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Salt and Light

According to Matthew, Jesus described his people as the salt and light of the world— after telling them what it would take to make them good in the eyes of heaven (Matthew 5:1-16).

By the time he was done showing what that looked like, he had, at his own expense, taken apart a religious community that proudly stood for the laws and ways of God— in a world— and ways that didn’t.

Looking back, being or claiming to be his followers, sons, or daughters, didn’t make them salt or light. Neither did miracles, eloquence, or claims of God-given authority.

As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.

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205 Responses to “Salt and Light”

  1. poohpity says:

    People “CLAIM” to be many things but the proof of those claims comes out in where a person’s heart really is, shown by their actions and behaviors.

    Faith, trust and dependence in/on God is not a spectator endeavor or one words can satisfy but it is lived out in every area of one’s life. It is not preaching about it but living it.

  2. bratimus says:

    I myself don’t claim to be much, I do claim to be “the Most perfect “NON-perfect human””. I do make mistakes here and there. I am unworthy of God’s Love but God Loves me anyhow. So I trying to live by the ways of God the best I can.

    We walk through a world with many stumbling blocks, traps, and snares. One step at a time carefully in faith, prayer and praise.

    In Christ Jesus name


  3. Beloved says:

    Matthew 5:16 (ESV): 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

    I don’t think we should dwell on ours or others faults so much because as Mart says: As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.

    The definition of “good works” takes on a whole other dimension when it comes from Jesus’s own words. Listening to Him alone, dying to self and the world is His way.

  4. Beloved says:

    When Christ calls a man, he bids him come and die. —Dietrich Bonhoeffer

  5. poohpity says:

    Beloved, what does, “The definition of “good works” takes on a whole other dimension when it comes from Jesus’s own words.” mean?

  6. Beloved says:

    “As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.”

    I’m thinking he’s talking more about our motives rather than just bringing food to a sick neighbor or helping a kid with their homework which many people/organizations can and do for their own rewards of gratitude and praise.

  7. Beloved says:

    By dying to self our motives take on a whole new meaning-Gods way not mine-worldly, sensual deceitful etc.

  8. Beloved says:

    Salt and light draws toward God. Not self.

  9. poohpity says:

    Oooohh! Our motivation is what causes us to bring food to a sick neighbor, helping a kid with their homework, feeding the hungry, giving shelter to the homeless, visiting those in prison, giving a coat or a blanket to someone cold, hugging someone who is hurting, feeding the hungry, taking out the trash for someone. Just as James said, “Faith without good works is dead” or as Jesus said, “whatever you have done for the least of these you have done it for me”(Matt 25) Isn’t loving others an action not a feeling? Motivation is also an action word that means “the reason or reasons one has for acting or behaving in a particular way”.

  10. street says:

    Salt and Light
    in a world of darkness chaos and coldness, i did not expect humility, kindness, faithfulness, peace, or love.

  11. poohpity says:

    Salt can loose it saltiness and a light hidden under a basket gives no light. Action is required when the love of God within us comes pouring out towards others.

  12. poohpity says:

    God is our motivation to be His hands and feet towards others.

  13. poohpity says:

    Do Something
    by Matthew West

    I woke up this morning
    Saw a world full of trouble now, thought
    How’d we ever get so far down, and
    How’s it ever gonna turn around

    So I turned my eyes to Heaven
    I thought, “God, why don’t You do something?”
    Well, I just couldn’t bear the thought of
    People living in poverty
    Children sold into slavery
    The thought disgusted me

    So, I shook my fist at Heaven
    Said, “God, why don’t You do something?”
    He said, “I did, yeah, I created you” (now listen)

    If not us, then who
    If not me and you
    Right now, it’s time for us to do something, yeah
    If not now, then when
    Will we see an end
    To all this pain
    Oh, it’s not enough to do nothing
    It’s time for us to do something

    I’m so tired of talking about
    How we are God’s hands and feet
    But it’s easier to say than to be
    Live like angels of apathy who tell ourselves
    It’s alright, “somebody else will do something”
    Well, I don’t know about you
    But I’m sick and tired of life with no desire
    I don’t want a flame, I want a fire and
    I wanna be the one who stands up and says
    “I’m gonna do something”

    If not us, then who
    If not me and you
    Right now, it’s time for us to do something, yes it is, come on
    If not now, then when
    Will we see an end
    To all this pain
    Oh oh, it’s not enough to do nothing
    It’s time for us to do something

    We are the salt of the earth
    We are a city on a hill
    We’re never gonna change the world
    By standing still
    No, we won’t stand still
    No, we won’t stand still
    No, we won’t stand still

    If not us, then who
    If not me and you
    Right now
    It’s time for us to do something
    If not now, then when
    Will we see an end
    To all this pain
    It’s not enough to do nothing
    It’s time for us to do something
    It’s time for us to do something
    It’s time for us to do something

  14. Beloved says:

    Beloved says:
    November 26, 2019 at 8:42 am

    PLEASE disregard my earlier post as noted. I have a really really bad habit of not listening/understanding well. Sorry for the mess I started…. Hope the day is better for all!

  15. jeff1 says:

    Always do your best and let God do the rest. I’m human, I’ll fail at times to be as charitable as I know I should be but forgive yourself as God wants you to.

    Don’t let others influence you by their criticism of you for being charitable but don’t fall out with them either.

    Be kind in everyday dealings with all people and you cannot go far wrong.

    The more you try the easier it gets so that eventually it’s second nature to be the kind, good natured, gentle person God wants you to be.

    Knowing you are pleasing God is your motivation because you may not always find people grateful for the efforts you make.

  16. street says:

    By the time he was done…

    at his own expense…..

    taken apart a religious community ……

    what would make his people good …….

    willingness to live and die for a chance to love like He did.

    you must be born again. a Holy Spirit.

  17. foreverblessed says:

    True, born of the Holy Spirit.

    And the effect will be:
    “humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.”

    Oswald Chambers talks a lot of our focus:
    ( But he teaches missionaries, those send out in far and lonely places)
    It should be on Jesus, and not on the need of the world.
    If we focus on the needs of people, we Will get worn out.
    Being the hands and feet of Jesus, means we are attached to a Body, and the hands do what procedes out of the Head, that is Christ.

    When we focus on Jesus, our inner heart will be changed.
    “Look to Me, and be saved” Isaiah 45:22

    In my village, ( that is attached to a city, being build closer and closer with houses) many catholic women are being the hands and feet of Christ, and they are humble….
    But their focus is the needs of people, they lack the spiritual attachment to Jesus, the Source of their power.
    My heart goes out to them.
    ( So I pray, intercessory prayer, dear Lord, touch their hearts)
    One lady in my church, who was like that, hands and feet of Jesus, strongly reacts when we talk about being the hand and feet. It took a long time to find out why she was so antagonistic, till she talked about that she had been like that, being a loyal and humble catholic woman. But totally worn out by all the needs of people around her.
    When she truely found Jesus, like Mary in the Garden of Easter: “Rabboeni”
    She sits at His feet, her eyes on Him, and waiting clear instructions from the Spirit.

  18. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning BTA, I really don’t have the energy or time to devote much to BTA, but like all of Mart’s thoughts there is an open doorway to actual thinking and subject direction with this and many other subjects.

    A question that will ultimately come up within theology is whether or not God is capable of making mistakes or failure?

    It is written that God created everything that exists by and through The Son.

    God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed life into him and placed him in a paradise.

    Man failed to live up to God’s standards.

    Was man’s failure a failure of God to equip him not to fail? To protect him from it?

    Or was man’s failure the beginning point of showing his need for a savior?

    God killed off every living thing upon the earth except those He placed in a place of safety and started over again. But this time with failure the cause of all the misery upon the earth.

    God created a people through whom He would be reintroduced as God through.

    Did they fail in their duty? You know God by their unfailing devotion to the Law as written and given yet today in your Bible.

    Everyone would agree that no one could live up to the law except the Christ.

    Is that man’s failure, or God’s plan?

    Jesus through whom all the nations of the earth are blessed came through these same special people God bred for His purpose.

    So the whole world is blessed through these people. Something of their doing, or a means by which God brought the Messiah into the world?

    The messages of the Sermon on the Mount once again shows man’s inability to live up to God’s standard and just as in the beginning still in need of a Savior.

    Are the failure of mankind the failures of God or His plan to introduce Himself as loving His creation enough to do all for their eternal safety?

    Salt and light… Without light you cannot see and without salt there is no flavor.

    Have a nice day and be blessed in all you do.


  19. poohpity says:

    First, God did not create everything through His Son but by His spoken Word. Example Genesis 1:3 “God SAID, ‘Let there be light’, and there was light. (Psalm 33:6,9) All things were made through God as John was introducing Jesus in John 1 He was making sure that people realized exactly who Jesus is, fully God and fully man. John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

    Second, as far as those “who actually think” but have no faith it all seems confusing and hard to understand but those who think and reason through faith it is awe inspiring, majestic and glorious that a God who created us, gave us the ability to think for ourselves and make mistakes and have failures even though He told us how to live rightly but people chose to do things their own way which lead to all the muck we see around us.

    If God had not given us the ability to think for ourselves then there would be no choices, He would have created little robots that do not have the ability to love but only to obey and yes He could have done that, no brain needed but instead He created beings that can either reject Him or embrace Him. No one can force anyone to want them it has to be by choice.

    The failures of mankind are not the failures of God, it would seem if He had the choice He would have provided everything we needed at our finger tips and even have Him walking and talking with us but rather mankind made “the choice”(thinking) to ignore God in hopes of being god.

    It could be since God created us in their likeness which would include emotions and God did have regret, sadness over the way that His creation decided to go to, walking away from His best for us(love) to do things our own way it would make me sad or regret too because I have just a peek into that being a parent. I would love to be able to make my children do what will not cause them harm but that would deny them the ability to think for themselves and learn from the mistakes they make rather than me being a dictator and telling them how to think and act not using their brains for anything but how their body works.

    The wisdom of God in how He has done all that we see around us and every part of His wondrous creation takes my breath away in adoration. I choose love, I chose God! That is where my best thinking ever took me.

  20. jeff1 says:

    As someone who suffered a ‘mental breakdown’ the scars of which are still with me I can say that it was trying to please everyone and in the end pleasing no one that led me to the darkest days of my life.

    To this day I tend to become overwhelmed when faced with the needs of others and it has a detrimental effect on my mental well being.

    As I see it there are questions that only God can answer and for myself I am quite relieved that this is so because I have not done very well in following His example but rather got caught up in my religion and a religious war that has left me with more questions than answers.

    I tend to think therefor that it is the failures of religions that have led to the failures of mankind which led to suffering not intended by God and so not part of God’s plan.

    God knew where it would lead and so I hope it is not wishful thinking on my part to believe that God not only as went before us but He also comes after us in righting the wrongs I have so often made in both my negligence and ignorance of Him.

    1 Immortal, invisible, God only wise,
    in light inaccessible hid from our eyes,
    most blessed, most glorious, the Ancient of Days,
    Almighty, victorious, Thy great name we praise.

    2 Unresting, unhasting, and silent as light,
    nor wanting, nor wasting, Thou rulest in might;
    Thy justice, like mountains, high soaring above
    Thy clouds, which are fountains of goodness and love.

    3 To all, life Thou givest, to both great and small,
    in all life Thou livest, the true life of all;
    we blossom and flourish as leaves on the tree,
    and wither and perish, but naught changeth Thee.

    4 Great Father of glory, pure Father of light,
    Thine angels adore Thee, all veiling their sight;
    all praise we would render, O help us to see
    ’tis only the splendor of light hideth Thee!

  21. poohpity says:

    I wonder if one ever takes into consideration the thought that God never gives us something to do that He does not help us do it?

    As the disciples looked at the crowd of 5,000 plus to feed as they looked at themselves thought we can never accomplish this but Jesus told them just bring to me what you have and watch me multiply it. Everyone ate their fill and there were leftovers because of what Jesus can do. I do not believe that He ever gives us more than we can handle.

