why’.

    Known only to Him are the great hidden secrets
    I’ll fear not the darkness when my flame shall dim
    I know not what the future holds
    But I know who holds the future
    It’s a secret known only to Him

    In this world of fear and doubt
    On my knees I ask the question
    Why a lonely, heavy cross I may bear
    Then he tells me in my prayer
    Its because I am trustworthy
    He gives me strength far more than my share

    Known only to Him are the great hidden secrets
    I’ll fear not the darkness when my flame shall dim
    I know not what the future holds
    But I know who holds the future
    It’s a secret known only to Him.

  22. poohpity says:

    I have often thought about the unseen battles that rage all around us. Just as God opened the eyes of Elisha’s companion when surrounded by the King of Syria and his great army in 2 Kings 6:15-17;

    “When the servant of the man of God rose early in the morning and went out, behold, an army with horses and chariots was all around the city. And the servant said, “Alas, my master! What shall we do?” 16 He said, “Do not be afraid, for those who are with us are more than those who are with them.” 17 Then Elisha prayed and said, “O Lord, please open his eyes that he may see.” So the Lord opened the eyes of the young man, and he saw, and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.”

    Then we are taught in Ephesians that our battles are against the unseen forces but we can be prepared by remembering to dawn our spiritual armor daily in preparation. Knowing we are saved our mind is protected, our faith and His truth guards our hearts, knowing God’s Word as to not be deceived and as our only weapon against those unseen forces of the enemy who seeks to destroy our minds, hearts, souls and our relationship with God and others. Then we have peace that we share knowing the Lion of the tribe of Judah will protect His pride at first in a meek way by being lead like a lamb to slaughter but later as a conquering King.

    But the things we do not see that are there can leave anyone into wondering.

  23. SFDBWV says:

    Intelligent life will always ask why.

    In mythology Pandora’s curiosity unleashed all of the ills upon mankind.

    In Genesis Eve’s observation of the forbidden fruits appetizing lure and the serpent’s questioning her understanding of “what God had said” did indeed end up unleashing all of the ills upon mankind.

    Most any of us have heard the warning that “curiosity killed the cat.”

    It is in large part that curiosity in mankind that in conjunction with God’s calling causes man to seek God.

    Once again I offer Leonard Cohen’s songs as a beautiful look at searching for “Truth”.

    “Show Me the way” and “If it be Your Will”

    It just may be in the end of all things that this entire story of man and God is simply an answer to “why”.

    Along the way to our understanding we reach that point where knowing isn’t the most important thing at all, perhaps it is just that blind trust in God that satisfies the most. And why no longer matters.

    The Lion will lay down with the Lamb and children will play with the poisonous snake unharmed and unafraid.

    Steve

  24. poohpity says:

    Thank God for His Revelation to us. We know that evil does not prevail and God has many more for us than those who are against us. Even though we may not see, they are there.

  25. jeff1 says:

    To my way of thinking some are better at loving, others at being faithful and yet more at having hope in God.

    Perhaps it is the combination of our faith, hope and love that pleases God as He understands our weakness in times of trials and our dependency on each other to understand His ways.

    God is after all an inclusive God and yet I do not always see Him as such because my prejudices which I do not always admit to get in the way of my vision to see Him as such.

    It is in accepting this that helps me to understand why it is His all knowing that triumphs over my ‘why’s’ and so I do get to the stage where as Steve says blind trust becomes more important to me than my need to ask ‘why’.

    (Why me Lord? What have I ever done
    To deserve even one of the pleasures I’ve known
    Tell me Lord what did I ever do to deserve loving you
    And the kindness you’ve shown)

    Lord heavenly Jesus I praise Him
    So help me Jesus I know what I am
    Now that I know that I needed you so
    Help me Jesus, my souls in your hands

    (Try me Lord, if you think there’s a way I can ever repay
    All I’ve taken from you
    Maybe Lord I can show someone else
    What I’ve been through myself
    On my way back to you)

    Lord heavenly Jesus I praise Him
    So help me Jesus I know what I am, Oh yes!
    Now that I know that I needed you so
    Help me Jesus my soul’s in your hands
    Jesus my soul’s in your hands

  26. street says:

    thinking of the beast in the midst of the throne steve mentioned. i have wondered about this. mentioning the image of these beast correspond to the four Gospels in their theme and purpose. lion ox man and eagle. royal servant man and God. from the world perspective these beast are monstrous and fearful to be sure. from the elect perspective God comes into focus. not a monster at all, yet still a fearful encounter. paul encourages boldness and faith in His love and faithfulness, Christ.

    recently i had discovered a newness or freshness of the presents of God. let me explain. someone told me awhile back that Romans 8 was the pinnacle of the Christian Faith. i could expect nothing more from God and that is as good as it gets. hogwash!

    22 The Lord’s lovingkindnesses indeed never cease,
    For His compassions never fail.
    23 They are new every morning;
    Great is Your faithfulness.
    24 “The Lord is my portion,” says my soul,
    “Therefore I have hope in Him.”

  27. street says:

    Lion and the Lamb
    we sometimes overlook the purpose of Jesus first coming.

    Luke 19:10 For the Son of Man has come to seek and to save that which was lost.”

    therefore requiring a Lamb.

    John 1:29
    The next day he saw Jesus coming to him and said, “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

    The Lion!

    we have not seen the Lion as of yet, but we saw His appearance in the Old Testament which any non-believer will be willing to point out to you.

    poo mention the Scripture of the Victory ride on His return with the Deed to the cosmos.

    we have an inheritance and blessing because of what God has done in Christ Jesus and His Holy Spirit.

    Lord my i only see you. the earth is filled with His Glory!

    children keep yourselves from idols.

  28. foreverblessed says:

    Of topic, I was glad Cbrown had commented again!
    ” Out of the eye, out of the heart”
    A dutch saying:
    ” Uit het oog, uit het hart”

    But now I remember to pray for his prison ministry, for the inmates.
    God bless you, and all with you.

  29. street says:

    there is so much here that seems undeniable—I am beginning to wonder… how wide, how long, how high, and how deep his love is.

    Jesus life death and resurrection, for one purpose to bring us to the Father. it was the Father’s love that sent Jesus and Jesus agreed. these two destroy all human thinking philosophy and common sense.

  30. street says:

    but by The Word of God who comes into the battle with the Sword of truth coming from his mouth.

    seems to me we need the truth in our hearts.

  31. lovely says:

    I guess we will have to wonder about God, in my context i called it meditating on the word of God. In our whole life we’re called to seek God and know Him , therefore he puts in each of our hearts the hunger to know why. What Jesus did on the grace its the whole message about grace. We’ll never really fully know God , as the bible puts it , in this short life. But we’re always discovering the creator, and coming to God directly has been made possible because of the Lamb, the perfect Lamb of God.

  32. SFDBWV says:

    it is so very pleasing to see you post again lovely. It is strange how so many of the people here have become memorable and dear to me.

    I think after all that our Lord wants us to be good and kind and respectful with each other always showing love.

    Thank you lovely for always being lovely.

    Steve

  33. poohpity says:

    I agree street and lovely there is so much we can not understand or see about God. We are taught things that have more to do with church tradition and ritual often than just the basics found in God’s word. If we are not even aware of most of our own behaviors how can we see the things of God clearly. Then when He opens our minds and hearts to see or hear it gives me a sense of awe and wonder often but not to really be satisfied but to know and learn more.

  34. poohpity says:

    God gave us this magnificent thing called a brain that can store so much but often we do not even use 1/1000th of it. Can you imagine if we ever fully put it to use?

  35. street says:

    Then when He opens our minds and hearts to see or hear it gives me a sense of awe and wonder often but not to really be satisfied but to know and learn more.

    seems to me we will not be satisfied till we see God.
    pure in heart comes to mind along with death of pride. satan said you will not die and God became dead to us. Jesus says trust me and you will never die. yet we fear a part of us will die, maybe the dead pride part that killed God? don’t think we will be satisfied till we love like God loves, and with this God still chooses the circumstance of the environment we live and love in, not self. for He is God.

  36. street says:

    yes poo God gave us a brain, but the heart is where faith lives not the brain. the two together with a body can do God’s will here and now. unity or oneness comes to mind.

    Romans 8:13
    for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

    thinking about the bruising Jesus received at the cross and the bruising satan received at the resurrection.

    And between your seed and her seed;
    He shall bruise you on the head,
    And you shall bruise him on the heel.”

    the bruising of the head? the children of God will not be under his headship anymore. after darkness, light. under grace…..

  37. street says:

    our daily bread 8/4/2017

  38. poohpity says:

    How can one leave the brain out of faith? Is it not the brain that causes the heart to function? Don’t all parts have to function together?

  39. poohpity says:

    How can we love God without our mind(brain)? How can we be transformed without the renewing of our mind?

  40. poohpity says:

    How can we believe without our brain?

  41. street says:

    14
    And these are but the outer fringe of his works;
    how faint the whisper we hear of him!
    Who then can understand the thunder of his power?”

    Job

    the Lion and the Lamb

  42. street says:

    Psalm 49:3
    My mouth will speak words of wisdom; the meditation of my heart will give you understanding. Who is speaking here?

    Psalm 119:34
    Give me understanding, so that I may keep your law and obey it with all my heart.

    Proverbs 2:2
    turning your ear to wisdom and applying your heart to understanding—

    Proverbs 3:5
    Trust in the Lord with all your heart and lean not on your own understanding;

    Jeremiah 3:15
    Then I will give you shepherds after my own heart, who will lead you with knowledge and understanding.

    Mark 12:33
    To love him with all your heart, with all your understanding and with all your strength, and to love your neighbor as yourself is more important than all burnt offerings and sacrifices.”

    Ephesians 4:18
    They are darkened in their understanding and separated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them due to the hardening of their hearts.

    Philippians 4:7
    And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

    Colossians 2:2
    My goal is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love, so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in order that they may know the mystery of God, namely, Christ,

  43. street says:

    Is it not the brain that causes the heart to function?

    the heart can function by itself, automaticity, the brain can control blood pressure and the heart rate. the heart stops because of timing problem or a lack of 02, rest, or nutrients. the heart is a muscle with a timing system. it is self contained organ but not an independent being. it’s like everything working together to keep it going, yet the other systems are indispensable. side note the life is in the blood, not the heart mind or stomach.

    thinking we have no life apart from God.
    Emanuel.

  44. poohpity says:

    Oh street the heart can not function by itself it is the brain that tells it what to do. The body is not even considered dead until there is no more activity in the brain. With the things of faith the heart and brain become one in purpose, functioning together. I really do not know how or what any of this has to do with the topic unless it is the wondering part which is an activity of the brain(mind).

  45. street says:

    the brain can not tell the heart to stop. it can tell it to speed up or slow down. control by brain stem or adrenal glands on kidneys. cells in the brain begin to die after 6 minutes after the heart stops.

    my heart of sin can function quite easily without logic or brain activity. my brain actually takes up sinful thoughts out of the heart and amuse it’s self with whats in the heart. the very things Jesus came to remove.

    battle ground of the heart. love darkness or light not both.

  46. street says:

    isn’t repentance a change of heart? when confronted with truth. the way the truth and the life.

