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The Humility of God

Humility without a trace of hypocrisy.

That’s what set him apart in the moment of his execution.

Instead of offering a blistering, blustering attack on his accusers, he gave fulness of meaning to a song sung by a lesser king.

O Lord, my heart is not lifted up,

my eyes are not raised too high;

I do not occupy myself with things

too great and too marvelous for me.

But I have calmed and quieted my soul,

like a weaned child with its mother;

my soul is like the weaned child that is with me.

O Israel, hope in the Lord

from this time on and forevermore. Psalm 131

What David never could have anticipated is that the God he was learning to trust is the source of the humility he was learning to express.

Who could have imagined a God who would have considered it his honor— to humble himself to the pain, nakedness, and public scorn it took— to show how far he would go to put our interests ahead of his own.


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  1. jeff1 says:

    In stark difference to the world’s expectations and perhaps why God is so misunderstood.

    All-conquering Love

    Sovereign, all-transcending Lord,
    Holy mystery, feared, adored,
    In Your mighty Son we see
    All Your love’s humility.

    Christ the Lion, now the Lamb,
    Gives Himself, the great I AM.
    Christ, the Prince of Paradise,
    Dies a slaughtered sacrifice.

    Christ the Victor, in defeat,
    Makes Your victory all complete.
    As He prays His final breath,
    Sovereign life now swallows death.

    In His conquering strength we see
    Deep and glorious mystery
    Glowing from Your heart above:
    Holy, fierce, all-conquering love.

  2. poohpity says:

    Humility a great trait of a true follower of Jesus but not found in to many. Pride is the very trait that the enemy seems to feed those who take the bait when every Spiritual blessing that we have comes from our source, God. Sadly many seem to boast in how spirit filled or godly they are when that in fact shows the very opposite.

    When one looks down on any other human being as being less than they are, that is pride at it’s finest but it is also pride to be self debasing.(Romans 12:3) If we have the faith that God has given us we know our value and worth to God which would cause any head to be held high and every heart to be filled with gratitude for the grace and the immeasurable and unfathomable love we have been shown. Then we could understand a glimpse, without a doubt God is good and loving.

  3. SFDBWV says:

    Finding contentment in life is perhaps the most elusive of all things.

    Hoping for contentment from God a daily prayer.

    Steve

  4. poohpity says:

    Steve is contentment really elusive if one really trusts in God? Or is it elusive when one does not trust God? Phil 4:11 NIV Learned is the focused word in that scripture. As we learn to trust God contentment grows and matures.

  5. jeff1 says:

    My contentment comes from knowing that Jesus has overcome and so my enemies have no domain over me but it doesn’t stop my enemies from hating me or wishing me harm.

    This is why I would agree with Steve that contentment in this world can be elusive.

    I long to be in His presence and free from the tyranny of evil.

  6. poohpity says:

    Boy that would be confusing for me. Either you have contentment that Jesus has overcome and your enemies have no power over you or you believe they do have power over you because they hate you and wish you harm. So doesn’t that come down to trusting or not trusting God? Can one do both??? If we live in the power of our enemies or our circumstances it is the world we are actually trusting in not humbly trusting God or who He says what we are to Him and what He has done for us. Anything can be elusive when faith does not come into the picture! The more one trusts the more contentment will follow. Will we be content always, I think that depends on our thoughts and belief in God. If one does not believe He is good and loving then how can anyone trust or depend on Him from the heart?

  7. poohpity says:

    For me I know I am in His presence every hour of everyday if I am not then it is me who has walked away but even then He is faithful to never let me go or never leave my side.

  8. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, I don’t understand why it is confusing for you because I thought you believed that Jesus had overcome the world and the evil in it or do you not believe that?

  9. SFDBWV says:

    I find it oddly interesting that this web site and I seem to have a bug that neither one of us can shake.

    The psalms are a balm to my soul as when I need encouraged or lifted up it is always in the Psalms that I can find peace.

    Of course if you just read the Psalms for study you find a mixture of many purposes for what is written, and as Mart would say even tensions that seem to oppose one another.

    Personally I would have to say that King David comes across as not being humble except in humbling himself before the Lord.

    Jesus, unique among all human beings, while being humble in the respect that He is God the Creator, Judge of all matters and Executioner of His will while walking upon the earth showed no humility when dealing with the money changers nor the “experts” of the Law.

    What He showed then was authority. Authority over all matters especially over sin.

    Having authority and showing humbleness even meekness at the same time is indeed a divine ability.

    Which just may be why when we see the best of human kindness directed without any thought of reward or return of thanksgiving, what we see is a reflection of the God who created us.

    Steve

  10. jeff1 says:

    Belonging to God means you exist by His decree and so it is impossible to be under the power of my enemies though they may believe otherwise.

    It is simple for me whatever my circumstances Jesus is greater than them but I do no delude myself that I do not have enemies because they are very focal about their hatred and using violence to achieve their ends.

    You do not live in a war torn country so I see why that might be confusing for you.

  11. jeff1 says:

    I have not read truer words, Steve, such insight, and the truth that actions often speak louder than words.

    Which just may be why when we see the best of human kindness directed without any thought of reward or return of thanksgiving, what we see is a reflection of the God who created us.

  12. street says:

    O Lord, my heart is not lifted up,

    my eyes are not raised too high;

    I do not occupy myself with things

    too great and too marvelous for me.

    was thinking moses and david did not find themselves in the seat of moses, something to be grasped. they found themselves in the presents of God.

  13. street says:

    But I have calmed and quieted my soul,

    like a weaned child with its mother;

    my soul is like the weaned child that is with me.

    O Israel, hope in the Lord

    the presents of God is peace. thinking about elisha and his bucket list.

  14. Beloved says:

    Yesterday I was worried about something and took it straight to the LORD. He answered quickly, “do not worry about today.” Such peace came over me and today the “worry” was answered. Like a weaned child with its mother- not sure i am weaned yet, not sure I want to be. Rest comes daily for me. :-)

  15. Beloved says:

    I’m still quite immature. By Gods grace I’ll be fully weaned.

  16. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    August 28, 2019 at 10:50 am

    The more one trusts the more contentment will follow.

    I believe that the more one knows God the more contentment will follow as we know in this world we will have tribulation which means we win some battles and we loose others but when trusting in God the victory is already ours.

    Its about standing on the promises of God and trusting in His character so that in my failings I am reassured of His continued faithfulness.

    My difficulty is in thinking I must not fail God and that is the enemies greatest weapon and yet God knows that in my humanness I will fail Him.

    The greatest playground for Satan is the mind and being a manic depressive I know its struggles all too well.

    My earthly dad’s greatest strength was stability of mind but it happens to be my greatest weakness.

    God will use me as He sees fit as in God’s economy I have a purpose.

    I am thinking of the different weaknesses of the biblical characters and how God used them to do His will.

    It reminds me of His omniscience and nothing can give me more contentment than knowing that God is all powerful especially since Satan continues to mess with my head in claiming He is not.

    I know who I believe.

    Pass Me Not O Gentle Savior

    1. Pass me not, O gentle Savior,
    hear my humble cry;
    while on others thou art calling,
    do not pass me by.

    Refrain:
    Savior, Savior, hear my humble cry;
    while on others thou art calling,
    do not pass me by.

    2. Let me at thy throne of mercy
    find a sweet relief,
    kneeling there in deep contrition;
    help my unbelief.

    (Refrain)
    3. Trusting only in thy merit,
    would I seek thy face;
    heal my wounded, broken spirit,
    save me by thy grace.

    (Refrain)
    4. Thou the spring of all my comfort,
    more than life to me,
    whom have I on earth beside thee?
    Whom in heaven but thee?

  17. poohpity says:

    From what you just said Viv then contentment is NOT elusive but found in trusting God. Is trusting God hard? Yes especially if someone thinks they are in control all the time and it is so very hard to turn things over to God because that takes faith to do so. To trust that God’s ways are far better for us than anything we could ever imagine for ourselves or for those around us. But sadly people believe they know better than God and that is where “The Humility of God” comes in because He will let them think they know better than He does.

    God never forces anything on us or He would have never given us FREE WILL. God wants it to be our choice to love, trust and depend on Him not because we are forced to do so. The difference with people is they often force their own will, thinking and beliefs on others with the consequences of rejection, ridicule, anger, fits of rage and hatred.

    When Jesus turned the tables over of the money changers it was because they were mocking what God has intended for His house to be a place of prayer, learning and worship. A place of refreshment and reconciliation not to cheat people. So it was in humility and love to think of God first and what is in the best interest of others before your self.

    Humility puts the good of others first and foremost. Not what one thinks is good for them by pushing personal agenda but what is actually in their best interest, that is called real love and that is what Jesus showed us about God as He revealed Him to us.

  18. Beloved says:

    What David never could have anticipated is that the God he was learning to trust is the source of the humility he was learning to express.

    I think we are all just as surprised when we figure this out. It goes against the way fallen mankind operates, or tries to, anyway. Jesus humbled his followers when He went to the cross, saying it was his Fathers will and not man’s will that put him there.

  19. poohpity says:

    Yes Beloved Jesus humbled Himself by being lead like a sheep to slaughter when it was within His power to stop it.

    Matt 26: 53Are you not aware that I can call on My Father, and He will at once put at My disposal more than twelve legions of angels? 54But how then would the Scriptures be fulfilled that say it must happen this way?”

  20. poohpity says:

    There are between 4,000 and 6,000 in one legion, so 12 legions would be between 48,000 and 72,000 angels. Wow

  21. street says:

    faith and life
    faith a gift from God is to be tested.
    refined separated sanctified made holy.
    by consent? or by the power of God?

    God’s ability to subject all things to Himself.

    40 Then the Lord said to Job,

    2
    “Will the faultfinder contend with the Almighty?
    Let him who reproves God answer it.”

    3 Then Job answered the Lord and said,

    4
    “Behold, I am insignificant; what can I reply to You?
    I lay my hand on my mouth.
    5
    “Once I have spoken, and I will not answer;
    Even twice, and I will add nothing more.”

    6 Then the Lord answered Job out of the storm and said,

    7
    “Now gird up your loins like a man;
    I will ask you, and you instruct Me.
    8
    “Will you really annul My judgment?
    Will you condemn Me that you may be justified?
    9
    “Or do you have an arm like God,
    And can you thunder with a voice like His?

    10
    “Adorn yourself with eminence and dignity,
    And clothe yourself with honor and majesty.
    11
    “Pour out the overflowings of your anger,
    And look on everyone who is proud, and make him low.
    12
    “Look on everyone who is proud, and humble him,
    And tread down the wicked where they stand.
    13
    “Hide them in the dust together;
    Bind them in the hidden place.
    14
    “Then I will also confess to you,
    That your own right hand can save you.

    you LORD, only Your Right Hand can save, Jesus, The Right Hand of God.

  22. jeff1 says:

    My point, Pooh, is that you must know God to trust Him otherwise the enemy can distract and deceive you.

    I know this because I run from God most of my life.

    While God doesn’t force us He does at every opportunity enlighten us to His ways.

    Speaking from experience I didn’t get to know God by being disgruntled at what others do but by focusing on Him myself.

    God doesn’t force Himself on anyone nor can you force your beliefs on God on anyone as faith is very much a gift.

    If the world doesn’t know Him it is because it is not seeking Him but God shows Himself to those of us who do and that is where my peace of mind and contentment comes from God Himself.

    God is everything He says He is and more but it takes faith to see Him in a wayward world such as this one.

  23. poohpity says:

    Viv, your point is that you must know God to trust Him, how does one get to know God? Are you also saying that I force by beliefs of God on others?

  24. jeff1 says:

    11.) “We want not so much a Father but a grandfather in heaven, a God who said of anything we happened to like doing, ‘What does it matter so long as they are contented?” – C. S. Lewis

  25. poohpity says:

    Yes C.S. Lewis was confronting a wrong impression of God. So is he (Lewis) forcing his beliefs about God on others? No! He just has a personal relationship with God and has grown to know God intimately and is sharing what he has learned to help others grow closer to God. Just as Paul, Peter, David and John do in their writings.

  26. street says:

    The Humility of God
    knowing God
    best seen in Jesus, the only begotten Son of God.
    by faith

    it gets really interesting when the humility of God and the Holiness of God come together.

    those who come to God must believe and receive the mercy of God. therefor denial and a cross. and these, a gift from God. people are bent twisted in the dark about wages work effort. thinking about the question why was this man born blind? who sinned he or his parents? thinking about those who did not have the law yet there sins were not counted against them, yet they still died. grace and mercy at work, a work of God. seems we need to get eyes and ears that see and hear God. best seen and heard in Christ.

    thinking about the ones who try to enter the kingdom by force. more like surrender to a Sovereign.

  27. street says:

    16 Therefore do not let what you know is good be spoken of as evil. 17 For the kingdom of God is not a matter of eating and drinking, but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit, 18 because anyone who serves Christ in this way is pleasing to God and receives human approval.

  28. Beloved says:

    and receives human approval.

    Interesting, I just noticed that. There seems to be a tension about what is approved and the activity behind it. Am I approved, humanly speaking, because I love? Humility produces much love. A rare beautiful thing.

  29. Beloved says:

    but of righteousness, peace and joy in the Holy Spirit,

    Yes, don’t we all want that? Doesn’t everyone? I believe so.

  30. jeff1 says:

    I don’t believe there are a set of rules for getting to know God but a desire to do so.

    That desire for me came from a life confused by violence and hatred and a need to understand if God cared.

    I had seen a lot of the dark side of life and it wasn’t doing my mental health any good.

    I loved to listen to music and I found that gospel was particularly comforting to my mind.

    It was the words of the songs that would bring me a peace and reassure me of God’s love.

    I guess I needed to know I was loved having found I was surrounded by so much hatred.

    On the matter of others putting their beliefs of God on me I found it was from their perspective and differed to mine because I was seeking His love above all other and I am not quite sure what they were seeking.

  31. poohpity says:

    I never thought there were any rules about getting to know God. Getting to know Him, to me, is like any other relationship you spend time with Him, listening, watching what He does and experiencing His presence. Aren’t others just sharing their experiences with God, that is after all what witnessing or personal testimonies are all about isn’t it?

  32. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    August 29, 2019 at 12:36 pm
    Viv, your point is that you must know God to trust Him, how does one get to know God?

    poohpity says:
    August 29, 2019 at 5:37 pm
    I never thought there were any rules about getting to know God.

    I never said that you did but you did ask me the question and I was just answering how I came to trust in Him.

    I think God draws people to Himself in different ways as He has done with me such is the vastness and greatness of God which is beyond my understanding.

    It’s encouraging to hear others stories as it colabarates my belief that God is all encompassing.

    God is so not limited and yet many try to limit Him which is what I don’t understand as God is so much more than the eye can see.]

    His Eye Is on the Sparrow

    Why should I feel discouraged, why should the shadows come
    Why should my heart feel lonely and long for Heaven and home
    When Jesus is my portion, a constant friend is He
    His eye is on the sparrow and I know He watches over me
    His eye is on the sparrow and I know He watches me

    I sing because I’m happy, I sing because I’m free
    His eye is on the sparrow and I know He watches me, He watches me
    His eye is on the sparrow and I know He watches
    I know He watches, I know He watches me

    I sing because I’m happy, I sing because I’m free
    His eye is on the sparrow and I know he watches me, He watches me
    His eye is on the sparrow and I know he watches me, He watches me
    He watches me, I never thought, He watches me

  33. poohpity says:

    I thought I asked how one comes to know God since you said you have to know Him to trust Him?

  34. foreverblessed says:

    We prayed for the people you would encounter, Pooh, that God would bless them.

    In my Utmost of today:
    God’s LIFE flowing through us, blessing others, without us knowing John 7:38

    Having a personal relationship with Jesus.
    Having our attention fixed on Him, all of mye time.
    That’s the theory,
    In practice it is a discipline. Many times a day I am so focussed on the job at hand.
    And then a thought enters: where is Jesus in this?
    But as we walk with Jesus we grow closer and closer.

  35. foreverblessed says:

    The humility of Jesus:
    The ones Jesus was criticizing very harshly,
    They
    were also the ones Jesus hang on the Cross for.

    That when I am being critical about someones behavior, do I also want to suffer for them?
    Just as Jesus was so willing?!

  36. jeff1 says:

    You open your heart to Him or that is what I believe and of course the heart is deceitful above all else or so I have found.

    I cannot deceive God and so the battle of wills begins.

    I believe that you are right in saying that God does not force His will on a reluctant convert.

    I also believe He doesn’t give up on them and that is because God takes into consideration what causes them to fall from Grace.

    I start of believing that I must get to know God only to find that He knows me inside and out and loves me anyway.

    Its called unconditional love and I have seen it in people who truly know God and the strange thing is that they are not even aware of it.

    They do not even claim to know God to any great decree yet their words and actions speak for themselves.

    I am in awe of them and they make me feel safe, secure and loved and are a joy to be around.

    Yes, you did ask how one comes to know God and for some it seems with great difficulty while for others it is like a walk in the park.

  37. jeff1 says:

    From my perspective it seems that some people are born with greater insight to God than others.

    There are many who think it is about keeping rules and they believe that pleases God but I never did buy into that way of thinking.

    The harder I tried to keep the rules the more likely I was to break them.

    God isn’t like the headmaster who used to come down on me with a big stick when I failed to do my homework or behaved badly in class.

    God isn’t just about keeping rules yet I live in a world that is full of them and when I break them there is one authority or another ready to make me pay either financially or lawfully.

    In this world you will have tribulation and that is not something I enjoy very much but it is something I have to live with for the time being.

    God never said it would be easy and so is it wrong expectations on my part to expect contentment in this world!

    There is much more mystery to God then there is clarity from where I am standing.

  38. street says:

    jeff was thinking about the son who was asked to go into the vineyard and work. he said no, but later he went and worked in the vineyard. we do have a very interesting relations with the Father, one of grace. prodigals and mendicants.

    those who hope in His mercy will not be disappointed.

  39. poohpity says:

    Forever, thank you so much for the prayers.

    Viv, if one does not know God how can you recognize Him in someone else? One may be seeing worldly attributes and mistake them for something else for instance when someone is kind to those who are kind back which is how everyday people act but being kind to those who are not kind back now that is a difference that shows the power of God in a person’s life or being kind to people who treat you poorly or returning good for evil.

    God has revealed so much about Himself for those who truly seek and search for Him. One will never be disappointed in how open He is to revealing Himself to us. He wants us to know Him.

    Hosea 6: “3 Oh, that we might know the Lord!
    Let us press on to know him.
    He will respond to us as surely as the arrival of dawn
    or the coming of rains in early spring.”………6 I want you to show love,
    not offer sacrifices.
    I want you to know me
    more than I want burnt offerings.”

  40. poohpity says:

    The best revelation of God came through Jesus Christ, God with skin on.

  41. SFDBWV says:

    Any time any of you want to find a little humility I would suggest you go to “YouTube” and watch and listen to “Emmylou Harris- Bang the Drum Slowly (Memorial Day 2017)”

    There is life outside of church and that is where Christ is needed and where He is.

    68 degrees f and the smell of Fall in the cool morning air.

    Steve

  42. poohpity says:

    Now that was the very essence of HUMILITY! Laying down all that power to walk among His creation.

  43. poohpity says:

    When the Saints meet together in homes or in buildings they encourage and equip each other to the work and good that the Lord has given us to, to be servants to the many in the name of our Lord. To bring Glory to Him. His people are the church, not a building.

  44. poohpity says:

    A Call to Persevere
    …24And let us consider how to spur one another on to love and good deeds. 25Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

  45. Beloved says:

    Humility without hypocrisy.

    I believe it is impossible for me to attain. But Jesus makes a good role model, particularly if He is dwelling in us. Christ in me, alone the hope of glory!

  46. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, talk is cheap until you walk in someone else’s shoes and our enemies here shoot to kill they don’t take prisoners.

    You believe there is good in everyone but I know better after 30 years of murder and mayhem.

    Keep looking out of those rose coloured spectacles because lets be honest there are people that are too heavenly focused that they are no earthly good to man or God.

  47. poohpity says:

    God bless your heart Viv!

    I have never met anyone that is so heavenly focused they are no earthly good but I have met many people that are focused on heaven that do much earthly good. I wish I did have rose colored glasses so I would be able to look at bitter, hostile, hateful people in a better light than as they truly are but that does not stop me from being kind to them in spite of their behavior, returning good for evil is the only we will change our own hearts and touch those around us in the name of Jesus.

    I guess I do not hear many news stories about the people in your country shooting to kill others and taking no prisoners maybe a long time ago but not now. It is sad to live in the past and not look forward with hope towards the future.

  48. jeff1 says:

    I am surprised that you are not aware how selective the news can be in what it reports and what is the truth.

    You believe what you want to as I find most people would rather believe what they want then actually hear or seek the truth.

    Money talks in this world and it seems that everyone has their price when it comes to hiding the truth but the truth cannot be hid from God.

    I am not surprised that many want to forget the evils of the past because America did financially support the terrorists here so at least we know who our friends are.

    New York on St Patrick’s day should be right up your street since you are into returning good for evil without a thought for the victims of that evil many whom where your brothers and sisters in Christ.

    You, who talks of solidarity with your brother and sisters in Christ and then tramps on their graves, shame on you and may God forgive your trespass.

  49. poohpity says:

    Viv, again speaking in ignorance of things or people you know nothing about. Jumping to conclusions and assuming the worst in anyone is very revealing about who owns your heart.

  50. Beloved says:

    Return into the rest, oh my soul.

    psalm 27 The Lord is my light and my salvation;

    whom shall I fear?

    The Lord is the stronghold1 of my life;

    of whom shall I be afraid?

    2When evildoers assail me

    to eat up my flesh,

    my adversaries and foes,

    it is they who stumble and fall.

    3Though an army encamp against me,

    my heart shall not fear;

    though war arise against me,

    yet2 I will be confident.

    4One thing have I asked of the Lord,

    that will I seek after:

    that I may dwell in the house of the Lord

    all the days of my life,

    to gaze upon the beauty of the Lord

    and to inquire3 in his temple.

    5For he will hide me in his shelter

    in the day of trouble;

    he will conceal me under the cover of his tent;

    he will lift me high upon a rock.

    6And now my head shall be lifted up

    above my enemies all around me,

    and I will offer in his tent

    sacrifices with shouts of joy;

    I will sing and make melody to the Lord.

    7Hear, O Lord, when I cry aloud;

    be gracious to me and answer me!

    8You have said, “Seek4 my face.”

    My heart says to you,

    “Your face, Lord, do I seek.”5

    9Hide not your face from me.

    Turn not your servant away in anger,

    O you who have been my help.

    Cast me not off; forsake me not,

    O God of my salvation!

    10For my father and my mother have forsaken me,

    but the Lord will take me in.

    11Teach me your way, O Lord,

    and lead me on a level path

    because of my enemies.

    12Give me not up to the will of my adversaries;

    for false witnesses have risen against me,

    and they breathe out violence.

    13I believe6 that I shall look upon the goodness of the Lord

    in the land of the living!

    14Wait for the Lord;

    be strong, and let your heart take courage;

    wait for the Lord.

  51. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    August 30, 2019 at 7:57 pm
    Viv, again speaking in ignorance of things or people you know nothing about. Jumping to conclusions and assuming the worst in anyone is very revealing about who owns your heart.

    And you know nothing about what goes on in my country or what goes on in my heart so don’t tell me I am ignorant just look in the mirror. I have lived here all my life and see what goes on irrespective of what your media feeds you so it might be advisable to take the advice you have just dished out.

    If I listened to all the media feeds me about America I can assure you I would have a very dim view of the place but I have visited there and so I am much more informed.

    You want to see what really goes on you visit the no go areas in Belfast where paramilitaries terrorise the residents but the Government has negotiated with terrorists so they will have you believe that those things don’t go on anymore because its so much easier to hide what we should be ashamed of and pretend it doesn’t happen as it makes everyone feel good and we are so into feeling good these days that we are prepared to be ignorant rather than exposed.

    But we see how that plans out because as my mum would say lies and murder will not stay buried and when we look in the news today and see revelation after revelation then I would say my dear mum had much better vision then I have ever had.

    My mum always said my dad was too gullible when it came to people as she said he thought people were like himself and that was God seeking, honest, hard working and willing to sacrifice for the good of others and so I am happy that he is not on this earth today to see how self seeking people really are.

    Pooh, just an observation but you seem to be stuck on the passages in the Bible that speak of the Pharisee’s as if that is the only sin that we can get caught up in.

    It might interest you to know that almost 40 years ago a young British soldier said to me for a country so full of churches and religion we didn’t have many christians and I was appalled at his observation and snapped back at him.

    40 years on and I now see exactly what that soldier was talking about as hindsight as a way of showing us the truth.

    I now see that I treated that soldier as if he was ignorant and jumping to conclusions but the truth is he wasn’t as he was on the outside looking in and his view was much clearer than mine. We where very much the hypocrites he said we where and one side was no better than the other.

    The truth hurts I find but bury it at your peril because God is a God of truth and the past will come back to haunt us and that is not because God wants to hurt us but its the only way He gets us to see our own hypocrisy.

    I am well aware of the deceitfulness in my own heart and why I need Jesus as I struggle with it daily in my pursuit of what is right in His eyes because I find my vision can get very easily blurred and finding the truth can be like finding a needle in a haystack.

    In seeking God’s truth you will find many pitfalls and I have fallen into enough of them in my life to know.

    It isn’t about how many times you fall into them but how with God’s help you get back out.

    Each time God reveals more truths to me showing me just how blind I really am.

  52. poohpity says:

    Viv, the things I was speaking of when talking about in ignorance was the things you say about me. I am not your enemy nor do I dislike you and I have read everything you have written about the ugliness in your country continually since you have been on here but isn’t there ever anything good that happens there at all?

  53. poohpity says:

    and another thing I do not think that God points out our shortcomings all the time that comes from the enemy not God. God tells us and shows us how much we mean to Him and the lengths He is willing to go to have a relationship with us.

  54. poohpity says:

    God has provided us with a new life in Christ Jesus the old has gone the new has come. Give up the things that bind us and hold us captive like hate and practice the newness of life and a new way of looking at all things through Spiritual eyes.

