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World Views

Fifty years ago, Bill Anders of the three-man Apollo 8 flight crew took a picture of earth that changed our view of the world.

In an article for Space.com, he describes what it was like to give us a different picture of ourselves at a time when our world seemed to be unraveling. He recalls “The assassinations of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and Robert Kennedy, the Vietnam War and the protests against our involvement there, and the Cold War divided us against ourselves and against the world. Forces from within and without threatened us. Everywhere, tensions ran high. Still, millions of Americans, and  a billion people worldwide tuned in on Christmas Eve to watch our crew’s live television broadcast from space.”

Am wondering whether Ander’s experience gives us a taste of the different ways the Apostle John describes our world. On one hand, he writes, maybe quoting Jesus in his own words, “For God so loved the world that he gave us his only Son” (John 3:16). Then in a later letter, the same author urges, “Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you.” (1John 2:15).

The word John used for “world” (kosmos), suggests the idea of the whole and totality of how things, people, and nature are ordered. In other words, it’s the big picture of how we are, and how things work—how everything and everyone is arranged or rearranged in a world of nature and people.

So, on one hand, we get a picture of how our Creator looks at the whole and totality of us. Then we get another picture of how our rearrangement of everything— based on how we see things, what we want, and how feel about ourselves— is working for us.

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283 Responses to “World Views”

  1. poohpity says:

    Is how we see things working for us? Does it change how we experience God and how we see the world or does it work against us and our experience of God or the world or the people in it? It is about perspective isn’t it? Do I have a narrow focus or am I willing to take another look at the grander picture coming out of my myopic view to consider my seeing may not be all there is to the bigger picture? Isaiah 1:18

  2. SFDBWV says:

    Well Mart you and I must read the same columnist in the Newspaper. As the Christmas Eve paper ran a story about the very picture you have shared with us and the comments the Astronauts broadcast to the world in turmoil.

    They quoted the Genesis account of creation.

    How dare they have secular view and not include every other religious and ethnical culture in their comment.

    My sarcasm I am sure is not lost on most of you.

    But isn’t that what being a Christian is all about? Being bold and unashamed in proclaiming our faith in God and especially Jesus as Lord.

    When the angels proclaimed the birth of Christ to the shepherds the same word for Christ is the same word for Jehovah.


    Again I say, what you say with your mouth is in your heart, what you look for are in your heart and what you look for is what you find.

    To say that God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son and then if you love the world you don’t have the love of the Father in you just don’t make any sense at all.

    Such a contradictory statement requires a more thorough examination of what is being said.

    And the difference between God’s love and the world’s love.

    What in this world do you love? What in this world do you hate?

    How would you heal the world if you could?

    How is God healing the world?


  3. SFDBWV says:

    As an addendum to this subject and heart of its intent I am partially quoting Cal Thomas’s comments in this morning’s paper.

    “A Message Worth Celebrating”
    “The true meaning of Christmas is this: God took on the form of a human to die in our place, paying for our sins, so that humans who receive Him might be forgiven and be with Him forever.”
    Continuing on…”You are free to reject that message and the One who delivered it, but what you are not free to do is to redefine or change the message into something that fits your own beliefs and choices.”

    “Isn’t that the message worth celebrating? Isn’t that Child worth worshiping? Isn’t that Man worth receiving?”

    “As the carol says, “where the meek souls will receive Him still, the dear Christ enters in.”

    Thank you Cal Thomas for your view this morning.


  4. Beloved says:

    in a nutshell..

    This is my father’s world
    And to my listening ears
    All nature sings, and round me rings
    The music of the spheres
    This is my father’s world
    The birds their carols raise
    The morning light, the lily white
    Declare their maker’s praise
    This is my father’s world
    I rest me in the thought
    Of rocks and trees, of skies and seas
    His hand the wonders wrought
    This is my father’s world
    Oh, let me never forget
    That though the wrong seems oft so strong
    God is the ruler yet
    This is my father’s world
    Why should my heart be sad?
    The Lord is king, let the heavens ring
    God reigns, let the earth be glad
    This is my father’s world
    He shines in all that’s fair
    In the rustling grass, I hear him pass
    He speaks to me everywhere
    In the rustling grass, I hear him pass
    He speaks to me everywhere.

  5. poohpity says:

    Steve, you stated; “To say that God so loved the world He gave His only begotten Son and then if you love the world you don’t have the love of the Father in you just don’t make any sense at all.” It is not contradictory in any way. It seems when one reads the bible one is speaking about the inhabitants, people, of the world and the other is speaking of the behaviors or actions of those inhabitants, people. Sort of like hate the sin but love the sinner is another way to put it. Romans 12:2 NLT

    The behaviors or ways of the world are to neglect God and His will, they care nothing for what God has to say or teach, much less to follow after Him. Those would rather do everything their own way but that does not stop God’s love for them and the desire for them to turn from that type of living to looking to Him instead. 1 John 4:10


  6. jeff1 says:

    This world is complex and why I must trust God as I am well out of my depth in seeing as God sees. I must seek God in faith and trust in His ways knowing that His omniscience is greater than the world’s uncertainty.

    If I fail to trust God then I will wander from His truths and loose sight of God’s will and shall be conformed to the world’s ways because I am either submitted to God’s ways or I am conformed to the world’s ways as I cannot be both.

    1. The path that I have trod,
    Has brought me nearer God,
    Though oft it led through sorrow’s gates .
    Though not the way I choose,
    In my way I might lose
    The joy that yet for me awaits
    Not what I wish to be,
    Nor where I wish to go,
    For who am I that I should choose my way?
    The Lord shall choose for me,
    ‘Tis better far, I know,
    So let him bid me go, or stay

    2. The cross that I must bear,
    If I a crown would wear,
    Is not the cross that I should take;
    But since on me ’tis laid,
    I’ll take it unafraid,
    And bear it for the Master’s sake.
    Not what I wish to be,
    Nor where I wish to go,
    For who am I that I should choose my way?
    The Lord shall choose for me,
    ‘Tis better far, I know,
    So let him bid me go, or stay

    3. Submission to the will
    Of him who guides me still
    Is surety of His love revealed;
    My soul shall rise above
    This world in which I move,
    I conquer only when I yield.
    Not what I wish to be,
    Nor where I wish to go,
    For who am I that I should choose my way?
    The Lord shall choose for me,
    ‘Tis better far, I know,
    So let him bid me go, or stay

  7. street says:

    How would you heal the world if you could?

    How is God healing the world?


    by the Good News of Jesus. 8 And there were shepherds living out in the fields nearby, keeping watch over their flocks at night. 9 An angel of the Lord appeared to them, and the glory of the Lord shone around them, and they were terrified. 10 But the angel said to them, “Do not be afraid. I bring you good news that will cause great joy for all the people. 11 Today in the town of David a Savior has been born to you; he is the Messiah, the Lord. 12 This will be a sign to you: You will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.”

    13 Suddenly a great company of the heavenly host appeared with the angel, praising God and saying,

    “Glory to God in the highest heaven,
    and on earth peace to those on whom his favor rests.”

    14 For he himself is our peace, who has made the two groups one and has destroyed the barrier, the dividing wall of hostility, 15 by setting aside in his flesh the law with its commands and regulations. His purpose was to create in himself one new humanity out of the two, thus making peace, 16 and in one body to reconcile both of them to God through the cross, by which he put to death their hostility. 17 He came and preached peace to you who were far away and peace to those who were near. 18 For through him we both have access to the Father by one Spirit.

  8. SFDBWV says:

    Lift Up Your Eyes
    “Lift up your eyes on high, and behold who hath created these things, that bringeth out their host by number: he calleth them all by names by the greatness of his might, for that he is strong in power; not one faileth.” (Isaiah 40:26)

    Our text makes three majestic statements about the cosmos, each reflecting true scientific insight as well as the work of each person of the divine Trinity. The omnipresent Father has “brought out” an infinite “host” of organized systems in the cosmos—galaxies, stars, planets, animals, and people. All are capable of description mathematically, “by number,” and thus all bear witness to their great Designer. Chance processes never generate organization or complexity, so that special creation by God is the only legitimate explanation for the “numbered” host of heaven.

    The Son is the omniscient Word of information, description, and meaning. Every system in the cosmos is not only numbered, but named! That is, in the mind of its Creator, it has a function and has been coded to fulfill its purpose. The Second Law states that systems never code themselves, but rather always tend to distort the information originally programmed into them. Only an omniscient Creator could thus implement the divine purpose for every created entity.

    Finally, the Holy Spirit is the omnipotent Energizer who activates and empowers every system. The Second Law says that energy becomes less available as time goes on, so that only the Creator could provide the energy to activate the designed, programmed cosmos in the beginning.

    When we finally look up and really “behold who hath created these things,” we must see God the Creator—Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. HMM

    That is from Days of Praise, a daily devotional I read every morning, I thought it may fir into our subject of “world views”.

    To view earth from out there in the cosmos should either or both make us feel special and small.

    Every lunar traveler came back with a “religious” revelation as well as seeing us all occupying the planet together.

    Our view of the world around us is always going to be “parochial” because we all live in the world around us complete with all its influences.

    Every decision we make, everything we plan is connected to that existence we live in.

    Yet here is God the Creator of this vast existence who not only individually knows each and every one of us, but has named everything in His creation and amid all these worlds, galaxies and stars He chose to love you and I enough to die in our place, so we can be with Him in eternity.

    I think Street your reply to my question is correct, God heals our world through Jesus of Nazareth the Christ. Whereas mankind tries to heal itself through a series of failed wars and social programs intent on making people all generic instead of special. God sees each of us special and treats each of us in that way, even dying for any one of us.

    I read long ago an author commented that if the only sin ever committed were done by just one person “you” He was willing to die for even just you

    Matt and I went grocery shopping yesterday and got Domino’s to bring home and eat. The cashier at Walmart, (Brandi) just struck up a conversation with Matt all on her own. He enjoyed it so much all the way home and all evening he kept commenting about it. Her little act of kindness and consideration had a big influence on him.

    Just imagine how just a little kindness and consideration can change the view of the world around us all.

    16 degrees as the moon is waning.


  9. jeff1 says:

    “When A Child Is Born”

    A ray of hope flickers in the sky
    A tiny star lights up way up high
    All across the land, dawns a brand new morn
    This comes to pass when a child is born

    A silent wish sails the seven seas
    The winds of change whisper in the trees
    And the walls of doubt crumble, tossed and torn
    This comes to pass when a child is born

    A rosy hue settles all around
    You’ve got the feel you’re on solid ground
    For a spell or two, no-one seems forlorn
    This comes to pass when a child is born

    And all of this happens because the world is waiting,
    Waiting for one child
    Black, white, yellow, no-one knows
    But a child that will grow up and turn tears to laughter,
    Hate to love, war to peace and everyone to everyone’s neighbour
    And misery and suffering will be words to be forgotten, forever

    It’s all a dream, an illusion now
    It must come true, sometime soon somehow
    All across the land, dawns a brand new morn
    This comes to pass when a child is born

  10. Beloved says:

    A beautifully poingant song.

    Life is Hard (but God is good)

    You turn the key
    Then close the door behind you
    Drop your bags on the floor
    You reach for the light
    But there’s darkness deep inside
    And you can’t take it anymore

    ‘Cause sometimes living takes the life out of you
    And sometimes living is all you can do

    Life is hard, the world is cold
    We’re barely young and then we’re old

    But every falling tear is always understood
    Yes, life is hard, but God is good

    You start to cry
    ‘Cause you’ve been strong for so long
    And that’s not how you feel
    You try to pray
    But there’s nothing left to say
    So you just quietly kneel

    In the silence of all that you face
    God will give you His mercy and grace

    Jesus never said
    It was an easy road to travel
    He only said that you would never be alone
    So when your last thread of hope
    Begins to come unraveled
    Don’t give up, He walks beside you
    On this journey home and He knows

    Life is hard, the world is cold
    We’re barely young and then we’re old
    But every falling tear is always understood
    Yes, life is hard, but God is good
    Pam Thum

  11. SFDBWV says:

    “For God so loved the world that he gave us his only Son” (John 3:16 ). Then in a later letter, the same author urges, “Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you.” (1John 2:15 ).

    In the beginning there was something forbidden there in the garden. In my imaginings well before the serpent beguiled Eve the germ of disobedience was already at work within her by way of errant desire.

    She looked upon the forbidden fruit and with her eyes seen it was appetizing. In her heart she already wanted it, but did not dare disobey until the serpent nudged her along.

    She believed the lie.

    “World Views”; how many other forbidden fruits are dangled in our views today that we know are forbidden, yet we want also to believe the lie and think it ok to indulge.

    Adam, it is believed, was not engaged by the serpent perhaps because Adam had been with God longer and less apt to be fooled into believing the lie. Why then after Eve ate of the fruit did Adam join her is up to endless speculation.

    I have always liked the “idea” that Adam may have loved Eve so much he was willing to join her in her separation from God rather than see her suffer alone.

    The thing is that today there are many abominations to God that the world sees as just a choice of life and whereas many Christian people disagree even the elect are pushed to the limit in accepting the world view rather than standing fast with God’s warnings of disobedience.

    It is not easy as the devil uses every human failing in order to persuade us into believing Him rather than obeying God.

    The battle in the Garden rages still in the human heart, but as that beautiful song says; “It is finished, the battle is over, it is finished there’ll be no more war, it is finished the conflict of the ages, it is finished and Jesus is Lord.”

    I do not think God loves the forbidden things of this world and if we do we may not have the love of God in us as John said, but as John also said God sent Jesus to make a way for us all to come to salvation.

    We can either see the waves or walk on them…


  12. Beloved says:

    It is finished, the battle is over and Jesus is LORD!
    Amen amen and amen!

  13. poohpity says:

    It is the world’s view that prevents people from believing what is taught in scripture or believing what God has said but people put their faith in people and what they teach instead, people do not seem to care enough to search the scriptures for themselves so believe every wind of teaching that comes their way even if it sounds totally from left field.

    For example heavenly hosts are not cosmos or planets or galaxies or stars but beings who are hosts from heaven. Just like a host of a hostess does when people come to their home or puts on a party, they have mouths and they can sing which planets or stars, etc can not do.

    Steve, Moses said that Adam was “right next” to Eve when she ate the fruit and the reason that both ate is because they wanted to be like God, the bite of pride. Yes that battle still rages in the human heart, humility can only come from a heart that is surrendered to God.

    1 John 2:15-17 Do not love the world or the things in the world. If anyone loves the world, the love of the Father is not in him. For all that is in the world—the desires of the flesh and the desires of the eyes and pride in possessions—is not from the Father but is from the world. And the world is passing away along with its desires, but whoever does the will of God abides forever.

    Col 2:8 See to it that no one takes you captive by philosophy and empty deceit, according to human tradition, according to the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

    1 Cor 3:2-4 I gave you milk, not solid food, for you were not yet ready for solid food. In fact, you are still not ready, 3for you are still worldly. For since there is jealousy and dissension among you, are you not worldly? Are you not walking in the way of man? 4For when one of you says, “I follow Paul,” and another, “I follow Apollos,” are you not mere men?…

    2 Cor 12:20 For I am afraid that when I come, I may not find you as I wish, and you may not find me as you wish. I fear that there may be quarreling, jealousy, rage, rivalry, slander, gossip, arrogance, and disorder.

    Also in Galatians it compares the flesh or the worldish behaviors to those of being filled with the Spirit.

  14. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    December 27, 2018 at 4:52 pm

    It is the world’s view that prevents people from believing what is taught in scripture or believing what God has said but people put their faith in people and what they teach instead, people do not seem to care enough to search the scriptures for themselves so believe every wind of teaching that comes their way even if it sounds totally from left field.

    We are to put our faith in God and the Bible is for reproof and encouragement and not for debating and it is the wrong use of the Bible that has caused division and quarrelling.

    When I read the Bible for the right reasons then I will come away with a heart for God but if I read it for the wrong reasons then I might as well not read it at all.

    There is no point in blaming those with the world’s view as they are not seeking God because they do not believe in Him to begin with.

    How many denominations have we in the world today because someone disagreed and decided to break away because of it so we are where we are because Christianity has failed God but God has not failed us and that is the truth of the Gospel from what I can see anyway.

  15. bubbles says:

    Could I please ask for you to pray for a situation? Every day I cry and beg God for help. Nothing seems to be happening. Thank you. I feels like God is not listening. When I cry out to him things get worse and worse.

  16. Beloved says:

    ‘but as John also said God sent Jesus to make a way for us all to come to salvation.’

    So true!
    I Corinthians 15:21 For since death came through a man, the resurrection of the dead comes also through a man. 22 For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
    John 3:16 For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
    Such great good news!!

  17. Beloved says:

    James 1:2-4 God’s got the situation.

  18. Beloved says:

    I’m praying for you bubbles.

  19. Regina says:

    Good Evening, All

    “For God so loved the world that he gave us his only Son” (John 3:16Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)). Then in a later letter, the same author urges, “Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you.” (1John 2:15Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)).

    In John 3:16 the word “world” means “mankind” (men, women, boys and girls), and when John admonishes us NOT to love the “world”, I understand that to mean don’t *worship* things, money, people, nature, animals, the universe, etc. Worship God (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) and love Him with all your heart, soul and strength. Deut. 6:5 “Love the Lord your God with all your heart, with all your soul, and with all your strength.”

    bubbles, do you have a church family and/or prayer buddy? Asking because friends and family are a major source of support when we’re going through difficult times.

    41 degrees F in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,

  20. poohpity says:

    Regina, it seems you understand the difference in loving the people of the world but not loving the control of the flesh much to the neglect of Spiritual things. So good to read this morning. Amen and Amen!

    bubbles praying for you to find peace in the loving arms of our God, no matter the circumstance one faces.

    Viv, the bible is so much more than what you listed and people who argue about it usually do not know what God says to us in it. It is those who add their own understanding rather than what it says that usually want to argue and only those who do not know what it says who argue back. It is actually the oddest thing ignorance of what is written and lack of Spiritual insight that causes more arguments. Many people argue over something they have never read and it is the pretending they have that causes the quarrels. 2 Tim 2:23

    Correcting false teaching is not arguing but hopefully will restore people to the very foundations of our faith. Paul speaks volumes about that.

  21. poohpity says:

    There is so much to learn about the God we say we worship and the bible gives us so much information about Him but it can not contain all there is to learn but it is a starting point. It is just many do not even what to start to grow in their knowing of Him. Who better to teach us about God than God Himself? The more one learns about Him the more their love, reverence and admiration for Him will grow.

  22. poohpity says:

    Could any of you explain the difference in worldly thinking and how one’s mind is transformed into spiritual thinking without the help of God’s word? Are you even aware the the flesh dominates unless it is replaced with something else? Romans 12:2

  23. poohpity says:

    This is the mind of Christ compared to the thinking of the world;

    Phil 2: Is there any encouragement from belonging to Christ? Any comfort from his love? Any fellowship together in the Spirit? Are your hearts tender and compassionate? 2 Then make me truly happy by agreeing wholeheartedly with each other, loving one another, and working together with one mind and purpose.

    3 Don’t be selfish; don’t try to impress others. Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves. 4 Don’t look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too.

    5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.

    Though he was God,
    he did not think of equality with God
    as something to cling to.
    Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
    he took the humble position of a slave
    and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,
    he humbled himself in obedience to God
    and died a criminal’s death on a cross.

    Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor
    and gave him the name above all other names,
    that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    and every tongue declare that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.

  24. bubbles says:

    Regina,I have worn out a prayer buddy. We have a huge fight on Christmas Eve because I was told I do not have any compassion over this situation, and that is not true.