    One glass of water to a thirsty person, one hug to a down cast person, one prayer lifted up in the name of Jesus, one kind word, one thoughtful action, one smile, one set of listening ears Jesus can multiply the effects to show how He cares for each person.

    Being overwhelmed by all the needs around us is the devil’s way of getting us to do nothing. Deterred from taking just one little baby step because it would seem it comes down to who will notice what “I” have done and give me the praise but it seems to God every little tiny good thing we do in His name brings praise to Him.

    How do we travel a long journey? One step at a time.

  22. Beloved says:

    Salt and light
    Priests and Kings Unto God
    Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord.

    Zechariah 3:10
    In Joshua the high priest we see a picture of each and every child of God, who has been brought near by the blood of Christ and has been taught to minister in holy things and enter into that which is within the veil. Jesus has made us priests and kings unto God, and even here upon earth we exercise the priesthood of consecrated living and hallowed service.

    But this high priest is said to be “standing before the angel of the LORD,” that is, standing to minister. This should be the perpetual position of every true believer.

    Every place is now God’s temple, and His people can serve Him just as truly at work as in His house. They should always be ministering, offering the spiritual sacrifice of prayer and praise, and presenting themselves “a living sacrifice.”1

    But notice where Joshua stands to minister–it is before the angel of Jehovah. It is only through a mediator that we poor, defiled ones can ever become priests to God.

    I present what I have before the messenger, the angel of the covenant, the Lord Jesus; and through Him my prayers find acceptance wrapped up in His prayers; my praises become sweet as they are bound up with bundles of fragrant spices from Christ’s own garden.

    If I can bring Him nothing but my tears, He will put them with His own tears in His own bottle, for He once wept; if I can bring Him nothing but my groans and sighs, He will accept these as an acceptable sacrifice, for He once was broken in heart and sighed heavily in spirit. I myself, standing in Him, am accepted in the Beloved; and all my polluted works, though in themselves only objects of divine displeasure, are so received that God smells a sweet savor. He is content, and I am blessed. Consider, then, the position of the Christian–“a priest . . . standing before the angel of the LORD.”

    1) Romans 12:1
    TRUTH FOR LIFE Spurgeon

  23. Beloved says:

    Thinking of the Holy Spirit a lot lately as someone said we should pray for others that God would give them the Spirit. Now, it makes sense as without the Spirit there’s no power to do what is right and good, salty and light infused. Without me you can do nothing, Jesus said.

    I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.John 15:5

    Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you.John 16:7

  24. jeff1 says:

    The High Priestly Prayer

    17 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

    6 “I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. 7 Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. 8 For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. 9 I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them. 11 And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I am coming to you, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one.1 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sake I consecrate myself,3 that they also may be sanctified in truth.

    20 “I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in vus, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, 23 I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me. 24 Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, even though the world does not know you, I know you, and these know that you have sent me. 26 I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”

  25. Beloved says:

    Salt and light

    Sad reality here
    2 Corinthians 4:4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

  26. Beloved says:

    I Cor 3

    For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness”; 20and again, “The LORD knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”

  27. Beloved says:

    Since many here are gearing up for Thanksgiving I thought I would share what is encouraging me today:
    1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

    16 Rejoice always,

    17 pray without ceasing,

    18 give thanks in all circumstances;

    for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

    Happy Thankful Thanksgiving! No matter the circumstances!

  28. jeff1 says:

    Give thanks to God, for He is good.
    His love endures forever.
    Give praise to Him, the Lord of Lords.
    His love endures forever.
    He spread the earth and sea and sky.
    He filled them all with light and life.
    May God alone be lifted high!
    His love endures forever.

    Give thanks to God, for He is good.
    His love endures forever.
    He brought us out from sin and death.
    His love endures forever.
    He stood and stretched His mighty hand.
    He bowed Himself, became a man –
    A gulf that only love could span.
    His love endures forever.

    Give thanks to God, for He is good.
    His love endures forever.
    We join the song that never ends:
    His love endures forever.
    Praise God, from whom all blessings flow!
    Praise Him, all creatures here below!
    Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!
    His love endures forever.

  29. foreverblessed says:

    So be it
    His love endures forever!

    Col 3:12
    Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.

    While James says: if you miss any of these things, ( mentioned above) ASK for them.
    James 1:2-8
    So clothe yourself is humbly asking God to give that to you.
    That took me quite some years to find that out, I thought I had to put on these clothes myself! Working hard…
    But God is merciful, He opened my eyes to see Grace:
    Looking up to Jesus, in faith!
    He will do it in us, by His Spirit,
    So true Beloved!

    Jesus had to go, so the Spirit would come.

    Steve I Amsterdam praying for you and yours, and for Beloved, without medicine, and for Jeff, her troubles.
    Thank you Bratimus for all your prayers.

  30. jeff1 says:

    Thank you Forever.

  31. Beloved says:

    Viv I have always loved Jesus praying for me! To think He wants all believers, past present and future conformed to His image like the family of God we are is so beautiful. And an especially encouraging word for me right now.


    Forever thank you for the very kind words, God heard your prayer!

    It’s been 3 months or so and finally the withdrawal is over. It’s so good to be able to weep when needed and instead of feeling despair I go to God immediately and pray. I’m praying much more these days which is good. I have lots of time. God has given me a ” job” I can do, it seems I’m the go to for cell phone problems in my building! Funny. Our government gives free phones to low income people but most of them are over 65 and never even been on the internet, texted tweeted or received any kind of “notification” which they have no clue about. They just want to talk, that’s all! Anyway, I’m doing ok and thank you so much for praying and telling me! So helpful to know you bring me before the throne, just like Jesus! Precious it is to me.

    Blessings and love to you both because of Jesus! He makes me kind and loving, nothing about me was until I met Him.

  32. Beloved says:

    Others here that pray I say thank you very much! So much to be thankful for!

  33. Beloved says:

    viv you mentioned trying to please others. I admit I sometimes avoid intimate conversation with God by just getting busy and doing something, anything. I guess I’m still amazed He loves me so completely since I turned to Him for salvation 40 years ago now. I have to remind myself sometimes my sins are forgiven because of Jesus and forgotten! Completely! God would never bring them up to me, never! The battle is real, here on earth. Oh how I look forward to eternity! Can’t come too soon, come LORD Jesus.

  34. foreverblessed says:

    The word of OC helped me greatly:
    We get discernment
    For intercessory prayer!
    Not for judging

    Steve, I Amsterdam praying for you

    I Am praying for you.

    We had a big sign in Amsterdam, huge red letters, saying:

    () being a big red heart.
    It was on the Museum Square, always full of tourists making pictures in front of it.
    It attracted too many tourists. When we got a new major one of the first things she did was taking that sign away.
    Also with the note: I AM was too individualistic:
    We are Amsterdam
    is showing met: being collective.
    But that doesn’t make a nice sign.

    Amsterdam is moaning under all the visitors, the local people are.
    But Amsterdam itself needs lots of prayer
    Lord, see the drugscene, Lord forgive
    See the sexual slavery, Lord have mercy
    See the greed, Lord forgive

  35. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks Jeff, for that Priestly Prayer!!!

    And thanks, Beloved, for the Messenger of the Covenant:
    Jesus Christ!

    (Having problems posting on the site.)

  36. jeff1 says:

    Beloved, I have to feel useful or I feel guilty and so I tend to take on too much and then get overwhelmed and fail others.

    It is what caused my mental breakdown as I tried to juggle a job, bringing up children and looking after the home. My husband was not a family man so he did his own thing and if it where not for my dad and other members of my family I don’t know how I would have managed.

    My sons are adults but carry scars from a lack of a father in their lives and that causes me distress.

    I am also now trying to give some support to their dad as they are both away and I feel it is my place in their absence as he is now suffering from dementia.

    I spent more time running from God than trusting Him and I believe it was my breakdown that brought me closer to Him.

    I am now much better at talking to God than I am at talking to others which is what strengthens me.

    My church is the one I attended from childhood and it has always been a Christ focused church so when I participate in Holy Communion it brings it home to me that I sin but I believe this is also a good reminder for me that I need Jesus to forgive my sins and that stops me when I would otherwise be judgemental or unsympathetic towards others.

    My dad was a great example for me as through the troubles when we were all playing God he was focused on Christ and I noticed that he didn’t become judgemental but stayed grounded in God’s truths and at a time of hatred, violence and conflict that took discipline which I now see was God given rather than man driven.

    The battles we face does test our faith and from my own experiences I have either run from or run to God and that was because when I didn’t understand why God did what He did I was angry with Him.

    In time God has revealed truths to me that show me it is either my negligence or my ignorance of Him that is to blame.

    That says to me that I can trust God but not so much on my own understanding because there is so many things I do not understand.

    Thank you for your comments have enlightened and encouraged at times when I needed it.

    The miraculous work of God and so very hard to get my head around.

  37. poohpity says:

    Praise God, from whom all blessings flow;
    Praise Him, all creatures here below;
    Praise Him above, ye heav’nly host;
    Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!

    Praise God the Father who’s the source;
    Praise God the Son who is the course;
    Praise God the Spirit who’s the flow;
    Praise God, our portion here below!

    For me thanksgiving is something that if I do daily reminds me of all the blessings that I really have because there are times when I take God, the source, for granted and feel entitled. “God blesses those who are poor in spirit and realize their need for Him, for the Kingdom of God is theirs.”

  38. bubbles says:

    I have met some wonderful friends here. This blog has changed and is not the same place it used to be. It has dwindled down to a few and every post becomes a know down drag out argument. Mart speaks of humility and peace and there is none here. It used to be an encouragement to me and now it hurts my heart. I’m just done. I don’t need more strife. I do no understand why it has been allowed to go on. If this was a church and a couple of members constantly created strife, I think something would be done about it. I’m done.

  39. Beloved says:

    Dear bubbles I hear you and am sorry. I’ll try better, I promise. I’ve felt the same, usually blaming others for my own sinful reactions. I will try harder to keep peace. Thanks, Joyce

  40. Beloved says:


    Be thankful in all things, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus

    I am so so VERY thankful for ALL of you! Yes we fight and bicker and are so different in our modes of worship cultures and genders even, yet we ARE the broken Body of Christ here made whole and sanctified by our most gracious merciful and loving Creator. I give Him thanks for today yesterday and tomorrow. And especially for loving concerns troubles and sorrows. Today is the day that the LORD has made, I will rejoice and be glad in it!

  41. Beloved says:

    I just remembered that it’s Gods kindness that leads us to repentance!

  42. poohpity says:

    bubbles, I guess it would be best and right for each one to consider their own contributions rather than always looking at where others are failing or at fault since we are responsible to God for our own actions not those of others. What have you added that would be considered kind, merciful, compassionate, loving and grace filled or even what the topic is about??

  43. Beloved says:

    ◄ 2 Corinthians 4:17 NLT
    For our present troubles are small and won’t last very long. Yet they produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will last forever!

    I’ve been praising and thanking God all day for troubles and blessings; Giving thanks in all things for this is the will of God. Sometimes we have to do something that we don’t have feelings to do, like praise, forgive, give thanks etc. God blesses our obedience to Him. Always!

  44. Beloved says:

    As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.

    A M E N. M A R T !

  45. jeff1 says:

    “Try A Little Kindness”

    If you see your brother standing by the road
    With a heavy load from the seeds he sowed
    And if you see your sister falling by the way
    Just stop and say you’re going’ the wrong way
    You’ve got to try a little kindness yes show a little kindness
    Yes shine your light for everyone to see
    And if you’ll try a little kindness and you’ll overlook the blindness
    Of the narrow minded people on the narrow minded streets

    Don’t walk around the down and out lend a helping hand instead of doubt
    And the kindness that you show every day will help someone along their way
    You’ve got to try a little kindness…
    You’ve got to try a little kindness…

  46. poohpity says:

    A rare event took place this morning my phone sounded an alert of a tornado in our area. Who would have thought? We have dust storms, floods and Haboobs but a tornado. Those things touchdown for a moment and cause such damage, then are gone. I can see so many spiritual implications of that.

