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The Rhymes of Life

Mark Twain is one of those attributed with the quote that “Although history doesn’t repeat itself, it often rhymes.”

The truth goes deeper than words or events.

When the Word of God was tested by Satan in the wilderness(Matthew 4:4) (Deuteronomy 8:3), the last Adam was challenged to do for himself what the first Adam was urged to do for themselves in a Garden Paradise.

Might be one reason our own lives can seem so empty no matter how full and so full no matter how empty. When do we feel more alive or blessed than in those moments when we are allowed to see that we really don’t live by what we can do for ourselves or for one another— but by every word of provision spoken into our lives—on the breath of our God?


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  1. poohpity says:

    Thank you Mart for the reminder. :-)

  2. poohpity says:

    When I remember what was done for me I do feel blessed, alive and very, very grateful. What a way to start the morning, in thanksgiving.

  3. poohpity says:

    Lamentations 3:22-23

  4. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Mart…

    Mark Twain (Samuel Clemons) wrote wonderful stories and had many quotes that still resonate with us. He observed life commented on it and wrote about it.

    It is written that man does not live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceeds out of His mouth.

    The thing here is that man does not live by bread alone, but he does also live by bread along with the Word of God.

    We live for Him and in honor to Him.

    Blessings to all today.

    Steve

  5. jeff1 says:

    Breathe on me, breath of God:
    fill me with life anew,
    that I may love as you have loved
    and do as you would do.

    Breathe on me, breath of God,
    until my heart is pure,
    until my will is one with yours
    to do and to endure.

    Breathe on me, breath of God;
    fulfil my heart’s desire,
    until this earthly part of me
    glows with your heavenly fire.

    Breathe on me, breath of God;
    so shall I never die,
    but live with you the perfect life
    of your eternity.

  6. remarutho says:

    Hello Mart & Friends —

    Thanks for the word from Samuel Clemens, Mart. Scripture presents, it seems to me, the very character of our God in all its narratives. Mark Twain was a great story teller too, like the writers of the Bible.

    Am reading James Bryan Smith’s “The Magnificent Story.” He claims that we need to connect our own story to the stories of the Old and New Testaments. In this way, we live into the Life of God where we find “beauty, goodness and truth.”

    Joy all day,
    Maru

    4C/39F here and raining here.

  7. foreverblessed says:

    The last Adam was challenged to do for himself what the first Adam was urged to do for themselves in a Garden Paradise.
    the first Adam had to say to Satan: It is a lie!
    The last Adam told Satan: It is a lie, and Jesus showed a bible verse to prove that it was a lie.

    Then Mart asks us:
    “When do we feel more alive or blessed than in those moments when we are allowed to see that we really don’t live by what we can do for ourselves or for one another— but by every word of provision spoken into our lives—on the breath of our God?”

    What can we do for ourselves?
    Throwing out lies about ourselves and about others!

    My question is, if we believe lies, do we then not listen to Satan, the father of lies?

    (Pooh I have a message for you in the former topic)

  8. SFDBWV says:

    Good day to all. The main thrust of BTA is to discuss Mart’s topics, which are often questions looking for answers.

    Most always the answers are very different, but hopefully through courteous and polite conversation we can both seek and share answers to some obvious and difficult thoughts.

    Where Mart’s states “that we really don’t live by what we can do for ourselves or for one another-“, right away what comes to my mind is that we are held accountable for just that, and commanded to love one another.

    What we do is action. As Mart continues to say, “but by every word of provision, spoken into our lives- on the breath of our God.”

    God breathed life into man.
    God provides for man.

    God’s Word breathes life into our lives in that we are made an image of God, a shadow of God and as far as I am concerned He breathes into us the Word so that He is written in our hearts He is there leading, directing, recognizing, warning and developing us to be that image He wants us to be of Him.

    Mere words from us isn’t going to do it alone.

    Jesus hurt Peter’s feeling when He kept repeating for Peter to feed the flock. Peter had to act on Jesus’ request, not just talk about it.

    Steve

  9. poohpity says:

    The Pharisee in this next text was confident in the things that he could do for himself while the tax collector was confident in God.

    Then Jesus told this story to some who had great confidence in their own righteousness and scorned everyone else: “Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a despised tax collector. The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer: ‘I thank you, God, that I am not like other people—cheaters, sinners, adulterers. I’m certainly not like that tax collector! I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.’

    “But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, ‘O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’ I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.” Luke 18:9-14 NLT

  10. poohpity says:

    Steve, I think by Jesus asking Peter three times was not to hurt Peter but to restore him into fellowship. To take the hurt away that Peter felt when he denied Jesus. Jesus DID NOT say, say your sorry three times Peter and rub it in but showed him grace to continue on his mission to share the Gospel which is what seems to be what feeding Jesus’ sheep means.

  11. poohpity says:

    After Jesus pulled the disciples out of their old way of living after the Cross they went back to what they did before, returning to the old. But Jesus just told them they had to wait until they had His power, the power of the Holy Spirit before they could go forward into the new life. No longer depending on themselves but on God.

  12. Beloved says:

    The rhymes of life as made by the author of life! Beautiful and wonderful!

  13. poohpity says:

    This was when Peter was hurt to the core of his being Luke 22:61-62 NLT “At that moment the Lord turned and looked at Peter. Suddenly, the Lord’s words flashed through Peter’s mind: “Before the rooster crows tomorrow morning, you will deny three times that you even know me.” And Peter left the courtyard, weeping bitterly.” I bet it made him more than happy and relieved to tell Jesus that he did in fact love Him even though he messed up. I think it is wonderful that Jesus did not shame or lay guilt on him but showed him grace.

  14. narrowpathseeker says:

    Good Evening Friends.. I have read this topic over 3 times now…I don’t really understand Mark Twain’s quote about history and rhymes. I do not really truly understand living by EVERY word of God. I guess, as I wrote the other day, that is why I cling to the parable of the tax collector vs the Pharisee, who hung his head and said, “Have mercy on me a sinner”. Unfortunately, some days I behave like the Pharisee, but am quickly Reminded and I resume my tax collector position of hanging my head and asking for mercy.

    I do not think living by EVERY word of God is as simple as it sounds. I have several cook books and the recipes are divided into segments of meals, desserts, and candy with complete detailed instructions for making each. The bible gives us much instruction for many different situations, but it just doesn’t seem that clear to me to be sure to know what exactly to do except to PRAY about everything.. That narrow path seems to get more narrow all the time or maybe the wide road is just getting wider. Either way, I believe strongly that PRAYER is our greatest weapon against the dark spirits that roam seeking to devour us. Moreover there is plenty to pray about…there is more suffering going on everywhere than I have ever seen all at once on the news. Lord have mercy. PLEASE everyone …please pray and thank Him too for our countless blessings.

  15. jeff1 says:

    I don’t understand it either Narrow but I do see history repeating itself as my country is a great example of it. There is something badly wrong with us because we cannot leave the past in the past and then we wonder why we cannot move forward when it is obvious that as Sir Winston Churchill said that if we don’t learn from our history then we are doomed to repeat it.

    I do not want to see the next generation making the bad choices we made but when we have leaders whose example is to behave like children in a playground then it is not much of an example for a younger generation coming up so I pray that with God’s help they will have the wisdom to move forward without the animosity that has held this country in peril so that the future will continue to get brighter and not fall back into the same old, same old which we are all so very tired of.

    I have stopped watching the news and only listen to very local news because it is so depressing and I need to focus on what lifts my mind so I focus on what does that for me rather than focusing on matters that I cannot do anything about that leaves me exhausted and exasperated.

  16. SFDBWV says:

    For Pearl and Viv’s sake I will open this morning with an explanation as I perceive it.

    Mark Twain was saying that while history can’t exactly repeat itself it looks and sounds very familiar, it rhymes.

    One of the dangers of reading any statement or short subject matter is that we/I often see what isn’t written, but is there between the lines and even perhaps why it was stated or said.

    In this case and in my opinion only, while Mart isn’t wanting to take sides on any disputes between we who comment. The last thread of comments was not lost on him.

    Ergo, history repeats itself or at least sounds very familiar.

    Where we start off perhaps discussing a particular topic or subject it soon gets lost in the same disgruntled clash between pooh and everyone else.

    This subject written tries then to segue into something more aligned with our Christian faith.

    In this case as in others, Mart I am sure hopes that we can develop a thread of conversation that may speak more closely to Jesus and our walk with Him rather than to the ugliness that strife develops without his intervention.

    I admit reading this subject it seemed to not have a center to focus on, or perhaps said it was a little confusing.

    However if we take the idea that when God is center in our lives we have joy if maybe only momentary. While when we center on other things it produces an unsatisfied emptiness.

    At least that may be how I condense the thoughts of Mart’s topic.

    Well whereas I am sure I have opened up the same sore I at least have tried to explain things as I see it whether correct or not.

    26 degrees under a misty moon.

    Steve

  17. foreverblessed says:

    Good morning everyone.

    The bible verse: “Be still and know that I am God”

    that is the verse that is now ringing in my ears.

    So I will be still.

    But before I am still, I want to thank each one of you personally.
    (Thank you Steve for your input now, this morning about the struggle we have here, that is why I write this epistle part 1)

    And before I say thank you, I want to say, I love all of you dearly. In the last 9 years I was here, I have learned to appreciate you all, it is sometimes hard to remember everyone’s personal story. It is easier now, with less people.

    First of all I want to thank Mart, for being the host, I came here because I liked the way Mart talked: always seeking for the nuance try to make us look from a different angle. But always pointing to Jesus, how He lived His life here on earth.

    I dearly love you for who you are, for being always meek, and soft, and gentle.

    Thanks Mart, I will be concentrating the next couple of weeks on the Gospels, study jesus life on earth.

    I want to thank steve, I really have grown to love you. The example of self-sacrificing service, in your home, with such a terrible accident, and the long aftermath. In your community. I had to get passed your stories over and over again about Adam and Eve. But now I do cherish them. It show now that you were right, even this topic of Mart, in the garde of Eve, there Adam did not send away the lie. But accepted it, and now all of us were captured, and taken as prisoner to the father of lies. And the battle that goes in our minds, and that we still allow even when we are christians. It all started there. When do we take responsibility, adn throw out these lies and instead are blessing, adn praying for the other (like Narrow points out: PRAY and BLESS)

    That you take the time and write an essay, many mornings. After your heavy chores. May God bless you, and yours. I have to tell you one thing, when I prayed for healing of my ears, years ago, there was something that entered my mind: Laying on the altar of yourself, Rom 12:1 “to offer your bodies as living sacrifices”. To ask my plea for healing on the altar, and say: God you do with it what you want, I rahter have that you heal Matt. (I know that this sounds difficult, but God is teaching us the vicarious love, as we follow Jesus, who suffered for us in our stead. You might say: Jesus’s suffering is enough, but the bible also said, as Jesus suffers, so we suffer, so we may share in His glory) Keep up the good work Steve! And Matt and Glenna! Tell Glenna my battle with migraine is over. And so is my battle with the menopause. They might be connected. I now drink two cups of coffee in the morning, and it does me good. Remember that God told me not to drink coffee, and that I was disciplined by doing that?

    I thank Mtman for having welcomed me when I first arrived, that was May 2009. He talked to me personally, and that really helped me to stay. It taught me to welcome new persons, which happened often in those years. It is not a point anymore, no new bloggers have joined for years now. Jeff was the last one to join. I really enjoyed it when you came back here. It gavae a different energy to the blog. I am sad, you left again.

    Jeff, I dearly love you, and thank you for your support and encouragement towards me. That you defended me, in teh Genesis thing, even if you did not understand.

    I so admire your transparancy, for telling of your struggle, it gave an insight into people with mental problems, thank you so much for sharing that. It made me pray more for you. Please do not compare yourself with people who have stable minds, they would have had the same trouble if their minds turned unstable like yours. God knows Jeff, but I know that you know that. I love you dearly. It is because of encouraging you that I want to stay, but I know there is enough encouragement here for you! Isaw a programm on Januari 5, about Derry, you have talked about it too, the hostile envirement, the suspiciousness, the distrust. The evil thoughts people have about each other.

    Hold on to the faith, and I know that you will.

    I thank Gary for having been here. Even when his comments were abrasive, and ehhh wearing me out for being warned for a thing I do not want to at all. I still love hem dearly. For his zeal, for his love for the Truth of God, but I pray that God will send him a Priscilla and Aquil.

    I want to thank Bob in Cornwall. I dearly dearly love him. He shared his struggle of being gay, and that enlarged my mind: God told him, when he wasbeing born again, do not worry about being gay, We (God and Bob) will work that our later.

    I find that such a great insight! God who is patient with us, and we should be patient with one another.
    Some issues will be dealt with later. We keep blessing and praying for each other.

    I will go on with my epistle some other time today or tomorrow, I have chores to do now (Music bands, piano study). Each and everyone I want to thank!

  18. jeff1 says:

    Thank you Steve for explaining and I agree with you and would like to add that it has not escaped my notice that it is those of us with mental struggles that seem to get caught up in going off the subject and getting caught up in what takes us of Jesus but having said that I have grown from you and Mart’s and others who do not get caught up in it.

    You do what my dad did which to me is what righteousness should look like in that you stay clear of that which takes you away from His light and do not allow yourself to get caught up in the darkness.

    As Forever as mentioned there is discipline in not allowing thoughts to get hold of you and that is where the battle is fought and either lost or win in the mind.

    I can talk on this because I had a dad who was as stable as it gets and a mum who was as unstable as it gets and perhaps why I seem to walk the line between the two as I can be either depending on whether I am having a good day or a bad day.

    Forever, I have often wondered why in talking with people whom I don’t really know I have made a connection that makes me feel warm and secure while with others whether I know them or not they make me want to head for the hills and you are among the first.

    It does sound that your intention is to leave the blog and if that is so I will be very sorry to hear that but also understand that if you know God is pulling at your heart strings then it may be time to move on in order to grow as is His will for you.

    Your posts are enlightening and I have learned so much from them and I think it is because you post them from a heart that already knows God and you will do great things for Him knowing Him as you do.

    Pooh, exasperates me but that’s because I don’t understand why she keeps going over the same verses of scripture about the Pharisee’s when we all know it so well.

    Sadly, that does not stop me from behaving like a Pharisee when my guard is down but God is the best judge I find as I have a friend whose knowledge of the bible boggles my mind and she loves to challenge the Jehovah’s witnesses who come to her door as they go away amazed of her knowledge but this is the same woman who said to me that Jesus would not forgive the Jews for their part in crucifying Christ and so when it comes to forgiveness it’s best left in His hands and no one else’s.

    Just want to say that it is people like yourself who help me to hold on to my faith as you have a way with words in sharing all that is beautiful about it. Thank you for your understanding, kindness and encouragement that makes my walk of faith worthwhile.

  19. poohpity says:

    It seems the moral of the story may be that human beings try to do things in our own lives and in the lives of others that only God can actually do yet the rhyme has been not to trust Him to do so because we think we can do it better.

    Although it seems history does not actually repeat itself because the same people in history to not come back and do the same things over and over again but their actions denote a rhyme that humans often fall prey to, the desire to be God.

    Satan can use the same weapons over and over again so that we think we can play God like he tempted the first Adam to do but when Jesus(the Word of God) was tempted in the wilderness to display His mighty power to save Himself, He chose not to, it was not the time to play God.

  20. poohpity says:

    In other words put more simply a broken pot thinking it can fix itself, then trying to tell other broken pots how broken they are and trying to fix them rather than putting all the broken pots in the hands of the Master Potter and the wonderful work He does in peoples lives.

  21. jeff1 says:

    I don’t believe that a person who truly knows God does play God and the reason I say that is that while my dad did not hold any bitterness towards his enemies he would not have seen it as his place to forgive them as that to him would have meant he was playing God.

    As a follower my dad seen that it was himself he had to keep right with God and to do that he was stricter on himself than others and why my mother would say of him your father has too high expectations of himself and others and so God used my mum to humble my dad so that he remained humble in his walk with Him.

    My dad did what God expected of him and God did the rest but my dad was obedient in doing his part which was him knowing God while all those around him were wandering in darkness.

    The reward for knowing God through discipline is that I walk in His truths and not the truths of the religion or the culture of the day.

    My dad brought his own mind and heart into submission and God did the rest hence why he was very much like Paul in his walk in that he knew that it was God working through him and that it was the miraculous work of God and not of his own will.

    God chooses His disciples on earth by their obedience and not by their belief, works or knowledge and that means I am agreeing with Gary.

    I am not saying this to be argumentive but because I seen how God worked in my dad and I now know it was the miraculous work of God though I was too much in the dark myself to know it.

    I blind myself to God in the world but He is still there but with all my wandering I have lost sight of Him and that is something my dad did not do was loose sight of God and my dad remained humble and put no expectations on anyone other than himself as I believe it was his hearts desire to please God above all else.

  22. narrowpathseeker says:

    Thank you Steve….sometimes my head just can’t get into 2nd gear and I need help understanding….your explanation cleared that up for me…thank you again.

  23. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed I agree with Viv in that she feels your comments this morning are leading up to your departure.

    I plead with you please do not leave BTA. We need you.

    In the movie “Gettysburg” A confederate general speaking to an English officer said to him that the men would lead the coming charge without an officer to lead them, that they know the mettle of the foe and the task at hand.

    That the cowards and shirkers had long past left.

    He spoke this little speech just prior to the famous “Pickets Charge” whereupon General Picket’s entire regiment was wiped out.

    I am certainly not saying it cowardly of you to leave, no, you have shown courage and honor in all you have had to say here and I for one have always enjoyed your comments.

    When I first chanced upon BTA it was teeming with people from all over the globe and it quickly grew to a huge number of participants with one fellow telling Mart to enlarge the site because it was going to explode with people wanting to join in.

    It was so successful that Satan attacked. Despite movies that show Satan as a horned beast that comes right at you, no quite to the contrary he is very sneaky and subtle angel and uses people open to him to use in his attacks.

    And his attacks have been relentless.

    Which is why we are down to the few participants we are.

    Don’t leave, but stay in the fight with me. I will never let that snake win. No matter what he throws at me, God is my ally and nothing will succeed against us as long as we stay true to Him.

    Please Foreverblessed stay.

    Steve

  24. poohpity says:

    I do not know where you learned that God chose His disciples because of their obedience, God chose people that He knew would recognize their own need of Him and who would follow when He called their name. Sadly many follow other people rather than God and compare themselves with other people rather than comparing themselves with Jesus which there is no comparison. There is not one person who is fully obedient to God, if that were even possible then there would be no need for the Cross.

    People will not follow God when they have made a person their god.

  25. poohpity says:

    Satan has already won on this blog. He keeps the focus off of God and His ways, to the ways of the world; hatred, bitterness, condemnation, blame, gossip, malice, slander all the things of the flesh.

  26. phpatato says:

    Forever

    I too sense that you are thinking of leaving. I side with Viv and Steve in asking that you please stay. Your presence here is like a large mug of rich hot chocolate on a cold and bitter winter’s day. It was in your very first comments on this site that I immediately grew to love and respect you.

    Please stay.

    Pat xo

  27. poohpity says:

    The very rhymes of life without God.

  28. poohpity says:

    Yes forever stay you fit in so well with all us sinners.

  29. mtman says:

    Foreverblessed: I remember when you first joined and while I have left this site I do come back and check it on occasion. Today was such an occasion and I saw your comment. I have now quit participating in the site twice, and have reached my limit but I do enjoy visiting occasionally and reading your comments and those of most of the others. It was enjoyable while it lasted.

    I have read enough to see that you are in the bulls eye of Pooh. She is articulate and cunning. She can make everything about her and likes to bask in the spotlight. She does not discuss issues but instead focus’ on people.

    I like Steve’s down to earth comments but if you go back in the blogs you will see as soon as he makes a comment she pounces in one way or the other on his comment. He ignores her and I suggest instead of engaging her you do the same. If you still feel compelled to leave and the Lord directs you to do so then is the time to leave.

    I tried that but she still kept attention on her and her being the victim so I just pulled the plug. When I come back now to read some of the good comments I skip over her completely. Her cunning comments are strictly designed to bait and take people off topic and she has done this from the very start. You need to rise above that tactic.

    If you ignore her completely and do not respond she will simply move on to someone else and you will still be a participant and far more happy. Her length of time on the blog and her antics have kept the blog in turmoil and reflects poorly on Mart and his stated efforts for this blog.

    I repeat she is cunning and if Mart won’t delete her from posting on his blog then try first to totally ignore her and not reply to her baited comments. That is my advice to you.

    So Pooh if you reply to this you are too late as I’m gone again and won’t go back to read any follow up on this topic.

  30. narrowpathseeker says:

    Foreverblessed…I totally missed the cue that you might be thinking of leaving this site. I join with Viv, Pat, Steve,and Mtman…PLEASE do not leave! I too always found your genuine heart for Jesus, integrity, and righteous thinking a very welcome contribution. I certainly hope that my inability to accept Pooh’s continual cruelty to everyone here hasn’t influenced your thoughts of departure(if that is really what you plan to do). I have prayed for her over and over…and a couple of times I actually felt compassion for her and tried to make amends with her only to have her attack and rob me of any desire to communicate. I know you don’t like to see any evil in anyone or think the worst of anyone, but I haven’t reached that place in my walk…I see it as it is what it is, but I am truly sorry if that offended you….but for the record….I see no evil in anyone else on this site….so again…please do not leave.

  31. SFDBWV says:

    Deborah please try and understand no one here wants to hurt you or see you in torment, no one.

    You can’t possibly honestly believe that everyone here is somehow in the wrong and only you are somehow a victim.

    Scripturally it is stated that when one of us is in the wrong we are to gently tell that person so that they can get back on track and be aligned with the Body of Christ.

    At some point nearly everyone here has tried to help you see the error of your ways.

    But Deborah you cannot accept responsibility for your actions, not in this nor in anything else. Something will always be someone else’s fault and you blameless.

    Your sarcasm and poisonous comments to others are not in character with being Christian. In doing so you have destroyed your witness for Christ.

    It is imperative that you confess your sins to God and ask forgiveness, daily or as often as you pray.

    It is equally imperative that when you wrong another that you ask forgiveness for your offense to them admitting your error and requesting they forgive you.

