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With the thought of mercy, what comes to mind?

The cold kindness a bully shows when his victim admits defeat? Or Jesus on the cross praying, “Father, forgive them. They don’t know what they are doing.”

My guess is that if we could sit down around the same table— and share a meal of memories about some of the mercy we’ve seen and received, there would be a lot of smiles and a few tears.

Before calling it a day, we might read, together, the 136th Psalm written to recall a God who is good and whose mercy endures forever.

We’d probably get stuck for a while on the unnerving thought that, as this celebration of goodness unfolds, what is merciful to some seems merciless to others.

But I think we’d end up agreeing that, like much of the rest of the Bible, this song doesn’t describe the way the world should be. In a world of bullies, it shows us how grateful we can be for friends like our God— whose mercy endures forever.

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366 Responses to “Mercy”

  1. jeff1 says:

    I have to agree with the words of this song as it rings true to me having found that my sins of omission are greater than my sins of commission.

    “Were I the perfect child of God
    Whose faith was deep and love was broad,
    Not doubtful, guilty, worn or flawed,
    I’d gladly follow Jesus.”

  2. poohpity says:

    After reading Psalm 136 Mart, I can see what you meant by, “what is merciful to some seems merciless to others”. It did not seem like mercy to destroy those who opposed the nation of Israel but if they were allowed to continue being a bully to Israel so many more horrible things would have happened not only to Israel but to others and they would have destroyed themselves as well. So in His great mercy He cut it off before more bad things could have happened not only for them but for those they effected.

    Like when gangrene sets in, one can either let it ravage the area that is effected as it will also travel throughout the whole body or one can amputate the areas. Losing a limb may sound merciless but it is actually the most merciful thing to do to prevent further suffering.

  3. poohpity says:

    Matt 5:29, 18:9; Mark 9:47 Seems pretty merciless but if one has eternity in mind we can look at it differently.

  4. jeff1 says:

    There’s a wideness in God’s mercy,
    Like the wideness of the sea.
    There’s a kindness in God’s justice,
    Which is more than liberty.
    There is no place where earth’s sorrows
    Are more felt than up in heaven.
    There is no place where earth’s failings
    Have such kindly judgement given.

    There’s a welcome for the sinner
    And more graces for the good.
    There is mercy with the Saviour
    There is healing in his blood.
    There is plentiful redemption
    In the blood that has been shed.
    There is joy for all the members
    In the sorrows of the Head.

    For the love of God is broader
    Than the measures of the mind.
    And the heart of the Eternal
    Is most wonderfully kind.
    If our love were but more faithful,
    We would gladly trust God’s Word,
    And our lives reflect thanksgiving
    For the goodness of our Lord.

    There is grace enough for thousands
    Of new worlds as great as this;
    There is room for fresh creations
    In that upper home of bliss.
    Pining souls! come nearer Jesus,
    And oh! come not doubting thus.
    But with faith that trusts more bravely
    His huge tenderness for us.

    ‘Tis not all we owe to Jesus;
    It is something more than all;
    Greater good because of evil,
    Larger mercy through the fall.
    If our love were but more simple,
    We should take Him at His word;
    And our lives would all be sunshine
    In the sweetness of our Lord.

    Added after the first publication – sometimes used as the first verse:
    Souls of men, why will ye scatter
    Like a crowd of frightened sheep?
    Foolish hearts, why will ye wander
    From a love so true and deep?
    Was there ever kinder shepherd
    Half so gentle, half so sweet,
    As the Saviour who would have us
    Come and gather round His feet

  5. Beloved says:

    Yes, I am one of the cold hearted bullies of the world. In theory, saying ‘Father forgive them they know not what they do’, can also seem cold if my heart is not in it. But in practice, with a changing heart it does become easier, easier as I recognize I was one of those who crucified my Savior, Who loved me enough to die for me, even before I was born. I’m so thankful for the cross. As well as all the blessings God continually pours out on the just and the unjust alike! Bullies and angels all receive the same reward when we believe and receive Jesus into our broken lives. Blessed Thanksgiving friends.

  6. SFDBWV says:

    At my last place of employment there was a certain fellow whom was quite intelligent, well read, kind, courteous and an all-around pleasant man to know.

    One afternoon while talking with him he shared with me the philosophical statement that all of the philosophers came to the same conclusion that man’s purpose was to “be happy”.

    My immediate response was that the purpose of man is for the glory of God and the uplifting of His Son and our Savior Jesus of Nazareth the Christ.

    However over the years that conversation has haunted me, as I have had to agree; people want to be happy.

    However when you mix in our purpose to glorify God, sometimes it comes with much unhappiness with a promise of ultimate happiness yet to come.

    So even with that said we still long for whatever it is that will make us “happy”.

    So we wish each other “Happy Thanksgiving”, “Merry Christmas”, “Happy New Year”, “Happy Birthday”, and on and on.

    As is immediately obvious in reading the 136th Psalm almost in a contrast verse for verse is one man’s mercy and another’s punishment without mercy.

    But in this subject and along with this topic I am curious who it is Mart considers “bullies” and who it is that is being bullied.

    Well after having said all I have I will “wish you all a “Happy Thanksgiving” and all your days filled with God’s blessings.


  7. jeff1 says:

    Happy Thanksgiving Steve and to all in the USA.

  8. Beloved says:

    Thank you Viv. I received an excellent turkey dinner with all the trimmings from a local church brought to my apt. building. (Turkey is key here for us.) Steve there is a really good article in CT about Thanksgiving and loving our enemies. I did not know Lincoln instituted it during wartime. It seems to fit along with Marts piece here.

  9. Beloved says:

    I don’t believe it was Marts intention but the topic makes me feel very down. I fall so far short yet I know Gods mercy extends to all. I am so looking forward to the day I am united with Jesus without the ruined flesh and soul. No more depression, anxiety, fears etc. Living one day at a time is key. Thankful truly for my God, for being who He is, and that He is a loving and merciful God, applying justice where it is needed.

  10. bubbles says:

    How strange! I read this Paalm this morning and had the same thoughts! I read it out loud and really thought about each word. After my experiences over the past two years, I am humbled and thankful to the point of tears for the mercy of God.

  11. phpatato says:

    Thinking of my American friends here and I’m hoping you all had a very Blessed Thanksgiving. And for those of you living in the Northeast, where new records are being set because of the frigid cold and bitter wind chill values, I pray you stay warm and safe.

    Chin up Joyce. If you were to look around you, you’d find me and many others who, for the same reasons you gave, are looking forward to that day when we can finally say “We’re Home”!!!

    For His mercy endureth for ever.


  12. jeff1 says:

    Beloved we have Turkey on Christmas Day as families get together who may not see each other that often. I have my son and his girlfriend coming from England and look forward to seeing them.

    I am so glad you enjoyed yours. I love this time of year with Carol Services and pantomimes being a favourite of mine.

    I take one day at a time too and try to live in the present rather than in the past and leave the difficulties of this world to God who knows best.

    I try to overcome my focus on falling short by helping in the Charity shop and with funeral teas which is doing a little for my community and working as part of a team makes me realise that we can all do our bit no matter our weaknesses.

    I too get weary of my weaknesses but knowing God can turn them around for good always helps to make me feel better.

    Hope you feel better soon.

  13. street says:

    With the thought of mercy, what comes to mind?


    seem like mercy comes after judgment.

    a good judgment can not ignore righteousness or justice.

    blessing and life.

  14. Beloved says:

    I’m thankful for caring friends.

  15. poohpity says:

    What comes to my mind about “Mercy”? Compassion, kindheartedness, softheartedness, that gives up punishment when justice demands it or a lessor punishment than one actually deserves.

    The opposite is inhumanity, coldheartedness, hardheartedness.

    Bullies- People who are habitually cruel, insulting, or threatening to others who are weaker, smaller, or in some way vulnerable.

    A very good example of bullying was during the Justice Kavanaugh hearings when 10 Democrats got together and decided the quilt of this one man with no factual information, going on hearsay, assumptions and false accusations about his character and integrity. The same with Jesus when hundreds of religious leaders got together and discussed how to kill Him based on false claims and accusations. The same with the Kings mentioned in Psalm 136 when Israel did not pose a threat to them in any way, the actual threat or fear should have came from knowing the power of God.

    To those kings it was merciful the way the Lord dealt with them, it could have been worse than giving their lands to Israel. The people of Egypt who oppressed Israel for over 400 years death was merciful, God could have turned the tables and put them under oppression for 400 years under heavy task masters rather than the mercy He showed.

  16. Mart DeHaan says:

    For what it’s worth, my take is that the songwriter of 136 was seeing mercy through his own eyes and from the perspective of what his own nation had witnessed. He wasn’t trying to answer the question of how a God who is by nature lovingly merciful could save Israel at the expense of the Egyptians and Canaanites.

    God’s promise to Abraham, together with what has since been revealed in the New Testament, seems to give us a clue to that additional question— in the good news of a Savior who reflects a God who chose one people and one Man to bring blessing to the whole world. While that gives us reason for hope in the heart and nature of God, it leaves many questions unanswered. (Similar to Abram’s often quoted question, “Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?” Genesis 18:25)

  17. jeff1 says:

    I am too Beloved as how often I have needed them to pray, encourage and comfort me on my journey. Some quotes from
    C. S. Lewis that ring true to me.

    Everyone has noticed how hard it is to turn our thoughts to God when everything is going well with us… While what we call ‘our own life’ remains agreeable, we will not surrender it to Him. What, then, can God do in our interests but make ‘our own life’ less agreeable to us, and take away the plausible sources of false happiness?

    We are not living in a world where all roads are radii of a circle and where all, if followed long enough, will therefore draw gradually nearer and finally meet at the centre: rather in a world where every road, after a few miles, forks into two, and each of those into two again, and at each fork, you must make a decision.

    The long, dull, monotonous years of middle-aged prosperity or middle-aged adversity are excellent campaigning weather for the devil.

    The real problem is not why some pious, humble, believing people suffer, but why some do not.

    Some people feel guilty about their anxieties and regard them as a defect of faith but they are afflictions, not sins. Like all afflictions, they are, if we can so take them, our share in the passion of Christ.

    Affection is responsible for nine-tenths of whatever solid and durable happiness there is in our lives.

    We’re born alone, we live alone, we die alone. Only through our love and friendship can we create the illusion for the moment that we’re not alone.

  18. poohpity says:

    So I would think that the bullies Mart was speaking of were the people of Egypt and the Kings mentioned in the Psalm. But as usual I could be wrong and would not assume to speak for Mart but just they way the subject was spoken of leads one to believe it was that way.

  19. poohpity says:

    After I commented I see Mart spoke for himself, go figure, lol. If I had only waited I would not have assumed anything. Goes to show ya don’t it.

  20. jeff1 says:

    Sadly this world still has its bullies and so this world does not change much from ancient times and the challenges we face are similar to our ancestors.

    Terrorists here tried to force people to their way through violence and in doing so created more violence and when they seen it was not getting them what they wanted they decided to enter the political arena which is not working because they are still trying to make demands that will ultimately get them what they want and the opposing party are just as determined to have things their way and so the people as usual are the last thing on their minds.

    What God is teaching me is that I am just as depending on Him today as my ancestors were because those in authority do not change that much as having power is ultimately their goal for themselves and where does God fit into their schemes or am I missing something?

  21. SFDBWV says:

    Much earlier this morning as I looked over BTA I tried to write something, but it soon slid into a negative spin, so I deleted, poured myself another cup of coffee and went on to reading my morning paper while Matt watched country music amid napping in and out.

    After reading Mart’s further explanation I looked the Psalm up in my study Bible and it directed the subject to being one of praise to God for Israel’s being and success.

    Actually I had thought it a nice little Psalm in the spirit of “Thanksgiving” and should leave it there. Not trying to read more into it than that only exposes more of the slants and spins we all put on everything.

    It is deer season here and the snow we received a week ago hasn’t went anywhere because of the temperatures, nice of Pat to worry about us while she is in the middle of the coldest of this abnormal cold snap.

    Hope this warm up for you Pat.


  22. poohpity says:

    Steve, You mean you hadn’t read the Psalm before you became curious who the bullies were that Mart was speaking of and who was being bullied since it was in the Psalm? I thought you were not going to put a negative spin on anything yet you accuse everyone of slants and spins, isn’t that negative?

  23. Beloved says:

    Viv I think God uses all of mans schemes to bring glory to Himself, in one way or another, like Mart said about Psalm136 earlier in using one Man, Jesus, and Israel to bring blessing to the whole world. Thinking of all the wars Israel was involved in yet God had a plan that would bring a peace beyond understanding. Yet we do struggle as Mart said with righteous judgement. Thinking my struggles always bring me back to the cross, the quietest most peaceful place in the world for me. I’ll let God judge them.

    Thanks for bringing CS’s encouraging and righteous thoughts to the blog this morning, even a little bit of light brings joy and happiness to my soul!

  24. Beloved says:

    Steve I appreciate you deleting and coming back again. There’s enough negativity here already. I’m ready for some peaceful conversation with my brothers and sisters in Christ. You, brother, are so good to know! I really appreciate yours and streets’ comments here.

  25. Beloved says:

    And of course Marts!!

  26. Beloved says:

    Not meaning to leave my sister’s here out, not at all, just thinking of my brothers in my earlier post.

  27. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Joyce and all others as well. I have before explained that even though raised in church with my wonderful Christian mother seeing to it, I did certainly fall away from living by the play book. However God never abandoned me. He has always been with me.

    In recollection I can see clearly God’s provision, protection, and more than guidance more like interaction throughout my entire life.

    My return to Him came from reading and studying the Old Testament as it revealed the New to me. Similarly as Mart has said he seen the future New Testament Christ in the 136 Psalm.

    Jesus was clearly revealed to me as I studied the Old and almost as a conformation the New Testament story connected and completed the Old. Making to me the 2 inseparable.

    So I cannot separate the merciful God, from the God of justice. Even seeing what is meant by His being the owner of “revenge”.

    Mart mentions questions and I have learned that my questions are left to “faith” as some things are not only far above me, but I am not ready to accept some of them.

    Like when Jesus told His Disciples that John the Baptist was Elijah the prophet and followed up by saying “if they can accept it.”

    As for me I accept is easily simply because He said so. For me that is good enough. However I have read all sorts of others try to make such a comment make sense to them by putting forth their own twist or spin on it. When all they need to do is “just accept it.”

    I plan on cooking our big turkey dinner Sunday rather than yesterday, as logistics made such a choice more reasonable and for us here every day is a day of “Thanksgiving”.

    Blessings to all.


  28. street says:

    Compassion, kindheartedness, softheartedness, that gives up punishment when justice demands it or a lessor punishment than one actually deserves.

    mercy that ignores righteousness and justice is not merciful. my understanding the blessing that comes to all the nations came from One man for a man and the promises made to that man. He really did make his name great alone with the other promises.

    31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

    Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God!
    How unsearchable his judgments,
    and his paths beyond tracing out!

    though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God. 21 He made Him who knew no sin to be sin on our behalf, so that we might become the righteousness of God in Him.

    His generous love compassion mercy grace exceeds my understanding only for the purpose to Glorify God.
    even in the darkest times. that we would be conformed to the image of His Son.

  29. street says:

    thinking about dark times.
    when things are going really well for us it can be a dark time. paul considered the times of plenty and need to be the same.

    for not even when one has an abundance does his life consist of his possessions.”

    But He answered and said, “It is written, ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that proceeds out of the mouth of God.’”

    the only place this happens is in Christ.

    i understand we are given Righteousness not of our own doing…..mercy.

  30. Beloved says:

    22 Consider therefore the kindness(AG) and sternness of God: sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that you continue(AH) in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off.(AI) 23 And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again.(AJ) 24 After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a cultivated olive tree,(AK) how much more readily will these, the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree!

    All Israel Will Be Saved
    25 I do not want you to be ignorant(AL) of this mystery,(AM) brothers and sisters, so that you may not be conceited:(AN) Israel has experienced a hardening(AO) in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in,(AP) 26 and in this way[e] all Israel will be saved.(AQ) As it is written:

    “The deliverer will come from Zion;
    he will turn godlessness away from Jacob.
    27 And this is[f] my covenant with them
    when I take away their sins.”[g](AR)

    28 As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies(AS) for your sake; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved on account of the patriarchs,(AT) 29 for God’s gifts and his call(AU) are irrevocable.(AV) 30 Just as you who were at one time disobedient(AW) to God have now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 31 so they too have now become disobedient in order that they too may now[h] receive mercy as a result of God’s mercy to you. 32 For God has bound everyone over to disobedience(AX) so that he may have mercy on them all.

    33 Oh, the depth of the riches(AY) of the wisdom and[i] knowledge of God!(AZ)
    How unsearchable his judgments,
    and his paths beyond tracing out!(BA)
    34 “Who has known the mind of the Lord?
    Or who has been his counselor?”[j](BB)
    35 “Who has ever given to God,
    that God should repay them?”[k](BC)
    36 For from him and through him and for him are all things.(BD)
    To him be the glory forever! Amen

  31. poohpity says:

    Beloved, first off it was not Mart but street who spoke about righteous judgement which there is only one who is able to do that in justice and that is God. Human beings seem to think they can do that but are so limited in their knowledge, finite thinking or biases, sin and in their faulty judgements so wisdom seems to suggest that is best left to the One is omniscience.

    street, your first paragraph that starts with Compassion in the comment of 11:52am is the definition of “Mercy”. God never ignores righteousness and Justice ny giving mercy, actually it seems to be the basis for what we call grace.

  32. Beloved says:

    (Similar to Abram’s often quoted question, “Will not the Judge of all the earth do right?” Genesis 18:25)

    I’m thinking Gods judgement is always righteous.

  33. poohpity says:

    Can we show mercy even when we do not think someone deserves it? Can we withhold rejection, hate, anger, destruction but show mercy instead? Not because someone deserves it but because we DID NOT deserve the mercy of God either but yet He gifted us with it anyway.

    James 2:13–For judgment is without mercy to one who has shown no mercy. Mercy triumphs over judgment.

    James 3:17–But the wisdom from above is first of all pure. It is also peace loving, gentle at all times, and willing to yield to others. It is full of mercy and good deeds. It shows no favoritism and is always sincere.

    Matt 5:7 NLT–God blesses those who are merciful, for they will be shown mercy.

    Matt 18:33–Jesus asked, “Shouldn’t you have mercy on your fellow servant, just as I had mercy on you?’

    Mart regarding your comment of 7:52am “He wasn’t trying to answer the question of how a God who is by nature lovingly merciful could save Israel at the expense of the Egyptians and Canaanites.” I do not understand what you meant after reading it over and over.

  34. Beloved says:

    God indeed does not govern the world according to what profane men think. —Calvin

  35. Beloved says:

    He governs with mercy!

  36. Beloved says:

    Psalm 18:25-50
    25 With the merciful you show yourself merciful;
    with the blameless man you show yourself blameless;
    26 with the purified you show yourself pure;
    and with the crooked you make yourself seem tortuous.
    27 For you save a humble people,
    but the haughty eyes you bring down.
    28 For it is you who light my lamp;
    the Lord my God lightens my darkness.
    29 For by you I can run against a troop,
    and by my God I can leap over a wall.
    30 This God—his way is perfect;
    the word of the Lord proves true;
    he is a shield for all those who take refuge in him.

  37. Mart DeHaan says:

    Deb, I was trying to say that I think the songwriter was speaking from the limited perspective of his own time and place about how God had been merciful to Israel. Like us, he was a witness to what he had seen and to what God had revealed to him and his people.

    What God had/and still has not revealed, as far as I can tell, is how on the basis of the cross he will offer mercy to everyone from the time of Adam (while also judging everyone from the time of Adam.) Am thinking of the mysteries wrapped up in Paul’s Romans 5:12-21.

    In so many ways we still “see through a glass darkly”. That’s why I conclude that our faith and hope need to be in the nature of what God has revealed in Christ’s sacrifice– more than in our understanding of his words.

  38. jeff1 says:

    Beloved says:
    November 23, 2018 at 10:34 am

    Yes, I agree that God turns man’s schemes around for His purpose.

    I still need to recognise that it was not God’s intention in the first place otherwise I see God using violence that He never intended if you see where I am coming from.

    Why do you think that those who lost loved ones by the bomb or the bullet find it hard to forgive the perpetrators and I can tell you it is because they do not believe it was God’s will for their loved ones to be taken in this way.

    Yes, it is for God to judge but it is for us to discern as believers otherwise we end up believing like unbelievers that God is responsible for violence that was never intended.

  39. jeff1 says:

    It is for God to judge and show mercy and it is for me to show patience and trust in allowing God to do His will by faith in Christ as His sacrifice is my hope and comfort in times of need.

  40. poohpity says:

    Mart, thank you. Another ah-ha moment. I guess we will never understand fully on this side of heaven the nature of God’s love, mercy, grace nor even the sacrifice of Jesus. It is to grand and infinite for our comprehension.

    I wonder then if that is not some of the problems I face in gifting mercy to others as well because I do not fully understand the length, breath, width and height of what was done on that Cross or I would be more willing to give His mercy freely away to others instead of wanting them to be accountable to what I think?

  41. poohpity says:

    Our own perspective does get in the way of many, many things.

  42. poohpity says:

    But I guess in my minds eye it did seem that the Psalmist not only saw the mercy God showed Israel but in His dealings with Egypt and Kings of Amorites and Bashan when in verse 25 He did not withhold food from anyone, friend or foe. Isn’t that a merciful thing to do, especially to enemies?

  43. poohpity says:

    Starving someone to death seems like the most horrible way to die.

  44. SFDBWV says:

    Sadly, very sadly the English starved Joan of Arc before burning her alive for her part in the French war with England and for heresy in claiming God spoke to her and led her efforts against the English.

    All in the name of Jesus and as a sin against God.

    Then there was Tyndale who was punished extra in his execution by having a hole bored in the wooden pole that he was tied to, a wire threaded through the hole and around his neck so he could be choked as he burned. All because he paid to have Bibles printed in English and distributed among his fellow countrymen. A crime against the Church of England.

    Mart spoke of bullies and of God’s mercies. In these stories we see Christ who lived and taught mercy misused as a means of fear and power over people.

    However there still remains bullies who intimidate other Christians into accepting whatever it is they believe or at best accepting that they know more and speak as though they do. Creating just as much damage to the name of God and body of Christ as those horrible crimes of public executions mentioned earlier.

    Great care needs to be put forth when we as Christians speak or in this case write that mercy flavors all we may have to share.

    How do we confront bullies? Fearless, but with tenderness and truth, as “revenge” belongs to God and God will properly balance justice with mercy.

    Mart I just want to say here that I am very happy to see you join in the conversation and hope that you have the time to continue to do so.

    36 fog and rain.


  45. Beloved says:

    Viv I understand the struggle, as I’ve struggled for years with the devastation caused by my dysfunctional upbringing and its lifelong consequences.

  46. Beloved says:

    Like Mart said there are so many mysteries surrounding God. But one day we will know all, even as we are known.

  47. poohpity says:

    Did those who killed Joan of Arc and the Tyndale really have a heart for Christ or did they just proclaim they did when their actions were quite different than their words? Excellent examples of actions speaking louder than words. It is attributed to St Frances of Assisi but unknown whether it was really him who said, “Preach the Gospel at all times, and if necessary use words.”

    Jesus said, “A new commandment I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so also you must love one another. 35By this all men will know that you are My disciples, if you love one another.” John 13:34-35 His love was shown in gifting us with mercy. Of course we know that the disciples did disagree with each other at times but they came together in unity of cause.

  48. poohpity says:

    Each person knows in their own hearts whether they have shown mercy and grace or give excuses about someone not deserving mercy or grace or blaming them for the anger and hate one holds inside towards them. It is after all about being honest with yourself.

  49. poohpity says:

    So I guess the most important thing for me is not what others do but am I showing mercy? Or am I stepping all over the grace of God as meaningless by withholding it from others?

  50. Beloved says:

    Take “me” and “I” to the cross and rest. Jesus is our Sabbath, our everyday of rest from struggles inside and out.

  51. poohpity says:

    If I do not look at the “I” and “me” then that is what stops me from looking at others. What I see in “I” and “me” that is exactly what drove me to the foot of the Cross in the first place.

  52. Beloved says:

    When you get there, forget about yourself and you will see others differently, through Jesus’ eyes.

  53. Beloved says:

    Father, forgive them, they don’t know what they are doing. Mercy.

  54. Beloved says:

    Viv I just read a good article reminding me that all we go through in our lives becomes transformed into future blessings for others. Hebrews11 Though we may not understand at the time there’s something to be said for how the goodness of God plays out in the world through adversity. My daughter once said to me, every generation is getting better! She was so right and able to see what I couldn’t at the time. In Gods family He takes good care of us. Mercy!

  55. Beloved says:

    There’s a wideness in God’s mercy, yes!!

  56. poohpity says:

    Beloved advised, “When you get there, forget about yourself and you will see others differently, through Jesus’ eyes.” Do you do that?

