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The teacher writes four words on the blackboard, one over the other— defeat, deduct, defense, and detail.

“Class”, she says, “Let’s see if we can spend the next hour using these four words in a sentence.” Little Johnny says, “That’s easy,” walks up to the board and adds four more,

Defeat of Deduct went over Defense before Detail.

Johnny is a bright boy… :-) But what will he someday make of another word problem—a riddle that has far greater implications than to show how clever he is? “How, by adding any number of words, can he make sense out of all that follows when God describes himself to Moses as:

“Compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin—Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; [punishing] the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation” (Exodus 34;6-7)?

Imagine we are little Jonie. What do we see in those words? How can the God of Scripture expect us to make sense and a meaningful sentence out of words that seem to signal a God who promises to forgive parents while punishing their children and grandchildren?

Clue:? What if we added four words— As Genesis 3 shows

Imagine what would have happened if our first parents and their children had been allowed to live forever without any evidence that something had gone terribly wrong? Would anyone ever look back— without the pain of consequence— either our own choices— or of someone else in the gene pool of our humanity?

Would anyone look back in regret, or forward in hope?

Would any of us look up long enough to stake our life, and spend our love on a God who is “Compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin?


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289 Responses to “Riddles”

  1. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Mart. An appropriate title to Scripture, “Riddle”, as all of the seeming contradictions or as you like to call them “tensions” pose a problem in understanding what is being said, what God wants us to see and what He wants us to do with what we learn.

    Here we hear of a God who is slow to anger, yet gets angry, forgives wickedness, rebellion and sin yet killed off every living thing along with every human except those in the Ark because of wickedness, rebellion and sin.

    Instructed the Hebrew people to kill every man woman and child, even livestock and animals in their conquest of the “Holy Land”.

    A blueprint for future armies in their own conquests.

    Compassionate and gracious yet not letting the guilty go unpunished. Instead He punishes Himself through His own Son.

    Violence always the answer, always the solution.

    A riddle indeed.


  2. jeff1 says:

    A riddle that God has the answers to as He divides to conquer and save mankind.

    Facing a Task Unfinished

    “Facing a task unfinished
    That drives us to our knees
    A need that, undiminished
    Rebukes our slothful ease
    We, who rejoice to know Thee
    Renew before Thy throne
    The solemn pledge we owe Thee
    To go and make Thee known

    Where other lords beside Thee
    Hold their unhindered sway
    Where forces that defied Thee
    Defy Thee still today
    With none to heed their crying
    For life, and love, and light
    Unnumbered souls are dying
    And pass into the night

    We go to all the world
    With kingdom hope unfurled
    No other name has power to save
    But Jesus Christ The Lord

    We bear the torch that flaming
    Fell from the hands of those
    Who gave their lives proclaiming
    That Jesus died and rose
    Ours is the same commission
    The same glad message ours
    Fired by the same ambition
    To Thee we yield our powers

    We go to all the world
    With kingdom hope unfurled
    No other name has power to save
    But Jesus Christ The Lord

    O Father who sustained them
    O Spirit who inspired
    Saviour, whose love constrained them
    To toil with zeal untired
    From cowardice defend us
    From lethargy awake!
    Forth on Thine errands send us
    To labour for Thy sake

    We go to all the world
    With kingdom hope unfurled
    No other name has power to save
    But Jesus Christ The Lord

    We go to all the world
    His kingdom hope unfurled
    No other name has power to save
    But Jesus Christ The Lord”

  3. poohpity says:

    Little Johnny was so right as Steve shows in his comment. So many assumptions are put into place with out deductive reasoning and then people defend those assumptions without knowing any details or facts. Just as God’s statement can be misconstrued, misunderstood without all the facts.

    Although the first parents were shown compassion but they still suffered consequences of their behavior which has affected every generation after them. What if there was never a consequence then people will continue to repeat behaviors that bring harm to themselves and others which humanity has generation after generation.

    Experiencing pain opens our eyes that something needs to change without it nothing changes. If you did not burn your hand when you touched fire then you would continue to touch fire even though it was burning off your skin and melting your bones.

    How would we know we needed forgiveness or compassion?

  4. poohpity says:

    Maybe the four words of Genesis 3 could be deception, pride, blame and death.

  5. poohpity says:

    Because of that death it is reasonable to deduce the need to be born again.

  6. Beloved says:

    “I arise today through God’s strength to pilot me;
    God’s might to uphold me,
    God’s wisdom to guide me,
    God’s ear to hear me,
    God’s word to speak for me,
    God’s hand to guard me,
    God’s way to lie before me,
    God’s shield to protect me afar and anear, alone or in a multitude.”
    ― St Patrick

  7. street says:

    29 “Do you see how Ahab has humbled himself before Me? Because he has humbled himself before Me, I will not bring the evil in his days, but I will bring the evil upon his house in his son’s days.”

    17 When David saw the angel who was striking down the people, he said to the Lord, “I have sinned; I, the shepherd, have done wrong. These are but sheep. What have they done? Let your hand fall on me and my family.”

    18 On that day Gad went to David and said to him, “Go up and build an altar to the Lord on the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite.” 19 So David went up, as the Lord had commanded through Gad.

    2 You shall remember all the way which the Lord your God has led you in the wilderness these forty years, that He might humble you, testing you, to know what was in your heart, whether you would keep His commandments or not. 3 He humbled you and let you be hungry, and fed you with manna which you did not know, nor did your fathers know, that He might make you understand that man does not live by bread alone, but man lives by everything that proceeds out of the mouth of the Lord. 4 Your clothing did not wear out on you, nor did your foot swell these forty years.

  8. street says:

    6 “Moreover the Lord your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, so that you may live. 7 The Lord your God will inflict all these curses on your enemies and on those who hate you, who persecuted you. 8 And you shall again obey the Lord, and observe all His commandments which I command you today. 9 Then the Lord your God will [i]prosper you abundantly in all the work of your hand, in the offspring of your [k]body and in the offspring of your cattle and in the produce of your ground, for the Lord will again rejoice over you for good, just as He rejoiced over your fathers; 10 if you [o]obey the Lord your God to keep His commandments and His statutes which are written in this book of the law, if you turn to the Lord your God with all your heart and soul.

    11 “For this commandment which I command you today is not too difficult for you, nor is it out of reach. 12 It is not in heaven, that you should say, ‘Who will go up to heaven for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?’ 13 Nor is it beyond the sea, that you should say, ‘Who will cross the sea for us to get it for us and make us hear it, that we may observe it?’ 14 But the word is very near you, in your mouth and in your heart, that you may observe it.

  9. street says:

    Violence always the answer, always the solution.

    without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin.

    Hebrews 9:22
    In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.

    Hebrews 12:4
    In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.

    Isaiah 43:25
    “I, even I, am he who blots out your transgressions, for my own sake, and remembers your sins no more.

    For you will spread out to the right and to the left;
    your descendants will dispossess nations
    and settle in their desolate cities.
    “Do not be afraid; you will not be put to shame.
    Do not fear disgrace; you will not be humiliated.
    You will forget the shame of your youth
    and remember no more the reproach of your widowhood.
    For your Maker is your husband—
    the Lord Almighty is his name—
    the Holy One of Israel is your Redeemer;
    he is called the God of all the earth.

    we know the Lamb Who takes away our sins and the sins of the world. happy are they when He calls them.

    Galatians 5:13
    [ Life by the Spirit ] You, my brothers and sisters, were called to be free. But do not use your freedom to indulge the flesh; rather, serve one another humbly in love.

  10. street says:

    “Compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin—Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; [punishing] the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation” (Exodus 34;6-7)?

    if our sins are forgiven in Christ, these verse are talking about two different families. wheat and tars.
    yes the ripple effect of sin on the sea of man is real and God is still Sovereign, should we continue to sin? NO! God will not overlook sin, but saves some by the cross of Christ.

    thinking about david in the gate. the gate was the place of judgment. david had not been there in awhile till absolmn was killed. Jesus said He is the gate, the place of judgment. david had been restored and started functioning properly again. i do not think it was easy for him.

    Psalm 139
    You have searched me, Lord,
    and you know me.
    You know when I sit and when I rise;
    you perceive my thoughts from afar.
    You discern my going out and my lying down;
    you are familiar with all my ways.
    Before a word is on my tongue
    you, Lord, know it completely.
    You hem me in behind and before,
    and you lay your hand upon me.
    Such knowledge is too wonderful for me,
    too lofty for me to attain.

    Where can I go from your Spirit?
    Where can I flee from your presence?
    If I go up to the heavens, you are there;
    if I make my bed in the depths, you are there.
    If I rise on the wings of the dawn,
    if I settle on the far side of the sea,
    even there your hand will guide me,
    your right hand will hold me fast.
    If I say, “Surely the darkness will hide me
    and the light become night around me,”
    even the darkness will not be dark to you;
    the night will shine like the day,
    for darkness is as light to you.
    For you created my inmost being;
    you knit me together in my mother’s womb.
    I praise you because I am fearfully and wonderfully made;
    your works are wonderful,
    I know that full well.
    My frame was not hidden from you
    when I was made in the secret place,
    when I was woven together in the depths of the earth.
    Your eyes saw my unformed body;
    all the days ordained for me were written in your book
    before one of them came to be.
    How precious to me are your thoughts,[a] God!
    How vast is the sum of them!
    Were I to count them,
    they would outnumber the grains of sand—
    when I awake, I am still with you.
    If only you, God, would slay the wicked!
    Away from me, you who are bloodthirsty!
    They speak of you with evil intent;
    your adversaries misuse your name.
    Do I not hate those who hate you, Lord,
    and abhor those who are in rebellion against you?
    I have nothing but hatred for them;
    I count them my enemies.
    Search me, God, and know my heart;
    test me and know my anxious thoughts.
    See if there is any offensive way in me,
    and lead me in the way everlasting.

  11. foreverblessed says:

    Last weekend I heard a sermon on God of Love God of judgment, by Michael Ramsden, he talks about Jonah, citing htese very words about the character of God.
    ( As a side-note he also said:Jonah as being the oldest written booken of the bible, I didn’t know that) but that we as humans deep down inside, we want our enemies to suffer:
    Nothing mercy—
    Jonah didn’t want Nineveh to repent.
    It is amazing, that Jonah gets angry at God:
    “But to Jonah this seemed very wrong, and he became angry. 2 He prayed to the Lord, “Isn’t this what I said, Lord, when I was still at home? That is what I tried to forestall by fleeing to Tarshish. I knew that you are a gracious and compassionate God, slow to anger and abounding in love, a God who relents from sending calamity. 3 Now, Lord, take away my life, for it is better for me to die than to live.””

    I could easily say, I am not like that!
    But as Jeff often says, citing CS Lewis, it is easy to forgive until you have something to forgive.

    OK, but Mart wants us to look at another point:
    What if there were no consequences to wrong behavior, what would we look like as humans?

  12. SFDBWV says:

    This subject touches at the heart of the biggest question we may pose; Why? What is this life all about?

    Often I use the stark difference between light and dark to explain that you can’t fully appreciate one without the other.

    Is it possible to “know” evil without “knowing” good?

    Was it that God did not want Adam and Eve to know right from wrong, or that He insisted on unquestioned obedience?

    Or is something else afoot?

    Whereas almost the last words uttered in Revelation warn us of adding words to the Book, everything written from Genesis to Revelation is left open to adding our own thoughts and speculation to it.

    If we are to believe God is all knowing, all powerful, and everywhere at once it is difficult then to believe that He did not know exactly what would happen in the events given in the Garden of Eden.

    That man and woman would not be complete without knowing the difference between good and evil and by their very act of disobedience choose evil over good. And by doing so suffer the consequences of it.

    There seems still to be no better classroom then life itself.

    It seems almost as if all of this is about showing God to be perfect in Love toward His creation. Yet who is it He has to prove Himself to?

    If, as it is written, God is no respecter of man, why would God care what man thinks of Him?

    If it is some argument between God and Satan, why would a created being such as Satan sway such influence with God that God would have to prove anything to Him? By allowing such suffering calamity and evil to exist?

    Yet here we are, all children of Adam and Eve suffering in a world filled with violence, heartache, and pain so that we know the consequences of disobedience with God.

    Looking beyond this life to an afterlife void of evil and evil’s influences. A life God offers through His Son.

    Small wonder people think suicide is better than life in a world of pain, disappointment and suffering.

    Yet here we are, told to stand fast, a witness for Him in the heat of battle and against all the darkness this world has to offer.
    Our choice to do so pleasing Him and assuring our place with Him.

    A line drawn in the sand and our decision as to which side of the line we stand in, also knowing the consequences of our choice.


  13. jeff1 says:

    Just listening to the radio this morning and heard the news that three teenagers have died at a ‘stampede’ at a St Patrick’s night disco in a town not very far from me.

    I am thinking today of when my 16 year old son went to a school disco and one of his classmates died after consuming too much alcohol and after getting thrown out of the premises he wandered out in front of a car and was killed.

    If I am looking at consequences to wrong behaviour here is a tragic example.

    Who should get the blame?

    1. the teenagers for attending the disco.
    2. the parents who allowed their teenagers to attend the disco.
    3. the owner of the premises who allowed too many into the disco.
    4. the police for allowing licensing for such events.

    There is always an inquest after the tragic events but that doesn’t stop them recurring because we are all human and flawed, teenagers, parents, premise owners, police authorities.

    So God uses suffering to make us better human beings but what when I have seen so much suffering that it doesn’t touch me anymore because at my age all I have are memories of tragedies of people’s wrong actions.

    When did I stop being human?

  14. SFDBWV says:

    Very well said Viv. What good does it do us when we become numb and cynical to all the pain in the world?

    Being numb as a way of protecting ourselves from the pain of caring.

    The very Islamic people who made their way to New Zealand hoped that a country that seemed far removed from the rest of the world would be a safe place to live. Found out that there is nowhere in this world to hide from evil.

    Our hope isn’t in this world as the history of this world is filled with violence by man and nature alike.

    Our God promises a world where the lion will lay down with the lamb and little children will be safe from the bite of a snake. Where there are no more tears.

    The problem is that we have to walk through this world in order to get to that one. This one being filled with pitfalls and dangers, our protection being able to recognize them and avoid them when we can.

    Snow this morning, a little bothersome for the returning Robins.


  15. poohpity says:

    I often wonder why those with a sick, warped, pessimistic view of God would want to have a relationship with Him? Or do they and use that sick, warped, pessimistic view as the reason they don’t ever answer that knock to really get to know the details we are given of Him.

    It seems those who do know Him, rejoice in all that He has done, is doing and is going to do. They experience a joy and peace even when circumstances are not at their finest or are very hard they know God has it all in His powerful, mighty hands. They know that real truth, justice, knowledge, power are found in God and it is mankind by way of the anti-God that tries to destroy what was meant to be a intimate relationship between the creation and their Creator. It would seem the best way to show mankind the Creator’s love was to give them free will so they could make their own choices because no one can force someone else to love them it is a matter of choice.

    Just as we give our children while they are reaching maturity the ability to start making choices on their own. We stop making every choice for them after we have taught them right from wrong, we start that soon after they have reached two when they start saying no, let choice begin.

    What makes us want to assign blame when it is a person or a group of people who makes a choice to do wrong when the whole time they could have chosen a better way? Or they were living the perfect life only to make a choice to go against everything good and sound advise as with Adam and Eve?

    forever, you may find on the oldest book in the bible being Job who was born way before Moses who wrote the first five books.

  16. poohpity says:

    Here is a riddle that may be hard to understand especially for those who try and control everything and everybody in their lives. God is in control but does not control.

  17. street says:

    Matthew 13:35
    So was fulfilled what was spoken through the prophet: “I will open my mouth in parables, I will utter things hidden since the creation of the world.”

    Romans 8:18-20
    18 I consider that our present sufferings are not worth comparing with the glory that will be revealed in us. 19 For the creation waits in eager expectation for the children of God to be revealed. 20 For the creation was subjected to frustration, not by its own choice, but by the will of the one who subjected it, in hope

    it would seem frustration and futility are the norm here….then He speaks of hope.

    thinking about the Sovereignty of God. that really gets our dander up the most. i smile now, but not always, anger an ever present threat to peace. i think a lot of suffering is for the purpose of crying, crying out to God. there is a song that says quit your crying it’s a sign of the times. the devil would like nothing more than for us to be silent. nothing more than an unwanted salesman. some cry out to neighbors politicians dictators and some cry out to God.
    18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see. a trustworthy faithfulness, a sure hope, and eternal love in a futile temporary world. we wanted to be like God, but we were and now we are not. brought near by the blood of Christ. forgive us Lord for the violence we have done to your image and Name. please don’t delay or deceive us. give us circumcised heart of flesh and not of stone. circumcised hearts of flesh hurt. to be conformed to the image of His Son.

    4 Then the angel who talked with me returned and woke me up, like someone awakened from sleep. 2 He asked me, “What do you see?”

    I answered, “I see a solid gold lampstand with a bowl at the top and seven lamps on it, with seven channels to the lamps. 3 Also there are two olive trees by it, one on the right of the bowl and the other on its left.”

    4 I asked the angel who talked with me, “What are these, my lord?”

    5 He answered, “Do you not know what these are?”

    “No, my lord,” I replied.

    6 So he said to me, “This is the word of the Lord to Zerubbabel: ‘Not by might nor by power, but by my Spirit,’ says the Lord Almighty.

    7 “What are you, mighty mountain? Before Zerubbabel you will become level ground. Then he will bring out the capstone to shouts of ‘God bless it! God bless it!’”

    8 Then the word of the Lord came to me: 9 “The hands of Zerubbabel have laid the foundation of this temple; his hands will also complete it. Then you will know that the Lord Almighty has sent me to you.

    10 “Who dares despise the day of small things, since the seven eyes of the Lord that range throughout the earth will rejoice when they see the chosen capstone in the hand of Zerubbabel?”

    11 Then I asked the angel, “What are these two olive trees on the right and the left of the lampstand?”

    12 Again I asked him, “What are these two olive branches beside the two gold pipes that pour out golden oil?”

    13 He replied, “Do you not know what these are?”

    “No, my lord,” I said.

    14 So he said, “These are the two who are anointed to serve the Lord of all the earth.”

  18. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    March 18, 2019 at 8:41 am

    I often wonder why those with a sick, warped, pessimistic view of God would want to have a relationship with Him? Or do they and use that sick, warped, pessimistic view as the reason they don’t ever answer that knock to really get to know the details we are given of Him.

    My sick, warped, pessimistic view is of this world because I don’t make excuses when it comes to blame but except that it is because of my/our weaknesses that the world is messed up.

    I don’t need to know God to trust Him as I have been trusting Him all my life because I believe He is a just, caring, merciful God and why this world looks nothing like Him.

  19. poohpity says:

    Viv, I did not say a sick, warped, pessimistic view of the world but of God!!! You said yourself that you thought of God as harsh and that is why you liked Jesus better not realizing that they are one in the same.