    But unless you believe you have done a wrong to another you are not going to ask forgiveness.

    And it has to be sincere. If it isn’t the hearer of your confession will know, because the Holy Spirt knows.

    You don’t lie to the person only, but to the Holy Spirit as well.

    Deborah, several years ago Glenna was so angry with you over comments you made toward me she wanted to get on and tell you off. Not once but several times.

    Out of respect and love for me she did as I ask of her and did not say anything at all. As a result where she used to enjoy reading along the blog, she had to quit reading it altogether.

    You owe everyone here an apology especially Mart, as your behavior has wrecked and ruined the BTA experience for everyone.

    In spite of all that Deborah, if you confess with your mouth and accept Jesus as Lord you can be born again. A born again Deborah is not going to be like the old one, but will produce the fruit of the Spirit. Not the same old fruit of the world.

    I am sorry Mart to have to do this, I hope you will forgive me and if I have offended you in saying this here on BTA tell me and I will apologize to you personally and publicly as you request.

    Equally I hope and pray that BTA will be healed and restored to what it once was.

    Steve

  32. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, Its how God works through a person’s obedience and not their knowledge and it is not about a person being perfect but their willingness to submit their will to His will.

    Our Salvation is secure through the cross but God is establishing His Kingdom throughout heaven and earth and He does that through followers He chooses and that will be those who stay close to His leading and I am saying that because my dad would not have had the insight he had if he wasn’t staying close to God.

    I should know because I did the opposite to my dad and spend more time wandering in the dark than being lead by God. My dad’s relationship was right with others because his relationship with right with God.

    I struggle in my relationships because my relationship isn’t right with God and never has been because I have a chemical imbalance that disturbs my mind and my head is all over the place while my dad could submit his mind to God and know God’s leading which is why God requires discipline so that His followers have His truths in a dark world.

    The bible will give us knowledge, encouragement from stories of our forefathers and comfort that God is faithful to us but it will not keep me aligned to His will in the modern world without obedience to His Holy Spirit.

    God wants me/you to stay close to Him so that we see His will is still being done today because it is when I see that I will stop having doubts that cause me to stumble and know that He is in control regardless of what anybody says I will have the peace that God has got me even when I have not got Him.

    You are right Pooh God is so much better than we deserve and why it is often so difficult to grasp that goodness in a wayward world.

  33. Beloved says:

    Deuteronomy 8:3 comes to mind Mart. Jesus is our bread, the Word we need to be listening to. Jesus makes the whole world rhyme. I love the picture with the little bird being fed right out God’s own hand. Being still I can hear God more clearly.

  34. street says:

    was sitting with a friend at DQ enjoying a snack, yesterday. i made the comment that in the physical world all you need is food and a place to shelter, maybe, not even the shelter. but i do understand this is a culture of death compared to…” you shall live by every word that proceeds from the mouth of God.”

  35. street says:

    thinking about the scribes and the pharisees who would not give up the seats of moses even when the Son of God was standing before them. they fulfilled their purpose in prophesy and were held accountable because they claimed they could see.

  36. street says:

    job can be more honest than his three friends. he followed the truth wherever it led him. the righteous shall live by faithfulness. he asked for things prior to his meeting with God and they were provided.

  37. bubbles says:

    This site used to be a wonderful place to visit and fellowship, but my goodness! It isn’t the same place it used to be, and that is sad. I miss the old BTA. I, too, have stopped commenting for reasons stated above. I cannot have stress in my life, and I allowed the one to cause me stress, so I have also left. I just happened to hop on here at dinnertime. It is very sad to see something beautiful degenerate. I love all of you.

  38. Beloved says:

    Matthew 7:7-8New Living Translation (NLT)

    Effective Prayer
    7 “Keep on asking, and you will receive what you ask for. Keep on seeking, and you will find. Keep on knocking, and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks, receives. Everyone who seeks, finds. And to everyone who knocks, the door will be opened.

    Effective prayer indeed! Made me think of Job also and what a beautiful rhyme his life made because He knew and trusted God, even with all the seemingly harsh parts of his story. I guess its how you look at it though that matters for today.

  39. Beloved says:

    I know that whenever I come to a decisive conclusion about anything bubbles I’m usually wrong. God usually overrules me because He is God and I am most certainly not! It really pays for me to listen closely or at least openly. His ways are so loving I almost can’t take it! Lol!

  40. saled says:

    I had never heard the “Although history doesn’t repeat itself, it often rhymes” quote. And then Mart says, “Truth goes deeper than words or events.” Both of these statements remind me that I am a puny human being with limited knowledge on both past and current, local and world events.

    There is so much wonder and mystery in the short topic. We really don’t live by what we can do, by our own work. And what does this mean, “by every word of provision spoken into our lives-on the breath of our God”?

    I’m thankful for the topics here and the comments, both of which have given me lots to think about over the years. I hope to become a more regular contributor and hope we can get back to discussing ideas instead of people.

  41. street says:

    dear bubbles, you said,”This site used to be a wonderful place to visit and fellowship, but my goodness!”
    i guess what you look for you will eventually find. i was thinking when two pieces of iron come together sparks are going to fly. the question remains is the edge getting sharper or duller? if you are looking for encouragement and strength a closer walk with the Lord should suffice. the getting out and socializing exercises loving people that are unlovable. the Lord loved us when we were unlovable, sure we love Him because He first loved us. paying it forward comes to mind. whatever you did to the least of My brethren you did it to Me. yes i get my tail feathers in a dither on a daily basis. i have learned not to look for comfort in tangibles. they are nice and familiar but they are passing away. thank the Lord anyway. come to the Lord while He is near there will be times when He seems far away like when job felt that way. i think mart’s hope is for growth and edification of the church, he is busy praying. please continue to be honest. i think one of the things that is apparent is the fruit of temperance. i came upon the word yesterday looking up the words of virtue. virtue is mentioned many times in the Bible as something to strive or abide in. for me i say this because it is one i lack daily and see played out here. anger and profanity is my normal cup of brew. i think temperance and peace are the cure among the other five. shalom

  42. street says:

    beloved said,”I love the picture with the little bird being fed right out God’s own hand. Being still I can hear God more clearly.”

    i still love the crumbs that fall from the children’s table!

  43. street says:

    “I venture to say that a good 95 percent of your behavior you do not premeditate. That is, most of your thoughts, attitudes, and actions are spontaneous. They are just spillover from what’s inside. Is it not plain, therefore, that there is one great task of the Christian life? Be transformed by the renewing of your mind. We need new hearts and new minds. That’s the great challenge. Give yourself to this. Immerse yourself in the written word of God; saturate your mind with it. And pray that the Spirit of Christ would make you so new that the spillover would be good, acceptable, and perfect — the will of God.” –John Piper

  44. SFDBWV says:

    Reading on in Mart’s new thoughts I see the comment of “empty lives”. It made me think of how many poems and songs have been written about just that, the feeling of emptiness, of uselessness or longing for a purpose.

    I have known several people and even myself for a time that longed to have some “ministry” some work for God.

    Only to find out that stepping ahead of God only produces failure.

    God does provide all we need, but that isn’t to say He will give us all we want.

    The “anointing” comes from God and empowers the recipient to accomplish God’s will. God’s will becomes our purpose and only when occupied in such work do we feel filled, satisfied and alive.

    All because we are fed by the “Word” of God, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah, the Lord.

    So satisfying is it that we want it all the time. If we just will be still and let God open our eyes and our heart we might just be surprised that we are exactly where He wants us doing exactly what He desires of us after-all.

    Hoping to Hear from Foreverblessed today with good news and as always glad to see Saled and Bubbles comment.

    Praying every day for you Bubbles.

    We will be burying Crick today. Though clear right now, they are calling for rain all day.

    Steve

  45. foreverblessed says:

    Good morning everyone!
    I came in to proceed with thanking more of you, the ones I havent mentioned yet.
    But then I read what all of you wrote,
    and I had to cry!

    I am crying.
    May God take my tears, and restore!

  46. foreverblessed says:

    I am reconsidering my decision:
    You all saw that I asked Pooh to say sorry for having called my sorry meaningless.

    You all saw that Pooh answers: Rub it in, asking for a sorry, Jesus did not ask Peter for a sorry!

    Can you, some of you please join in and ask Pooh about her valling my sorry meaningless?
    I only need one or two!
    Just this ONE point, saying the sorry of Foreverblessed is meaningless.

  47. foreverblessed says:

    I do this in obedience of the procedure Jesus has given in Matthew 18:15-16
    I have done the first step.

    Now I proceed with the second step, asking one or two witnesses with me, and confront Pooh again

  48. foreverblessed says:

    To help you all out, see my comment to Pooh in the former topic,
    Old New Year Thought, January 10, 2018, 10.41 am.
    But adding this to it, that I indeed ask for a sorry!

    She not has responded to me personally yet, only saying in general, that Jesus did not rub it in to Peter, asking for a sorry.

    ( To which I say why did Jesus did not have to ask for a sorry? Because Peter had gone outside, and wept bitterly.
    Peter had already shown that he was sorry)

    And do not misunderstand, I love Pooh dearly. The new Pooh, that is deep insider! Just as Steve said too! Thanks Steve for saying that!

  49. poohpity says:

    First off Forever, you did not come to me one on one(alone) but instead brought your problem with me in front of the gang, who has backed you up from the beginning. Again meaningless. What better place than in front of the gang who already finds many faults with me to air the problem. Prove it was not all meaningless, just words and forgive even if I do not say sorry. I did not respond to your last comment about this because it was something I had already apologized for but it keeps being brought up again and again then wanting a new apology with each new time it is brought up to be lectured on, so what good would it do in reality. You should give it to God and have peace because He forgave “you” which is the only reason we need to forgive someone else not because they have a repentant heart or admit to wrong doing but just forgive because “you” have been forgiven, that needs be enough for any born again believer. So truth be told actually you did not follow the guidelines that Jesus gave in Matt 18 you started with the church first(the gang) to scorn not for restoration of a relationship but for the public to say how right you are and how wrong I am. Job well done, no restoration here but further condemnation.

    If I was loved dearly then why would you force me to say sorry rather than just forgive? Meaningless noise to me.

  50. poohpity says:

    Most of the comments are exact examples of what the topic is about.

  51. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed I have been holding back saying anything along your request hoping someone else might join in. since they have not I will respond.

    Speaking strictly for myself, I said all I wanted to, to pooh yesterday and really want to move on past all that ugliness.

    I believe that what I said and the thrust of what others said was that pooh needs to apologies not only to you, but everyone.

    If it is needed for you to have someone join in your request to her that she apologies to you, then by all means I will join with you in your request.

    Equally praying for the healing of all affected.

    Steve

  52. poohpity says:

    Matt 6:1

  53. cbrown says:

    Foreverblessed, your comments are a blessing. Most of Poohs comments are a blessing also. However when she goes on the offense the best thing to do is leave the room.She hands out criticism easily but does not receive it well.Last night one of the inmates in our study wanted to know how he could learn more about Love and we reviewed 1 Cor 13. I would encourage each person on this board to read the Word of God and be mindful that as Mart said ” when we are allowed to see that we really don’t live by what we can do for ourselves or for one another— but by every word of provision spoken into our lives—on the breath of our God?” Love to each of us.

  54. poohpity says:

    I do wholeheartedly apologize to all for trying to play God in your lives. I wanted you to see that while picking out all my faults, shortcomings and failures that you have many of your own that God has forgiven you for rather than trusting God to do that. He is completely able and does it with more grace than I ever could. I so do apologize because God asked us to love one another in spite of our faults, failures and shortcomings. That same love He showed us should come pouring out to others. Again I am sorry and will leave it up to Him.

  55. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Steve,

    So this is how I suggest you do it:
    Ask her to say sorry that she calls my sorry meaningless.
    Just asking for this one thing. Say no more than just that.
    The best thing is to ask her on this blog.

    And then we see how she responds to your question.

    PS I do agree with you that there are many more things she has to say sorry for. But this thing of reconciliatie we have to wade through is ONE step at a time.
    So you start, and this thing will evolve, it will show itself as we probeer.

    But the thing is, God tells us to do something when somebody sins against us, IN the Brotherhood of Christ.

  56. foreverblessed says:

    But do it all in the Spirit of love.
    God asked me, do you love Pooh?
    And I could say Yes to that AFTER I made the decision not to think evil about Pooh. Pooh herself, deep inside does not want to believe in lies. She IS a child of God, dearly loved.

  57. poohpity says:

    Chris, is there a difference in correction and criticism? If someone shares something that is not true to God’s word are we to just let it go and not share what it actually does teach? It was wrong for me to refer to the group as a gang which I did not include Maru, street or any others that make it a point to discuss ideas about the topic rather than as saled said, “people”. You are right it is wrong for me to try to defend myself and when misunderstood to correct, I should also let God take of that as well.

  58. foreverblessed says:

    Probeer – Proceed
    As we proceed things will get more clear.
    I have asked her first, I could not do that outside this blog, they willen not give me anybodies email address, so it was my question to her: I have a message for Pooh, in the former topic. That was my personel question to her.
    Besides, it was quite in the open for everybody when she gave her opinion of my sorry to her.

  59. SFDBWV says:

    Pooh,
    Only because it is so very important to our sister in Christ and my friend Foreverblessed. I hope that you see how very important this matter is to her.

    She asks that you apologize to her for saying her apology/sorry was meaningless.

    And I ask the same thing of you in agreement with her.

    You have an opportunity here pooh to do the right thing, I only hope you do.

    Steve

  60. poohpity says:

    Jesus is a friend of sinners and I am His friend. He came to seek and save the lost, that was me. I do recognize my sinful nature because I believe what He says; like when He says “all sin and fall short of His glory” or “if we say we have not sinned, then you call God a liar and His word is not in you”. The only healing found is in His Word not because I see the sin in myself or others that is only the starting point of seeking and searching for Him to restore us.

  61. poohpity says:

    Again, I said, I apologized for hurting her feelings that is exactly why I apologized.

  62. foreverblessed says:

    Pooh, you apologized for a previous offence.
    After that apologize, you had a new offence towards me:
    Saying that my sorry to you was meaningless.

    Please read my comment to you on the former topic, Jan 10, 2018, 10.41 am

    Andere indeed we are forgiven. But that does not mean we just say sorry.

  63. foreverblessed says:

    Ehhhh…..

    that does not mean we do not say sorry, when we have offended

  64. narrowpathseeker says:

    This was the Light For Today by James E Davey, in a devotional I read recently. “………———-what do we find in this Man(Jesus) that challenges us to follow Him and be transformed into His likeness? In the God man we find those characteristics that comprise in their totality the summum bonum of human perfection. We find in Him meekness without a trace of weakness, we discover holiness without the sham of hypocrisy, we find humility detached from a grovelling servility, we find power without the blemish of pride or arrogance, we find suffering without the debilitating companion of self pity. We find success without the grasping outreach of self seeking, we see demonstrated in the daily life of this individual and in those final hours at Calvary a love that knows no limit”

    I think we are ALL painfully aware that we are not THERE yet, but I believe that most of us can see we are past the starting line and on our way. Falling, getting up, helping others up, and yes even looking back and seeing some that aren’t making much progress and try to help them on..we can’t force anyone along…we can only call for Help and leave it to Him.

  65. Beloved says:

    Narrow thank you for the devotional. I was thinking of how sometimes an old wound can suddenly be reopened before it’s fully healed and an apology given can seem like a wasted effort to both the sender and the receiver. Insincere at best. Chris your words are worth thinking about also as we all struggle along as best we can with the limited knowledge we all have. It’s darn near impossible to read another mind. We can only guess sometimes and even then we tend to respond out of our own brokenness rather than the wholeness found in Christ alone. Blessings to all in and through Christ Jesus.

  66. poohpity says:

    saled, Jeff1 mentioned a song earlier that may have brought enlightenment to the idea mentioned by Mart when he said, “but by every word of provision spoken into our lives—on the breath of our God?” I also found this song which also speaks to that.

    O Holy Spirit breathe on me,
    O Holy Spirit breathe on me
    and cleanse away my sin;
    fill me with love within:
    O Holy Spirit breathe on me!

    2 O Holy Spirit fill my life,
    O Holy Spirit fill my life;
    take all my pride from me,
    give me humility:
    O Holy Spirit breathe on me!

    3 O Holy Spirit make me new,
    O Holy Spirit make me new,
    make Jesus real to me,
    give me his purity:
    O Holy Spirit breathe on me!

    4 O Holy Spirit, wind of God,
    O Holy Spirit, wind of God,
    give me your power today,
    to live for you always:
    O Holy Spirit breathe on me!

  67. poohpity says:

    Forever, the only thing I was sorry for was hurting your feelings, I still believe your responses were meaningless because of the words that you continue to still write. That is not love or forgiveness in anyway, just words that do not show how much you have been forgiven by God, if you have in fact received His grace which is undeserved then show it. Then it will not be meaningless. If you wanted to contact me privately I have given all my information before but for anyone to demand an apology from someone, it will NEVER result in a heartfelt apology, it misses the whole intent of an apology.

  68. narrowpathseeker says:

    Foreverblessed….PLEASE read and consider the Wisdom and advice given on January 11, 2018 at 12:13 pm by mtman. Remember you are very loved and respected here and when you are attacked it generates a lot of negative emotions for those who care about you and it can rob our peace. If everyone would take mtman’s advice and follow Steve’s example, I really believe peace and harmony could make a comeback here.

  69. cbrown says:

    P00h, I just got off work and did a word study on criticize and correct. Both words have a wide span of uses. Definition of criticize for English Language Learners. : to express disapproval of (someone or something) : to talk about the problems or faults of (someone or something) : to look at and make judgments about (something, such as a piece of writing or a work of art)
    Correct: from the The Latin word rēctus, meaning “straight” or “right,” gives us the root rect. Words from the Latin rēctus have something to do with being straight or correct. . Something correct is right. A rectangle is a shape made of four straight lines and four right angles. I think a example of criticize was when you told me you were surprised about a comment I made about Jonah and questioned my ability to serve in the prison ministry. An example of correct would be when one of us edits a post they had previously made. Pooh, I love you and each of the members of this board and learn from all of you. Unfortunately it does get scrappy at times but if we are honest we all have our moments. Love in Christ

  70. cbrown says:

    Correction “Pooh”

  71. jeff1 says:

    Forever, I believe we are at all different stages of growth and that (I speak for myself here) some find it harder to develop than others. My past often gets in the way of my growth and try as I may I find it difficult to let go of the past because it is so much part of who I am today.

    In truth there has been some very negative beliefs learned by me from my experiences that I have had and the struggle to rid myself of these thoughts/beliefs I am not finding gets any easier and I have been focusing on God to keep them at bay but I am still living in a divided community where strife is all around me so it is knowing that God is with me is what gives me hope because God does not take the difficulties away but as I stay close to Him He gives me the strength to go on and I am finding that as I depend on Him I am becoming less afraid of the enemy around me and more confident in His power to keep me safe from that enemy.

    When I think back to when I was wandering I can remember how my dad was so undisturbed in the midst of violence and hatred and how steadfast he was in not letting it change him and that was because he stayed close to God and his reward was that God lead him away from the darkness and into the light.

    I wandered because I was easy distracted by those who did not have my interests at heart but I was too blind to see it and I have been damaged a lot by those experiences and I cannot undo that damage but I can now recognise when I am wasting my efforts on others who see what they want to and not what God has enlightened me to.

    I believe you are very far ahead in your walk with God Forever so please don’t allow anyone to distract you from it. I have learned so much from your posts because you are so very good with words so focus on God’s will for you Forever as that is more important than this conflict that it takes two to solve and there is only one giver.

  72. phpatato says:

    Foreverblessed

    I have to agree with Pearl, and especially with her last sentence. Remember we too have been in the same place as you are now. It is from the experience of being in the same torment that we can share with you our empathy and lessons learned. Romans 12:15 – We are weeping with you because you are hurting.

    Our God is omnipotent omniscient and omnipresent. Be at peace knowing that you are humble and contrite and that you offered your apology in a loving Christian spirit. I give you these versus to comfort you and along with them is a warm hug.

    Psalm 34:18
    Psalm 51:17
    Psalm 147:3
    Isaiah 66:2

    Pat xo

  73. saled says:

    Thank you for the John Piper quote, street, where he says that he believes 95% of our actions are taken spontaneously, without thought. I think he is right, knowing myself. And this makes me think of Mart’s statement that ‘the truth goes deeper than words or event.” Even we ourselves don’t know how far the truth may rest under our words and actions.

    There is a quote attributed to Victor Frankl that says, “Between stimulus and response is a space. In that space lies our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and happiness.”

    Maybe our transformation, the renewing of our mind, happens in this space. Maybe this space is where we connect with God and his will.

  74. Beloved says:

    Thinking how stimulus/response are dependent on conditioning yet renewing of the mind is what changes classical conditioning into the mind of Christ. Change is possible, but the longer the conditioning the longer it takes to change and not all unfortunately have the patience it takes to accept responsibility to love unconditionally. LORD give me loving patience as I know You know the Way.

  75. jeff1 says:

    I get that patience by staying close to God and each of us will find different ways to do that but finding peace with God is not about removing the difficulties that life brings but about me disciplining myself to see that God does not forsake me in them.

    Those who have influenced my walk the most have been Christians that suffered beyond what I believed I could endure and the secret of their steadfastness was that they found what kept them close to God so that they were strengthened by His indwelling Spirit and not leaning on their own strength.

    My dad learned to do this early in life and why he seemed so cool, calm and collected while others were chaotic and disturbed.

    God rewards discipline whether I see it or not as it is what He uses to enlighten me to His ways in a wayward world.

    I had a mother who believed superstitions and she filled my head full of them but my dad was very clear that God did not work in the way my mother believed and my dad was proven right.

    What my mother seen was not God’s punishment of a wayward soul but the persons guilt consuming them as they believed it was God’s punishment and my dad knew that because he knew God while the superstitions of the cultures of that day were so widespread that more shared my mother’s beliefs than my dads.

    Knowing God means knowing what is right in the midst of people who do not and it is the miraculous work of God in that person that is shining through because they are obedient to God and not to their own beliefs of what God should be like.