  57. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Beloved, God is all knowing and why He knows best. There are times when it may seem that God is not on my side but that is because I struggle with my own demons.

    This quote from C. S Lewis makes me realise how little I do know.

    The greatest evils in the world will not be carried out by men with guns, but by men in suits sitting behind desks.

  58. Beloved says:

    Yes, I do pooh. But getting out in the world dims my View which is a battle, isn’t it. We are not home, yet.

  59. Beloved says:

    That’s why I advise spending as much time as possible at the cross. Do I spend enough time at the cross you may ask? No, I never do spend enough time there. But it’s not about me, it’s about our great God who lived and died and lives again, for all of us.

  60. Beloved says:

    Viv I agree, it’s often the decision makers not the followers that create the most damage.

  61. Beloved says:

    Thanks for the test pooh! God bless you!

  62. Beloved says:

    Viv have you heard of “taking captivity captive”? Jesus did that on the cross for us, so when you are aware you are being assaulted by demons take them to Jesus, He knows what to do with them :-)

  63. jeff1 says:

    I pray the Lord’s prayer when I feel under attack and I always feel better when I do.

  64. Beloved says:

    Yes, ‘Deliver us from evil’ is so powerful. Jesus is our deliverer.

  65. street says:

    As is immediately obvious in reading the 136th Psalm almost in a contrast verse for verse is one man’s mercy and another’s punishment without mercy.

    thinking about the depravity of man. all are condemned by sin. yet God, Who is rich in mercy saves. the recipients of mercy, were like the rest, yet did not receive the same outcome. we are told it is for God’s Name and His Glory! completing what He started.

    4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead [f]in our transgressions, made us alive together [g]with Christ

    where is boasting? i hear about thanksgiving and praise a lot.

  66. street says:

    how shall we live? sounds like a trick question.

    trust in self or trust in God?

    a Holy Spirit
    a Risen Savior
    a Loving Father

  67. jeff1 says:

    Keep Your Eyes On Me

    Ain’t it just like a tear
    To go and blur out everything
    Ain’t just like glass
    To fall and break so easily
    Ain’t it just like love
    To leave a mark on the skin and underneath
    Yeah, when the pain goes and shadows everything

    Keep your eyes on me
    Keep your eyes on me
    When it hurts too much to see
    Keep your eyes on me

    Ain’t it the sinner
    Who gets all the grace sometimes
    Ain’t it the saint
    Who picks up the pieces left behind
    Yeah, and it’s human to hurt the one
    You hurt the one you love the most
    And you can’t find the sun

    Keep your eyes on me
    When you’re lost in the dark
    Keep your eyes on me
    When the light in your heart is
    Too burned out to see
    Keep your eyes on me

    You swear you’re all alone sometimes
    Keep your eyes on me
    And you can’t find your way home sometimes
    Keep your eyes on me
    Keep your eyes on me

    Keep your eyes on me
    Keep your eyes on me
    Keep your eyes on me
    Keep your eyes on me
    Keep your eyes on me

    When you’re lost in the dark
    Keep your eyes on me
    When the light in your heart is
    Keep your eyes on me
    Keep your eyes on me

    Keep your eyes on me
    Keep your eyes on me

  68. SFDBWV says:

    Theodore Roosevelts famous quote “Speak softly, but carry a big stick” comes to mind when thinking of bullies.

    The question then arises amongst Christian’s is there ever a time to use the “big stick”?

    Is there a difference between defending yourself and revenge? I would believe so.

    There is an odd term attached to religions, “Orthodox”. If you look up in the dictionary its actual meaning it is “Conforming to the usual beliefs or doctrines.” “Conforming to the Christian faith as formulated in the early ecumenical creeds and confessions.” “Observing the rites and traditions of Judaism.”

    It sort of sounds like “old school” without the influences and changes of modern living.

    Then there is another term used in the description of religions which is often confused with orthodox, “purest” which can mean different things to different people, but simply said the purest form of that religion would be the “ideal”.

    In living in a real world where there is danger and evil lurking everywhere we are to be on alert at all times and prepared to recognize them.

    What to do when we encounter them sounds easy enough, but not when we introduce religion into the mix.

    One of the arguments I hear from people who are Christian, but not necessarily friendly with the idea of being an ally, defender and protector of the nation of Israel is that God is the defender of Israel and so we are not to choose sides just because of the idea Israel is “special”. Leaving Israel to defend for herself successfully if God so decides.

    So are we as Christians never to defend ourselves with that “big stick” or just rely on God to defend us?

    The question then arises, does God use people to carry out His will or is it only through supernatural means is God’s will exacted?

    I am certain it is a combination of both, but the use of people means that we have armies, police, and special people designated to use violence (big stick) in order for our protection, the protection of our families and neighbors.

    We are not living in the thousand year “Millennial period” of Christ on the throne in Jerusalem yet nor are we in heaven.

    Are we all “conscientious objectors” or are we realists who know where we are in the scope of things? Orthodox or Purest?

    God will “bless those who bless Israel and curse those who curse Israel”.

    Just wanted to add that as a follow up to my mentioning Israel, seeing that Psalm 136 is about Israel defended by God’s mercy and her enemies defeated by God design.


  69. jeff1 says:

    VERSE 1
    I’ve had many tears and sorrows
    I’ve had questions for tomorrow
    There’ve been times I didn’t know right from wrong
    But in every situation
    God gave me blessed consolation
    That my trials come to only make me strong

    Been a lot of places
    And I’ve seen a lot of faces
    There were times I felt so all alone
    In my lonely hours
    Those precious lonely hours
    Jesus let me know that I was his own

    Oh, singing through it all
    Through it all
    I’ve learned to trust in Jesus
    I’ve learned to trust in God

    Oh, through it all
    Through it all
    I’ve learned to depend upon his word

    Well I thank God for my mountains
    And I thank him for my valleys
    And I thank him for the storms he’s brought me through
    (He brought through)

    For if I never had a problem
    How would I know that God could solve them
    (Solve them)
    How would I know what faith in His word could do

    That’s why I must be singing through it all
    Through it all
    I’ve learned to trust in Jesus
    I’ve learned to trust in God

    Oh, singing through it all
    Through it all
    I’ve learned to depend upon his word.

    Oh, I’m singing
    (Through it all)
    Oh, he’s never let me down
    (Through it all)
    He’s always been there for me
    (I’ve learned to trust in Jesus)
    I’ve learned to trust in God

    (Through it all)
    He’s never let me down
    (Through it all)
    I’ve learned to depend upon his word
    Yes, I’ve learned to depend upon his word
    (Upon his word)
    I’ve learned to depend upon his word
    I’ve learned to depend upon his holy word

  70. poohpity says:

    I am so tired of empty words.
    Words that say one thing while
    actions completely show something else.

    Claiming the Cross yet filled with hate.
    Being forgiven yet unable to forgive.
    Wanting mercy yet not showing any.

    Telling others what to do but not living it themselves.
    If Jesus were to walk into a place today would you know who He is, would you recognize Him when He asks “who do you say I am?”

    Do you understand what His purpose was?
    How can grace ever be earned?
    Is there anything you can do to repay His wonderful sacrifice?

    Claiming the Cross yet filled with hate.
    Being forgiven yet unable to forgive.
    Wanting mercy yet not showing any.

    I am so tired of empty words.
    Words that say one thing while
    actions completely show something else.

    Would you know Jesus if He walked next to you because He was not appealing to the eye?
    The next time you see a homeless, hungry person or one broken in heart would you stop offering help or walk past feeling this person was beneath you? “Who do you say I am?”

    He did not come adorned as a King but born in a straw bed. He did not come displaying power and might but as a lowly servant. He was not accepted but was rejected. His love was not returned but He loved anyway.

    I am so tired of empty words.
    Words that say one thing while
    actions completely show something else.

    Claiming the Cross yet filled with hate.
    Being forgiven yet unable to forgive.
    Wanting mercy yet not showing any.

  71. Beloved says:

    Whoever wrote that was having a bad day….needs to understand grace and mercy.

  72. Beloved says:

    Psalm 105:1-6NIV
    1 Give praise to the LORD, proclaim his name; make known among the nations what he has done. 2 Sing to him, sing praise to him; tell of all his wonderful acts. 3 Glory in his holy name; let the hearts of those who seek the LORD rejoice. 4 Look to the LORD and his strength; seek his face always. 5 Remember the wonders he has done, his miracles, and the judgments he pronounced, 6 you his servants, the descendants of Abraham, his chosen ones, the children of Jacob.

  73. Beloved says:

    We all get tired of people who don’t live up to our expectations, but the cross!!! Forgiveness, grace and mercy for all, even our sad selves! Keep looking up, Pooh.

  74. poohpity says:

    I think the person who wrote that fully believes in grace and mercy but does not see it in action from the people who profess to know the Lord.

    Paul said, “Those who live only to satisfy their own sinful nature will harvest decay and death from that sinful nature. But those who live to please the Spirit will harvest everlasting life from the Spirit. So let’s not get tired of doing what is good. At just the right time we will reap a harvest of blessing if we don’t give up. Therefore, whenever we have the opportunity, we should do good to everyone—especially to those in the family of faith.” Isn’t forgiving, being merciful and showing grace doing good?

    “What counts is whether we have been transformed into a new creation. May God’s peace and mercy be upon all who live by this principle; they are the new people of God.”

  75. poohpity says:

    Joyce, you are so right that I need to keep looking up, when will you start doing that? Isn’t telling me what to do looking around and down rather than looking up? Show me how it is done then I could see by example rather than do as I say not as I do.

  76. jeff1 says:

    God Knocking On Your Door

    Your heart is like a little room
    Where feelings come to stay
    And all you need is a loving broom
    To sweep the dirt’s away
    And if you try to keep it clean
    And keep your feelings pure
    May be you will hear the sound
    Of God Knocking on your door

    So keep you’re heart a sacred place
    Full of all that’s good
    And pray to god will give your grace
    To do the things you should
    And fill your room with gentleness
    And love that will enjoy
    Maybe you will hear the sound
    Of God Knocking On Your Door

    When you’re feeling happy and your heart is alive
    It’s a clue close to you
    Making sunshine from your night
    So fill your hearts with treasure
    That will not fade or rust
    For blessings being measured
    Come to those who trust
    And watch and pray and every day
    Into your room with God
    Maybe you will hear the sound
    Of God Knocking On Your Door

    When you’re feeling happy
    When your Heart is light
    It’s a clue it’s Close to you
    Making sunshine from your night
    On Christmas night I’ll praise the light
    That burns eternally
    And I’ll remember all the things that Jesus did for me
    I’ll feel his birth renew the earth
    And Fill my room with all
    And maybe I will hear the sound
    Of God Knocking On My Door
    Of God Knocking On My Door

  77. street says:

    I think the person who wrote that fully believes in grace and mercy but does not see it in action from the people who profess to know the Lord.

    the person believes in grace and mercy but is blind to it?

    violence violence violence
    could you not see grace and mercy in the flood?
    grace and mercy in the red sea?
    grace and mercy at the cross?

    we may not see grace and mercy in mankind, but we do see it from the Right Hand of God.

    Isaiah 26:9
    At night my soul longs for You, Indeed, my spirit within me seeks You diligently; For when the earth experiences Your judgments The inhabitants of the world learn righteousness.

  78. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Street, we find grace and mercy in Christ and why God wants us to submit to Him for without Him I can do nothing!

  79. street says:

    learning judgment and condemnation of my own soul, not a pleasant place to be, but a good place and proper place to be. not of my own doing,but by the grace and mercy of a Holy God! a place where mercy can be received along with righteousness and true life. a life in Christ by a Holy Spirit walking in Spirit and Truth with much grace and mercy. Trust,faith, Hope, and Love. these three are from God and in God.

    put away your thoughts and common sense. seek ask knock. God is the reward of those who seek Him.

  80. Beloved says:

    Pooh, remember the great command? Go tell! I’m telling you, Pooh, to look to Jesus. Don’t worry about my example, you will be disappointed. Seek first the Kingdom of God and His righteousness, and you will never be disappointed.

  81. poohpity says:

    street, but yet in common sense thinking you can speak about things you know nothing about as if you do, often. Do you seek God or just babble before He replies?

    I see grace and mercy in the flood.
    I see grace and mercy in the Red sea.
    I see grace and mercy especially and more importantly at the Cross.

    Never heard we are to judge or condemn our own soul that may be the reason why one is quick to judge and condemn others. Trust, faith, hope and love are four things, two of which come from from us as in trust and hope which are found in God but faith and love come from God.

  82. Beloved says:

    Not command, commission.

  83. Beloved says:

    There are a few here that do a good job of proclaiming Christ. Follow their example and you will see Christ, if you need an example, pooh.

  84. poohpity says:

    That is not what we are called to go and tell, lol, your just joking, right? Matt 28:19-20 NLT We are not to tell anyone anything about how to do their life that is not in our job description if we trust God but we are to go and tell about the Gospel, letting people make up their own choices about it and then watch God work in their lives.

    Do you go and share the Gospel? Have you ever shared the Gospel with anyone? After all it is the great commission or are you to busy telling people what to do instead?

  85. street says:

    trust, faith…

    are the same word with same meaning.

    trust faith and belief are interchangeable. they mean the same thing.

    without God we are nothing, dust that has no weight or relevance on scales. if we are anything it has to come from God. conceived in sin and dead to God, incapable of making self alive. yet chosen before the foundation of the earth! or
    8 But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners.
    2 Once you were dead because of your disobedience and your many sins. 2 You used to live in sin, just like the rest of the world, obeying the devil—the commander of the powers in the unseen world.[a] He is the spirit at work in the hearts of those who refuse to obey God. 3 All of us used to live that way, following the passionate desires and inclinations of our sinful nature. By our very nature we were subject to God’s anger, just like everyone else. 4 But God is so rich in mercy, and he loved us so much, 5 that even though we were dead because of our sins, he gave us life when he raised Christ from the dead.

    the question that Jesus ask echos in my ear, I tell you that He will bring about justice for them quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?”

    thinking of the pharisee praying in the temple thinking he was righteous and the tax collector thinking he was a sinner. only one was close to the truth.

    why would a righteous person need a Savior?

  86. Beloved says:

    Thanks pooh for further explanation regarding your position.

  87. Beloved says:

    Your questions pooh: 1. yes 2. yes 3.rarely.

  88. Beloved says:

    poohpity says:
    November 25, 2018 at 2:25 pm
    street, but yet in common sense thinking you can speak about things you know nothing about as if you do, often. Do you seek God or just babble before He replies.

    Rude, pooh.

  89. street says:

    23 And we believers also groan, even though we have the Holy Spirit within us as a foretaste of future glory, for we long for our bodies to be released from sin and suffering. We, too, wait with eager hope for the day when God will give us our full rights as his adopted children,* including the new bodies he has promised us. 24 We were given this hope when we were saved. (If we already have something, we don’t need to hope* for it. 25 But if we look forward to something we don’t yet have, we must wait patiently and confidently.)

  90. street says:

    Psalm 136:23
    He remembered us in our weakness. His faithful love endures forever.

  91. Beloved says:

    Matt 28:19-20 you mentioned pooh. It says to make disciples by teaching them to obey all the commands Jesus gave them. Are you above this? Are any of us? Mart was able to explain to where you finally understood his post so I know you are teachable, unless it was just lip service. So, when you explain the ways of Jesus do you then say, it’s up to you though to follow or not. I’m just a messenger, see ya. Seems cold and careless to me.

  92. street says:

    Yet it was our weaknesses he carried;
    it was our sorrows that weighed him down.
    And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God,
    a punishment for his own sins!
    But he was pierced for our rebellion,
    crushed for our sins.
    He was beaten so we could be whole.
    He was whipped so we could be healed.

  93. jeff1 says:

    God wants us to do our best and He will do the rest. He wants us to focus on Jesus for our strength, grace and comfort and in doing so we have empathy for each other instead of being critical and having expectations of others that are divisive and not in keeping with what Jesus teaches.

    As I walk I can either look to Jesus and humble myself and please God or don’t and please myself but if I do the latter then I have no right to say I am submitting to God and need to examine myself and ask God for help to change me as that is what will bring me closer to God in the end.

  94. Beloved says:

    Psalm 136:23 thinking of Paul’s testimony as My Utmost brings out his humility- preaching Christ alone- living in the basement while his critics were living in the upstairs.

  95. Beloved says:

    You are right pooh that we can’t force anyone to turn to Christ, but we can agree that it’s the power of the cross that changes lives for eternity. Not us.

  96. Beloved says:

    “Do as I say, not as I do”

    I have never said that to anyone, although my dad used to say it quite often to justify his rage. I remember hearing you used to say that to your kids; how did that work out?

  97. Beloved says:

    My point is that children need to see examples of Christ-likeness while they are growing up, it gives them hope and courage for the world they will someday be involved with as adults. Our examples are those who also give hope and courage as we face the end of our lives here. The hope and courage I share is my faith in Christ Jesus who has kept me safe this far, and I trust will keep me until the day He returns. That is our example, an enduring faith in the One who loves us so much He gave His only Son that whoever believes in Him will have everlasting life, abundantly!

  98. jeff1 says:

    There Is Nothing Greater Than Grace

    What do you say to someone
    Who feels like they’ve lost it all
    Over the edge, with no one there to break their fall
    And what do you say to someone
    Who feels so unloved
    Giving themselves away
    A little bit everyday
    Just to be good enough

    And what do you say to a hopeless soul
    Who can’t remember their way home
    And everything is out of their control

    There is no valley
    There is no darkness
    There is no sorrow
    Greater than the grace of Jesus
    There is no moment
    There is no distance
    There is no heartbreak
    He can’t take you through
    So before you think that you’re too lost to save
    Remember there is nothing greater than grace

    What do you say to someone
    Whose life is on the line
    And they’re unsure what happens after their last breath in time
    What do you say to someone who’s built a wall you can’t break through
    And it’s so hard for them to hear the truth

    What do you say to a life of regret
    That’s trying so hard to forget
    What do you say to dreams unmet

    Don’t lose heart
    Don’t let go
    Don’t give up
    You are not alone

  99. poohpity says:

    Beloved, what are the commands of Jesus? In reference to your 3:44pm comment.

    Gal 6: Pay careful attention to your own work, for then you will get the satisfaction of a job well done, and you won’t need to compare yourself to anyone else. 5 For we are each responsible for our own conduct.

  100. poohpity says:

    Faith is a gift from God, it comes from God(Romans 12:3 NLT; Eph 2:8 NLT). Trust and depending is an act of our own will when we let go of doing things our own way and turn them over to God. Hope is also something we have in God when we let go and trust in Him. So they are not the same.

  101. poohpity says:

    Where is the mercy when one does not belong to the gang? There is open favoritism for it’s members but no mercy for those who do not belong but there is 5+ that attack one, where is the mercy in that? Bullies do not show mercy they seem bent on destroying someone’s character and not with facts either but assumptions, perspectives and opinions. Where is the mercy?

    WHERE IS THE MERCY? Mercy is not sincere if it is only shown to those who act like us in return.

  102. Beloved says:

    Pooh you are so predictable I knew what you were going to complain/argue about before you responded. I have nothing more to say tonight.

  103. Beloved says:

    Bless you, sister.

  104. poohpity says:

    “If OUR happiness and sanity is based on the expectation that other people will change, we’ve just handed THEM the reins of our lives.” Mike Bechtle from his book; People can’t drive you crazy if you don’t give them the keys.

    Joyce, you knew as much about what I was going to say as you did about street being a doctor or a pastor. lol

  105. Beloved says:


  106. Beloved says:

    1. The “gang” shows no mercy to me.
    2. Arguing over words/ scripture translation.

    You are very predictable, pooh.

  107. Beloved says:

    Oh, and put-downs.

  108. Beloved says:

    I guess I’m more merciful than I thought pooh. I don’t despise, hate or call you names. I call you sister, friend on the blog and beloved of God, as am I.

    Yes I get frustrated, angry, impatient and flabbergasted from time to time, well, often really. But because of and ONLY because Jesus loves me can I say I love you, pooh.

    Because of the LORD’S mercies we are not consumed.

  109. Beloved says:


    19 I remember my affliction and my wandering,
    the bitterness and the gall.
    20 I well remember them,
    and my soul is downcast within me.
    21 Yet this I call to mind
    and therefore I have hope:

    22 Because of the Lord’s great love we are not consumed,
    for his compassions never fail.
    23 They are new every morning;
    great is your faithfulness.

  110. poohpity says:

    Beloved, words are meaningless unless they are followed through with actions for example, “I have nothing more to say tonight.” yet there were 5 more comments. Saying you love someone then follow that with constant attacks is just plain meaningless as well. Showing mercy means showing mercy. In one breath you do show mercy but then within the next moment you totally don’t, very confusing isn’t it because what is actually in one’s heart like frustration, hate or anger comes out eventually in words. No matter how many flowery words are used to cover up or to flatter or how many scriptures are used to hide things, the real person always appears. Secrets of the heart can not be hidden long neither can one’s true self.

    I do not remember saying it is easy for me to love others(do good to them) among the constant barrage of name calling, personal attacks, assumptions or false accusations but I pray for help in that area because I can not do it on my own. Yes I fail often in showing mercy or rising above the ugliness that is why, more often than not, I try to talk about the subject instead which I also fail in that area too. It seems much better to me to talk about that then to be on a fault finding mission to get the splinters out of the eye’s of others.

    However I will address teaching that is not true to God’s word by attacking the teaching not the person doing it but I do fail at that too. I am aware of my own shortcomings and try not to put icing on to cover the flaws because I know everyone has them so maybe addressing people’s strengths is much wiser and full of mercy. I am a broken person and never said anything any different nor do I try to cover up that fact.

    Jesus said He does not demand flawless living or moral superiority but that showing mercy to be better than anything we can offer God. Matt 9:12-13 NLT

  111. poohpity says:

    Please reveal the person who has no faults, failures or shortcomings. I know often some comment on how godly and spirit filled they think they are but that alone reveals how much they are not. Only broken people find their way to the Cross to receive forgiveness, mercy and grace. Then they come to realize after that encounter with Jesus that no one has any room to talk about others.

  112. SFDBWV says:

    Joyce I think I may have figured out why this subject disturbs you, me and perhaps some others.

    While it is certainly true we are to be “Thankful” for God’s mercy the idea of receiving it reminds us of why we need it.

    I can be thankful for lots of things in my life all of which are reminders of where my “happiness” and joy come from, but remembering why I perhaps have been forgiven and shown mercy reminds me of things I would rather forget.

    Things perhaps I am not proud of, or am ashamed of. Memories of an uglier past or past mistakes.

    No I think if we sat around a table and recalled mercy, as Mart suggested, it would be very uncomfortable.

    Some things need to remain between God and us where our vulnerability is safe.


  113. jeff1 says:

    Some things need to remain between God and us where our vulnerability is safe.

    Thinking that shows that each of us trust God more than we trust each other and perhaps the reason for that is that God is more merciful to each of us than we are to each other.

  114. SFDBWV says:

    Well said Viv.


  115. poohpity says:

    I wonder then why we are guided in God’s word to share those imperfections with each other? I think that is so we can see we have more in common with each other in our faults, failures, imperfections, struggles and shortcoming so people will not feel superior to others.(James 5:16 NLT; Acts 19:18) If we have nothing to hide from God then why does one try to do that from others who can do nothing to us one way or the other.

    I guess if someone has shared their shortcomings with me and I have used that against them, I would be afraid to share mine. I would so much rather hear how in need someone is of a Savior(humility) than to hear how they think they are the savior, godly and spirit filled and do nothing wrong(pride).

    Proverbs 16:19-19 NLT
    Matt 5: 2 And he opened his mouth and taught them, saying:

    3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

    5 “Blessed are the meek, for they shall inherit the earth.

    6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

    7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

    8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

    9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

  116. poohpity says:

    Proverbs 16:18-19 NLT

  117. cbrown says:

    Good morning all!I encourage us all to read and reread the “Our Daily Bread” for 11/26/2018,today.The insight comment included is what I needed today.Love, Chris

    “James Limburg comments on today’s passage in his book Interpretation: Hosea—Micah: ‘The contrast which comes to expression in Hosea 6:6 is between two fundamentally different notions of religion. The one thinks in terms of discharging religious obligations through . . . sacrifice and offering; the other speaks of loyal love and of acknowledging God as God. . . . When religion becomes preoccupied with the niceties of liturgy, the nuances of language, the novelties of music, art, and architecture, but forgets the neighbor, then religion has been reduced to cultic correctness . . . . True religion has that rich word hesed [steadfast love] at its center, recalling God’s steadfast love (Ps. 136) and mercy (Titus 3:5–7) and then calling for lives which respond to that love with loyal devotion to God and loving service to the neighbor.’”

  118. Beloved says:

    I agree Steve and Viv that there are some things best left between me and God. God is infinitely more merciful than I could even imagine. But He doesn’t make us work for it I think. Which is why I have a hard time receiving it sometimes. And why it may be turned away when given. Just think if some of our lives were written about in scripture! What would the ‘ moral’ of the story be? I think that’s why we pursue God each in our own way in our own time and through our own means. Yet ultimately because of His unfailing love He is pursuing us at the same time!! Oh mercy!

