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On Wikileak Sea

How can we make sense of a world where all who have something to hide live in constant fear of being exposed by a power seeking, money hungry— or ever loving rival?

How different are such thoughts from the “What is truth?” asked by a cynical judge when he was asked to seal the fate of someone who was a truth-teller by nature?

Earlier that night, in a quieter place, Jesus had confided to his friends, “I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me.”

A long time ago, I learned to use those words as a reason to believe that Jesus is the only way to heaven. Now I’m thinking I may have missed what he was also saying about how to find our way, truth, and life in every clear and present danger. Three years earlier he had said, “Follow me.” Now as the sun went down he was still leading the way.

Today, on Wikileak Sea, no one seems to be able to walk on water, or quiet wild, swirling winds. In the darkness, we might think we’re seeing a ghost, a devil or worse. But let’s not be surprised if we hear the familiar voice of an ever-loving rival, saying, “It’s me”. “Don’t be afraid.” “Follow me”.


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  1. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Mart. I have fed Matt, made his bed, got him settled in, cleaned off the back, fed the birds took out the trash and am finally able to set and have some coffee.

    It is 24 degrees and we had a little over 2 inches of snow through yesterday and overnight. Not enough to get all excited over, just enough to remind us of the season.

    Speaking of season, rifle deer season opened this morning. It used to be a big deal when I was younger, not so any more.

    I have read over your topic several times, trying to get a sense of what you’re not saying along with what you are, but here goes…

    The term “WikiLeaks” instils in me the new normal of whatever secret error, mistake or sin high profile people may have committed is not so secret anymore and the ability to have instant information spread around to everyone sooner or later brings it to the surface, or better said opens it up to public scrutiny.

    Who would want every stupid thing they ever did made public? Not me.

    And who would want to be judged for one or even two mistakes in your life over a lifetime of doing something better?

    I am reminded of the words to an old hymn, “Rock of ages cleft for me let me hide myself in thee.”

    We all hide our sins in Christ and He is gentleman enough to keep them secret and us safe, but the world we live in is unforgiving, cruel and manipulative.

    He not only remains our safe place, but our guide in knowing how to handle the things that we are exposed to. Especially when learning of the juicy gossipy once secret sins the like of “WikiLeaks” exposes to the world.

    Are we quick to forgive or quick to judge?

    We need to know the difference between being informed and being used.

    I am sure the subject will grow and if I am off center then I will re-adjust.

    Steve

  2. poohpity says:

    We are only as sick as the secrets we keep. God brings light to those secrets places because after all the only one that makes any difference knows everything about us and no use in hiding which actually promotes lying to cover up the real person. If God loves the real us coming before Him just as I am that seems to be only way to truly understand how awesome God’s grace truly is.

    “For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it pierces even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It is able to judge the thoughts and intentions of the heart. 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight; everything is uncovered and exposed before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account” Hebrews 4:12-13 NLT

    If people were honest in the first place there would be no need for the exposure from Wikileaks but as far as the government is concerned there are, for me, some things I think I am better off not knowing.

  3. poohpity says:

    “I will ask the Father, and he will give you another Advocate, who will never leave you. 17 He is the Holy Spirit, who leads into all truth. The world cannot receive him, because it isn’t looking for him and doesn’t recognize him. But you know him, because he lives with you now and later will be in you.” If we have a hard time being forth coming about our real self it is actually living in the flesh because it hides from truth.

  4. Beloved says:

    Ever seen a buoy out in the water? That’s what comes to mind with Marts essay. Ever present, constant, available, warning of danger, solace, control. Yes, Jesus the way truth and life. An ever present help in times of trouble. It wasn’t an easy time right before Jesus’s crucifixion. The disciples really needed to hear those words then and now still especially if we take our eyes off of Him and wandering leads us into dark waters. But Jesus is there, too, in the dark waters with us, waiting to save. Blessed savior mine.

  5. remarutho says:

    Good Morning Mart and Friends —

    Raining this morn with 11C/51F. Prospects of clearing and some sunshine today.

    Agreeing over here, Mart, the waves of information released by Wikileaks are more than I at least can wade through. It is over my head. Only the most dedicated researcher can go to the depths of it. You need a submarine.

    Making sense of the flood of information released by such an organization is also beyond understanding. The flood of emails and other data makes no sense, except in a world where truth is the lowest common denominator. But, that is not really truth. it seems to me.

    Jesus is the Way, the Truth and the Life, as you point out, Beloved. Yes, as a bouy can mark a dangerous rock beneath the surface out at sea. Bouys also line the true, deep channel to a safe haven, out of storm danger. So like Jesus!

    May we all be granted grace to humbly rely on the Holy Spirit to reveal these depths to us. The Apostle Paul writes, “…the Spirit searches all things, even the depths of God.”

    God is eternal Being who breathed the universe into existence. Give us courage, Lord, to hear Your voice over the storm:

    “It’s me”. “Don’t be afraid.” “Follow me”.

    Joy all day,
    Maru

  6. jeff1 says:

    Chorus:
    Walk with me, Lord! Walk with me!
    Walk with me, Lord! Walk with me!
    While I’m on my pilgrim journey,
    I need You, Jesus, to walk with me.

    Be my friend, Lord! Be my friend!
    Be my friend, Lord! Be my friend!
    While I’m on this tedious journey,
    I need You, Jesus, to be my friend.

    Don’t leave me alone, Lord!
    Don’t leave me alone!
    Don’t leave me alone, Lord!
    Don’t leave me alone!
    While I’m on my pilgrim journey,
    Well I need You, Jesus, to walk with me.
    Hmmm-Hmmm(7x)
    Pilgrim Journey
    Well I need Jesus to walk with me

  7. poohpity says:

    I know I put this song up in an earlier post but it fits so well with this one.

    Truth is harder than a lie
    The dark seems safer than the light
    And everyone has a heart that loves to hide
    I’m a mess and so are you
    We’ve built walls nobody can get through
    Yeah, it may be hard, but the best thing we could ever do, ever do

    Bring your brokenness, and I’ll bring mine
    ‘Cause love can heal what hurt divides
    And mercy’s waiting on the other side
    If we’re honest
    If we’re honest

    Don’t pretend to be something that you’re not
    Living life afraid of getting caught
    There is freedom found when we lay our secrets down at the cross, at the cross

    So bring your brokenness, and I’ll bring mine
    ‘Cause love can heal what hurt divides
    And mercy’s waiting on the other side
    If we’re honest
    If we’re honest

    It would change our lives
    It would set us free
    It’s what we need to be

    So bring your brokenness, and I’ll bring mine
    ‘Cause love can heal what hurt divides
    And mercy’s waiting on the other side
    If we’re honest
    If we’re honest
    If we’re honest

  8. street says:

    Today, on Wikileak Sea, no one seems to be able to walk on water, or quiet wild, swirling winds. In the darkness, we might think we’re seeing a ghost, a devil or worse. But let’s not be surprised if we hear the familiar voice of an ever-loving rival, saying, “It’s me”. “Don’t be afraid.” “Follow me”.

    this familiar voice, so quiet and humble, so easily silenced by all the noise in me, yet not silent.
    ever-loving rival, for the thorn that is so rightfully His.
    learning to walk, learning to run, learning to soar! as soon as i can stand up, LORD.
    learning a steadfast obedience in the same direction, which really is love for the one you obey.

  9. Regina says:

    Good Evening, All
    It’s been awhile since we’ve last chatted, and I’ve missed chatting with you… I pray that all is well in your lives… Mart’s blog topic and intro comment brought to mind a news report on Zimbabwe’s president, Robert Mugabe…At first, I wasn’t interested in what I was hearing in the news, but NPR (National Public Radio) was (seemingly) doing a news report on his actions every other day. Their reports on his daily doings inspired me to do some personal research on him… I found out that he’s a wealthy, tyrannical leader who has amassed a fortune on the backs of the citizens of his country… So sad! Though some say some of his fortune was earned legitimately, the majority of his earnings are ill-gotten-gain… In today’s news, the majority of the people in Zimbabwe are asking Mugabe to step down as president of their country. He refused to step down, and I read in an online article that he’s the only president Zimbabwe has ever had… Wow! The country of Zimbabwe definitely needed a system of “checks and balances” to protect the citizens from dictatorship… Mr. Mugabe definitely had something to hide, but, in his country, he doesn’t have to hide anything. Am now interested in what will become of him, his presidency and his country…

    65 degrees under a starry night sky in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,
    Regina

  10. street says:

    “I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me.”

    one of the things that was brought to my attention in this quote is truth. Jesus is claiming to be THE TRUTH. in flesh and blood. accepting death on a cross as the rightful end for all flesh and blood. the One Who knew no sin. Passover in judgment because He is our Passover. The Way vs. my way. Real Life vs. my dead life. can we see a difference? Hope is the difference and love without strings. i can see why followers have a great advantage in throwing sin overboard. new life.

  11. jeff1 says:

    It is in not making sense of this world that I cling to the cross because it is seeing the depravity here that drives me to Jesus as I know now why I need Him because He not only saves me but this world from calamity.

    God is still in control though my limited view often tells me otherwise but it is not about my view but God’s promises which He has promised to fulfil and the one thing I have learned in life is that while I am not always faithful to God He is always faithful to me.

    Great is Thy faithfulness, oh God my Father;
    There is no shadow of turning with Thee;
    Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not;
    As Thou hast been, Thou forever will be.

    Great is Thy faithfulness! Great is Thy faithfulness!
    Morning by morning new mercies I see.
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
    Great is Thy faithfulness! Lord, unto me!

    Summer and winter and springtime and harvest,
    Sun, moon, and stars in their courses above
    Join with all nature in manifold witness
    to Thy great faithfulness, mercy and love.

    Great is Thy faithfulness! Great is Thy faithfulness!
    Morning by morning new mercies I see.
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me.

    Pardon for sin and a peace that endureth
    Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide;
    Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow,
    Blessings all mine, with ten thousand beside!

    Great is Thy faithfulness! Great is Thy faithfulness!
    Morning by morning new mercies I see.
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me!

  12. SFDBWV says:

    As I read the topic again this morning, I was amused to read the line, “ever loving rival”. I suppose that is as close to an expletive deleted as Mart will ever get.

    I on the other hand have been known to speak in the unknown tongue. That of course is an old joke referencing cursing for any that don’t get the pun.

    Reading on, Mart refers to Pontius Pilate as asking Jesus sarcastically “What is truth?”
    In this “WikiLeaks” age of tweets, twitter, and instant communications no one needs to know the truth all they need to hear is an accusation. A denial of guilt proof enough of guilt.

    In Pontius Pilate’s world truth was something philosophers debated as men of action were forced to deal with a world unconcerned with truth.

    It would seem nothing much has changed.

    It is recorded that Jesus made the statement. “I am the way, the truth, and the life, no one comes to the Father but by me.”

    Christianity is based on this statement. For over two thousand years billions of souls have come to salvation by believing this to be “true”.

    Look though today and see how many people want to either twist the truth of this statement or just outright deny it.

    Islam is considered by many to be a legitimate faith in the same God as Christians and Jews worship. Yet this statement contradicts that in simple terms, “no one comes to the Father but by me.”

    A clear choice is given, either believe the words of Jesus or don’t.

    Recognize “WikiLeaks” for what it is, just another avenue to accuse. And another opportunity as to where to place your faith and trust.

    Bring everything to God in prayer and the “Truth” shall set you free.

    19 degrees with 2 inches of snow still on the ground. A very busy day ahead for us.

    Steve

  13. jeff1 says:

    Many of the revelations in regards to famous people and their past I might doubt if I had not known men who preyed on the vulnerability of women.

    As a teenager I worked in a firm where most female employees had to take steps to avoid meeting such men in corridors or else be accustomed to unwanted behaviour that was so much the norm that us females accepted it as such. Nowadays such behaviour is called sexual harassment and those who commit it are seen for what they are predators who need to seek help if they cannot help themselves.