  47. poohpity says:

    If the brain told the heart to stop it would be committing suicide. Repentance is a change of mind. I think you may be taking a change of heart to literally. If you are walking on the left then turn right that is a function of the brain. The heart spoken of in the bible actually happens in the mind but it effects compassion and feelings which are MATTERS of the heart as people associate the heart with love but the heart only pumps blood it is not meant literally but it does give the body life.

  48. SFDBWV says:

    “Cast not your pearls before swine…”

    It is an interesting comment from our Lord given the fact that oysters were a forbidden food of the Law of Moses.

    A pearl, a precious “gem” started from a speck of sand and made precious from a long life of irritation to the oyster.

    God is a spirit being.

    The world we live in is a creation from an unseen realm of existence. Whereas we ‘think” we live in the “real” world, we live only in a part of what exists.

    When we die our body decays into dust, yet everything we are lives on in the spirit real.

    Every thought every emotion, every memory lives on.

    The parts of our bodies we have here on earth are here because here we need them in order to live here, but they have a counterpart in that spiritual realm.

    Here in this world we feel in our spirits from different areas of our bodies. Love is felt in the heart and anyone who has ever had a broken heart can attest to that.

    The Holy Spirit often speaks to us from our stomachs as most any can attest to having a “gut” feeling over a matter.

    Our hands are our action from the desires of our will.

    Our eyes often deceive us.

    The brain is the most dangerous area of our earthly being as it is there that our will collides with God’s.

    When we are in sync with God’s will our heart knows it our spirit knows it, our hands are busy doing His work and our eyes recognize Him in everything we see.

    We are at peace.

    When our bodies die our spirits live on without a physical brain, heart, hands or a gut feeling to guide us. Yet we still ‘feel”, still think, and are still aware.

    That is if you believe in life after death. Or believe in what the Word of God has had to say…

    What is your gut feeling on that? What does your heart tell you?

    The war is between the intellect and the supernatural. Between the “Truth” and the lie.

    Steve

  49. poohpity says:

    It would seem the very essence of who we are is locked into our spiritual being. Have you ever noticed that even though our physical bodies age and decay(2 Cor 4:16 NLT; 2 Cor 5:1 NLT), we are the same person we have ever been because the very base of who we are lies in our spiritual being that will one day be given a resurrected body that will not decay. Jesus said, Matt 26:29 and Revelation 2:7 NIV so we will eat and drink in heaven. The term do not lose heart means never give up which is an act of the will(brain).

    I was thinking or wondering if what Mart was saying is that many people have the idea that God is harsh and mean spirited but by what we have seen in Jesus that proving strength and power for those who are actually strong and powerful is not proven by shows of force, or warring or oppression but is rather shown by grace, kindness and walking away from fights rather than to them.

    I have known some very strong and powerful men and they had nothing to prove to anyone, so their behavior reflected kindness, gentleness and care rather than pushing people around and demanding their own way to be followed. That is similar to how Jesus lived. At first sight one may be lead to believe that Jesus was weak because of what He ALLOWED to happen to Him but that took the strength of a Lion for the good of the people He loved.

  50. poohpity says:

    So wouldn’t it be a war between the flesh, that will die one day, and living for the spiritual things that last forever. Which one do we give in to most often?

  51. poohpity says:

    It would seem that the deceptive seed about God that the adversary planted continues to mislead people even till this day.

  52. street says:

    How can one leave the brain out of faith?

    knowledge puffs up, love edifies.
    the heart is the center of the being. there are only two camps that it can be in. light or darkness. if darkness, how great is that darkness? looking at the brain, can it explain love? no, the heart can. can the brain explain hope? no but the heart can. it’s like trying to explain abrahams three day walk with his son, under a sentence of death. trying to explain the cross? yes Christ died to save us, but it was His love for His Father that He did it. Jesus took on flesh to do His Fathers will, in which adam failed. Glory to God in the Highest and peace and good will to mankind through our Lord and savior Jesus, The Christ.

  53. street says:

    If the brain told the heart to stop it would be committing suicide.

    4 Then Jonathan spoke well of David to Saul his father and said to him, “Do not let the king sin against his servant David, since he has not sinned against you, and since his deeds have been very beneficial to you. 5 For he took his life in his hand and struck the Philistine, and the Lord brought about a great deliverance for all Israel; you saw it and rejoiced. Why then will you sin against innocent blood by putting David to death without a cause?” 6 Saul listened to the voice of Jonathan, and Saul vowed, “As the Lord lives, he shall not be put to death.”

    Acts 2:24 But God raised Him up again, putting an end to the agony of death, since it was impossible for Him to be held in its power.

    Romans 8:13 for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live.

    this is a work of God, not man. you must be born again.

  54. jeff1 says:

    The struggle is in the mind as the heart can be willing but it is the voices in my head that haunt me and make me feel guilty for my sins of omission and commission.

    The bible says there will be deception in the end days and so we are to expect it but when we keep focused on Christ we know He has overcome the deception.

    It is not about my understanding but about God’s consistency in keeping His promises.

  55. poohpity says:

    Grace and peace be yours in abundance through the KNOWLEDGE of God and of Jesus our Lord.

    3 His divine power has given us everything we need for a godly life through our KNOWLEDGE of him who called us by his own glory and goodness. 4 Through these he has given us his very great and precious promises, so that through them you may participate in the divine nature, having escaped the corruption in the world caused by evil desires.

    5 For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith goodness; and to goodness, KNOWLEDGE; 6 and to KNOWLEDGE, self-control; and to self-control, perseverance; and to perseverance, godliness; 7 and to godliness, mutual affection; and to mutual affection, love. 8 For if you possess these qualities in increasing measure, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your KNOWLEDGE of our Lord Jesus Christ. 2 Peter 1:2-8

  56. poohpity says:

    street, every part of the body is there for a God given purpose. The brain can not function without oxygen and blood that the heart pumps and the heart does not pump without the brain telling it to do so. So the argument about which is more important is a moot point both are needed to be alive and function.

    A change of heart means: a move to a different opinion or attitude. to rethink. It is an idiom.

  57. street says:

    The struggle is in the mind as the heart can be willing but it is the voices in my head that haunt me and make me feel guilty for my sins of omission and commission.

    Hebrews 9:14 how much more will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself without blemish to God, cleanse your conscience from dead works to serve the living God?

    Hebrews 12:24 and to Jesus, the mediator of a new covenant, and to the sprinkled blood, which speaks better than the blood of Abel.

    1 John 1:9
    If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

  58. street says:

    poo i find it interesting that you magnify “KNOWLEDGE” over Christ. how can this be?

  59. jeff1 says:

    The heart can be deceptive above all else any good in me is from God and God alone. I cannot trust my own heart any more than I can trust another human being’s heart. There is too much inconsistency while God is consistent and so there is no in-between it is submission that makes me right with God, not good works, not trying to be good because I cannot the flesh will not allow it, it is my sin, my waywardness that separates me from God and that is why God wants a ‘personal relationship’ with ‘me’ to bring me to Himself.

    The gospel doesn’t change but mankind is turning men away from God and the Good News is that God seeks His children and draws them to Himself through the indwelling Holy Spirit.

    Nothing can separate us from God except ourselves but it is God who doesn’t allow it because He loves us more than we understand or ever will.

    God’s will gets done not by us but by God Himself should any man boast and once I realize that I know ‘it is finished’ and I have peace of mind not in my own understanding but in God’s promise that He will keep His word which is all He asks of me to trust His word.

    Our Father, who art in heaven,
    Hallowed be Thy Name.
    Thy Kingdom come.
    Thy will be done in earth,
    As it is in heaven.
    Give us this day our daily bread.
    And forgive us our trespasses,
    As we forgive them that trespass against us.
    And lead us not into temptation,
    But deliver us from evil.
    For Thine is the Kingdom,
    The power, and the glory,
    For ever and ever.
    Amen.

  60. poohpity says:

    Well street, if you understood without emphasizing it then I would not have had to capitalized it. Does capitalizing a word mean it is magnified over Christ? No, not in my mind. Just trying to get you to see how important KNOWLEDGE of CHRIST IS, how important using one’s brain is. Not because I say so but because that is what is taught in scripture.

  61. SFDBWV says:

    Once again I refer to the importance of the Torah in the prophetic announcement of the Messiah.

    He is shown as both the lion and Lamb.

    When He arrived what the Jewish leaders wanted was the conquering Lion. However the will of God would not be forced nor go undone. It was not the “time” for the Lion, rather it was the time for the Lion to become the Lamb.

    So in the irony of the story the very people who should have known God when He became man did not recognize Him and became the very instrument by witch God became the Lamb.

    God’s will, would not be thwarted. All happened just as God designed and according to His perfect will.

    If we all could see the road ahead as clearly as the road behind, we might all be surprised and set at ease. But as Paul stated we see through dark glass for now, but when the time is right all will be made clear.

    I often am reminded of the woman with the issue of blood, who would not let go of the hem of Jesus’ robe until she was cured.

    What her eyes seen was just a man, but what her heart seen was the answer to her prayers.

    We all need to grab hold of Jesus and not let go as all around us the distractions and lies of the world try to drag us away.

    It is that sight beyond sight within us that allows us to have peace, because we know because we know.

    One more thing; the closer you get to God the louder and more aggressive the enemy gets. Screaming and shouting like a spoiled child in an attempt to have its way. Don’t be deceived by its cunning slick half-truths nor even by its ability to quote Scripture. No matter through whom it comes, it still is that voice of the serpent in the garden.

    51 degrees and clear.

    Steve

  62. foreverblessed says:

    I really want to share so.ething that is on my heart.
    There has been some discussion about mind and heart, I see.
    I had my own meditation on mine and heart.
    To clarify, my personal history is that I wanted to know everything in my mind!
    But it is the urge of, what I believe, is the Holy Spirit, telling me, that it is ok to try to understand with the mind, but that God is looking for a person who loves Him with all his heart.
    The heart!
    The heart is what God is after!
    All of my heart,
    A heart that is cleansed, because as Street wrote: the heart is deceitful above all things.

    But, the heart is where the battle is.
    This morning I had a discussion about
    Rev 20:11-15 compared to Matthew 25:31-46

    The other person had it all worked out in Greek and conclusion was: not in the books, over and out.

    Then I asked him, what does your heart say, a d he answered, that means that what I want is more important than what God wants? I am more humble than that.

    And I was blocked!

    But after having meditated about this, I felt a deep stilling voice:
    Search in your hearts, and feel what God feels, a d know for sure that THAT is what God wants.

    I keep thinking about God, who is love, and love always hopes.
    Search in my heart what I hope, and see if it is in line with God’s Word.
    God who wrote in the Bible:
    “I want all men to repent”

    That I may increase in hope, and search more in my heart, and see what the Holy Spirit has put in there!

    But this is my way, with the Lord teaching me, what I need.

    God bless your all today!

  63. foreverblessed says:

    Sorry for all the typos
    So.ething = something
    Discussion on mine and heart = mind and heart
    a d = and

    Know Jesus Christ, get to know Him better,
    that is not only knowing in the mind, but knowing with the heart, feel what He feels, feel the heartbeat of His Heart, for the lost.

  64. poohpity says:

    Didn’t the woman just touch the hem of His garment in faith knowing that if she could just touch she would be healed? Matt 9:20-21 You are right Steve, Satan can use scripture but with the intent of not pointing people to Jesus and following after Him but for people to follow after the schemes and deception of the devil. If deception were easy to spot then it would not be deception because sometimes the adversary can come dressed as an angel of light.