  76. poohpity says:

    Chris, oh my gosh I can not believe that I would say someone does not belong in a ministry because they may not know about a bible story. Just showing up to serve them is wonderful enough and if I said something like that I would surely apologize. Is there any chance you could have misunderstood? Right now I do not remember that happening but I do know myself and deterring someone from ministry is not something I would do because I believe we do not have enough Christian’s who do more than just talk but act on their faith and you act on your faith.

  77. poohpity says:

    saled, I think the difference in Frankl’s approach being humanistic, the ability of survival of a human being has nothing to do with God’s influence but man’s ability to overcome and cope on his own self determination compared to someone like Corrie Ten Boom who relied on God especially to have the ability to forgive may have the same source but one seems to give credit to the human being, the creation, the other giving credit to God but both survived.

    If we believe after the death and resurrection that God breathed His Spirit on all mankind even if one does not acknowledge God does that mean He still was not at work?

  78. poohpity says:

    God spoke into provision everything we needed to live on this earth which was also spoke into existence. He spoke even the guidelines so that we could live in harmony and peace with Him and each other. His breathe blown into the nostrils to fill the lungs so that dust came to life of the first human being. At His words all life moves forward or will come to an end when the earth as we know it will be no more. He will speak the new heaven and earth. He sends His angels by His spoken words and tell heavens armies to go.

    By His spoken word He calls each of us by name to come and have a relationship with Him. Oh how mighty and powerful are His spoken words.

  79. poohpity says:

    oops His breath not breathe.

  80. Beloved says:

    Actually Pooh I too remember when you said that to Chris, it was quite a while ago now. I wonder if when you are in one of your “moods” you say things you are not really aware of. I’ve noticed toward the end of the day you are less agreeable meaning snarky and even oppositional at times. But I think I get why, yesterday I had breakfast with someone who attacked me and accused me of all sorts of things I wasn’t aware of that she felt very angry about. I apologized for hurting her and yet I felt unjustly accused and it has damaged our friendship. I feel like I have to walk on egg shells around her and she has a sort of superior attitude about her now. Forgiveness is the thing to do no matter the injustice. Anyway I started putting down someone else during our visit which she caught me on, thank you LORD. But I still feel wounded from her previous tyrade against me so I guess it will take time for me to trust her again. Pooh I get why you trust none of us here accept a few, I felt it myself yesterday. I think maybe time doesn’t heal all wounds of injustice done to another, but as with my friend we just aren’t as close as we once we’re and I avoid certain subjects with her and have asked her not to share them with me because emotionally I just can’t handle them any more. I was her support for many years, I think God has said, Let Me be her support. Street mentioned this the other day, that leaning on God is best. Even though I always pointed my friend to God and often wondered if she had a relationship with Him at all she is in His hands and God has now given me a new friend with only a cursory relationship with the church and no knowledge of God. Pray her eyes will be opened to see Jesus in all His ragged glory please. I hope I haven’t offended you Pooh just trying to tell it as I see it. Love and blessings to you, even if you reject them. God never rejects us or our feeble attempts at reconciliation.

  81. Beloved says:

    God’s breath is life and Love!

  82. SFDBWV says:

    Tuesdays and Saturdays are a little different in that I am able to come to the computer a little earlier that the other days.

    This morning as I sat down it was probably about 4:30. As I looked the title of our new subject over a flood of thoughts came rushing to my mind.

    “The Rhymes of Life”. The echoes of life, the stories of life. I opened up one of my poetry books and it soon became evident that death and dying is in the majority of poems.

    Not really wanting to dwell on that, even though Cricks funeral was still very fresh in my mind I decided to go ahead and forego any comments and get to the task of cleaning off the ice and snow out back and plow the hill off.

    Having gotten all of that done the tasks of life here soon took control of my time. Life goes on.

    Indeed the routines of our life here are in concert with the concept that “history repeats itself, and rhymes every day, day after day.

    It also seems that our prayer life can also become routine and an echo of rhyming.

    Just how very important it is sometimes to quiet ourselves and listen to God.

    I think that today I will try and be more silent and await that still small voice I know so well to stir in me that which is His will and together accomplish the task He has chosen for me.

    13 degrees with a steady flow of snow coming down.

    Steve

  83. Beloved says:

    Pooh I truly am sorry for all the many times through the years I have hurt you. I will try harder to filter what I write on here. I like saleds advice, talk about the subject not people. However I wanted to start over with a clean slate. Joyce

  84. cbrown says:

    Pooh, good morning. I made a comment back then that in our difference of opinion you were “poisoning the well”and then forgot about it. My point is that we can says things that have implications we did not intend but if we and the person we are communicating with are in the Spirit and not the flesh no conflict can occur. Love, Chris

  85. poohpity says:

    Beloved, I do not trust people who see faults, sins or failures in others first and foremost but do not ever recognize them within their own lives or blame their behaviors on someone else.

  86. poohpity says:

    Beloved, if you remember so well what was said between Chris and I, do share what was said. Of course for me to believe you I have to believe you are a honest person to begin with which I don’t.

  87. Beloved says:

    I am an honest person most of the time, God started teaching me about virtue when I was 14 in the midst of horrific abuse even. And I try to abide by it. Whatever mistrust you have of new I well deserved and accept responsibility for my sins against you.

  88. Beloved says:

    I remember exactly how Chris stated it Pooh.

  89. Beloved says:

    Mistrust of me, not new.

  90. Beloved says:

    I’m thinking if I judged everyone I know on whether they are worthy of my time I’d be pretty lonesome, we are forgiven as we forgive. That means forgiving all the dishonest people in my life, of which that is pretty much every human being at one time or another- myself included no matter how hard I try to do what is right according to the Law of Love and reconciliation in Christ Jesus.

  91. cbrown says:

    Awww come on Chris you had to know this stuff and if not what do you teach in the prisons? That gives me cause for concern.

    cbrown says:
    January 14, 2016 at 11:56 am
    Your last paragraph Pooh is what is called ‘poisoning the well.”

  92. jeff1 says:

    I think it is impossible not to see faults, sins and failures in others first because it is much easier to see it in others which is why I need someone else to be telling me of my failings because everyone has different failings and why we need to be listening to each other.

    Also when it comes to blame I have blamed my mum more than anyone in my life and yet I know it is wrong but she filled my head full of superstitious nonsense and I believed it for the biggest part of my life and old habits die hard I am finding out.

    My dad concentrated in keeping his own relationship right with God and consequently his relationship was right with others as my dad blamed no one for his own shortcomings but confessed them to God so that he would be strengthened by God.

    When God says put me first that is exactly what He means and then you will not mistrust others because they are not as far forward in their walk with God because it will not concern you as you yourself will be so at one with God that nothing will shake your faith and that is God’s will that you are secure in Him regardless of your walk with others.

    Remember it is harder to see your own behaviour’s as I see people who are alike and if you put them in the same room for 10 minutes their would be war.

    So what you accuse others of you are more than likely doing the same thing only you won’t notice it in yourself as easily.

    When I find I am being critical of others I just remind myself that I need to look in the mirror and that very soon brings me back to the reality that we all have faults and why God wants us to focus on Him who is faultless because when I am doing that I will not be so critical of others irrespective of whether they have failings or not.

  93. Beloved says:

    Pooh do you believe Chris to be an honest person? Doesn’t matter what you think of me, I get it, but I don’t understand why you apologise to Chris if you trust him and believe he still loves you even after your attacking him and his calling. I’m confused.

  94. Beloved says:

    Why you ‘dont’ apologize I meant to say.

  95. Beloved says:

    Of course it could have been a tongue in cheek type response I suppose, but it was dirty nonetheless.

  96. Beloved says:

    Viv I find the only way to “fight old habits” or thoughts is with the Word of God. When my heart and mind says be afraid, I recite out loud sometimes, “God has not given me the Spirit of fear, but power, love and a sound mind”! 2 Timothy 1:7

  97. Beloved says:

    Viv I’ve even written encouraging words from God down and carried them in my pocket, taped them to my dashboard of my car and above my kitchen sink and bathroom mirror. I know music is very comfortable and soothing to you but I’d listen to more scripture songs- only God’s word can truly change us, as Pooh knows and preaches all the time.

  98. cbrown says:

    Pooh, I do not need an apology. At the time I only made my response to show you what you had said. Love, Chris

  99. cbrown says:

    But, we do need to realize God directs born again believers not to take each other to court but to settle out of court.

  100. Beloved says:

    Chris I’m so glad you said that you don’t need an apology. My thinking is it gets into legalism when we demand anything from each other, and you are being a good example here. I got sidetracked for a moment there trying to justify myself again. UFFDAH.

  101. jeff1 says:

    Beloved, I find that when I focus on God’s goodness that is enough for me because it was my weakness to doubt his goodness while my dad knew God was consistently good and it was people who changed God.

    When I get doubts in my mind then I enjoy songs that tell me of His goodness and that keeps my mind from thinking wrong thoughts which is what keeps me at peace.

    I believe find what works for you as if it keeps me close to God then God will do the rest.

    I should not overlook God’s power to do His will through me as He will find a way when there seems to be no way and it is Him accomplishing that is what matters to my life in Christ.

  102. Beloved says:

    Pooh have you heard “You Are More” by Tenth Avenue West on YouTube? It’s awesome!

  103. Beloved says:

    Thankful God opened your eyes to see His goodness Viv. It’s a gift not all have a heart to understand.

  104. poohpity says:

    Chris this is what you said, “Did Jesus accept everyone “warts and all”? No, he did not.” That to me is poising the well for those who want to come to Jesus just as they are, knowing that it is His work in our lives that changes us.

    It certainly does change a story line when all the conversation is brought to light doesn’t it??

  105. poohpity says:

    If one does not teach come to Jesus just as you are, people would be lead to believe they have to clean up their act before they come to Jesus and that is NOT TRUTH, period.

  106. poohpity says:

    Beloved, after this last conversation with Chris, no I will not trust what he has to say either. Pulling out partial things to prove a point and not within the context of the whole is twisting the truth.

  107. narrowpathseeker says:

    OK, I have a thought on history repeating itself in a similar fashion or “rhyme”. With the exception of a handful of sins that I don’t understand at all, that make me cringe at the mere thought of them, over the years I have committed just about every other sin there is, in THOUGHT, WORD, or DEED. YES, and even the arrogance and false pride of thinking I was the good guy in most any given situation. It was the FIRST conviction that I can remember in regard to “He that says he loves God but hates his brother, is a liar” that opened my eyes to be able to see myself as clearly as I could see others. I CRINGE still when I think of some of the things I said and done of the years…even those or maybe ESPECIALLY those that I confessed to the person and apologized to them and was forgiven and hugged. I soooo wish I had never done those things.. I KNOW I am forgiven, but I remain remorseful..

    Yet, STILL EVERYDAY, I see something in myself that isn’t very pretty and have to take it to the Lord and ask forgiveness. …again and again… 2 B continued have to run

  108. poohpity says:

    Now you know why I said, “Awww come on Chris you had to know this stuff and if not what do you teach in the prisons? That gives me cause for concern.” To teach prisoners that Jesus does not want them to come to Him warts and all just is not the Gospel.

  109. Beloved says:

    Dear Pooh it really doesn’t matter to me whether you trust me or not and I’m sure I could get a consensus on that. You prize yourself too highly if that’s your issue here. follow Jesus only trust Him only but please try harder to get along with others here. Building up the body of Christ is Marts purpose for this blog and the whole ODB ministry. Let’s try harder and be less sensitive and self-protective.

  110. Beloved says:

    Pooh I know Chris does not teach that comment he made in his ministry. The truth is we don’t know who will come though all are invited. There are those Elect the Bible talks about who are chosen. Though you are probably unaware.

  111. poohpity says:

    It was not a comment made about Jonah which is what you said Chris I replied to you about, it was about Jesus but it was in the “Why Jonah Ran” topic.

  112. cbrown says:

    Pooh,now I see that is hard to walk away from the room.My ministry is with those convicted of murder robbery, sexual crimes,etcand I have led many to the Lord. When any of them come to Jesus he will accept them into God’s Kingdom. If they like most of the pharisee’s refuse to come to Christ they have damned themselves to eternal hell.You made a harsh judgement of me.

  113. poohpity says:

    Oh Joyce, I do not prize myself highly, I prize only the Lord highly because I know I am only a sinner, warts and all, saved by His grace. No matter what you think which is often not true.

  114. poohpity says:

    Oh my gosh Chris, I did not say anything about any of the rest of your ministry but ONLY the thought that Jesus does not accept us warts and all which is what you brought up from the past I just shared the reason I responded back then as I did. I said, that just going into the prisons is wonderful and is serving God by stepping out in faith. Please do not confuse the issues here.

    You brought up only my response to you not the reason for it and that is just not fair in the least.

  115. narrowpathseeker says:

    Continued from 2:58pm. I remain remorseful for MOST of my wrong doing to others even after being forgiven, but I think for the most part I have to SEE where I am sinful. When I couldn’t SEE that I was often the “BAD GUY” I had no remorse just anger…no humility…just arrogance…no forgiveness because I didn’t ask for something I didn’t think I needed! Why would I the GOOD GUY need to be forgiven? I don’t know if this makes any sense to anyone else.

    I had been to countless different churches and bible studies…I had heard that scripture before and I had plenty of knowledge under my belt…but I didn’t KNOW much of anything and surely didn’t KNOW God. I am thinking knowledge puffeth up…and I was quite over PUFFED…..thinking back I am sooo GLAD that the Lord convicted me, gave me sight, and worked some humility into me.

    Now when I recognize someone who is puffed up and arrogant that thinks they are the “GOOD GUY” in any given situation am I suppose to pacify them and atta boy their imagined “GOOD GUY” status and excuse them from all offense?.. Is that being kind and loving? OR would it be more loving to tell them what you think and if they don’t receive it, pray for them, and then part company with them until some change comes their way?

  116. Beloved says:

    You see Pooh, that’s the problem here, you won’t own up to your sins and instead turn them back on others, which is why you cannot be trusted, at all. Loved, yes we are told to love one another, but God’s love is bigger and all encompassing. That’s the love I have for you, a wretched sinner just like all the rest of us. Like I said, YOU need to figure out how to be a loving, kind, gentle, humble part of the Body in a way that glorifies God and gives outsiders pause to consider the loving God we serve, and maybe even want to know Him!

  117. jeff1 says:

    Beloved, I didn’t always have a heart to understand myself and it was God who made a way for me because of His goodness. It was God’s patience and timing which means that God does not rush us and that gives me hope for others who are also blinded because it tells me God doesn’t give up on anyone no matter how lost He will find them as it is His will to do so.

    Satan can distract us and do his worst to separate us but God will not allow His children to be separated from Him forever and when His plan is fulfilled we shall be free at last from his schemes.

  118. cbrown says:

    The point is I would never say there is any sin other than blasphemy against the Holy Spirit that is unpardonable.So , evidently,due to a communication issue you have harshly judged me twice.Once, when you questioned me working in prison and again above when you questioned my honesty. Frankly, I am not concerned about your judgement of me but i am concerned for you that you pass these judgments so casually.

  119. Beloved says:

    I prayed for the blog then read Spurgeon today and was greatly encouraged! If He can make an axe head float surely nothing, NOTHING is impossible with God. Picking up my axe head and getting a cup of coffee.

  120. jeff1 says:

    While I understand that God accepts me as I am and that is so good to know because of my weaknesses but surely I should have the desire and the intent to clean up my act but in the knowledge that if I falter, I confess and God is merciful.

    I would expect however that in myself there would be a change from the inside out otherwise I am giving lip service but I am not allowing God to change me from within and until I am changed from within others will not see the goodness of Jesus but will still see the badness of Viv.

    How then can a non believer identify me as a follower of Christ other than on my say so and in my experience non believers expect a follower of Christ to be Christ like otherwise they will not trust me and can I expect them to?

    If I am still lashing out in anger and critical of others then I am very much my first parents and depending on how long I am a Christian should I not expect to have grown out of such behaviour.

  121. Beloved says:

    True Viv,
    I Corinthians13 13If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn’t love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. 2 If I had the gift of prophecy, and if I understood all of God’s secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn’t love others, I would be nothing. 3 If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it;[a] but if I didn’t love others, I would have gained nothing.

    11 When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things.

  122. cbrown says:

    Pooh, my post: Pooh, no it was not. As evidence of his heart when he was sitting under the plant.Did Jesus accept everyone “warts and all”? No, he did not.The scribes and pharisees he did not accept because they knew who God was but sought their own kingdom

    Pooh, your post from 2:47 today Chris this is what you said, “Did Jesus accept everyone “warts and all”? No, he did not.” That to me is poising the well for those who want to come to Jesus just as they are, knowing that it is His work in our lives that changes us

  123. narrowpathseeker says:

    “It certainly does change a story line when all the conversation is brought to light doesn’t it??” It most certainly does Pooh….it most certainly does….

    cbrown, thank you.

  124. SFDBWV says:

    How very often we talk about music, and I have said I listen to it every morning as I set here reading whatever.

    One of my regulars is Johnny Cash singing “The _Man_Comes Around”

    It is about the day of reckoning. Or as he puts it, “Alpha and Omega’s kingdom come.

    When that day comes we will all be in one of two places, coming face to face with all of the bad decisions of our lives, or hidden in Christ.

    Christ offers us refuge, a cleft in the rock, safety in the Ark.

    Our songs, our poetry, our testimonies should reflect that and our lives should show it.

    Cash’s song also mentions that “the virgins are trimming their wicks” in reference to filling their lamps with oil in preparation for the wedding feast.

    The oil or the Holy Spirit indwelling in us when lit allows for the light of Christ to be seen.

    Once again the light that comes from us should be the guiding light of Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ.

    The manner of speech that comes from us or whatever it is we write comes from our heart.

    Either our lamps are filled with oil and our light bright or we are yet to be prepared by being empty and void of the Holy Spirit when our day of reckoning comes.

    2 degrees with clear skies after a little overnight snow fall.

    Steve

  125. phpatato says:

    Good morning All

    Steve your comment this morning made me immediately think of a children’s Bible song that I would sing while standing beside the piano with Mom. I might have been 10 or 11 at the time.

    GIVE ME OIL IN MY LAMP – written by A. SEVISON, C. BARNY ROBERTSON

    Give me oil in my lamp, keep me burning
    Give me oil in my lamp, I pray
    Give me oil in my lamp, keep me burning
    Keep me burning till the break of day

    Sing hosanna, sing hosanna
    Sing hosanna to the Servant King
    Sing hosanna, sing hosanna
    Sing hosanna, let us sing

    Give me joy in my heart, keep me praising
    Give me joy in my heart, I pray
    Give me joy in my heart, keep me praising
    Keep me praising till the break of day

    Sing hosanna, sing hosanna
    Sing hosanna to the Servant King
    Sing hosanna, sing hosanna
    Sing hosanna, let us sing

    3. Give me peace in my heart, keep me loving
    Give me peace in my heart, I pray
    Give me peace in my heart, keep me loving
    Keep me loving till the break of day

    Sing hosanna, sing hosanna
    Sing hosanna to the Servant King
    Sing hosanna, sing hosanna
    Sing hosanna, let us sing

    Give me love in my heart, keep me serving
    Give me love in my heart, I pray
    Give me love in my heart, keep me serving
    Keep me serving till the break of day

    Sing hosanna, sing hosanna
    Sing hosanna to the Servant King
    Sing hosanna, sing hosanna
    Sing hosanna, let us sing

    Bitterly cold once again. Extreme cold warnings were posted for last night. Not a cloud in the sky, the sun is shining brightly as I type. -30C right now with a forecast high of -16C today. I am getting my morning coffees into me before my visit with one of my twin grandsons. The other one will be visiting his other Grandma today. We jokingly call it divide and conquer. :-) Have a blessed day.

    Pat

  126. jeff1 says:

    From Sunday morning reflections I choose this song for it reminds me that nothing is as it seems in this world.

    Sometimes it takes a mountain, sometimes a troubled sea,
    sometimes it takes a desert, to get a hold of me.
    Your love is so much stronger, then whatever troubles me, sometimes it takes a mountain, to trust you and believe.

    O Church Arise and put your armour on
    Hear the call of Christ our Captain
    For now the weak can say that they are strong
    In the strength that God has given
    With shield of faith and belt of truth
    we’ll stand against the devil’s lies
    An army bold whose battle-cry is Love
    Preaching out to those in darkness

    Our call to war to love the captive soul
    But to rage against the captor
    And with the sword that makes the wounded whole
    We will fight with faith and valour
    When faced with trials on every side
    We know the outcome is secure
    And Christ will have the prize for which He died
    An inheritance of nations

    Come see the cross where love and mercy meet
    As the Son of God is stricken
    Then see His foes lie crushed beneath His feet
    For the Conqueror has risen
    And as the stone is rolled away
    And Christ emerges from the grave
    This victory march continues till the day
    Every eye and heart shall see Him

    So Spirit come put strength in every stride
    Give grace for every hurdle
    That we may run with faith to win the prize
    Of a servant good and faithful
    As saints of old still line the way
    Retelling triumphs of His grace
    We hear their calls and hunger for the day
    When with Christ we stand in glory

  127. poohpity says:

    Chris, I did not question your honesty but your understanding that is where my trust is lost. But it does not make any difference what I think or feel anyway, my trust is a personal thing for me only.

  128. jeff1 says:

    I sometimes wonder do I make a mountain out of a molehill and it is never clearer to me that I do until I hear of another person’s trials.

    Born in the heat of the desert
    My mother died giving me life
    Despised and disliked by my father
    Blamed for the loss of his wife
    You know Lord I’ve been to a prison
    For something that I’d never done
    It’s been one hill after another
    And I’ve climbed them Lord, one by one

    But this time you gave me a mountain
    A mountain I may never climb
    It isn’t a hill any longer
    You gave me a mountain this time

    My woman got tired of the hardships
    Tired of the grief and the strife
    Tired of working for nothing
    Tired of being my wife
    She took my one ray of sunshine
    She took my pride and my joy
    She took my reason for living
    She took my small baby boy

    And this time you gave me a mountain
    A mountain I may never climb
    It isn’t a hill any longer
    You gave me a mountain this time

  129. Beloved says:

    Good morning all, I’d like to add to the other inspiring posts today this message from John Piper,

    The Window of the Heart
    Consider him who endured from sinners such hostility against himself, so that you may not grow weary or fainthearted. (Hebrews 12:3)

    One of the most remarkable capacities of the human mind is the capacity to direct its own attention to something it chooses. We can pause and say to our minds, “Think about this, and not that.” We can focus our attention on an idea or a picture or a problem or a hope.

