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Forgive?

Does anyone deserve to be let off the hook of a wrong done? After ruining the lives of others, what right does someone have to ask for mercy?

If God really does forgive such people—will we ever be able to forgive him? Or if God hasn’t done anything wrong— what are we missing?

Maybe Jesus knew something we don’t yet understand when he said from his cross, “Father forgive them, they don’t know what they are doing.” Maybe he also knew what only our Father knows— about a forgiveness (lovingly conditional and unconditional) that uses time and eternity—to right the wrongs of the ages— and make all things new again.

Note– My original wording of this post ended with reference to “a love that uses time and eternity—to right the wrongs of the ages…” A short time later, I changed the wording to refer to “a forgiveness (lovingly conditional and unconditional) that uses time and eternity…” I made the change to acknowledge that, as Jesus says in Luke 17:1-4, there is a kind of forgiveness that lovingly requires/and responds to a change of heart.


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  1. SFDBWV says:

    Mart let me ask you a few questions. Are we to always automatically forgive or are we only to always forgive when ask of forgiveness?

    Does God automatically forgive us our sins or does He want us to ask Him for forgiveness?

    If we confess our sins, we acknowledge that we have sinned. If we do not confess our sins or don’t recognize our actions as sin are we automatically forgiven?

    Should we allow someone to continue to stick their finger in our eye because we are to forgive them regardless, or should we ask them to stop as well?

    And if they still don’t stop, do we just forgive them and continue to have their finger in our eye?

    It seems clear to me that if someone asks forgiveness we give it.

    Certainly Jesus knew and knows something we don’t, then and now.

    What is the purpose of learning what the Bible teaches if we don’t practice it?

    If we don’t practice being Christ like in our actions, are we Christ like just because we say we are?

    There has to be some responsibility provided from us, not just expecting forgiveness for never trying to do the right thing.

    When Jesus ask the Father to forgive them for they know not what they do, was He referring to His executioners only or for every sin ever committed across time eternal?

    Why doesn’t God forgive Satan or the 1/3 of the fallen angels that followed him in the rebellion in heaven?

    What about all those judged and thrown into the lake of fire at the second resurrection?

    Where is their forgiveness?

    What right does someone have to ask for mercy? It seems to me that they first have to be sorry show remorse and a change of heart. Mercy is then easy to give.

    But if someone shows no remorse is not sorry and has no change of heart, mercy is not so easy to give.

    Will we ever be able to forgive God?
    Anyone who lives amidst the trials of life has at some point been disappointed with God, even angry. Left with unanswered question and a miserable existence, all that is left is trusting that somewhere in eternity God has a better life in store for them or at least death will end it.

    For such people church talk and quick answers do no good. Only our love in action for them matters.

    Interesting to see what may come into this conversation, hope that it has more than 3 people’s input.

    Steve

  • Mart DeHaan says:

    Good morning, Steve, I owe you an apology. I found your list of important questions— after I had already altered my original post by adding– the thought of a forgiveness shaped by necessary considerations of conditional and unconditional love. When I found you had already responded to the original wording I thought about changing my post back to the original— which I think would help to explain at least some of your response. Instead I decided to respond to you here and will add a note at the end of the post.