    The enemy deceived Peter into asking the Lord not to go to the Cross as was part of the plan even in the temptations of Jesus in the wilderness because the enemy would be defeated. But Jesus countered those temptations with the written word of God found in the Torah. Luke 4:1-12

  65. poohpity says:

    David Jeremiah had a wonderful teaching today about the mind of Christ and our minds. Christianity is not a mindless life it is bringing our thoughts captive to Christ. We can be a saved Christian but have the thinking still of the secular world.(Romans 12:2; 1 Cor 2:16; 2 Cor 10:5;) We have to pump the word of God into our being to think in the spiritual where our treasure lies. It is not about obligation but a desire to have the mind of Christ.

  66. bubbles says:

    God is going to do whatever He wants to anyway, and who are we to ask for anything, so why bother.

  67. street says:

    When prayer seems to be unanswered, beware of trying to place the blame on someone else. That is always a trap of Satan. When you seem to have no answer, there is always a reason— God uses these times to give you deep personal instruction, and it is not for anyone else but you.

    Wisdom From Oswald Chambers

  68. street says:

    thinking about all the times i came to the deceiver and went away empty and alone. God asks us to come to Him and ask for things. when we go away we do not leave alone. we can leave and discover questions and doubts which bring us back to God. bringing these along with disappointment and failures we begin to discover Who God really is. God is a mystery to be revealed, happy are they that find Him. He is best seen in Jesus, Hebrews 1. someday yes some day seen in us.

  69. jeff1 says:

    The Promise

    I never said that I would give you silver or gold
    Or that you would never feel the fire or shiver in the cold
    But I did say you’d never walk through this world alone
    And I did say, don’t make this world your home

    I never said that fear wouldn’t find you in the night
    Or that loneliness was something you’d never have to fight
    But I did say I’d be right there by your side
    And I did say I’ll always help you fight

    ‘Cause you know I made a promise that I intend to keep
    My grace will be sufficient in every time of need
    My love will be the anchor that you can hold onto
    This is the promise, this is the promise I made to you

    I never said that friends would never turn their back on you
    Or that the world around you wouldn’t see you as a fool
    But I did say like me, you’ll surely be despised
    And I did say my ways confound the wise

    I didn’t say you’d never taste the bitter kiss of death
    Or have to walk through chilly Jordan to enter into rest
    But I did say I’d be waiting right on the other side (yeah, yeah)
    And I did say I’ll dry every tear you cry

    ‘Cause you know I’ve made a promise, that I’ve prepared a place
    And some day sooner than you think you’ll see me face to face
    And you’ll sing with the angels and a countless multitude
    This is the promise, this is the promise I’ve made to you

    So just keep on walkin’, don’t turn to the left or right
    And in the midst of darkness, let this be your light
    That hell can’t separate us and you’re gonna make it through
    This is the promise, this is the promise I made to you, oh
    This is the promise, this is the promise I made to you

  70. street says:

    A heart that is cleansed, because as Street wrote: the heart is deceitful above all things.

    oh i did not write that, it comes from Jeremiah 17:9
    “The heart is more deceitful than all else And is desperately sick; Who can understand it?

    we do need new hearts, this comes with new love. eternal love is the only kind that comes from God.

  71. foreverblessed says:

    Oh yes, ofcourse Street, I should have written: Street qouted:
    Jeremiah 17:9

  72. foreverblessed says:

    What a beautiful song, Jeff! Thanks for sharing

    It reminds me of Matthew 6:13
    In a new translation in Dutch:
    Make, that when we are tested, we will not forget you!

  73. foreverblessed says:

    Street, I have been searching for the verse in Job:
    Verse 14,
    Which chapter of Job is that?
    August 4, 9.40 am

  74. street says:

    Job 26:14 nasb

  75. street says:

    When He arrived what the Jewish leaders wanted was the conquering Lion. However the will of God would not be forced nor go undone. It was not the “time” for the Lion, rather it was the time for the Lion to become the Lamb.

    it is my understanding that the second coming is a terrible day not one prayed for to happen. Joel 2:1-3. even so when Jesus comes He brings Salvation with Him.

    Hebrews 9:28
    so Christ also, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time for salvation without reference to sin, to those who eagerly await Him.

    Isaiah 62:11
    Behold, the Lord has proclaimed to the end of the earth, Say to the daughter of Zion, “Lo, your salvation comes; Behold His reward is with Him, and His recompense before Him.”

    and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap; 35 for it will come upon all those who dwell on the face of all the earth. 36 But keep on the alert at all times, praying that you may have strength to escape all these things that are about to take place, and to stand before the Son of Man.”

    kjv 35 For as a snare shall it come on all them that dwell on the face of the whole earth.

    i can see why we all pray for rescue and light.

  76. Beloved says:

    WISDOM FROM OSWALD CHAMBERS

    The fiery furnaces are there by God’s direct permission. It is misleading to imagine that we are developed in spite of our circumstances; we are developed because of them. It is mastery in circumstances that is needed, not mastery over them. The Love of God—The Message of Invincible Consolation, 674 R

  77. Beloved says:

    WISDOM FROM OSWALD CHAMBERS

    An intellectual conception of God may be found in a bad vicious character. The knowledge and vision of God is dependent entirely on a pure heart. Character determines the revelation of God to the individual. The pure in heart see God. Biblical Ethics, 125 R

  78. street says:

    Meant solely to show God as so superior a being that He is willing to die for His creation.

    man created in the image of God willing to die to become like God. even though he had no idea what death was, now he will know. the children of God will not know what the second death is because of Christ. God’s ways really do turn this world upside down.

    21 Or does not the potter have a right over the clay, to make from the same lump one vessel for honorable use and another for common use? 22 What if God, although willing to demonstrate His wrath and to make His power known, endured with much patience vessels of wrath prepared for destruction? 23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon vessels of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory,

  79. street says:

    beloved thank you for reminding me of my bad vicious character. looking forward to being decked out in righteousness and an incorruptible body. the tendency to think more highly of myself is a re-occurring nightmare. learning to live. considering myself to be dead to the world and to the flesh and alive to God.

    Romans 6:10-12
    10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God. 11 Even so consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

    12 Therefore do not let sin reign in your mortal body so that you obey its lusts,

  80. street says:

    been thinking mart we enter into judgment too easily.
    peace and rest helps curtail judgment.
    Lord of all.

  81. jeff1 says:

    How easy it is to judge until you are in the other person’s circumstances and reality strikes home.

    God does what He does because I don’t do what I should.

    Whatever He does it is for my deliverance from a sinful character that all to often shows its ugly head.

    Without Him I could do nothing
    Without Him I’d surely fail
    Without Him I would be drifting
    Like as ship without a sail

    Without Him I would be dying
    Without Him I’d be enslaved
    Without Him life would be worthless
    But with Jesus thank God I’m saved

    Oh Jesus, oh Jesus
    Do you know Him today
    Please don’t turn Him away
    Oh Jesus, my Jesus
    Without Him how lost I would be
    Without Him how lost I would be

  82. jeff1 says:

    I know there are those who are critical of me for not reading my bible and see it as me not trying to get to know God.

    It was my experience that many I knew were knowledgeable on the bible but that knowledge had puffed them up so that they argued about who was right rather than what was right.

    I had a dad who knew what was right but back then I was to busy listening to others to pay attention to what godliness was about.

    Life is a learning curve and the more I learn the more I see there is only one just Judge and thankfully He has already found me innocent even though I have done nothing to deserve this verdict.

    It is God who is faithful to me because even when I wander from His safe keeping He always welcomes me back.

    It is in knowing this that my desire is not to be more knowledgeable but to be more godly and by more godly I mean less judgemental because I have found that the downside to becoming knowledgeable is that it is very easy to be judgemental.

    What did my dad do well that I find difficult? He walked in harmony with God. I have a tendency to get behind or run ahead but my dad walked simultaneously with God and that is not an easy thing to do by any man’s standards.

    A gift from God, I believe so.

    Walk with me Lord; walk with me
    Walk with me Lord; walk with me
    While I’m on this tedious journey Lord
    Walk with me dear Lord walk with me

    Hold my hand Lord; please hold my hand
    Hold my hand Lord; hold, hold my hand
    While I’m on this tedious journey Lord
    you gotta hold my hand, hold my hand Lord

    Walk with me Lord; walk with me
    Walk with me Lord; walk with me
    While I’m on this tedious journey
    Walk with me dear Lord walk with me

    Don’t leave me alone Lord, don’t leave me
    Don’t leave me alone Lord you said you would leave me
    While I’m on this journey Lord
    Don’t leave me alone, Oh Lord don’t leave me alone

  83. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Jeff, in what you write I see so many thinggs that come out of the bible, it is God’s heart I read!
    So keep attached to Him!
    Keep going Jeff! I stand aside and cheer you up!

  84. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Street, just overlooked that chapter.

    Thanks beloved, for giving O.C. writings!

    I was also thinking, we get to know God better when we obey what He asks of us. If we do what He says Hhe reveals more of Himself.

    And I was more of the commandments of the Old Testament, the Torah, 20 years ago I found out that it was about following Jesus in faith, and doing what Jesus said:

    Deut 18:18

    The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among your own brothers.

    You must listen to Him

    Wow, that is a command from the Torah.

    If Jesus says:

    “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. Rejoice and be glad!”

    Rejoice and be glad when people insult me? Wow, that is a command I have to learn to obey, and I ask Jesus to do that in me.
    (It was also in the song Jeff gave yesterday 2.46 pm)

    That sounds like being a Lamb, Jesus showed us how to be a Lamb

    1 Peter 2:23

    “When they hurled insults at Him, He did not retaliate, when He suffered, He made no threats. Instead He trusted Himself to Him who judges justly.”

    It is living in faith in Jesus, meaning to say, that I live while being attached to Him, like the branch to the vine, and I say: Jesus I want to be like a lamb, please help me be a lamb.

    And when I obey, God will reveal more of Himself to me.
    And I will know Him better.

  85. poohpity says:

    The unseen battle we face everyday is similar but not like going into a regular war in the flesh. Although our military have equipment and weapons to face the enemy we also have weapons and equipment to face our enemy. The battle of our military can be seen and we see the horrible consequences that result but the spiritual battles we face can have just the same destruction but more inside the unseen. So as Mart said,” His strategy of victory succeeds not by conventional machines of war, but by The Word of God who comes into the battle with the Sword of truth coming from his mouth.”

    That spiritual battle can ruin lives as well, it can make people think there is no God and He does not care for us or we are just pawns in the game of life or we have to earn God’s favor or God is mad and angry at us all the time or the many other lies people believe about God. We can flounder around like a fish out of water or know and use the Sword of Truth to battle for our lives.

    No military would muster their army into battle without teaching them how to use their equipment and armor nor does the Lord send us into this world without teaching us how to use our equipment or armor. The defensive weapon we have is the word of God so we can learn how the enemy attacks and what to do when He does, the battle between lies, deception and truth.

  86. poohpity says:

    There is a big difference in living life to it’s fullest or being oppressed no matter what circumstances we face there can be victory in and by the Lamb of God. The one thing our commander asked of us is to remain close to Him since He is the Way, the Truth and the Life.