  55. foreverblessed says:

    Comment Aug 30, 10.17 pm, Beloved
    Psalm 27:1-14
    The Lord is my Light
    and my-y Salva-tion
    Whom then shall I fear
    Whom then shall I fear

    This Psalm is written in a beautiful hymn, one of the first big pieces that I sang in a church choir…
    A lovely song
    The melody gets dark in verse 2 and 3
    And is lifted up again in verse a littlee bit Ine verse 4 and a bit more in verse 5.
    I just loved singing this song when I was a teenager.
    It ends again in:
    The Lord is my Light, and my Salvation.

    It is really an added value to sing bible verses, it is like meditating, and because of the music deeper insights come.
    And when times getest rough, the song comes again in your head.

  56. street says:

    45 Philip *found Nathanael and *said to him, “We have found Him of whom Moses in the Law and also the Prophets wrote—Jesus of Nazareth, the son of Joseph.” 46 Nathanael said to him, “Can any good thing come out of Nazareth?” Philip *said to him, “Come and see.” 47 Jesus saw Nathanael coming to Him, and *said of him, “Behold, an Israelite indeed, in whom there is no deceit!”

    He was called a Nazarene. He is from God. He came for the glory of God and the redemption of man.

    nothing good came from Nazareth, but good can come to a human soul.

  57. street says:

    John 9

  58. Beloved says:

    Forever I completely agree, singing psalms hymns and spiritual songs have been a major part of my walk with God also. Just like Viv likes gospel music. When I became a Christian I would change the words of songs I knew before to God praising words. I’ve always loved music just never had the opportunity to pursue higher forms after middle school.

  59. street says:

    29 “Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. 30 And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ 31 So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. 32 Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!

  60. Beloved says:

    For my father and my mother have forsaken me,
    but the Lord will take me in.

    This verse was so comforting when my parents disowned me and burned all the gifts (I used to hand make everything) I had given them in their back yard! Not only was I losing my husband but they also turned away from me in a dramatic fashion. What profits a person if they gain the whole world but lose Christ? Eventually they did turn to Gods call and found mercy when they were both in their 70’s. What a way to end a troubled life!! Thank you Jesus for creating new beginnings that last for eternity!

  61. Beloved says:

    Be Thou my Vision, O Lord of my heart
    Naught be all else to me, save that Thou art
    Thou my best Thought, by day or by night
    Waking or sleeping, Thy presence my light
    Be Thou my Wisdom, and Thou my true Word
    I ever with Thee and Thou with me, Lord
    Thou my great Father, I Thy true son
    Thou in me dwelling, and I with Thee one
    Riches I heed not, nor man’s empty praise
    Thou mine Inheritance, now and always
    Thou and Thou only, first in my heart
    High King of Heaven, my Treasure Thou art
    High King of Heaven, my victory won
    May I reach Heaven’s joys, O bright Heav’n’s Sun
    Heart of my own heart, whate’er befall
    Still be my Vision, O Ruler of all

  62. cbrown says:

    Good morning all!This mornings daiy bread was on point I believe. God will work through us if we allow Him.ODB.org 8/31.
    “We may have the same problem. Perhaps we grew up in churches with rigid rules that fenced us in. Or we were raised in permissive homes and are now desperate for the security of rules. Either way, it’s time to embrace our freedom in Christ (Galatians 5:1). Jesus has freed us to obey Him out of love (John 14:21) and to “serve one another humbly in love” (Galatians 5:13). An entire field of joy and love is open for those who realize “if the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed” (John 8:36).” Love, Chris

  63. Beloved says:

    Amen! Thank you for sharing that. I was thinking of you with Dorian approaching. Praying for safety. Blessings, Joyce

  64. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, there are good things that is what keeps us living in hope but that doesn’t mean I will turn a blind eye to evil.

    We do not live in an ideal world though it seems to me Pooh that you believe by telling yourself you do that it will some how become ideal.

    You need to wake up to the fact that not everyone sees God as you do and therefor have no scruples when it comes to living their life as they like while claiming to know God.

    I watched a tv programme the other night where a self confessed republican which means his aim is by what ever means to get a United Ireland spoke of how he thought it was all right for the abduction, torture and killing of two British soldiers because he told the journalist they have no right to be here.
    He has a photo of Christ on his wall and no doubt would tell you of his love for Him.

    This is the reality of this world Pooh because no doubt this man believes that as long as he confesses his sin then he can continue on hating and condoning evil because God will forgive him anyway as that is what his religion has taught and he wants to believe it because it gives him the freedom to be as nasty as he likes.

    You are not on the mountain top here you are down in the valley with the devil himself and if you want to shake hands with him you go right ahead but I know whose side I am on and it isn’t his.

  65. poohpity says:

    Wow Viv, where do you get all that stuff you accuse me of and lie about? I can say one thing you sure do have a vivid imagination.

  66. street says:

    it is amazing how much wood hays and stubble are around to build with. might be good to look for things tested by fire. i know i need to stay alert.

  67. Beloved says:

    I was thinking about what it means to take Jesus’ s words to heart. Could it produce humility? The scribes and Pharisees also struggled with this.

  68. poohpity says:

    Isn’t humility found and practiced when we put the interest and good of others above ourselves? Jesus showed us what the heart of a servant looks like when He took His clothes off and wrapped a towel around His waist and washed the feet of His disciples while teaching them to do likewise. All that after they argued about which one of them would be greatest in the Kingdom of God.

  69. poohpity says:

    Heb 13: Now may the God of peace—
    who brought up from the dead our Lord Jesus,
    the great Shepherd of the sheep,
    and ratified an eternal covenant with his blood—
    21
    may he equip you with all you need
    for doing his will.
    May he produce in you,
    through the power of Jesus Christ,
    every good thing that is pleasing to him.
    All glory to him forever and ever! Amen.

    Also in Hebrews we are warned to not let the root of bitterness grow within us, “Look after each other so that none of you fails to receive the grace of God. Watch out that no poisonous root of bitterness grows up to trouble you, corrupting many.”.

  70. Beloved says:

    Humility in practice

    2 Timothy 2:24-25 24And the LORD’s servant must not be quarrelsome but must be kind to everyone, able to teach, not resentful. 25Opponents must be gently instructed, in the hope that God will grant them repentance leading them to a knowledge of the truth,

    2 Timothy 2:14 14Keep reminding God’s people of these things. Warn them before God against quarreling about words; it is of no value, and only ruins those who listen.

    Philippians 2:14-16 14Do everything without grumbling or arguing, 15so that you may become blameless and pure, “children of God without fault in a warped and crooked generation.” Then you will shine among them like stars in the sky 16as you hold firmly to the word of life. And then I will be able to boast on the day of Christ that I did not run or labor in vain.

  71. Beloved says:

    Lack of humility
    Galatians 5:26 New International Version (NIV)
    26 Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.

    What if, in our willfulness or neglect or lack of interest, a Christian just does not participate in “walking by the Spirit”?

    Paul answers that, in part, in this verse: we become conceited, proud, and arrogant. Life in the Spirit of God requires submission to God and humility. It is about Him and not us. Trying to lead a Christian life in our own power results in too much focus on ourselves, puffing us up in the way that religious people often become self-righteous.

    From there, it gets worse. Proud people, by definition, are in the business of self-promotion. That leads to provoking others to compete with us instead serving alongside us. Inevitably, prideful religious competitions for honor and self-worth lead to envy, resenting those who seem to outwardly have obtained what we want everyone to see in us.

    Without the power and direction-setting of the Holy Spirit, the Christian life turns into a destructive and self-serving religious existence. Rather than fall into that pit, Paul seems to say, we should figure out how to walk by the Spirit. Bible reference

  72. Beloved says:

    Viv I’ve been thinking about what you talked about concerning the behaviors of the IRA and believing they will be forgiven because they follow Christ. Paul talked about that in Romans that it is sin to sin willfully relying on the grace of God to forgive. I can understand why you are angry and upset. I would be also if this was my experience. Peter was like that before Jesus was taken away, his own righteous indignation cut off a guards ear! But Jesus restored the ear, in love and humility, knowing what was coming, that He would become sin, the very thing he abhorred for the guard, for Peter and for me and you. Wonderful marvelous grace and mercy of God. As you say it was Americans that funded the IRA, and for that I am very very sorry. Please forgive us for this great sin and the destruction it caused and continues to bring about in flesh, hearts and minds of your countrymen. To say we didn’t know what we were doing is a cop out. Though America isn’t the “Christian” nation it sometimes purports to be it is made up of all kinds of people, including some who follow Christ in Truth, and not according to what they “ think” , as the world of satan does. It is the world outside the world, the Kingdom of God that is the real world. You are welcome to partake whenever you decide. Jesus says come Vivien, I love you and want you with Me forever. My yoke is easy and my burden is light.

  73. bubbles says:

    Just saw Mart’s new post. How beautifully and thoughtfully did he express his thoughts. I cannot read any of the posts because the font is too small.

    How it must hurt our Lord’s heart to see the fighting and bullying that goes on here. All of this fighting does not represent our Lord and this should not be the behavior of believers.

    Please pray for Pegramsdell who used to post here. She could be near the storm that is brewing.

    I am having the worst time in my life right now. I cannot do all this and when I try to help I’m met with opposition. I’m exhausted and I am sick today.

  74. Beloved says:

    Sorry to hear you are having a bad time, bubbles.

  75. jeff1 says:

    Thank you, Beloved, for explaining about how the Bible explains willful sinning as I find it very upsetting that there are people who believe in Jesus and do not see the wrong in it.

    I struggle in my head and in my own heart with my own demons and forgetting the past is not that easy but with my faith and music I have found new peace and trust in God.

    I know I need to leave what I don’t understand in God’s hands and He will take care of the future and I need to stop watching programmes that dwell on the past when all they do is upset me.

    I should also stop engaging with Pooh as her words I don’t understand and should avoid the animosity that develops.

    I have no desire to point the finger at anyone or any country for past mistakes as I have made enough of my own and my desire is to seek a future that will be very different for my children and their children as any right thinking people should ensure that the ugliness myself and many lived through does not get a chance to repeat itself.

    I appreciate your thoughtfulness in saying sorry for the past mistakes of others and pray that those who are so blinded will reconsider the anguish they cause when they make choices without considering God first.

  76. Beloved says:

    I was watching a show about the drug cartels of South America who also pray to various saints for success in selling/delivering their drugs, and that they won’t get caught or killed! I recall hearing about the mafia from Italy who are very religious (Catholic) that also pray for protection from God as they go about killing, extortion and the like. How confusing that must be to grow up in those scenarios. We don’t choose our parents though. So grateful for hearing about the justice of God through Christ Jesus! Loving enemies is so hard for me to do. I must rely on the grace of God to teach me and ask for mercy daily. It takes a real softening of my heart.

  77. jeff1 says:

    Yes, we need to be patient as God is patient and that can be difficult when suffering but as someone who sees things very differently 40 years on I see that need to try and understand because people have been brought up in very different scenarios and in my limited view I see now that it is only God who knows best and that is what He has been trying to tell me all along but I have been too blind to see it.

  78. Beloved says:

    I love your honesty Viv. God bless you abundantly!

  79. jeff1 says:

    God bless you abundantly too Beloved.

  80. Beloved says:

    Thank you.

  81. jeff1 says:

    May I live in the light of Your cross, Lord.
    Shape my life by Your death for me.
    May each day be a song of thanksgiving,
    For Your suffering has set me free.
    But Jesus, I bow, Your debtor.
    You have bought me at such a precious price.
    So I’ll spend all I have in Your service
    And my life as Your sacrifice.

    May Your love be my lord and my master.
    Keep my heart daily open wide.
    Fill my words with a patient compassion
    For each person for whom You died.
    Rejoicing, I take Your cross, Lord,
    That the world may be crucified to me.
    Now I turn from its pain and its pleasure,
    For Your cross is my liberty.

  82. street says:

    What does straw have in common with grain?” declares the Lord. 29 “Is not My word like fire?” declares the Lord, “and like a hammer which shatters a rock?

    The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, O God, You will not despise.

    3 “Blessed are the poor in spirit, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    4 “Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.

    5 “Blessed are the gentle, for they shall inherit the earth.

    6 “Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness, for they shall be satisfied.

    7 “Blessed are the merciful, for they shall receive mercy.

    8 “Blessed are the pure in heart, for they shall see God.

    9 “Blessed are the peacemakers, for they shall be called sons of God.

    10 “Blessed are those who have been persecuted for the sake of righteousness, for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.

    11 “Blessed are you when people insult you and persecute you, and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of Me. 12 Rejoice and be glad, for your reward in heaven is great; for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you.

    thinking how branches produces fruit, only when connected to the vine. a work of God.

  83. jeff1 says:

    How Great Thou Art

    Oh Lord my God
    When I in awesome wonder
    Consider all
    The worlds thy hands have made
    I see the stars
    I hear the rolling thunder
    Thy power throughout
    The universe displayed

    When Christ shall come
    With a shout of acclamation
    And take me home
    What joy shall fill my heart
    Then I shall bow
    In humble adoration
    And there proclaim
    My God, how great thou art

    Then sings my soul
    My savior God to thee (my God to thee)
    How great thou art (how great thou art)
    How great thou art (how great thou art)
    Then sings my soul
    My savior God to thee (my God to thee)
    How great thou art
    (How great thou art)

    How great thou art
    (How great thou art)
    How great thou art (how great thou art

  84. bratimus says:

    So I a little behind on this new topic.

    Steve brought up the elusive contentment, well as I have walked through I’ve noticed that one person contentment depends on another person contentment to be lacking. For the successful to be content the humble have to lack contentment. We have so much we should be happier then those that have so little. This is where persecution and oppression rise.

    For those with so much lack one thing, God’s peace and God’s Grace upon them.

    In Christ name

    Bratimus

    I’m still reading through the rest of the comments

  85. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    August 31, 2019 at 6:30 pm

    Wow Viv, where do you get all that stuff you accuse me of and lie about? I can say one thing you sure do have a vivid imagination.

    Just to be clear Pooh I accuse you of nothing nor lie about you as any comments I made were in relation to what questions you ask me or my own interpretation of what goes on in my country and how you should be careful about what you hear in the media as they can be selective in their writings.

    It seems that I keep misunderstanding what exactly you are trying to say so perhaps it is best if I do not go there as it always ends in you accusing me of something I never intended.

    Your walk and mine are very different and so it is not surprising that we cannot relate to each other very well and jump to wrong conclusions.

    I have seen in my own country how divise that can be and why I see the need to be focused on what God is saying to each of us as it is His leading that directs our paths.

    LEAD ME GUIDE ME

    Lead me oh Lord, won’t you lead me
    I am tired and I need Thy strength and power
    To guide me over my darkest hour
    For just open my eyes that I may see
    Lead me oh Lord, won’t you lead me

    Lead me, guide me along the way
    For if you lead me I cannot stray
    Or just open my eyes that I may see
    Lead me oh Lord, won’t you lead me
    I am lost if you take your hand from me
    I am blind without try light to see

    Lord just always let me Thy servant be
    Lead me oh Lord, won’t you lead me
    Lead me, guide me along the way
    For if you lead me I cannot stray

    Lord just open my eyes that I may see
    Lead me oh Lord, won’t you lead me

  86. Regina says:

    HAPPY Labor Day, All!
    I hope your day has been blessedly restful. I pray for you, bubbles, that the Lord will give you supernatural power to live out Psalm 23 in your life. I pray that the Lord will give you supernatural peace and rest in your mind, soul and spirit. I pray that HE will give you His peace because it passes all understanding. I pray that God will strengthen you and restore you in ways that are past finding out. And I look forward to hearing your testimony about the great things that God has done for you!

    I totally miss the old font size and format for this blog site (sigh)! It’s so hard to get use to the really small font and loose format when both used to be so inviting (dark carpet, chair, a cup of coffee, big words and neat, orderly format). Ok… on to another thought. I’m often intrigued by the picture that Mart chooses for each blog topic, and the pic for this blog is no exception… a man holding a baby. Thinking, the man in the pic could be representative of God the Father (*men are head of the household and men who are disciples of Jesus Christ are priests of their home) and the baby representative of God the Son. Babies are definitely humble, without an ounce of hypocrisy. Thinking of the character and heart of Jesus, the “Lamb” of God, compared to the character and heart of a baby… both are innocence–personified.

    I hope you all are getting some good rest today. I’m gonna go to the store later on to buy a little bit of junk food, then go to the pizza parlor if my favorite parlor is open today. Well, getting ready to watch a few episodes of a favorite holiday reality show (Forensic Files).

    96 degrees and sunny in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,
    Regina

  87. Beloved says:

    Jesus himself will humble us, let us give him our consent to do so. Andrew Murray

  88. jeff1 says:

    I think Pooh is right in that God will not force me to consent which is why it is a struggle in me to let go and let God.

    There is great discipline in it which is perhaps why I see that it comes easier to some than others.

    I am reminded of how my dad’s expectations kept in mind God’s supremacy as he would say when ask something he did not have an answer to ‘if it is God’s will’ or ‘God willing’.

    He would not claim to know anything other than what will be, will be.

    When I was just a little boy,
    I asked my mother, “What will I be?
    Will I be pretty?
    Will I be rich?”
    Here’s what she said to me:

    “Que sera, sera,
    Whatever will be, will be;
    The future’s not ours to see.
    Que sera, sera,
    What will be, will be.”

    When I was just a child in school,
    I asked my teacher, “What will I try?
    Should I paint pictures”
    Should I sing songs?”
    This was her wise reply:

    “Que sera, sera,
    Whatever will be, will be;
    The future’s not ours to see.
    Que sera, sera,
    What will be, will be.”

    When I grew up and fell in love.
    I asked my sweetheart, “What lies ahead?
    Will we have rainbows
    Day after day?”
    Here’s what my sweetheart said:

    “Que sera, sera,
    Whatever will be, will be;
    The future’s not ours to see.
    Que sera, sera,
    What will be, will be.”

    Now I have Children of my own.
    They ask their mother, “What will I be?”
    Will I be handsome?
    Will I be rich?”
    I tell them tenderly:

    “Que sera, sera,
    Whatever will be, will be;
    The future’s not ours to see.
    Que sera, sera,
    What will be, will be.
    Que Sera, Sera!”

  89. poohpity says:

    Humility at it finest when someone is scorned, beaten within a inch of His life till His flesh was unrecognizable as human flesh then nailed naked to a Cross in public humiliation YET said, “Father forgiven them they know not what they do.” Our ignorance and weakness was shown in His greatest triumph. The very reason He laid down His great power to be lead like a sheep to slaughter for His enemies so that they may have an abundant life in Him and would in turn call them friends and brothers/sisters for those who believe.

    So if we make a choice to be held captive to hate, then we have chosen a life of being bound in chains to the flesh and leave behind a joyous life filled with forgiveness, love and mercy which will be almost impossible to find when our hearts are already full but with hate instead of love.

    What is filling your heart today?

  90. poohpity says:

    “Overcomer”

    Staring at a stop sign
    Watching people drive by
    T mac on the radio
    Got so much on your mind
    Nothing’s really going right
    Looking for a ray of hope

    Whatever it is you may be going through
    I know he’s not gonna let it get the best of you
    You’re an overcomer

    Stay in the fight ’til the final round
    You’re not going under
    ‘Cause God is holding you right now
    You might be down for a moment
    Feeling like it’s hopeless
    That’s when he reminds you
    That you’re an overcomer
    You’re an overcomer

    Everybody’s been down
    Hit the bottom, hit the ground
    Ooh, You’re not alone
    Just take a breath, don’t forget
    Hang on to his promises
    He wants you to know

    You’re an overcomer
    Stay in the fight ’til the final round
    You’re not going under
    ‘Cause God is holding you right now
    You might be down for a moment
    Feeling like it’s hopeless
    That’s when he reminds you
    That you’re an overcomer
    You’re an overcomer

    The same man, the great I am
    The one who overcame death
    Is living inside of you
    So just hold tight, fix your eyes
    On the one who holds your life
    There’s nothing he can’t do
    He’s telling you

    You’re an overcomer
    Stay in the fight ’til the final round
    You’re not going under
    ‘Cause God is holding you right now
    You might be down for a moment
    Feeling like it’s hopeless
    That’s when he reminds you
    That you’re an overcomer
    You’re an overcomer
    You’re an overcomer

    You’re an overcomer

    See don’t quit, don’t give in
    You’re an overcomer

    Don’t quit, don’t give in
    You’re an overcomer

    Don’t quit, don’t give in
    You’re an overcomer

    You’re an overcomer

  91. poohpity says:

    DON’T GIVE IN TO HATE!

  92. Beloved says:

    Hate, a difficult humiliation to take, yes.

  93. Beloved says:

    Jesus overcame sin by dying on a cross. Becoming sin for ME!! Oh my…

  94. poohpity says:

    What is a more humbling act than returning good for evil?

  95. Beloved says:

    Receiving mercy for sin.

  96. Beloved says:

    The Humility of God

  97. jeff1 says:

    Why is it that I don’t call myself a christian today because I don’t see myself as one and so it would be hypocritical for me to do so.

    I believe in God but I have not been able to forgive my enemies and I cannot lie to God about it.

    While my heart is not filled with hate for them I cannot condone their claim to be christian.

    When I seen the programme where an english journalist interviewed a christian who believed in the murder of their soldiers then I felt for the loved ones of their families as these young men had sacrificed their lives in defence of our country.

    I am who I am and I pray that God doesn’t love me any less for being so.

    I don’t see myself as bad as my enemies but that is just my perspective but I do see myself as a sinner saved by grace with the difference in me being that I struggle with my demons both inwardly and outwardly and see that as my cross to bear for my unforgiveness.

    I do believe that Pooh speaks for all of you here in believing the way forward is by loving your enemies which to my way of thinking means condoning their behaviour.

    For me it is not that simple because in condoning my enemies I add insult to injury to the victims of them and in all conscience I cannot do that.

    I am very much at God’s mercy in taking the stance I do but it is still my belief that it is the right one.

    God has always seemed to understand me and to me that is what matters as most of the time I do not understand myself that well and perhaps why I am so often my own worst enemy.

    God is good all the time but I see so well now that I am not.

  98. poohpity says:

    No one ever said that they condone the behaviors of evil from others. It isn’t pooh that teaches to love your enemies that comes right from the One and only Jesus Christ who did just that. That means even you Viv, who was once His enemy as well but He showed you mercy and forgiveness before you even asked Him to. Again no one has ever said they condone bad or evil behavior. Is it bad behavior to hold on to grudges when the only person it hurts is YOU and I know I do not want you to be hurt?

  99. jeff1 says:

    If you lived as I did with violence and hatred from childhood and seen no change in peoples attitudes then you would understand where I am coming from.

    I have been hurting all my life so believe me there is no difference as I have become accustomed to it as part of living in a world like this.

    You do not know me at all if you say I hold on to grudges but I do hold onto hurt because it seems right for me to do so as I do so for the right reasons in my mind having had close relations with the military.

    My father, myself and my son have served in the military and so any attack on them hurts me too and that’s just the way it is and nothing to do with me holding onto grudges.

    It is the attitude of most even some of my christian friends that if you live by the gun you should die by it and who am I to disagree since it seems fair to me that if I put on a uniform to fight for my country then I am indeed willing to kill or be killed in my defence of it.

  100. poohpity says:

    It is not me who says you hold on to grudges, you mention them all the time since you have been on here regarding how you think of those you call your enemies. Do you not think that Jesus has every right to hold onto grudges and hate for what the people did to Him even in His innocence and all people are far from innocent in fact all but Him has sinned and no sin is any worse than any other sin my dear friend. So who do we think we are to say there are degrees of sin and hold others to standards that we ourselves can not measure up to?

  101. Beloved says:

    I don’t know anyone who was argued into the Kingdom.

  102. Beloved says:

    You can’t serve both God and man.

  103. Beloved says:

    Oops that God and mammon. Serving man requires humility to do it like Jesus did.

  104. jeff1 says:

    I suppose it is the fact that I am a manic depressive that causes you to doubt the credibility of my word and so no matter what I say you will believe what you want to.

    I have told you that what I hold onto is my hurt that my enemies have caused me because they are still trying to hurt us and so how does one forget the past when the present hasn’t changed.

    Yes, Jesus has forgiven us sinners and I rejoice in that truth but I am still in the mess of it all and will be until He takes me home because Beloved is right you cannot serve man and God and that is the truth I have learned because I was one of the fools who tried and failed.

    Pooh, doesn’t have to argue me into the Kingdom because what has kept me going since my dad died is Jesus’s love for me.

    My enemies can kill us physically as they have done enough of my friends but they cannot kill the Spirit that has been my inheritance because God keeps His promises or so He keeps telling me.

    The Promise

    I never said that I would give you silver or gold
    Or that you would never feel the fire or shiver in the cold
    But I did say you’d never walk through this world alone
    And I did say, don’t make this world your home

    I never said that fear wouldn’t find you in the night
    Or that loneliness was something you’d never have to fight
    But I did say I’d be right there by your side
    And I did say I’ll always help you fight

    ‘Cause you know I made a promise that I intend to keep
    My grace will be sufficient in every time of need
    My love will be the anchor that you can hold onto
    This is the promise, this is the promise I made to you

    I never said that friends would never turn their backs on you
    Or that the world around you wouldn’t see you as a fool
    But I did say like me, you’ll surely be despised
    And I did say my ways confound the wise

    I didn’t say you’d never taste the bitter kiss of death
    Or have to walk through chilly Jordan to enter into rest
    But I did say I’d be waiting right on the other side (yeah, yeah)
    And I did say I’ll dry every tear you cry

    ‘Cause you know I made a promise that I’ve prepared a place
    And some day sooner than you think you’ll see me face to face
    And you’ll sing with the angels and a countless multitude
    This is the promise, this is the promise I’ve made to you

    So just keep on walkin’, don’t turn to the left or right
    And in the midst of darkness, let this be your light
    That hell can’t separate us and you’re gonna make it through
    This is the promise, this is the promise I made to you, oh
    This is the promise, this is the promise I made to you

  105. Beloved says:

    Having a deja vu moment here. I really wish you two would stop arguing. Again. Please.

  106. jeff1 says:

    It is my belief in God’s supremacy that keeps me going as it was what my dad bowed to during his lifetime and so it is ingrained in me to do likewise.