    Make a great day everyone enjoying those things and people you have around today, in the here and now, praising God for who He is and the blessing He gives each of us which can be in the storms of life as well. Romans 8:28

  47. poohpity says:

    Just read ODB for today wow it sure does fit with this topic!

  48. Beloved says:

    Reflect & Pray
    Why do our words have such a powerful effect on others? How might God want to change your speech?

    Dear God, help me to see how my words affect other people. Show me how to encourage them.

  49. Beloved says:

    Being salt and light this message by Spurgeon today is so good for us ALL! We ALL need this reminder from time to time.

    Approaching Rebuke
    You shall not go around as a slanderer among your people. . . . You shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him.

    Leviticus 19:16-17
    Slander emits a threefold poison, for it injures the teller, the hearer, and the person who is being slandered. Whether the report is true or false, we are by this precept of God’s Word forbidden to spread it.

    The reputations of the Lord’s people should be very precious in our sight, and we should regard it as shameful to help the devil dishonor the church and the name of the Lord. Some tongues need a bridle rather than a spur.

    Many rejoice in putting down their brothers and sisters, as if in doing so they raised themselves. Noah’s wise sons cast a covering over their father, and the one who exposed him earned a fearful curse.

    We may ourselves one of these dark days need leniency and silence from our family; let us offer it cheerfully to those who require it now. Let this be our family motto, and our personal bond: Speak evil of no man.

    The Holy Spirit, however, permits us to censure sin and prescribes the way in which we are to do it. It must be done by rebuking our brother to his face, not by talking behind his back.

    This approach is manly, brotherly, Christlike, and under God’s blessing will be useful.

    Do we shy away from it? Then we must lay the greater stress upon our conscience and commit ourselves to the responsibility, in case by tolerating sin in our friend we become partakers of it.

    Hundreds have been saved from gross sins by the timely, wise, affectionate warnings of faithful friends and family. Our Lord Jesus has set us a gracious example of how to deal with erring friends in His warning given to Peter, the prayer with which He preceded it, and the gentle way in which He endured Peter’s boastful denial that he needed such a caution.

  50. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, Bubbles, that is a problem here, there seems to be no moderator that steps in. So when you join here, you ought to have a body of believers around you, who can pray for you.
    Or as Mart wrote: pray for those who bully you:

    “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”

    That is the work the Holy Spirit will accomplish in us, if we kill with Jesus’ help the evil antagonistic spirit within us, that wells up in us when we feel wrongly accused.

    There are other sites on our daily bread ministeries, with lovely blogs at the end, uplifting, encouraging.

    My Utmost today:
    “….Jesus said, “…when He, the Spirit of truth, has come,…He will glorify Me…” (John 16:13-14). When I commit myself to the revealed truth of the New Testament, I receive from God the gift of the Holy Spirit, who then begins interpreting to me what Jesus did. The Spirit of God does in me internally all that Jesus Christ did for me externally.”

    I have to vacuümclean the house.
    Be blessed today, praying for you Beloved.
    (I have written about stopping to use medicine myself, 10 years ago. I couldn’t post it, let’s see if I can find it. Saved somewhere.)

  51. Beloved says:

    Thank you Forever your prayers are precious to me you made me smile:-) which feels so good!

    Here is the Peter reference Spurgeon was talking about:
    Jesus Predicts Peter’s Denial
    (Matthew 26:31-35; Mark 14:27-31; John 13:36-38)
    31Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift each of you like wheat. 32But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith will not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”

    33“Lord,” said Peter, “I am ready to go with You even to prison and to death.”

    34But Jesus replied, “I tell you, Peter, the rooster will not crow today until you have denied three times that you know Me.”

  52. foreverblessed says:

    ( found, I could save it, when posting was impossible)

    God bless you Beloved, and everybody here.
    I have used medicine for migraine. 10 years ago I started. From one type of medicine to another. They helped 3 months, and then I had to proceed to the next level.
    Till I came to the Beta blockers.
    That was a strange encounter: my feeling went numb!!!

    And another effect: I had that selfsame day, the first day I used them, heart rythm problems. They never had been so severe.

    That was an easy decision:
    I could cope with two days headache in two weeks, Just being alone with God, seeking Him only. I saw it as a training.
    But without these medicines.
    I would rather chose that, instead of the bad side effects of that medicine.
    As a side-note: This is just to share my story. As I am well aware that stopping medicine against migraine is not a dangerous decision. And not an example to follow when coping with other illnesses.

  53. Beloved says:

    I just had an aha moment. O Chambers talked about becoming shallow in our faith, I think it means to not take offense so easily but to give praise and thanks in every situation; even on a seemingly unmonitored (by humans) blog, but surely monitored by the Holy Spirit within each of us. Sometimes I find myself waiting on God longer than I think He should take, silly, He is sovereign and I am NOT. I repent.

  54. foreverblessed says:

    Hello Beloved, we are here at the same time!
    It is 17.00 here, and it is vettige dark!
    Oh ths dark times before Christmas, dark, as outside weather being darke.
    May God shine with the Light of Christ in our hearts!

    Spurgeon says: we must speak out face to face! In a spirit of love.
    I guess: Jesus was harsh for the Pharasees, yet loved thema so deerlye that He was willing to die for them.
    In THAT spirit of love, which only comes from God.
    But on this site there is no backup from uitgereden up.
    So I just bless and pray.
    Intercessory prayer!

  55. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, that is it: take your offense to Jesus, He carries it on the Cross.
    But boy, what a long way till we learn that!

    But if that does not go well yet, it is better to quit here.
    And getting strong in Jesus somewhere else.

    (It is getting dark here, not heftige dark….)

  56. SFDBWV says:

    Too much salt and living things cannot survive, too much light is blinding.

    Just the right amount gives flavor and sight.

    No one anywhere likes to be told how to think or how they should feel.

    The very first Psalm advises not to sit in the seat of the “scornful”.

    The written Word being inspired by the one and “only” God gives us timeless advice as to how we should live among and interact with others.

    Prophets were empowered and anointed by God to specifically speak for Him.

    I have observed in life that when we deviate from His advice, example and urging we cause more damage than assistance to another.

    Being able to recognize good behavior from bad is a protective measure instilled in us from our creation.

    If by our words, deeds or actions our only accomplishment is offending another, then perhaps we should remain silent and meditate upon how to change discouragement into encouragement, hard feelings into tender feelings and bitterness into sweetness.

    I learned in life long ago that you cannot make a drunkard ashamed of being a drunkard by telling them they are wasting their lives and in a place of self-destruction. They actually feed upon such negative commentary addressed to them.

    Our problem here on BTA is twofold, the person who causes problems and the person who allows it.

    Sorry that is just the truth. We all know it and carefully avoid saying it, but it hasn’t helped to be bold or silent. Nothing has changed as we continue to dwindle down to the few we are.

    Not wanting to sound scornful, only an appeal to hopefully cleanse/heal our association and grow in Christ instead of watching BTA die a slow and ugly death.

    Matt continues to heal well and enjoyed his Thanksgiving meal yesterday. Thank you all for your continued prayers and support.


  57. Beloved says:

    Forever it is 11am here, just getting going with household chores. No sun with a snow storm on the horizon with possibly 8-12 inches of snow. It usually comes on the lighter side though being on the continental divide. Have a good nights rest.

  58. Beloved says:

    My posts display an hour later than real-time, time change I guess here.

  59. poohpity says:

    From my observations the blog started down hill when the very first guideline was not followed which was #1 Stay on topic but people thought they new better and went off in many directions which was what had caused many to stop. Then there were was picking winners and losers and not respectfully agreeing to disagreeing with kindness and grace which the other guidelines covered which are the same one’s that ODB has for their comment guidelines.

    At one time there were moderators on here but the problems it seemed became overwhelming so rather than stop the blog entirely just pulled away from the ODB ministries. He made several comments and still does but they fall on deaf ears it seems because people feel he is making them towards others, if one even understands what he is saying, and not the one reading it.

    Just think if everyone left on here were to judge and critically hear their own responses and comments rather than those of others how much of a difference that would make but blame and finger pointing is the norm instead.

    People even say slanderous things towards Mart, go figure and this is his blog. He is the leader here.

    Now I thought the comments were going along well when we were talking about the topic until one person threw a wrench in the works now here we are back again talking about others and how much that one person is ruining this blog when in reality it may just be those who are accusing that are the real problems.

  60. Beloved says:

    I remember years ago Maru musing that maybe this is a place for some who need a special place to grow in their sanctification. I’ve never forgotten that. So graceful. Street also said when he first came that this is a good place to grow. I keep that in mind also. Oh the sovereignty of God! Gotta love it! Amen!

  61. street says:

    From my observations the blog started down hill when the very first guideline was not followed which was #1 Stay on topic but people thought they new better and went off in many directions which was what had caused many to stop.

    this reminds me of the first few chapters of Romans, how the law, as good as it was, was powerless to save us.

  62. street says:

    No one anywhere likes to be told how to think or how they should feel.

    or what to do!

    He makes me lay down in green pastures.

    Our problem here on BTA is twofold, the person who causes problems and the person who allows it.

    thinking of God creating satan. seems like the adversity and the hurdles before us are made by God too. thinking of job, the righteous one.

    thinking of job noah and daniel. the clean up batters in God’s line up. then we see the judges the kings and the prophets. then finally His Son and His Apostles. salt and light in a world of darkness and tastelessness. the light shines brightest with the backdrop of darkness. some day the darkness will be completely removed.

    as for being silent….that can hurt you too…..thinking of the watchman in Ezekiel. the hard part is loving those you serve. may God uphold you and strengthen you steve.

  63. street says:

    Yes, Bubbles, that is a problem here, there seems to be no moderator that steps in. So when you join here, you ought to have a body of believers around you, who can pray for you.

    is the Holy Spirit chopped liver or a moderator?

    do we control the Holy Spirit or does the Holy Spirit control us? seems to me there should be salt and light here. i do love the personalities here and the conflict. don’t think there is growth without it. even if it is slow sometimes and repetitive, yet i believe it is liner too.

    Luke 11:13
    If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”

    if we have the Holy Spirit in all believers, how now should we live? you might want to take that up with the Son of God, Jesus.

    you call me Lord, but don’t do what I say?

    thinking…..For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him;
    If we endure, we will also reign with Him;
    If we will deny Him, He also will deny us;
    If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

  64. foreverblessed says:

    You have said that before, Street, that the Holy Spirit is the Moderator….
    If that is so, why would Jesus give instructions what to do when you have been mistreated?
    In Matthew 18:15-19
    There seems to be a church discipline!

  65. jeff1 says:

    Father, Father,
    Holy and loving,
    Forgive, forgive.
    Father, Father,
    I am unworthy,
    Forgive, forgive.

    You know my thoughts,
    My anxiousness and pride.
    You hear my words,
    So careless and unkind.

    Create in me
    A heart that’s clean and new.
    Restore my love,
    And let me walk with You.

  66. foreverblessed says:

    My utmost today
    ” For the Grace of God I am who I am”

    1 Kor 15:10

    Paul had been a very violent man.
    The Word: “Without God all things are possible”
    are very true in Paul’s life.
    If we keep our eyes on Jesus, take all our frustration to Him, and leave them at the foot of the Cross.
    But boy, that is done in discipline, going again and again.
    So Bubbles, take your frustration to the Cross, otherwise, notify Mart himself, but writing it here only gives more fuel to the fire, someone concluding: see how they hate me.

    But the sitting at the Cross, takes time, sit there and ask for peace, calmness, self-control.

    Wait upon the Lord
    Psalm 27:14
    Well, at least that is what I am learning here.

