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Salt and Light

According to Matthew, Jesus described his people as the salt and light of the world— after telling them what it would take to make them good in the eyes of heaven (Matthew 5:1-16).

By the time he was done showing what that looked like, he had, at his own expense, taken apart a religious community that proudly stood for the laws and ways of God— in a world— and ways that didn’t.

Looking back, being or claiming to be his followers, sons, or daughters, didn’t make them salt or light. Neither did miracles, eloquence, or claims of God-given authority.

As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.


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  1. poohpity says:

    People “CLAIM” to be many things but the proof of those claims comes out in where a person’s heart really is, shown by their actions and behaviors.

    Faith, trust and dependence in/on God is not a spectator endeavor or one words can satisfy but it is lived out in every area of one’s life. It is not preaching about it but living it.

  2. bratimus says:

    I myself don’t claim to be much, I do claim to be “the Most perfect “NON-perfect human””. I do make mistakes here and there. I am unworthy of God’s Love but God Loves me anyhow. So I trying to live by the ways of God the best I can.

    We walk through a world with many stumbling blocks, traps, and snares. One step at a time carefully in faith, prayer and praise.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  3. Beloved says:

    Matthew 5:16 (ESV): 16 In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father who is in heaven.

    I don’t think we should dwell on ours or others faults so much because as Mart says: As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.

    The definition of “good works” takes on a whole other dimension when it comes from Jesus’s own words. Listening to Him alone, dying to self and the world is His way.

  4. Beloved says:

    When Christ calls a man, he bids him come and die. —Dietrich Bonhoeffer

  5. poohpity says:

    Beloved, what does, “The definition of “good works” takes on a whole other dimension when it comes from Jesus’s own words.” mean?

  6. Beloved says:

    Pooh,
    “As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.”

    I’m thinking he’s talking more about our motives rather than just bringing food to a sick neighbor or helping a kid with their homework which many people/organizations can and do for their own rewards of gratitude and praise.

  7. Beloved says:

    By dying to self our motives take on a whole new meaning-Gods way not mine-worldly, sensual deceitful etc.

  8. Beloved says:

    Salt and light draws toward God. Not self.

  9. poohpity says:

    Oooohh! Our motivation is what causes us to bring food to a sick neighbor, helping a kid with their homework, feeding the hungry, giving shelter to the homeless, visiting those in prison, giving a coat or a blanket to someone cold, hugging someone who is hurting, feeding the hungry, taking out the trash for someone. Just as James said, “Faith without good works is dead” or as Jesus said, “whatever you have done for the least of these you have done it for me”(Matt 25) Isn’t loving others an action not a feeling? Motivation is also an action word that means “the reason or reasons one has for acting or behaving in a particular way”.

  10. street says:

    Salt and Light
    in a world of darkness chaos and coldness, i did not expect humility, kindness, faithfulness, peace, or love.

  11. poohpity says:

    Salt can loose it saltiness and a light hidden under a basket gives no light. Action is required when the love of God within us comes pouring out towards others.

  12. poohpity says:

    God is our motivation to be His hands and feet towards others.

  13. poohpity says:

    Do Something
    by Matthew West

    I woke up this morning
    Saw a world full of trouble now, thought
    How’d we ever get so far down, and
    How’s it ever gonna turn around

    So I turned my eyes to Heaven
    I thought, “God, why don’t You do something?”
    Well, I just couldn’t bear the thought of
    People living in poverty
    Children sold into slavery
    The thought disgusted me

    So, I shook my fist at Heaven
    Said, “God, why don’t You do something?”
    He said, “I did, yeah, I created you” (now listen)

    If not us, then who
    If not me and you
    Right now, it’s time for us to do something, yeah
    If not now, then when
    Will we see an end
    To all this pain
    Oh, it’s not enough to do nothing
    It’s time for us to do something

    I’m so tired of talking about
    How we are God’s hands and feet
    But it’s easier to say than to be
    Live like angels of apathy who tell ourselves
    It’s alright, “somebody else will do something”
    Well, I don’t know about you
    But I’m sick and tired of life with no desire
    I don’t want a flame, I want a fire and
    I wanna be the one who stands up and says
    “I’m gonna do something”

    If not us, then who
    If not me and you
    Right now, it’s time for us to do something, yes it is, come on
    If not now, then when
    Will we see an end
    To all this pain
    Oh oh, it’s not enough to do nothing
    It’s time for us to do something

    We are the salt of the earth
    We are a city on a hill
    We’re never gonna change the world
    By standing still
    No, we won’t stand still
    No, we won’t stand still
    No, we won’t stand still
    No

    If not us, then who
    If not me and you
    Right now
    It’s time for us to do something
    If not now, then when
    Will we see an end
    To all this pain
    It’s not enough to do nothing
    It’s time for us to do something
    It’s time for us to do something
    It’s time for us to do something

  14. Beloved says:

    Beloved says:
    November 26, 2019 at 8:42 am

    PLEASE disregard my earlier post as noted. I have a really really bad habit of not listening/understanding well. Sorry for the mess I started…. Hope the day is better for all!

  15. jeff1 says:

    Always do your best and let God do the rest. I’m human, I’ll fail at times to be as charitable as I know I should be but forgive yourself as God wants you to.

    Don’t let others influence you by their criticism of you for being charitable but don’t fall out with them either.

    Be kind in everyday dealings with all people and you cannot go far wrong.

    The more you try the easier it gets so that eventually it’s second nature to be the kind, good natured, gentle person God wants you to be.

    Knowing you are pleasing God is your motivation because you may not always find people grateful for the efforts you make.

  16. street says:

    By the time he was done…

    at his own expense…..

    taken apart a religious community ……

    what would make his people good …….

    willingness to live and die for a chance to love like He did.

    you must be born again. a Holy Spirit.

  17. foreverblessed says:

    True, born of the Holy Spirit.

    And the effect will be:
    “humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.”

    Oswald Chambers talks a lot of our focus:
    ( But he teaches missionaries, those send out in far and lonely places)
    It should be on Jesus, and not on the need of the world.
    If we focus on the needs of people, we Will get worn out.
    Being the hands and feet of Jesus, means we are attached to a Body, and the hands do what procedes out of the Head, that is Christ.

    When we focus on Jesus, our inner heart will be changed.
    “Look to Me, and be saved” Isaiah 45:22

    In my village, ( that is attached to a city, being build closer and closer with houses) many catholic women are being the hands and feet of Christ, and they are humble….
    But their focus is the needs of people, they lack the spiritual attachment to Jesus, the Source of their power.
    My heart goes out to them.
    ( So I pray, intercessory prayer, dear Lord, touch their hearts)
    One lady in my church, who was like that, hands and feet of Jesus, strongly reacts when we talk about being the hand and feet. It took a long time to find out why she was so antagonistic, till she talked about that she had been like that, being a loyal and humble catholic woman. But totally worn out by all the needs of people around her.
    When she truely found Jesus, like Mary in the Garden of Easter: “Rabboeni”
    She sits at His feet, her eyes on Him, and waiting clear instructions from the Spirit.

  18. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning BTA, I really don’t have the energy or time to devote much to BTA, but like all of Mart’s thoughts there is an open doorway to actual thinking and subject direction with this and many other subjects.

    A question that will ultimately come up within theology is whether or not God is capable of making mistakes or failure?

    It is written that God created everything that exists by and through The Son.

    God formed man from the dust of the earth and breathed life into him and placed him in a paradise.

    Man failed to live up to God’s standards.

    Was man’s failure a failure of God to equip him not to fail? To protect him from it?

    Or was man’s failure the beginning point of showing his need for a savior?

    God killed off every living thing upon the earth except those He placed in a place of safety and started over again. But this time with failure the cause of all the misery upon the earth.

    God created a people through whom He would be reintroduced as God through.

    Did they fail in their duty? You know God by their unfailing devotion to the Law as written and given yet today in your Bible.

    Everyone would agree that no one could live up to the law except the Christ.

    Is that man’s failure, or God’s plan?

    Jesus through whom all the nations of the earth are blessed came through these same special people God bred for His purpose.

    So the whole world is blessed through these people. Something of their doing, or a means by which God brought the Messiah into the world?

    The messages of the Sermon on the Mount once again shows man’s inability to live up to God’s standard and just as in the beginning still in need of a Savior.

    Are the failure of mankind the failures of God or His plan to introduce Himself as loving His creation enough to do all for their eternal safety?

    Salt and light… Without light you cannot see and without salt there is no flavor.

    Have a nice day and be blessed in all you do.

    Steve

  19. poohpity says:

    First, God did not create everything through His Son but by His spoken Word. Example Genesis 1:3 “God SAID, ‘Let there be light’, and there was light. (Psalm 33:6,9) All things were made through God as John was introducing Jesus in John 1 He was making sure that people realized exactly who Jesus is, fully God and fully man. John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.”

    Second, as far as those “who actually think” but have no faith it all seems confusing and hard to understand but those who think and reason through faith it is awe inspiring, majestic and glorious that a God who created us, gave us the ability to think for ourselves and make mistakes and have failures even though He told us how to live rightly but people chose to do things their own way which lead to all the muck we see around us.

    If God had not given us the ability to think for ourselves then there would be no choices, He would have created little robots that do not have the ability to love but only to obey and yes He could have done that, no brain needed but instead He created beings that can either reject Him or embrace Him. No one can force anyone to want them it has to be by choice.

    The failures of mankind are not the failures of God, it would seem if He had the choice He would have provided everything we needed at our finger tips and even have Him walking and talking with us but rather mankind made “the choice”(thinking) to ignore God in hopes of being god.

    It could be since God created us in their likeness which would include emotions and God did have regret, sadness over the way that His creation decided to go to, walking away from His best for us(love) to do things our own way it would make me sad or regret too because I have just a peek into that being a parent. I would love to be able to make my children do what will not cause them harm but that would deny them the ability to think for themselves and learn from the mistakes they make rather than me being a dictator and telling them how to think and act not using their brains for anything but how their body works.

    The wisdom of God in how He has done all that we see around us and every part of His wondrous creation takes my breath away in adoration. I choose love, I chose God! That is where my best thinking ever took me.

  20. jeff1 says:

    As someone who suffered a ‘mental breakdown’ the scars of which are still with me I can say that it was trying to please everyone and in the end pleasing no one that led me to the darkest days of my life.

    To this day I tend to become overwhelmed when faced with the needs of others and it has a detrimental effect on my mental well being.

    As I see it there are questions that only God can answer and for myself I am quite relieved that this is so because I have not done very well in following His example but rather got caught up in my religion and a religious war that has left me with more questions than answers.

    I tend to think therefor that it is the failures of religions that have led to the failures of mankind which led to suffering not intended by God and so not part of God’s plan.

    God knew where it would lead and so I hope it is not wishful thinking on my part to believe that God not only as went before us but He also comes after us in righting the wrongs I have so often made in both my negligence and ignorance of Him.

    1 Immortal, invisible, God only wise,
    in light inaccessible hid from our eyes,
    most blessed, most glorious, the Ancient of Days,
    Almighty, victorious, Thy great name we praise.

    2 Unresting, unhasting, and silent as light,
    nor wanting, nor wasting, Thou rulest in might;
    Thy justice, like mountains, high soaring above
    Thy clouds, which are fountains of goodness and love.

    3 To all, life Thou givest, to both great and small,
    in all life Thou livest, the true life of all;
    we blossom and flourish as leaves on the tree,
    and wither and perish, but naught changeth Thee.

    4 Great Father of glory, pure Father of light,
    Thine angels adore Thee, all veiling their sight;
    all praise we would render, O help us to see
    ’tis only the splendor of light hideth Thee!

  21. poohpity says:

    I wonder if one ever takes into consideration the thought that God never gives us something to do that He does not help us do it?

    As the disciples looked at the crowd of 5,000 plus to feed as they looked at themselves thought we can never accomplish this but Jesus told them just bring to me what you have and watch me multiply it. Everyone ate their fill and there were leftovers because of what Jesus can do. I do not believe that He ever gives us more than we can handle.

    One glass of water to a thirsty person, one hug to a down cast person, one prayer lifted up in the name of Jesus, one kind word, one thoughtful action, one smile, one set of listening ears Jesus can multiply the effects to show how He cares for each person.

    Being overwhelmed by all the needs around us is the devil’s way of getting us to do nothing. Deterred from taking just one little baby step because it would seem it comes down to who will notice what “I” have done and give me the praise but it seems to God every little tiny good thing we do in His name brings praise to Him.

    How do we travel a long journey? One step at a time.

  22. Beloved says:

    Salt and light
    Priests and Kings Unto God
    Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord.

