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On the Other Side

In the Garden of the Olive Press, Peter was too tired to pray with the One who had prayed for him (Luke 22:31-32). In the cold darkness that followed, he denied ever knowing the teacher from Nazareth.

If Jesus hadn’t done for Peter what Peter couldn’t do for Jesus, who can imagine what the rest of his life, or ours, would have looked like?

If Jesus hadn’t risen from the dead, how would someone who made such a fool of himself have ever known that our worst mistakes are not greater than the mercy of the One who has done for us what we couldn’t do for ourselves?

Only on the other side of the best morning the world has ever known, could Peter or anyone else have ever known why it is better to have lived than to have never lived at all.

 


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  1. SFDBWV says:

    Happy Easter everyone.

    Tears may endure for the night, but joy comes In the morning.

    Steve

  2. bullwinkle says:

    Happy Easter one and all.

    We can celebrate today, the tomb is empty. Jesus has paid the penalty of our/my sin and we are free to live in Him.

    Attended a wonderful Easter Cantata last evening. Even though I don’t do it well, I am still singing Overcome. It was a beautiful reminder of what Christ has done for all of us.

  3. poohpity says:

    As C.S. Lewis once noted, Christianity is the only religion with a real concept of grace. Other religions command we do certain things to be accepted by God. Christianity teaches that God has already accepted us which is why we live a new life of meaning and purpose.

    God loves us. He sent his son to die for us that we might have eternal life. All we must do is put our faith in Christ as our Lord and Savior. The message of the Easter season is one of grace, forgiveness and redemption. Christ died that we might live. His very being is a truth we all need.

  4. poohpity says:

    Your life will be truly blessed if you live the other 364 days of the year based on what you believe about this Resurrection Sunday!

  5. phpatato says:

    I am working on becoming a beautiful butterfly, Mart.

    One day. By God’s grace. In His protection. One day.

    Why seek ye the living among the dead?
    He is not here, but is risen

    Blessed Easter to all.

  6. Beloved says:

    If Jesus hadn’t risen from the dead, how would someone who made such a fool of himself have ever known that our worst mistakes are not greater than the mercy of the One who has done for us what we couldn’t do for ourselves?

    A good reminder each morning and evening. Blessed Easter!

  7. street says:

    on the way home from church today i was thinking of a cup.
    the verse set your mind on things above.
    to set- i believe means to rest on or in. at peace. set your mind on the foundation of Christ. a rock was cut out, but not by human hands.
    thinking of the joy we often forfeit.
    Jesus said, “I will give you rest.”

    we are told our hearts are circumcised without human hands in Colossians 2:11
    and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;

    given a new spirit, the gift of God.
    alive in mortal flesh.
    peace with God.

    seems the mind needs to catch up to the heart. renewed daily.

  8. bratimus says:

    Happy Easter Everyone

    Have a Blessed Day

    The Brat

  9. bubbles says:

    Happy Easter: It’s the best day of the year. Thankful for the hope of Easter.
    Thankful for Jesus’ sacrifice and rising again. My heart is full.

    Today in church, the choir sang a song and before it ended, people began applauding. Now, we are Baptists, and we are quiet people. Yes, we joke about being quiet. And then as the song began to end, applause began and someone actually shouted out loud. It was pure praise to God. I’ve never been in a church service where this happened. And it was the song, and the words, and just pure praise that happened. I get tears thinking about it now. Imagine stating around the throne of God and singing praise to HIm. Won’t that be something?

  10. poohpity says:

    The night ended with “The Shack” on the Lifetime channel. The icing on the cake for yesterday.

  11. poohpity says:

    I can not only imagine standing around the throne of God praising Him in heaven but doing it everyday now to practice for that day.

    I Can Only Imagine
    MercyMe

    I can only imagine what it will be like
    When I walk, by your side
    I can only imagine what my eyes will see
    When your face is before me
    I can only imagine
    I can only imagine

    Surrounded by Your glory
    What will my heart feel
    Will I dance for you Jesus
    Or in awe of You be still
    Will I stand in your presence
    Or to my knees will I fall
    Will I sing hallelujah
    Will I be able to speak at all
    I can only imagine
    I can only imagine

    I can only imagine when that day comes
    When I find myself standing in the Son
    I can only imagine when all I would do is forever
    Forever worship You
    I can only imagine
    I can only imagine

    Surrounded by Your glory
    What will my heart feel
    Will I dance for You, Jesus
    Or in awe of you be still
    Will I stand in your presence
    Or to my knees will I fall
    Will I sing hallelujah
    Will I be able to speak at all
    I can only imagine

    I can only imagine when all I will do
    Is forever, forever worship You
    I can only imagine

  12. poohpity says:

    Forever starts today.

  13. Beloved says:

    Bubbles I was in a Charismatic church for about 15 years. Yes the worship was wonderful with everybody praising God with personal words of intimacy praise trust hope and devotion. It was wonderful and I often felt as though we were standing before the throne!

  14. street says:

    If Jesus hadn’t done for Peter what Peter couldn’t do for Jesus, who can imagine what the rest of his life, or ours, would have looked like? hidden in Christ comes to mind. one thing for sure it is lively!

  15. street says:

    that our worst mistakes are not greater than the mercy of the One who has done for us what we couldn’t do for ourselves?

    that God is Greater than creation, we tend to be deceived otherwise.

  16. street says:

    Only on the other side of the best morning the world has ever known, could Peter or anyone else have ever known why it is better to have lived than to have never lived at all.

    better to know God than to not have know Him?

    not good for man to be alone.

    to rest in His presents.

    faith comes by hearing and hearing comes by the Word of God.

  17. Beloved says:

    Very inciteful, thanks.

  18. Beloved says:

    Insightful, rather.

  19. Beloved says:

    Jesus lives, and so shall I,

    Death! thy sting is gone forever.

    He who deigned for me to die,

    Lives, the bands of death to sever.

    He shall raise me with the just:

    Jesus is my hope and trust.

    Jesus lives and reigns supreme;

    And, His kingdom still remaining,

    I shall also be with Him,

    Ever living, ever reigning.

    God has promised: be it must;

    Jesus is my hope and trust.

    Jesus lives, I know full well,

    Naught from Him my heart can sever,

    Life nor death nor pow’rs of hell,

    Joy nor grief, henceforth forever.

    None of all His saints is lost;

    Jesus is my hope and trust.

    Jesus lives, and death is now

    But my entrance into glory.

    Courage, then, my soul,

    For thou hast a crown of life before thee;

    Thou shalt find thy hopes were just;

    Jesus is the Christian’s trust.

  20. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks Beloved,
    those words were good!
    What a beautiful songs we have, because of Jesus:
    Cross and Resurrection

    What a beautiful time Easter is!
    It made a deep impression on me, while every year it is the same, every day in fact!
    I was smiling when I read the report of Bubbles’church, that was good:
    Enthusiasm in quiet people.
    But it is a real big thing:
    The Cross
    The Resurrection

  21. foreverblessed says:

    I did learn something new this year, although, I have to admit, I had heard it before, but it did not sink in, or sometimes I think, that when we see the deeper meaning of what Jesus has done, it feels like NEW, something new!

    But we had the 7 wonders of the Cross video: Jesus was bleeding 7 times for us, just as the Day of Atonement had been described, the high priest had to sprinkle 7 times in Leviticus 16,

    I know that the first time I heard this, years ago, it made a deep impression on me that Jesus was bleeding because of the crown of thorns: He even took the consequences of our sins upon Him. The curse of the sin was also taken up in the Cross.

    But this time, the last bleeding Jesus did, the 7th, was at the end, when a soldier peirced His side, water and blood came out.

    What is the meaning of that piercing at the side, water and blood.
    The pastor explained: It is the miracle of Rebirth, the spiritual rebirth because of the Cross:
    We were crucified with Christ on that Cross, and can now live in Newness of life
    Just as when a baby is born, water and blood come out.

    Just as Adam was taken a rib from his side, and Eve was formed, so from the side of Jesus, a Bride is formed:
    The body of believers
    that is us together, all of us, having been born from above, the saints, as the song just above goes,

    The Bride is taken from the side of Jesus,

    that thought is new to me, and I am amazed at it!
    There is so much wisdom, and pearls in knowing Jesus.
    Everything was planned, way way back, at the beginning of time.
    Eve was not an afterthought of God, but all preciously prethought about, and carefully performed.

    Adam was a type of Jesus, and Eve a type of the Bride.

    From beginning to end Jesus is portrayed in the Bible.
    Jesus and the Bride…

  22. foreverblessed says:

    The water and the blood
    1 John 5:6
    This is the one who came by water and blood
    —Jesus Christ.

    4 for everyone born of God overcomes the world. This is the victory that has overcome the world, even our faith. 5 Who is it that overcomes the world? Only the one who believes that Jesus is the Son of God.

    6 This is the one who came by water and blood—Jesus Christ. He did not come by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit who testifies, because the Spirit is the truth. 7 For there are three that testify: 8 the[a] Spirit, the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement. 9 We accept human testimony, but God’s testimony is greater because it is the testimony of God, which he has given about his Son. 10 Whoever believes in the Son of God accepts this testimony….
    1 John 5:4-10

  23. foreverblessed says:

    Often have I wondered at these bible verses:
    Jesus did not come by water only, but by water and blood.
    Maybe now I get the meaning of it, just a little bit.
    Oh, there is such a spiritual wealth in living with Christ!

    What Mart is trying to say, I have to let to sink it in.
    But that it is the amazement of a life we can have in the Risen Christ,
    that that is wonderful!

    And that life is by the water and the blood.

  24. Beloved says:

    That’s very interesting Forever about the water and blood pouring out from Jesus side. I’ll have to take a closer look, although I just read something about it a few weeks ago I forgot already! As I get older it’s even more important I stay in the scriptures to keep things fresh in my mind, blessings every day!