  87. poohpity says:

    Viv, I am curious. Did your dad ever share with you the trails, struggles, doubts and hardships of those who truly follow Jesus?

  88. poohpity says:

    Not just the things that happen in life but what happens because of faith in Jesus Christ?

  89. street says:

    thinking of the paradox of the lion and the lamb.
    we like sheep have gone astray. the Shepard comes out to find us. in His presents we are lambs. then again when we go back into the world we, lambs, try to live like lions. i guess thinking or seeing this would be comical to watch. the herds of sheep around the temple at Jesus birth were probably for the scarifies offered daily. i don’t think the lambs were into the sacrificial event or their moms. yet Jesus and the Father conspired to do such a thing that can make an evil soul blameless in His presents. going back to the sheep living like lions. sure sheep speaking the truth like a double edge sword can have devastating effects. the truth is back-up by the power of God. yet the truth spoken in love with all the clarity of Christ can heal a soul, a life, a body. oh how i need this thorn in the flesh at this present time. Jesus is devastatingly beautiful. don’t be in love with death, be in love with the living Christ.

  90. street says:

    Viv, I am curious. Did your dad ever share with you the trails, struggles, doubts and hardships of those who truly follow Jesus?

    Dad did share in the trials, struggles and hardships, but i don’t think He ever doubted. Jesus and the Father are One. they decided who would be saved prior to the foundation of the world. anyone who would call on Him. our efforts or works are foolishness before God, but faith……

  91. poohpity says:

    street should I start calling you Viv or Mart. Just FYI my question to Viv had to do with her earthly dad which she would have known who I was talking about. That is why I asked her not you because I do not think you knew her dad, or did you?

  92. street says:

    poo i was paralleling the similarity of two fathers, made in his image. my focus was the Heavenly Father. seems to me not much difference in her eyes. a blessed daughter. hope Dad doesn’t get mad at me for this one. no comparable other than the Son.

  93. foreverblessed says:

    The Bible verse of today in Biblegateway is Isaiah 33:22 NIV

    For the Lord is our judge,
    the Lord is our Lawgiver,
    the Lord is our King,
    ( The Lion )
    it is He who will save us.
    ( the Lamb )

  94. poohpity says:

    str, can we agree that the question was not asked of you? If one is mindful of Christ then wouldn’t one remain silent and allow for the person asked to answer? It is called respect.

  95. Beloved says:

    Dear john you’ve got this- quit beating yourself up!
    Wisdom from today’s OS: “”The main characteristic which is the proof of the indwelling Spirit is an amazing tenderness in personal dealing, and a blazing truthfulness with regard to God’s Word. Disciples Indeed, 386 R””

  96. street says:

    If one is mindful of Christ then wouldn’t one remain silent and allow for the person asked to answer?

    thinking about God while driving today. thinking He still speaks. i can not imagine a God of love not speaking ever. thinking He upholds us and sustains us with His Word, which speaks love and rich in mercy. to be able to discern God’s Word, Speaking, and Spirit is a gift from God not man. part of the discernment would be to determine if what was heard was meant for me. as for thinking and speaking, what is this blog for? the reference was in regard to what i was thinking a rabbit trail. all roads do not lead to rome.

    John 12:32 And I, if I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself.”

  97. street says:

    OS: “”The main characteristic which is the proof of the indwelling Spirit is an amazing tenderness in personal dealing, and a blazing truthfulness with regard to God’s Word. Disciples Indeed, 386 R””

    thinking of paul agonizing over his lost countrymen.

    25 Everyone who competes in the games exercises self-control in all things. They then do it to receive a perishable wreath, but we an imperishable. 26 Therefore I run in such a way, as not without aim; I box in such a way, as not beating the air; 27 but I discipline my body and make it my slave, so that, after I have preached to others, I myself will not be disqualified.

    Matthew 5

  98. street says:

    While I don’t know how far to press this explanation of our Lord’s crucifixion as the key to understanding the Revelation of the goodness of the King and kingdom of God, there is so much here that seems undeniable—I am beginning to wonder…

    3 and said, “Truly I say to you, unless you [Lit are turned]are converted and become like children, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. 4 Whoever then humbles himself as this child, he is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven. 5 And whoever receives one such child in My name receives Me;

    thinking of a ship at sea without a rudder.

    2 Kings 6:17 Then Elisha prayed and said, “O Lord, I pray, open his eyes that he may see.” And the Lord opened the servant’s eyes and he saw; and behold, the mountain was full of horses and chariots of fire all around Elisha.

  99. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, in answer to your question my dad spoke little of his faith or of others. My mother would say to me that we were cursed because of her illegitimacy as life was difficult for her and us because my brother was a teenager when he became mentally unwell.

    My dad knew my mum’s beliefs were wrong because he trusted God while my mum let the cares of this world get her down but she did have a very different upbringing to my dad so I am not blaming my mum just saying it as it was.

    My dad went to God for strength and never analysed why bad things happened in life but he was very good at being strong for others when he seen they needed encouraging but I seen my dad’s tears when he thought I wasn’t looking so very much a tough exterior but very soft hearted much more than my mum because life had made my mum tough and though I am not saying my mother wasn’t soft hearted but you didn’t often see that side of her.

    The difference in my mum and dad were that my dad knew God better while my mum knew human nature better.

    My dad was in the habit of looking to God when in difficulty and found solutions in the difficulty rather than dwelling on the difficulty.

    He was not perfect by any means but I believe he had perfected his faith in that actions spoke louder than words to him for he was a man of few words when it came to his faith but in living he knew when to speak and when not to, when to act and when not to and that speaks to me of wisdom that is God given and not wisdom that is man driven.

    Faith that is from God is very different to faith that comes from men but it takes a lifetime to distinguish the difference.

    Oh Lord my God, when I in awesome wonder,
    Consider all Thy worlds Thy hands have made;
    I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder,
    Thy power throughout the universe displayed.

    Chorus:
    Then sings my soul, my Saviour, God to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    Then sings my soul, my Saviour, God to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    When through the woods, and forest glades I wonder,
    And hear the birds sing sweetly in the trees.
    When I look down, from lofty mountain grandeur
    And hear the brook, and feel the gentle breeze.

    Chorus:
    Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    And when I think, that God, His Son not sparing;
    Sent Him to die, I scarce can take it in;
    That on the cross, by burden gladly bearing,
    He bled and died to take away my sin.

    Chorus:
    Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    When Christ shall come, with shout of acclamation,
    And take me home, what joy shall fill my heart.
    Then shall I bow in humble adoration,
    And then proclaim, “My God, how great Thou art!”

    Chorus:
    Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

  100. street says:

    Oh Lord my God, when I in awesome wonder,
    Consider all Thy worlds Thy hands have made;
    I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder,
    Thy power throughout the universe displayed.

    “What is man, that You remember him?
    Or the son of man, that You are concerned about him?…………..9 But we do see Him who was made for a little while lower than the angels, namely, Jesus, because of the suffering of death crowned with glory and honor, so that by the grace of God He might taste death for everyone………..10 For it was fitting for Him, for whom are all things, and through whom are all things, in bringing many sons to glory, to perfect the author of their salvation through sufferings. ……..made us alive together with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus……….

    Then sings my soul, my Saviour, God to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    Then sings my soul, my Saviour, God to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

  101. street says:

    seems to me all we have left is to walk …..

    Ephesians 2:10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

    question….my works or His works?

    John 9:41 Jesus said to them, “If you were blind, you would have no sin; but since you say, ‘We see,’ your sin remains.

    Hebrews 4:6 Therefore, since it remains for some to enter it, and those who formerly had good news preached to them failed to enter because of disobedience,

    25 not forsaking our own assembling together, as is the habit of some, but encouraging one another; and all the more as you see the day drawing near.
    26 For if we go on sinning willfully after receiving the knowledge of the truth, there no longer remains a sacrifice for sins, 27 but a terrifying expectation of judgment and the fury of a fire which will consume the adversaries.

  102. jeff1 says:

    Guide me, O my great Redeemer,
    pilgrim through this barren land;
    I am weak, but you are mighty;
    hold me with your powerful hand.
    Bread of heaven, bread of heaven,
    feed me now and evermore,
    feed me now and evermore.

    Open now the crystal fountain,
    where the healing waters flow.
    Let the fire and cloudy pillar
    lead me all my journey through.
    Strong Deliverer, strong Deliverer,
    ever be my strength and shield,
    ever be my strength and shield.

    When I tread the verge of Jordan,
    bid my anxious fears subside.
    Death of death, and hell’s Destruction,
    land me safe on Canaan’s side.
    Songs of praises, songs of praises
    I will ever sing to you,
    I will ever sing to you.

  103. poohpity says:

    Thank you Viv. The only reason I asked was so that you know that no one has a perfect faith walk and I thought that may be an encouragement to you the times when you are feeling down about yours because I read the respect you have for your dad.

  104. poohpity says:

    God seems to interact with each person on a one to one basis but never against His character and takes our every weakness into account.

  105. jeff1 says:

    God accepts us as we are to my way of thinking, it is us who wants to change each other because we see traits in each other we do not like but often the traits we don’t like in others are also in ourselves hence why we dislike them so and what draws us to them is that we recognise them in ourselves.

    I appreciate what you are saying Pooh because it is difficult for me being more like my mum than my dad because like my mum I depended on my dad so much.

    As a child I was much closer to my mum and so my struggle seems to be that I have inherited my mothers demons. I became very close to my father after my mother died and it was he who looked after me when I had a breakdown and helped me back to get well again.

    His influence had a lasting effect on me trusting God as he showed me by his example that he did trust God regardless of the many difficult circumstances he found himself in his faith was what got him through.

  106. Beloved says:

    47“And that slave who knew his master’s will and did not get ready or act in accord with his will, will receive many lashes, 48but the one who did not know it, and committed deeds worthy of a flogging, will receive but few. From everyone who has been given much, much will be required; and to whom they entrusted much, of him they will ask all the more.” Luke 12

  107. foreverblessed says:

    Ok, flogging, but not thrown out.

    Have you read the news about a policeman in Toronto?
    Now, that is good news!

    He could have been a lion, arresting the thief for stealing a suit.
    But instead he was a lamb, paying for the suit and giving it to the young man, saying: now do your proper job well
    Or something like that.

    The boy said he needed a suit for a job interview, but didn’t have enough the money to buy it.

    What a great story! That is the heart of Christ.

  108. jeff1 says:

    That is a lovely story Forever, thanks for sharing it.

    It is deeds like this that too often go unnoticed because newspapers and television love to focus on the grisly stuff but then they would say that the public have the right to know what is going on in society and if there is bad news people need to hear it and who can argue otherwise.

    In today’s society perhaps it is rare to find a person being a lamb and more likely to find them being a lion as it seems we are products of our time but there again when I look at history it would seem there always were more lions then there where lambs and history has a way of repeating itself to my way of thinking.

    Consistency comes from God and not men because it is God who does not change and that truth transcends time because who among us is not inconsistent when it comes to being the lion or the lamb.

  109. poohpity says:

    Beloved, the passage you quoted can not stand alone without reading the proceeding verses. The servant who was left in charge of the Master’s house did not treat the other servants well during the time the master was away. He was given much responsibility and he abused it as well as the other servants so when the Master returned the servant was given worse treatment because of how badly he treated others. That was the end of the parable which did not tell the whole story but the consequences of being a bad servant.