    Walk with me, Lord! Walk with me!
    Walk with me, Lord! Why don’t you walk with me!
    While I’m on this, this tedious journey,
    I need You, Jesus, to walk with me.

    Be my friend, Lord! Be my friend!
    Be my friend, Lord! Why don’t you be my friend!
    While I’m on this, this tedious journey,
    I need You, Jesus, to be my friend.

    Don’t leave me alone, Lord!
    Don’t leave me alone!
    Don’t leave me alone, Lord!
    Please don’t leave me alone!
    While I’m on this, this tedious journey,
    I need You, Jesus, to walk with me.

    Come on and play it Anthony.

    Oh, walk with me Lord
    Walk with me
    Come on and walk with me Lord
    Why don’t you walk with me
    Hey while I walk this this tedious journey
    Lord I need you Jesus yes I need you Lord to walk with me

  107. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, is deliberately trying to disturb my peace as she keeps going over the same old knowing that there is still conflict between my enemies and me.

    I have given my anger to God so that all they cause me is hurt now and I am used to hurting as I have been doing so all my life.

    I think of the day when Jesus will wipe the tears from my eyes and that makes it easier.

    In the meantime I want to forget I have enemies as they are faceless to me and in time I will make new memories and erase them from my thoughts.

    Perhaps this is not the place to do so as I need to know I am loved and not judged and that doesn’t seem to be working very well here.

  108. bubbles says:

    As a puppy, my dog would bark at me while I ate. He wanted me to feed him on demand. Since I did not want him to bark as I ate, I did not reinforce negative behavior. I would feed him while I ate, but I never fed him if he barked. He KNEW I would share with him, so he did not bark. I also save the last bite for him. Eating a meal was peaceful with him because the negative behavior was not reinforced and ignored. Viv, I hope you see what I am saying here; as long as negative behavior is reinforced, the negative behavior will persist.

  109. poohpity says:

    You ladies blame your ugly behavior on me or mental illness when it is just plain ole meanness. You are nice to each other because you are alike. Birds of a feather flock together. Just keep blaming me I have big shoulders and I get inside each of you and make you act like you do except you acted like that way before you ever came on this blog. It is just easier to excuse bad behavior by blaming it on someone else and never taking personal responsibility for anything and everything then nothing changes.

  110. poohpity says:

    Go back and reread when the attacks started after some of us were discussing the topic and the teaching of Jesus but it was taken as a personal insult. I wonder why that is?

  111. Beloved says:

    Humility of God

    Consider it pure joy, my brothers and sisters,[a] whenever you face trials of many kinds, 3 because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. 4 Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.

  112. Beloved says:

    God is sovereign. He allows trials to humble us. Therefore, count it all joy!

  113. Beloved says:

    And knock off the bickering and blaming.

  114. Beloved says:

    One more thing before I go to bed, I’d like you both to sit before an empty chair , now imagine Jesus is sitting in that chair, it’s just the two of you. Now, pour out your troubles to Him. How you’ve been misaligned, misunderstood, mistreated etc and tell Him you are mentally ill and looking for love and being picked on in general. EVERYTHING!! Then listen, quietly as He quiets your heart. I love you, Viv. I love you, Pooh. You are both precious in His sight.

  115. Beloved says:

    Have a blessed rest of the night, morning.

  116. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Jeff, Regina prayed a beautiful prayer for Bubbles.
    I wholeheartedly pray that prayer for you now!

    pray for you, Jeff, that the Lord will give you supernatural power to live out Psalm 23 in your life. I pray that the Lord will give you supernatural peace and rest in your mind, soul and spirit. I pray that HE will give you His peace because it passes all understanding. I pray that God will strengthen you and restore you in ways that are past finding out. And I look forward to hearing your testimony about the great things that God has done for you!
    Regina Sept 2, 1.54 pm

  117. foreverblessed says:

    For Pooh I have also a prayer:
    May the God of peace fill your heart with peace.
    May He bless you and keep you,
    May the Lord make His face shine upon you, and be gracious to you.
    The Lord turn His face towards you and give you peace.

  118. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Viv, it is 53 f degrees under a starry sky this morning. Even as fall turns to winter I especially enjoy the cool cold early morning air. There is something refreshing, clear and clean about it.

    It is there under the black star lit sky that I can feel a closeness to God that is somehow just not quite the same at other times.

    It is a quiet peace.

    Soon enough the noise of life will disrupt that peace and the tug and pull of others will drag me into having to deal with the problems others bring with them.

    It is quite impossible to ignore the negative things that surround us, but as bubbles has quite rightly put it we should never re-enforce or feed those negative energies that sap and steal our peace.

    One of the things I have always admired about you is your honesty. I love how you share your true honest feelings here.

    There are things written in Scripture that God hates and it is stated as such, “things that God hates”.

    When we are exposed to those same things we too are going to be repulsed by them and yes hate them as well.

    When my sister was a very young child she would pick at little bug bites on her legs. Though my mother would tell her not to she ignored mom and just picked away until the little sores bled, then complain because she was bleeding.

    There is not a single person out there who can honestly say the words and actions of others does not anger or upset them, but the key to real peace is to not let them control us or our behavior.

    To let our driving force be that of the Holy Spirit who guides and nudges us through daily life.

    The only way we can hope to change the bad behavior of another is by not letting them change us into them, to not let them drag us down to their level, to let them see something different in our behavior that they want, but don’t have.

    Taking the higher ground doesn’t mean not being humble. It is never right to bow down to bad behavior in defeat, but rather to rise above it in victory and overcome it.

    I pray for blessings for you and all today.

    Steve

  119. foreverblessed says:

    The Utmost of today, says:
    We are HIS
    How wonderful that we are!

    This brings to mind the SOng of Solomon, where the beloved one sings:
    “My Lover is mine and I am His”
    Song of Solomon 2:16

    From the Utmost:
    “They were Yours, You gave them to Me… —John 17:6”

    “I may prefer to belong to my mother, or to my wife, or to myself, but if that is the case, then, Jesus said, “[You] cannot be My disciple.” This does not mean that I will not be saved, but it does mean that I cannot be entirely His.”

    I find it interesting that here Oswald Chambers describes different types of christians: The ones that are growing really close to Him,
    and they are HIS

    …. and when do we know that we really did sogive ourselves totally over to Him
    (We are not lost… if we did not yet, though…)
    Street often talks about this:
    Thos who have build with hay and stubble.

    While looking up this bible verrse in the biblegateway, the verse of the day is:
    “What you heard from me, keep as the pattern of sound teaching, with faith and love in Christ Jesus. Guard the good deposit that was entrusted to you—guard it with the help of the Holy Spirit who lives in us.”
    2 Tim 1:13-14

    (There was a blog participant, the reverend I believe his name was, who adviced us to:
    Ask God….

    Wisdom, if we lack wisdom, ask God
    James 1:5,17
    He said: repeat the words of James 1:5 with James 1:17 over and over)

    Every good and gift is from above.

    Humility is also seeing that we miss a lot that is of spiritual value, and so we can lay it at the Cross, our shortcomings,
    but the exhortation is to ask!

    If you lack forgiveness,
    ASK forgiveness,

    If you lack patience, and forbearance:
    (reading the repetitive comments of blog members)

    ASK Patience and forbearance

    But if you ask, you must believe and not doubt
    James 1:6

  120. jeff1 says:

    Bubbles, love the story of you and your puppy. Thank you for lightening my load.

    Forever, I thank you for Regina’s prayer as the media in their wisdom are showing programmes all focusing on the troubles and I cannot seem to get away from the past so that I can focus on the present and the peace I desire.

    I do take what you, Steve, and Bubbles are saying but I find that the negativity does sap my energy as I have done nothing but sleep all week feeling exhausted from it all.

    I think it might be best for my peace of mind to take a break as one negative environment is draining enough and I really don’t need another.

    It is not what I would have expected on a christian blog but such is life today nothing is quite as I have expected.

    My dad would say that is because my expectations have been wrong but then he always was much wiser and closer to God then I was.

    This World Is Not My Home

    This world is not my home I’m just a passing through
    My treasures are laid up somewhere beyond the blue
    The angels beckon me from heaven’s open door
    And I can’t feel at home in this world anymore
    Oh lord you know I have no friend like you
    If heaven’s not my home then lord what will I do
    The angels beckon me from heaven’s open door
    And I can’t feel at home in this world anymore

    I have a loving mother just over in gloryland
    And I don’t expect to stop until I shake her hand
    She’s waiting now for me in heaven’s open door
    And I can’t feel at home in this world anymore
    Oh lord you know I have no friend like you
    If heaven’s not my home Then lord what will I do

    The angels beckon me From heaven’s open door
    And I can’t feel at home In this world anymore

    Just over in gloryland
    We’ll live eternally
    The saints on every hand are shouting victory

    Their songs of sweetest praise
    Drift back from heaven’s shore
    And I can’t feel at home In this world anymore

    Oh lord, you know I have no friend like you
    If heaven’s not my home Then lord what will I do

    The angels beckon me From heaven’s open door
    And I can’t feel at home In this world anymore

  121. poohpity says:

    There is nothing easy about following the example of Christ that is why He gave us a helper.

    He never offers advice or help unless we ask Him that takes much humility since He knows so well what we all need but does not force His ways on us which are contrary to the way one has always lived. Mart talked about it in the past when he spoke of the Christian life being topsy turvy to the ways of the world. Jesus also said to count the cost of being His followers, we lay down what comes natural to practicing another way and it takes time and help since we are so accustomed to handling things and people how we have always handled them.

    One will scorn and reject that which they do not know because the Christian life is upside down to the actions of the flesh. (i.e. returning good for evil, being kind to those who are not kind in return, loving those who do not love us back, giving not expecting anything in return, forgiving people who do not deserve it, like what God did for us)

  122. bratimus says:

    Me being upset or angry at bad behavior isn’t a sin, actually as the Father abhors evil and darkness if I’m filled with the holy spirit I will abhor it also. A sin would come in how I act on the anger, I turn to the Father, Son and Holy Spirit and ask for peace and God grace to wash over me. Sometime if I might yell do to my anger, it might not be me who is doing the yelling, it just might be the Holy Spirit putting out a warning.

    In Christ name

    Bratimus

  123. jeff1 says:

    I Vow to Thee, My Country

    I vow to thee, my country
    All earthly things above
    Entire and whole and perfect
    The service of my love

    The love that asks no questions
    The love that stands the test
    That lays upon the alter
    The dearest and the best

    The love that never falters
    The love that pays the price
    The love that makes undaunted
    The final sacrifice

    And there’s another country
    I’ve heard of long ago
    Most dear to them that love her
    Most great to them I know

    We may not count her armies
    We may not see her King
    Her fortress is a faithful heart
    Her pride is suffering

    And soul by soul and silently
    Her shining bounds increase
    And her ways are ways of gentleness
    And all her paths are peace

  124. Beloved says:

    Being a Christian does not make us automatically immune to Gods justice. He is very scary and fierce; but He is good. Humble thyself in the sight of the LORD, and He will lift you up.

  125. Beloved says:

    Viv I was reading this morning about what we talked about yesterday how some who call themselves Christians seem to get away with doing terrible things to others. It says in Jude:

    17But you, beloved, remember what was foretold by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ 18when they said to you, “In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow after their own ungodly desires.”e 19These are the ones who cause divisions, who are worldly and devoid of the Spirit.
    20But you, beloved, by building yourselves up in your most holy faith and praying in the Holy Spirit, 21keep yourselves in the love of God as you await the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you eternal life.
    22And indeed, have mercy on those who doubt; 23save others by snatching them from the fire; and to still others, show mercy tempered with fear, hating even the clothing stained by the flesh.
    Doxology
    (Romans 11:33-36; Romans 16:25-27)
    24Now to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you unblemished in His glorious presence, with great joy— 25to the only God our Savior be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority, through Jesus Christ our Lord, before all time, and now, and for all eternity.
    Amen

    I am thankful this blog does not have this problem; I’m sure Mart would delete them. But as you see here the problem is not new. I hope this helps a bit.

  126. jeff1 says:

    Yes, it does help a great deal in reassuring me that all is well which is what I was needing to hear so thank you for these verses that do just that.

    The problem I have is in misunderstanding Pooh which causes me distress that I don’t need and that is just as much my poor interpretation as it is her comments so there is no ill feeling on my part towards her.

    I have never been good with words not my strong point.

  127. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Jeff, for that last comment. That comment brought peace to my heart.
    “It is well with me”

    This Sunday we will sing “It is well”, the Bethel version.
    Repeating that sentence gives peace: Jesus is with me,
    through it all …. my eyes are on You….

    We are training, disciplining, to have our eyes on Jesus.

    Making judgments

    We all have our strugles, (or struggles?). Listening to someone who is hurting day after day…
    Standing alongside somebody who is struggling, that often takes patience, forbearance.
    I remember that when I left my old fundamentalistic church, I talked and talked.
    For a while I went to a psychologist, someone who had experience with bad church suffering. So she listened to me. She listened and listened, and asked questions.
    But….
    She also told me that when I made judgments about motives of An another persons heart that I crossed a line that I am not supposed to cross.

    Draw a Line around you, Jesus and you are there, when somebody hurts you, you can make a judgment what it has done to you.
    And she always told me to bring my hurt to Jesus, after an hour of listening.

    But…. Do not make a judgment as to the heart of the person, or group of people hurting you, or hurting your country.

    Patience, forbearance…

    This point I want to make too:
    I found out that NOT everybody had the patience, the long suffering to listen to me.

    And that added to the hurt
    ….. unless….
    I did what my mentor had adviced me:
    Go to Jesus.

    Jeff, Go to Jesus with every burden that you sense in your heart.

    I dont mind that you tell over and over again about the violence and the hurt of your country, I ought to take it in prayer to Jesus more! And so fulfilling the command of Gal 6:2

    “Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfil the law of Christ”

    Jesus is the One, the great High Priest, the One who listens to us, Who always intercedes for us.

    We ought to go in our inner room First, that is the lesson we have to learn as a christian,
    We first start leaning on fellow christians, but more and more lean on Jesus, our Savior,

    Jesus, the One Who understands our hearts better than we do ourselves, or our fellow man.

  128. foreverblessed says:

    Therefore since we have a gedateerd high priest who has gone through the heavens,
    Jesus the Son of God,
    let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.
    For we do not have a high priest who is unable to sympathise with our weakness, but we have ONE who has been tempted in every way, just as we are- yet was without sin.
    Let us then approach
    The Throne Of Grace
    With confidence,
    So that we may receive mercy
    and find Grace to help us in our time of need.

    Hebrews 4:14-16

  129. foreverblessed says:

    Steve, while I was posting yesterday, your comment appeared too, I only found out later, not at the time I was posting, in fact I was unable to post for awhile.
    sorry for not reacting to what you said.
    Reacting to what is being said, makes this blog more pleasant to participate in/with.

    May God bless you and Matt and Glenna, in all you do.

  130. SFDBWV says:

    Being human certainly has its problems. Mendel learned and taught us that what we are is passed down to us by our parents.

    Jesus teaches us that we can be born again with a new spirit, but we also learn that that old spirit and the new one are constantly at odds with each other for control of our thoughts and actions.

    Jesus teaches us to simply trust what we don’t know to God, but that old nature in us drives us to want to know everything, including all about God. Which seems an impossible and frustrating task.

    There is no way we can or should ever try and compare our behavior against that of God, as we will always fall short of that unachievable goal.

    If we try, as have countless other generations of “thinkers”, to figure out what life is all about, why we are here, what is my purpose, what happens to me once I die we go around and around in circles in an unattainable search for answers.

    Proverbs and Ecclesiastes tells us it is all useless energy to try and figure it all out, that in trying to is “vanity”.

    Everywhere we go we will meet people who claim to be Christ like (Christian), but their old natural essence comes through and little of a humble sacrificial God is shown at the expense of who they really are.

    God provides us with the ability to discern the difference between the two, as the Holy Spirit always bears witness of Himself.

    When we encounter such people who cause us to “doubt” what the Holy Spirit is revealing to us we are in danger of being misled.

    Don’t be!

    Jesus taught with parables so we might be able to understand. Using His example I will simply say that once you recognize a skunk, don’t let the skunk convince you it is just a black and white cat.

    Trust your instincts, believe God and simplify your life.

    53 degrees again and a very thick heavy fog.

    Steve

  131. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Foreverblessed, you were writing and posting while I was putting together my thoughts.

    Thank you for your blessing for me and my family today.

    Steve

  132. jeff1 says:

    Steve, thank you for giving me such a good laugh as regards a skunk convincing you its a black and white cat.

    I can reassure you I am not convinced as I am much too cautious when listening to what others tell me.

    It comes from being brought up in a very religious country and being misled up the garden path too many times.

    You are such a very wise man and I love your sense of humour.

    God be with you till we meet again;
    By His counsels guide, uphold you,
    With His sheep securely fold you;
    God be with you till we meet again.

    Till we meet, till we meet,
    Till we meet at Jesus’ feet;
    Till we meet, till we meet,
    God be with you till we meet again.

    God be with you till we meet again;
    Neath His wings protecting hide you;
    Daily manna still provide you;
    God be with you till we meet again.

    Till we meet, till we meet,
    Till we meet at Jesus’ feet;
    Till we meet, till we meet,
    God be with you till we meet again.

    God be with you till we meet again;
    With the oil of joy anoint you;
    Sacred ministries appoint you;
    God be with you till we meet again.

    Till we meet, till we meet,
    Till we meet at Jesus’ feet;
    Till we meet, till we meet,
    God be with you till we meet again.

    God be with you till we meet again;
    When life’s perils thick confound you;
    Put His arms unfailing round you;
    God be with you till we meet again.

    Till we meet, till we meet,
    Till we meet at Jesus’ feet;
    Till we meet, till we meet,
    God be with you till we meet again.

    God be with you till we meet again;
    Ended when for you earth’s story,
    Israel’s chariot sweep to glory;
    God be with you till we meet again.

    Till we meet, till we meet,
    Till we meet at Jesus’ feet;
    Till we meet, till we meet,
    God be with you till we meet again.

  133. jeff1 says:

    Thank you, Forever, I sometimes feel I am like a long playing record and you must be tired of listening so it does my heart good for you to say this.

    Beloved’s verses has given me the peace I needed as anger was taking over from the programme I watched and seen how some believed in Jesus yet seen no wrong in killing seeing as it was their enemy.

    You have said to me:

    “But…. Do not make a judgment as to the heart of the person, or group of people hurting you, or hurting your country”.

    Patience, forbearance…

    That is a very difficult ‘ask’ seeing as how this war as been going on for longer than I have been around.

    It is exactly their thinking that makes history repeat itself as they pass their religious beliefs to their children and the cycle of hatred and violence never ends.

    Often I am too angry to go to Jesus and so I just weep instead.

    You have said:

    I dont mind that you tell over and over again about the violence and the hurt of your country, I ought to take it in prayer to Jesus more! And so fulfilling the command of Gal 6:2Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)

    “Carry each other’s burdens, and in this way you will fulfil the law of Christ”

    You don’t know how much it means that you understand enough to carry it with me and so will you take it in prayer to God as I trust your faith better than my own in seeking God’s justice and righteousness for my country above all other. Amen.

  134. Beloved says:

    The Humility of God

    Yes, Gal 6 is rich indeed with humble service toward sinners. Thank you Forever and Viv for the reminder!
    Galatians 6:1–10 (ESV): Bear One Another’s Burdens
    6 Brothers, if anyone is caught in any transgression, you who are spiritual should restore him in a spirit of gentleness. Keep watch on yourself, lest you too be tempted. 2 Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ. 3 For if anyone thinks he is something, when he is nothing, he deceives himself. 4 But let each one test his own work, and then his reason to boast will be in himself alone and not in his neighbor. 5 For each will have to bear his own load.
    6 Let the one who is taught the word share all good things with the one who teaches. 7 Do not be deceived: God is not mocked, for whatever one sows, that will he also reap. 8 For the one who sows to his own flesh will from the flesh reap corruption, but the one who sows to the Spirit will from the Spirit reap eternal life. 9 And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up. 10 So then, as we have opportunity, let us do good to everyone, and especially to those who are of the household of faith.

    Steve, it hurts me when you allude to Pooh being a skunk. There was a time, I have to admit I would have even said the same. Sadly. Yet the more I learn of Christ the less I feel able to denigrate her or anyone, for that matter. I know she is very hard to understand and her ways of communication come from her horrific background, which I get triggered with from time to time. Yet God uses the triggers in my life to remind me of the greatness of His mercy and grace toward me. Yes we need to bear with the “burdens” (sins) of others because we are no better. At the cross all are equal. Beggars before a Holy God. I myself have said some very nasty things about her through the years, and for that I am very sorry and beg Gods forgiveness. If you agree or disagree take it up with our LORD as I am an idiot. Please forgive me.

  135. poohpity says:

    Well Steve just another name you have added to the list of all the others names you have called me over the years. First was a bothersome squirrel that chased the birds from the bird feeders; An Elephant; the devil; over bearing deer that also chased birds away from the seed you put out; many, many others and now a skunk. You have called me everything from your vain imaginations but who I really am. Then your group laughs at it and embraces it as reality. Such kindness I am so touched and I bet God is too! Such a good leader that the group supports and even gives you a pat on the back for the continued ugliness, good job. It is real funny and anyone should feel proud to be such a fine leader to the very thinking and actions that Jesus has taught us to flee from.

  136. poohpity says:

    It would not be so hard to understand me if any of you ever searched the scripture to seek out God. Then you would see that often the things I share comes straight from there, not what I think or from different authors giving their take or from Hollywood or TV shows but right from God’s very word. There are even times when one attributes His word to me saying it when all I was doing was sharing the one thing that has made such a difference in my life, a relationship with God and He gave me the desire to search and seek Him above all else.

  137. poohpity says:

    I do not need the praise of other people or their flattery because I stand firm on who God says I am and what I mean to Him. I will only lead people to Him not to my way of thinking or my opinions of others but to God; who’s love is far greater and purer than anything I have even known and I want people to know how much they mean to HIM and that He has given us a better not bitter way to live with Him and others in this world so that we can be content and at peace while in this flesh. I have not made it there yet but I try to practice His teaching with His help to give my life meaning and purpose in Love.

  138. poohpity says:

    I do know on thing for sure God knows all there is to know about me and the more I learn about Him the more I know there is so much more I do not know about Him but I do know He has revealed a whole lot to those who want to know Him so that we even can have a close personal relationship with Him and can see His goodness and love.

  139. jeff1 says:

    Having read Steve’s post again, I believe he was warning of how if another believer causes you ‘doubt’ then you could be misled and as I see it if I had listened to Pooh I would have been misled but instead Beloved you pointed me to the scripture and enlightened me. So I thank Steve for his good judgement in seeing I was doubting my own judgements and Pooh you did not direct me to scripture to help but tried to dishearten me instead.

    I do not see any reference to you Pooh so maybe it is just your guilty conscience talking.

    Steve said:

    Everywhere we go we will meet people who claim to be Christ like (Christian), but their old natural essence comes through and little of a humble sacrificial God is shown at the expense of who they really are.

    God provides us with the ability to discern the difference between the two, as the Holy Spirit always bears witness of Himself.

    When we encounter such people who cause us to “doubt” what the Holy Spirit is revealing to us we are in danger of being misled.

    Don’t be!

    Jesus taught with parables so we might be able to understand. Using His example I will simply say that once you recognize a skunk, don’t let the skunk convince you it is just a black and white cat.

  140. street says:

    53 But they did not receive Him, because He was traveling toward Jerusalem. 54 When His disciples James and John saw this, they said, “Lord, do You want us to command fire to come down from heaven and consume them?” 55 But He turned and rebuked them, and said, “You do not know what kind of spirit you are of;

    John 6:63
    The Spirit gives life; the flesh counts for nothing. The words I have spoken to you—they are full of the Spirit and life.

  141. street says:

    Zechariah 9:9
    Rejoice greatly, O daughter of Zion! Shout in triumph, O daughter of Jerusalem! Behold, your king is coming to you; He is just and endowed with salvation, Humble, and mounted on a donkey, Even on a colt, the foal of a donkey.

    Isaiah 9:6
    For a child will be born to us, a son will be given to us; And the government will rest on His shoulders; And His name will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God, Eternal Father, Prince of Peace.

    Psalm 18:35
    You have also given me the shield of Your salvation, And Your right hand upholds me; And Your gentleness makes me great.

    Matthew 11:29
    Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me, for I am gentle and humble in heart, and you will find rest for your souls.

    Matthew 16:18
    I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

  142. bratimus says:

    This is what I know, I treat friend or foe the same. I’ll say hi wish people a good day might say a few words about something or other. I’m not to worry about who is a friend or foe, I’ll let God worry about that. In doing this it is how you love your enemy, treat them the same as a friend. I am not a be talker, I try not to talk much unless it is something important to say. I’m fine with being quit and minding my own business.

    In Christ name

    Bratimus

  143. poohpity says:

    Viv, if you think I was trying to dishearten you rather than to encourage you to let go of the bitterness and hate that you feel towards those who differ from you in your country YOU ARE SADLY MISTAKEN!!!!!! and totally wrong!!

  144. street says:

    it’s not so much as the Word of God has failed, but more like the stench of a fly in the ointment.

    yes we all have filthy rags and will be removed and replaced and yes they come with a smell too. paul speaks about removing these from others, but we get into trouble when done without gentleness grace and mercy. one of pauls letters to the corinthians speaks of times we acted and wish we had not. yet God in His mercy saw fit to restore with third letter, we call 2 Cor.

  145. Beloved says:

    I heard that yesterday about how Paul in His 2nd letter to the Corinthians is his letter of positive remarks toward those he chastised earlier. What does it take to move us from A to B? Takes patience, time, grace and humility.

  146. poohpity says:

    street, I have not seen the word of God fail or that referred to as a fly in the ointment but only that Christ is preached and like the word says in the end God will separate the wheat from the chaff and if we try to do it before that time we may pull out the wheat by mistaking it as the chaff. In other words we do not know better than God so let Him do it. There is no third letter of Corinthians.

  147. Beloved says:

    Pray for pearl bubbles Steve and others in the hurricanes way. Weather channel shows terrible conditions.

  148. bubbles says:

    Thank you, but I am way way far inland away from any hurricane.

  149. Beloved says:

    I was thinking of the rising rivers and creeks inland. Glad you are far inland.