    The truth is that what was seen as normal in my young day is unacceptable today which shows that women are much more respected in society today than when I was a young girl.

    It is a better society for looking after the vulnerable in it but it is also sad to see that abuse is still widespread.

    Seeking God is always the right choice to make especially when I cannot make sense of this world because He makes a way when their seems to be no way and He gives me hope when I would otherwise despair.

    Footsteps walking with me
    Footsteps I cannot see
    But every move I make
    And every step I take
    I know they’re there with me
    They walk with me all the way
    Beside me day by day
    Through good and bad
    Through happy and sad
    Those footsteps won’t go away

    I’ll never walk in life alone
    There’ll always be someone there
    I know He won’t let me down
    He’s with me everywhere
    The special things in life I’ve done
    Has been through Him and His love
    I’ve been blessed in so many ways
    Thanks to the Lord above

    Footsteps walking with me
    Footsteps I cannot see
    But every move I make
    And every step I take
    I know they’re there with me
    They walk with me all the way
    Beside me day by day
    Through good and bad
    Through happy and sad
    Those footsteps won’t go away

    I think that my life’s been planned
    By the one who’s guiding me
    When I’m led by the hand
    Of someone I can’t see
    I’m not always sure where to go
    That’s when I follow His lead
    I know that the pathway that He shows
    Will help me to succeed

    Footsteps walking with me (footsteps walking)
    Footsteps I cannot see (I cannot see)
    But every move I make
    And every step I take
    I know they’re there with me
    They walk with me all the way
    Beside me day by day (day by day)
    Through good and bad
    Through happy and sad
    Those footsteps won’t go away
    Through good and bad
    Through happy and sad
    By my side they will stay

  14. poohpity says:

    The ever-loving rival of darkness or evil is Jesus who says that you do not need to hide from me because I know all about you. Jesus does not know us so well for purposes of greed or to gain power but to show us how much we are loved and valued even when our state of being often is soiled.

    Only those who want people to look up to them point out the deficiencies in/of others and spend the time digging for the dirt to expose. Jesus exposes our dirt so we will look to Him to get clean as we are being washed in His precious blood.

  15. poohpity says:

    I believe though that there is a time and place for public exposure of grievous acts especially of those in power who have blinded the public into thinking that they are above the law, rules that govern and keep chaos from happening. I am glad that Wikileaks has brought those incidences into light by sharing emails, etc. from the very people who wrote or said them because unless that comes out people will blindly think they are godlike and do no wrong when in reality the opposite is true.

  16. poohpity says:

    I for one would like to know what is in the hearts of those that are voted into power like in Congress and who it is they actually do represent because more often than not it sure does not seem that it is in the welfare of the American people but rather those who are big contributors to their campaigns, special interest groups or lobbyists which is where the greed, power and self interests come in.

  17. poohpity says:

    For our benefit and that of our country those need to be exposed.

  18. poohpity says:

    I was also thinking that many are placed on pedestals in government, pulpits, Hollywood, music and even in our own neighborhoods that really hold no place of honor usually those who need to honored are the one’s who put others above them themselves but sadly those are the one’s who are hated, rejected, persecuted and tossed away but Jesus said it is the least of these that He honors, those who humble themselves will exalted.

  19. Beloved says:

    Walking on the waters.

    Jesus said we WOULD have troubles in this world, but that He overcame them. Thinking we can also overcome them if we go His Way of thinking, speaking and living. That long road of obedience is weariness and inner troubles (though not always) yet we March on lifting our weary legs and fly as if on eagles wings. Joy all day, yes Maru!

  20. jeff1 says:

    I think that is what is happening not just in America but worldwide because as my mum always insisted the truth rises which means there is no where to hide as all is exposed.

    I am thinking of a famous face from Britain who was knighted by the Queen and after his death it was proven he had abused many in his life’s journey and so his knighthood was removed so even in death he did not escape the truth.

    It seems to be God’s law that all is exposed because that is how the truth is known.

    I put everything I do not understand to God’s will to explain it happening but that does not make it all God’s will but it satisfies my belief that God is in control of all that is happening.

    While God is ultimately in control I have to trust Him that whatever He brings my way is for the good of the Kingdom and may require sacrifice on my part or not.

    The bible didn’t get it wrong which means this world is not my home but it also means God is still in the driving seat of my life and whether I realize it or not He knows the best way home.

  21. poohpity says:

    Oh Viv, I so agree that much of what we see happening in this world is not the will of God in fact it is most often the exact opposite or even worse if that is even possible. I live in the hope of that time when His Will will be done where there will be no more sorrows, death, tears or pain (Rev 21:4) when God makes everything new. What a glorious day that will be!!!

  22. jeff1 says:

    It seems that there will not be peace on earth until Jesus’s return because humanity does not know how to make peace that lasts as when conflict ends in one part of the world then it starts up in another.

    The world was such a different place when I was a child that I do not envy the younger people but then thankfully they do not see the world from my view but rather see me as a dinosaur and that’s often what I feel like in a world that has changed so radically.

    Never mind aliens living on another planet that is exactly what I feel like living in this world today it is such a far cry from the world I grew up in.

  23. poohpity says:

    It seems different but really on a hole the same things have happened by mankind over thousands of years there is just more people now.

  24. Beloved says:

    Thinking about the years past, our Pastors’ sermon was on Psalm 107:1-43 NLT last Sunday. The last verse ends with “they will see in our history the faithful love of the LORD.”

  25. Beloved says:

    So, what is my focus tonight?

  26. street says:

    jeff said,”It seems that there will not be peace on earth until Jesus’s return because humanity does not know how to make peace that lasts as when conflict ends in one part of the world then it starts up in another.”

    in the world we have trouble and each day it’s own, but God has made peace with man through His Son. blessed are the peace makers for they are the children of God. this peace is an everlasting peace.

    yes jeff i remember those innocent days, yet i know i was not all i hope to be. the law showed me what i really was. it was not pretty in any way shape or from. it’s not until we fall on our faces and see and admit the real self is not what we hoped to be. imagine pleading guilty. me as a dinosaur longing for Righteousness and Love. payed for and proved by God. oh God make us peace makers!

  27. street says:

    ops ….proved….. spell error…provided

  28. jeff1 says:

    When I think of how long I was blinded that is I believed I could keep the commandments until failure after failure then I realize how God is so patient.

    My dad was a peace maker even though he was a warrior as I was told by a man who knew him that when he turned down by the marines for being colour blind he wasn’t going to be beaten and joined as a sailor. There was no conscription in Northern or Southern Ireland so service was voluntary.

    It’s men like him that seen war up close and personal that are peace makers because of what they seen and did and wished they didn’t have to.

    A young man goes of to war looking for adventure and gets more than he bargained for.

    Just like many of his time he couldn’t speak of it because it was too painful for him to go there.

    The past is best left in the past to my way of thinking but then I live in a country who cannot get past the past and I see how unhealthy that has been for all concerned.

    Why is it that we find it so hard to let go of that which holds us captive and perhaps I can answer that personally by knowing that it is fear of the unknown.

    I am so familiar with conflict that I cannot imagine a world without it and that is as sad as it gets.

    I don’t believe a younger generation can get it as badly wrong as we did because listening to them I believe they have the will to learn as they do not want to repeat history but make history and God will be with them as they do so and I shall have hope that a future without conflict is possible when the hearts and minds of people are not distorted by the carnage of war.

  29. SFDBWV says:

    I am a subscriber to Mtman’s web site, this morning he had a very amusing subject up about “social media” and “fake news”. It is funny how the truth is always recognized by our spirit and fake news (lies) always throw up a red flag.

    This is one of those subjects, “On WikiLeak Sea”, on which we combine the mood of our culture along with politics and try and segue it into our faith especially of Jesus Christ.

    Usually Mart doesn’t want politics discussed, but politics are a part of our culture and even as Jesus stood before Pilate it was politics that put Him there.

    Who among us has something to hide? And who are we hiding it from? We expect our politicians to be squeaky clean, but no one is squeaky clean. So they have plenty to “keep quiet” or locked in their closet.

    But you don’t have to be a politician to be in danger of being ‘outed” for any indiscretion, any public figure or high profile person is also under the microscope of todays “WikiLeaks” prying eyes.

    How many high profile TV preachers do you recall in the past few decades have lost their credibility and their following because their “sins” have been exposed?

    Then there are husbands and wives who cheat on each other, who want their “secret sin” kept secret.

    If you are a student of behavioral science you know that there are a great number of people who have peculiar sexual desires that I am certain they want kept very private. Yet todays computer savvy hackers can find anything that has been run through a computer and WikiLeaks is based on doing just that.

    One of those thing I learned in my earliest youth is that people enjoy seeing others fail. So they support and quickly accept whatever bad news they can hear about another person, especially someone successful or who may seem to be highly looked upon.

    WikiLeak Sea is here because human behavior craves it. Instead of its being a sea of water it is a sea of misinformation, lies, fake news, and a mob mentality that enjoys the public execution of anyone in its cross hairs.

    Jesus of Nazareth along with God the Father made a way to reconcile God and man, but it is more complicated to find the way to reconcile man with man.

    Jesus remaining the only way it is possible; Jesus is the only way.

    40 degrees and starting to rain.

    Steve

  30. jeff1 says:

    I believe it is wrong that celebrities are named before proven guilty and an entertainer here found innocent is suing the media for deformation of character.

    Having said that I believe that preachers have a responsibility to behave like a Godly man so as to honour their calling or failing be prepared to stand down for the sake of that calling.

    Here in both North and South of Ireland clerical abuse among priests and nuns in homes where children were believed to be safe has been widespread and as a result many younger catholic’s are not attending chapel and I have a hairdresser who is Roman Catholic and says they are wrong but I disagree with her because the church was aware of the abuse and instead of defrocking those involved they transferred them to other dioceses where they further abused.

    As a member of a protestant church I know that our clergy have expectations of themselves as does the congregation and if any of them dishonoured God in this way they would not be allowed to remain in the calling.

    I think preachers have a greater responsibility because rightly or wrongly I do expect them to behave better because of their calling and I know that in our churches here they very much expect that of themselves.

    Perhaps that is why we are short of clergy here as our expectations may be high but it is a high calling to preach the word of God and why trust must be established among clergy and parishioner’s for a church to flourish.

  31. poohpity says:

    At first I had high expectations of the clergy but from the very first Pastor I listened to who began his sermons in prayer thanking God for his forgiveness for his own sins, I was never lead to believe that he did not have any. Then God’s word also explains that ALL sin and fall short of the glory of God, so if anyone pretends not to have faults, failures or sin in their life I know they are living a lie and can not be trusted which are usually the one’s who make grand attempts at pointing out the sin in others while in denial about their own self and do not show grace very easily to others.

    To keep ourselves humble God asked us to share those faults, failures and sin with those we trust not to use them against us but to walk alongside each other in prayer, faith and humility.(James 5:16; Gal 6:1 NLT) The one thing about a godly person that is trustworthy is because they know that sin couches at their door as well and at anytime they may be in that same place, maybe with a different sin but sin nether the less.

  32. jeff1 says:

    I don’t believe that our clergy would say they are without sin but I am talking of those clergy who abused children and were allowed to carry on as priests and it was accepted in the church. This was not about confessing their sin but about covering it up and continuing to abuse and what about the further abuse of children which could have been avoided if they had done the right thing.

  33. poohpity says:

    Yes that is a terrible thing and to think if when the very thoughts about children had been confessed before they acted on them things could have been different. Yes they should not be able to ever be around children again as are other pedophiles. That church chose to deal with those things on their own which denies the consequences of the legal system which to me is not right at all.

  34. jeff1 says:

    The one thing about a Godly person is that he seeks God so that he does not sin otherwise he cannot call himself a Godly person.

    Being a believer does not make me a Godly person as any non believer would tell you.

    It takes a life lived struggling with sin, humility, failure and trusting on God that makes a Godly person or not.