  110. poohpity says:

    I don’t think we can ever push it hard enough or long enough that what was done by Jesus, His identity, and resurrection opens our eyes to the goodness of God. Looking at all scripture on this side of the Cross one can see the goodness of God throughout.

  111. jeff1 says:

    This song on the radio this morning made me think about truth and how it hurts and how well God knows us.

    Oh the games people play now
    Every night and every day now
    Never meaning what they say now
    Never saying what they mean

    And they wile away the hours
    in their ivory towers
    Till they’re covered up with flowers
    In the back of a black limousine

    Chorus:
    La-da da da da da da da
    La-da da da da da de
    Talking ’bout you and me
    And the games people play

    Oh we make one another cry
    Break a heart then we say goodbye
    Cross our hearts and we hope to die
    That the other was to blame

    Neither one will give in
    So we gaze at our eight by ten
    Thinking ’bout the things that might have been
    It’s a dirty rotten shame

    La-da da da da da da da
    La-da da da da da de
    Talking ’bout you and me
    And the games people play

    People walking up to you
    Singing glory halleluia
    And they’re tryin to sock it to you
    In the name of the Lord

    They’re gonna teach you how to meditate
    Read you horoscope, cheat your faith
    And further more to hell with hate
    Come on and get on board

    Chorus:
    La-da da da da da da da
    La-da da da da da de
    Talking ’bout you and me
    And the games people play

    Look around tell me what you see
    What’s happening to you and me
    God grant me the serenity
    To remember who I am

    Cause you’re given up your sanity
    For your pride and your vanity
    Turns you sad on humanity
    And you don’t give a da da da da da

  112. Beloved says:

    Poohpity the parable was to show responsibility as some did yesterday. Sorry it was a bit off topic, just thinking.

  113. foreverblessed says:

    Ok, beloved, I was wondering why you gave these verses!
    Hebrews 6:10-12
    Hebrews 13:20-21

    Let’s always rely on the Power of Jesus to work in us, let’s always ask in humility for that Power,
    It is the Bread of life.
    And it could only be given because of Jesus Cross, the Lamb that was slain.

  114. Beloved says:

    Thinking about the Crucifixion Mart is talking about and how far to push it. If I am crucified with Christ which I am that means all the pain of dying and death of self is mine to live through until this body dies. To become a lamb is not as easy it seems to me as to live as a lion. Groaning and growing pains seem to be the norm. Death is hard.

  115. poohpity says:

    Joyce, but aren’t the Lion and Lamb things only attributed to Jesus?

  116. jeff1 says:

    I would agree Beloved it is not easy hence why we falter but there is God’s promise that He never leaves us so just remember that God’s on your side and will get you home should He have to carry you.

    Also remember His love is greater than human love because human love is conditional but His is not and so you can know that failure brings criticism from other human beings but always look to God and know he has already found you innocent and that will strengthen you and also please God.

    God isn’t comparing you to others he takes you as you are and will finish the work He started and when you focus on this you will find peace and then others will not be able to discourage you.

  117. street says:

    find a person being a lamb and more likely to find them being a lion as it seems we are products of our time…

    the idea of thinking of people as products, consumer goods, does not come from God. it comes from a self centered kingdom that is under a sentence of death. it has no viable relationship with anyone but self. broad road to destruction comes to mind. sure lots of people on it. looks pretty safe.
    we are made in the image of God, given His Word and His Spirit to be men and woman of our time to and for the glory of God. even the vessels of His wrath glorify God how much more the vessels of His mercy.

    lamb and lion…..one gives and one takes. we are called to love in Spirit and Truth with the heart of a lion and the meekness and humility of a lamb.

    shrewd as a snake and innocent as a dove comes to mind. the tipping point is love. it’s good to fall in love with your Creator. they say love aint easy…..Jesus said take my yoke upon yourself, for it is easy and light and learn from me.
    Matthew 11:29-30
    29 Take my yoke upon you and learn from me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls. 30 For my yoke is easy and my burden is light.”

  118. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Street, I am meditating on these verses

  119. foreverblessed says:

    Jeff, that was real awesome encouragement! Great! And I was thinking: hold on to that what you wrote, write it in a diary, and read it again when you are fejnv down!
    Is that patronising? Or matronising? I do not want to be that, bug there are times when we are really inspired and full of the Word of God, and then we sometimes don’t feel so upwards.
    Today I was in the great church of our city, it is called Grote Kerk, Great Church. It is a beautiful building in white chalkstone. More than 700 years old. We sing together, and it sounds so good, just a few voices, and they fill the church, as if the sound of our voices reach heaven. And I believe that when we pray in one mind that God acts on them. In the spiritual realm, and we will learn later what that was, and we wished we had prayed more, do to save more souls, ( Jesus saves them, but bringing them to Jesus in prayer, in servant humility )
    Like the policeman!

    A woman at church shared a personal story: she felt very down, and talked to God: ” God, where are You, I cannot find You”
    And then she heard God talking, and He turned it around! She cannot remember exactly what His words were: something like: ” but I know where you are” or ” I have found you alright”

    I thanked her for sharing that!

  120. Beloved says:

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  121. Beloved says:

    Today I’m thinking of what it means “Christ in you, the hope of glory”. That’s where love resides. It comes from the inside and works out in our homes, neighborhoods, church groups and even in our own sick hearts. Glorious the Lamb of God who took away the sins of the world to live in you and me. I cannot love without Him.

  122. street says:

    The Lion of the tribe of Judah wins the war of deception by accepting a crown of thorns, and by becoming the Lamb of God who— in being known, defeats the lie.

    thinking of God becoming a man to save man, who was made in the image of God that was brutally subverted by sin.

    6 who, although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped, 7 but emptied Himself, taking the form of a bond-servant, and being made in the likeness of men. 8 Being found in appearance as a man, He humbled Himself by becoming obedient to the point of death, even death on a cross.

    32 Jesus answered them, “I showed you many good works from the Father; for which of them are you stoning Me?” 33 The Jews answered Him, “For a good work we do not stone You, but for blasphemy; and because You, being a man, make Yourself out to be God.” 34 Jesus answered them, “Has it not been written in your Law, ‘I said, you are gods’?

    seems to me God is the most selfless being around. love does not seek it’s own. God did seek to save man created in His image. He could have flamed all opposition but choose to delay. even Jesus, enduring the wrath of men, entrusted Himself to His Fathers care. Luke 23:46 And Jesus, crying out with a loud voice, said, “Father, into Your hands I commit My spirit.” Having said this, He breathed His last. even while dead not a bone will be broken. buried with the rich.

    although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God God was more than comfortable being a man, he,man, was made in the image of God. thank you Dad for restoration in Christ Jesus.

    God could have abandoned us, but He Choose not to. His love is everlasting. He proves it in Christ. Himself.

  123. foreverblessed says:

    Steve I hope everything is fine with you and Mart, and Matthew!

    Lamb

    Jesus is the Great Lamb, just as Street gave the verses just above.By His sacrifice, we are ablt to live attached to Him, He being our Bread and our Wine, that gives us Spiritual Food to live by, a spiritual life that lasts forever.

    But now about us:
    Oswald Chambers often talks about it that we be broken bread and poured out wine for our fellow man, and that the old man in us refuses to be like that.

    Broken bread and poured out wine seems to me as being like a lamb.

    If we read the happenings to Paul we can see what it is to be broken bread and poured out wine.

    Being prisoned, Paul did not lament to God: What are You doing to me? Why did You leave me alone?

    Paul knew this was used to save others. And so he started to sing!

    Singing while being prisoned! That is a great example of having died to the old man, that is the first death. The one who has died the first death, the second death will do him no harm.

    Jesus told us not to love our lives, but to lose our lives.
    “He who loses his life will find it”

    I believe that means: dying to the old man. The claims our old man has on us. And when we have died to it, we are free to serve the Living Christ, and to be used by Him in what ever way He seems best!

    And so we are a lamb.

    Lion

    But I also think that we are lions, and that in respect to killing the old reflections that we haved! Jesus has overcome sin, and so we can be a lion towards that what is not yet right in us! And fight it as a lion would, kill the old man! Kill it, no mercy!

  124. foreverblessed says:

    I hope everything is fine with Mart, but I wanted to write Steve, Glenna and Matt! How Mart appeared there I do not know?! Todays ODB, Mart wrote it,
    “the heart of Christ”
    I believe that is also about us being willing to be sacrificed (as a lamb).

  125. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed (Rita), thank you for your concern for me and my family. Your kindness and compassion always shows through in all of your comments. Thank you again.

    The trials of our lives continue as I am sure they do for all of us. Some days are good some days are better, some days a bad and some are worse. The important thing for me is that we remain together.

    Matthew has decided that if he gets back into aqua-therapy he will be able to walk again so he and I have been busy getting all of that set up for him. His first therapy session would have been last Thursday, but they canceled it because of a thunderstorm that was going on when we got there.

    It is a two hour drive one way to the therapy pool and so a four hour drive in the car for he and I.

    We had minor flooding issues here the 28th and 29th of July and so as Mayor I had quite a busy time dealing with the needs of my neighbors as some issues still remain.

    My cousin from Harpers Ferry came for a few days visit and Glenna, gracious as ever, and she had a good time visiting. Barbara is my most constant family member who comes to visit as she and I realize our family is shrinking down and our branch will soon die out.

    I guess the thing is we here in my home greet each day anew and deal with each day’s trials as they come, always thankful to be together and especially for a good blessed day.

    Some days we have to be the Lion and some days we have to be the Lamb, as God directs.

    Steve

  126. SFDBWV says:

    Wanted also to say it is 41 degrees f and clear this morning…Fall is coming.

    steve

  127. jeff1 says:

    Street post 8 Aug 1.37 pm

    the idea of thinking of people as products, consumer goods, does not come from God.

    While it does not come from God it is how this world treats us. Go to the doctor’s and you are a number on a computer screen. This world treats us like products and that is the reality of it.

    That we are citizens of two worlds and it is for me to look to God to navigate through it and when I take my eyes of Jesus the difficulties arise.

    It is I who wander from God’s safe keeping and it is He who draws me back to Himself because of His love which is greater than my love can ever be for Him.

    Also Street you say it is good to fall in love with your Creator and that is a very personal walk and for some comes easier than others.

    I can remember when my mother was suffering and died of cancer being angry with God and truthfully I was not loving God during this period of my life. It took time for me to get back to saying my prayers and trusting God.

    Likewise when my son was gambling and I had split up from my husband and had to deal with it on my own it was another Christian I asked to pray for him because I could not find the strength to do it myself.

    I mentioned before how my dad trusted God in his difficulties but my dad had developed that from childhood and it came naturally to him.

    I was a wayward child/adult and so struggles of the mind are my companion.

    You cannot walk another man’s shoes nor he yours which is why God knows best.

    How often do I assume to know people when truthfully I do not I know them by reputation and that is very different from knowing someone the way God knows them.