  25. poohpity says:

    If there was no resurrection then our faith is worthless. (1 Cor 15:14 NLT) Three men were hung that day but only One was raised to life again because not even death could hold Him. It is the basis of our salvation (Romans 10:9-10). It is the basis for hope and a new life. (2 Cor 5:17).

    John 16: “But now I am going away to the one who sent me(through the resurrection), and not one of you is asking where I am going. 6 Instead, you grieve because of what I’ve told you. 7 But in fact, it is best for you that I go away, because if I don’t, the Advocate won’t come. If I do go away, then I will send him to you. 8 And when he comes, he will convict the world of its sin, and of God’s righteousness, and of the coming judgment. 9 The world’s sin is that it refuses to believe in me. 10 Righteousness is available because I go to the Father, and you will see me no more. 11 Judgment will come because the ruler of this world has already been judged.

    Without the resurrection there is no new life, real life. There would be no understanding of scripture, no guidance, no comfort, NO RELATIONSHIP.

    The pieced side was proof there was death without that belief then the resurrection has no meaning if Jesus was not in fact dead. Science shows the reason it was blood and water that came pouring out, that separation was the evidence and the fulfillment of prophesy that not one bone would be broken as the soldiers did to the others who were crucified their knees were broken to hasten death but Jesus was already dead hence the blood and water.

  26. poohpity says:

    There would be no “On the Other Side” without the resurrection.

  27. Beloved says:

    Forever I’m not quite convinced about the Bride being birthed from Jesus’ side, but, from my own reading of I John5 I am convinced that as John says the water blood spirit are the trinity of God, proof of His involvement in human history. And in His existence and work of atonement for humanity.

  28. street says:

    some thoughts…
    there can be no resurrection unless there is a death first.

    sin took care of the death part. Holy Sovereignty of God here.

    God took care of the life part.

    as for the water and the blood that did flow from the Saviors side that day. i have understood it was grace and life that did flow. it was recorded when it began. those who died with Christ shall be raised up with Him.

    there is no life apart from God. for He is life, The I AM.

    The Father raised Him up and seated Him at His Right Hand. The place of Blessing and Rule so that He would be honored by all creation for/to the Glory of God.
    thinking how could Goodness and Greatness not be Glorious! Blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the Kingdom of heaven.

  29. SFDBWV says:

    Praying for our brothers and sisters in Sri Lanka.

    Doesn’t matter if you are a believer, an atheist, agnostic or just plain difficult to get along with, after the news of Jesus’ resurrection and Pentecost the world was changed forever.

    It’s been a battle that will end when He returns, but not before.

    Steve

  30. poohpity says:

    Hasn’t the battle already been won?

    Victory In Jesus

    I heard an old, old story, how a Savior came from glory (how He gave His life)
    How He gave His life on Calvary to save a wretch like me
    I heard about His groaning, (of His blood’s atoning) of His precious blood’s atoning
    Then I repented (repented) of my sins (repented of my sins) and won the victory
    Oh victory in Jesus (victory in Jesus), my Savior (my Savior) forever (forever)
    He sought me and He bought me with His redeeming blood (bought me with His blood)
    He loved me ‘ere I knew Him and all my love is due Him
    He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood
    I heard about His healing, of His cleansing power revealing
    How He made the lame to walk again and caused the blind to see
    And then I cried, ”
    Dear Jesus, come and heal my broken spirit”
    I then obeyed His blest command and gained the victory
    I heard about a mansion He has built for me in glory
    And I heard about the street of gold beyond the crystal sea (beyond the crystal sea)
    About the angels singing (the angels are singing) and the old redemption story
    Oh and some sweet day I’ll sing up there the song of victory
    He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood
    He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood
    I’ve got a victory in Jesus
    You’ve got a victory in Jesus

  31. Beloved says:

    O sing ye hallelujah! ’Tis good our God to praise.
    ’Tis pleasant and becoming to Him our songs to raise;
    He builds the walls of Zion, He seeks her wandering sons;
    He binds their wounds and comforts the brokenhearted ones.

    The starry hosts He numbers, He calls them all by name;
    His greatness and His wisdom His wondrous works proclaim;
    The meek He lifts to honor, He humbles sinful pride.
    Give thanks to Him and utter His praises far and wide.

    The heav’ns with clouds He covers, He sends the cheering rain;
    The slopes of all the mountains He fills with grass and grain;
    To beast and bird His goodness their daily food supplies;
    He cares for all His creatures, attentive to their cries.

    No human power delights Him, no earthly pomp or pride;
    He loves the meek who fear Him and in His love confide;
    Then praise thy God, O Zion, His gracious aid confess;
    He gives thee peace and plenty, His gifts thy children bless.

    He sends His swift commandment, and snow and ice enfold
    The world, and none are able to stand before His cold.
    Again He gives commandment: The winds of summer blow,
    The snow and ice are melted, again the waters flow.

    His statues and His judgments He makes His people know;
    To them as to no others His grace He loves to show;
    For matchless grace and mercy your grateful praises bring;
    To give Him thanks forever and hallelujah sing.
    By John B Dyke

  32. foreverblessed says:

    Ha ha Beloved, that is what my husband also said: That is a little bit farfetched!
    The bride from the side of Jesus….

    Maybe that is why I do not remember this from years ago, maybe I layed it aside immediately: not relevant…

    But now it makes perfectly sense to me!
    The water and blood from 1 John 5 is about the water and blood and Spirit testifying about Jesus.
    Later it was added about the Trinity.
    “Later manuscripts of the Vulgate added:
    testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and there are three that testify on earth: the” verse 7 and 8.

    John was making a point here, about the water and blood that testify about Jesus.

    We have the wonder of our rebirth, each one of us, who believe in Christ.
    Because of the water and the blood…
    And each one, one by one, but we make up the Bride, the Body of believers.

    Anyway, this is not terribly important.
    Although it made such great sense to me, that when the Word was describing creation, He had already in mind the redeeming action of Jesus Christ, to make His Bride.
    Amam and Eve….

    I always found that rib part a bit curious, but now I find it very very important!
    All pre-thought…

    Everything is connected, and everything has a deeper meaning to it.

    We will know all when in heaven. Maybe even then not all…. but slowly more and more.

    Jesus our Savior.

    Anyway, the point of this topic is,
    Death and Resurrection:

    that we died at the side of Jesus on the Cross,
    and that we are reborn to life with Him

  33. foreverblessed says:

    Today in My Utmost:

    “Unless the worker lives a life that “is hidden with Christ in God” (Colossians 3:3), he is apt to become an irritating dictator to others, instead of an active, living disciple. Many of us are dictators, dictating our desires to individuals and to groups. But Jesus never dictates to us in that way. Whenever our Lord talked about discipleship, He always prefaced His words with an “if,” never with the forceful or dogmatic statement— “You must.” Discipleship carries with it an option.

    Tough message!
    in No way do I want to dictate anybody how to view certain bible verses.
    Really, I only want to show what the deeper meaning could be!
    Could be…

  34. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning (here) Foreverblessed, when Matthew (my son) was in the hospital, from his wreck, he had a collapsed right lung and broken ribs. After re-inflating his lung they put a tube in his side that drained blood and water from his chest cavity for several days.

    Watching it drain reminded me of the event of spearing Jesus in His side.

    Of course with regards to Jesus the prophesy was that the sacrificial Lamb had no broken bones and so when the Roman guards were told to finish off the three men on their crosses they took their swords and broke the legs of the other two so they would finish suffocating but when they came to Jesus who was already dead by His own power, they made sure by piercing His side.

    The famous “Shroud of Turin” not only shows the wound, but there are stains from the water and blood still in the shroud.

    Having read a book about the “Shroud” medical examiners remarked about how water and blood would have gathered in the chest cavity of Jesus as he hung there on the cross.

    Crucifixion was a very tortured death, leading to the eventual suffocation of the individual.

    However Jesus simply said “it is finished” and by His own power gave up His Spirit and His body void of Spirit, died.

    The revelation knowledge you have learned is for you. How well I know how it is when we are given such an enlightenment from God that we want to share it with everyone. However this knowledge is given to you and another may not yet be ready to receive it.

    And so goes the frustration of our personal life with Jesus. Some others see and understand while some others don’t. Unfortunately the ones that don’t tend to want to argue rather than just be happy for your enlightenment.

    I pray your day is peaceful, filled with blessings and enjoyed.

    Steve

  35. jeff1 says:

    Very much what happened in our country, Forever, religious people deciding they knew best rather than following God’s ways. Speaking because I am guilty of doing it.

    My dad tried to correct me but he never tried to force it because he knew he couldn’t as I was focused on the injustice of what our enemies were doing and while I was focused on that I condoned the violence of my own side against the other because I only seen their wrong and not my own.

    I must be focused on Jesus and His ways or I loose sight of God’s enlightenment without even realising that God is no longer present in my seeing.

    I blinded myself to the gospel in pursuit of what I believed to be justice when God was trying to draw me to His truths which are beyond historical differences in politics and religion which divide individuals and countries because God’s presence is absent from such controversies.

    It is why my dad knew God and I did not as he knew whom to put first in his life and he had the discipline to carry it through.

    Discipleship requires the discipline and if we look at Jesus’s earlier followers we see that is prevalent to knowing God as best we can know Him while walking this earth.

  36. jeff1 says:

    1. There is a green hill far away,
    Without a city wall,
    Where the dear Lord was crucified,
    Who died to save us all.

    2. We may not know, we cannot tell,
    What pains he had to bear,
    But we believe it was for us
    He hung and suffered there.

    3. There was no other good enough
    To pay the price of sin.
    He only could unlock the gate
    Of heav’n and let us in.