    Zechariah 3:10
    In Joshua the high priest we see a picture of each and every child of God, who has been brought near by the blood of Christ and has been taught to minister in holy things and enter into that which is within the veil. Jesus has made us priests and kings unto God, and even here upon earth we exercise the priesthood of consecrated living and hallowed service.

    But this high priest is said to be “standing before the angel of the LORD,” that is, standing to minister. This should be the perpetual position of every true believer.

    Every place is now God’s temple, and His people can serve Him just as truly at work as in His house. They should always be ministering, offering the spiritual sacrifice of prayer and praise, and presenting themselves “a living sacrifice.”1

    But notice where Joshua stands to minister–it is before the angel of Jehovah. It is only through a mediator that we poor, defiled ones can ever become priests to God.

    I present what I have before the messenger, the angel of the covenant, the Lord Jesus; and through Him my prayers find acceptance wrapped up in His prayers; my praises become sweet as they are bound up with bundles of fragrant spices from Christ’s own garden.

    If I can bring Him nothing but my tears, He will put them with His own tears in His own bottle, for He once wept; if I can bring Him nothing but my groans and sighs, He will accept these as an acceptable sacrifice, for He once was broken in heart and sighed heavily in spirit. I myself, standing in Him, am accepted in the Beloved; and all my polluted works, though in themselves only objects of divine displeasure, are so received that God smells a sweet savor. He is content, and I am blessed. Consider, then, the position of the Christian–“a priest . . . standing before the angel of the LORD.”

    1) Romans 12:1
    TRUTH FOR LIFE Spurgeon

  23. Beloved says:

    Thinking of the Holy Spirit a lot lately as someone said we should pray for others that God would give them the Spirit. Now, it makes sense as without the Spirit there’s no power to do what is right and good, salty and light infused. Without me you can do nothing, Jesus said.

    I am the vine; you are the branches. Whoever abides in me and I in him, he it is that bears much fruit, for apart from me you can do nothing.John 15:5

    Nevertheless, I tell you the truth: it is to your advantage that I go away, for if I do not go away, the Helper will not come to you. But if I go, I will send him to you.John 16:7

  24. jeff1 says:

    The High Priestly Prayer

    17 When Jesus had spoken these words, he lifted up his eyes to heaven, and said, “Father, the hour has come; glorify your Son that the Son may glorify you, 2 since you have given him authority over all flesh, to give eternal life to all whom you have given him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom you have sent. 4 I glorified you on earth, having accomplished the work that you gave me to do. 5 And now, Father, glorify me in your own presence with the glory that I had with you before the world existed.

    6 “I have manifested your name to the people whom you gave me out of the world. Yours they were, and you gave them to me, and they have kept your word. 7 Now they know that everything that you have given me is from you. 8 For I have given them the words that you gave me, and they have received them and have come to know in truth that I came from you; and they have believed that you sent me. 9 I am praying for them. I am not praying for the world but for those whom you have given me, for they are yours. 10 All mine are yours, and yours are mine, and I am glorified in them. 11 And I am no longer in the world, but they are in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, keep them in your name, which you have given me, that they may be one, even as we are one. 12 While I was with them, I kept them in your name, which you have given me. I have guarded them, and not one of them has been lost except the son of destruction, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I am coming to you, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have my joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one.1 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sake I consecrate myself,3 that they also may be sanctified in truth.

    20 “I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in vus, so that the world may believe that you have sent me. 22 The glory that you have given me I have given to them, that they may be one even as we are one, 23 I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one, so that the world may know that you sent me and loved them even as you loved me. 24 Father, I desire that they also, whom you have given me, may be with me where I am, to see my glory that you have given me because you loved me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father, even though the world does not know you, I know you, and these know that you have sent me. 26 I made known to them your name, and I will continue to make it known, that the love with which you have loved me may be in them, and I in them.”

  25. Beloved says:

    Salt and light

    Sad reality here
    2 Corinthians 4:4 In their case the god of this world has blinded the minds of the unbelievers, to keep them from seeing the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God.

  26. Beloved says:

    I Cor 3

    For the wisdom of this world is foolishness in God’s sight. As it is written: “He catches the wise in their craftiness”; 20and again, “The LORD knows that the thoughts of the wise are futile.”

  27. Beloved says:

    Since many here are gearing up for Thanksgiving I thought I would share what is encouraging me today:
    1 Thessalonians 5:16-18

    16 Rejoice always,

    17 pray without ceasing,

    18 give thanks in all circumstances;

    for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus for you.

    Happy Thankful Thanksgiving! No matter the circumstances!

  28. jeff1 says:

    Give thanks to God, for He is good.
    His love endures forever.
    Give praise to Him, the Lord of Lords.
    His love endures forever.
    He spread the earth and sea and sky.
    He filled them all with light and life.
    May God alone be lifted high!
    His love endures forever.

    Give thanks to God, for He is good.
    His love endures forever.
    He brought us out from sin and death.
    His love endures forever.
    He stood and stretched His mighty hand.
    He bowed Himself, became a man –
    A gulf that only love could span.
    His love endures forever.

    Give thanks to God, for He is good.
    His love endures forever.
    We join the song that never ends:
    His love endures forever.
    Praise God, from whom all blessings flow!
    Praise Him, all creatures here below!
    Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!
    His love endures forever.

  29. foreverblessed says:

    So be it
    His love endures forever!

    Col 3:12
    Therefore, as God’s chosen people, holy and dearly loved, clothe yourselves with compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness and patience.

    While James says: if you miss any of these things, ( mentioned above) ASK for them.
    James 1:2-8
    So clothe yourself is humbly asking God to give that to you.
    That took me quite some years to find that out, I thought I had to put on these clothes myself! Working hard…
    But God is merciful, He opened my eyes to see Grace:
    Looking up to Jesus, in faith!
    He will do it in us, by His Spirit,
    So true Beloved!

    Jesus had to go, so the Spirit would come.

    Steve I Amsterdam praying for you and yours, and for Beloved, without medicine, and for Jeff, her troubles.
    Thank you Bratimus for all your prayers.

  30. jeff1 says:

    Thank you Forever.

  31. Beloved says:

    Viv I have always loved Jesus praying for me! To think He wants all believers, past present and future conformed to His image like the family of God we are is so beautiful. And an especially encouraging word for me right now.

    ***********

    Forever thank you for the very kind words, God heard your prayer!

    It’s been 3 months or so and finally the withdrawal is over. It’s so good to be able to weep when needed and instead of feeling despair I go to God immediately and pray. I’m praying much more these days which is good. I have lots of time. God has given me a ” job” I can do, it seems I’m the go to for cell phone problems in my building! Funny. Our government gives free phones to low income people but most of them are over 65 and never even been on the internet, texted tweeted or received any kind of “notification” which they have no clue about. They just want to talk, that’s all! Anyway, I’m doing ok and thank you so much for praying and telling me! So helpful to know you bring me before the throne, just like Jesus! Precious it is to me.

    Blessings and love to you both because of Jesus! He makes me kind and loving, nothing about me was until I met Him.

  32. Beloved says:

    Others here that pray I say thank you very much! So much to be thankful for!

  33. Beloved says:

    viv you mentioned trying to please others. I admit I sometimes avoid intimate conversation with God by just getting busy and doing something, anything. I guess I’m still amazed He loves me so completely since I turned to Him for salvation 40 years ago now. I have to remind myself sometimes my sins are forgiven because of Jesus and forgotten! Completely! God would never bring them up to me, never! The battle is real, here on earth. Oh how I look forward to eternity! Can’t come too soon, come LORD Jesus.

  34. foreverblessed says:

    The word of OC helped me greatly:
    We get discernment
    For intercessory prayer!
    Not for judging

    Steve, I Amsterdam praying for you

    I Am praying for you.

    We had a big sign in Amsterdam, huge red letters, saying:
    I AM()STERDAM

    () being a big red heart.
    It was on the Museum Square, always full of tourists making pictures in front of it.
    It attracted too many tourists. When we got a new major one of the first things she did was taking that sign away.
    Also with the note: I AM was too individualistic:
    We are Amsterdam
    is showing met: being collective.
    But that doesn’t make a nice sign.

    Amsterdam is moaning under all the visitors, the local people are.
    But Amsterdam itself needs lots of prayer
    Lord, see the drugscene, Lord forgive
    See the sexual slavery, Lord have mercy
    See the greed, Lord forgive

  35. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks Jeff, for that Priestly Prayer!!!

    And thanks, Beloved, for the Messenger of the Covenant:
    Jesus Christ!

    (Having problems posting on the site.)

  36. jeff1 says:

    Beloved, I have to feel useful or I feel guilty and so I tend to take on too much and then get overwhelmed and fail others.

    It is what caused my mental breakdown as I tried to juggle a job, bringing up children and looking after the home. My husband was not a family man so he did his own thing and if it where not for my dad and other members of my family I don’t know how I would have managed.

    My sons are adults but carry scars from a lack of a father in their lives and that causes me distress.

    I am also now trying to give some support to their dad as they are both away and I feel it is my place in their absence as he is now suffering from dementia.

    I spent more time running from God than trusting Him and I believe it was my breakdown that brought me closer to Him.

    I am now much better at talking to God than I am at talking to others which is what strengthens me.

    My church is the one I attended from childhood and it has always been a Christ focused church so when I participate in Holy Communion it brings it home to me that I sin but I believe this is also a good reminder for me that I need Jesus to forgive my sins and that stops me when I would otherwise be judgemental or unsympathetic towards others.

    My dad was a great example for me as through the troubles when we were all playing God he was focused on Christ and I noticed that he didn’t become judgemental but stayed grounded in God’s truths and at a time of hatred, violence and conflict that took discipline which I now see was God given rather than man driven.

    The battles we face does test our faith and from my own experiences I have either run from or run to God and that was because when I didn’t understand why God did what He did I was angry with Him.

    In time God has revealed truths to me that show me it is either my negligence or my ignorance of Him that is to blame.

    That says to me that I can trust God but not so much on my own understanding because there is so many things I do not understand.

    Thank you for your comments have enlightened and encouraged at times when I needed it.

    The miraculous work of God and so very hard to get my head around.

  37. poohpity says:

    Praise God, from whom all blessings flow;
    Praise Him, all creatures here below;
    Praise Him above, ye heav’nly host;
    Praise Father, Son, and Holy Ghost!

    Praise God the Father who’s the source;
    Praise God the Son who is the course;
    Praise God the Spirit who’s the flow;
    Praise God, our portion here below!

    For me thanksgiving is something that if I do daily reminds me of all the blessings that I really have because there are times when I take God, the source, for granted and feel entitled. “God blesses those who are poor in spirit and realize their need for Him, for the Kingdom of God is theirs.”

  38. bubbles says:

    I have met some wonderful friends here. This blog has changed and is not the same place it used to be. It has dwindled down to a few and every post becomes a know down drag out argument. Mart speaks of humility and peace and there is none here. It used to be an encouragement to me and now it hurts my heart. I’m just done. I don’t need more strife. I do no understand why it has been allowed to go on. If this was a church and a couple of members constantly created strife, I think something would be done about it. I’m done.

  39. Beloved says:

    Dear bubbles I hear you and am sorry. I’ll try better, I promise. I’ve felt the same, usually blaming others for my own sinful reactions. I will try harder to keep peace. Thanks, Joyce

  40. Beloved says:

    Thankfulness

    Be thankful in all things, for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus

    I am so so VERY thankful for ALL of you! Yes we fight and bicker and are so different in our modes of worship cultures and genders even, yet we ARE the broken Body of Christ here made whole and sanctified by our most gracious merciful and loving Creator. I give Him thanks for today yesterday and tomorrow. And especially for loving concerns troubles and sorrows. Today is the day that the LORD has made, I will rejoice and be glad in it!

  41. Beloved says:

    I just remembered that it’s Gods kindness that leads us to repentance!

  42. poohpity says:

    bubbles, I guess it would be best and right for each one to consider their own contributions rather than always looking at where others are failing or at fault since we are responsible to God for our own actions not those of others. What have you added that would be considered kind, merciful, compassionate, loving and grace filled or even what the topic is about??

  43. Beloved says:

    ◄ 2 Corinthians 4:17 NLT
    For our present troubles are small and won’t last very long. Yet they produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will last forever!

    I’ve been praising and thanking God all day for troubles and blessings; Giving thanks in all things for this is the will of God. Sometimes we have to do something that we don’t have feelings to do, like praise, forgive, give thanks etc. God blesses our obedience to Him. Always!

  44. Beloved says:

    As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.

    A M E N. M A R T !