    Jesus promised He was going to prepare us a mansion
    We’ll move in when the earth shall set us free
    Living on the earth but everyday we’re closer to Heaven
    For we know that where He is, we too shall be

    I’m a citizen of two worlds
    And its hard to choose between them
    I live here but my home you cannot see
    I’m a citizen of Heaven
    Where I’m going to have a mansion
    My real home right now is calling me

    Sometimes now it seems that I ain’t feeling at home where I’m living
    Sometimes I just wanna pack and move away
    I’m just like old Pa’
    I’m in a straight between going and staying
    (but you know what)
    I’ll keep working for my Lord till I move away

  128. SFDBWV says:

    Bible study can be such an exhausting adventure and always difficult to stay on track as one revelation leads to another adventure and goes on and on.

    Look at what the lion represents all throughout Scripture, look at what the lamb does as well and you see how God uses strength and innocence together as a way of demonstrating many things.

    Especially courage and sacrifice.

    Was not honey found in the carcass of a lion? Did not Daniel survive being in the lion’s den? At the same time did not God’s enemies perish from the encounter of being attacked by the lion?

    When God became a man did He not allow Himself to be born as an innocent helpless baby? Helpless and innocent as a baby lamb.

    Sheep need constant tending to and care and so are an excellent example of our needing Gods care.

    Feral sheep are in danger of being preyed upon by a number of predators, like man whose very souls are in danger of being devoured by Satan who interestingly stalks us like a “roaring lion”.

    In Job we read that the “soul” (KJV) of every living thing is in the hand of God.

    We are not complete, God is not complete until we are all one together again. To accomplish this God had to become the Lamb and allow Himself to be sacrificed on our behalf.

    The Lion and the Lamb are one.

    It’s made it to 40 degrees f as I sign off.

    Steve

  129. jeff1 says:

    It is my inconsistency that tires me yet God does not forsake me nor tire of my waywardness.

    Precious Lord, take my hand
    lead me on, let me stand
    I’m tired, I’m weak, I’m lone
    through the storm, through the night
    Lead me on to the light
    Take my hand precious Lord, lead me home

    When my way grows drear precious Lord linger near
    When my light is almost gone
    Hear my cry, hear my call
    Hold my hand lest I fall
    Take my hand precious Lord, lead me home

    When the darkness appears and the night draws near
    And the day is past and gone
    At the river I stand
    Guide my feet, hold my hand
    Take my hand precious Lord, lead me home

    Precious Lord, take my hand
    Lead me on, let me stand
    I’m tired, I’m weak, I’m lone
    Through the storm, through the night
    Lead me on to the light
    Take my hand precious Lord, lead me home
    (Lead me home)

  130. poohpity says:

    Jesus said, “You have been with me so long and still do not know who I Am.” to someone who had walked, eat, drank, slept, witnessed His miracles and talked with Him daily for three years but still did not know Him. We are left with the testimonies of those who had experienced God in the days of old and in the person of Jesus Christ and the indwelling of the Holy Spirit yet still do not know who He is.

    I hope not to be found as one of those that Jesus says, depart from me you never knew me or wanted to know me or it was a hassle to get to know me or given me any time, not as the Lamb of God who takes away the sins of the World or as the Lion of the tribe of Judah because I could not get out of the way of self. My will, my understanding, my self righteousness, my, my, my, Oh my!

    I wonder what all I have missed or am missing? It is no wonder my life is not a life, lived to it’s fullest or life abundantly or full of joy because it is all about me.

  131. jeff1 says:

    I know I have had doubts about God because of the ‘why’ more so than ‘my’ because unlike my dad I had wrong expectations about suffering and so struggle more with questions.

    When I was ten and my mother told me we were cursed and my dad reassured me that my mother was unwell and did not know what she was saying I choose to believe my dad.

    The difficulty for me now at the age of 63 is that I have not only inherited my mum’s instability but that I also see what she meant about being cursed.

    Poverty, prejudice, war and illness took my mothers life at 61. My brother spent his teenage life in and out of mental hospitals and suffered instability until his death at 61.

    My own life has been dominated by prejudice, war, divorce and mental illness effecting my stability of mind.

    Was I wrong to believe my dad because it is my mum’s words that have come true! Did my mum, my brother and I suffer for the sins of her father?

    I do wonder about this because it wasn’t my mum’s fault that she was born into such circumstances but she was the one who suffered the most as a result of it.

    Yes, there is unanswered questions in my life and I am sure in others lives because trusting God means just that, He will make right the wrongs of this world and that’s God’s promise to me/us because He cares that we suffer or He would never have sent ‘Jesus’ into this world to save us.

  132. poohpity says:

    Isn’t it amazing that the one thing that the Lord delights in always and in all ways is just getting to know Him.

    Thus says the Lord: “Let not the wise man boast in his wisdom, let not the mighty man boast in his might, let not the rich man boast in his riches, 24 but let him who boasts boast in this, that he understands and knows me, that I am the Lord who practices steadfast love, justice, and righteousness in the earth. For in these things I delight, declares the Lord.” Jeremiah 9:23-24

  133. poohpity says:

    Viv, I feel nothing but sadness for your mum for believing the lies and deceit that she was fed about being cursed because of how she came into this world. The Lord found away for her to be here because He wanted her to know how much she was loved and wanted by him. If it is a curse to be born illegitimately then my children would be under that same curse however that is not what the Lord has taught me, there is a blessing by the birth of each person alive no matter how they got here. Listening to the lies and deceit of people as well as from Satan can have devastating consequences on those who chose to listen and believe, it distorts minds, breaks hearts and pushes people away from God and that is the very intent of the enemy.

  134. jeff1 says:

    When you would have been born into the circumstances my mother was there would have been no knowing of God as she never seen the inside of a church or was baptized.
    We are talking about the 1920’s and very different times from today and learning to survive was what my mother learned.

    Being knocked of the footpath was an every day occurrence for her and being called names so she learned how to be the lion young in life.

    Probably why I found her to be scary because I remember being bullied as a child and my mum got that bully and put her up against the school wall and threatened to put her through it if she ever messed with her daughters again. Needless to say that was the end of me and my sister getting bullied.

    It wasn’t listening to the lies and deceit that had the devastating consequences but the way my mum had to lead her live in order to survive that did the damage.

    Those who treated her like that would not be allowed to get away with it today so thank God for a more civilised society.

    How a person treats another says a lot more about them than their beliefs.

  135. street says:

    out of the crucible of suffering and pain come pleas to God for mercy and relief. i do not want to make light of this difficult place to be, but it is the place of blessing. there are only two places that God dwells.

    Isaiah 57:15 For thus says the high and exalted One Who lives forever, whose name is Holy, “I dwell on a high and holy place, And also with the contrite and lowly of spirit In order to revive the spirit of the lowly And to revive the heart of the contrite.

    we tend to drift in pleasant times and forget God while in the wilderness. the devil is relentless. the good Shepard never sleeps. He’s good because He never looses one of His own, Whom the Father has given Him. Jesus The place of rest in the storm. His discipline is for us to delight in Him not the ourselves. if it not discipline it is testing. either way we need to trust Him to figure and do things right, like abraham, isaac and jacob.

  136. street says:

    by becoming the Lamb of God who— in being known, defeats the lie.

  137. jeff1 says:

    Faith gets me through the difficulties in life but it is ‘Christ’ who makes me right with God.

    My faith can falter and I question God but ‘Christ’ diminishes my doubt because I believe God because of Christ’s sacrifice.

    Without Him I could do nothing
    Without Him I’d surely fail
    Without Him I would be drifting
    Like a ship without a sail

    Without Him I would be dying
    Without Him I’d be enslaved
    Without Him life would be worthless
    But with Jesus thank God I’m saved

    Oh Jesus, oh Jesus
    Do you know Him today
    Please don’t turn Him away
    Oh Jesus, my Jesus
    Without Him how lost I would be
    Without Him how lost I would be

  138. jeff1 says:

    Be thou my vision, O Lord of my heart;
    naught be all else to me, save that thou art-
    thou my best thought, by day or by night;
    waking or sleeping, thy presence my light.

    Be thou my wisdom, and thou my true word;
    I ever with thee and thou with me, Lord.
    Thou my great Father; thine own may I be,
    thou in my dwelling and I one with thee.

    Riches I need not, nor vain, empty praise;
    thou mine inheritance, now and always;
    thou and thou only first in my heart,
    high King of heaven, my treasure thou art.

    High King of heaven, my victory won,
    may I reach heaven’s joys, O bright heaven’s sun!
    Heart of my own heart, whatever befall,
    Still be my vision, O Ruler of all.

  139. poohpity says:

    It seems often that people are deceived into believing that God only wants the good about us but He wants ALL of us, the good, bad, and evil. The bad and evil is what Jesus took care of and often the good causes one to be prideful which Jesus also died for. He asked us to come to and follow Him knowing He will do in us a good work. Come to the Lamb of God then one day we will see the Lion from the tribe of Judah. Are you ready? Is there oil in your lantern? Are you assured of where your treasure is?

  140. poohpity says:

    “Priceless” that is how God sees us.

    Mirror, mirror, mirror on the wall
    Tellin’ those lies, pointing out your flaws
    That isn’t who you are
    That isn’t who you are

    It might be hard to hear
    But let me tell you, dear
    If you could see what I can see, I know you would believe
    That isn’t who you are
    There’s more to who you are

    So when it’s late
    You’re wide awake
    Too much to take
    Don’t you dare forget that in the pain
    You can be brave
    Hear me say

    I see you dressed in white
    Every wrong made right
    I see a rose in bloom
    At the sight of you
    Oh, so priceless
    Irreplaceable, unmistakable, incomparable
    Darling, it’s beautiful
    I see it all in you
    Oh, so priceless

    No matter what you’ve heard
    This is what you’re worth
    More than all the money or the diamonds and pearls
    Oh, this is who you are
    Yeah, this is who you are

    So when it’s late
    You’re wide awake
    Too much to take
    Don’t you dare forget that in the pain
    You can be brave
    Hear me say

    I see you dressed in white
    Every wrong made right
    I see a rose in bloom
    At the sight of you
    Oh, so priceless
    Irreplaceable, unmistakable, incomparable
    Darling, it’s beautiful
    I see it all in you
    Oh, so priceless

    Sisters, we can start again
    Give honor ’til the end
    Love, we can start again

    Brothers, we can start again
    Give honor ’til the end
    Yeah, we can start again

    I see you dressed in white
    Every wrong made right
    I see a rose in bloom
    At the sight of you
    Oh, so priceless
    You’re irreplaceable, unmistakable, incomparable
    Darling, it’s beautiful
    I see it all in you
    Oh, so priceless

    I see you dressed in white
    Every wrong made right
    I see a rose in bloom
    At the sight of you

    I see you dressed in white
    Every wrong made right
    I see a rose in bloom
    At the sight of you

    I see you dressed in white
    Every wrong made right
    I see a rose in bloom
    At the sight of you

    I see you dressed in white
    Every wrong made right
    Oh, so priceless

  141. jeff1 says:

    It is, I, who changes God, but that God does not change, is what matters, because He rights the wrongs that transcends both time and humanity.

    Abide with me; fast falls the eventide;
    The darkness deepens; Lord, with me abide;
    When other helpers fail and comforts flee,
    Help of the helpless, oh, abide with me.

    Swift to its close ebbs out life’s little day;
    Earths joys grow dim, its glories pass away;
    Change and decay in all around I see-
    O Thou who changes not, abide with me.