    4. Oh, dearly, dearly has he loved!
    And we must love him too,
    And trust in his redeeming blood,
    And try his works to do

  37. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Viv, I seen last week a story in the news of another bombing in Belfast and immediately thought of you.

    As I follow the news concerning the bombings in Sri Lanka, I see today that the men who carried it out were “highly” educated people from middle class families. The motive behind the murders were in retaliation for the killings of Islamist’s in New Zealand and their belief that there is only to be one religion “Islam”.

    It always amazes me how people who believe in their “god” think that their god can’t wipe out the unbelievers by himself, but rather it up to them to do it.

    Religious beliefs are taught from one generation to the next, sadly so are hatred, bigotry and evil.

    Thank you for your songs each morning, I do enjoy the poetry they recite.

    Steve

  38. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Steve, I spent my Easter in Westport in Southern Ireland, to me, as I am a Northerner as it is good to get away from the conflict.

    During our talk with some Canadians I said that it always seems that men will fight over land and therefor it is best to look to God and be at peace.

    When sitting having a cool drink enjoying the sunshine we ask a man sitting beside us who was the statue of and he replied it was of St Patrick.

    We believing that St Patrick was from Downpatrick in the North said to him your patron Saint is an Northerner and he replied, no, he was a Welsh man, and laughed and said our patron Saint was a Brit.

    I sometimes think God has a sense of humour as I could not help but notice that in this traditional Irish town there is still very little time for the British which is why history seems to repeat itself.

    I think of this quote from C. S. Lewis: Quote: “No man knows how bad he is till he has tried very hard to be good.”

    I think about it because I can relate very well to it as it was in trying to be good that I discovered I was trying to do the impossible.

    “God Is Good All The Time”

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    If you’re walking through the valley
    And there are shadows all around
    Do not fear, He will guide you

    He will keep you safe and sound
    He has promised to never leave you
    Nor forsake you, and His word is true

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in the heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    We were sinners and so unworthy
    Still for us He chose to die
    Filled us with His Holy Spirit

    Now we can stand and testify
    That His love is everlasting
    And His mercies, they will never end

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    Though I may not understand
    All the plans you have for me
    My life is in your hands
    And through the eyes of faith
    I can clearly see

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in the heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

  39. street says:

    Religious beliefs are taught from one generation to the next, sadly so are hatred, bigotry and evil.

    i think these come from man separated from God. born in sin…steeped in sin comes to mind, but God Who loves poor broken lame wretches gave them a covering, a new Spirit, a circumcised heart, and a renewed mind daily. seems like He gives us love joy peace…..too. do likewise. what you did to the least of these you did to Me. give yourself to God first the rest will fall into place. these other things will be added too. could worship be the beginning and end in and of it’s self? home rule in Spirit and Truth. the increase of His rule and peace there will be no end.

  40. Beloved says:

    Dear Forever I’m glad to hear you are not upset or hurt because of my comment to you. Just my thought (been thinking) and I know you are ever learning! I love that about you, as I am also. We all learn as God gives us grace to learn Truth. It all and only comes from God! Praise and bless Him forever (always). We can read books and commentaries of various kinds but we get Truth from the mind of Christ, always, as it was in the beginning before creation till now. The increase of His rule and peace there shall be no end!! AMEN!

  41. Beloved says:

    Fix you eyes on Jesus the author and finisher of your faith. And the things of earth will grow strangely dim…In the light of His glory and grace.

  42. Beloved says:

    Some used to tell me I was too heavenly minded to be of any earthly good, and I used to feel offended, but the jokes on them! I pray for their peace found only with Christ.

  43. Beloved says:

    Unfortunately the ones that don’t tend to want to argue rather than just be happy for your enlightenment.

    Steve I was not trying to argue with Forever. Just posting my thoughts on the subject at hand. Disagreement or rather questioning is one way we learn to think. Thinking is good. Just ask Mart, lol!

  44. Beloved says:

    We can be “happy” for someone that their fish fry was a success, but spiritual matters are different, I think, as they have eternal consequences not just temporal. Been thinking is always about spiritual matters, right? Well Steve I hope I haven royally p#%*~*d you off. Just thinking about thinking. Love you because of Jesus.

  45. Beloved says:

    One thing further….admittedly I’m not good at apologetics like Jesus was but maybe I should work on that? Street is very good. Thanks for the good example street.

  46. street says:

    On the Other Side
    steve said,
    The revelation knowledge you have learned is for you. How well I know how it is when we are given such an enlightenment from God that we want to share it with everyone. However this knowledge is given to you and another may not yet be ready to receive it.

    so true steve, yet i wonder how to transfer such wealth to unsuspecting paupers in a way that makes them rich and glorifies God? truly a time for prayer.

  47. SFDBWV says:

    God love you street if you can figure that one out please share it with us all especially me.

    Far too often I hit a brick wall, blank stares or indignation rather then genuine curiosity, but for those rarest of occasions when someone says tell me more I am all too ready to share it all and am blessed beyond explanation when they get it too.

    Steve

  48. Beloved says:

    I believe it’s the Spirit that transfers Truth. We just proclaim then get out of His way. Humble servants, mendicots.

  49. street says:

    i think it is because they can not receive it and are building their own righteousness. i think pure religion is visiting widows and orphans in their distress. like the woman caught in adultery or the demonic living in the tombs on the fringe of a society that is comfortable with that. society likes neat clean efficient, not faithfulness holiness love/sacrifice/selflessness. i live in a house i did not build and think of all the things that over time built this temporary structure that i benefit from. yet we are told that God is building a house for david. this tent will pass away, but that which is in Christ will remain. yes we want a covering that will last. Righteousness looks really good from here. yet we are not. the good news looks even better! thinking of the disciples not being able to cast out demon from the son. Jesus said it can only come about by pray and fasting. thinking of the story of the two wolves where the dominate one is the one that gets fed. obedience is feeding time for the saint and this is by faith. self usually gets in the way. i here the other side is a very board place. it’s the going in out that drives me crazy! thinking of daniel struggling in prayer for a long time. the innocent do suffer, but not in vain. their Redeemer is quite powerful. praying for the oppressor is the most God honoring. Jesus prayed that God would forgive them, they know not what they do. thinking of job’s friends. it seems the righteous ones have a common hope.

  50. Beloved says:

    Righteousness looks really good from here. yet we are not.

    I may be misunderstanding but isn’t Christ’s righteousness imputed to us? Romans 3:22 If so, I spend way too much time condemning myself for not living up to self-righteous expectations and not enough time worshipping in thought word and of course deed. Need to remind myself daily Who’s I am and why I exist at all. It gives reason to my joy of knowing God and thanks for being created!

  51. Beloved says:

    BTW,

    Anything I say here is trivial at best. Not to be taken seriously as I am needy for love and acceptance. Wondering how that plays into my participation? I know who I am without Christ and it’s pretty ugly. Being made New because of Jesus is my hope and blessing! A real new creation in Christ!

  52. street says:

    your doing fine beloved. abraham believed God and it was credited to him as righteousness. good news!

    thinking about the relationship abraham had with God. it is encouraging for the rest of us. so close and so understood that he took his only son on a three day journey. to trust Him with all your heart. to know when He is speaking and when He is not. the gift of God.

  53. poohpity says:

    For those not grounded in truth they will be forever deceived and captured by high sounding nonsense.(Col 2:8 NLT)

  54. poohpity says:

    John 12:43 NLT

  55. street says:

    Matthew 5:20
    For I tell you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the Pharisees and the teachers of the law, you will certainly not enter the kingdom of heaven.

    Luke 1:3-5
    3 With this in mind, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, I too decided to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4 so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

    John 17:8
    For I gave them the words you gave me and they accepted them. They knew with certainty that I came from you, and they believed that you sent me.

    Romans 6:5
    For if we have been united with him in a death like his, we will certainly also be united with him in a resurrection like his.

    Hebrews 4:7
    God again set a certain day, calling it “Today.” This he did when a long time later he spoke through David, as in the passage already quoted: “Today, if you hear his voice, do not harden your hearts.”

    6 What shall we say, then? Shall we go on sinning so that grace may increase? 2 By no means! We are those who have died to sin; how can we live in it any longer?

    2 Peter 1:9-11
    9 For he who lacks these qualities is blind or short-sighted, having forgotten his purification from his former sins. 10 Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble; 11 for in this way the entrance into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ will be abundantly supplied to you.

  56. poohpity says:

    street, what were the things that Luke was teaching? What were the words Jesus gave to His disciples in that John verse? What are the qualities that Peter speaks of in 2 Peter and what are we to practice?

  57. SFDBWV says:

    I do the LA Times crossword puzzle every morning, it comes in my daily newspaper. Along with the crossword puzzle is a “Celebrity Cipher” which is a quote from a famous person in cryptogram form and in order to solve it you need to decode it.

    One such answer was for me particularly annoying. It stated that the idea of death and resurrection was not confined to Christian theology, but is actually found in numerous religions of mankind throughout the history of man.

    The quote came during the Easter season and I interpreted it to be a “rub” against Christianity.

    Of course if you look at anthropology and the history of the religions of man you find human sacrifice abundant in the religious activity of the ancient past.

    If you read Psalms 106:37-38 KJV even the Scripture speaks of it.

    The great difference being the resurrection evidenced by actual witnesses who indwelt with the Holy Spirt were empowered to tell the story to people empowered to receive it.

    Just like the story of Noah, who found “grace” in the eyes of the Lord. Everyone else was blind and deaf to what was coming. But Noah and his family were saved and safe in the ark and we too who have been afforded grace because of Jesus are saved and safe in the Ark because we were anointed to receive the Truth.

    The Greek intellectuals were at first repelled intellectually by the idea that anyone could return from the dead, but over time as the rest of the story became known to them Greek culture was forever changed as the story of Jesus became accepted as Truth.