    My church “family,” ha. I had been a member and attending this church for 30 years. I’d held their children in nursery; taught them in Sunday School. . known some of them since I was in kindergarten myself, and younger. These people bailed on me when I had cancer, so I left that church. My own pastor never called after surgery; never came by to see me, nothing. Only one person called me. One. I don’t understand. That is not how one is treated. Motherless women were looked down upon there, and those who did not have a husband, even more so. I have been attending another church for almost a year. It takes a long time to get to know people in a new place. So, no, I don’t have any support that way.

  25. jeff1 says:

    I listened to a comment on the radio that angered me and I know now why this world will never feel like home to me.

    The DJ said this morning that since 30 years has passed the truth about dealings between politicians can now be revealed to the public.

    It was the DJ’s comments that angered me as he accused Margaret Thatcher the then British Prime Minister for being arrogant because she demanded the then Irish Taisoch to take action in stopping terrorists crossing the border after killing members of the Security Forces here in Northern Ireland and his comments were ‘It is our Irish border and the arrogance of her’.

    If man sees himself as owning the territory then there is no hope for peace in this world because nothing changing if our attitude doesn’t change.

    The Irish still hate the English as much as ever and we are now in the 21st century so history just repeats itself when it comes to men.

  26. poohpity says:

    Do all the Irish hate the English? Or are those the one’s that make the news because the news doesn’t like to report the good that is happening in the world only the bad stuff. I just read an article in “The Irish Times” titled “We need to rethink our innate ‘hate the English’ attitude”. It talked about how times have changed and teaching the children to think like that is just horrible.

  27. Beloved says:

    Thinking about how God causes all circumstances to turn out for our good. Could the good be that these draw us closer to God Himself?!

  28. Beloved says:

    Bubbles I really do feel your pain, I’ve felt the same myself. Thank you for sharing as it makes me feel closer to you my dear and please know you have good friends in the LORD here who love and care about you. The journey is hard, but in Jesus’s company we are never alone. God bless you greatly as He wipes away your tears.

  29. Beloved says:

    Nothing indeed can be more blessed than to live under the reign of God. —Calvin

    From Tabletalk magazine

  30. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, even what we call here as the most moderate of Irish will not visit England for holidays but focus on going to Southern Ireland or speak any way kindly of England or the English.

    It was an Irish man who went to England who presented the Euro-vision song contest and he commented every year on how Ireland never give England any decent score no matter how good the song was.

    Do you believe that the IRA could have sustained 30 years of terrorism without the support of the people i.e providing them with safe houses and hiding them out over the border.

    The only mistake the IRA made was to believe that they could terrorise the Ulster people into a United Ireland because the opposite happened and the Ulster Protestant are more determined to stay British so violence left a lot of broken, damaged and dead people but it did not change the Spirit of the Ulster Protestants because if the Irish could not forgive the British for their tyranny then whatever made them believe that Ulster Protestants would react any differently when they were the tyrants.

    Violence shouldn’t pay and I commend the Ulster people for their stand in remaining loyal to the crown of England in the midst of a 30 year onslaught to force them to abandon their Brutishness.

  31. poohpity says:

    Sorry but what I understood from the article is that are many who are trying to think differently about the separation between the Irish and the English. They are tired of the hostility. I guess we find what we look for.

  32. jeff1 says:

    Its one thing saying something and its quite another doing it and its the British that’s trying to end hostilities by giving the IRA what they demanded including pardons.

    What did the British get in return demands on bringing British soldiers to justice and the Prime Minister making public apologies, not to mention using NI as a political football in their negotiations.

    Did the IRA make any apologies, no, because they say they did nothing wrong, but tell that to the families of the victims of the violence. and you will find that they bear the scars courageously. but they get nothing because they don’t hold the guns to anyone’s head making demands and so Government’s are willing to ignore their plights and succumb to those whose honour is questionable to say the least but then that is what I have come to expect of people in power in this world where corruption and violence is excepted as part of it.

    There is a very good reason God said not to make this world our home and it gets clearer and clearer when I look into the murky world of politics.

    You would be well advised to take anything you read in the papers or anything a politician says with a pinch of salt as truth is not part of their vocabulary but rather spinning it is much more their field of expertise.

  33. bubbles says:

    jeff1, my great grandmother’s people came over from Ulster and started a horse farm in Virginia, where some still live to this day. Another great great grandmother came over from County Cork. I am so very sorry for all the problems that have happened in your beautiful country, and all the heartache that has happened because of it.

  34. Beloved says:

    I think the way the world changes for the good is through followers of Christ, doing what we are told to do in our individual spheres of influence. Christ in us, the hope of glory!

  35. foreverblessed says:

    That is soooo true, Beloved.

    I can only bring a science of heaven, when I allow Christ to live in me.

    I have done some catching up on this blog:
    First: Saled, thanks for your update. What a hard situation! I pray that God will sustain you, your mother, and family!
    To be able to live by the day! To see what blessings there are despite the hardship.

    And Pooh, may God be with you and uphold you, and comfort you!

    Bubbles, sorry to hear about your experience. What an extra hardship in your difficult situation. May Jesus grow into your best Friend. May He be even more close to you.

    And Jeff, I am sorry too, for all the hatred in your country. May it be healed. May it start with christians, who find the real essence of christianity! Living in faith in Jesus, asking the love and forgiveness the mercy from Him! And giving all our hate and irritation to Him.
    The big exchange on the Cross.

  36. jeff1 says:

    Thank you Bubbles and Forever for your kindness and it is good to hear Bubbles of the nice stories of your relatives who made lives away from Ulster and Ireland.

    It is indeed a beautiful country both North and South but its troubled history has prompted many to move from here and I can only say that when I go away on a holiday to another country the freedom I feel in knowing that no one cares whether I am an Ulster Protestant or an Irish Catholic is indescribable.

    Religion has destroyed this country because God was left out of the equation and my dad seen what was happening and there where others like him whose wisdom was to put God first and not get caught up in the murkiness of it all.

    It is one thing being wise after the tribulation but it is quite another to be wise in the midst of it.

  37. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Jeff, you are so right, to be wise in the midst of such a situation! When the atmosphere is poisoned by suspision, by taking sides on the human plane.

    The command of Jesus: To love your enemies is such a powerful message. And so hard to follow, but if Jesus commands it, He also gives a way of doing it: Namely in the Power of His resurrected Life.

    So the only thing we can say: Lord I want to, but You are the Source of true Love, send some from on High, I want to have my will to be Your will.
    Or should I say; Your will becomes mine, me totally agreeing with You, that it is the best way.

    That even when you see that your fellow man has poisonous thoughts and ideas, you still love him. Because it is evil in him, that has made him blind.
    Our enemy is the evil world, not our fellow man.
    Hard to see, when evil has overpowered the other.

    But still, the command of Jesus:
    Love your enemies!

    (A good training groundhere on this blog)

  38. bubbles says:

    Forever, thank you. It’s very hard, especially at night. It’s hard when there is no one physically here; no siblings, no one. It’s easy to say let Jesus be your best friend,but it sure would help to have someone physically here to talk to and hear from and to be able to help me.

  39. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    Thank you, pooh, and I’m glad my comment was a blessing to you!

    bubbles, I feel your pain… rejection by someone you trust and love, someone you’ve invested in, trusted to be there for you when you needed someone is the worst kind of pain and tribulation. I can definitely sympathize with you… No, I’ve never had cancer, but I have felt the ((PAIN)) of loneliness. I invested 27 years to a marriage that was definitely not made in heaven. In my opinion, it was made in HELL. It’s somewhat consoling to me that I was very young when I entered the relationship, nevertheless, some of the *loneliest* days of my life was spent in that relationship. Someone was *physically* there with me, but NOT with me. I could liken that relationship to a disease because, while I was in it, my mind, soul and spirit had no place to rest; it was like a festering sore (on my body) that wouldn’t heal. Walking through those days was very difficult for me. During that time, I learned how to truly *trust* God with my life as I lived day after day in what felt like (and in my mind was) “the valley of the shadow of death.” Right at the end of that relationship, about 6 months to a year before God delivered me out of it, this song came to mind…

    “I Give Myself Away” (William McDowell)

    I give myself away—
    I give myself away,
    So You can use me

    I give myself away—
    I give myself away,
    So You can use me

    Here I am— Here I stand,
    Lord, my life is in your hands
    Lord, I’m longing to see
    Your desires revealed in me

    I give myself away—
    I give myself away,
    So You can use me

    I give myself away—
    I give myself away,
    So You can use me

    Take my heart—Take my life,
    As a living sacrifice
    All my dreams, all my plans,
    Lord I place them in your hands

    I give myself away—
    I give myself away,
    So You can use me

    I give myself away—
    I give myself away,
    So You can use me

    My life is not my own,
    To you I belong
    I give myself, I give myself to you…

    And every time I felt the PAIN of being bound to someone who didn’t value me in any way, I would (repeatedly) say to the LORD, “Jesus, I gave myself to you, so if you want me to stay in this relationship (even though I don’t believe that it’s bringing you glory or honor), I’ll do it.” Or I would say to myself, “I gave myself to Jesus, so I’m just going to trust that, some way, somehow, this broken relationship is bringing Him glory.” And when I FULLY and WHOLEHEARTEDLY gave myself to Jesus, He delivered me! :-)

    My prayer for you, bubbles, is that no matter what valley you have to walk through (even if it’s the valley of the shadow of death) that you will trust and know that the LORD is right there with you… even though you can’t touch Him physically. That you will know in the deepest parts of your mind, spirit and soul that… HE’s right there with you, and He will never leave you or forsake you.

    37 degrees F in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,

  40. Beloved says:

    Good and uplifting conversations thus far are a blessing to my soul!

    Come, Thou Fount of every blessing
    Tune my heart to sing Thy grace
    Streams of mercy, never ceasing
    Call for songs of loudest praise
    Teach me some melodious sonnet
    Sung by flaming tongues above
    Praise the mount, I’m fixed upon it
    Mount of Thy redeeming love
    Here I raise my Ebenezer
    Here there by Thy great help I’ve come
    And I hope, by Thy good pleasure
    Safely to arrive at home
    Jesus sought me when a stranger
    Wandering from the fold of God
    He, to rescue me from danger
    Interposed His precious blood
    Oh, that day when freed from sinning
    I shall see Thy lovely face
    Clothed then in the blood washed linen
    How I’ll sing Thy wondrous grace
    Come, my Lord, no longer tarry
    Take my ransomed soul away
    Send Thine angels now to carry
    Me to realms of endless day
    Oh, to grace how great a debtor
    Daily I’m constrained to be
    Let that goodness like a fetter
    Bind my wandering heart to Thee
    Prone to wander, Lord, I feel it
    Prone to leave the God I love
    Here’s my heart, oh, take and seal it
    Seal it for Thy courts above
    Here’s my heart, oh, take and seal it
    Seal it for Thy courts above

  41. jeff1 says:

    That is beautiful Beloved, and so true of me, oh how I am prone to wander and how difficult it is to stay focused.

  42. Beloved says:

    I used to wish for a “Jesus with skin on” also bubbles. I had to learn that helpers along the way are just that, helpers, like the Holy Spirit is our helper. I did not know what a gift it was in my solitude to find Jesus Himself. God has much more confidence in me than I have in myself. Faithful, true, patient, always loving the least, the lonely the forgotten. Treasured you are, bubbles.

  43. Beloved says:

    Viv my mind drives me crazy sometimes also. I’ve always had a hard time focusing on one thing. I woke up in the night and tried to pray but over and over my prayers were hijacked by other things, meaningless stuff. So I finally said to God, You know I love you and am so thankful to know that You exist and that you know what I’m trying to pray, I bless You. Amen. Kind of tired today but smile knowing He’s always with me. He’s sooo good to me and everyone!

  44. Beloved says:

    Having a Christian worldview makes God seem better and better, if thats possible. Possible for God to be better???
    It’s only because my secular worldview clouds Gods goodness, kindness mercy and love. He’s so personal. Like the Best best friend in the world. Not that I don’t have my own times of doubt, fear and wondering, but they are more and more brief, silly even to me anymore.

  45. jeff1 says:

    “Nearer My God To Thee”

    Nearer, My God to Thee,
    Nearer to Thee,
    Even though it be a cross,
    That raiseth me…

    Still, all my song shall be,
    Nearer, My God to Thee,
    Nearer, My God to Thee,
    Nearer to Thee…

    Though like the wanderer,
    The sun gone down,
    Darkness be over me,
    My rest a stone…

    Yet in my dreams I’ll be,
    Nearer, My God to Thee,
    Nearer, My God to Thee,
    Nearer to Thee…

    There let the way appear,
    Steps unto Heaven,
    All that thou sendest me,
    In mercy given!

    Angels to beckon me,
    Nearer, My God to Thee,
    Nearer, My God to Thee,
    Nearer to Thee…

  46. Beloved says:

    Revelation 12:11 KJV
    11 And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

  47. poohpity says:

    WOW Regina, that was just beautiful and shows a heart truly dedicated to the Lord. Thank you for another blessing. Boy have you ever grown A LOT! Love you Deb

  48. Regina says:

    Thank you so much, pooh. I’m so glad that my testimony was a blessing to you. Yes, I’m the LORD’s servant forever! He taught me SO much when I was in that dark place. He gave me godly wisdom that I’m compelled to pass on for the rest of my life.

  49. bubbles says:

    Regina, yes, you are right! I am sorry if I came across as mean; I didn’t mean it towards you. It is only frustration. I agree with all you said. It humbles me that our Lord was forsaken by the Father yet He promises to never do that to us. I cannot understand all of that; and yes, I am VERY thankful to know He is always with me. I just wish I had a human to talk to sometimes. You know. . But we have a perfect friend in Jesus.
    Thank you.

  50. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    Love you too, Deb!

    bubbles, you didn’t come across as mean, not at all. I understand how you feel. You want a friend in your life who truly cares about you, someone who’s compassionate, kind, patient and understanding. Someone who can feel what you feel about the situation you’re in right now. My Pastor always says that if we are fortunate enough to find 1 to 3 “true” friends in our lifetime, we’re *truly* blessed! I would suggest, bubbles, that you start praying for the kind of friend that you want and need (someone who truly cares about you). And the only thing that I think the Lord would require is that you be as much a *friend* to that person as you would desire him or her to be to you. Yes, Jesus is our best friend, but He understands when we need an actual person in our life who we can (truly) depend on for genuine friendship. You’re welcome. 1 Cor. 13:13.

    Love to all,

  51. SFDBWV says:

    Loneliness is a terrible feeling and when left unattended to can be an open door to disaster.

    The Lord knew this when He said, “it is not good that the man should be alone; I will make a help meet for him.” (Genesis 2:18 KJV)

    Genesis 2:19 KJV states that out of the ground God formed every beast of the field and every fowl of the air and brought them to Adam to see what he would call them, whatsoever Adam called them became their name. Genesis 2:20 KJV so Adam named every cattle, fowl and beast of the field, but there was not found a proper companion for Adam.

    I find it very interesting that God did not name the creatures He created, but gave that duty to Adam to do. This took not only quite some time, but also a very deep understanding of every creature.

    Adam was very intelligent. But being intelligent and surrounded by all of nature was not what Adam needed.

    It is my belief that in due time and in proper season God will bring the “proper” people into our lives that will satisfy that missing part of our lives.

    When I look at the picture of the earth rise over the moon horizon, I can’t but think how lonely all earthlings should feel when looked upon as being the only place where life is found in all of the universe.

    It should make us appreciate each other more.

    Don’t worry, God will provide.

    Praying for you Bubbles with all earnest.


  52. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning to you Regina, I see you too are a very early riser. Matt’s had his breakfast and I am enjoying a little computer time before getting into my duties.

    It is snowing here, something the weather people forgot to mention…

    I pray yours and everyone’s day is filled with love and blessings.


  53. poohpity says:

    When God created Eve for Adam there were no other human beings around, so who would populate the earth?

    bubbles, you did not sound mean to me either.

    There is a saying when all you have is Jesus, you will find that is all you needed. When things do not go the way I would like I always ask the Lord what are you trying to teach me in this season. With the Lord everyday is filled with love and blessings.

    This is the first time in my life that I have lived without anyone even an animal to take of which has left me with more time to do kingdom work. I understand now what Paul was speaking of when he said if you can remain single and not burn with passion then you are better off to do the Lord’s work and there is so much good to be done.

  54. jeff1 says:

    December 29, 2018 at 7:03 am
    Forever says:

    That even when you see that your fellow man has poisonous thoughts and ideas, you still love him. Because it is evil in him, that has made him blind.
    Our enemy is the evil world, not our fellow man.
    Hard to see, when evil has overpowered the other.

    Forever, that is why I understand my enemies better than my dad did because he stayed closer to God and by doing so was able to be objective in seeing the wrongs on both sides while I took sides as did my enemies.

    My dad understood what God’s expectations of him were and that was incredibly rare in the world I lived in because I had convinced myself God was on the Protestant’s side but my dad was right in saying that God doesn’t do sides and you have to align yourself with His truths and not your own.

    My dad knew God while I did not as I was following my in doctrine which is what the Catholics were doing too.

    My dad was tuned into God’s promptings and no person could influence him in seeing God’s truth as he was aligned to God’s will and it is the rarest and most incredible thing to see someone in step with God for someone like myself who is either lagging behind or running in front and feeling inadequate or overwhelmed but to see a man walk in the light of God’s truths is the most miraculous sight I have encountered.

    Who am I

    When I think of how He came so far from glory
    Came to dwell among the lowly such as I
    To suffer shame and such disgrace
    On Mount Calvary take my place
    Then I ask myself this question
    Who am I?

    Who am I that The King would bleed and die for
    Who am I that He would pray not my will, Thy Lord
    The answer I may never know
    Why He ever loved me so
    But to that old rugged cross He’d go
    For who am I?

    When I’m reminded of His words
    I’ll leave Him never
    If you’ll be true I’ll give to you life forever
    Oh I wonder what I could have done
    To deserve God’s only Son
    To fight my battles until they’re won
    For who am I?

    Who am I that The King would bleed and die for
    Who am I that He would pray not my will, Thy Lord
    The answer I may never know
    Why He ever loved me so
    But to that old rugged cross He’d go
    For who am I?
    But to an old rugged cross He’d go for, who am I?

  55. poohpity says:

    Mart seemed to be saying that often if not always we rearrange things based on self not on how God sees things but our perspective which if you really think about it is tarnished, slanted and biased, so we come away with a lack of understanding of the whole. We see things as if we are looking through this tiny lens and most the other things around us gets ignored because we are so self focused. Often it seems we would like to rearrange things to fit into our little box or little world view rather than seeing the bigger picture.

    We miss so much because we make a choice to not look beyond our own backyard, so to speak, to micro manage not only our own lives but the lives of those closest to us. God gave us this big thing of free will and yet we want to have many look at life through our own limited sight range. It is like trying to imagine what a whole puzzle looks like with having only one tiny piece of it. Or trying to imagine what I painting looks like with only one brush stroke to base it on. Or hearing one note and thinking we know what the whole song is like.

    God can and does expand our horizons of our thinking when we give Him access to our hearts and minds. He helps us to see things and people His way. His way is
    “God so loved the world that He gave” yet our way or the ways of the world are “you have to earn my love”. World views are quite different from the views of God actually sort of upside down and inside out.

  56. jeff1 says:

    That explains why God says do not make this world your home because you will only be disappointed. Is there anyone who finds this world satisfactory or would most of us agree that we long for a better world to come.

    God doesn’t ask us to trust Him for any other reason than it is He who knows best and He has proved that time and time again and yet I still find myself doubting Him because I am a doubting Thomas rather than a Peter or Paul whose faith moved mountains.

    My dad had an incredible faith and the greater the tribulation the closer he stayed to God while it had the opposite effect on me so I don’t believe it is right to stereotype Christians as we are different in our seeing and believing.

    It is ‘I’ who limits my view because I hold on to my prejudices which is wrong and God for all the right reasons won’t allow it.

    It is God’s faithfulness to me and not mine to Him that triumphs Satan and that is the truth of the Gospel that man cannot change though he would if he could.