    I need Thy presence every passing hour;
    What but Thy grace can foil the tempter’s pow’r?
    Who, like Thyself, my guide and stay can be?
    Through cloud and sunshine, Lord, abide with me.

    I fear no foe, with Thee at hand to bless;
    Ills have no weight, and tears no bitterness;
    Where is death’s sting? Where, grave, thy victory?
    I triumph still, if Thou abide with me.

    Hold Thou Thy cross before my closing eyes;
    Shine through the gloom and point me to the skies;
    Heav’n’s morning breaks, and earth vain shadows flee;
    In life, in death, O Lord, abide with me.

  142. street says:

    this caught my eye today.

    Balak asked him, “What did the Lord say?”

    18 Then he spoke his message:

    “Arise, Balak, and listen;
    hear me, son of Zippor.
    19
    God is not human, that he should lie,
    not a human being, that he should change his mind.
    Does he speak and then not act?
    Does he promise and not fulfill?
    20
    I have received a command to bless;
    he has blessed, and I cannot change it.

    21
    “No misfortune is seen in Jacob,
    no misery observed[a] in Israel.
    The Lord their God is with them;
    the shout of the King is among them.
    22
    God brought them out of Egypt;
    they have the strength of a wild ox.
    23
    There is no divination against[b] Jacob,
    no evil omens against[c] Israel.
    It will now be said of Jacob
    and of Israel, ‘See what God has done!’
    24
    The people rise like a lioness;
    they rouse themselves like a lion
    that does not rest till it devours its prey
    and drinks the blood of its victims.”

  143. tedmgossard says:

    Wonderfully expressed, Mart. Thanks. I just shared this on Facebook.

  144. foreverblessed says:

    The thought that Mart expresses is really wonderful
    Then Street gives these verses of Balak, (Aug 10 1.14 pm) and then I tend to think of lions who are killing, and the blood described, and I am put on a wrong path. When Jesus is decribed as a Lion, He defeated the enemy, by being a Lamb, the defeat was is the sacrifice.
    When in Revelation Jesus is described as a Rider, who is called Faitful and True, people were killed with the sword that comes out of His mouth, and all the birds gorged themselves on their flesh.
    (Rev 19:11,21)
    It sounds so incredible violant to me. ANd I must know there is a deeper meaning to it. As Mart if wondering about.
    ANd here I have some wonderings of myself:
    It is the sword that comes out of His mouth, not a real sword, but the Word of Truth.
    The Word of Truth, and that kills the flesh.
    And we are His children, and we are told that we have died to the flesh.
    So that when the Rider came out and hit us with the Word of Truth, we died to the flesh.
    That has happened to us too!
    What the birds are doing in this story, I do not know.
    Who would feed on our flesh?

    So if it is to be taken as a spiritual story, what would the implications be for the world?
    God who is a Lion, by being a Lamb?
    Anyway, this is as far as my thoughts are going.

  145. foreverblessed says:

    Stevem thank you, you are an incredible kind and caring person. I pray that God blesses you, and your family, in all your going in and going out! That God blesses all those you come in contact with. That His Kingdom might increase where you go!
    That you, and Matt may see what the fruit of your tears is bringing about.
    Psalm 126:4-5

  146. jeff1 says:

    To my way of thinking ‘Christ’ is still Saviour of the world even to those that do not see it.

    When my mum was born into poverty and a one parent family she had no knowledge or teaching of God and never knew the inside of a church or was baptized yet she spoke to me of ‘Jesus’.

    The indwelling Spirit reveals Himself to those who seem lost in this world.

    It is I who underestimate God’s power and sovereignty with my limited view but that does not limit God but it is I who must hold on to that truth as the world does not know God as I do nor wonder as I wonder at the works He is doing to bring to Himself those who are lost to His grace and mercy.

    When ask if Elvis was thinking of her when he sang this song she said no he was thinking of God.

    When no one else can understand me
    When everything I do is wrong
    You give me hope and consolation
    You give me strength to carry on

    And you’re always there
    To lend a hand in everything I do
    That’s the wonder, the wonder of you
    (Wonder of you)

    And when you smile the world is brighter
    You touch my hand and I’m a king
    Your kiss to me is worth a fortune
    Your love for me is everything

    I guess I’ll never know
    The reason why you love me as you do
    That’s the wonder, the wonder of you

    I guess I’ll never know
    The reason why you love me as you do
    That’s the wonder, the wonder of you

  147. jeff1 says:

    Correction

    When Elvis’s wife was asked if he was thinking of her when he sang this song she said no he was thinking of God.

  148. poohpity says:

    Thus says the Lord:
    “Cursed is the man who trusts in man
    and makes flesh his strength,[b]
    whose heart turns away from the Lord.
    6
    He is like a shrub in the desert,
    and shall not see any good come.
    He shall dwell in the parched places of the wilderness,
    in an uninhabited salt land.

    7
    “Blessed is the man who trusts in the Lord,
    whose trust is the Lord.
    8
    He is like a tree planted by water,
    that sends out its roots by the stream,
    and does not fear when heat comes,
    for its leaves remain green,
    and is not anxious in the year of drought,
    for it does not cease to bear fruit.”

    9
    The heart is deceitful above all things,
    and desperately sick;
    who can understand it?
    10
    “I the Lord search the heart
    and test the mind,[c]
    to give every man according to his ways,
    according to the fruit of his deeds.”

    Not really trusting in God’s goodness which from the beginning had Jesus in mind to send to us, shows that His goodness and mercy reaches from everlasting to everlasting. God is good all the time; all the time God is good.

  149. jeff1 says:

    God is good all the time but in my humanness I do not always see it hence my wandering but it is the indwelling Holy Spirit that draws me back to Himself because His love is greater than my wandering.

    It is always God who is faithful.

    “Great is Thy faithfullness,” O God my Father,
    There is no shadow of turning with Thee;
    Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not
    As Thou hast been Thou forever wilt be.

    “Great is Thy faithfulness!” “Great is Thy faithfullness!”
    Morning by morning new mercies I see;
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided-
    “Great is Thy faithfullness,” Lord, unto me!

    Summer and winter, and springtime and harvest,
    Sun, moon and stars in their courses above,
    Join with all nature in manifold witness
    To Thy great faithfullness, mercy and love.

    Pardon for sin and peace that endureth,
    Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide;
    Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow,
    Blessing all mine, with then thousand beside!

    “Great is Thy faithfullness!” “Great is Thy faithfullness!”
    Morning by morning new mercies I see;
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided-
    “Great is Thy faithfullness,” Lord, unto me.

  150. Beloved says:

    Jeremiah said:

    I will cleanse them from all the guilt of their sin against me, and I will forgive all the guilt of their sin and rebellion against me. ESV

  151. poohpity says:

    Beloved, I think you will find that is what God said to Jeremiah. Jeremiah 33:4-8 It was not possible for Jeremiah to do any of those things he was just a man but a spokesman for the Lord.

  152. Beloved says:

    Yes! Wonderful words of hope God gave to His prophet Jeremiah!

  153. jeff1 says:

    Still, how humbled and privileged Jeremiah must have felt to know God’s voice.

    How often do I miss God’s voice because I am listening to others when I should be listening for His small voice!

    Yet, when I do hear His voice I am never disappointed but strengthened and encouraged that His ways are always best and in my heart of hearts I know the truth when God presents it to me because I have faltered enough in my lifetime to know that consistency is not from me but from God.

    O Lord my God, when I in awesome wonder,
    Consider all the worlds, Thy hands have made;
    I see the stars, I hear the rolling thunder,
    Thy power throughout the universe displayed.

    Chorus:
    Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    When through the woods, and forest glades I wander,
    And hear the birds sing softly in the trees.
    When I look down, from lofty mountain grandeur
    And hear the brook, and feel the gentle breeze.

    Chorus:
    Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    And when I think, that God, His Son not sparing;
    Sent Him to die, I scarce can take it in;
    That on the cross, my burden gladly bearing,
    He bled and died to take away my sin.

    When Christ shall come, with shout of acclamation,
    And take me home, what joy shall fill my heart.
    Then shall I bow, in humble adoration,
    And then proclaim, “My God how great Thou art!”

    Chorus:
    Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

    Then sings my soul, My Saviour God, to Thee,
    How great Thou art! How great Thou art!

  154. SFDBWV says:

    Life has taught me many lessons, I thank God for so many things that have taken root in my heart.

    Sometimes there is a “thing” that somehow soothes and comforts me when I don’t need to know, I just live in it. Somehow it becomes a part of me or perhaps I become a part of it.

    Standing outside of the story looking in, it all becomes so clear. God became flesh and blood and came to live among man. His reason and purpose hidden in antiquity, yet laid bare for those who had the eyes to see. Able to demonstrate His mighty power, He did so by giving sight to the blind, healing to the sick and lame, even raising the dead from the grave.

    Yes He could have called down His army of angels and laid waste His enemies, but He defeated His enemies by defeating the cause of having enemies.

    It was His will to allow Himself to be put to death by the very people who needed Him the most.

    God has shown us the way, let us honor Him by casting away our rags and following Him wherever it is He takes us.

    56 degrees and clear this morning.

    Steve

  155. Beloved says:

    Jeff1 if you do a Google search on Jeremiah, also known as the weeping prophet, you can find out more about the difficult life he led as Gods’ prophet.

  156. jeff1 says:

    God teaches me from my mistakes as well as my successes leaving me wondering why I fear my mistakes so much.

    I don’t believe God sees failure as I see it because it is He who turns it around because its what God does best correcting wrongs.

    It seems it is I who despair at my lack of judgement while God makes a way to put it right.

    I’ve heard a thousand stories of what they think you’re like
    But I’ve heart the tender whispers of love in the dead of night
    And you tell me that you’re pleased
    And I’m never alone

    You’re a good good Father
    it’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by You
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am

    I’ve seen many searching for answers far and wide
    But I know we’re all searching
    For answers only you provide
    ‘Cause you know just what we need
    Before we say a word

    You’re a good good Father,
    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am

    Because you are perfect in all of your ways
    You are perfect in all of your ways
    You are perfect in all of your ways to us

    Oh, its so undeniable
    I, I can hardly speak
    Peace so unexplainable
    I, I can hardly think
    As you call me deeper still
    As you call me deeper still
    As you call me deeper still
    into love, love, love

    You’re a good good Father
    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am

    You’re a good good Father
    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am
    You’re a good good Father

    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am
    You’re a good good Father

    You are perfect in all of your ways
    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    You are perfect in all of your ways
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am.

  157. jeff1 says:

    Thank you, beloved, I am wondering why they called him the weeping prophet and look forward to reading it.

  158. Beloved says:

    Jeff1 in Jeremiah we see God bringing judgement and destruction for the sin of rebellion, yet not without the promise of restoration and prosperity through forgiveness of their wrongdoings. Jesus the Lion of Judah is the same Lamb of God we all love and serve today. He is our restorer, healer and deliverer!

  159. jeff1 says:

    Thank you, Beloved, So God’s goodness always triumph’s over wrongdoing. In our humanness it does not seem to stop people from going wrong or having bad thoughts or struggling with hatred for others.

    It troubles me that I struggle with these sins as belief in itself does not mean that I wake up not having them.