    Once again art copies life, when you hear Agent Mulder from the old TV show X files say “The truth is out there.” The truth is, that the Truth *is* out there. If you are blind and deaf to accepting it you never will be able to hear anything but your own voice.

    Steve

  58. poohpity says:

    Didn’t even agent Mulder search for truth rather than just thinking it would come to him with no effort or desire to know it on his part? Just as David sought after God’s own heart.

    Jesus is the truth and He knows those who seek and search for Him. John 8:31-32, 10:14; 1 Cor 8:3; 1 Peter 2:2-3

    God knows those who are satisfied with drinking spiritual milk being satisfied with only that. Hebrews 5:12-13

  59. poohpity says:

    Jesus said, ““You are permitted to understand the secrets of the Kingdom of Heaven, but others are not. 12 To those who listen to my teaching, more understanding will be given, and they will have an abundance of knowledge. But for those who are not listening, even what little understanding they have will be taken away from them. 13 That is why I use these parables,
    For they look, but they don’t really see.
    They hear, but they don’t really listen or understand….

    18 “Now listen to the explanation of the parable about the farmer planting seeds: 19 The seed that fell on the footpath represents those who hear the message about the Kingdom and don’t understand it. Then the evil one comes and snatches away the seed that was planted in their hearts. 20 The seed on the rocky soil represents those who hear the message and immediately receive it with joy. 21 But since they don’t have deep roots, they don’t last long. They fall away as soon as they have problems or are persecuted for believing God’s word. 22 The seed that fell among the thorns represents those who hear God’s word, but all too quickly the message is crowded out by the worries of this life and the lure of wealth, so no fruit is produced. 23 The seed that fell on good soil represents those who truly hear and understand God’s word and produce a harvest of thirty, sixty, or even a hundred times as much as had been planted!”

  60. foreverblessed says:

    THis I found yesterday, while looking at the history of England on Wikipedia, (you might think, How do I get there when doing a search on England, but that is how it goes….)

    Dionysius Acts 17:34

    “Saint Dionysius the Areopagite (/ˌdaɪəˈnɪsiəs/; Greek: Διονύσιος ὁ Ἀρεοπαγίτης Dionysios ho Areopagitês) was a judge at the Areopagus Court in Athens who lived in the first century. As related in the Acts of the Apostles (Acts 17:34), he was converted to Christianity by the preaching of Paul the Apostle during the Areopagus sermon. According to Dionysius, Bishop of Corinth, as quoted by Eusebius. He was one of the first Athenians to believe in Christ. Earlier, at a young age, he found himself in the Heliopolis of Egypt (near Cairo) just at the time of the Christ’s crucifixion in Jerusalem. On that Great Friday, at the time of the crucifixion of Christ, at noon, the sun was, according to ancient texts, “Destroyed by the glory of the darkness they were consumed by the glory of the Lord” (Matthew 27:45). The young boy, Dionysius was shocked by this paradoxical phenomenon and exclaimed: “God suffers or is always despondent” (“God suffers or is lost all”). He took care to note the day and hour of this supernatural event of the darkness of the Sun.

    When Dionysius returned to Athens, he heard the preaching of the Apostle Paul in the Areopagus Hill in Athens, talking about that supernatural darkness during the Crucifixion of the Lord, dissolving any doubt about the validity of his new faith. He was baptized, with his family in 52 AD. The acceptance of Dionysius of Christ refers to the Acts of the Apostles in chapter 17 and verse 34 “The men who have been sealed have believed in them, and Dionysius the Ereopagite, and the name of Damaris, and the others in it.” Thus when Dionysius heard Paul preach on Christ on the Aeropagus Hill in Athens, he would recall this experience which would reinforce his conviction that Paul was speaking the truth on Christ as the long-promised Messiah and Savior of the World. “

  61. foreverblessed says:

    Eye-witness of the darkness of that Good Friday when Jesus died, of somebody who was in Egypt at the time:

    “The young boy, Dionysius was shocked by this paradoxical phenomenon and exclaimed: “God suffers or is always despondent” (“God suffers or is lost all”). He took care to note the day and hour of this supernatural event of the darkness of the Sun.”

  62. poohpity says:

    I think it is fascinating after the resurrection Jesus took the time to go through all the scriptures from Genesis through Malachi that pointed to Him for 2 followers on the road to Emmaus. Luke 24 special attention to Luke 24:32 NLT. He will explain the scriptures through the Holy Spirit to all who really want to have a closer relationship with God.

  63. street says:

    2 Peter 3:7
    By the same word the present heavens and earth are reserved for fire, being kept for the day of judgment and destruction of the ungodly.

  64. Beloved says:

    God suffers, for us all. Even the ungodly! Oh to be like Him.

  65. street says:

    John 1:38 And Jesus turned and saw them following, and *said to them, “What do you seek?” They said to Him, “Rabbi, where are You staying?” 39 He *said to them, “Come, and you will see.”

  66. Beloved says:

    A Christian isn’t a man who never goes wrong, but a man who is enabled to repent. —C.S. Lewis

  67. Beloved says:

    Street that is such a different way of evangelizing than we are taught in the west. Thank you, I’ll be thinking about that.

  68. foreverblessed says:

    A Christian isn’t a man who never goes wrong, but a man who is enabled to repent. —C.S. Lewis

    That’s a good one Beloved!
    I was thinking, we do condemn ourselves so much! that thinking: Oh, it was not good enough what we did.

    You can go away from other people who condemn you, but from your own thinking, who frees you from these negative thoughts about yourself?

    1 John 3:19-20
    19 This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in His presence: 20 If our hearts condemn us, we know that God is greater than our hearts, and He knows everything.

  69. Beloved says:

    Forever thanks for that reminder! Thinking of Peter after the resurrection and his conversation with Jesus “Do you love me”, well, isn’t that the test?! We love Him only because He first loved us! I think Gods got us all covered no matter how stinking our thinking, but Truth-Jesus NEVER fails or disappoints! Blessings from Jesus to you my dear! And from me also.

  70. street says:

    how do you have a conversation with The One Who Knows everything? how would that change the why you think? the way you speak? the way you act?

    On the Other Side?

    by faith

  71. Beloved says:

    Yup

  72. street says:

    thinking of being responsible for every word we speak. let my words be few, unless they are are the Words of the Lord on my lips. we hear of hearts burning with fire, like on the road to emmaus. the same when the prophets tried not to speak. consuming fire. yoked comes to mind. thinking of a previous post UN-hitched. thinking of paul, a man, in labor. under the control of their loved One. to be Mastered. living by His Spirit, faith hope and love. hidden in Christ.

    brings me back to the question how to give this wealth to paupers? maybe love them?

  73. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, Love them.
    And maybe trying to listen better to what God is saying to me.
    Does He want me to open my mouth or not?
    Without getting too afraid of not hearing God though…..

    But the Word is NOT for everybody:

    Says God at eventide

    April 23 – Words Of Life

    Lord, Thy Word abideth and our footsteps guideth.

    Treasure My words in your heart. They will meet your need today as surely as they met the needs of those to whom I spoke them when I was on earth for they were not spoken in time but in Eternity.

    If My gift to man is Eternal Life, then the words inspired by that Life are eternal, appropriate to your needs today as they were then.

    But the words and the guidance are not for all. They are for those who ACCEPT MY great gift of Eternal Life.

    “And this is Life Eternal, that they might know Thee, the only true God, and Jesus Christ, Whom Thou hast sent.”

  74. street says:

    1 Peter 1:3-5

    3 Blessed be the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who according to His great mercy has caused us to be born again to a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead, 4 to obtain an inheritance which is imperishable and undefiled and will not fade away, reserved in heaven for you, 5 who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time.

  75. foreverblessed says:

    And above all:
    Pray for them:
    Father in heaven, bless Them!

    ( By the way, thank you very much for your blessing, Beloved! May God bless you too! Sevenfold!)

  76. foreverblessed says:

    What a beautiful bible verses Street,
    Ohhhh, that these Words may sink into my heart.

    And I pray, that God may open the hearts of all, that they may all accept Jesus as their Savior.

    Before they have accepted Jesus, they may “Read” our lives
    And see the love

  77. Beloved says:

    5 who are protected by the power of God through faith for a salvation ready to be revealed in the last time. Paupers.

  78. poohpity says:

    Our salvation is kept in heaven beyond the corruption of the flesh. (1 Peter 1:4 NLT) If human beings got their hands on that salvation imagine what they would do with it probably twist it, mutilate it and spin it to fit human reasoning for it to stay pure and undefiled it must remain with God in heaven.

  79. poohpity says:

    The same way they treat God’s word.

  80. foreverblessed says:

    How we treat God’s Word:

    “If we obey what God says according to our sincere belief, God will break us from those traditional beliefs that misrepresent Him. There are many such beliefs which must be removed– for example, that God removes a child because his mother loves him too much.”

    from todays My Utmost.
    Tough words these are.
    God had to free Abraham from wrong interpretation of what God’s Word was:

    “A person’s character determines how he interprets God’s will (see Psalm 18:25-26). Abraham interpreted God’s command to mean that he had to kill his son, and he could only leave this traditional belief behind through the pain of a tremendous ordeal. God could purify his faith in no other way.”

    Thankfully, Abraham was more devoted to God Himself than to his own beliefs:

    ” Abraham was not devoted to his own convictions or else he would have slain Isaac and said that the voice of the angel was actually the voice of the devil. That is the attitude of a fanatic.”

    “If you will remain true to God, God will lead you directly through every barrier and right into the inner chamber of the knowledge of Himself. But you must always be willing to come to the point of giving up your own convictions and traditional beliefs.”

    We are to be true to a Person, Jesus Christ,
    and not to a set of beliefs.