  20. poohpity says:

    I saw this today and thought everyone may enjoy from Coach Wooden his seven point creed to live by;

    1. Be True to Yourself. Are you living someone else’s plan for your life? Nothing can stifle creativity like conformity and uniformity. What’s “your thing” – your unique ability? Nobody is here by accident. Everybody was placed on earth for a purpose. Be comfortable in your own skin and chase your dream.

    2. Make each day your masterpiece. It almost sounds like a cliché, but everybody has the same amount of time each day (24 hours, 1440 minutes). Do you treat it like a rare gift? On average, over 150,000 people die every day. Don’t take these hours for granted. The late Bil Keane, creator of the Family Circus cartoon, once poignantly observed, “Yesterday is history, tomorrow is mystery – but today is a gift, that’s why we call it ‘the present.’” Don’t waste the day.

    3. Never leave until tomorrow what can be done today. Charles Dickens once called procrastination the “thief of time” – and he was right. We so often think tomorrow is going to be an extension of today, but it’s usually not. Rather than treat time like a blank check, think about it in finite terms – because today is all we’ve got.

    4. Help others. Narcissism is destructive. Care about others and practice blessed self-forgetfulness. As Dr. Tim Keller says, “Don’t think less of yourself – just think about yourself less.” Call a friend, visit someone in the hospital, pick up trash in your neighborhood or volunteer in your community.

    5. Drink deeply from good books, especially the Bible. The late pastor Dr. Adrian Rogers used to say, “What goes down in the well comes up in the bucket.” Be mindful of what you’re reading and watching. The apostle Paul probably put it best of all when he advised, “Whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable – if anything is excellent or praiseworthy – think about such things and the God of peace will be with you.”

    6. Study friendship and make it a fine art. It’s been said we become the product of the five people we spend the most time with. If that’s the case, are you picking your friends or letting your friends pick you? The popular writer C.S. Lewis wrote about the origin of enjoyable company. “Friendship … is born at the moment,” Lewis noted, “when one man says to another ‘What! You too? I thought that no one but myself . . .’” If you want to have good friends, take the time to be a good friend.

    7. Pray for guidance and count and give thanks for your blessings every day. Cultivating a discipline of prayer and a spirit of gratitude will transform your life. It was Albert Einstein who once opined, “There are only two ways to live your life: as though nothing is a miracle, or as though everything is a miracle.” We are living in an age of daily miracles and many of us don’t even realize it.

  21. poohpity says:

    Viv, another thing is people blame other people for their own hate, anger, hostility, bitterness but we are given a choice through Jesus to forgive, show mercy and grace. People blame people for their own feelings when we are each responsible for how we feel, no one crawls up inside of us and makes us feel anything. We can either react to situations or respond to them with what we are given through the Holy Spirit living in us.

  22. poohpity says:

    “Defeat of Deduct went over Defense before Detail.”

  23. Beloved says:

    Quack, quack. Sorry, I couldn’t resist!

  24. Beloved says:

    Friends I am very sad. (Thanks for the laugh mart, I needed it!)
    My friend with cancer died a few days ago, before she died she cancelled the funeral service she had planned with her favorite hymns. She snapped at me a couple weeks ago when I tried to encourage her in the LORD. My heart is so heavy. On the other hand, a dear friend in the LORD, age 89, (the one who walked 8 blocks with a walker to church) fell the other day and died with a brain bleed. I’m rejoicing because I know she’s with Jesus! She mentored me for years. It’s because of her trust in and constant communication with Jesus I learned to trust Him too. Such a contrast between my two friends. The two edged sword is real. God is good, bless His holy Name.

  25. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    March 18, 2019 at 10:43 am

    Viv, I did not say a sick, warped, pessimistic view of the world but of God!!! You said yourself that you thought of God as harsh and that is why you liked Jesus better not realizing that they are one in the same.

    I know you didn’t, it is I who am saying it, and no, I did not say God was harsh but that God has a right to be angry but I don’t believe He stays angry.

    God has a right to be angry with the evil in the world as that what makes Him a just God and why we who trust Him take a stand against it.

  26. poohpity says:

    Viv, Forgive me I could have sworn you said in the past that you looked at God as a God of wrath but looked to Jesus because of His love. I sure did not mean to misquote or misunderstand you and I apologize. It is horrible when people misquote and misunderstand you, isn’t it? ;-) I know it all to well.

    I would also like to bring to your attention there is all kinds of good, kind, noteworthy stuff being done around the world much more than bad but the sad thing is it is the bad that makes the news and that people are drawn to, to base their perceptions on sadly.

  27. phpatato says:

    I am so sorry, Joyce. I pray God’s peace and comfort to surround you and their families and friends, during this sad time. Rest in His love.

    Pat xo

  28. Beloved says:

    Thank you Pat. xo

  29. poohpity says:

    The stand God asks us to make against evil is to return good for evil. Not so easy to do without His help is it?

  30. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, I pray that God may comfort you, that He will comfort you!
    I am with you, as I could say that, me being only human! May you feel God’s love around you!

  31. Beloved says:

    8 The Lord is merciful and gracious,
    slow to anger and abounding in steadfast love.

    9 He will not always chide,
    nor will he keep his anger forever.

    10 He does not deal with us according to our sins,
    nor repay us according to our iniquities.
    11 For as high as the heavens are above the earth,
    so great is his steadfast love toward those who fear him;
    12 as far as the east is from the west,
    so far does he remove our transgressions from us.
    13 As a father shows compassion to his *children*,
    so the Lord shows compassion to those who fear him.

    Barnes’ Notes on the Bible

    He will not always chide – Rebuke; contend; strive; for so the Hebrew word means. He will not always contend with people, or manifest his displeasure. See the notes at Isaiah 57:16; notes at Psalm 78:38-39. This implies that he may chide or rebuke his people, but that this will not be forever. He will punish them; he will manifest his displeasure at their sins; he will show that he does not approve of their course, but he will show that he “loves them,” and does not seek their ruin.

  32. Beloved says:

    Thank you forever!

  33. jeff1 says:

    I take refuge in ‘Jesus’ rather than listening to the conflicting beliefs on God because I believe it is when I stop focusing on Jesus that I get anxious about God’s anger.

    The church I was baptised into is a Christ focused church so it has been my teaching.

    I do try to focus on the goodness in the world but I have seen too much ugliness to know that it exists.

    As I see it we fight the good fight knowing that God has overcome the world.

  34. phpatato says:


    No sightings of any robins yet but I did read that 2 were sighted in Toronto On, two days ago. I am scanning the yard several times a day now. It shouldn’t be long before I see one or two. I did have a handful of red-winged blackbirds stop by a couple of days ago. Haven’t seen them since though. There are patches of grass under the canopy of the spruce trees but the open parts of the yard that were prone to winds still have 4ft snow drifts but is melting. 12 hour daylight hours now. The waxing Gibbous is 94% illuminated and as you know….I love the month of March!!! Sap has just started to run for the 2019 maple syrup season. :-)

    Pat xo

  35. SFDBWV says:

    Joyce I join with others in sympathy for you and the families of your friends. I ask for peace for you and them.

    News of someone’s death always reminds me of living through the pain of the death of my own loved ones.

    Joyce mentioned her friend cancelling out her funeral plans. I always tell people that once you are dead you don’t get to make any more decisions regarding you, someone else will.

    She also mentioned her friend snapping at her after she offered some encouragement through the Lord.

    How well I have learned over the years that, though well intended, such encouragements will most often evoke some resentment even anger, so it is best sometimes to say nothing and just listen to your friends complaints.

    Also it has been my observation that logic has little place in religion. In fact religion of any kind is looked at as illogical to the intellectual mind.

    My own mother died from a cerebral hemorrhage. Before she slipped into a coma the last two things she told me were that “this wasn’t supposed to happen” and “I’m so sorry Steve”

    She thought she and God had her last days planned out and she knew the pain her death would have on me. Her last conscious thoughts were of God and me.

    I see every day the struggle between belief and disappointment as Matt prays for his friend Jennifer who is dealing with breast cancer and yet believes God has abandoned him to his own suffering.

    He is angry at God.

    It makes sense logically if you believe yet can’t see the evidence or comfort of it. Faith in God like love can look very illogical.

    I once told of the idea that Chuck Missler had suggested that the reason Adam joined in eating the forbidden fruit after Eve had was because he loved her so much, he would rather join her in her separation from God then see her cast out alone apart from he and God both.

    The basis for that reasoning comes from 1Timothy 2:14 KJV as Adam knew what he was doing and it was very illogical to disobey God, yet he was willing to for some reason. I hope it was for love.

    After all God loves man so much He too was willing to take on all the sin of the world so that man was not lost from Him forever also.

    18 degrees and a partially starry sky.


  36. jeff1 says:

    Love Lifted Me

    I was sinking deep in sin, far from the peaceful shore
    Very deeply stained within, sinking to rise no more
    But the Master of the sea, heard my despairing cry
    From the waters lifted me, now safe am I

    Love lifted me! Love lifted me!
    When nothing else could help
    Love lifted me!

    Love lifted me! Love lifted me!
    When nothing else could help
    Love lifted me!

    All my heart to Him I give, ever to Him I’ll cling
    In His blessèd presence live, ever His praises sing
    Love so mighty and so true, merits my soul’s best songs
    Faithful, loving service too, to Him belongs

    Love lifted me! Love lifted me!
    When nothing else could help
    Love lifted me!

    Love lifted me! Love lifted me!
    When nothing else could help
    Love lifted me!

    When nothing else could help
    Love lifted me!

  37. poohpity says:

    Yes it does seem that God said He will punish the children for the sin of their parents but what if those children repeat the same sin that their parent do, did and that is what makes the punishment go from generation to generation. How something seems may not be the way it really is. Proverbs 3:5

  38. SFDBWV says:

    Pat the Robin count increases now every day, and even though we had about 2 inches of snow yesterday most of it melted away under a clear sunny afternoon.

    I will be very happy to see the red winged blackbirds gone for the summer as they show up here on my feeder by the dozens at a time and have a voracious appetite.

    I clean out and keep every container of “Ontario Pure Maple Syrup” you send as each is special and quite unique here in my part of the world.

    Thank you.

    March is in itself a riddle weather wise, as some of our deepest snow falls occur in March. They soon melt, but cause quite a lot of trouble for the few days they impact. Hope that this year the deep snow days are behind us, as I am ready for Spring.

    Love to you and yours also


  39. poohpity says:

    Adam was right beside Eve when she took the fruit wouldn’t it have been the loving God and her thing to do by just reaching up and telling her, no, let’s eat from all the other varieties of fruit we were blessed with instead of the one who were told not to. BUT just like many today the desire to be god rather than being who we are and let God be God has ravaged mankind still to this day.

    Did we have God in mind before a tragedy even happens? Have we ignored all the warnings about how to live and then when something happens blame God for it? Have we been grateful for all the rest of the varieties of fruit and walked away from that which we are told would bring sorrow? There are many things that look pleasing for a moment but do we think or consider past the moment and wonder how it will effect the future?

  40. poohpity says:

    Normally how one’s relationship with God is before anything bad happens will manifest itself in how we deal with it during and after.

  41. poohpity says:

    Steve, I know you may not read this but in case you do from this side of listening to you over the years and heard tell of all the ways Matt has overcome and has had a great number of accomplishments since his accident when you were just praying for his survival at that time, I have seldom heard you give God any praise or glory. God may not have answered everything that was prayed for yet but He has given y’all many miracles all the same. They have just come in smaller ways. If Matt has not heard you give praise to God for even the smaller things along this recovery journey then would it not figure that Matt does not see them as gifts from God but find ways to be angry with Him instead?

    I know it may sound weird but even your heart attack was a gift because it lead to Matt losing weight from almost 400 pounds to what he is now. Everything is like one step leading to another. I can see God’s hand in your life that maybe sometimes one can take for granted the smaller things when we are in the midst of life but with hindsight we can count all the blessings.

  42. jeff1 says:

    It is God who is faithful as when bad stuff happened I ran from God but He drew me back to Himself in ways I did not see coming.

    Everybody needs a little help sometime
    No one stands alone
    Makes no difference if you’re just a child like me
    Or a king upon a throne
    For there are no exceptions
    We all stand in the line
    Everybody needs a friend
    Let me tell you of mine

    He’s my forever friend
    My leave-me-never friend
    From darkest night to rainbow’s end
    He’s my forever friend
    Even when I turn away He cares for me
    His love no one can shake
    Even as I walk away He’s by my side
    With every breath I take
    And sometimes I forget Him
    My halo fails to shine
    Sometimes I’m not His friend
    But He is always mine

    If you still don’t know the one I’m talking of
    I think it’s time you knew
    Long ago and far away upon a cross
    My friend died for you
    So if you’d like to meet Him
    And don’t know what to do
    Ask my friend into you heart
    And He’ll be your friend too

    He’s My Forever Friend

  43. foreverblessed says:

    He is my forever Friend!

  44. poohpity says:

    I used to cry every morning as I dropped my kinds off at day care because the teachers at day care often did things I was angry with. So I went through 6 different day care centers until I had to have surgery on my first hip replacement which was a blessing so I could stay home with my kids rather than leave them in day care from 7am till almost 6pm. Their behavior was becoming horrible my oldest even got kicked out of summer camp which was a direct result of acting out. They did not have the communication skills to say what was bothering them but their behavior was a sure sign.

    So it was one surgery after another which consisted of 5 hip, 2 knee and three other surgeries between his fourth grade and graduation(97-13). But I got to stay home, take them to their sports, to church during the week and I was their parent rather than a day care, I praised God all through that because He made a way even if there was a little suffering I had to endure but I endured it with the presence of God right there beside me holding me up.

    Sometimes things can look horrible but when we see the hand of God in it all it gives hope and courage to continue and overcome many obstacles with praise filling our hearts.

  45. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, what happened to the advice you are always giving that we should only listen to God or is it all right when it is you playing God.

    For someone who doesn’t make judgements I would say that you seem to have made an exception in Steve’s case.

    I hope that Steve does not read your post and you should be ashamed that you ever wrote it as you have no right to blame Steve for Matthew’s view of God.

    It’s disgraceful what you are implying as it is much more likely that it is Matthew’s desire to be well again (as he was before) makes him angry with God.

    I think you should keep your conclusions to yourself especially since its being critical of someone whose care and dedication goes way beyond you or my understanding.

  46. poohpity says:

    Again Viv, I do not know where you think I said that or that I have ever thought that??????? The rest of what you wrote from your perspective was also totally wrong with the message to Steve. I was not blaming him for anything I was simply saying that I have watched as God has done miracle after miracle in their life but when Steve tell us of the things that Matt has accomplished I have not often heard him give praise to God. If that is how you understood what I said I can see why you do not read the bible because it would all just get twisted up in understanding rather than what is actually said. Maybe everything you wrote was in a judgemental attitude so that may be why you saw that in me because it is how you are implying, jumping to conclusions and assuming which you accomplished all of those.

    I have much respect for Steve as I always have had and what he has done and continues to do for his son and if you gleaned anything other than that from what I wrote, then you are really totally wrong.

  47. poohpity says:

    Mart asked, “How do we read?” “Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; [punishing] the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation” (Exodus 34:6-7)?

    If we continue on, which is what the four added words implies from little johnny, we find in Deuteronomy 24:16 NLT.

  48. Beloved says:

    The four words Johnny added implied nothing except that the ducks feet went over the fence before it’s tail did. Quack quack quack :-)

  49. poohpity says:

    oh by the way Viv, I also said it is hard when you are in the middle of living life to see all the changes because they come slowly but for someone on the outside looking in, as I am, I can see all the wonderful changes and growth. I have known and talked to Steve, Glenna, Matt and Fred for over ten years now and have watched how Matt has been able to accomplish more and more that maybe right after his accident Steve did not think possible would happen but has nonetheless.

  50. Beloved says:

    See how easily we can be deceived?

  51. poohpity says:

    Yep Joyce that is exactly what the words of Johnny implied, lol. Brilliant deduction!

  52. poohpity says:

    Just because one tells lies and is deceitful does not mean others are Joyce.

  53. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    March 19, 2019 at 8:45 am

    If Matt has not heard you give praise to God for even the smaller things along this recovery journey then would it not figure that Matt does not see them as gifts from God but find ways to be angry with Him instead?

    These are your words, Pooh, not mine, blaming Steve for Matthew’s feelings towards God.

    Your words, conclusions and your assumptions as you see and not as I see and why post them if otherwise.

    What is your motives?

  54. phpatato says:

    Pooh you talk too much! Waaaay too much!!!

    Jeff – just a hint = there’s a full moon rising. It is no coincidence that when it rises, her comments become more and more vile, more and more judgmental and well, they’re just downright disgusting. I agree with many many others who have said, if we starve her of the oxygen she needs to thrive, her sails will deflate. In other words, if we take the microphone away, she’ll only be able to hear herself talk.

    Pooh said…..I was simply saying that I have watched as God has done miracle after miracle in their life but when Steve tell us of the things that Matt has accomplished I have not often heard him give praise to God…..

    You mean much like us? We have watched as you have comment after comment oozing with vile, disgusting, completely uncalled for opinions but when we call you on them, we have never ever once heard you say sorry.

    I am positive that you think that if you got off your high horse to say sorry for the unkind things you’ve said, your tongue will shrivel up and your teeth will fall out.

  55. poohpity says:

    Viv, are your feelings towards God from your dad? Most often it is from our parents and their faith that point us to God, read Our Daily Bread for today.

    Pat, you have the nerve to say what I say is vile, disgusting, completely uncalled for opinions just read what you wrote. That is like the pot calling the kettle black. Like I have said many time in the past as does the bible that people see in others what they themselves are guilty of. When have I ever offered to each of you my opinion of you as you do me all the time? Do I call y’all names or falsely accuse you of things that I know nothing about? Oops yes I have I called y’all a mob and a gang bent on destroying with your group think and mob mentality. Following the leader right over the cliff into destruction rather than leading people to the Lord to be kind, gracious and loving towards your neighbor.

  56. poohpity says:

    What each of you write about me is exactly how you are but to blind to see that but sure do put your glasses on when it comes to seeing others.

  57. Beloved says:

    S T O P IT!

  58. Beloved says:

    Thinking if there were no punishment for sin, ours and our children’s children, there would be no need for a Savior. The Law showed us our sin, that we could not ever be perfect in Gods eyes, being a righteous, Holy God. Could it be that the Law-along with the sins proclaimed as such and carrying on generation after generation—is a gift? Would we need/want a Mediator if we proclaimed, like Lucifer, “I will be like God”, as he so tempted our first parents?. Mercy mercy mercy is what I see. We all fall from the same old tree.

  59. SFDBWV says:

    Good afternoon everyone. Here is how things are here.

    I rarely if ever say anything unless I am inspired to do so. My inspiration comes from the Holy Spirit who uses my comments for various reasons.

    Some are personal, some are more technical and some are enlightening, meant to help us all think about what has been said.

    After my posting, pooh will have 3 or 6 comments meant to discredit whatever I have said as well as being insulting, demeaning and derogatory.

    Then what ever message God may have sent you all through me, gets forgot and left behind in a blaze of remarks all about pooh.

    Pooh’s work accomplished.