  67. poohpity says:

    forever let me ask you one question, is it a sin to disagree with someone? When you go to someone alone and discuss the sin that they did against you shouldn’t it be an actual sin in the first place. The new Commandment of Jesus is ““A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

    Loving someone, as in being the salt and light, one could conclude is not lying about them or spreading false rumors or being critical but treating them the same way you want to be treated not the way they treat you.

  68. poohpity says:

    Is it a sin to not believe something someone says?

  69. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Pooh,
    I pray that God blesses you manifold, that He may shine with the Light of Jesus in your heart and mind.
    That He wraps His arms around you, and hugs you.
    In the mean time, I wait….

  70. poohpity says:

    So you could not answer those questions about what sin is? As far as your prayer goes it has been answered and more blessing upon those the Lord has done in my life. I am waiting for Him to work in your life as I lift prayers up for you.

  71. poohpity says:

    Forever do you think that what you prayed for and the snide comment “I wait” show godliness or the command of Jesus? Or does it show the thoughts of superiority and pride?

  72. poohpity says:

    I shared this 6 years ago on facebook, “Do not expect others to be who you think they should be then disappointment will find another place to reside. Love them for who they are, where they are and how they are.” I think that same way today.

  73. Beloved says:

    Sometimes it’s best to just leave…
    So how’s the weather there? Our snowstorm is just getting started good and is supposed to continue all day! Steve I hope Ezekiel doesn’t cause too many problems your way, Happy to hear you are feeling better.

    A thought, what grieves the Holy Spirit?

  74. Beloved says:

    there is a wonderful thing I discovered its called “refresh”. I can write on here my true feelings then just hit refresh and it’s all said but gone! Only God knows and can work in me privately as His Holy Spirit is always working in me to please Him, which is my desire. Refreshments are so good!

  75. poohpity says:

    I just hope that one day you all will look at your own speech and actions with the same intensity, judgement and criticism as you do mine? Then maybe there will come a time with the help of the Holy Spirit when the true understanding of grace will sink into your hearts and minds.

  76. Beloved says:

    I don’t think grace overlooks sin. But it gives me the opportunity to change my mind ( repent) to do what is pleasing to God and be at peace with the family of God. Salt and light are not just for unbelievers but useful within the Body also.

  77. Beloved says:

    Worth repeating now:

    Looking back, being or claiming to be his followers, sons, or daughters, didn’t make them salt or light. Neither did miracles, eloquence, or claims of God-given authority.

    As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.

    What’s “good for the world” should be standard Family practice.

  78. Beloved says:

    SCRIPTURE UNION talks about family squabbles, it’s long but worth the time to read and think about.

    Opening Prayer
    Lord, cover me with Your grace and mercy like a blanket.

    TITUS 3:1–15
    Saved in Order to Do Good
    3 Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, 2 to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and always to be gentle toward everyone.

    3 At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life. 8 This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.

    9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. 10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

    Final Remarks
    12 As soon as I send Artemas or Tychicus to you, do your best to come to me at Nicopolis, because I have decided to winter there. 13 Do everything you can to help Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way and see that they have everything they need. 14 Our people must learn to devote themselves to doing what is good, in order to provide for urgent needs and not live unproductive lives.

    15 Everyone with me sends you greetings. Greet those who love us in the faith.

    Grace be with you all

    Reflect in prayer on the day ahead, especially your encounters with other people and particularly those who are not Christians. Ask that Jesus will be seen in you.

    Think Further
    Moving to issues of Christian living in the public square, in verses 1 and 2 Paul begins by urging the Cretan believers through Titus to behave as model citizens, even under Roman rule. How does the demeanor required of believers in verse 2 compare with the general tone of public oratory in society today? Can you recall, or imagine, a public debate in which a Christian contribution carried the tone described here?

    Throughout the pastoral epistles, lifestyle and its underlying theology are interwoven. Such is also true of this chapter, the theology arriving in verses 4–7. This is one long sentence in the original Greek, perhaps quoted from an early creed, and here we find a rich exposition of the central phrase “he saved us” (5). Note from these verses: (1) who saved us, (2) what our salvation rests on, (3) the means by which salvation comes to us and (4) the hope salvation creates in us. We find in verse 3 a description of what we were saved from and in verse 8 a reminder of what should be the evidence of our salvation, seen by those around us. This brings us back to where the chapter began: the behavior of Christians in society. The instructions in verses 9–11 concerning “foolish controversies” and “divisive” people reissue the question posed when looking at 2 Timothy 2:23–26: when is a cause of disagreement among Christians sufficient to warrant a withdrawal of fellowship? However we may answer this, it is clear from this chapter that self-righteousness has no place in Christian ethics or debate. In verse 15 the letter ends as it began, as do our Christian lives: with “grace.”

    In what situations and by what behavior is God calling you to model “grace” in your dealings with those with whom you disagree, both inside and outside the church?

    Closing Prayer
    Lord, help me to maintain good works, even though I am still saved by grace

  79. poohpity says:

    Beloved, what sin have I committed that I am continuously being accused of. You are right grace does not overlook sin, it covers it! Like I said no understanding of grace yet but hopefully one day.

  80. Beloved says:

    When you feel that everyone is against you it is your gift from God so you turn to Him for your needs, instead of people. He wants all of you, and the more you know Him the greater love your heart will feel. Then you have that same love to give to others.

  81. Beloved says:

    Jesus sacrifice removed (covered) our sin, it God’s grace that gave us Jesus.

  82. Beloved says:

    “Believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and you will be saved.”

  83. Beloved says:

    Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, to comfort, guide teach reprove rebuke etc.

  84. Beloved says:

    Even those who don’t know Jesus are recipients of God’s benevolence and benificence because of His grace, unlike before Jesus death.

  85. Beloved says:

    Grace is/should be very humbling and as the devotional said we all need to learn how to be graceful to one another and pray others will see Jesus- not grace- but the living God in each of us.

  86. poohpity says:

    A reply to your 11:10am comment Beloved, that is what the Holy Spirit does in our lives not for us to use those things against others as Paul taught in 2 Tim 3:16-17 NLT;
    “All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. 17God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work.” Teaches us to be salt and light.

    The Holy Spirit does not teach us how to call others names or assume what their relationship is with God or if one thinks that someone is lacking in some area to point that out, does not help us point out the faults or failures in others but helps us look within to see no person has any room to talk about others or spread malicious lies and slander.

  87. Beloved says:

    Condemning those who condemn is not of the Holy Spirit either.

  88. Beloved says:

    Luke 6:28 New International Version (NIV)

    28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

    Forever is always saying this AND even if the “ persecution” is all in your mind it’s still a good command to follow. And God WILL give you peace and even show you a way to get along better with people. He’s working on me about this too. A Good Work in progress, His work. Jesus yoke is easy and His burden is light. Submission.

  89. street says:

    forever ?
    could you call this blog a church or a public square?

    either way it looks like a mission field or a mine field.

    seek and abide in the truth that leads to godliness.

    if it doesn’t lead to godliness you have to ask what am i missing? some hurdles are easier than other hurdles. i am not thinking of physical hurdles even though there are physical hurdles to overcome too.

  90. Beloved says:

    Forever I remember now your struggles with medication for migraines. I agree medication that is needed and works should always be taken. Do you still get them?

  91. Beloved says:

    My own decision (prompted by the H S) to quit my antidepressant was the weight gain which too much serotonin causes and heart issues that could come up. Being my age now I don’t need any more issues. I’ve sometimes wondered if it was a placebo effect since I’ve always gone to others and meds for help first, instead of going to God first. I’m doing ok. Much closer to God and trusting Him more as I go to Him more often as I said already.

    Disclaimer: Not saying anyone else should do this. This is just my experience my life. We are all different.

  92. poohpity says:

    Beloved do you have problems getting along with people?(2:32pm comment) There you go again accusing me and what leads you to think I have that problem? I happen to be very gregarious which attracts people to me and have no problems with listening or talking with people. I have lived in the same apartment complex for 18 years and went to the church before this one for 23 years then after my mom died I looked around for another home church closer to where I live and found the one I have been attending for the last 6 years. Been very involved in my community and church community, so I would say to do that I have to get along with people wouldn’t you say?

    When I run into problems with someone I usually try to go to them and talk it out to reconcile the rift by admitting my part of the problem and then apologize, I do not demand them to admit what they did because that is not my job only my part. I do that in my apartment complex and church. Am I able to mend every relationship that I have problems of course not but it is worth it for me to try but I still treat them kindly anyway. Like I have said over a dozen times you do not know me at all to be able to judge who I am.

  93. Beloved says:

    You owe me no explanation it’s between you and God. Not even sure where you are coming from but misunderstandings are common where you I and others are involved. Peace, tell God and be at peace. And pray for this troublemaker please. Thanks. I can’t give you peace only Jesus can.

  94. Beloved says:

    Here on the blog Pooh, I was talking about relationships here not at home or church.

  95. Beloved says:

    Which you have been complaining about people treating you badly.

  96. Beloved says:

    Please forgive me Pooh.

    My use of scripture is offensive to you. But being a Christian blog its all I want to know about is what Gods will and mind are for all including me. I assume others want to know also. That assuming again, -:( You say I do it a lot, you are right. I’m confused right now but God will help me figure it out.

  97. Beloved says:

    Psalm 32:5-7 English Standard Version (ESV)

    5 I acknowledged my sin to you,
    and I did not cover my iniquity;
    I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord,”
    and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Selah

    6 Therefore let everyone who is godly
    offer prayer to you at a time when you may be found;
    surely in the rush of great waters,
    they shall not reach him.
    7 You are a hiding place for me;
    you preserve me from trouble;
    you surround me with shouts of deliverance. Selah

  98. poohpity says:

    Beloved, I pray for God to give you the ability to love yourself as He loves you then that will result in the ability to love others too! And isn’t that what the will of God is in a nut shell?

  99. foreverblessed says:

    We wait for You….

    Come, Holy Spirit, the Church waits for YouTube.
    Come to the Bride with Your Love.
    We’ve waited so long
    and we long for Your Touch.
    Crowd out our pride with Your song

    We’ve waited in hope and we’ve waited in sin.
    For the key to our Joy
    We need the sun to enlighten our lives
    and Hope and Love.

    Come Holy Spirit, bring us Your fire.
    We wait for Jesus,
    our Hope and Desire.
    Come Holy Spirit, burn away fear
    and bring us to Jesus.

    Another song:
    We wait for You
    Shekina Glory

  100. foreverblessed says:

    YouTube is You.

    Today is the first Step of Advent..

    We wait for Jesus
    To appear, on this blog too.
    A mine field….
    Or a Mission Field.

    “I am always with you, now and forever”
    In a minefield and in the Mission field
    His Face we seek

  101. foreverblessed says:

    Been reading all the comments of last night.
    Beloved, you have given Pooh very good advice.
    Now we wait till she stops the accusing and starts blessing!
    I trust Jesus!
    “With God all things are possible”

  102. Beloved says:

    36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment.

    Yes Forever! “With God all things are possible” This I believe and put all of my hope and trust in. That she is praying for me encourages me also. I focus on Jesus and wait to see what He will do or not do. Patient endurance is called for and knowing when to be silent is also important. Waiting on God…

  103. Beloved says:

    The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much!

  104. Beloved says:

    Pooh said,

    “When I run into problems with someone I usually try to go to them and talk it out to reconcile the rift by admitting my part of the problem and then apologize“

    That’s a great thing you do off the blog, but…

  105. foreverblessed says:

    Indeed, that was a beautiful prayer from Pooh for you!
    That’s great!
    And it is also nice of you to accept that prayer!

    Accepting a blessing is
    Being humble.

  106. Beloved says:

    Ha ha I need all the prayers I can get! Without Jesus I’d have no reason to go on living; He’s my very blood sweat tears and being. In Him I trust!

  107. poohpity says:

    If one trusts in God then why would one feel the need to to sit on His throne of judgement and not show the amount of grace shown to them? That only happens when one does NOT trust God but trusts in and of themselves even though they do not know the heart of another.

  108. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Pooh, dearest beloved child of God: try blessing us!
    It really works!