  150. foreverblessed says:

    Mart adviced us in a topic earlier on this year:
    When there is a bully, and I got the notion that he meant; when you are being bullied on this blog:

    Just pray: Father, forgive them, for they do no know what they are doing.

    If you have that set of mind then you have the mind of the waiting father, in the parable of the prodical son.
    The father was waiting every day to see when his son would come back. And that when he would return, the father knew that he had come to his senses.

    That we just wait here and know that all this throwing of accusations is futile, the
    I really do appreciate Beloved telling that she is sorry for all her harsh comments.
    W
    Great insight! All though I understood your frustration. As I do understand Jeff’s frustration.

    May God bless us all, May He hold on to us, and make us holy.

    I, for myself, I am training my eyes to look upon Jesus.
    He IS the way, if I

    His Way was gtge way of humility, that is the topic of this week.

    Psalm 40:6
    Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
    but You have prepared a body for me, (Septaguint)

    Jesus was God, and Eternal, living in heaven with God, and yet, He says: God had prepared a body for Him, a body on earth. It is interesting that the lineage of that “body”is carefully written down, from Adam to Abraham, to David to Mary to Jesus

    An earthly body.

    To think about that, it is to big to comprhend. Jesus is willing to lay of all that he had, and enter earth in a body…

  151. foreverblessed says:

    Jeff, thank you, I will pray for your country.
    The same thing has happened in my country, but only 450 years ago.
    When the Reformation started, and the dutch wanted to get rid of the Spanish oppressors, not all wanted to fight against the spanish, because of the roman cathlic faith that they did not want to desert.
    It was in fact also a civil war, the effects of it have lasted until now. The paranoia between the protestants and the cathlics is being slain slowly, now these days.

    But still a long way to go.

    Jesus said: Let they be One, so that the world may see that You sent me.
    What a great task (or what shall I call it, advice, command? prayer) is that??!
    Mindboggling

    John 17:20-24

    20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one, Father, just as you are in me and I am in you. May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me, that they may be one as we are one— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me and have loved them even as you have loved me.

    24 “Father, I want those you have given me to be with me where I am, and to see my glory, the glory you have given me because you loved me before the creation of the world.

  152. jeff1 says:

    Forever, I appreciate your understanding rather than your judgement upon me because I have already been judged by my enemies as an oppressor because I was born British and protestant and there are parts of this country where such admission could cost you your life.

    If I am cautious it is because I have learned to be and if I am cynical it is because I find that people are not to be trusted.

    I had an earthly dad who in his wisdom listened to God while in my foolishness I run with the pack.

    If he were to be that mentality of a man he could look down on me and say “I told you so” but my dad was not a “know it all” but rather believed “God knew it all”.

    He made sound judgements in his lifetime and I now know why.

    I see Steve like my dad and perhaps why I can relate so well to his thinking and his caring nature.

    In Pooh, I find someone very different, as when I explained how watching a programme on the torture and killing of two soldiers had angered and upset me because the english journalist was interviewing a believer in Christ who agreed with it because he said they had no right to be in his country and instead of enlightening me as Beloved did she tried to make me feel guilty for my anger and upset.

    That is not a person I will trust as they have completely misunderstood that my anger is not towards the person but towards the teaching and beliefs that have been fed to them in allowing them to think that willful sin is acceptable in God’s sight.

    If I condone this man’s thinking then I do God an injustice as how does the loved ones of the victims view God if they watch the same programme and see how a believer in Christ justifies the killing of their loved ones.

    There is a time to shake hands with your enemy and a time to call him out.

    In this country we call a spade a spade as it shames the devil.

    It seems that’s not everyone’s cup of tea but for me it keeps my sight from getting blurred when it comes to blame.

  153. SFDBWV says:

    “Res ipsa loquitur”

    “The thing speaks for itself”

    Joyce I feel it not necessary for me to have to explain or defend my comments to you. However because you said they hurt you I will attempt to ease your pain.

    First of all I made no mention of any particular person at all in what I had said to Viv, yet you, and apparently pooh, right away judged that I was alluding to her.

    Why do you suppose that is so?

    Jesus accused false prophets of being wolves (Matthew 7:15 KJV). Does it hurt you that He called them such a thing?

    One of the things in my nature that I have always had is that I don’t like bullies and have always defended those who are preyed upon by such.

    It has defined my life in more ways than perhaps you are able to understand. As you only know a brief portion of it.

    Here in this forum I try to uplift rather than put down and whereas in the past my speaking directly and plainly to pooh concerning her negative posturing I learned that it only made the situation worse so I quit doing that and eventually just quit reading anything she wrote.

    Viv is sensitive and wounded, she is surrounded by negative spirits that torment her. They are entrenched in a culture that continues to influence her fellow countrymen and she has shown remarkable strength and wisdom in recognizing them for what they are.

    She needs friends that love and support her, not people who wrongly judge her for her clear understanding of right and wrong.

    I will continue to give whatever support I can to Viv and any here who have need of it.

    “Res non verba”
    “Action speaks louder than words”

    Cloudy and 58 degrees.

    Steve

  154. jeff1 says:

    Bless you Steve for your care and understanding so well of what I am trying so clumsily to say.

  155. poohpity says:

    Holding grudges doesn’t make you strong; it makes you bitter. Forgiving doesn’t make you weak; it sets you free.–Dave Willis

    Trying to justify, making excuses and blaming others for one’s negative emotions(hate, rage, anger) is just another way of failing to take personal responsibility for what comes out of one’s own heart and mind. In other words living this life in hellish conditions is everyone else’s fault when we are given a new way of life that sets us free from the influence of others. It is so easy to recognize the negative influence of another and fail so miserably to see that the person looking and blaming others is guilty of the very same things themselves.

    It seems when one person lives everyday with bitterness, anger and rage in their own home by making excuses and justifying it rather than teaching a better way they will also support others who do the same.

  156. poohpity says:

    Is it loving to tell a person to keep banging their head against the wall because you have every right to so even if one knows the damage that will follow?

    Jesus quoted this golden rule as an extension of our love for God: “The most important [commandment] . . . [is to] love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength. The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself’ ” By: Alyson Kieda ODB

  157. Beloved says:

    Pooh, who are you preaching to? Just wondering.

  158. poohpity says:

    Isn’t it something God teaches all His children; well those who follow Him and are open to listening and learning.

    Beloved, I just wanted you to know you were right in knowing who Steve was applying the skunk to even tho he denies it. Goes to show ya don’t it.

  159. Beloved says:

    We all know what God teaches but to pointedly and continuously talk about an issue that causes someone to turn from God rather than to Him is wrong. Evil. But, I believe God is stronger and knows just how to reach a person with His truth. He often uses the humble and weak rather than the bold and strong. We saw that at the cross. Paul talks about that also. Be like Jesus and Paul.

  160. Beloved says:

    Beloved, I just wanted you to know you were right in knowing who Steve was applying the skunk to even tho he denies it. Goes to show ya don’t it.

    Drop it Pooh. Just drop it. When you are perfect someone might listen.

  161. poohpity says:

    NO we all do not know what God teaches or else there would be no need to have people teach us. Then we would stop going to church, no bible studies, no listening to worship music and no reading the bible.

    Beloved if you wanted it dropped then why did you bring it up again with the addition of venom and bossiness to fit in with the gang. I know I will never be perfect but that does not stop me from doing what God has called me to do, share His word. People who really want to know God will listen and those who don’t won’t and on here there are more who could careless what God teaches than those who do care. God uses people who are not perfect to accomplish His will that is shown in history.

  162. Beloved says:

    If that is your hypothesis than why do you continue to preach here on BTA? Could it be to prove something for yourself- your way of uplifting yourself? To prove you are “better” than most . Shame on you for using the word of God for selfish promotion IF that is your plan. The Pharisees preached out of self promotion. The Holy Spirit illuminates His voice. If people do not listen to you it’s not about the people, it just proves it’s about God and what He is saying and not you. It is God who keeps us loving and faithful to Him- with joy! See Philippians.

  163. poohpity says:

    Thank you for being such a kind neighbor and sharing all the faults that you think I have as usual. Why do I continue to share God’s word because I know it does not return void. Isaiah 55:11 NLT

  164. Beloved says:

    You are welcome! Isaiah 55:11, yes, tell that to all those that have been mislead and wounded by false interpretations of Gods word. It says God not you, Pooh. Jesus is the word and He is the One we represent if we are rightly dividing His word and not using it to hurt, kill even destroy people. Remember about fruit? Lashing back at people who in love try to turn your heart toward Godly thinking and character shows a blatant disrespect for the things of God. You may as well be reading a recipe book to others for all the spiritual goodness it brings. Got any good cookie recipes? I’m looking for a good pumpkin cookie with nuts and maple flavoring added.

  165. Beloved says:

    I have to go now, talk to you later.

  166. jeff1 says:

    Be still, my child, be still.
    You are mine. I am yours. I am with you.
    Be still, my child, be still.
    Why your grasping, your wanting, your worry?

    No fear and no pride.
    All you need I provide.
    Be content, and

    Be still, my child, be still.
    Simply rest. You are loved. I am watching.
    Be still, my child, be still.
    I am here. You can sleep. I will hold you.

    No fear by my side.
    All you need I provide.
    Be content, and

    Be still, my child, be still.
    You are mine. I am yours. I am with you.
    Be still.
    Be still.
    Be still.

  167. Beloved says:

    Thanks for that Steve. I did not know you do not read her posts; I guess you were reacting to Viviens responses so now it makes sense. It’s so easy to assume things here, I confess I do it probably too often. The negativity gets to me too… and yes it also bothers me when the weak are picked on. As far as the use of animal names I know it’s quite common as folk speak goes. It reminds me of a time when my parents weren’t speaking to me and I sent them a notecard quite innocently with a picture of a cute baby skunk playing in a bush on it. The note was to tell them I had forgiven them for how they had abused me all my childhood and that God loved them. (At the time I was a prisoner of my husband and not allowed out of the house but once every two weeks to get groceries and it was all I had for stationary, even having to beg him for a stamp). Well, I heard from a sibling my dad said “Joyce thinks I’m a skunk”!
    It took many more years for God to soften his heart but praise God it was accomplished, not through me but through a pastors wife, the ONLY friend my dad allowed my mother to have for many many years. Oh yes God has His ways, as you know. Sorry if I seemed judgmental I did not mean to denigrate your character, not at all. I was wrong and I am sorry. I knew God would faithfully set me straight, He loves me that much!

  168. poohpity says:

    Beloved do you really believe that Steve does not read what I write when his comments directly addresses them or is not referring to me when he starts the name calling? I own a bridge in London I am trying to sell, you interested? bahahbhbhaaa

  169. Beloved says:

    I believe he has a lot more history with you than I do so yes, I believe what he says. You have seen him face to face, I only know what I read here. According to his track record here I do trust him.

  170. Beloved says:

    Oh I could be wrong about the face to face.

  171. Beloved says:

    Pooh, what has God done for you today, how has He blessed you?

  172. jeff1 says:

    Your judgement is good Beloved, you pointed me to the scripture because you genuinely wanted to reassure me which shows the Spirit of God and not of his enemy.

    She shows no concern for victims of Satan and tries to make you feel guilty for weaknesses that we all struggle with so to make you feel as bad as Satan.

    After 30 years at war with my enemy I know all too well the tactics so don’t be fooled by her and give her a wide berth as does Steve in his great wisdom.

    Jesus is our best friend but here in earth we all need genuine friends who help us on our journey and you should trust Steve and your own discernment because it is good.

    Everybody needs a little help sometime
    No one stands alone
    Makes no difference if you’re just a child like me
    Or a king upon a throne
    For there are no exceptions
    We all stand in the line
    Everybody needs a friend
    Let me tell you of mine
    ——-

    CHORUS:
    He’s my forever friend
    My leave-me-never friend
    From darkest night to rainbow’s end
    He’s my forever friend
    ——-
    Even when I turn away He cares for me
    His love no one can shake
    Even as I walk away He’s by my side
    With every breath I take
    And sometimes I forget Him
    My halo fails to shine
    Sometimes I’m not His friend
    But He is always mine

  173. jeff1 says:

    My mum used to say the devil looks after his own and in this world that is very true but I must never forget that we worship the resurrected Christ.

    When there are obstacles and suffering in my life that can seem like a far off dream but no one can change the truth of the Gospel and that is what I focus on when life is getting me down that Jesus is sovereign.

    I can loose many battles but Jesus already has the victory.

    Joshua Fit the Battle of Jericho

    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    Jericho Jericho
    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    And the walls come tumbling down

    God knows that
    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    Jericho Jericho
    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    And the walls come tumbling down

    Good morning Sister Mary
    Good morning brother john
    Well I wanna stop and talk with you
    Wanna tell you how I come along

    I know you’ve heard about Joshua
    He was the son of nun
    He never stopped his work until
    Until the work was done

    God knows that
    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    Jericho Jericho
    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    And the walls come tumbling down

    You may talk about your men of Gideon
    You may brag about your men of Saul
    There’s none like good old Joshua
    At the battle of Jericho

    Up to the walls of Jericho
    He marched with spear in hand
    Go blow them ram horns, Joshua cried
    ’cause the battle is in my hands

    God knows that
    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    Jericho Jericho
    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    And the walls come tumbling down

    You may talk about your men of Gideon
    You may brag about your king of Saul
    There none like Joshua
    At the battle of Jericho

    They tell me, great god that Joshua’s spear
    Was well nigh twelve feet long
    And upon his hip was a double edged sword
    And his mouth was a gospel horn

    Yet bold and brave he stood
    Salvation in his hand
    Go blow them ram horns Joshua cried
    ’cause the devil can’t do you no harm

    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    Jericho Jericho
    Joshua fit the battle of Jericho
    And the walls come tumbling down

    Up to the walls of Jericho
    He marched with spear in hand
    Go blow them ram horns, Joshua cried
    ’cause the battle is in my hands

    Then the lamb ram sheep horns began to blow
    The trumpets began to sound
    Old Joshua shouted glory
    And the walls came tumblin’ down

    God knows that
    Joshua fit the battle of jericho
    Jericho jericho
    Joshua fit the battle of jericho
    And the walls come tumbling down

    Down, down, down, down, down
    Tumblin’ down

  174. Beloved says:

    The Humility of man

    Job42
    1 Then Job replied to the LORD: 2 “I know that you can do all things; no purpose of yours can be thwarted. 3 You asked, ‘Who is this that obscures my plans without knowledge?’ Surely I spoke of things I did not understand, things too wonderful for me to know. 4 “You said, ‘Listen now, and I will speak; I will question you, and you shall answer me.’ 5 My ears had heard of you but now my eyes have seen you. 6 Therefore I despise myself and repent in dust and ashes.”

  175. jeff1 says:

    I have difficulty understanding Job as I don’t believe God wants me to despise myself. I do believe He wants me to see that I cannot understand His sovereignty and therefor should accept His judgements are final.

    I concern myself with matters that God says I should not because it is what disrupts my peace.

    I think I need to defend God’s honour because He doesn’t seem to defend His own.

    He gently rebukes me for my error and I know all is well with my soul.

  176. jeff1 says:

    It is well, it is well, with my soul.

    Though Satan should buffet, though trials should come,
    Let this blest assurance control,
    That Christ has regarded my helpless estate,
    And hath shed His own blood for my soul.

    My sin, oh, the bliss of this glorious thought!
    My sin, not in part but the whole,
    Is nailed to the cross, and I bear it no more,
    Praise the Lord, praise the Lord, O my soul!

    For me, be it Christ, be it Christ hence to live:
    If Jordan above me shall roll,
    No pang shall be mine, for in death as in life,
    Thou wilt whisper Thy peace to my soul.

    But Lord, ’tis for Thee, for Thy coming we wait,
    The sky, not the grave, is our goal;
    Oh, trump of the angel! Oh, voice of the Lord!
    Blessed hope, blessed rest of my soul.

    And Lord, haste the day when the faith shall be sight,
    The clouds be rolled back as a scroll;
    The trump shall resound, and the Lord shall descend,
    “Even so, it is well with my soul”.

  177. poohpity says:

    The humility of God. He does not force His ways on anyone and that includes when He tells us to forgive as He has forgiven us. He knows mankind and knows that holding unforgiveness in our hearts injures our minds and our emotion and since He wants what is only good for us because He is a loving God.

    So anyone who does not encourage us to forgive as God has taught us to do is not looking out for our welfare but wants us to hold tight to the harm it causes when we don’t.

    Forgiveness is NOT saying that what has happened is right or good and often what happened is evil but forgiveness means we are living out the Gospel and following the example of Christ. We are not letting anyone get by with anything we are just putting it in the hands of God to deal with because when we act on unforgiveness we only harm our relationship with God and cause harm to ourselves.

    So anyone who encourages us to hold on to bitterness, anger, rage and hate and justifies it or if that person actually promotes others to think ill of someone else, THAT IS NOT LOVING nor is it an example of what Jesus has taught us. Isn’t the whole point of being a Christ follower is to follow the example that Jesus gave us?

  178. poohpity says:

    Last night I prayed; “God please show them the same amount of mercy and grace that they have shown me” but God prompted me to change that prayer to; “God please show them the same amount of mercy and grace you have shown me and bless them with a closer relationship with You.”. It is in the precious name of Jesus that I pray, Amen.

  179. poohpity says:

    Who could have imagined a God who would have considered it his honor— to humble himself to the pain, nakedness, and public scorn it took— to show how far he would go to put our interests ahead of his own.

    He forgave us when we did not deserve it.

  180. street says:

    I have difficulty understanding Job as I don’t believe God wants me to despise myself.

    i think it has more to do with loving God above self. thinking about the requirements of being a disciple.

    Jesus paying my ransom to free me from sin of self. given new life in a new Spirit. mind, renewed each day till the body of corruption is done away with.

    certainly any good found in me did not originate with me.

    paul spoke of a thorn in the flesh, God spoke of grace.

  181. jeff1 says:

    Yes, discipleship is strict as I see now it has to be.

    Obedience is God’s requirement because it changes me from the inside out.

    I need to be seeking change or I miss God’s intention.

    How patient God is in waiting and sets me wondering whose love is greater “His for me” or “mine for Him”.

    O love that will not let me go
    I rest my weary soul in thee
    I give thee back the life I owe
    That in thine ocean depths its flow
    My richer, fuller be

    O light that followest all my way
    I yield my flickering torch to thee
    My heart restores its borrowed ray
    That in thy sunshines glow its day
    May brighter, fairer be

    O joy you seek me through the pain
    I cannot close my heart to thee
    I trace the rainbow through the rain
    And feel the promise is not vain
    Then morn shall tearless be

  182. SFDBWV says:

    Remembering the shortest verse in Scripture (“Jesus wept”) I am taken that God shares with us that some emotion that causes us to weep. To mourn, to feel loss.

    In listening to the types of music I do on “YouTube” I enjoy reading the comments by people from all over the world relative to the song, the singer, or the subject matter.

    It is sad that there are so many hurting people everywhere. And when I say hurting I mean sad and mournful. Many say that the music brings with it the memory of someone and they too weep.

    Some say they are angry at death and why it seems so unfair in its choices.

    Last evening Glenna learned from her older sister that one of her nieces has “Huntington’s disease”. Leslie’s father had the same ailment and over time died from it as there is no cure.

    Leslie had just finished a long bout with breast cancer and had overcome it, her husband had a stroke s few years ago and needs her to help care for him.

    They had no children as a choice because she knew that her father’s ailment was hereditary and did not want to pass it along to children.

    Right now Leslie is angry and says, what was the use in her battle with cancer or trying to live “right”? She is just going to drink and smoke and cuss all she wants, through to the end. She is in here early 50’s.

    For those not familiar with the ailment, she will lose control of her motor nerves, speech will become difficult, she will lose her memory not be able to walk and over time die in some nursing home.

    So she is hurt and angry.

    Caring for Matthew over these past 20 years has taught me that with disappointment, pain and frustration comes anger.

    Interesting also that anger seems to be another emotion God has shared with us.

    Each phase of life’s losses goes through a course of reaction and the first one seems to be disappointment followed by anger. Then acceptance.

    I have learned to give people their time to walk through their own valleys and places of darkness with their struggle being between them and God. I will hold a hand, give a hug, and offer myself in whatever way they may need, I may hand them a Bible if they don’t have one, but I won’t preach to them, only offer to suffer with them.

    God will say to them whatever, however, and whenever it is they need to hear.

    It seems to me that the ability to be humble comes from two different bases.

    One accepting total defeat the other being in a place above being defeated at all. In such a position you can afford to be humble.

    Job’s friends get a lot of criticism, but at least they had the good sense to remain silent and stay with their friend for a week before giving advice.

    Well this has taken me all morning to write along with the struggles of life and even some mowing of the grass.

    I have another story concerning mowing, but I will share that another time.

    Praying that all of you experience the comfort of the Holy Spirit today and peace in you being.

    Steve

  183. jeff1 says:

    There is no doubt that this is a suffering world and some seem to suffer more than others and it happens to us all whatever our beliefs.

    In truth most of my family do not believe in God because of the suffering they have seen in this world.

    They cannot reconcile a loving God with a suffering world.

    If I had not struggled with the same I would not understand their lapse.

    That my own faith is in tact I see the work of God rather than any great achievement on my part.

    In my sufferings I have seen the need to run to God whereas just as many people find they run from Him and so while I see my faith as a blessing it is not so for others.

    In my humanness when difficulties arise I feel the same disappointment, hurt, frustration and anger that non believers do.

    I just deal with it differently and so God works for me.

    When God said in this world we will have tribulation He certainly meant it as who does not have.

    That affects people differently depending on their beliefs and so we see a complex and needy world that we are here to serve doing our best and allowing God to do the rest.

    When I am feeling deflated I remind myself how Jesus asked:

    Luke:22:42″Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours be done.”

    Also friends encourage, comfort or remain silent in helping me through.

    I am thankful for their discernment in seeing what is right for me when often I cannot see.

    I find when I leave things in God’s hands I find peace in not understanding and that may sound topsy turvy but it is my experience.

  184. Beloved says:

    Hello all, I had to share a dream I had last night. Very very realistic and unusual but I dreamed I was face to face with a large wolf and tried to feed it very carefully but it growled menacingly at me two times and knew it was not a good idea. I can’t get over how big and realistic it was! Then I woke up. I think I need to quit being “nice” and enabling which is very hard for me. But if Jesus is telling me to I will obey as His will is best as you talked about Viv. Humility requires obedience. His ways are so different from ours. For the past few weeks the H.S. has been prompting me to stop being so helpful with my neighbors. How can something good be bad? My broken mind doesn’t get it, but I’ll just trust God as usual for something even better! Hard to imagine, like thinking about Life after this life as we get a peek from time to time what the Kingdom rules are all about. Completely different atmosphere. Non cerebral. Easy? Easy is hard sometimes isn’t it. Whooooo, baaaaa.

  185. Beloved says:

    I think I will leave it in God’s hands as you mentioned Viv.

  186. jeff1 says:

    It’s certainly is Beloved as God wants me to get out of His way more often than I understand.

    You referring me to the biblical verses on wilful sin enlightened me to getting in God’s way.

    It’s a fine line when it comes to playing God and I am thankful to have had a dad who knew how to avoid it.

    I have learned from his example that God requires obedience and not knowledge when it comes to getting to know His ways because knowledge will cause discord where obedience will bring humility.

    Clothe me in humility,
    Loving Lord, I pray.
    You who’ve given all I am,
    Take this pride away.
    Free my thoughts to thankfulness,
    And clothe me in Your praise.
    Free my thoughts to thankfulness,
    And clothe me, Lord,
    Clothe me in Your praise.

    Clothe me in humility;
    Help me not to judge.
    You would understand them, Lord.
    You would lift them up.
    Let me speak as You would speak,
    And clothe me in Your love.
    Let me speak as You would speak,
    And clothe me, Lord,
    Clothe me in Your love.

    Clothe me in humility
    With this simple truth:
    You are every breath I breathe;
    You alone are good.
    Every moment come in love
    And clothe me, Lord, in You.
    Every moment come in love
    And clothe me, Lord,
    Clothe me, Lord, in You.

  187. SFDBWV says:

    In life I was given the ability to be creative. To build, to repair, to solve and as an added bonus the confidence to do so.

    God so loved me and knew the life in front of me He blessed me with a dream when I was only about 12 or 13. In the dream He showed me of the rough and difficult road that lay ahead of me, but told me plainly that I would make it, I would get to my destination of being there in heaven with Him.

    When much older in another dream He explained why all of the unpleasant and hurtful occasions of my life occurred, without allowing me to remember them.

    You might ask why would God, the Creator of the universe, the Author of life, the God of all creation would bother to take the time to aid or explain anything to me.

    I believe, because that is who God is. So big, yet so humble as to come to me one on one and assist me along my life.

    I am no more special than any of you. I am certain that one on one He also aids and assists each one of you as your needs are answered.

    Having reached a place in life where I can’t fix the things I want to and am left feeling frustrated for it, I am reminded of both dreams and how God has carried me all these years and will continue to through to the end.

    Whereas I needed special help, some of you may not have needed such an assist as I have.

    My prayer for all of you today is that God meets all of your needs, especially to strengthen your faith.

    Steve

  188. Beloved says:

    Spurgeon
    From me comes your fruit.

    Hosea 14:8
    Our fruit comes from God as a result of our union with Him. The fruit of the branch is directly traceable to the root. Sever the connection, the branch dies, and no fruit is produced. By virtue of our union with Christ we bring forth fruit. Every bunch of grapes has been first in the root; it has passed through the stem and flowed through the sap vessels and fashioned itself externally into fruit. But it was first in the stem; so also every good work is first in Christ, and then it is brought forth in us. Christian, treasure this precious union with Christ, for it must be the source of all the fruitfulness that you can ever hope to know. If you were not joined to Jesus Christ, you would be a fruitless branch indeed.

    Our fruit comes from God as to spiritual providence. When the rain falls from heaven, when the clouds look down from on high and are about to distill their liquid treasure, when the bright sun swells the berries in the cluster, each heavenly benefit may whisper to the tree and say, “From me comes your fruit.” The fruit owes much to the root-that is essential to fruitfulness-but it also owes a great deal to external influences. How much we owe to God’s gracious providence, by which He provides us constantly with quickening, teaching, consolation, strength, or whatever else we need. To this we owe all of our usefulness or virtue.