    Great Is Thy Faithfulness

    Great is Thy faithfulness,” O God my Father,
    There is no shadow of turning with Thee;
    Thou changest not, Thy compassions, they fail not
    As Thou hast been Thou forever wilt be.
    “Great is Thy faithfulness!” “Great is Thy faithfulness!”
    Morning by morning new mercies I see
    All I have needed Thy hand hath provided
    “Great is Thy faithfulness,” Lord, unto me!

    Summer and winter, and springtime and harvest
    Sun, moon and stars in their courses above
    Join with all nature in manifold witness
    To Thy great faithfulness, mercy and love

    Pardon for sin and a peace that endureth
    Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide
    Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow
    Blessings all mine, with ten thousand beside

  57. Beloved says:

    Great is Thy faithfulness…Indeed!

  58. street says:

    — based on how we see things, what we want, and how feel about ourselves— is working for us.

  59. Beloved says:

    No comparison.

  60. foreverblessed says:

    Dear everybody!
    May we lay the past year in God’s hand, all things that went wrong are taken up with Jesus on the Cross.
    The Redemption on the Cross, is so great, so powerful!
    May we not dwell on the past, and start New, on New Year’s Eve.

    “Forget the former things,
    Do not dwell on the past.
    See I am doing a new thing!
    Now it springs up,
    do you not perceive it?”
    Isaiah 43:18-19

    (Verse of the day of Biblegateway)

  61. poohpity says:

    Our sermon yesterday was on Isaiah 58 and why God seems silent because more often than not our worship is self serving or to look religious, pious which would be a world type view. A good look inside to start the new year if one wants a closer relationship with the Lord and God can tell those that do and is quick to answer when we call.

    So if you ever ask yourself, “what am I missing?” Some of those answers may be found in that chapter.

  62. Beloved says:

    Blessed New Year Forever and Vivien! While your day is ending mine is starting. Thoughts of “Amazing Grace” are with me this morning as a reminder to set my eyes on Jesus, not others not even myself. May God be blessed in each of our lives today and the coming year.

  63. Beloved says:

    A blessed New Year to you also!

  64. jeff1 says:

    And to you Beloved, may it bring us closer to God so that I find comfort in His truths and not overwhelmed by the worlds views.

    “Take My Hand, Precious Lord”

    Precious Lord, take my hand
    Lead me on, let me stand
    I’m tired, I’m weak, I’m worn
    Through the storm, through the night
    Lead me on to the light
    Take my hand precious Lord, lead me home

    When my way grows drear precious Lord linger near
    When my light is almost gone
    Hear my cry, hear my call
    Hold my hand lest I fall
    Take my hand precious Lord, lead me home

    When the darkness appears and the night draws near
    And the day is past and gone
    At the river I stand
    Guide my feet, hold my hand
    Take my hand precious Lord, lead me home

    Precious Lord, take my hand
    Lead me on, let me stand
    I’m tired, I’m weak, I’m worn
    Through the storm, through the night
    Lead me on to the light
    Take my hand precious Lord, lead me home

  65. Beloved says:

    And to you Beloved, may *it* bring us closer to God..

    You nailed it Viv! The more we understand Gods amazing grace, the closer we *feel* to God!

  66. SFDBWV says:

    Take the time to consider that in all of the vast universe as stated in Genesis 1:14 KJV “let there be lights for signs and seasons, for days and for years:”

    These stars these galaxies all move together in time so that each “New Year” the stars tell us so.

    Here is a little quote; “Hope smiles from the threshold of the year to come, whispering, it will be happier.”
    Alfred Lord Tennyson

    Hebrew 11:1 KJV “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen.”


  67. SFDBWV says:

    Hebrews 11:1 KJV

  68. Regina says:

    Good Afternoon, All

    Yes, Steve, I’m an early riser, and thank you for your prayers for me and the rest of the Brethren… Have been a little distracted over the past 2 days. I’m on vacation, but as many of you know I’m in the choir at my church. And today, I was distracted by favorite tv shows and youtube videos when I needed to be studying my choir music. I’m headed to church in about an hour as we always bring in the New Year as a church family. forever, my Pastor preached on Isa. 43:16; 18-19 yesterday, and I opened up Bible gateway this morning and saw that verse! WOW! Was confirmation to me that God is, indeed, going to do a “new thing” in the lives of His children, all who LOVE Him, in the coming New Year (and for the rest of our lives)! Well, I have to hurry on now. The LORD hath need of me…

    Love to all,

  69. foreverblessed says:

    Dear all!
    May this be a good year for all of you.
    The thing I wanted to focus on is: sharing all my moments with Jesus.
    Last year that was also my new years resolve, sharing my all with Jesus, how difficult that is, it needs a lot of discipline. Training.

    But some days, that looked to be really boring, dark weather, just chores to do that are not interesting. But when I really have these moments to Jesus, the day became a miracle!

    When Jesus is with us, we are in heaven.
    Bubbles,it is true that I do not know your loneliness, but I was praying for you, that Jesus may strengthen you….
    Despite your situation!

    By that I did not want to make it sound as if it is easy.
    But we have no other option than going to Jesus!
    And I was so happy to see that you accepted my prayer! Thank you for accepting that prayer.
    Not because I can do anything, but because that God works on our praying for each other.

    My example is David, in Psalm 13, David is lamenting his situation,
    Terrible, where are You Lord?

    And for some reason he changes his tone in verse 5:
    But I trust I in Your unfailing love.

    Somewhere deep in his heart a trust in God was layed.
    By the Grace of God we live!

    And Regina, I haven’t said yet that I really enjoy it that you joined us again!
    I hope you had a lovely night with your church family. And thank you for sharing your testimony! God is good, all though He waits so long.
    I am so happy that Bubbles did not loose her faith, but that at times her desperation was so intense! That God stood afar off, so it seemed! He is never too late, that is what we believe, but….
    Ouch, He waited till Lazarus was dead… Too late?

    Psalm 16:5-8
    Lord, You have assigned me my portion and my cup
    ( All of us will have our ordeals, one by one, and when we have them we uphold each other in prayer, in thought)
    You have made my lot secure.
    The boundary lines have fallen for me in pleasant places,
    surely I have a delightful inheritance.

    I will praise the Lord Who counsels me.
    ( And here comes my resolve)
    I have set the Lord always before me.
    Because He is at my righthand I shall not be shaken.

  70. poohpity says:

    Happy New Year everyone! May your grace and peace grow as you learn to know God better through Jesus Christ our Lord as His Word sinks down deep into your heart and mind.

  71. jeff1 says:

    May my trust in God overcome my fears as I look to Christ for my peace and understanding that in Him I can take refuge when I am world weary or when this world threatens to overwhelm me as He has overcome the world and so He is my helper and my keeper and when I submit to Him I will grow in grace and the knowledge that His ways are to overcome the world ways and bring in His Kingdom ways which are contray to the worlds.

    This 2019 open the eyes of my heart Lord.

    A blessed New Year and as you draw near to God know that He will draw near to you.

    1 O Jesus, I have promised
    to serve Thee to the end;
    be Thou forever near me,
    my Master and my Friend;
    I shall not fear the battle
    if Thou art by my side,
    nor wander from the pathway
    if Thou wilt be my guide.

    2 O let me feel Thee near me,
    the world is ever near;
    I see the sights that dazzle,
    the tempting sounds I hear;
    my foes are ever near me,
    around me and within;
    but, Jesus, draw Thou nearer,
    and shield my soul from sin.

    3 O let me hear Thee speaking
    in accents clear and still,
    above the storms of passion,
    the murmurs of self-will;
    O speak to reassure me,
    to hasten or control;
    O speak, and make me listen,
    Thou Guardian of my soul.

    4 O Jesus, Thou hast promised
    to all who follow Thee,
    that where Thou art in glory,
    there shall Thy servant be;
    and, Jesus, I have promised
    to serve Thee to the end;
    O give me grace to follow,
    my Master and my Friend.

  72. poohpity says:

    How do you know what His ways are?

  73. Regina says:

    ((HAPPY)) New Year, All! :-)

    I pray that the Lord will give you supernatural strength and power to be disciplined, balanced, patient, humble, productive, forgiving, and prayerful in 2019!

    The NYE/NYD service at my church last night was phenomenal, but I felt myself getting physically tired while my Pastor was preaching (a phenomenal sermon). The Lord gave me the stamina to stay awake, and it was just *good* to be with my church family as we watched the transition from 2018 (former) to 2019 (new).

    forever, I’m glad to be back and able to fellowship! One of my New Year’s goals is to be more consistent in sharing my life, thoughts, wisdom, and divine revelation with you all. And, bubbles, I (too) pray that the Lord has revived you, and that HE’s meeting all of your emotional and physical needs.

    I want to share a portion of the Bible passage from the ODB devo this morning because I found it very thought provoking…

    Eccl. 9:4-6; 10-11, NIV
    4) Anyone who is among the living has hope—even a live dog is better off than a dead lion!
    5) For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten. 6) Their love, their hate and their jealousy have long since vanished; never again will they have a part in anything that happens under the sun.

    10) Whatever your hand finds to do, do it with all your might, for in the realm of the dead, where you are going, there is neither working nor planning nor knowledge nor wisdom.

    11 I have seen something else under the sun:

    The race is not to the swift or the battle to the strong, nor does food come to the wise or wealth to the brilliant or favor to the learned; but time and chance happen to them all.

    38 degrees F in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,

  74. Beloved says:

    Good day everyone!
    I’ve been thinking about “new” and it seems to me it requires letting go…of everything “old”. God makes all things new, it says. Mercies are new EVERY morning. Thinking what a blessing time is if I believe God is who He says He is. My day will go better and better, amen.
    Gods richest blessings to all!

  75. Beloved says:

    Thinking of you and praying God will bless you richly in this new year. May He restore all your losses and so bring Glory to Himself, as you continue magnifying His Name. Joyce

  76. jeff1 says:

    I think you are right, Beloved, because letting go is submitting all to God and trusting His ways in dealing with it rather than seeking the world’s ways.

    An example, I still fear my enemies because they mean be harm but by praying and putting my hope in God I have relinquished my will to God’s will whereas the worlds way is to take it into their own hands.

    God’s ways are higher than mine so I can know He will combine mercy and justice and bring about the right outcome and so by submitting my will to God’s will I am seeking God given righteousness rather than man driven.

    Prayer takes the outcome out of men’s hands and puts it into God’s hands and that is where it should be to my way of thinking.

    God gives us free will and that means I have to choose to be a vessel for God and that means trusting God to use me as He sees fit and not as I see fit.

  77. Beloved says:

    I was just reading this. The psalmist was in the same predicament as we all may find ourselves in from time to time, but some more. Psalm 119 and Psalm 120
    1 I call on the Lord in my distress,
    and he answers me.
    2 Save me, Lord,
    from lying lips
    and from deceitful tongues.

    3 What will he do to you,
    and what more besides,
    you deceitful tongue?
    4 He will punish you with a warrior’s sharp arrows,
    with burning coals of the broom bush.

    5 Woe to me that I dwell in Meshek,
    that I live among the tents of Kedar!
    6 Too long have I lived
    among those who hate peace.
    7 I am for peace;
    but when I speak, they are for war.

  78. Beloved says:


  79. poohpity says:

    Beloved, thank you for Psalm 119 I especially love verses 105-108;

    105 Your word is a lamp to my feet
    and a light to my path.

    106 I have sworn an oath and confirmed it,
    to keep your righteous rules.

    107 I am severely afflicted;
    give me life, O Lord, according to your word!

    108 Accept lmy freewill offerings of praise, O Lord,
    and mteach me your rules.

  80. poohpity says:

    108 should read, “Accept my freewill offering of praise, O Lord, and teach me your rules or ways”.

  81. poohpity says:

    Whoever it was who wrote that Psalm it seems the very desire of that heart was to know God intimately. Doesn’t it sound that way to you from the words of that song?

  82. poohpity says:

    I often wonder what the music was like that went with it and the other songs as well.

  83. poohpity says:

    Both ODB and DTW are about asking for help. Putting aside pride to ask for help when we need it realizing we do not have to go it alone.

  84. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    beloved and pooh, I (too) love and appreciate Psalm 119, and one of my favorite verses, pooh, a verse that I often think about is Psalm 119:105, “Thy Word is a lamp unto my feet and a light unto my path.” How true that is for me as I live out the days of my life! I believe David wrote that psalm, and I also wonder what the music (in biblical times) sounded like, especially the music that accompanied the Psalms. As I ponder Psalm 119:105, Amy Grant’s song comes to mind. I love her rendition of it.

    One of the songs that we sang at our 12-31 Watch night service brought to mind Psalm 91 and Psalm 27. I’ll share a stanza of it here…

    I shall not fear–the arrow by day–
    Nor shall I fear– the terror by night–
    The God who governs–Angel armies
    Has set encampments, around me–
    Whom– shall I fear??

    I’m reminded of *Psalm 91* in the first two lines, and *Psalm 27:1* in the last line. The book of Psalms is so spiritually refreshing, and I think anyone (especially those who are spirit-filled) would benefit from reading 1 to 3 chapters on a daily basis. The scripture reference in the ODB devotional for 1-2-19 is Psalm 143:4-11:

    4) So my spirit grows faint within me; my heart within me is dismayed.
    5) I remember the days of long ago; I meditate on all your works and consider what your hands have done. 6) I spread out my hands to you; I thirst for you like a parched land. 7) Answer me quickly, LORD; my spirit fails.
    Do not hide your face from me or I will be like those who go down to the pit.
    8) Let the morning bring me word of your unfailing love, for I have put my trust in you. Show me the way I should go, for to you I entrust my life.
    9) Rescue me from my enemies, LORD, for I hide myself in you. 10) Teach me to do your will, for you are my God; may your good Spirit lead me on level ground. 11) For your name’s sake, LORD, preserve my life; in your righteousness, bring me out of trouble.

    This passage is so beautiful! It’s easily a prayer written like poem. My thoughts for now…

    32 degrees F and raining in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,

  85. Beloved says:

    Yes I do love the Psalms and read them daily. The writers understand my heart, better than I do sometimes even, but they always point to Gods love grace and mercy which I need more than silver gold wisdom honor ANYTHING.

    After a long conversation with Him just now I ask for prayer for the contempt I have for the church and the body of Christ. I have been wounded so many times to where I have no trust at all for those who are within the church. It’s all me, and I know it. I’m guarded and find it hard to relax around others. Since confessing my sins this morning I can feel a shaking going on inside. God is very near, inside of me, changing me to do His will. I love Him sooo much, He’s all I’ve had since childhood. Thank you friends, I trust you for your prayers.

  86. Beloved says:

    Psalm34 KJV
    Taste and See the Lord is Good

    (1 Samuel 21:10-15; Psalm 52:1-9; Psalm 56:1-13)

    1{A Psalm of David, when he changed his behaviour before Abimelech; who drove him away, and he departed.}

  87. Beloved says:

    Thinking about tunes..

    At one time I put psalms to music, suited for guitar and always in a minor key, not sure why but I felt they were from the LORD at the time. (When I had courage enough to sing alone in church, many years ago.) I wrote some of my own but my favorite were the psalms, then and now. I wonder what key the troubadours used? We’ll know when we get to heaven.

    “Come ye children, hearken unto Me I will teach you the fear of the LORD. Depart from evil and do good, seek peace and pursue it.”

  88. jeff1 says:

    Will your anchor hold in the storms of life

    Will your anchor hold in the storms of life,
    When the clouds unfold their wings of strife?
    When the strong tides lift, and the cables strain,
    Will your anchor drift or firm remain?

    We have an anchor that keeps the soul
    Steadfast and sure while the billows roll,
    Fastened to the Rock which cannot move,
    Grounded firm and deep in the Savior’s love.

    It is safely moored, ’twill the storm withstand,
    For ’tis well secured by the Savior’s hand;
    And the cables passed from His heart to mine,
    Can defy the blast, through strength divine.

    It will firmly hold in the straits of fear,
    When the breakers have told the reef is near;
    Though the tempest rave and the wild winds blow,
    Not an angry wave shall our bark o’erflow.

    It will surely hold in the floods of death,
    When the waters cold chill our latest breath;
    On the rising tide it can never fail,
    While our hopes abide within the veil.

  89. Beloved says:

    So, on one hand, we get a picture of how our Creator looks at the whole and totality of us. Then we get another picture of how our rearrangement of everything—…is working for us.

    I’ve been thinking about this all day, about how even Christians like myself can try to recreate Eden, working hard for YEARS to change the world -or at least my little corner of the world- only to discover I’ve been misled by mine and even seasoned believers ideas of what Eden once looked like.

    My day of remorse over my conviction of sin culminated in a timely phone message from someone I trusted long ago for many years, a seasoned ‘older woman’ who “mentored” me through many difficult seasons of life, until I realized how she was training me to be a performer to make her look good, and not a Christ follower, and eventually I broke off contact.

    The phone message today brought up all kinds of bad memories, but at the same time, God knew I could finally handle it. I can give her the same grace and mercy I have been given, and be at peace. Another layer of contempt is resolved, praise God. Thank you all for your prayers. God loves us more than we can even think or imagine. He’s sooo good!

  90. Beloved says:

    In Times Like These
    (Ruth Caye Jones – Mother Jones)

    In times like these, we need a Savior
    In times like these, we need an anchor
    Be very sure, be very sure
    Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock

    This Rock is Jesus, Yes, He’s the one
    This Rock is Jesus, The only One
    Be very sure, be very sure
    Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock

    In times like these oh be not idle
    In times like these we need the bible
    Be very sure, be very sure
    Your anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock

    That Rock is Jesus, Yes, He’s the one
    That Rock is Jesus, The only One
    Be very sure, oh you’ve gotta be sure
    That your anchor holds, and it grips the Solid Rock
    Your anchor it holds, and it grips the Solid Rock

    In times like these, I have a Savior
    In times like these, I have an anchor
    I’m very sure, I’m very sure
    My anchor holds and grips the Solid Rock

    That Rock is Jesus, Yes, He’s the one
    That Rock is Jesus, The only One
    Be very sure, oh you’ve gotta be sure
    That your anchor it holds, and it grips the Solid Rock.

  91. foreverblessed says:

    Be sure that your Anchor is Jesus!
    Only when we have seen the bottom, do we see our Saviour!
    In the Psalms the writer often despairs of life
    ” How long will You forget me, Lord?” Psalm 13:1,
    but always comes to the conclusion:
    And yet ends in hope:
    “But I trust in Your unfailing love” Psalm 13:5

    My friend who has this terrible disease, doesn’t ask God:
    Why me?

    She says, now is the time I have this ordeal, but all of us get an ordeal. No-one has no ordeal.

    The beginning of this year I have this Bible verse in my head:

    “We were under great pressure, far beyond our ability to endure,
    so that we despaired even of life.
    Indeed, in our hearts we felt the sentence of death…”

    But always comes the reason:
    “…But this happened that we might not rely on ourselves but on God,
    Who raises the dead!”
    2 Cor 1:8-9

    Wow, this message of Resurrection of the dead, is so powerful, the Hope, that was arising on the disciples, when Jesus was Alive! The start of the Church, led by the Holy Spirit,
    Based on Jesus, who died on the Cross, and raised to life!

    We will live!

    But thanks be to God who always leads us in triumphal procession in Christ…
    2 Cor 2:14

  92. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Beloved: I have been praying for you!
    But remember, thoughts enter our head, do not feel guilty that they do, but grab these thoughts, hold them to the Light, that is Jesus, and throw them out!

    We have talked about Joyce Meyers example, the battlefield of the mind!.

    I was thinking about a Christian friend, who had been abused, she asked God to take away these thoughts. She said: when God heals me, these thoughts won’t come anymore…

    I was trying to tell her that she herself was involved in the process:
    When these thoughts come: throw them out, in Jesus’ name.