  45. jeff1 says:

    “Try A Little Kindness”

    If you see your brother standing by the road
    With a heavy load from the seeds he sowed
    And if you see your sister falling by the way
    Just stop and say you’re going’ the wrong way
    You’ve got to try a little kindness yes show a little kindness
    Yes shine your light for everyone to see
    And if you’ll try a little kindness and you’ll overlook the blindness
    Of the narrow minded people on the narrow minded streets

    Don’t walk around the down and out lend a helping hand instead of doubt
    And the kindness that you show every day will help someone along their way
    You’ve got to try a little kindness…
    You’ve got to try a little kindness…

  46. poohpity says:

    A rare event took place this morning my phone sounded an alert of a tornado in our area. Who would have thought? We have dust storms, floods and Haboobs but a tornado. Those things touchdown for a moment and cause such damage, then are gone. I can see so many spiritual implications of that.

    Make a great day everyone enjoying those things and people you have around today, in the here and now, praising God for who He is and the blessing He gives each of us which can be in the storms of life as well. Romans 8:28

  47. poohpity says:

    Just read ODB for today wow it sure does fit with this topic!

  48. Beloved says:

    ODB
    Reflect & Pray
    Why do our words have such a powerful effect on others? How might God want to change your speech?

    Dear God, help me to see how my words affect other people. Show me how to encourage them.

  49. Beloved says:

    Being salt and light this message by Spurgeon today is so good for us ALL! We ALL need this reminder from time to time.

    Approaching Rebuke
    You shall not go around as a slanderer among your people. . . . You shall reason frankly with your neighbor, lest you incur sin because of him.

    Leviticus 19:16-17
    Slander emits a threefold poison, for it injures the teller, the hearer, and the person who is being slandered. Whether the report is true or false, we are by this precept of God’s Word forbidden to spread it.

    The reputations of the Lord’s people should be very precious in our sight, and we should regard it as shameful to help the devil dishonor the church and the name of the Lord. Some tongues need a bridle rather than a spur.

    Many rejoice in putting down their brothers and sisters, as if in doing so they raised themselves. Noah’s wise sons cast a covering over their father, and the one who exposed him earned a fearful curse.

    We may ourselves one of these dark days need leniency and silence from our family; let us offer it cheerfully to those who require it now. Let this be our family motto, and our personal bond: Speak evil of no man.

    The Holy Spirit, however, permits us to censure sin and prescribes the way in which we are to do it. It must be done by rebuking our brother to his face, not by talking behind his back.

    This approach is manly, brotherly, Christlike, and under God’s blessing will be useful.

    Do we shy away from it? Then we must lay the greater stress upon our conscience and commit ourselves to the responsibility, in case by tolerating sin in our friend we become partakers of it.

    Hundreds have been saved from gross sins by the timely, wise, affectionate warnings of faithful friends and family. Our Lord Jesus has set us a gracious example of how to deal with erring friends in His warning given to Peter, the prayer with which He preceded it, and the gentle way in which He endured Peter’s boastful denial that he needed such a caution.

  50. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, Bubbles, that is a problem here, there seems to be no moderator that steps in. So when you join here, you ought to have a body of believers around you, who can pray for you.
    Or as Mart wrote: pray for those who bully you:

    “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”

    That is the work the Holy Spirit will accomplish in us, if we kill with Jesus’ help the evil antagonistic spirit within us, that wells up in us when we feel wrongly accused.

    There are other sites on our daily bread ministeries, with lovely blogs at the end, uplifting, encouraging.

    My Utmost today:
    “….Jesus said, “…when He, the Spirit of truth, has come,…He will glorify Me…” (John 16:13-14). When I commit myself to the revealed truth of the New Testament, I receive from God the gift of the Holy Spirit, who then begins interpreting to me what Jesus did. The Spirit of God does in me internally all that Jesus Christ did for me externally.”

    I have to vacuümclean the house.
    Be blessed today, praying for you Beloved.
    (I have written about stopping to use medicine myself, 10 years ago. I couldn’t post it, let’s see if I can find it. Saved somewhere.)

  51. Beloved says:

    Thank you Forever your prayers are precious to me you made me smile:-) which feels so good!

    Here is the Peter reference Spurgeon was talking about:
    Jesus Predicts Peter’s Denial
    (Matthew 26:31-35; Mark 14:27-31; John 13:36-38)
    31Simon, Simon, Satan has asked to sift each of you like wheat. 32But I have prayed for you, Simon, that your faith will not fail. And when you have turned back, strengthen your brothers.”

    33“Lord,” said Peter, “I am ready to go with You even to prison and to death.”

    34But Jesus replied, “I tell you, Peter, the rooster will not crow today until you have denied three times that you know Me.”

  52. foreverblessed says:

    ( found, I could save it, when posting was impossible)

    God bless you Beloved, and everybody here.
    I have used medicine for migraine. 10 years ago I started. From one type of medicine to another. They helped 3 months, and then I had to proceed to the next level.
    Till I came to the Beta blockers.
    That was a strange encounter: my feeling went numb!!!

    And another effect: I had that selfsame day, the first day I used them, heart rythm problems. They never had been so severe.

    That was an easy decision:
    I could cope with two days headache in two weeks, Just being alone with God, seeking Him only. I saw it as a training.
    But without these medicines.
    I would rather chose that, instead of the bad side effects of that medicine.
    As a side-note: This is just to share my story. As I am well aware that stopping medicine against migraine is not a dangerous decision. And not an example to follow when coping with other illnesses.

  53. Beloved says:

    I just had an aha moment. O Chambers talked about becoming shallow in our faith, I think it means to not take offense so easily but to give praise and thanks in every situation; even on a seemingly unmonitored (by humans) blog, but surely monitored by the Holy Spirit within each of us. Sometimes I find myself waiting on God longer than I think He should take, silly, He is sovereign and I am NOT. I repent.

  54. foreverblessed says:

    Hello Beloved, we are here at the same time!
    It is 17.00 here, and it is vettige dark!
    Oh ths dark times before Christmas, dark, as outside weather being darke.
    May God shine with the Light of Christ in our hearts!

    Spurgeon says: we must speak out face to face! In a spirit of love.
    I guess: Jesus was harsh for the Pharasees, yet loved thema so deerlye that He was willing to die for them.
    In THAT spirit of love, which only comes from God.
    But on this site there is no backup from uitgereden up.
    So I just bless and pray.
    Intercessory prayer!

  55. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, that is it: take your offense to Jesus, He carries it on the Cross.
    But boy, what a long way till we learn that!

    But if that does not go well yet, it is better to quit here.
    And getting strong in Jesus somewhere else.

    (It is getting dark here, not heftige dark….)

  56. SFDBWV says:

    Too much salt and living things cannot survive, too much light is blinding.

    Just the right amount gives flavor and sight.

    No one anywhere likes to be told how to think or how they should feel.

    The very first Psalm advises not to sit in the seat of the “scornful”.

    The written Word being inspired by the one and “only” God gives us timeless advice as to how we should live among and interact with others.

    Prophets were empowered and anointed by God to specifically speak for Him.

    I have observed in life that when we deviate from His advice, example and urging we cause more damage than assistance to another.

    Being able to recognize good behavior from bad is a protective measure instilled in us from our creation.

    If by our words, deeds or actions our only accomplishment is offending another, then perhaps we should remain silent and meditate upon how to change discouragement into encouragement, hard feelings into tender feelings and bitterness into sweetness.

    I learned in life long ago that you cannot make a drunkard ashamed of being a drunkard by telling them they are wasting their lives and in a place of self-destruction. They actually feed upon such negative commentary addressed to them.

    Our problem here on BTA is twofold, the person who causes problems and the person who allows it.

    Sorry that is just the truth. We all know it and carefully avoid saying it, but it hasn’t helped to be bold or silent. Nothing has changed as we continue to dwindle down to the few we are.

    Not wanting to sound scornful, only an appeal to hopefully cleanse/heal our association and grow in Christ instead of watching BTA die a slow and ugly death.

    Matt continues to heal well and enjoyed his Thanksgiving meal yesterday. Thank you all for your continued prayers and support.

    Steve

  57. Beloved says:

    Forever it is 11am here, just getting going with household chores. No sun with a snow storm on the horizon with possibly 8-12 inches of snow. It usually comes on the lighter side though being on the continental divide. Have a good nights rest.

  58. Beloved says:

    My posts display an hour later than real-time, time change I guess here.

  59. poohpity says:

    From my observations the blog started down hill when the very first guideline was not followed which was #1 Stay on topic but people thought they new better and went off in many directions which was what had caused many to stop. Then there were was picking winners and losers and not respectfully agreeing to disagreeing with kindness and grace which the other guidelines covered which are the same one’s that ODB has for their comment guidelines.

    At one time there were moderators on here but the problems it seemed became overwhelming so rather than stop the blog entirely just pulled away from the ODB ministries. He made several comments and still does but they fall on deaf ears it seems because people feel he is making them towards others, if one even understands what he is saying, and not the one reading it.

    Just think if everyone left on here were to judge and critically hear their own responses and comments rather than those of others how much of a difference that would make but blame and finger pointing is the norm instead.

    People even say slanderous things towards Mart, go figure and this is his blog. He is the leader here.

    Now I thought the comments were going along well when we were talking about the topic until one person threw a wrench in the works now here we are back again talking about others and how much that one person is ruining this blog when in reality it may just be those who are accusing that are the real problems.

  60. Beloved says:

    I remember years ago Maru musing that maybe this is a place for some who need a special place to grow in their sanctification. I’ve never forgotten that. So graceful. Street also said when he first came that this is a good place to grow. I keep that in mind also. Oh the sovereignty of God! Gotta love it! Amen!

  61. street says:

    From my observations the blog started down hill when the very first guideline was not followed which was #1 Stay on topic but people thought they new better and went off in many directions which was what had caused many to stop.

    this reminds me of the first few chapters of Romans, how the law, as good as it was, was powerless to save us.

  62. street says:

    No one anywhere likes to be told how to think or how they should feel.

    or what to do!

    He makes me lay down in green pastures.

    Our problem here on BTA is twofold, the person who causes problems and the person who allows it.

    thinking of God creating satan. seems like the adversity and the hurdles before us are made by God too. thinking of job, the righteous one.

    thinking of job noah and daniel. the clean up batters in God’s line up. then we see the judges the kings and the prophets. then finally His Son and His Apostles. salt and light in a world of darkness and tastelessness. the light shines brightest with the backdrop of darkness. some day the darkness will be completely removed.

    as for being silent….that can hurt you too…..thinking of the watchman in Ezekiel. the hard part is loving those you serve. may God uphold you and strengthen you steve.

  63. street says:

    Yes, Bubbles, that is a problem here, there seems to be no moderator that steps in. So when you join here, you ought to have a body of believers around you, who can pray for you.

    is the Holy Spirit chopped liver or a moderator?

    do we control the Holy Spirit or does the Holy Spirit control us? seems to me there should be salt and light here. i do love the personalities here and the conflict. don’t think there is growth without it. even if it is slow sometimes and repetitive, yet i believe it is liner too.

    Luke 11:13
    If you then, being evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask Him?”

    if we have the Holy Spirit in all believers, how now should we live? you might want to take that up with the Son of God, Jesus.

    you call me Lord, but don’t do what I say?

    thinking…..For if we died with Him, we will also live with Him;
    12
    If we endure, we will also reign with Him;
    If we will deny Him, He also will deny us;
    13
    If we are faithless, He remains faithful, for He cannot deny Himself.

  64. foreverblessed says:

    You have said that before, Street, that the Holy Spirit is the Moderator….
    If that is so, why would Jesus give instructions what to do when you have been mistreated?
    In Matthew 18:15-19
    There seems to be a church discipline!

  65. jeff1 says:

    Father, Father,
    Holy and loving,
    Forgive, forgive.
    Father, Father,
    I am unworthy,
    Forgive, forgive.

    You know my thoughts,
    My anxiousness and pride.
    You hear my words,
    So careless and unkind.

    Create in me
    A heart that’s clean and new.
    Restore my love,
    And let me walk with You.

  66. foreverblessed says:

    My utmost today
    ” For the Grace of God I am who I am”

    1 Kor 15:10

    Paul had been a very violent man.
    The Word: “Without God all things are possible”
    are very true in Paul’s life.
    If we keep our eyes on Jesus, take all our frustration to Him, and leave them at the foot of the Cross.
    But boy, that is done in discipline, going again and again.
    So Bubbles, take your frustration to the Cross, otherwise, notify Mart himself, but writing it here only gives more fuel to the fire, someone concluding: see how they hate me.