    Our fruit comes from God as to skillful gardening. The gardener’s sharp-edged knife promotes the fruitfulness of the tree by thinning the clusters and by cutting off superfluous shoots. So is it, Christian, with the pruning that the Lord does to you. “My Father is the vine dresser. Every branch of mine that does not bear fruit he takes away; and every branch that does bear fruit he prunes, that it may bear more fruit.”1 Since God is the author of our spiritual graces, let us give Him all the glory for our salvation.

    1) John 15:1-2

  189. poohpity says:

    God gives special gifts to serve for the growth of the Kingdom of God(bearing fruit)! Does one use those gifts for that or for personal gain and exaltation?

  190. Beloved says:

    I guess that’s between you and God, Pooh.

  191. bratimus says:

    The wolf invading the flock, what we are to watch out for.

    There was a discussion the other day some had about a preacher at a community church. Was he feeding the flock or just feeding themselves. I’ve seen it and heard of it other places also, the wolves that invade the flock or the church just to feed themselves. Is there a lack of true tenders of the flock.

    Interesting dream beloved

    If I find the lost and stare children of God where would I send them to be tended to and feed the true words of God.

    In Christ name

    Bratimus

  192. Beloved says:

    Love is patient and kind, but it does not condone bad behavior. We are to be wise as serpents ( thinking of the Serpent who lied about what God really said in the Garden) and gentle as doves (thinking of Jesus humiliation at the cross). Knowing God and His mind is the way to tell wolves from sheep- wheat from tares etc. I think we need not be afraid to move away from tares (unfruitful weeds) and wolves that only growl and glare. Leave them to God and turn away from them- let God have ‘em. Gods patience with evil is so many can come to Him, His elect!

  193. Beloved says:

    I’m reminded of the tares in my own mind I must avoid at all costs, even my pride.

  194. jeff1 says:

    It is good to let go and let God when I have little understanding of what I am up against.

    My friend once went of on her own to tackle a demon spirit and she came of the worst and vowed not to do it again.

    God has boundaries for our safety and it is wise to consider them otherwise I suffer the consequences for not.

    Standing on the promises of Christ my King,
    Through eternal ages let His praises ring,
    Glory in the highest, I will shout and sing,
    Standing on the promises of God.
    Standing, standing,
    Standing on the promises of God my Savior;
    Standing, standing,
    I’m standing on the promises of God.
    2
    Standing on the promises that cannot fail,
    When the howling storms of doubt and fear assail,
    By the living Word of God I shall prevail,
    Standing on the promises of God.
    3
    Standing on the promises I now can see
    Perfect, present cleansing in the blood for me;
    Standing in the liberty where Christ makes free,
    Standing on the promises of God.
    4
    Standing on the promises of Christ the Lord,
    Bound to Him eternally by love’s strong cord,
    Overcoming daily with the Spirit’s sword,
    Standing on the promises of God.
    5
    Standing on the promises I shall not fall,
    List’ning every moment to the Spirit’s call.
    Resting in my Savior as my All in all,
    Standing on the promises of God.

  195. narrowpathseeker says:

    Good Morning Friends… I was surprised to find the link to this site pop up this morning. I had deleted easy access to avoid coming here. Subjecting myself to the one that insists on feigning love and respect for the participants here while attempting to destroy them was more than I could take.

    It’s been almost two years since I have been back here and while the first thing I noticed was a change in format(I can barely read the small print in the comments off to the side) the second thing was that nothing has changed! I think I have changed just a little, but I need to change a whole lot more to understand WHY nothing has changed here but the format.
    Before I share my attempt at a “do you see what I see” mentality, please let me acknowledge that I am painfully aware of my sin condition. I can see myself as clearly as I see others…I confess it, I am remorseful, I pray to be delivered from it daily, and I aim to rise above it. Howbeit, because I see and confess my offenses does not excuse others for THEIR offenses any more than pointing out theirs, excuses mine. One of my prayers that He seems to be answering in very small stages is… “Lord, I don’t want to be evil, selfish, and all that is displeasing to You… I want to love You, honor You, obey You, please You and praise You but I can’t do that in my own power …please transform me..ever so gently… please take me by the hand like a small child and speak to me clearly for you know that sometimes I just don’t understand.. then please give me the strength, courage and provisions to obey.”

    A few months back I received a newsletter and some of what it contained gave me flashbacks of the same matter here at BTA. It was a request for prayer for Donald Trump and I was ok with that…we are Directed to pray for our leaders as well as our enemies…so I was on board up until the point that it made him out to be a victim… it said that he was the most hated president in history(maybe it said recent history..don’t remember) and that his enemies are trying to destroy him!!! This letter CLAIMED to be supported by 252 leading Christian leaders!! The first thing I thought was, “have these Christian leaders ever considered,’God will NOT be mocked, man WILL reap what he sows’?! Moreover, as Christians why were they excusing, thus seemingly condoning behavior that openly, proudly, and unremorsefully possesses all the attributes of satan. Why are they allowing him to think that lying, cheating, arrogance, egomania, rebel rousing, hate, and such OK for a Christian? AND WHY when Donald Trump was running hateful ads to destroy Barack Obama and his family did I not receive a prayer request for Obama… do they actually believe that it is ok if you support the right political party.. OK and finally, how many skeptics are going to have any desire to come to Jesus when “Christian” leaders are condoning and/or cheering on, one proud of being nasty and cruel and a liar?

    OK… the similarities here are simply this: The one here that sows hatred, division, and deceit while accusing others of this behavior, and then crying victim when called out on it…is just like the Trump matter. And just recently while outright wrong about Dorian hitting Alabama..he REFUSED to admit and like a spoiled brat, altered the chart to include Alabama with a magic marker and double downed on dumb and deceit…for years the one here has lied, denied, and cried victim when called out. While we all have the ability to hate, whether it is active or lies dormant, it is not something to be PROUD OF!! God is Love …satan is hate… we need to resist the hate. Hate is hate…it doesn’t matter how it is served or what it is served in… Pooh your hate is not exonerated because you point it out in me or anyone else nor is it exonerated because you call it love and respect Your only choice is stop DENYING what you do…we are ALL sinners but recognition is half the battle. Time is running out. Now you can call this hate but I didn’t come back after two years to express hate to you…I am hoping that the Lord opens your eyes and unclogs your ears. Lord have mercy on us all.

  196. foreverblessed says:

    Dear narrowpathseeker, it is good to hear from you again!
    This site is having problems, and Mart is doing this now on his own, so he himself has to find somebody to see what went wrong. More things go wrong, slowly desintegrating it seems.

    Thanks for your analysis about praying for Trump!
    Indeed, he is not a victim. He sows what he reaps.
    As an outsider I found it very very hard that a man who lies and lies, and with lies has thrown aside fellow republicans, (and one lie about a mother of one candidate I found very uneasy). And the more he lied, the more popular he got. That is the troublesome thing about it. Max Lucado had some remarks (about women unfriendly talk), but he was attacked because of that. It is frightening to the least.
    The US needs a lot of prayer, not only the president. The leading country of the world. It has impact on the whole world.

    How God dealt with Jacob, and what it has to do with today:
    Today we had a sermon about Jacob and Esau. You know, Jacob was a pretty bad liar too! And God did not reprove him at all, but said another blessing, in Genesis 28:13-15
    “I am the Lord, the God of your father Abraham and the God of Isaac. I will give you and your descendants the land on which you are lying. 14 Your descendants will be like the dust of the earth, and you will spread out to the west and to the east, to the north and to the south. All peoples on earth will be blessed through you and your offspring.[d] 15 I am with you and will watch over you wherever you go, and I will bring you back to this land. I will not leave you until I have done what I have promised you.”

    What about that??! If Esau would have heard that, would he not say to God: Why do you not say anything about Jacob? Look this man is a liar and he just gets away with it?

    But indeed God in not mocked:
    Now in hindsight, we see that God did not have to say anything about it, God knew that Jacob was on his way to Laban.
    Jacob was sent on a training mission, God was going Jacob the error of his ways.
    And it would take another 20 years.
    Genesis 32:9-11
    A really Jacob with great humility appears.

    So in this case, I have come a few years ago to the conclusion, that I have to leave it in God’s hands:
    With God everything is possible.

    I hope you can come to the same conclusion:
    Let Go and let God!

    The God of Jacob!
    The God who trained Jacob, and had him come to his senses, Jacob turned into a really meek man.
    A man who saw that he needed God, that he could not manipulate and twist.
    Just as the Holy SPirit is guiding us, teaching us, training and disciplining us.

    God will work this out! Really He will, and I praise His ways with us.

    In the mean time we can pray for them.
    Oswald Chambers talks a lot about prayer.

    “God forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”

    May God bless you, and give you peace!

  197. Regina says:

    Good Evening, All
    Have SO enjoyed reading the comments on this blog topic (even though some/most were off topic). narrow and forever, sadly, I have to agree with what you said about the current President of the U.S. I think he has some serious character flaws. narrow, think your comment, re: Pres. Trump, was very well said. Steve, was thinking about your niece’s “valley of the shadow…” with Huntington’s disease, her anger and her desire to give up and indulge in an ungodly lifestyle. Now, thinking about Job’s attitude when he was going through major adversity… he refused to “curse God and die”. His thoughts… “though HE slay me yet will I trust Him” were aligned with his actions… he sat in sackcloth and ashes and refused to say anything negative about his God. Don’t get me wrong, I can definitely sympathize with how she’s feeling, but if I had to choose… I’d rather die praising and worshiping God than praising and worshiping the devil.

    “My Utmost for His…” was *awesome* today. Gonna share it here:

    “Do it Yourself” (Oswald Chambers)

    …casting down arguments and every high thing that exalts itself against the knowledge of God… —2 Corinthians 10:5

    Determinedly Demolish Some Things. Deliverance from sin is not the same as deliverance from human nature. There are things in human nature, such as prejudices, that the saint can only destroy through sheer neglect. But there are other things that have to be destroyed through violence, that is, through God’s divine strength imparted by His Spirit. There are some things over which we are not to fight, but only to “stand still, and see the salvation of the Lord…” (see Exodus 14:13). But every theory or thought that raises itself up as a fortified barrier “against the knowledge of God” is to be determinedly demolished by drawing on God’s power, not through human effort or by compromise (see 2 Corinthians 10:4).

    It is only when God has transformed our nature and we have entered into the experience of sanctification that the fight begins. The warfare is not against sin; we can never fight against sin— Jesus Christ conquered that in His redemption of us. The conflict is waged over turning our natural life into a spiritual life. This is never done easily, nor does God intend that it be so. It is accomplished only through a series of moral choices. God does not make us holy in the sense that He makes our character holy. He makes us holy in the sense that He has made us innocent before Him. And then we have to turn that innocence into holy character through the moral choices we make. These choices are continually opposed and hostile to the things of our natural life which have become so deeply entrenched— the very things that raise themselves up as fortified barriers “against the knowledge of God.” We can either turn back, making ourselves of no value to the kingdom of God, or we can determinedly demolish these things, allowing Jesus to bring another son to glory (see Hebrews 2:10).

    The great point of Abraham’s faith in God was that he was prepared to do anything for God. ~Not Knowing Whither

    91 degrees and clear in my neck of the woods… I would like to start a simple food blog along with our weather blog, so I ate a veggie sandwich and Ruffles potato chips for dinner tonight.

    Love to all,
    Regina

  198. poohpity says:

    narrow, sadly as uninformed as you are about Pres Trump so you are forgetting that it has not been two years since you have been on here either. Which shows totally the condition of your credibility but saying that also shows how well you fit in with the gang where truth is no where to be found in most the conversations on here.

    I am going to leave but I know now there will be NO one who will ever discuss any of Mart’s topics any more, as if that were ever a concern. Also with the same biases as the news stations you listen to it is the same with those who comment on here. Totally uninformed not only about the topics but it seems with most of what is happening around you in the USA by only listening to people who are biased but never searching for facts but propaganda and brainwashing the left media which is totally representative of most of the thinking that appears on here. You are and have been manipulated into believing lies.

    God bless you guys and I hope you will be able to one day understand GRACE.

  199. Beloved says:

    Accept each day as it comes to you. By that, I mean not only the circumstances of your day but also the condition of your body. Your assignment is to trust me absolutely, resting in my sovereignty and faithfulness.
    Psalm 42:5.
    2 Corinthians 13:4
    Jeremiah 31:25

    Jesus Calling devotional

  200. foreverblessed says:

    That’s right, Rest in the Lord
    Whatever

    THat Utmost was very impressing, thanks Regina.
    Steve, I do pray withh you for that woman.
    With God all things are possible.
    BUt we can pray earnestly, with all our heart for somebody who is aching.

    he bible reading of the Spurgeon article you gave Beloved is;
    Hosea 14:8

    But here is all of Hosea

    Return, Israel, to the Lord your God.
    Your sins have been your downfall!
    2
    Take words with you
    and return to the Lord.
    Say to him:
    “Forgive all our sins
    and receive us graciously,
    that we may offer the fruit of our lips.[b]
    3
    Assyria cannot save us;
    we will not mount warhorses.
    We will never again say ‘Our gods’
    to what our own hands have made,
    for in you the fatherless find compassion.”

    4
    “I will heal their waywardness
    and love them freely,
    for my anger has turned away from them.
    5
    I will be like the dew to Israel;
    he will blossom like a lily.
    Like a cedar of Lebanon
    he will send down his roots;
    6
    his young shoots will grow.
    His splendor will be like an olive tree,
    his fragrance like a cedar of Lebanon.
    7
    People will dwell again in his shade;
    they will flourish like the grain,
    they will blossom like the vine—
    Israel’s fame will be like the wine of Lebanon.
    8
    Ephraim, what more have I[c] to do with idols?
    I will answer him and care for him.
    I am like a flourishing juniper;
    your fruitfulness comes from me.”

    9
    Who is wise? Let them realize these things.
    Who is discerning? Let them understand.
    The ways of the Lord are right;
    the righteous walk in them,
    but the rebellious stumble in them.

    “Your fruitfulness comes from Me”

    Together with John 15:1-2

    I pray for Pooh too.
    I do not understand what is happening to her. She is accusing this “gang” of things she does herself. I do not understand her struggle. But God does.
    I can pray, pray for her: Please do not let her out of Your precious hands.
    Oh God, You are the God of Jacob, You got Your way with Jacob, see how he turned into a beautiful humble man, under Your care. You did not condone the lies, the manipulation, but You took care of him, and he came to his senses.
    You are like the Father in the prodical son, You wait, to see when they return, and you are happy, and make a feast.
    Let me be like that, looking forward, looking down the path, when will Trump come, lowly minded and meek.

    It is getting harder and harder to read all here.
    So I copied and pasted it in adocument and enlarge the letters.

    I seriously advice everybody to have people closer to pray with to talk with christian stuff.

    When I read Spurgeon I am always so uplifted, he talks about Christ, Jesus.

    And I would like to be more like that,
    Talking about how wonderful our life is in Him, and not be disturbed about the twisting of words, and the lies.
    Just praying over them:
    Father, let them be like the prodical son. Let them come to their senses.

    Our fruitfulness comes from Him.
    Everything we bear in fruit,in patience in peace, in love, was first in Jesus.

    Ohhh I could ask for much more love, and peace, rest in Him.
    And give all my burdens to Him more, and leave it with Him. The leaving it with Him is so hard, a struggle, but as long as we do not give up.

    ANd besides Jeff, it is good to forgive, meaning to let go and let God, FOr God is not mocked, He will work on everybody, nobody who is violent and a liar will enter the Kingdom, he will first be cleaned and washed in the blood of Jesus.
    In this world they get away with it.
    But not in the next.

    regina, sorry , that the topic is not always followed, but that is kind of hard if the topic is there for so long.

    The humility of Jesus, I try to put the humbleness into it, the humility that Jacob reached after having been trained,
    His training stands for the training that we receive by the Holy Spirit.
    If we have our eyes fixed on Jesus.
    THe God of Jacob stand for God the Holy Spirit.

    Tge GOd of Abraham, Isac and Jacob
    Stand for the God the Father, God the Son and GO
    od the SPirit.

    May it all go well with you, in God’s hands

  201. foreverblessed says:

    Accept each day as it comes to you. By that, I mean not only the circumstances of your day but also the condition of your body. Your assignment is to trust me absolutely, resting in my sovereignty and faithfulness.
    Psalm 42:5

    Why, my soul, are you downcast?
    Why so disturbed within me?
    Put your hope in God,
    for I will yet praise him,
    my Savior and my God.

    2 Corinthians 13:4

    4 For to be sure, he was crucified in weakness, yet he lives by God’s power. Likewise, we are weak in him, yet by God’s power we will live with him in our dealing with you.

    Jeremiah 31:25

    25 I will refresh the weary and satisfy the faint.”

    What a beautiful verses, let them grow in my heart Lord, let that be true uin my heart.

    It is about humility isn’t it, the fruit that is in Jesus will enter in us, if we are attached to Him.
    But if we accuse one another of things we do ourselves, then our pipies are clotted, and the fruit of Jesus finds a hard way to enter us.

    So lets clean our connection,
    that is what Oswald Chambers wrote about, things that are wrong in ourselves,
    Neglect it, what are we to neglect, or fight it with “violence” that is in the power of the Holy Spirit.

    ALl negative thoughts about another must be fought against. We can take our negativity to Jesus, and leave it with Him. The leaving it with Him is the big fight: fighht against taking it up again with all the power of the Holy Spirit you can ask.

  202. foreverblessed says:

    The humility of Christ:

    He was crucified in weakness
    but lives by the Power of God

  203. jeff1 says:

    I have read this morning that leaks from the White House suggest that President Trump is on mental breakdown as sources claim his mood swings are erratic and that it is unlikely he will make it to the next election.

    I have no idea on America nor will I pretend to but it seems this man is in need of compassion from people and may God look down on him today and meet his need as I have struggled with mental illness for most of my life and it can be a very lonely place which there is little understanding of as there is little interest in understanding it.

    My dad gave politics a wide berth here such was his wisdom in seeking God above all other.

    Politics was a murky world here and it doesn’t seem to be that different in other countries and I am not sure that you can be involved in it without getting your feet wet so may God help him today in whatever his turmoil.

  204. poohpity says:

    Gossip, slander and bearing false witness are some of the deadliest poisons that infect a community and ruin people’s lives. They deny reality, truth and reason the very essence of evil and unrighteousness as James puts it, Hypocrisy.

    How great a forest is set ablaze by such a small fire! 6 And the tongue is a fire, a world of unrighteousness. The tongue is set among our members, staining the whole body, setting on fire the entire course of life, and set on fire by hell. 7 For every kind of beast and bird, of reptile and sea creature, can be tamed and has been tamed by mankind, 8 but no human being can tame the tongue. It is a restless evil, full of deadly poison. 9 With it we bless our Lord and Father, and with it we curse people who are made in the likeness of God. 10 From the same mouth come blessing and cursing. My brothers, these things ought not to be so. 11 Does a spring pour forth from the same opening both fresh and salt water? 12 Can a fig tree, my brothers, bear olives, or a grapevine produce figs? Neither can a salt pond yield fresh water.

    Who is wise and understanding among you? By his good conduct let him show his works in the meekness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your hearts, do not boast and be false to the truth. 15 This is not the wisdom that comes down from above, but is earthly, unspiritual, demonic. 16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there will be disorder and every vile practice. 17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, open to reason, full of mercy and good fruits, impartial and sincere. 18 And a harvest of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

  205. Beloved says:

    Good day all! It’s a wonderful new day, full of mercy and love from our Heavenly Father

    “Children Of The Heavenly Father”

    Children of the Heavenly Father
    Safely in His bosom gather
    Nestling bird nor star in heaven
    Such a refuge e’er was given

    God His own doth tend and nourish
    In His holy courts they flourish
    From all evil things He spares them
    In His mighty arms He bears them

    Neither life nor death shall ever
    From the Lord His children sever
    Unto them His grace He showeth
    And their sorrows all He knoweth

    Though He giveth or He taketh
    God His children ne’er forsaketh
    His the loving purpose solely
    To preserve them pure and holy

    Lo their very hairs He numbers
    And no daily care encumbers
    Them that share His ev’ry blessing
    And His help in woes distressing

    Praise the Lord in joyful numbers
    Your Protector never slumbers
    At the will of your Defender
    Ev’ry foe man must surrender.

    Children of the Heavenly Father
    Safely in His bosom gather
    Nestling bird nor star in heaven
    Such a refuge e’er was given

  206. jeff1 says:

    Thankfully it is actions that speak louder than words and in truth if we held our tongues more often and give them a rest we would be doing God a great justice.

    As my Rector said when I told him my young son was annoying me by his attitude in thinking “he knew it all” that no one likes a “know it all” unless they are the ONE that thinks they “know it all”.

    When we bombard people with words then we seem like we are more about making a point than anything else.

    I think people want to see that we walk the walk rather than talk the talk and as Steve as said that is where offering support or giving a hug is much more the requirement in a hurting world.

  207. poohpity says:

    Just something to think about in regards to our President.

    Since the minute he took office the left has tried to impeach him and accused him of everything but what he has actually accomplished just because he won the election.

    He is not a politician and thus his net worth has fallen since being in office whereas other politicians net worth has grown since being in office. Look at Pres Obama who’s net worth grew 468% since taking office and now bought a huge mansion worth 58 million dollars and then there was the Clinton’s who were broke when they first entered the White House only to have their net worth grow astronomically afterward as have most of the members of Congress because they are bought out by special interest groups and lobbyists.

    President Trump donates his salary to a non-profit every paycheck. Pres Trump is pulling back the curtain of the politics in DC to show the corruption and the truth of the swamp found in that city and of course people want to get him out of office because he is interfering with their meal ticket. The money they get not from work but from favors.

    People listen to those who hate him and say all kinds of things about him that are not true or from people who do not even know him but just offer baseless opinions because of their hate for him because he is not a politician and is not sucking up to what has gone on in the DC for many many years.

    We are seeing what happens to anyone who goes against the mob mentality of the left which controls most media and most parts of the federal government. Nothing they have accused him of has he been proven guilty even after 2 years of investigations but those who started that false accusation are now being investigated and the results to follow but many FBI leaders have been fired for breaking the law.

  208. street says:

    if you think education is expensive you should try ignorance.

  209. street says:

    thinking of broken bread and poured out wine.

    sometimes we see this, other times we want others to be broken bread and poured out wine. it’s hard to be give when you are a mendicant. what did Jesus give us and do it extravagantly?

  210. jeff1 says:

    As my mum would say the truth won’t stay buried and she is right it doesn’t as even the dead here have been investigated and one celebrity had his knighthood (OBE) removed when found guilty.

    Misconduct can now be proved with the advancements in science and technology and so cover ups are no longer possible regardless of the person’s status.

  211. Beloved says:

    I saw her name and decided she’s no longer invited into my living room. This blog is like a gathering of friends around the globe and I very much enjoy it, mostly. Since “p” said she was leaving I decided she will not be allowed to come back in my life again. I’m so glad that tortured part of my past is over. I have such peace now and look forward to this gathering of mendicants who struggle as I do with learning Gods ways. I invite anyone else who struggles to simply omit posters who cause grief. There is plenty to pray about every day. Enough said.

  212. Beloved says:

    Studying Psalm45 and found it’s a love song to Jesus.

    45 1 [1][2]My heart is stirred by a noble theme as I recite my verses for the king; my tongue is the pen of a skillful writer. 2 You are the most excellent of men and your lips have been anointed with grace, since God has blessed you forever. 3 Gird your sword on your side, you mighty one; clothe yourself with splendor and majesty. 4 In your majesty ride forth victoriously in the cause of truth, humility and justice; let your right hand achieve awesome deeds. 5 Let your sharp arrows pierce the hearts of the king’s enemies; let the nations fall beneath your feet.

    The sword talked about is the Spirit according to Spurgeon. Verse 4 caught my eye as it relates to this topic; ride forth in the cause of truth, humility and justice.

    I think the whole psalm is so beautiful, it melts my heart.

  213. Regina says:

    Good Evening, All
    I think it’s ((SO)) exciting that we’re going about our daily routine on an historical day!! Today is: 9-9-19! Wondering whether Steve has some biblical insight or interesting biblical numerology on the importance of this day? Thinking that the next time we’ll see three 9’s in a date will be 9-9-2099 (and that’s 4 9’s in a date).Thank you, forever, for the compliment re: my prayer for bubbles on 9-2-19. And I totally understand why we (sometimes) get off topic. I think it’s for a variety of reasons… to name a few: we want to share (at least a little bit of) what’s going on in our personal lives, we often need to request prayer for a friend, loved one or ourselves, we want to share a testimony or some interesting news with one another (a community of believers in Christ Jesus), we want to share what the Lord is doing in our lives from a spiritual perspective or we just long to talk to someone about what’s on our mind.
    So, it’s ok that we get off topic on occasion because in some way we’ve become a family, and, when you think about it, how many of your biological family members (or close friends) stay on topic when you’re having some good ole “I haven’t seen you in forever” conversation?
    I’m getting a little sleepy, but I want to share a little more about what’s on my mind… Ok, regarding our current President (U.S.A.) for those of you who agree with his way of governing the nation, his world view, ideology, etc. I sincerely doubt that you’ll be able to change the mind of someone who DOES NOT AGREE with Trump’s way of governing the nation, world view, ideology, etc. So, I think it’s best to just “agree to disagree”. Jesus wants us to have sincere love for one another, and it may cause unrest in our spirit or bitterness in our heart if we’re constantly trying to sway someone to believe what we believe to be true about a person (to no avail).
    forever, I read online today about a serious shooting incident that left 3 dead in the Dutch city of Dordrecht. Do you live anywhere near there? According to the news report, they only had a little information (at that time) regarding the incident and the investigation was still on-going.
    Ok, getting ready to read a little bit before I turn in for the night.

    86 degrees and clear in my neck of the woods… I ate veggie tacos for dinner tonight (crispy taco shells, vegan mayo (don’t know why I like mayo on my tacos), lettuce, spicy salsa and guacamole (I didn’t feel like chopping up onion or tomato). They were very good!