    But she would sit down in despair that the negative thoughts had come.
    I kept praying for her.
    20 years now, but slowly she is getting it, and getting stronger with her feet on the Rock, who is Jesus.

  93. foreverblessed says:

    … and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ
    2 Cor 10:5

  94. foreverblessed says:

    …And above all, fill our thoughts of worship of Jesus.
    The Light, that drives away the darkness.

    Only, we have to persist in praise,as the process of being filled with Jesus is a slow process…

  95. poohpity says:

    Can Jesus fill us if we aren’t to busy having our eyes on others to criticize or critique their Christianity and not criticize or critique our own Christianity? Isn’t that a worldly perspective looking at others and forgetting or never looking at what we have seen in our own life and the things we do not do that God did give us to do?

    James 1: Be doers of the word, and not hearers only. Otherwise, you are deceiving yourselves. 23For anyone who hears the word but does not carry it out is like a man who looks at his face in a mirror, 24and after observing himself goes away and immediately forgets what he looks like.

    When one has faithfully carried out the very good that God has given us to do in His word for example; sharing the good news, feeding the hungry, giving clothes to the naked, sheltering the homeless, visiting those in prison, giving water to the thirsty, visiting the sick, taking care of the widows and orphans, I bet one will stop being critical or critiquing the Christianity of others so quickly.

    Being filled with the Spirit one tends to look out for needs of others and let God work in their lives to change what needs to be changed because last time I looked it is us humans, all, that need to have our hearts and minds changed but only God can do that well unless one thinks they are god and can fix people so they advise people all the time what they need to do.

  96. jeff1 says:

    When I was hating my enemies they did not even know it because they were a group of terrorists whose faces were unknown to me but it was I who ended up distant from God as I was hiding from Him knowing my hatred was wrong.

    My dad was not hating them and I never understood how he did not hate them as I did for they were maiming and killing his countrymen too.

    I could not understand how he could vote ‘Yes’ for the ‘Good Friday’ agreement knowing that they would be pardoned and given their freedom back when their victims most of them young who had not had a chance to lead their lives where lying in their graves.

    My dad never tried to explain himself or his reasons and I wouldn’t have understood anyway because he was way beyond me in intelligence or so I thought but the truth was that he was trusting God and not on his own beliefs or understanding.

    He did what he believed was right in God’s eyes irrespective of opinions at the time and I can see now how right he was because he looked for solutions rather than put up barriers which was digging both sides deeper and deeper into trenches that they would not be able to get out of.

    When I trust God with the outcome I break down walls of destruction that have been fortified over the years and make way for change that gives hope for to a younger generation who need to see it.

    In effect it takes us out of a tit for tat mentality that was getting no one anywhere other than into hell itself.

    I have told you that my dad’s strength was his stability of mind and that’s why he was ahead of his contempories in seeing the need for changing the direction of this country if there was to be any hope for the future generations.

    He seen the bigger picture because he knew whom to follow while the rest of us seen what we wanted to see because prejudice from whatever side blinds us to God’s ways.

    My dad taught me one truth that no one else taught me and that is that God’s ways are higher than mine and so without Him I can do nothing.

    Lead us, heavenly Father, lead us

    1 Lead us, heavenly Father, lead us
    o’er the world’s tempestuous sea;
    guard us, guide us, keep us, feed us,
    for we have no help but thee;
    yet possessing every blessing,
    if our God our Father be.

    2 Saviour, breathe forgiveness o’er us:
    all our weakness thou dost know;
    thou didst tread this earth before us,
    thou didst feel its keenest woe;
    lone and dreary, faint and weary,
    through the desert thou didst go.

    3 Spirit of our God, descending,
    fill our hearts with heavenly joy,
    love with every passion blending,
    pleasure that can never cloy:
    thus provided, pardoned, guided,
    nothing can our peace destroy.

  97. Beloved says:

    Thank you gals I know all about the battlefield the mind is and about the downfalls of camparing. I do appreciate your prayers, as I said earlier. I do feel more relaxed today. Jesus is so good and faithful, many times over He has forgiven me and replaced my anxieties with love joy peace patience kindness etc. Which is why I will stay with Him until I leave terra firma!

    Beautiful day today as its supposed to get into the 30’s F but cloudy as opposed to a few days of below zero temps and sunny! That’s how it seems to here in the winter. I really had a difficult time removing 8 inches of snow from my old SUV the other day. Riding the bus is starting to look appealing. Or a much smaller vehicle! I will see what the LORD has in mind this year.

    Forever my friend has accepted that surgery is not an option and is going for more chemo next week if she has strength, but commented she’s never prayed so much in her whole life! Hoping she will relinquish all to Him.

  98. Beloved says:

    Viv I know all about hate. I loved my father yet hated the things he did to me and my siblings. It’s a miracle my brothers didn’t turn out like him and end up in prison. I believe it was our LORD that turned them around as I began sharing the gospel with them when I was saved and all 3 and my sister accepted Christ as savior, even marrying Christian spouses! God had His hands on my family before I even understood what was happening behind the scenes, so to speak. Gods view is so much better, for eternity rides with Him on wings like an eagles! High lofty and magnificent in splendor, far beyond what eyes can see and ears can hear, yet, He was there, all the time; from my very first recollections as a helpless child until now, in my old age. He is faithful!

  99. foreverblessed says:

    Gods view is so much better, for eternity rides with Him on wings like an eagles! High lofty and magnificent in splendor, far beyond what eyes can see and ears can hear, yet, He was there, all the time;

    That was awesome!
    He is like that to all of us!
    The blood of Christ over us.
    Over Beloved, over Jeff, over Pooh, over me…
    Over all of us
    We are redeemed by His blood, no evil can harm us.
    We are His!

  100. foreverblessed says:

    What good news that your friend is praying! Didn’t yousay that she was calling away from the faith?
    Then this is great news!

    My friend did still not get her second chemo. Because her blood plates are still too low, They won’t go up. She is being investigated now why that is so.
    A punction of the bone marrow she had on old year’sday, that’s how we call Dec 31.
    She tries to remain calm in Jesus. It is easy to say you have to, but it needs the grace of God to be able to do so:
    A peace that decents from heaven, given to us, because of Jesus!

  101. Beloved says:

    Yes the grace of God is what gets anyone through tough times. My once best friend is still angry with me for unwittingly challenging her faith over a year ago, but I think really it’s God she’s been mad at, so now in her weakening state she’s talking to Him more, not just asking for ‘things’. Her love of money could ruin her as scripture says but I believe Gods grace is greater than any evil. I never used to see it this way. Grace greater than ALL OUR SIN!? Astounding! Thank you Jesus :-)

  102. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, isn’t that astounding?
    I was reading in the Psalms, what Regina adviced, I had made this resolution a few years ago, and have studied many Psalms, I do not just read, but study scripture. The study of Spurgeon onze Psalms helped me very much. But the last couple of years the Biblehub was a great help.
    -The Treasury of David-
    From Spurgeon.

    This morning I was reading Psalm 69, and I had written notes, that this was about Jesus.
    “Picture Jesus in Ghetsemane”

    Then I read v5, ” my guilt is not hidden from you”
    That could not be about Jesus…
    But some comments added Psalm 40:12 to Psalm 69:5.

    That Jesus says: My sins….
    He so took up our sins that He called them His own.

    Isn’t that Grace?

    He took them up, and cast them away, as far as the east is from the west,
    Or in the Ocean…

    And His victory is ours, everything He did is ours for asking:
    What a Grace!

  103. Beloved says:

    Forever I have to agree with this writer, that Jesus was sinless and never confessed to sinning. But He was a ‘sinner’ only in the eyes of the law. I was probably David confessing his sin.

  104. Beloved says:

    From surgeons Treasury of David:
    Verse 5. My sins are not hid from thee. The sins of those for whom Christ died, by being imputed to him, no doubt became his in the eyes of the law, in such a sense as to make him answerable for them. But the Scriptures, be it observed, while they speak of him as “wounded for our transgressions, and bruised for our iniquities,” and as “bearing our sins in his own body on the tree,” as if afraid to use any forms of expression which would even seem to derogate from his immaculate purity, never speak of the sins of those for whom he died as his own sins. James Anderson’s Note to Calvin in loc

    But maybe I misunderstood you?

  105. Beloved says:

    Isn’t it something how the laments of the prophets and also David seem almost as though they are, for want of a better word, ‘channeling’ at times the Holy Spirit, sharing future prophecies of Jesus, the Messiah coming to save us from our sins!

  106. Beloved says:

    I guess what I’m trying to say Forever is I have never read anywhere that Jesus “called them His own”. That would have taken away His divinity, leaving us with a good man to follow.

  107. Beloved says:

    Channeling,ugh. Being “filled with the Holy Spirit” is more accurately applied.

  108. poohpity says:

    1 Peter 2:24 NLT; Isaiah 53:4,5; Heb 9:28;

  109. poohpity says:

    The very foundations of our faith, the milk or baby food of the Gospel.

  110. Beloved says:

    Mathew Henry commentary on 2 Corinthians 5:17 explains more in detail which I find very helpful.
    “Christ knew no sin. He was made Sin; not a sinner, but Sin, a Sin-offering, a Sacrifice for sin. The end and design of all this was, that we might be made the righteousness of God in him, might be justified freely by the grace of God through the redemption which is in Christ Jesus. Can any lose, labour, or suffer too much for Him, who gave his beloved Son to be the Sacrifice for their sins, that they might be made the righteousness of God in him?”

  111. Beloved says:

    Oops that’s 2 Corinthians 5:21, not 17.

  112. street says:

    So, on one hand, we get a picture of how our Creator looks at the whole and totality of us. Then we get another picture of how our rearrangement of everything— based on how we see things, what we want, and how feel about ourselves— is working for us.

    24 Now again the anger of the Lord burned against Israel, and it incited David against them to say, “Go, number Israel and Judah.” 2 The king said to Joab the commander of the army who was with him, “Go about now through all the tribes of Israel, from Dan to Beersheba, and [a]register the people, that I may know the number of the people.” 3 But Joab said to the king, “Now may the Lord your God add to the people a hundred times as many as they are, while the eyes of my lord the king still see; but why does my lord the king delight in this thing?”

  113. street says:

    Ephesians 3:16 “that He would Grant you, according to the riches of his glory, to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in the inner man, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith; and that you being rooted and grounded in love, may be able to comprehend with all the saints what is the breadth and length and height and depth and to know the love of Christ which surpasses knowledge that you may be filled up to all fullness of God.”

  114. street says:

    Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

  115. street says:

    being perfect like your Father in heaven. what is His Character like? since we are assaulted daily and sometimes rightfully so? what kind of darkness obscures the Glory of God? thinking of what mart said about how – based on how we see things, what we want, and how feel about ourselves— is working for us. have to admit mart looks like new ground to cover.

  116. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, do you think that Jesus did not notice when the sins of the world were layed on Him?

    And the chapter of 2 Cor 5:16-21
    talks about world view:
    So from now on we regard no-one from a worldly point of view…

    That is a great Word!

  117. poohpity says:

    street, in your Jan 3rd 9:54pm comment you failed to include a very important part of that scripture, in other words you rearranged it to suit yourself. The important part that was left out is the very essence of what Jesus was saying.

    Matt 5: 43 “You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ 44 But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, 45 that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. 46 If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47 And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? 48 Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.

    The perfection Jesus was speaking of was loving even one’s enemies. People still influenced by worldly thinking only love those who return that love but the spiritual minded love those who do not return it. It is an easy tell what lies within our own hearts how we feel and treat our enemies.

  118. poohpity says:

    Col 1: 19 For God in all his fullness
    was pleased to live in Christ,
    and through him God reconciled
    everything to himself.
    He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth
    by means of Christ’s blood on the cross.

    21 This includes you who were once far away from God. You were his enemies, separated from him by your evil thoughts and actions. 22 Yet now he has reconciled you to himself through the death of Christ in his physical body. As a result, he has brought you into his own presence, and you are holy and blameless as you stand before him without a single fault.


    Romans 5: And since we have been made right in God’s sight by the blood of Christ, he will certainly save us from God’s condemnation. 10 For since our friendship with God was restored by the death of his Son while we were still his enemies, we will certainly be saved through the life of his Son. 11 So now we can rejoice in our wonderful new relationship with God because our Lord Jesus Christ has made us friends of God.

  119. poohpity says:

    We can either live like one who is loved beyond measure and thus show that to others(spiritual minded) or be as the world thinks to love only those who are in our group or love us in return.

    Worldly thinking is just another way of saying following our sinful nature which there is a constant battle within us to follow what comes easy and using self control which is provided by God. If one really wants to know the difference between our sinful nature and what living in the Spirits look like read Galatians 5 if anyone actually cares to find out.

  120. poohpity says:

    It is easy to think as the world does because we are surrounded by it everyday but to learn to think like God would have us to we have to learn that and one can learn that by maybe just reading this year the words of Jesus. Some bibles have His words in red but others don’t and watch how one’s mind can be transformed into a new way of thinking and acting on those thoughts. Romans 12:2

  121. poohpity says:

    One has to be retrained or rearranged from “World Views” to looking at life through the eyes, heart and mind of God.

  122. Beloved says:

    Good morning, here, forever!

    To answer your question, I think of Jesus words on the cross, My God, why have You forsaken me?

  123. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    So true, pooh, re: what you said in your last post this morning about “world views”… I believe that in order for a person to “look at life through the eyes, heart and mind of God” he/she would need to be *born again* or transformed by the renewing of their mind. Romans 12:2 comes to mind. When a person is born again, they become a new creation in Christ Jesus (2 Corinthians 5:17 comes to mind). The “old life”, old way of thinking and doing passes away, and the “new life” new way of thinking and doing (now that the Holy Spirit is dwelling inside of the person) begins! And the more we spend time reading the Bible and in prayer, the more our thoughts get in alignment with God’s way of thinking. I believe that having the mind of God—submitting our will to His will, and giving Him full authority over our lives—is what truly changes a person’s world view. My thoughts for now…

    37 degrees F in my neck of the woods… No rain today.

    Love to all,

  124. jeff1 says:

    Its all very well to say love your enemies but its quite another to do it in the midst of persecution.

    I need to be honest with God and I failed to love my enemies wheras my dad and many like him whose minds were on God did not fail and made a way for a change from the same old tit for tat mindset.

    It takes a person to know God and my dad knew God and I did not.

    I have hindsight but my dad did not he did what was right in the midst of hatred and violence and I can tell you there where few thought like him.

    It is a gift from God as my father was no Bible scholar but he believed God.

    God knows His children He put them on this earth and He knows where to find them.

  125. poohpity says:

    Loving an enemy is not confusing it with the feelings of love(passion) but if they have needs to do good to them that is showing love. If one of your so called enemies came to your door and was thirsty would you not give the person a drink or something to eat if hungry? Do you know God now?

  126. poohpity says:

    Then all you are doing is giving away what God has given you. He showed you grace so to withhold it from others is the same as spitting in the face of what Jesus did for you because at one time you were His enemy as well.

  127. Beloved says:

    Viv loving enemies is something I had to learn, but I had the help of the Holy Spirit who I first heard the words, “love that enemy” from when part of a local child protection team. Do I do it perfectly? NO, but knowing it’s Gods will, therefore the BEST, is what moved me toward loving obedience. It does cause me great anguish sometimes to be dismissively obedient to God will. “Oh no, You want me to love her/him?” I groan sometimes. It’s hard, I’m not God, not even close, yet He promised to help so I wait and trust Him for the grace to do the impossible. And when it comes, finally, OHHH it’s so sweet! Like molten chocolate on chocolate cake, with a cherry on top! “It is finished! ” Most beautiful words of all!

  128. Beloved says:

    Submissively not dismissibly.

  129. poohpity says:

    Hatred corrodes minds and hearts. It is like drinking poison and expecting someone else to die.

  130. Beloved says:

    Yeah, all sin is corrosive and poisonous, but thank God for Jesus Christ Who forgives all our sin!

  131. Beloved says:

    I’m thinking that any “worldview” that excludes Jesus Messiah is doomed to self-destruct.

  132. jeff1 says:

    Until you have lived with violence as in bombs, bullets and intimidation for the biggest part of your life you won’t understand nor would I expect anyone to and why I have made my peace with God who does understand.

    I no longer hate my enemies but I cannot love them either because I cannot love people who believe violence or threats of violence is acceptable in order to get their way when that is contrary to God’s way.

    It is in God’s hands because because He sees their hearts and knows why we cannot trust them as they make no bones about their hatred.

    I am learning to trust God rather than people because people are not trustworthy and I have learned that the hard way for it was my friend who said I was too gullible for my own good and if that’s one thing I have learned in this world it’s that people will take advantage of that.

    poohpity says:
    January 4, 2019 at 9:49 am

    Then all you are doing is giving away what God has given you. He showed you grace so to withhold it from others is the same as spitting in the face of what Jesus did for you because at one time you were His enemy as well.

    I struggle in my mind with my demons, Pooh, so there is punishment, you could say the Roman Catholic’s are right there is such a place as purgatory to my way of thinking anyway.

  133. Beloved says:

    Viv scripture says those who have believed and trusted in Christ are not under condemnation so no purgatory is necessary, Romans 8:1-4 Trust what scripture says, not people. We are all assaulted by satan, that’s a given, but it is not a sin to suffer under assaults, gullible or not!

  134. Beloved says:

    Jesus ministry was to the jews and everything He said was directed toward teaching them that the Messiah was greater than the Laws they followed in God’s name. If you cannot forgive an enemy ask God to help you, He’s that real and personal! He will help you and not criticize or condemn you for your failures. I know this first hand. He would never say you are spitting in My face, after all I’ve done for you, how dare you!!! No, He’s kind gentle patient and loving and wants us to come to Him with our problems. He will never shame you, as some and even we do to ourselves from time to time. Gods timeline is different from ours, that worldview thing we’ve been discussing here. I know that one day Viv you will wake up and say, Surely Jesus has been here, I’m free!!! I pray He comes quickly.

  135. Beloved says:

    Viv mental illness is not a punishment! It’s an affliction. Jesus helps the afflicted as well as the clear minded. ( though we all have our moments, I think)

  136. foreverblessed says:

    Morning Spurgeon
    “Grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.” — 2Pe_3:18
    “Grow in grace”-not in one grace only, but in all grace. Grow in that root-grace, faith. Believe the promises more firmly than you have done. Let faith increase in fulness, constancy, simplicity. Grow also in love. Ask that your love may become extended, more intense, more practical, influencing every thought, word, and deed. Grow likewise in humility. Seek to lie very low, and know more of your own nothingness. As you grow downward in humility, seek also to grow upward -having nearer approaches to God in prayer and more intimate fellowship with Jesus. May God the Holy Spirit enable you to “grow in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour.” He who grows not in the knowledge of Jesus, refuses to be blessed. To know him is “life eternal,” and to advance in the knowledge of him is to increase in happiness. He who does not long to know more of Christ, knows nothing of him yet. Whoever hath sipped this wine will thirst for more, for although Christ doth satisfy, yet it is such a satisfaction, that the appetite is not cloyed, but whetted. If you know the love of Jesus-as the hart panteth for the water-brooks, so will you pant after deeper draughts of his love. If you do not desire to know him better, then you love him not, for love always cries, “Nearer, nearer.” Absence from Christ is hell; but the presence of Jesus is heaven. Rest not then content without an increasing acquaintance with Jesus. Seek to know more of him in his divine nature, in his human relationship, in his finished work, in his death, in his resurrection, in his present glorious intercession, and in his future royal advent. Abide hard by the Cross, and search the mystery of his wounds. An increase of love to Jesus, and a more perfect apprehension of his love to us is one of the best tests of growth in grace.

    Someone posted this on Utmost, I wanted to go to bed, but read this. It is so good, I thought to share it with you.
    Knowing Jesus better should be part of our world view.