    But the sitting at the Cross, takes time, sit there and ask for peace, calmness, self-control.

    Wait upon the Lord
    Psalm 27:14
    Well, at least that is what I am learning here.

  67. poohpity says:

    forever let me ask you one question, is it a sin to disagree with someone? When you go to someone alone and discuss the sin that they did against you shouldn’t it be an actual sin in the first place. The new Commandment of Jesus is ““A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. 35 By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another.”

    Loving someone, as in being the salt and light, one could conclude is not lying about them or spreading false rumors or being critical but treating them the same way you want to be treated not the way they treat you.

  68. poohpity says:

    Is it a sin to not believe something someone says?

  69. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Pooh,
    I pray that God blesses you manifold, that He may shine with the Light of Jesus in your heart and mind.
    That He wraps His arms around you, and hugs you.
    In the mean time, I wait….

  70. poohpity says:

    So you could not answer those questions about what sin is? As far as your prayer goes it has been answered and more blessing upon those the Lord has done in my life. I am waiting for Him to work in your life as I lift prayers up for you.

  71. poohpity says:

    Forever do you think that what you prayed for and the snide comment “I wait” show godliness or the command of Jesus? Or does it show the thoughts of superiority and pride?

  72. poohpity says:

    I shared this 6 years ago on facebook, “Do not expect others to be who you think they should be then disappointment will find another place to reside. Love them for who they are, where they are and how they are.” I think that same way today.

  73. Beloved says:

    Sometimes it’s best to just leave…
    ****************
    So how’s the weather there? Our snowstorm is just getting started good and is supposed to continue all day! Steve I hope Ezekiel doesn’t cause too many problems your way, Happy to hear you are feeling better.

    *******************
    A thought, what grieves the Holy Spirit?

  74. Beloved says:

    there is a wonderful thing I discovered its called “refresh”. I can write on here my true feelings then just hit refresh and it’s all said but gone! Only God knows and can work in me privately as His Holy Spirit is always working in me to please Him, which is my desire. Refreshments are so good!

  75. poohpity says:

    I just hope that one day you all will look at your own speech and actions with the same intensity, judgement and criticism as you do mine? Then maybe there will come a time with the help of the Holy Spirit when the true understanding of grace will sink into your hearts and minds.

  76. Beloved says:

    I don’t think grace overlooks sin. But it gives me the opportunity to change my mind ( repent) to do what is pleasing to God and be at peace with the family of God. Salt and light are not just for unbelievers but useful within the Body also.

  77. Beloved says:

    Worth repeating now:

    Looking back, being or claiming to be his followers, sons, or daughters, didn’t make them salt or light. Neither did miracles, eloquence, or claims of God-given authority.

    As the Teacher had said, what would make his people good for the world, then and now, was wrapped in humility, tears, gentleness, honorable desires, mercy, integrity, peacemaking, and willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he did.

    What’s “good for the world” should be standard Family practice.

  78. Beloved says:

    SCRIPTURE UNION talks about family squabbles, it’s long but worth the time to read and think about.

    HOW GRACE APPEARS
    Opening Prayer
    Lord, cover me with Your grace and mercy like a blanket.

    TITUS 3:1–15
    Saved in Order to Do Good
    3 Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, 2 to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and always to be gentle toward everyone.

    3 At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures. We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. 4 But when the kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, 5 he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, 6 whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, 7 so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life. 8 This is a trustworthy saying. And I want you to stress these things, so that those who have trusted in God may be careful to devote themselves to doing what is good. These things are excellent and profitable for everyone.

    9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless. 10 Warn a divisive person once, and then warn them a second time. After that, have nothing to do with them. 11 You may be sure that such people are warped and sinful; they are self-condemned.

    Final Remarks
    12 As soon as I send Artemas or Tychicus to you, do your best to come to me at Nicopolis, because I have decided to winter there. 13 Do everything you can to help Zenas the lawyer and Apollos on their way and see that they have everything they need. 14 Our people must learn to devote themselves to doing what is good, in order to provide for urgent needs and not live unproductive lives.

    15 Everyone with me sends you greetings. Greet those who love us in the faith.

    Grace be with you all

    Meditate
    Consider
    Reflect in prayer on the day ahead, especially your encounters with other people and particularly those who are not Christians. Ask that Jesus will be seen in you.

    Think Further
    Moving to issues of Christian living in the public square, in verses 1 and 2 Paul begins by urging the Cretan believers through Titus to behave as model citizens, even under Roman rule. How does the demeanor required of believers in verse 2 compare with the general tone of public oratory in society today? Can you recall, or imagine, a public debate in which a Christian contribution carried the tone described here?

    Throughout the pastoral epistles, lifestyle and its underlying theology are interwoven. Such is also true of this chapter, the theology arriving in verses 4–7. This is one long sentence in the original Greek, perhaps quoted from an early creed, and here we find a rich exposition of the central phrase “he saved us” (5). Note from these verses: (1) who saved us, (2) what our salvation rests on, (3) the means by which salvation comes to us and (4) the hope salvation creates in us. We find in verse 3 a description of what we were saved from and in verse 8 a reminder of what should be the evidence of our salvation, seen by those around us. This brings us back to where the chapter began: the behavior of Christians in society. The instructions in verses 9–11 concerning “foolish controversies” and “divisive” people reissue the question posed when looking at 2 Timothy 2:23–26: when is a cause of disagreement among Christians sufficient to warrant a withdrawal of fellowship? However we may answer this, it is clear from this chapter that self-righteousness has no place in Christian ethics or debate. In verse 15 the letter ends as it began, as do our Christian lives: with “grace.”

    Apply
    In what situations and by what behavior is God calling you to model “grace” in your dealings with those with whom you disagree, both inside and outside the church?

    Closing Prayer
    Lord, help me to maintain good works, even though I am still saved by grace

  79. poohpity says:

    Beloved, what sin have I committed that I am continuously being accused of. You are right grace does not overlook sin, it covers it! Like I said no understanding of grace yet but hopefully one day.

  80. Beloved says:

    When you feel that everyone is against you it is your gift from God so you turn to Him for your needs, instead of people. He wants all of you, and the more you know Him the greater love your heart will feel. Then you have that same love to give to others.

  81. Beloved says:

    Jesus sacrifice removed (covered) our sin, it God’s grace that gave us Jesus.

  82. Beloved says:

    “Believe on the LORD Jesus Christ and you will be saved.”

  83. Beloved says:

    Then you will receive the gift of the Holy Spirit, to comfort, guide teach reprove rebuke etc.

  84. Beloved says:

    Even those who don’t know Jesus are recipients of God’s benevolence and benificence because of His grace, unlike before Jesus death.

  85. Beloved says:

    Grace is/should be very humbling and as the devotional said we all need to learn how to be graceful to one another and pray others will see Jesus- not grace- but the living God in each of us.

  86. poohpity says:

    A reply to your 11:10am comment Beloved, that is what the Holy Spirit does in our lives not for us to use those things against others as Paul taught in 2 Tim 3:16-17 NLT;
    “All Scripture is inspired by God and is useful to teach us what is true and to make us realize what is wrong in our lives. It corrects us when we are wrong and teaches us to do what is right. 17God uses it to prepare and equip his people to do every good work.” Teaches us to be salt and light.

    The Holy Spirit does not teach us how to call others names or assume what their relationship is with God or if one thinks that someone is lacking in some area to point that out, does not help us point out the faults or failures in others but helps us look within to see no person has any room to talk about others or spread malicious lies and slander.

  87. Beloved says:

    Condemning those who condemn is not of the Holy Spirit either.

  88. Beloved says:

    Luke 6:28 New International Version (NIV)

    28 bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you.

    Forever is always saying this AND even if the “ persecution” is all in your mind it’s still a good command to follow. And God WILL give you peace and even show you a way to get along better with people. He’s working on me about this too. A Good Work in progress, His work. Jesus yoke is easy and His burden is light. Submission.

  89. street says:

    forever ?
    could you call this blog a church or a public square?

    either way it looks like a mission field or a mine field.

    seek and abide in the truth that leads to godliness.

    if it doesn’t lead to godliness you have to ask what am i missing? some hurdles are easier than other hurdles. i am not thinking of physical hurdles even though there are physical hurdles to overcome too.

  90. Beloved says:

    Forever I remember now your struggles with medication for migraines. I agree medication that is needed and works should always be taken. Do you still get them?

  91. Beloved says:

    My own decision (prompted by the H S) to quit my antidepressant was the weight gain which too much serotonin causes and heart issues that could come up. Being my age now I don’t need any more issues. I’ve sometimes wondered if it was a placebo effect since I’ve always gone to others and meds for help first, instead of going to God first. I’m doing ok. Much closer to God and trusting Him more as I go to Him more often as I said already.

    Disclaimer: Not saying anyone else should do this. This is just my experience my life. We are all different.

  92. poohpity says:

    Beloved do you have problems getting along with people?(2:32pm comment) There you go again accusing me and what leads you to think I have that problem? I happen to be very gregarious which attracts people to me and have no problems with listening or talking with people. I have lived in the same apartment complex for 18 years and went to the church before this one for 23 years then after my mom died I looked around for another home church closer to where I live and found the one I have been attending for the last 6 years. Been very involved in my community and church community, so I would say to do that I have to get along with people wouldn’t you say?

    When I run into problems with someone I usually try to go to them and talk it out to reconcile the rift by admitting my part of the problem and then apologize, I do not demand them to admit what they did because that is not my job only my part. I do that in my apartment complex and church. Am I able to mend every relationship that I have problems of course not but it is worth it for me to try but I still treat them kindly anyway. Like I have said over a dozen times you do not know me at all to be able to judge who I am.

  93. Beloved says:

    You owe me no explanation it’s between you and God. Not even sure where you are coming from but misunderstandings are common where you I and others are involved. Peace, tell God and be at peace. And pray for this troublemaker please. Thanks. I can’t give you peace only Jesus can.

  94. Beloved says:

    Here on the blog Pooh, I was talking about relationships here not at home or church.

  95. Beloved says:

    Which you have been complaining about people treating you badly.

  96. Beloved says:

    Please forgive me Pooh.

    My use of scripture is offensive to you. But being a Christian blog its all I want to know about is what Gods will and mind are for all including me. I assume others want to know also. That assuming again, -:( You say I do it a lot, you are right. I’m confused right now but God will help me figure it out.

  97. Beloved says:

    Psalm 32:5-7 English Standard Version (ESV)

    5 I acknowledged my sin to you,
    and I did not cover my iniquity;
    I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord,”
    and you forgave the iniquity of my sin. Selah

    6 Therefore let everyone who is godly
    offer prayer to you at a time when you may be found;
    surely in the rush of great waters,
    they shall not reach him.
    7 You are a hiding place for me;
    you preserve me from trouble;
    you surround me with shouts of deliverance. Selah

  98. poohpity says:

    Beloved, I pray for God to give you the ability to love yourself as He loves you then that will result in the ability to love others too! And isn’t that what the will of God is in a nut shell?

  99. foreverblessed says:

    We wait for You….

    Come, Holy Spirit, the Church waits for YouTube.
    Come to the Bride with Your Love.
    We’ve waited so long
    and we long for Your Touch.
    Crowd out our pride with Your song

    We’ve waited in hope and we’ve waited in sin.
    For the key to our Joy
    We need the sun to enlighten our lives
    and Hope and Love.

    Come Holy Spirit, bring us Your fire.
    We wait for Jesus,
    our Hope and Desire.
    Come Holy Spirit, burn away fear
    and bring us to Jesus.

    Another song:
    We wait for You
    Shekina Glory

  100. foreverblessed says:

    YouTube is You.

    Today is the first Step of Advent..

    We wait for Jesus
    To appear, on this blog too.
    A mine field….
    Or a Mission Field.

    “I am always with you, now and forever”
    In a minefield and in the Mission field
    His Face we seek
    Jesus!

  101. foreverblessed says:

    Been reading all the comments of last night.
    Beloved, you have given Pooh very good advice.
    Now we wait till she stops the accusing and starts blessing!
    I trust Jesus!
    “With God all things are possible”

  102. Beloved says:

    36 “Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37 And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38 This is the great and first commandment.

    Yes Forever! “With God all things are possible” This I believe and put all of my hope and trust in. That she is praying for me encourages me also. I focus on Jesus and wait to see what He will do or not do. Patient endurance is called for and knowing when to be silent is also important. Waiting on God…

  103. Beloved says:

    The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much!