    Love to all,
    Regina

  214. poohpity says:

    I only base how I rank the President on what he has accomplished since being in office which can be found on the White house government website that lists the facts. One can share their opinion in an attempt to influence others to their way of thinking or be informed with facts before one comes to form a conclusion. The media tries to influence while statistics inform. There are things that he does that I find hard to like but it is not about his personality to me but the things he has done for our country that makes a difference to me and there are many accomplishments under his belt. So I would rather pray for him since he is the sitting President than to slander or gossip about the things I know nothing about other than what the left wing media throws around hoping something will stick. After each false accusation proves to be false they bring up something else. He and his family has been severely attacked just because he won the 2016 election so much so that the progressives even want to change our constitution to fit their hatred.

    But I guess that is not unique when people are used to living under a lawless administration to find it hard to follow someone who does follow the law. The same with this blog who cares about Mart or the blog just do what you want and that kind of thinking follows people into every part of their lives, if Mart thought that was OK he would have never separated this blog from the rest of the ministries of ODB. Ever think about that?

  215. poohpity says:

    I guess I am different in how I vote because I do research on the accomplishments of the person not the party affiliation because I am a believing independent American and I am not swayed by public opinions but by facts and what actually is rather than what others say “is” according to their perspective.

  216. foreverblessed says:

    I keep praying for you Pooh!
    Trump does need nobody to defend him, relax, he can defend himself very well. With a wheather map and a marker.
    Trump needs lots of prayer too!
    Lots!
    Thank you Regina for your concern.
    Yes, I live close to that city, it is a family drama.
    Terrible, I remember about 20 years ago it happened more often, fathers that would shoot their families, it has been a while back now.
    I pray….

  217. jeff1 says:

    From what you are saying about what the President has achieved then it would seem that he is more a business man than the politician and to my thinking that is in his favour as my experiences of politicians aren’t good.

    You are right to look and what he has achieved as I listened to bluffers all my life but you can fool people some of the time but not all of the time as they say.

    The results speak for themselves and you cannot trust another’s motives i.e. media or disgruntled staff so it is wisdom to investigate.

    Hope he is well and that media coverage here is misinformed on his health.

  218. poohpity says:

    forever, I will defend anyone when lies are spread about them from ignorant people who are totally misinformed and go on propaganda rather than facts I guess because I know how what it feels like. Thank you for the prayers and know that I pray for you as well because lots of prayer is needed.

  219. street says:

    thinking about a conversation between officers.
    one senior officer says to the junior officer, ” i think you are losing control?” junior officers reply,” when did i ever have control?”

  220. foreverblessed says:

    That’s a very good one Street!

    That makes me think….
    When did we ever have control?

    This was in the wisdom box of my utmost:

    To those who have had no agony Jesus says, “I have nothing for you; stand on your own feet, square your own shoulders. I have come for the man who knows he has a bigger handful than he can cope with, who knows there are forces he cannot touch; I will do everything for him if he will let Me. Only let a man grant he needs it, and I will do it for him.”
    The Shadow of an Agony, Oswald Chambers.

  221. SFDBWV says:

    It is believed that the night before the battle of Fredericksburg VA during the American Civil War that the Aurora Borealis was observed by the troops.

    It is also recorded that it was seen by some to be the tears of God for the carnage that came as men killed one another over politics.

    To a generation of men who died during WWI it was a war to end all wars.

    “Poems are made by fools like me,
    But only God can make a tree.”
    Sargent Joyce Kilmer

    Man has mishandled what control God gave him since the beginning.

    Man can’t save mankind, only God can.

    Steve

  222. foreverblessed says:

    So right Steve!
    War and waging was is sooo…. ueseless

    The rethoric that people in power use, is slowly changing the atmosphere to distrust, suspicion, then even paranoia. The words they use, they do matter.
    A person in power cannot use words that are populistic, demeaning…

    However they do…
    And then the box of pandora is opened and they cannot get the spirit of hate back into the box.

    I remeber the words Milosovic used in the nineties, and lo and behold, what was the end result?:
    they got into war.

    It really makes me pray more, the words that are used to show how demaning the lies of the leftist parties are. The leftist media.
    And no word about the same lies the rightist parties use, the rightist media!
    Isn’t that showing partiality?

    God is not mocked: a lie is a lie, whether it comes form the east or from the west.

    Why even using the name: left and right?
    As if making the disunity even bigger.

    We had great disunity in our country in the seventies about left and right.
    That was awful.
    Till there was a govenrment made of a coalition between left and right, and they had to govern together.

    They did quite allright…..
    but the people wanted the rethoric of being against another party, the opposite party. And so they were getting grumbling.

    THis is just a shhort vision today.
    Now we have a colation between all different kind of parties, the right (in oyr country that is the liberal party) and the left, but many do not want that distiction used anymore. There is also an evangelical party part of the coalition. And I pray for them too.
    For wisdom, for fairness.

    I have send a letter that they consider the north part of the country, where there was ahuge gasfield. Form the sixties on, we have greatly benefitted from that gas, Cheap gas.

    But…
    Now earthquakes happen in that area.
    ANd you know, our country is on a big sand and clay field, no earthquake area.
    Now….
    How fair do you think these people were treated that have their houses?
    First thing is: How do you prove that the houses get out of joint because of the earth sinking deeper?
    The first few years it was said to these people: Your houses are old, more than 100 years, so cracks in the walls do happen.
    The earth had to sink deeper and deeper, till it has become clear, after 10 years that this sinking of the erath has been human-induced:
    The gas winning underground.

    More than 10 years people in agony, and fear, when the next dislocation would happen. No more safe in your own house.
    If it gets really bad, it is easy to show that this is no more safe to live there.
    But if it is onloy a little bit worse, bit by bit, when is it apparant that humans have to make fair decisions?
    SO I asked the evangelical to be fair to these people, and this will cost a lot of money.

    God does leave us in our own power.
    He lets it go out of hand,
    Till it is obvious that we are not in control,
    Never were
    THat we lost control when humans decided in the garden of Eden that they do not need God, they were seduced by the snake. Adam wasn’t, but decided to go with Eve.

    O dear, now we are here, to show that we rely on God, first the christians….
    Relying on God, and being One in Him

  223. foreverblessed says:

    I was bringing in this story of the gaswinning and the earthquakes, to make this point:
    How fair are christians in politics?
    Do they defend the weak?

    This evangelical party, that is part of the government, will it back up and straighten their backs, to defend the rights of the oppressed?
    Or will they say: Well, that means that the gascompany will lose profit, and will go down, so we will defend the rights of the company?
    And leave the victims alone?

    God is not mocked, God told us in the bible that we have to defend the fatherless, the widowed, in fact, He meant:
    Defend the weak ones,
    The ones that cannot defend themselves.

    God was not saying: Defend the big companies, the ones that want to make a profit.

    I had a talk yesterday with a christian man who had been an economist. He said that in Economy there is a discussion too, about how to treat business, how to do economy.
    That God told in the Old Testament to leave the corners of the field, for the poor.
    While in economy that last scrap is used to make a profit.
    Our government had stimulated a new technique: Pulse fishing.
    An electric pulse is send into the water, that toudhes the sea bottom, so that fish will go up, and get cought in the net:

    Well, how about that compared to God’s advice: Leave the corners, Do not catch all the fish, leave some.
    Not only for the poor, but for the fish population to be kept intact.

    What does the evangelical party chose? FOr the fishhing companies? They had made huge investment for those special boats that could give electric pulses.

    Now the EU has decided this way of fishing is not allowed!
    Wow, the EU overrules!
    So here the EU is making a decision that is to me: very welcoming!

    Now this evangelical party is part of our Government, but it is a coalition. So there needs to be made a compromise. Not all good and christian actions are made.
    Now, what if a good advice is not followed; Does the evangleical party throw around slanderous words of how wrong it all is?

    Do we as christinas push our way?

    Or are we like Jesus, living in humility?
    Because that is the Topic:
    THe humility of Jesus

    GOd does not force anyone, GOd the Father, Neithher Jesus, neither the Holy Spirit.

    He wants us to follow Him out of love

    Do we love the Son?
    It shows in what we do and write.

  224. foreverblessed says:

    Sorry for all the typos, I thought that I had proofread, but apparantly I didn’t good enough.

    My point was triggered by Street’s words:
    When were we in control?

    Jesus also knew that He was not in control.
    He said that He did not do anything unless He saw the Father doing it.
    What a humility.
    He, Jesus, was the Power of the Universe, The Word by which All came into being.
    He, this powerfull King of Kings, Prince of Peace, He being Jesus, says: Of Myself I can do nothing!

    But what a discipline.
    What a restrain of Power.

    And we need to be disciplined too!

    That is done by the Holy Spirit.

    Have a nice day, I am off, doing duties, and I try to do it in love, with my eyes on Jesus, even the most menial jobs, in the love for Jesus. As if I do them for Jesus, the King in my house.
    And my house does have no cracks, so while doing my chores I pray for those who have.
    And pray for wisdom for the ones in the government, for the ones who can decide.

  225. poohpity says:

    I have never believed there is a person on this earth that is perfect and does not mess up. Not leaders of countries whether it be Presidents, Kings, Queens, PM, etc. are perfect in anyway and I take that into account not even leaders of churches, none are perfect no not one. But I do worship the One that is, God so therefore no one else gets my worship.

    In our government there are three branches that govern our Republic; The Executive branch which is supposed to enforce the laws of our land and run the military as per the Constitution, The Legislative branch which makes and writes our laws, The Judicial branch which interprets the laws as per the Constitution. The three branches work together usually, not one has more power than the others they are co-equal. However we have half of one of the branches(legislative-Congress) at this time that is not doing their job but are trying to destroy our Commander-n-Chief because they are not satisfied with the results of our last election in 2016 rather than working together for the good of our country.

    As with any tripod when one of the legs is broken it does not hold anything up and who gets the blame because it is always the fault of someone else. Just as people blame Eve when Adam was right there next to her, the first blame started, no one taking personal responsibility for their own actions.

    Every house has cracks and when we do not realize it that is when one starts the process of looking down on others and the feeling of superiority or pride comes in. Whether the cracks are on the inside, the people, or the outside nothing or no one is perfect. Until one realizes that they will never understand Grace and will always be quick to criticize or blame everyone else.

    Jesus never pointed His finger at anyone because He knew all were guilty but instead of condemning them He bore their guilt and put their/our welfare above His own it is called selflessness while most human beings do things out of selfish ambitions to make themselves look good, godly or better than others. But God knows we are all in the same boat ALL need a Savior and if we think for a minute that we are a savior to others we are in fact delusional and the truth is not in us.

  226. foreverblessed says:

    Jesus never pointed His finger at anyone because He knew all were guilty

    So Pooh, why do you point the finger to the leftist media?
    And not to the rightist media?
    Why calling the slanderous talk of the opponents of Trump so slanderous, and yet, say nothing about the slanderous words Trump uses?

  227. foreverblessed says:

    And I ask you this question in deep concern for your soul.
    You, who preach the words of Jesus, do you keep them yourself?
    This same question goes for me.

    This topic is about Jesus: showing humility without a trace of hypocrisy.

    I am saying this out of a deep love for your soul.
    No hate at all!

    Hypocrisy, is also mentioned in todays Utmost, in the little things in our lives and words, do we show what Jesus preaches?

  228. poohpity says:

    I am able to discern truth from lies and shouldn’t we all be aware of that as to not be lead down a wrong path and shouldn’t we shine a light on it so others are not lead astray as well. Not many will check out what the media says whether right or left I am an equal opportunity media non-believer or others to find out if it is truthful or not but just go along because it is on social media or on the news. We need to verify what our minds are told and just do not believe everything we are hear.

    Please never again compare me with Jesus there is absolutely no comparison at all and it is from Him I learned to test what I hear and not be gullible to the garbage we are fed from any source.

    God grant me the serenity to accept the things I can not change, the courage to change the things I can and the WISDOM to know the difference. We can not change people or our circumstances in most cases but we can change how we react to both.

    You need not concern yourself with my soul it is in the hands of my maker. You are not saying that out of deep love for my soul but out of a critical, judgemental, condemning spirit and in self righteousness, dear one.

    All you need to concern yourself with is whether YOU are living out what you say you believe, it is not your business whether anyone else is.

  229. foreverblessed says:

    God bless you Pooh, and may He be merciful to you, as He is to me.

    I am very very saddened that you judge my heart again:

    “You are not saying that out of deep love for my soul but out of a critical, judgemental, condemning spirit and in self righteousness, dear one.”

    Dear God, forgive Pooh, for she does not know what she is saying.

    and this is the end of me having a converstaion with Pooh.
    I shake the dust of ny shoes and walk on, whith whom I may be received in peace.
    Where my peace is returned.

    God is in control,
    with God everything is possible,

    It is right that I have to be concerned with my own heart, and I will do so:
    That I am not hypocritical, talking about love of Jesus, talking about Grace, but judging another persons heart.

  230. poohpity says:

    Forever You can use all the flowery or what you think are godly words but when one takes off the pretty cover of deceitfulness it is still meanness no matter how sweet you make it sound.

  231. poohpity says:

    Forever are you actually saying you do not sit in judgement of others?

  232. jeff1 says:

    I think there is a big difference in sitting in judgement of others and making sound judgements oneself and the latter is what God requires of me.

    The Lord has rebuked me for judging others and why I know it is the latter He requires.

    I make sound judgements when I am listening to Him above all other because as His earthly vessel that is my purpose.

    God has boundaries and they are there for very good reasons and that is what He is teaching me as they are there for my protection as much as they are my growth.

    God is in control.

  233. Beloved says:

    To those who have had no agony Jesus says, “I have nothing for you; stand on your own feet, square your own shoulders. I have come for the man who knows he has a bigger handful than he can cope with, who knows there are forces he cannot touch; I will do everything for him if he will let Me. Only let a man grant he needs it, and I will do it for him.”
    The Shadow of an Agony, Oswald Chambers.

    Thank you for this Forever. In our study this morning we heard about the day the Israelites left Eqypt and stood at the Sea of Reeds awaiting Gods deliverance from the Egyptians. About what must have been going through their minds having children and grandchildren in tow waiting for the waters to part. How they had cried out to the universe for help, and discovered a God who not only heard them but revealed Himself in mighty ways for their good. I think as followers of Christ we are always testing in a sense to see if He can do what He has shown He can do through the ages. It takes humility, letting go and letting God as the saying goes. Wars and rumors of wars, yes, clay pots in a world of steel and iron, of course. I think we control up to a point, but ultimately God is in control. What does a pot know, really.

  234. street says:

    The pot is to know God and trust Him. In other words the broken pot is to hold on to God. Other words tp describe this , adhere too, abide, remain, obey, love. Broken pots are humble pots

  235. jeff1 says:

    We Are Broken

    I know you’re hurting your heart needs healing,
    Let me dry your eyes I know your feeling;
    Like the sun will never shine again,
    Like the pain inside will never end;
    Sometimes it takes a little faith to mend.

    We are broken to become more beautiful,
    Tried by fire to shine like gold;
    We are shattered to free the diamonds in our souls,
    We are broken to be whole.

    Love let you fall, now you’re in pieces,
    And your thoughts are scattered, what are the reasons?
    Oh, but time will work as medicine,
    And you’ll find your wings to fly again;
    Higher than you’ve ever been.

    We are broken to become more beautiful,
    Tried by fire to shine like gold;
    We are shattered to free the diamonds in our souls,
    We are broken to be whole.

    Yeah, we are broken to be whole.
    We are broken to be whole.

  236. foreverblessed says:

    We are broken to be hole!

    All of us are broken!
    But saying I am mean is not the truth!

    In fact, I am really looking forward to singing praises to God in heaven, together with Pooh!
    And we will say, oh how ugly that was. How veiled our sight was!

    That is the truth, and I lie not.
    It is because of the Grace of God, that came down from heaven and filled my heart!

    The only control I have is deciding to give my burden to Jesus.
    And ask for His love, and grace, and patience.
    And just do that over and over again, and not give up, nor faint.
    And wait for the Lord.
    Psalm 27:14

    I was praying for the people with cracks in their houses, and I was also thinking about the broken pots.

    These houses stand on ground that is sinking, they could not help it.
    But we can see to it that our lives stand on the Rock, that is Jesus.

  237. Beloved says:

    Street you have a way of bringing it home! Thank you.

    I was thinking of a cracked pot. If you fill it with pure liquid gold or silver and wait for it to harden you might see some of it shining through the cracks, but, if you remove the pot what’s left? Pure metal. Pure, like Jesus. He is our wholeness. Gladly waiting for this shell to be removed one day. When I finally see Him face to face!

  238. jeff1 says:

    “Lead Me To The Rock”

    When my heart is overwhelmed
    And my eyes are blind to You
    And the pain of life is just too heavy to bear

    And then the mountains seems so high
    And my faith’s too weak to climb
    Lead me to the rock that is higher than I

    Lead me to the rock, lead me to the rock
    Lead me to the rock that is higher than I
    Lead me to the rock, lead me to the rock
    Lead me to the rock that is higher than I

    When my life is hit with fear
    And I fight to hide the tears
    And I wrestle in my heart to know what to do

    Lord, I’m welling up inside
    But I know You hear my cry
    Jesus, lead me to the rock that is higher than I

    Lead me to the rock, lead me to the rock
    Lead me to the rock that is higher than I
    Lead me to the rock, lead me to the rock
    Lead me to the rock that is higher than I

    You are the rock and there is no other
    A tower of strength, You are my shelter
    Lord, You are my hope eternal
    You are the rock that is higher than I

    You are the rock and there is no other, oh
    A tower of strength, You are my shelter
    Lord, You are my hope eternal
    You are the rock that is higher than I

    Lead me to the rock, lead me to the rock
    Lead me to the rock that is higher than I, oh
    Lead me to the rock, lead me to the rock
    Lead me to the rock that is higher than I, oh

    Lead me to the rock, lead me to the rock
    Lead me to the rock that is higher than I, oh
    Lead me to the rock, lead me to the rock
    Lead me to the rock that is higher than I, oh

  239. poohpity says:

    Who ever kneels before God can stand before anyone.

  240. jeff1 says:

    Immortal, invisible, God only wise,
    In light inaccessible hid from our eyes,
    Most blessèd, most glorious, the Ancient of Days,
    Almighty, victorious, thy great Name we praise.

    Unresting, unhasting, and silent as light,
    Nor wanting, nor wasting, thou rulest in might;
    Thy justice like mountains high soaring above
    Thy clouds which are fountains of goodness and love.

    To all life thou givest — to both great and small;
    In all life thou livest, the true life of all;
    We blossom and flourish as leaves on the tree,
    And wither and perish—but nought changeth thee.

    Great Father of glory, pure Father of light,
    Thine angels adore thee, all veiling their sight;
    All laud we would render: O help us to see
    ’Tis only the splendour of light hideth thee.

    Great Father of glory, pure Father of light,
    Thine angels adore Thee, all veiling their sight;
    But of all Thy rich graces this grace, Lord, impart
    Take the veil from our faces, the vile from our heart.

    All laud we would render; O help us to see
    ’Tis only the splendour of light hideth Thee,
    And so let Thy glory, Almighty, impart,
    Through Christ in His story, Thy Christ to the heart.

  241. street says:

    Who ever kneels before God can stand before anyone.

    Jesus washed the feet of His disciples that were scattered at His arrest. He reminded them to do what He had done. He forgave us and payed our ransom.

    3 He was despised and rejected by mankind,
    a man of suffering, and familiar with pain.
    Like one from whom people hide their faces
    he was despised, and we held him in low esteem.

    4
    Surely he took up our pain
    and bore our suffering,
    yet we considered him punished by God,
    stricken by him, and afflicted.
    5
    6…..But he was pierced for our transgressions,
    he was crushed for our iniquities;
    the punishment that brought us peace was on him,
    and by his wounds we are healed.

    and the Lord has laid on him
    the iniquity of us all.

    7 ………..

    8
    By oppression and judgment he was taken away.
    Yet who of his generation protested?
    For he was cut off from the land of the living;
    for the transgression of my people he was punished.
    9
    He was assigned a grave with the wicked,
    and with the rich in his death,
    though he had done no violence,
    nor was any deceit in his mouth.

    10
    Yet it was the Lord’s will to crush him and cause him to suffer,
    and though the Lord makes his life an offering for sin,
    he will see his offspring and prolong his days,
    and the will of the Lord will prosper in his hand.

    11
    After he has suffered,
    he will see the light of life[a] and be satisfied[b];
    by his knowledge[c] my righteous servant will justify many,
    and he will bear their iniquities.
    12
    Therefore I will give him a portion among the great,
    and he will divide the spoils with the strong,
    because he poured out his life unto death,
    and was numbered with the transgressors.
    For he bore the sin of many,
    and made intercession for the transgressors.

  242. street says:

    thinking of Jesus reply to james and johns mother, to sit at his right and left hand when He entered His Kingdom. two thieves were given the honor. one it actually benefited him. the other it did not. from what i understand judas was given the place of honor at the last supper. yet nothing is hidden from God. every detail ordained by God.

  243. street says:

    thinking about putting God in a box? some how Holiness and humility in the same box is difficult. then throw in righteousness and justice. add wrath and mercy. the list goes on…….Eternal? Light and no darkness.

  244. street says:

    O Israel, hope in the Lord

    from this time on and forevermore.

    Romans 8:24
    For in hope we have been saved, but hope that is seen is not hope; for who hopes for what he already sees?

  245. poohpity says:

    stre, That statement about kneeling before God and standing before anyone means that we need not bow down to anyone else. As David stood before Goliath and as Paul stood before many kings they did not need to bow to anyone else but could stand before them. Get it?

  246. jeff1 says:

    What I get is that I am to go where God leads me for the good of the Kingdom and if He calls me to stand, sit or lie down I am to be obedient to His calling.

    Jesus did His father’s will whatever it entailed as it was God’s requirement for Him to do so as He obeyed His father’s commands whatever the cost to Himself.

    David and Paul understood this as did most of Christ’s disciples did because they where closely watching His example of doing His father’s will above their own understanding so that when He departed from them they followed His example.

    Jesus will instruct me when I should stand, sit or lie down as this servant as learned that she is not greater than her master and I kneel before Him in tears of humiliation and gratitude and wonder in seeing that He knows best.

  247. poohpity says:

    Ooh? If one really gets it then what about forgiving others as He has forgiven us? One of the main acts of obedience is just that.

  248. poohpity says:

    As we bow down to worship Him isn’t it a true sign that we totally get what was done for us when we do it to others? Jesus said, “Love as I have loved you”! He humbled Himself unto death just so we could be forgiven when we did not deserve it, that is called grace.

  249. mtman says:

    Stopped in for a review and was somewhat amazed that the topic had reverted to President Trump. It is infrequent that I find myself agreeing with Pooh but I too research candidates and vote independent. I check facts and vote accordingly.
    Whether I like our president or not to me is unimportant. It is the facts that count. When I was in the military the president was our commander and chief and likability was a non factor. We respected the office even though the man may be personally lacking. Other past presidents were lacking….Nixon had a terrible potty mouth, Kennedy was a serial womanizer, Eisenhower was an animal abuser and the list goes on.
    Character flaws were not important but respect for the position and authority were. Same today, but many dwell on the character flaws and not on the accomplishments.
    I find it disappointing to see a discussion on a “Christian” blog site degrading the man and the office and indirectly our country. I fail to see the purpose of turning a Christian blog into a judgmental political site.

  250. SFDBWV says:

    Am thinking this morning about humility and hypocrisy and the given character of God.

    When we think of hypocrisy we think of someone who preaches one thing, but does the opposite in action.

    While there are certainly a plethora of people who consider themselves to be Christ like (Christian) who fit the definition of hypocrite, we expect God not to and especially in the written example of Jesus of Nazareth.

    Here was one of the root problems that the Jewish experts in the Law had with Jesus. He acted indifferent to the nature of the Law as they understood it, and so their view of the character of God.

    They expected their Messiah to be a vengeful fiery God who would crush all opposition to the Hebrew people with an iron fist and see that every law would be carried out by force and fear.

    Yet here was Jesus who treated women with the same dignity and respect He would a man, and while warning of the consequences of sin freely and openly forgave all that came to Him.

    Through love and humility instead of absolute authority.

    Then of course when He referred to Himself as being the Great I Am those of the Law insisted He be put to death for blasphemy.

    All the while Jesus offering eternal life.

    While the mystery of God will remain, the written fact is that all of creation was carried out through Jesus the Son of God, the “Word”.

    Equally eternal life is offered for all by the act of this same Jesus.

    His actions reflected His teaching; in that there is no hypocrisy

    That He is the Creator of all creation and yet being such He opted to take the insults of sin against Him and instead of revenge, forgive so that you and I could be reunited with Him, shows more than just humility.

    It shows that He is indeed The Great I Am, the Creator of the universe and Author of life.

    It shows as was recorded that God is Love.

    And why it seems so hard for us to be like Him.

    Steve

  251. Beloved says:

    Mtman your post reminded me of the beheading of John the Baptist for calling out Herod on his sin of taking his brothers wife. September 11 is the day designated by the Eastern Orthodox Church to remember this event. Yes it’s dangerous to criticize leaders. Yet in Gods sovereignty these things are not overlooked but seem to be important. Just some thoughts. Good to hear from you.

  252. Beloved says:

    Thinking nationalistic we are told to pray for leaders that we be able to live quiet peaceful lives, flourishing and able to practice our faith in God freely. In Jesus days here the Jews had this freedom to practice in the Roman Empire. God has been faithful to us here in the US and other countries like the Netherlands and Ireland and England to be free from government influence, not that it’s not tenuous at times but He keeps Us. We all are so so blessed. We must pray for believers in other countries that they may experience the same. Many are persecuted, we have no idea what that is like. Bless God.

  253. poohpity says:

    Steve that is exactly spoken as one who does not know the OT and that God is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. The religious leaders did not recognize who Jesus was because they had their own understanding of God as they changed and added what He did into their own rules and laws not God’s. The intentions of God’s laws were to teach the Israelites how to love God and others which is exactly what Jesus did as He fulfilled everyone of those laws that were given to Moses.

    Beloved, John the Baptist knew King Herod personally and had many conversation with Him so he knew exactly what Herod was doing unlike those who voice their opinions about Pres Trump from the propaganda that is spread around by third, fourth parties but no direct knowledge and most is based on the original hate. John the Baptist did not hate Herod but spoke words to him to help and it was because of the dancing girl that he had John beheaded not because of anything that John had done.