    I do so thank each and every one of you that take up my defense and expose her. However nothing will ever change here unless she no longer gets everyone’s attention.

    Whenever anyone of us puts up a good message tell that person that it is a good thought and discuss it. Expand on Mart’s message through whatever it is we share and however we may expand on it.

    Pooh is going to attack every one of us and whenever our message is a good one she will work harder to distract you from it.

    That’s what she does that’s who she is. Nothing is going to change her, nothing.

    I try and not read her comments when I know what’s coming, but since this explosion of comments has occurred I have looked.

    Let me just say she is talking out of her “deleted” and is wrong about her assumptions concerning me.

    Please enjoy each other in fellowship and just ignore her.

    Let God deal with her.

    As for now, Matt and I are off to the store and Burger King.


  60. Beloved says:

    I heard an old, old story, how a Savior came from glory (how He gave His life)
    How He gave His life on Calvary to save a wretch like me
    I heard about His groaning, (of His blood’s atoning) of His precious blood’s atoning
    Then I repented (repented) of my sins (repented of my sins) and won the victory
    Oh victory in Jesus (victory in Jesus), my Savior (my Savior) forever (forever)
    He sought me and He bought me with His redeeming blood (bought me with His blood)
    He loved me ‘ere I knew Him and all my love is due Him
    He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood
    I heard about His healing, of His cleansing power revealing
    How He made the lame to walk again and caused the blind to see
    And then I cried, ”
    Dear Jesus, come and heal my broken spirit”
    I then obeyed His blest command and gained the victory
    Repeat The flood…
    I heard about a mansion He has built for me in glory
    And I heard about the street of gold beyond the crystal sea (beyond the crystal sea)
    About the angels singing (the angels are singing) and the old redemption story
    Oh and some sweet day I’ll sing up there the song of victory
    Repeat He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood
    He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood
    I’ve got a victory in Jesus
    You’ve got a victory in Jesus.

  61. Beloved says:

    Would any of us look up long enough to stake our life, and spend our love on a God who is “Compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin?

    Oh Yes I do! But it didn’t come from me, heaven knows my heart is full of deception, lies murder and all sorts of evil, yet God chose before the world began to redeem me and pour out His own blood to save me from years- generations even of wickedness and pure evil. “Christ died for the ungodly..”

  62. Beloved says:

    Holman Christian Standard Bible
    For while we were still helpless, at the appointed moment, Christ died for the ungodly. Romans 5,6

  63. jeff1 says:

    phpatato says:
    March 19, 2019 at 10:49 am

    Thank you for the reminder, Pat, and you too Steve as I should learn not to get involved.

    You are so patient Steve and wise in seeing through her and I must heed your advice.

  64. street says:

    Then I repented (repented) of my sins (repented of my sins) and won the victory

    Would any of us look up long enough to stake our life, and spend our love on a God who is “Compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin?

    thinking of the serpent on a stake.
    all they had to do to live was turn and look at it.

  65. street says:

    The teacher writes four words on the blackboard, one over the other— defeat, deduct, defense, and detail.

    defeat sin and death
    deduct sin and deduct that this grace i am receiving!
    not judgment at present? hope!
    defense defended by love by His unmerited favor.
    detail questions and questions
    stilled by trust.

    a new love.

    so many times lost love.

    Psalm 78:32
    In spite of all this they still sinned And did not believe in His wonderful works.

    John 6: 28 Therefore they said to Him, “What shall we do, so that we may work the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.” 30 So they said to Him, “What then do You do for a sign, so that we may see, and believe You? What work do You perform?

    John 1:29
    The next day he *saw Jesus coming to him and *said, “Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!

  66. Beloved says:

    Deduct, repent. Repent caught my attention also when I posted the song.

  67. mtman says:

    Spot on Steve…Well said.

  68. foreverblessed says:

    So true:

    thinking of the serpent on a stake.
    all they had to do to live was turn and look at it.

    We look to Jesus, on the Cross, everything is changed, such a big thing happens on the Cross,
    Everything bad given to Jesus, is changed into beautiful
    new life.
    Oh what a miracle working Cross, I believe in it!

    With God all things are possible!

  69. street says:

    you know forever as i posted that, then there’s that messiness that martin luther had to deal with. the book of James! 1 John helps clarify. seems there is a Spirit involved with yielding to a cross.

  70. SFDBWV says:

    It’s funny, I can always remember the feeling I got when young and first made the connection between the serpent’s image on the staff and the cross. I thought wow that is neat.

    Many more wow moments have brought me to where I am today, and I hope they continue to “wow” me. I love that connected feeling.

    Matthew and I had a pleasant outing yesterday, but are still tired from it. We need now to just relax until time for his exercises.

    I was trying to figure out the picture Mart has provided. Can anyone help me? I don’t understand what is going on there. Maybe that in itself is a “riddle”?

    Blessings to all of you today. 18 degrees f and a little light fog under a big bright moon.


  71. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    March 19, 2019 at 11:09 am

    Viv, are your feelings towards God from your dad? Most often it is from our parents and their faith that point us to God, read Our Daily Bread for today.

    That is your belief, Pooh, but my mum never knew her dad, and, her mum was not welcomed in the church back in her day, so my mother was never baptized into any church yet while she was critical of religions she spoke of Jesus which tells me she believed in Him.

    It’s God who finds a way into hearts that would otherwise not know Him.

    I worked with an atheist who went to his son’s s baptism into the Baptist church and told us how amused he was when they emerged his son fully suited into the water.

    You cannot limit God to how He works and that is the mystery of God that He can turn up unexpected in any person’s life.

    It was my dad’s example of obedience to God that has impacted me the greatest because he tried to please God while he seen that I was trying to please those of my culture who were being led astray.

    In hindsight I can see my dad knew God while those of my culture preached of knowing God where fulfilling their own wishes and not God’s will.

    He put God first in his life while I and those of my culture where putting our religious beliefs above God’s will which my dad could see but I had blinded myself to.

    Our country is in a mess today because those who were like my dad were seen as traitors to their culture and burned at the stake for disloyalty.

    The burning of Lundy still takes place to this day for those seen as traitors to loyalism.

    My father served in the Royal Navy during the second world war and did 8 Russian Convoys and after that he joined the Palestine Police until 1948 when the British pulled out of Israel.

    He then became a civil servant and worked for the DHSS until his retirement.

    He was a unionist i.e. he believed in the continued unity with the United Kingdom as the way forward and I do not consider him to be disloyal to his country in any way.

    Honesty was my dad’s policy regardless of whether it came down on the Protestant side or the Catholic side and during the troubles here there was no room for honesty because no one wanted to hear the truth unless that truth suited their ears.

  72. foreverblessed says:

    The picture looks like men with dogs, searching for something in a field.
    It is not a hunting party, they have no rifles on their backs. But they sure are looking for something that is hidden in the grain.

    Like searching for the hidden truth of the Cross!
    Lots of effort is going into it, many men together, having many dogs. That looks like christians, searching together.

    But such a big thing this Cross!
    Everything that went wrong can be made right.
    Everything that dies in the Cross is rissen to a new life in the Spirit.

    So what is wrong, we can give to Jesus.
    It is a mystery what happens on the cross. Maybe a sort of big washing machine? jesus took all our sins, the sins of the whole world, and carried it on the Cross, then He died, and went to the underworld,
    1 Peter 3:18-22
    Did Jesus go there, so that we do not have to go there?
    I remember Mart having had a topic: Was satan outwitted? Or something like that, was the deceiver deceived?
    That Jesus died on the Cross,
    Did Jesus say to Satan: I will die, you can have me, but you will let all these souls free. (Jesus being the ransom)
    And satan agreed to that, thought that it was a good deal.
    but satan didn’t know that it was impossible for Jesus to remain dead. (outwitted)

    So by the Spirit Jesus was made alive. 1 Peter 3:18

    Matt 20:28
    just as the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
    Mark 10:45
    For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give his life as a ransom for many.”
    1 Timothy 2:6
    who gave himself as a ransom for all people. This has now been witnessed to at the proper time.
    Hebrews 9:15
    For this reason Christ is the mediator of a new covenant, that those who are called may receive the promised eternal inheritance—now that he has died as a ransom to set them free from the sins committed under the first covenant.

    Oh that Cross, that rugged Cross…
    as the song goes,
    maybe Jeff will know it.

  73. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Jeff, what a difficult situation, a civil war. And to remain true to Jesus.
    Very very difficult.
    Good for your dad, to keep looking to Jesus!

    As I have said before overhere, we had this civil war in my country, 500 years ago. I live now in the south, the south remained catholic. And only now, the reconciliation is slowly taking place. Understanding on both sides.

    Our country has turned Calvinistic, because Calvin preached that you could take up arms against a ruler who did not follow God.
    Martin Luther said that anybody who would take up arms would die by that arms. So that is the explanation they now have why Lutherism has not grown big in our country.

    But as I said, that is how far it takes to be reconciled. 500 years!!!

    The only way is that each person seeks himself (herself) to find Jesus.
    Like searching in that field!

    Search for the pearl of great price

    Jesus is the interpreter between the one soul and the other.
    There is no reconciliation, unless we are in close intimacy with Jesus.
    My Utmost of today talks about that close friendship, and how long it takes to get closer and closer.

  74. bullwinkle says:

    Always begin my day with a devotion and Been Thinking is part of that. Sorry to see what yesterday turned into.

    Proverbs 18: 1-2

    And as Forest Gump would say: “That’s all I have to say about that.”

  75. poohpity says:

    Forgive me I was wrong. I just love God so much and realize all that He has done for the people of the world that it breaks my heart to see someone so angry with Him when He has done nothing, nothing wrong. It is an anger that does nothing for the person holding on to it but cause depression. I guess it was not my place to find a way to point someone to all the great things God has accomplished in his life to turn that anger into joy. I guess it is better to keep things as they are and not rock the boat. I apologize for being a busy body.

  76. SFDBWV says:

    I fully agree Foreverblessed, the literal view of the picture is of men looking in a wheat field for something. There also appears to be something laying in the grass that has the men’s attention. I see also what appears to be the face of a dog looking at whatever is laying in the grass.

    They appear to be fairly well dressed, which dates the picture as being from a different era. No one in jeans and a sweatshirt there.

    I did like your symbolic view of searching for the cross, or Jesus. Perhaps they are just searching for answers, symbolically.

    I at first thought of it as a crime scene.

    Viv’s recount of living in a war torn culture reminds me of where so many countries today live in such a hate driven culture. Religious division seems to be everywhere and the violence that evokes seems to be on the increase.

    Prayers for her and all of the others. Praying for the peace of Jerusalem.


  77. poohpity says:

    Healing the spirit of a person seems to be the first step in healing a mind and body or at least make the journey more tolerable. But one has to come to admit that their spirit needs healing, to look back with regret to move forward to hope.

  78. poohpity says:

    In America there is a growing hate driven culture mostly from propaganda, no facts just an emotional charge. People have picked sides and it seems nothing can be said for any of them to defeat deduction so they become defensive rather than learn the details to learn about the other side to find common ground.

  79. foreverblessed says:

    Pooh, what would you say to me if I said:
    “I sense a lot of anger in you, I have been a careful reader of all that you have said, the last 10 years”

  80. poohpity says:

    Yes I do get angry. However, since you asked and knowing your history forever, a careful reader is not how I would describe what you do at all because you often misquote what another has said and add what you think and your perception as if it came from them. One has to put themselves aside(let go of control) to really listen to another. Anyone who demands an apology from another is the very definition of controlling.

  81. foreverblessed says:

    I sense a spirit of: “how can I strike them back, those who attack me”

  82. foreverblessed says:

    Anything that you give to the Cross, is being formed into something beautiful.
    But you first have to see that it is wrong.

    It is alright Pooh, whatever I sense does not make any difference. It is none of my business. I just wanted to show you, how aweful it is when you say about other bloggers what you sense in them.

    I just give it over to God, it is out of my control. You giving me an apology is also out of my control.

    May God bless you, and keep you, and watch over you.
    THat is all I can say.

  83. poohpity says:

    No I do not think “how can I strike them back” but how can I get them to understand what God is teaching, often defending myself and pointing others to do some self reflection rather than pooh reflection. When do you or anyone else on here ever admit to wrong doing? None because everyone is so busy telling me what is wrong in my life they do not have time to consider their own wrong doing. Pooh reflection and forgo self reflection.

    Oh forever what a hoot that you turn things over to God really have fooled yourself haven’t you? God never gave us the command to help people to see what is wrong in their lives but to look at what is wrong in our own lives. So sweetheart that is putting things in God’s hands because it is His spirit that does the conviction because not one person alive as any room to talk about others.

    If someone shares that they want to kill themselves or would like someone else to do it for them what is your sense about that? Do you sense they have lost all hope? How do you let them know that God is glad they are alive and wants the best for them? If they know nothing about God because they have not seen the love, joy and hope the Lord brings then I would guess they would say it is just a door to door salesman selling something they do not want!

  84. Beloved says:

    Riddles? Or?

    Proverbs25 NKJV

    11 A word fitly spoken is like apples of gold
    In settings of silver.
    12 Like an earring of gold and an ornament of fine gold
    Is a wise rebuker to an obedient ear.

  85. Beloved says:

    cast pearls before swine
    offer valuable things to people who do not appreciate them.

  86. Beloved says:

    Thinking how long do you beat a dead horse? Wonder what johnnie would say?

  87. Beloved says:

    I would say only God has the power to bring new life out of dead bones. So let God be God! As Steve says.

  88. Beloved says:

    Interestingly 3/20

    Today is the spring equinox, when the sun passes directly over the equator heading north. This will occur at 4:58 pm CDT. Night & day are roughly the same length today all over the planet. This marks the start of astronomical spring in the northern hemisphere.

  89. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, spring is in the air!
    Birds are singing!
    We have hardly had winter, too high temperatures,
    And what a disaster in south eastern Africa. Because of higher ocean temperature, that more rain is in the clouds.

    And for the rest:
    may the peaceof Jesus fill your hearts, and mine!

    And He does, Jesus is all powerful, He is the King, He has the last say over anything anybody says about you and me.

    It is a training, to have a spirit inside, staying in rest, unruffled, not unsettled by anything.

    Just the Peace of Christ.

  90. Beloved says:

    Peace of Christ to all.

  91. Beloved says:

    I was thinking about anger. I’ve learned to run toward my seemingly angry God because I know He is the only one that can save my soul from hell. Paradoxical isn’t it that when I am convicted of sin, which is often, I can count on His mercy and grace to comfort me. The OT prophets understood this, David also. Took Jonah a while but he finally got it, lol.

  92. poohpity says:

    In our time of open prayer Sunday, I prayed for the 1.5 million people effected by the Cyclone Idai that hit Mozambique, Zimbabwe and Malawi. Little did I know until today it is actually 2.6 million people effected. I have a friend who lives in Malawi and I have not heard from him yet whether he is OK his name is Abraham if the Lord puts it on your heart to pray for all over there.

  93. jeff1 says:

    Peace In The Valley

    Oh well, I’m tired and so weary
    But I must go alone
    Till the Lord comes and calls
    Calls me away, oh yes

    Well, the morning’s so bright
    And the lamp is alight
    And the night, the night is as black
    As the sea, oh yes

    There will be peace in the valley for me, some day
    There will be peace in the valley for me, oh Lord, I pray
    There’ll be no sadness, no sorrow, no trouble, trouble I see
    There will be peace in the valley for me

    Well, the bear will be gentle
    And the wolves will be tame
    And the lion shall lay down by the lamb, oh yes

    And the beasts from the wild
    Shall be lit by a child
    And I’ll be changed, changed
    From this creature that I am, oh yes

    There will be peace in the valley for me, some day
    There will be peace in the valley for me, oh Lord, I pray
    There’ll be no sadness, no sorrow, no trouble, trouble I see
    There will be peace in the valley for me, for me

  94. street says:

    bullwinkle enjoy your stay in corinth!

  95. foreverblessed says:

    Mart is asking some questions:

    Does it sound fair, that God says:

    “Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; [punishing] the children and their children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation” (Exodus 34:6-7)?”

    Mart:”to make sense and a meaningful sentence out of words that seem to signal a God who promises to forgive parents while punishing their children and grandchildren?”

    When I didn’t go to a church, I went to conferences, they are quite intense. People come there to seek God, to seek deliverence. I went to a ministry that is called: Freedom ministry. In Dutch: “Bevrijdings ministry”

    At one conference they were doing the: break the bonds of the past.

    You said out loud what you had been doing before you were a christian, and you said:

    In the Name of Jesus I recount what I promised there and there….

    In my case I said: Jesus is My Lord and King, I follow Him, I do say I am not a follower of Mr …. (the mand who founded the fundamentalistic church that I was in)

    For others it was breaking the bonds of all the sexual relations you had had. (Breaking free from sexual spirits that enter when you have sex without Gods consent).

    It was about breaking free from evil spirits that still could be with you and in you.

    (Unless you believe that when you accepted Jesus as Lord, all of them disappear at once, many do believe that)

    The freedom you feel afterwards is great!

    Anyway, most problems go away after that.

    But not all….

    There comes in the “freedom ministry”

    And you get some heavy stories, I have told about the woman who had been abused as a little child, who had a multiple personality problem. That lady was freed, while people were praying, she layed on the groung, and was quiet, afterwards she said:

    I saw Jesus on the Cross, He picked me from the ground and carried me to His bossom on the Cross, it was dark,, pitch-dark, and I was there a long time. I asked Jesus: How long, and Jesus said: As Long as it takes.

    The big thing was too, that the Holy Spirit said to the minister who was with her:

    Go stand beside, this is the Work of the Holy Spirit.

    And in amazement he stepped aside, and watched, a long time.

    Afterwards the woman was whole, that is to say: In One piece, no more many personalities, just her alone, with Jesus!

    Now comes the part why I write this now:

    There was a family who was haunted by darkness. Strange things that happened. The saying in Dutch is: “As if the devil was playing games with them”

    Too many to be just a coincidence.

    Then it is a good thing that there is a ministry: many people praying.

    It was not solved at once. Here comes in the perseverence: Keep on praying: Luke 11:5-10

    Then one time as they were praying, one person heard a word in her head: Barneveld. That is the name of a village in our country.

    And here they were puzzling over what it meant. Now the family, who was troubled, was searching too, what it meant, and they found that they had a great great grand father, who lived in the south of the country, who had the last name: Barneveld. It had nothing to do with the village, but with the name of their great great grandfather. They discovered this man had been a criminal man, and had murdered someone.

    The family kneeled down, and prayed, and asked for forgiveness for their great great grandfather.

    And the problems stopped.

    ….to the third and fourth generation.

    God stops it after the fourth generation.

    But when we follow God, He blesses into the thousandth generation.

    What a big thing,
    my children into the thousandth generation will be blessed because I follow Him. I may fall, but will stand up again, and remain walking where He leads. What a blessing that will bring!
    Ex 20:6

    This is a long story, I had never heard about these things. But that asking for forgiveness is important. Even about sins that our forefathers have done.