  119. Beloved says:

    Thank you, Chris. So great to hear from you! God bless you!

  120. Beloved says:

    And thank you pooh for reminding me how far short I fall. God has a lot to teach me yet. God bless you.

  121. Beloved says:

    Luke 7:36-50 is a wonderful story of faith leading to forgiveness. Knowing we are sinners when we come to Jesus for mercy is humiliating but the reward is great.

  122. Beloved says:

    Since we all come to Jesus as sinners we could put any of our names there in place of “woman” in the story. Mustard seed size faith is all that’s needed.

  123. poohpity says:

    “If we do not get healing for what hurt us, then we will bleed on those who did not cut us.”

  124. street says:

    even so grace would reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

    to live is Christ.

  125. poohpity says:

    Coming to Jesus for mercy is humiliating? For me it was freeing and of much relief. I was not humiliated but humbled.

    street, what does, “to live is Christ” mean to you?

  126. jeff1 says:

    In Christ Alone

    In Christ alone my hope is found
    He is my light, my strength, my song
    This Cornerstone, this solid ground
    Firm through the fiercest drought and storm

    What heights of love, what depths of peace
    When fears are stilled, when strivings cease
    My Comforter, my All in All
    Here in the love of Christ I stand

    In Christ alone, who took on flesh
    Fullness of God in helpless babe
    This gift of love and righteousness
    Scorned by the ones He came to save

    ‘Til on that cross as Jesus died
    The wrath of God was satisfied
    For every sin on Him was laid
    Here in the death of Christ I live

    There in the ground His body lay
    Light of the world by darkness slain
    Then bursting forth in glorious Day
    Up from the grave He rose again

    And as He stands in victory
    Sin’s curse has lost its grip on me
    For I am His and He is mine
    Bought with the precious blood of Christ

    No guilt in life, no fear in death
    This is the power of Christ in me
    From life’s first cry to final breath
    Jesus commands my destiny

    No power of hell, no scheme of man
    Can ever pluck me from His hand
    ‘Til He returns or calls me home
    Here in the power of Christ I’ll stand

  127. cbrown says:

    Viv, I love that song!A verse that goes with it.
    Galatians 2:20 New American Standard Bible (NASB)
    20 I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and [a]the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.

  128. street says:

    Philippians 1

    paul could explain it much better than i can.

  129. street says:

    1 How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked,
    Nor stand in the path of sinners,
    Nor sit in the seat of scoffers!
    But his delight is in the law of the Lord,
    And in His law he meditates day and night.
    He will be like a tree firmly planted by streams of water,
    Which yields its fruit in its season
    And its leaf does not wither;
    And in whatever he does, he prospers.

    You are my hiding place; You preserve me from trouble;
    You surround me with songs of deliverance. Selah.

    I will instruct you and teach you in the way which you should go;
    I will counsel you with My eye upon you.
    Do not be as the horse or as the mule which have no understanding,
    Whose trappings include bit and bridle to hold them in check,
    Otherwise they will not come near to you.

    Psalm 33:11
    The counsel of the Lord stands forever, The plans of His heart from generation to generation.

    to live is Christ Psalm 107 might help in understanding a Savior that doesn’t run out on you. granted shared suffering to be conformed to Him. according to His plan and purpose. to be mastered by Him and taught. there can only be one LORD.

    i was looking for a verse that goes something like this , foolish is the man who goes to another man for counsel when they could have gone to God.

  130. street says:


    Father, it’s time.
    Display the bright splendor of your Son
    So the Son in turn may show your bright splendor.
    You put him in charge of everything human
    So he might give real and eternal life to all in his charge.
    And this is the real and eternal life:
    That they know you,
    The one and only true God,
    And Jesus Christ, whom you sent.
    I glorified you on earth
    By completing down to the last detail
    What you assigned me to do.
    And now, Father, glorify me with your very own splendor,
    The very splendor I had in your presence
    Before there was a world.

    I spelled out your character in detail
    To the men and women you gave me.
    They were yours in the first place;
    Then you gave them to me,
    And they have now done what you said.
    They know now, beyond the shadow of a doubt,
    That everything you gave me is firsthand from you,
    For the message you gave me, I gave them;
    And they took it, and were convinced
    That I came from you.
    They believed that you sent me.
    I pray for them.
    I’m not praying for the God-rejecting world
    But for those you gave me,
    For they are yours by right.
    Everything mine is yours, and yours mine,
    And my life is on display in them.
    For I’m no longer going to be visible in the world;
    They’ll continue in the world
    While I return to you.
    Holy Father, guard them as they pursue this life
    That you conferred as a gift through me,
    So they can be one heart and mind
    As we are one heart and mind.
    As long as I was with them, I guarded them
    In the pursuit of the life you gave through me;
    I even posted a night watch.
    And not one of them got away,
    Except for the rebel bent on destruction
    (the exception that proved the rule of Scripture).

    Now I’m returning to you.
    I’m saying these things in the world’s hearing
    So my people can experience
    My joy completed in them.
    I gave them your word;
    The godless world hated them because of it,
    Because they didn’t join the world’s ways,
    Just as I didn’t join the world’s ways.
    I’m not asking that you take them out of the world
    But that you guard them from the Evil One.
    They are no more defined by the world
    Than I am defined by the world.
    Make them holy—consecrated—with the truth;
    Your word is consecrating truth.
    In the same way that you gave me a mission in the world,
    I give them a mission in the world.
    I’m consecrating myself for their sakes
    So they’ll be truth-consecrated in their mission.

    I’m praying not only for them
    But also for those who will believe in me
    Because of them and their witness about me.
    The goal is for all of them to become one heart and mind—
    Just as you, Father, are in me and I in you,
    So they might be one heart and mind with us.
    Then the world might believe that you, in fact, sent me.
    The same glory you gave me, I gave them,
    So they’ll be as unified and together as we are—
    I in them and you in me.
    Then they’ll be mature in this oneness,
    And give the godless world evidence
    That you’ve sent me and loved them
    In the same way you’ve loved me.

    Father, I want those you gave me
    To be with me, right where I am,
    So they can see my glory, the splendor you gave me,
    Having loved me
    Long before there ever was a world.
    Righteous Father, the world has never known you,
    But I have known you, and these disciples know
    That you sent me on this mission.
    I have made your very being known to them—
    Who you are and what you do—
    And continue to make it known,
    So that your love for me
    Might be in them
    Exactly as I am in them.

  131. jeff1 says:

    Thank you for the verses Street, not surprising, that I sometimes feel like an alien in this world and yet I still see the hand of God in the mix.

    Such encouraging verses on what is a very dark, wet and dismal day here but somewhere over the rainbow a brighter one dawns and we have God’s word on that because God’s mercy is beyond my understanding and why I am speechless today in His presence because I know how undeserving I am of His mercy.

  132. jeff1 says:

    cbrown says:
    November 26, 2018 at 8:50 pm

    Thank you for the Biblical verse. This version of the song was written by a songwriter from Northern Ireland and England in 2001.

    I too love the song as it is so reassuring that Jesus is enough when I am so often feeling I have to do more.

  133. jeff1 says:

    jeff1 says:
    November 27, 2018 at 6:53 am

    Thinking I should have said ‘by songwriters’ rather than ‘by a songwriter’.

  134. poohpity says:

    street, I know what it means to Paul and what he says but I was just wondering in your words what it means to you since it was you who signed off your post with it. (1 Peter 3:15 NIV) What if someone, who you were talking with, asked you about what that means and you did not have a bible with you what would you say? From your heart what does it mean to you? That is more of a rhetorical question, no need to answer.

    Sometimes one can toss around many sayings or scriptures around not knowing what they truly mean or how to apply them to our lives or how to live them out. I think that is what happens with the concept of mercy and grace.

  135. poohpity says:

    More rhetorical questions;

    What does mercy mean to you?

    What stops one from showing it to others?

  136. SFDBWV says:

    When contemplating “mercy” I am reminded of the stark contrast between the two Bible stories of no mercy and full exoneration.

    People who simply gathered firewood on Sabbath stoned to death and of course the woman caught in adultery and allowed to go free.

    Yet then I wonder where was mercy when a husband and wife held back some of the money from the sale of their property and died as a result of lying to the Holy Spirit?

    Where is mercy when 1/3 of all life dies during the “Great Tribulation”? And where is mercy during the second resurrection. And why is Satan and the fallen Angels denied it?

    Is mercy conditional?

    If you have ever been given mercy it feels good, but if you have ever granted it, it feels even better.

    24 degrees after a night of light snow (2 inches).


  137. Beloved says:

    With the thought of mercy, what comes to mind?

    Comfort, Assurance

    Scripture: Isaiah 40:11; Psalm 73:26

    There is a place of quiet rest,
    Near to the heart of God;
    A place where sin cannot molest,
    Near to the heart of God.
    O Jesus, blest Redeemer,
    Sent from the heart of God;
    Hold us, who wait before Thee,
    Near to the heart of God.
    There is a place of comfort sweet,
    Near to the heart of God;
    A place where we our Savior meet,
    Near to the heart of God.
    There is a place of full release,
    Near to the heart of God;
    A place where all is joy and peace,
    Near to the heart of God.

  138. Beloved says:

    Great questions steve. My 2 cents worth is something Piper said, You don’t show mercy to evil. So then, what is evil and can it be redeemed, is my next thought. What if evil refuses redemption, then what? I will know when I see Him face to face I read. Until then, a mystery?

  139. jeff1 says:

    Inspirational quotes from C. S. Lewis.

    “The heart never takes the place of the head: but it can, and should, obey it.”

    “Free will, though it makes evil possible, is also the only thing that makes possible any love or goodness or joy worth having.”

    “Though our feelings come and go, his love for us does not.”

    “We are mirrors whose brightness is wholly derived from the sun that shines upon us.”

    “Faith is the art of holding on to things your reason has once accepted in spite of your changing moods.”

    “Everyone says forgiveness is a lovely idea, until they have something to forgive.”

    “Reality is not neat, not obvious, not what you expect.”

    “The door on which we have been knocking all our lives will open at last.”

    “It is not your business to succeed, but to do right; when you have done so, the rest lies with God.”

    Thinking of the last quote and how my failures can overwhelm me and make me question if I have made the right choices.

    What I don’t know I leave with God and the answer comes in time.

    Steve you ask is mercy conditional? It seems to me that the condition is that I admit I need mercy to receive it. However if a person does not see their need then how does God see that, it’s very much up to God I believe.

    I have to accept that God is all knowing and I am not and trust His superior knowledge and power.

  140. Beloved says:

    Hebrews10 has something to say about it I think steve.

  141. jeff1 says:

    Posted by Mart DeHaan
    November 22nd, 2018

    We’d probably get stuck for a while on the unnerving thought that, as this celebration of goodness unfolds, what is merciful to some seems merciless to others.

    My mum had a saying that would seem to be true when I look at my country. She would say one persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist or one person’s meat is another persons poison.

    I realise the older I get I know very little about what goes on in the world and I am very much depending on God as it is He who has the answers to tough questions.

    God’s ways are a mystery when I cannot understand them but that just might be my blindness and not God’s intention.

    Known Only to Him

    Known only to him are the great hidden secrets
    I’ll fear not the darkness when my flame shall dim
    I know not what the future holds
    But I know who holds the future
    It’s a secret known only to Him

    In this world of fear and doubt
    On my knees I ask the question
    Why a lonely, heavy cross I must bear
    Then he tells me in my prayer
    It’s because I am trustworthy
    He gives me strength far more than my share

    Known only to him are the great hidden secrets
    I’ll fear not the darkness when my flame shall dim
    I know not what the future holds
    But I know who holds the future
    It’s a secret known only to him

  142. Beloved says:

    30 Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 Therefore I tell you, every sin and blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 And whoever speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

  143. Beloved says:

    Thinking that annanias & sophira lied to the holy spirit.

    reading the previous verses carefully there was a distinction between speaking against the Son of Man, Jesus in the flesh (pharisees, Jews) for whom mercy was provided for through the atonement. But afterward, once the atonement has been made, there is no further justification that can be made as Hebrews 10 states. And lying to God you’re toast, so to speak. Steve I think I understand this better myself now. Thank you for your thoughtful questions!

  144. Beloved says:

    Mercy: getting what we don’t deserve.

    Thinking that if God is just a concept then it stands to reason that ALL should receive mercy ALL the time. But God is a real entity, as we witnessed in Jesus. So lying to Him is His right to punish, I think. Eternal separation? Justice and mercy are hard to reconcile but we’re just human. Dust, wise in our own eyes, naked poor and blind.

  145. Beloved says:

    The wisdom of Man is as the foolishness of God.

  146. Beloved says:

    Genesis 16:13 The Message (MSG)
    13 She answered God by name, praying to the God who spoke to her, “You’re the God who sees me!

    “Yes! He saw me; and then I saw him!”

  147. poohpity says:

    I don’t think I have ever heard anyone say that God is a concept.

  148. street says:

    Is mercy conditional?

    chosen before the foundation

    was reading where the Father gives Jesus the ones He wants redeemed. the Sovereignty of God in all things.

    we are use to dualism and destruction, we are not fully understanding absolute perfection. no darkness no ignorance no vanity no unclean thing……………….

    Psalm 89 speaks of His immutable Word and ability to complete want He set out to do and the pain involved.

    truly a Great Mercy.

  149. Beloved says:

    89 I will sing of the mercies of the Lord for ever: with my mouth will I make known thy faithfulness to all generations.

    Spurgeon describes Gods faithfulness as the mercy of mercies!

  150. Beloved says:

    Absolute perfection is very hard to understand. I wonder if we are meant to, thinking of Moses hiding his face. I know it’s Gods mercy that has little by little opened my eyes to the depths of depravity/sin in my soul. Yet always with a healing Balm ready.
    Dualism, I’ve been thinking about the prevalence of it. Could it be the compartmentalized of awareness until one is ready to relinquish complete control to Gods sovereignty? Just wondering.

  151. street says:

    Dualism, I’ve been thinking about the prevalence of it. Could it be the compartmentalized of awareness until one is ready to relinquish complete control to Gods sovereignty? Just wondering.

    thinking more along the line of complete trust in a Loving Father,known through a risen Savior,Jesus, revealed through the Holy Spirit, responding in Spirit and Truth with great joy. i think fear and reverence is in there somewhere too. reminded perfect love cast out fear, grace and mercy in Christ Jesus. some day face to face, salvation! faith hope and love. unworthy servants who only did what You asked us to do. love one another as I have loved you. forgiving them too.

  152. street says:

    God speaking to moses in EXODUS 33:

    14 The Lord replied, “My Presence will go with you, and I will give you rest.”

    19 And the Lord said, “I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim my name, the Lord, in your presence. I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. 20 But,” he said, “you cannot see my face, for no one may see me and live.”

    thinking His Goodness passed before us and we are to follow, Jesus. Hebrews 1

  153. jeff1 says:

    1 Stand up! stand up for Jesus!
    Ye soldiers of the cross;
    Lift high His royal banner,
    It must not suffer loss:
    From vict’ry unto vict’ry
    His army shall He lead,
    Till every foe is vanquished
    And Christ is Lord indeed.

    Stand up! stand up for Jesus
    Ye soldiers of the cross;
    Lift high His royal banner,
    It must not, it must not suffer loss.

    2 Stand up! stand up for Jesus!
    The trumpet call obey;
    Forth to the mighty conflict
    In this His glorious day.
    Ye that are men, now serve Him
    Against unnumbered foes;
    Let courage rise with danger.
    And strength to strength oppose.

    3 Stand up! stand up for Jesus!
    Stand in His strength alone;
    The arm of flesh will fail you;
    Ye dare not trust your own.
    Put on the Gospel armour,
    And, watching unto prayer,
    Where duty calls, or danger,
    Be never wanting there.

    4 Stand up! stand up for Jesus!
    The strife will not be long:
    This day the noise of battle,
    The next the victor’s song;
    To him that overcometh
    A crown of life shall be;
    He, with the King of glory,
    Shall reign eternally.

  154. poohpity says:

    It seems under the direction of Jesus for those who followed Him, “Go and learn what this means, I want you to show mercy, not offer sacrifices.” I wonder how come that was so important to Him?

    That was carried over from the OT from the prophet Hosea when God stressed to him, “For I desire mercy, not sacrifice, and the knowledge of God rather than burnt offerings.”

    Then again to Micah, God told him what He desires from mankind, “You mortals, the LORD has told you what is good. This is what the LORD requires from you: to do what is right, to love mercy, and to live humbly with your God.”

    I wonder what makes mercy so important to God for those who love Him? Why is it sort of a bottom line in our faith journey?

    In the exodus from Egypt the people asked God to tell them how He wanted them to live so God gave the the law and He would not be a very JUST God if they were allowed to break it and get buy with it. Although He put into effect the sacrificial system but unless someone came to the priest and shared how they broke the law and felt the sorrow or repentance of doing so then consequences followed, like the stoning of the man who went to get sticks on the Sabbath. Had He let that go then the next Sabbath someone else would have done the same thing, then maybe two, then three and so on. We serve a just God.

    Jesus’ death on the Cross was not only for those present at the time but for the people of the past and future. If one believes that death is the final thing of our being then there is no hope for life eternal. (Matt 27:52-53) That seems very merciful to me.

    I know as a parent if I had let my children continue on a path that lead them to hurt themselves or others and did not correct them, what terrors they would become and unfit to be around anyone.

  155. poohpity says:

    However I agree with Steve that there are many things in the OT that seems pretty harsh to me and I probably would do things differently if I were God but I am not. God knows what He is doing, He can see the future and what would happen if He had not intervened, so I must take the bad with the good, trusting that God knows what is best for not only me but for everyone in the world past, present and future.

  156. poohpity says:

    If showing mercy shows how grateful I am for what He did for me, then with His help I will show mercy to others no matter what they do to me. I once was an enemy of God but that did not stop Him from showing forgiveness, mercy and grace towards me.

    We can be full of joy because;

    Therefore, since we have been made right in God’s sight by faith, we have peace with God because of what Jesus Christ our Lord has done for us. 2 Because of our faith, Christ has brought us into this place of undeserved privilege where we now stand, and we confidently and joyfully look forward to sharing God’s glory.

    3 We can rejoice, too, when we run into problems and trials, for we know that they help us develop endurance. 4 And endurance develops strength of character, and character strengthens our confident hope of salvation. 5 And this hope will not lead to disappointment. For we know how dearly God loves us, because he has given us the Holy Spirit to fill our hearts with his love.

    6 When we were utterly helpless, Christ came at just the right time and died for us sinners. 7 Now, most people would not be willing to die for an upright person, though someone might perhaps be willing to die for a person who is especially good. 8 But God showed his great love for us by sending Christ to die for us while we were still sinners. 9 And since we have been made right in God’s sight by the blood of Christ, he will certainly save us from God’s condemnation. 10 For since our friendship with God was restored by the death of his Son while we were still his enemies, we will certainly be saved through the life of his Son. 11 So now we can rejoice in our wonderful new relationship with God because our Lord Jesus Christ has made us friends of God.

  157. street says:

    My guess is that if we could sit down around the same table— and share a meal of memories about some of the mercy we’ve seen and received, there would be a lot of smiles and a few tears.
    We’d probably get stuck for a while on the unnerving thought that, as this celebration of goodness unfolds, what is merciful to some seems merciless to others.

    i think the stuck part is judgment. some seeing it as mercy and others seeing as not mercy. each act of mercy was in relation to judgment. God’s judgment and God’s mercy. the verse earlier about judgment was for the purpose of learning righteousness. it seems we cry out when we are in the valley,the end of our resources. look for the bread of life and living water in the valley. like mart said earlier our biggest mistake was not all the other rules that have come since our not trusting God’s Word, but trusting Him. finding His Word in us should cause a great delight in us and others. yet i find myself from time to time angry or upset? not because of righteousness, but because self will. we know our anger is not good and can not honor God, self willed.

    21 So I find this law at work: Although I want to do good, evil is right there with me. 22 For in my inner being I delight in God’s law; 23 but I see another law at work in me, waging war against the law of my mind and making me a prisoner of the law of sin at work within me. 24 What a wretched man I am! Who will rescue me from this body that is subject to death? 25 Thanks be to God, who delivers me through Jesus Christ our Lord!

    So then, I myself in my mind am a slave to God’s law, but in my sinful nature a slave to the law of sin.

  158. street says:

    In a world of bullies, it shows us how grateful we can be for friends like our God— whose mercy endures forever.

    in a cursed soil, it shows us how grateful we can be for friends like our God- whose mercy endures forever. in the soil but not of it? a new Spirit. the potter is at work.

    receiving mercy on the bases of judgment,because of Jesus. how does a sinner give mercy to another sinner? grace and truth? grace and mercy? would it last?

  159. cbrown says:

    I never put it together before but God spoke to Moses on a mountain and gave him the law and God speaks to us directly in the Sermon on the Mountain and gives us a new covenant. From today’s “Daily Bread”; INSIGHT

    “In Matthew 7:24–27, Jesus says following His teachings is wise and prudent, for they are the foundation on which a full and healthy life is built. He makes this statement after giving the Sermon on the Mount, which contains what has been considered by some the most difficult and stringent guidelines for life. But we aren’t left to live this life on our own; we are dependent on the Spirit. These requirements extend beyond actions and into the thoughts and attitudes. A person who honors God with his or her whole life will remain steady in the storms of life (vv. 24–25).”

    J.R. Hudberg

  160. street says:


    Salvation on the basis of Judgment.

    reminded how unrighteous and poorly i handle the truth, judge vs learn. judge vs abide. judging the law vs living. can’t judge because we can not keep the law. learning to live.

    trust? hope? love? in Christ, risen Lord.

  161. jeff1 says:

    receiving mercy on the bases of judgement,because of Jesus. how does a sinner give mercy to another sinner? grace and truth? grace and mercy? would it last?

    What does history tell us that it doesn’t last because man’s way is not God’s way and so this world doesn’t change that much.

    It seems to me that there is much wisdom in trusting God when I look at how the world is today.

  162. jeff1 says:

    Although the topic is mercy I don’t think we can know God’s power which is ultimately how God will destroy evil and that isn’t something man can do as he has tried his way and it has failed to succeed.

    Remember C. S. Lewis’s quote:

    “It is not your business to succeed, but to do right; when you have done so, the rest lies with God.

  163. poohpity says:

    Chris, you quoted something very important and not often done that is, “A person who honors God with his or her whole life will remain steady in the storms of life.”. How many times before we do or say or think anything, does one consider if it is honoring God? Taking that moment before proceeding to either continue or stop. Do people really care what honors God, are they close enough to Him to know what pleases Him and what doesn’t it?

  164. jeff1 says:

    I don’t believe people deliberately dishonour God but often they do by wanting to be right more than giving God consideration, like the religious men at my ex husbands workplace who had got into an argument on the Bible and forgot where they were and how disrespectful it seemed to those around them.

    That is not typical of all believers as far as I am aware so I would have to say I find that most do honour God because rather than dishonour Him they would remain silent if need be.

    Getting into arguments whether with believers or non believers is not honouring God to my way of thinking.

  165. Beloved says:

    I like the comment that honoring God is described in the Beatitudes.

  166. poohpity says:

    I think it is more about intentional living.

    Usually people who argue about scripture are those who do not know that much about them and people who share the same love of them usually enjoy what someone else has experienced or learned so no arguments just good discussions sharing info, listening and learning from each other.

  167. poohpity says:

    Do we honor God if we have not learned what He meant by being merciful to our fellow human beings if that is what pleases Him which He has said in both testaments? Not whether we are in a place to judge whether God is merciful or not, being so finite in our knowledge. Isn’t that speaking of things we know nothing about when we have a hard time even being merciful to others ourselves?

  168. jeff1 says:

    I honour God when I look to Him for how to live my own life through prayer, praise and reading His word. I show mercy by being non judgemental to others and they to me.

    I know God is merciful as I have received mercy myself but I cannot tell another how their journey should be as each of us is on a different journey.

    I aim to do my best but often end up doing my worst and believe that God has forgiven me because He is much more merciful than me and if I ever doubt that I look to the Cross and remember that it is I He died for and why He is enough because I believe above all else that is what He wants me to know.

  169. Beloved says:

    Peter told us how to honor God:

    But if you suffer for doing good and endure it patiently, God is pleased with you.

    21For God called you to do good, even if it means suffering, just as Christ suffered for you. He is your example, and you must follow in his steps.

    22He never sinned,
    nor ever deceived anyone.
    23He did not retaliate when he was insulted,
    nor threaten revenge when he suffered.
    He left his case in the hands of God,
    who always judges fairly.
    24He personally carried our sins
    in his body on the cross
    so that we can be dead to sin
    and live for what is right.
    By his wounds
    you are healed.
    25Once you were like sheep
    who wandered away.
    But now you have turned to your Shepherd,
    the Guardian of your souls.