  104. Beloved says:

    Pooh said,

    “When I run into problems with someone I usually try to go to them and talk it out to reconcile the rift by admitting my part of the problem and then apologize“

    That’s a great thing you do off the blog, but…

  105. foreverblessed says:

    Indeed, that was a beautiful prayer from Pooh for you!
    That’s great!
    And it is also nice of you to accept that prayer!

    Accepting a blessing is
    Being humble.

  106. Beloved says:

    Ha ha I need all the prayers I can get! Without Jesus I’d have no reason to go on living; He’s my very blood sweat tears and being. In Him I trust!

  107. poohpity says:

    If one trusts in God then why would one feel the need to to sit on His throne of judgement and not show the amount of grace shown to them? That only happens when one does NOT trust God but trusts in and of themselves even though they do not know the heart of another.

  108. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Pooh, dearest beloved child of God: try blessing us!
    It really works!

  109. bratimus says:

    Touching on a little of what Steve said, yes sometimes staying silent keeping to oneself is a good habit.

    Through human nature some will act the same towards you no matter what you do. This is due to the conflict the competition that one’s human nature raises within. These people are actually in conflict with themselves, and will lash out at others because there human nature says they are competing with you and trying to make you look bad, this is in part because the evil one influences one’s human nature lies to it and manipulates it. Sometimes your stuck around this people and what ever you do the react the same.

    Through Christ Jesus the Holy Spirit can help one conquer their human nature.

    This has been some of my experience in life, and I know some say “no matter what I do, I still get the conflict from someone.” This is just the way of things, be prayerful about it and God deal with it and avoid it as much as you can. Some do make it hard Lord God!!!

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  110. Beloved says:

    Yes! I do trust in God for poohs and everyone’s salvation! God bless us all!

  111. Beloved says:

    Yesterday I pointed my sister to Jesus on FB. She also is an upstanding member of many years of a southern baptist church, tithes, does many good works and is very gregarious and outgoing with lots of friends; a leader in her church! But, just a simple sentence suggesting Jesus is why we celebrate Christmas and she took offense! I’m sure she’s thinking how judgemental of me to say such a thing because she is, after all, already a Christian! Amazing how sensitive we really are to that 2 edged sword Jesus brings with Him. There’s no avoiding it if we are in Christ. Praying for her also. Salt and light, what good is it if it’s lost it’s flavor and become dark.

  112. Beloved says:

    Good insight Bratimus!

  113. Beloved says:

    Heart; I think you can judge another’s heart by what they say and do, don’t say and don’t know. It’s being wise as a serpent; the tricky part is being gentle as doves in response. As you so aptly said Brat human nature has a tendency to twist and control and lash back. It’s a beast! But more of Christ is what we need. He’s the way truth and life. Who else do I have that gives me eternal life.

  114. Beloved says:

    Love and grace only come through the cross of Christ Jesus. If you sidestep these you blaspheme the Name of God. His rule, not mine.

  115. Beloved says:

    Romans 12:17–21 (ESV): 17 Repay no one evil for evil, but give thought to do what is honorable in the sight of all. 18 If possible, so far as it depends on you, live peaceably with all. 19 Beloved, never avenge yourselves, but leave it to the wrath of God, for it is written, “Vengeance is mine, I will repay, says the Lord.” 20 To the contrary, “if your enemy is hungry, feed him; if he is thirsty, give him something to drink; for by so doing you will heap burning coals on his head.” 21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

    (Burning coals refers to a change of heart and mind which can be either accepted or rejected.) But because of grace the chance to change ones heart and mind are given through Christ Jesus.

  116. Beloved says:

    Meditating on the heart…

    As one of my friends from Colorado would say, Oh yes honey, we all know what’s in your heart! How? Because the Bible says so and if we are honest with God and others it’s our own heart also!

    “the heart is deceitful above all things”

    “I will give you a heart of flesh (Jesus) for your heart of stone“

    Not only the heart is bad but the lips “out of the mouth comes cursing and blessing”???

    And the tongue “causes many a fire” James also.

    So with the mess we already are the only thing that makes sense is to look to Jesus who knows and has the Mind we seek after but will never fully attain here and now. Humility takes the ability to drop defensive posturing and let God be God; He’s so so so good!

  117. bratimus says:

    When it comes to human nature even in Christians we tend to head into a 3 edge sword their side my side and the truth of God we some what forget. The truth Christ will split the sword right down the middle until all that remains is the Truth of Christ Jesus.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  118. Beloved says:

    Reminds me of denominational doctrinal differences. As you say, the Truth of Christ will remain. Everything else will be burned up including our good works.

  119. jeff1 says:

    From our Holy Communion Service today.

    1 I am not worthy, holy Lord,
    that you should come to me:
    but speak the word! one gracious word
    can set the sinner free.

    2 I am not worthy cold and bare
    the lodging of my soul:
    how can you stoop to enter here?
    Lord, speak and make me whole.

    3 I am not worthy; yet, my God,
    shall I turn you away
    when you have given your flesh and blood
    my ransom price to pay?

    4 Come, feed me now with food divine
    in the appointed hour,
    and this unworthy heart of mine
    fill with your love and power!

  120. poohpity says:

    Yes one can tell what is in the heart of another by what comes out of their mouth because it does reveal the true heart. So are we filled with love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, gentleness, long suffering and self control? Or rudeness, slander, gossip, hatred, discord, jealousy, idolatry or favoritism, rage; rivalries, divisions, factions and false testimony.

    It does not say anything about if someone disagrees or does not believe what another says. That is not a sin but it may be to the one who is disagreed with or is the one someone does not believe what they say. Those may hurt the pride of another but it is not a sin.

  121. poohpity says:

    If I remember right there was only ONE that was able to live perfectly and He alone showed us that even though we aren’t able to He still loves us enough to take our punishment upon His body and taught us that the one’s who are spiritual will look at the sin in their own lives and be very careful about not throwong stones at others. Or did I miss something?

  122. poohpity says:

    Gal 6:1-2 NLT

  123. poohpity says:

    We Harvest What We Plant

    Dear brothers and sisters, if another believer* is overcome by some sin, you who are godly* should gently and humbly help that person back onto the right path. And be careful not to fall into the same temptation yourself. 2 Share each other’s burdens, and in this way obey the law of Christ. 3 If you think you are too important to help someone, you are only fooling yourself. You are not that important.

    4 Pay careful attention to your own work, for then you will get the satisfaction of a job well done, and you won’t need to compare yourself to anyone else. 5 For we are each responsible for our own conduct.

  124. poohpity says:

    Foreverblessed, doesn’t sharing the teaching of Jesus bless you? If that is not a blessing then I do not know what else could be because it comes from the heart of someone who just loves the Lord, imperfect as that love actually is.

  125. foreverblessed says:

    Jesus is the One Who saved me. He came down to get me out of the pit of depression. He grabbed me, and held me close to His heart, He warmed my heart.
    This is the One I praise, this is the One I worship.

    We all here worship Jesus.
    He is the Truth, the Life, the Resurrection,
    He is the Living Word.
    Hebrews 1:1-2
    “In the past God spoke to our ancestors through the prophets at many times and in various ways, but in these last days he has spoken to us by his Son, whom he appointed heir of all things, and through whom also he made the universe.”

    We are all worshipping Jesus, all partakers on this blog.

    Imagine us, walking up to the Sanctuary, singing together:
    O come let us adore Him
    O come let us adore Him

  126. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Pooh, Beloved gave you very good advice:
    To you, who often complains that this blog is a gang, that we show mobsters mentality.
    Every time you that you want to write here what a gang we are:
    Start blessing us!

    You can do it Pooh!

  127. jeff1 says:

    As I looked around me in church I see not only dwindling numbers but a lack of attendance of the younger generation.

    I am not pointing the finger as my sons (though away) are among those falling away from their faith.

    I had a conversation with my Roman Catholic hairdresser some time ago and she said that after revelations of abuse by their clergy their younger generation also fell away.

    This shows that words alone are not enough as our actions speak louder and so what we do or don’t do does effect our children and grandchildren and so our failures becomes their failures.

    I do well to remember that when I hand out advice to others because if they see I am doing one thing and saying another I can be sure that they will not take me seriously nor should I expect them too.

    Words are like weapons they hurt sometimes and living in a country where many use words to do just that I see why there is a falling away from religions.

    When an English soldier remarked to me that he felt nearer to God fishing than in church I was somewhat sceptical but 40 years on and my mind has altered somewhat when it comes to making assumptions about others.

    In truth I don’t believe religions have done God any favours so I am not that surprised that church attendances are in the decline and somewhere in my mind is the thought that it is no surprise to God.

    He does see so much deeper than I often give Him credit for and so I have stopped assuming that though church is the place where I worship God it is not necessary where others do.

    God has no country nor church either and so with that in mind I shall not make assumptions that falling away from churches or religions necessarily means a falling away from God.

    My thinking is somewhat altered as to how God works as in my very limited view of Him I have overlooked that His view is not limited at all.

    How lovely on the mountains are the feet of Him
    Who brings good news, good news
    Proclaiming peace, announcing news of happiness
    Our God reigns, our God reigns

    Our God reigns, our God reigns
    Our God reigns, our God reigns

    You watchmen lift your voices joyfully asone
    Shout for your King, your King
    See eye to eye the Lord restoring Zion
    Your God reigns, your God reigns!
    Waste places of Jerusalem break forth with joy
    We are redeemed, redeemed
    The Lord has saved and comforted His people
    Your God reigns, your God reigns!

    Ends of the earth, see the salvation of your God
    Jesus is Lord, is Lord
    Before the nations He has bared His holy arm
    Your God reigns, your God reigns!

  128. Beloved says:

    Good morning, 6:45 am and I did not sleep well last night for a couple reasons but Forever I prayed and thought of you and Pooh throughout. Such a difficult thing to see a Christian badger a dear friend as you are to me! Painful as these things don’t change on here. Painful! Mines are activated just when you think they are finally disarmed! It really hurts my heart; imagining how God must be grieved by it all and how long He will allow it to continue.

    But no one gets to heaven unscathed Peter reminds us. Remember how in humility he asked to be hung upside down as he didn’t even feel worthy to be hung like our Precious LORD? My heart groans and stomach churns like the wood of the cross must have groaned under the weight of the body. Oh to be like Him! Be careful what you ask for. Be very sure Christ alone is all you want ( speaking to myself here).

    Return unto thy rest, oh my soul. For the LORD has dealt bountifully with thee.

  129. poohpity says:

    Viv, you said, “I do well to remember that when I hand out advice to others because if they see I am doing one thing and saying another I can be sure that they will not take me seriously nor should I expect them too.”. I could not agree with you more.

    It would seem that rather than embracing a person for who they are, we give out advise and critiques because one wants them to be like they are. Beloved, forever, and others tell me how I should act because they want me to be like them, well I am OK with being who God created me to be.

    forever, I never said anything about “mobsters mentality” that cracked me up I guess it has to do with the language differences however I did say “mob mentality” that is like one person does something so whether right or wrong people join in, like sheep not listening to their Shepard but to each other being lead over a cliff or in other words the blind leading the blind.

    We only have one Good Shepard but how can one do what He teaches if they are not familiar with the process of how we are guided and taught to live?

    There is only ONE person who can change us and when He brings to light what we forget when we walk away from a mirror and when He exposes our hearts He does not do it to bring shame but to bring us to humility that no one has any room to talk about others. God uses His word, like we learned in the last topic from what Paul wrote to Timothy, to root out our real heart condition.

    Hebrews 4: For the word of God is living and active. Sharper than any double-edged sword, it pierces even to dividing soul and spirit, joints and marrow. It judges the thoughts and intentions of the heart. 13Nothing in all creation is hidden from God’s sight; everything is uncovered and exposed before the eyes of Him to whom we must give account.…

  130. Beloved says:

    Pooh you are as embraceable as a porcupine, lol!

  131. Beloved says:

    Stop badgering people here, Pooh.

    Your larger than life personality has driven many here away. I accept this is who you are, but is it really who you want to be? We here are about discussing ways we are growing closer to God through changing perceptions about Him which sin has blinded us to. And in our changing perceptions we are changed into His likeness! From glory to glory!

    You keep saying it’s no ones business and when we share scripture to encourage you turn it down then post scripture to use to justify yourself—Blinded completely to what God is trying to say to you. Yes the Word is offensive to the ungodly, But there will come a time when the hardness of our hearts will find us all alone and miserable. God has hardened hearts before (pharaoh) as His will will be done. In the meantime:
    But the Lord just laughs, for he sees their day of judgment coming.

    Is the lord you serve and trust for salvation the True God of the Bible? The Pharisees also knew scripture, Jesus said unless they changed they would be lost forever. If so you would be more like us, gentle humble and kind. Not perfectly but always working at it.