  96. foreverblessed says:

    But from this story it is also clear, that God does not punish the children:

    He allows that into the fourth generation, in the spirit world something happens to the offspring to those who have done evil things to other people. after the fourht generation, God does not allow it any longer.

    I also see that it is important that we are under the blood of Christ, the blood is a covering, a shield, protection.
    Jesus has paid the ransom, we can claim that.

    You would say: Was this troubled family not covered by the blood of Christ. Was it still possible they were haunted?

    They had to do some cleaning up. There is this: “saying sorry” for what someone in our family history has done. Amazing story!

  97. foreverblessed says:

    That “Freedom” ministry that I went to, at that time were being coached by:
    Neil T Anderson: The bondage breaker

    While doing a search on breaking bonds,I forgot the name of Andeson, there is a bondage breaking ministry in St. Jonesboro, Arkansas. Good to see that.
    On Tuesdaynights, they have a dinner and afterwards a worship service.

    I would envsion that: having dinner together, with those that may come to us, and have them join the christians that are singing about their freedom in Christ.

    Tonight the prsion ministry of C brown, may God bless you. Our God, Who sets free,
    because of Jesus Christ.

  98. SFDBWV says:

    Mart asks what if our first parents and their children would have been allowed to live forever without any evidence that something had terribly gone wrong.

    The statement for me opens up yet another question I have heard debated all my life.

    Were Adam and Eve supposed to have children prior to their fall?

    In Genesis 1:26-28 KJV God created man gave him dominion over the earth and in Verse 27 states God at the time created male and female and in verse 28 tells them to multiply and fill the earth.

    Then as the saga continues the story of the actual formation and creation of Adam and Eve is given. At first both not knowing the difference good and evil.

    Eve’s punishment being cast out of Eden along with Adam, but “cursed” with the pain of childbirth.

    So at this time their children begin to emerge.

    Countless people have associated the process of procreation as something that came about after the fall and so have looked at having this sexual encounter as something “dirty”.

    Which all by itself has created crippling and long lasting psychological damage to people who associate sex with sin.

    So we assume that the male and female God refers to in Genesis 1:26-28 KJV to be Adam and Eve then once Eve (an afterthought of God) was created they were at some point told to procreate. Or was it not until after their sin they told to begin the process of procreation?

    Just as a thought, the idea that the children of Adam and Eve would have been able not to die and live forever seems to me to have more than filled the earth in short order and the earth not large enough to contain that many “eternal” people.

    However in the spirit of just examining Mart’s question of a world full of people who did not know that Adam and Eve had did something terrible (and assuming that none of them did as well) seems to lay in there with the lack of ability to know good from evil.

    Almost as if to kick start the rest of the story, the original sin had to happen.

    Something to think about.

    I watched the “Super Moon” rise last evening. It was magnificent, red and orange as it rose above the horizon and enormous. I see it still this morning moving toward the western half of the sky bright white and smiling down at us at 26 degrees f.

    It is the little things that give such delight, a gift from God.


  99. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed to be fair to you it wasn’t until I posted that I seen your posts this morning. I will give your thoughts my undivided attention as soon as I get some more time and comment then.


  100. jeff1 says:

    Our lack of knowing good from evil is to see it in black and white.

    God sees the bigger picture as He has to conquer evil.

    We think we know best but God does know best which is why God does not allow anyone to get in His Way.

    He must lead and I must follow and why my earthly dad believed that if God sends you suffering then so be it and if He sends you blessings then so be it as whatever He sends you He does so for the right reasons.

    I try to contradict God saying He has no right to do this or that when it is my ignorance of God that fails to see God’s righteousness.

    Great Is Thy Faithfulness

    Great is Thy Faithfulness, O God my Father
    There is no shadow of turning with Thee
    Thou changes not, Thy compassions, they fail not
    As Thou hast been, Thou forever will be

    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Morning by morning new mercies I see
    And all I have needed Thy hand hath provided
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me

    Pardon for sin and a peace that endureth
    And Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide
    Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow
    Blessings all amine, with ten thousand beside

    Great is Thy Faithfulness
    Great is Thy Faithfulness
    Morning by morning new mercies I see
    And all I have needed Thy hand hath provided
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me

    And all I have needed Thy hand hath provided
    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me

  101. jeff1 says:

    C. S. Lewis on what God is doing in your life.

    “Imagine yourself as a living house. God comes in to rebuild that house. At first, perhaps, you can understand what He is doing. He is getting the drains right and stopping the leaks in the roof and so on; you knew that those jobs needed doing and so you are not surprised. But presently He starts knocking the house about in a way that hurts abominably and does not seem to make any sense. What on earth is He up to? The explanation is that He is building quite a different house from the one you thought of – throwing out a new wing here, putting on an extra floor there, running up towers, making courtyards. You thought you were being made into a decent little cottage: but He is building a palace. He intends to come and live in it Himself.”

  102. SFDBWV says:

    Those are good observations Viv, very, very good.


  103. SFDBWV says:

    I have some reading material here from several different Christian writers that cover the subject of “Generational Curses”.

    It just doesn’t sound like something a loving God would due, put a curse on anyone, but curses began in the Garden with punishment.

    I have told this actual story more than once here and to others, but it bears repeating along this train of thought.

    Only a week or so after the death and burial of my father, I dreamt of him. He was lying in a coffin and as I looked down upon him he opened his eyes and looked up at me and said to me to visit Henry Davis in prison. I was more than shocked at my dead father talking to me, but also that my long dead grandfather (my mother’s dad) was in prison.

    I said to my dad in a gush of excitement and confusion, dad you were dead, I buried you this is great that you are alive, he looked at me and once again said for me to visit Henry Davis he is in prison and I need to pray for him.

    Again I said this is also amazing as I thought he was also dead, if I had known he was in prison I would have been visiting him all these years,

    He had died when I was about 11 or 12 years old.

    Upon awakening I realized of course that it was only a dream, but a very special one.

    It was then that I began to inquire of the Catholic Church where it is they get the idea that they can pray for the dead. As well as making a search and study of it myself with others and more importantly in the Bible and meditating in prayer.

    It is God who can remove a generational curse and it begins with the influence, instruction and urging of the Holy Spirit and continued prayer.

    If any of you have ever ask God to use you be prepared to be used by Him.

    It is never going to be how you thought or in the way you ever could have imagined. He will empower you and send you work He wants from you. And yes Viv you are changed forever as you do the work God has put upon you to do.

    The world will come against you, but God is way bigger than the world, over time His will, will be done.

    I am out of time for now, peace and love to you all.


  104. jeff1 says:

    My mum would say my dad was too trusting of people but I learned that my dad was not at all fooled by people as his discernment was spot on when it came to knowing others.

    He knew whom to trust and who not to trust and it was his closeness to God that kept him right in his judgements.

    It is when I wander from God that I become confused and it was not his weakness to wander but very much the opposite it was his strength to stay close to God.

    I don’t believe in coincidences and I don’t think it was by chance that my dad stayed close to God but by God’s decree.

    When I Get to the End of the Way

    The sands have been washed in the footprints Of the stranger on Galilee’s shore,
    And the voice that subdued the rough billows,
    Will be heard in Judea no more.
    But the path of that lone Galilean,
    With joy I will follow today;
    And the toils of the road will seem nothing,
    When I get to the end of the way.
    There are so many hills to climb upward,
    I often am longing for rest,
    But He who appoints me my pathway
    Knows just what is needful and best.
    I know in His word He hath promised
    That my strength, “it shall be as my day”;
    And the toils of the road will seem nothing,
    When I get to the end of the way.
    He loves me too well to forsake me,
    Or give me a trial too much;
    All His people have been dearly purchased,
    And Satan can never claim such.
    By and by I shall see Him and praise Him,
    In the city of unending day;
    And the toils of the road will seem nothing,
    When I get to the end of the way.
    When the last, feeble step has been taken,
    And the gates of that city appear,
    And the beautiful songs of the angels
    Float out on my listening ear;
    When all that now seems so mysterious
    Will be bright and as clear as the day,
    Then the toils of the road will seem nothing,
    When I get to the end of he way.

  105. poohpity says:

    street, I do not know if you realize how right on your statement was when you said, “bullwinkle enjoy your stay in corinth!” I think referring to this blog.

    “The city of Corinth was a major metropolis in the Roman Empire when the gospel was first introduced there. Because of its location, Corinth was a key to the trading world, receiving heavy traffic by land and sea. It was a hustling and bustling city full of merchants and was a melting pot of different cultures. Jew, Greeks, Italians and more took up residence in Corinth, all bringing different lifestyles, values and even gods with them.

    Over the years, Corinth became known for its rampant prostitution. A high percentage of the population was slaves, and temples dedicated to Aphrodite, Neptune, and other gods were a huge part of their polytheistic culture.

    It was into this context that Paul walked one day, around 51 AD. He was ready to introduce the gospel of Jesus Christ to a city living in darkness. Paul faced a lot of challenges in Corinth; just read Acts 18 to get all the details. But he was able to form a friendship with a guy named Titius Justus. Titius Justus gave him a place to stay, and for the next 18 months Paul established relationships with people and witnessed to anyone who would listen.The gospel began to take root in Corinth. A few people here and there placed their faith in Christ.

    A steadily growing group of believers formed. The church in Corinth was born.

    The Corinthian believers were engaging in some seriously messed up things. From sexual promiscuity to getting drunk in church to quarreling amongst themselves, these guys were far from the ideal loving and thriving church body.

    In our eyes, Paul would have had every reason to be angry with the Corinthian believers. He had presented the gospel to them, discipled them, taught them, and poured his life into them, and this is how they were choosing to act? This is how they chose to respond to the Lord, Paul, and the free gift of salvation – by acting worse than unbelievers?

    And yet this is how Paul approaches them:

    ” I am writing to God’s church in Corinth, to you who have been called by God to be his own holy people. He made you holy by means of Christ Jesus, just as he did for all people everywhere who call on the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, their Lord and ours. May God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ give you grace and peace” (1 Corinthians 1:2-3 NLT).

    This is Paul’s first words to a failing group of people. He doesn’t shout or demand an explanation of their behavior. He doesn’t threaten them to “shape up, or else”. He doesn’t even bring their sin to light yet. He goes on to say,

    “I always thank my God for you and for the gracious gifts he has given you, now that you belong to Christ Jesus. Through him, God has enriched your church in every way—with all of your eloquent words and all of your knowledge. This confirms that what I told you about Christ is true. Now you have every spiritual gift you need as you eagerly wait for the return of our Lord Jesus Christ. He will keep you strong to the end so that you will be free from all blame on the day when our Lord Jesus Christ returns. God will do this, for he is faithful to do what he says, and he has invited you into partnership with his Son, Jesus Christ our Lord”(1 Corinthians 1:4-9).

    As we move along in the book of 1 Corinthians, Paul does address the sin issues in their lives. He urges them toward godly sorrow, repentance, and brokenness. But because He starts out by reminding them who they are, affirming his relationship with them, and building them up in Christ he has a loving platform to do so. Instead of ripping them to shreds, he graciously builds a foundation of security for them, and then addresses the work that needs done.

    Our God is a gracious God. Just as with the church in Corinth, he see the failures, mistakes, and immaturities in our lives, and no, He is not just okay with them. But instead of angrily condemning us, he deals with us as a loving Father deals with His children. His goal is to transform us into the image of His Son, and he will stop at nothing until He accomplishes this. God is a faithful God. He seeks to change us on the basis of the fact that we are already in Christ. He knows who we are, secure, justified, and in Him, even when we forget our identity and choose to sin.” Anna Wishart graduate of Ethnos360 Bible Institute

  106. poohpity says:

    It would seem that the iniquities that seem to be visited from generation to generation mentioned in Exodus 34:7 are things like denying God, rebellion, different addictions, superstitions and maybe even fighting but God goes on to say Deuteronomy 24:16. As forever mentioned the chains of those are broken in Christ Jesus.

  107. poohpity says:

    It seems easy to take out parts of the whole and build an understanding all from our own thinking and reasoning that may not be in keeping with the rest of what God means.(Prov 3:5) Taking out a verse here and there to prove our point and we totally miss God’s point which is how Satan used scripture in the tempting of Jesus in the wilderness.

  108. poohpity says:

    There was a whole generation that had to die off after the Exodus which consisted of those who grumbled and complained and did not trust God to provide before they could enter the promised land by follow the Lord’s leading and guidance. So I ask myself am I leading the generation after me to follow God or continue in the path of my ancestors who did not follow God? This life is the only one we have to live and after this we can go one of two ways.

  109. poohpity says:

    The desire to live with God now and for all eternity or to want to have nothing to do with Him. The choice can only be made in the here and now.

  110. poohpity says:

    Another generational problem is gossip. Proverbs 11:13 NLT. Has one grown accustomed to tell other people’s stories without their permission and worse yet by using their stories to bring attention to the one telling them?

  111. street says:

    thinking of corinth this morning. scary thoughts. as i look at the letters to the churches in Revelation i did notice corinth was not among them. lot tried to live close to very secular world. as we know he and his family were driven out of it, much like israel being driven out of eygpt.

    my thoughts turn to 10 virgins. everyone knew the LORD was coming back. five of which went into town to buy oil from the merchants. laodicea comes to mind. 18 I counsel you to buy from me gold refined in the fire, so you can become rich; and white clothes to wear, so you can cover your shameful nakedness; and salve to put on your eyes, so you can see.

    But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well.

    7 “Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8 For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

    knock knock …..who’s there?

    seems to me we know who’s at the door, because we know what’s inside of us. thinking of nicodemus. Jesus tells him,… “Very truly I tell you, no one can see the kingdom of God unless they are born again.

    this was in response to him saying that Jesus had God’s favor because God was with Him. he was saying this from his own perspective and not from God’s perspective. God was not on the Thrown of his heart. nicodemus was. seems to me The King reigns after the old one is dead. bruised head comes to mind. awaiting Redemption in a vineyard.

    when you pass through the fire, the fire will not hurt you.

    thinking about abrahm getting up in the morning and seeing the smoke rise from the plain below him.
    the friend of God.

  112. SFDBWV says:

    Ha, ha, ha 6 of them.

    The Pharisees and Sadducees were expert in the Torah and Books of Scripture. Yet they were lacking a lot, especially the indwelling of the Holy Spirit and His leading.

    The Pharisees believed in an afterlife while the Sadducees did not.

    Together they had Jesus killed for teaching things they did not agree with. Considering Him to be blasphemous.

    In that wonderful Scripture 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 KJV, 1 Corinthians 13:7 KJV says “Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, and endures all things.”

    What is the “anti” or opposite of that verse of Scripture?

    Anger/hate bears nothing, believes nothing, does not believe in hope and cannot endure anything.

    Such a spirit is against everything and everybody, insists on being see as always right and always must have the last word.

    I will always hope, I will always believe God is more than the box such people try and put Him in.

    My hope and faith is in the Lord through whom nothing is impossible.

    And no one else.

    34 degrees and cloudy, a cold first full day of Spring.


  113. Beloved says:

    Riddle solved

    Psalm 34 “Come ye children hearken unto Me, I will teach you the fear of the Lord. Depart from evil and do good, seek peace and pursue it.”

  114. Beloved says:

    Interesting thoughts steve. I too have been thinking about Adam and Eve. Here goes my simple thought that God made them out of dirt, out of earth, so they were never meant to live forever, unlike spirit beings. Everything created degenerates therefore multiplication is vital for the world to continue. Earth, water, sun, nothing exists without these three ingredients. Like a garden we flourish and die, then the remains nourish new life. My friend wished to be cremated and scattered. My brother was cremated and scattered in his favorite fishing hole. Sorry I digress. Just thinking.

  115. street says:

    i was reminded that corinth was given three letters plus the others.

  116. street says:

    beloved dirt was the media or canvas God chose to work in. sin affected the canvas in a horrific manner, after God cursed the ground. subjected to futility. in Revelation it speaks of translucent gold like glass you could see through. sin darkened everything! thinking of a light so bright darkness is driven away. later it talks about God is all and in all. we don’t see that now but the seraphims still sings the whole earth is filled with His Glory. hope

    man was given a spirit too. when he sinned that spirit relation to God died. physically under a sentence of death and dead to God. made alive in Christ. The Promised One. so looking forward to an incorruptible body like, Christ. i guess it is the sharing in suffering that gets us down here. thinking of the Psalms where they start in the valley and end in the presents of God.

  117. Beloved says:

    Ok so I was speaking about our finiteness. But, God put His breath into us mudballs making us living testaments becoming the very imago deo! He lives and so shall we who are “in Christ”!

  118. Beloved says:

    When I said spirit beings I was referencing satan and the angels. Hadn’t thought further, but yes we are given a spirit when we are first formed in a body. A spirit that will live forever with God, or without Him in eternal punishment- separation from God.

  119. jeff1 says:

    I serve a risen Saviour; He’s in the world today.
    I know that He is living, whatever men may say.
    I see His hand of mercy, I hear His voice of cheer,
    And just the time I need Him He’s always near.


    He lives! He lives! Christ Jesus lives today!
    He walks with me and talks with me along life’s narrow way.
    He lives! He lives! Salvation to impart!
    You ask me how I know He lives? He lives within my heart.

    Stanza 2:

    In all the world around me I see His loving care,
    And though my heart grows weary I never will despair.
    I know that He is leading, thro’ all the stormy blast;
    The day of His appearing will come at last.


    Stanza 3:

    Rejoice, rejoice, O Christian! Lift up your voice and sing
    Eternal hallelujahs to Jesus Christ, the King!
    The Hope of all who seek Him, the Help of all who find,
    None other is so loving, so good and kind.

  120. street says:

    what a friend we have in Jesus …….

  121. Beloved says:


  122. Beloved says:

    Viv I love that song!!!

  123. foreverblessed says:

    In all the world around me I see His loving care,

    The spring is in the air.
    Birds are singing…
    Flowers everywhere.

    God’s provision for nature.
    It is so good!

    Easier to see in spring than in cold and dreary times.
    But now, as you said Beloved, the sun is on the wat back, making longer daylight time.

    Times in the valley, and times on the mountaintop!

    On the mountaintop to be filled, with the love of Jesus, with strength, with vision!
    And then back to the valley, to touch another soul, by the touch of the Holy Spirit.
    Because more of Him, and less of me.
    ( Street, yesterday on Utmost March 21, you might like.
    About our old man gone, our new man in Christ)
    The picture of the mountaintops is beautiful, and the valley in forefront.

    But just singing praise to Jesus, singing, also when in the valley.

  124. foreverblessed says:

    Psalm 96:7-13
    Ascribe to the Lord, all you families of nations,
    ascribe to the Lord glory and strength.
    Ascribe to the Lord the glory due his name;
    bring an offering and come into his courts.
    Worship the Lord in the splendor of his[a] holiness;
    tremble before him, all the earth.
    Say among the nations, “The Lord reigns.”
    The world is firmly established, it cannot be moved;
    he will judge the peoples with equity.

    Let the heavens rejoice, let the earth be glad;
    let the sea resound, and all that is in it.
    Let the fields be jubilant, and everything in them;
    let all the trees of the forest sing for joy.
    Let all creation rejoice before the Lord, for he comes,
    he comes to judge the earth.
    He will judge the world in righteousness
    and the peoples in his faithfulness.