  170. foreverblessed says:

    Our Shepherd, the Guardian of our souls.

    And thank you Cbrown, for that comment on Jesus on the Mountain, and Moses on the Mountain. I have never seen that either, that is a great insight to me.
    Moses said: Deut 18:18, whene the Prophet comes, listen to Him.
    And that Prophet set an a mountain!

    It it this comment that made me come back and write.

  171. foreverblessed says:

    This morning I read: The meaning of the name Johnis:

    God is Mercy.

    Luke 1:60,63

    The whole essence of the Gospel in one name.

  172. SFDBWV says:

    Why do any of you believe in God? Why do any of you believe in Jesus?

    Is it because you were raised to?

    Did you have a religious experience?

    Is it fear of eternal punishment?

    The famous John Wayne battled with cancer until his death and converted to Catholicism prior to dying.

    The hip-cat member of the “rat pack” Sammy Davis Jr. A life-long Christian converted to Judaism toward the end of his life as he bounced back and forth in his “afterlife” worries wanting to cover all bases…”Just in case”.

    People on planet earth all share in good times and bad regardless of their faith or lack of any.

    So why is it that “mercy” is important to you apart from being given mercy or forgiveness from each other or in some cases handed down from a judge?

    It is written in the Bible that only “faith” pleases God. It is also written that we are to live “holy” lives. Is that to please God or to give us a more guilt free life?

    Odd isn’t it how some people feel shame and guilt where others feel no remorse for their actions, ever.

    There are some somewhat disturbing language in Scripture whereby the words “preordained”, or “chosen” designate those among us who God set aside for His purpose including “salvation”.

    If there are people chosen, then they are set apart from other people, so what about the unchosen are they not also afforded “mercy”?

    Using the language of Jesus if the wheat is separated from the chaff, is the chaff then shown no mercy because it has no use?

    The fig tree that Jesus cursed was cursed because it bore no fruit. No mercy shown there.

    Somewhere in all of this we are given the ability to choose to instinctively believe and recognize Jesus when introduced to Him for who He is.

    Mercy then given for all who accept, “preordained” and “chosen” from before the foundation of the world.

    Hanging on the cross Jesus’ request for forgiveness for all who are ignorant of what they are doing brings us to wonder is everyone forgiven regardless of “choice” and given eternal “mercy”?

    So who are those raised at the second resurrection judged and thrown into the lake of fire without mercy?

    Those who made the wrong choice or those not chosen?

    16 degrees with plenty of snow on the ground.


  173. poohpity says:

    If it is true that God is all knowing then didn’t he know before time those who would come to believe in Him thus preordained and chosen. Some make a choice not to come to know Him but the invitation is open to ALL. If someone does not want to have a relationship with God, He does not force His love, forgiveness, mercy or grace on anyone after all God is not a dictator. People make a choice.

    I was brought up in the Lutheran religion and even confirmed at 14 but accepted Christ as my Savior in a Baptist Church at 9 but had no idea about a personal relationship with God until 1989 at 36. During the in between time I heard Him calling out to me and put a desire in my heart to really come to know Him and not go through a Priest or Pastor. He never gave up on me and when things got so rough He was the only place I had to turn that was when I let go of doing things my way and was open to His guidance.

    I had a lot of things in my past that I so desperately needed His forgiveness, mercy and grace. The Holy Spirit still convicts me of my need for mercy because I know I often fall short in many areas but He picks me up brushes me off and sets my feet on His firm foundation and gives me the love and encouragement to give it another try and then another try, everyday I get another chance to look to Him and follow His leading. I do not have to be perfect just be in a process of becoming, learning, growing and maturing.

    But it is to me all a choice. Do I want to act as everyone else does in the world and in the flesh or do I make the choice of mercy and dependence? Do I hold grudges or let bitterness take root in my heart or do I turn those things over to God who is better equipped to deal with those things?

    I still remember till this day the very moment that I received God’s forgiveness when I was 9. At nine I had done, as some would say, nothing that horrible but disobey my parents and fight with my brother but I was forgiven. So when the time came at 36 of total surrender and the things I had done to get there that moment and then accept His mercy it was life changing, the mercy, forgiveness and grace was even greater and a fire was started in my heart. There are times now when that fire becomes a glow of embers but in those times I ask God to blow on those embers and start that fire within me again. I get complacent and take God’s care for granted, then life happens and I get caught up in circumstances which causes doubt but He never let’s me go because He is always a cry for HELP away.

    There is always mercy for anyone who wants it but the hard part is coming to realize that one needs it. One does not know they need it if they think they are good, godly and righteous all in and of themselves.

  174. foreverblessed says:

    What a questions Steve.
    I myself have often wondered about all these things.
    And for me, the scripture of 1 Cor 13 covers it all for me:
    God is always hoping.
    Always HOPE.

    And then in the Psalms:
    All who call on Me, I will save.

    That to me is also: always, when people call, and they call with all their heart, God will hear.
    To me that means, that even when they are in hell, and they call, God will answer.

    I said: to me, personally.
    When I found out that the words forever in greek and in Hebrew, is really saying: ages and ages
    Then after ages and ages, things can change.
    That also made it for me possible to believe that for ages and ages God is hoping.

    It also means to me, that when we are in heaven, for ages and ages we will embrace people who finally did come out of hell. Restoring them, loving them.

    I said, “to me” I myself hope that this is how it really is.
    It means, I have been thinking…..
    And I share my thoughts here.

    As the apostles had a wrong view of Christ, they thought that He would be a literal King 2000 years ago, they thought He would throw down the Roman Empire, and rule their nation. And they would sit with Him on that throne, on the right and on the left.

    Well, they had a wrong interpretation of the prophecies.

    That is why I believe, we could have it all wrong, with our interpretation of a hell forever. Meaning with no end.
    But again, it is what I have been thinking.

    I hope I am not wrong, and that there will be MERCY for all who call on His Name, whenever that would be.

    Even if they have been in hell for ages and ages.

  175. foreverblessed says:

    And the chosen…

    The ones that are chosen, to me it seems, they are the ones that God will work with first.
    Just as Christ is the firstfruit.
    The Firstfruit of all who believe.

    Predestined to be called.

    As I said, the chosen I believe are the ones that will see all the others coming in, one by one.

    I have had an upbringing is a different sort of church.
    Where we kept the Holy Days, Leviticus 23:1-44.
    That church gave interpretations of their meaning in future events.
    Of Passover, and Pentecost, these ones have been fulfilled in Christ, on the exact date.
    But there is still the Feast of Ttrumpets
    (They said: that is the secons coming of Christ on the earth, with the souns of Trumpets)
    The day of Atonement,
    (what event in the future that will be, they said it is the binding of Satan and the sending to the Abyss Rev 20:1-3)
    (But I think it could mean the mourning of the Jews of the One they have pierced, Zech 12:10-14
    I remember Mart giving these verses of Zecheriah of the eyes of the Jews being opened to see Jesus, the Messiah they have longed for for so long.

    Then the Feast of Tabernacles, 7 days
    Leviticus 23:33-44
    What event in the future does it portray?
    It could mean the thousand year reign of Jesus on earth, Rev 20:4-6

    But then last but not least,

    the Last Great day of the Feast of Tabernacles.
    The Feast is 7 days, but then on the 8th day you will have a sacred assembly Lev 23:36

  176. poohpity says:

    When Jesus died and was resurrected His Spirit poured forth on the world because He wanted everyone to experience a relationship with God and come to know Him. John 3:16-17 NIV; For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. 17 For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.

    John 16:7-11 NLT; But in fact, it is best for you that I go away, because if I don’t, the Advocate won’t come. If I do go away, then I will send him to you. 8 And when he comes, he will convict the world of its sin, and of God’s righteousness, and of the coming judgment. 9 The world’s sin is that it refuses to believe in me. 10 Righteousness is available because I go to the Father, and you will see me no more. 11 Judgment will come because the ruler of this world has already been judged.

  177. foreverblessed says:

    On the last and Greatest Day of the Feast,
    Jesus stood and said IN A LOUD VOICE:

    “If a man is thirsty, let him come to Me and drink.
    Whoever believes in Me, as the scripture has said, streams of living water will flow from within him”.
    By this He meant the Spirit, whom those who believed in Him were later to receive.
    John 7:37-39

  178. foreverblessed says:

    Having lived with the knowledge of that Last Great day, has always given me the hope that even after Jesus had come back, that Jesus would still cry with a loud voice, after the thousand years had ended, the event written about in Rev 20:7-11

    Jesus cried with a loud voice, as if He was calling into the far ahead future, His voice would still be heard

    Come to Me

  179. foreverblessed says:

    If you do not see it the same way as I do, please do not call me: “twisting of words” “false teacher” “can you consider the fact that maybe you did not have recieved the Holy Spirit” Please do not use these words.
    And if you do, I pray to God:
    Lord, forgive them, they do not know what they are doing.

    And if you still do that, I know I have a Friend, a great Friend, Who is at my side, the Great Shepherd.
    And Who is also at your side, loving you, and training you.

  180. poohpity says:

    Whenever I think that someone in hell can change their minds I remember what Jesus taught in the parable of the rich man and Lazarus in Luke 16:

    Jesus said, “There was a certain rich man who was splendidly clothed in purple and fine linen and who lived each day in luxury. 20 At his gate lay a poor man named Lazarus who was covered with sores. 21 As Lazarus lay there longing for scraps from the rich man’s table, the dogs would come and lick his open sores.

    22 “Finally, the poor man died and was carried by the angels to sit beside Abraham at the heavenly banquet. The rich man also died and was buried, 23 and he went to the place of the dead. There, in torment, he saw Abraham in the far distance with Lazarus at his side.

    24 “The rich man shouted, ‘Father Abraham, have some pity! Send Lazarus over here to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue. I am in anguish in these flames.’

    25 “But Abraham said to him, ‘Son, remember that during your lifetime you had everything you wanted, and Lazarus had nothing. So now he is here being comforted, and you are in anguish. 26 And besides, there is a great chasm separating us. No one can cross over to you from here, and no one can cross over to us from there.’

    27 “Then the rich man said, ‘Please, Father Abraham, at least send him to my father’s home. 28 For I have five brothers, and I want him to warn them so they don’t end up in this place of torment.’

    29 “But Abraham said, ‘Moses and the prophets have warned them. Your brothers can read what they wrote.’

    30 “The rich man replied, ‘No, Father Abraham! But if someone is sent to them from the dead, then they will repent of their sins and turn to God.’

    31 “But Abraham said, ‘If they won’t listen to Moses and the prophets, they won’t be persuaded even if someone rises from the dead.’”

  181. poohpity says:

    That is why it seems imperative to share the Good News while people are still alive and the very reason for the great commission “To go tell”.

  182. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed and pooh I find both of your comments interesting and grounded in what BTA is about. What we may think, honest thoughts. Thank you both for your response to mine.

    Foreverblessed you are very good at the explanation of the feasts, I often get lost trying to remember them and their full meaning beyond their original use in Jewish tradition. Thank you for the refresher.

    I too see Jesus in all of the feasts and I also see a time when there are none left out and apart from God. If I did not see it that way how could the idea that “God’s mercies endure forever” be true?

    Pooh I have come to believe that Jesus not only was explaining the separation and punishment for sin in the story of Lazarus and the rich man, but explaining to the “Sadducees” that there is life after death. And an eternal consequence for our actions or inactions.

    Also I have come to believe that during that time between Jesus’ death and resurrection Jesus went into that place of torment and preached the Gospel. I can’t imagine anyone choosing to stay in torment after being given “Mercy” and “Grace”. That reference can be found in 1 Peter 3:18-20 KJV. Whereas ordinary people can’t go between the great void, God is everywhere His creation is.

    Certainly it makes sense that time is of the essence for we believers to share the Gospel to all so that they too can escape judgement and the threat of “hell”. If it were revealed that everyone gets forgiven and no one goes to hell in the end there would be no necessity to share the Gospel at all.

    However sharing the Gospel is what Jesus wants believers to do. Staying in an attitude of working for God in the concern for the eternal condition of “everyone”.

    The focus being the concern for others.

    A lot to think about and consider.

    I won’t be back today as Matt and I are off to Morgantown to see my cardiologist for my six month checkup. He always enjoys the trip as we always eat at “Wendy’s” before coming home.

    Good day and blessings to all.


  183. poohpity says:

    When Jesus died on the Cross it was for the sins of the past as well as the present and future, those who looked forward to the coming of the Messiah yet died or fell asleep between then and His birth. (1 Peter 3:18 NLT) Those in prison seems to start with Adam and Eve because all sinned then we come to, “19 So he went and preached to the spirits in prison— 20 those who disobeyed God long ago when God waited patiently while Noah was building his boat. Only eight people were saved from drowning in that terrible flood. 21 And that water is a picture of baptism, which now saves you, not by removing dirt from your body, but as a response to God from a clean conscience. It is effective because of the resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    22 Now Christ has gone to heaven. He is seated in the place of honor next to God, and all the angels and authorities and powers accept his authority.

  184. poohpity says:

    That explanation of “preached to those in prison” has to take other texts into consideration as this teacher explains.

    The apostle then says, “in which” (i.e., in his spirit), Christ went and preached unto the “spirits in prison” that were disobedient in the days of Noah.

    Some people believe this passage teaches that during the three days his body was in the tomb, Jesus went into the spirit-world of the imprisoned lost. At that time, according to this theory, the Lord preached the gospel to those who died lost during the time of Noah’s flood.

    The passage simply cannot mean this—and for the following reasons:

    The Bible clearly teaches that following death, there comes judgment (Hebrews 9:27). After one leaves this earth, there is no plan of salvation for him. The spiritual condition in which a person dies (prepared or unprepared) is that which he will possess at the time of the general resurrection (cf. Matthew 25:1-12). There is absolutely no evidence that there is a second chance for redemption following death.

    According to Christ’s instruction in the narrative regarding the rich man and Lazarus, within the spirit-world (called Hades in the American Standard Version) there is a great gulf “fixed” between the place where evil people abide and the state where good people exist (see Luke 16:26).

  185. poohpity says:

    It would seem that those that died but believed in God which we know that they sinned because no one was without sin, before the resurrection their bodies were held in the prison of death until the resurrection when the graves were opened. Matt 27:52

  186. SFDBWV says:

    1 Corinthians 15:29 KJV

    I haven’t left yet and took the time to look in for pooh’s response.

    It would appear that while Foreverblessed and I apply mercy to the lost pooh has given them up to no hope.

    Her thoughts like mine are only our thoughts with no definitive authority to be God’s design.

    I will continue to pray for the dead and if in error, as I have said before many times, I would rather err on the side of hope and love than for any other reason.

    Because I believe that God’s mercies endure forever.


  187. Beloved says:

    Steve hello, so I read I Cor. 15 and caught the fact that those in Christ will rise again when He returns. Not everybody I don’t think. I suppose one could hope that when Christ returns they might have a second chance? I can’t find anything about that though, maybe someone else can?

  188. Beloved says:

    Forever I’ve been thinking of you and wondering if you were on vacation. It gets hard to take the jabs, doesn’t it. I think they more often come out of ignorance and misreading. Please don’t take them personally, it took me a long while to get used to it but the more help I get from Jesus my own ego isn’t so defensive as it used to be. I’ve learned from the insults and that’s what matters. What would Jesus do? It’s all there in scripture and the guidance of the Spirit. I know you know this, sometimes I just need to say it out loud to myself as a reminder of how far Gods’ brought me and how much more I need to learn of His perfect ways. His mercy toward us is great indeed! His patience is astounding!

  189. Beloved says:

    Thinking of Gods mercy

    A couple weeks ago I decided to call my daughter hoping to hear her voice. After two tries i decided to try again but I was getting annoyed and had some words/thoughts that were not altogether kind I was ready to use should she answer. Well, as the phone was ringing and I was waiting suddenly God said to me “Pursue her”. I knew what He meant and my thoughts/words took a 180 and I just said I missed her and wanted to hear her voice. She had picked up but was so distant and completely detached as she recited what her family had been doing the last year. I thanked her for picking up and said I love you. I said to God, now what? She’s detached herself completely. Then God reminded me how I had failed her as a new christian just learning Gods ways: love,patience kindness etc, when she was growing up. She was 6 when I got saved and survived divorce, my mental illness, her father’s and my abuse and on and on. She has always been appreciative though of my teaching her about faith in God and is a strong Christian for which I am very thankful!

    But wounds have remained unhealed. I messaged her last week asking her to forgive me (I named specific ways I’d hurt her as a child as God showed them to me). A week later she messaged back that she’d forgiven me long ago, but my words brought to her mind things she said she thought she’d forgotten from years ago. She said my words brought her healing, and is very appreciative. I said I am thankful for Gods graciousness to her.

    I am so thankful for the mercies of God; not that I would have a better relationship with my daughter only but that she is finding freedom from her dysfunctional past/sin. Oh He’s so good!

  190. jeff1 says:

    SFDBWV says:
    November 29, 2018 at 6:17 am

    Is it because you were raised to?

    Did you have a religious experience?

    Is it fear of eternal punishment?

    I would say Yes to all three but I had a mother who was in no way religious so followed my dad’s faith.

    Mercy is necessary in a world where there is much evil and where wars happen and knowing God is merciful when I fail myself helps me overcome the guilt I feel for failing Him.

    From I was a child I felt connected to God as I was around 10 when I bought a LP record of Elvis called ‘His Hand In Mine’ and I would listen to it and feel God was with me and ever since songs and poetry make me feel closer to God in ways I cannot explain to another.

    Faith I believe is what pleases God but I don’t believe it is faith alone because how we love and support others in their need is important to God.

    This verse gives me assurance that with God there is always hope.

    “For your sake we face death all day long;
    we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[j]

    37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.

    I see God much more in the small things and why this song rings true for me.

    I believe for every drop of rain that falls
    A flower grows
    I believe that somewhere in the darkest night
    A candle glows
    I believe for everyone that goes astray
    Someone will come to show the way
    I believe
    I believe
    I believe above the storm the smallest prayer
    Will still be heard
    I believe that someone in the great somewhere
    Hears every word
    Every time I hear a newborn baby cry
    Or touch a leaf
    Or see the sky
    Then I know why
    I believe
    Every time I hear a newborn baby cry
    Or touch a leaf
    Or see the sky
    Then I know why
    I believe (Why I believe)

  191. Beloved says:

    My Utmost is good to think about today.

  192. poohpity says:

    It is not that I lack mercy at all for those who had plenty of time while alive to accept that there is a God but the fact remains they did not want to know God. He was there the whole time and ready to accept them into His loving arms, they just did not want anything to do with Him. He just does not force Himself on anyone. All creation proves there is a God but those who have died without knowing Him, do not want to know Him, that is what hell is separation from God. God does not violate free will, nor does He drag people into His Kingdom kicking and screaming. Jesus said there is no crossing over from hell to heaven. I believe what He says that does not mean He is merciless because God has been here all along but people turned away from Him.

    Jesus also said, “22 Jesus went through the towns and villages, teaching as he went, always pressing on toward Jerusalem. 23 Someone asked him, “Lord, will only a few be saved?”

    He replied, 24 “Work hard to enter the narrow door to God’s Kingdom, for many will try to enter but will fail. 25 When the master of the house has locked the door, it will be too late. You will stand outside knocking and pleading, ‘Lord, open the door for us!’ But he will reply, ‘I don’t know you or where you come from.’ 26 Then you will say, ‘But we ate and drank with you, and you taught in our streets.’ 27 And he will reply, ‘I tell you, I don’t know you or where you come from. Get away from me, all you who do evil.’

    28 “There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth, for you will see Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, and all the prophets in the Kingdom of God, but you will be thrown out. 29 And people will come from all over the world—from east and west, north and south—to take their places in the Kingdom of God.

  193. poohpity says:

    I have great mercy for the unsaved that is why it is so important to me to share the Good News and the teaching of Jesus. If I did not care nor being filled with mercy or grace, I would never tell anyone about the saving power of Jesus and His great love for them while they live. Matt 22:32; Psalm 115:17; Ecclesiastes 9:5-6

    How can one be born again if they are already dead? John 3:7

  194. jeff1 says:

    I am on my knees to day thanking God that it is the simple faith that pleases Him and not knowledge as I have been listening since I was a small child to those who claimed to know God through scripture.

    What was so confusing to me as a child was that they all believed they had got scripture right and so the more they learned the more unbearably conceited they became not just to how well they knew God but which of them knew Him better.

    I had a dad whom I know did not know the Bible very well but he went to it for encouragement and rebuke. He would not have gotten into debates because he would have been aware that he was no authority on it.

    He lived his life putting God first because all I ever heard was these words ‘If it pleases God’ and I was much too young to understand or care the implications of what that meant to him.

    Today it is his example and those of others like him that reaffirms my faith in God because even when the troubles were at their worst here and everyone was hating each other he was still putting God first in his life.

    It seems to me he inherited his faith, wisdom and mercy because I never heard him utter words that spoke of justice or revenge but rather how to obtain peace in a country that was perishing for the lack of it.

    Is example to me speaks of many who walk the walk of faith with little a do but with God in mind.

  195. SFDBWV says:

    Matt and I had a long day yesterday and didn’t get back from Morgantown until 7:15pm. We stopped off in Oakland on the way home and did some grocery shopping as well.

    Since he and I almost never travel at night I discovered that my cataract situation has deeply affected my driving at night.

    My first eye surgery is scheduled for December 7th and second January 4.

    Glenna doesn’t go with us as I need an anchor at home in the event I need to call for someone to come and rescue us if the car should break down or some other situation requiring a ride back home.

    Every time I go out on the road with Matt it is a somewhat stressful situation until we are safely back home, but I pray for God’s protection, provision and success each time we do and am always thankful when such trips are over.

    In this subject of “mercy” I see a vast difference between being thankful for all the good things God gives and being thankful for being left off the hook for sin, whether against God or man.

    Everyone I talked with yesterday agreed that the world is getting more and more evil. More callous, more violent, most impatient and certainly unforgiving.

    In the movie “Star Wars” there is a scene where the “Death Star” is within moments of destroying the planet where Princess Leia and her command crew are all standing around a hieroglyphic of events. As the computer voice says the Death Star will be within firing range within less than seconds Princess Leia stands nervously closer to an ally standing next to her.

    In the Marine Corps we would call it closing ranks or being shoulder to shoulder in preparation for the coming event.

    The world, this world, has been under a period of grace (mercy) since Jesus ask for forgiveness for all as He took all the sin in the world from beginning until the end upon Himself.

    In a showing of God’s mercy whereas Noah found Grace in the eyes of the Lord and was saved from the great flood, God’s chosen people also are given grace, because of Jesus, and are given refuge from the “Great Tribulation” to come by being safely rescued in the Ark of our salvation which is in Heaven.

    Tribulation is coming and just like when Jesus came into His ministry and said the Gospel was first to be preached to the house of Israel in the matter of allowing Israel to get its house in order, God is already getting His Church in order preparing it for that call to “come up hither”.

    Are we expecting mercy without giving it? If we don’t give it should we expect it?

    Morning thoughts from Bayard West Virginia. Matt, Glenna and I are all three getting haircuts today from a friend who is finally giving up the trade. She has cut Matt’s hair his entire life it will be a sad goodbye for all concerned.

    Joyce I am happy you had such a good experience with your daughter, praying for total healing there all around.


  196. SFDBWV says:

    Viv it is my great pleasure to know you. Your voice here is a welcome meal of encouragement to all. You do God and your dad proud.


  197. jeff1 says:

    Steve, my dad put God, country, community, family before himself and though I don’t know you personally I believe you do likewise.

    He was gentle by nature yet at 18 joined the Royal Navy in the 2nd World War and also joined the Palestine Police after that.

    I believe it was what he seen in his war days that made him a peace maker as though he didn’t speak of them my mum did and so I gathered they were harrowing days.

    It seems to me that it is those that as seen the worst of human nature that have a better understanding of the cost of failing to make peace and so desire it greater than those of us who have not.

  198. poohpity says:

    As I look around in the current climate in which we are living especially here in the USA many secular people get up in arms against those that disagree with them. Personal attacks, name calling rather than discussing something and each person presenting their side in a respectful manner. There is nothing wrong with people disagreeing it is not a personal attack to think differently.

    How on earth when people are in high school or college do they learn if they do not hear different sides of anything, they refer to those discussions as debates. No hostility, no anger just each side presenting their, dare I say argument without it being taken as in a negative way, argument.

    I do not know about you but when I share the gospel with others often times there are many questions about many things, some I know what God says in the bible and some I can not answer because I do not know but people still ask. Some people just want to know more than just milk(basics) of their faith, they want to dig deeper and know God more intimately and what He has to teach us. Oh my gosh to engage one’s mind in getting to know God instead of filling our minds with all the world offers one would think that is a good thing but I certainly am in the wrong place for that it seems.

    I guess it is better to stop reading the bible, going to church, going to bible studies, praying, singing and listening to worship songs, reading devotionals, or anything else I can learn from because I just do not want to learn anything more than my simple faith, if there is such a thing as simple faith. God gives us faith, then works on growing it until it produces some kind of fruit.