  35. poohpity says:

    For since my son and myself were sexually abused the thoughts of cutting off their private parts seems to always come into my mind even though it was not from church leaders but does it make a difference who it comes from the act is repugnant all the same?

    In the new covenant when asked about following the Jewish laws given to Moses they were told these are the one’s that need to be followed by the new believers; “It seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us not to burden you with anything beyond these essential requirements: 29You must abstain from food sacrificed to idols, from blood, from the meat of strangled animals, and from sexual immorality. You will do well to avoid these things. Farewell.” Yes for those who say they are representing God we can see that it is only in word not from the heart to do such things and hopefully they will have to serve some consequences now for doing them to little children. However how great is God’s mercy for those who confess, didn’t Jesus redeem them as well if their hearts are really contrite.

  36. poohpity says:

    But Viv, there is not a godly person alive who does not sin in some form or another. No one will ever be sinless however they will sin less.

  37. poohpity says:

    A godly person is aware of that.

  38. poohpity says:

    If as person calls them self godly then they would never say they are without sin because that would be calling God a liar. 1 John 1:8

  39. poohpity says:

    1 John 1:10 NLT

  40. poohpity says:

    A godly person does not let sin define who we are but does allow what Jesus did for them to define who they are after they came to believe and are now saints, not sinless saints but saints who sin. Saints are only sinners who keep trying.

    “We Fall Down”

    Cursing every step of the way, he bore a heavy load
    To the market ten miles away, the journey took its toll
    And every day he passed a monastery’s high cathedral walls
    And it made his life seem meaningless and small

    And he wondered how it would be to live in such a place
    To be warm, well fed and at peace; to shut the world away

    So when he saw a priest who walked, for once, beyond the iron gate
    He said, “tell me of your life inside the place”
    And the priest replied

    We fall down, we get up
    We fall down, we get up
    We fall down, we get up
    And the saints are just the sinners
    Who fall down and get up

    Disappointment followed him home; he’d hoped for so much more
    But he saw himself in a light he had never seen before

    Cause if the priest who fell could find the Grace of God to be enough
    Then there must be some hope for the rest of us
    There must be some hope left for us

    We fall down, we get up
    We fall down, we get up
    We fall down, we get up
    And the saints are just the sinners
    Who fall down and get up

  41. Beloved says:

    I think that politics, catastrophes, injustices and personal horrors of any kind are all metaphors for the true spirituality Jesus talked about. Which is why beenthinking.org is a blog about learning to think like Jesus from a Godly perspective using world events to turn our thoughts upward instead of horizontally. As we change our vision our horizontal relationships will be blessed. Christ in us, to glorify Him.

  42. Beloved says:

    Metaphors for life in general is what I meant to say.

  43. jeff1 says:

    I have believed in God all my life but that was my heritage and now I asked myself after all that is happened in my country and in my life do I still believe in God or is it because I was brought up to believe in God and when I think of the moments that I know God was present in my life it is easy to say I trust God but then I remember the times He seemed absent and all the bad memories come flooding back and doubt plagues me, so there is little peace in a mind that is unstable as God can seem so very close to me one moment and so very distant in others.

    As you say there is no one who does not sin which means that life can be hell here on earth and often is and so not surprising death is often a welcome end to a struggle that cannot be won this side of heaven.

    We call on Him whenever storm clouds gather
    We call on Him to light our darkest day
    Why must it be that only when we’re lonely
    And hopes are dim, we call on Him

    Why don’t we call on Him before we lose our way
    To count our blessings and thank Him while we may

    We call on Him when no one else will answer
    We ask of Him a reason to go on
    When our cup of joy becomes a cup of sorrow
    Filled to the brim, we call on Him

    Why don’t we call on Him before we lose our way
    To count our blessings and thank Him while we may

  44. poohpity says:

    What Jesus did for us was so that we could live life to it’s fullest, be satisfied and enjoy walking with Him while here on earth. (John 10:10 NLT) It is the enemy who finds his way into our lives to focus us on the miserable things rather than the blessings that surround us everyday and the knowing that God is working behind the things we can see to make things beautiful. After we begin to count the blessings with a thankful and grateful heart our whole view on life changes, we start to see the good, just and right things rather than all the bad, ugly and horrible.

  45. foreverblessed says:

    Very good advice: we focus on the good things not on the bad things!
    Actually we learn to focus on Jesus, always, but especially in trouble.
    Good song, and a good point: why don’t we call on Him in good times?

    Trouble itself does not change us, but because of the trouble we get closer to Jesus, we seek His face.

    One question: What does Mart mean with the rival?
    A loving rival…

  46. street says:

    following the thread.
    thinking of the verse, don’t make the sweet bitter and the bitter sweet.

    was in a discussion last nite and was thinking, where dose sin gets it’s power from? if a sinner is a slave to sin, how does this sin maintain control or keep it’s power or dominion? where did abraham’s obedience come from? what power/energy motivated his actions thoughts and speech.

    job saw God in the good things that happen to him and saw Him face to face in the adversity. job received everything he asked for and more. he asked for the right things, therefor proving God right in calling him righteous. God see things much better than we do. trustworthy and faithful. unworthy servant.

  47. Beloved says:

    The ever loving rival is Jesus, Forever. He is with us in the darkness saying follow Me!

  48. jeff1 says:

    Trouble has not made me a better person or a bitter person but it has made me a sad person who looks forward to heaven because this world holds no attraction for me other than my family and friends.

    God does understand that I have seen so much misery in this world and in my homeland that I long for to be with Him.

    God knows us as individuals and does not put burdens on us, we do that to each other as is our nature to do so while God allows me to be sad if I am sad or happy when I am happy with no pressure to be what I am not.

  49. Beloved says:

    Jesus is a rival to the workers of darkness.

  50. poohpity says:

    God never pressures us to think any particular way but just provided a different way, it all comes down to personal choices which to feed. The evil, sad, unforgiving side or the joy from being freed from that side to look for the good, mercy filled, gracious and forgiving side. It is our choice. We can feed the darkness or feed looking to the light but God has provided us with that choice.

    We are freed also from sin we also have a choice there as well. After we have identified what sin is we are no longer chained to that but have the freedom to choose.

    Romans 6;
    Do not let sin control the way you live; do not give in to sinful desires. 13 Do not let any part of your body become an instrument of evil to serve sin. Instead, give yourselves completely to God, for you were dead, but now you have new life. So use your whole body as an instrument to do what is right for the glory of God. 14 Sin is no longer your master, for you no longer live under the requirements of the law. Instead, you live under the freedom of God’s grace.

    15 Well then, since God’s grace has set us free from the law, does that mean we can go on sinning? Of course not! 16 Don’t you realize that you become the slave of whatever you choose to obey? You can be a slave to sin, which leads to death, or you can choose to obey God, which leads to righteous living. 17 Thank God! Once you were slaves of sin, but now you wholeheartedly obey this teaching we have given you. 18 Now you are free from your slavery to sin, and you have become slaves to righteous living.

    19 Because of the weakness of your human nature, I am using the illustration of slavery to help you understand all this. Previously, you let yourselves be slaves to impurity and lawlessness, which led ever deeper into sin. Now you must give yourselves to be slaves to righteous living so that you will become holy.

    20 When you were slaves to sin, you were free from the obligation to do right. 21 And what was the result? You are now ashamed of the things you used to do, things that end in eternal doom. 22 But now you are free from the power of sin and have become slaves of God. Now you do those things that lead to holiness and result in eternal life. 23 For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.

  51. jeff1 says:

    Do you not think Pooh that God is sad when He sees people going to the dark side and not listening for His small voice as Jesus died for this world and yet because of religions, politics, cults, people are being lead astray and does that not make you feel sad for others as Jesus had a heart for others because He died for them so there is nothing wrong with being sad for a world that cannot see Jesus in it.

    So do not judge me for being sad, Pooh, as I have a God who understands, I am sad because so many do not seek Him as I know He would be their rock as He has been mine.

    God is an inclusive God and the problems with Christianity today is that it has failed to get that message across to the world.

    Its knowing that God is inclusive and not exclusive that gives me hope for a better world to come because He will do what humans fail to do because we need God more than He needs us and that just shows our arrogance and not our humility in failing to recognise that God is in control only I am still to blind to see Him.

  52. Beloved says:

    Street: was in a discussion last nite and was thinking, where dose sin gets it’s power from? if a sinner is a slave to sin, how does this sin maintain control or keep it’s power or dominion? where did abraham’s obedience come from? what power/energy motivated his actions thoughts and speech.

    God. He creates and He destroys. We can say no to sinning, even if it must be done 50 times a day. Yet sins power and dominion were broken at the cross. Abraham’s obedience came from God I think to fulfill Gods desire that He be the father of His people. I believe I read that it was common practice among pagan peoples to sacrifice their firstborn son to gain favor from the gods in the form of good crops. If Abraham was familiar with this practice then a test would be called for to prove Abraham’s faithfulness, like Job I’m thinking.

  53. Beloved says:

    1 Peter 5:11

    11 For all power belongs to God, now and forever. Amen.

  54. SFDBWV says:

    Hoping all have a happy Thanksgiving today.

    Remembering what we all have to be thankful for.

    22 degrees with a mixture of clouds and stars.

    Steve

  55. foreverblessed says:

    Happy Thanksgiving!
    My husband is on Twitter, and showed me a film of the traffic jam on the highways, at dark, a pretty sight! All these lights, white and red, filling the highways.
    Imagine, if all these people would sing praises to God together, enjoying the time?
    Psalm 67:3,7

  56. foreverblessed says:

    “You have no rival,
    You have no equal,
    Now and forever God you reign
    Yours is the kingdom,
    Yours is the glory,
    Yours is the name above all names-

    What a powerful Name it is,
    What a beautiful Name it is,
    the Name of Jesus Christ my King
    What a beautiful Name it is,
    Nothing compares to this
    What a beautiful Name it is,
    the Name of Jesus.”

    A song called: What a beautiful Name, by Fielding&Ligertwood

    I had been to a national worship day on Saturday, and we did a lot of rehearsing on this song. How to sing it, the dynamics of the instruments, etc. The words almost make me cry, so beautiful!

  57. jeff1 says:

    For all power belongs to God now and forever and in difficult seasons of life I doubt that but it is true never the less. It is those with the faith in the difficult seasons of life to trust God that are obedient like Abraham for they do not doubt God.

    Thomas was sceptical at first when he had heard that Jesus had risen from the dead and appeared to the other apostles, saying, except I shall see in his hands the print of the nails, and put my finger into the print of the nails, and thrust my hand into his side, I will not believe. But then Jesus appeared later and invited Thomas to touch His wounds and behold him, Thomas showed his belief by saying, My Lord and my God. Jesus then said, Thomas, because thou has seen me, thou hast believed: blessed (are) they that have not seen, and (yet) have believed.

    Faith is indeed a gift from God but Jesus did not send Thomas away empty handed showing that it is God who is faithful even to the doubters.

  58. jeff1 says:

    Beloved that is your post 22/11 8.39 pm I am referring to in the above post. Thank you for I need to keep reminding that God is in control of all.

  59. poohpity says:

    wow, Viv, I did not imply that there is anything wrong with being sad and half my comment was in reply to street’s questions. To me it is wonderful to be honest about our feelings or thoughts whatever they may be but I do know that when I look around at all the bad and pay attention to that all the time it is depressing, sad and can even give rise to anger then I miss all the good things I have to be grateful and thankful for and grumble about the things I do not have rather than what I do have. If that upsets you I apologize but that is how I have chosen to live my life not perfect at it but I sure would rather be in a mindset of gratitude than that of constant depression which I used to be in and even had to be on medication. So you don’t tell me how to feel because I have been there and do not want to go back again. I am thankful and grateful for all that God has given me in my new life with new eyes to see and ears to hear and a new heart, mind and outlook. My life changed when I started in this relationship with the Lord and I am more than just grateful I am over come with joy and that does not mean I still do not have days of feeling sad or depressed or self pity or anger but I do not have to stay in it. So maybe reread what I wrote and see that it was not meant to tell you or anyone else how to do or feel anything but just that there is a different way and we have a choice to follow it or not.