    Yes, that’s how it is!
    I had to be freed from a set of doctrines.
    And so I liked it, when Mart came up with:
    Unhitched….

    Unhitched from the Old Covenant

    We are no longer under the Mosaic Law,
    but not under no law,
    that is, if you see the guidfance of the Holy Spirit as a Law…
    Paul writes it as saying:
    I am under the Law of Jesus Christ,

    Whatever He said, is our New Covenant.

    what…ever,
    so it started with:
    Come to Me all who are heavy laden,
    and I will give you rest.

    The true Rest in Christ

    The effort is in coming to Jesus….
    again and again, and again

  81. foreverblessed says:

    Many interpretations of God’s Word are literal, too literal:
    I had to learn the meaning of the Sabbath…
    It was very painful, all those convictions that I had held so dear, they were destroyed, and I learned to look to a Person, a Living God
    And learned what the deeper meaning was of the Sabbath.
    I could take it literally, but not look down on others who did not.
    That was wrong, and God forgave me.

    Like the message that a woman has to be quiet,
    1 Timothy 2:11-14
    if that is meant literally, what are we doing here?
    I give here teaching of the meaning of the bleeding 7 timees of the Cross, me being a woman.
    According to a literal interpretation, it is impossible that Steve is being tought by women here.
    Then Steve had to leave, and we were all women together, and that would be ok.
    I am just rattling away now.

    There are so many bible verses that are taken in different ways;

    But What….

    if we would take the message of the Cross literally?

    That two sides:
    The black side:
    Give all your sin, all your cares to the Cross, all your shortcomings, all your self condemnation,

    the bright side:
    Jesus gives us His love, His peace, His patience, His self-control Gal 5:22-23

    For this very reason, make every effort to add to your faith:
    goodness
    knowledge
    self-control
    perseverance
    etc
    2 Peter 1:5-8

    James 1:5
    If anyone of you lacks wisdom (or love or peace, self-control, perseverance)
    he should ask God, who gives generously…

    But when he asks, he must believe and not doubt
    James 1:6

    Maybe we do not ask enough, or ask wrongly,
    James 4:2
    …You do not have because you do not ask God…

    like: Deliver me from this or from that, instead of just GIVING what hinders to Jesus, and asking for all the good gifts that come from above.

    But as long as we are devoted to a Person, and not to our belief system, then the Holy Spirit will guide us,
    and just like Abraham free us from wrong convictions, as He did to me too, and:

    …”God purified his faith”
    quotation from My Utmost today

  82. foreverblessed says:

    So, like Street said to Beloved:
    You are doing fine…

    You are doing fine, if you are devoted to a Person:
    Jesus Christ.

  83. jeff1 says:

    All-conquering Love

    Sovereign, all-transcending Lord,
    Holy mystery, feared, adored,
    In Your mighty Son we see
    All Your love’s humility.

    Christ the Lion, now the Lamb,
    Gives Himself, the great I AM.
    Christ, the Prince of Paradise,
    Dies a slaughtered sacrifice.

    Christ the Victor, in defeat,
    Makes Your victory all complete.
    As He prays His final breath,
    Sovereign life now swallows death.

    In His conquering strength we see
    Deep and glorious mystery
    Glowing from Your heart above:
    Holy, fierce, all-conquering love.

  84. poohpity says:

    I also agree with street that Joyce was doing fine in understanding and pushing back against false teaching. Then to top that off she saw inside herself that the reason she did not address other false teaching was because she wanted to be accepted so she said nothing, well until then. It takes courage sometimes to be the odd man out.

    Most of the bible is meant to be taken literally it is after all the testimony(old and new testament) of those who had a relationship with God so they shared their stories of experiencing God. Genesis for example was God giving Moses the story for him to write down to share since God was the only One there since the beginning of creation and His(God’s) testimony was true as to what happened literally.

    All of those testimonies were so that many would come to believe in God if someone could not hold them to be literally true what then could anyone hold on to as being real and true. If they were fugitive it would be like grasping for the wind which is what people do when they do not believe them to be literal anyone could make up anything to suit human logic and reasoning as many do but we are warned to have a discerning mind and heart so we are not lead by those who are blind and deaf to spiritual matters and who wish to deceive, control and doubt God. So the best and wisest path to take is compare anything we hear to what is written in scripture not just pieces of it but the whole thing. There is after all only One Good Teacher who is the source of all knowledge! Matt 11:29

    Jesus instructed John 15:27 then John testified (John 19:35, 21:24 and 3 John 1:12). If it was not literal what can we hold to as true, we will believe anything that is told to us as some do.

  85. Beloved says:

    In His conquering strength we see
    Deep and glorious mystery
    Glowing from Your heart above:
    Holy, fierce, all-conquering love.

    Viv I love this! Thinking about the days following the resurrection, disciples waiting, wondering if all they knew and were told by Jesus was true. No wonder they were surprised, beginning with Mary Magdeline who didn’t recognize Him until she heard His voice say her name! Oh to hear my name called by Jesus on the Day will be glorious indeed! My sheep hear my voice and they know Me! Baaaa

  86. poohpity says:

    So it is only “On The Other Side” of the resurrection does the story of what was written in the OT make sense.

    Joyce, God has already called you by name, “Come” and you did.

  87. Beloved says:

    Let me never forget…

    O sacred Head, now wounded, with grief and shame weighed down,
    Now scornfully surrounded with thorns, Thine only crown;
    O sacred Head, what glory, what bliss till now was Thine!
    Yet, though despised and gory, I joy to call Thee mine.
    What Thou, my Lord, hast suffered, was all for sinners’ gain;
    Mine, mine was the transgression, but Thine the deadly pain.
    Lo, here I fall, my Savior! ’Tis I deserve Thy place;
    Look on me with Thy favor, vouchsafe to me Thy grace.
    What language shall I borrow to thank Thee, dearest friend,
    For this Thy dying sorrow, Thy pity without end?
    O make me Thine forever, and should I fainting be,
    Lord, let me never, never outlive my love to Thee.
    Be Thou my consolation, my shield when I must die;
    Remind me of Thy passion when my last hour draws nigh.
    Mine eyes shall then behold Thee, upon Thy cross shall dwell,
    My heart by faith enfolds Thee. Who dieth thus dies well.

  88. Beloved says:

    Forever I too had to learn early on first that the Bible is relevant for today, then second not to take it literally without doing lots and lots of study! Seems like we all pick and choose sometimes to fit our fallen minds but to stay true to the gospel then apply the rest of scripture from there is what I was formally taught, and what Mart teaches faithfully. I think you are doing just fine also! Blessings to you and have a good evening!

  89. street says:

    thinking of literal interpretation. sometimes we forget the relationship between the tangible and the spiritual. Gods Words is Spirit not letters. nicodemus ran into this that night he spoke with Jesus. Jesus spoke of the fact some do not know what spirit they are of. yet later on paul speaks of being sanctified spirit soul and body. sure the body is changed from corruptible to incorruptible, including spirit and soul. sounds good from here, but paul spoke of knowing the power of His resurrection here and now. we are told we have eternal life when we trust in Jesus, we are also told we are made in His image among other things, like suffering testing and trials.

    thinking of john the baptist…..john performed no miracles yet every thing he said about Jesus was true.

    1 Thessalonians 5:23
    Now may the God of peace Himself sanctify you entirely; and may your spirit and soul and body be preserved complete, without blame at the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    1 Peter 1:13
    Therefore, prepare your minds for action, keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ.

    Colossians 2:9-11
    9 For in Him all the fullness of Deity dwells in bodily form, 10 and in Him you have been made complete, and He is the head over all rule and authority; 11 and in Him you were also circumcised with a circumcision made without hands, in the removal of the body of the flesh by the circumcision of Christ;

    Colossians 1:28
    We proclaim Him, admonishing every man and teaching every man with all wisdom, so that we may present every man complete in Christ.

    living by faith, hoping in our Redeemer, loving Him even though we have not seen Him.

  90. street says:

    i retract fine, Jesus payed the penalty on our behalf so that we could have life and have it to the full in Him.

  91. Beloved says:

    I’m crushed

  92. Beloved says:

    Thank you

  93. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, thanks Street and Beloved.
    This verse about women being silent in church if taken literally, what does that mean?
    I have problems with it.
    SO I think, it must meant something else, and if somebody says: you suit the bible to your own thinking….
    well, that hurts, but I must listen to what Jesus says.
    And lo and behold, I saw a video of a jewish arabic woman, who married an arabian, and was treated as a slave. The woman should listen to all the man tells her. If she doesn’t, he is allowed to hit her. And if she really disobeys him, he may kill her.
    It is making me sick.
    SO THAT it does not mean: the women should be silent.
    But, to me, we cannot take everything literally.
    Thanks Street, like the being born again, Nicodemus says; must I go back to my mothers womb?
    HA HA
    Very good,

    relax, forever, you are doing fine! Just follow your Savior, Jesus,
    I am just trying to encourage myself.
    But I really liked it, when Street said;
    You are doing fine

  94. poohpity says:

    The only way to understand what Paul was teaching about women in the church in places like Corinth was to understand what was happening in the churches at that time and the chaos that was going on that Paul was attempting to bring some balance and order into their worship. But one has to understand the culture of that area. Have you ever been in a room when a bunch of women start talking no one else can get a word in edge wise, no one listens they just all talk and often at the same time, lol.

  95. Beloved says:

    Forever you might want to look at what John Gill has to say about women keeping silent in the church.

  96. street says:

    27 God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.

    this verse speaks of man as male and female, something to grasp.

    as we all know, we can handle the true in ways it was never meant to be handled.

    thinking of powers and principalities

    12 For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the powers, against the world forces of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of wickedness in the heavenly places.