  199. poohpity says:

    Yes we are taught by the Lord Himself that those who show mercy will receive mercy. Matt 5:7; James 2:13 NLT

    Think for a minute did those who were destroyed by the flood show mercy or were they evil through and through? As those were in Sodom and Gomorrah but the 4 God lead out of there He would have destroyed if they had not known God and if one knows that story knows they showed mercy. Those left in those towns were sure not merciful to anyone, now were they, they were also bent on evil as well?

  200. poohpity says:

    However showing mercy is not how we are saved but it is proof that we are saved and embrace what was done for us.

  201. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Viv, again. When I was 17 years of age I broke my mother’s heart and joined the United States Marine Corps. That was May the 5th 1965. The day I got on the bus to leave for Parris Island South Carolina the last I seen of her face as the bus drove away was her crying.

    When next I seen her she my dad and my little brother Freddie came to my boot camp graduation ceremony. Instead of tears her face beamed with pride.

    It was her Christian influence that started me off on a life of believing in God and Jesus as the Son of God.

    It was her example of sacrifice and caring and yes struggling through many of the difficulties life gave her that shown me she was what a Christian is to be.

    My dad was more like your mother in that he was more suspect of the world and the things he taught me were about survival in life.

    However the combination of their genetic contribution and influences are who I am along with my own learning experiences in life.

    It is my belief that the life we live the action of our choices demonstrate the inner person we are. If we as Christians believe that the Holy Spirit has merged with our own then those actions, choices and how we conduct ourselves should show that. Show Christ in our character.

    Now you know me a little better.

    Thank you Viv for your friendship and fellowship. As I said before you do fine and I am sure please your dad and God alike.

    Have a blessed and wonderful day.


  202. jeff1 says:

    Yes, thank you, I do, and I understand the pain of you mother though I was glad to see my son join the Royal Engineers as he was in a bad place here and I knew it was best for him.

    My greatest struggle is in my head and not in my heart if it where for my heart then my way would be to trust God completely.

    Though it wasn’t recognised at the time my mum had serious mental problems and I have inherited her character more than my dads.

    What has been confusing for me is that although I have always listened and believed my dad more than my mum it is my mum’s beliefs that I see as coming true.

    It was she who would fill my head with ghost stories, banshee’s and the like not realising how it would burden my mind in later life and burden it more when a lot of what she told me would come true.

    Now in my later years I am finding a peace with God that I never had before and it would seem it is because what connected me to Him as a child is still what connects me to Him today and that is songs and poems.

    I have copied what your wrote because I can resonate so well with this and why I can see us as kindred spirits.

    It is my belief that the life we live the action of our choices demonstrate the inner person we are. If we as Christians believe that the Holy Spirit has merged with our own then those actions, choices and how we conduct ourselves should show that. Show Christ in our character.

    Thank you for helping me understand better my God, myself and others.

  203. poohpity says:

    Both my parents came from extreme poverty. My dad was put in an orphanage when he was 13 and my mom’s 5 sisters were placed in homes of relatives because my grandfather was not able to provide for the 8 of them. Both my parents started working very young. My dad ran away from the orphanage to join his dad who worked the Ferris wheel in a carnival and that is where my mom and dad met about 5 years later but during that time my dad learned a trade becoming a lineman. After my parents were married my dad joined the army to be a lineman and was part of putting up power lines across Germany, I was born while he was there.

    They both helped their families out which I learned charity from because they were both the oldest in their families and were looked to like parents of their siblings. My dad worked his way up the ladder and soon was running many jobs for different power companies until he became the President of one. He gave my mom’s family members jobs and help them establish careers in the field. We traveled all over the United States to follow where the work was.

    At nine when I started having problems with my legs, I learned compassion and empathy towards others who suffered physical problems and then later for those who had mental problems which became my chosen field of work. The one thing even though my parents believed they do not know as I did not know that we could have a personal relationship with the Lord but my mom found that out later in life. I never lived off of their faith, I discovered my own through the gift from the Lord then I accepted Him as my personal Savior.

    They were very good examples of giving, helping and compassion. My parents took many friends of my brother’s age that needed to learn a profession and help them get their start. I always felt that I could never measure up to my parents, I guess that may have been part of my using substances as an escape or just to blame them to stop from taking personal responsibility for my own actions. lol. My parents had beautiful hearts. I miss them so much.

  204. jeff1 says:

    I didn’t appreciate how difficult it is to be a parent until I became one myself and know what it is like to feel guilty when my children are struggling in life.

    There dad and them did not have a father and sons relationship and so they were affected and I overcompensated which did not have the desired outcome and so we had what is known today as a dysfunctional family.

    Now adults my younger son is till struggling to lead his life while my older son went to England and has made new life for himself but he visits me often with his girlfriend and has the wisdom of my father leaving me to believe that God finds a way when I think there is none.

    My parents too had beautiful hearts but my mum’s circumstances as an illegitimate child in 1920’s Ireland was not an easy one and we hurt the ones we love the most because of our closeness to them as it is impossible not to as far as I can see anyway.

  205. jeff1 says:

    In the bleak mid-winter
    Frosty wind made moan,
    Earth stood hard as iron,
    Water like a stone;
    Snow had fallen, snow on snow,
    Snow on snow,
    In the bleak mid-winter
    Long ago.

    Our God, Heaven cannot hold Him
    Nor earth sustain;
    Heaven and earth shall flee away
    When He comes to reign:
    In the bleak mid-winter
    A stable-place sufficed
    The Lord God Almighty,
    Jesus Christ.

    Enough for Him, whom cherubim
    Worship night and day,
    A breastful of milk
    And a mangerful of hay;
    Enough for Him, whom angels
    Fall down before,
    The ox and ass and camel
    Which adore.

    Angels and archangels
    May have gathered there,
    Cherubim and seraphim
    Thronged the air,
    But only His mother
    In her maiden bliss,
    Worshipped the Beloved
    With a kiss.

    What can I give Him,
    Poor as I am?
    If I were a shepherd
    I would bring a lamb,
    If I were a wise man
    I would do my part,
    Yet what I can I give Him,
    Give my heart.

  206. poohpity says:

    I had went to the Child Crisis pregnancy center to see what my options were and after having an abortion persuaded by my parents when I was 19 and ended up making the choice to go through the first pregnancy then I was going to a Doctor to be put on some medication for Bi-polar disorder and they did a blood test and found I was again pregnant. They were 18 months apart and we found ourselves homeless when one was 2 years old the other 6 months living out of my van. That is what lead me to a church as I sat in a pew pleading with God to help me because I had no idea how I was going to take care of them that was in July 1989 and by August we had a place to live and the road to recovery was happening. So being a single parent is all I know.

    That was the Christmas my mom bought me, my bible and since then I have not put it down. My boys are doing well except in one area the oldest graduated from College with a BA, working for the state, married and his wife is an BSN working in labor and delivery and the other does body and interior work on cars in CA. They were raised in the church although now they both seem to have walked away from God but I know from my own life that God will not let them go but continue to pursue them as He did me.

    My daughter on the other hand ten years older than the boys that was raised in a traumatic way going between my parents and me during that time in my life when I was on drugs and alcohol, now she is I really do not know where she is but last time she was living homeless with a group of people, not doing well at all. I so wish I could help but she is not ready to do anything any different than she is doing.

    I can not begin to say how hard it is to raise children and I messed up so much and often that is why I need God’s mercy often and so much. It takes effort for me to let go of the past and move forward. I so need the help of God, I do know where I would be without His hand in my life.

  207. Beloved says:

    God will make a way
    Where there seems to be no way
    He works in ways we cannot see
    He will make a way for me
    He will be my guide
    Hold me closely to His side
    With love and strength for each new day
    He will make a way, He will make a way

    By a roadway in the wilderness, He’ll lead me
    And rivers in the desert will I see
    Heaven and Earth will fade but His Word will still remain
    And He will do something new today

    Oh, God will make a way
    Where there seems to be no way
    He works in ways we cannot see
    He will make a way for me

  208. poohpity says:

    We all bleed the same
    We’re more beautiful when we come together
    We all bleed the same
    So tell me why, tell me why
    We’re divided

    Woke up today
    Another headline
    Another innocent life is taken
    In the name of hatred
    So hard to take (hey!)
    And if we think that it’s all good
    Then we’re mistaken
    ‘Cause my heart is breaking (tell it, ‘Dis)

    Are you left?
    Are you right?
    Pointing fingers, taking sides
    When are we gonna realize?

    We all bleed the same
    We’re more beautiful when we come together
    We all bleed the same
    So tell me why, tell me why
    We’re divided
    If we’re gonna fight
    Let’s fight for each other
    If we’re gonna shout
    Let love be the cry

    We all bleed the same
    So tell me why, tell me why
    We’re divided
    Tell me, who are we
    To judge someone
    By the kind of clothes they’re wearing

    Are you black? (black)
    Are you white? (white)
    Aren’t we all the same inside? (the same inside)
    Father, open our eyes to see!

    We all bleed the same (we all bleed the same)
    We’re more beautiful when we come together
    We all bleed the same (we all bleed the same)
    So tell me why, tell me why
    We’re divided

    If we’re gonna fight
    Let’s fight for each other (fight for each other!)
    If we’re gonna shout
    Let love be the cry (be the cry!)
    We all bleed the same (we all bleed the same)

    So tell me why, tell me why
    We’re divided
    Only love can drive out all the darkness
    What are we fighting for?

    We were made to carry one another
    We were made for more, said
    Only love can drive out all the darkness
    What are we fighting for? yeah
    We were made to carry one another
    We were made for more!

    We all bleed the same (we all bleed the same)
    We’re more beautiful when we come together (let’s stand united!)
    We all bleed the same (we all bleed the same)
    So tell me why, tell me why
    We’re divided

    If we’re gonna fight
    Let’s fight for each other (fight for each other!)
    If we’re gonna shout
    Let love be the cry (be the cry!)

    We all bleed the same(we all bleed the same) (bleed the same)
    Let’s stand united (let’s stand united)
    Let’s stand united!

    So Father God, I pray
    That our families will come together right now
    And seek Your face
    You will forgive our sins
    And You will heal our incredible land
    In the name of the only Savior, Jesus Christ

    Songwriters: Chris Stevens / Mandisa Hundley / Bryan Fowler / Toby McKeehan
    Bleed The Same (Intro) lyrics © Capitol Christian Music Group

  209. poohpity says:

    The passage of scripture from Our Daily Bread today was something I really needed to hear and goes with Mandisa’s song;

    Romans 12: Don’t just pretend to love others. Really love them. Hate what is wrong. Hold tightly to what is good. 10 Love each other with genuine affection, and take delight in honoring each other. 11 Never be lazy, but work hard and serve the Lord enthusiastically. 12 Rejoice in our confident hope. Be patient in trouble, and keep on praying. 13 When God’s people are in need, be ready to help them. Always be eager to practice hospitality.

    14 Bless those who persecute you. Don’t curse them; pray that God will bless them. 15 Be happy with those who are happy, and weep with those who weep. 16 Live in harmony with each other. Don’t be too proud to enjoy the company of ordinary people. And don’t think you know it all!

    17 Never pay back evil with more evil. Do things in such a way that everyone can see you are honorable. 18 Do all that you can to live in peace with everyone.

    19 Dear friends, never take revenge. Leave that to the righteous anger of God. For the Scriptures say,

    “I will take revenge;
    I will pay them back,”
    says the Lord.

    20 Instead,

    “If your enemies are hungry, feed them.
    If they are thirsty, give them something to drink.
    In doing this, you will heap
    burning coals of shame on their heads.”

    21 Don’t let evil conquer you, but conquer evil by doing good.

  210. Beloved says:

    In every situation, past present or even future speculations, look for the mercy. And give thanks to God.

  211. Beloved says:

    Oh what manner of love the Father has given to us, that we should be called the sons of God!

  212. jeff1 says:

    C. S. Lewis quotes:

    We have a strange illusion that mere time cancels sin. I have heard others, and I have heard myself, recounting cruelties and falsehoods committed in boyhood as if they were no concern of the present speaker’s, and even with laughter. But mere time does nothing either to the fact or to the guilt of a sin. The guilt is washed out not by time but by repentance and the blood of Christ: if we have repented these early sins we should remember the price of our forgiveness and be humble.

    Love is unselfishly choosing for another’s highest good.

    If human life is in fact ordered by a beneficent being whose knowledge of our real needs and of the way in which they can be satisfied infinitely exceeds our own, we must expect a priori that his operations will often appear to us far from beneficent and far from wise, and that it will be our highest prudence to give him our confidence in spite of this.

    Isn’t it funny how day by day nothing changes, but when you
    look back, everything is different.

    Life is too deep for words, so don’t try to describe it, just live it.

    Mental pain is less dramatic than physical pain, but it is more common and also more hard to bear. The frequent attempt to conceal mental pain increases the burden: it is easier to say “My tooth is aching” than to say “My heart is broken.

    When I lay these questions before God I get no answer. But a rather special sort of ‘No answer.’ It is not the locked door. It is more like a silent, certainly not uncompassionate, gaze. As though He shook His head not in refusal but waiving the question. Like, ‘Peace, child; you don’t understand.

    I pray because I can’t help myself. I pray because I’m helpless. It doesn’t change God – it changes me.

    God doesn’t want something from us. He simply wants us.

    I think that if God forgives us we must forgive ourselves. Otherwise, it is almost like setting up ourselves as a higher tribunal than Him.

    Atheists express their rage against God although in their view He does not exist.

    God allows us to experience the low points of life in order to teach us lessons that we could learn in no other way.

    Love as distinct from “being in love” is not merely a feeling. It is a deep unity, maintained by the will and deliberately strengthened by habit.

    To have Faith in Christ means, of course, trying to do all that He says. There would be no sense in saying you trusted a person if you would not take his advice.

    God loves us NOT because we’re lovable, because He is love. Not because He needs to receive, because He delights to give.

    The more we let God take us over, the more truly ourselves we become – because He made us. He invented us. He invented all the different people that you and I were intended to be. . .It is when I turn to Christ, when I give up myself to His personality, that I first begin to have a real personality of my own.

  213. poohpity says:

    That was just beautiful and brought tears to my eyes.

  214. jeff1 says:

    Yes, a man whose heart for God was evident in his gift with words.

  215. jeff1 says:

    Holy Highway
    There’s a road called the holy highway that once was a desert land.
    Very soon you’ll hear the sound of a holy marching band and.
    Everlasting joy upon them, there’s a remnant strong and true.
    We bring the song back to Zion; we bring the praise back to you.

    We exalt You, God Almighty, You are worthy to be praised.
    Let all nations bow before You, Holy Ancient of all days.

    There’s a road called the holy highway, where the people dance and shout.
    For the enemy is running with confusion all about.
    Raise our banners in the victory; raise them high His word is true.
    We bring our song back to Zion, we bring the praise back to you.

    Repeat Chorus:
    We exalt You, God Almighty, You are worthy to be praised.
    Let all nations bow before You, Holy Ancient of all days.

    Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty.
    Holy, holy holy is the Lord.
    Halelujah, halelujah, halelujah.
    We bring the song back to Zion
    We bring the praise back to You.

    There’s a road called the holy highway that once was a desert land.
    Very soon you’ll hear the sound of a holy marching band and.
    Everlasting joy upon them, there’s a remnant strong and true.
    We bring the song back to Zion; we bring the praise back to you.

    Repeat Chorus:
    We exalt You, God Almighty, You are worthy to be praised.
    Let all nations bow before You, Holy Ancient of all days.

    Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty.
    Holy, holy holy is the Lord.
    Halelujah, halelujah, halelujah.
    We bring the song back to Zion
    We bring the praise back to You.
    We bring the praise back to You.

  216. poohpity says:

    Surrendering to God, He gets rid of the garbage and that helps us to be more ourselves, the person He created us to be. Yes if we truly trust Him then what stops us from doing what He asks us to do, your will not mine? What stops me is just plain old rebellion for what reason? I would just say to be obstinate because I have experienced doing what He asked and my life was full, there was more joy, contentment, peace and will being.

    If He says forgive and I don’t then I live with all kinds of bitterness.

    If He says be merciful and I don’t then I get depressed demanding retaliation.

    If He says give your life to me and I don’t then I continue to want to be in control of not only me but others as well thinking I know better than God which can only lead to chaos and commotion.

    Life begins at it’s best when I surrender to God.

  217. poohpity says:

    All to Jesus I surrender
    All to Him I freely give
    I will ever love and trust Him
    In His presence daily live

    All to Jesus I surrender
    Humbly at His feet I bow
    Worldly pleasures all forsaken
    Take me, Jesus, take me now,

    I surrender all
    I surrender all
    All to Thee my blessed Savior
    I surrender all
    All to Jesus I surrender

    Make me Savior wholly thine
    May Thy Holy Spirit fill me
    May I know Thy power divine

    I surrender all
    I surrender all
    All to Thee my blessed Savior

    I surrender all
    I surrender all
    I surrender all
    All to Thee my blessed Savior

    I surrender all
    I surrender all
    All to Thee my blessed Savior
    I surrender all

  218. poohpity says:

    Have you ever asked Jesus to come and live in your heart?
    He does not just come into one’s life without being asked to because He does not force Himself on anyone.

  219. Beloved says:

    You will know the truth, and the truth will set you free!

  220. jeff1 says:

    The struggle is in the head as though my heart is open my mind fights against it.

    I never believed that what my mother told me was right because I knew she was unbalanced and so I listened to my dad who knew God in ways I never have and that to me was my dad’s strength while it was my weakness and partly that is due to that I am just as unbalanced as my mum was.

    My dad set his mind on God and instinctively he obeyed God and so his righteousness came from God.

    I cannot keep my head focused on God because the least thing distracts me and my head is all over the place. My mum filled my head with baloney about ghosts, banshee’s and all the superstitious beliefs of her time which have left its burden on my mind.

    My dad on the other hand told me not to listen to her because as a child she was rejected by the religious people of her time and even her own mother abused her both physically and mentally so her mind was unstable and volatile.

    History has repeated itself because I have the sickness of my mum and without medication I would not be able to function and even then I struggle with paranoia, guilt, mood swings and its my head controls me.

    To get relief from my head controlling me I listen to songs and poetry as it requires no effort of concentration on my part and calms my mind. That is my survival instinct that gets me through my day.

    I believe God loves me and that has to be enough for me.

    C.S. Lewis says God wants a child’s heart and a grown up’s head and I believe I am very much a child at heart but not with the grown up’s head because I have never got past living in the child’s world for fear of becoming a grown up.

  221. Beloved says:


    Free will comes out of our fallen nature which the enemy loves to use, but God in His great mercy has chosen us to be His sons and daughters!

    Ephesians 1:11NLT
    Furthermore, because we are united with Christ, we have received an inheritance from God, for he chose us in advance, and he makes everything work out according to his plan.

    He chose US!

  222. Beloved says:

    Viv I understand about having a head filled with evil thoughts, it’s only scripture that keeps me thinking as God thinks. And His presence that keeps evil at bay. I, also love the encouragement of Godly writers and poets! Oh the tender mercies of God!! But for them we would be consumed.

  223. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Beloved, the past comes back to haunt me no matter how I try not to let it. Its God who keeps me safe as my dad was an example of Godly behaviour and showed me that righteousness comes from God while confusion comes from the devil.

  224. Beloved says:

    Godly mentors are a wonderful gift! So glad you had him. Our journeys though different have the same God to guide us through. I have had a few mentors along my journey also and was so blessed at the time. But it’s the memories of Gods love mercy and faithfulness that sustains me now in my old age. He’s been sooo good!

  225. Beloved says:

    I just learned something about Spurgeon I did not know. That he had no higher education/degrees! He was such a prolific evangelist he had many followers which led him to open a seminary (I think or school) to train them. Oswald Chambers was one of his students.

    It seems that brilliance is born, not always taught like C S Lewis did through degrees but the mercies of God uses whomever He pleases to use to get His will done.

    I understand now how our friend Street uses his intellectual giftedness to preach Christ, without degrees! Oh the wonderful mind of God! I’m blown away. So blessed to learn more about God here. I’ve been so disappointed that I was not able to continue on to seminary but have just realized it’s ok, because it’s Gods will that’s important and not mine. Oh the jubilation we’ll experience when we all get to heaven! What wondrous love is this, that He loves me!

  226. Beloved says:

    I don’t mean to offend anybody here, or place anybody on a pedastol. We are who we are and I agree with Lewis that being who we are, without apology, is most glorifying to God. After all, He made us each with differing gifts and abilities to bring Glory to Himself, like the potter with clay he decides how to use each vessel. Who am I to tell Him He made a mistake.

  227. jeff1 says:

    Yes, when there is so much badness in the world it is a blessing to have those whose goodness shines through it all.

    Verse 1
    I’ve had many tears and sorrows,
    I’ve had questions for tomorrow,
    there’s been times I didn’t know right from wrong.
    But in every situation,
    God gave me blessed consulation,
    that my trials come to only make me strong.

    Through it all,
    through it all,
    I’ve learned to trust in Jesus,
    I’ve learned to trust in God.

    Through it all,
    through it all,
    I’ve learned to depend upon His Word.

    Verse 2
    I’ve been to lots of places,
    I’ve seen a lot of faces,
    there’s been times I felt so all alone.
    But in my lonely hours,
    yes, those precious lonely hours,
    Jesus lets me know that I was His own


    Verse 3
    I thank God for the mountains,
    and I thank Him for the valleys,
    I thank Him for the storms He brought me through.
    For if I’d never had a problem,
    I wouldn’t know God could solve them,
    I’d never know what faith in God could do

  228. street says:

    thinking about Salvation to come in the Lord’s return.
    anyway we are given righteousness, or credited to our account by faith in Christ. in Revelation saints under the alter are given robes of righteousness. we were told they were a little inpatient and distressed. hehe. if righteousness is a robe given in the new birth the inner transformation begins in earnest. not by flesh and blood but by the Spirit sent by Jesus. sitting standing walking in Christ Jesus. seek ask knock. is anything to hard for God? also thinking about the fact that they all fell asleep. don’t worry He will wake us up. remember payback for waking Him up in a boat in a storm. i am reminded we are to come to Him. He blessed them in an incredible way for coming to Him. only thing is they became more afraid! cs lewis , Jesus is not safe, but He is Good. to Him be Glory Honor Thanksgiving and Praise forever. Mercy

  229. Beloved says:

    I surrender all
    I surrender all
    All to thee my blessed Redeemer
    I surrender all.

  230. street says:

    John 14:15
    “If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.

    John 14:21
    He who has My commandments and keeps them is the one who loves Me; and he who loves Me will be loved by My Father, and I will love him and will disclose Myself to him.”

    John 14:23
    Jesus answered and said to him, “If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him.

    Acts 19:4
    Paul said, “John baptized with the baptism of repentance, telling the people to believe in Him who was coming after him, that is, in Jesus.”

  231. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Beloved, thanks for your concern,

    (Beloved says: November 29, 2018 at 11:32 am)

    Thank you very much!

    I have been very busy, workers at our house.

    Yesterday you said: “I don’t mean to offend anybody here, or place anybody on a pedastol. ”

    You talked favorably about Street, and then we could think: “and what about us?”

    Yesterday we had a sermon on Cain and Abel. God looked with favour on Abel and his offering, but on Cain an dhis offering He did not look with favour.

    The point the preacher wanted to make was this: Can we be happy for the other if they are praised, and not we ourselves? In dutch we have a word for it:


    I tried to find the translation, but there is no real word in english,

    Do we allow the other the award?

    Do we not begrudge the other?

    The preacher was talking about his church in his city, 12 years ago his church was getting smaller and smaller, and there was another evangelical church coming up, being succesfull, active, growing. And he was complaining to God: What about me, why are you not blessing our church?

    And he said he had to repent from that thought, he should be glad with the other person’s succes.

    Otherwise we have the spirit of Cain, being envious about another persons blessing.

    “And his face was downcast” Gen 4:5

    Our face downcast…

    If we lift up our face we see the other.

    Can we look the other in the face and see Jesus?

    That was the preachers question yesterday, and I thought it good to meditate upon that. Then Beloved came with her comment that she did not want to hurt anyone of us, by giving one person a compliment.

    Wow, Beloved, thanks!

  232. foreverblessed says:

    Mart is in fact saying:
    Lets sit around the table and…
    Talk about the mercy you have been shown.

    So today I will tell you of the mercy I have been shown:
    There had to be done some renovation work to our house. The chimney was really bad, new joints between the stones. But the whole wall, the rain side was quite bad. The joint had to be replaced. All of the wall. I had been praying about this, not to worry but to lay all our cares before God. The other thing I was trying to learn was: To seek first the Kingdom of God.
    What has the Kingdom of God have to do with renovation to a house?