    More advice: examine yourself to see if you are in the LORD. You also Viv I should add. Best advice you will ever get. If you are wise you will listen. Peter said. Who else would I follow, only You have the Words of life! Good news, repent and be saved.

    If this is offensive to you you have lots of company. I’m not trying to “ save” anybody; only God can do that.

  132. poohpity says:

    If we live off of the praise of people then we will be crushed under their criticism. This is what Jesus said about the praise of people, “For they loved human praise more than the praise of God.” or “How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God?”

    So Beloved if you do not have the power to save who gives you the power or right to judge or criticize? If you consider yourself gentle, humble and kind then certainly you have been deceived and who is the father of deception? Look to John 8:44 NLT for the answer. Do you consider the things you say to me gentle, humble and kind no matter if I was your greatest enemy which I am not that shows that it is the flesh speaking because even regular people treat others kindly that are kind back but showing the love of God is being kind even to those who are not kind back. So who is it you actually follow, the One you claim to or the one you actually are?

  133. Beloved says:

    See you did it again.

  134. Beloved says:

    Living off the praise of men was told to the Pharisees because they trusted the law not God. Fellowship between believers means sharing joys sorrows building up encouraging congratulations even an atta boy now and then. You need to get your head out of the law to become a healthy participant in the fellowship of believers. Are you that blind?

  135. street says:

    i have a praise! when i went to church yesterday all the front door panels of glass were boarded up with plywood!

    i am thinking we are finally on the map in satans agenda.

    don’t know the story behind it, perhaps i am premature in my thinking. we shall see.

    I also say to you that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build My church; and the gates of Hades will not overpower it.

    thinking of the cost.

    47 “Again, the kingdom of heaven is like a dragnet cast into the sea, and gathering fish of every kind; 48 and when it was filled, they drew it up on the beach; and they sat down and gathered the good fish into containers, but the bad they threw away. 49 So it will be at the [y]end of the age; the angels will come forth and [z]take out the wicked from among the righteous, 50 and will throw them into the furnace of fire; in that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

  136. Beloved says:

    Street you’ll have to explain about praising the church being boarded up. Thanks

  137. Beloved says:

    Or are you just being “salty” lol!!

  138. street says:

    the front doors are new from a remodel project. the glass has not been put in them yet.

    come to think of it He makes all things New!

    there is peace. and i am thankful!

  139. street says:

    light and salt

    more of a wild speculator trying to understand the times and the Glory of the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

  140. jeff1 says:

    Beloved says:
    December 2, 2019 at 9:58 am

    More advice: examine yourself to see if you are in the LORD. You also Viv I should add.

    Please do not drag me into whatever history is going on between you as I have enough demons of my own to struggle with and my comments were not directed at anyone but rather I am speaking of how religions are not working here because the younger generation have seen the consequences of how religious people behaved towards each other and are turning away from their faith.

    The truth is I am exameing myself but I don’t like what I see and why I am seeking God to change me from this creature that I am.

    The change isn’t coming quick enough because of the demons in my head but I trust God in my heart for He has revealed truths to me which comfort.

  141. Beloved says:

    Ok good I didn’t know if you were in a tornado zone or? I have a hard time telling metaphors from real sometimes; so used to how Jesus used them so often. Keeps me looking up and forward sometimes.

    What is a metaphor for love? Jesus!

  142. foreverblessed says:

    Thank God, for being merciful to us all.
    It is to Jesus we look.
    Bratimus, you greatly encouraged me by what you wrote.

    Intercessory prayer!
    Insessantly!

    Gangster prayer, by Autumn Miles.
    Gangsters show more zeal in their profession than christians show in prater.

  143. foreverblessed says:

    In prayer (not prater)
    Beloved, go back to blessing!
    And without holding back, keep on giving all hurt, and tears to the Cross.
    It is Jesus Who alone is able to carry all!
    I know that you are doing this! All of us are doing it here. Or are learning to do IT.

    What Oswald Chambers said last month,( haha Utmost in november somewhere) instead of looking at your own failure, look at the suffering it took for Jesus to carry our sins.
    The Cross…

  144. street says:

    1 Corinthians 6:11
    Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

    this verse is not a good place to argue with God on points of the law or His Decisions.

    what am i saying???? who argues with God?

    seems it easier to argue with each other.

    abraham believed God and it was credited to him as Righteousness.

    “I will dwell in them and walk among them;
    And I will be their God, and they shall be My people.
    17
    “Therefore, come out from their midst and be separate,” says the Lord.
    “And do not touch what is unclean;
    And I will welcome you.
    18
    “And I will be a father to you,
    And you shall be sons and daughters to Me,”
    Says the Lord Almighty.

    7 Therefore, having these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from all defilement of flesh and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear, reverence, of God.

  145. foreverblessed says:

    Good points, Street.
    Beloved, I just wanted to encourage you!
    You gave the bible verse, where Jesus said:
    Bless your enemies, do good to those who hate you!

    It is Jesus Word.
    Good advice.

    How can anyone twist this into saying that Beloved and Forever want to be like each other?
    “God forgive Pooh, she does not know what she is doing!

    And I trust that You are the One who is Lord of all!
    To You I look. Also this upcoming night, You are our shield.
    Dear Lord, in Jesus’ Name I pray!

  146. Beloved says:

    Dear beloved friends,
    This problem we have here is never going to be resolved. But, we have a far better future to not only focus on today but look forward to:

    Hebrews 11 13All these people died in faith, without having received the things they were promised. However, they saw them and welcomed them from afar. And they acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth.

    14Now those who say such things show that they are seeking a country of their own. 15If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16Instead, they were longing for a better country, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for He has prepared a city for them.

  147. poohpity says:

    forever, that is not at all what I said or even meant. lol

  148. jeff1 says:

    Weary and troubled with so much uncertain,
    Helpless and homeless and so far away,
    Struggling to care for an infant so precious;
    All they could give was a cradle of hay.
    Savior, O Savior, we’re tired and we’re troubled.
    Humbly we offer this cradle of hay.

    Daily, so daily, through years and through trials,
    Often uncertain with hope far away,
    Walking by faith in the One who is faithful,
    God was their strength in the day after day.
    Savior, O Savior, through years and through trials,
    Come, be our strength in the day after day.

    Jesus, You came from the glories of heaven,
    Taking our weakness and struggle and shame,
    Walking by faith in the One who is faithful,
    Dying in silence, You carried our pain.
    Savior, O Savior, now gladly we follow,
    Taking Your cross and Your struggle and shame.

    Walking by faith in the One who is faithful,
    Finding You strong in the day after day.
    Walking by faith in the One who is faithful;
    Lord, You are strong in the day after day.

  149. Beloved says:

    TRUTH FOR LIFE
    Free from the Slightest Flaw
    There is no flaw in you.

    Song of Songs 4:7
    Having pronounced His Church positively full of beauty, our Lord confirms His praise by a precious negative: “There is no flaw in you.” As if the thought occurred to the Bridegroom that the complaining world would insinuate that He had only highlighted her good parts and had purposely not mentioned those features that were deformed or defiled, in summary He declares her universally and entirely beautiful and utterly devoid of flaws.

    A spot can easily be removed and is the very least thing that can disfigure beauty, but even from this little blemish the believer is delivered in his Lord’s sight. If He had said there is no hideous scar, no horrible deformity, no deadly ulcer, we might even then have marveled; but when He testifies that she is free from the slightest flaw, all these other forms of defilement are included, and the depth of wonder is increased.

    If He had simply promised to remove all flaws later on, we would still have eternal reason for joy; but when He speaks of it as already done, it fills us with a deep sense of satisfaction and delight. My soul, here is spiritual food for you; digest it properly, and be satisfied with the royal provision.

    Christ Jesus has no quarrel with His spouse. She often wanders from Him and grieves His Holy Spirit, but He does not allow her faults to affect His love.

    He sometimes rebukes, but it is always in a tender manner, with the kindest of intentions: It is “my love” even then. There is no remembrance of our follies. He does not cherish ill thoughts of us, but He pardons and loves equally after the offense as before it.

    If Jesus were as mindful of injuries as we are, how could He commune with us? Too often a believer will put himself out of humor with the Lord for some slight turn in providence, but our precious Husband knows our silly hearts too well to take any offense at our ill manners.

  150. poohpity says:

    What a beautiful depiction of being covered by the blood of the Lamb and that nothing can effect His love for us!!

    As Paul taught in Romans 8; What shall we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us? 32 Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else? 33 Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? No one—for God himself has given us right standing with himself. 34 Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.

    35 Can anything ever separate us from Christ’s love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death? 36 (As the Scriptures say, “For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep.”) 37 No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.

    38 And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love. 39 No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.

  151. jeff1 says:

    From these depths, O Lord,
    Hear my cry to You:
    Holy God, have mercy on my weakness and my need!

    Proud and selfish thoughts,
    Cold, uncaring ways–
    Holy God, have mercy on my weakness and my need!

    Refrain
    Father,
    Maker,
    Mighty Redeemer,
    Loving God, forgive me for the foolish heart You see!

    Lord, I look to You.
    As a child I come.
    Holy God, have mercy on my weakness and my need!

    From these depths, O Lord,
    Hear my song to You:
    Holy God, I praise You for unfailing love to me!

  152. poohpity says:

    Amen and Amen!

  153. Beloved says:

    Dear Forever, I’ve been remorseful and struggling over my behavior a couple days ago. But, it’s Gods kindness that leads us to repentance. Forever, God told me that sometimes the best way to love someone that is difficult is just to walk away- to leave them alone. I had to hear that from God Himself to find peace. Others here have advised the same but hearing from Sovereignty dispels all the questions. I am good now I hope you are well also. Blessings to you with love. Joyce

  154. Beloved says:

    (Trying to be a little ‘sovereign’ in another’s life never works, lol!)

  155. poohpity says:

    I might add that trying to play the Holy Spirit shows a lack of trust or dependence on/in God and His abilities to work in our lives and the lives of others. As was said in scripture that we are all works in progress and that progress is not completed until we meet Jesus face to face( Phil 1:6 NLT), so in the meantime should we not show mercy and grace but more importantly love to our fellow believers. 1 John 3:10 NLT

  156. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Beloved for showing interest!
    It is very well with me.
    Does remind me of the song:
    It is well, with my soul,
    it is well, it is well, with my soul

    For indeed, no matter what, nothing can seperate us from the love of God.

    Thanks too, that you are doing fine!

    Indeed, God must lead us.

    But there is nothing wrong in listening to good advice. Especially, if the advice are Jesus’s Words Himself.
    Anyway, Mart has also given us advice about this, So I should follow that myself.
    For me the clarification of Bratimus helped a lot.

    At all times we should seek the peace from Jesus, when we are getting mixed up. No matter what, seek the peace in Jesus. Retreat, jnust as SPurgeon did often.
    He even would not preach.

    So be at peace…
    Love you all!
    And I pray that God be with you all!!!
    And I do believe that God lcherishes our prayers, and loves to hear them, and collect them, to act upon in due time. Never be dismayed.

    He that overcometh, will I give a new name,
    it is written in Revelation.
    And we overcome in the blood of Christ, in the Power of His resurrection life, attached to Him, and not in our own strength.

  157. foreverblessed says:

    There was trouble in posting here, I had posted yesterday, and it was lost in cyberspace.
    And then I had lots to do, Oecumenical prayer, and preparing a Christmas celebration for elderly people.
    John 1:1-14 was read yesterday:

    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 He was with God in the beginning. 3 Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. 4 In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. 5 The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome[a] it.

    6 There was a man sent from God whose name was John. 7 He came as a witness to testify concerning that light, so that through him all might believe. 8 He himself was not the light; he came only as a witness to the light.

    9 The true light that gives light to everyone was coming into the world. 10 He was in the world, and though the world was made through him, the world did not recognize him. 11 He came to that which was his own, but his own did not receive him. 12 Yet to all who did receive him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God— 13 children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband’s will, but born of God.

    14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the one and only Son, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.

  158. foreverblessed says:

    Tomorrow we will have Saint Nicholas day (Sinterklaas in Dutch), It is a big festival, somethihg like your Thanksgiving day.
    People giving presents to children, and the big issue that we have about it: THe figure of Saint Nicolaas is a big mand with white hear and a long white beard. Red long dress, like the roman catholic bishops, and a long had, what’s the name of that had; a miter?
    But… with the black Pete.
    Faces all painted black.
    ANd this has been real dividing struggle in our country. People get very very angry about it:
    Either that it is done,
    or that people want to make an end to dear traditions.
    I never liked the black Pete, all that blackness.
    But the negroid people, the darker skin people, how do you call them in a nice way, many of them get offended about it.
    I went to a migrant church last year, full of black people, and they do not get offended about it, “this is a tradition that has been here for a long time”So this is all right.