    Ephesians 3:9-11 King James Version (KJV)

    9 And to make all men see what is the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

    10 To the intent that now unto the principalities and powers in heavenly places might be known by the church the manifold wisdom of God,

    11 According to the eternal purpose which he purposed in Christ Jesus our Lord:

    Ephesians 1:20-22
    20 which He brought about in Christ, when He raised Him from the dead and seated Him at His right hand in the heavenly places, 21 far above all rule and authority and power and dominion, and every name that is named, not only in this age but also in the one to come. 22 And He put all things in subjection under His feet, and gave Him as head over all things to the church,

  97. Beloved says:

    There is a very good article on the web, Truth or Tradition, giving more background for the scripture about women keeping silent in the church. I was taught it was based on the then current tradition, because it seems to contradict Paul’s earlier discussion about women prophesying and the use of the gifts. That it may have been added by a scribe or professional copyist. Some literalists will have trouble with this explanation.

  98. Beloved says:

    Male and female He created them…the Church, all one with Christ as the groom and humankind as the bride. All equal, male and female in Christ.

  99. Beloved says:

    Buddy street you make my head hurt! Joy, sadness, anger then peace. :-) whew, got through another day!

  100. jeff1 says:

    The Father’s Gifts

    Father, Father, day by day
    You give me all I need:
    Blessings, burdens, work and rest,
    Disgrace and dignity,
    Quiet, peaceful streams
    And the mountains steep,
    Pastures broad and green
    And the shadows deep.

    Shepherd, Shepherd, I am weak,
    So gently lead Your lamb.
    Joy or sorrow, loss or gain,
    I kiss Your loving hand.
    Father, kind and wise,
    Good in all You do,
    Take away the light
    If You’ll walk me through.

    Father God, You only give
    What draws me close to You.

  101. street says:

    On the Other Side

    live by the compliment, die by the reproach.

    it’s better to live by the Spirit/Christ Eternal Word and Spirit of God. Their Trinity is confusing at best, but joy in the Trust. The Father delighted in the Son and Exalted Him to His Right Hand in Heaven. the privilege of being in Christ, God delighting in me too? i can see why the entanglements of the world could hinder the joy set before me. He did not leave us orphans, but gave us a Helper. following trusting waiting loving that which He loves and was sent for.

    we see many inventories of what we were like in the flesh. there are inventories of what is like in the Spirit. blessed are the poor in spirit for theirs is the Kingdom of Heaven. thinking of the 10 virgins and 10 lamps. i wonder if the lamps are filled at the press?

  102. poohpity says:

    Proverbs 27:6, 28:23; Psalm 141:5

  103. poohpity says:

    In the newly formed churches there arose many problems which we see in several of the letters of Paul to those churches. But it seems all the letters had a few things in common that was submission to Christ first and foremost then to each other, in other words humility rather than pride.

    There were people who had an immediate change and others that the change in them when they came to believe was at a slower pace. Thinking and behaviors they practiced before seemed to creep in to their new life in Christ and because of love Paul tried to correct those areas and old false teaching with reasoning guided by the Holy Spirit.

    In that culture which is still present today there were things like; polytheism, sexual promiscuity, wild and drunken parties, rage and malice, greed many things done to satisfy the flesh and Paul was directing them more to things that satisfied the Spirit and were signs that they in fact had been submissive to the leading of the Lord.

    In Paul’s letter to the Ephesians he wrote;

    Imitate God, therefore, in everything you do, because you are his dear children. 2 Live a life filled with love, following the example of Christ. He loved us and offered himself as a sacrifice for us, a pleasing aroma to God.

    3 Let there be no sexual immorality, impurity, or greed among you. Such sins have no place among God’s people. 4 Obscene stories, foolish talk, and coarse jokes—these are not for you. Instead, let there be thankfulness to God. 5 You can be sure that no immoral, impure, or greedy person will inherit the Kingdom of Christ and of God. For a greedy person is an idolater, worshiping the things of this world.

    6 Don’t be fooled by those who try to excuse these sins, for the anger of God will fall on all who disobey him. 7 Don’t participate in the things these people do. 8 For once you were full of darkness, but now you have light from the Lord. So live as people of light! 9 For this light within you produces only what is good and right and true.

    10 Carefully determine what pleases the Lord. 11 Take no part in the worthless deeds of evil and darkness; instead, expose them. 12 It is shameful even to talk about the things that ungodly people do in secret. 13 But their evil intentions will be exposed when the light shines on them, 14 for the light makes everything visible. This is why it is said,

    “Awake, O sleeper,
    rise up from the dead,
    and Christ will give you light.”

    15 So be careful how you live. Don’t live like fools, but like those who are wise. 16 Make the most of every opportunity in these evil days. 17 Don’t act thoughtlessly, but understand what the Lord wants you to do. 18 Don’t be drunk with wine, because that will ruin your life. Instead, be filled with the Holy Spirit, 19 singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs among yourselves, and making music to the Lord in your hearts. 20 And give thanks for everything to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  104. Beloved says:

    following trusting waiting loving that which He loves and was sent for. Street.

    I’m so impatient! Thinking that loving what He loves, and was sent for are powerful things to ponder. None of us do this walk with God perfectly. Patience thankfully is one of God’s many virtues. Follow trust wait, yes. Thanks again, street.

  105. Beloved says:

    I’ve been thinking about the pic of the moth (yes I looked it up before, it’s a moth). A moth is attracted to light as we all know. On NPR I found a discussion about them I copied this :

    Dr. BERENBAUM: Yeah. It’s, I think, another manifestation of more or less the same phenomenon. (He’s referencing turtles following the moon) The reason that moths end up at porch lights so often, along with other nocturnal flying insects, is to maintain a constant angle relative to a nearby point source of light. They had to keep kind of moving closer and closer and adjusting their relative position. And ultimately they end up kind of at the light itself.

    I find this so interesting! Our God is a consuming fire, the closer we get to Him the more dross is burned off. Just my simple thoughts today.

  106. poohpity says:

    Just a thought that butterflies when not flying hold their wings up and a moth lays their wings down looking similar to a jet plane. I think the purpose of the butterfly is what it became “on the other side”.

  107. cbrown says:

    So, maybe the moth is looking for light and the monarch butterfly is looking for life.

  108. jeff1 says:

    Let the Flame Burn Brighter

    We’ll walk the land
    With hearts on fire
    And every step will be a prayer
    Hope is rising
    New day dawning
    Sound of singing
    Fills the air

    Two thousand years
    And still the flame
    Is burning bright
    Across the land
    Hearts are waiting
    Longing, aching
    For awakening
    Once again

    Let the flame burn brighter
    In the heart of the darkness
    Turning night to glorious day
    Let the song grow louder
    As our love grows stronger
    Let it shine, let it shine

    We’ll walk for truth
    Speak out for love
    In Jesus’ name
    We shall be strong
    To lift the fallen
    To save the children
    To fill the nation
    With your song

    Let the flame burn brighter
    In the heart of the darkness
    Turning night to glorious day
    Let the song grow louder
    As our love grows stronger
    Let it shine, let it shine

    Let the flame burn brighter
    In the heart of the darkness
    Turning night to glorious day
    Let the song grow louder
    As our love grows stronger
    Let it shine

    Let the flame burn brighter
    In the heart of the darkness
    Turning night to glorious day
    Let the song grow louder
    As our love grows stronger
    Let it shine, let it shine
    Let it shine, let is shine

  109. SFDBWV says:

    Mart asks two questions that attract a reply from me. The first being, who can imagine what the rest of Peter’s life or ours would have looked like without Jesus’ accomplished purpose? The second being, could Peter or anyone else have ever known why it is better to have lived than to have never lived at all?

    It only takes a little effort to see what “religion” connected to the misguided worship of the God of Abraham looks like without the birth, life, death, and resurrection of Jesus. It is the Islamic faith.

    A faith of harsh merciless control. Where women are treated horribly and the murder of them acceptable under their harsh “law”.

    In fact the murder of any unbeliever encouraged and rewarded.

    No, religion nor life without Jesus’ accomplishment would be a cold and hopeless existence.

    This second thought of Mart’s is intriguing. To know why it is better to have lived than to never have lived at all.

    Matt asks for death a hundred times a day and is angry for ever have been born. I know that Matt isn’t alone in his pain.

    Job mulled over this concept, to never have been born is to have never known the heartache, and pain of life.

    The resurrection of Jesus offers hope to all, but to people like Matt and many others, living hell on earth at that moment it doesn’t remove the pain of that moment.

    It is ask “Death where is thy victory?”, yet for every believer from that morning on death has been the doorway of release from this world into the next. The promise of a shared resurrection in a time to come.

    To share in an eternal blissful existence with God is indeed a wonderful thought, but the idea of never living and never knowing unhappiness as well as happiness seems mute.

    As if to say all of life’s pain is incomparable to an eternal life of joy with God. To have not known such pain is not to appreciate the joy to come.

    Yet to never have existed we never experience either of them and know nothing as we would be nothing.

    Life comes with a price.

    Steve

  110. poohpity says:

    Just to know God the song writer says;

    It is good to give thanks to the Lord,
    to sing praises to the Most High.
    2
    It is good to proclaim your unfailing love in the morning,
    your faithfulness in the evening,
    3
    accompanied by a ten-stringed instrument, a harp,
    and the melody of a lyre.

    4
    You thrill me, Lord, with all you have done for me!
    I sing for joy because of what you have done.
    5
    O Lord, what great works you do!
    And how deep are your thoughts.
    6
    Only a simpleton would not know,
    and only a fool would not understand this:
    7
    Though the wicked sprout like weeds
    and evildoers flourish,
    they will be destroyed forever.