    The house is something that will pass. It is only here for a few hundred years, and is gone. But I had to get in contact with workers who would repair the house. So I prayed to God: Who do You want for me to come in contact with? Then You will bless them through me, because, that is what You promised, when saying the we are priests. Then I will ask You to bless them,

    Numb 6:22-27, 1 Peter 2:9

    So I take that to be literal. And I start blessing the people I meet. For all who I meet is ordained by God. God is the One. So I am working in the work of God, caring for the souls of people around us. I got in contact with a company, and believed they were the ones to give the job. And started to pray for them. There came a thought to me:”What ever happens, keep on praying” The first day they would start the work, there was too much rain. Two days later they would come, but the compressor broke down, two days after that they would come, early in the morning, one of the labourers had an accident, he landed with his car in the ditch. Even when being in the belts, he had hit the right window, hit the glass, and broke two neck vertebra, (spinal column)

    So I got the message: keep praying!

    When I was younger I had asked God to tell me: what is that “seek forst the Kingdom of God”?

    It is not about the house, but about the souls of people who work at the house. I asked my church housegroup to pray with me. In the future, in heave, I will see the result of these prayers. And will delight about it. But the joy already comes now.

    “And all these things will be added to you”

    There was a lot of stone dust, after the sanding of the stones. They had first cleansed it, but the black dirt remained, so I asked for the sanding. But oh, boy, what a mess. All around the house, on the windows, the garden plants and trees. So I prayed about it, trying not to worry. (Because that is one of my struggles: Worry, anxiety)

    And lo and behold, God sent rain, lots of rain the whole weeked. Today I looked at the windows, the solar panels, the plants and most of the dust is gone. It feels as such a blessing.

    God cleanses us, He washes away our sins, and they are gone, washed into the ocean.

    So this I write, to tell you what mercy God has shown to me.

  233. SFDBWV says:

    Have any of you known people or even at times believed yourself to be on the other end of “mercy”?

    To believe in God, to believe in His power and love yet felt unloved by Him?

    Abandoned and left to suffer your “fate”?

    Have you ever felt sympathy for Cain, or for Saul or for even those who died when the path through the Red Sea was closed?

    Or those who died in the waters of the “Great Flood”?

    So easy to say we all have a choice, but many people seem to have no choice at all in the lives they are “given”. For them they feel abandoned and cursed. No amount of encouragement from well-meant people changes anything.

    If we are “convicted” for the souls of the lost or for the hurting people of this world then the least we can do is feel their pain, comfort them and pray for their rescue.

    The first thing we can do for any person is show them non-judgmental love, the last thing we ever need do is preach to them. A reminder that they have been “left out”, either by choice or design.

    The creative power of the tongue is to be used carefully.


  234. foreverblessed says:

    to compliment on what
    street says: December 3, 2018 at 12:13 am

    1 Peter 1 :21-22
    who through Him believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and gave Him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God. 22 Since you have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit in sincere love of the brethren, love one another fervently with a pure heart, 23 having been born again, not of corruptible seed but incorruptible, through the word of God which lives and abides forever, 24 because “All flesh is as grass,
    And all the glory of man as the flower of the grass.
    The grass withers,
    And its flower falls away,
    But the word of the Lord endures forever.”

    The living word of God- who is Christ.

    (Beloved, I was greatly conslotated by your comment of you and your daughter. May God keep blessing you adn your daughter.
    It also tells me, that when we have no contact with people we love, that there is still a hidden work in progress going on.)

  235. foreverblessed says:

    Oh, good morning Steve, only saw just now your comment, and yes, I fully agree with you. I keep praying for them as well.
    I have this notion that God will have mercy on all. However He does that I do not know, but He will. For not bypassing the repenting, and the accepting Jesus as Lord in their hearts, He will.
    (O dear, what a whirl of words: He will not bypass His own conditions: for all who believe)

    “For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that He may have mercy on all.”
    Romans 11:32
    I take that to be literal: mercy on all!

  236. jeff1 says:

    SFDBWV says:
    December 3, 2018 at 5:51 am

    Have any of you known people or even at times believed yourself to be on the other end of “mercy”?

    To believe in God, to believe in His power and love yet felt unloved by Him?

    Yes, Steve, I believe my mother was that person as I have no idea how she survived the life she lead.

    Being known back in her day as a bas….. child she suffered at the hands of ignorance of those around her and also at the hands of her mother who beat her constantly for failing to fulfil tasks i.e. walking miles over fields in her bare feet to bring home water and being chased by a bull which meant she came home with little water and so her mum beat her.

    For a while I believe she found happiness in England where she worked for a Jewish family and loved it but came home to look after her mother as young woman did then as her brothers or half brothers did not feel the need to.

    My grandmother was a difficult woman who caused my mum much distress by her behaviour but she somehow managed to be a wife and mother and carer to her mother.

    She sent my brother to live with my grandmother and he didn’t cope well and it may have contributed to his decline in mental health which became another burden for my mother and one which would damage her to the core.

    She was just 59 when she took cancer herself and died at the age of 61 and I don’t believe she felt loved by God though she never said as such but believed she was cursed because of her being a bas…. child.

    Certainly in her lifetime she met very few people who showed her mercy and I believe God seemed distant to her as even the churches back then kept their distance from someone of my mother’s disposition.

    I can very much see where you are coming from as anytime I have felt anger with God it is not for my own life as much as it is for my mum as I will never understand why she was ostracized as she was when it was the sins of her father and not hers but my mum seen a lack of mercy in her lifetime that still upsets me today.

    Thank you for your post Steve because even to this day there is a stigma to being illegitimate which makes a person feel they are less of a person than those who are born inside wedlock and I think it is to the shame of our society that it does.

    My Rector will baptise children outside wedlock and that is something that many churches here will not do, so though it may seem that society has changed, it seems that churches have not in abandoning those who are the most vulnerable in society through no fault of their own.

  237. poohpity says:

    It is the job of those who love the Lord to share how much the Lord loves everyone no matter what they have done or have not done. It seems the very proof of that love was shown because Jesus was sent here, as Jesus said, ““For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God. 19 And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil.

    Isaiah spoke of those that would reject Jesus, “He was despised and rejected— a man of sorrows, acquainted with deepest grief. We turned our backs on him and looked the other way. He was despised, and we did not care.

    Yet it was our weaknesses he carried; it was our sorrows that weighed him down. And we thought his troubles were a punishment from God, a punishment for his own sins!

    But he was pierced for our rebellion, crushed for our sins. He was beaten so we could be whole. He was whipped so we could be healed.

    All of us, like sheep, have strayed away. We have left God’s paths to follow our own. Yet the Lord laid on him the sins of us all.”

    Since I believe in God’s omniscience, all knowing, it seems He knew in advance those who would come to believe in Him and those who would reject Him. Getting to know God I know He does not force Himself on anyone. John shared, “He came into the very world he created, but the world didn’t recognize him. He came to his own people, and even they rejected him. But to all who believed him and accepted him, he gave the right to become children of God. They are reborn—not with a physical birth resulting from human passion or plan, but a birth that comes from God.”

    So God’s mercy was pouted out on the whole earth to people from the past, present and future. Whether people believe that or not it is a choice to want a new life or hold on the old one but it did not stop the covering of His mercy.

    To some I guess people see some of what God has done as merciless but if I give it any thought and consider how things may have been if He did not intercede. Paul asked God to intercede on his behalf to heal him but what would have Paul’s life looked like if God had done something different than what He did do? God was enough for Paul, in his weakness the strength of God was displayed. Paul leaned on God to get him through, maybe if he had been healed pride may have taken over rather than humility and less dependence on God. God seems to want us to depend on Him, learn from Him, get to know Him and follow Him.

    It would be nice to come to the point of not caring what others say about us but what God says because we are His. We are loved and wanted. Lord open our blind eyes to see you in every part of our lives so we know we are not left alone or abandoned just because you do not do what we want you to do but we trust that you will do what is in our best interest.

    I try to always remember that I live in a fallen world. Some things I bring on myself but there are those things that happen because we live in the world and stuff happens.

  238. Beloved says:

    Forever thank you for that marvelous story of Gods provision in the rain! Seek ye My face, thy face LORD will I seek, comes to mind. To have a house built to last hundreds of years is rare in the USA I think. I would love to live in one of those, but God has placed me here for His purposes, for which I am greatful. And I agree praying for those we meet day in and day out is our ministry. Love God, love others; what a great calling!

  239. jeff1 says:

    Why do you think the religious people of the day ostracised my mother because they believed she was born from evil and therefor deserved to be punished. My father knew God and he did not believe this of my mother so it is ignorance of God that people believe what they want to and show no mercy because of their beliefs and God does not come into it because if they knew God they would not have treated my mum the way they did.

    The churches today are still punishing children who are being born outside wedlock and there are ministers like ours who are baptising them because they believe it is the right thing to do irrespective of doctrine.

    It is individuals who are taking a stand because they see that it is wrong to punish the infant for the sins of the parents.

    Stuff happens because people are merciless and where does God fit into that!

  240. Beloved says:

    Pooh I agree, stuff happens! One of the most freeing things God taught me is that it isn’t always about me, meaning I am not to blame but it’s the other persons stuff that they are to work out with Gods help- mercy, kindness and loving support.

    Our great Lion of Judah is ever fighting for us and with us. Not a wimpy God at all, but oh so good.

  241. Beloved says:

    Prayer request please.

    The other day I developed an abscess and had to see a dentist. They were able to get me in right away because of a cancellation. The dentist said I needed 2 pulled but didn’t know if they could squeeze me in on an already overbooked day. Then she said, I am praying! A few minutes later she came back and removed them, citing urgency due to health risks. I am so grateful to God. But still feel miserable along with side effects from the antibiotic which are keeping me housebound. Even with reduced rates the session cost me 20% of my monthly income and need more removed so am praying God will show me the way through this. He’s the great provider! Thank you friends.

  242. SFDBWV says:

    Good day to you Viv, what a heart wrenching story of your mother’s life. It warms the coldest heart and steels the resolve against such ignorance and brutish behavior of people.

    Strange that in the Mosaic Law the innocent child is punished instead of the parents, perhaps yet another prelude to Christ being punished instead of the guilty. Deuteronomy 23:2 KJV.

    In the Concordance the Hebrew meaning of bastard is a child born of a Hebrew father and a heathen mother. The word has absolutely nothing to pertain to a child born out of wedlock.

    In fact as I have stated many times before, there is no instruction of a wedding ceremony given in the Law or anywhere in Scripture. That I have ever seen.

    However found in the Catholic Bible in the Book of Tobit is a beautiful wedding night prayer offered up to God before the couple (Tobiah and Sarah) go to bed on their wedding night.

    “Blessed are you, O God of our Fathers.
    Praised be your name forever and ever.
    Let the heavens and all your creation
    Praise you forever.
    You made Adam and you gave him
    His wife Eve
    To be his help and support;
    And from these two the human
    Race descended.
    You said, “It is not good for the
    Man to be alone;
    Let us make him a partner
    Like himself.”
    Now, Lord, you know that I take
    This wife of mine
    Not because of lust,
    But for a noble purpose.
    Call down your mercy on me and on her,
    And allow us to live together to a happy old age.”

    My Great grandmother was also born out of wedlock as was her sister. Phoebe was, somewhere in her life, shown in the Bible where a bastard was forbidden to enter into the congregation of the Lord by an ignorant person who misinterpreted what was stated at all and caused her a life time of confusion and of being defeated spiritually. Left out and not included in “Christianity”.

    It was her next door neighbor Cleo Blizzard and the Bayard Church of God that led her to accept the Lord.

    Great caution should be shown in tossing around the Word of God as if the person who does speaks for God when in fact they only know Scripture, not what is the heart and intent of it.

    Be blessed Viv in all you do and have a good day for what is left of it, mine is just underway.


  243. SFDBWV says:

    Prayers for you Joyce.


  244. Beloved says:

    Steve thanks for the info on what denotes a b* child. We know God had His reasons back then, to create a people of God, holy and pure as He is since Adam and Eve failed.

    I myself was a child of rape, conceived before marriage which my dad was proud to tell me about when I was about 11. That made me feel less than most in itself. Nobody had to tell me!

    Oh this world is so much in need of Christians who will share the great love mercy and kindness of God! Keep telling, you blessed children of God!!

  245. Beloved says:

    Thanks to all prayer warriors.

  246. jeff1 says:

    Thank you, Steve, for your understanding and the verses your gave me and there is nothing troubles me more than to see scripture in the hands of those who take it to mean what suits their beliefs and not for the understanding of the truth of the gospel.

    I believe the Bible in the wrong hands can do God a greater injustice than any self professed atheist can.

    Your wisdom and comments are so very encouraging to me and I thank you for them as I know God was present when my mum passed away as I seen her become so undisturbed and peaceful and there was a serenity in her face that I cannot explain but it contented me that God had my mum and that her tribulation in this world was over.

    Yes, I have found that too many put their knowledge before God as their authority as they are not concerned with the heart or intent of it but that they can use it for their own purpose of reiterating their beliefs.

    You are such a good Father and my son feels lost these days for the lack of one so I know just how much that means to Matthew. Be blessed today also. Viv

  247. jeff1 says:

    Good Good Father

    I’ve heard a thousand stories of what they think you’re like
    But I’ve heard the tender whispers of love in the dead of night
    And you tell me that you’re pleased
    And that I’m never alone

    You’re a good good father
    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am

    I’ve seen many searching for answers far and wide
    But I know we’re all searching
    For answers only you provide
    ‘Cause you know just what we need
    Before we say a word

    You’re a good good father
    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am

    Because you are perfect in all of your ways
    You are perfect in all of your ways
    You are perfect in all of your ways to us

    You are perfect in all of your ways
    You are perfect in all of your ways
    You are perfect in all of your ways to us

    Oh, it’s love so undeniable
    I, I can hardly speak
    Peace so unexplainable
    I, I can hardly think
    As you call me deeper still
    As you call me deeper still
    As you call me deeper still
    Into love, love, love

    You’re a good good father
    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am

    You’re a good good father
    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am
    You’re a good good father

    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I am
    You’re a good good father

    You are perfect in all of your ways
    It’s who you are, it’s who you are, it’s who you are
    And I’m loved by you
    You are perfect in all of your ways
    It’s who I am, it’s who I am, it’s who I a

  248. Beloved says:

    His abundant mercy

    A Heavenly Inheritance
    Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His abundant mercy has begotten us again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, to an inheritance incorruptible and undefiled and that does not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, who are kept by the power of God through faith for salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.
    6In this you greatly rejoice, though now for a little while, if need be, you have been grieved by various trials, that the genuineness of your faith, being much more precious than gold that perishes, though it is tested by fire, may be found to praise, honor, and glory at the revelation of Jesus Christ, whom having not seen you love. Though now you do not see Him, yet believing, you rejoice with joy inexpressible and full of glory, receiving the end of your faith—the salvation of your souls.

  249. poohpity says:

    When the bullies brought the woman caught in the act of adultery before the crowd, the crowd was so focused on the the behavior of that particular person and expected if Jesus was who He said He was to enact a punishment of sorts but rather He turned the focus back to the accusers themselves. In His mercy He said let the one without sin cast the first stone and starting with the oldest first they dropped their stones and walked away.

    Similar to the dinner at the house of the Pharisee, Simon. Simon said if He was really who He said He was then He would know what kind of person it was kissing His feet, washing them with her tears and drying them with her hair. The very one who Jesus had shown mercy to her focus was on Jesus not the others sitting at the table. Jesus said, “those who have been forgiven much will love much.”.

    Mart, said, “In a world of bullies, it shows us how grateful we can be for friends like our God— whose mercy endures forever.” The bullies seem bent on pointing out the brokenness in others but do not seem to focus on how grand the mercies are of God for each sinner like they themselves are. In scripture I only remember those who thought of themselves in high regard that did not even recognize who Jesus was nor did they really understand what He wanted them to understand, “Now go and learn the meaning of this Scripture: ‘I want you to show mercy, not offer sacrifices.’ For I have come to call not those who think they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners.” Matt 9:12-13 NLT

  250. poohpity says:

    I can not fully comprehend the fullness of mercies God has really shown us because I can not see into the hearts of people like He can but I do know the mercy He has shown me. I know the thoughts I have had that may have been just thoughts but also the actions I have taken when I did not care about how they would effect others or God or even myself in the long run. If God, who knows all things, can show someone like me forgiveness and grace by His mercy then far be it from me not to do likewise, in gratitude.

  251. poohpity says:

    I can just imagine how it melted the heart of Peter after He had denied even knowing Jesus that Jesus made it a point to talk to Peter first after the resurrection to restore their relationship. Not that Jesus had turned from Peter but that Jesus seemed to be concerned Peter would turn from Jesus because of guilt and shame.

  252. SFDBWV says:

    I had some difficulty for a while getting BTA to come up on my computer this morning so I am a little late saying anything.

    Here in the USA we both mourn the death of past President George H Bush and also celebrate his life.

    Here was a man most of us can easily see was a man of sacrifice and service to his country. As well as one who projected character and grace.

    We can all take a cue from his quick departure from campaigning against someone to becoming a friend afterwards.

    I recall watching the “Desert Storm” war on TV and his remarking about the kindness of American soldiers when Iraqi soldiers surrendered to them.

    They were terrified and expected the kind of treatment they had been raised to expect under the Dictator Saddam Husain. Yet what they encountered was “mercy”.

    A strange way for an enemy to treat a defeated foe.

    However a very American one.

    I remember Mart recommending the story of Louis Zamperini, his capture by the Japanese, mistreatment as a prisoner of war, conversion to Christ and ultimate forgiveness of his captors.

    The mercy he shown them was never afforded him.

    As a Christian nation Americans seemed to have always mercy in their actions toward everyone, but then we had a President more recently who said we were no longer a Christian nation. As I see the news and troubles that arise almost daily I can agree that mercy is no longer in the mind of the average citizen, perhaps revenge as well as its darker cousin “hate” more prevalent.

    Well as we say good bye to one past President we are subjected to a new one. Whose legacy is being written daily by his actions as a man and as a leader.

    Praying for our Nation, our leadership and mostly God’s will in all things.


  253. jeff1 says:

    “Everyone thinks that forgiveness is a lovely idea until he has something to forgive.”

    Isn’t that just the truth of it as how often has others told me I should forgive as it is my Christian duty to do so and yet I have seen how unforgiving they can be when the offence is against themselves.

    It is in God’s realm to forgive as only He sees the hearts of people.

    As a believer in Jesus I should desire to forgive those who have offended me but in my experience it doesn’t happen overnight and it took me a long time to get there with a teacher who abused me at school.

    Then there is my enemies who are still plotting against me that I may or may not be aware of, so it is very much in God’s hands, and once I feel secure in Him then I shall no longer feel threatened by those who mean me harm because I know that God will turn it around for good.

    When I am in the right relationship with God I do not fear the world or my adversaries as I know I am secure in Him as that is His will for me to make me right with Himself.

  254. jeff1 says:

    Steve, not one for listening to the news other than what I pick up from others so sorry to hear about President Bush.

    We live in a world of darkness and light and if I have learned anything I know it is all too easy to get side tracked as that is very much what Satan does best and why faith in God is what it takes to defeat his wyly ways.

    I too had difficulty getting on to the site this morning.

    Guide me o thou great redeemer
    Pilgrim through this barren land
    I am weak but thou art mighty
    Hold me with thy powerful hand
    Bread of heaven
    Feed me now and evermore

    Open now the crystal fountain
    Whence the healing streams do flow
    Let the fiery cloudy pillar
    Lead me all my journey though,
    Strong Deliverer
    Be Thou still my strength and shield.

    When I tread the verge of Jordan
    Bid my anxious fears subside
    Death of death,
    And hell’s destruction,
    Land me safe on Canaan’s side,
    Songs of praises
    I will ever give to thee.

  255. street says:

    18 Dear children, let us not love with words or speech but with actions and in truth.

    the world waits.

    James 1:25
    But if you look carefully into the perfect law that sets you free, and if you do what it says and don’t forget what you heard, then God will bless you for doing it.

    thinking about confrontation and testing.

    9 Aaron replied to Moses, “Look. They sacrificed their Absolution-Offering and Whole-Burnt-Offering before God today, and you see what has happened to me—I’ve lost two sons. Do you think God would have been pleased if I had gone ahead and eaten the Absolution-Offering today?”

    20 When Moses heard this response, he accepted it.

    5 Then the woman came back to Jesus, went to her knees, and begged. “Master, help me.”

    26 He said, “It’s not right to take bread out of children’s mouths and throw it to dogs.”

    27 She was quick: “You’re right, Master, but beggar dogs do get scraps from the master’s table.”

  256. poohpity says:

    Viv, you said, “Isn’t that just the truth of it as how often has others told me I should forgive as it is my Christian duty to do so and yet I have seen how unforgiving they can be when the offence is against themselves.” It is not that important what others say or do and forgiveness goes way beyond duty, it is proof that one believes and is grateful for what Jesus has done for them. It is not about others but about a relationship with Christ. Jesus said, “For if you forgive men their trespasses, your Heavenly Father will also forgive you.” or “Should you not have had mercy on your fellow servant, just as I had on you?” So in essence it is doing what Jesus did for us; Col 3:13, Eph 4:32. If one is so grateful for what Jesus did and they are surrendered to following His ways, show mercy and forgive just as he did for everyone of us not out of duty but out of gratitude and gratefulness.

    If anyone ever wants to know the reason for that just look and listen to people who have not forgiven someone and are holding grudges which turns to bitterness and a cold heart. God wants what is best for us to live a life filled with joy which is impossible to do when a person does not forgive or show mercy.

    I would never presume to tell you Viv, how to live your life or whether or not you forgive someone but it is not about what others say after all but what Jesus says. Yes forgiveness is a process and it does take time but careful reflection on what Jesus has forgiven each of us for is a great way to begin the process.

  257. street says:

    the word common came across my path.

    common mercy

    common grace


    thinking about the 10 leprous and 10 virgins.

    6 When Jesus saw him lying there and learned that he had been in this condition for a long time, he asked him, “Do you want to get well?”

    7 “Sir,” the invalid replied, “I have no one to help me into the pool when the water is stirred. While I am trying to get in, someone else goes down ahead of me.”

    8 Then Jesus said to him, “Get up! Pick up your mat and walk.”

  258. jeff1 says:

    I do not stop being grateful to Jesus but that does not mean I can forgive those who have perpetrated violence against me and blinded themselves to the consequences of it.

    I am talking about violence and evil that is way beyond my understanding that is in God’s realm to forgive as though I have suffered at he hands of its perpetrators I trust God with their hearts as I have no way of knowing whether they have genuinely changed or are simply manipulating people for their own ends.

    If you have lived with people who will do or say anything to get their way showing no mercy to others then you will not trust them when they say otherwise as their word is not their bond.

    I have moved on from those harrowing times and do not give them much thought now, as I am putting them in God’s hands rather than hating or looking for revenge but knowing that God will do what He has to in bringing them to justice or showing them mercy as He sees fit.

    I have my own demons that lurk in my mind and I entrust them to God as the consequences of 30 years of terrorism has taken its toil on my mind and I am aiming to forget the past because I have seen from my country how unhealthy it is as it encourages unforgiveness as each side points to the wrongs of history to continue hating each other.

    Today I do not get tangled up in the politics of my country as I see all to well where it leads and God is the last person on peoples minds.

    I live my life now with God in mind but I do not blind myself to the fact that others don’t as in the modern world they are very inclined to tell you to keep your faith to yourself and everyone thinks their way is best.

    God is a much better judge of human nature than I am and that’s what gives me peace of mind in a messed up world like this one.

  259. poohpity says:

    There is so much good in this world, all around us everyday. We just have to look for it rather than looking for the bad stuff. It is the same for much of our choices about everything else.

    No one can take away from us what God gave us, faith.

  260. jeff1 says:

    God does not tell us to blind ourselves to the bad as it is part of the world we live in but to know that He has overcome it.

    It is that which I focus on when clouds and storms gather so that I am reminded that the things of this world are temporary while God’s ways are eternal and goodness and mercy comes form His alone.

  261. jeff1 says:

    Should say Him alone.

  262. jeff1 says:

    from Him alone.

  263. jeff1 says:

    I feel I have received more mercy from God than I have from others and that is because I have needed to receive.

    It was I who went astray and in the midst of evil I blinded myself to God’s truth as though I did not partake I followed those who encouraged it.

    It was my dad who warned of the folly because he never took his sight or mind of God.

    Today his words have come true as those of us can now see who was right and who was wrong and I can assure you it is my dads words that are coming true.

    Hindsight is all very well after the event but it is in the midst of evil that God finds His Saints.

  264. poohpity says:

    Viv, you said, “God does not tell us to blind ourselves to the bad as it is part of the world we live in but to know that He has overcome it.” That is sort of true at least the part about overcoming but we are taught;

    Phil 4: “Don’t worry about anything; instead, pray about everything. Tell God what you need, and thank him for all he has done. 7Then you will experience God’s peace, which exceeds anything we can understand. His peace will guard your hearts and minds as you live in Christ Jesus.