  137. jeff1 says:

    I love your view of God, Beloved, its so full of what I would want God to be like.

    I don’t have a clear view of God, Beloved, He changes with my mind and my troubles of the mind have been inherited as well as being afflicted.

    For me God is complex and I cannot get my head around that as I am too simplistic in reality.

    I love that God forgives because I am so in need of forgiveness and that is the simple truth for me.

    That God doesn’t change helps me see that it is I who changes God as I perceive Him and not as He really is.

    There is comfort in that for someone whose mind can be all over the place.

    I believe God loves more than I can understand because I haven’t known that much love in my life and perhaps why I see my need of God much greater than I see His need of me.

  138. jeff1 says:

    How Deep the Father’s Love for Us

    How deep the Father’s love for us
    How vast beyond all measure
    That He should give His only Son
    To make a wretch His treasure

    How great the pain of searing loss
    The Father turns His face away
    As wounds which mar the Chosen One
    Bring many sons to glory

    Behold the man upon a cross
    My sin upon His shoulders
    Ashamed, I hear my mocking voice
    Call out among the scoffers

    It was my sin that held Him there
    Until it was accomplished
    His dying breath has brought me life
    I know that it is finished

    I will not boast in anything
    No gifts, no power, no wisdom
    But I will boast in Jesus Christ
    His death and resurrection

    Why should I gain from His reward?
    I cannot give an answer
    But this I know with all my heart
    His wounds have paid my ransom

    Why should I gain from His reward?
    I cannot give an answer
    But this I know with all my heart
    His wounds have paid my ransom

  139. Beloved says:

    Beautiful Forever, thanks for sharing it here.

  140. Beloved says:

    Viv I love that song.

  141. Beloved says:

    It’s a great one to meditate on, saying each line very slowly and asking God to speak to you through it.

  142. poohpity says:

    Isn’t there a stipulation to God’s forgiveness, what is that stipulation?

  143. Beloved says:

    36 “Therefore let all Israel be assured of this: God has made this Jesus, whom you crucified, both Lord and Messiah.”

    37 When the people heard this, they were cut to the heart and said to Peter and the other apostles, “Brothers, what shall we do?”

    38 Peter replied, “Repent and be baptized, every one of you, in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins. And you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit. 39 The promise is for you and your children and for all who are far off—for all whom the Lord our God will call.”

  144. Beloved says:

    On a hill far away stood an old rugged cross
    The emblem of suffering and shame
    And I love that old cross where the dearest and best
    For a world of lost sinners was slain
    So I’ll cherish the old rugged cross
    Till my trophies at last I lay down
    And I will cling to the old rugged cross
    And exchange it some day for a crown
    To the old rugged cross I will ever be true
    It’s shame and reproach gladly bear
    Then he’ll call me someday to my home far away
    Where his glory forever I’ll share
    And I’ll cherish the old rugged cross
    Till my trophies at last I lay down
    And I will cling to the old rugged cross
    And exchange it some day for a crown
    I will cling to the old rugged cross
    And exchange it some day for a crown

  145. poohpity says:

    Thinking from a worldly view forgiving people who wronged us or are our enemies is just fine but it makes people sick inside not to and if God wants the best for us and in a Spiritual view it is taught, “Get rid of all bitterness, rage and anger, outcry and slander, along with every form of malice. Be kind and tender-hearted to one another, forgiving each other just as in Christ God forgave you.” The choice is ours whether we want to live like the world/flesh or like Jesus.

    Jesus taught His ways which are topsy-turvy from the world/flesh in Matt 5:7, 6:14; Mark 11:25; Luke 5:37. Then Paul who used to stone, kill and imprison believers until his encounter with Jesus and received His forgiveness for the horrible things he did then taught Col 3:13. We give out what we have received and are grateful for.

    It seems when one has received the Love of Christ we look at many things or people differently. Then one can look at our enemies and understand that Christ died for them just like He did for me and the things I have done being forgiven by His grace. Talk about breaking the chains of the people who have a hold on us when we forgive, we are set free.

  146. poohpity says:

    Ooops that was Luke 6:37 but the other one works too.

  147. poohpity says:

    Oh, holy night! The stars are brightly shining
    It is the night of the dear Savior’s birth
    Long lay the world in sin and error pining
    Till He appeared and the soul felt its worth
    A thrill of hope the weary world rejoices
    For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn

    Fall on your knees! Oh, hear the angel voices
    Oh, night divine
    Oh, night when Christ was born

    Truly He taught us to love one another
    His law is love and His gospel is peace
    Chains shall He break for the slave is our brother
    And in His name, all oppression shall cease
    Sweet hymns of joy in grateful chorus raise we
    Let all within us praise His holy name

    Christ is the Lord! Oh, praise His Name forever
    His power and glory evermore proclaim
    Oh, night divine, oh, night when Christ was born

    Fall on your knees! Oh, hear the angel voices
    Oh, night divine
    Oh, night when Christ was born
    Oh, night divine, oh, night when Christ was born

    Christ is the Lord! Oh, praise His Name forever
    His power and glory evermore proclaim
    Oh, night divine, oh, night when Christ was born

  148. bubbles says:

    That lovely carol is full of worship. So elegant and beautiful.

  149. cbrown says:

    Thank you all for your recent comments. They are very upifting.Chris

  150. Beloved says:

    “Talk about breaking the chains of the people who have a hold on us when we forgive, we are set free.”

    so true.

  151. Beloved says:

    Then we get another picture of how our rearrangement of everything— based on how we see things, what we want, and how feel about ourselves— is working for us.

    Selfishness, lust and pride; these ways of the world also tend to dominate the lives of believers. Nope, doesn’t work at all. Not a very uplifting thought but we do need to take an honest look at ourselves from time to time. “All our works are as filthy rags” reminds me of the soldiers casting lots for Jesus’ bloody filthy robe. We too must discard our own clothing in order to follow Him. Cloth of selfishness, lust and pride must be dropped daily to put on Christ. I never trust that the good I did yesterday will carry over to today. However, because His mercies are new EVERY morning I have a new day to decide, will I walk in His love, grace and mercy? Or, will I follow the world’s ways.

  152. poohpity says:

    Hopefully it is the life of Christ living in us that will dominate our lives and not the ways of the world. And when we see that it is the world creeping in, we confess it and ask the Lord for His help to overcome the ways of the world. Nothing we do good for the Lord is filthy rags, it shows who has our hearts and mind.

    Isaiah was saying that when we display the things we do to get attention and show our own righteousness it is as filthy rags. Isaiah 64:6 NLT; Matt 6:1-2 NLT

  153. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, you make it sound as if people want to hold on to hatred but Northern Ireland is stuck in the past and both sides are tribal in their thinking which makes it hard to put the past where it belongs.

    I am finding that it is the younger generation who are thinking differently as it was the older (as in my age group) who suffered during the troubles i.e. it is us who have the memories of the atrocities, not to mention how many lost loved ones or where physically or mentally maimed and have spent years trying to come to terms with their loss.

    Hurt people find it hard to trust again especially when those who hurt you say they were justified in doing so, in truth people do not want to go on hating but would rather forget the atrocities but the mind just doesn’t switch of because you want it too and we have a way of remembering the evil done to us as well as the good.

    We are as human as our enemies and as in need of forgiveness, love and understanding as they are and God sees that too so He understands why people need time to move on because as we watch our children grow up it revives our hope in the future and give us a new purpose for life.

    Reconciliation is a slow process but when we realise that with it comes a chance to stop the past influencing the future we see that it is in our children’s interest and I believe that most right thinking people will want that for their children.

  154. Beloved says:

    Viv I agree, sometimes it takes many years to come to terms with loss. Bible verses don’t cause instant change. That’s Gods work and His timing, so knowing what scripture says is a guideline for where God wants us to be in our thinking, but it is by His grace we change. I ask for that grace daily, grace to change and grace to live with those things He decided to leave me to struggle with. Oh He’s so good!!! Trusting for His perfect will for my life, done in His time!

  155. Beloved says:

    As for focusing on the future and what’s best for our children, I prefer to focus on Christs return, and preparing my children for that. One never knows what is going to happen in the world from one day to the next. Jesus said there would be wars and rumors of wars.Matt 24:5-8NIV
    “Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am the Christ,’ and will deceive many. You will hear of wars and rumors of wars, but see to it that you are not alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be famines and earthquakes in various places. All these are the beginning of birth pains. “

  156. poohpity says:

    Almost every emotion we have is a choice Viv. At the very moment something happens it stimulates an emotional reaction but to hang on to the emotion is self inflicted for longer periods of time. We can replace that emotion with something else or we can nurse it for long periods of time to where it is a habit.

    Not trusting someone does not mean we have to hate them, it just means we have grown to learn that trust is something to be earned. Even with God trust in Him is developed over a period of time that is how faith grows while it is being tested, that does not seem to upset Him at all.

    How long ago did the problems with Ireland happen? Many years I thought about 30 plenty of time to work though the emotion unless it is something that people want to needlessly hang on to, to keep the anger going and going. The longer people hang on to that kind of stuff they sicker they get then depression sets in and only with the help of medication and counseling can they work through something that is so stuck in their minds, engraved.

  157. jeff1 says:

    It is 20 years since the Peace Agreement but Politicians have been unable to agree on how to govern since 2017 showing how difficult it is to progress here.

    Personally I am weary of it all as the problems started when I was 15 and I am 64 so I focus on my faith and my community and leave the politics in the murky world were it belongs.

    Trust as you say has to be earned and I am afraid our politicians failed big time when it comes to honesty and clarity and you can fool the people some of the time but you cannot fool them all of the time.

    I think most people here have lost any confidence in them because they feel they are more concerned with their own agendas then they are the people or the country and that is the sad truth I am afraid.

  158. poohpity says:

    I am very involved with politics here rather more with governing. There are very few politicians I trust because I check out most everything they say and compare it to facts and most often what the media says and what the facts are seem to be miles apart. They make a lot of noise and make many promises but seem to never follow through. Or depending on who the current President is their views change, one day they vote for one thing then the next they lie and twist what is true repeatedly. But I do not let them determine my emotions, I write letters, call my representatives or Senators, send emails but more importantly I check out every little thing they say and compare it to what is actually happening. Most of them have no business holding the office they have been entrusted with, no knowledge of the things they vote for or the laws they make. They often do not serve any consequences for breaking the law and are not held accountable. But all that is because people vote for the letter(party) by their names and never check out their character, abilities or integrity so most are very uninformed voters and that is the fault of the American voters for not paying any attention and blindly trusting the letter by their names not who the person actually is or what they have accomplished in their lives. I have no confidence in most them at all nor the American people who vote and do not even know what our Constitution says nor do any research, they blindly follow a party. But I do trust God and know ultimately above our free will He is in charge and we know how it all ends up and it isn’t pretty.

  159. jeff1 says:

    I am surprised how many people don’t believe in God because if I didn’t have hope in God this world would be a lot more dismal.

    I think we do our best and God does the rest from what I see.

    It’s like a man I knew and he seemed a bit wacky by all accounts but he would come out with things that made you realise he was a lot wiser than those who thought he was crazy.

    I remember him saying that he knew this man who owned property and land and he was always worrying and talking about it to him and others. His response to the man was you are a caretaker here and nothing more so stop your fretting because your not taking it with you when you go.

    Isn’t that so as what we have is temporary and the sooner we get to seeing it that way the more content we will be in this world as most of man’s problems are territorial and yet there are no pockets in a shroud.

  160. jeff1 says:

    I was brought up to trust people in authority because they were there by the grace of God. I did trust them because I believed they knew better than me but now I am not so sure anymore.

    It’s not that I think I know better but that this world is much more complex than I realised and rather I see now that God knows better.

    The Prime Minister in the UK had the people vote on Brexit and I voted on what I knew which was that being in Europe wasn’t working out very well so we should get out.

    Do I think I know more than Government Ministers who have studied at Eaton and Cambridge and understand the deeper implications of Brexit, no I do not.

    Its just that I do not trust the Prime Minister who personally did not want Brexit and whose heart was never in it so she has accepted an unacceptable deal when there are other Government Ministers who I believe could do a better job.

    If there is one thing that we are all good at as I am sure God sees very well is that we are all good at passing the buck around.

    Yes, we all talk a good talk from what I see but if we hadn’t God coming cleaning up our messes then we might all see that we share the buck but it seems we are much more focused on sharing in God’s glory then we are in getting down to the basic truth.

    Northern Ireland didn’t get into the mess it is in without my contribution and its when I see I am responsible for the mess that I am ready to accept and praise God that it is He who gets me out of it.

    Pooh, you know your Bible and I do not and you say the end isn’t pretty but I say God isn’t finished with us yet.

  161. poohpity says:

    What I meant was that what people do to themselves isn’t pretty in the end but that is only the end of this world as we know it, not the beautiful place God has prepared for us in His Kingdom. It probably would have been better to clarify for those who do not know what God has shared with us in the bible about the everlasting place that has been prepared for us living in the presence of God with no more tears, pain or suffering.

  162. poohpity says:

    It would have been better to say what people do to themselves and others in this world. It would be nice if those who follow Christ would work at making this world a better place but sadly that is not true for some of those who profess His name and are a poor reflection of His love.

    As Jesus said, “You are the salt of the earth. But if the salt loses its savor, how can it be made salty again? It is no longer good for anything, except to be thrown out and trampled by men. You are the light of the world. A city on a hill cannot be hidden. Neither do people light a lamp and put it under a basket. Instead, they set it on a lampstand, and it gives light to everyone in the house.”

    That is something that everyone must look at about themselves whether they follow the ways of the world more closely than they follow the ways of God. Not in perfection nor lead anyone to believe they do but in a process of being transformed and doing good in the meantime.

  163. poohpity says:

    I know for me a very good place to start is not blaming the things that happened in the past on how I behave today and to start taking personal responsibility for my own actions rather than making excuses for them and looking at the faults and failures in others to take the focus away from mine.

  164. jeff1 says:

    I think the difficulty for this world is that they see God as having shared the Bible with His people and therefor Heaven is exclusive and not inclusive.

    They don’t feel part of that world and the reason I understand where they are coming from is that though I was raised to believe the Bible I wasn’t Biblicaly taught.

    The Bible speaks its own language and it is understood by a chosen few and this world isn’t privy to that understanding.

    To my way of thinking they are correct God has chosen whom will understand for reasons that only He knows.

    There is a veil as to whom great responsibility is given more is expected and so God calls His own to a purpose that only He knows.

    1. Stand up, stand up for Jesus,
    ye soldiers of the cross!
    Lift high his royal banner,
    it must not suffer loss.
    From victory unto victory
    his army he shall lead,
    till every foe is vanquished,
    and Christ is Lord indeed.

    2 Stand up, stand up for Jesus,
    the solemn watchword hear;
    if while ye sleep he suffers,
    away with shame and fear.
    Where’er ye meet with evil,
    within you or without,
    charge for the God of battles,
    and put the foe to rout.

    3 Stand up, stand up for Jesus,
    stand in his strength alone;
    the arm of flesh will fail you,
    ye dare not trust your own.
    Put on the gospel armour,
    each piece put on with prayer;
    when duty calls or danger
    be never wanting there.

    4 Stand up, stand up for Jesus,
    the strife will not be long;
    this day the noise of battle,
    the next the victor’s song.
    To him that overcometh
    a crown of life shall be;
    he with the King of glory
    shall reign eternally.

  165. poohpity says:

    The Lord opens the heart and minds of ANYONE who wants to read the bible. It is not hard to understand at all. People who have not read the bible say things like, it is hard to understand, it contradicts itself, it is left to interpretation and none of that is true at all. Yes translations that are in 17th century english are hard to understand because that is not the way we speak today but there are many easy to read translations, there are even bibles that one can get that read scripture to you. It is all just manufactured reason not to read it but God puts it in the heart of those who love Him a desire get to know Him better and the bible is one such tool.

  166. poohpity says:

    I often wonder what stops people from being honest about not having any desire to know God, His way or His will so they just do not want to read the bible rather than making excuses about it? Of course my curiosity often gets the best of me! Who do you think it is that causes people to turn away from God’s word? Could it be the only power that wants us to believe his lies and accusations? Eph 6:11-12 NLT

  167. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Street, how are you doing. I want you to know that I am deeply concerned about you!
    Ever since January 3 you haven’t commented anymore.
    May God fill up everything that is lacking in your heart. May God strengthen you, and make you full of His joy!

  168. jeff1 says:

    God can open my heart and has opened my heart to truths and I haven’t been reading from the Bible but my dad set me an example of trusting God and it worked very well for him.

    You are apt to criticise others for not reading God’s word but my dad was a doer of God’s word and so it is between God and His follower and not for you to make assumptions as your walk with God is likewise.

  169. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    Just want to share some thoughts with you… My Pastor said, “music is the cheapest way to redecorate a room.” It changes the mood in a house; it creates new auras of thought, and it moves the spirit.

  170. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    Off topic here, just want to share some thoughts with you…

    My Pastor said some thought provoking things in his sermon this morning. He said, “music is the cheapest way to redecorate a room.” It changes the mood in a house; it creates new auras of thought, and it moves the Holy Spirit. Sound has spirit and Holy Spirit works through sound. He referenced 1 Samuel 16:15-23… When the evil spirit that was tormenting Saul was quieted when David played his harp (the power of music quieted the evil spirit). He also made a quick reference to Acts 16:25-26… Paul and Silas were singing hymns to God; it caused an earthquake, and their prison doors were opened.

  171. Regina says:

    correction: Sound has spirit and the Holy Spirit works through music (sound).

  172. Beloved says:

    Up until the invention of the Gutenburg Press in the mid 1400’s the Scriptures were mostly available to a select few, yet the church of Christ grew by hearing the word preached. We are privileged to have access to many Bibles today at low cost to free, even online– Gods newest way of getting His truths out there. God has always had His ways. The Ethiopian eunuch was met on the road by someone who could explain the Scriptures to him, and he was saved and baptised the same day! Putting God in our boxes never works. He has so many ways up His sleeve because He is God, and we certainly are not!

  173. Beloved says:

    Regina I agree with you about the grace of music God has given us. Thinking how He also gave us songbirds to grace with their heavenly music!

  174. poohpity says:

    Lol I never criticize anyone for not reading the bible!! Second how can one be a doer of the word if they do not know what that word is? It is God who has appointed His followers to read His word and put it in their hearts since it was given to Moses, it is not something that just started in the last few hundred years it was started even before when the Kings were over Israel it started with Moses and I would think even through the prophets. It is nothing new it is from old but I guess if one has not read the bible they would not know that.

    Viv, you may put me down for pointing people to read the scripture for themselves but that is what God has given me to do, so it does not matter to me what your opinion of it is. I do not know how one who has never read it really has so much to say about it, that to me is just someone talking out their ear. The bible is from God after all and it is Him that has kept it alive for thousands of years and those who do not read it are just missing out on so much in their relationship with God.

    Joyce, that maybe how we got the bible as it is now in the hands of so many but in times of old it was written on scrolls of papyrus and parchments separately and for the NT that was in the from of letters passed around to all the new churches but of course you knew that right? Isn’t that why they were called epistles or in other words letters to the churches?

    See this is the very difference in the views of the world compared to spiritual views. Satan is always anti-God and it seems he has the ability to push many believers around and keeping them from learning about our Lord God. Places where the bible is outlawed, those people can not wait to get just one piece of Scripture but in the west where it is plentiful people could care less, to many others things to fill one’s mind with.

  175. Beloved says:

    Yes, and yes.

  176. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    January 6, 2019 at 4:32 pm

    Lol I never criticize anyone for not reading the bible!! Second how can one be a doer of the word if they do not know what that word is?

    My dad was closer to God then you will ever be Pooh, he was humble, honest, fair minded, disciplined, caring, hard working and he couldn’t quote you chapter and verse of the Bible but he was a God fearing man who looked to God for guidance and it reflected in his life.