    Those are the very reasons that fact finding is so important before we form any conclusions about anyone and offer our uninformed opinions based on nothing but lies and gossip.

  254. poohpity says:

    The government in those countries Beloved run the churches unlike here where we have freedom to worship no matter what our religion is that was the very this country was founded for religious freedom away from government’s who established the churches in their countries. Thus our very first amendment to the Constitution;

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

  255. street says:

    7 Thus the Lord God showed me, and behold, He was forming a locust-swarm when the spring crop began to sprout. And behold, the spring crop was after the king’s mowing. 2 And it came about, when it had finished eating the vegetation of the land, that I said,

    “Lord God, please pardon!
    How can Jacob stand,
    For he is small?”
    3
    The Lord changed His mind about this.
    “It shall not be,” said the Lord.

    4 Thus the Lord God showed me, and behold, the Lord God was calling to contend with them by fire, and it consumed the great deep and began to consume the farm land. 5 Then I said,

    “Lord God, please stop!
    How can Jacob stand, for he is small?”
    6
    The Lord changed His mind about this.
    “This too shall not be,” said the Lord God.

    7 Thus He showed me, and behold, the Lord was standing by a vertical wall with a plumb line in His hand. 8 The Lord said to me, “What do you see, Amos?” And I said, “A plumb line.” Then the Lord said,

    “Behold I am about to put a plumb line
    In the midst of My people Israel.
    I will spare them no longer.
    9
    “The high places of Isaac will be desolated
    And the sanctuaries of Israel laid waste.
    Then I will rise up against the house of Jeroboam with the sword.”

    thinking about mendicants that need strength, faithfulness, love. need forgiveness, grace and mercy, too. having received these things from Jesus, Lord and Savior, how do we give these to others without hypocrisy?

    2 Corinthians 1:
    23 But I call God as witness to my soul, that to spare you I did not come again to Corinth. 24 Not that we lord it over your faith, but are workers with you for your joy; for in your faith you are standing firm. ?

  256. street says:

    been thinking about this verse.

    Daniel 9:26
    Then after the sixty-two weeks the Messiah will be cut off and have nothing, and the people of the prince who is to come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. And its end will come with a flood; even to the end there will be war; desolations are determined.

    the thing that has caught my attention is being cut off with nothing. solomn spoke of the futility of life that leads to despair. also calling it vanity. to claim something apart from God is foolishness, yet we are to claim and believe the WORD made flesh. even given a Spirit that is from God. paul spoke of living in a decaying body where the Spirit is renewed daily. give us this day our daily bread, bread from heaven. more than conquers….children of God. The Eternal God. created. oh israel hope in the LORD. Trust and Bless His Holy Name.

  257. jeff1 says:

    Pooh, it is no concern of yours what Jesus is doing in my heart but I know that He is and that is good enough for me. I would have thought you would be concerned about what He is doing in yours if you really cared for Him as you say you do or is it you just blowing hot air when the notion takes you.

    Here is a quote from C. S. Lewis that is worth considering:

    C.S. Lewis — ‘It is safe to tell the pure in heart that they shall see God, for only the pure in heart want to.’

  258. jeff1 says:

    What a wonderful change in my life has been wrought
    since Jesus came into my heart!
    I have light in my soul for which long I had sought,
    since Jesus came into my heart!

    Refrain:
    Since Jesus came into my heart,
    since Jesus came into my heart,
    floods of joy o’er my soul like the sea billows roll,
    since Jesus came into my heart.

    2 I’m possessed of a hope that is steadfast and sure,
    since Jesus came into my heart!
    And no dark clouds of doubt now my pathway obscure,
    since Jesus came into my heart! [Refrain]

    3 There’s a light in the valley of death now for me,
    since Jesus came into my heart!
    And the gates of the city beyond I can see,
    since Jesus came into my heart! [Refrain]

    4 I shall go there to dwell in that city, I know
    since Jesus came into my heart!
    And I’m happy, so happy, as onward I go,
    since Jesus came into my heart! [Refrain]

  259. poohpity says:

    Viv, I was not talking about your heart but just following what you said about being obedient to God if He asked you to sit or stand, etc. You said, “What I get is that I am to go where God leads me for the good of the Kingdom and if He calls me to stand, sit or lie down I am to be obedient to His calling.” All I did was ask you about the one of things we were asked to do and that is to forgive and He has forgiven us. Your the one who talked about being obedient to God to sit, lie down or stand yet refuse to forgive.

  260. poohpity says:

    Viv, I was not talking about your heart but just following what you said about being obedient to God if He asked you to sit or stand, etc. You said, “What I get is that I am to go where God leads me for the good of the Kingdom and if He calls me to stand, sit or lie down I am to be obedient to His calling.” All I did was ask you about the one of things we were asked to do and that is to forgive as He has forgiven us. Your the one who talked about being obedient to God to sit, lie down or stand yet refuse to forgive the people in your country. Those are your own words not mine.

  261. jeff1 says:

    Well, I am talking about hearts because God wants to change them and a person has to allow Him access to do that!

  262. street says:

    Thinking of the grace and mercy of Exodus

  263. jeff1 says:

    Since God has come into my heart He has taken my focus of my enemies as my confidence in Him is growing as I learn to trust in His love, mercy and grace.

    I cannot understand or change my enemies as the Irish’s hatred of the British is historical but I can with God’s help not let them rob me of the present or looking forward to the future with hope.

    God changes my view when I live in His presence and I make new memories that I want to cherish.

    Father God You look on me
    Yet see no sin or shame
    You see Your Son who died for all
    To take away my blame
    He left his Father’s glorious throne
    All radiance set aside
    And hung alone eclipsed by sin
    ‘Til sin was crucified

    Let Your light shine in the darkness
    Let Your light shine in the darkness

    Empty now the threat of death
    As Empty lay the grave
    And all whose faith is in his life
    Will know His power to save
    Christ returned to heaven above
    In glorious light and power
    And by His Spirit I have hope
    To light my darkest hour

    Let Your light shine in the darkness
    Let Your light shine in the darkness

    Empty now the threat of death
    As Empty lay the grave
    And all whose faith is in his life
    Will know His power to save
    Christ returned to heaven above
    In glorious light and power
    And by His Spirit I have hope
    To light my darkest hour

    Let Your light shine in the darkness
    Let Your light shine in the darkness

    As the moon reflects the sun
    Now radiant we stand
    Freed from sin and Satan’s grip
    God’s kingdom is at hand
    Darkness, sin and death retreat
    And flee the marching dawn
    His love casts out our fear and doubt
    So let His church shine on

    Let Your light shine in the darkness
    Let Your light shine in the darkness

  264. Beloved says:

    Since God has come into my heart He has taken my focus of my enemies as my confidence in Him is growing as I learn to trust in His love, mercy and grace.

    Wonderful testimony Viv!

  265. Beloved says:

    We are all in the process, aren’t we. Oh He’s so good!

  266. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Beloved, the more I trust God the more He opens my eyes to truths which I have blinded myself to.

    Why me Lord?
    What have I ever done
    To deserve even one
    Of the pleasure I’ve known
    Tell me Lord
    What did I ever do
    That was worth lovin’ you
    For the kindness you’ve shown

    Lord help me Jesus
    I’ve wasted it so help me Jesus
    I know what I am
    But now that I know
    That I needed you so help me Jesus
    My souls in your hand

    Try me Lord
    If you think there’s a way
    I can try to repay
    All I’ve takin’ from you
    Maybe Lord
    I can show someone else
    What I’ve been through myself
    On my way back to you

    Lord help me Jesus
    I’ve wasted it so help me Jesus
    I know what I am
    But now that I know
    That I needed you so help me Jesus
    My souls in your hand

  267. Beloved says:

    Viv satan also blinds our eyes, we must put on the whole armor of God for this battle. I found this prayer online:

    “Heavenly Father

    Your warrior prepares for battle.
    Today I claim victory over Satan by putting on the whole Armor of God. I put on the Girdle of Truth!

    May I stand firm in the truth of Your Word so I will not be a victim of Satan’s lies. I put on the Breastplate of Righteousness!

    May it guard my heart from evil so I will remain pure and Holy, protected under the Blood of Jesus Christ. I put on the Shoes of Peace.

    May I stand firm in the Good News of the Gospel so Your Peace will shine through me to be a light to all I encounter. I take the Shield of Faith!

    May I be ready for Satan’s fiery darts of doubt, denial, and deceit so I will not be vulnerable to spiritual defeat. I put on the Helmet of Salvation!

    May I keep my mind focused on You so Satan will not have a stronghold on my thoughts. I take the Sword of the Spirit!

    May the two-edged sword of Your Word be ready in my hands so I can expose the tempting words of Satan.

    By faith your warrior has put on the Whole Armor of God! I am prepared to live this day in spiritual victory! Amen.”

  268. Beloved says:

    2Cor 3 For though we walk in the flesh [as mortal men], we are not carrying on our [spiritual] warfare according to the flesh and using the weapons of man.

    4 The weapons of our warfare are not physical [weapons of flesh and blood]. Our weapons are divinely powerful for the destruction of fortresses.

    5 We are destroying sophisticated arguments and every exalted and proud thing that sets itself up against the [true] knowledge of God,

    and we are taking every thought and purpose captive to the obedience of Christ.

  269. jeff1 says:

    Alpha, Omega, the First and Last;
    You’re all that is life for me;
    Beginning and Ending, the Source and Goal
    Of all that is and will be.

    You are all that is true. Life is flowing to You.
    You’re the light, the color and sound.
    As I search for a way to find peace through the day,
    You are heaven and here and now.
    Jesus be

    Alpha, Omega, the First and Last;
    You’re all that is life for me;
    Beginning and Ending, the Source and Goal
    Of all that is and will be.

    You are all that is true. Life is flowing to You.
    You’re the light, the color and sound.
    As I search for a way to find peace through the day,
    You are heaven and here and now.
    Jesus be Alpha, Omega, the First and Last;
    You’re all that is life for me.

  270. foreverblessed says:

    You’ll do fine, Jeff, when you keep singing these wonderful songs of praise about Jesus!

    Jesus who loved his enemies,
    He was willing to die for them!

    If we find something failing in another, like I did with the critique given on media, am I willing to die for that person?

    Just as Jesus was so inclined?

    God trains us molds us, till He sees thema face of Jesus reflected in us.

    There is power in the name of Jesus.
    A new song we are doing in our praise group.
    Jesus, Your name is power

    A devotion on that power of Jesus’ Name:

    “My Name is the Power that turns evil aside, that summons all good to your aid. Spirits of evil flee at the sound of “Jesus.” Spoken in fear, in weakness, in sorrow, in pain, it is an appeal I never fail to answer. “Jesus.”

    Use My Name often. Think of the unending call of “Mother” made by her children. To help, to care, to decide, to appeal, “Mother.” Use My Name in that same way – simply, naturally, forcefully. “Jesus.”

    Use it not only when you need help but to express Love. Uttered aloud, or in the silence of your hearts, it will alter an atmosphere from one of discord to one of Love. It will raise the standard of talk and thought. “Jesus.”

    “There is none other Name under Heaven whereby you can be saved.”

    Because of the savour of thy good ointments
    thy name is as ointment poured forth. Song of Solomon 1:3

    From twolisteners today

  271. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    September 12, 2019 at 11:35 am

    Your the one who talked about being obedient to God to sit, lie down or stand yet refuse to forgive.

    Strangely enough God has enlightened me to seeing that the enemy I think I know may be much less dangerous then the friend I do not know.

    Softly and tenderly Jesus is calling
    Calling for you and for me
    See on the portals He’s waiting and watching
    Watching for you and for me

    Come home, come home
    Ye who are weary come home
    Earnestly, tenderly Jesus is calling
    Calling, “O sinner come home”

    O for the wonderful love He has promised
    Promised for you and for me
    Though we have sinned He has mercy and pardon
    Pardon for you and for me

    Come home, come home
    Ye who are weary come home
    Earnestly, tenderly Jesus is calling
    Calling, “O sinner come home”

    Come home, come home (come home)
    Ye who are weary come home
    Earnestly, tenderly Jesus is calling
    Calling, “O sinner come home”

  272. jeff1 says:

    Without Him

    Without Him I could do nothing
    Without Him I?d surely fail
    Without Him I would be drifting
    Like a ship without a sail

    Without Him I would be dying
    Without Him I?d be enslaved
    Without Him life would be worthless
    But with Jesus thank God I’m saved

    Oh Jesus, oh Jesus
    Do you know Him today
    Please don’t turn Him away
    Oh Jesus, my Jesus
    Without Him how lost I would be
    Without Him how lost I would be

  273. poohpity says:

    Songs and the words of scripture are all well and good but do I listen with the intention of practicing what I hear or read? Do I commit my thoughts, actions and speech to God as a humble act of worshiping Him through them?

    Do I show how grateful I am for all that Jesus has done for me by practicing the things He teaches me, do I even know what He teaches? Or do I listen with no intention of following and just live the way I always have with no desire to bring glory to God by my thoughts, words or actions?

    Do I live a reactionary life, my way or one with intention and purpose learning His ways and depending on Him for help to do so?

  274. SFDBWV says:

    Was thinking this morning how there is no humility in criticism, only in the critique of self-examination.

    Steve

  275. poohpity says:

    Do I really humbly trust in God?

    Do I really think I have the power to change another person by my critique or criticism or demanding them to do what I think they need to do or to judge them according to my standards? Is it all about me or do I know and trust God has it all in His hands so therefore I have to only love them and let God do the rest?

    Everything in my life depends on who I trust and depend on! Do I trust God with the evil in the world and do I really believe that returning good for evil works as He says it does?

    Does treating others as better than myself show my trust in God or do I trust what I see and treat others with contempt and belittling because I do not really care about them but want to make myself look good when it is the evil within me that is causing me to act like that?

    For me it ALL comes down to whether I really trust God or myself to think I know better than God does therefore take upon myself to be judge, jury and executioner?

  276. poohpity says:

    Steve, good thoughts this morning.

  277. jeff1 says:

    I am waiting to hear how you have answered your own questions Pooh?

  278. poohpity says:

    Does it really matter how I have answered those questions for myself? Isn’t that between God and I? The most important thing is that I ask myself those questions in the first place isn’t it? Only when I ask myself those questions am I able to admit to my own failures and confess them which slows me down from looking for the failures or faults in others.

  279. poohpity says:

    But to answer your question Viv, Yes I have failed in all those areas, I am guilty. That is why I can, with all hope and faith, praise God for His grace.

  280. Beloved says:

    SFDBWV says:
    September 13, 2019 at 8:02 am
    Was thinking this morning how there is no humility in criticism, only in the critique of self-examination.

    It sometimes takes courage to criticize if led by God to do so. It also takes courage to trust that along with self examination comes grace mercy and forgiveness for a child of God. Just my thoughts and probably my own experiences. When Jesus criticized others He did it knowing Gods heart mind and Spirit and that obedience meant doing the unpleasant but in the long run what was best for them. Opportunity to change their own hearts minds and receive the True Spirit of God as well as eternal Life! I guess there are many nuances to criticism. Thank you Steve for bringing this up. Good to think about. Blessings to you and your family.

  281. Beloved says:

    Forever I remember the very first time I spoke directly to Jesus out loud using His name. It felt strange but good, and every time I say Jesus, our loud, I reassure myself of His sovereignty over my life and the promise of His participation in my little life. Amazing! Most amazing! I love Him. It also still amazes and warms me when He speaks directly to me. He’s real! He’s so real! May He bless you and your family, dear Forever, sister in Christ.

  282. Beloved says:

    Definition of criticism
    1a : the act of criticizing usually unfavorably
    seeking encouragement rather than criticism
    b : a critical observation or remark
    an unfair criticism
    had a minor criticism of the design
    c : CRITIQUE
    2 : the art of evaluating or analyzing works of art or literature
    also : writings expressing such evaluation or analysis
    an anthology of literary criticism
    3 : the scientific investigation of literary documents (such as the Bible) in regard to such matters as origin, text, composition, or history.

  283. poohpity says:

    When has God ever condoned criticism, Steve? It was very different for God(Jesus) to call someone on their behavior because He also knows the very heart behind it while none of us has that ability unless one has a god complex, thinking they know as much as God does and that is just living a lie, self deception and self delusion.

  284. poohpity says:

    I apologize that was the delusion of Beloved who said that not Steve.

  285. poohpity says:

    My Utmost for His Highest by Oswald Chambers;

    Jesus’ instructions with regard to judging others is very simply put; He says, “Don’t.” The average Christian is the most piercingly critical individual known. Criticism is one of the ordinary activities of people, but in the spiritual realm nothing is accomplished by it. The effect of criticism is the dividing up of the strengths of the one being criticized. The Holy Spirit is the only one in the proper position to criticize, and He alone is able to show what is wrong without hurting and wounding. It is impossible to enter into fellowship with God when you are in a critical mood. Criticism serves to make you harsh, vindictive, and cruel, and leaves you with the soothing and flattering idea that you are somehow superior to others. Jesus says that as His disciple you should cultivate a temperament that is never critical. This will not happen quickly but must be developed over a span of time. You must constantly beware of anything that causes you to think of yourself as a superior person.

  286. street says:

    criticism- sitting in the seat of Moses.
    Jesus was not so much a critic as He is light, revealing hypocrisy, even to the point of death on a cross. revealing a love and obedience to God and a Love for sinners. He died to take away sin, my sin and the sin of others! a person rich in self will not come to Him, mendicants do though, like the one who asked Jesus to remember him. Jesus rule is by humble consent of a broken soul that realizes that it has been injured and has been injuring others for a very long time. this grace and mercy is the way forward in Christ or you remain what you have always been in the past. chosen from the foundation of the world comes to mind. some to Salvation some to Condemnation. The Potter and Vine-dresser is at work, even though He has rested from all His works. So glad for a Good Shepard. 23 Psalm

  287. Beloved says:

    This just caught my attention:

    Humility without a trace of hypocrisy.

    That’s what set him apart in the moment of his execution.

  288. Beloved says:

    Who could have imagined a God who would have considered it his honor— to humble himself to the pain, nakedness, and public scorn it took— to show how far he would go to put our interests ahead of his own.

  289. street says:

    i find it interesting that poo troubles my soul and Jesus comforts my soul. this has made all the difference in the world.

  290. Beloved says:

    Jesus rule is by humble consent of a broken soul that realizes that it has been injured and has been injuring others for a very long time. this grace and mercy is the way forward in Christ or you remain what you have always been in the past.

    For me it’s taken years and still not “mastered” my soul but the hope and experience of grace and mercy daily offers the way to keep on keeping on with the challenge. It still astounds me, as I said earlier that Jesus wants me!! I am the most undeserving of beggars.

  291. SFDBWV says:

    One of the singers I like to listen to on “YouTube” is Kate Wolf as she sings “These times we are living in”.

    As she sings this song she is sick with leukemia that will soon take her.

    The reality of life is that we either humbly submit to our fate or fight against it.

    Jesus said in Luke 23:46 KJV “Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit.” Humbly submitting to the will of God.

    In other Gospels it is not recorded as given in Luke, as in John Jesus is recorded as saying “It is finished” in John 19:29 KJV and in Mark 15:34 KJV and in Matthew 27:46 KJV Jesus said “My God, My God why hast thou forsaken me?”

    A more human thing to ask, but I will always believe He simply was pointing to Psalms 22:1-31 KJV so those at His feet would understand why.

    Today has been just as busy as all the others, and Matt and I are about to go to the Pharmacy and grocery store for a quick run. I hope each and every one of you are filled with the Holy Spirit and your day filled with God’s blessings.

    Steve

  292. Beloved says:

    Street @12:19 I couldn’t agree more, which is why I have such peace now since I “ghosted” her. Jesus is my all in all. God bless you also, dear street.

  293. Beloved says:

    Is “fate” the same as Gods will?

  294. Beloved says:

    Troubled soul.

    I’m getting better at reminding myself my soul is deeply broken so not to trust whatever sympathies or hatred it invokes, Satan is master at twisting scripture and knows it well, so knowing Jesus is vital for navigating through this life. In heaven there will be no brokenness only completeness, finally. Looking forward as usual.

  295. Beloved says:

    And redeeming the day!

  296. Beloved says:

    Our murmuring is the devil’s music.

    —Thomas Watson

  297. poohpity says:

    street how can another human being have such power over you that they trouble your soul, when one is troubled that comes from within their own mind and soul not from outside. I am so glad that Jesus brings you peace and with that maybe the next step is to stop blaming others.

  298. poohpity says:

    street, I was thinking about what you said and is it because you do not understand the things I write about? I know you have just begun to read the bible and you said you started in Job and if you want to understand then read the NT and I bet it will clear many things up for you. Not just bits and pieces as you throw about scripture usually but the whole thing.

  299. jeff1 says:

    Pooh doesn’t realize that she has helped me to stop hating my enemies and so I can thank her for being the hypocrite that she is as it makes my enemies look good in comparison.

    They do not claim to know God and so I can understand why they behave as they do.

    Not so with Pooh as her knowledge of God is extensive but if given the choice I would rather face my enemies because as my mum would say better the devil you know than the devil you don’t.

    I have never met anyone like her and I thank God for that as I have had enough struggles in life and now in my latter years am glad to be around people who are kinder.

    Steve I wish I had your strength of character in doing what is right and passing over her comments as I seem to be a devil for punishment in failing to do likewise.

  300. Beloved says:

    All the more reason to turn to Jesus, Viv. Daily and often.

  301. jeff1 says:

    One Day at a Time

    I’m only human, I’m just a man
    Help me believe in what I could be and all that I am
    Show me the stairway
    I have to climb
    Lord for my sake
    Teach me to take
    One day at a time

    One day at a time, sweet Jesus
    That’s all I’m asking from you
    Give me the strength to do everything that I have to do
    Yesterday’s gone sweet Jesus
    And tomorrow may never be mine
    Help me today
    Show me the way
    One day at a time.

    Could you remember
    When you walked among men
    Jesus, you know when you’re looking below
    It’s worse now than then
    Pushin’ and shovin’ crowd in your mind
    Lord for my sake
    Teach me to take
    One day at a time

  302. Beloved says:

    Prayer requested:

    A lady who’s great granddaughter just gave birth to a stillborn boy. This girl arranged to become pregnant by an acquaintance because she “wanted someone to love”. They are not believers . Great grandma is also devastated. Thinking of what this girl must be going through as I also had a stillbirth, it’s devastating. But the LORD got me through even before I knew Him. Praying for a better future with a change of heart only Jesus can do.

  303. jeff1 says:

    Very sad to hear Beloved.

    Those we have held in our arms for a little while, we hold in our hearts forever.

  304. poohpity says:

    Thank you Viv for your critical opinion of me since you know me so well to even think you could offer one. Would you like me to give you my opinion of you? You have a lot of nerve to call me a hypocrite, lol.

  305. poohpity says:

    Have any of you ever read the names you all call me, the judgements, the condemnation, the false accusations and the lies and gossip spread from people who absolutely know nothing what so ever about me.

  306. poohpity says:

    Yes, I read my bible everyday, I go to church every week, I tithe, I serve the homeless, I listen to the broken hearted, I teach bible studies, I pray for many people, I give rides to people who do not have a car, I pay for people who do not have enough money to keep their lights on, I buy shoes for those who do not have any, I feed people I do not know when they are hungry, I have opened my home to people who have no where to live until they could get on their feet and I did not even know them that is the kind of life I live everyday.

    I live that way because I am so grateful for what the Lord has done for me and because I love Him more than life itself. So if you people accuse me of things that are not true it says more about who you are than it does me. I am a child of God and I live like it. I know I am in process so I do not look down on anyone else because there is still much work the Lord still has to do in me so it is not my business what others do but it is my business how I live my life and I live to worship God it may not be perfectly but it is the best I can do.

    So keep calling me names, judging me, criticizing and ganging up on me. I will continue to live my life for the Lord and what you guys say about me is just not true but shows the kind of hearts you have which has nothing to do with me because you were like that way before you ever met me.

  307. jeff1 says:

    I speak as I find Pooh and as far as I am concerned you are as great an enemy to me as those who use bombs and bullets to kill me.

    With them I know why they want to as there is a history behind what they do and I have reflected greatly into it since I became a victim of their onslaught.

    I even understand that from their perspective they are justified in hating not me as an individual but what I stand for as a whole.

    What I cannot understand is how they justify killing people today for atrocities that happened in history when our country is a very different one today then it was back then.

    My mother used to say of people who hold grudges that they go around with a ‘chip on the shoulder’ believing that the world hates them or owes them when she would say ‘naked we come in’ and ‘naked we go out’.

    God has a way of levelling the playing ground for everyone.

    I don’t like people who hold grudges and I don’t care what religious or political side they support because they are set on revenge and not justice and having lived in a country that has come through a religious and political war I see that all too clearly.

    I do know nothing about you other than the comments you make and from them I think you love playing the victim and I have no idea why that is but it is just my opinion and not meant to be a judgment.

    Your opinion of me is that I hold on to hatred and am bitter and your entitled to hold that as I am of you.

    It is true that I was that person when my dad warned me against it but I have lived to see my dad’s words come true and now see his wisdom and so I have learned that God knows best as it was He my dad listened to.

    I have wept before God and He has seen my tears as I have learned to trust Him above all other.

    Crying in the Chapel

    You saw me crying in the chapel
    The tears I shed were tears of joy
    I know the meaning of contentment
    I am happy with the Lord

    Just a plain and simple chapel
    Where all good people go to pray
    I prayed the Lord that I’ll grow stronger
    As I live from day to day

    I searched and I searched but I couldn’t find
    No way on earth to find peace of mind

    Now I’m happy in the chapel
    Where people are of one accord
    Yes, we gather in the chapel
    Just to sing and praise the Lord

    You’ll search and you’ll search but you’ll never find
    No way on earth to find peace of mind

    Take your troubles to the chapel
    Get down on your knees and pray
    Then your burdens will be lighter
    And you’ll surely find a way

  308. Beloved says:

    Good morning, it’s a cool 46F here with a promise of 66 which it harden been for the past week or so. Fall is here, but we’re supposed to have our Indian summer for the next few days with highs in upper 70’s.