  125. SFDBWV says:

    March 22, 2019
    The Everlasting Mercy of God
    “O give thanks unto the LORD; for he is good: for his mercy endureth for ever.” (Psalm 136:1)

    God’s mercy is a monumental theme in Scripture. The English word appears some 341 times in the Bible. The four Hebrew and three Greek words appear a total of 454 times and are also translated by “kindness,” “lovingkindness,” “goodness,” “favor,” “compassion,” and “pity.” Of the 66 books of the Bible, only 16 do not use one of the words for mercy. Even though “mercy” is an important concept, it is somewhat difficult to prescribe a definition for it, especially since “grace” is occasionally coupled with it.

    In the first reference where “mercy” is used, Lot has just been expelled from Sodom by the angels of judgment. In spite of the command by the angels that Lot and his daughters “escape to the mountain,” Lot begs: “Oh, not so, my Lord: Behold now, thy servant hath found grace in thy sight, and thou hast magnified thy mercy, which thou hast shewed unto me in saving my life, . . . this city is near . . . Oh, let me escape thither” (Genesis 19:17-20). And later, the New Testament saints are told to “come boldly unto the throne of grace, that we may obtain mercy, and find grace to help in time of need” (Hebrews 4:16). In these and other such passages, the two terms appear to address similar subjects.

    However similar they may appear to be, these words are not synonyms. “Grace” is most often associated with the sovereign dispensation of totally undeserved favor, and it is specifically connected to salvation. “Mercy” is more often connected to the withholding of judgment: “For he shall have judgment without mercy, that hath shewed no mercy; and mercy rejoiceth against judgment” (James 2:13).

    Set aside some time today to read and meditate on this psalm. You will find the day less wearisome if you do. HMM III

    From Days of Praise.


  126. poohpity says:

    Having the Spirit of God living inside of us the term mercy is very easy to define. Mercy is a special kind of love. It is compassionate love for one who does not deserve it, or for one who desperately needs it but can do nothing on his or her own to get it.

    A beautiful hidden gem of a verse in the third chapter of Genesis may just be a description of God’s first act of mercy. The choice made by Adam and Eve to oppose God justly leads to their punishment, including banishment from the Garden of Eden.(Gen 3:21-22) So it is this expulsion that prompts God’s second act of mercy. It is as though he is thinking of the difficulties that await his children (for though they have sinned they are still and always will be his children) beyond the garden. Although he knows that Adam and Eve must leave the place of their sin, he wants to protect them. And so, for the man and his wife, the Lord God made leather garments, with which he clothed them the first act of mercy. (Gen. 3:21)

    True, you may say God was only covering the newfound shame of Adam and Eve (3:10-11). But he could have left this task to their own toil. Instead, he takes it upon himself to clothe them. He covers their nakedness, and in doing so, he protects them from the brutal sun and the harsher conditions they are likely to find outside the paradise of Eden.

    Even when we bring suffering upon ourselves, he does not abandon us. He is moved with compassion. He himself takes up needle and thread and sews up protective garments, handcrafted from the bounty of his own creation, to clothe us in his mercy. Just as He took on human flesh going to the Cross in the NT as to clothe us in His mercy forever.

    It seems only difficult to define mercy if one does not know they need it, they feel self righteous and good all in their own.

  127. poohpity says:

    The item that Adam and Eve used to cover themselves was less than ideal and would have not stood up under the test of time as leather does. (Gen 3:7) So by their own thinking and reasoning as they chose to do things to cover up their own mess not only by blaming someone else for their choices, reactions, thoughts and feelings they hid from God and used flimsy fig leaves. Three attempts not to face or admit what they had done.

  128. foreverblessed says:

    Chris, how did the prison ministry go?
    On ODB there is a story of Malcolm Alexander, who was released after 38 years of prison, falsely accused. On the innocenceproject website his whole story is told.

    But I was thinking: 38 years for a rape, is that not a bit long?
    Even for a murder that is long.

    “Rather than exerting his energy trying to get revenge, he exhibited the posture Peter instructs: “Do not repay evil with evil or insult with insult” (1 Peter 3:9).

    The Scriptures go a step further: rather than seeking vengeance, the apostle Peter tells us we are to bless (v. 9). We extend forgiveness, the hope of well-being, for those who have unjustly wronged us. Without excusing their evil actions, we can meet them with God’s scandalous mercy. On the cross, Jesus bore the burden of our wrongs, that we might receive grace and extend it to others—even those who have wronged us.”

  129. Beloved says:

    Forever I heard about that on the news here. It’s hard to imagine 38 years! Praying for Chris last night myself. Steve thanks for that psalm. I awoke singing Great is they faithfulness. Jesus is in the valley as well as the mountaintop. Climbing uphill today, blessings all.

  130. Beloved says:

    Oh sorry that was on ODB, but recently another similar case I just heard about. How do they endure? Must take the faith God gives them.

  131. cbrown says:

    Good morning all!The Bible study went well last night. We sang “Amazing Grace” and reveiwed “Our Daily Bread” for the week. About half of the inmates in the study have life sentences with no chance of parole.Please pray that changes made in the Federal sentences wlll lead to reforms by the states. It is easy to be unmercifull to an inmate and the sentences are nothing like what television portrays them.Also,as prison costs increase cuts in rehabiitation and reentry programs are being cut which is the wrong answer. Love to all!

  132. poohpity says:

    Chris, I was thinking that on a whole the prisons are really a place of mercy because the way God had intended justice to be served was an eye for an eye sort of punishment. There was stoning for any infringement of His laws and restitution to the injured party’s family. Not sitting in jail getting 3 meals a day, a warm bed, being able to have a TV in their cells, medical care, etc. which is more than what most victims or other citizens get in their life especially if they are low income.

    There are many that get out of jail and break the law again just so they can go back because on the outside they were not able to have it as good as they did in jail. They want more in rehabilitation and reentry services while in jail than most regular citizens get who have not broken laws, how is that right? The easier the consequences are for breaking the law the easier it is to break the law, the more severe the consequence are the less likely to break laws to begin with.

  133. cbrown says:

    Pooh, thanks for the post for discussion.Jesus changed it all to Love your enemies and turn the other cheek, walk an additional mile. The latest information I have is that average cost per day of prison food is $2.32 cents or .77cents per meal.I have eaten several times with the inmates and I doubt if you would touch the food and you probably would not know what it was. As far as a warm bed,it is a cot and the only time it is warm is August. In winter it is cold.It is possible in open population facilities 80 inmates might share a TV(no cable) and prisoners on death row can have a small TV if their family pays for it. Medical care is the biggest cost in prison especially as the prison population ages but preventative care is lacking and inmate has to get in line for several weeks to be seen by a medical professional.
    Our foolish country is developing crime factories and I can attest to the fact that if you show inmates mercy and that there is another Way they can be transformed.

  134. cbrown says:

    One more thought, crime is going down. Statistics show that it is not because of longer prison sentences. My opinion is that it is because of the elimation of segregation and the increase in opportunities for all.

  135. poohpity says:

    Chris I have been in jail in Florida, Ohio, Arizona and Oregon. Yes I know many have had spiritual awakening moments while in jail but what I was saying is that the alternatives could be worse. The best way to help prisoners is to be there to help in their neighborhoods before they ever do something that causes them to be put in jail which now with more people working it does cause crime to go down. Usually people that are on death row are doing way better than the person who was their victim who may never see another day. There is always, to me, room for mercy but even given such a gift as that everybody still suffers consequences for their actions.
    God showed mercy to Adam and Eve but they still had to leave the garden.

    It is something great that Congress and this President did pass H.R.5682 ““Formerly Incarcerated Reenter Society Transformed Safely Transitioning Every Person Act” or the “FIRST STEP”. I have not read the whole bill yet but I hear it is going to be a big help.

  136. jeff1 says:

    My son asked me once why there was so many love songs and when I reflected I thought of how great our desire for to love and to be loved (not thinking of just romance) is and yet so much violence and hatred fills many hearts today and the world doesn’t change that much as nations battle for supremacy.

    It seems man has an inherited desire to be supreme showing his ignorance of God as ‘Jesus’ knew His commission was to serve and do the will of His father.

    Luke 22:42 42″Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”

    Matthew 26:39 Going a little farther, he fell with his face to the ground and prayed, “My Father, if it is possible, may this cup be taken from me. Yet not as I will, but as you will.”

    Mark 14:36 36″Abba, Father,” he said, “everything is possible for you. Take this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will.”

    John 18:11 11Jesus commanded Peter, “Put your sword away! Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?”

    Jesus knew what His mission was to do His Fathers’s will and no less.

    How often have I failed to do God’s will through weakness or through my own deliberate fault.

    It took discipline and obedience for Jesus to follow God’s will but the scripture verses tell us that He wished there could be some other way.

    How often have I wished that God would take suffering from me but He doesn’t!

    I do not always understand God’s ways but I can trust His ways, Jesus did, and God says the way to the Father is through the Son. Amen.

  137. SFDBWV says:

    God bless you Viv. We who persevere do so with hope in our hearts and faith in our Lord. Surely he will honor such a commitment to Him.

    2 inches of snow and 23 degrees f.


  138. jeff1 says:

    I have returned to the God of my childhood,
    to the same simple faith as a child I once knew.
    Like a prodigal son I’ve longed for my loved ones.
    For the comforts of home and the God I outgrew.

    I have returned to the God of my childhood,
    Bethlehem’s Babe,
    the prophet’s Messiah.
    He’s Jesus to me,
    eternal Deity!
    Praise His name,
    I have returned.

    I have returned to the God of my father,
    the most God-like man a child could know.
    Oh I just heard a shout from the angels in glory,
    praising the Lord a child has come home.

    I have returned to the God of my father,
    creator of heaven and earth,
    God of the universe.
    He’s Jesus to me,
    eternal Deity.
    Praise His name,
    I have returned.

    I have returned to the Yahweh of Judah,
    on my knees I did fall
    where the wall now stands.
    This lesson I’ve learned as I’ve worked my way homeward,
    the Saviour of all is the comfort to man.

    I have returned to the Father of Abraham,
    The shepherd of Moses,
    who called Him the great I am.
    He’s Jesus to me,
    eternal Deity.
    Praise His name,
    I have returned.

    I have returned to the God of my father,
    creator of heaven and earth, God of the universe.
    He’s Jesus to me,
    eternal Deity.
    Praise His name,
    I have returned.

    I have returned!

  139. jeff1 says:

    1 O Jesus, I have promised
    to serve thee to the end;
    be thou forever near me,
    my Master and my Friend;
    I shall not fear the battle
    if thou art by my side,
    nor wander from the pathway
    if thou wilt be my guide.

    2 O Jesus, thou hast promised
    to all who follow thee,
    that where thou art in glory
    there shall thy servant be;
    and, Jesus, I have promised
    to serve thee to the end;
    O give me grace to follow,
    my Master and my Friend.

    3 O let me feel thee near me!
    The world is ever near;
    I see the sights that dazzle,
    the tempting sounds I hear:
    my foes are ever near me,
    around me and within;
    but Jesus, draw thou nearer,
    and shield my soul from sin.

    4 O let me hear thee speaking
    in accents clear and still,
    above the storms of passion,
    the murmurs of self-will.
    O speak to reassure me,
    to hasten or control;
    O speak and make me listen,
    thou guardian of my soul.

  140. poohpity says:

    Paul taught 2 Cor 4: Therefore, since God in his mercy has given us this new way, we never give up. 2 We reject all shameful deeds and underhanded methods. We don’t try to trick anyone or distort the word of God. We tell the truth before God, and all who are honest know this.

    3 If the Good News we preach is hidden behind a veil, it is hidden only from people who are perishing. 4 Satan, who is the god of this world, has blinded the minds of those who don’t believe. They are unable to see the glorious light of the Good News. They don’t understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God.

    5 You see, we don’t go around preaching about ourselves. We preach that Jesus Christ is Lord, and we ourselves are your servants for Jesus’ sake. 6 For God, who said, “Let there be light in the darkness,” has made this light shine in our hearts so we could know the glory of God that is seen in the face of Jesus Christ.

    7 We now have this light shining in our hearts, but we ourselves are like fragile clay jars containing this great treasure. This makes it clear that our great power is from God, not from ourselves.

    8 We are pressed on every side by troubles, but we are not crushed. We are perplexed, but not driven to despair. 9 We are hunted down, but never abandoned by God. We get knocked down, but we are not destroyed. 10 Through suffering, our bodies continue to share in the death of Jesus so that the life of Jesus may also be seen in our bodies.

    11 Yes, we live under constant danger of death because we serve Jesus, so that the life of Jesus will be evident in our dying bodies. 12 So we live in the face of death, but this has resulted in eternal life for you.

    13 But we continue to preach because we have the same kind of faith the psalmist had when he said, “I believed in God, so I spoke.” 14 We know that God, who raised the Lord Jesus, will also raise us with Jesus and present us to himself together with you. 15 All of this is for your benefit. And as God’s grace reaches more and more people, there will be great thanksgiving, and God will receive more and more glory.

    That is why we never give up. Though our bodies are dying, our spirits are being renewed every day. 17 For our present troubles are small and won’t last very long. Yet they produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will last forever! 18 So we don’t look at the troubles we can see now; rather, we fix our gaze on things that cannot be seen. For the things we see now will soon be gone, but the things we cannot see will last forever.

  141. Beloved says:

    Viv thank you for the beautiful testimony. Put a smile on my face and warmth to my heart!

  142. Beloved says:

    Bears repeating-

    2 O Jesus, thou hast promised
    to all who follow thee,
    that where thou art in glory
    there shall thy servant be;
    and, Jesus, I have promised
    to serve thee to the end;
    O give me grace to follow,
    my Master and my Friend.

  143. Beloved says:

    Defeat of our greatest enemy allows us to deduct that every detail of our defense for each offense against God is covered by the cross of Christ! (sorry Johnnie, not sorry!)

  144. Beloved says:

    Oh victory in Jesus! My savior forever!

  145. jeff1 says:

    We are traveling in the footsteps
    Of those who’ve gone before
    But we’ll all be reunited (but if we stand reunited)
    On a new and sunlit shore (then a new world is in store)

    Oh when the saints go marching in
    When the saints go marching in
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

    And when the sun refuse (begins) to shine
    And when the sun refuse (begins) to shine
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

    When the moon turns red with blood
    When the moon turns red with blood
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

    On that hallelujah day
    On that hallelujah day
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

    Oh when the trumpet sounds the call
    Oh when the trumpet sounds the call
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

    Some say this world of trouble
    Is the only one we need
    But I’m waiting for that morning
    When the new world is revealed

    When the revelation (revolution) comes
    When the revelation (revolution) comes
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

    When the rich go out and work
    When the rich go out and work
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

    When the air is pure and clean
    When the air is pure and clean
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

    When we all have food to eat
    When we all have food to eat
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

    When our leaders learn to cry
    When our leaders learn to cry
    Oh lord I want to be in that number
    When the saints go marching in

  146. poohpity says:

    Viv, you might be interested in a piece that Mart wrote today for Our Daily Bread about Welsh Revivals and music.

  147. jeff1 says:

    Oh my Lord what a time
    Oh my Lord what a time
    From this old world we’ll flee
    To live eternally
    Oh my Lord what a time
    Oh my Lord what a time
    Oh my Lord what a time
    From this old world we’ll flee
    To live eternally
    Oh my Lord what a time
    Oh my Lord what a time
    Oh my Lord what a time
    From this old world we’ll flee
    To live eternally
    Oh my Lord what a time
    In that fair land
    There will be no more night
    No sun or moon
    For the Lamb of God is light
    It’s good to know
    That He’s prepared the way
    To a bright and endless day
    From this old world (from this old world we’ll flee)
    Gonna live (to live eternally)
    With Christ (with Christ our blessed Lord)
    In a home (in the heavenly high)
    We’ll shout (we’ll shout)
    And sing (and sing)
    We’ll walk (we’ll walk)
    And talk (and talk)
    We’ll shout (we’ll shout)
    And sing (and sing)
    We’ll walk (we’ll walk)
    And talk (and talk)
    We’ll shout (we’ll shout)
    And praise His name
    Every day (every day will be the same)
    Oh my Lord
    My burden bearer
    My help in trouble
    My joy in sorrow
    My light in darkness
    My sword and shield
    Oh my Lord what a time
    From this old world (from this old world we’ll flee)
    We’re gonna live (to live eternally)
    With Christ (with Christ our blessed Lord)
    In a home (in the heavenly high)
    We’ll shout (we’ll shout)
    And sing (and sing)
    We’ll walk (we’ll walk)
    And talk (and talk)
    We’ll shout (we’ll shout)
    And sing (and sing)
    We’ll walk (we’ll walk)
    And talk (and talk)
    We’ll shout (we’ll shout)
    And praise His name
    Every day (every day will be the same)
    Oh my Lord
    My burden bearer
    My help in trouble
    My joy in sorrow
    My light in darkness
    My sword and shield
    Oh my Lord what a time
    What a time

  148. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Pooh, I did read it as I usually do and its beautifully written and I will always feel closer to God in song as it resonates in my heart.

  149. Beloved says:

    Dear Forever..

    Please pray God would remove a root of rejection God revealed this morning. Thank you.

  150. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Beloved,
    Yes, I am doing that.
    This morning our pastor preached about 1 John 5.
    Praying for one another.
    That if we pray within the will of God, our prayers give life to others.
    I believe that!
    Everlasting life

    Dear Beloved!

  151. Beloved says:

    Thank you forever for the reference. When I looked at Matthew Henry’s commentary it says “The real Christian overcomes the world by faith; he sees, in and by the life and conduct of the Lord Jesus on earth, that this world is to be renounced and overcome. He cannot be satisfied with this world, but looks beyond it, and is still tending, striving, and pressing toward heaven. We must all, after Christ’s example, overcome the world, or it will overcome us to our ruin.”

    I was so distraught over what was revealed I just wanted to withdraw from everything but then God said no! Keep on going forward. So I struggled all day in the pain until I thought of you as a prayer warrior who really shares Gods love all the time. Then your answer led me to this! Oh joy! the overcoming power of God that helps us while we are in the world, but not OF the world. yes, the Word gives life! Thank you my dear!

  152. Beloved says:

    Revelation 3:21(NKJV)
    21 To him who overcomes I will grant to sit with Me on My throne, as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

  153. Beloved says:

    Revelation 12:11(KJV)
    And they overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

  154. foreverblessed says:

    Thank God!
    He upholds you, and you did listen to Him: Keep on going forward!

    What a good God we have!

    If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just and will forgive us our sins and purify us from all unrighteousness.
    1 John 1:9
    The verse of the day of biblegateway.

    But I was going to post some verses out of 1 John 5

    4 for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

    11 And this is the testimony: God has given us eternal life, and this life is in his Son. 12 Whoever has the Son has life; whoever does not have the Son of God does not have life.

    13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.

    16 If you see any brother or sister commit a sin that does not lead to death, you should pray and God will give them life.