    It is an amazing power. I doubt that animals have it. They are probably not self-reflective, but rather governed by impulse and instinct.

    Have you been neglecting this great weapon in the arsenal of your war against sin? The Bible calls us again and again to use this remarkable gift. Let’s take it out and shine it up and put it to use.

    For example, Paul says in Romans 8:5–6, “Those who are according to the flesh set their minds on the things of the flesh, but those who are according to the Spirit, [set their minds on] the things of the Spirit. For the mind set on the flesh is death, but the mind set on the Spirit is life and peace.”

    This is stunning. What you set your mind on determines whether the issue is life or death.

    I sense that many of us have become far too passive in our pursuit of change and wholeness and peace. I have the feeling that in our therapeutic age we have fallen into the passive mindset of simply “talking through our problems” or “dealing with our issues” or “discovering the roots of our brokenness in our family of origin.”

    But I see a much more aggressive, non-passive approach to change in the New Testament. Namely, set your mind. “Set your mind on the things above, not on the things that are on earth” (Colossians 3:2).

    Our emotions are governed in large measure by what we consider — what we dwell on with our minds. For example, Jesus told us to overcome the emotion of anxiety by what we consider: “Consider the ravens . . . Consider the lilies” (Luke 12:24, 27).

    The mind is the window of the heart. If we let our minds constantly dwell on the dark, the heart will feel dark. But if we open the window of our mind to the light, the heart will feel the light.

    Above all, this great capacity of our minds to focus and consider is meant for considering Jesus (Hebrews 12:3).

  130. jeff1 says:

    I am not being argumentative Beloved, but I have seen people set their mind on heaven and found them to be of no earthly good so I don’t believe that God brings me through the darkness and doesn’t have a purpose for me on earth. God is strengthening me in the darkness.

    The mind is a minefield and that is where the struggle is and as someone who suffers from mental illness I know that better than most but God will not waste my purpose on earth while this world is still in darkness of His ways and I am not wrong in thinking that it is God’s plan to establish His Kingdom on earth which means that His plan is a long way from being fulfilled when I see the state of the world today.

    God’s greatest gifts are unanswered prayers as He knows the path I have to travel.

  131. Beloved says:

    Viv no argument from me but “thinking” is encouraged. A discussion about whether the Kingdom is earthly or spiritual is too much for me to handle but your beliefs are always welcome. I know how having a MI complicates things but God is greater and I know you know that! Blessings from above to you today. Love in Christ, Joyce

  132. Beloved says:

    These verses caught my attention a bit ago. Thinking about the disagreement between Pooh and Chris yesterday I hope the Light will shine here. Truth denied is still truth.

    John 3:19-21New International Version (NIV)
    19 This is the verdict: Light has come into the world, but people loved darkness instead of light because their deeds were evil. 20 Everyone who does evil hates the light, and will not come into the light for fear that their deeds will be exposed. 21 But whoever lives by the truth comes into the light, so that it may be seen plainly that what they have done has been done in the sight of God.

  133. Beloved says:

    Viv I hear your frustrations about the turmoil all around you. I can’t think of a song right off hand that addresses political turmoil but this is what the Bible says to do about it, I like the last verse about God’s tenderness toward all. And gives purpose and cause for our waiting.

    Bible > NIV > 1 Timothy 2
    ◄ 1 Timothy 2 ►
    New International Version
    Instructions on Worship

    1I urge, then, first of all, that petitions, prayers, intercession and thanksgiving be made for all people— 2for kings and all those in authority, that we may live peaceful and quiet lives in all godliness and holiness. 3This is good, and pleases God our Savior, 4who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.

  134. saled says:

    “Christ offers us refuge, a cleft in the rock, safety in the ark,” says Steve. This is a song that we all can sing. I wrote a few weeks ago about the sins of so many famous being broadcast around the world and I said that I don’t want to know everyone else’s sins. And I don’t want mine broadcast either. Like Paul, I could say that I am the chief of all sinners. But talking about and dwelling on them would be putting the focus on me. How wonderful to know that my life is hidden in Christ, that his death means life for me. And I take to heart Steve’s urging that our lives should show this.

    Beloved shared from John Piper. Again, I had never heard of John Piper until Street quoted from him. He reinforces the idea that we can choose what we set our minds on, on things of the flesh or things of the spirit. So true, but when he goes on to say that our emotions depend largely on what we set our mind on, it made me think maybe he goes too far. I know how everyday, legal, substances such as sugar, caffeine, vitamin D, affect my emotions. And I think we don’t know how our spirit is connected to our mind and emotions.

    I work as an ed tech, a teacher’s helper. And the staff at my school recently read a book titled Getting to Got it! by Betty Garner. It is largely about helping students create the necessary structures of the mind that are needed for learning. Fascination, but I was most fascinated by her definitions of body, soul, and spirit. She says our soul consists of our mind, will, and emotions. And she says that our spirit is our life force that creates, learns, and changes. She says that the spirit enlivens and transcends the physical elements of our body and operates through the soul. This is a lot to think about, and I am still deciding if this idea is useful to me. I think we use terms like ‘set your mind’ without even knowing how our mind is connected to our spirit. I have a feeling that who we truly are is like Mart said, “The truth goes deeper than words or events.” Could we use the word “actions’ in place of events?

  135. jeff1 says:

    I like this verse too Beloved, as I know how it has been in my waiting that I have become more enlightened to God’s truths.

    In my waiting I have grown to understand that God is so much bigger than I can understand and when I think about that then I realize that hope is never lost in God as faith is so often lived out in hope of a better world to come when all shall see God’s goodness and no longer be subjected to the darkness of Satan.

    Why should the Father bother to call us His children?
    Why should the Spirit hear it when we pray?
    Why should the Father bother to be concerned with all our needs?
    It’s all because of what the Son has done

    Once we were lost out on the ocean with no direction or devotion
    Tossed about by every wind and wave
    Now we are in the world not of it and we can surely rise above it
    Because the Lord has risen from the grave

    Why should the Father bother to call us His children?
    Why should the Spirit hear it when we pray?
    Why should the Father bother to be concerned with all our needs?
    It’s all because of what the Son has done

    And we cry “Abba Father, Abba Father
    Abba Father, Abba Father”
    We cry “Abba Father, Abba Father
    Abba Father, Abba Father”

    Once we were strangers from the promise
    We were doubters worse than Thomas till the Spirit opened up our eyes
    Now He has offered us Adoption
    And we have taken up the option to His family eternally

    Why should the Father bother to call us His children?
    Why should the Spirit hear it when we pray?
    Why should the Father bother to be concerned with all our needs?
    It’s all because of what the Son has done
    It’s all because of what the Son has done

  136. Beloved says:

    Saled I’m not sure I understand the new teaching you are getting, but as far as setting your mind goes, at the very end he says Jesus is who we set our mind on. I know my emotions are greatly affected by what I eat or don’t eat or my medication for depression being at the correct dose but thankfully I still can choose what I am thinking about. Working a puzzle today I started reciting favorite scripture verses out loud and felt so surrounded by Gods loving presence. I had to open my mouth and speak of course. Memory is a wonderful thing isn’t it!

  137. Beloved says:

    Saled I think the Puritans used the Bible to teach reading out of. But helping students learn how best they can is always a challenge I know as we all learn differently. Hope her technique is helpful for you all! My sister teaches 1st grade in LA and my some of the things she has to learn to teach different ways!

  138. Beloved says:

    Viv I love that song! Thanks for sharing it.

  139. Beloved says:

    Thinking of the Rhymes of Life, my how many different versions and verses in our different lives. But the Common denominator is Christ! All for One and One for all!

  140. SFDBWV says:

    Saled is the school you work at a public or private school? If you have said before, I apologize as I do forget sometimes.

    Bubbles teaches special education at a public school and has a great deal of problems, especially from curriculums forced upon them by federal and state regulators.

    I am not familiar with Ms. Garner and whereas I find her analogy of soul, spirit and body interesting, I wonder what basis she builds her ideas on.

    Most teachers I have known who do well teaching, have told me the secret to getting through to students is by making the subject interesting to them.

    Learning can be fun at any age if the subject is presented in a way to touch the curiosity of the learner.

    Any way my hats off to you and any who teach, as it is a difficult and often thankless job.

    Looks like we are subjected to another round of bitter cold. It is just 0 degrees Fahrenheit as I write this. Yesterday’s high was 14.

    Blessings to you Saled and all on BTA today.

    Steve

  141. foreverblessed says:

    Thank ypu for your blessing Steve!
    Please pray for Mart too!

    Thank you Saled, in joining the discussion!
    Please consider doing this, as it takes a lot of time to be attached to everyone, what everybody says, and it takes time to figure out how to respond, writing deleting, writing again. And then praying about it what you wrote, listening to God what He answers. And what when you hear bno answer.
    Or to see where you write from your old man, and to
    It is one thing reading, but quite another joining the discussion.
    And then I have left out: reading what someone writes to you!

    And thanks Narrow for your encouragement!
    You gave these four Psalms to me
    And I read them! And meditated on them. And try to absorb the truth of these verses. The depth of them.

  142. foreverblessed says:

    [ Dispute Over Whose Children Jesus’ Opponents Are ] To the Jews who had believed him, Jesus said, “If you hold to my teaching, you are really my disciples. Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.”
    John 8:31-32 NIV

    Verse of the day on Biblegateway.

    I wanted to copy and past the Psalms Narrow gave on Biblegateway,and came accross that verse.

    The Lord is close to the brokenhearted
    and saves those who are crushed in spirit.
    Ps 34:18

    My sacrifice, O God, is[a] a broken spirit;
    a broken and contrite heart
    you, God, will not despise. Ps 51:17

    He heals the brokenhearted
    and binds up their wounds. Psalm 147:3

    And
    Isaiah 66:2New International Version (NIV)

    2
    Has not my hand made all these things,
    and so they came into being?”
    declares the Lord.

    “These are the ones I look on with favor:
    those who are humble and contrite in spirit,
    and who tremble at my word.

  143. foreverblessed says:

    Then you will know the truth, and the truth will set you free.
    I told you all last week that I had a great determination, NOT to think evil of anybody anymore.
    None evil, like bad intentions, guessing motives, jumping to conclusions.

    I felt so relieved after that, a great joy entered me. A joy from above. You can say, that is a gift. Given in Grace.
    But there are some conditions to that, conditions for God’s joy flowing through us.

    Also at that time, I began to feel a great love for Pooh. I had asked God about it before:
    God I want to love her, despite anything. Please help me my unloving!

    But that morning, it was Thursday morning there is was.
    And a great freedom I felt, and still feel.
    The truth shall set you free

    The truth about my ownn thinking, sticking to the negative side.
    While with God everything is possible.

    That is the truth in the Word of God.

    And I am still free!

    It feels as if a burden has been lifted from my shoulder.

    And when I decided to leave, there also came a big sense of freedom over me.
    The time that is taken up,(see what I wrote to Saled, just above).

    The words that you put together, words used for fellow christians. That takes time. reading everybodies comments carefully takes time too
    I have to ask God, what do you want me to do with my time?

    I could be an occasional visitor, as Maru is, or Regina. Or Mtman,
    (Yes, I read his advice, however Mtman, I have to do what Jesus commanded me, and so I have done)

    Please pray for this blog, and above all for Mart.

  144. foreverblessed says:

    Chris, thank youu very very much for your participation!
    You are right, it is no good to demand for an apology.
    The only thing you can do, is to show somebody the error of their ways.

    Correction as you say it is. You can correct somebody, and do that in love. It is meaningless if it is not done in love. Then you could say, it is only criticism. If you correct somebody, you dearly love them, You want to save them for more damage done to their souls.

    Interesting, Saled, that of souls and spirit.
    I have often wondered about that too: Spirit and souls, and mind, and feelings.

    May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
    1 Thess 5:23
    The Good News is, God can heal them all and as it say: sanctify them, through and through.

  145. poohpity says:

    Saled, I learned in school how every thing in our life experiences works together and effects our life in one way or another. The teacher drew a big circle then a smaller one in the center. In between the two circles he drew lines that looked like dividers or spokes. In the smaller circle, the hub, he wrote our spiritual part but at the time left it empty, then within each of the dividers outside of that smaller circle but within the bigger circle he wrote mind, physical(body) and actions. On the outside of that bigger circle he wrote the environment.

    There were lines drawn between each section with an arrow at each end of the line denoting that one part effects the others and visa versa. But at the center in the hub which holds all the parts together, it was empty until he put The Spirit within it. When it is empty people try and fill that area with all kinds of things which actually never really fill that void which often results in the wheel not turning very well, in turn makes all the other parts not work well within the whole until it is filled with the very hub of what we were created for, a relationship with God.(Luke 10:27)

    When one area is broken mind, physical(body) or actions like the spokes on a wheel, like on a bicycle, it distorts the function of the wheel but if it is held tight to the hub those areas can be worked on so that it can function again properly because the hub will do that work for the rest of the wheel. That broken wheel can not fix another broken wheel but the hub within each wheel can.(Romans 12:2 NLT)

  146. saled says:

    I teach in a very small (40 students PK-8) public school in rural Maine, the same school that I attended as a child 50+ years ago. I have worked there for the past 20 years and it saddens me to see that our school, although small, is a barometer for social conditions in our country. Our children now have such troubled home lives. The latest book study that we are doing is called Fostering Resilient Learners. I apologize for not remembering the authors. We recognize the fact that most of the learning problems in our school are due to conditions at home leading to children who are too stressed and probably tired to focus on learning. Math is not your primary concern when you were up all night after seeing Mom fall and hit her head while drinking.

    The authors encourage teachers to ‘find their cement shoes.” Sounds terrible at first, but they mean find what you really believe and stand for so that when a child loses control and causes a scene, you will not be swept away into the tornado of instantly reacting without thought. My cement shoes are remembering that this is a child who God created and can help. I don’t want to start treating them like the enemy, in spite of the chaos they may cause.

    Someone has used the word humanistic in regards to some of this teacher training that we do. I was taught that humanistic means human centered, disregarding God. But I don’t think that has to be true of what teachers take away from this training. Foreverblessed, I like your decision to not think evil of anybody. The truth, whether here on this blog or in school, like Mart says, is buried beneath words and actions. One piece of humanistic teaching that has made a difference for me is the advice to think that everyone is doing the best that they can. The parent who drinks at night has her own background and circumstances that have led to the situation she is in to day.

  147. saled says:

    That is a great illustration pooh. And hopeful. I am thinking that our spirit is the part of us that that is one with Jesus and God and each other. Separate, but connected.

  148. poohpity says:

    Jesus said, “Remain in Me(the Hub), and I will remain in you. Just as no branch can bear fruit by itself unless it remains in the vine, neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in Me. 5I am the vine and you are the branches. The one who remains in Me, and I in him, will bear much fruit. For apart from Me you can do nothing.”

  149. poohpity says:

    I have seen many children that have had their lives changed by a wonderful teacher even though their environment or home life was not conducive to growth but touched by a teacher that has helped them to believe they are more than their current environment.

  150. SFDBWV says:

    Saled I think that it is pretty cool that you get to help teach in your childhood school.

    Here in my little town the schools of my childhood were vacated and torn down years ago. A casualty of “progressive” thinking.

    Matt’s friend Mere as well as Bubbles both teach special education and both will tell you that today alcohol abuse goes right along with drug abuse in far too many of these children’s homes.

    Our national culture is sick and without editorializing too much it is because as a nation, as a people we have abandoned the Judeo-Christian example of how to live. And certainly abandoned God from everything.

    Thank you again for your efforts in the education of children.

    It has warmed up to 04.

    Steve

  151. poohpity says:

    Are schools being torn down a result of progressive thinking or due to the fact that there are no longer children around to educate? It seems parents move away because there are no jobs. If I remember right Steve you have said there was only one stop light in your town and the average age is 65 of the few people that remain. Could that be the reason there are no schools? Property taxes are what pay for public schools.

  152. poohpity says:

    I thought bubbles teaches in a regular classroom not in a special education class.

  153. jeff1 says:

    It seems that God understood that we would abandon Him although I don’t think it is so much a case of abandon but loose our way.

    God does not demand my obedience but when I look at my dad’s walk compared to my own I see that He rewards it as my dad was not following the culture and religions of his day because he was aligned to God’s truths.

    What my dad understood which I did not is that all the knowledge in the world doesn’t bring me close to God. He understood that I must walk in God’s truths and not the truth’s I have known from my religion or culture.

    He also understood that to do that required discipline and obedience which is what pleases God because it enlightens His child to His ways in a wayward world.

    God choose Israel for very good reasons and God doesn’t get it wrong.

  154. poohpity says:

    This week on Discover The Word it is about “clinging” to God.

  155. poohpity says:

    I also believe that having all the knowledge in the world does nothing for our relationship with God but getting to know Him better does. Just like any relationship we have, getting to know the other person just enhances the intimacy(closeness) between them.

  156. cbrown says:

    Good morning all.Pooh I am going to listen to “Discover the Word” after I finish this post. Thanks for the reminder. It seems that each of us has adversity that enters our life but if we “cling to God” we can be thankful for the adversity. Love in Christ.

  157. cbrown says:

    Good morning all.Pooh I am going to listen to “Discover the Word” after I finish this post. Thanks for the reminder. It seems that each of us has adversity that enters our life but if we “cling to God” we can be thankful for the adversity. Love in Christ.

  158. cbrown says:

    Sorry about the double post. I did not think it went through.

  159. poohpity says:

    To be partakers of the Divine nature we have to KNOW what that is so we can recognize it as Peter taught.

    I am writing to you who share the same precious faith we have. This faith was given to you because of the justice and fairness of Jesus Christ, our God and Savior.

    2 May God give you more and more grace and peace as you grow in your knowledge of God and Jesus our Lord.

    By his divine power, God has given us everything we need for living a godly life. We have received all of this by coming to know him, the one who called us to himself by means of his marvelous glory and excellence. 4 And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world’s corruption caused by human desires.

    5 In view of all this, make every effort to respond to God’s promises. Supplement your faith with a generous provision of moral excellence, and moral excellence with knowledge, 6 and knowledge with self-control, and self-control with patient endurance, and patient endurance with godliness, 7 and godliness with brotherly affection, and brotherly affection with love for everyone.

    8 The more you grow like this, the more productive and useful you will be in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9 But those who fail to develop in this way are shortsighted or blind, forgetting that they have been cleansed from their old sins.

  160. jeff1 says:

    To be partakers of the Divine nature we have to know God through the indwelling Holy Spirit by obedience to His will.

  161. poohpity says:

    I understand that to be partakers of the divine nature one has to filled with the Holy Spirit. For the rest I will trust what Peter says that we practice and remember that our sins have been forgiven so that will be how we treat others which is our response to knowing what God has done for us which will result in brotherly affection for everyone not just those we agree with or that fit into our little groups.

  162. poohpity says:

    I do not know of anyone who has been fully obedient to God’s will if that were even possible there would have been no need for the Cross. One might succeed in one area but to God even failing in one little thing is breaking the whole law. That is why we can not even say we are not as bad as murders because that is looking at people based on our own thoughts not on God’s standards. “But if you show favoritism, you sin and are convicted by the law as transgressors. 10Whoever keeps the whole Law but stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it” James 2:9-10 NLT One may not murder but if we hold hate in our hearts that is to God just the same as murder as Jesus taught.

  163. bubbles says:

    Saled, your post reminded me of the quote,”Be kind, because everyone is fighting a battle that we know nothing about.” So true in our work places, and so true here as well, and I forget this; I saw the trees rather than the forest. Thank you for your kind words.
    I think that quote and what you said goes along with compassion. When Jesus saw the multitudes, he had compassion on them. Imagine what He “saw” and “knew.” He KNEW every thought, He knew every circumstance. .He saw their hearts. My goodness. I wish I could have stepped back and watched Jesus with a crowd of people. I would have loved to have observed Him teaching a group.

    Off on a rabbit trail. Sorry.

  164. Beloved says:

    I wonder why a fly is drawn to honey but not to arsenic?

  165. narrowpathseeker says:

    Apparently, these days flies, animals, and all of humanity can be drawn to anything thrown out to them as honey that is really arsenic or worse….deceiving and being deceived is in full practice in much of the world. Very sad as well as very scary. Lord have mercy!

  166. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, I don’t know anyone either who is fully obedient but I am sure that God does and I’m sure He delights in that we try.

    It is in trying that God sees the desires of my heart even when my head is all over the place.

  167. Beloved says:

    I’m just shaking my head here as history repeats itself once again. How many years has this gone on now? Wow. Deja Vu they call it but here it is once again in black and white. Steve makes a lovely interesting post and you, Pooh, start questioning his statements then post Bible verses about how believers are supposed to be affectionate toward one another, as if all are supposed to treat you as family yet you act like a sinister half sister with too many grudges in her repetoir to let anyone treat her kindly much less get close enough to without getting burned. How many YEARS this has gone on. WOW.

    But God never promised life after conversion would be easy, and He sees all so once again I must trust God for His will to be accomplished as His will is always good but not always pleasant.
    Yes, LORD have mercy with my impatience. I long to see the goodness of the LORD in the land of the living, the psalmist said.

    Loving someone doesn’t mean turning a blind eye to corruption and abuse. When scripture is used to promote our own agenda or manipulate others that is corruption. I once worked as a Guardian ad Litem in a large district in my state where I represented children neglected and abused. Seeing truth beyond the manipulations of some older children as well as parent/guardians not to mention lawyers and social workers was what the court wanted when making a decision. It was difficult, dangerous, heart wrenching work. I hate seeing God’s children abused as well.

    As Habakkuk said, LORD, how long?