  60. poohpity says:

    One evening an old Cherokee told his grandson about a battle that goes on inside people.
    He said, “My son, the battle is between two wolves inside us all.

    “One is Evil – It is anger, envy, jealousy, sorrow, regret, greed, arrogance, self-pity, guilt, resentment, inferiority, lies, false pride, superiority, and ego.

    “The other is Good – It is joy, peace, love, hope, serenity, humility, kindness, benevolence, empathy, generosity, truth, compassion and faith.”

    The grandson thought about it for a minute and then asked his grandfather: “Which wolf wins?”

    The old Cherokee simply replied, “The one you feed.”

    When upon life’s billows you are tempest-tossed,
    When you are discouraged, thinking all is lost,
    Count your many blessings, name them one by one,
    And it will surprise you what the Lord has done.

    Refrain:
    Count your blessings, name them one by one,
    Count your blessings, see what God has done!
    Count your blessings, name them one by one,
    *Count your many blessings, see what God has done. [*And it will surprise you what the Lord has done.]

    Are you ever burdened with a load of care?
    Does the cross seem heavy you are called to bear?
    Count your many blessings, every doubt will fly,
    And you will keep singing as the days go by.
    When you look at others with their lands and gold,
    Think that Christ has promised you His wealth untold;
    Count your many blessings—*money cannot buy [*wealth can never buy]

    Your reward in heaven, nor your home on high.
    So, amid the conflict whether great or small,
    Do not be discouraged, God is over all;
    Count your many blessings, angels will attend,
    Help and comfort give you to your journey’s end.

  61. poohpity says:

    I think God is always sad when we chose to look to, trust in and believe in everything else but Him and follow the ways of the world rather than His.

  62. jeff1 says:

    Pooh’s post: 22/11 6.27 pm

    God never pressurizes to think any particular way but just provided a different way it just comes down to personal choice which to feed. The evil, sad, unforgiving side or the joy from being freed from that side to look for the good, mercy filled, gracious and forgiving side. It is our choice we can feed the darkness or feed looking to the light but God has provided us with that choice.

    Was that in relation to my 5.38pm post?

    You know, Pooh, arrogantly, I thought that all the other’s who have spoken of your twisted mind-set must be miss understanding you as no one would call themselves a follower of Christ and then discourage other believers by quoting words that are downright nasty in their intent and then try to pathetically justify them.

    I did not tell you how to feel but your above post was putting the boot in at me feeling sad so do not try to tell me otherwise because the other’s here have been right about you and I was just to stupid to see it but you can fool a person some of the time but you can’t fool them all of the time.

    You are no friend to other believers here so please do not direct your posts to me as whatever my comments I have no interest in reading your comments which are as usual negative when it comes to others but yourself.

    I am glad that you are in a mind-set of gratitude and shows God that gratitude because you sure don’t come across to me that way as a matter of fact if I wasn’t depressed before I read your comments I sure am after I read them.

  63. street says:

    last sunday our pastor spoke on how complaining completely forgets the past, even going so far as saying we had it better in egypt. and yes poo it obliterates the joy of the present and clouds the future. we are warned to stay far from it, like condemning others. thinking faith is exercising trust and love in God, Who can make a way when there is no way. even loving, the unlovable, i am. thinking of isaac moving till there was peace around a well.

  64. SFDBWV says:

    Take courage Viv you are not alone and are loved. The biggest thing I have against having friends so far away is when I can’t reach out and touch them.

    Sometimes a hand on the arm or a hug is all we need to know we are loved and in good company.

    The biggest thing I enjoy about having friends so far away is that they can share with me their culture, the differences between us and the common ground as well.

    I am sure you are familiar with “Thanksgiving” here in the USA and our language difference between a turkey and a goose. I hope at least you are. Or I may inadvertently confuse you.

    I have stuffed my 19 pound turkey with a sautéed onion and celery mixed with dry bread bits. Added some turkey broth and have it in the oven. I have put on potatoes to mash later and have a cauliflower and broccoli cheese casserole ready to go as soon as the turkey comes out. I will use the turkey broth from the roasted turkey to cook my noodles in. Of course I have corn as well, and of course turkey gravy. I have dinner rolls, but they are mostly only for sopping up the gravy.

    I love to cook this meal and do it a few times a year. The only thing I like more than cooking it is sharing it.

    I wish you and Foreverblessed as well as Bubbles Pearl and Pat lived close enough to have dinner today with us. Certainly I did not name everyone as the list is far too long, but all would be welcome at my table.

    I hope you have a super excellent day and are blessed above your desires.

    Steve

  65. street says:

    On Wikileak Sea

    Revelation 21:1
    Then I saw a new heaven and a new earth; for the first heaven and the first earth passed away, and there is no longer any sea.

  66. jeff1 says:

    Thank you for understanding, Steve, I should have listened to others who knew better but thankfully others comments on here are uplifting, correcting with love and I am blessed to have found this blog.

    Your thanksgiving meal is sounding very tasty and not unlike our Christmas day meal except we have sprouts, carrots, cauliflower cheese and bread & herb stuffing with our turkey and mash and roast potatoes.

    I and my two sons usually go to my sister and brother-in-law who do a lovely meal and as you say it is sharing with loved ones that makes it so special.
    So thank you for the invitation Steve and I know you will all enjoy sharing it as I will imagining I am sharing it.

    Although I have heard of thanksgiving because of films that I watch I am not that familiar with it other than it sounds similar to our Harvest thanksgiving which we have in October.

    Thank you for the blessing and may God bless you too.

  67. Beloved says:

    Its hard to imagine life without a sea. As many times as I’ve read that verse I’d never noticed the reference to the sea before. New heaven and new earth! Hard to imagine. I’ve been thinking about the thread today and imagining us all sitting down together at the LORDS table. Hard a!so to imagine.

    I was alone today so made my own turkey breast and anything I could peel and cut up added to it. I have leftovers, so those of you that were not invited to another’s table are invited to share a blessing of remembrance for what Jesus has done with whatever leftovers you may have today around 5 or 6 pm wherever you may be in the world. We are one in the Spirit, even though estranged in spirit.

  68. jeff1 says:

    Beloved, I’ve never been good at imagining and I love watching shows that show you a house when it is old and in ruin and along comes the experts and transforms it to a dream home.

    Just can’t imagine what our new bodies will be like Beloved, its so difficult trying to imagine not getting sick or all the other afflictions that this world brings.

    No wonder we find it so hard to get our heads around it because it is so beyond human understanding and so very much the miraculous work of God.

    God will make a way for us as this song goes.

    God will make a way
    Where there seems to be no way
    He works in ways we cannot see
    He will make a way for me

    He will be my guide
    Hold me closely to His side
    With love and strength for each new day
    He will make a way, He will make a way

    By a roadway in the wilderness, He’ll lead me
    And rivers in the desert will I see
    Heaven and Earth will fade but His word will still remain
    And He will do something new today

    Oh, God will make a way
    Where there seems to be no way
    He works in ways we cannot see
    He will make a way for me

    He will be my guide
    Hold me closely to His side
    With love and strength for each new day
    He will make a way, He will make a way

    By a roadway in the wilderness, He’ll lead me
    And rivers in the desert will I see
    Heaven and Earth will fade but His word will still remain
    And He will do something new today

    Oh, God will make a way
    Where there seems to be no way
    He works in ways we cannot see
    He will make a way for me

    He will be my guide
    Hold me closely to His side
    With love and strength for each new day
    He will make a way, He will make a way

    With love and strength for each new day
    He will make a way, He will make a way

  69. Beloved says:

    Even though my children do not call or come to visit (nor return my calls, texts rarely) I received a text from my daughter thanking me for raising her and for pointing her to God. When the pain of disappointment dies down what’s really important remains. Fallen, broken world with broken people/relationships yet there is a New World coming; no more pain, disappointment, tears. Hallelujah!

  70. Beloved says:

    Viv I enjoy fixer upper shows also. I like the character of the older homes, pre WWII.

  71. jeff1 says:

    You would love York in England, Beloved, I went on a coach tour once and it is very old world, older homes, with cobbled streets, curiosity shops, a beautiful cathedral. I only visited for a day and did not get to see enough of it but fell in love with what I did see.

    It was expensive but sightseeing costs nothing and we treated ourselves to tea & scones in this speciality tea rooms where you were served real tea and the waitresses were dressed like in the old days and they served you rather than us having to serve ourselves.

    It made us feel like royalty for a day and did our hearts good.

    I am glad your daughter contacted you, relationships are difficult and that includes my relationship with God because I don’t always feel His presence in this world but that we can connect with each other on a blog like this which makes the world a small place if you think about it.

    Just imagine me in one of the smallest countries with only 1.8 million inhabitants in the whole of Northern Ireland and you in one of the largest countries so God really does make a way doesn’t he. God cares, Beloved, and as long as we keep on caring we are never as far from Him as we think we are.

  72. poohpity says:

    Viv, if you think me saying “God never pressures us to think any particular way but just provided a different way, it all comes down to personal choices which to feed. The evil, sad, unforgiving side or the joy from being freed from that side to look for the good, mercy filled, gracious and forgiving side. It is our choice. We can feed the darkness or feed looking to the light but God has provided us with that choice.” which is the exact quote not with additional input means I have a twisted mine set to you and others then that actually shows who’s mind set is twisted.

  73. Beloved says:

    Sounds like a wonderful experience Viv. My favorite decorating style is English Cottage, my grandmothers side was English/Irish and I always wanted to travel there. I even had dreams of attending Oxford but settled for a couple friends who attended, and now our pastors son in law is studying there so they go frequently. The Internet has made possible relationships we would never have dreamed- thinking of 2nd grade pen pals and letter writing which was fun but a lot of waiting between letters! On this Thanksgiving Day am thankful for friends all over the globe and especially with my disability it helps greatly, as I have difficulty trusting people. Thank you to all here who call me friend.

    Blessings, Joyce

  74. poohpity says:

    I had a wonderful Thanksgiving day with some old friends and met some new one’s. First I went to the Salvation Army luncheon prepared by the “Cheesecake Factory” with about 15 old friends and enjoyed meeting some new people. Then went to dinner at my kids uncle’s home and talked and laughed for about 3 hours, did some dishes and was sent home with leftovers which is always a blessing. It was a fun filled day and still have a smile on my face this evening. I am so grateful for God, friends, food and serving others.

  75. SFDBWV says:

    Though it is the day after “Thanksgiving” I wanted to say to any of you to use whatever search engine you use and look up the official proclamation that established the third Thursday of November as being a national day of thanksgiving.

    Established by Congress and signed into law by President George Washington.

    Read the words and references to God as to whom we give thanks.

    It is far too long for me to copy over to this blog, but I do hope all of you take the time to read it.

    In my opinion todays dinner will be better as leftover’s from this meal are the best.

    Once again, we hope all of you today are filled to overflowing with joy and peace.

    Steve

  76. poohpity says:

    Is Jesus leading the way in my life or have I allowed the voices of those who can not walk on water or quiet wild, swirling winds lead me over a cliff into an abyss of ugliness, depravity or even worse? I have to be very careful who I listen to because often the world screams louder than the gentle, ever-loving voice of my Savior. Do I know Jesus well enough to recognize His voice or have I become so accustomed to the sounds of the flesh that I can not hear Him clearly enough when He says, ““It’s me”. “Don’t be afraid.” “Follow me”. or even want to recognize the truth or life because of formed prejudices or the things that divide and cause strife that I cling to so tightly if the Lord was standing right in front of me, would I walk by and pay no attention to Him? When He asks me to “follow” do I find reason to go the other way because someone has lead me down a false path that leads into the darkness?