    8
    But you, O Lord, will be exalted forever.
    9
    Your enemies, Lord, will surely perish;
    all evildoers will be scattered.
    10
    But you have made me as strong as a wild ox.
    You have anointed me with the finest oil.
    11
    My eyes have seen the downfall of my enemies;
    my ears have heard the defeat of my wicked opponents.
    12
    But the godly will flourish like palm trees
    and grow strong like the cedars of Lebanon.
    13
    For they are transplanted to the Lord’s own house.
    They flourish in the courts of our God.
    14
    Even in old age they will still produce fruit;
    they will remain vital and green.
    15
    They will declare, “The Lord is just!
    He is my rock!
    There is no evil in him!”

  111. poohpity says:

    God created in all people this place that can only be filled with Him. Yes people try to fill it with many things only to come away empty, hopeless and filled with despair. There is new life, new hope and change when the Lord fills that hole. He turns our sorrow into joy. It is a decision when we ask Jesus into our lives that changes how we look at everything. It is a decision that will change a life.

    Lifting Matt up to the Lord to experience His presence.

  112. Beloved says:

    Today is my 69th birthday. I am so grateful I was born to know my creator, He is truly Wonderful and makes my life valuable beyond description even through all the pain and sorrows.
    Knowing You, Jesus, knowing You! There is no greater love. You’re my all You’re the best You’re my Joy my righteousness- and I love You LORD, yes I love you LORD.

    Knowing God makes all the difference in the world.

  113. Beloved says:

    Revelation 3:20 ►

    New Living Translation
    “Look! I stand at the door and knock. If you hear my voice and open the door, I will come in, and we will share a meal together as friends

  114. Beloved says:

    Look!

  115. Beloved says:

    I mentioned wanting to learn more about apologetics the other day. God always tells me what I need to know… Piper I think said that as Christ followers we ARE a living walking apologetic. Just living our life makes us stand out and curious to the world, that being in Christ always we will have a word ready to share if asked. Living life as a Christian… just living and breathing as Christ did. Simple yet profound. If we have Christ we have everything we need. Always.

  116. SFDBWV says:

    One of those marvelous mysteries ask in poetry, music and even in scientific circles is why the moth is attracted to the light.

    One of my crafts was being a welder. I can’t tell you how many times when welding at night outside of the shop, a moth would fly right into a fiery death in the arc of electricity that produced the weld.

    Whatever it is that attracts the moth to the flame is over and above its own instinct to avoid danger. That is if in fact a moth has such an instinct.

    If you believe in evolution you would think that evolution would have fixed that mystery by now.

    Butterflies and moths both are quite an interesting life form and both can teach us something about life if we take the time to actually study their little lives.

    Equally interesting is that God used the locust as a plague against Pharaoh. As well as lice and flies and frogs.

    Lice, a parasite with no known value, flies who have purpose, but carry disease and frogs that eat both fly and locust alike, as well as butterfly and moth.

    Along my experience of life there is a particular small orange butterfly that made themselves known to me many years ago. As they gather over the surface area where a sewer leak exists a few feet beneath the surface.

    The Monarch butterfly while having a fascinating generational life cycle feeds almost solely on milkweed.

    In the beginning man was relegated to being a vegetarian, but what about the other critters. Were they created to feed as they do now on other life forms?

    In fact all of nature relies on the sacrifice of another life for their existence, including mankind.

    It seems life on earth is all about sacrifice and the sin against it is being self-absorbed.

    52 degrees damp and wet.

    Steve

  117. street says:

    was at a different church service today. not the regular congregation i go to. the sermon was about islamic faith. matthew was sitting at his tax both. rejected by romans and jews alike. a special case of sinners so detestable they had their own category separate even from common sinners. Jesus called him to follow Him. matthew received the invite because it was his only hope. passed over and rejected many times, it got old real fast for him. new life in Christ. the people of islamic faith asked why Jesus would eat with such a one? after the reply of the sick needing a physician, Jesus commanded the questioners to look into mercy vs sacrifice. 6 I tell you that something greater than the temple is here. 7 If you had known what these words mean, ‘I desire mercy, not sacrifice,’ you would not have condemned the innocent. 8 For the Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.”

    6 I tell you that something greater than the temple is here.

    you would not have condemned the innocent.

    Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath.

    mercy requires that you care or love.

    what does the Lord require of you?

    seeking justice, taking up your cross, love mercy, having compassion in Spirit and Truth, walking humbly with Christ.

    one who is forgiven much loves much.

  118. poohpity says:

    street, Where is it said that anyone from the Islamic faith asked Jesus anything? Weren’t those who questioned Jesus from the Jewish faith(Judaism) or no particular faith at all? Matthew collected taxes for the Romans so where does it say they rejected him?

  119. cbrown says:

    Happy Birthday Beloved!

  120. street says:

    islamic faith is a euphemism for the religion of man earning or working his way to God’s favor. the school of the pharisees was along theses lines in that they substituted mans rules for the law of God. they deceived themselves into believing they were righteous.

    it is interesting that even the roman’s were pharisees in their strongly held beliefs. there was no love lose between the roman’s and the jews in 70 ad. you could say they hated them with a vengeance. i will have to say that august would not accept the victors crown in the destruction of Jerusalem. he understood that he had absolutely no control over his men in the destruction. he wanted to save the temple, but God had none of that. from what i read the events even made him pause, i think he understood what was happening was bigger than most understood. he recognized he was a pawn. i think he was wise beyond his years. God raised him up to rule the gentile world. thinking it would be better to let God rule our world in Christ Jesus.

    people of islamic faith, man made religion, do not need Jesus and would not even look for Him. For the word of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.

    thinking of the Lord of the Sabbath that forever speaks of. rest is more important than knowledge. knowledge will be done away with, rest in Christ, is forever. seek and you will find. thinking of two masters and Matthew 5.

  121. Beloved says:

    Chris that is so kind of you, thank you.

  122. street says:

    Only on the other side of the best morning the world has ever known, could Peter or anyone else have ever known why it is better to have lived than to have never lived at all.

    18 For I consider that the sufferings, “living,” of this present time are not worth comparing with the glory that is to be revealed to us. 19 For the creation waits with eager longing for the revealing of the sons of God. 20 For the creation was subjected to futility, not willingly, but because of him who subjected it, in hope 21 that the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to corruption and obtain the freedom of the glory of the children of God.

    this verse reminded me of the post.

    we can’t go back or undo, the only way is forward in Christ.

  123. jeff1 says:

    I’ll Worship Only At The Feet Of Jesus

    I went to visit the shrine of plenty,
    But found it stores all filled with dust,
    I bowed at alters of gold and silver,
    But as I knelt there they turned to rust.

    So I’ll worship only at the feet of Jesus,
    His cup alone, my holy grail,
    There’ll be no other gods before Him,
    Just Jesus only will never fail.

    The call of fortune made me a pilgrim,
    To journey to things promised us,
    But as I climbed the promise faded,
    And wind blew lonely all through the night.

    So I’ll worship only at the feet of Jesus,
    His cup alone, my holy grail,
    There’ll be no other gods before Him,
    Just Jesus only will never fail.

    Just desert dust and empty shadows,
    All promises that turned to lies,
    The gods of earth failed and betrayed me,
    You alone are truth and life.

    So I’ll worship only at the feet of Jesus,
    His cup alone, my holy grail,
    There’ll be no other gods before Him,
    Just Jesus only will never fail.
    Just Jesus only will never fail…

  124. street says:

    been thinking about….

    the connection of Faith and the Spirit of God…

    both gifts from God, the gift of God.

    thinking of pauls struggle in a world of great difficulty… more than conquers.

    still bearing fruit 2000 years later……i guess the fruit really does last!

  125. poohpity says:

    street do you even know what the definition of euphemism is?

  126. street says:

    noun
    the substitution of a mild, indirect, or vague expression for one thought to be offensive, harsh, or blunt.
    the expression so substituted: “To pass away” is a euphemism for “to die.”

    ok, it was the opposite of euphemism. i guess it depends on which side you are on. hehe un-hitched.

  127. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Beloved,
    Happy New year!
    May you have a blessed 70th year.
    May you be conscious of Jesus being with you more and more.
    I pray that for all of us here.

  128. foreverblessed says:

    Here are some quotations of brother Lawrence, that you adviced me to look at:

    I have… resolved to make the love of God the end of all my actions. I have been well satisfied with this single motive…

    [However,] I was long troubled by the belief that perhaps I would be damned. All [people] in the world could not have persuaded me to the contrary…

    But since the time I saw this trouble arose from lack of faith, I have passed my life in perfect liberty and continual joy. I even placed my sins between myself and the Lord to tell Him that I did not deserve His favors, but He continued to bestow His favors upon me, in abundance anyway!…

  129. foreverblessed says:

    Lately when I did a search on him I found a prayer that goes something like this:

    “Oh God of pots and pans….”

    He was working in the kitchen, which he disliked greatly:

    “And so it is the same in the kitchen (a place to which I have a great natural aversion). I have accustomed myself to doing everything there for the love of God. On all occasions, with prayer, I have found [my work] easy during the fifteen years in which I have been employed here…”

    I found that so humorous: God of pots and pans!
    BUt I can’t find that prayer anymore…

    Even the simplest of thing is great in the sight of God if it is done in love,
    the love that we first received from Him.

    I myself have found me to be working in the house, household duties, the ever returning of the dirt, everything gets dirty again, and you have to clean it.
    I, how much I disliked it.

    Till it dawned on me that the work Jesus is doing, is ever cleaning up our sins, our misgivings, our lack of harmony, He is ever taking up all our infirmities, and making us clean.

    cleaning the dirt is what Jesus is doing, making us clean, each day, each moment.
    And He does it out of love for us.

  130. foreverblessed says:

    Steve, when I read what Mart wrote:
    It is better to have lived than not to have lived at all….