    8And now, dear brothers and sisters, one final thing. Fix your thoughts on what is true, and honorable, and right, and pure, and lovely, and admirable. Think about things that are excellent and worthy of praise. 9Keep putting into practice all you learned and received from me—everything you heard from me and saw me doing. Then the God of peace will be with you.”

    If we look at the bad stuff all the time it can lead us to being grinch like, pessimistic, depressed, worrisome, etc.. We miss the beauty that is in the world and the good people do, losing the peace and comfort that God brings by trusting Him.

  265. poohpity says:

    So God pretty much does tell us to blind ourselves to the bad in the world because it just harms our thinking which effects our hearts rather look to Him, the good we see in others and in the beauty of the world around us. Only the media and the devil want us to see only the bad to question the goodness and love of God. If one think about it, it seems pretty logical doesn’t it? If we fill our minds with garbage that is what will possess our thoughts rather than allowing God to transforming our thinking. Romans 12:2 NLT

  266. Beloved says:

    But I think we’d end up agreeing that, like much of the rest of the Bible, this song doesn’t describe the way the world should be. In a world of bullies, it shows us how grateful we can be for friends like our God— whose mercy endures forever.

    doesn’t describe the way the world SHOULD be… How often I get caught up in what’s wrong, rather than focusing on being thankful for Gods mercies, new every day! There are mercies enough in every situation, big and small, I can choose to focus on, by Gods grace. The more I focus on Gods tender mercies the closer I feel to God, who is ever present. I’ve learned even in my moments of terror or despair to be thankful for Gods loving presence. I can’t begin to describe how good mercy feels. Taste and see that the LORD is good, blessed is the man who trusts in Him.

  267. bubbles says:

    I’ve been listening to BBC World News in the morning getting ready for work. I’ve had to turn it off twice recently due to the distressing news that is being shared from another country and the cruelty that occurs there to people of other countries and their treatment of innocent animals and children. It has upset me very much. Once cannot unheard what has been heard. Then I think how our sin hurts God; I wonder if He thinks of our sin, “HOW could you do such a thing?!?” How much more the Father’s heart is grieved. I have had to ask for forgiveness a lot lately. I’m humbly thankful for God’s mercy because I should be struck dead for my sin.

  268. street says:

    poo sometimes i think you are straining at the nat and swallow a camel. first off pelagius believed man was good. man is not good . Jesus said only God is good. granted you may see good in others but it comes from God who is to be thanked and praised! if man was good why did Jesus go to the cross and ask us to take up our cross? as for confronting evil. we are told to seek justice. sometimes stoning? God gave that sword to the state. we are to hold the state accountable. thinking of the trial of Jesus. then we are told to love mercy. this mercy includes the transgressor and the victim. we always hear keep your religion out of politics. most of the time we hear about rights of the accused and rightly so. too many have been thrown under the bus falsely. as for the victim. we see another short coming. silence and suffering alone. job was a little upset about the suffering of the innocent. the righteous do get uncomfortable in this. job did withdraw his complaint. God says to forgive, I will repay. But do confront your brother if he sins against you. just remember he is your brother. humbly walking before God….seems to be on the other side of the horizon from here. love finds a way.

  269. street says:

    the media only sells what people are buying or looking for. its hard to turn away from a train wreck. from my experience we are to run from them.

  270. Beloved says:

    Oh I know how you feel bubbles, it’s so upsetting. So thankful Jesus was struck dead for my sin! I am totally helpless without the cross.

  271. Beloved says:

    As far as media goes I check in to see what’s going on in the world maybe a couple times a week then shake my head thanking God for His kingdom and the peaceful presence.

  272. Beloved says:

    Mercy for transgressor and victim.

    I was thinking of that as I was reading Psalm 31-35 this morning. Gods justice is amazing and full of love. Righteousness is beyond words.

  273. jeff1 says:

    Are we saying there is no need for repentance from the transgressor?

  274. Beloved says:

    We all need to repent. To one another and to God.

  275. Beloved says:

    Mercy forgives the enemy. Isn’t that amazing!

  276. Beloved says:

    jeff1 says:
    November 22, 2018 at 9:21 am
    There’s a wideness in God’s mercy,
    Like the wideness of the sea.
    There’s a kindness in God’s justice,
    Which is more than liberty.

    Love this!

  277. Beloved says:

    I think Viv that even if the the transgressor does not repent to us, we never know if perhaps at the hour of their death they are granted repentance from God. Wouldn’t that be lovely!!

  278. street says:

    Mercy forgives the enemy. Isn’t that amazing!

    the mercy of God, because of what the Son has done!

  279. Beloved says:

    Christ, alone!

  280. jeff1 says:

    We live in a world where transgressors justify their deeds and so do not feel the need to repent as if you believe you are righteous then you are not seeing the need.

    People are more concerned with being right themselves than considering God is right.

    The Bible is correct that all would go their own way and bring suffering that God never intended.

    Trusting God and not on our own understanding is what God requires from His faithful servants as His righteousness and mercy transcends this world and what God wants us to know whatever our circumstances.

    Trust and obey for there is no other way to be happy in Jesus but to trust and obey. God won’t force me but it is in keeping with His will that I do.

  281. Beloved says:

    Many believe there is no God at all, so does that mean they will not face God when they die? According to what the bible says with testimony of saints through the ages and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit we believe and do according to our submitted will. Many that believe in God refuse Gods righteous love and mercy. WHAT TO DO? Preach, pray and serve. The fields are ripe for harvest Jesus said while here in flesh. Love God, love your enemies. Pray for your enemies, if one asks for your coat, give him 2. If he asks you to walk a mile, go the extra mile. Love others as God loves us! Mind boggling this merciful grace.

  282. street says:


  283. Beloved says:

    Love your neighbor, also.

  284. poohpity says:

    First off street from your comment @1:23 pm shows just how confused you can get and a complete lack of what we are taught in the bible as in Phil 4:6-9 about fixing our thoughts on good things. You comment on what you think I say rather than what I actually say. If I remember right just last year you had stated you started reading the bible and you started in Job so much more to learn hope you keep up the good work and continue learning and reading what is said, not what is not said while adding your own understanding along in there many places. That can confuse anyone. Then in your comment @1:26 a train wreck is what I think about your comments more often than not.

    Jesus said from the Cross, “Father forgive them for they know not what they doing”. They did not admit to their transgressions. Jesus died for the all sins of all people while they still were in sin, they were shown mercy and grace all they have to do is accept what Jesus did for them. Romans 5:8,10

  285. poohpity says:

    There are places in the word that people are to forgive when someone admits their transgressions and there are place that says to forgive regardless of whether people admit to their transgression but the whole jest of it is to forgive like we were forgiven and we were forgiven before we even admitted we needed it.

  286. Beloved says:

    Wow, deep breath street.

  287. jeff1 says:

    Faith, hope and love and the greatest is love, His love for us which surpasses understanding which is why our faith is precious to Him as He brings His Sons to Glory in Christ Jesus.

    All the work of God and perhaps why this world does not understand as it is not seeking to. Seek and ye shall find, ask and it will be given; knock and the door will be opened to you.

    “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways”.

  288. Beloved says:

    Its palpable, isn’t it? Bless God for His unchangeable mercy. The Day is coming.

  289. poohpity says:

    During the celebration of Pres Bush 41 when talking how he hated no one and then there was this quote, “Hate corrodes the container it is carried in.” Speaking of the heart. I thought that was very thought provoking.

  290. Beloved says:

    Mercy I find far more thought provoking!

  291. jeff1 says:

    1 Tell me the old, old story,
    Of unseen things above,
    Of Jesus and His glory,
    Of Jesus and His love;
    Tell me the story simply,
    As to a little child,
    For I am weak and weary,
    And helpless and defiled.
    Tell me the old, old story,
    Tell me the old, old story,
    Tell me the old, old story,
    Of Jesus and His love.

    2 Tell me the story slowly,
    That I may take it in—
    That wonderful redemption,
    God’s remedy for sin;
    Tell me the story often,
    For I forget so soon,
    The “early dew” of morning
    Has passed away at noon.

    3 Tell me the story softly,
    With earnest tones and grave;
    Remember I’m the sinner
    Whom Jesus came to save;
    Tell me the story always,
    If you would really be,
    In any time of trouble,
    A comforter to me.

    4 Tell me the same old story,
    When you have cause to fear
    That this world’s empty glory
    Is costing me too dear;
    And when the Lord’s bright glory
    Is dawning on my soul,
    Tell me the old, old story:
    “Christ Jesus makes thee whole.”

  292. Beloved says:

    Thinking how God was even merciful to those who were “straining a gnat while swallowing a camel”. He proved them wrong by going to the cross for them, yet we Christians can easily do the same using scripture just as the Pharisees did. Too much argument often results in this, then we know the “conversation” has ended and the straining has begun.

  293. street says:

    straining or praying?

    makes me wonder about fervent prayer and the way of peace.

  294. Beloved says:

    Good direction street.

  295. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    November 30, 2018 at 7:52 am

    I just do not want to learn anything more than my simple faith, if there is such a thing as simple faith. God gives us faith, then works on growing it until it produces some kind of fruit.

    What unites believers all over the world it is not their unitedness on God because I have witnessed my dad

  296. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    November 30, 2018 at 7:52 am

    Extract from post:

    I just do not want to learn anything more than my simple faith, if there is such a thing as simple faith. God gives us faith, then works on growing it until it produces some kind of fruit.

    What may seem ludicrous to one person is how another leads their life as I have known many whose simple faith has brought them through their days with nothing more in mind than God knows best.

    I have seen people who lost their loved one in violence 30-40 years ago who are still today looking for justice and in doing so have known little peace because the Good Friday agreement give pardons to perpetrators and so their identity has been changed or died with them.

    I know people who in the same circumstances seek no other justice than to say ‘God knows best’ which speaks of a simple faith to me and I see these people and envy the peace of mind they have in knowing their God knows best.

    Is trusting God better than knowledge, I believe so, because I cannot understand why others do as they do as I have difficulty understanding myself and even those closest to me most of the time.

    God knows me better than I know myself, takes me as I am, loves me enough to forgive my weaknesses, gives me peace of mind over my enemies and promises me I shall be with Him for eternity and I think I am the faithful one.

  297. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Jeff, do you want to finish your above comment?

    We seek unity with Jesus

    Beloved, indeed: deep breath!

    This is what Mart’s advice is, when being bullied:

    1-Pray to God: Forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.

    2- remember that you have a Friend, Jesus, share everything with Him.
    The seeking of unity with Jesus!

    It is not the bad things that change us, it is the close communian with Jesus, to which these circumstances drives us, that change us.

    Everything that we share with Him, more and more, that is what counts.

    That we may mirror more and more the beauty of Christ.

    He is full of mercy, and indeed, He helps the victims, and the bullies.

    Both of them.

    But I also agree, Street, that we may confront a brother or sister in Christ.

    It is so true, Jesus was saying harsh things about the Pharasees, and yet, He full well knew that He also was bearing their sins on the Cross. So He dearly loved them, while He confronted them. Jesus had a vision, of these hardliners, their eyes opened to see the Light: The Light of the World, is Jesus.

    And one of those hardliners was there, later to be apostle Paul.

    When Martin Luther defended his case of Grace in court, his words were sowing seeds of truth in those who heard him. That is made visible in the last movie about Luther. The effect of his words on his adveraries.

    The movie about Luther from 2003, is free to watch on internet, if you do a search you will find a website where you can view it. I saw it last week, together with my husband. It really touched my heart.

    As he calmly sat in court, and boldly talked about the Grace of God, and confronted the indulgence practice. Many clerics knew in their hearts that he was right, but they needed the money to build all these cathedrals., The Saint Peter in Rome.

    But the point was: Luther was not intimidated by the adversitaries, just kep repeating his explanation about the Gospel of Grace.

  298. jeff1 says:

    Please discard first post.

  299. foreverblessed says:

    So here I go:
    Last topic, I gave the explanation that I found in the bible commentaries of Matthew 11:12.
    Because the theme in this blog, is often about that we kill the old man. And live in the New Man, who is in Christ.

    I went back to the bible commentaries, and found that ALL of them say that this bible verse is about the positive force being used by sinners, taxcollectors, prostitutes, since John the Baptist, who started just a few years before Jesus said these words in Matt 11:12.

    ALL of them say the same thing, there is one commentary who also says: there has been opposition to the Gospel, negative opposition.
    Last topic I have been explaining these things, and solely acted on the answer, not on the character of the person opposing it. I said: Go, and study this verse, and then discuss it.
    Just do not tell me I am twisting words in the bible to suit my own intellect.

    Then I also went to the CCEL website, where you can find the old church fathers writings. At this moment there is a bible study on Matthew, with all the old church fathers comments.
    Even there the explanation is the same as the bible commentaries of Biblehub:
    The positive force used to grab hold of the Gospel.

    the Grace is given freely
    But the force is used to kill the old man,

    As Jesus was explaining:
    There is place for only One King in our heart:
    Jesus Himself,
    and not our old man, which is corrupted.

    Sorry Jeff, about the violance, in your country!
    As I have written here before, there was the same civil war in our country 500 years ago, when we were fighting the Spaniards. Half of the population wanted to remain cathlic, and did not want to fight the enemy, they mainly lived in the south. It is taking the time up until now, to heal the differences.
    Last April I went to a Belgian cathlic church for a commemoration about the end of that was 400 years ago, and the bisshop said:
    God cannot be divided in Churches
    People have split him in two 500 years ago: The cathlics and the protestants,
    But God is One.

    I found that such statement of atonement: At One ment

    And that after 400 years.
    So take a deep breath!
    God is still working, deep down in everybodies hearts. Waiting for the moment to let His Light shine through.

  300. jeff1 says:

    What unites believers all over the world it is not their unitedness on God because I have witnessed my dad

    I am afraid I lost my line of thought which happens me often but what I am trying to say is that it is God who told us to keep our focus on ‘Jesus’ and He did that for a very good reason and when I see how divided believers are on God today then I realise why God insists on us following Jesus’s ways.

    God knows human nature as He excepts us in our weaknesses, but He knows we don’t except each other’s weaknesses, because that is our weakness, which He turns around for His purpose and our Salvation.

    God is omniscient, we are not because God never intended it so and that is for our own good because humility is rare in human nature and who knows that better than God.

  301. poohpity says:

    Viv, it was not an exact post because you only copied part of the sentence and left the whole first part out. A sentence is a whole and can be misunderstood if taken apart and not left in the context. This is what the whole thing said although some what sarcastic; “I guess it is better to stop reading the bible, going to church, going to bible studies, praying, singing and listening to worship songs, reading devotionals, or anything else I can learn from because ‘I just do not want to learn anything more than my simple faith, if there is such a thing as simple faith.’ God gives us faith, then works on growing it until it produces some kind of fruit.

  302. poohpity says:

    Beloved, if you find mercy more thought provoking than knowing what hate does to one’s heart, they why do you not show more mercy rather than hate? Whatever provokes thought should eventually turn into taking some actions on those thoughts. If we only think about mercy what good is it really? It is not any good until one puts it into action or practice other wise it is just a word tossed around meaninglessly. A lot of talking but no proof of it in one’s life.

    Yes you are also right about me being the bully among the 7 of you. 1 against 7 those are the kind of odds any bully finds interesting, lol.

  303. poohpity says:

    Viv, I also do not know about you but I do not trust anyone that I do not know and that also includes God. I trust God not because I know about Him but because I have developed a close relationship with Him and have learned to trust that His ways are better than anything I can come up with or any other human being can. Some people trust other people more than they trust God just because they do not know Him, God. Trust is earned! God gave us faith then put that faith to the test so that it can grow and produce fruit. Faith that is not tested is not faith at all. Read Hebrews 11.

    If we had faith then we would show mercy and forgive having faith that God knows what is in our best interest. But many do not have enough faith even to do that.

  304. foreverblessed says:

    Martin Luther had been tought by the Monks of the Modern Devotion, (Geert Grote, Thomas a Kempis)

    From the book “Imitation of Christ”
    part 3
    ” “My son, to the degree that you can leave yourself behind, to that degree will you be able to enter into Me. Just as desiring nothing outside you produces internal peace within you, so the internal renunciation of yourself unites you to God.” Jesus gives his important teaching, “Follow Me…I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. Without the Way, there is no going; without the Truth, there is no knowing; without Life, there is no living. I am the Way you are to follow; I am the Truth you are to believe; I am the Life you are to hope for.(chapter 56)””
    from part 3 of the book from Wikipedia

    And another interesting phrase:

    Kempis writes one must remain faithful and fervent to God, and keep good hope of attaining victory and salvation, but avoid overconfidence.
    Kempis gives the example of an anxious man who, oscillating between fear and hope and with grief went to the altar and said:
    “Oh, if only I knew that I shall persevere to the end.” Immediately he heard the divine answer:

    “What if you knew this? What would you do? Do now what you would do then, and you will be very safe.”

    After this the man gave himself to God’s will, and his anxiety and fear of future disappeared.(Chap 25) “

  305. poohpity says:

    Eph 3:12; Hebrews 4:16 Being confident in Christ shows our trust so I do not know how one can be overconfident in regards to anything about God that would be like saying I overly trust God and that would be a good thing wouldn’t it?

  306. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Pooh, I want to write to you, to warn you, that you really did judge my heart last week in writing this:

    “You do not have a discussion with me, you accuse me, jump to conclusions about me and think you know my heart, so in other words you talk at me or about me but not to me. More like a Pharisee than a sister in Christ! So your blessing does not seem heart felt but just another thing to check off a list of things to do in a public forum but it does not cover what is really in your heart. Just for your information God has blessed me more than I can ever fully explain and I pray and hope that He will do that for you as well and that is from a heart touched by God that I do not have to publicly share to look good to others when inside one is filled with animosity.”
    nov 19, 8.26 am

    I feel urged to warn you: Do not judge another person.
    You do not know what is in my heart, yet you judge that I am inside full of animosity.
    I did not accuse you!
    I only said to study the bible verse before you turn down what I wrote. I did not attack your integrity, I did not attack you personally.
    I only said: Please study this bibleverse, Matt 11:12.

    So I warn you, that this judgment of yours stand written….on November 19, 8.26 am

  307. foreverblessed says:

    And to add to my last post:
    I dearly dearly love you Pooh!
    It would have been cruel of me not to have warned you. I warn you out of love for you. So you can clear up that what has gone wrong!

  308. Beloved says:

    Forever yes, there is clearly paranoia coming from a broken heart of pooh here. Fervent prayer is good until God gets through to her. Confronting definitely shakes things out, yes,I love her also but she only feels hate. Can’t change how others feel, but Jesus can!!! He’s been changing me, albeit slowly, letting mercy and grace sink in through the hard shell of my own psyche.

    Blessed are the merciful, for they shall find mercy– not always from others but from God! Dwelling on mercy is best, we know all too well what sin and evil looks like, don’t we, we all have mirrors.

  309. Beloved says:

    Pooh please don’t trust me, trust God alone. I will always fail you. In fact I don’t trust anybody, but God. Who is always good yet challenging at the same time. I rarely confront you about biblical errors because I know you do not take them well and your reactions take up too much of my energy. Yesterday things were going along so well until you attacked Street with lies and slander, only God knows your motives.
    A whirlpool sifts truth and lies together and always comes up with the worst garbage on top. Better to let you LIGHT shine so all can be edified.

  310. street says:

    the only thing that we have earned at the hands of perfect justice is perfect punishment. rc sproul

    making the gospel of Jesus Christ the greatest treasure on earth. His grace and mercy are everlasting.

    God, in Christ reconciling the world to Himself.

    a world lost.

    to Him/Jesus be Glory now and forever. mercy

  311. Beloved says:

    Reconciled, love that. Breathing deeply in God’s love and mercy. Blessings all!

  312. Beloved says:

    Forever the Netherlands made big news with the asylum prayer vigil. Did you attend?

  313. foreverblessed says:

    Did you mean the prayer vigil for Bibi, the christian woman in Pakistan, sentenced to death?
    That was November 9. At that time I was in Aken, Aachen Germany. Which I greatly rejoiced.
    I do not know of any other prayer vigil.

    But thanks for telling me. These refugees….God have mercy on them all, and so do we, as nations.

  314. Beloved says:

    Bethel church, The Hague. I saw the article in Time.

  315. foreverblessed says:

    Oh, yes, there is also an article in the Christianity Today, December 5.
    That was yesterday, today is December 6, the name day of Saint Nicolaas. Which was a festival last night in our country. The giving of presents to children.

    That of “kinderpardon” is a big thing overhere. Children who have lived here more than 5 years, in asylum, and who are sent back to their native country.

  316. Beloved says:

    Kinderpardon, interesting! Currently children born of illegals here are automatically given legal status as citizens, although our president wants to change that, last I heard.

    I’ve been thinking about how it was Christians who were responsible for starting the first hospitals, universities, homeless shelters and on and on. Thinking about how merciful God is to ALL! Taking in the alien is also due to the mercy of God. I think it’s hard to decide who deserves mercy which comes up often in politics lately. Being wise as serpents is important we know. It gets hard to go the extra mile when unlimited mercy puts your family in danger. But that’s another topic maybe?

  317. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    December 6, 2018 at 7:11 am

    Viv, I also do not know about you but I do not trust anyone that I do not know and that also includes God. I trust God not because I know about Him but because I have developed a close relationship with Him and have learned to trust that His ways are better than anything I can come up with or any other human being can.

    Pooh, I have trusted God since I was a child and my parents sent me to the gospel hall and to Sunday School and I was taught that Jesus died for my sins.

    Yes, I was wayward and made bad choices that led to my mental illness but that also brought me closer to God. I have seen God work in my mums, dads and friends life which is why I know that He is the best friend I will ever have.

    God is good all the time but we are not and that is enough for me to trust God above all other.

    “God Is Good All The Time”

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    If you’re walking through the valley
    And there are shadows all around
    Do not fear, He will guide you

    He will keep you safe and sound
    He has promised to never leave you
    Nor forsake you, and His word is true

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in the heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    We were sinners and so unworthy
    Still for us He chose to die
    Filled us with His Holy Spirit

    Now we can stand and testify
    That His love is everlasting
    And His mercies, they will never end

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    Though I may not understand
    All the plans you have for me
    My life is in your hands
    And through the eyes of faith
    I can clearly see

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in the heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

  318. poohpity says:

    Viv, if one trusts God so much then why is it so hard to forgive others even if they were at one time an enemy?

    forever, I do not trust what is in your heart. That is my right to feel and think that way, it is called discernment. When someone talks at me I have every right to judge or question their motives. I hope everyone does that because if we trusted everything or what everyone said it sure would put us in a horrible place, very unwise and very gullible.

    Joyce, when you see any little thing that is not congruent with what is taught in the Bible that I share, it would not bother me at all to be corrected. Although after reading how you flatter people that make no sense, or have no idea what is taught in the bible I doubt if you really know enough to do that but it would be surely welcome on my part.

  319. poohpity says:

    You know something Joyce out of most on here I find reading the things you write more in tune with God’s word or on track with what Mart gives us to think about but then you go and flatter someone who is coming from left field or misunderstands something and I just shake me head in bewilderment as you go along with what they say. I really get confused be that.

  320. Beloved says:

    street says:
    December 5, 2018 at 5:38 pm

    I just read My Utmost Dec. 7 it explains repentance and transformation very well.

  321. Beloved says:

    Pooh sorry for your confusion.

  322. Beloved says:

    Forever thank you for the quotes from Thomas a Kempis. It’s so good to be reminded to live today as if it were the last! Doing my best to be worthy of my calling, (though I’ll never be more worthy than what Jesus did for me, a sinner), yet living a life transformed by love, grace and Mercy!

  323. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    December 6, 2018 at 6:31 pm

    Viv, if one trusts God so much then why is it so hard to forgive others even if they were at one time an enemy?

    I don’t believe they are still not our enemies as if they were our friends they would surely give back their victims the bodies of their loved ones as a gesture of their good will.

    When trust has broken down then those who have been abused find it difficult to get the trust back as they have been damaged by the consequences.

    Hurt people often become reclusive as they often feel no one cares or understands them and it is very much in God’s hands when people cut themselves of from those around them due to feeling this way.

  324. street says:

    thinking people can not be related well with each other unless they are related to God first. thinking of loving God Whom you can not see. the other though is barnabas and paul splitting up. and then there is paul to think about.

    mercy mercy mercy.

  325. poohpity says:

    Viv, I did not say to trust anyone but God and if we trust God then we will forgive others. That does not mean we will try to be friends with them after being abused but we will not hold unforgiveness in our hearts towards them no matter what they do or have done. The unforgiveness or lack of mercy hurts no one but the one who holds that in their hearts instead of mercy or forgiveness which shows a lack of trust in God knowing He will take care of any offense against us, others or God in His time, so we can let go of it and put it in God’s capable hands.

  326. street says:

    52 Why do you boast in evil, O mighty man?
    The lovingkindness of God endures all day long.
    Your tongue devises destruction,
    Like a sharp razor, O worker of deceit.
    You love evil more than good,
    Falsehood more than speaking what is right. [c]Selah.
    You love all words that devour,
    O deceitful tongue.