  77. poohpity says:

    Or do I listen to the darkness of one who thinks that ever-loving is a covert cuss word rather than about the One who forever loves and that nothing or no one can ever separate us from His love? We must always be careful of who we listen to because the enemy can come in the disguise of a angel of light that is why he is also called the deceiver who’s main goal is to direct us away from following the Way, Truth or the Life to lead us into the path of accusations, condemnation and to look for the worst in others rather than the best then finds satisfaction when people follow the darkness of hate, malice and rejection of fellow believers.

  78. Beloved says:

    Pooh I think there is a third option called wisdom. Thinking of wheat and tares lately and how Jesus said let them be, God would sort them out in the end. Yet it is obvious to unbelievers when one is a Christ follower and not always so obvious to believers, I wonder why? Wisdom maybe? Talking the talk is easy for anyone to pick up. It’s walking the Road that’s hard to do. Takes a humility far greater than man can achieve on his own. Takes death to self, including what I want/expect even from others. Complaining only makes dying to self more painful than it really is. Complaining makes the process longer and more painful for everyone around them. Pride falls hard.

  79. Beloved says:

    Pride dies hard also.

  80. jeff1 says:

    Pooh’s post 23/11 8.04 pm

    Pooh, I am not seeing you as twisted just because of my post but I have seen your comments to Steve, Forever and Joyce in the past and I thought then they were from a twisted mind but I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt.

    I have met enough people in my life who love to quote bible verses or their own words to point out your weaknesses but thankfully I know God accepts me as I am so I don’t need your approval to be sad as God does know why I am sad while you do not.

    I did not choose to feed my sadness but war, illness and other calamities caused what my doctors says (because here we do not label)is a chemical imbalance which causes psychotic episodes and so I take tablets to keep me functioning. I have to avoid stress or I can have relapses which are difficult for my family and friends as I do not trust them in this state of mind.

    I am not going to allow someone who has to be right all the time to try and make me feel guilty when I have God who cares that I stay well and accepts me as I am because He loves me whether I measure up to another’s human’s standards or not.

    It’s people like that which has caused such a falling away from God because they have changed God beyond recognition and instead of drawing people to God they drive people away from Him.

    In the end God draws people to Himself because He cares for their personal pain and suffering rather than using words to condemn them with.

    Be silent before the Lord GOD! For the day of the Lord is near…let all the earth keep silence before Him.

  81. foreverblessed says:

    Col 2:6-7
    The verse of biblegateway, it ends with:
    Overflowing with thankfulness!
    – every day –
    It is something I have to learn, choices to make every other moment: what can I be thankfully for?
    Always possible to answer in faith: for Jesus’ Cross.

    I didn’t know Thanksgiving day has no date to it.
    Just Thursdays! Do you guys get free on Friday as well?
    A long weekend!
    (Oh, the television on, and talks about black Friday. Buying and buying.)
    Maybe this feast has its roots in the Feast of Tabernacles, Leviticus 23.

    A time of great festivities!
    Jesus’ mission started with a Feast, a wedding!
    Just to look to a big Feast, Jesus marrying the Bride!

    We will all eat together, maybe with turkey, but sure with wine.
    And I’ll see all of you.

  82. street says:

    battle royal On Wikileak Sea

    poo said,”We must always be careful of who we listen to because the enemy can come in the disguise of a angel of light that is why he is also called the deceiver who’s main goal is to direct us away from following the Way, Truth or the Life to lead us into the path of accusations, condemnation and to look for the worst in others rather than the best then finds satisfaction when people follow the darkness of hate, malice and rejection of fellow believers.”

    listening, is one thing, following is much harder. whatever we listen too we must sift it like wheat. can’t built with wood hay and stubble. will not hold up to fire. as for sifting the only worthy and reliable sifting device is the Word of God. i cringe when is write that. not a tool but a Person, or Holy Spirit. handling the Word apart from the Spirit is foolishness,then again, God is gracious to His children. the religious leaders got caught sitting in the seats of moses, clueless. remembering spurgon saying he was far worse a person than his accuser claimed him to be. he was quite right. me too! as for looking at others we are warned to look to and follow Jesus. Jesus said to His disciples,” you give them something to eat.” they were smart and brought what they had to Jesus. Jesus instructed from there. we are most obedient when we come to the end of ourselves and to God. i think this is a work of God not man.

  83. poohpity says:

    street you are on the wrong blog to direct people to follow Jesus or to share His words. There is not much desire for that on here or to even to get to know Him because that is seen as arrogance if anyone does.

  84. Beloved says:

    Thank you LORD. I happen to be the most arrogant person I know, but God is teaching me to as Viv said “be still”. Be still about what LORD? About knowing how to talk ABOUT Jesus instead of giving what I have to Him (thanks street) and letting Him do what He does better than anyone, change hearts. Change hearts how LORD? To a heart once captive to sin to a heart toward God.

    Does God hurt the sin in us? Yes, but He is always gentle with the sinner (remembering the prodigal). Be kind one to another, forgiving as God has forgiven us.

  85. Beloved says:

    Sorry, that’s From a heart once captive to sin to a heart toward God. What does a heart toward God look like? Failed again, big time :(. A heart that is obedient to God and free from idols. Serving Him and others, loving God above all things. LORD have mercy.

  86. jeff1 says:

    Why is it Pooh that you cannot admit like anyone else here does that you are as guilty of being arrogant as I am! Just read your post for goodness sake arrogance is all over it assuming that no one desires to know Jesus!

    Your whole attitude to me because I do not read my bible is one of arrogance because the truth is you think I am less of a Christian because I don’t but what gives you the right to judge me!

    My dad never read his bible for knowledge but for encouragement and help which is what I believe God intended us to read it for and not so that we become unbearably knowledgeable and bash every other who does not come up to our expectations over the head with it so now I know where the expression bible bashers comes from.

    My dad was obedient to God and his life reflected it and I know more about God from my dad than anyone else on this planet because he put God first in his life which meant he walked the walk rather than talk the talk.

    The Christians that I have met in my life who have humbled me by their Godliness are the ones whom I love to share my time with in the hope that they rub off on me and I become as Christ like as them.

    Ever try just walking into church and being silent before God and feeling His presence that is how I know God when I get away from the noise and the chaos of this world and that does my heart good and if that does not fit into your standard of me being a Christian Pooh, I really couldn’t care two hoots.

    Why is it that every other person on this blog makes me feel welcome and not judged but you Pooh! Are you so arrogant that you never ask yourself why you have upset so many on this blog that there is just the slightest possibility that they might just have a point about your words and attitude to others or do you really not care that much for people because to my way of thinking Jesus cared very much for people so much that He went to the cross for us and so when I stop caring for others whether they are believers or not I stop having a heart for God.

  87. Beloved says:

    God enables repentance. I heard that today and was surprised, forgetting how years ago I was very aware that repentance came from God.

    On the WikiLeaks sea God still lives, moves, and in Him we have our being. Finding out more and more that whether a legalistic pharisee or legalistic Christ follower you’re actually dead in the water without the Spirits enabling.

  88. Beloved says:

    Viv and Pooh,
    May the LORD bless you and keep you, may He make His face to shine upon you and give you His peace.

  89. street says:

    dear poo, i like to think of myself as a fence post, just as smart as one. people come by and hang their sign on it. most of the time it’s bad info. Jesus said you will be able to tell the good from the bad. the world can not. i do know we are to point them to Jesus, The Way,The Truth and The Life. His post didn’t look too healthy, but we must consider the outcome. the other trees keep dying. the dead tree gives life. satan said you will not die, Jesus said you will never die.

    thinking the real beast, in 1 Corinthians 15:30-32, is my pride. pride is chief among sinners. we are told to look at others as more important than ourselves. God thought we were that important, to send His Son. They are One.

    pointing by following, requires emptying. i have to admit sometimes a fence post can fail, God never does.
    hang in there.

    this emptying reminds me of “i am crucified with Christ” verse Galatians 2:20. crucified in the past tense or completed. it sure doesn’t seem that way a lot of the time. peace, bind together. this stillness, to strive for or to trust?

  90. Beloved says:

    Ha ha I think stillness and striving are antithetical, trust is like being empty which I am working on even now. Takes many many years to make a saint I’m thinking. Wonder if I can make it to 150 years lol. (Reason to get to the gym fast!)

  91. SFDBWV says:

    So many directions a subject about “WikiLeaks” can take me, but this morning I want to talk a little about how we as Christians are not of this world.

    Especially a world of “WikiLeaks”

    We are to stand out from the crowd as being different. Not like the mob of itchy eared busybodies who want to hear all about others, especially if it is embarrassing.

    Character is what being a Christian is all about. Showing the broken world that there is something better in the world than all the ugly normal they see every day.

    We are to be a light, a guiding light out of the darkness for all who don’t know their way as yet.

    If we behave as the world does we still walk in darkness.

    By our actions more so than our words, yet our speech is also to reflect that same guiding light.

    There are better things to worry about than “WikiLeaks”.

    We have buried two this week, people here always die in three or more, wondering who may be next.

    The temperature has risen from 24 to 37 in the last 30 minutes, rain must be on its way.

    Steve

  92. jeff1 says:

    I have heard non believers speak of how they wish they had faith and when I think of how hard it must be for them not believing in a better world to come then I wonder if God is not drawing them to Himself as He is believers. I don’t know what God is doing in others lives but I believe he is trying to improve my character to make me more like Him.

    The actions and the words of a believer have to be aligned otherwise I look to a non believer as if I am talking out of my backside and the truth is I am.

    Listen to those christians whose heart and mind knows God and they will draw you to Him as they are drawn.

    If a my words and actions are opposed then my mind and heart are opposed and I cannot trust my own understanding of God’s intention.

    I have said before and I will say it again my dad’s obedience came from a heart and mind fixed on God because it was by stability of mind that his heart was fixed on God.

    I can have a heart for God but without stability of mind then I will be up and down like a yoyo (as I am) when it comes to trusting God and that is why I do not trust myself when discerning God’s will but look to those like my dad who can be trusted.

    Jesus lead and there are leaders on earth and followers and I should know my place if I am listening to God.

  93. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Viv. I just want to say that in my opinion you do just fine in demonstrating Christ’s character here.

    I think there is a great deal of your dad in you.

    Thank you for bringing some light to this sometimes dark place.

    Steve

  94. poohpity says:

    Thank you street, I will.

  95. poohpity says:

    The one thing I have found reading Wikileaks is that it often takes it’s information through hacking direct from the person’s own written words but one would have to consider does two wrongs make a right. The information revealed is truth but it is obtained through illegal means so should it be still kept secret if it has to do with national security or those who have fooled the public into thinking they can walk on water?

    What public official will admit to taking bribes, selling their high position or vote for profit, ruining a running mate by backhanded means and greed, trying to hide wrong doing by getting rid of the person who knows about it, discrediting another to make their self look good, etc.?

    In our relationship with God we are to admit our own faults and failures so that our brothers/sisters can walk alongside us in mercy and grace however what often happens to those who hear the admissions, if their heart is not right with God, they use those confessions as a weapon to attack the person who shared them. Sharing those faults, sins or failures are a treasure from the heart, pearls, with a person who is a safe place and will feel like they are under a shade tree of grace rather than a rod of condemnation, judgement and rejection. That is why it seems more prudent to find an accountability partner that one knows will be honest but also filled with mercy and grace because they know that they walk this same journey and have found that same mercy and grace from our Savior. Someone who will still love you no matter what and thank you for trusting them enough to be open and honest.

    Those two scenarios are totally different but if the second type of person were to hear from the first type even though secrets are revealed no matter what truth is revealed they would still be a safe place and receive the mercy and grace that they were shown by our Jesus.

  96. Beloved says:

    I’ve never yet found an accountability partner who can love me like Jesus. And I’ve tried, oh how I tried, but the funny thing is those who have loved me with mercy and Grace have always pointed me to Jesus, the final authority because He is the author of mercy and Grace.