    Even in my efforts to focus on Christ I can still become distracted by the cares of this world which causes me to wander from His safe keeping.

    How sad I feel when I fail to do the simplest of things compared to those who are faced with the most difficult.

  160. Beloved says:

    I Cor 10;13 says
    No temptation has overtaken you that is not common to man. God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it.

    Have your temptation s to turn from God succeeded? If not, why not?

  161. jeff1 says:

    Lord, I hope this day is good
    I’m feelin’ empty and misunderstood
    I should be thankful Lord, I know I should
    But Lord, I hope this day is good

    Lord, have you forgotten me
    I’ve been prayin’ to you faithfully
    I’m not sayin’ I’m a righteous man
    But Lord, I hope you understand

    I don’t need fortune and I don’t need fame
    Send down the thunder, Lord, send down the rain
    But when you’re planning just how it will be
    Plan a good day for me

    Lord, I hope this day is good
    I’m feelin’ empty and misunderstood
    I should be thankful Lord, I know I should
    But Lord, I hope this day is good

    You’ve been the King since the dawn of time
    All that I’m asking is a little less crime
    It might be hard for the devil to do
    But it would be easy for you

    Lord, I hope this day is good
    I’m feeling empty and misunderstood
    I should be thankful Lord, I know I should
    But Lord, I hope this day is good

  162. jeff1 says:

    I turn from God because I am ashamed of my weakness in not succeeding to rid myself of hateful thoughts towards those who still want to harm us.

    I do have mental health problems which do not help because I have poor concentration span and suffer from paranoia.

    It is in music and poetry that I know God but still feel very distant from God in myself. I trust God much more than I know Him and most of the time I have peace but then in the midst of strife I feel uneasy again and my peace is disturbed.

    I really do not understand why I do not succeed other than the struggles in my head seem to dictate to my heart and not the other way around.

  163. Beloved says:

    I’m not hearing anything you say as different from what all struggle with.

  164. Beloved says:

    As for hatred it’s a common problem. Perhaps prayng for your enemies by name If possible will help you to see from Gods’ perspective. This may be your calling, not unlike Jeremiah’s. Success is measured differently in God’s economy. Success means death to what I want, and yes to what God wants beloved friend.

  165. jeff1 says:

    Yes, let it be God’s will to change our hearts and minds so that peace and understanding will prevail.

    I must trust God with both my enemies and my own heart for He will make all wrongs right in His time and in His way. Trusting God is always the right option regardless of my uneasiness about my enemies God will make a way. Thank you I needed to hear that God may have a purpose for my life even in my doubts that He will find a purpose for me.

  166. Beloved says:

    The fact that you exist shows Gods purpose for your life. Your very presence here on this blog, with your family, friends, church etc reminds all about the goodness of God. God made everything and said it was good. He knew before you were born the plans He had for you. Jeremiah recorded these very things! You are the image of God, He will not forsake you nor expect anything more than He did of Himself which is to love everyone. He will sort them out later, but maybe in the meantime your love will win a friend for God that once was His enemy!

  167. jeff1 says:

    I want you to know Beloved that your words have encouraged me greatly. It is so easy to get caught up in being a product of this world that I forget that God cares because it is who He is and not because of what I am. It is difficult for me to see myself as a vessel of love when I struggle with harbouring hate for those who have harmed me. That God will change our hearts to His will is what I am hoping for… Your prayers for my hopes please and thank you.

    Heard this on the Sunday reflections very uplifting.

    I have built my life on the solid Rock
    Far away from the sinking sand
    And I cast my eyes on the home that waits
    On the banks of the Promised Land

    There’s a song of praise that is lifted there
    By the saints and the angels band
    And I long to go and to join the choir
    On the banks of the Promised Land

    Hallelujah, what a morning
    When I reach for that nail-scarred hand
    And I’m led from grace to glory
    On the banks of the Promised Land

    Every grief and pain that found me here
    Jesus knows, and He understands
    They’ll be washed away as I cross death’s stream
    To the banks of the Promised Land

    Hallelujah, what a morning
    When I reach for that nail-scarred hand
    And I’m led from grace to glory
    On the banks of the Promised Land

    Then I’ll see the face of my Saviour dear
    Beckoned close by His sweet command
    All my burdens gone; I will rest at last
    On the banks of the Promised Land

    Hallelujah, what a morning
    When I reach for that nail-scarred hand
    And I’m led from grace to glory
    On the banks of the Promised Land

    Oh, who will come and go with me?
    I am bound for the Promised Land

  168. SFDBWV says:

    Clearly I have as I am certain most others here have enjoyed “Beloved’s” comments. Thank you friend for your “voice” here.

    In a blog called “Been Thinking About” I actually think about a great many things and each and every subject for me grows many abstract thoughts along with them.

    A lion and a lamb are seen as such opposites and yet here we are given both as examples of Christ.

    While we are told of that coming time when the lion and the lamb will lay down together, for this time in our existence the lamb would have little chance in surviving alongside a lion or a least the lion as we have come to recognize it.

    In reading and studying Scripture it comes to me that there are things that God “hates”. Yet I know all too well that all things that exist are of God’s creation. Because John tells me so in John 1:3 KJV.

    So clearly there are in existence light and darkness, good and evil.

    We are told that in the end of all things there is a time coming when there will be no more darkness, light from God that does not even cast a shadow. That hell and death are done away with and all the former things will be forgotten and never remembered again.

    Wondering how does that make you feel that as you exist in eternity the you that you know now will for all intents and purposes not exit at all and there is no remembrances of you of your trials and sufferings or of your successes?

    I wonder if this means there is no memory of the love you had between mother and father or husband and wife, for your children or you friends.

    The truth is the idea that the memory of such is forever gone saddens me.

    Here in my circumstance Matthew has little memory of his past only bits and pieces and when he is tired even most of that is forgotten, yet he has never forgotten his love for me.

    It seems that love lives on, no matter what may come against it.

    48 degrees and clear this morning in the mountains

    Steve

  169. jeff1 says:

    I will tell you a story, a true story of two mothers, one I knew, personally, was the victims mother.

    It was made into a televisions production here in the UK called ‘The Secret’.

    It was the story of a dentist who fell in love with a policeman’s wife and planned with her to kill his own wife and her husband.

    The verdict on their deaths was suicide as he did a successful job of making it look like it was.

    Some 20 years later he walked into a police station and handed himself over because things started going very badly wrong in his life and as a Christian he believed God was punishing him.

    This is the same man who twenty years earlier said God had wanted him to kill his wife and his lover’s husband because he believed it was God’s will for them to be together.

    I did visiting for the Red Cross and as it happened this lady that I visited was the mother of the policeman and I was to learn that they were a devoted Christian family who found it difficult to come to terms with their son having committed suicide.

    During my visits the court case was on the television and the outcome and verdict that was reached.

    I remember visiting one day and I asked the lady was it her birthday as I had noticed a card sitting on her mantle piece. She replied it was a card from Mrs ?
    mother of her daughter-in-law asking her forgiveness for what happened her son.

    She very quickly replied she is a mother just like myself and it must be very difficult for her to come to terms with her daughters part in this because she must still love her daughter very much being a mother just like herself.

    She also told me that when they had discovered her daughter-in-law’s affair with the dentist that both her son and them as a family had forgiven her and welcomed her back into the family.

    An act that proved them to be a true Christian family but also cost them the life of their son.

    I believe what is done in love will be remembered but do I want to remember the times I have not loved or the times others have not loved in return. There are some memories that are best forgotten to my way of thinking so that love can live on in eternity.

  170. poohpity says:

    The very essence of who we are will always be but with a different kind of body, a resurrection body. Just as some had a hard time at first recognizing Jesus with His new body but when He spoke and acted they recognized who He was. It would seem the same to be true for us. I believe we will recognize many in heaven maybe some we thought would never be there and some we thought would be there yet aren’t and those who will be.

    There will be no more need to satisfy the flesh with it’s cravings, desires, wants since the physical body goes back to the dust which it came from. We will be equipped with a body made for eternity but it will still be us without all the garbage that weighs us down and takes us captive while in this temporary tent. Totally free at last! Hallelujah!

  171. poohpity says:

    Standing in the very presence of God I do not think I will think about anything else. Finally visibly seeing all that He is I can only imagine that will be enough to fill me for eternity. In the presence of pure love not the feeble, distorted and often self motivated attempts of mankind.

  172. SFDBWV says:

    Daniel 4:17 KJV speaks of “watchers”. It is a very interesting verse and omitted in content from the Catholic Bible for some unbeknownst reason.

    Who are these “watchers”? Daniel 4:23 KJV gives reason to believe they are angelic beings in the service of God.

    There is no secret thing done in all of the earth that God is not aware of. The difference may be between “watchers” and God is that every secret motive, thought and background that goes into a person’s action is known to God, but a “watcher” may only observe.

    There are a great many things I have observed and in many cases been aware of and more knowledgeable of; one thing I am aware of is that there are some people who seem to get away with a life far removed from Godly behavior and some who don’t.

    Is it God’s doing, or just the way of things?

    There are a lot of “demons” in some people’s lives who taunt and torment until their work is done and that person comes to repent. While in another’s they seem to go to their very graves unrepentant.

    It may just be prayer for the unrepentant that is lacking as well as prayer for the repentant that bears fruit. I don’t know.

    What I do know is that every secret thing we do is known and every word spoken we are held in account for.

    Psalms 141:3 KJV “Set a watch, O Lord before my mouth; keep the door of my lips.”

    Steve

  173. poohpity says:

    The “watchers” in the KJV which in other versions are messengers sent from God to deliver messages which in Daniel was giving dreams about events to come concerning King Nebuchadnezzar. Then God gave Daniel the means to interpret those things because the King did not understand. Daniel 4:17 NIV; Daniel 4:23 NIV

  174. jeff1 says:

    Pooh’s post 8.56 am

    Thinking of the feeble, distorted and self-motivated attempts of mankind.

    Yet, in our brokenness, that is what we do offer others, and expect them to see it as God’s love when truthfully it falls so very far short of it.

  175. jeff1 says:

    As morning dawns and evening fades
    You inspire songs of praise
    That rise from earth to touch Your heart and glorify Your Name

    Your Name is a strong and mighty tower
    Your Name is a shelter like no other
    Your Name, let the nations sing it louder
    ‘Cause nothing has the power to save
    But Your Name

    Jesus, in Your Name we pray
    Come and fill our hearts today
    Lord, give us strength to live for You and glorify Your Name

    Your Name is a strong and mighty tower
    Your Name is a shelter like no other
    Your Name, let the nations sing it louder
    ‘Cause nothing has the power to save but Your Name

    Your Name is a strong and mighty tower
    Your Name is a shelter like no other
    Your Name let the nations sing it louder
    ‘Cause nothing has the power to save but Your Name
    ‘Cause nothing has the power to save but Your Name
    ‘Cause nothing has the power to save but

    Your Name is a strong and mighty tower
    Your Name is a shelter like no other
    Your Name let the nations sing it louder
    ‘Cause nothing has the power to save but Your Name
    ‘Cause nothing has the power to save but Your Name

  176. street says:

    Revelation of the goodness of the King and kingdom of God, there is so much here that seems undeniable—I am beginning to wonder…

    intellectual assent is no substitute for a Person.
    persons tent to be more difficult/mysterious and more complex.

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