  168. street says:

    being kind to all, the battle continues between light and darkness. we are to abide in the light. we have no light of our own like the moon, we only reflect the light. clothed in righteousness comes to mind, a righteousness that is provided to those who love His appearing. think about loving His appearing? thinking you can not love His appearing if you are full of yourself or something else. to be empty of the the hindrance below the soil or the weeds that grow above the surface that chock out the life of the Christ and make it unfruitful. one of the things we are warned of is not to deny the power of this new creation in Christ Jesus. in other words thinking it does not have the ability to transform the sins habits and thoughts or lust of the flesh. we can not make peace with evil. Jesus came to put an end to it. we have died with Christ at the cross and take up new life with the risen Christ. take His yoke, it is easy and light, He says,” learn from Me!” He is the true light that comes from heaven. He said all that came before Him were lairs and thieves. He also said it is good that I go away, from His physical presents, then He can send His Spirit to be with all of us at the same time. we understand it is impossible to live by the law. the law is spiritual and we are of flesh. we do need the law, but more than that we need Christ and the Spirit He freely give to those who deny themselves take up their cross and follow daily. i can see why daily is necessary, bad habits are hard to crucify. coming to Christ means coming to the end of self in the hope of coming into the presents of God. new life daily.makes all things new. new every morning new mercies i see. His grace and mercy compassion fail not. put no confidence in self. He is our Champion Righteousness and Salvation. learning to love

  169. poohpity says:

    Well actually Joyce and Pearl, “Common house flies are attracted to decaying organic filth such as feces and rotting meat, whereas fruit flies seek sugary substances and feed more commonly on overripe fruit, spilled soda and alcohol.”

    bubbles and street very good points.

    Viv, God did see only One who was fully obedient that was Jesus, to the point of a sinner’s death. I think God is more pleased when we rely and depend on Him(faith) knowing that He is well pleased with us because of what Christ did. It is not the things we do that pleases God it is who we believe in, who we seek out. Hebrews 11:6

  170. Beloved says:

    Cheap grace.

  171. Beloved says:

    Psalm 133:1

    Good and pleasant. Harmony. When you Pooh cause disharmony it is neither good nor pleasant, though for you it seems to be good. Not sure why. Oh well, not my problem anymore.

  172. Beloved says:

    Rather *unity* than harmony but they are pretty close in meaning.

    I guess I’m thinking how honey is sweet good and pleasant, if I served vinegar to my guests all the time I’d be alone a lot. But of course if I believe d as you seem to Pooh that you are above all here I would continue to serve vinegar and throw any honey someone might offer.

  173. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, I witnessed my dad being rewarded by his obedience to God so you cannot change by mind that God rewards obedience and I am not disagreeing with you that faith doesn’t please God but I seen the miraculous work of God through my dad and you do not have to believe me but I know what I seen.

    How do you think God establishes His Kingdom on earth if he does not use His followers to do that?

  174. street says:

    2 Corinthians 11:3 But I am afraid that, as the serpent deceived Eve by his craftiness, your minds will be led astray from the simplicity and purity of devotion to Christ. 4 For if one comes and preaches another Jesus whom we have not preached, or you receive a different spirit which you have not received, or a different gospel which you have not accepted, you bear this beautifully.

    seems to me if one of the three mentioned above is distorted, well distortion will occur. some how some way there is a way forward. unity the red sea before us.

  175. street says:

    cheap grace? oxymoron? like good grief? grace is very expensive the most costly thing in the whole creation? and it’s free every day! the road most traveled is at the least a hard path. gravel road then followed by a paved road. nothing grows there unless there are cracks in the road. dig down to the rock. digging = obedience

  176. Beloved says:

    Yes Viv there are many scripture s that describe the blessings/rewards of being obedient to God.

    Red Sea of unity. Stormy seas today as usual.

  177. Beloved says:

    Cheap Grace as Bonhoeffer raged against when Hitler fooled the church into believing all would be well and all they had to do was follow him. The church sat back and thought God would give grace enough to overcome the tyranny, but they were overcome instead. Thank God a remnant remained, the true Church will prevail despite the setbacks, distortions, and half truths even on this blog.

  178. Beloved says:

    Salvation and fellowship are two different issues. Yet true fellowship is dependent on the salvation of each member in order to be a fellowship in Christ Jesus.

  179. street says:

    beloved i think about what happen to the country the reformation started in. in a few hundred years the enlightenment went to darkness. apostasy of a smaller order. thinking about how valuable grace is….is not the Gospel grace? can you have the Gospel apart from the Spirit and the law? paul spoke of people spreading the Gospel from bad motives and he rejoiced greatly in this! can wait to meet the flock as one, but i will have to wait, till He calls us home. till then every Word. Jesus

  180. Beloved says:

    Street I see what you are saying. No gospel no grace, what is most important in the grand scheme of this time in history? Yes Paul and Jesus also I remember weren’t concerned with the motives of the preacher but the message. Thanks for the reminder. We seem to be heading toward a dark age in the US. Preach preachers!

  181. Beloved says:

    One flock= now but not yet, lol.

  182. Beloved says:

    Street I’m suddenly thinking of the burden God has placed on Narrow to pray for the country. The Body is functioning even within this small fellowship for His purposes.

    I’m going to try harder not to get sidetracked by personalities.

  183. street says:

    Romans 6: 19 I am speaking in human terms because of the weakness of your flesh.For just as you presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness, resulting in further lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness, resulting in sanctification.

    if you are going to present your members to service, seems to me you need to present yourself to the one you serve. you serve the one you obey. thank God for Jesus! 9 If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
    The Lord is my shepherd,
    I shall not want.
    2
    He makes me lie down in green pastures;
    He leads me beside quiet waters.
    3
    He restores my soul;
    He guides me in the paths of righteousness
    For His name’s sake.

    seems to me the work is done….
    thought He slay me I will trust in Him.

  184. street says:

    25 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life; he who believes in Me will live even if he dies, 26 and everyone who lives and believes in Me will never die. Do you believe this?”

  185. Beloved says:

    It is finished, Jesus said. I’ve seen Him once and was never the same again. What He said and did for me was witnessed by several. It’s not death I fear but living. I’ve been close to death more times than I can remember and would prefer not to exist on this plane at all but His will is why I didn’t take my life years ago. I am alive and live for Him alone. But I’ve been ready to go for years. His will not mine be done now and forever. I am a miracle of God, who am I to tell Him what to do? ( I can tell you He’s not the meek and mild Savior some think He is).

  186. SFDBWV says:

    When we walk down a street or walk through a store, anywhere we see other people what do we see?

    Are they just faces in a crowd or do you see individuals with hopes, dreams, pains and sufferings?

    Their hopes and dreams, their pains and sufferings are as a result of their lives.

    They are not just faces in a crowd they are people, persons whom you come face to face with.

    Their personality is representative of who they are.

    If we bring the message of salvation and see only another face and not the person, we have failed in part to not only bring the message, but join with the person we meet in complete understanding, and to demonstrate the message personally.

    In being Christian in Word and deed we should project the person of Christ. When personalities clash it is only because one is not projecting the person of Christ.

    Did Jesus rebuke people who misrepresented the Word of God? You can bet He did (Mark 7:13 KJV).

    Think you that Jesus rebuked solely so as to be “right”? No He did so in order to begin the healing process of the individual with whom He had issue.

    This isn’t about the delivery of a message alone, this is about healing one or more among us who is sick.

    Medicine is rarely received gladly, especially by children who don’t yet realize it is for their own good.

    19 degrees and snowing.

    Steve

  187. foreverblessed says:

    Good morning everyone!
    You’r the King of my heart
    that was the song that was in my head when I woke up.
    And the words kept repeating itself!
    Stronger and stronger:
    You are good good good,,,ohhh
    and more dynamics in the music it is reapeated in my head
    You are good good good,,,ohhh

    I have no time to read all the comments, so I cannot react to everything.
    Have got to go to church, oecominical prayer for the city.
    God be with you.

    Some other time I will write down my own thoughts about:
    being pleasing to God.

  188. jeff1 says:

    Beloved, there are times when I need Jesus to be meek and mild and there are times when I need Him to be more severe and correcting depending on my walk. I can blind myself and not see Jesus’s correction if I am not in a good place myself (talking from experience here).

    God does what He has to do because I do not always do what I should and that is why my dad’s walk looked so different to mine because he had a head start in that he was raised in a stable Christian environment and that stayed with him throughout his life and so he knew God and he knew how to stay close to God and by doing so he walked side by side with God.

    What I seen was a 2-way street i.e. God holding my dad’s hand and my dad gripping it tightly while my own walk with God has been me letting go and running ahead and then coming back with my tail between my legs knowing how lost I was without Him or else I am lagging behind because my head cannot get past the past and the hurt of it which is what God knows and understands because God knows when His children need his gentleness or His harshness depending on where they are in their walk with Him.

    The miraculous work of God is that He knows His children personally.

  189. poohpity says:

    I would share my thoughts about what pleases God but like I said it does not make a difference on what I think but it does make a difference what God has to say about it. So I will just stick to His words and thoughts that are shared in scripture.

    Job pleased the Lord and look what happened to Him but the bottom line was He knew there was a God. When our lives have troubles does not mean we are not pleasing to God it just says we live in a fallen world. In fact more people who follow God closely have often even more problems than the average person because they also have to suffer from persecution and hatred by those who do not know or follow God.

  190. jeff1 says:

    My dad had the right relationship with others and that includes his enemies because he did not let go of God’s hand and that to my way of thinking is a child being obedient i.e. when you let go of your parent’s hand you no longer have the safety that they want for you and God wants to keep His child safe in a world that He understands better than they do and why He requires me to keep hold of His hand in my walk with Him so that He can direct my path and keep me from wandering into danger.

    Also it shows the father that the child is trusting Him and that closeness results in the child imitating Him so that others see the parent through the eyes of the child.

    The child becomes the eyes, ears, hands and feet of the father in a world where God is establishing His Kingdom on earth.

    It is our purpose on earth to follow in His ways so that God establishes His Kingdom which we are part of my adoption and obedience.

    If I am not doing it well it is ‘my’ wandering as God does not let go of my hand as that is how He directs my paths and keeps me safe in an unsafe world.

    Pooh, no one does obedience perfectly and God does not demand that we do but we put ourselves in peril of this world by lack of obedience and that is why God corrects our disobedience and my failure to see this is my lack of understanding what God is doing in my life which comes from ignorance of knowing God.

    The greatest lesson I learned from my dad was that he understood God and his own purpose here on earth and it is becoming rarer these days to find a person like that because the bible is not wrong and the sooner we realize that we are now living the book of ‘Revelation’
    then maybe we just might see how important obedience is to God as it doesn’t just align us to God’s will in a dark world but it keeps us safe from the enemy.

  191. Beloved says:

    Words for the Wind

    Do you think that you can reprove words, when the speech of a despairing man is wind? (Job 6:26)

    In grief and pain and despair, people often say things they otherwise would not say. They paint reality with darker strokes than they will paint it tomorrow when the sun comes up. They sing in minor keys and talk as though that is the only music. They see clouds only and speak as if there were no sky.

    They say, “Where is God?” Or: “There is no use to go on.” Or: “Nothing makes any sense.” Or: “There’s no hope for me.” Or: “If God were good, this couldn’t have happened.”

    What shall we do with these words?

    Job says that we do not need to reprove them. These words are wind, or literally “for the wind.” They will be quickly blown away. There will come a turn in circumstances, and the despairing person will waken from the dark night and regret hasty words.

    Therefore, the point is, let us not spend our time and energy reproving such words. They will be blown away of themselves on the wind. One need not clip the leaves in autumn. It is a wasted effort. They will soon blow off of themselves.

    O how quickly we are given to defending God, or sometimes the truth, from words that are only for the wind. If we had discernment, we could tell the difference between the words with roots and the words blowing in the wind.

    There are words with roots in deep error and deep evil. But not all grey words get their color from a black heart. Some are colored mainly by the pain, the despair. What you hear is not the deepest thing within. There is something real within where they come from. But it is temporary — like a passing infection — real, painful, but not the true person.

    Let us learn to discern whether the words spoken against us or against God or against the truth are merely for the wind — spoken not from the soul, but from the sore. If they are for the wind, let us wait in silence and not reprove. Restoring the soul, not reproving the sore, is the aim of our love. John Piper

  192. narrowpathseeker says:

    I am trying to understand many different things that seem almost as right as they seem wrong. Maybe this analogy will help others to understand my dilemma of sorts.
    Let’s say I have a bible teaching neighbor with a wife and 3 kids. He was somewhat arrogant and sometimes downright rude, but I struggled with my dislike for him because he was a Christian and someone who was strongly focused on scripture that calls for us to think well of others, had influenced me to focus on the same. The neighbors’s rude behavior grew progressively worse and he never really apologized to anyone. If he did it was accompanied with a nasty attitude that he was just pacifying the victims of his mal behavior because he was bullied into it…that HE was the victim of their bullying. Again, I don’t want to offend and focus on thinking ill of this man…I need to love him.
    One day I hear 4 gun shots and later on I see my neighbor digging deep holes in the back yard. His wife and kids are never heard from again. When I start thinking ill of the man again…I remember that I am suppose to look for the good in a person…OK..I guess I will think that he sent his family on a wonderful relaxing cruise and stayed home to dig for gold in his backyard hoping to find enough to pay for their trip.

    Weeks pass and another neighbor disappears. Soon after I see the bible teacher neighbor digging for gold again. What a nice man I think….trying to find gold to help find the missing neighbor… more neighbors disappear and this wonderful man keeps digging for gold hoping to help pay for the search and rescue missions for his missing neighbors.

    Then one day I look out the kitchen window and this neighbor is standing 20feet away with a 30/30 aimed right at me. The bullet rips right past my ear and I collapse on the floor from fright. When I come around, I find a neighbor had seen him fire the gun into my house and called the police. The man is outside telling the police he was trying to save my life because he saw a poisonous spider crawling up a back wall in the kitchen. He demands an apology from the neighbor who called the police and from me for standing too close to his bullet.

    OK….is it time to realize that this man is a ruthless and unremorseful danger to anyone still living or am I suppose to think how kind he is for digging for gold to help his neighbors? This may be a ridiculous analogy but does it show how we can take things to one extreme or another and that we should probably pray to find that fine line in the center of right and wrong? Am I so wrong to see two sides to a matter and think that different scriptures may apply to different situations? Lord have mercy on me remains my foremost prayer and probably will till the day I die, for I doubt that I will ever be able to think good things of people who are visciously cruel and unremorseful.

  193. Beloved says:

    Serial killers belong in prison but can they convert and preach the gospel? Yes! And can they lead others to Christ for salvation? I’m sure Chris can say amen to that.

  194. Beloved says:

    I’ve read that some convert only to escape hell and don’t really care about changing yet they still receive gifts of preaching teaching mercy etc. I think we have to be careful of the expectations we place on others, the gospel is the change agent as far as life and death. I like how Piper describes windy words. We tend to think in terms of a blohard, eager to speak but slow to listen/learn. Not sure it’s the same but Jesus and Paul both did say as long as one preaches the gospel let them be. It’s what’s most important. It’s our mission, not just to be safe and secure in Jesus’s arms but sharing the wonderful good news that salvation is available to all!

  195. poohpity says:

    There are many who claim to be a Christian but are cruel and unremorseful and there are many who do good things and act kindly but are not Christians. I guess the dilemma would be not to judge the relationship of another with God but only look within at our own that would be like what Mart asked, “When do we feel more alive or blessed than in those moments when we are allowed to see that we really don’t live by what we can do for ourselves or for one another” but by what God has done for us, individually(but by every word of provision spoken into our lives—on the breath of our God).

    There are those who receive God’s offer of salvation but nothing in their life changes because they want to control rather than turning that control over to God and becoming submissive to His leading. They still want to lead. So was accepting His salvation only words or as Paul put it carnal Christians still ruled by the flesh? Romans 8:5 NLT

  196. Beloved says:

    I think we need to focus not on whether someone does good things but on the gospel. Is the truth of the good news being broadcast? All the rest is dross that Burns up in the fire of sanctification.

  197. Beloved says:

    Do I want to hang out with a serial killer? Probably not knowing change does not happen overnight. Bars and guards are there for a purpose. Those specifically gifted as Chris is are given the grace to enter prisons, mental hospital s and the like.

  198. poohpity says:

    It seems that God’s desire for each of us is for each person to act right or justly, show mercy and walk humbly with Him. In a vital union or close relationship or an intimate relationship with God and the results will be seen in how we live our lives carefully looking within so we don’t look around at others but up to God alone.

  199. phpatato says:

    Beloved, part of your comment this morning at 9:37….Serial killers belong in prison…has me thinking about capital punishment. Do they belong in prison? Not to open a can of worms, it just got me mulling that over once again.

  200. poohpity says:

    Thank God that Jesus came and spent time with sinners, well those who realized they were sinners. It is only those who realize they are sick that need and seek a Doctor.

  201. Beloved says:

    Jesus said be wise that means looking around for danger. We are told to blindly follow. There are serial killers out there!

    Pat my opinion is against legalized killing. There are those who can handle them. Those who can’t should find other jobs not judge.

  202. Beloved says:

    Oops we are NOT told to blindly follow.

  203. cbrown says:

    There are about 1,500,000 inmates in the U,S in prison with a sentence of over a year. Very few are serial killers. In fact we know most of the true serial killers by name due to the media coverage and movie/tv. Most people in prison have made bad decisions which allow them to be deceived by the devil. There are also a portion in prison that could receive medication that would help them with mental issues. “It is not God’s will that any should perish but that all receive salvation”. Love, Chris

  204. Beloved says:

    Thanks Chris.

  205. Beloved says:

    Galatians 5:16
    New Living Translation

    [ Living by the Spirit’s Power ] So I say, let the Holy Spirit guide your lives. Then you won’t be doing what your sinful nature craves

  206. cbrown says:

    A big problem in prison is the devil has convinced inmates with the help of society that they are criminals and that is all they will ever be.If they have Hope in God he can do anything.

  207. Beloved says:

    Galatians 3:28 is hope for all of us!

  208. Beloved says:

    Society and Christians also can put labels on people that’s why its so important to find our identity in Christ first and foremost then it doesn’t matter how others view or categorize us. John Piper talked about the “therapeutic age” we live in. Therapy uses labeling to receive funding from insurance companies but has carried over into the mainstream culture to explain abhorrent behavior, often justifying uncomfortable reactions to put blame on others. I for one am quick to label others when they make me uncomfortable. Like pooh for instance. I need to stop doing this and remember what O. Chambers says, “Pooh is perfect in Christ Jesus, as am I Steve mart pat pearl forever viv Chris street sa!ed Regina Gary mtmn anyone that lays a keystroke here.”

  209. foreverblessed says:

    Chris, I hear you, I will join you in praying for the reformation of the prison system. for the mentally problematic people.
    And I pray: against the killing of real hardened unrepentant criminals, by killing them we sent straight to hell. They especially should NOT be killed, but be trained and disciplined and taught the nature of Grace, be given work to do, (but still in a safe place where they cannot harm anybody.) ( I know, this costs a lot of money so a tax system is good spent if it is used for such a programm) But the benefits are great! Less criminal offences, more valuable workers for society, etc etc.

  210. cbrown says:

    5For Moses writes that the man who practices the righteousness which is based on law shall live by that righteousness. 6But the righteousness based on faith speaks as follows: “DO NOT SAY IN YOUR HEART, ‘WHO WILL ASCEND INTO HEAVEN?’ (that is, to bring Christ down), 7or ‘WHO WILL DESCEND INTO THE ABYSS?’ (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead).” 8But what does it say? “THE WORD IS NEAR YOU, IN YOUR MOUTH AND IN YOUR HEART”—that is, the word of faith which we are preaching, 9that if you confess with your mouth Jesus as Lord, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved; 10for with the heart a person believes, resulting in righteousness, and with the mouth he confesses, resulting in salvation. 11For the Scripture says, “WHOEVER BELIEVES IN HIM WILL NOT BE DISAPPOINTED.” 12For there is no distinction between Jew and Greek; for the same Lord is Lord of all, abounding in riches for all who call on Him; 13for “WHOEVER WILL CALL ON THE NAME OF THE LORD WILL BE SAVED.”

    14How then will they call on Him in whom they have not believed? How will they believe in Him whom they have not heard? And how will they hear without a preacher?

  211. foreverblessed says:

    Jeff, thank you for your thoughts on 9.06 am, that says a lot to me!
    Beloved, thank you for the Words of Wind,by John Piper, 9.08 am, thoughts on Job 6:26

    Narrow, your analogy is a very good thought! I will muse on them, and come back on it later.

    Beloved, the question of Pooh yesterday about the schools in his town closing, is not a bad question at all!

  212. foreverblessed says:

    I was saying this morning I would come back with my thoughts on being pleasing to God, and in Church Proverbs 16:1-15 was read.
    So there you are, His Word:

    When the Lord takes pleasure in anyone’s way,
    he causes their enemies to make peace with them. Prov 16:7

    Kings take pleasure in honest lips;
    they value the one who speaks what is right. Prov 16:13
    (And I believe this also counts for the King of Heaven)

    17 Her ways(wisdom) are pleasant ways,
    and all her paths are peace.
    18 She is a tree of life to those who take hold of her;
    those who hold her fast will be blessed.
    Prov 3:17-18

    Do not quench the Spirit. 1 Thess 5:19

    Does God love us any less when we quench the Spirit? do not quench -is- do not frustrate the Holy Spirit.

    If we walk in the flesh, we frustrate the HS:

    So I say, walk by the Spirit, and you will not gratify the desires of the flesh. Gal 5:16

    (from Biblegateway today)

    Hebrews 12:1-13

    4 In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood. 5 And have you completely forgotten this word of encouragement that addresses you as a father addresses his son? It says,

    “My son, do not make light of the Lord’s discipline,
    and do not lose heart when he rebukes you,
    6 because the Lord disciplines the one he loves,
    and he chastens everyone he accepts as his son.” (prov 3:11,12)
    7 Endure hardship as discipline; God is treating you as his children. For what children are not disciplined by their father? 8 If you are not disciplined—and everyone undergoes discipline—then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all.

    We have to unblock our pipes, and let the water flow.

    Get rid of the :

    “Then when we have cast out from our own souls the evil spirits of bitterness, rancor, unfriendliness, jealousy, and have forgiven all those who have injured us, or, a much harder task, whom we have injured, we shall be better prepared to receive the outpouring of the divine blessing which we all profess to desire.” End of quote by Morgan, see former topic”

    So pleasing, is more like: Being better prepared to receive the outpouring of the divine blessing.