  109. bratimus says:

    Touching on a little of what Steve said, yes sometimes staying silent keeping to oneself is a good habit.

    Through human nature some will act the same towards you no matter what you do. This is due to the conflict the competition that one’s human nature raises within. These people are actually in conflict with themselves, and will lash out at others because there human nature says they are competing with you and trying to make you look bad, this is in part because the evil one influences one’s human nature lies to it and manipulates it. Sometimes your stuck around this people and what ever you do the react the same.

    Through Christ Jesus the Holy Spirit can help one conquer their human nature.

    This has been some of my experience in life, and I know some say “no matter what I do, I still get the conflict from someone.” This is just the way of things, be prayerful about it and God deal with it and avoid it as much as you can. Some do make it hard Lord God!!!

    In Christ Jesus name


  110. Beloved says:

    Yes! I do trust in God for poohs and everyone’s salvation! God bless us all!

  111. Beloved says:

    Yesterday I pointed my sister to Jesus on FB. She also is an upstanding member of many years of a southern baptist church, tithes, does many good works and is very gregarious and outgoing with lots of friends; a leader in her church! But, just a simple sentence suggesting Jesus is why we celebrate Christmas and she took offense! I’m sure she’s thinking how judgemental of me to say such a thing because she is, after all, already a Christian! Amazing how sensitive we really are to that 2 edged sword Jesus brings with Him. There’s no avoiding it if we are in Christ. Praying for her also. Salt and light, what good is it if it’s lost it’s flavor and become dark.

  112. Beloved says:

    Good insight Bratimus!

  113. Beloved says:

    Heart; I think you can judge another’s heart by what they say and do, don’t say and don’t know. It’s being wise as a serpent; the tricky part is being gentle as doves in response. As you so aptly said Brat human nature has a tendency to twist and control and lash back. It’s a beast! But more of Christ is what we need. He’s the way truth and life. Who else do I have that gives me eternal life.

  114. Beloved says:

    Love and grace only come through the cross of Christ Jesus. If you sidestep these you blaspheme the Name of God. His rule, not mine.

  115. Beloved says:

    Romans 12:17–21 (ESV): 17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

    (Burning coals refers to a change of heart and mind which can be either accepted or rejected.) But because of grace the chance to change ones heart and mind are given through Christ Jesus.

  116. Beloved says:

    Meditating on the heart…

    As one of my friends from Colorado would say, Oh yes honey, we all know what’s in your heart! How? Because the Bible says so and if we are honest with God and others it’s our own heart also!

    “the heart is deceitful above all things”

    “I will give you a heart of flesh (Jesus) for your heart of stone“

    Not only the heart is bad but the lips “out of the mouth comes cursing and blessing”???

    And the tongue “causes many a fire” James also.

    So with the mess we already are the only thing that makes sense is to look to Jesus who knows and has the Mind we seek after but will never fully attain here and now. Humility takes the ability to drop defensive posturing and let God be God; He’s so so so good!

  117. bratimus says:

    When it comes to human nature even in Christians we tend to head into a 3 edge sword their side my side and the truth of God we some what forget. The truth Christ will split the sword right down the middle until all that remains is the Truth of Christ Jesus.

    In Christ Jesus name


  118. Beloved says:

    Reminds me of denominational doctrinal differences. As you say, the Truth of Christ will remain. Everything else will be burned up including our good works.

  119. jeff1 says:

    From our Holy Communion Service today.

    1 I am not worthy, holy Lord,
    that you should come to me:
    but speak the word! one gracious word
    can set the sinner free.

    2 I am not worthy cold and bare
    the lodging of my soul:
    how can you stoop to enter here?
    Lord, speak and make me whole.

    3 I am not worthy; yet, my God,
    shall I turn you away
    when you have given your flesh and blood
    my ransom price to pay?

    4 Come, feed me now with food divine
    in the appointed hour,
    and this unworthy heart of mine
    fill with your love and power!

  120. poohpity says:

    Yes one can tell what is in the heart of another by what comes out of their mouth because it does reveal the true heart. So are we filled with love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, long suffering and self control? Or rudeness, slander, gossip, hatred, discord, jealousy, idolatry or favoritism, rage; rivalries, divisions, factions and false testimony.

    It does not say anything about if someone disagrees or does not believe what another says. That is not a sin but it may be to the one who is disagreed with or is the one someone does not believe what they say. Those may hurt the pride of another but it is not a sin.

  121. poohpity says:

    If I remember right there was only ONE that was able to live perfectly and He alone showed us that even though we aren’t able to He still loves us enough to take our punishment upon His body and taught us that the one’s who are spiritual will look at the sin in their own lives and be very careful about not throwong stones at others. Or did I miss something?

  122. poohpity says:

    Gal 6:1-2 NLT

  123. poohpity says:

    We Harvest What We Plant

    Dear brothers and sisters, if another believer* is overcome by some sin, you who are godly* should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. And be careful not to fall into the same temptation yourself. 2 Share each other’s burdens, and in this way obey the law of Christ. 3 If you think you are too important to help someone, you are only fooling yourself. You are not that important.

    4 Pay careful attention to your own work, for then you will get the satisfaction of a job well done, and you won’t need to compare yourself to anyone else. 5 For we are each responsible for our own conduct.

  124. poohpity says:

    Foreverblessed, doesn’t sharing the teaching of Jesus bless you? If that is not a blessing then I do not know what else could be because it comes from the heart of someone who just loves the Lord, imperfect as that love actually is.

  125. foreverblessed says:

    Jesus is the One Who saved me. He came down to get me out of the pit of depression. He grabbed me, and held me close to His heart, He warmed my heart.
    This is the One I praise, this is the One I worship.

    We all here worship Jesus.
    He is the Truth, the Life, the Resurrection,
    He is the Living Word.
    Hebrews 1:1-2
    “In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.”

    We are all worshipping Jesus, all partakers on this blog.

    Imagine us, walking up to the Sanctuary, singing together:
    O come let us adore Him
    O come let us adore Him

  126. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Pooh, Beloved gave you very good advice:
    To you, who often complains that this blog is a gang, that we show mobsters mentality.
    Every time you that you want to write here what a gang we are:
    Start blessing us!

    You can do it Pooh!

  127. jeff1 says:

    As I looked around me in church I see not only dwindling numbers but a lack of attendance of the younger generation.

    I am not pointing the finger as my sons (though away) are among those falling away from their faith.

    I had a conversation with my Roman Catholic hairdresser some time ago and she said that after revelations of abuse by their clergy their younger generation also fell away.

    This shows that words alone are not enough as our actions speak louder and so what we do or don’t do does effect our children and grandchildren and so our failures becomes their failures.

    I do well to remember that when I hand out advice to others because if they see I am doing one thing and saying another I can be sure that they will not take me seriously nor should I expect them too.

    Words are like weapons they hurt sometimes and living in a country where many use words to do just that I see why there is a falling away from religions.

    When an English soldier remarked to me that he felt nearer to God fishing than in church I was somewhat sceptical but 40 years on and my mind has altered somewhat when it comes to making assumptions about others.

    In truth I don’t believe religions have done God any favours so I am not that surprised that church attendances are in the decline and somewhere in my mind is the thought that it is no surprise to God.

    He does see so much deeper than I often give Him credit for and so I have stopped assuming that though church is the place where I worship God it is not necessary where others do.

    God has no country nor church either and so with that in mind I shall not make assumptions that falling away from churches or religions necessarily means a falling away from God.

    My thinking is somewhat altered as to how God works as in my very limited view of Him I have overlooked that His view is not limited at all.

    How lovely on the mountains are the feet of Him
    Who brings good news, good news
    Proclaiming peace, announcing news of happiness
    Our God reigns, our God reigns

    Our God reigns, our God reigns
    Our God reigns, our God reigns

    You watchmen lift your voices joyfully asone
    Shout for your King, your King
    See eye to eye the Lord restoring Zion
    Your God reigns, your God reigns!
    Waste places of Jerusalem break forth with joy
    We are redeemed, redeemed
    The Lord has saved and comforted His people
    Your God reigns, your God reigns!

    Ends of the earth, see the salvation of your God
    Jesus is Lord, is Lord
    Before the nations He has bared His holy arm
    Your God reigns, your God reigns!

  128. Beloved says:

    Good morning, 6:45 am and I did not sleep well last night for a couple reasons but Forever I prayed and thought of you and Pooh throughout. Such a difficult thing to see a Christian badger a dear friend as you are to me! Painful as these things don’t change on here. Painful! Mines are activated just when you think they are finally disarmed! It really hurts my heart; imagining how God must be grieved by it all and how long He will allow it to continue.

    But no one gets to heaven unscathed Peter reminds us. Remember how in humility he asked to be hung upside down as he didn’t even feel worthy to be hung like our Precious LORD? My heart groans and stomach churns like the wood of the cross must have groaned under the weight of the body. Oh to be like Him! Be careful what you ask for. Be very sure Christ alone is all you want ( speaking to myself here).

    Return unto thy rest, oh my soul. For the LORD has dealt bountifully with thee.

  129. poohpity says:

    Viv, you said, “I do well to remember that when I hand out advice to others because if they see I am doing one thing and saying another I can be sure that they will not take me seriously nor should I expect them too.”. I could not agree with you more.

    It would seem that rather than embracing a person for who they are, we give out advise and critiques because one wants them to be like they are. Beloved, forever, and others tell me how I should act because they want me to be like them, well I am OK with being who God created me to be.

    forever, I never said anything about “mobsters mentality” that cracked me up I guess it has to do with the language differences however I did say “mob mentality” that is like one person does something so whether right or wrong people join in, like sheep not listening to their Shepard but to each other being lead over a cliff or in other words the blind leading the blind.

    We only have one Good Shepard but how can one do what He teaches if they are not familiar with the process of how we are guided and taught to live?

    There is only ONE person who can change us and when He brings to light what we forget when we walk away from a mirror and when He exposes our hearts He does not do it to bring shame but to bring us to humility that no one has any room to talk about others. God uses His word, like we learned in the last topic from what Paul wrote to Timothy, to root out our real heart condition.

    Hebrews 4: For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it pierces even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It judges the thoughts and intentions of the heart. 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight; everything is uncovered and exposed before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.…

  130. Beloved says:

    Pooh you are as embraceable as a porcupine, lol!

  131. Beloved says:

    Stop badgering people here, Pooh.

    Your larger than life personality has driven many here away. I accept this is who you are, but is it really who you want to be? We here are about discussing ways we are growing closer to God through changing perceptions about Him which sin has blinded us to. And in our changing perceptions we are changed into His likeness! From glory to glory!

    You keep saying it’s no ones business and when we share scripture to encourage you turn it down then post scripture to use to justify yourself—Blinded completely to what God is trying to say to you. Yes the Word is offensive to the ungodly, But there will come a time when the hardness of our hearts will find us all alone and miserable. God has hardened hearts before (pharaoh) as His will will be done. In the meantime:
    But the Lord just laughs, for he sees their day of judgment coming.

    Is the lord you serve and trust for salvation the True God of the Bible? The Pharisees also knew scripture, Jesus said unless they changed they would be lost forever. If so you would be more like us, gentle humble and kind. Not perfectly but always working at it.

    More advice: examine yourself to see if you are in the LORD. You also Viv I should add. Best advice you will ever get. If you are wise you will listen. Peter said. Who else would I follow, only You have the Words of life! Good news, repent and be saved.

    If this is offensive to you you have lots of company. I’m not trying to “ save” anybody; only God can do that.

  132. poohpity says:

    If we live off of the praise of people then we will be crushed under their criticism. This is what Jesus said about the praise of people, “For they loved human praise more than the praise of God.” or “How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?”

    So Beloved if you do not have the power to save who gives you the power or right to judge or criticize? If you consider yourself gentle, humble and kind then certainly you have been deceived and who is the father of deception? Look to John 8:44 NLT for the answer. Do you consider the things you say to me gentle, humble and kind no matter if I was your greatest enemy which I am not that shows that it is the flesh speaking because even regular people treat others kindly that are kind back but showing the love of God is being kind even to those who are not kind back. So who is it you actually follow, the One you claim to or the one you actually are?