  155. poohpity says:

    I pray for those who have bared false witness and lied against their neighbor in order to discredit and bring harm to their reputation and character. May God have mercy on their souls.

  156. poohpity says:

    Gal 6: Don’t be misled—you cannot mock the justice of God. You will always harvest what you plant. 8 Those who live only to satisfy their own sinful nature will harvest decay and death from that sinful nature. But those who live to please the Spirit will harvest everlasting life from the Spirit. 9 So let’s not get tired of doing what is good. At just the right time we will reap a harvest of blessing if we don’t give up. 10 Therefore, whenever we have the opportunity, we should do good to everyone—especially to those in the family of faith.

  157. SFDBWV says:

    With concern I may just repeat myself I am led this morning to say again that God is a riddle as well as life.

    When we take the time to stop and ponder God and life and our part and purpose in it the riddle deepens.

    Look at some of the subjects Mart has posed to us and you see a search for answers. Answers that might give us reassurance, peace and comfort.

    Then there is that part of the riddle that we incorporate into it. What actually is it that we are looking for?

    What is lost to us?

    As an abstract thought that goes along with such a question, what would we do to recover a lost love? What would we not do?

    What would we be willing to sacrifice for someone we love to be found and recovered to us?

    In real honest love there should be nothing we would not do in order to restore those we love.

    If any of you have ever lost someone so loved by you, you can begin to feel the heartache God feels.

    If you place yourself then in God’s shoes the story of the Bible may just take on a very different view.

    As we do maybe we can also help Mart find some of the answers he is looking for as well. The key being concerned about another other than yourself.

    39 degrees f, cloudy with the threat of rain.


  158. poohpity says:

    Talk about a great example of a god complex.

  159. cbrown says:

    Steve,Job was an example of some one who saw God face to face Job 42:10 The Lord restored the fortunes of Job when he prayed for his friends, and the Lord increased all that Job had twofold. Acts 20:35b “remember the words of the Lord Jesus, that He Himself said, ‘It is more blessed to give than to receive.’”
    When Jesus said this He was primarily talking about Agape Love.

  160. poohpity says:

    Yes Chris it is God who restores, heals and gives wisdom.

  161. Beloved says:

    “People thrive on positive reinforcement. They can take only a certain amount of criticism and you may lose them altogether if you criticize them in a personal way… you can make a point without being personal. Don’t insult or belittle your people. Instead of getting more out of them you will get less.”
    Bill Walsh, American Football

  162. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Chris for your concern. I appreciate it.

    There is a lot I don’t like about the Book of Job, and by not liking it probably is more because the actions of God given there are puzzling to me. And do not fit the example of God given the example Jesus gives us of the Father.

    Praying for friends and even for strangers is a given in Jesus’ teaching of love, but I wonder how many just say it and never do it or only do it because they said they would, not in earnest at all.

    Matt spends 20 minutes every morning praying for a friend who has breast cancer. He hasn’t heard a word from her for months and months, but that doesn’t deter him from his love for her, and his going to God for healing for her.

    On a note close to your ministry, West Virginia and Maryland both have legislative efforts geared at prison reform going on presently.

    It is no secret that prisons as they exist aren’t rehabilitating as much as simply removing the guilty from the public for a determined time.

    I find it puzzling that Maryland is passing an assisted suicide bill allowing people to get help from a doctor to end their lives, all the while thinking it inhumane to execute a criminal who took the life of another or others. Maryland also favors allowing abortion on demand.

    Life is not all that puzzling when you consider how evil reigns supreme in so many people. The puzzle for so many is why God allows it.

    Hoping for success in your efforts.


  163. SFDBWV says:

    I am smiling Joyce, because you already acknowledged that giving pearls to swine is a waste of a pearl.

    I know, it is hard not to say something.


  164. Beloved says:

    Interesting thing you said Steve about the God of Job and the Christ behaving differently. I’m currently reading a fascinating eye opening book called “None Greater, the undomesticated attributes of God” by Matthew Barrett. God is much more complex, Barret calls Him ” simple” in essence than I’d conceived.

  165. Beloved says:

    Steve I’m finding that focusing on learning more about God is best. So many warnings in the bible, yes, but I think we’re to get beyond them and not base our life in Christ on them. I know how easy it is for me to get bogged down. Prayer is a good vocation!

  166. Beloved says:

    Dear Forever,

    I listen constantly for Jesus’ voice! He’s so faithful, and as street said He is in all and through all things because He is the Creator!! I hear His voice through people, scripture, books, often in the stillness and on rare occasions audibly. Oh He’s wonderful and never leaves His children alone! He gives overcoming life, yes, through our prayers as your pastor said but there’s also a wonderful fellowship through praying for one anothers’ burdens and giving God praise for how He blesses. I praise God for the fellowship of believers and for the joy you and others add to this little community.

  167. poohpity says:

    If God did not allow evil then ALL people would be wiped off of the face of the earth because there is not one who does not do evil in someway. As our topic eludes to there would not be the need for mercy or grace if there was no evil or punishment for it. However there are those who do not think that anything they do is evil because the spirit is not within them, they have been deceived and call God a liar.

  168. Beloved says:

    Speaking of joy…. Thinking of Regina, Saled and Street. Hope all are ok.

  169. poohpity says:

    Saled lost her mom the first of March. I hope I am not causing more grief because I did not ask her if I could share. We can lift her and the family up in prayer.

  170. Beloved says:

    Riddle or Truth?

    Colossians3 Putting on the New Self

    1Therefore, since you have been raised with Christ, strive for the things above, where Christ is seated at the right hand of God.

    2Set your minds on things above, not on earthly things.

    3For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.

    4When Christ, who is your life, appears, then you also will appear with Him in glory.

  171. jeff1 says:

    In this world there are consequences to our wrong thinking or actions and why Jesus is our hope for the world to come.

    It is by looking back with regret that I can look forward in hope as I know God keeps His promises through Christ Jesus.

    The Promise

    I never said that I would give you silver or gold
    Or that you would never feel the fire or shiver in the cold
    But I did say you’d never walk through this world alone
    And I did say, don’t make this world your home

    I never said that fear wouldn’t find you in the night
    Or that loneliness was something you’d never have to fight
    But I did say I’d be right there by your side
    And I did say I’ll always help you fight

    ‘Cause you know I made a promise that I intend to keep
    My grace will be sufficient in every time of need
    My love will be the anchor that you can hold onto
    This is the promise, this is the promise I made to you

    I never said that friends would never turn their backs on you
    Or that the world around you wouldn’t see you as a fool
    But I did say like me, you’ll surely be despised
    And I did say my ways confound the wise
    I didn’t say you’d never taste the bitter kiss of death
    Or have to walk through chilly Jordan to enter into rest
    But I did say I’d be waiting right on the other side (yeah, yeah)
    And I did say I’ll dry every tear you cry

    ‘Cause you know I made a promise that I’ve prepared a place
    And some day sooner than you think you’ll see me face to face
    And you’ll sing with the angels and a countless multitude
    This is the promise, this is the promise I’ve made to you

    So just keep on walkin’, don’t turn to the left or right
    And in the midst of darkness, let this be your light
    That hell can’t separate us and you’re gonna make it through
    This is the promise, this is the promise I made to you, oh
    This is the promise, this is the promise I made to you

  172. poohpity says:

    Amen to God’s promises. People do get discouraged when life has not gone as they thought it should and usually it is God who gets rejected, questioned and blamed but He is big enough to handle our anger, bitterness but while we hold so closely to those we miss the times of joy, peace and His comfort.

  173. poohpity says:

    One also misses the little miracles that take place daily when a heart is filled resentment.

  174. poohpity says:

    It seems that discouragement finds a place in our minds and heart when we think and dream of the way things could have been rather than embracing how they are and how the Lord is bringing us through them with a new song of trust and dependence on God not on what we can do in and of ourselves. God reliance rather than self reliance. One can only move so far in their own strength. One can only understand so much in their own wisdom. BUT with God discouragement can turn into hope.

  175. jeff1 says:

    It isn’t always discouragement from within but what is going on in our environment can be misleading and disappointing as not all choose to follow God’s way either through ignorance or malice.

    It’s when I stay focused on Jesus that I gain the right perspective otherwise I loose sight of my purpose and get discouraged.

    I find strength in Christ but just like Peter I must stay connected to the source through obedience to Him.

    When Peter took His eyes of Jesus he sank so that shows just how important our relationship to Jesus is in keeping with His father’s will.

  176. Beloved says:

    I am smiling Joyce, because you already acknowledged that giving pearls to swine is a waste of a pearl.

    Steve I had to study this teaching of Jesus’ and it appears He is talking about repeatedly sharing the gospel with those who reject it. It’s so easy to find words to fit my attitude or judging mentality sometimes. ODB is so good today for reminding what God thinks.


  177. foreverblessed says:

    My condolences to you Saled, for the loss of your mother!
    May God comfort you and help you.

    My salvation and my honor depend on God; He is my mighty rock, my refuge.
    Psalm 62:7
    verse of the day of biblegateway,

  178. SFDBWV says:

    Joyce, I have little or no time for splitting hairs. Let me just say that the Jew wasn’t allowed to eat oysters, yet knew that a pearl was something beautiful and special, created from a lifetime of irritation to the oyster.

    I have always attributed its use as referenced, to mean it a waste of your time, energy and something as special as a pearl, to try and express wisdom to someone when they cannot understand it. Or eject it.

    As a “pearl of wisdom”.

    Only being polite in answer to you last post. I consider the matter closed.


  179. poohpity says:

    Proverbs 9:8, 23:9 both are similar to what Jesus taught in Matt 7:6. Is one going to teach a dog or pig about the sacred teaching of God there is really no point in that is there? They would trample the teaching then turn around and attack the person teaching. Isn’t it neat that that verse directly follows Jesus’s sacred teaching about judging or criticizing people to push home what He was trying to get them to hear. Matt 7:1-5

  180. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, some time ago you asked about a church sit-in, actually an endless church service, for protecting an armenian family that was going to be put out of our country. They have children, and have lived here almost 10 years.
    Because of that sit-in, the family is allowed to stay now!
    And another thing happened: the government have given a a childrens pardon, some time ago. Also because of that church action!

    I find that very good news.
    I do understand why governments do not say out loud they give pardon, because of the fear it might attract more families to come here.

    We also have a refugee from Nigeria in our church. he has no family left overthere. They tried to kill him, because he was raiseda muslim and became a christian.
    Nigeria is safe on itself, he could go back, in my opinion. But he has been here involved in our church a long time now. He likes to stay here.
    With God everythinbg is possible. If I were to reason around this, I would come up with lots of things.
    But I can also pray: Lord have mercy over him.

    That this family is now allowed to stay is very very good news.

    With prayer, still, and trusting God, that He will act on our prayers.

  181. foreverblessed says:

    Oh, sorry for all the typo’s
    I should do proofreading before posting. just too hasty in delivering the message.
    But I want to thank God, for hearing the prayers for this armenian family. And I pray:
    God have mercy on more families overhere.

  182. foreverblessed says:

    I would like to tell another story about our country
    Last week we had elections, for the senate, and a guy, from nowhere came in the highest. A populist, a guy who says, this civilation is going down, a very grim picturehe paints, vote for me, and change will come.
    As if this guy can save from destruction. Anyway, he got many votes. He also denies climate changes. and wants to pump more gass out of our reservoir in the north.

    In the north of our country there is a big gass reservoir, since the beginning of the 60 we have had gas from there. It gave our country a lot of money. With this money lots of social security was paid. We in our village got a swimmingpool, money paid by the gass.
    in the beginning of the 80s earthquakes started in that area. It took a while, maybe 10 years, till it was realised that these earth quakes were a result of the gaswinning. A lot of houses are in very bad state, lots of wooden structures to hold up the walls.
    And it has been difficult for more than 20 years for these people to be helped.
    THat is what often happens, I see around the world: a mine is digged empty of its treasure, and the people are off, and leave the dirt and chaos behind.
    And so with these people in the north, with all thhe wealth that we have gathered by pumping that gas, so little is going to these people.

    Now what does that have to do with this new quy having been elected?
    This man says: Get the heck with climate: let the pump start working again, getting out more gas out of our gas reservoir!
    And who did the people in the north vote for the most?
    This man.

    And tonight is also a critical night in Britain, the government voting for what options they are going to take. Not the most critical night, but it will get tense, before April 12.

    Our country is a big trading partner with the UK, so whatever happens, it is something that will effect our country as well. If no deal is going through, this will be heavy.

    I just pray: God have mercy on us.
    Give our governments discernment!

  183. Beloved says:

    Forever CT just posted a story about the Armenian on FB today!

  184. jeff1 says:

    I was thinking about C. S. Lewis’s quote (below) on praying as I have not thought of prayer changing me, but, me wanting God to change the circumstances through prayer.

    “I pray because I can’t help myself. I pray because I’m helpless. I pray because the need flows out of me all the time, waking and sleeping. It doesn’t change God. It changes me.”

    If I believe God will change the circumstances then I have the wrong expectations and may get disappointed in seeing no change in the circumstances but if C. S. Lewis is right then it is God’s intention to change me through prayer.

    My dad always had the right attitude towards God which was ‘if it pleases you God’ and in doing so he did not become disheartened easily but showed great strength in difficult times.

    I believe that comes from a person who ‘knows God’ and that means C. S. Lewis is right in saying God does not necessarily change the circumstances but he changes the view/strength of the person praying.

    A Godly person is not overwhelmed by the circumstances because he trusts God in them and is not seeking to walk in the light of his own truths because through prayer he is seeking God’s truths.

  185. poohpity says:

    Viv, Amen so true!

    “If We’re Honest”

    Truth is harder than a lie
    The dark seems safer than the light
    And everyone has a heart that loves to hide
    I’m a mess and so are you
    We’ve built walls nobody can get through
    Yeah, it may be hard, but the best thing we could ever do, ever do

    Bring your brokenness, and I’ll bring mine
    ‘Cause love can heal what hurt divides
    And mercy’s waiting on the other side
    If we’re honest
    If we’re honest

    Don’t pretend to be something that you’re not
    Living life afraid of getting caught
    There is freedom found when we lay
    Our secrets down at the cross, at the cross

    So bring your brokenness, and I’ll bring mine
    ‘Cause love can heal what hurt divides
    And mercy’s waiting on the other side
    If we’re honest
    If we’re honest

    It would change our lives
    It would set us free
    It’s what we need to be

    So bring your brokenness and I’ll bring mine
    ‘Cause love can heal what hurt divides
    And mercy’s waiting on the other side
    If we’re honest
    If we’re honest
    If we’re honest

  186. SFDBWV says:

    Well I suppose this subject will soon come to a close. As for me I still don’t know what the fellows are looking at in the picture.

    Maybe crop circles?

    Still don’t know if Adam and Eve were supposed to have children before the fall.

    Still don’t know is adding a few words to Scripture is ever the right thing to do in order to make sense of a verse.

    I guess there is just still a lot I don’t know.

    God, life and the written word will just have to remain a riddle to be solved in full when we come face to face with the only One who has all the answers.

    In the meantime “Be excellent to each other”. Remembering that what is in your heart is what comes out of your mouth, and in the case of BTA what we write.

    61 degrees under a partly cloudy sky.


  187. street says:

    Romans 11:32
    For God has bound everyone over to disobedience so that he may have mercy on them all.

  188. street says:

    “By perseverance the snail reached the ark” (Charles Haddon Spurgeon, 1834–1892).

  189. Beloved says:

    Happy to see you back, street. Hope you had a good vacation.

  190. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, yesterday I went with my friend, who has cancer, tot Amsterdam. She was sent by her doctor, because he didn’t know what else to do, to the best cancer institute we have.

    (Because her bloodplates were too low, she could have no chemo.)
    She had hoped that she could be part of a trial, with new treatment. They take the cancercells and grow auto-immune cells that attack specifically these cells. So treatment without chemo. But this is new, and in trial stage.

    But to our surprise, they said yesterday: after half a year there has hardly been a progression in the cancer, only one spot in the liver, one third inch, and no new spots.
    With this type of cancer you have NO indication for chemo.
    He said: it looked bleak half a year ago, and a fullblown chemo seemed to be needed, with such quick spreading over two other organs. But the cancer seems tot stand still.
    We advice no chemo, and burn that spot on the liver away.
    “You are way too good to be parten of a trial, only when you are totally given up you may be picked. When a trial starts.

    It didn’t seem to sink into her, that this was actually good news!
    The last half year nothing extra happened!
    So we thanked God.
    But it is hard for her not to worry: it can come back, even after ten years!
    Yes, but today it hasn’t!
    Each day has enough worries of its own!
    She looked thankful and said, yes, today I can enjoy!
    It was a very special day, when God is with us, all is well!

  191. jeff1 says:

    I have learned to take one day at a time, as the song goes, and find that I can control my anxiety rather than it controlling me when I don’t overthink.

    My breakdown came from my mind racing as my worry became so overwhelming that I could no longer function as normal.

    My medication has slowed all down but I have to be careful of stress as my stress level is lower than another’s and so it can have a detrimental effect on my well being.

    It is practising my faith that has improved my restraint and I now enjoy today rather than concerning myself with the worries of tomorrow.

    I have learned to live in the present rather than dwell on the past which I found was creating my anxiety for the future.

    Yesterday’s gone sweet Jesus, tomorrow may never be mine so for my sake teach me to take one day at a time.

  192. Beloved says:

    Very special day indeed! Forever yesterday I was thinking and praying about the sovereignty of God, how if I believe that God is involved, even sovereignly involved in MY life then indeed every day is special! Whether it’s a picnic day or a day such as poor Job suffered -and quite a few of them- all is well! One day at a time with love and trust our Papa is good all the time. So many cliches in what I say, sorry, but He’s a mystery to me. Jesus says it best, Come to Me and I will give you rest! Thankful God says none needed for now as far as any cancer treatment for your friend. He split the Red Sea so He can certainly stop cancer, if He wants to! As you well know.

    Blessings to all.

  193. Beloved says:

    Viv so happy to hear you are resting in Gods love for you today! Come what may God is all and in all and He is always good!

  194. SFDBWV says:

    Today is Matthew’s (my son) birthday he is 41 years of age.

    We have a full and busy day planned, it is my hope that all of you are blessed today as much as am I.

    52 degrees f and cloudy.


  195. Beloved says:

    Happy birthday Matt!

  196. poohpity says:

    A “new” spot in the liver means it is spreading and being in the liver if it is not treated aggressively it will spread further. I do not know how that is good news at all. That is similar to saying something evil is good. To be a real help to someone who has cancer one listens to their fears and anxieties with empathy not to deny reality by telling them how they should feel or think but a heart bent on walking side by side with them through it.

    Forever, I am curious what was your motivation for telling us about your friend’s story? Was it for us to pray for her or was it to highlight your role in her story? Most often when someone shares another person’s story it is to bring some kind of attention to the one telling it or to show what a good so called Christian they are.

    As Steve so aptly said, “Remembering that what is in your heart is what comes out of your mouth, and in the case of BTA what we write.”.

  197. poohpity says:

    Happy Birthday Matt! Hope your day is filled with fun, good food, great presents and love.