    [d]But God will break you down forever;
    He will snatch you up and tear you away from your tent,
    And uproot you from the land of the living. Selah.
    The righteous will see and fear,
    And will laugh at him, saying,
    “Behold, the man who would not make God his refuge,
    But trusted in the abundance of his riches
    And was strong in [e]his evil desire.”

    But as for me, I am like a green olive tree in the house of God;
    I trust in the lovingkindness of God forever and ever.
    I will give You thanks forever, because You have done it,
    And I will wait on Your name, for it is good, in the presence of Your godly ones.

  327. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, I cannot explain to you how 30 years of bombings, bullets, punishment beatings and intimidation every day in a country as small as this one destroys even our faith because you would have to live through it to understand.

    Hope in God and looking to the future is what keeps me going because I have seen too much of the hatred and violence of men to understand their reasoning.

    My faith developed in my personal life as that is where God worked and so I am blessed to know that God does not abandon us but there are many who feel abandoned by God and perhaps if I was in their shoes then I would feel the same.

    I am not disagreeing with what you say but live in the reality and consequences of something that is way beyond my understanding because it has plagued this Island because men in their wisdom do not learn from history but continue to use it as a weapon to beat each other with.

    Man wants to be right more than he wants God to be right because he just cannot stop being ‘a know it all’ and perhaps why not surprisingly God uses the simplicity of our faith to accomplish His will so that no man may boast proving that He is indeed Lord over all.

    As you can well imagine being part Northern Irish I have known some alcoholics in my day and why I have come to love this prayer as it speaks of truth to me.

    God grant me the serenity
    To accept the things I cannot change;
    Courage to change the things I can;
    And wisdom to know the difference.

    Living one day at a time;
    Enjoying one moment at a time;
    Accepting hardships as the pathway to peace;
    Taking, as He did, this sinful world
    As it is, not as I would have it;
    Trusting that He will make all things right
    If I surrender to His Will;
    So that I may be reasonably happy in this life
    And supremely happy with Him
    Forever and ever in the next.


  328. foreverblessed says:

    This morning something beautiful happened:
    Someone called at my housedoor, and it was the neighbour, a lady, 86 years old. Last week I had noticed them to close there windows because of the dust of the sanding of our walls. She was quite etchy then, and I was wondering was was wrong. But left it there.
    Now she said: THis night I woke up, and thought:
    I was so unfriendly to my enighbour, that was not right, I have to apologise for it.
    And so she said: Sorry, that I was so unfriendly to you last week!
    And I was so thrilled: I hugged her and gave her a kiss!
    And it was as if God was saying to me:
    See yourself in the future hugging Pooh just the same way as you do now with your neighbour!
    One day Pooh will see what she has done to you, judging your heart.
    And I envision myself, giving Pooh a big hug:
    Forget about it all! It’s allright now!


  329. foreverblessed says:

    The lady also explained why she was so unfriendly:
    The noise of the compressor for the sanding was terrible for her ears. Her ears do not damp the loudness, and make it sharper. She suffered because of the noice, and was tense.
    We laughed together and really enjoyed the moment.

    She was also telling me, that when she was ayoung child, she could not bear it that she had done something wrong. She would think about it laying in bed, and would get up and go downstairs saying sorry to her parents. She said, she wanted to go to sleep with a clear conscience!
    And that is a very godly principle!
    Have all a blessed day!

  330. Beloved says:

    Good story Forever, so good when Gods people dwell together in unity. I am thinking about conscience and found this from Charles Stanley where he after describing 3 types of conscience says this:

    The conscience is an awesome thing that God put within us to help us live a holy and righteous life. It, along with the Holy Spirit, identifies whatever is wrong and should be avoided. Knowing that God loves us, is always working on our behalf, and has our best interests at heart should motivate us to listen and obey the promptings of our conscience. We may not always understand why the Lord is forbidding us to go a certain direction, but we can trust Him and His Word as the final authority for our lives because He is always right about every situation we encounter.

  331. Beloved says:

    Relative to the topic thinking of the cold heartedness of the bully and wondering if the conscience has been seared? Chilling thought. If rather stay on the side of mercy, receiving help and hope when my conscience is telling me I’m in danger of becoming hard and cold to the things of God.

  332. Beloved says:

    The first comment I made about the topic I confessed to having the cold hardheartedness of a bully at one time. Yet remembering back when Christ came into my life and changed me the heart began to soften and sin became abhorrent to me. I was no longer focused on what I could get to make myself happy, but what I could give to God through giving to others, as God had given me more than I could have even imagined and still does! We can choose the path of either death to self or a heart hardened by the passions of this world leading away from God. He lets us choose. Chilling. Mercy.

  333. poohpity says:

    Wow, the lady apologized to you forever for her attitude. The attitude was because of the noise and dust from your construction that was effecting her comfort and her life. Did you ever apologize to her for causing such discomfort to her life from your construction at her age? I would be a bit cranky too at age 86 if my neighbor was causing such turmoil to my everyday peace. But she was right in apologizing at being sharp with you instead of calmly saying how her life is being disrupted by your construction. The saddest part to me is not mentioning whether you admitted to her how sorry you are for disturbing I would imagine her, up till this time, quiet life. But of course she seems to be the one walking on higher ground.

    However I have not lost my temper with your superior attitude towards me or your false accusation thinking you know what is in my heart or mind. Nor have I yelled at you or even had bad feelings towards you to apologize for something I have not done seems pretty weird for me. I have however disagreed with you but I had no ill will for you but that caused angst within you not me. When I disagree with someone or they disagree with me it does cause anger, bitterness or anything else negative, it is simply a differing view point which if we all had the same view point what a boring world this would be. It is not you are right and I am wrong type thinking it is simply what are we taught in scripture or what we not or what we do not know yet.

  334. Beloved says:

    Beloved says:
    December 7, 2018 at 11:04 am
    “If rather” should be I’d rather…

  335. street says:

    6 Seek the Lord while you can find him.

    Call on him now while he is near.

    7 Let the wicked change their ways

    and banish the very thought of doing wrong.

    Let them turn to the Lord that he may have mercy on them.

    Yes, turn to our God, for he will forgive generously.

    8 “My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts,” says the Lord.

    “And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine.

    9 For just as the heavens are higher than the earth,

    so my ways are higher than your ways

    and my thoughts higher than your thoughts.

    10 “The rain and snow come down from the heavens

    and stay on the ground to water the earth.

    They cause the grain to grow,

    producing seed for the farmer

    and bread for the hungry.

    11 It is the same with my word.

    I send it out, and it always produces fruit.

    It will accomplish all I want it to,

    and it will prosper everywhere I send it.

  336. foreverblessed says:

    The explanation of Matthew 11:12 is what this all started.

    So let everybody study for themselves what is true.

    It is purely about the meaning of a bible verse. That is all.

    Matthew 11:12 NMB
    From the time of John the Baptist to now, the kingdom of heaven is sorely pressed, and those who go to it with effort seize it for themselves.

  337. street says:

    thinking about the Spirit Gods gives His children

    Spirit and Truth/Word

  338. foreverblessed says:

    Gill’s Exposition of the Entire Bible
    And from the days of John the Baptist until now,…. From the time that he began to preach, to the then present time,
    the kingdom of heaven, the Gospel, and the ministry of it, first by John, then by Christ and his apostles,
    suffereth violence; or “comes with force”, and power upon the souls of men: it was attended with the demonstration of the Spirit, and of power; as appeared by its being the means of quickening persons that were dead in trespasses and sins; enlightening the blind; causing the deaf to hear; melting and softening hearts of stone; making, of enemies, friends to God and Christ; turning men from the power of Satan unto God; setting at liberty such as were slaves and vassals to their own corruptions; and, in a word, in being the power of God unto salvation, to many souls: and which was further seen, in the manner it did all this; suddenly, secretly, powerfully, and effectually, and yet not against the wills of men; and by such instruments as the apostles were, poor, sinful, mortal men; despised by the world, and attended with opposition and persecution: or “suffers violence”; which may be understood, either of the vast numbers, that pressed and crowded to hear the Gospel preached: great numbers followed John, when he first began to preach, and baptize: still a greater number followed Christ, some to hear his doctrine, others to see his miracles, others to behold his person, others out of selfish ends; and some behaved rudely and indecently: or of the ardour and fervency of spirit, which appeared in some, to the ministry of John and Christ, and in their desires and expectations of the kingdom of the Messiah: or of the Gospel’s suffering violence by the persecutions of its enemies opposing and contradicting it, reproaching it, intimidating the professors of it, and seeking to take away the life of Christ, the great subject of it:
    and the violent take it by force; meaning either publicans, and harlots, and Gentile sinners; who might be thought to be a sort of intruders: or rather the same persons, as being powerfully wrought upon under the ministry of the Gospel; who were under violent apprehensions of wrath and vengeance, of their lost and undone state and condition by nature; were violently in love with Christ, and eagerly desirous of salvation by him, and communion with him; and had their affections set upon the things of another world: these having the Gospel preached to them, which is a declaration of God’s love to sinners, a proclamation of peace and pardon, and a publication of righteousness and life by Christ, they greedily catched at it, and embraced it.

  339. foreverblessed says:

    Matthew 11:12

    Matthew Poole’s Commentary
    As John Baptist was a great man, so the Lord hath owned him as such, giving such a success to his ministry, that ever since he began the course of it, men have been carried on with a great ardour and heat, in hearing and receiving the gospel, which is the gospel of the kingdom, and bringeth men into the kingdom of Christ amongst men, and at last to the kingdom of glory. The hearts of men and women have been inflamed with a desire after the knowledge and obtaining of heaven, and heavenly things. They are great persons whom God thus owneth; and those whom the Lord thus owneth, are ordinarily such as have some measures of the spirit of this first gospel ministry, making the great things of God the matter of their discourse, and doing their work with a seriousness, zeal, and fervour fitted to it.

    The violent take it by force: they are not lazy wishes or cold endeavours that will bring men to heaven.

  340. foreverblessed says:

    Matthew 11:12

    Barnes’ Notes on the Bible
    And from the days of John … – That is, from the days when John began to preach. It is not known how long this was, but it was not probably more than a year. Our Saviour here simply states a fact. He says there was a great rush or a crowd pressing to hear John. Multitudes went out to hear him, as if they were about to take the kingdom of heaven by force. See Matthew 3:5. So, he says, it has continued. Since “the kingdom of heaven,” or “the gospel,” has been preached, there has been a “rush” to it. People have been “earnest” about it; they have come “pressing” to obtain the blessing, as if they would take it by violence. There is allusion here to the manner in which cities were taken. Besiegers “pressed” upon them with violence and demolished the walls. With such “earnestness” and “violence,” he says, people had pressed around him and John since they began to preach. There is no allusion here to the manner in which individual sinners seek salvation, but it is a simple record of the fact that multitudes had thronged around him and John to hear the gospel.

  341. foreverblessed says:

    Matthew 11:12

    Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary
    11:7-15 What Christ said concerning John, was not only for his praise, but for the people’s profit. Those who attend on the word will be called to give an account of their improvements. Do we think when the sermon is done, the care is over? No, then the greatest of the care begins. John was a self-denying man, dead to all the pomps of the world and the pleasures of sense. It becomes people, in all their appearances, to be consistent with their character and their situation. John was a great and good man, yet not perfect; therefore he came short of glorified saints. The least in heaven knows more, loves more, and does more in praising God, and receives more from him, than the greatest in this world. But by the kingdom of heaven here, is rather to be understood the kingdom of grace, the gospel dispensation in its power and purity. What reason we have to be thankful that our lot is cast in the days of the kingdom of heaven, under such advantages of light and love! Multitudes were wrought upon by the ministry of John, and became his disciples. And those strove for a place in this kingdom, that one would think had no right nor title to it, and so seemed to be intruders. It shows us what fervency and zeal are required of all. Self must be denied; the bent, the frame and temper of the mind must be altered. Those who will have an interest in the great salvation, will have it upon any terms, and not think them hard, nor quit their hold without a blessing. The things of God are of great and common concern. God requires no more from us than the right use of the faculties he has given us. People are ignorant, because they will not learn.

  342. foreverblessed says:

    Matthew 11:12

    Benson Commentary
    Matthew 11:12. And from the days of John the Baptist — That is, from the time he had borne his public testimony to the approach of the Messiah, or from the time when he had fulfilled his ministry, the kingdom of heaven — The dispensation which admits all persons equally, upon their repentance and faith, suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force — The spirits of men are so excited and animated by a desire after this kingdom, that it is, as it were, attacked like a besieged city, men of all sorts pressing to get into it, with a violence like that of men who are taking a place by storm. As if he had said, “Multitudes are flocking around me, to be instructed in the nature of my kingdom; and some, who were formerly of most licentious characters, and looked upon as utterly unfit to be subjects of the Messiah’s kingdom, are resolutely set on enjoying the blessings of it.” He that hath ears to hear, let him hear — A kind of proverbial expression, requiring the deepest attention to what is spoken.

  343. foreverblessed says:

    Matthew 11:12

    Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers
    (12) The kingdom of heaven suffereth violence.—The Greek verb may be either in the middle voice, “forces its way violently,” or passive, as in the English version, but there is little doubt that the latter is the right rendering. The words describe the eager rush of the crowds of Galilee and Judæa, first to the preaching of the Baptist, and then to that of Jesus. It was, as it were, a city attacked on all sides by those who were eager to take possession of it.
    The violent take it by force.—The Greek noun is without the article, “men who are violent or use force.” The meaning is determined by the preceding clause. The “violent” are men of eager, impetuous zeal, who grasp the kingdom of heaven—i.e., its peace, and pardon, and blessedness—with as much eagerness as men would snatch and carry off as their own the spoil of a conquered city. Their new life is, in the prophet’s language, “given them as a prey” (Jeremiah 21:9; Jeremiah 45:5). There is no thought of hostile purpose in the words.

  344. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Street, for that bible verse from Isaiah

    That is a powerful promise!
    The Living Word is Jesus Christ, His Life in us, that is the Greatest treasure which we ought to look for, with great effort and zeal, the use of the word force in a positive way.

  345. Beloved says:

    The kingdom of God IS ruled so differently from the rules of the world. It is only because of the LORD’S great mercies we are not consumed. Seek Him while He may be found. Today, is the day.

  346. foreverblessed says:

    Pulpit Commentary
    Matthew 11 Verse 12. – It is curious that in St. Luke’s account of this speech of our Lord’s he should omit our vers. 12-14 (on ver. 15, see note there), thus leaving out all Christ’s plainer and more direct teaching about the relation of John to himself. St. Luke places (Luke 16:16) our vers. 12 and 13 in what appears to be merely a cento of sayings. Possibly the original occasion has been recorded by neither evangelist, but in Matthew the passage certainly brings out the thought upon which our Lord was insisting on this occasion. And. Slightly adversative (δέ), for there is a change of subject. Christ urges his hearers to more definitely range themselves under his banner. From the days of John the Baptist until now. Yet this was not more than a few months! Possibly the sentence had become modified in oral teaching, so as to include many years, say up to A.D. or 60. St. Luke’s ἀπὸ τότε is easy enough. Observe the implied success of John’s work as herald. He so prepared the way that men were eager to enter the kingdom which he had said was at hand. The kingdom of heaven. The realm ruled over by Messiah, of which the then community of believers was the earnest (vide Introduction, p. 25.). Suffereth violence (βιάζεται). In Luke it is middle, “Every man entereth violently into it;” and though it is certainly passive here, St. Luke’s phrase compels us to understand the reason of the violence to be entrance into the kingdom. The kingdom is not ill treated, but it is as it were taken by storm (Meyer). Nosgen strangely understands the phrase to mean that the kingdom is set forward with power, and he would apparently see in “the violent” a special reference to our Lord and John. And the violent; and men of violence (Revised Version); καὶ βιασταί: only they; men whose mind is made up and who care not what force and power they employ to attain their object. Take it by force; ἁρπάζζουσιν αὐτήν, “grasp it for themselves,” like rough and violent bandits seizing their prey. Weiss sees in this verse blame of the politico-Messianic endeavours to hasten the completion of the kingdom. This explanation is good in itself (cf. John 6:15), but disconnects the verse from its context. Our Lord is describing the energy with which some souls are pressing in, and urging the need of such energy if salvation is to be obtained.

  347. street says:

    John 14:16-18

    16 And I will ask the Father, and he will give you another advocate to help you and be with you forever— 17 the Spirit of truth. The world cannot accept him, because it neither sees him nor knows him. But you know him, for he lives with you and will be[a] in you. 18 I will not leave you as orphans; I will come to you.

  348. foreverblessed says:

    Matthew 11:12
    Vincent’s Word Studies
    Suffereth violence (βιάζεται)

    Lit., is forced, overpowered, taken by storm. Christ thus graphically portrays the intense excitement which followed John’s ministry; the eager waiting, striving, and struggling of the multitude for the promised king.

    The violent take it by force (βιασταὶ ἁρπάζουσιν αὐτήν)

    This was proved by the multitudes who followed Christ and thronged the doors where he was, and would have taken him by force (the same word) and made him a king (John 6:15). The word take by force means literally to snatch away, carry off. It is often used in the classics of plundering. Meyer renders, Those who use violent efforts, drag it to themselves. So Tynd., They that make violence pull it unto them. Christ speaks of believers. They seize upon the kingdom and make it their own. The Rev., men of violence, is too strong, since it describes a class of habitually and characteristically violent men; whereas the violence in this case is the result of a special and exceptional impulse. The passage recalls the old Greek proverb quoted by Plato against the Sophists, who had corrupted the Athenian youth by promising the easy attainment of wisdom: Good things are hard. Dante has seized the idea:

    “Regnum coelorum (the kingdom of heaven) suffereth violence

    From fervent love, and from that living hope

    That overcometh the divine volition;

    Not in the guise that man o’ercometh man,

    But conquers it because it will be conquered,

    And conquered, conquers by benignity.”

  349. Beloved says:

    20A large house contains not only vessels of gold and silver, but also of wood and clay. Some indeed are for honorable use, but others are for common use. 21So if anyone cleanses himself of what is unfit, he will be a vessel for honor: sanctified, useful to the Master, and prepared for every good work.

    22Flee from youthful passions and pursue righteousness, faith, love, and peace, along with those who call on the Lord out of a pure heart.

    23But reject foolish and ignorant speculation, for you know that it breeds quarreling. 24And a servant of the Lord must not be quarrelsome, but he must be kind to everyone, able to teach, and forbearing. 25He must gently reprove those who oppose him, in the hope that God may grant them repentance leading to a knowledge of the truth. 26Then they will come to their senses and escape the snare of the devil, who has taken them captive to his will.

  350. jeff1 says:

    1.Come, thou long expected Jesus,
    born to set thy people free;
    from our fears and sins release us,
    let us find our rest in thee.
    Israel’s strength and consolation,
    hope of all the earth thou art;
    dear desire of every nation,
    joy of every longing heart.

    2.Born thy people to deliver,
    born a child and yet a King,
    born to reign in us forever,
    now thy gracious kingdom bring.
    By thine own eternal spirit
    rule in all our hearts alone;
    by thine all sufficient merit,
    raise us to thy glorious throne.

  351. poohpity says:

    Forever, wasn’t the discussion about Matt 11:12 a month ago or so? I forgot all about it or even what we talked about till I just read what you quoted from what others have learned. I still do not remember what we even talked about. So if something started then I do not have a clue what it was. Water under the bridge.

  352. Beloved says:

    Found it!
    poohpity says:
    November 18, 2018 at 4:14 pm
    Wow such wisdom trying to twist violence into something good which just shows ignorance in the definition of the word. Notice that street did not address exactly what I said as being false teaching but then gave a scripture that shows exactly what I said as true, if that is not something to chuckle about then I do not know what would be.

  353. Beloved says:

    Forever even Truth feels diminished by brazen arrogance. But only for a second until we recall the Savior lives rules and reigns now and forever. Rules of conduct don’t seem to matter. Please let-go for your own peace. God bless you richly with peace and spiritual prosperity!

    How is your friends chemo going? My friend just finished 3 treatments, lost a lot of weight, and will go to Mayo next week to find out if they can remove some of the cancer surgically. We had a long talk about faith today which was good.

  354. Beloved says:

    Pooh I have very confused feelings about you, as you know. Praying God is sifting through them to where I can have peace. Soon. May He be glorified. May God bless you in Jesus.

  355. poohpity says:

    My feeling towards you Beloved are not confused in the least but I do get confused when a person says one thing and then does another or says something is right when it is not or flatters and encourages someone over false teaching. I can do nothing about anyone’s feelings towards me, feelings come from and are changed by the person who they belong to. No one can make any of us feel one way or another, feelings come from within the person themselves, well unless they want to blame.

    Thank you also for taking all that time to go back and find what forever was talking about. Did it really matter that much? She still holds hard feelings about our discussion years ago about creation, so this was nothing new. I also suggested to let things go for her own peace, hopefully she will listen to you.

  356. Beloved says:

    I think on a blog it’s ok to agree or disagree. If someone gets jealous of others its their own struggle to deal with before God. No matter how they smoke up the blogosphere with judging and nastiness.

    The LORD was good with helping me with my feelings this morning. It’s all good, at the cross. Bless God. There is no confusion there.

  357. Beloved says:

    Forever, pooh will never admit fault or wrong doing, it’s not in her. But only the Spirit of God can.
    A hard heart- who can bear it!

  358. poohpity says:

    First off I do not know why anyone would be jealous of me since everything I know is available for everyone and has been over hundreds of years. Then why don’t you do more research on back reading and find exactly how often I have admitted fault and wrong doing only to have it thrown back in my face, like you often do Joyce but you are not alone in that, after all you are part of the gang and it can not be helped when people can not think for themselves but have to be part of group think. Sadly it is not based on the unity of spiritual thinking but on worldly ways which I find I let myself get dragged into also. But isn’t that common for the battle of our sin nature against the spiritual one.

    I was just reading in Romans 4-7 this morning that when we are told not to do something we usually end up doing it that was why the law did not work. All the do nots end up being do’s and all the things I would like to do end up not being done, thank God for the work of Jesus.

  359. Beloved says:

    No one is jealous of you, pooh. But you seem to be jealous of anybody here who gets any attention at all, first Steve and now Street whom you malign vigorously. You put yourself at odds with everyone. You do it to you!
    When street agrees with you and uses scripture to do it you accuse him of being what, crazy? You laugh and scoff at most here. You are ridiculous. You have criticized me many times for not thinking as you do. I Thank God I do not think as you do, else I too would be the bane of the blog. Keep reading pooh, Romans 8 says we are without excuse if we know the Savior. Although I do not think it will make any difference to you or in you.
    But we can always find hope because of Gods great mercy.

  360. poohpity says:

    Beloved, I can assure you I am not jealous of anyone on here well maybe a little envious of Mart’s ability to write and ask probing questions to get us to think about the subjects.

    The rest of what you said is nothing but lies as usual. Is that what Romans 8 says? It does say that those who are dominated and controlled by their sinful nature see sin in others or just in life in general and sees all the bad stuff.

  361. foreverblessed says:

    Pooh, may God have mercy on you for juding my heart.
    I did my part in warning you, my conscience is clear.
    And as I believe that God is also the God of Jacob, meaning that God as the Holy Spirit was very well able to discipline Jacob, I am positive that God will finish the work that He started in you, as long as you believe in Jesus your Savior.

  362. foreverblessed says:

    Judging my heart

  363. poohpity says:

    forever, if I were you I would be more concerned about God’s warnings to you because while being intent on looking at the lives of others you miss what He is saying to you about yours. The only warning that we are to do is when we hear false teaching to confront it or when someone is caught in a sin that draws them away from God but He says only those who are spiritual should do that with the intent of restoration. None of which is applicable here.

    There is no need to be concerned about how God is working in the life of someone else then we miss what He is doing in our own. I will always judge what I see as being truth and what is hypocrisy or lies, if I do not do that then I will fall prey to what anyone says. That is called being as shrewd as a serpent.

  364. poohpity says:

    Oh by the way better pay closer attention to how one bases the Holy Spirit on Jacob and do a little more research on that one because I believe you have been deceived about who exactly Jacob is and have lost sight of who the Holy Spirit is and His function. John 4:24

  365. Beloved says:

    Dear pooh,
    I read over my comments earlier and am frankly horrified. I am sorry for telling you off and calling you the bane of the blog. That must have hurt. But it felt so good to get it off my chest, so to speak. Why is that I’m not sure except my human fallen nature loves to get a few kicks in every so often when things build to absurdity, oh here I go again. sorry. I do not need any forgiveness or love for that matter from you. Just so you know. Why can’t I love you the way you need to be loved? I don’t know. But I know Jesus can– love you the way you need. I hope I’m ending here with a glimmer of mercy, it’s all I know I have, from anyone or for anyone, for that matter.
    Blessings on your blogging, and mercy for mine,

  366. Beloved says:

    Not kicks, licks.

    I’m not reading anymore on this mercy post.

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