    Prayer and discipline goes a long way Pooh and he did both better than most people I know.

    No one is putting you down for telling people to read their Bible but you seem to believe that God doesn’t connect with other believers and I am telling you he does whether you choose to believe me or not.

    I don’t tell other people how to practise their faith and the reason people get God wrong is because of misinterpretation of scripture as much as it is not reading the Bible.

    God asks for our trust and obedience Pooh, but it is followers like you who make their own demands on God’s behalf and end up judging and playing God more than they behave Godly themselves.

  177. Beloved says:

    I’m so thankful for Spurgeon, his devotion tonight as usual lifts my spirits to Godly joy! Not so this blog most days when pooh is on her high horse. Which is most days. But God has His ways of lifting my soul out of the mire and carrying me on eagles wings to heights of glory!
    God is so good,
    God is so good,
    God is so good,
    He’s so good to me.

  178. foreverblessed says:

    “Do not be too ready to do, just be. I said, “Be ye therefore perfect” not “do” perfect things. Try and grasp this. Individual efforts avail nothing. It is only the work of the Universal Spirit – My Spirit – that counts.

    Dwell in thought on this, more and more, saints have taken a lifetime to grasp it.

    Be still, and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10

    From January 7, God calling

  179. poohpity says:

    Viv, since you do not know me very well or the things I do in my life yet you think you can judge my relationship with God? I can tell you one thing I do not do is worship people as you do your dad and I try with all my heart to understand others rather than make accusations or jump to conclusions about them as you do towards me.

    We are given this book, the bible which teacher’s teach from, songs are written from what it says, people study it and fill their minds with the things it says rather than garbage our flesh presents, people memorize verses from it and it is a great gift to us from God and He has sustained it for thousands of years for us to learn His will and ways then I think it is awesome to be able to read it.

    People from around the world fight to have it and hold it as precious. If you do not feel that way about it then I have nothing but pity for you as you cling to your political wars and battles between people groups rather than filling your mind with the things of God. Stay Stuck with what has always filled your mind, I guess it works for you as Mart said, “Then we get another picture of how “our” rearrangement of everything— based on how “we” see things, what “we” want, and how feel about “ourselves”— is working for us.” Rather than learning another picture from God or how God sees things and how He feels about us. Who really cares right?

  180. poohpity says:

    Joyce if it is riding on a high horse to promote people to read God’s word for themselves then I do stand or ride on that. What I say is not important but what God says, is! So with the short time I have left to live I will continue to point people to learn all they can about God through His word, just as He wants people to do if they are after His heart, if they pursue Him the way He has pursued us. I guess I should be tortured and executed for pointing people to God, right? What a horrible fault to have.

  181. poohpity says:

    Not being around a person 24 hours a day, 7 days a week tell my how one knows for sure if they do not read the bible? As a parent I sat down with my children and read an age appropriate bible to them to teach them about God and I can not think of a better thing to do for them than that. Nor do I know many Christian parents that do not do that with and for the good and care of their children.

    God said, ““So commit yourselves wholeheartedly to these words of mine. Tie them to your hands and wear them on your forehead as reminders. 19 Teach them to your children. Talk about them when you are at home and when you are on the road, when you are going to bed and when you are getting up. 20 Write them on the doorposts of your house and on your gates, 21 so that as long as the sky remains above the earth, you and your children may flourish in the land the Lord swore to give your ancestors.”

    We flourish with the words of God!

  182. jeff1 says:

    Beloved says:
    January 6, 2019 at 11:27 pm

    I’m so thankful for Spurgeon, his devotion tonight as usual lifts my spirits to Godly joy! Not so this blog most days when pooh is on her high horse. Which is most days.

    Pooh is a good example of why God asks for obedience rather than knowledge because He knows where it ends up.

    My dad was a mild man but highly intelligent because he kept step with God that’s no easy thing to do and requires great discipline and a heart and mind for God.

    He did have a sound Christian upbringing that my mum did not have.

    Beloved, I know what it is to get on my high horse and trust me God has a way of bringing us down to earth with a bang!

    It’s a matter of time and my seeing what God is teaching me and I am harder to get through to these days as memory from 25 years of medication takes its toil.

    Pooh is her own worst enemy though I doubt she sees it that way but I have been there, done that, and still struggling.

  183. poohpity says:

    No I am just learning what being very judgmental and critical really looks like Viv not only towards me but yourself, your Mom or anyone else who does not measure up to your dad.

    Also from what I have learned God does not want us to remain ignorant about Him when authors in the bible say things like; Peter saying, “But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.” OR “His divine power has given us everything we need for life and godliness through the knowledge of Him who called us by His own glory and excellence.” OR “If indeed they have escaped the corruption of the world through their knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, only to be entangled and overcome by it again, their final condition is worse than it was at first.” OR “For if you possess these qualities and continue to grow in them, they will keep you from being ineffective and unproductive in your knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.”

    Several places in scripture God says He wants us to know Him. Actually the bible says God wants us to know Him more than our obedience. If one wants to talk about obedience which you say you do, don’t you have to know what we are to be obedient to and one has to read the bible to that find that out, don’t they?

    Viv, what would you suggest to us on how to get to know God better, if not through His very own words?

  184. jeff1 says:

    It was easier for my dad to know God than it was ever going to be for my mum or me because he had the right start in life.

    He had learned from an early age to trust God and so it was second nature to him.

    I didn’t recognise as I was growing up that my dad’s righteous choices were down to him walking close to God.

    Its hindsight that tells me my dad seen clearer than the rest of us because he knew God so well and that was down to him setting his mind and heart on the things of God as he was disciplined from a child and continued that discipline all through his life.

    His strength was his stability of mind while my mum was a basket case from she was a child and I inherited my mums mind and not my dad’s.

    I am telling you as it is, Pooh, but you only hear what you want to hear which I am well used to by now as I have lived with people like that all my life.

    I am not judgemental anymore because I have learned that we are equally shortsighted, wayward and ignorant when it comes to God and it is my dad’s example that taught me that because he knew who was leading him and what his part was.

    Its down to us that we disagree on God because as my son says it was Northern Ireland who set the precedence in creating one church after another because they couldn’t agree i.e. free Presbyterian, free Methodist and so on and so forth because they had to be right rather than allow God to be right.

    It is when I seek God with all my heart that I find Him and my dad went further than that because He had a mind that was up to it.

    God will only reveal to me when it is right for me to see His revelation and if I have not been obedient in the small matters then He won’t be revealing to me on the bigger ones.

    Do you really believe that God is in control, Pooh, because it doesn’t much seem like that from where I am standing.

  185. poohpity says:

    This year will be 30 years for me that God gave me another chance to turn my back on the world and accept His pursuit of me and His love. It was because of the great love that God showed me that I wanted to get to know Him better. For Christmas my mom gave me a LAB and I could not put it down. But it just so happened during that time for 4 years I did not stop going to bible studies but I did stop my personal time with the Lord reading His word in the morning and if it could go wrong it did, just as Peter said, I got entangled and overcome by the world again but praise be to God that His mercies are greater than any of my behaviors and I got back on track again filling my mind with Him.

    Am I a perfect Christian no because there is no such thing but I do know God better and understand that there is still so much to learn but I am so excited to be in a position to keep on learning. I am a life long student of the Lord and if that makes anyone think, I think I am on a high horse or superior to anyone else then they are totally wrong because I know it is available to everyone but some would just rather fill their minds with garbage instead. It is no wonder there is so much mental illness all around the world because minds are filled with trash rather than anything healthy and beneficial for the spirit. It is like having a diet of sugar rather than fruits and vegetables.

    If how anyone is living now helps fill them with hope, joy, peace then continue to do what you are doing and change no habits but if you want a better life and a closer relationship with God try something new and see yourself and the world around you through the eyes of God, the bigger picture not only the little itty bitty space you occupy in this big ol’ world. In other words get out of self and go on a journey of discovery which can happen when one takes a small amount of time every morning to read God’s word, sing Him a song of Praise and pray that He will guide your day and experience a whole new way of living this life. Try it you may fall in love with God all over again and with the very people He created and enjoy all of His creation with excitement and newness overflowing with joy, hope and love.

    I know, as a lot on here have shared, going to church or reading the bible is not foremost on your lists of things to do but maybe this year it could be different. If you really want something different to happen in your life and you are tired of being stuck in the same ol, same ol just a different day one has to “do” something different. Nothing changes if nothing changes but if you are satisfied with where you are then by all means stay there.

  186. poohpity says:

    Guess what God has no favorites! His love is for ALL the same but He does know who wants His love and who doesn’t. Romans 2:11 NLT

  187. poohpity says:

    Viv, everything you wrote was in some form of judgement or criticize one way or another. You judged your mum’s mental illness, your dad’s walk with the Lord, the church. So who is it that is not seeing?

  188. poohpity says:

    Even your country

  189. Beloved says:

    Thinking about the devil, not a “worldview” but a real adversary, Spurgeon says,
    “If the devil comes to you and you get into an argument with him, he will beat you; for he is a very ancient lawyer, and he has been at the business for so many ages that you cannot match him. Send him to your Advocate! Refer him to the Wonderful, the Counselor! Always shelter beneath this fact: ‘My times are in His hands. I have left the whole business to Another, and I cannot dishonor Him by meddling.’ Satan knows the Christ too well to go to Him—he knows the taste of His broadsword, of, ‘It is written’ (Mat 4:4, 7, 10). He will not contest with Jesus if we leave Him to plead the causes of our soul!”–1891, Sermon 2205

  190. Beloved says:

    On second thought, the devil is part of the Christian worldview as most secularists don’t believe he exists. Or underestimate his power.

  191. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    January 7, 2019 at 10:17 am

    My mum’s mental state was well known as being explosive and my dad faced physical and mental abuse as well as the fact that she physically abused herself and as children we seen this.

    I didn’t know my mum had mental problems at the time but I grew to understand that her behaviour was not what should be expected.

    We all make judgement calls as God give us free will so how can we not.

    God gives us free will and still protects and guides us from this world, others and ourselves when we listen, but I never had my dad’s patience for listening, because I was too volatile like my mum.

    It pays to listen to God and not other people and on that I can agree with you, Pooh, because it has been my downfall to take people at their word but at last I see that it is the actions of people that matter more.

  192. jeff1 says:

    Be Still My Soul

    Be still my soul the Lord is on thy side
    Bear patiently the cross of grief or pain
    Leave to thy God to order and provide
    In every change He faithful will remain
    Be still my soul thy best, thy heavenly friend
    Through thorny ways leads to a joyful end

    Be still my soul when dearest friends depart
    And all is darkened in the vale of tears
    Then shalt thou better know His love His heart
    Who comes to soothe thy sorrow and thy fears
    Be still my soul the waves and winds shall know
    His voice who ruled them while He dwelt below

    Be still my soul the hour is hastening on
    When we shall be forever with the Lord
    When disappointment grief and fear are gone
    Sorrow forgot love’s purest joys restored
    Be still my soul when change and tears are past
    All safe and blessed we shall meet at last

  193. Beloved says:


  194. street says:

    World Views
    been thinking about music that i hear. the music of the world can lead to in-ordainment affections and emotions through deception. it appeals to our fallen selves and we have no problem of enjoying it for a season. even mclean knew he could make them happy for a while.
    thinking about the music of a Fathers Heart. an Eternal Harmony of Faithful Love best seen and heard in Christ Jesus. redeeming that which had no value and making it invaluable.
    knowing nothing but Christ and Him crucified……He lives!

  195. Beloved says:

    Street thanks for the walk through memory lane with American Pie. I’ve said many times I should have died in so many different ways in the 60’s, but God! Oh Yes He had me in His sights all along and I am so thankful. Even though I recognized at the time my life was “protected” by Unknown forces it wasn’t until I met Jesus through Billy Graham that things started to make sense. He has truly turned the whole world upside down with love, joy, and a peace that goes beyond understanding! Oh how He loves us!

  196. Regina says:

    Good Afternoon, All
    At work right now, and I wanted to activate my user name and password from my cell. That way, I can blog with you all if I get a free moment at work. beloved, you’re so right about the beautifully, awesome blessing the Lord provided for us in the music of song birds! WOW! God is SO masterful in His divine artistry! Song birds speak volumes about the ministry of music (beautiful, melodious sound). Makes me wonder what the heavenly choir is gonna sound like? And I know I want to be a part of it! Well, my thoughts for now.

    Beautiful, sunny day in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,

    ps. Apologies for any typos… My phone won’t allow me to proofread left to right.

  197. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you very much Regina, for your contribution. Such a positive note!

    I am also part of a choir. I like classical muzic very much: Bach, Handel, Verdi.
    Once our choir sang songs out of Parsival from Wagner.
    I was struck by the message of the song:
    This is my blood, this is my flesh!

    Parsival is an Opera about the Holy Grail.
    I thought then that Wagner was a believer. Later I found out, he was more of a new age man. But…. when he got older he studied his own Parsival again, and he was drawn into the christian message.
    When I heard the music, I knew that the man was safe. And I still do believe, that he was drawn to Jesus, at the very end of his life. that he got the message that was in the lyrics he himself had used in the music.
    (You can find all of this on wikipedia.)

  198. foreverblessed says:

    I wonder how Steve is doing, he had his other eye “fixed”. Is everything OK, Steve?
    May God bless and strenghten you, Glenna and Matt!

  199. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Beloved, for the Spurgeon sermon!
    Today I got a devotion:
    Believe what Jesus believes about you!
    We are children of God, through faith in Jesus!
    We are righteous in His Name!
    We are right with God, through Jesus!

  200. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Foreverblessed for your love and concern. The surgery went fine Friday and I am still supposed to be in recovery mode.

    My younger brother came to help me with Matt Friday, Saturday and Sunday and I have a friend to help Matt with his exercises all this week.

    So God once again has provided.

    Thank you again Foreverblessed.


  201. poohpity says:

    Viv, I guess it comes down to when you judge, accuse, criticize it is all right(comments; Jan 7th @ 6:32am and 10:05am) but when you THINK I am judging by sharing God’s word it is wrong? I am so confused. I guess I am blind and deaf to not even acknowledge reality but how can I read correctly from the top of my high horse. ;-)

    Steve so glad to read your surgery went well and you had help with Matt in the process. Praise God for providing the extra hands.

  202. poohpity says:

    I pray we all can become aware and what it really means to be reflecting those in the world around us and the difference one can make when we reflect the heart of Jesus. John 3:17 NLT; John 8:15, 12:47, 17:23

  203. poohpity says:

    This is who I am to God no matter what anyone else says about me.

    Days will come when you don’t have the strength
    When all you hear is you’re not worth anything
    Wondering if you ever could be loved
    And if they truly saw your heart, they’d see too much

    You’re beautiful
    You’re beautiful
    You are made for so much more than all of this
    You’re beautiful
    You’re beautiful
    You are treasured, you are sacred
    You are His
    You’re beautiful

    Praying that you have the heart to fight
    ‘Cause you are more than what is hurting you tonight
    For all the lies you’ve held inside so long
    They are nothing in the shadow of the cross

    You’re beautiful
    You’re beautiful
    You are made for so much more than all of this
    You’re beautiful
    You’re beautiful
    You are treasured, you are sacred
    You are His
    You’re beautiful

    Before you ever took a breath
    Long before the world began
    Of all the wonders He possessed
    There was one more precious
    Of all the earth and skies above
    You’re the one He madly loves
    Enough to die

    You’re beautiful
    You’re beautiful
    In His eyes
    You’re beautiful
    You were meant for so much more than all of this
    You’re beautiful
    You are treasured you are sacred you are his
    You’re beautiful
    You are meant for so much more than all of this
    You’re beautiful
    You are treasured you are sacred you are his

    “You’re Beautiful” by Mercy Me

  204. poohpity says:

    Confidence in who we are to God is NOT arrogance. The bible tells us who we are to Him and it is on His word that we should stand.

  205. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, if I judge others hard then I also judge myself hard because I have been used to others judging me hard so it is what I know.

    I wasn’t able to stop people hating me and the repercussions are that I ended up hating them and so I don’t know love as you know it.

    Trusting God is what I know because His love is greater than my hate and so I can leave it with Him.

    I can take refuge in His love and be at peace with myself and my enemies because I am weary of all the bigotry in my county irrespective of what side it comes from it comes down to intolerance and I have moved on from that mentality and seek God for my solace.

    It was my dad’s example that taught me that God is on our side but I must also be on His and that means getting away from the mindset that God has to be a Protestant or a Catholic.

    I grew up with intolerance so much so that it became a part of me but it’s not a part I want to hang on to so in time I hope for a change in me as I believe that is what God does when I so desire it.

  206. poohpity says:

    Wouldn’t it be better to follow the example of Jesus because He even gives us the power to do so? Is following your dad’s example working for you? Does the Lord want us to follow another human being or Him?

    The Lord does NOT say do to others as they have done to you but “treat others how you want to be treated”! The first is a reaction to others and the second is an action we do because of how God has treated us, in love.

  207. poohpity says:

    Viv, I wish you knew how wonderful to God you really are. God loves you more than your dad ever could with a purer and faithful love that nothing or no one could destroy or take away from you! :-) If you were the only person alive on this earth He would have still went through everything He did just for you.

  208. Beloved says:

    World View

    Thinking about how Jesus taught when speaking to His disciples, the Pharisees, and “sinners”. It’s a good study. So unlike the ways of the world. No argueing, manipulation, or sugar coating. Pure gospel. Some didn’t like what He had to say and walked away. But He ran after those that were already His (prodigals). What keeping, what care! Speaking the word in season and out! I love Jesus and His World. I love sinners in this world, because He first loved me.

  209. Beloved says:

    My life, my World

    Psalm 16 The Message (MSG)
    A David Song
    16 1-2 Keep me safe, O God,
    I’ve run for dear life to you.
    I say to God, “Be my Lord!”
    Without you, nothing makes sense.

    3 And these God-chosen lives all around—
    what splendid friends they make!

    4 Don’t just go shopping for a god.
    Gods are not for sale.
    I swear I’ll never treat god-names
    like brand-names.

    5-6 My choice is you, God, first and only.
    And now I find I’m your choice!
    You set me up with a house and yard.
    And then you made me your heir!

    7-8 The wise counsel God gives when I’m awake
    is confirmed by my sleeping heart.
    Day and night I’ll stick with God;
    I’ve got a good thing going and I’m not letting go.

    9-10 I’m happy from the inside out,
    and from the outside in, I’m firmly formed.
    You canceled my ticket to hell—
    that’s not my destination!

    11 Now you’ve got my feet on the life path,
    all radiant from the shining of your face.
    Ever since you took my hand,
    I’m on the right way.

  210. jeff1 says:

    My dad’s example, Pooh, was to put God first and his religion and country did not get in the way of his faith whereas I ended up following the crowd which was since I was a Protestant then God must be too.

    So, yes, I am closer to God since I got rid of the bigotry mentality as far as I see it anyway.

    I cannot however change the bigotry that still exists in my country or the hatred my enemies still have and I still have to live in that environment.

    You talk of love, Pooh, as if everyone knows what love is but as a child I did’t experience love in my home because there was too much verbal and physical violence as my mum was so unpredictable.

    At school I was hated by a teacher which made my school life hell.

    At 15 I experienced religion and the division it caused here and the hatred it caused.

    I married a man who showed me no love and that came to an end when my health couldn’t take it no more.

    I don’t know what love is Pooh as I wasn’t brought up with any understanding of it and survival as been my instinct as when all you see is violence and hatred then you react to it by either fight or flight and I guess I choose to fight.

    I believe God loves me and I would even go as far as saying that I feel that God is the only one who could love me because I have never really found that anyone else took the time to.

    My dad worked morning to late at night so I seen very little of him and I expect it was because my mum wasn’t the easiest to live with but she was good to us and it was my dad that suffered the onslaught.