    Can we block that outpouring?

    You bet we can. That is why the writer of Hebrews says:

    In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.
    Hebrews 12:4

    Even if we are strugling against sin, we still have to learn to love more, even the hardest criminals. Or grow in understanding of the backround of hardened criminals, and understand why they do as they do (I think of the book; the Shack by William Young)
    In others words we have to be sanctified.

    May God himself, the God of peace, sanctify you through and through. May your whole spirit, soul and body be kept blameless at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ. 1 Thess 5:23

    (God will sanctify us, after we have been saved, He sanctifies us)

    Hebrews 6:9-12 I give this verse, because God remembers what we have done, “He will not forget your works”

    Even if we can only do them when we are attached to the Vine.

    We have to unblock our pipes, and let the water flow.
    But now I am repeating myself.

  213. narrowpathseeker says:

    Could someone please tell me what this means, “but by every word of provision spoken into our lives—on the breath of our God?” Actually what I am stuck on is “every word of provision” what would that be exactly? is that to live by EVERY WORD God provided an individual…or by His word…the gifts of the HS that He Provided any given individual? I guess that it is the word “provision” that has me stuck

  214. street says:

    God’s Timing
    thinking about the growth of a little spout. a tiny seed planted long ago. how slowly it grows. patiently waited on, painfully so. a table before enemies. yet it grows slow and sure. even, not fast enough for the little spout. yet time marches on. yes the harvest is coming. yet we are told the field is ripe for the harvest, even now. fruitful and abundant and living. we are told the work that was begun is finished long ago. sure true and good. completed. a work of God lest any man should boast, save in our LORD.

  215. street says:

    narrow it comes from Jesus first temptation in the wilderness where the devil imply that Jesus is not the Son of God and asks Him to prove it by turn stones in to bread. Jesus replies that man shall no live by bread alone, but by every Word that proceeds from the mouth of God.

  216. jeff1 says:

    Forever, I am thinking of how my dad stayed clear of playing God while the rest of us were doing just that.

    I learned from that and what my dad taught me was that by staying close to God he had His truth’s and not his own or his enemies.

    Remember it is God’s place to judge evil as I am way out of my depth here and it wasn’t until I waded in thinking I knew better that I found out my dad had the wisdom to know that God knows best when it comes to evil and not I.

    My dad treated my enemies as he would have wanted them to treat him but he did not underestimate that it was God who knew their hearts and was their rightful judge when it come to their deeds.

    I am God’s servant on earth, I am not His equal.

  217. street says:

    to believe trust observe act on every word. to abide in Christ or the light no longer in darkness. in order to do this you must come to the end of yourself chamber’s calls this a white funeral. Jesus calls it a denial of self and taking up the your cross daily. paul talks about considers himself crucified with Christ and now Christ lives in paul.he now lives by the Spirit of Christ that is in Him. paul was in love with Christ and was faithful. he would not love another or let anything come between himself and Christ. when i say “not love” another it comes from the idea that loving Christ seems like hate to the world, from their perspective, but nothing could be further from the truth. we are told several times in the Old Testament that a man believes God and is justified before God by his trust in God, not by works or a paycheck. love is free and unmerited. how can we love God when He first loved us when we were unlovable? could it be by walking with God first and loving them that are unlovable? what ever you did to the least of my brethren you did it to Me.

  218. Beloved says:

    Forever you mentioned the question I asked Pooh yesterday. I had to look it up then did some housework thinking about that question and I came up with the same thing street already posted. It takes time, God’s time not mine so I will not let myself get exasperated when it happens again. I could ask Pooh how long she is going to continue to challenge Steve knowing he does not like it but maybe she doesn’t even know. Not a good idea anyway to discuss politics here or for sure sparks will fly!

  219. Beloved says:

    Oops busybody comes to my mind, I’m done discussing other posters and their behavior.

  220. narrowpathseeker says:

    Joyce, Steve is a very intelligent man as well as very Wise. I believe that for the most part he ignores anything written to antagonize, generate hatred, division, misery, and/or anything else unpleasant and unfruitful, thus all the efforts are wasted.

    Thank you Street… again..it is the word provision thrown in there that confused me…

  221. Beloved says:

    Yes, thank you Pearl.

  222. poohpity says:

    “Who am I” by Casting Crowns

    Who am I, that the eyes that see my sin
    Would look on me with love
    And watch me rise again?
    Who am I, that the voice that calmed the sea
    Would call out through the rain
    And calm the storm in me?

    Not because of who I am
    But because of what you’ve done
    Not because of what I’ve done
    But because of who you are

    I am a flower quickly fading
    Here today and gone tomorrow
    A wave tossed in the ocean
    A vapor in the wind
    Still you hear me when I’m calling
    Lord, you catch me when I’m falling
    And you’ve told me who I am
    I am yours

    Not because of who I am
    But because of what you’ve done
    Not because of what I’ve done
    But because of who you are

    I am a flower quickly fading
    Here today and gone tomorrow
    A wave tossed in the ocean
    A vapor in the wind
    Still you hear me when I’m calling
    Lord, you catch me when I’m falling
    And you’ve told me who I am
    I am yours

    I am yours
    I am yours
    Whom shall I fear, whom shall I fear?
    ‘Cause I am yours
    I am yours

  223. poohpity says:

    God spoke His provision into our lives, He spoke who we are to Him, He spoke creation that provides all our needs, He spoke healing into our lives, just to name a few things He has spoken provision into our lives. All God has to do is speak to anything and it is so the winds and they are calm or to the raging sea and it stops.

  224. poohpity says:

    King of the World– Natalie grant

    I tried to fit you in the walls inside my mind
    I try to keep you safely in between the lines
    I try to put you in the box that I’ve designed
    I try to pull you down so we are eye to eye

    When did I forget that you’ve always been the king of the world?
    I try to take life back right out of the hands of the king of the world
    How could I make you so small
    When you’re the one who holds it all
    When did I forget that you’ve always been the king of the world

    Just a whisper of your voice can tame the seas
    So who am I to try to take the lead
    Still I run ahead and think I’m strong enough
    When you’re the one who made me from the dust

    When did I forget that you’ve always been the king of the world?
    I try to take life back right out of the hands of the king of the world
    How could I make you so small
    When you’re the one who holds it all
    When did I forget that you’ve always been the king of the world

    Oh, you set it all in motion
    Every single moment
    You brought it all to me
    And you’re holding on to me

    When did I forget that you’ve always been the king of the world?
    I try to take life back right out of the hands of the king of the world
    How could I make you so small
    When you’re the one who holds it all
    When did I forget you’ve always been the king of the world
    You will always be the king of the world

  225. poohpity says:

    For those who read God’s word, He speaks daily through it to our hearts and minds. Ever read something in the bible or when you go to church and the Pastor teaches from His word and you experience that that word was meant for you at that time. Read the comments on Our Daily Bread and see how many people say that devotion was meant for them that day because of something they are going through. It was published months in advance but God knew that that one person would be reading it that day and it touches their heart down to their very soul. God speaks to those who are looking forward to hearing from Him.

  226. poohpity says:

    Or hearing a worship song and it does the same thing.

  227. poohpity says:

    God will find a way to tell you what you mean to Him and how much He wants you in His life and how much He cares about everything we go through.

  228. SFDBWV says:

    Mart says that “truth goes deeper than words or events.”

    The truth is that behind our words and our actions are motives. Motives that drive our words and our actions.

    Paul lays out in some detail the motives of the world/flesh (Galatians 5:19-21 KJV) as well as the motives of the Holy Spirit (Galatians 5:22-23 KJV).

    What we share here is driven by one or the other. Read for yourselves and let the Holy Spirit divide good and evil in your sight, in your “knowing” in your discernment.

    Let God be your conscience and let God direct your actions.

    05 degrees after a 5 inch snow yesterday and overnight.

    Steve

  229. narrowpathseeker says:

    A few words of Wisdom generated from His Love can be so powerful and calming…soothing…..Thank You Steve ..while we are to be loving we are not called to close our eyes to evil…

  230. jeff1 says:

    When I look back at my dad’s life I can see why his relationship was right with others even his motives and his observations of his enemies were right.

    I think you last sentence says it, Steve, as I believe that is what he did because my dad was a thoughtful man in that he put his brain into gear before his mouth and when he did speak he was mindful of God while the rest of us were caught up in the darkness of the times.

    Until I have the right relationship with God I cannot have the right relationship with others including my enemies and why God asks us to put Him first.

    My dads first thought is what would God want me to do and if the matter was complex and he was ensure then he would hold his tongue rather than add fuel to the fire that was already burning out of control.

    My dad knew God better than anyone I knew because he was in the habit of not just seeking God but listening and acting as he knew God wanted him to, because he knew God as ‘he’ had a close relationship with Him.

    While the rest of us were blaming i.e. counting the offences IRA verses UVF my dad was staying close to whom he needed to so that he would not be playing God but doing what was right in his sight.

    If I am blind in this world it is lack of obedience and not lack of belief or knowledge.

    I should know because I am the one who listened to the other religious leaders of the day believing that they knew better than my dad when he said they should take of their collars because they were misleading their flock.

    I know by the state of our country today who was right and who was wrong and it was not my dad’s own righteousness but it was the miraculous work of God in His obedient child.

    Thank you Steve, perhaps you will understand why I see you as so much like my dad.

  231. poohpity says:

    street, you said earlier that the term “good grief” was on oxymoron but have you considered that grief is good when we are grieved over our flesh and sin which if anyone is aware of those actions it is good because that grief turns us to the Lord in repentance? Think of one of the actions of the flesh is idolatry, idolizing people, places and things.

    I know that most look at the actions motivated by the flesh and say I do not do adultery, wild parties or drunkenness but do I have hostility, idolatry, outburst of anger, quarreling, selfish ambition, believe in sorcery which can include superstitions or envy,etc.? Gal 5:19-21 NLT

    Or do I see the actions of one filled with the Spirit and His work in my life? Gal 5:22-23 NLT which is not my work but it is what the Spirit of God produces in one’s life who is lead by Him.

    Then the bottom line is; “24 Those who belong to Christ Jesus have nailed the passions and desires of their sinful nature to his cross and crucified them there. 25 Since we are living by the Spirit, let us follow the Spirit’s leading in every part of our lives. 26 Let us not become conceited, or provoke one another, or be jealous of one another.” Gal 5:24-26 NLT

    Since I am guilty of the things of the flesh I am grieved but it is a good grief because it is what causes me to seek and cling to God. Knowing that the flesh is at war against the Spirit I have to rely on God and that is good.

  232. poohpity says:

    Yes not recognizing those things in my life by agreeing with God about sin and the flesh it does grieve the Holy Spirit because He knows if we do not see what He sees then we will never understand grace, then we will not show it to others and that makes God very sad because it shows we are not thankful nor grateful for what Jesus did.

  233. jeff1 says:

    God never asked us to understand grace He extends it to us as a gift as he does to all who are seeking Him. He asks us to stay close to Him so we do His righteousness and not what is our own righteousness in a dark world.

    No one has the truth but God and why each of us must stay close to Him to do His righteousness and not our own or that of our cultures or religion of the day.

    When I wander it is my own righteousness I am following and not God’s but God doesn’t take His gift of Salvation from me as it is not His way.

    The way I thank God is to trust and obey Him so that I am a light in an otherwise dark world.

    You are trying to put words into God’s mouth that aren’t there Pooh and I know all about that because I’ve done it myself.

  234. poohpity says:

    Viv, who told you God doesn’t want us to understand grace? Then you are saying that God does not want us to understand the significance of the Cross!! It is more than obvious you attribute so many things to me saying them even when I give you the scripture references to show it is not me but what we are taught from God through His word. But how, one would ask, would they know if they have never even read the scriptures for themselves or believe when those scriptures are shared on here?????????? They will not even know God by the glimpses we do have because they spend no time with Him.

    You keep saying you trust and obey God yet you have NO forgiveness in your heart for those who have offended you, so please maybe spend more time getting to know Him than accusing me of not knowing Him. I will never say I know God thoroughly because my mind is very finite and limited but I have been in a close relationship with Him for 29 years and after spending that much time with someone we do learn a little bit about them, wouldn’t you say?

    I am not putting words in His mouth, He is putting His word in my mouth.

  235. poohpity says:

    How can anyone stay close to someone they do not even know? That is like saying I have a best friend but I spend no time with them, I do not know their favorite color, or food, or their hearts desire or their character qualities or their secrets, or when they had surgery or when they celebrated their birthday but I call them my best friend. That sounds more like an acquaintance than a best friend and many treat their relationship with God like an acquaintance rather than an intimate friend.

  236. street says:

    2 Corinthians 7:10
    For the sorrow that is according to the will of God produces a repentance without regret, leading to salvation, but the sorrow of the world produces death.
    Romans 2:3-5
    3 But do you suppose this, O man, when you pass judgment on those who practice such things and do the same yourself, that you will escape the judgment of God? 4 Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance? 5 But because of your stubbornness and unrepentant heart you are storing up wrath for yourself in the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God,
    Romans 2:4
    Or do you think lightly of the riches of His kindness and tolerance and patience, not knowing that the kindness of God leads you to repentance?
    2 Corinthians 2:14
    But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumph in Christ, and manifests through us the sweet aroma of the knowledge of Him in every place.
    2 Thessalonians 3:6
    Now we command you, brethren, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you keep away from every brother who leads an unruly life and not according to the tradition which you received from us.
    2 Timothy 2:14
    Remind them of these things, and solemnly charge them in the presence of God not to wrangle about words, which is useless and leads to the ruin of the hearers.
    2 Timothy 3:15
    and that from childhood you have known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
    Revelation 2:20
    But I have this against you, that you tolerate the woman Jezebel, who calls herself a prophetess, and she teaches and leads My bond-servants astray so that they commit acts of immorality and eat things sacrificed to idols.

    13 Jesus answered and said to her, “Everyone who drinks of this water will thirst again; 14 but whoever drinks of the water that I will give him shall never thirst; but the water that I will give him will become in him a well of water springing up to eternal life.”

  237. jeff1 says:

    Why does it bother you that I don’t study scripture Pooh, God connects with me in ways I never expected him to through my dad and through other very good Christians I have known in my life time and also through those who would not even consider themselves to be Christian but behave in a way that is so gentle and compassionate that it is easy to see that they are God’s children.

    God knows my heart Pooh and he knows the suffering in this country and how it has disturbed people and He is a compassionate God, and at least I am honest with God about my struggle and I am seeking closeness to God and just because I don’t do it your way doesn’t make my way wrong it just makes it different

    Your accusations cannot hurt me because I was damaged a long time ago Pooh, my enemies damaged me but they cannot separate me from God and nor can my ignorance of the bible because I am a child of God and that’s what you are jealous of Pooh, that God could love a child who has not spent the time you have getting to know Him because you don’t understand God’s grace Pooh as that is what is amazing about God’s grace he loves people I find it hard to love and that includes myself.

    His love is inclusive but this world is blind to that and it is not because Christians do not have the knowledge but because they do not keep their faith simple as my dad did which was to trust and obey.

    Trust and obey for there is no other way than to be happy in Jesus than to trust and obey.

    When we walk with the Lord
    In the light of His word,
    What a glory He sheds on our way;
    While we do His good will,
    He abides with us still,
    And with all who will trust and obey.

    Trust and obey,
    For there’s no other way
    To be happy in Jesus,
    But to trust and obey.

    Not a shadow can rise,
    Not a cloud in the skies,
    But His smile quickly drives it away;
    Not a doubt or a fear,
    Not a sigh or a tear,
    Can abide while we trust and obey.

    Not a burden we bear,
    Not a sorrow we share,
    But our toil He doth richly repay;
    Not a grief or a loss,
    Not a frown or a cross,
    But its blest if we trust and obey.

    But we never can prove
    The delights of His love,
    Until all on the altar we lay;
    For the favour He shows,
    And the joy He bestows,
    Are for them who will trust and obey.

    Then in fellowship sweet
    We will sit at His feet,
    Or we’ll walk by His side in the way;
    What He says we will do;
    Where He sends we will go,
    Never fear, only trust and obey.

  238. poohpity says:

    Viv, it does not bother me in the least that you do not read God’s word, that is between you and Him but what does bother is you accusing me that when I share anything from scripture you say it is me talking because if you knew it came from the bible you would not accuse me of that. Why does it bother you so much that I read my bible rather than leaving it sitting on the shelf gathering dust? After all bibles have the purpose of reading and many people gave their lives just so we could.

    Romans 10:17

  239. poohpity says:

    There is not one person on here I have anything to be jealous of dear one. I have never been a jealous person anyway. I think it is great when people are able to teach God’s word because they have studied, showing their selves approved(2 Tim 2:15) and I admire those who are close to the Lord and have great faith, which seems to be sorely missing from this site except for a couple.

  240. foreverblessed says:

    Ouch,

  241. foreverblessed says:

    Jeff, die you hear that the singer of the Cranberries died suddenly, last Tuesday?
    The song Zombie, I had my thoughts about the words
    I thought it morbid, and I also thought: what dark thinking for the band to write such a thing.
    Talking about NOT thinking evil about other people!
    I am sorry that I did. God forgive me!

    Now that the news came that Dolores O’Riordan has died, now I read the stories about the band.
    They are an Irish band!
    I never knew that!
    And the song Zombie was written, about two teenagers that died because of a bomb attack.

    Now the words of the song make sense to me:

    Another head hangs lowly
    Child is slowly taken
    And the violance caused such silence
    Who are we mistaken
    But you see, its not me, its not my family,
    In your head in your head, they are dichting
    With their tanks and their bombs, and their gunstig
    In your head, in your head, they are crying

    Chorus
    In your head, in your head
    Zombie, zombie, zombie, eh eh
    What’s in your head, in your head
    Zombie, zombie, zombie eh eh

    Another mother’s breakin heart is taken over
    When the violance causes such silence
    we must be mistaken
    Its the same old theme since 1916
    In your head they are still fighting
    With their tanks and their bombs ….

  242. foreverblessed says:

    When I now listen to the song, I have to cry!
    About you, it tells what is going on in your head!
    It is a song about the Irish people, and their suffering!

    ( Did you hear about Dolores, not die you hear)

  243. foreverblessed says:

    May God bring healing in your head, and may He bring healing in your country!
    In Jesus powerful name I pray!

    Name above all names!

  244. foreverblessed says:

    Dolores also sang the title song for the film:
    The Passion of the Christ.
    If anyone of you do not know her.
    She has an intense voice, a lot of passion in it.

  245. foreverblessed says:

    Gunstig = guns

  246. foreverblessed says:

    Dichting = fighting

    Oops, another auto-correct that I didn’t see!

    The song is like Lamentation.
    Outside, the sword bereaves,
    inside, there is only death.
    Lamentations 1:20
    I am in torment within,
    and in my heart I am disturbed.

    Yet in that biblebook are some pretty strong encouagements too!

    Lam 3:21-24
    His compassion is new every morning!
    Lam 3:25-57

  247. narrowpathseeker says:

    Jeff1/Vivian….I haven’t much time, but wanted to give you a supportive hug. I believe you have recognized one of the most prevalent ugly attributes of one that needs to put others down all the time and craves constant attention and 1st place whenever in the room. Just because one lies and denies their sin vehemently does not mean they are innocent…it more so just highlights another sin of false pride.. Please don’t go to battle nor let it bother you in any way when accused of anything by such a person..just pray for them and leave them to God. The more we argue with such the deeper the hole they dig for themselves.

  248. jeff1 says:

    I read about her death, Forever, and thought how young at 46 but I would not have listened to her music because I would not have understood it and it would seem dark to me and I have seen so much of the dark side of life that I listen to music that encourages me to the light.

    When I wandered into the darkness I left God’s safe keeping and God rest my dad he knew this but just like any headstrong child he could not get me to see the damage it would do to me.

    My dad knew God from he was a child and he knew how to stay close to Him and he did that by examining himself, confession when finding himself wanting and talking to God about it.

    A simple faith that had the desired results because he remained faithful to God throughout his own troubled life as he knew where to go and what to do to get the will and strength to do it.

    I have no problem with you reading your bible Pooh, but I lived with a community of people who were unlike my dad in that they knew their bible Chapter and verse but that was were it ended because I found to my disturbance that they did not know God.

    My dad understood that two wrongs don’t make a right and he could see exactly what was happening here in that each side believed God was on their side when the truth was very different.

    An eye for an eye which is biblical is what people where doing here and calling it God’s justice but my dad was not blinded by his culture or his religion because he knew God and he did so by a simple faith.

    I could have saved myself a disturbed mind if I had listened to his wisdom but I did not.

    What I am saying to you Pooh, is that it is very easy to deceive yourself if you have convinced yourself you have the truth and I have found that in my own walk it is others who knew God better than I who have kept me on course when in my weakness I may have wandered as is my weakness to do.

    When I have found myself wanting it has been other mature Christians whom God put in my life that saved me i.e. when my son’s gambling was out of control a 90 year old whom I visited prayed when I wasn’t in a good place for prayer and my son’s life took a sudden turn and I was speechless before God and that woman (now deceased) had a simple faith and every morning she would say a rhyme to keep her safe in Jesus and I loved that woman because she taught me more about God which is what I needed as my faith was faltering.

    In my experience people choose the parts from the bible that suit their beliefs and I have lived with people who do that and the outcome is disturbing and you only have to read the history of my country and you will understand why it disturbs me.

    My dad taught me that God is good all the time and he never tried to justify killing by quoting an eye for an eye from the bible and that to me is a man who knows God better than I do and why I listen to others with his simple but effective faith in knowing God in a way that I envy because I haven’t come close to knowing God in that way.

    Forever, I know the effectiveness of prayer when the person who is praying truly knows God and I am thinking of the lady I mentioned and how her faith saved my son and why your prayers mean so much because they come from a heart who knows God which is what makes prayer effective and why when I am in a bad place I find I cannot pray because I am angry with God and that is not where I want to be Forever and why your prayers mean so much both for myself and my country as I so want that healing that you are praying for.

    You are so right, Forever, I cannot get past the bombs and the bullets in my head and I am fearful because of lack of progress on the political front that history may go on repeating itself because the madness in my head won’t let me believe differently which is why I do not listen to news or read papers but fill my head with music, listen to those I trust knows God which is why I come to this blog in the hope that God will rid my mind of all that haunts me.