  198. jeff1 says:

    Steve, may your celebrations bring you enjoyment today and I have just received a mother’s day card from my son who is in England and that is made my day so thank you for your kind thoughts.

  199. Beloved says:

    Please, no personal attacks!

  200. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Beloved, thank you for the encouragement and I have found what works for me is to live for now and never give up hope for tomorrow as God is always doing something new as His ways are beyond mine and yet He comforts and reassures me of His presence.

  201. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, if you read Forever’s post again it is addressed to Beloved who had spoke of her friend dying of cancer.

    It was not for anyone else to read so why are you being a busybody.

    Stop trying to make assumption’s on other motives and address your own motives as when your relationship is right with God so too will it be right with others.

  202. Beloved says:

    Lots of wisdom there Viv.

  203. poohpity says:

    Joyce yes by all means make sure you don’t.

    How many people close to you have you held their hands while they suffered from cancer and all the treatments that goes along with it? You learn quickly what to say, what not to say and that listening, praying is the best thing you can do for them on that journey. You also learn that their needs for out way your own needs to advise and make light of reality because you are uncomfortable with their diagnoses.

    What is anyone’s motivation for sharing the story of someone else and especially without their permission no matter what that story is? That is not an attack to me but just an awareness of why we do the things we do and another reason to be grateful for the mercy and grace we have been shown. If we do not even consider our motivation we may never be aware of what Mart was speaking of when he said, “Would any of us look up long enough to stake our life, and spend our love on a God who is “Compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin?”.

  204. Beloved says:


    Q. What’s worse than a personal attack?

    A. Using religion to justify it.

  205. jeff1 says:

    My brother-in-law’s niece-in-law has had her beasts removed and tomorrow I will attend a tea/coffee morning organised by her to raise money for breast cancer.

    Today with social media many are sharing their stories of diagnoses and raising awareness of it.

    My mum and dad both died with cancer and many of their friends but I can remember back in those days it was hushed up as superstitions were such that God must be punishing you for wrong doing if you got sick and so many would not share their illnesses with anyone other than family.

    I find that people share for very good reasons and it is also a way of getting them through their ordeal.

    If someone shares with you their illness then they usually say whether they prefer it to be shared or not and I would respect that persons wishes.

    It is about me supporting them in their ordeal in any way I can and praying that they know God’s presence in their lives whether they are a believer or not as I know they could not be in better hands even if they do not.

  206. Beloved says:

    I love you, poohpity.

  207. jeff1 says:

    Have Thine own way Lord
    Have Thine own way
    Thou art the potter I am the clay
    Mold me and make me after Thy will
    While I am waiting yielded and still

    Have Thine own way Lord
    Have Thine own way
    Search me and try me Master today
    Whiter than snow Lord wash me just now
    As in Thy presence humbly I bow

    Have Thine own way Lord
    Have Thine own way
    Hold over my being absolute sway
    Filled with Thy spirit till all can see
    Christ only always living in me

  208. Beloved says:

    Forever please don’t be offended. Prayers for those who are unwell, whether in body mind or spirit are an invitation for God to do what man can’t. You taught me that! Thanks!

  209. Beloved says:

    You know what friends? It takes a lot less energy to love others rather than hate them. Probably because it comes from God, who has already done all the hard work for all mankind for all time!

  210. Beloved says:

    I do NOT do it perfectly all the time ( love ), but I know Who to go to for help!

  211. foreverblessed says:

    May God bless you Beloved! You are a dearly beloved child of God!
    And so is Pooh! May God bless her and keep her, and shine His light on her.

    Numb 6:24-26

    And indeed, prayers for those who need it, in body mind and spirit!
    Let’s pray more together! God does miracles! He works on our prayers, He is waiting for our prayers!
    And I consider that what happened to my friend as a miracle from God! That what seemed to go the wrong way, (the low blood plates, and the consequently stopping of the chemo) was a blessing in disguise.
    May God be praised!
    He is good, good oh
    He is good, good oh
    and then an octave higher:
    He is good, good oh
    He is good, good oh
    (from the song: King of my heart)

  212. foreverblessed says:

    Song of Solomon 8:13
    You who dwell in the gardens, with friends in attendance,
    let me hear your voice!

  213. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you each and every one who offered best wishes for Matt on his birthday. He says to thank you as well.

    He had a rare good day.


  214. foreverblessed says:

    We keep praying for Matt, Steve!
    God is good!
    He hears all our prayers.

    May God be with Matt today again, may He give him a deep peace, deep inside his soul.

  215. foreverblessed says:

    Psalm 62:1-8

    Truly my soul finds rest in God;
    my salvation comes from him.
    Truly he is my rock and my salvation;
    he is my fortress, I will never be shaken.

    How long will you assault me?
    Would all of you throw me down—
    this leaning wall, this tottering fence?
    Surely they intend to topple me
    from my lofty place;
    they take delight in lies.
    With their mouths they bless,
    but in their hearts they curse.[b]

    Yes, my soul, find rest in God;
    my hope comes from him.
    Truly he is my rock and my salvation;
    he is my fortress, I will not be shaken.
    My salvation and my honor depend on God[c];
    he is my mighty rock, my refuge.
    Trust in him at all times, you people;
    pour out your hearts to him,
    for God is our refuge.

  216. SFDBWV says:

    You truly are a blessing to us all Foreverblessed, thank you for your love.

    Steve, Matt and Glenna

  217. poohpity says:

    Chemo kills not only the bad cells but the good ones too. Stopping chemo because of that which may cause a sooner death than the cancer because one’s blood will not clot which can cause them to bleed without the ability to stop it, it is also the bodies built in antibodies so a person is exposed to any sickness without the ability to fight it off. It is not because the cancer is getting better but because of the horrible damage the lack of platelets causes so they have to wait until the body’s white blood cells have time to build back up. So you see why I was saying it is not a good thing. Usually people with that are told not to go into the public or wear a mask if they do and use a lot of hand sanitizer because every little germ can cause them to get very sick without the body’s own immune or defense system in place to fight it off.

    Yes Viv sharing one’s own story can benefit others and it is their own right to do so where and when they want. It just shows a lot of respect to let them share it themselves because it is after all their own story other wise it is nothing more than just gossip. Many times when one shares another’s story they lack all the details to get it right so one never knows if it is just spreading false information or again the motivation behind it, to make them look good/bad or to make ourselves look good.

  218. bubbles says:

    forever, that “not knowing if it will come back” is very difficult. It is a thought that comes at all hours of the day and night. I will pray for your friend right now. Your friend is blessed to have you. I’ve found that many “friends” and family will run away when someone gets this problem. NOT ONE of my cousins called me throughout my ordeal that lasted a year. NOT ONE. I took a seven week leave of absence and my boss never contacted me once to see how I was doing. I returned and one of my bosses never said a word to me, not that I was missed, nothing. It’s good your friend has you.

  219. Beloved says:

    Sometimes people just simply don’t know what to say. As a trained hospice volunteer my work was often more with families, helping them verbalize what they were feeling so the patient could die in peace, once they knew their loved ones were at peace with letting them go.

  220. Beloved says:

    I was reminded this morning that Jesus is always there to comfort the sad, lonely and afflicted. He has been a comforter to me in my lonely grief and loss.

  221. poohpity says:

    My mom died from cancer as did her sister at age 49 and her daughter at age 37 as well my dad and his sister. I learned a lot about cancer in that process as well as the bad side effects of chemo, not only learned but watched it happening first hand. I know what the doctors told my mom because she did not want to know many details but the doctor’s explained them to me and I did a lot of research on my own so I would know what to look for and what questions to ask the doc and the nurses.

    So if you did not know that about me already I do research on just about everything so I can look at things from many sides to make informed decisions and to understand. That is also why I listen so closely to what others say so I can understand them as well and do not jump to conclusions about them. I like details. I guess that is why Johnny’s sentence “Defeat of Deduct went over Defense before Detail” makes sense.

  222. Beloved says:

    The primary leading of the Holy Spirit in the New Testament is to Holiness.
    RC Sproul

  223. poohpity says:

    Yes but one has to have a listening mind and heart to hear the gentle whispers of the Holy Spirit and usually no one can hear Him over the deafening noise of their own voice.

  224. Beloved says:

    Are you speaking of yourself or judging others pooh?

  225. Beloved says:

    Or are you quoting out of something you read?

  226. Beloved says:

    I remember reading how Paul wasn’t “listening” yet somehow Jesus got his attention. We are all fallen and hard of hearing but somehow God reaches out to us! He is LORD of all, after all.

  227. bubbles says:

    The text color and background of this site is aesthetically pleasing. Whoever designed this is appreciated. Always loved the cozy leather chair.

  228. Beloved says:

    In shady, green pastures, so rich and so sweet,
    God leads His dear children along;
    Where the water’s cool flow bathes the weary one’s feet,
    God leads His dear children along.

    Some through the waters, some through the flood,
    Some through the fire, but all through the blood;
    Some through great sorrow, but God gives a song,
    In the night season and all the day long.

    Sometimes on the mount where the sun shines so bright,
    God leads His dear children along;
    Sometimes in the valley, in darkest of night,
    God leads His dear children along.
    Though sorrows befall us and Satan oppose,
    God leads His dear children along;
    Through grace we can conquer, defeat all our foes,
    God leads His dear children along.
    Away from the mire, and away from the clay,
    God leads His dear children along;
    Away up in glory, eternity’s day,
    God leads His dear children along.

  229. street says:

    thinking about 4 generation rule….
    the all are sinners in adam rule….
    all condemned at the flood….
    just? sodom and gomorrah? ……
    then the individual and not the whole family….
    certain sins punishable by death rule….
    yet all die…..

    One Raised! Firstfruits?!?!

  230. jeff1 says:

    Today being mother’s day in the UK I will leave flowers on my mum’s grave and remember how she tried so hard to be the good mother that she was. I remember the good times and the bad but mostly her caring and protective nature towards us and it is in now being a mother myself that I appreciate the effort and sacrifice she made to be that person.

    We have a saying here that God couldn’t do it all Himself so He made mothers and I was blessed to have one of those mother’s as she rests in peace I and others like me remember them with loving kindness.

    Are All The Children In

    When I’m alone I often think of an old house on the hill
    Of a big yard hedged in roses where we ran and played at will
    And when the night time brought us home hushing our merry din
    Mother would look around and ask are all the children in
    Well it’s been many a year now and the old house on the hill
    No longer has my mother’s care and the yard is still so still
    But if I listen I can hear it all no matter how long it’s been
    I seem to hear my mother ask are all the children in
    And I wonder when the curtain falls on that last earthly day
    When we say goodbye to all of this to our pain and work and play
    When we step across the river where mother so long has been
    Will we hear ask her a final time are all the children in (I come)

  231. SFDBWV says:

    May God bless the memory of your mother Viv and bless you and all the mothers of the UK today as well.


  232. jeff1 says:

    Thank you Steve, I received beautiful flowers, cards and money from my sons today and I thank my lucky stars to have them as sons.

  233. Beloved says:

    Isaiah53 1 Who has believed our report? And to whom has the arm of the Lord been revealed? 2 For He shall grow up before Him as a tender plant, And as a root out of dry ground. He has no form or comeliness; And when we see Him, There is no beauty that we should desire Him. 3 He is despised and rejected by men, A Man of sorrows and acquainted with grief. And we hid, as it were, our faces from Him; He was despised, and we did not esteem Him.

    4 Surely He has borne our griefs And carried our sorrows; Yet we esteemed Him stricken, Smitten by God, and afflicted. 5 But He was wounded for our transgressions, He was bruised for our iniquities; The chastisement for our peace was upon Him, And by His stripes we are healed. 6 All we like sheep have gone astray; We have turned, every one, to his own way; And the Lord has laid on Him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and He was afflicted, Yet He opened not His mouth; He was led as a lamb to the slaughter, And as a sheep before its shearers is silent, So He opened not His mouth. 8 He was taken from prison and from judgment, And who will declare His generation? For He was cut off from the land of the living; For the transgressions of My people He was stricken. 9 And they made His grave with the wicked– But with the rich at His death, Because He had done no violence, Nor was any deceit in His mouth.

    10 Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise Him; He has put Him to grief. When You make His soul an offering for sin, He shall see His seed, He shall prolong His days, And the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in His hand. 11 He shall see the labor of His soul, and be satisfied. By His knowledge My righteous Servant shall justify many, For He shall bear their iniquities. 12 Therefore I will divide Him a portion with the great, And He shall divide the spoil with the strong, Because He poured out His soul unto death, And He was numbered with the transgressors, And He bore the sin of many, And made intercession for the transgressors.

  234. phpatato says:

    Proverbs 31:10-31…28-31

    28 Her children arise and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praises her: 29 “Many women do noble things, but you surpass them all.” 30 Charm is deceptive, and beauty is fleeting; but a woman who fears the LORD is to be praised. 31 Honor her for all that her hands have done, and let her works bring her praise at the city gate.

    HAPPY MOTHER’S DAY, Blessed (Jeff)!!!

  235. jeff1 says:

    Thank you phpatato for the verse as fits our role as mothers and may we all have a happy Mother’s Day and feel Blessed today in being and having one.

  236. SFDBWV says:

    Amen and Amen, Pat.


  237. street says:

    Imagine we are little Jonie. What do we see in those words? How can the God of Scripture expect us to make sense and a meaningful sentence out of words that seem to signal a God who promises to forgive parents while punishing their children and grandchildren?

    thinking about the conversation Jesus had in John 8:40-42

  238. jeff1 says:

    Evil opposes You, my Lord,
    And those You free from sin.
    It sneers and shouts its deadly lies
    And whispers here within.

    You are my shield, O living Christ,
    My truth, my strength, my light,
    My joy, my song throughout the day,
    My keeper through the night.

    I can lie down and safely rest,
    Secure in all You are –
    Unfailing light when all is dark,
    The Bright and Morning Star.

    You are salvation, O my God,
    Pure love in all You do,
    And all are holy, safe, and strong
    Who simply trust in You.

  239. street says:

    You are my shield, O living Christ,

    thinking of the belt of truth that goes all the way around and upholds all things.

    not like a blanket that is too short or too narrow.

  240. SFDBWV says:

    Mart’s final question “Would any of us look up long enough to stake our life, and spend our love on a God who is…” In reality asks the question; why do any of us believe.

    Was it because we were indoctrinated into Christianity from our parents at the earliest age, or a “road to Damascus” style intervention, or from some life experience? Do you believe because of some nagging emptiness in your life that has only been satisfied by accepting Christ?

    My guess is that it isn’t because you read or knew that the God of the Bible was, “Compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin.”

    If you did not know the difference between good and evil you would never know your need for forgiveness and for salvation.

    So what does that say to the story in the Garden when the devil was allowed to tempt Eve?

    Without the fall there was no need for a Savior.

    So which came first “the chicken or the egg?”

    For me there is no riddle. God is God and we are not.

    21 degrees f after a day of snow squalls and flurries all day yesterday and evening.


  241. poohpity says:

    Why I accepted Christ was exactly because I heard about God being, ““Compassionate and gracious, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin.” along with so many other things told about Him in the bible. How else would we know unless someone shared with us? It was after I heard that I experienced those very things in my life first hand. So it was I heard then experienced but I am very sure it was because the Lord opened by heart and drew me to hear about Him from someone in the first place. He knew that I would have a relationship with him before I was born.

  242. poohpity says:

    God knew I would need Him to get through this life and He was oh so very right.

  243. poohpity says:

    This is a prayer prayed by one who knows God and has experienced Him in his life;

    “O our God, we thank you and praise your glorious name! 14 But who am I, and who are my people, that we could give anything to you? Everything we have has come from you, and we give you only what you first gave us! 15 We are here for only a moment, visitors and strangers in the land as our ancestors were before us. Our days on earth are like a passing shadow, gone so soon without a trace.

    16 “O Lord our God, even this material we have gathered to build a Temple to honor your holy name comes from you! It all belongs to you!

  244. Beloved says:

    Amen Pooh!

  245. poohpity says:

    For any that are interested on facebook at Discover the Word page Mart is celebrating 50 years of being part of the ministry. So if anyone would like to write him a note of congratulations that would be a place to do it.

  246. jeff1 says:

    When I was younger I believed others who I have since discovered where being caught up in the hatred and violence of the time.

    It often made me wonder of how my dad could be so distant and single minded in his beliefs towards those of us running with the herd.

    How he could see our foolishness and blindness while I had convinced myself it was he who was foolish and blind.

    My dad was on the outside looking in and I was in the inside looking out and so our views looked very different.

    Fifty years on and I now have the view my dad had and know why his sight was so keen.

    In the midst of the evil I had decided God was on our side and of course my dad knew when it came to evil God has no part of it and the truth was I had distanced myself from God in thinking otherwise.

    When my heart was angry with those committing acts of terrorism against my side of the house I was excusing those from my side of the house for their acts as in my mind I justified their tit for tat actions believing that an eye for an eye was acceptable.

    My dad knew God in ways I never did and why he never seen as I seen.

    A Godly person knows God and is not drawn away by anger, blindness or the ungodliness of the day.

    There is a very big gap in proclaiming to know God and truly knowing God and my dad bridged that gap because he stayed focused on Jesus and when I asked him about suffering he would reply ‘Jesus Suffered’ and so his expectations where that to follow Jesus was to do likewise.

    The Bible is also full of suffering for righteousness sake and why Jesus’s disciples suffered in pursuit of it.

    When I cannot see, I remember when.
    What You’ve always done, You will do again.
    You will always be Who You’ve always been.
    Lord, I know You are God! You are God!

  247. Beloved says:

    50 years! Mart, you must have been a very bright 8 year old—friend of Johnny’s maybe?

  248. street says:

    27 “Lord Almighty, God of Israel, you have revealed this to your servant, saying, ‘I will build a house for you.’ So your servant has found courage to pray this prayer to you. 28 Sovereign Lord, you are God! Your covenant is trustworthy, and you have promised these good things to your servant.

  249. jeff1 says:

    Father, in this suffering,
    This deep and desperate darkness,
    Though I cannot feel You,
    I know You walk beside me.
    Broken and defenseless,
    Awash in waves of sorrow,
    Reason now is helpless,
    But faith is calmly resting
    In Christ, with Christ in You.

    Through this loss so bitter
    You give a gift more precious:
    Deeper, sweeter union
    With Christ, the Man of Sorrows.
    All is false and fleeting
    But You, my love, my Father!
    Suffering always passes,
    But joy is full forever
    In Christ, with Christ in You.

  250. Beloved says:

    Psalm 13:5-6 English Standard Version (ESV)

    5 But I have trusted in your steadfast love;
    my heart shall rejoice in your salvation.
    6 I will sing to the Lord,
    because he has dealt bountifully with me.

  251. jeff1 says:

    I am your salvation.
    I am Christ your Lord,
    Crucified and buried,
    Now alive forevermore;
    Crushed for your forgiveness,
    Broken for your sin,
    Risen for your endless joy
    And mighty now within.