  97. Beloved says:

    God has removed many good people from my life, but through the heartaches and disappoinments what I found was He wanted me to learn to walk with Him alone. He is enough! People are a gift to me, though not my all and everything as learned through a heart broken early in childhood.
    I think Viv said we should be looking for the good in people, instead of hurting them. All good comes from God, so I think she is on the right track. Thinking being more thankful for the good we see makes Kingdom sense.

  98. SFDBWV says:

    Joyce your last post reminded me of an “ouch” moment I had with God many years ago.

    And yes I have heard the voice of God several times, and yes sometimes they are ouch moments, yet said with a love that carries no ill feeling what so ever.

    Seeking that one perfect love for my life as I prayed He simply said “Am I not enough.”

    Still He provided me with what I thought I wanted, but His words have never departed from my heart.

    Thanks for the memory.

    Steve

  99. poohpity says:

    No human being can love you like Jesus because they are human beings and they can not walk on water or quite wild, swirling winds but because they know they are also prone to fault, failures and sin can show the grace and mercy God showed to them, not perfectly but imperfectly. What happens often is people push others away before they ever have a chance to show them grace and mercy. One can not love a rose if every time they reach for the flower they grab thorns so often they will stop trying until they figure out how to reach out and avoid the thorns or wear gloves so the thorns will not effect them.

  100. Beloved says:

    People will ALWAYS disappoint us in one way or another, and visaversa.

  101. street says:

    i don’t think most people can handle a confession of an offense that was committed against another. best just to listen and forget it. a sure road to disaster is to talk about other people. using memories as examples for support can get you into trouble too. the best example and standard has always been God not people. don’t need more me, just need more God. muster seed anyone?

  102. Beloved says:

    Oops that’s vice versa.

  103. Beloved says:

    You are right Street I’ve learned to be careful who I confess my sins against others to, but those counselors I’ve confessed to seemingly forgot almost instantly. Not so with most believers though as they are too shocked to forget. Not their fault, wisdom is a learned thing.

  104. jeff1 says:

    I believe God wants us to be always learning as that is what this world is a training ground and I have to see God’s hand still in this world even though the world itself is becoming alien to me because of change that I cannot keep up with.

    I need to look to a younger generation because God equips them as He does us and He fixes our mess ups through them.
    This country has been doomed by one generation to the next and even though our politicians have failed us once again I trust God to turn this country around through young people who have the will to move on and the right attitude to make it possible.

    As Sir Winston Churchill said when we fail to learn then we are doomed to repeat and I don’t believe a younger generation will repeat because they seen the cost of fighting and they know there are no winners on any side when it comes to war.

    May God move people in the direction of peace in a world that so desperately needs it.

  105. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All
    I pray all is well in your lives, and I hope everyone had a happy/thankful/grateful Thanksgiving Day… a time to reflect on the unfathomable goodness, grace and mercy the Lord has bestowed on us this year and the years prior!
    I spent part of the day at church… we had a *phenomenal* service! It was such an abundant BLESSING for me! And I spent part of the day with my sister, her family, extended family members and friends… We had a great time of fellowship… though my sister forgot that I’m a vegetarian (though I’ve been reminding her for 5 years), and the whole TG meal was prepared for meat eaters…
    Thankfully, I’ve learned (throughout the years) to bring something with me just in case… something shelf stable that I can just toss in a bag (Thursday’s menu: Sandwich [Strawberry Jelly & bread–was craving it], Vegetarian Split Pea Soup, a big apple, 3 breakfast cookies and a big bottle of water).
    Well, I’m doing laundry right now, so I’ll chat with you all later…

    60 degrees and partly cloudy in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,
    Regina

  106. SFDBWV says:

    Knowing that it is much too early to expect a different subject and seeing that the thread of conversation hasn’t produced a direction of interest it is difficult to know where to begin.

    Usually I wait for inspiration to say anything here, though I am guilty of sometimes writing something then deleting it and saying nothing at all.

    I do wish that Mart would join in the conversation as he once did and I wish also that those who have remained silent for a plethora of reasons would come back and comment.

    I am also guilty of having a huge imagination and far too often can get way off the track with tangent thoughts and related subject matter. Staying focused is hard for me to do when some thoughts generate many more.

    For instance the last paragraph of Mart’s topic is somewhat confusing in saying that “Today on Wikileak Sea, no one seems to be able to walk on water, or quiet wild, swirling winds. In the darkness we might think we are seeing a ghost, a devil, or worse. But let’s not be surprised if we hear the familiar voice of an ever loving rival, saying, “It’s me.” “Don’t be afraid.” “Follow me”.

    At first I thought Mart was referring to Jesus since he quoted Him. But as I read it how is Jesus an “ever loving rival”? What reference to Jesus is seen in how “No one seems to be able to walk on water, or quiet wild, swirling winds” of a “Wikileak Sea”?

    In what darkness? WikiLeaks? What is so secret that we fear exposure from “WikiLeaks”?

    Whose voice is the “ever loving rival”?

    I get it that Jesus walked on the water and that He enables us to walk on the water of a troubled sea of life.

    But I don’t get it that no one is able to walk on the water of a WikiLeaks Sea.

    With Jesus what is impossible?

    Why fear WikiLeaks Sea?

    What secret sin are we so afraid to see exposed? What secret sin is already not known to God? Confession will free you and God will forgive you. Don’t worry or be concerned about what men think, because they are already allied with an enemy.

    32 and cloudy.

    Steve

  107. saled says:

    I am a reader who has been silent for a month or two, silent because of the responsibilities in my life. I read the subjects and comments but don’t have the time or focus to solidify and write my thoughts. I thank you all for keeping the site going. My hope in God is greater because the thinking I have done here.

    What has stuck with me from the subjects in the past two or three months is that God is always good. When we look around us and it appears that he has lost control, that is not true. Steve quoted Mart saying “. . . in the darkness we might think we are seeing a ghost, a devil, or worse. But let’s not be surprised if we hear the familiar voice of an ever loving rival saying, “It’s me. Don’t be afraid. Follow me.”

    The darkness this morning might be the news of the 200 plus deaths at a mosque in Egypt. In this darkness I hear his voice, reminding us that he is the one who conquered death, who brings life out of death. All of the violence in the world, whether brought about by a group or individual, is destined for failure. In the darkness here, it looks like the violence, the death, has won. But it hasn’t. Our God brings life out of death.

    Thanks again for your time keeping the discussion going here.

  108. poohpity says:

    Steve, when Jesus walked on the water toward the boat that the disciples were in they imagined it was a ghost or something worse(Matt 14:26 NLT) then Jesus said to them (Matt 14:27-29 NLT) The rival of a ghost, the devil, or worse is the voice of One who loves us forever hence ever-loving, someone that was familiar to the disciples in the boat. The voice that brought them comfort in the raging water. The rival of a storm is peace or still. The rival of hate or malice is love and kindness. The rival of darkness is light. The rival of the devil is Jesus.

  109. poohpity says:

    Usually people in high places like the government or movie stars for example would like those watching to believe they do no wrong, that they are godlike but Wikileaks exposes, although illegally, who they really are by proving they can not walk on water or quite the raging sea. But unlike the exposure of God who offers us a solution in Jesus Christ to the things He exposes they, Wikileaks, just exposes.

  110. jeff1 says:

    Why is it that I never understood what my dad had gotten all his life and that is that it is where I find God in the tragedies of life. It did not surprise him that life was difficult and he never complained while those of us around moaned my dad always seen the bigger picture. He could see that neither protestant or catholic was doing what was right in God’s eyes and in that sense we were bringing calamity on ourselves.
    One side blamed the other and no side was big enough to turn the other cheek.

    When I think back I often blamed him for seeming detached and believed he should be taking our side more but then I never understood God the way he did.
    He was willing to turn the other cheek and did by his words and actions.

    What blinded me that didn’t blind him was my hatred as it was my generation that were caught up in it. I had joined the security forces and was too involved to see as clearly as he seen.

    It takes wisdom to see God and that’s what he had wisdom in abundance. I was wise after the event but my dad was wise during it and I put that down to his obedience to God because I recall my fathers words and he would always say ‘if it pleases God’ so my dad was not loyal to what we called here as the loyalist cause or the republican cause but to the call of God and it showed in his lifetime, a life lived to God’s will and not the desires of his own.

  111. SFDBWV says:

    So good to hear from you Saled. Yes I know there are many who just read and don’t write, it is one of those things that keeps me here.

    I also agree that the world is getting darker and darker. Our cultures show it, the insanities of mass murders all over the globe show it, and our news reports it.

    “As it were in the days of Noah”, our Lord warned us of these days and for me they seem to be the last days.

    On a lighter note I hope that your responsibilities have grown you in the Lord, I know I grow each day and not just weary.

    So far our weather has been good, but there are several long months ahead to deal with.

    I am happy to hear from you Saled, I know time is a commodity that few of us have. I usually get early morning at the computer and a few moments in between things. For now I am done most likely for the day.

    Be happy and blessed, you Saled and all the others here.

    Steve

  112. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you very much for your encouragement about this blog, Sales!!!

    And thinking of a thread that immerges:
    The still small voice of an ever Loving Savior ( I use the Savior, not rival)
    talking to Steve:
    ” Am I not enough? “

  113. foreverblessed says:

    An ouch moment, and I feel the ouch too! Meaning, God says the same to me!

    And beyond that, something else:
    God ( 3 in One) showing Himself vulnerable!!

  114. jeff1 says:

    From Sunday morning reflections, there are always so many beautiful songs and I choose this one.

    Its not easy trying to understand
    How the world can be so cold, stealing the souls of man
    Cloudy skies rain down on all of your dreams
    You wrestle with the fear and doubt
    Sometimes its hard but you gotta believe

    There’s a better place, where our Father waits
    And every tear He’ll wipe away
    The darkness will be gone, the weak shall be strong
    Hold on to your faith

    There will come a day, there will come a day
    Wars are raging, lives are shattered
    innocence is lost, and hopes are shattered
    The old are forgotten, the children are forsaken
    in this world we’re living in
    is there anything sacred?

    There will come a day, there will come a day
    The songs will ring out, down those golden streets
    The voice of earth with the angels will sing
    Every knee will bow, sin will have no trace

    in the glory of His amazing grace
    Every knee will bow, sin will have no trace
    in the glory of His amazing grace
    There will come a day, there will come a day

    Oooh there will come a day
    I know there’s coming a day, coming a day

  115. street says:

    steve said,”At first I thought Mart was referring to Jesus since he quoted Him. But as I read it how is Jesus an “ever loving rival”? What reference to Jesus is seen in how “No one seems to be able to walk on water, or quiet wild, swirling winds” of a “Wikileak Sea”?”

    it seems to me only Jesus can do this. as for rival, self is the rival. when peter took his eyes off Jesus he started to sink. i use to think i could chart my own coarse, but i am coming to understand there is a hand holding the bicycle up so i don’t crash and i am thankful for that hand of mercy and grace. i am also reminded that there were two builders, one builder chose the more difficult way of digging down to the solid Rock. yes we all murmur and complain digging down to the Rock. we also understand it’s not good till it is tested and proved.

    “No one seems to be able to walk on water, or quiet wild, swirling winds” of a “Wikileak Sea”?” seems like Jesus can do this very well. thinking of the uninvited guest at simons dinner, hosted for Jesus. the un invited guest was well spoken of by the guest of honor. the host not so much. we were informed of simon’s thoughts but not the thoughts of the uninvited guest. the uninvited guest found great safety and protection in Jesus presents. as for the uninvited guest actions there is only speculation on our part. Jesus knew her thoughts as well her actions and not only accepted them but recorded them forever. 2 mites comes to mind. John 13:17
    If you know these things, you are blessed if you do them.