    Leaves have started turning colors and my heat is turned on.

    With the cycling of seasons again it makes me think of how Jesus doesn’t change,

    He’s the same yesterday, today and forever. According to Paul.

    What a hope to hold on to in our ever-changing world. Bless the LORD oh my soul, let all that is within me bless His holy name,

  309. Beloved says:

    Harden should be hasn’t been, my Auto correct insisted it be harden no matter how many times I tried to change it. Ahhh technology!?!?!?

  310. poohpity says:

    Again assuming what my opinion is of you which is totally wrong. My opinion of all of you guys is that you are much loved and adored children of God who need Him in your lives just as I do. We are all broken vessels who need the touch of God in our hearts, minds and souls. I love each and every one of you, I hold no grudges but forgive and never consider any of you enemies but people in process of becoming more like Christ on the journey.

    I DO NOT however trust any of you with my heart and know that all your praise goes to those who are liked minded with you and depend on each other for your identity and self worth rather than on what God says about you. I know some of you do not trust God to be loving, kind, compassionate and good but think He is harsh, punishing and controlling but that is not my experience with the God I know and love.

    I am not a victim to any of you because I know who you are. I am a confident, assured and much loved child of God no matter what any one else thinks or says about me. Opinions are like noses and everyone has one, many different shapes and sizes but they belong to the person on who’s face they are found and that has nothing to do with anyone else they were just born with them unless God has touched their heart to change how they see their own noses they will judge everyone else based on how they like their own noses.

  311. Beloved says:

    Oh I did it again, should say “has been”. That was me, not technology. Guess we’re on about equal footing. Only God is good all the time!

  312. Beloved says:

    My sister lives in northern part of Louisiana and says it’s been about 100 there but they have high humidity also. Thinking of Regina and her temps also. Hope her weekend is restful, as with Bubbles also, restful and peaceful in Jesus.

  313. poohpity says:

    Victim’s only become victims if they allow what other’s say or think about them to control how they think and feel about themselves.

  314. poohpity says:

    street, since it troubled you about the bowing down and standing up here is another instance that may make it clearer to you what was said. Read Daniel 3 when the three Jewish men refused to bow down and worship the statue that King Nebuchadnezzar built but would only bow down to their God. Or the times people bowed down to Paul or others with him but he told them to stand up because he was only a man and only bow down and worship God. Hope that helps with what troubles you. Now do you get it?

  315. jeff1 says:

    jeff1 says:
    September 14, 2019 at 6:37 am

    I do know nothing about you other than the comments you make and from them I think you love PLAYING the victim

    I never said that you were as if you read the above sentence correctly I said you loved PLAYING THE VICTIM.

    It has often been other peoples opinion’s of me that has made me examine myself and see that their criticism was correct and so I have grown in understanding from accepting other’s may see flaws in me that I don’t see myself.

    Talking of noses you are just too hard nosed to (stubborn)
    to take another’s opinion on board and that is your choice Pooh but I think it is a foolish but it is certainly your’s to make and no one else’s.

  316. poohpity says:

    So I love playing the victim because I tell you guys that the very things you accuse me of are the very things you are guilty of yourselves? Since when did it become OK to point out the failures or flaws we see in others isn’t that really feeling superior to someone else and putting one’s self in the place of God or a matter of pride?

    Again the name calling. I am stubborn, a hypocrite, a demon because I do not trust the opinions of people who do not know me to give their opinions of me, that sounds rather wise. Who put you on the judgement seat? That is not a spiritual gift it is the work of someone who thinks they are better than others.

  317. poohpity says:

    People who put others down only do it to feel better about themselves.

  318. poohpity says:

    It seems much easier to look at the noses of everyone else and comment on them than to look in the mirror at our own noses and see how imperfect they really are!

  319. jeff1 says:

    I am not on the judgement seat as it is called having an opinion and feeling free to express it.

    Let me see you are stubborn, a hypocrite, a demon and maybe I should add dictator to the list.

    This is not from someone who thinks they are better but from one little demon to another.

    Never said I was perfect Pooh!

  320. jeff1 says:

    Now, do you see why I would rather face my enemies who will kill me with bombs or bullets?

    I am learning that it is not always my enemies that will bring out the worst in me!

    It takes one to know one Pooh so that makes us quits but it is not where I wish to be and I hate myself and not you for allowing the lapse.

    May God strengthen me in my weakness.

  321. Beloved says:

    I’ve been thinking about the angel troubling the waters John talks about. What does troubling have to do with it? I went to John Gill as he speaks more about Jewish thinking. This is what he says:

    Now this angel may represent a minister of the Gospel, for such are called angels, Revelation 1:20 ; being called of God, and sent by him, with messages of grace to the sons of men; and the preaching of the Gospel by such, may be aptly signified by the troubling of the waters, as it is by the shaking of heaven, earth, and sea; see Haggai 2:6 Haggai 2:7 , compared with Hebrews 12:25 Hebrews 12:26 ;

    especially when attended with the Spirit of God, who moved upon the face of the waters in the first creation;

    and who, in and by the ministry of the word, troubles the minds of men, and whilst the prophet prophesies, causes a shaking among the dry bones, which is done at certain seasons;

    for as there are certain seasons for the preaching of the Gospel, so there is more especially a fixed, settled, and appointed one, for the conversion of God’s elect;

    who are called according to purpose, and at the time the Lord has appointed: and whoever now, upon the preaching of the Gospel,

    are enabled to step forth and come to Christ, and believe in him, are cured of all their soul maladies and diseases, be they what they will;

    all their inquiries are pardoned, their persons justified, and they are saved in Christ, with an everlasting salvation: and as this cure was not owing to any natural virtue in the water, nor even to the angels troubling it, but to a supernatural power;

    so the conversion of a sinner is not owing to ministers, and to the word and ordinances as administered by them, but to the superior power of the grace of God; and which is exerted in his time, and on whom he pleases.

  322. SFDBWV says:

    The other afternoon while I was mowing the grass up next to an area I don’t mow, where the grass is higher, I discovered a rather long snake skin. It had shaded its old skin when the new one growing underneath was ready to be exposed.

    It will always be interesting to me why most people are immediately repulsed by snakes, even a lifeless discarded shedding of its skin.

    While I am not the least bit afraid of snakes it still startled me, especially its size. I don’t particularly like snakes, but recognize their place in the order of things in the animal world.

    I let them be and if they want to remain safe and unhurt it is best they let me be.

    A “love and let live” arrangement.

    Of course venomous snakes are especially dangerous and the smart thing to do there is just leave them alone altogether.

    Sad to say the nature of some people could be said to be venomous, and once recognized perhaps the best course of action is to simply avoid them as well.

    Of course the anti-toxin for such people begins with being long suffering followed by forgiveness, but the period in between takes special help from God before immunity to it sets in.

    Believe it or not, over time such venomous people are to be pitied rather than argued with and yes left alone.

    Oh yeah, when a poisonous snake sheds its skin, it is still a poisonous snake underneath.

    I just read an amazing science story on the internet about a neurological study done that shows people don’t really have
    “self-will”. That “Suddenly, peoples choices-even a basic finger tap-appeared to be determined by something outside of their own perceived volition.”

    Very interesting.

    Steve

  323. street says:

    8-11 We don’t want you in the dark, friends, about how hard it was when all this came down on us in Asia province. It was so bad we didn’t think we were going to make it. We felt like we’d been sent to death row, that it was all over for us. As it turned out, it was the best thing that could have happened. Instead of trusting in our own strength or wits to get out of it, we were forced to trust God totally—not a bad idea since he’s the God who raises the dead! And he did it, rescued us from certain doom. And he’ll do it again, rescuing us as many times as we need rescuing. You and your prayers are part of the rescue operation—I don’t want you in the dark about that either. I can see your faces even now, lifted in praise for God’s deliverance of us, a rescue in which your prayers played such a crucial part.

    12-14 Now that the worst is over, we’re pleased we can report that we’ve come out of this with conscience and faith intact, and can face the world—and even more importantly, face you with our heads held high. But it wasn’t by any fancy footwork on our part. It was God who kept us focused on him, uncompromised. Don’t try to read between the lines or look for hidden meanings in this letter. We’re writing plain, unembellished truth, hoping that you’ll now see the whole picture as well as you’ve seen some of the details. We want you to be as proud of us as we are of you when we stand together before our Master Jesus.

  324. Beloved says:

    “Your words were found, and I ate them, and your words became to me a joy and the delight of my heart, for I am called by your name, O Lord, God of hosts.” —Jeremiah 15:16

  325. jeff1 says:

    Need has called us back to You,
    Back to what is always true.
    All we have is only due
    To Your goodness and Your mercy.

    Need has crushed our hearts again,
    Pain we cannot comprehend.
    All our proud delusions end,
    Loving Father, in Your mercy!

    Blind with grief, we ask You why
    Till we see You lifted high,
    Groaning, giving as You die.
    We are silent. Christ, have mercy!

    Need has blessed us once again,
    Love we cannot comprehend.
    Savior, Sovereign, Father, Friend,
    We are resting in Your mercy.

  326. poohpity says:

    Viv, if you realize you are not perfect then why would you want to point out the faults and failures in others? Is it so that you may feel better about your own faults and failures or because it is easier to look at theirs rather than your own? It is NEVER Right or Good to point out the failures or faults we see in others when we can do nothing to help them change, that is just to make them feel bad about themselves in an attempt to dehumanize and abuse them. Isn’t there already enough ugliness in the world without adding to it?

    When have I ever called any of you a name?

  327. Beloved says:

    @11:51,
    the conversion of a sinner is *not* owing to ministers,

    * This word was added incorrectly as I tried to understand it.

  328. Beloved says:

    Thinking the original had been misworded. Sorry Mr Gill

  329. jeff1 says:

    When has the Gospel ever been about being perfect? I grew up with God and run from Him for that very reason I could not keep the 10 commandments which I learned with the creed and the Lord’s prayer when I was confirmed.

    I live in a country where religion has blinded and led people to war because of ignorance of God.

    I am more part of the ugliness than I am the goodness such is life you cannot run with the pack without getting as dirty as they are.

    You cannot understand me anymore than I can understand you but God understands us both such is the mystery, power and majesty of our Lord.

    You brought me to the desert so You could be my water
    You brought me to the fire so You could be my shield
    You brought me to the darkness so You could be my morning light
    If You brought me this far, if You brought me this far

    Wherever you lead me, I know you won’t leave me
    Wherever you call me, You will make a way
    Wherever we’re going, I will be holding
    To the promise you have made
    You will make a way
    You will make a way

    And when I’m in the valley, You will be my comfort
    And when I’m at the end of me, I find You there
    When I’m in the battle, You will be my present peace
    Cause You brought me this far, You brought me this far
    If You brought me this far

    Wherever you lead me, I know you won’t leave me
    Wherever you call me, You will make a way
    Wherever we’re going, I will be holding
    To the promise you have made
    You will make a way
    My God will make a way

    Cause You brought me this far
    You brought me this far
    You brought me this far
    You will make a way

    You brought me this far
    You brought me this far
    You brought me this far
    My God will make a way

    Wherever you lead me, I know you won’t leave me
    Wherever you call me, You will make a way
    Wherever we’re going, I will be holding
    To the promise you have made

    Wherever you lead me, I know you won’t leave me
    Wherever you call me, You will make a way
    Wherever we’re going, I will be holding
    To the promise you have made
    You will make a way
    You will make a way

  330. poohpity says:

    Then stop following the pack and start following Jesus. He shows us a better way. His voice tells us who we are but when we listen to the voice of other sinners they want to direct others to see the worst in us BUT God the voice of truth speaks louder and with love. Which does one listen to the pack of the Lord. I make the choice to listen to the Lord not the pack.

    Oh what I would do to have
    The kind of faith it takes
    To climb out of this boat I’m in
    Onto the crashing waves

    To step out of my comfort zone
    Into the realm of the unknown where Jesus is
    And He’s holding out His hand

    But the waves(pack) are calling out my name
    And they laugh at me
    Reminding me of all the times
    I’ve tried before and failed
    The waves they keep on telling me
    Time and time again. “Boy, you’ll never win!”
    “You’ll never win!”

    But the voice of truth tells me a different story
    The voice of truth says, “Do not be afraid!”
    The voice of truth says, “This is for My glory”
    Out of all the voices calling out to me
    I will choose to listen and believe the voice of truth

    Oh what I would do to have
    The kind of strength it takes to stand before a giant(or go against the pack)
    With just a sling and a stone
    Surrounded by the sound of a thousand warriors
    Shaking in their armor
    Wishing they’d have had the strength to stand

    But the giant’s calling out my name
    And he laughs at me
    Reminding me of all the times
    I’ve tried before and failed
    The giant keeps on telling me
    Time and time again. “Boy you’ll never win!”
    “You’ll never win!”

    But the stone was just the right size
    To put the giant on the ground
    And the waves they don’t seem so high
    From on top of them lookin’ down
    I will soar with the wings of eagles
    When I stop and listen to the sound of Jesus
    Singing over me

    I will choose to listen and believe the voice of truth

  331. poohpity says:

    Peter taught; So get rid of all evil behavior. Be done with all deceit, hypocrisy, jealousy, and all unkind speech. 2 Like newborn babies, you must crave pure spiritual milk so that you will grow into a full experience of salvation. Cry out for this nourishment, 3 “now that you have had a taste of the Lord’s kindness”.

    I am writing to you who share the same precious faith we have. This faith was given to you because of the justice and fairness of Jesus Christ, our God and Savior.

    2 May God give you more and more grace and peace as you grow in your knowledge of God and Jesus our Lord.

    3 By his divine power, God has given us everything we need for living a godly life. We have received all of this by coming to know him, the one who called us to himself by means of his marvelous glory and excellence. 4 And because of his glory and excellence, he has given us great and precious promises. These are the promises that enable you to share his divine nature and escape the world’s corruption caused by human desires.

  332. poohpity says:

    It is human desire and nature to pick out the flaws and failures in people rather than seeing the good in them which would be from a divine nature.

  333. jeff1 says:

    I trust God as I always have and left my failings with Him because the Gospel to me is about Him saving sinners which is what I am.

    I couldn’t keep the 10 commandments when I was confirmed and that hasn’t changed.

    What has changed is that I see Jesus has always loved me and it is knowing that as stopped me running from Him and instead I now run to Him.

    Jesus wants that more than He does me trying to keep rules that in my humanness I fail to do and the consequences of that are I want to run from Him again.

    It isn’t rocket science is it.

  334. SFDBWV says:

    Like many “stories” that pop up on the internet the one yesterday that caught my eye was from “the Atlantic” and was titled “A Famous Argument Against Free Will Has Been Debunked”.

    As I read the article it became immediately obvious that the basics of this story has been around for a long time. However not being a neurologist I actually had not heard of it in the scientific sense.

    The article is 7 pages long as I did print it out in order to study it when I could, so not wanting to repeat the article I will just give some basics to it.

    Two German scientists in 1964 monitored the electrical activity of a dozen people’s brains each day for several months. Each volunteer had only one task while wired up, to flex a finger on their right hand at whatever irregular intervals that pleased them, over and over, for up to 500 time per visit.

    The purpose of the experiment was to search for signals in the participants brains that preceded each finger tap.

    The result is what is called “Bereitschaftspotential”.

    Whereas the brain shows signs of a decision before a person acts, but that the wheels of the brain stars turning before the person consciously intends to do something.

    Suddenly people’s choices, even a basic finger tap, appeared to be determined by something outside of their own perceived volition.

    The argument then being people seem not to have “free will”.

    The article headlined as debunking the idea of no free will ends with no conclusion as there is as yet no proof of any brain activity that initiates the beginning of action.

    Like so many “internet” stories the headline grabs your attention, without any substance to what is implied by it.

    What the study did way back in 1964 is show that there is something unknown that is not physically detectable in how we decide to act. It is a small wonder that such an idea has remained buried in academia for all these years.

    When Matthew was treated and released by the doctors at the University Hospital in Morgantown WV, my complaint about them remains that they had no concept of the human spirit and did not believe in a Holy Spirit.

    This entire article is about an unknown element in the brains function as to how a decision is made to begin the process of the brain carrying out that decision.

    Science still don’t want to acknowledge the fact that people have a spirit and that spirit is not a physical part of their being, but has control of it.

    It is our spirit being that has free will, our physical bodies only carry out the will of our spirits. It is our spirit being that, though not subject to the physical world of creation, is influenced by it, and is connected to that unseen world Jesus tells us about that angels, dominions and powers exist in.

    Joined with the Holy Spirit we are once again reunited with our Creator, whom by all of creation came into existence.

    This same Creator is whom has the humility to do what it takes to reunite us with Him no matter the cost.

    No wonder why it is so hard for us to do the same for others, as most all of us put us first and others second.

    A decision made by our spirits and carried out by our flesh.

    Steve

  335. Beloved says:

    10 mCreate in me a nclean heart, O God,
    and orenew a right1 spirit within me.
    11 pCast me not away from your presence,
    and take not qyour Holy Spirit from me.
    12 Restore to me the joy of your salvation,
    and uphold me with a willing spirit.
    13 Then I will teach transgressors your ways,
    and sinners will rreturn to you.
    14 Deliver me from sbloodguiltiness, O God,
    O tGod of my salvation,
    and umy tongue will sing aloud of your vrighteousness.
    15 O Lord, open my lips,
    and my mouth will declare your praise.
    16 wFor you will not delight in sacrifice, or I would give it;
    you will not be pleased with a burnt offering.
    17 The sacrifices of God are xa broken spirit;
    a broken and contrite heart, O God, you will not despise

  336. jeff1 says:

    O the Deep Deep Love of Jesus

    O the deep, deep love of Jesus, vast unmeasured, boundless, free
    Rolling as a mighty ocean, in its fullness over me
    Underneath me, all around me, is the current of Thy love
    Leading onward, leading homeward to Thy glorious rest above

    O the deep, deep love of Jesus, spread His praise from shore to shore
    How He loveth, ever loveth, changeth never, evermore
    How He watches o’er His loved ones, died to call them all His own
    How for them He intercedeth, watcheth o’er them from the throne

    O the deep, deep love of Jesus, ’tis a heav’n of heav’ns to me
    And it lifts me up to glory, for it lifts me up to Thee, yeah
    [Incomprehensible]

    And it lifts me up to glory

  337. Beloved says:

    The Humility of God

    All gracious affections [feelings, emotions] that are a sweet [aroma] to Christ . . . are brokenhearted affections. A truly Christian love, either to God or men, is a humble brokenhearted love. The desires of the saints, however earnest, are humble desires: their hope is a humble hope; and their joy, even when it is unspeakable, and full of glory, is a humble brokenhearted joy. . . . (Edwards, Religious Affections, 339)

  338. jeff1 says:

    There is someone that I love even though I don’t approve of what he does. There is someone I accept though some of his thoughts and actions revolt me. There is someone I forgive though he hurts the people I love the most. That person is……me.

  339. street says:

    It is human desire and nature to pick out the flaws and failures in people rather than seeing the good in them which would be from a divine nature.

    there is no good in them, therefore the need for a Savior. the human nature is opposed to God, yet made in His image. sure we see failures and sins in others, much more difficult in self. good and right are expected norms, missing the mark, yes everyone notices and they should. if they don’t you have to ask if they are human? new Spirit required to live abundantly, by faith. crucifying the flesh, old self requires a cross and denial and a Leader. many people want the job, but the yoke only rest on One. He makes me lie down in green pastures and leads me beside still waters He restores my soul….

  340. poohpity says:

    What?!?!??!?? Really???

  341. jeff1 says:

    Psalm 23

    A Psalm of David.
    The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want.
    He makes me lie down in green pastures.
    He leads me beside still waters.
    He restores my soul.
    He leads me in paths of righteousness for his name’s sake.
    Even though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death,
    I will fear no evil, for you are with me;
    Your rod and your staff, they comfort me.
    You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies;
    You anoint my head with oil; my cup overflows.
    Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life,
    And I shall dwell in the house of the LORD forever.

  342. street says:

    13 Who among you is wise and understanding? Let him show by his good behavior his deeds in the gentleness of wisdom. 14 But if you have bitter jealousy and selfish ambition in your heart, do not be arrogant and so lie against the truth. 15 This wisdom is not that which comes down from above, but is earthly, natural, demonic. 16 For where jealousy and selfish ambition exist, there is disorder and every evil thing. 17 But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, reasonable, full of mercy and good fruits, unwavering, without hypocrisy. 18 And the seed whose fruit is righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

    James 3:2
    For we all stumble in many ways. If anyone does not stumble in what he says, he is a perfect man, able to bridle the whole body as well.

    thinking about the only Peace Maker.

  343. jeff1 says:

    Great Is Thy Faithfulness

    Great is Thy Faithfulness, O God my Father
    There is no shadow of turning with Thee
    Thou changes not, Thy compassions, they fail not
    As Thou hast been, Thou forever will be

    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Morning by morning new mercies I see
    And all I have needed Thy hand hath provided
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me

    Pardon for sin and a peace that endureth
    And Thine own dear presence to cheer and to guide
    Strength for today and bright hope for tomorrow
    Blessings all amine, with ten thousand beside

    Great is Thy Faithfulness
    Great is Thy Faithfulness
    Morning by morning new mercies I see
    And all I have needed Thy hand hath provided
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me

    And all I have needed Thy hand hath provided
    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Great is Thy faithfulness
    Great is Thy faithfulness, Lord, unto me

  344. poohpity says:

    street said, “thinking about the only Peace Maker.” but since those who have the Spirit of Christ living within them make many “Peace Makers” unless they shirk their responsibility by not following His leading and putting Him on the Throne of our hearts.

    You are not a God, created by human hands
    You are not a God, dependent on any mortal man
    You are not a God, in need of anything we can give
    By Your plan, that’s just the way it is

    You are not a God, created by human hands
    You are not a God, dependent on any mortal man
    You are not a God, in need of anything we can give
    By Your plan, that’s just the way it is

    You are God alone from before time began
    You were on Your throne
    You are God alone and right now
    In the good times and bad
    You are on Your throne
    And you are God alone

    You’re the only God whose power none can contend
    You’re the only God whose name and praise will never end
    You’re the only God who’s worthy of everything we can give
    You are God and that’s just the way it is

    You are God alone from before time began
    You were on Your throne
    You are God alone and right now
    In the good times and bad
    You are on Your throne
    And you are God alone

    Unchangeable, unshakable, unstoppable
    That’s what You are
    Unchangeable, unshakable, unstoppable
    That’s what You are

    You are God alone from before time began
    You were on Your throne
    You are God alone and right now
    In the good times and bad
    You are on Your throne
    And you are God alone

    Unchangeable, unshakable, unstoppable
    That’s what You are

  345. jeff1 says:

    Where Could I Go but to the Lord

    Living below in this old sinful world
    Hardly a comfort can afford
    Striving alone to face temptation so
    Now won’t you tell me

    Where could I go but to the Lord
    Where could I go oh where could I go
    Seeking the refuge for my soul
    Needing a friend to save me in the end
    Won’t you tell me
    Where could I go but to the Lord

    Life here is grand with friends I love so dear
    Comfort I get from God’s own word
    Yet when I face that chilling hand of death
    Won’t you tell me
    Where could I go but to the Lord

    Where could I go but to the Lord
    Where could I go oh where could I go
    Seeking the refuge for my soul
    Needing a friend to save me in the end
    Won’t you tell me
    Where could I go but to the Lord

  346. Beloved says:

    Well, goodbye folks. It’s time to quit blogging. It’s been my pleasure to know you and your struggles as well as joys! May God bless you richly. Joyce

    How lovely is Your dwelling place
    O Lord Almighty
    My soul longs and even faints for You
    For here my heart is satisfied
    Within Your presence
    I sing beneath the shadow of Your wings

    Better is one day in Your courts
    Better is one day in Your house
    Better is one day in Your courts
    Than thousands elsewhere

    Better is one day in Your courts
    Better is one day in Your house
    Better is one day in Your courts
    Than thousands elsewhere

    One thing I ask, and I would seek
    To see Your beauty
    To find You in the place Your glory dwells
    Your glory dwells

    Better is one day in Your courts
    Better is one day in Your house
    Better is one day in Your courts
    Than thousands elsewhere

  347. Beloved says:

    Would love to say hi on facebook. Joyce Brown Bemidji Mn

  348. street says:

    O Lord, my heart is not lifted up,

    my eyes are not raised too high;

    I do not occupy myself with things

    too great and too marvelous for me.

    But I have calmed and quieted my soul,

    like a weaned child with its mother;

    my soul is like the weaned child that is with me.

    O Israel, hope in the Lord

    from this time on and forevermore. Psalm 131

    thinking about these verses and how they relate to

    Romans 3:18
    “There is no fear of God before their eyes.”

    19 Now we know that whatever the Law says, it speaks to those who are under the Law, so that every mouth may be closed and all the world may become accountable to God;

  349. jeff1 says:

    Joyce, it has been a pleasure to know you and I have been encouraged and enlightened in my faith as you have shared your struggles and joys.

    It is often difficult to find friends who do that but you are inspirational in your love for God which reflects in your compassion towards others.

    God bless you and keep you always.

  350. street says:

    ….is the source of the humility he was learning to express.

    and the source of everything else we hope to be.

    The Great I AM, Jesus.

    3 He is the radiance of the glory of God and the exact imprint of his nature, and he upholds the universe by the word of his power.

  351. jeff1 says:

    Our Post Communion Prayer

    The peace of God, which passeth all understanding, keep your hearts and minds in the knowledge and love of God, and of His Son Jesus Christ our Lord: And the blessing of God Almighty, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit, be amongst you and remain with you always.

  352. Walter and Deborah says:

    Humility without a trace of hypocrisy, That is correct as even unto the death of the cross:Philippians 2:8

  353. Walter and Deborah says:

    Philippians 2:8

  354. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Beloved, I hope you may still read this:
    I really loved it to have met you, thanks for having joined!
    And to see that you learned to bless those that disturb your inner peace. To have seen you struggle, just as I have had the same struggle.
    I am praying for the young woman you mentioned, who lost her baby, and for her family.
    May God bless all those you are concerned for, now and in the future. (that is my prayer)

    May God bless you and keep you, and make His face to shine on you, and give you peace.

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