  249. poohpity says:

    Viv, I do know the truth and He has set me free. Do you or are you still being held captive?

  250. poohpity says:

    I also know people who know the bible chapter and verse but they still do not know God. I however do not know chapter and verse but I do have a very small glimpse of God because I want a intimate relationship with Him and I know who I am to Him and that is all that matters to me and I listen for Him to speak healing into my life but unless I know I need to be healed I probably would pay no attention to what He has to say to me.

  251. poohpity says:

    Just think about the amount of time that could be spent getting to know God better instead of trying to get me to see what y’all think is wrong in my life which most often is a reflection of what is actually wrong in your own lives. Trust that the Lord does not hold back from using His word as a scalpel(Hebrews 4:12-13) to go down deep into my life to cut things out. I do not use it as a window to show others what is wrong in their lives that because that is between them and God but as a mirror to look at mine to see what He sees and often it is discouraging but He also shows me His grace which by His love that is what changes me.

    I share God’s word to let people know that in spite of all that we do God still loves us. We please Him by just wanting to get to know Him. That He pursues us and is willing to accept us just as we are. Also that God is the source of anything Spiritual in our lives it is nothing we can do on our own so bragging shows that we are focused on self not God. God does not have favorites and is the same as He ahs always been, just to name a few things. All and all God just wants us to know how much we mean to Him and has done all it takes so we can have an intimate relationship with Him that is what the bible teaches from the OT to the NT and who wouldn’t want to know that?

  252. jeff1 says:

    Narrow, thank you for the hug, it is where God is in the kindness that people show us.

    I must stop getting myself into a tizzy but in my head that is much easier to say than do but I don’t believe God gives up on us even when we struggle not to give up on ourselves and I am learning from yourself and others here how I can allow others to disturb my peace when I am not focusing on the one who gives me that peace.

    I seem to have the understanding of what I must do but the lack of focus in doing it, is, what disturbs my peace in the only ‘ONE’ who can give it.

    I am weak, but Thou art strong;
    Jesus, keep me from all wrong;
    I’ll be satisfied as long
    As I walk, let me walk close to Thee.

    Refrain:
    Just a closer walk with Thee,
    Grant it, Jesus, is my plea,
    Daily, walking close to Thee,
    Let it be, dear Lord, let it be.

    Through this world of toil and snares,
    If I falter, Lord, who cares?
    Who with me my burden shares?
    None but Thee, dear Lord, none but Thee.

    When my feeble life is o’er,
    Time for me will be no more;
    Guide me gently, safely o’er
    to Thy Kingdom shore, to Thy shore.

  253. Beloved says:

    Foreverblessed I am praying you and yours are ok after the terrible wind storm.

  254. Beloved says:

    Viv I always enjoy reading your posts. You are so kind even when you share a different opinion. I see God in your life and it is because of your struggles I think. The more we struggle the closer to God we become. Thank you for being here sharing your life. I’m blessed.

  255. Beloved says:

    Pearl Steve Saled I hope you didn’t get buried in all the snow!

  256. narrowpathseeker says:

    We are fine here in NC, Joyce…Thank you for your concern. While it is the coldest year and the most snow we have seen in our collective time here(10 degrees a week ago and about 3 inches of snow today) I think it may be a tropical paradise in comparison to you, Pat, Steve, and I believe (Saled in ME?)….. so we are counting our Blessings. I hope everyone else is doing well.

  257. narrowpathseeker says:

    I see that Steve hasn’t posted today…I saw yesterday’s post and got mixed up…I hope he is alright…..he has sooooo much to do on a regular basis….without the cold and snow.

  258. narrowpathseeker says:

    Vivian…that is one of my most favorite songs…thank you…

    Pearl

  259. Beloved says:

    Yes I was wondering about Steve also. My sister teaches in northern Louisiana and she posted a pic of the 2in of snow they got this week that closed schools for 2 days! Some things are relative I guess. Their roads were too slippery to manage. She chuckled as she grew up in Mn.

  260. Beloved says:

    I think we’ve gotten used to the extreme cold but black ice on roads has created many many accidents around here. Nothing you can do for it. I’m staying in mostly.

  261. foreverblessed says:

    Wow, Beloved, that you noticed it! You are so kind to ask!
    I am up late now, our son came to visit for a long weekend.
    But there were no trains riding.
    First time in history, that all trains stayed stuck. Because of damage to the power lines.
    During the evening they got some trains running. But not all the way to our town, do my husband had to drive half an hour to pick him up.
    It was a strange storm, quick, and severe.

    And it is much too mild for the winter. I guess you guys get all the cold. It has happened before.

  262. foreverblessed says:

    And thank you Jeff, for your words! And your testimony, about the praying lady! The closer I grow to God, the more effective my praters!
    That really encouraged me to stay focussed on praying for you and the Irish. That song of lament has touched my heart for your people.
    And I pray for your head!
    God bless you all!

  263. foreverblessed says:

    The closer to God, the more effective my prayers
    ( not praters )
    But with a heart filled with love for those I am praying for.

  264. Beloved says:

    Forever I am thankful you are ok! I read there were 4 deaths from the storm. Trains not running! Wow!

  265. jeff1 says:

    I have just come back from a concert with Charlie Landsborough and when I heard this song the words seemed to speak to me and I asked myself do I share my dads idealistic view of life that was the reason my mum said he had too high expectations of himself and others.

    Darling its easy to blame someone else for your problems
    Finding relief in pointing your finger else where
    Sooner or later there’s something you just have to face up to
    You can’t spend your whole life pretending it just isn’t there.
    You’re playing the part of an untarnished heart that’s been broken
    The unwilling victim of so much deception and lies
    When you’ve unravelled the nuts from the words you have spoken
    Just take a look at yourself with those innocent eyes.
    You are no angel and yet you are expecting perfection
    Compare me to saints when you’re trying to establish my worth
    All I am asking of you is a change of direction
    I’ll be waiting to love you if ever you come down to earth.
    You are no angel and yet you are expecting perfection
    Compare me to saints when you’re trying to establish my worth
    All I am asking of you is a change of direction
    I’ll be waiting to love you if ever you come down to earth.
    I’ll be waiting to love you if ever you come down to earth.

  266. Beloved says:

    Viv I think as followers of Christ we always strive to do our best, because Christ is the best this life has and He wants us to do good to others, even unbelievers! Feebly put but your dad had a wonderful influence in your life that’s certain and only God puts that kind of drive in us. You want goodness to prevail on earth and so do I. We do what we can in our own way God has given to us without having to be godless and cynical. There’s no cynicism in the gospel! That’s my take on your question anyway.

  267. Beloved says:

    Viv the way your mum talked and the way your dad talked sound so far apart. Was it confusing for you?

  268. SFDBWV says:

    It is simply marvelous how we here in this little group find ourselves genuinely concerned about each other. I am humbled that some were concerned about my absence in commenting yesterday.

    Bless you all for your caring.

    It looks as though we will have a few days not only without snow, but actually above freezing. That will give all of us in the snow zones a little relief from dealing with it.

    But it is the trials of life that make life worth living and through such that we grow in character. The most blessed of us all are those of us who are given the ability to see God in all of our surroundings and circumstances.

    Life can be a pretty bumpy road sometimes, but we do not walk alone.

    One of the most familiar Psalms to any, Christian and non-Christian alike is Psalms 23:1-6 KJV.

    Here in very few words God tells us who is in control and not to worry.

    The rod and staff are in there to explain how God sometimes has to be tough, but only for our own good.

    In another passage it is written, “Spare the rod and spoil the child.”

    In West Virginia prisons are still called “a house of correction”. When we refuse correction and rail against authority we have a very difficult life. It is the same with our relationship with God. If we will not be corrected and only see it as criticism, we rail against God who by and through His Body of believers He speaks and works.

    As a result nothing changes. We stay as the seed that found no soil to grow in, the stony rock.

    Everyone can see the difference between good rich soil and a desolate stony surface.

    The Word of God has been written on the hearts of His children so that instinctively His children know His will, His desire, and how then to live.

    The Jewish leaders who learned to hate Jesus knew the Scriptures very well, yet the meaning and the heart of the Scriptures were not etched into their hearts and as a result the Word was just words and their actions reflective of it.

    Our actions show whether or not we just know Scripture or live them.

    The breath of God Mart speaks of is that indwelling in us that separates us from the world.

    Choose to accept God and His rod and His staff will comfort you.

    19 degrees and clear.

    Steve

  269. poohpity says:

    The Jewish leaders did not know God or they would have recognized Jesus. They hated Jesus because Jesus was teaching them that they were nothing but blind guides and whitewashed tombs, looking good on the outside when they were filled with filth and corruption on the inside. The Jewish leaders wanted honor, praise and glory not pointing people to God but to their own self righteousness, the very ways of the world of self glorification. So of course they hated Jesus because He revealed their true motives and true heart condition but anyone who truly wants to know God would see that as a good thing falling to their knees, worshiping Him but they wanted instead to get rid of Him so He would not expose them for who they really were.

  270. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Beloved, I believe confusion as a child was the biggest barrier in my development and then the troubles started when I was too young to deal with it so that added to my confusion.

    As Steve says life is a bumpy road for most of us. I think the key is to remember that God knows best how to navigate the bumps and get us on to level ground.

    I liked this song which I heard at the Charlie Landsborough concert I attended so I will share and hope you all enjoy it to.

    I met a man at the airport
    Going home cause his brother had died
    I tried to soften his sorrow
    He smiled and me and replied

    We’re all passin through
    Do unto others as you’d have done to you
    Do what you can
    You’re fellow man is travelin too
    We’re all passin through

    I keep his words in my memory
    They keep my heart from consent
    It’s a lesson for livin
    I’d pass on to all that I meet

    We’re all passin through
    Do unto others as you’d have done to you
    Do what you can
    You’re fellow man is travelin too
    We’re all passin through

    No one knows how long they’re journey may be
    It’s not how far but how well you have traveled
    That God will see

    The old man smiled and departed
    Our brief encounter ended
    He left the seeds of a memory
    And words I’ll never forget

    We’re all passin through
    Do unto others as you’d have done to you
    Do what you can
    You’re fellow man is travelin too
    We’re all passin through

    We’re all passin through
    Do unto others as you’d have done to you
    Do what you can
    You’re fellow man is travelin too
    We’re all passin through

    We’re all passin through
    We’re all passin through

  271. poohpity says:

    The Holy Spirit living inside us is our means of an intimate relationship with God, the people of the world or flesh do not want to even know God much less have Him walk beside them through this life because they are satisfied with hiding their true nature from themselves and those around them. God exposes it all and we are naked and unashamed because we know that when we are exposed then He can begin His marvelous work within us.

    So just like the Pharisee in Luke 18:9-14 NLT boasting of all the good things he did that sounded godly but the tax collector who just beat his chest admitting who he truly was will be the one brought into God’s kingdom.

  272. Beloved says:

    “Yes though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death You are with me.” We never cease walking through the valley, it’s knowing He’s with me that’s a great comfort and the way through today and every day is by simply doing for others what I would like done for myself. Justice, mercy and overall grace.

  273. Beloved says:

    Steve and Viv I love the Spirit you’ve brought to the blog today. I’m greatly encouraged, thank you.

  274. Beloved says:

    Zephaniah 3:17 English Standard Version (ESV)
    17 The Lord your God is in your midst,
    a mighty one who will save;
    he will rejoice over you with gladness;
    he will quiet you by his love;
    he will exult over you with loud singing.

  275. street says:

    The Rhymes of Life

    2 Corinthians 11:
    12 But what I am doing I will continue to do, so that I may cut off opportunity from those who desire an opportunity to be regarded just as we are in the matter about which they are boasting.

    what does this verse have to do with the rhythm of life?

  276. Beloved says:

    The rhythm of life street? Bumpy.

    Thank God we have a Savior!

  277. Beloved says:

    John 10:27

  278. poohpity says:

    street, because Paul would not stop sharing the word of God although He ran into many false teachers leading people to believe what they teach but Paul was not about to stop sharing what is true. Sometimes because people are well liked they can teach just about anything and others believe them when the truth is not in them at all so they lead others astray with their hooey and reject what is really true and the person telling it.

  279. poohpity says:

    The rhyme or rhythm of Paul’s life is still happening today that seems to be why he cautioned us to beware.

  280. SFDBWV says:

    Often I have told you how the animals I observe from my Kitchen window resemble people, at least in attitude and even personality.

    Even though I have seen this before repeated many times, yesterday had me fixed on a small deer herd of about 10 deer that kept returning to my neighbors feeding area.

    I don’t know what the problem is, but my neighbor never put out any corn yesterday at all, not all day.

    The deer have a definite habit of begging for food. They come running down off the hill out of the timber to the feeding spot and mull around heads lowered sniffing the ground for corn.

    When there is none they seem confused and walk around in the small area looking for the corn they are used to having delivered for them.

    The first time in after some time they keep looking toward the house and bob their heads as if to say “hey remember us.” When no one came out very reluctantly and slowly they walked off in single file toward the west.

    Only to loop around and come right back in within about 20 minutes. Repeating the activity.

    Each time though they grow more aggressive and each time they begin biting and kicking each other as if to get them out of the way.

    I watched them repeat this over 6 times yesterday.

    This morning when I looked in on BTA I was reminded of the deer as we also come to the feeding area and expecting a new subject are disappointed and a little confused as what to do next. So we just keep looping around looking in and hoping for some “corn”, just like the deer.

    Mart I hope you enjoy my little story, best to just pull down the window blinds and turn up the TV and enjoy the day.

    38 degrees windy with an icy coating of 4 inches of snow yet on the ground.

    Be blessed all today.

    Steve

  281. poohpity says:

    Maybe Mart is waiting to see if anyone gets this topic before he moves on since the majority of the comments are about something else entirely different.

    street, I also thought about Paul telling the truth and what happened to him because of sharing it in 2 Cor 11:23-26 so he had to live by the provisions of God to just make it to the next place to share the Good News. God always provided for him.

  282. Beloved says:

    My devotional this morning: What is precious to God?

    Peter 3:4 Parallel Verses. … 1 Peter 3:4, ESV: “but let your adorning be the hidden person of the heart with the imperishable beauty of a gentle and quiet spirit, which in God’s sight is very precious.”

  283. Beloved says:

    Steve I like your story about the deer. The struggle for survival is strong indeed, one of the many rhythms of life going on every day. Not always straight and narrow but God given life is worth battling over as I see the Chickadees also fighting at the bird feeder here. I don’t think God wants us fighting over anything, but to trust in Him and turn up the TV when needed- like knowing when to walk away. Lol

  284. Beloved says:

    None of us here can even begin to compare our lives to Paul’s life. Yet his zeal never shamed, criticized or put down anybody. Gentle and quiet spirit. Precious.

  285. jeff1 says:

    Listening to the beautiful words of this song helps me dream again.

    IF ONLY I HAD WINGS

    If only I had wings
    I’d let the air release my mind
    And leave my worries far behind
    And let the silent oceans of the sky’s
    Wash every grain of sorrow from my eyes
    If only I had wings
    I’d fly beyond the rainbows door
    In search of heavens stardust shore
    Where long forgotten dreams
    will all come true
    Beyond the mellow oceans tender blue
    I’m flying,
    up where the eagle reigns
    I’m flying,
    leaving behind my chains
    if only I had wings
    upon the breeze I’d lay my soul
    And let God’s hand take full control
    And sing my heart’s surrender to his love
    Forever to the moon and stars above
    I’m flying,
    up where the eagle reigns
    I’m flying
    leaving behind my chains
    And let the silent oceans of the sky’s
    Wash every grain of sorrow from my eyes
    if only I had wings
    if only I had wings

  286. jeff1 says:

    This song give me hope for the future and reminds me how I should not regret the past but rather leave the past where it belongs.

    I do not count what I’ve lost, what I’m losing
    I’m a traveller with no fixed abode
    All of the gifts spent yesterday refusing
    May well be waiting further down the road

    I need to take every chance I was given
    But if luck’s a lady she never showed
    There’s more to life than just making a living
    My life is waiting further down the road

    Chorus:
    Further down the road
    I can see the light
    Further down the road
    Everything ‘ll be all right
    Further down the road
    I will be free
    Further down the road
    Heaven waits for me

    All these years chasing smoke-rings and rumour
    Looking for seed that had never been sown
    Old Father Time has a strange sense of humour
    He’ll hear me laughing further down the road

    Chorus:
    Further down the road
    I can see the light
    Further down the road
    Everything ‘ll be all right
    Further down the road
    I will be free
    Further down the road
    Heaven waits for me

    No looking back
    I’m moving on
    I’m having no regrets
    What’s gone is gone

    Chorus:
    Further down the road
    I can see the light
    Further down the road
    Everything ‘ll be all right
    Further down the road
    I will be free
    Further down the road
    Heaven waits for me

    Further down the road
    I can see the light
    Further down the road
    Everything ‘ll be all right
    Further down the road
    I will be free
    Further down the road
    Heaven waits for me

  287. Beloved says:

    The Rhymes of Life, vs the Rhythm of the Kingdom

    2 Peter1

    Bible > Cross Refs > 2 Peter 1:3

    ◄ 2 Peter 1:3 ►
    Context
    3seeing that His divine power has granted to us everything pertaining to life and godliness, through the true knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence. 4For by these He has granted to us His precious and magnificent promises, so that by them you may become partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world by lust. 5Now for this very reason also, applying all diligence, in your faith supply moral excellence, and in your moral excellence, knowledge, 6and in your knowledge, self-control, and in your self-control, perseverance, and in your perseverance, godliness, 7and in your godliness, brotherly kindness, and in your brotherly kindness, love. 8For if these qualities are yours and are increasing, they render you neither useless nor unfruitful in the true knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. 9For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins. 10Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble; 11for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you.

  288. Beloved says:

    The rhythm of God in the rhymes of life, I think.

    The reason we are all being disciplined is that we will know God is real. As soon as God becomes real to us, people pale by comparison, becoming shadows of reality. Nothing that other saints do or say can ever upset the one who is built on God. O. Chambers

  289. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Beloved, I didn’t realize it back then but that is what I noticed about my dad is that he was undisturbed when others around him were not and he had God’s truths because he kept his mind and heart on God and his reward was confidence in God regardless of how difficult his circumstances.

    He trusted and obeyed God without questioning because he knew God while I did not and so I wanted to know ‘why’ when it is faithfulness that pleases God and not doubting Him which is what I was doing.

    God’s discipline is so that I see Him in a wayward world which is God being faithful even when I am not.
    I wander from God because of lack of faith disturbing my own peace with Him.

    Great is Thy faithfulness, oh God my Father;
    There is no shadow of turning with Thee;
    Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not;
    As Thou hast been, Thou forever wilt be.

    Great is Thy faithfulness! Great is Thy faithfulness!
    Morning by morning new mercies I see.
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me!

    Summer and winter and springtime and harvest,
    Sun, moon, and stars in their courses above
    Join with all nature in manifold witness
    to Thy great faithfulness, mercy and love.

    Great is Thy faithfulness! Great is Thy faithfulness!
    Morning by morning new mercies I see.
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me!

    Pardon for sin and peace that endureth
    Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide;
    Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow,
    Blessings all mine, with ten thousand beside!

    Great is Thy faithfulness! Great is Thy faithfulness!
    Morning by morning new mercies I see.
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided;
    Great is Thy faithfulness,
    Great is Thy faithfulness,
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me!

  290. street says:

    manna = what is it?
    the Word of God

    not to be foreign to His children.

  291. foreverblessed says:

    That is sooo right Street.

    Lets live by:
    ” every Word of Provision spoken into our lives by the Word of God”

    And then I read the scripture that Beloved gave, last night(12.11 pm, for me that is in the evening)
    2 Peter 1:3-11

    Just look at it! If I really believe every Word it says, and live by it!
    As it says, increasingly!

  292. Beloved says:

    Man does not live by bread alone but by every word of God that proceeds from the mouth of God…. I bought a new devotional, Voices From The Past: Puritan Devotional Readings and was reading about Hebrews 11 and how by faith (in the future) the saints of old did not trade sell or give up their rights to the heavenly Kingdom to come. At the same time I’m reading I’m thinking about my favorite Sunday treat- pecan caramel roll and my trip to the bakery coming up. It occurs to me no matter how much my mouth drools and my heart beats faster thinking about it that my future in heaven is going to be so much better than what my soul desires at the moment. Think of it! Better than pecan caramel, chocolate or whatever stirs your senses! In a while I will be satiated and I’ll be thinking of something else but the Word of God and His promises are Everlasting! Not a temporary fix. I will keep the Word of the LORD and His statutes ever before me.

  293. bubbles says:

    The picture that goes along with Mart’s thoughts is lovely. It’s amazing how God is so creative and how His creation brings worship and praise to mind when I see all the things God has made. Small little daffodils and colt’s foot that blooms in cracks of a sidewalk. . sunrises, sunsets, alpenglow on mountains, rain, thunder, wind, even snow sparkling in the winter sun. . . the periodic table of elements. . God is great. Getting out in the woods in winter when thaw happens is special. There is a park nearby that has waterfalls and a creek. When thaw happens, water will come out of the ground everywhere. Little waterfalls form on the mountainside and it’s beautiful and always makes me feel good. Nothing smells better than being in then woods when it’s wet from rain or winter thaw. It’s amazing how God created the woods and then the SMELL that comes from all that! I haven’t been this winter, but am remembering last year this time.

  294. jeff1 says:

    A song from Sunday morning reflections. Thinking how I have to recognise in my own heart that I am lacking to see the need of Christ and once I do then I must trust and obey Him to sustain Him in my heart.

    It was a time when my life was such a struggle,
    An endless search that led nowhere for me.
    My restless soul was lost in sin and struggle, then I met Jesus and found the missing piece.

    Chorus:
    I found a piece that the world could never offer, the chain of darkness give way to sweet relief.
    He filled a part of my heart that stood so empty.
    Oh, when I met Jesus, I found the missing piece.

    It was a time when my life was not worth living,
    I couldn’t calm those storms inside of me.
    And now I rest and know that I have been forgiven.
    Thank God for Jesus, He is the missing piece.