  116. street says:

    poo said,”Usually people in high places like the government or movie stars for example would like those watching to believe they do no wrong, that they are godlike but Wikileaks exposes, although illegally, who they really are by proving they can not walk on water or quite the raging sea. ”

    dear poo, if i remember right the “high-places” in israels history were the very thing that God used as an indictment against His people, who broke the covenant. not so high after God dealt with them, He even did the same thing to temple in jerusalem because it was not functioning correctly and had become obsolete. be still my own heart when i consider my own temple and Him Who bids me come. i come by way of the cross. not easy. rest and struggle, joy and sorrow. love and hate. Matthew 5
    Jesus is the Peace maker.

  117. street says:

    saled sometimes i forget that God has taken responsibility for the things that occur on the earth and seems like we have been abandoned.

    Deuteronomy 32:39
    ‘See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me; It is I who put to death and give life. I have wounded and it is I who heal, And there is no one who can deliver from My hand.

    trust and obey, He is SO BIG

  118. poohpity says:

    street the rest of the sentence explains what was meant by people in high places and it is nice to keep things within the sentence as written if not it will lead to something that was not said at all.

  119. Beloved says:

    Hiding-truthtelling-exposed-

    I think fear is what holds us back sometimes, fear of recrimination, fear of disapproval, fear of what lies underneath the idols in our lives that will expose our weakness and our nakedness. What is truth? In a culture that reveres ones individual personal truth there is only one Truth that makes a difference for eternity, Jesus.

  120. street says:

    poo my response was for what came to my mind, that was generated by seeing the word “high places.” kinda leaped off the page at me. just creeps me out. not what you said, but things morphed into something different, the world has not changed yet. a tangent if you will. hey thanks for not crucifying me. i do understand i must guard my heart, but not at the expense of others.

    this brings me back to beloved thoughts about approval or disapproval. this fear is the fear of the death of pride. we each have to live by the faith we have be given. we sometimes forget this and the need to give grace. thinking of augustine, i think, fighting the beast of vindication. wisdom is vindicated by her children.

  121. Beloved says:

    Street thanks again, “fear of the death of pride”. Bingo. Now I can sleep, Lord willing. Wrapping up in a blanket of grace.

  122. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All
    Pray all is well in your lives today and forever… I read through the posts, and I can definitely relate, Steve and Saled… Oftentimes, I read the comments, but I don’t comment on the topic or the comments of others… or I share something… a thought or something that happened in my personal life that’s totally off topic. So, one of my goals, moving forward, is to share more thoughts about the blog topic… Steve, you also shared something (that you’ve shared before) that I plan on practicing… You said you ask God for inspiration or revelation in regards to what you’ll share on any given topic… I think that’s the greatest way to get good insight on Mart’s blog topics… Ok, Gonna go to sleep now…

    57 degrees in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,
    Regina

  123. poohpity says:

    street, much wisdom when you said, ” i do understand i must guard my heart, but not at the expense of others.” It seems sometimes in a need to protect self we tear another apart by name calling or false accusations. It is OK not to know something or to misunderstand but how we respond to others seems to be the most important part.

  124. poohpity says:

    John 13:34 or Treat others as you want to be treated not how they treat you.

  125. poohpity says:

    If we lived in fear of something like Wikileaks happening exposing our real self but because of who we are in Christ it may ruin a career but it does not ruin our standing with God because of Jesus actually it would seem a bit more freeing not having to keep secrets, or wear masks anymore.

  126. poohpity says:

    “For the word of God is alive and powerful. It is sharper than the sharpest two-edged sword, cutting between soul and spirit, between joint and marrow. It exposes our innermost thoughts and desires. 13 Nothing in all creation is hidden from God. Everything is naked and exposed before his eyes, and he is the one to whom we are accountable.

    So then, since we have a great High Priest who has entered heaven, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold firmly to what we believe. 15 This High Priest of ours understands our weaknesses, for he faced all of the same testings we do, yet he did not sin. 16 So let us come boldly to the throne of our gracious God. There we will receive his mercy, and we will find grace to help us when we need it most.” Hebrews 4:12-16 NLT

  127. Beloved says:

    “Wisdom is vindicated by her children”. On the WikiLeaks sea it’s sink or swim, the floaters just may be the children of wisdom. Those unmoved by the tossing waves of cynicism, greed, and anger.

  128. poohpity says:

    “The Principle of Closeness by Bill Crowder; The closer I am to Christ in my walk with Him the more conscience I am of “my” failings and shortcomings, the further away I am the more conscience of the failings and shortcomings I find in others.”

  129. jeff1 says:

    Be still, my soul: the Lord is on thy side.
    With patience bear the cross of grief or pain.
    Leave to thy God to order and provide;
    In every change, He faithful will remain.
    Be still, my soul: thy best, thy heavenly Friend
    Through thorny ways leads to a joyful end.

    Be still, my soul: thy God doth undertake
    To guide the future, as He has the past.
    Thy hope, thy confidence let nothing shake;
    All now mysterious shall be bright at last.
    Be still, my soul: the waves and winds still know
    His voice Who ruled them while He dwelt below.

    Be still, my soul: the hour is hastening on
    When we shall be forever with the Lord
    When disappointment, grief and fear are gone,
    Sorrows forgot, love’s purest joys restored.
    Be still, my soul: when change and tears are past
    All safe and blessed we shall meet at last.

  130. jeff1 says:

    I have just watched Harry and Meghan announce their engagement and they looked so happy and relaxed and look forward to the Royal wedding the date is not announced but the speculation is that it shall be at Windsor.

  131. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, Jeff, congratulations! I am very happy for you!
    The wedding of his brother, in church, was a great witness of the Christian religion to the whole world! I remember one blogcontributor from Cornwall at the time who was thrilled about the service.
    Your queen, and the same with our king, just have a ceremonial function, but in the case of a wedding in a church, good example! Our king William and queen Maxima are believers, and were also married before God, in full view on TV.
    I really liked it!

  132. jeff1 says:

    Yes, there is a big increase in civil ceremonies here among the younger generation so it is as you say a good example especially since they are the younger generation of Royals.

  133. street says:

    saled said,” All of the violence in the world, whether brought about by a group or individual, is destined for failure. In the darkness here, it looks like the violence, the death, has won. But it hasn’t.”

    yes it is destined for failure and true it’s not over yet. thinking of God’s patience that leads some to repentance. yet the violence and injustice led to God’s Judgment to the cities and peoples that practice this,of which we were called out of. i am reminded when Jesus comes back it is for Salvation for the elect and judgment for the world. a great hope and much work to accomplish …Ephesians 2:10
    For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

    like the picture mart. reminded me of the saying, the day i saw my Father run.
    walk run sore in Christ and the Word.

  134. street says:

    Today, on Wikileak Sea, no one seems to be able to walk on water, or quiet wild, swirling winds. In the darkness, we might think we’re seeing a ghost, a devil or worse.

    this brings to mind a pet peeve of mine. why did the Lord leave us in human flesh and a wilderness? He didn’t. He sent His Son to Rescue mankind. gave us new hearts and new Spirit and goal. yes we look like we are up-side-down. the irony of calling out a Kingdom, again, in satan’s back yard. He doing it again. less complaining and murmuring would be great! i think. we can go to the tent of meeting anytime. He is Faithful!

  135. Regina says:

    I had never heard of Wikileaks Sea until Mart wrote the term in his intro comment… I may have tried to look it up, but was distracted by Wikipedia… Wondering if it’s called that because it provides a “sea” of personal information about someone, corporations, businesses, etc? My thought for now.

    61 degrees under a moon lit sky…

    Love to all,
    Regina

  136. Regina says:

    ***Wikileak Sea

  137. SFDBWV says:

    Tis the season once again that “Ancestor.com” puts on their TV show called “Long Lost Family”. I would recommend it to everyone who can see it.

    It is about adopted people looking for their biological families or even visa versa the families looking for an adopted member from years past.

    The picture Mart has provided with this subject embodies the concept completely, of reuniting lost family.

    The show has been on for a few years now and only runs for a while before going into seclusion only to be seen occasionally on reruns.

    It is an emotionally charged program as the raw emotions are real and genuine and I guarantee unless you are a stone wall you too will weep.

    Almost without exception each adult who was adopted out as a baby thanks their biological mother for doing so and giving them the gift of life.

    On some occasions the father has no idea that he was a father at all and on one episode this past week a gay man was united with a daughter he never knew existed.

    The energy between this gentle man and his daughter was not wasted on me. Healing comes when the truth is exposed. No more hidden secrets.

    Regina, WikiLeaks is a well-known organization that exposes secret information that governments think are secure. Mart has used it in conjunction with being able to walk on the sea as Jesus and Peter did, until peter took his eyes off of Jesus and concerned himself the sea. Meaning there are secret things that when exposed the person exposed must then be able to endure the outing of their secret and metaphorically “walk on water” or the sea of troubles that the secret has hidden.

    I hope that I have accurately explained this for you.

    24 degrees and clear. Going to the dentist today and have a wisdom tooth removed. Yes at 70 I still have most all of my teeth. Not good hygiene, just good breeding.

    Steve

  138. poohpity says:

    I saw the topic as how One was treated that was so full of truth that He was crucified for even the very things we try to keep secret from people around us to look better than we really are. The very One who exposes our true heart and died for what is contained in it, not for how we present ourselves to the world around us but for the very hard truth about who we really are. It is only when we come to terms with our true nature that we can fully appreciate the grace we were shown on the Cross.

    Loved by the One who can calm the wind and sea with just His words, who exposed or revealed Himself in the person of Jesus Christ so that we can do what He wanted from the beginning to have a relationship with us and so we would follow Him above any other. The children returning to the open arms of our caring, faithful, loving Father.

    I do not know how accurate that is but that is how I perceive and understand it.

    The comparison to Wikileaks seems are the reasons behind exposing the truth whether it is done for greed or acclaim or to realize we do not have anything to hide from the only One who it really matters in hiding but nothing is hidden from Him. He knows it all and yet gave all He could give so that we could be free from hiding and from secrets because after all they are actually just lies and deception, so now we can be real and honest. The chains are broken and we have been set free, no more pretending to be something we are not.

  139. poohpity says:

    I actually do not know the motivation of Julian Assange for bringing to light those things hidden but I would like to think it is because at first he wanted to show us that those who have such power over the people are often not to be trusted like people tend to trust them.

  140. poohpity says:

    Some people would like to classify Assange as a traitor and some think of him as a hero. A hero he is not to me no man can win that title except for those who given up their lives for another and we do have modern day heroes but I do not know if he fits the traitor label either. I do however find more truth revealed by him than from the media. Assange has given up his freedom and that of his family because of things he has done, so I just look at him as another sinner in need of God’s grace. I know he can not walk on water or quite the raging seas only the One who created those things can command them to do what He wants them to do.

  141. street says:

    The very One who exposes our true heart and died for what is contained in it, not for how we present ourselves to the world around us but for the very hard truth about who we really are. It is only when we come to terms with our true nature that we can fully appreciate the grace we were shown on the Cross.

    dying for love. revealing true love. Jesus could say your sins are forgiven, and He knew why He could say that. i live because He gave me life, i believe because He said so. i love because i choose to. i fail/ i repent. His love never fails. to be Worshiped in Spirit and Truth.

  142. jeff1 says:

    As my mum would say one person’s meat is another person’s poison and that is such a true saying. Life is not black and white even though we to often see it that way but the truth is there are 50 shades of grey and I’m not talking the film. It is not easy to walk another’s shoes which is why it is easiest to walk in my own because as I have discovered I know my many weaknesses by now and also that God loves me unconditionally which in a hard world like this one is such a blessing to know.

    If I could be you, if you could be me
    For just tone hour
    If we could find a way to get inside
    Each other’s mind

    If you could see you through my eyes
    Instead of your ego
    I believe you’d be, I believe you’d be surprised to see
    That you’ve been blind

    Walk a mile in my shoes
    Walk a mile in my shoes
    Yeah, before you abuse, criticize and accuse
    Walk a mile in my shoes

    Now there are people in reservations
    And out in the ghetto
    And, brother, there, but for the grace of God
    Go you and I

    If I only had the wings
    Of a little angel
    Don’t you know I’d fly to the top of a mountain
    And then I’d cry, cry, cry?