  133. Beloved says:

    See you did it again.

  134. Beloved says:

    Living off the praise of men was told to the Pharisees because they trusted the law not God. Fellowship between believers means sharing joys sorrows building up encouraging congratulations even an atta boy now and then. You need to get your head out of the law to become a healthy participant in the fellowship of believers. Are you that blind?

  135. street says:

    i have a praise! when i went to church yesterday all the front door panels of glass were boarded up with plywood!

    i am thinking we are finally on the map in satans agenda.

    don’t know the story behind it, perhaps i am premature in my thinking. we shall see.

    I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

    thinking of the cost.

    47 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind; 48 and when it was filled, they drew it up on the beach; and they sat down and gathered the good fish into containers, but the bad they threw away. 49 So it will be at the [y]end of the age; the angels will come forth and [z]take out the wicked from among the righteous, 50 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

  136. Beloved says:

    Street you’ll have to explain about praising the church being boarded up. Thanks

  137. Beloved says:

    Or are you just being “salty” lol!!

  138. street says:

    the front doors are new from a remodel project. the glass has not been put in them yet.

    come to think of it He makes all things New!

    there is peace. and i am thankful!

  139. street says:

    light and salt

    more of a wild speculator trying to understand the times and the Glory of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

  140. jeff1 says:

    Beloved says:
    December 2, 2019 at 9:58 am

    More advice: examine yourself to see if you are in the LORD. You also Viv I should add.

    Please do not drag me into whatever history is going on between you as I have enough demons of my own to struggle with and my comments were not directed at anyone but rather I am speaking of how religions are not working here because the younger generation have seen the consequences of how religious people behaved towards each other and are turning away from their faith.

    The truth is I am exameing myself but I don’t like what I see and why I am seeking God to change me from this creature that I am.

    The change isn’t coming quick enough because of the demons in my head but I trust God in my heart for He has revealed truths to me which comfort.

  141. Beloved says:

    Ok good I didn’t know if you were in a tornado zone or? I have a hard time telling metaphors from real sometimes; so used to how Jesus used them so often. Keeps me looking up and forward sometimes.

    What is a metaphor for love? Jesus!

  142. foreverblessed says:

    Thank God, for being merciful to us all.
    It is to Jesus we look.
    Bratimus, you greatly encouraged me by what you wrote.

    Intercessory prayer!

    Gangster prayer, by Autumn Miles.
    Gangsters show more zeal in their profession than christians show in prater.

  143. foreverblessed says:

    In prayer (not prater)
    Beloved, go back to blessing!
    And without holding back, keep on giving all hurt, and tears to the Cross.
    It is Jesus Who alone is able to carry all!
    I know that you are doing this! All of us are doing it here. Or are learning to do IT.

    What Oswald Chambers said last month,( haha Utmost in november somewhere) instead of looking at your own failure, look at the suffering it took for Jesus to carry our sins.
    The Cross…

  144. street says:

    1 Corinthians 6:11
    Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

    this verse is not a good place to argue with God on points of the law or His Decisions.

    what am i saying???? who argues with God?

    seems it easier to argue with each other.

    abraham believed God and it was credited to him as Righteousness.

    “I will dwell in them and walk among them;
    And I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
    “Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate,” says the Lord.
    “And do not touch what is unclean;
    And I will welcome you.
    “And I will be a father to you,
    And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,”
    Says the Lord Almighty.

    7 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear, reverence, of God.

  145. foreverblessed says:

    Good points, Street.
    Beloved, I just wanted to encourage you!
    You gave the bible verse, where Jesus said:
    Bless your enemies, do good to those who hate you!

    It is Jesus Word.
    Good advice.

    How can anyone twist this into saying that Beloved and Forever want to be like each other?
    “God forgive Pooh, she does not know what she is doing!

    And I trust that You are the One who is Lord of all!
    To You I look. Also this upcoming night, You are our shield.
    Dear Lord, in Jesus’ Name I pray!

  146. Beloved says:

    Dear beloved friends,
    This problem we have here is never going to be resolved. But, we have a far better future to not only focus on today but look forward to:

    Hebrews 11 13All these people died in faith, without having received the things they were promised. However, they saw them and welcomed them from afar. And they acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.

    14Now those who say such things show that they are seeking a country of their own. 15If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16Instead, they were longing for a better country, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

  147. poohpity says:

    forever, that is not at all what I said or even meant. lol

  148. jeff1 says:

    Weary and troubled with so much uncertain,
    Helpless and homeless and so far away,
    Struggling to care for an infant so precious;
    All they could give was a cradle of hay.
    Savior, O Savior, we’re tired and we’re troubled.
    Humbly we offer this cradle of hay.

    Daily, so daily, through years and through trials,
    Often uncertain with hope far away,
    Walking by faith in the One who is faithful,
    God was their strength in the day after day.
    Savior, O Savior, through years and through trials,
    Come, be our strength in the day after day.

    Jesus, You came from the glories of heaven,
    Taking our weakness and struggle and shame,
    Walking by faith in the One who is faithful,
    Dying in silence, You carried our pain.
    Savior, O Savior, now gladly we follow,
    Taking Your cross and Your struggle and shame.

    Walking by faith in the One who is faithful,
    Finding You strong in the day after day.
    Walking by faith in the One who is faithful;
    Lord, You are strong in the day after day.

  149. Beloved says:

    Free from the Slightest Flaw
    There is no flaw in you.

    Song of Songs 4:7
    Having pronounced His Church positively full of beauty, our Lord confirms His praise by a precious negative: “There is no flaw in you.” As if the thought occurred to the Bridegroom that the complaining world would insinuate that He had only highlighted her good parts and had purposely not mentioned those features that were deformed or defiled, in summary He declares her universally and entirely beautiful and utterly devoid of flaws.

    A spot can easily be removed and is the very least thing that can disfigure beauty, but even from this little blemish the believer is delivered in his Lord’s sight. If He had said there is no hideous scar, no horrible deformity, no deadly ulcer, we might even then have marveled; but when He testifies that she is free from the slightest flaw, all these other forms of defilement are included, and the depth of wonder is increased.

    If He had simply promised to remove all flaws later on, we would still have eternal reason for joy; but when He speaks of it as already done, it fills us with a deep sense of satisfaction and delight. My soul, here is spiritual food for you; digest it properly, and be satisfied with the royal provision.

    Christ Jesus has no quarrel with His spouse. She often wanders from Him and grieves His Holy Spirit, but He does not allow her faults to affect His love.

    He sometimes rebukes, but it is always in a tender manner, with the kindest of intentions: It is “my love” even then. There is no remembrance of our follies. He does not cherish ill thoughts of us, but He pardons and loves equally after the offense as before it.

    If Jesus were as mindful of injuries as we are, how could He commune with us? Too often a believer will put himself out of humor with the Lord for some slight turn in providence, but our precious Husband knows our silly hearts too well to take any offense at our ill manners.

  150. poohpity says:

    What a beautiful depiction of being covered by the blood of the Lamb and that nothing can effect His love for us!!

    As Paul taught in Romans 8; What shall we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us? 32 Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else? 33 Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? No one—for God himself has given us right standing with himself. 34 Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.

    35 Can anything ever separate us from Christ’s love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? 36 (As the Scriptures say, “For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep.”) 37 No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.

    38 And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.

  151. jeff1 says:

    From these depths, O Lord,
    Hear my cry to You:
    Holy God, have mercy on my weakness and my need!

    Proud and selfish thoughts,
    Cold, uncaring ways–
    Holy God, have mercy on my weakness and my need!

    Mighty Redeemer,
    Loving God, forgive me for the foolish heart You see!

    Lord, I look to You.
    As a child I come.
    Holy God, have mercy on my weakness and my need!

    From these depths, O Lord,
    Hear my song to You:
    Holy God, I praise You for unfailing love to me!

  152. poohpity says:

    Amen and Amen!

  153. Beloved says:

    Dear Forever, I’ve been remorseful and struggling over my behavior a couple days ago. But, it’s Gods kindness that leads us to repentance. Forever, God told me that sometimes the best way to love someone that is difficult is just to walk away- to leave them alone. I had to hear that from God Himself to find peace. Others here have advised the same but hearing from Sovereignty dispels all the questions. I am good now I hope you are well also. Blessings to you with love. Joyce

  154. Beloved says:

    (Trying to be a little ‘sovereign’ in another’s life never works, lol!)

  155. poohpity says:

    I might add that trying to play the Holy Spirit shows a lack of trust or dependence on/in God and His abilities to work in our lives and the lives of others. As was said in scripture that we are all works in progress and that progress is not completed until we meet Jesus face to face( Phil 1:6 NLT), so in the meantime should we not show mercy and grace but more importantly love to our fellow believers. 1 John 3:10 NLT

  156. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Beloved for showing interest!
    It is very well with me.
    Does remind me of the song:
    It is well, with my soul,
    it is well, it is well, with my soul

    For indeed, no matter what, nothing can seperate us from the love of God.

    Thanks too, that you are doing fine!

    Indeed, God must lead us.

    But there is nothing wrong in listening to good advice. Especially, if the advice are Jesus’s Words Himself.
    Anyway, Mart has also given us advice about this, So I should follow that myself.
    For me the clarification of Bratimus helped a lot.

    At all times we should seek the peace from Jesus, when we are getting mixed up. No matter what, seek the peace in Jesus. Retreat, jnust as SPurgeon did often.
    He even would not preach.

    So be at peace…
    Love you all!
    And I pray that God be with you all!!!
    And I do believe that God lcherishes our prayers, and loves to hear them, and collect them, to act upon in due time. Never be dismayed.

    He that overcometh, will I give a new name,
    it is written in Revelation.
    And we overcome in the blood of Christ, in the Power of His resurrection life, attached to Him, and not in our own strength.

  157. foreverblessed says:

    There was trouble in posting here, I had posted yesterday, and it was lost in cyberspace.
    And then I had lots to do, Oecumenical prayer, and preparing a Christmas celebration for elderly people.
    John 1:1-14 was read yesterday:

    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

    6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

    9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

    14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

  158. foreverblessed says:

    Tomorrow we will have Saint Nicholas day (Sinterklaas in Dutch), It is a big festival, somethihg like your Thanksgiving day.
    People giving presents to children, and the big issue that we have about it: THe figure of Saint Nicolaas is a big mand with white hear and a long white beard. Red long dress, like the roman catholic bishops, and a long had, what’s the name of that had; a miter?
    But… with the black Pete.
    Faces all painted black.
    ANd this has been real dividing struggle in our country. People get very very angry about it:
    Either that it is done,
    or that people want to make an end to dear traditions.
    I never liked the black Pete, all that blackness.
    But the negroid people, the darker skin people, how do you call them in a nice way, many of them get offended about it.
    I went to a migrant church last year, full of black people, and they do not get offended about it, “this is a tradition that has been here for a long time”So this is all right.

    Now you know some of the things that are going on here. But many of us are feelling ashamed that such a childrens festival is fuel for so much fire.

    I believe that the Saint Nicholas, whose day is December 6, (so they celebrate it on the night before, the 5th)
    Wikipedia says on Saint Nicholas, (traditionally 15 March 270 – 6 December 343) of Myra Turkey
    ” His reputation evolved among the faithful, as was common for early Christian saints, and his legendary habit of secret gift-giving gave rise to the traditional model of Santa Claus (“Saint Nick”) through Sinterklaas. “

  159. Beloved says:

    Forever you have such an interesting country where so many of our great traditions came from. The Dutch reformed movement I think may also be why Marts family became involved in ministry here in the USA. Have you listened to M R DeHaans sermon on grace on YouTube? Marts grandfather? I believe. He was a wonderful radio preacher years ago.