    Chorus:
    I found a piece the world could never offer, the chains of darkness give way to sweet relief.
    He filled a part of my heart that that stood so empty.
    Oh, when I met Jesus, I found the missing piece.
    When I met Jesus, I found the missing piece.

  295. Beloved says:

    Amen Viv!

    1932
    Charles Weigle

    No one ever cared for me like Jesus

    I would love to tell you what I think of Jesus,
    Since I found in Him a friend so strong and true.
    I would tell you how He changed my life completely;
    He did something no other friend could do.

    Chorus
    No one ever cared for me like Jesus;
    There’s no other friend so kind as He.
    No one else could take the sin and darkness from me;
    O how much He cared for me.

    All my life was full of sin when Jesus found me;
    All my heart was full of misery and woe,
    Jesus placed His strong arms about me
    And He led me in the way I ought to go.

    Chorus
    No one ever cared for me like Jesus;
    There’s no other friend so kind as He.
    No one else could take the sin and darkness from me;
    O how much He cared for me.

    Ev’ry day He comes to me with new assurance;
    More and more I understand His word of love.
    But I’ll never know just why He came to save me,
    Till someday I see His blessed face above.

    Chorus
    No one ever cared for me like Jesus;
    There’s no other friend so kind as He.
    No one else could take the sin and darkness from me;
    O how much He cared for me.

  296. Beloved says:

    Bubbles thank you for the walk in the mountains, it’s beautiful.

  297. narrowpathseeker says:

    Bubbles, that was a beautiful portrayal of some of God’s incredible Creation. It is a gigantic piece of it to us and yet just like a grain of sand in the entire scheme of things He has created!! Thank you…I can fully relate to your enthusiasm of God’s Super greatness in His creation. I could watch His many varied creatures run through the trees, bushes, and plants all day without ever being bored.

  298. phpatato says:

    Beloved,

    No one ever cared for me like Jesus was my Mom’s most favourite hymn. I remember seeing a tear roll down her face as she sat and played that song. I was a little girl and I didn’t understand why she was crying. It made me sad to think that she was sad. As I grew up, I realized why the tear. She wasn’t sad at all, she was so very grateful for the wonderful Friend she knew and held inside her heart.

    Thank you for the warm memories. I love that song.

    Pat

  299. jeff1 says:

    Thinking how my weakness has been inherited from my mum and brother but no matter what doubts Satan’s plants in my mind, Jesus has a piece of my heart where as He grows all else fails in comparison and then when I am secure in Him I will have the right relationship with others as nothing will disturb the peace I have in knowing He has me by the hand.

    When I think of the believers in my life who inspired me it was not those who talked the talk but those who walked the walk because they made knowing Jesus look easy when it is not easy but they knew Jesus so intimately that nothing could or did shake their faith which is what pleases God.

    John 20:24-29 Now Thomas (also known as Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. So the disciples told him, “we have seen the Lord!”

    But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

    A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” Then He said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”

    Thomas said to Him, “My Lord and My God!”

    Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

  300. SFDBWV says:

    Ignorantly I installed updates on my computer the evening before last when I shut it down. It has taken the last two mornings just to get things somewhat straightened out.

    The computer is definitely for me a love hate relationship.

    Along with a difficult computer I have had a disturbance in my spirit. I don’t know what or why, just that something seems out of kilter and something is just not settled.

    Sadly when I dip into such moods reading Scripture becomes distant and sometimes even cold. I know from experience that things will improve and this low ebb vanish. It is just that usually surrounding them are some life change that isn’t always welcome.

    It most likely is just the winter weather that’s got me down, like bubbles I would love to be able to enjoy a walk in the good earth and smell the urgings of a coming spring.

    In the dark morning when I fed the critters, this morning I heard a new song. Most likely still a sparrow, but with an unfamiliar song. A pleasant strong voice making its presence known.

    The Holy Spirit also makes His presence known and always bears witness of Jesus in all things. The Holy Spirit is making known something in my spirit and preparing me for it. This I know.

    I pray all is well with each of you.

    40 degrees, foggy and wet.

    Steve

  301. Beloved says:

    Steve the darkness of winter has got me down also. These bodies with all the chemicals that run them, minerals vitamins and such so easily get upset in the dull dark days of winter with often little sunlight that’s so needed for healthy functioning. I’m praying the dark forboding will pass quickly per God’s will.
    I have learned to be content whatever the circumstances, said Paul. Yes, even though I can’t get outside as much I spend more time reading scripture, listening to good preachers/teachers online and extra cleaning jobs around the apt. We are all so blessed aren’t we! Our all sufficient God enables us to live under any and all circumstances. Thank you Jesus.

  302. phpatato says:

    It might well be the mid-winter blahs.

    47 days till we spring ahead; 57 days will spring. I know the sun is getting warmer because even on cold days the snow melts on the roof facing south. It’s the little things such as that, that keeps me hopeful.

    Will be lifting you up in special prayer today Steve.

    Pat xo

  303. Beloved says:

    Reading scripture becomes cold… Thank you Jesus our faith and trust in you even though our eyes may fail your faithfulness remains. I’m reminded of how early Christians didn’t have a copy of the new testament to carry around, they were living out their faith day to day. Sometimes it’s the same for us, most times, actually. Bless you Steve today and always. Joyce

  304. Beloved says:

    Pat we are enjoying greatly temps in the upper 20’s F for several days after a long period of negative temps. It feels like spring and I am wearing my fall spring jacket for a change. But alas it’s only January and know the worst months are ahead as far as snow and depression. There’s a lot to be said for living one day at a time isn’t there. I know Viv knows a song about that!
    Blessings to you and those adorable grandsons,
    Joyce

  305. Beloved says:

    Pooh haven’t heard from you hope all is ok. Joyce

  306. narrowpathseeker says:

    Pat, thank you for sharing your precious memories of your Mom. I instantly love and respect people that cry real tears of gratitude, tears of happiness for others, tears of sadness for others, and sometimes tears just in awe of God’s beautiful creation. I know when I stood on the shore of the North Sea in Germany where my great grandparents, grandfather, and great uncles departed for the USA. I cried…I don’t even know why..they all passed on before I was even born. Maybe it was gratitude…I never in my life thought I would ever travel Europe in person! I knew it was a gift from God.

    Steve, I will be joining Pat in special prayers for you. I didn’t know your spirit was unsettled. I thought you were waiting for a new subject. I am very much hoping that the Lord just wants us to exercise our gift of prayer to reconfirm to us the power of united prayer.

  307. jeff1 says:

    Here is the song Beloved, I try to do this since I became unwell becaue I cannot change the past and it stops me worrying about the future and it was my tendency to let my mind race and I became so over anxious that I lost all concentration and peace of mind so I have to take one day at a time for to be able to focus at all.

    I’m only human I’m just a man
    Help me to believe in what I could be and all that I am
    Show me the stairway that I have to climb
    Lord for my sake teach me to take one day at a time
    One day at a time sweet Jesus that’s all I’m asking from you
    Give me the strength to do every day what I have to do
    Yesterday’s gone sweet Jesus and tomorrow may never be mine
    So for my sake teach me to take one day at a time

    Do you remember when you walked among men
    Well Jesus you know if you’re looking below its worse now than then
    Pushing and shoving crowding my mind
    So for my sake teach me to take one day at a time
    One day at a time sweet Jesus that’s all I’m asking from you
    Give me the strength to do every day what I have to do
    Yesterdays gone sweet Jesus and tomorrow may never be mine
    Yes just for my sake teach me to take one day at a time

  308. Regina says:

    Good Evening, All

    Wow! 300+ comments on this blog topic! On the one hand, I’m excited to extract wisdom from the comments on this blog topic, but, on the other hand, it’s gonna be a tedious journey to read 300+ comments! I’ve been away for awhile, friends, because I had to return to work after my holiday break… I have a healthy envy of those of you who are retired and able to keep up with the comments on all of the blog topics! Also want to mention that I share the first name with the person featured in today’s Our Daily Bread devotion! I’m excited, on some level, because that’s never happened before… Well, getting ready to read the comments on this blog topic… Ever heard the quote, “The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step”?

    69 degrees F (real feel 65) in my neck of the woods…

    p.s. foreverblessed, I read in the news that there was a terrible wind storm in your neck of the woods, and I pray that all is well with you and the rest of BTA blog family…

    Love to all,
    Regina

  309. street says:

    (300+)5=1500/60=25
    thinking of 300 hundred voice messages left at a physicians office over one weekend. if he gives each message 5 minutes, some will be repeats, he might get the all taken care of by the end of the day, 24 hours.

    thinking how God has no problem with the request of His children, even insisting they come to Him in time of need. we all need to learn this in all cases. the fun part is finding joy in Him at all times and all circumstances.
    Hebrews 12:2
    fixing our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of faith, who for the joy set before Him endured the cross, despising the shame, and has sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.

    God gives humans great value, it is found in Him. He is not ashamed to call them brethren.

    Hebrews 2:11
    For both He who sanctifies and those who are sanctified are all from one Father; for which reason He is not ashamed to call them brethren,

    God is Salvation Isaiah 45:22

  310. Beloved says:

    I was just thinking about why I hesitate to ask God for things when His track record for me is 100% thus far. James said ask and God will not criticize you for asking, yet I tend to flinch instead of surrendering sometimes. I guess it’s remnants of PTSD and echos from the voices of my past that rattle around sometimes but I do fight it with the precious Word of God as Viv fights with song. No matter what good things people say about me or what I’ve accomplished they never really take hold, like Jesus love and the presence of the Holy Spirit has. It’s a battle!

  311. Beloved says:

    He is not ashamed to call them brethren…very cool. I guess I can’t dirty Him since He cleaned me up!

  312. street says:

    “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”
    thinking how satan started his assault of deception with God, even though it was not God who was speaking.

    we are told to seek first the rule of God in all things. if confused, time would be well spent in seeking Him. God loves those who wait on Him and seek His counsel for the purpose of obedience.

    Psalm 27:14
    Wait for the Lord; Be strong and let your heart take courage; Yes, wait for the Lord.

    Proverbs 28:5
    Evil men do not understand justice, But those who seek the Lord understand all things.

    Psalm 40:16
    Let all who seek You rejoice and be glad in You; Let those who love Your salvation say continually, “The Lord be magnified!”

    Zephaniah 3:8
    “Therefore wait for Me,” declares the Lord, “For the day when I rise up as a witness. Indeed, My decision is to gather nations, To assemble kingdoms, To pour out on them My indignation, All My burning anger; For all the earth will be devoured By the fire of My zeal.

    Lamentations 1:10-12
    10
    The adversary has stretched out his hand
    Over all her precious things,
    For she has seen the nations enter her sanctuary,
    The ones whom You commanded
    That they should not enter into Your congregation.
    11
    All her people groan seeking bread;
    They have given their precious things for food
    To restore their lives themselves.
    “See, O Lord, and look,
    For I am despised.”
    12
    “Is it nothing to all you who pass this way?
    Look and see if there is any pain like my pain
    Which was severely dealt out to me,
    Which the Lord inflicted on the day of His fierce anger.

    Isaiah 55:1-3
    “Ho! Every one who thirsts, come to the waters;
    And you who have no money come, buy and eat.
    Come, buy wine and milk
    Without money and without cost.
    2
    “Why do you spend money for what is not bread,
    And your wages for what does not satisfy?
    Listen carefully to Me, and eat what is good,
    And delight yourself in abundance.
    3
    “Incline your ear and come to Me.
    Listen, that you may live;
    And I will make an everlasting covenant with you,
    According to the faithful mercies shown to David.

  313. foreverblessed says:

    Not keeping up o the comments gives you time for other things. But when you come back, like regina, then 300 comments, wow. Just skip them!

    But I was also thinking about Steve, although I believe he shared with us some of the struggles he has. How brave! I was thinking Steve, is that mood, that you described, not similar to what Beloved srote: Words of the Wind?
    A mood that will go.

    But I was also thinking about this topic: That welive in the Truth of Gods Word!

    The Truth of God’s Word!
    Ohh, that we would grab the truth of God, and believe it, and have faith in them!
    When we have accepted Jesus as Lord of our hearts, and have turned from our old ways, we are save in His Shelter. Nothing can move us. Only when we allow doubts, fear in our minds and dwell on them.

    I was listening to Joyce Meyer last night, about Hope.
    She has some pretty heavay suff to say:
    The battlefield of the mind!
    Grab your thoughts, and discipline them into the truth of the Word of God;
    Positive words: WE are saved, we who believe in Christ, and follow His leading! Or, who say: Lord I want to follow You, please Help me to follow You!

    It is our stretching out to Jesus, seeking Him…

  314. foreverblessed says:

    He who dwells in the shelter of the Most High
    will rest in the shadow of the Almighty
    Psalm 91:1

  315. foreverblessed says:

    That is an awesome truth!
    I want to dwell on that thought!

  316. foreverblessed says:

    This lunchtime I will be in the old Church of our town, for the weekly prayer. Giving to God all the prayers people have written in the prayer book.

    Psalm 63 is on the reading list, and Proverbs 17:16-28

    You, God, are my God, earnestly I seek you; I thirst for you, my whole being longs for you, in a dry and parched land where there is no water.
    Psalm 63:1
    (A psalm of David. When he was in the Desert of Judah.)

    I was thinkiong Beloved, David, was thirsting for water, and yet, he graved more for God.
    That is a great example for us.

    You were telling about your breakfast, yearning for delicious food. As I am yearning for it too.
    Then I do think: Do I yearn more for God’s closeness to my soul than that I am graving for earthly food?

    Let my soul yearn as David did, for being close to Jesus!

  317. SFDBWV says:

    Years ago when Mart used to participate with us in the conversation we wondered why it is that superstition stays with us. Even after we are filled with The Holy Spirit and educated against such things.

    But the truth is that they do.

    We thought that perhaps it is because of its being encoded into us via ancestors through DNA.

    Viv talks about her mom being superstitious, so was my mother. Mom was also very Christian, but those Scotch and Irish roots stayed with her as well as the influence of her mom and grandparents.

    She would throw salt over her shoulder if spilt and never hand anyone a knife or a pair of scissors, to name a couple and heaven forbid walking under a ladder or breaking a mirror.

    I know it all sounds silly, but we still feel something other-worldly sometimes in a sunrise or sunset, in a song or a word and yes in a mood.

    Jesus told the Jewish leaders that they keep looking for a sign, but that for them the only sign they will get is the sign of Jonah. Of course we now know He met His death, burial and resurrection. They did not.

    The thing is that these men of faith looked for some sign from God. I think we all still do the same.

    In fact if we are honest, we pray for it.

    So in every movement around us, in every sunrise or sunset, in every big or little event we strain to look for God’s hand in the matter.

    We wait, we listen, we expect.

    When we look deeper we are not all that different from the superstitious people of the past or present. We just put God in the unknown factor and feel better for it.

    45 degrees and rain.

    Steve

  318. jeff1 says:

    Its when I am seeking God from the bottom of my heart that I feel so close, but why don’t those moments last, and I usually find it is because I am distracted by the things of this world and I ask myself is it possible to be so heavenly that I am no earthly good.

    It seems that knowing God is with me does not satisfy my thirst for heaven, and perhaps, that is what God wants me to know, that heaven can wait, as the journey teaches me not only about God Himself but about people I meet on the way and most of all it teaches me about myself in that I was so focused on keeping God’s commands that I developed an indifference to the world around me and so I am finding that God knows best when it comes to teaching His child His ways and forever is a long, long, time in God’s economy.

    Without Him I could do nothing
    Without Him I?d surely fail
    Without Him I would be drifting
    Like a ship without a sail

    Without Him I would be dying
    Without Him I?d be enslaved
    Without Him life would be worthless
    But with Jesus thank God I’m saved

    Oh Jesus, oh Jesus
    Do you know Him today
    Please don’t turn Him away
    Oh Jesus, my Jesus
    Without Him how lost I would be
    Without Him how lost I would be

  319. Beloved says:

    Very nice to wake up to all the thoughtfully encouraging words and scripture this morning. This world is a very strange and lovely place I think. The breath, Spirit of God flowing this way and that upsetting the status quo of wars, rumors, superstition and other sensuous, earthly things. Yet against a backdrop of our creators best art work! Resting in the promises I cannot fail, while I wait out winter’s silent work toward renewal. Hiding in the cleft of the Rock. Yes yes and yes.

    Bless the LORD OH MY SOUL,
    OHHH MY SOUL,
    WORSHIP HIS HOLY NAME.
    SING LIKE NEVER BEFORE,
    OH MY SOUL,
    I WORSHIP YOUR HOLY NAME,
    YES I WORSHIP YOUR HOLY NAME.

  320. bubbles says:

    God’s creation makes us (me) feel his greatness. . I know we are to worship the creator and not the creation. Yesterday morning was painted with a most magnificent sunrise. I was at my dad’s house, and we stood there in awe. It was good to share that with him. It always makes me feel deep worship and thankfulness when such things are on display. There’s a mountain that I cross that at the peak, miles and miles of hills can be seen; the ridges seem to go on forever. God is great and this reminds me how small I am.

  321. Beloved says:

    From Sturgeon devotional,

    “Jesus will not let His people forget His love. If all the love they have enjoyed should be forgotten, He will visit them with fresh love.”

    Fresh love, I love it!

  322. Beloved says:

    Ha ha thats Spurgeon not Sturgeon (big fish)

  323. street says:

    17 “But if, in seeking to be justified in Christ, we Jews find ourselves also among the sinners, doesn’t that mean that Christ promotes sin? Absolutely not! 18 If I rebuild what I destroyed, then I really would be a lawbreaker.

  324. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, thanks for giving that scripture reference of 2 Peter 1:3-11.

    That passage is the one that talks about this topic: That we believe the truth of God’s Word in our lifes! And not the lies that are constantly reaching our minds. Throw them aside with God’s Word

    I am still studying them!

    On biblehub, I read the bible commentaries. I really like those of Alexander McLaren. He and Spurgeon knew each other well. Spurgeon would often use Alexander’s studies.

    Alexsander gave a sermon on that passage in Peter, I shall give the beginning of it:

    About 2 Peter 1:3-11

    “‘I knew thee,’ said the idle servant in our Lord’s parable, ‘that thou wert an austere man, reaping where thou didst not sow, and gathering where thou hadst not strewed. I was afraid, and went and hid my talent in the earth.’ Our Lord would teach us all with that pregnant word the great truth that if once a man gets it into his head that God’s principal relation to him is to demand, and to command, you will get no work out of that man; that such a notion will paralyse all activity and cut the nerve of all service. And the converse is as true, namely, that the one thought about God, which is fruitful of all blessing, joy, spontaneous, glad activity, is the thought of Him as giving, and not of demanding, of bestowing, and not of commanding. Teach a man that he is, as the book of James has it,’the giving God,’ and let that thought soak into the man’s heart and mind, and you will get any work out of him. And only when that thought is deep in the spirit will there be true service.”

    “God is ’the giving God,’ and let that thought soak into the man’s heart and mind”

  325. foreverblessed says:

    Regina, thanks for asking, but we are OK after the storm. It was a strange storm though, Never in my life have I seen such a thing. Very short and severe. For the first time in history, all the trains were out, due to the power lines hit by trees. This also happened in Germany.

    I would like you to know that I am very happy that in Germany, the political parties, CDU and SPD, the christians party of Angela Merkel, and the social party, are talking together to form a Government. I am so glad that they want to cooperate together. To set asides differences, and take responsibility to govern the country.
    I so pray that the Republicans and the Democrats will do the same. Set aside differences, and set aside the distrust. And cooperate together.

  326. SFDBWV says:

    I was thinking this morning of just what a profound statement “The Rhymes of Life” is. Because if you take stock you find that life is a continuing rhyme, an echo a routine and for some a rut.
    But the same rut.

    As Mart has referenced if we resist the devil he will flee from us.

    Indeed Adam and Eve had the choice to resist the urging of the serpent and simply believe God, but they both failed.

    Jesus was equally presented with the urging from Satan to turn stones into bread, but Jesus resisted and by His authority ordered Satan to get behind Him, out of sight, and the devil fled.

    Whereas the devil will use every device at his disposal to push us into making the wrong choices, his motive is always the same. To get us not to believe God, but rather to trust ourselves and what we know to get us by.

    My life story is one of God always there to aid and protect me, to guide and direct me. He has always been my Good Shepherd, and even when I would stray His rod and His staff comforted me by bringing me back into line.

    It has always been Him, no matter what I have done, He has anointed me to do the task He has set before me. He has went before me, with me, and cleans up after me.

    As is often said, “It is about Him, not me.”

    29 degrees and snow again this morning.

    Steve

  327. jeff1 says:

    It is difficult to know God’s presence in my life when I am feeling exhausted mentally and why I believe the struggle is in the mind.

    I am weary of this world and long for a better world to come.

    My mum was right about my dad when she said he had too high of expectations of himself and others which means he was an idealist. My mum was much more a realist and as such she called a spade a spade as we would say here in my neck of the woods and she understood this world much better than my dad because she was realistic about what people are like.

    Its a fallen world and my mum was trying to tell my dad that he was expecting people to be something they could not be and my mum was right because with all my dad’s good intentions he could not change this world or its ways and God never expected him to which surprisingly enough tells me that my mum knew God much better than I thought she did.

    God works in strange ways I am finding, much to strange for my thinking but then it is not important that I see how He works but more important that I see that He does work if you catch my drift.

  328. street says:

    My mum was right about my dad when she said he had too high of expectations of himself and others which means he was an idealist. My mum was much more a realist and as such she called a spade a spade as we would say here in my neck of the woods and she understood this world much better than my dad because she was realistic about what people are like.

    Its a fallen world and my mum was trying to tell my dad that he was expecting people to be something they could not be and my mum was right because with all my dad’s good intentions he could not change this world or its ways and God never expected him to which surprisingly enough tells me that my mum knew God much better than I thought she did.
    as i read through these thoughts and observations i was reminded that what God has made Holy is Holy, what God has made clean is clean. His arm is not short or nor is His Hand weak that He can not accomplish His will. God asked job, ” can your right hand save you?” i am thinking, God’s right Hand did save mankind and upheld God’s Righteousness Justice and that which is Holy. God’s amazing work of conforming wretch’s to the Image of His Son continues to completion. Blessed be God forever.

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