    God’s love isn’t something we understand in this world as it is very thin on the ground from what I see anyway.

    People talk the talk but they rarely walk the walk is the reality of this world and why I expect God said don’t make this world your home.

  211. poohpity says:

    And there is the very reason to read the bible to learn what the action of love actually is.

  212. jeff1 says:

    Love to to me is the love I feel for my children as I never stop loving them even though they give me cause at times so I see that as the nearest of my understanding to God’s love as it is unconditional and so is God’s love for us and it is knowing that gives me the courage to go on in the world when often I would feel like giving up.

    Children are a blessing because they teach us to be unselfish with our love and that’s as near as we get to understanding God’s in this world.

  213. Beloved says:

    I believe God loves me and I would even go as far as saying that I feel that God is the only one who could love me because I have never really found that anyone else took the time to.

    Viv I understand how you feel. I’m alone 90% of the time yet it’s Gods uncompromising love that makes me feel secure in Him. The more troubles come the deeper I feel His love, having troubles since I was born. I think when I stopped expecting love from people is when I let-go of disappointment in people. There freedom in putting God first in one’s life! Freedom to love and walk in His kingdom through the dust and dirt of fallen world. Oh how He loves you and me!

  214. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Beloved, having the wrong expectations of others has been a struggle for me and it has driven me to seek God and in seeking I have found contentment from God’s promise that He doesn’t stop loving me and I know that I have felt unloved by God in my head but in my heart there is a connection that makes me know otherwise.

    God is good all the time but there is a disconnection in my head that causes me to struggle with this truth but its still God’s truth and our blessing that God doesn’t go back on His word.

  215. Beloved says:

    Viv like you I’ve always loved music. This is the song I first sang in Sunday school when I was just 8 or 9 that convinced me God loves me, as I was not loved at home.

    When He Cometh

    When He cometh, when He cometh
    To make up His jewels,
    All His jewels, precious jewels,
    His loved and His own.

    Like the stars of the morning,
    His brightness adorning,
    They shall shine in their beauty,
    Bright gems for His crown.

    He will gather, He will gather
    The gems for His kingdom;
    All the pure ones, all the bright ones,
    His loved and His own.

    Little children, little children,
    Who love their Redeemer,
    Are the jewels, precious jewels,
    His loved and His own.

    God really touched me through this song, that I was beautiful to Him had a profound effect on me. Oh Yes I still love Jesus!

  216. Beloved says:

    Bible Gateway verse of the day:
    James 1:12 (NIRV)
    12 Blessed is the person who keeps on going when times are hard. After they have come through hard times, this person will receive a crown. The crown is life itself. The Lord has promised it to those who love him.

  217. poohpity says:

    It would seem that the bible teaches us how God loves and pursues us then how to love God and others not to critique how others love us in return. Look around at all of creation, that was what He did for us to enjoy and live together in a dependent relationship with Him.

    My love for my children was nothing compared to the love God has for me/us. Often, sad to say, I expect love back from my children where God just seems to love even if He gets nothing in return, not even acknowledgement that He exists. He gives expecting nothing in return but when it seems a person experiences that kind of love they are more than overjoyed to share it. We teach our kids to be independent of us.

  218. jeff1 says:

    God makes a way when there seems to be no way, Beloved, what a beautiful song for you to hear in your time of need and my first time to hear it. I am so glad that you have always known His love and He yours in the midst of what I can not imagine.

    Pooh, I know you cannot understand my affinity with my dad but you forget that I was on the wrong path if it weren’t for him because I was listening to and following all the wrong people.

    It was my dad who took God out of the box for me because God used him to reveal to me the messed up my thinking and my believing.

    My dad taught me that God isn’t an Irish Catholic or an Ulster Protestant and having that mindset will get me further into darkness and that is not where God wants me to be.

    My dad walked in the light of God’s truths but of course I didn’t see it at the time because I was disconnected to that truth and the difficulty for me is getting reconnected and my hope is in God for it is He who makes a way as Beloved as so beautifully revealed in her song He will gather up His children for it is He who knows the way that I have long forgotten.

  219. jeff1 says:

    Holy Highway

    There’s a road called the holy highway that once was a desert land
    Very soon you’ll hear the sound of a holy marching band
    Everlasting joy upon them, there’s a remnant strong and true
    We bring the song back to Zion; we bring the praise back to you

    We exalt You, God Almighty, You are worthy to be praised
    Let all nations bow before You, Holy Ancient of all days

    There’s a road called the holy highway, where the people dance and shout
    For the enemy is running with confusion all about
    Raise our banners in the victory; raise them high His word is true
    We bring our song back to Zion, we bring the praise back to you

    We exalt You, God Almighty, You are worthy to be praised
    Let all nations bow before You, Holy Ancient of all days

    Holy, holy, holy, Lord God Almighty
    Holy, holy holy is the Lord
    Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah
    Hallelujah, hallelujah, hallelujah

    There’s a road called the holy highway that once was a desert land
    Very soon you’ll hear the sound of a holy marching band and
    Everlasting joy upon them, there’s a remnant strong and true
    We bring the song back to Zion; we bring the praise back to you
    We bring the praise back to you

  220. poohpity says:

    There are many people that were instrumental in pointing me to God but I do not put them on a pedestal because they have also shared the life struggles they faced and failed which is like what Peter and Paul did when people began to worship them, they pointed out they were only human beings like every one else and the miracles people saw were the work of God not them.

    Viv, When you first started commenting on here I literally thought you were referring to God as your dad the way you talked about him but it did not take long to see it was your own fleshly dad you were talking about. My mom was the one I could see the glory of God on her face after she spent time with Him in the morning and the change in her life because of Him but I would have never made her my god because she never hid her faults, so you are right I do not understand about putting another human being on a pedestal where only God should be. My mom pointed me to God and His word as I did with my children whether they follow in that is up to them but that is where I directed them all the while sharing how much I mess up and asked for forgiveness so they would not put me on one.

    I had put both my parents on pedestals because they never shared their mistakes and failures so I never thought they had any. I thought I could never measure up to them which lead me down the path that I was following, it wasn’t until I learned of their faults that I allowed them just to be who they were sinners or human beings just like me, no better or no worse. 2 Cor 10:12

  221. foreverblessed says:

    Two days ago I saw a video on YouTube,
    “Imam converts after reading about Jesus in the Quran”

    This is an amazing story! The man was telling how he found Jesus… and that was not initially by reading the bible, although he was directed to the Bible after all..
    But as an imam one of his flock asked: who is Jesus?
    So he started to bloom in the Quran what was said about Jesus, that He was the word of God. And he started to search further, and further, he asked a man higher up in ranks, asking about Jesus. The man said that God could not have a son, because God would have had a wife, and He didn’t.
    He was considering this answer, and came up with this: God can hear, but has no ears, God can see, but has no eyes, God can have a Son, and have no wife!
    Problem solved!
    So he went further in his pursuit for Jesus. Then somewhere it says: if you can’t find the answer look in the Bible.
    And then he started to read the Bible, the Gospels.

    Just an amazing story!

    God has His ways of reaching a heart! As long as we honostly look for the Truth!
    Our amazing God!

  222. foreverblessed says:

    Bloom= look
    Sorry, auto-correct

  223. poohpity says:

    There are many converts not only from Judaism but from Islam and from atheism(C.S. Lewis for example) just by way of reading the bible. RZIM ministries has many stories of such. Just goes to show don’t it that anyone who is honestly pursuing God they will find Him and find He was close by all the while.

  224. jeff1 says:

    Why does it matter to you that I believe God pursued me through my dad and songs Pooh as I never read my Bible.

    Its that high handed attitude that troubles me about you because my dad walked in God’s truth without a high handed attitude towards anyone.

    If you were really interested in God saving sinners Pooh then you might just spare a thought that God choose to save me by whatever means He could because that’s how I see it. God understands the state of my mind Pooh and speaks to my heart instead and you may very well object to that but I suggest you take it up with God because He is in charge of whom He draws to Himself as I see it and if you really understood what it is to know His Ways you might just see that.

    My dad knew the Bible was for his encouragement and rebuke and that is what kept him humbly walking in the sight of God but I haven’t had the same experience as my dad, Pooh, but that doesn’t say that God doesn’t love me any less but just differently because I am different to my dad in that I never was as close to God and that’s because it was his inheritance from a child.

    God does care for the lost of this world and on that we can agree but where we do differ is in how He draws them to Himself as I see that the work of God whereas you see it the work of the Bible and I guess we will have to agree to differ on that one.

  225. poohpity says:

    I guess it matters to me because I care about you. I never said any of those others things you accuse me of nor do I even think that way. I never said the bible changes anyone that is totally in God’s hands but I would have never known that unless I read it in the bible.

  226. Beloved says:

    Christian worldview

    2 Timothy2

  227. SFDBWV says:

    Hello to you Viv, I feel a need to give you some encouragement, fellowship and love.

    The Word of God clearly tells us to honor our mother and father.

    It is my personal pleasure to hear about your father and how he overcame the centuries old hatred that has engulfed your homeland. How as a Christian he embodied the nature and heart of Jesus in dealing with people.

    It has been my pleasure to get to know your dad through you.

    Blessings to you Viv


  228. Beloved says:

    Steve I second that!

    I just found out there is a Bible for visual learners, like me, called Faithlife Study Bible, it’s full of pictures, diagrams etc. Although I just got a one year Chronological Bible I may start saving for this one!

  229. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, if you care for me then be glad that through my dad and songs God has given me understanding so that I can know peace in my latter years that I have not had in my early ones.

    All I know is that God knows me better than I know Him and so you may be right that it is the Bible that makes you closer to Him.

    I know God has forgiven my waywardness but I don’t know why He should other than as you say He loves me beyond my understanding.

    “Who Am I?”

    When I think of how He came so far from glory
    Came to dwell among the lowly such as I
    To suffer shame and such disgrace
    On Mount Calvary take my place
    Then I ask myself this question
    Who am I?

    Who am I that The King would bleed and die for
    Who am I that He would pray not my will, Thy Lord
    The answer I may never know
    Why He ever loved me so
    But to that old rugged cross He’d go
    For who am I?

    When I’m reminded of His words
    I’ll leave Him never
    If you’ll be true I’ll give to you life forever
    Oh I wonder what I could have done
    To deserve God’s only Son
    To fight my battles until they’re won
    For who am I?

    Who am I that The King would bleed and die for
    Who am I that He would pray not my will, Thy Lord
    The answer I may never know
    Why He ever loved me so
    But to that old rugged cross He’d go
    For who am I?
    But to an old rugged cross He’d go for, who am I

  230. Beloved says:

    Deb I too thank God that he came to you first through your mother then through the scriptures! God has His ways! For me it was through the church I was dropped off at. Oh how unsearchable His ways!
    Romans 11:33NLT
    Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing out!

    New Living Translation
    Oh, how great are God’s riches and wisdom and knowledge! How impossible it is for us to understand his decisions and his ways!

    English Standard Version
    Oh, the depth of the riches and wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable are his judgments and how inscrutable his ways!

  231. foreverblessed says:

    So true! Beloved….
    I came to a closer relationship with Jesus by NOT reading the Bible.
    For as I read it, the fundamentalistic interpretation of the Bible would haunt me. I wanted to see Jesus…
    So I only read Bible verses that were written out in books, that talked about the Grace of God.
    So I read Bible verses, but NOT in my own Bible, because when I would open my own Bible, other verses around it would jump out and grab me, and draw MD back into fundamentalism.

    And how well Jesus spoke to me, directly to my heart! Such a close connection!
    Singing together in Christian meetings would also help lots, tears would come, because of the mercies of God.
    That took a few years, it was 22 years ago.
    But I never said I do not read the Bible anymore. As I do study of lots and lots. And I share here what I find.
    Just been thinking….
    Just think about things together. Encouraging one another….

  232. foreverblessed says:

    Classic Christianity by Bob George helped me a lot!
    Christ not only died for our sins,
    He wants to LIVE His Life in us.

    I was looking up the name of the writer, and found out that HD had gone to be with the Lord, June 1, 2018.

    I remember a poster here, Kingsdaughter, who once wrote: when I read the Bible I only see condemnation.
    That really struck me.
    I have been praying for her. And tried to leave it with God, HD is all powerful. He collects our prayers, and works on them when He considers the time is right.
    Sometimes a work in a person’s heart takes years and years, and it looks as if there is no change.
    But God knows the deepest corners, He knows, He is patient

  233. jeff1 says:

    SFDBWV says:
    January 9, 2019 at 11:10 am

    It is my personal pleasure to hear about your father and how he overcame the centuries old hatred that has engulfed your homeland. How as a Christian he embodied the nature and heart of Jesus in dealing with people.

    Steve, thank you for understanding and putting into words the sort of man my dad was.

    In the midst of troubles in my home and country he was someone I could rely on being an easy man to get along with as he put God first in his life.

  234. jeff1 says:

    I didn’t worship my father but I seen goodness in him that I didn’t see in too many others during a turbulent time and now I know where that goodness came from and thank the Lord I had him for a dad.

  235. poohpity says:

    Beloved, I never once said, “I too thank God that he came to you first through your mother then through the scriptures!”

    He first came to me when I asked Him into my heart at nine when He forgave me for my sins then 26 years later when I had no place else to turn but to Him when I lost my home and was homeless with a 6 month old and a two year old, was on the brink of losing my children, my mind and by letting go of doing things my way, I cried out to Him for help.

    Watching the effect of spending time with God from my mom and the desire to read scripture were steps that God directed me to for the next steps to take in my relationship with Him as He does with anyone who truly wants to know Him.

    When I go out and share the Good News people often ask what do I do next after they have come to believe and I tell them read God’s word and go to church to be around other believers because we need each other. This new life is about relationships just as the first churches did when they were established because they helped each other stand up against the battles we face in the world because we are after all to be different, set apart (holy), not better or worse but different than those in the world because we now search and seek spiritual things not the things the world offers.

    Just regular people have no desire to learn about God nor do they seek Him with all their heart, soul and mind. Have you ever asked a non-believer what the desires of their heart is? It is certainly not to get to know God. It is things like get rich, get married, get promoted in a job, etc. but God is not even in their thoughts or desires.

    This is the prayer of Jesus for us;
    “I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. 7 Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. 8 For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. 9 I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them. 11 And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I am coming to you, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth.

    20 “I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.

  236. poohpity says:

    Do you think that anyone who doesn’t deliberately search and seek for God themselves is going to direct anyone else toward God?

  237. gramoftwins says:

    Joyce, I think you touched on something few people take time to consider and that is that not everyone learns the same way. A simple google search found this…..
    We can learn in a mix of these styles (listed below) and some may find that they have a dominant style of learning, with far less use of the other styles. Others may find that they use different styles in different circumstances. There is no right mix. By recognizing and understanding your own learning styles, you can use techniques better suited to you. This improves the speed and quality of your learning.

    The learning styles are these:

    Visual – You prefer using pictures, images, and spatial understanding.
    Aural – You prefer sound and music
    Verbal – You prefer using words, both in speech and writing.
    Physical – You prefer using your body, hands and sense of touch.
    Logical – You prefer using logic, reasoning and systems.
    Social – You prefer to learn in groups or with other people.
    Solitary – You prefer to work alone and use self-study.

    God created each one of us according to His perfect will. Like the snowflakes in a winter’s storm, each of us was made by our Creator different and unique. Like the birds in the sky, each of us was given a beauty all of their own and have been given a song that is sweet and lovely to His ear.

    So regardless of how you learn, as long as you are willing to be taught, that is what God sees. He will meet us with exactly what we need in order to learn of Him. So chin up Viv, don’t let anyone try to convince you that how you are learning of Him is the wrong way to do it. Stay the course. If and when He wants you to learn of Him by some other way, you can be sure that He will open your eyes and ears and mind to receive what it is He is wanting you to know. xo

    And that goes for each of us here.


  238. Beloved says:

    Sorry pooh I can’t read your posts right now.

  239. jeff1 says:

    I needed to hear that, Pat, thank you so much to both you and Steve for your encouragement and fellowship as it can be a roller coaster and your support is very much welcomed.

  240. Beloved says:

    Pat we studied learning methods as well as evangelism in college. It really opens your eyes to the myriad ways God uses to reveal Himself.

  241. Beloved says:

    I think sometimes our “view” of God can be way too small.

  242. jeff1 says:


    There is com-ing a day when no heart–aches shall come No more clouds in the sky, no more tears to dim the eye.
    All is peace for-ev-er-more on that hap-py gold-en shore.
    What a day, glo-ri-ous day that will be!

    What a day that will be when my Je-sus I shall see,
    And I look up-on His face the One who saved me by His grace.
    When He takes me by the hand and leads me thro’ the Prom-ised Land;
    What a day, glo-ri-ous day that will be!

    There’ll be no sor-row there, no more bur—dens to bear,
    No more sick-ness, no pain, no more part-ing o-ver there.
    And for-ev-er I will be with the One who died for me.
    What a day, glo-ri-ous day that will be!

    What a day that will be when my Je-sus I shall see,
    And I look up-on His face the One who saved me by His grace.
    When He takes me by the hand and leads me thro’ the Prom-ised Land;
    What a day, glo-ri-ous day that will be!

    What a day, glo-ri-ous day that will be!

  243. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    You’re welcome, foreverblessed re: my comment on 1-7-19. I really like classical music too, though I’m not really sure what kind of music I’m most passionate about. I’m not very fond of country music.
    I wish my mom & dad would’ve had the time, desire and financial means to expose me to music (on a high level) when I was very young. An uncle and aunt (both are now deceased) on my dad’s side of the family had the most musical influence on me.
    Steve, I’m also glad your eye is better and that you received help from family and friends when you needed it. It’s such a blessing to have caring family members and friends! We all would have a really tough time living in this world if we didn’t have loving family members and friends.
    Well, gotta get prepared for a few chores before I leave for work. HAPPY Thursday to you all.

    46 degrees F in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,

  244. foreverblessed says:

    We are in Christ:
    The mystery is Christ in touch
    Col 1:27

    Christ is the Living Word, it is the LIFE of Christ, the Spirit that brings life to us.

    Words in a book are only words, if the Spirit does not bring them to life in us, it is no use.

    And I know what I am talking about: I have read the bible, studied it, from age 6, and still did not see the Light of the world: Jesus, I saw He died for our sins, but missed thee other large of the Gospel: Jesus wants to live in us, by faith.

    You diligently study the scriptures because you think that by them you possess eternal life. These are the scriptures that testify about me, yet you refuse to come to me to have life.
    John 5:39-40

    Here Jesus says, that we have to come to Him, to have life!
    And that the scriptures are only vehicles!
    Jesus is the Living Word.
    We ought not to turn things around: the Rock upon which we stand is Jesus, not just words in the scriptures.

    If we do not have the Spirit, it is useless.
    ” The Spirit of God searches all things, even the deep things of God”
    1 Cor 1:10
    (There may be a deeper meaning to scripture, than on literal terms. That is what I learned from studying the meaning of the sabbath rest, it is talking of a soul who has come to rest in Christ. It goes way beyond a physical rest. I thought people ought to rest ons the 7th day, that was my main point. While I missed the real thing: Rest in faith in Christ! Oh, how God has been merciful to me, for showing the deeper meaning of the Sabbath)

    I tell you the truth, whoever hears My Word and believes them has eternal life. John 5:24
    “The last Adam, a life-giving Spirit”
    1 Cor 15:45

    If we restrict “My word” as only words in scriptures, we make Jesus smaller than scriptures:
    The scriptures testify about Me….
    It is the other way round!

    However, when a person is touched by Jesus in his heart, and the Spirit opens his mind, and he reads the Bible, ( I study scripture every day, and I feel the constant comments ” if any of you care tot read in the bible” as an unjust accusation. May God be merciful to that commentator.