    Now you know some of the things that are going on here. But many of us are feelling ashamed that such a childrens festival is fuel for so much fire.

    I believe that the Saint Nicholas, whose day is December 6, (so they celebrate it on the night before, the 5th)
    Wikipedia says on Saint Nicholas, (traditionally 15 March 270 – 6 December 343) of Myra Turkey
    ” His reputation evolved among the faithful, as was common for early Christian saints, and his legendary habit of secret gift-giving gave rise to the traditional model of Santa Claus (“Saint Nick”) through Sinterklaas. “

  159. Beloved says:

    Forever you have such an interesting country where so many of our great traditions came from. The Dutch reformed movement I think may also be why Marts family became involved in ministry here in the USA. Have you listened to M R DeHaans sermon on grace on YouTube? Marts grandfather? I believe. He was a wonderful radio preacher years ago.

    I do remember hearing about Sinterclause in school, as well as St. Patrick (Ireland), the Yule log-Swedish I think God has been reaching out to claim His people wherever they are in the world. Just think; when the gospels were written Rome was their world! Beyond Africa nothing else was known until many centuries later. You can’t keep salt and light from spreading to the uttermost parts of the world! It’s truly miraculous to me, being a small speck in the myriad peoples born since Adam and Eve. Yet here I am, chosen redeemed and His beloved child! Sanctified and living to serve Him, not Santa Clause who brings toys but cannot save your life!
    Good nights rest to you,
    Joyce

  160. jeff1 says:

    I Have a Dream

    I have a dream
    A song to sing
    To help me cope
    With anything

    If you see the wonder
    Of a fairy tale
    You can take the future
    Even if you fail

    I believe in angels
    Something good in everything I see
    I believe in angels
    When I know the time is right for me

    I’ll cross the stream
    I have a dream, oh yeah

    I have a dream (I have a dream)
    A fantasy (fantasy)
    To help me through (help me through)
    Reality (reality)

    And my destination (destination)
    Makes it worth the while (worth the while)
    Pushing through the darkness (through the darkness)
    Still another mile (another mile)

    I believe in angels
    Something good in everything I see
    I believe in angels
    When I know the time is right for me

    I’ll cross the stream (cross the stream)
    I have a dream

    I have a dream (oh yeah)
    A song to sing (song to sing)
    To help me cope
    With anything

    If you see the wonder (if you see the wonder)
    Of a fairy tale (of a fairy tale)
    You can take the future
    Even if you fail

    I believe in angels
    Something good in everything I see
    I believe in angels
    When I know this time is right for me (right for me)

    I’ll cross the stream (cross the stream)
    I have a dream (have a dream)
    I’ll cross the stream (cross the stream)
    I have a dream

  161. foreverblessed says:

    I have a dream…
    The Gospel message is so much greater than the best of the fairy tales, or Santa Claus, Sinterklaas.
    But Jesus came to give gifts to men.
    Eph 4:8

    Tuesday the pastor who was reading John 1:1-14,
    said: many young people in my church say: this is so hard to understand, can you explain?
    When they ask that, I tell them to read Jesus where it is written: the Word.

    In the beginning was Jesus, and Jesus was with God, and Jesus was God. He was with God in the beginning.
    Through Him all things were made, without Him nothing was made that has been made.
    In Him was life, and that life was the light of man.
    The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it. (Greek word is katelaben = overcame)

    I myself add to this:
    For we do not preach ourselves, but Jesus Christ as Lord, and ourselves as your servants for Jesus’ sake.
    6 For God, Who said, “Let light shine out of darkness” ( Gen 1:3), made His light shine in our hearts to give us the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Christ.
    2 Cor 4:5-6

    This glory of God, being Hise character: humble, full of Grace, Mercy, everything Mart ends with in this topic.

  162. poohpity says:

    wow forever, thank you for sharing some of your country’s traditions, very interesting.

  163. jeff1 says:

    foreverblessed says:
    December 5, 2019 at 8:11 am
    I have a dream…
    The Gospel message is so much greater than the best of the fairy tales, or Santa Claus, Sinterklaas.

    That’s because it is God’s truth while the fairy tales told to me as a child did not prepare me for the reality of life and so I learned from a life of hard knocks which in the beginning took me away from God but He since has revealed truths to me that have drawn me back to Him.

    This teaches me that it is God who is faithful even when I am not which brings me much sought peace of mind in my wanderings.

    “God Is Good All The Time”

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    If you’re walking through the valley
    And there are shadows all around
    Do not fear, He will guide you

    He will keep you safe and sound
    He has promised to never leave you
    Nor forsake you, and His word is true

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in the heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    We were sinners and so unworthy
    Still for us He chose to die
    Filled us with His Holy Spirit

    Now we can stand and testify
    That His love is everlasting
    And His mercies, they will never end

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    Though I may not understand
    All the plans you have for me
    My life is in your hands
    And through the eyes of faith
    I can clearly see

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in this heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

    God is good all the time
    He put a song of praise in the heart of mine
    God is good all the time
    Through the darkest night, His light will shine
    God is good, God is good all the time

  164. Beloved says:

    Yes Viv it’s because God is so good we serve Him- agreed! When I was little my parents used to say Santa was watching me all the time and if I was bad would leave nothing under the tree. I always got something but the anxiety connected to a seemingly omniscient character was close to ruining the enjoyment of the day. You just never knew.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Pooh I dreamed about your liver failure last night. God bless you in your suffering. Even though I really don’t like you some days I do still pray for you as well as the rest of the blog. God is still greater than all our feelings. We are told to pray for everyone. Praying with the love of God, always.

  165. poohpity says:

    My decorations for Christmas include several things that tell “Jesus is the Gift”. I know He gets left behind in all the traditions, in the coming and going of gift giving and tree decorations but He is the gift given to mankind. The source of true love shown by His sacrifice. It was a true sacrifice to lay down that majestic power to walk among those He came to rescue from themselves and to show them what He was willing to do for us to live with Him for life in the here and now and for eternity.

  166. Beloved says:

    This is so good.

    Hospital of the Cross
    Ask, and it will be given to you.

    Matthew 7:7
    There was a place in England that no longer exists, where a loaf of bread was served to every passerby who chose to ask for it. Whoever the traveler was, he had only to knock at the door of St. Cross Hospital, and the loaf of bread was his to enjoy. Jesus Christ loves sinners so much that He has built a St. Cross Hospital, so that whenever a sinner is hungry, he has only to knock and have his needs supplied.

    He has actually done better: This Hospital of the Cross has a bath; and whenever a soul is marred and filthy, it may go to this effective fountain and be cleansed. No sinner ever went into it and found that it could not wash away his stains. Sins that were scarlet and crimson have all disappeared, and the sinner was made whiter than snow.

    As if this were not enough, there is attached to this Hospital of the Cross a dressing room, and a sinner making application simply as a sinner may be clothed from head to foot; and if he wishes to be a soldier, he will be provided not just with street clothes, but with armor that will cover him from the sole of his foot to the crown of his head. If he asks for a sword, that will be given to him, and a shield too. He will be denied nothing that is good for him. He will have spending money as long as he lives, and he will have an eternal heritage of glorious treasure when he enters into the joy of his Lord.

    If all these things are available by simply knocking at mercy’s door, then, my soul, knock hard this morning, and make large requests of your generous Lord. Do not leave the throne of grace until all your wants have been spread before the Lord and until by faith you are confident that they will all be supplied.

    You need not be shy about taking Jesus up on His invitation. No unbelief should hinder when Jesus promises. No coldheartedness should restrain when such blessings are to be obtained.

    Devotional material is taken from “Morning and Evening,” written by C.H. Spurgeon, revised and updated by Alistair Begg. Copyright © 2003, Good News Publishers and used by Truth For Life with written permission.

  167. poohpity says:

    Christ’s love controls us. Since we believe that Christ died for all, we also believe that we have all died to our old life. 15 He died for everyone so that those who receive his new life will no longer live for themselves. Instead, they will live for Christ, who died and was raised for them.

    16 So we have stopped evaluating others from a human point of view. At one time we thought of Christ merely from a human point of view. How differently we know him now! 17 This means that anyone who belongs to Christ has become a new person. The old life is gone; a new life has begun!

    18 And all of this is a gift from God, who brought us back to himself through Christ. And God has given us this task of reconciling people to him. 19 For God was in Christ, reconciling the world to himself, no longer counting people’s sins against them. And he gave us this wonderful message of reconciliation. 20 So we are Christ’s ambassadors; God is making his appeal through us. We speak for Christ when we plead, “Come back to God!” 21 For God made Christ, who never sinned, to be the offering for our sin, so that we could be made right with God through Christ.

  168. Beloved says:

    16 So we have stopped evaluating others from a human point of view.

    So true because God says so! Sometimes we have to literally wrestle with God for the grace to do His will. I understood Lady Macbeth’s problem until Jesus entered the scene! Jesus our means of obtaining grace from God. Blessed be His name, I love Him so much.

  169. foreverblessed says:

    IT is all very well to accept thee Grace Jesus has given us.
    But repentance precedes it:
    Saying sorry to Jesus, that you have viewed Him with a wrong heart and mind.
    It is called reconciliation.

    Letting go and leave a person who has been judging my heart, saying she has a right to do so, it is called: discernment, she said.
    That is one thing.
    But what next?

    Just go on talking with that person as if nothing has happened?

    I cannot do that.

    She is saying for years about me: she demands a sorry.
    Well, reconciliation is about saying sorry.

    No demand, only the consequence is that there is no communion.
    That’s all.

    This is a long explanation in saying that I cannot communicate with Pooh.

    Just one thing I learned: do not think evil of her. Leave her in God’s hands.
    And ask God to bless her.

    I am very sorry for you all, but I just cannot go on talking with Pooh.

  170. Beloved says:

    Forever scripture says that as much as you are ABLE to be at peace with others. Peace means leaving them alone sometimes; I first learned this while married to an abusive unbeliever long ago now. Like Lady Macbeth we can all take on another’s guilt sometimes, but don’t let it! You have been set free! Free! Free to talk to or interact with whomever you please with the discernment God gives, His grace to us all! And especially to those that manipulate scripture. Like Satan does.

  171. Beloved says:

    Jesus has been very merciful to us all by His great act of mercy. Because of Gods grace.

  172. Beloved says:

    All to be understood through faith.

  173. Beloved says:

    Forever I am not correcting you just reminding you of what you already know. I often need to be reminded which you and street do well along with solid wisdom from Steve and Bratimus at times. Bless those who curse you; hard to do sometimes, I know very well.

  174. Beloved says:

    Thinking how intercessory prayer is very sacred business, which means suffering, not unlike Jesus suffering on the cross, but not anywhere near as painful. Although it may feel like we are going to die, it’s just the “self” dying. Grace.

  175. Beloved says:

    Suffering is what it takes to be conformed to the image of Christ.

  176. Beloved says:

    I will be out the rest of the day.

  177. street says:

    thinking about salt and light that follows Matthew 5.
    sanctification a new heart and a renewal of the mind. seems the heart get tangled up with the past practices and so does the mind. separation is mentioned, like turning to God mentioned in many parts of the Bible or not to become entangled with the past or the world, yet still here in the world. discernment, not by ourselves but by the Spirit He gave us. Spirit and Truth, God’s Word. clean up is not by flesh and blood but by His Spirit and Truth. there is an obedience that works it’s self out in the flesh. getting the inside of the cup clean is a work of God, just how much effort we put in would be as divisive as some of the conversations here. yet not done apart from the presents of God. i like that Word done, reminds me of finished. i wonder if sanctification is learning to love and trust God?

  178. Beloved says:

    End result of Matthew 5-6 is 24 “Everyone then who hears these words of mine and does them will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock. 25 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat on that house, but it did not fall, because it had been founded on the rock. 26 And everyone who hears these words of mine and does not do them will be like a foolish man who built his house on the sand. 27 And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew and beat against that house, and it fell, and great was the fall of it.”

    It’s a good thing it’s a work of God and I just have to love Him enough to trust Him. Trust=faith.

  179. poohpity says:

    forever, I do not judge your heart but I have not learned to trust the things you say because often what follows those words are not the actions spoken of but matters that are often condemnation and accusations just as what you said in your post of 11:29am. You say all these claims about praying for me because I am so far from God yet you have no idea what my relationship is with God. You demand apologies for my sin yet you never tell me how I sinned against you the reason for that is because I have not sinned against you. The only thing I have done is disagreed with you or not believed your covert flowery words that seem to really mean nothing.