    I do remember hearing about Sinterclause in school, as well as St. Patrick (Ireland), the Yule log-Swedish I think God has been reaching out to claim His people wherever they are in the world. Just think; when the gospels were written Rome was their world! Beyond Africa nothing else was known until many centuries later. You can’t keep salt and light from spreading to the uttermost parts of the world! It’s truly miraculous to me, being a small speck in the myriad peoples born since Adam and Eve. Yet here I am, chosen redeemed and His beloved child! Sanctified and living to serve Him, not Santa Clause who brings toys but cannot save your life!
    Good nights rest to you,

  160. jeff1 says:

    I Have a Dream

    I have a dream
    A song to sing
    To help me cope
    With anything

    If you see the wonder
    Of a fairy tale
    You can take the future
    Even if you fail

    I believe in angels
    Something good in everything I see
    I believe in angels
    When I know the time is right for me

    I’ll cross the stream
    I have a dream, oh yeah

    I have a dream (I have a dream)
    A fantasy (fantasy)
    To help me through (help me through)
    Reality (reality)

    And my destination (destination)
    Makes it worth the while (worth the while)
    Pushing through the darkness (through the darkness)
    Still another mile (another mile)

    I believe in angels
    Something good in everything I see
    I believe in angels
    When I know the time is right for me

    I’ll cross the stream (cross the stream)
    I have a dream

    I have a dream (oh yeah)
    A song to sing (song to sing)
    To help me cope
    With anything

    If you see the wonder (if you see the wonder)
    Of a fairy tale (of a fairy tale)
    You can take the future
    Even if you fail

    I believe in angels
    Something good in everything I see
    I believe in angels
    When I know this time is right for me (right for me)

    I’ll cross the stream (cross the stream)
    I have a dream (have a dream)
    I’ll cross the stream (cross the stream)
    I have a dream

  161. foreverblessed says:

    I have a dream…
    The Gospel message is so much greater than the best of the fairy tales, or Santa Claus, Sinterklaas.
    But Jesus came to give gifts to men.
    Eph 4:8

    Tuesday the pastor who was reading John 1:1-14,
    said: many young people in my church say: this is so hard to understand, can you explain?
    When they ask that, I tell them to read Jesus where it is written: the Word.

    In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God. He was with God in the beginning.
    Through Him all things were made, without Him nothing was made that has been made.
    In Him was life, and that life was the light of man.
    The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. (Greek word is katelaben = overcame)

    I myself add to this:
    For we do not preach ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
    6 For God, Who said, “Let light shine out of darkness” ( Gen 1:3), made His light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
    2 Cor 4:5-6

    This glory of God, being Hise character: humble, full of Grace, Mercy, everything Mart ends with in this topic.

  162. poohpity says:

    wow forever, thank you for sharing some of your country’s traditions, very interesting.

  163. jeff1 says:

    foreverblessed says:
    December 5, 2019 at 8:11 am
    I have a dream…
    The Gospel message is so much greater than the best of the fairy tales, or Santa Claus, Sinterklaas.

    That’s because it is God’s truth while the fairy tales told to me as a child did not prepare me for the reality of life and so I learned from a life of hard knocks which in the beginning took me away from God but He since has revealed truths to me that have drawn me back to Him.

    This teaches me that it is God who is faithful even when I am not which brings me much sought peace of mind in my wanderings.

    “God Is Good All The Time”

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    If you’re walking through the valley
    And there are shadows all around
    Do not fear, He will guide you

    He will keep you safe and sound
    He has promised to never leave you
    Nor forsake you, and His word is true

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in the heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    We were sinners and so unworthy
    Still for us He chose to die
    Filled us with His Holy Spirit

    Now we can stand and testify
    That His love is everlasting
    And His mercies, they will never end

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    Though I may not understand
    All the plans you have for me
    My life is in your hands
    And through the eyes of faith
    I can clearly see

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in the heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

  164. Beloved says:

    Yes Viv it’s because God is so good we serve Him- agreed! When I was little my parents used to say Santa was watching me all the time and if I was bad would leave nothing under the tree. I always got something but the anxiety connected to a seemingly omniscient character was close to ruining the enjoyment of the day. You just never knew.
    Pooh I dreamed about your liver failure last night. God bless you in your suffering. Even though I really don’t like you some days I do still pray for you as well as the rest of the blog. God is still greater than all our feelings. We are told to pray for everyone. Praying with the love of God, always.

  165. poohpity says:

    My decorations for Christmas include several things that tell “Jesus is the Gift”. I know He gets left behind in all the traditions, in the coming and going of gift giving and tree decorations but He is the gift given to mankind. The source of true love shown by His sacrifice. It was a true sacrifice to lay down that majestic power to walk among those He came to rescue from themselves and to show them what He was willing to do for us to live with Him for life in the here and now and for eternity.

  166. Beloved says:

    This is so good.

    Hospital of the Cross
    Ask, and it will be given to you.

    Matthew 7:7
    There was a place in England that no longer exists, where a loaf of bread was served to every passerby who chose to ask for it. Whoever the traveler was, he had only to knock at the door of St. Cross Hospital, and the loaf of bread was his to enjoy. Jesus Christ loves sinners so much that He has built a St. Cross Hospital, so that whenever a sinner is hungry, he has only to knock and have his needs supplied.

    He has actually done better: This Hospital of the Cross has a bath; and whenever a soul is marred and filthy, it may go to this effective fountain and be cleansed. No sinner ever went into it and found that it could not wash away his stains. Sins that were scarlet and crimson have all disappeared, and the sinner was made whiter than snow.

    As if this were not enough, there is attached to this Hospital of the Cross a dressing room, and a sinner making application simply as a sinner may be clothed from head to foot; and if he wishes to be a soldier, he will be provided not just with street clothes, but with armor that will cover him from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head. If he asks for a sword, that will be given to him, and a shield too. He will be denied nothing that is good for him. He will have spending money as long as he lives, and he will have an eternal heritage of glorious treasure when he enters into the joy of his Lord.

    If all these things are available by simply knocking at mercy’s door, then, my soul, knock hard this morning, and make large requests of your generous Lord. Do not leave the throne of grace until all your wants have been spread before the Lord and until by faith you are confident that they will all be supplied.

    You need not be shy about taking Jesus up on His invitation. No unbelief should hinder when Jesus promises. No coldheartedness should restrain when such blessings are to be obtained.

    Devotional material is taken from “Morning and Evening,” written by C.H. Spurgeon, revised and updated by Alistair Begg. Copyright © 2003, Good News Publishers and used by Truth For Life with written permission.

  167. poohpity says:

    Christ’s love controls us. Since we believe that Christ died for all, we also believe that we have all died to our old life. 15 He died for everyone so that those who receive his new life will no longer live for themselves. Instead, they will live for Christ, who died and was raised for them.

    16 So we have stopped evaluating others from a human point of view. At one time we thought of Christ merely from a human point of view. How differently we know him now! 17 This means that anyone who belongs to Christ has become a new person. The old life is gone; a new life has begun!

    18 And all of this is a gift from God, who brought us back to himself through Christ. And God has given us this task of reconciling people to him. 19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation. 20 So we are Christ’s ambassadors; God is making his appeal through us. We speak for Christ when we plead, “Come back to God!” 21 For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ.

  168. Beloved says:

    16 So we have stopped evaluating others from a human point of view.

    So true because God says so! Sometimes we have to literally wrestle with God for the grace to do His will. I understood Lady Macbeth’s problem until Jesus entered the scene! Jesus our means of obtaining grace from God. Blessed be His name, I love Him so much.

  169. foreverblessed says:

    IT is all very well to accept thee Grace Jesus has given us.
    But repentance precedes it:
    Saying sorry to Jesus, that you have viewed Him with a wrong heart and mind.
    It is called reconciliation.

    Letting go and leave a person who has been judging my heart, saying she has a right to do so, it is called: discernment, she said.
    That is one thing.
    But what next?

    Just go on talking with that person as if nothing has happened?

    I cannot do that.

    She is saying for years about me: she demands a sorry.
    Well, reconciliation is about saying sorry.

    No demand, only the consequence is that there is no communion.
    That’s all.

    This is a long explanation in saying that I cannot communicate with Pooh.

    Just one thing I learned: do not think evil of her. Leave her in God’s hands.
    And ask God to bless her.

    I am very sorry for you all, but I just cannot go on talking with Pooh.

  170. Beloved says:

    Forever scripture says that as much as you are ABLE to be at peace with others. Peace means leaving them alone sometimes; I first learned this while married to an abusive unbeliever long ago now. Like Lady Macbeth we can all take on another’s guilt sometimes, but don’t let it! You have been set free! Free! Free to talk to or interact with whomever you please with the discernment God gives, His grace to us all! And especially to those that manipulate scripture. Like Satan does.

  171. Beloved says:

    Jesus has been very merciful to us all by His great act of mercy. Because of Gods grace.

  172. Beloved says:

    All to be understood through faith.

  173. Beloved says:

    Forever I am not correcting you just reminding you of what you already know. I often need to be reminded which you and street do well along with solid wisdom from Steve and Bratimus at times. Bless those who curse you; hard to do sometimes, I know very well.

  174. Beloved says:

    Thinking how intercessory prayer is very sacred business, which means suffering, not unlike Jesus suffering on the cross, but not anywhere near as painful. Although it may feel like we are going to die, it’s just the “self” dying. Grace.

  175. Beloved says:

    Suffering is what it takes to be conformed to the image of Christ.

  176. Beloved says:

    I will be out the rest of the day.

  177. street says:

    thinking about salt and light that follows Matthew 5.
    sanctification a new heart and a renewal of the mind. seems the heart get tangled up with the past practices and so does the mind. separation is mentioned, like turning to God mentioned in many parts of the Bible or not to become entangled with the past or the world, yet still here in the world. discernment, not by ourselves but by the Spirit He gave us. Spirit and Truth, God’s Word. clean up is not by flesh and blood but by His Spirit and Truth. there is an obedience that works it’s self out in the flesh. getting the inside of the cup clean is a work of God, just how much effort we put in would be as divisive as some of the conversations here. yet not done apart from the presents of God. i like that Word done, reminds me of finished. i wonder if sanctification is learning to love and trust God?

  178. Beloved says:

    End result of Matthew 5-6 is 24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

    It’s a good thing it’s a work of God and I just have to love Him enough to trust Him. Trust=faith.

  179. poohpity says:

    forever, I do not judge your heart but I have not learned to trust the things you say because often what follows those words are not the actions spoken of but matters that are often condemnation and accusations just as what you said in your post of 11:29am. You say all these claims about praying for me because I am so far from God yet you have no idea what my relationship is with God. You demand apologies for my sin yet you never tell me how I sinned against you the reason for that is because I have not sinned against you. The only thing I have done is disagreed with you or not believed your covert flowery words that seem to really mean nothing.

  180. street says:

    forever you have been an encouragement to me.

    follow the Spirit and Truth that are in Christ Jesus, and as paul said, am convinced that it is in you.

  181. Beloved says:

    Forever I totally agree with street, was just thinking what a lovely person you are and of your love for our LORD. Blessings, Joyce

  182. jeff1 says:

    Forever, I have taken encouragement and I have learned from your words and I believe they are sincere in seeking God’s truths and thank you for sharing them.

  183. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you very much, Beloved and Street.
    Pooh writes: “I do not judge your heart”
    And that is very good news.
    I take that as a sorry, since she has written the exact opposite.
    But she does not remember that. So the prayer: “Father, forgive her, for she does not know what she is doing” remains a good prayer.

    What is making me very sad now is this:
    “Your flowery words that seem to really mean nothing”

    Isn’t that assuming?

    Pooh, can I give you a great clue?

    Jesus gave us His Word:
    Bless those that curse you,

    If you would follow Jesus to the utmost, you would do that, and the effect would be that it prevents you from thinking the worst about me.
    Blessing your enemy is giving over to Jesus, your own negative thoughts about your enemies.

    And what comes in its place:
    Gracefull thoughts, merciful thoughts.