    I am your salvation.
    Rest in me today.
    Don’t you know I’m with you
    And I listen as you pray?
    Fear and grief may gather.
    Doubt will do its best.
    Stand and simply trust in Me,
    And I will do the rest.

    Alpha and Omega,
    Ever on the throne –
    All you see will fade and die,
    And I will reign alone.
    I am your salvation.
    I am your reward.
    Boldly lose your life in Me
    And prove that I am Lord.

  252. poohpity says:

    That song Viv, reminds me of all of the times I try to do everything in my own strength or depend on my own wisdom and understanding rather than allowing God to do what He does best, provide. I guess when I want to do things myself God let’s me until that day when I finally let go and come to Him allowing Him to work in my life. Boy that is a day to rejoice in the Lord. We do not know how well God works in us until we let Him. Finally letting go of control which one has deceived their selves if they ever really thought they had it in the first place to a place of trust, rest and dependence filled with joy, assurance and peace allowing the Spirit to be all that God had intended our guide, companion, comforter, teacher, intercessor and friend.

  253. cbrown says:

    Good morning all! Todays “Our Daily Bread”,April 2, is titled “Unexplainable Love”. Online is included an “Insight” to the message. “The key word in today’s passage is glory (glorified) and is used five times in verses 31–32. Jesus describes His glory (being glorified), the glory of God (the Father), and the relationship between the two. The relationship is reciprocal: when Jesus is glorified, God is glorified; when God is glorified, Jesus is glorified.

    According to Strong’s concordance, glorify means “to ascribe weight by recognizing real substance (value). ‘Glorifying God’ means valuing Him for who He really is. For example, ‘giving (ascribing) glory to God’ personally acknowledges God in His true character (essence).”

    Jesus was revealed for who He really is; when He was revealed, He revealed the Father.

    The key verse today is John 13:34 “as I have loved you must love one another”.
    I think this “Daily Bread” is the answer to our riddle.In the picture above the people are looking for something.When they find it they will give it away. Love to all.

  254. SFDBWV says:

    You have done well in your search for truth Chris. Looking for God takes us many journeys and as we see the many facets of His “glory” we recognize we too are his glory as He carries the weight of our sins.

    Thank you for the reminder.


  255. jeff1 says:

    I noticed my dad’s discernment was good in knowing when to be Jesus’s hands and feet and when to to let go and let God.

    He didn’t get in God’s way because he never was a person who thought he knew better than anyone else and it was that humility that allowed him to trust God before anyone else.

    It is so easy to cross the line and play God rather than listen to Him and my dad had discipline in doing the latter and it was evident in his walk and talk that he knew how to put God first in his life.

  256. Beloved says:

    Good day friends,
    Reminded of Gods glory I thought of this:
    For my name’s sake I defer my anger, for the sake of my praise I restrain it for you, that I may not cut you off. . . . For my own sake, for my own sake, I do it, for how should my name be profaned? My glory I will not give to another. (Isaiah 48:9, 11)

    I’m thinking that whether we are ground into the dust or lifted to heights of acclaim it’s Gods perfect will that brings glory to Himself. Just thinking.

  257. Beloved says:

    I was just reading that Gods essence is a being that is complete, needing nothing and completely self sustaining. Whoa!

  258. foreverblessed says:

    The riddle solved: God’s unexplainable love for us!
    Thank you Chris!

    ‘giving (ascribing) glory to God’ personally acknowledges God in His true character (essence).”

    Then Moses said: Show me Your Glory!
    And the Lord said: I will cause all my goodness to pass in front of you, and I will proclaim My name,the Lord in your presence…

    Then the Lord came down in the cloud and stood there with him and proclaimedhis name, the Lord. And He passed in front of Moses, proclaiming:

    “The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet He does not leave the guilty unpunished, He visits the children and their childen for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation”

    Ex 33:18-19,34:3-7
    the Hebrew word is “visits” not “punishes”
    God visits, whatever that means?

  259. foreverblessed says:

    MacLaren’s exposition on Ex 34:7 He does not clear the guilty…
    “{3} Divine forgiveness and retributive justice both centre in the revelation of the Cross.

    To us this message comes. It was the hidden heart of the Mosaic system. It was the revelation of Sinai. To Israel it was ‘proclaimed’ in thunder and darkness, and the way of forgiveness and the harmony of righteousness and mercy were veiled.

    To us it is proclaimed from Calvary. There in full light the Lord passes before us and proclaims, ‘I am the Lord, the Lord God merciful and gracious.’ ‘Ye are come . . .unto Jesus.’ ‘See that ye refuse not Him that speaketh.’ ‘This is my Beloved Son, hear Him !’”

  260. jeff1 says:

    Years I spent in vanity and pride
    Caring not my Lord was crucified
    Knowing not it was for me He died
    On Calvary

    Mercy there was great, and grace was free
    Pardon there was multiplied to me
    There my burdened soul found liberty
    At Calvary

    By God’s Word at last my sin I learned;
    Then I trembled at the law I’d spurned
    Till my guilty soul imploring turned
    To Calvary

    Now I’ve given to Jesus everything
    Now I gladly own Him as my King
    Now my raptured soul can only sing
    Of Calvary!

    Oh, the love that drew salvation’s plan!
    Oh, the grace that brought it down to man!
    Oh, the mighty gulf that God did span
    At Calvary!

    Mercy there was great, and grace was free
    Pardon there was multiplied to me
    There my burdened soul found liberty
    At Calvary

    Now I’ve given to Jesus everything
    Now I gladly own Him as my King
    Now my raptured soul can only sing
    Of Calvary!

    Mercy there was great, and grace was free
    Pardon there was multiplied to me
    There my burdened soul found liberty
    At Calvary

    Mercy there was great, and grace was free
    At Calvary

  261. Beloved says:

    Search me, God, and know my heart;
    test me and know my anxious thoughts.
    See if there is any offensive way in me,
    and lead me in the way everlasting.

  262. jeff1 says:

    Thinking today of how easy it is to blind oneself. At the height of the troubles I can remember an English soldier saying to me for a religious country you sure knew how to hate each other. I was furious that he should make such a comment but 40 years on and I see now where he was coming from.

    How must it look to an outsider when believers seem no different to them who are not seeking God.

    How many times have I not heard my countrymen speak of those ungodly English and in the next breath/action behave ungodly themselves.

    Why is it so easy to see the speck in another’s eye and miss the plank in my own.

    To my way of thinking it comes from trying to play God rather than listening to Him and why I now understand the English soldiers view of our country.

    What happens when people become so hostile towards each other is that trust breaks down and when there is no trust then division comes and chaos follows as everyone believes their own truth.

    The English man had good reason to ask where does God come into this and today I can answer that question He doesn’t!

    My dad wasn’t following the crowd because he wasn’t blinded as to who was playing God and who was following Him!

    He examined himself and found himself lacking and knew whom to look to for his guidance and that speaks of a person seeking God’s will and not doing their own and calling it God’s because they believe in God and proclaim to know Him.

  263. poohpity says:

    Sounds like a very good reason not to look to other people or ourselves to boast in any spiritual matters but only to God. Seek God and boast about how wonderful, grace filled, compassionate, slow to anger, forgiving, merciful, loving, and good He is. To God be the glory for the great things He has done and will do. The glory is His, the source of all that was, is and is to come.

  264. poohpity says:

    Let God be the One who separates those who “say” they are His followers and those who actually are for only He knows what lies in the hearts and minds of mankind. Matt 3:12, 13:30,41

  265. poohpity says:

    The amount of time spent on judging the spirituality of another is time one could have spent on doing the good things that our salvation opened the doors for us to do and seeing the positive things that are happening around the world rather than all the bad.

  266. poohpity says:

    “I pray that your love will overflow more and more, and that you will keep on growing in knowledge and understanding. 10 For I want you to understand what really matters, so that you may live pure and blameless lives until the day of Christ’s return. 11 May you always be filled with the fruit of your salvation—the righteous character produced in your life by Jesus Christ—for this will bring much glory and praise to God.” Paul

  267. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, it took me 40 years to see what my father always knew so I was a very slow learner and that is why I can be patient in seeing the needs of others have to be met in God.

    You can tell others of God’s goodness but I had to experience God personally in my life before I was ready to listen and I expect there are many like me.

    If the Spirit moves you to do so then speak of God’s goodness but there is usually a time and a place.

    I don’t judge the spirituality but the behaviour of another as it is their behaviour that may cause concern but I believe it is better to pray for the person than confront them as confrontation often causes offence and not as effective as prayer.

    There are always people doing good in the world, Pooh, but they are not necessarily followers of Christ or that is what I find these days.

    There are people who do what is right but do not claim to believe or know Jesus and that is the complexity of the world today and why it is a difficult world to understand.

    I think God reveals to me as He sees fit depending on my walk with Him (growth) and why I cannot know or understand another.

    It is the work of God in us as individuals that matters and not how we view or judge each other.

    As I say I am a slow learner but trust God doesn’t give up and that is the comfort I would offer another that God doesn’t give up on us and I believe that goes for those who are not seeking God as well because He knows that ignorance of His ways is still widespread today as man has not done for the Gospel what God has done for man.

  268. Beloved says:

    I think this is amazing!

    Luke 6:35

    But love your enemies, and do good, and lend, expecting nothing in return, and your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High, for he is kind to the ungrateful and the evil.

  269. street says:

    i wonder if we are the third generation?

  270. jeff1 says:

    I will always be a person who feels more kindness to the victims of evil than to those committing evil and perhaps that is because I lived with violence and hatred from a teenager and seen the consequences of it.

    I will not judge their motives for that is for God to judge and not me but I feel anger towards those committing evil because it draws people away from God as they do not understand why He allows it.

    As I see it God has good reasons that I cannot see and He has given me Jesus to remind me of His love for me and so it is in Him I find rest and peace while on this earth.

    God is God and He has a much better view of the world than I have but I can trust His ways in doing what He has to in making it a better world for all.

    Faith is a gift as it is in trusting God I find peace without understanding the complexity of a fallen world.

    I’ve had many tears and sorrows,
    I’ve had questions for tomorrow,
    there’s been times I didn’t know right from wrong.
    But in every situation,
    God gave me blessed consulation,
    that my trials come to only make me strong.

    Through it all,
    through it all,
    I’ve learned to trust in Jesus,
    I’ve learned to trust in God.

    Through it all,
    through it all,
    I’ve learned to depend upon His Word.

    Verse 2
    I’ve been to lots of places,
    I’ve seen a lot of faces,
    there’s been times I felt so all alone.
    But in my lonely hours,
    yes, those precious lonely hours,
    Jesus lets me know that I was His own


    Verse 3
    I thank God for the mountains,
    and I thank Him for the valleys,
    I thank Him for the storms He brought me through.
    For if I’d never had a problem,
    I wouldn’t know God could solve them,
    I’d never know what faith in God could do

  271. Beloved says:

    There is good reason the sayings of Jesus are often called “hard”. Sometimes it’s easier to be a Pharisee, but only Jesus can save my soul. Trust and obey, as the old song goes.

  272. Beloved says:

    Giving away Jesus’s love for me is being a good steward. It’s also hard to keep to myself! Oh He’s wonderful!

  273. poohpity says:

    Oh well Viv, I guess for those who share the Good News they must stop until a person is ready to receive it but the problem with that is no one really knows when that time will be exactly so planting the seeds must continue until all have heard it.

    Also for those who can see the evil in others but totally defend it in themselves still have a journey of hate and bitterness to contend with until such time arises that self awareness overcomes finger pointing at others.

    It is all a process on the journey but why stay stuck in the same old thought processes and never move forward? When one makes a choice to blame or make excuses they will be forever chained to the past without a bright hope for the future or the joy found in embracing their own salvation from the evil that resides inside them. God said that evil lies in the hearts of ALL mankind but gives us a remedy so those who believe in that remedy can move forward with a different outlook and a change in character from His work. TGBTG

    Yes God can put it in the heart of anyone to do good even those who do not believe in Him because he is after all God and has used non-believers for centuries to accomplish what is right, good and just. Most often it is because His own children fail to do so but the work still needs to be done. We can be part of His plan or leave it to someone else because we are stuck and still focused in narcissism, unforgiveness, vengeance and hate.

    So does that mean that one has never really came to believe in the forgiveness, mercy and grace of God when they do not extend it to others? Only God knows maybe He is being patient until they have an aah-haa moment that will break those chains and life gets to hard by hanging on to the garbage then when one is willing to submit and trust in Him not in or of themselves they are set free.

    Look at how many years it has taken some Israelites but God never gives up on them even after God saved them from many terrors yet after they were saved they returned to the same old slop. They did not go to God for help so He stopped because they wanted to do things their way instead, so He let them and we saw/see how that has turned out.

  274. Beloved says:

    Ah ha! God sent them and us a Savior!!! Jesus Christ!

  275. Beloved says:

    Romans 11:25I want you to understand this mystery, dear brothers and sisters, so that you will not feel proud about yourselves. Some of the people of Israel have hard hearts, but this will last only until the full number of Gentiles comes to Christ.

  276. jeff1 says:

    My struggles with hate is what made me aware of the evil lurking inside of me and is what brought me to Jesus as I was being taken in by the religious people of my day.

    Also my dad was the example I needed in seeing I was following the wrong examples.

    Yes, I still get angry when I see evil in the world but I know it is righteous anger because I hate that it turns people away from God.

    For all Satan’s onslaughts on me throughout my life God has showed me that He is still orchestrating ‘good from evil’ and that is what I find awesome that He finds away to reassure me of His presence as I have doubted and wandered from God most of my life and yet He is faithful.

    Why me Lord
    What have I ever done
    To deserve even one
    Of the blessings I’ve known
    Why me Lord
    What did I ever do
    That was worth love from you
    And the kindness you’ve shown

    Lord help me, Jesus
    I’ve wasted it so
    Help me, Jesus
    I know what I am
    Now that I know
    That I’ve needed you so
    Help me, Jesus
    My soul’s in your hand

    Try me Lord
    If you think there’s a way
    That I can repay
    What I’ve taken from you
    Maybe Lord
    I can show someone else
    What I’ve been through myself
    On my way back to you

    Lord help me, Jesus
    I’ve wasted it so
    Help me, Jesus
    I know what I am
    Now that I know
    That I’ve needed you so
    Help me, Jesus
    My soul’s in your hand
    My soul’s in your hand

  277. Beloved says:

    Thinking of anger, Jesus got angry with the money changers who were taking advantage of people in His Fathers temple. Scripture says to “Be angry, but do not sin.” I think for me being angry is short lived, but forgiving is often needed over and over again.

  278. Beloved says:

    I learned from Jesus how and why to forgive.

  279. street says:

    There are six things the Lord hates,
    seven that are detestable to him:
    haughty eyes,
    a lying tongue,
    hands that shed innocent blood,
    a heart that devises wicked schemes,
    feet that are quick to rush into evil,
    a false witness who pours out lies
    and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

    22 “The eye is the lamp of the body; so then if your eye is clear, your whole body will be full of light.

    John 8:12 Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, “I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life.”

  280. street says:

    de feet of de duck went over de fence before de tail.

    this duck is slow……

  281. street says:

    they say people make choices with their feet, but their choice is made in their heart way before their feet move.

    wherever your treasure is their your heart will be.

    little children guard your hearts.

    Philippians 4:7
    And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus

    Luke 21:34
    “Be on guard, so that your hearts will not be weighted down with dissipation and drunkenness and the worries of life, and that day will not come on you suddenly like a trap;

    1 John 5:21
    Little children, guard yourselves from idols.

  282. street says:

    Deduct jumped over defense and detail landed before defeat.

  283. street says:

    thinking about forgiveness. the magnitude of the forgiveness available in Christ Jesus. God give your children strength to bear up under unrighteousness. strengthen the bars of the gates. let the light shine out of darkness.

  284. jeff1 says:

    Without You, O God, we are selfish and vain,
    Consumed with our glory, our comfort, our gain.
    Deceived by this world and the sin we ignore,
    We’re smiling and polished but wrong to the core.

    But Father, Your truth and Your unfailing love
    Engulf all the vastness of heaven above.
    Your holiness floods all the fathomless deep
    And all the creation You nurture and keep.

    Lord, You are the fountain, the source and the sea
    Of life and its glories, of all that will be,
    The ocean of peace, of all justice and right,
    The Good of all goodness, the Light of all light.

    We turn from the darkness and look up to You,
    So thirsty for all that is lovely and true.
    We ask Your forgiveness, Your rightness restored,
    Our Loving Creator, our Father, our Lord!

  285. street says:

    Imagine what would have happened if our first parents and their children had been allowed to live forever without any evidence that something had gone terribly wrong? Would anyone ever look back— without the pain of consequence— either our own choices— or of someone else

    that second look or second thought….should bring us back to, ” what did God say?”

  286. Beloved says:

    Would anyone ever look back? It makes me think of the disobedience of Lots wife. Seemed really harsh to me. God is serious when it comes to doing what is best for His loved ones. I’m so grateful to know Him. I am the first generation of repentant sinners as far as I know but sadly watch the sins of myself and previous generations being passed down to my grandchildren. Is there mercy? Yes. Is there forgiveness? Absolutely! Sin is so appealing but only for a season. Praying my loved ones will come to the end of their “season” before it’s too late, and become hard as a pillar of salt. God is good, all the time.

  287. Beloved says:

    I find this very comforting:

    Proverbs 16:9 English Standard Version (ESV)
    9 The heart of man plans his way,
    but the Lord establishes his steps.

  288. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, Belovend, that is reassuring!
    As long as I keep my eyes on Jesus,
    Hé knows!
    Whatever happens.
    I have had some ordeal this week:
    My house group leader has openly said to me:
    That she thought that it was not the Holy Spirit that has tought me the spiritual meaning of the sabbath. That I needed to be freed from a religious spirit. And that when I was freed I would see that it is good to give one day of the week to the Lord.

    It was strange, but I received such peace that night. A Derp peace!
    And as Beloved gave that Proverb 16:9,
    All is alright, just wait and see what God will do.

    I had to think about Andy Stanley, what Mart talked about a few months ago. Are we living under the Old Covenant or are we living under the New Covenant.
    Am I under the Law of Moses or
    am I under the Law of Jesus?

    So these days I have my eyes on Jesus, much more intense!
    Help me, lead me, I wait on You, my dear Lord!

    I share it here with you, because you know my way out of fundamentalism to the freedom IN Christ!

    I am no lawbreaker, I am under the law of Christ.
    That word is a legalistic word, I use it to show that when you say that you are not under the law anymore, it does not mean that you are free to do anything you want.

    My old man is crucified, I ought to believe that more:
    When I accepted Christ, I died with Him on the Cross, and I was raised with Him in the garden!

    God bless you all:
    Walk in the Newness of life that is in Jesus.

  289. foreverblessed says:

    A deep peace..

    At times like these, you can are:
    I am not that upset anymore!
    My discomfort about the judgment of another person, does not take away the inner peace, in fact, the peace that I sense is from above, it is Grace.
    So I cannot boast about it, it is not my doing, but the work of the Holy Spirit in me!

    What a greate God we have!
    God the Father
    God the Son
    God the Holy Spirit

    We are well taken care of!

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