    I immediately had to think about Matt,
    And Job,
    Job 3:3-4
    “May the day of my birth perish,
    and the night it was said: A boy is born
    That day- may it turn into darkness;
    May God above not care about it;
    May no light shine upon it.

    v11 Why did I not perish at birth, and die as I came out of the womb?

    v23-26
    Why is life given to a man whose way is hidden,
    whom God has hedged in?
    For sighing comes to me instead of food;
    my groans pour out like water.

    What I feared has come upon me;
    what I dreaded has happened to me.
    I have no peace, noquietness;
    I have no rest, but only turmoil.”

  131. foreverblessed says:

    In my bible I have written besides Job 3:26:

    Psalm 62:5-6

    Find rest, O my soul, in God alone;
    My hope comes from Him
    He alone is my rock and my salvation;
    He is my fortress, I shall not be shaken

    Psalm 62:8
    trust in Him at all times, O people;
    Pout out your hearts to Him,
    for God is our refuge
    Selah

  132. foreverblessed says:

    O, that the God of the anguished, and despairing men, may give us insight what to say to them:

    Job 6:26
    Do you mean to correct what I say,
    and treat the words of a despairing man as wind?

    Or give us insight in what to pray for them, what to pray for Matt.

  133. jeff1 says:

    I find prayer difficult as I am much better at being silent before God while I prefer to pray in a community of believers.

    When going through difficult times I have relied on others prayers as doubt got in the way of a heart to heart with God.

    I fretted that I felt so distant from God and unable to pray but I need not have worried because God spoke to me in the silences and give me strength beyond my understanding.

    I have learned that Jesus is with me in my distress while others leave me or condemn me He remains my constant friend.

    So I’ll worship only at the feet of Jesus,
    His cup alone, my holy grail,
    There’ll be no other gods before Him,
    Just Jesus only will never fail.
    Just Jesus only will never fail…

  134. Beloved says:

    Thank you Forever, you bless me always! In my cold world you are a bright warm light as you shine Gods love on this blog. God is teaching me to love Him only as He quietly removes people from my life. It was a very quiet day yesterday but God prepared me for it. And like Br Lawrence am learning to enjoy simply being alone in His presence with only the most mundane things to do. I never believed I could live this long until Christ got hold of me and convinced me He was in control of me and not myself or any human authority figures. So now in my latter years I don’t have work to rush off to or agendas to serve. Only God. I’m so blessed to experience this time of my life.

  135. Beloved says:

    The wine press, Gethsemane.

    I had just learned what Gethsemane meant days before mart posted. Gives a whole new meaning to Jesus anguish before the physical assaults started even. Yet even in His anguish there He reached out to heal and restore the ear of the soldier Peter had assaulted. Oh my what a God we serve. Street brought up that the agenda of Islam is similar to that of the Pharisees, which made me think of Mormons, and other groups who are all about law— even some conservative Christians! The law doesn’t submit to the wine press, I hate being pressed myself, but to find love at the other side is amazing, peaceful and healing. Oh what a Savior, Jesus Christ Messiah!

  136. poohpity says:

    teeheehee street. I had to look it up too but I understood what you meant in the meaning of people having to earn the love of God, that is still present even in the hearts of believers. When a person comes to the point of accepting their own self just like they are often is when they start accepting others for themselves as well. Until then many want others to change to be like they think they should be rather than allowing God to work in a life not to change the person but how they think which effects how they act.

    God seems to want us to be who we were born to be before the grime of this world changes our personalities but “On The Other Side” of the resurrection with the help of the Holy Spirit He can heal those scars to bring the real person back out again. He loves us as we are but helps us to look at life through a different lens so as long as it took to get this way His work has to get rid a lot of crap that hold us down from being truly ourselves.

    People tell us if you will be what I think you should be then I will accept you and love you but that is only from those who are unable to do that in their own life for themselves. In a world where people’s acceptance is based on us earning their love that may be why we think we have to do that with God. It is unimaginable to think a God who knows every little detail about us could give us such a pure unconditional love but that is because of who He is and not because of us.

  137. poohpity says:

    The command Jesus gave us John 13:34 is only possible “On The Other Side”!

  138. poohpity says:

    To think Jesus gave that command on the night before the horrors He went through for and because of us at the last supper with His disciples knowing that those very disciples would scatter, deny and leave Him all alone. He loved them any way.

    The question was raised
    As my conscience fell
    A silly little lie

    It didn’t mean much
    But it lingers still
    In the corners of my mind

    Still you call me to walk
    On the edge of this world
    To spread my dreams and fly

    But the future’s so far
    My heart is so frail
    I think I’d rather stay inside

    But You love me anyway
    It’s like nothing in life
    That I’ve ever known
    Yes You love me anyway
    Oh Lord, how You love me
    How you love me

    It took more than my strength
    To simply be still
    To seek but never find

    The reasons we change
    The reasons I doubt
    And Why do loved ones have to die?

    But You love me anyway
    It’s like nothing in life
    That I’ve ever known
    Yes You love me anyway
    Oh Lord, how You love me

    I am the thorn in your crown
    But You love me anyway
    I am the sweat from Your brow
    But You love me anyway
    I am the nail in Your wrist
    But You love me anyway
    I am Judas’ kiss
    But You love me anyway
    See now I am the man who yelled out from the crowd
    For Your blood to be spilled on this earth shaking ground
    Yes then I turned away with a smile on my face
    With this sin in my heart, tried to bury Your grace
    And then alone in the night I still call out for You
    So ashamed of my life, my life, my life

    But You love me anyway
    Oh God, how You love me
    Yes You love me anyway
    It’s like nothing in life
    That I’ve ever known
    Yes You love me anyway
    Oh Lord, how You love me

    You love me
    You love me
    You love me
    You love me

    How You love me
    How You love me
    How You love me

  139. poohpity says:

    Forever, I thought you may enjoy the teaching this week on “Discover The Word” about “How to Read the Bible”. Join Mart, Alice, Bill and Elisa on the journey.

  140. street says:

    To think Jesus gave that command on the night before the horrors He went through for and because of us at the last supper with His disciples knowing that those very disciples would scatter, deny and leave Him all alone. He loved them any way.

    this struck a cord in me in that it was impossible to love the way God wanted us to love prior to the cross. the way people love is if you love me first. Jesus said even gentiles love hose who love them. i really found that difficult to understand that sinners could love? the verse about parents and children helps when it came to giving good gifts. even then we still get soiled in the world, even our parents. the cross changed that forever! we now can come into the presents of God in His likeness in Christ Jesus. we could not do that before the cross. thinking of the cross as the way of the press. it has a way of removing every thing that separates us from God.

    thinking of Jesus saying if you love me you would keep my commands. adam’s sin was not loving God, “innocent”. adam would have been alone forever had there not been a Savior. God said it was not good for man to be alone. it is not good for man not to love like God loves. we love because God first loved us and sent His Son to save us from ourselves.

    the whole law is kept by love. God is love. God is Spirit and Truth. Jesus is building a home for God, that the builders rejected. stones carefully joined together.

    innocent….so that God can have mercy on them all.

  141. street says:

    ‘Cursed is the one who does not obey the terms of this covenant— 4 the terms I commanded your ancestors when I brought them out of Egypt, out of the iron-smelting furnace.’ I said, ‘Obey me and do everything I command you, and you will be my people, and I will be your God. 5 Then I will fulfill the oath I swore to your ancestors, to give them a land flowing with milk and honey’—the land you possess today.”

  142. Beloved says:

    Oops that’s olive press, Gethsemane

  143. poohpity says:

    street you said, “Jesus is building a home for God, that the builders rejected. stones carefully joined together.” I have no idea where that came from or what you meant by it. Jesus is the cornerstone the builders rejected but as far as Jesus building a home for God that is to far out there for me to understand.

  144. street says:

    it comes from david wishing to build a house for God. God responded through the prophet nathan. that He is not the One to build a House for God. God said He would establish His Thrown forever and One of davids descendants would sit on that Thrown Forever. Jesus is the One the builders rejected……..He is the One Who’s Kingdom will never end, eternal. God told david, “I will build you a house.” Jesus is God and the Promised One. the One abraham trusted in. Jesus spoke to the pharasies about the patriarchs seeing Jesus before He was 50 years old.

  145. poohpity says:

    Oooh!

  146. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Foreverblessed for you love and compassion for Matthew, it is what defines your character, your love and compassion.

    Life isn’t easy for any of us. For many much worse than others.

    There is a “Thing” in some of us that yearns for everyone to be happy, blessed and enjoy the life given. That hurts for those who suffer.

    It is impossible for any of us to impart to another what we experience when our emotions are heightened and come alive.

    As Viv so excellently expresses, she finds this birthed in music, so do I and am sure many others as well.

    It is that passion that arises in us that many times brings us to tears, both of sorrow as well as joy.

    We read that Jesus wept both for Jerusalem and at the grave of Lazarus “Jesus wept”.

    Our God, our Lord, the Holy Spirit is an emotional Being and we are created in His likeness and so are emotional beings as well.

    Without emotion you can’t feel anger, heartache, or love and that “Thing” in us is our God that weeps at the pain life can bring as well as leaps for joy as the blessings life can also provide.

    Thank you for your love and compassion for Matthew, I also thank others who are moved to pray for Matt and sympathize for his pain. Real love, real compassion comes from God and His character is shown through ours when we express love for others.

    Steve

  147. jeff1 says:

    So very true, Steve, and you are so very good with words, and why the first two commandments are the greatest.

    I cannot claim to know God without loving my neighbour and my neighbour is more than the person next door to me or that is what I believe.

    I have come to realise that to love my neighbour as myself then I must first love myself and that has been a struggle considering the love/hate relationship I have has been with myself.

    God knows each of us much better than we can ever understand because we are His creation and its when we reverse that the difficulties arise.

    My dad taught me a great lesson in life and that is he knew his place was at the foot of Jesus and no one has shown me that he was wrong because he wasn’t.

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