    So when you say:
    Her covert flowery words seem to mean nothing….
    You underestimate the working of God’s Grace in your fellow blogger.
    It is because of the Grace of God, that my flowery words to you are full of Jesus grace and mercy.

    And it hurts me that you do not accept it.
    But I give my hurt to Jesus, and He carried it on the Cross.
    And He gives to me: Peace in my heart, and love.
    Jesus is still working on Joy in me.

  184. poohpity says:

    forever, I apologize again for hurting your feelings. Rejection does hurt especially if it happens over and over, I know how that is.

    It does not take much to be kind to those who are kind back most all people do that, what does take some Christ living in us effort is to be kind to those who are not kind back.

  185. poohpity says:

    It takes Christ living through us to forgive even when one does not apologize or admit to wrong doing. It takes Christ living through us to show mercy or grace even when we do not think a person deserves it just as we did not deserve it from God. Christ living through us takes us into a topsy turvy kind of life of turning the other cheek, loving even when it is not returned, not judging by human standards, not returning insult for insult or evil for evil, not expecting others to live their lives the way we think they should but accepting people for who they are, how they are and where they are.

  186. poohpity says:

    The other day someone said something nice and encouraging about something I had written and I almost feel off my chair the first compliment in over five years when most of what I say are actually teachings of Jesus but because people do not seem to be familiar with those teachings they attribute them to me and I am not the one who teaches them, I only share what I have learned from Him.

  187. Beloved says:

    Forever, once again you show us all the goodness kindness and grace of God. I am humbled.

  188. Beloved says:

    Perhaps by Gods grace some day….the deceiver will not harass I was about to say, but, we are still on earth and still awaiting Jesus return. I just get so sick and tired of his antics. And how easy some people are to manipulate into playing the devils advocate here. Year after year after year. Even today. Pitiful. Only Gods grace lifts us higher above the insults, shaming, blaming and judging of Gods people. But no matter what goes on I must obey Him so joyfully I thank God for His presence through Forever here this day that the LORD has made! I am rejoicing and very grateful.

  189. poohpity says:

    Didn’t Jesus teach; “Watch out! Don’t do your good deeds publicly, to be admired by others, for you will lose the reward from your Father in heaven. 2 When you give to someone in need, don’t do as the hypocrites do—blowing trumpets in the synagogues and streets to call attention to their acts of charity! I tell you the truth, they have received all the reward they will ever get. 3 But when you give to someone in need, don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. 4 Give your gifts in private, and your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

    “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get. 6 But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

    “If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. 15 But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.

    16 “And when you fast, don’t make it obvious, as the hypocrites do, for they try to look miserable and disheveled so people will admire them for their fasting. I tell you the truth, that is the only reward they will ever get. 17 But when you fast, comb your hair[d] and wash your face. 18 Then no one will notice that you are fasting, except your Father, who knows what you do in private. And your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

    So wasn’t Jesus teaching that when we do things in the public eye to look godly or spiritual it is only to get the praise of other people but when we do things in private God sees where our heart really is and blesses us.

  190. Beloved says:

    Jesus spoke in public as did His disciples and apostles. It’s all about the heart then isn’t it. But you can tell a persons heart by who they follow, the self or God. If you Pooh struggle with Jesus sayings and doing his will then at the very least you do acknowledge Him as God. Perhaps He will have mercy on you before it is too late. If you are Gods chosen then do what you need to do; repent and do good. To all, including the blog.

  191. Beloved says:

    One can write Jesus words all day long but what proves them to be a part of the Body is how they love. Love does not seek approval, it gives. Freely and without hypocrisy.

  192. Beloved says:

    If you are jealous of the praise others may get here from time to time that’s a sin only God in Christ Jesus can forgive you for. If you are IN Christ that is. Within the Body encouragement and praise are the norm. Get behind me, Satan. Jesus said.

  193. Beloved says:

    Love also abhors evil.

  194. poohpity says:

    What leads you to believe that I have struggles “with Jesus sayings and doing his will”? I do not struggle with that at all in fact I consider it a gift and delight to believe what He says and to do what He asks! How about you? Maybe I am missing it but I do not read in to many comments anything that even faintly resembles that.

  195. poohpity says:

    But it is not really my business whether anyone follows Jesus and does what He says but it is my only business whether I do or not.

  196. poohpity says:

    Beloved and what do you think I have to be jealous of anyone on here for? Please do share if it is just praise from others on here that is certainly the farthest thing on my mind or heart, I get my praise from God and I need no other.

  197. Beloved says:

    the farthest thing on my mind or heart, I get my praise from God and I need no other.

    God praises you? Just asking.

  198. Beloved says:

    Pooh Jesus words are explained further in the epistles as to how to carry them out in the Body of Christ. Being social is how we carry them out, here’s a list of one another verses if you are interested. Being salt and light encompasses these actions. All are uplifting and encouraging! Like Jesus, uplifting and encouraging as He dwells among us.

    The 59 “One Anothers” of the New Testament
    1. “…Be at peace with each other.” (Mark 9:50)
    2. “…Wash one another’s feet.” (John 13:14)
    3. “…Love one another…” (John 13:34)
    4. “…Love one another…” (John 13:34)
    5. “…Love one another…” (John 13:35)
    6. “…Love one another…” (John 15:12)
    7. “…Love one another” (John 15:17)
    8. “Be devoted to one another in brotherly love…” (Romans 12:10)
    9. “…Honor one another above yourselves. (Romans 12:10)
    10. “Live in harmony with one another…” (Romans 12:16)
    11. “…Love one another…” (Romans 13:8)
    12. “…Stop passing judgment on one another.” (Romans 14:13)
    13. “Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you…” (Romans 15:7)
    14. “…Instruct one another.” (Romans 15:14)
    15. “Greet one another with a holy kiss…” (Romans 16:16)
    16. “…When you come together to eat, wait for each other.” (I Cor. 11:33)
    17. “…Have equal concern for each other.” (I Corinthians 12:25)
    18. “…Greet one another with a holy kiss.” (I Corinthians 16:20)
    19. “Greet one another with a holy kiss.” (II Corinthians 13:12)
    20. “…Serve one another in love.” (Galatians 5:13)
    21. “If you keep on biting and devouring each other…you will be destroyed by each other.”
    (Galatians 5:15)
    22. “Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.” (Galatians 5:26)
    23. “Carry each other’s burdens…” (Galatians 6:2)
    24. “…Be patient, bearing with one another in love.” (Ephesians 4:2)
    25. “Be kind and compassionate to one another…” (Ephesians 4:32)
    26. “…Forgiving each other…” (Ephesians 4:32)
    27. “Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs.” (Ephesians 5:19)
    28. “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” (Ephesians 5:21)
    29. “…In humility consider others better than yourselves.” (Philippians 2:3)

    30. “Do not lie to each other…” (Colossians 3:9)
    31. “Bear with each other…” (Colossians 3:13)
    32. “…Forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another.” (Colossians 3:13)
    33. “Teach…[one another]” (Colossians 3:16)
    34. “…Admonish one another (Colossians 3:16)
    35. “…Make your love increase and overflow for each other.” (I Thessalonians 3:12)
    36. “…Love each other.” (I Thessalonians 4:9)
    37. “…Encourage each other…”(I Thessalonians 4:18)
    38. “…Encourage each other…” I Thessalonians 5:11)
    39. “…Build each other up…” (I Thessalonians 5:11)
    40. “Encourage one another daily…” Hebrews 3:13)
    41. “…Spur one another on toward love and good deeds.” (Hebrews 10:24)
    42. “…Encourage one another.” (Hebrews 10:25)
    43. “…Do not slander one another.” (James 4:11)
    44. “Don’t grumble against each other…” (James 5:9)
    45. “Confess your sins to each other…” (James 5:16)
    46. “…Pray for each other.” (James 5:16)
    47. “…Love one another deeply, from the heart.” (I Peter 3:8)
    48. “…Live in harmony with one another…” (I Peter 3:8)
    49. “…Love each other deeply…” (I Peter 4:8)
    50. “Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling.” (I Peter 4:9)
    51. “Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others…” (I Peter 4:10)
    52. “…Clothe yourselves with humility toward one another…”(I Peter 5:5)
    53. “Greet one another with a kiss of love.” (I Peter 5:14)
    54. “…Love one another.” (I John 3:11)
    55. “…Love one another.” (I John 3:23)
    56. “…Love one another.” (I John 4:7)
    57. “…Love one another.” (I John 4:11)
    58. “…Love one another.” (I John 4:12)
    59. “…Love one another.” (II John 5)
    *From Carl F. George, Prepare Your Church for the Future (Tarrytown: Revell, 1991), 129-131.

  199. Beloved says:

    Pooh I pray you will experience the love of God through His people and give the glory and praise to God.

  200. Beloved says:

    Maybe this will help

    Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers
    (43) For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.–For “praise” read in both instances glory. “The glory which comes from men more than the glory which came from God.” Comp. Note on John 5:44, where the truth is put in the form of a question by our Lord. Here it explains the fact that there were men who believed, and yet did not publicly confess their faith. There our Lord’s question goes deeper, and asserts that the seeking of the glory which comes from men is inconsistent with the existence of any true belief in God.

  201. poohpity says:

    Beloved, I will again repeat that all that need concern you is whether you are doing the 59 things that John Piper listed!! When you are able to do those things then you will probably find no need to judge whether someone else is doing them. ;-) I do receive the love of God through His people almost everyday when I am around them.

    About receiving the praise of God read 1 Cor 4:5 NLT; 2 Cor 10:18 NLT

  202. Beloved says:

    That wasn’t Piper but wish you could be less anti social on here. But if you can’t you can’t. Just checking. God bless you.

  203. street says:

    thinking of some things eugene peterson said about play and work. he said play is a precursor to work while growing up.

    i am thinking
    work is a precursor to worship.

    we know about the law

    we know about the accuser

    we know about the Savior

    3 See, I am sending my messenger to prepare the way before me, and the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple. The messenger of the covenant in whom you delight—indeed, he is coming, says the Lord of hosts. 2 But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears?

    For he is like a refiner’s fire and like fullers’ soap; 3 he will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the descendants of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, until they present offerings to the Lord in righteousness.[a] 4 Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to the Lord as in the days of old and as in former years.

    5 Then I will draw near to you for judgment; I will be swift to bear witness against the sorcerers, against the adulterers, against those who swear falsely, against those who oppress the hired workers in their wages, the widow and the orphan, against those who thrust aside the alien, and do not fear me, says the Lord of hosts.

    6 For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, have not perished. 7 Ever since the days of your ancestors you have turned aside from my statutes and have not kept them. Return to me, and I will return to you, says the Lord of hosts. But you say, “How shall we return?”

  204. Beloved says:

    Salt and light

    I found some notes from a couple years ago when I was studying about the holiness of God. R C said the holiness of God defeats our pride. He cited Galatians 5:16-18 saying that as we walk by the Spirit He restrains us from doing as we please resulting in less sin and more righteous behavior. Salt and light are so appealing, and as you say street it takes work, often hard work.

    Did Solomon say anything about a time to play? Yes I’m sure he did. It’s a balance oftentimes.

  205. jeff1 says:

    Come, Thou long-expected Jesus,
    Born to set Thy people free.
    From our fears and sins release us;
    Let us find our rest in Thee.
    Israel’s Strength and Consolation,
    Hope of all the earth Thou art–
    Dear desire of every nation,
    Joy of every longing heart.

    Born Thy people to deliver,
    Born a Child and yet a King,
    Born to reign in us forever,
    Now Thy gracious kingdom bring.
    By Thine own eternal Spirit,
    Rule in all our hearts alone.
    By Thine all-sufficient merit,
    Raise us to Thy glorious throne.

    Blessed Jesus, we adore You,
    Light of Life and Sun of Love.
    All Your children bow before You,
    Speak Your name and lift You up.
    King of Kings, from highest heaven,
    Lord of Lords, come rule alone.
    Son of God so sweetly given,
    Make our hearts Your holy throne.

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