    Reading the bible, it is a great tool to get to know Jesus better.
    But so is praying, talking with Jesus,
    So is looking up with eyes of faith to the Cross, the Spirit Will flow through us and cleanse us, healing us. ( We ought to look up every morning….)
    so is becoming still before Him, and let God talk to you.
    So is walking in nature, reading thee other book God has written: Creation
    So is walking with Jesus during our duties, doing everything as if we do it for Him.
    So is interacting with our fellow man, seeing Jesus in our Neighbour
    ” As you have done tot the least of them, you have done it unto Me”

    The staleness, of taking one of these above things, and say:
    You HAVE got to do this…

    Let free, where the Spirit of God is there is freedom

    Let go and let God

  245. foreverblessed says:

    For we preach not ourselves, but Jesus Christ as the Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
    For God, who said,
    “Let Light shine out of darkness”
    made His Light shine in our hearts to give us
    The Light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the faces of Christ.
    2 Cor 4:5-6

    See the deeper meaning of scripture,
    Be open to the movement of the Spirit.
    The Spirit that searches the deep things of God

  246. jeff1 says:

    Do not make the mistake that I made which was to believe that because a person studied their Bible they knew God.

    I listened to them to my confusion because I didn’t believe my dad could know God as well since he was not a scholar of the Bible.

    It’s only hindsight that tells me my dad knew God better than any of them because he had a heart for God while they read scripture to argue their point he choose to read what encouraged and rebuked him.

    This country did not get into the mess it is in by God’s hand but by the waywardness of His children and I know because I am one of those children.

    Its God who makes Saints or saves Sinners and He is the best judge of Character from where I am standing anyway.

    If you could see
    What I once was
    If you could go with me
    Back to where I started from
    Then, I know you would see
    A miracle of Love that put me
    In it’s sweet embrace
    And made me what I am today
    Just an old sinner
    Saved by grace

    I’m just a sinner
    Saved by grace
    When I stood condemned to death
    He took my place
    Now I live and breathe in freedom
    With each breath of life I take
    Loved and forgivin
    Backed with a living
    I’m just a sinner
    Saved by grace

    How could I boast on anything
    I’ve ever seen or done
    How could I dare to claim as mine
    The victories God has won
    Where would I be
    Had God not brought me
    Gently to this place
    I’m here to say I’m nothing but
    A sinner saved by grace

    I’m just a sinner
    Saved by grace
    When I stood condemned to death
    He took my place
    Now I grow and breathe in freedom
    With each breath of life I take
    I’m loved and forgivin
    Backed with a living
    I’m just a sinner
    Saved by grace

    Now I grow and breathe in freedom
    with each breath of life I take
    I’m loved and forgivin
    backed with a living
    I’m just a sinner
    Saved by grace
    Saved by grace

  247. foreverblessed says:

    That is so Jeff, but the other way round is also tru:
    When you know God in the face of Christ ( sorry, not faces) you may study your bible.
    And trust God, that the Holy Spirit will lead you into all truth.
    And not be afraid what other christians say.

    Fear is fought with the love of God
    Love from heaven. As a gift to those who ask!

  248. foreverblessed says:

    I am not pushing you to study your bible, I am praying for you that God will give you His power to fight fear.
    I am sorry glad that all those spiritual songs speak to your heart, they portray the essence of the message of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

  249. jeff1 says:

    I am not saying otherwise, Forever, just telling what it was like for me and how God connected to me through songs and my dad.

    I do not fear what other christians say anymore as I know now it is what God says that matters.

    My fear was the bomb and the bullet because of my close association with the military here but I know now that God has been with me through it all.

    I do not tell anyone how to practise their faith but be blessed that they have a connection to God and know that He cares.

    As for reading the Bible my head is too scrambled to read a magazine so I just don’t go there.

    I just want others to know that God finds a way to connect whether you are a Bible reader or not because there are some who try to make little of your faith because of lack of knowledge of the Bible which is wrong as it is God who is revealing His truths to you that matters.

    Verse 1
    I’ve had many tears and sorrows,
    I’ve had questions for tomorrow,
    there’s been times I didn’t know right from wrong.
    But in every situation,
    God gave me blessed consulation,
    that my trials come to only make me strong.

    Through it all,
    through it all,
    I’ve learned to trust in Jesus,
    I’ve learned to trust in God.

    Through it all,
    through it all,
    I’ve learned to depend upon His Word.

    Verse 2
    I’ve been to lots of places,
    I’ve seen a lot of faces,
    there’s been times I felt so all alone.
    But in my lonely hours,
    yes, those precious lonely hours,
    Jesus lets me know that I was His own


    Verse 3
    I thank God for the mountains,
    and I thank Him for the valleys,
    I thank Him for the storms He brought me through.
    For if I’d never had a problem,
    I wouldn’t know God could solve them,
    I’d never know what faith in God could do

  250. street says:

    describes what it was like to give us a different picture of ourselves at a time when our world seemed to be unraveling.

    Jesus, The Light of the World, gave us forgiveness of sin.
    He gave us many other things too, if we were to write them all down even the world could not contain all the books.

  251. street says:

    The word John used for “world” (kosmos), suggests the idea of the whole and totality of how things, people, and nature are ordered. In other words, it’s the big picture of how we are, and how things work—how everything and everyone is arranged or rearranged in a world of nature and people.

    thinking of the kosmos as an expression of God’s Glory and will. yet we see in Christ the fullness of God redeeming the works of His hand for His name sake and His Glory.

  252. Beloved says:

    Pooh and bubbles, thinking about your illnesses and praying today is a good day for you both.

  253. bubbles says:

    Beloved, thank you; I’m not ill.

  254. Beloved says:

    Bubbles I thought you were still fighting cancer. Praise God you are well!

  255. Beloved says:

    All our infirmities, whatever they are, are just opportunities for God to display His gracious work in us.”–1893, Sermon 2310 Spurgeon

  256. jeff1 says:

    Farther Along We’ll Know More About it – Hymn Lyrics

    Tempted and tried, we’re oft made to wonder
    Why it should be thus all the day long
    While there are others living about us
    Never molested, though in the wrong

    Farther a-long we’ll know all about it
    Farther along we’ll understand why
    Cheer up my brother, live in the sunshine
    We’ll understand it all by and by

    When death has come and taken our loved ones
    It leaves our home so lonely and drear
    Then do we wonder why others prosper
    Living so wicked year after year

    Faithful ‘til death, said our loving Master
    A few more days to labor and wait
    Toils of the road will then seem as nothing
    As we sweep through the beautiful gate

    When we see Jesus, coming in glory
    When He comes from His home in the sky
    Then we shall meet Him in that bright mansion
    We’ll understand it all by and by.

  257. poohpity says:

    If we read through the bible with a world view then there is no understanding as we saw when Jesus was teaching about Himself when He stood in the temples and taught from Moses and the prophets. The OT scholars; Scribes, Pharisees, Sadducees and Zealots had not a clue that it was Jesus the Messiah standing right in front of them that the scriptures were speaking of and pointing them to because of their unbelief and lack of the Holy Spirit. They were not born again as we talked about in “Blowin’ in the Wind” and “Alive Inside”. So they cared more about their worldly view than that of the teaching of the Spirit of God.

    Paul taught us that the scriptures were God breathed and useful for the person reading them to be equipped to do what God has given us to do, live the way God wanted us to live, to know God better and to correct, rebuke us when we are wrong and to encourage us in righteousness so that we can be complete in doing every good work God had planned for us to do from long ago. 2 Tim 3:16-17 NLT; Eph 2:10 NLT

  258. poohpity says:

    I would apologize for encouraging people to read the scriptures but I am not sorry for that in the least and it is something that God has desired for everyone to do, now the means that people go about that which may be listening to someone else read them to us or reading them for ourselves is up to individual preference but it is a tool that God has kept going for thousands of years for a very good reason and why translators from every tongue and language in the world believes it is their duty to get scripture into the hands of every follower of Jesus. If it wasn’t that important then it would have been put to rest a long time ago. “Although it is impossible to obtain exact figures, there is little doubt that the Bible is the world’s best-selling and most widely distributed book.” So there has to be a reason, right?

  259. poohpity says:

    I am so very happy to be in the company of all those who teach and encourage that it is part of our Spiritual discipline to read scripture along with prayer, fasting and going to church. I know it does not fit in so well on here but I am not here to gain the praise of people. John 12:43; Proverbs 29:25

  260. Beloved says:

    Deb, no one is disputing the relevance of scripture. Neither is anyone abusing you. Stop feeling sorry for yourself, an evangelist knows when to preach, but never badgers people. Let the Holy Spirit have its way and God will tell people what and how they need to grow learn worship.

  261. poohpity says:

    Never said anyone was abusing me dear lady and how would you know what an evangelist is to do or not to do? What you call badgering is from your world perspective but from what is truly in my heart is desiring what is in the best interest of others that is called love and encouragement to know what God has given us. But you are right to all those preacher, teachers and devotions that are encouraging people to read God’s word, stop because it is not what Joyce thinks is the right thing to do.

    How do you know if something is from the Holy Spirit or from the darkness of the world unless one knows God’s word? There are many false teachers out there and many who would lead people to follow them rather than God but to be able to discern truth one has to know what that truth is and how do you think anyone learns that?

  262. Beloved says:

    CT has a very good story of a man born into religious wars in Iran but Jesus saved him! He struggled and suffered much persecution following Christ. David Nassar is his name.

  263. Beloved says:

    I Escaped from Iran, but Not from God
    As a child of the Iranian Revolution, I wanted nothing to do with religion.

  264. street says:

    Am wondering whether Ander’s experience gives us a taste of the different ways the Apostle John describes our world. On one hand, he writes, maybe quoting Jesus in his own words, “For God so loved the world that he gave us his only Son” (John 3:16 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). Then in a later letter, the same author urges, “Do not love this world nor the things it offers you, for when you love the world, you do not have the love of the Father in you.” (1John 2:15 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ).

    seems to me that God loves the work of His Fingers. if we love the works of His Fingers, it sounds like unrequited love. John 3:16. God revealed in Christ.

  265. Beloved says:

    How do you know if something is from the Holy Spirit or from the darkness of the world unless one knows God’s word?

    My sheep hear My voice, and I know them and they follow me.
    John 10:27-30

  266. Beloved says:

    Many claim to know Gods word, as Viv can attest to, yet it’s the Spirit that divides between Truth and fiction. God is love, yes. He’s not safe, but ohhh He’s good!

  267. Beloved says:

    Can one make an idol out of a book? Even a Holy book? By their fruits they are known.

  268. poohpity says:

    God is not safe? For those who hear His voice there is no safer place to be than in His presence? If God is love and good what would make Him unsafe?

    One can make an idol out of anything or anybody and even worship a Holy Book from a world view but wasn’t it Jesus who said to make His word known? The commission that Jesus gave His followers/students was; “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you. And behold, I am with you always, to the end of the age.” How can one teach what was commanded unless they know what it is? From where does one learn what Jesus taught?

  269. SFDBWV says:

    You know as I read over the last paragraph of Mart’s thoughts I am reminded how often a healthy psychological view of ourselves comes into conflict with much of what we find in Scripture.

    Whereas a good psychologist or even a psychiatrist may work hard to get us to be happy with who we are, scripture often tells us how we fail to meet God’s standards.

    So where does that leave us?

    Some time ago I became acquainted with a fellow who had no real Judean-Christian background or any real personal involvement with any religion. Well educated, but lacking a spiritual belief.

    He began attending the local Church of God and quickly ask me why pride was looked down upon by Christians.

    After all pride in one’s appearance, in ones work and even in one’s habits seemed to him to be a healthy acceptable way of life.

    The truth is that people who hate themselves and are always critical about everything they do are often envious of others they see as “doing it right”. They often are miserable and unhappy and turn to alcohol and drugs in order to feel better, which only makes it worse.

    I guess what I am saying is that we need to have a good healthy attitude about ourselves while not taking it to a level above others. Yet that too soon becomes inevitable as we compare ourselves to others and others to ourselves.

    We need to feel good about who we are.

    How then do we think God looks at us? Individually and as a whole?

    God once looked at mankind as a whole and found it to be utterly evil and so killed off everyone except Noah, his wife, his sons and their wives.

    The next time his plan is to kill off 1/3 of everyone and save only those under the blood of Christ.

    Not because of their being acceptable, but rather because Jesus is acceptable and they accept that.

    His plan is to make everything new; how do you think a new you will be different from you now?


  270. poohpity says:

    I am quoting Mart DeHaan about the difference of those who have a world view and those who look at the world through Spiritual eyes;

    “Matthew’s gospel presents Jesus’s surprising vision of the kingdom of God. From His Sermon on the Mount (Matthew 5–7) to His teaching on the sheep and the goats (25:31–33), Jesus turned the religious thinking of His day upside down and inside out. Instead of condemning sinners and praising those known for defending the law of Moses, He left the impression that judgment day would bring some of the biggest surprises of all (25:45–46). Then, in a stunning turn of events beginning with chapter 26, the unthinkable happens: Jesus allows Himself to be judged, condemned, and crucified.

    By His resurrection He shows that what He’s been saying all along is true. The kingdom of God is found in a different kind of King. His citizens are a different kind of people, whose joy and goodness are found in hearts changed by His Spirit and love.”

    Which Jesus do you follow?
    Which Jesus do you serve?
    If Ephesians says to imitate Christ
    Then why do you look so much like the world?

    Cause my Jesus bled and died
    He spent His time with thieves and liars
    He loved the poor and accosted the arrogant
    So which one do you want to be?

    Blessed are the poor in spirit
    Or do we pray to be blessed with the wealth of this land
    Blessed are they that hunger and thirst for righteousness
    Or do we ache for another taste of this world of shifting sand

    ‘Cause my Jesus bled and died for my sins
    He spent His time with thieves and sluts and liars
    He loved the poor and accosted the rich
    So which one do you want to be?

    Who is this that you follow
    This picture of the American dream
    If Jesus was here would you walk right by on the other side or fall down and worship at His holy feet

    Pretty blue eyes and curly brown hair and a clear complexion
    Is how you see Him as He dies for Your sins
    But the Word says He was battered and scarred
    Or did you miss that part
    Sometimes I doubt we’d recognize Him

    ‘Cause my Jesus bled and died
    He spent His time with thieves and the least of these
    He loved the poor and accosted the comfortable
    So which one do you want to be?

    ‘Cause my Jesus would never be accepted in my church
    The blood and dirt on His feet would stain the carpet
    But He reaches for the hurting and despised the proud
    I think He’d prefer Beale St. to the stained glass crowd
    And I know that He can hear me if I cry out loud

    I want to be like my Jesus!
    I want to be like my Jesus!

    Not a posterchild for American prosperity, but like my Jesus
    You see I’m tired of living for success and popularity
    I want to be like my Jesus but I’m not sure what that means to be like You Jesus
    ‘Cause You said to live like You, love like You but then You died for me
    Can I be like You Jesus?
    I want to be like my Jesus

    Songwriters: Todd Agnew

  271. poohpity says:

    It seems that Jesus makes us new means we no longer desire sin or the ways of the world but Him. If one takes away all the scars inflicted on us from life and look at everything in a rearranged way we see God’s merciful hand. Just like the flood God was merciful rather than continuing to watch people destroy themselves and others He put a stop to it. I guess it is in the eye of the beholder.

    The things that happen in life effect the development of our personalities but if all that is taken away and the real person that God knows we are comes out without all the garbage holding us back from being ourselves. People often act as they do to hide embarrassment, guilt and shame but if that is covered then a person can be more themselves, the one God knew as we were formed in our mother’s womb. He accepts us as we are and teaches us to do the same without peer pressure or the scars of life that often lead us to be someone we are not. What it seems that God does change is not who we are but what we do, the actions and the thoughts that can have evil intent.

    I have never read in scripture that God changes who we are but what we do and how we think about things. He gives us a different perspective about life.

  272. Beloved says:

    God is good

    I peter1:14 So you must live as God’s obedient children. Don’t slip back into your old ways of living to satisfy your own desires. You didn’t know any better then. 15 But now you must be holy in everything you do, just as God who chose you is holy. 16 For the Scriptures say, “You must be holy because I am holy.” 17 And remember that the heavenly Father to whom you pray has no favorites. He will judge or reward you according to what you do. So you must live in reverent fear of him during your time here as “temporary residents.”

    But He’s not “safe”.

  273. Beloved says:

    Change requires repentance.

  274. Beloved says:

    There are many good perspectives/therapeutic models out there today that provide for positive change and healthier living. But they have nothing to do with Gods ways. Wolves dressed up like Santa Clause.

  275. Beloved says:

    I’m not talking about things like prosthetics or medicine for chemical imbalances.

  276. street says:

    Ezekiel 36:26
    And I will give you a new heart, and I will put a new spirit in you. I will take out your stony, stubborn heart and give you a tender, responsive heart.

    Ezekiel 11:18-20
    18 When they come there, they will remove all its detestable things and all its abominations from it. 19 And I will give them one heart, and put a new spirit within them. And I will take the heart of stone out of their flesh and give them a heart of flesh, 20 that they may walk in My statutes and keep My ordinances and do them. Then they will be My people, and I shall be their God.

    Jeremiah 17:5
    Thus says the Lord, “Cursed is the man who trusts in mankind And makes flesh his strength, And whose heart turns away from the Lord.

    Romans 2:29
    But he is a Jew who is one inwardly; and circumcision is that which is of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the letter; and his praise is not from men, but from God.

    Matthew 9:17
    “And no one puts new wine into old wineskins. For the old skins would burst from the pressure, spilling the wine and ruining the skins. New wine is stored in new wineskins so that both are preserved.”

    12 I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2 And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

  277. Beloved says:

    John Piper on Romans 12:1

    So we stress that before Romans 12 is a call to live a merciful life, it is a call to live a worshipful life. Or better: In calling us to live a merciful life (built on the mercy of God in Christ), the aim is that it be a worshipful life. The aim of showing mercy is showing God. The aim of having bodies is to make the glory of God more visible. And he does not shine through our muscles and curves, but through our merciful behavior.

  278. street says:

    World Views
    only two world views
    the view from self
    the view in Christ
    God is light and in Him there is no darkness.
    living by law doesn’t work
    living by faith is the only other way

    what is the goal object and way of faith?
    it’s purpose it’s end and the way to get there?

    the way, the truth, the Life, only come from God, there is no other way and no other God. given a Helper.

    7 “Ask, and it will be given to you; seek, and you will find; knock, and it will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks it will be opened. 9 Or what man is there among you who, if his son asks for bread, will give him a stone? ……. 11 If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father who is in heaven give good things to those who ask Him!

  279. street says:

    Father who is in heaven give good things

    eternal things not temporal. things that there are no laws against. a Kingdom with a King. it’s difficult to relate to a king living in america. i remember in the Old Testament when a king died the future became uneasy like when herod hear of a King being born.

  280. Beloved says:


  281. street says:

    Isaiah 9:6
    For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

  282. Beloved says:

    ..we get a picture of how God views us..

    9…,for you are a chosen people. You are royal priests, a holy nation, God’s very own possession. As a result, you can show others the goodness of God, for he called you out of the darkness into his wonderful light.
    10“Once you had no identity as a people;
    now you are God’s people.
    Once you received no mercy;
    now you have received God’s mercy.”

  283. street says:

    thinking how the circumstances of job drew him closer to God, closer than he had ever been before. trusting in God, because he sees and understands God in light that was not perceived before, and withdrawing a complaint against Him was incredible.

    42 Then Job answered the Lord and said,

    “I know that You can do all things,
    And that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted.
    ‘Who is this that hides counsel without knowledge?’
    Therefore I have declared that which I did not understand,
    Things too wonderful for me, which I did not know.”
    ‘Hear, now, and I will speak;
    I will ask You, and You instruct me.’
    “I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear;
    But now my eye sees You;
    Therefore I retract,
    And I repent in dust and ashes.”

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