    Walk a mile in my shoes
    Walk a mile in my shoes
    Yeah, before you abuse, criticize and accuse
    Walk a mile in my shoes

    Walk a mile in my shoes
    Walk a mile in my shoes
    Yeah, before you abuse, criticize and accuse
    Walk a mile in my shoes

  143. street says:

    is it true to chose to love is to chose to die? to give up self or pride. we are so different from God. new Spirit, new life, new creation, born again. a do over, but unlike the first rebellion. grace and mercy in a Savior and nowhere else? maybe His Children? Romans 8:28 seems like Dad is up for anything and everything.

  144. street says:

    25
    “Did you bring me sacrifices and offerings
    forty years in the wilderness, people of Israel?
    26
    You have lifted up the shrine of your king,
    the pedestal of your idols,
    the star of your god—
    which you made for yourselves.
    27
    Therefore I will send you into exile beyond Damascus,”
    says the Lord, whose name is God Almighty.

    i think damascus is in ruins now. thank you, Lord, for maintaining a remnant and your grace and mercy.

  145. jeff1 says:

    I was brought up to trust those in power because I believed that God had put them there to begin with but God gives us free will so whether that person is obeying God’s standards or their own is another matter.

    I have learned that the greater the power the greater also the temptations so its easy for me to judge when truthfully I know very little of what I am talking about. As my son so often says to me when I complain about politicians and he points out how do you please people when they all believe they have an entitlement.

    Naked I come to this world and other than a shroud naked I leave it trusting God has forgiven me my waywardness in believing I have an entitlement. The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the Lord.

    My dad was right in knowing that it was my expectations that was wrong!

  146. SFDBWV says:

    Still centering on Mart’s “WikiLeak Sea”. I recognize that today there is no one who can walk on its surface as reported that Jesus walked on the surface of the sea. Equally I can recognize the reference to Jesus calming the wind. Also I see the reference to Jesus being mistaken perhaps as a ghost, but a “devil or worse”?

    My first thought is that Jesu clearly told Peter that he too could walk on the surface of the sea, all he needed was faith.

    My second though is that why isn’t there anyone today that can emulate the miracles of Jesus? He said we could do these things and more, all we needed was faith.

    Ghost’s; people in the time of Jesus believed in them and people today do as well. Yet mention perhaps thinking of either seeing one or being visited by one and see the corrective action you receive from the “Christian” community.

    I can tell plenty of “ghost” stories as well as stories of strange and unexplained experiences, but are they what they seem to be or are they “devils or worse” as Mart refers to?

    No matter what the problem of having secrets exposed is larger than the Son of God. We all should easily be able to walk on its “sea”.

    We all should be able to tell the difference between “a devil, a ghost, or worse” and Jesus of Nazareth as that is the work of the Holy Spirit to give us discernment.

    We should all know the difference between the voice of confusion against the voice of our Shepard, but always be careful whose voice you ‘follow”.

    Put negative contentious strife in its place, behind you, just where it belongs. Out of sight and out of mind.

    The dentist didn’t pull my tooth yesterday, he filled a cavity and Matt and I are going back again today for cleanings. 45 degrees and clear.

    Steve

  147. Beloved says:

    So many voices in the world, but only one that calls out from beyond the grave “I died so that you might live”. My savior!

  148. poohpity says:

    I was thinking what if people did not expose the truth? How many criminal cases are solved when people come telling what they saw, I know the criminal would like them to keep that secret. Or we blindly follow someone only to find they have lead us down a rose-colored path but it was meant to bring us into destruction. This thing today about all the sexual harassment being uncovered nothing would ever get done to protect the victims if everyone remained silent about their experiences. If no one said anything we would not know our tax dollars were used to buy people’s silence and pay off the crimes rather than the people who did them paying for them their selves.

    I for one would rather know the truth and deal with it as it comes rather than being lead down a misleading path only to find out the truth at a later time and feeling like an idiot for giving someone my trust when they did not deserve it. Trust is of great value. It is only knowing the truth that can one recognize it much like the people who are able to recognize fake money. They do not study the fake money they examine in detail the real thing to be able to tell the differences.

  149. poohpity says:

    If deception were easy to spot then it would not be called deception. As explained over and over in scripture the devil can come dressed as an angel of light and may be believed but his path is to guide people away from God to embrace the world and the flesh. Magicians are able to deceive people into to believing that they can perform miracles but they are only illusions meant to deceive the senses. The forces of darkness spend all their time trying to lead people away from the truth.

  150. jeff1 says:

    I agree deception is not easy to spot and that is why I must be focused on Christ and when I am not I loose my way.

    Discipleship requires obedience which also requires a mind which is stable otherwise it will loose focus.

    I was easy led but my dad was not and it is weakness of the mind that left me vulnerable.

    I cannot trust in my own understanding if my head is all over the place and God will not be expecting me to as He needs followers who can discern and He will choose those who stay focused on Him and not those who have a tendency to wander from His safe keeping.

    While it is true the forces of darkness try to lead people away from the truth then who is it that has overcome the forces of darkness!

  151. street says:

    thinking of the blessing of obedience.

    Joshua 1:8
    This book of the law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it; for then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have success.

    James 1:25 But one who looks intently at the perfect law, the law of liberty, and abides by it, not having become a forgetful hearer but an effectual doer, this man will be blessed in what he does.

    the blessing of knowing God and obeying.

    John 1:18
    No one has seen God at any time; the only begotten God who is in the bosom of the Father, He has explained Him.

    John 14:
    5 Thomas *said to Him, “Lord, we do not know where You are going, how do we know the way?” 6 Jesus *said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father but through Me.

    7 If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”

  152. street says:

    the righteous shall live by faith.

    not by circumstance.

    faith will take your breath away when you see it in action.

    thinking job abraham david john the baptist Jesus………..and so many more.

    yes, even Jesus lived by faith, crediting His righteousness to those who trust Him. He knows His own and they come to Him, they will not listen to another.

    coming to the tent of meeting is better than walking on WikiLeak Sea.

  153. Beloved says:

    For from him and through him and to him are all things. To him be glory forever. Amen.
    Romans 11:36 ESV

  154. jeff1 says:

    The blessing of obedience is righteousness because when my country was at war and I was taking the loyalist side and Catholic’s were taking the republican side my dad was on God’s side.

    I’m satisfied with just a cottage below
    A little silver and a little gold
    But in that city where the ransomed will shine
    I want a gold one that’s silver lined

    I’ve got a mansion just over the hilltop
    In that bright land where we will never grow old
    And some day yonder we will never more wander
    But walk on streets that are purest gold

    Don’t think me poor or deserted or lonely
    I’m not discouraged I’m heaven bound
    I’m but a pilgrim in search of the city
    I want a mansion, a harp and a crown

    I’ve got a mansion over the hilltop
    In that bright land where we will never grow old
    And some day yonder we will never more wander
    But walk on streets that are purest gold

  155. poohpity says:

    Jesus does not even belong in the same list with Job, Abraham, David or John the Baptist because He was God incarnate. He was righteous because of who He is and the others were righteous because of who they believed in because of their faith which is also a gift from God.(Eph 2:8; Gal 3:11)

    The perfect law of grace is that if we do not act it out shows we do not believe in what was done for us. Not allowing the world to corrupt the way we think and act which are often contrary to the way God would have us live by loving Him, ourselves and others which also can not be done in and of ourselves but with the help of the Holy Spirit.

  156. street says:

    poo it is my understanding that Jesus took on flesh and blood so that we could identify with Him. His flesh and blood also became our atonement. to identify with Him in taking up our cross. now He lives! He is not ashamed to call them friends son and brothers. i do understand the list has caused trouble, but thinking they are righteous like Jesus because of their faith in God. i do understand the incarnation is very difficult to understand just like the Holy Spirit living in humans. faith and hope is our bread from heaven. secured by the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. learning to love

  157. poohpity says:

    street, Yes Jesus was the atonement for our sins but He came to reveal what God is like to us. It is not difficult to understand the incarnation if one has faith in what Jesus taught that Jesus and God are One, if you have seen Jesus then one has seen the Father. Understanding the identity of Jesus is part of being saved(John 1:1, 8:58; Col 1:15; Romans 10:9) I know you say all kinds of little bits and pieces of thoughts but none are put together to form the whole but there is a basic foundation to our Christian beliefs and it is about the identity of Jesus, what He came for and what He accomplished. No one is righteous like Jesus, no one compares to Jesus because He is God. Yes I guess it may be hard to understand the Trinity but by faith we do and it is imperative to our faith. Otherwise who is it we believe in?

    There also seems to be a misunderstanding about what it means to take up our cross and follow Him. Jesus is the bread from Heaven not faith and hope. Read John 6:41,51 and all that Jesus taught about Himself. I know you are just learning and it is exciting to see that but there are basics we have to know to put all the pieces together but if we do not have those basics then none of the pieces will fit.

  158. poohpity says:

    John 8:19, 12:45, 14:9; 1 John 5:20

  159. street says:

    No one is righteous like Jesus, no one compares to Jesus because He is God. Yes I guess it may be hard to understand the Trinity but by faith we do and it is imperative to our faith. Otherwise who is it we believe in?

    if no one is righteous like Jesus, then how can they be righteous? how is righteousness accredited to them? how can God call job righteous before anything ever happen? i don’t believe there are more than one righteousness. i have to admit i don’t feel righteous all the time, but i do know i am to walk by the Spirit, not anything else.

    i don’t think trinity and incarnation are the same thing. incarnation, God in Human Flesh. virgin birth.

    Jesus is the bread from Heaven not faith and hope.
    my thoughts are faith and hope is in Jesus, bread from heaven. the object of our faith and hope. these come from understanding and trusting the Scriptures. faith hearing Word…..

    i have to admit poo many thoughts, pieces, ideas, just need a Savior and time with Him.
    Revelation 3:20
    Behold, I stand at the door and knock; if anyone hears My voice and opens the door, I will come in to him and will dine with him, and he with Me.
    John 14:23
    Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.

  160. street says:

    incarnation, God in Human Flesh. virgin birth.

    Emanuel, God with us by the blood of Christ.

    thinking of david and Matthew 5

  161. poohpity says:

    Those who were accredited with being righteous were those who lived by faith in God like Abraham, Noah, Moses, David, etc. Jesus did not need faith in God because he was God in the person of Jesus Christ. Romans 1:17; 2 Cor 5:20-21; 1 Cor 1:30

    Emanuel, God with us, was because the Spirit of God came upon the Virgin Mary, she conceived and gave birth to God embodied in human flesh(incarnate) fully God and fully man. The Trinity explains the concept of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit, three in One since there is only One God presented to us in three manifestations, each with a unique purpose but all three represent the unity of God.

    Thinking that if one reads the Gospels Jesus spent all His time trying to explain who He is so that people would believe in Him which seems also to be the reason that we have the OT which teaches us about who God is and people’s experiences with Him so that we might know Him and come to believe. So we will not idolize people but will put God first in our lives because that is where He deserves to be and if we believe then it is counting to us as righteousness. Read Romans 4

  162. street says:

    No one is righteous like Jesus,
    i have heard that one of the reasons Jesus came in the flesh is keep all the law and the prophets, all of it. as a jewish son was suppose to do at every point. he did this. now, not only this, He accepted the Commission of John to be the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. now we understand the shed blood of Christ washes away our sin. also Jesus’s perfect life, time on earth, is credited to the believer, made Righteous. i think they call it double imputation. just as one can be imputed as guilty even if they are innocent of a charge, so then a guilty party can be made righteous by the blood and life of Christ. it is God’s court that makes this distinction, a righteous and just court. some my say this is unfair! are they thinking they are righteous and there works were a waste of time? none are righteous, some made righteous. then again Who are they arguing with? sin really is strange, and truth, faithfulness and love of God, becomes much more desirable.

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