  180. street says:

    forever you have been an encouragement to me.

    follow the Spirit and Truth that are in Christ Jesus, and as paul said, am convinced that it is in you.

  181. Beloved says:

    Forever I totally agree with street, was just thinking what a lovely person you are and of your love for our LORD. Blessings, Joyce

  182. jeff1 says:

    Forever, I have taken encouragement and I have learned from your words and I believe they are sincere in seeking God’s truths and thank you for sharing them.

  183. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you very much, Beloved and Street.
    Pooh writes: “I do not judge your heart”
    And that is very good news.
    I take that as a sorry, since she has written the exact opposite.
    But she does not remember that. So the prayer: “Father, forgive her, for she does not know what she is doing” remains a good prayer.

    What is making me very sad now is this:
    “Your flowery words that seem to really mean nothing”

    Isn’t that assuming?

    Pooh, can I give you a great clue?

    Jesus gave us His Word:
    Bless those that curse you,

    If you would follow Jesus to the utmost, you would do that, and the effect would be that it prevents you from thinking the worst about me.
    Blessing your enemy is giving over to Jesus, your own negative thoughts about your enemies.

    And what comes in its place:
    Gracefull thoughts, merciful thoughts.

    So when you say:
    Her covert flowery words seem to mean nothing….
    You underestimate the working of God’s Grace in your fellow blogger.
    It is because of the Grace of God, that my flowery words to you are full of Jesus grace and mercy.

    And it hurts me that you do not accept it.
    But I give my hurt to Jesus, and He carried it on the Cross.
    And He gives to me: Peace in my heart, and love.
    Jesus is still working on Joy in me.

  184. poohpity says:

    forever, I apologize again for hurting your feelings. Rejection does hurt especially if it happens over and over, I know how that is.

    It does not take much to be kind to those who are kind back most all people do that, what does take some Christ living in us effort is to be kind to those who are not kind back.

  185. poohpity says:

    It takes Christ living through us to forgive even when one does not apologize or admit to wrong doing. It takes Christ living through us to show mercy or grace even when we do not think a person deserves it just as we did not deserve it from God. Christ living through us takes us into a topsy turvy kind of life of turning the other cheek, loving even when it is not returned, not judging by human standards, not returning insult for insult or evil for evil, not expecting others to live their lives the way we think they should but accepting people for who they are, how they are and where they are.

  186. poohpity says:

    The other day someone said something nice and encouraging about something I had written and I almost feel off my chair the first compliment in over five years when most of what I say are actually teachings of Jesus but because people do not seem to be familiar with those teachings they attribute them to me and I am not the one who teaches them, I only share what I have learned from Him.

  187. Beloved says:

    Forever, once again you show us all the goodness kindness and grace of God. I am humbled.

  188. Beloved says:

    Perhaps by Gods grace some day….the deceiver will not harass I was about to say, but, we are still on earth and still awaiting Jesus return. I just get so sick and tired of his antics. And how easy some people are to manipulate into playing the devils advocate here. Year after year after year. Even today. Pitiful. Only Gods grace lifts us higher above the insults, shaming, blaming and judging of Gods people. But no matter what goes on I must obey Him so joyfully I thank God for His presence through Forever here this day that the LORD has made! I am rejoicing and very grateful.

  189. poohpity says:

    Didn’t Jesus teach; “Watch out! Don’t do your good deeds publicly, to be admired by others, for you will lose the reward from your Father in heaven. 2 When you give to someone in need, don’t do as the hypocrites do—blowing trumpets in the synagogues and streets to call attention to their acts of charity! I tell you the truth, they have received all the reward they will ever get. 3 But when you give to someone in need, don’t let your left hand know what your right hand is doing. 4 Give your gifts in private, and your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

    “When you pray, don’t be like the hypocrites who love to pray publicly on street corners and in the synagogues where everyone can see them. I tell you the truth, that is all the reward they will ever get. 6 But when you pray, go away by yourself, shut the door behind you, and pray to your Father in private. Then your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

    “If you forgive those who sin against you, your heavenly Father will forgive you. 15 But if you refuse to forgive others, your Father will not forgive your sins.

    16 “And when you fast, don’t make it obvious, as the hypocrites do, for they try to look miserable and disheveled so people will admire them for their fasting. I tell you the truth, that is the only reward they will ever get. 17 But when you fast, comb your hair[d] and wash your face. 18 Then no one will notice that you are fasting, except your Father, who knows what you do in private. And your Father, who sees everything, will reward you.

    So wasn’t Jesus teaching that when we do things in the public eye to look godly or spiritual it is only to get the praise of other people but when we do things in private God sees where our heart really is and blesses us.

  190. Beloved says:

    Jesus spoke in public as did His disciples and apostles. It’s all about the heart then isn’t it. But you can tell a persons heart by who they follow, the self or God. If you Pooh struggle with Jesus sayings and doing his will then at the very least you do acknowledge Him as God. Perhaps He will have mercy on you before it is too late. If you are Gods chosen then do what you need to do; repent and do good. To all, including the blog.

  191. Beloved says:

    One can write Jesus words all day long but what proves them to be a part of the Body is how they love. Love does not seek approval, it gives. Freely and without hypocrisy.

  192. Beloved says:

    If you are jealous of the praise others may get here from time to time that’s a sin only God in Christ Jesus can forgive you for. If you are IN Christ that is. Within the Body encouragement and praise are the norm. Get behind me, Satan. Jesus said.

  193. Beloved says:

    Love also abhors evil.

  194. poohpity says:

    What leads you to believe that I have struggles “with Jesus sayings and doing his will”? I do not struggle with that at all in fact I consider it a gift and delight to believe what He says and to do what He asks! How about you? Maybe I am missing it but I do not read in to many comments anything that even faintly resembles that.

  195. poohpity says:

    But it is not really my business whether anyone follows Jesus and does what He says but it is my only business whether I do or not.

  196. poohpity says:

    Beloved and what do you think I have to be jealous of anyone on here for? Please do share if it is just praise from others on here that is certainly the farthest thing on my mind or heart, I get my praise from God and I need no other.

  197. Beloved says:

    the farthest thing on my mind or heart, I get my praise from God and I need no other.

    God praises you? Just asking.

  198. Beloved says:

    Pooh Jesus words are explained further in the epistles as to how to carry them out in the Body of Christ. Being social is how we carry them out, here’s a list of one another verses if you are interested. Being salt and light encompasses these actions. All are uplifting and encouraging! Like Jesus, uplifting and encouraging as He dwells among us.

    The 59 “One Anothers” of the New Testament
    1. “…Be at peace with each other.” (Mark 9:50)
    2. “…Wash one another’s feet.” (John 13:14)
    3. “…Love one another…” (John 13:34)
    4. “…Love one another…” (John 13:34)
    5. “…Love one another…” (John 13:35)
    6. “…Love one another…” (John 15:12)
    7. “…Love one another” (John 15:17)
    8. “Be devoted to one another in brotherly love…” (Romans 12:10)
    9. “…Honor one another above yourselves. (Romans 12:10)
    10. “Live in harmony with one another…” (Romans 12:16)
    11. “…Love one another…” (Romans 13:8)
    12. “…Stop passing judgment on one another.” (Romans 14:13)
    13. “Accept one another, then, just as Christ accepted you…” (Romans 15:7)
    14. “…Instruct one another.” (Romans 15:14)
    15. “Greet one another with a holy kiss…” (Romans 16:16)
    16. “…When you come together to eat, wait for each other.” (I Cor. 11:33)
    17. “…Have equal concern for each other.” (I Corinthians 12:25)
    18. “…Greet one another with a holy kiss.” (I Corinthians 16:20)
    19. “Greet one another with a holy kiss.” (II Corinthians 13:12)
    20. “…Serve one another in love.” (Galatians 5:13)
    21. “If you keep on biting and devouring each other…you will be destroyed by each other.”
    (Galatians 5:15)
    22. “Let us not become conceited, provoking and envying each other.” (Galatians 5:26)
    23. “Carry each other’s burdens…” (Galatians 6:2)
    24. “…Be patient, bearing with one another in love.” (Ephesians 4:2)
    25. “Be kind and compassionate to one another…” (Ephesians 4:32)
    26. “…Forgiving each other…” (Ephesians 4:32)
    27. “Speak to one another with psalms, hymns and spiritual songs.” (Ephesians 5:19)
    28. “Submit to one another out of reverence for Christ.” (Ephesians 5:21)
    29. “…In humility consider others better than yourselves.” (Philippians 2:3)

    30. “Do not lie to each other…” (Colossians 3:9)
    31. “Bear with each other…” (Colossians 3:13)
    32. “…Forgive whatever grievances you may have against one another.” (Colossians 3:13)
    33. “Teach…[one another]” (Colossians 3:16)
    34. “…Admonish one another (Colossians 3:16)
    35. “…Make your love increase and overflow for each other.” (I Thessalonians 3:12)
    36. “…Love each other.” (I Thessalonians 4:9)
    37. “…Encourage each other…”(I Thessalonians 4:18)
    38. “…Encourage each other…” I Thessalonians 5:11)
    39. “…Build each other up…” (I Thessalonians 5:11)
    40. “Encourage one another daily…” Hebrews 3:13)
    41. “…Spur one another on toward love and good deeds.” (Hebrews 10:24)
    42. “…Encourage one another.” (Hebrews 10:25)
    43. “…Do not slander one another.” (James 4:11)
    44. “Don’t grumble against each other…” (James 5:9)
    45. “Confess your sins to each other…” (James 5:16)
    46. “…Pray for each other.” (James 5:16)
    47. “…Love one another deeply, from the heart.” (I Peter 3:8)
    48. “…Live in harmony with one another…” (I Peter 3:8)
    49. “…Love each other deeply…” (I Peter 4:8)
    50. “Offer hospitality to one another without grumbling.” (I Peter 4:9)
    51. “Each one should use whatever gift he has received to serve others…” (I Peter 4:10)
    52. “…Clothe yourselves with humility toward one another…”(I Peter 5:5)
    53. “Greet one another with a kiss of love.” (I Peter 5:14)
    54. “…Love one another.” (I John 3:11)
    55. “…Love one another.” (I John 3:23)
    56. “…Love one another.” (I John 4:7)
    57. “…Love one another.” (I John 4:11)
    58. “…Love one another.” (I John 4:12)
    59. “…Love one another.” (II John 5)
    *From Carl F. George, Prepare Your Church for the Future (Tarrytown: Revell, 1991), 129-131.

  199. Beloved says:

    Pooh I pray you will experience the love of God through His people and give the glory and praise to God.

  200. Beloved says:

    Maybe this will help

    Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers
    (43) For they loved the praise of men more than the praise of God.–For “praise” read in both instances glory. “The glory which comes from men more than the glory which came from God.” Comp. Note on John 5:44, where the truth is put in the form of a question by our Lord. Here it explains the fact that there were men who believed, and yet did not publicly confess their faith. There our Lord’s question goes deeper, and asserts that the seeking of the glory which comes from men is inconsistent with the existence of any true belief in God.

  201. poohpity says:

    Beloved, I will again repeat that all that need concern you is whether you are doing the 59 things that John Piper listed!! When you are able to do those things then you will probably find no need to judge whether someone else is doing them. ;-) I do receive the love of God through His people almost everyday when I am around them.

    About receiving the praise of God read 1 Cor 4:5 NLT; 2 Cor 10:18 NLT

  202. Beloved says:

    That wasn’t Piper but wish you could be less anti social on here. But if you can’t you can’t. Just checking. God bless you.

  203. street says:

    thinking of some things eugene peterson said about play and work. he said play is a precursor to work while growing up.

    i am thinking
    work is a precursor to worship.

    we know about the law

    we know about the accuser

    we know about the Savior

    3 See, I am sending my messenger to prepare the way before me, and the Lord whom you seek will suddenly come to his temple. The messenger of the covenant in whom you delight—indeed, he is coming, says the Lord of hosts. 2 But who can endure the day of his coming, and who can stand when he appears?

    For he is like a refiner’s fire and like fullers’ soap; 3 he will sit as a refiner and purifier of silver, and he will purify the descendants of Levi and refine them like gold and silver, until they present offerings to the Lord in righteousness.[a] 4 Then the offering of Judah and Jerusalem will be pleasing to the Lord as in the days of old and as in former years.

    5 Then I will draw near to you for judgment; I will be swift to bear witness against the sorcerers, against the adulterers, against those who swear falsely, against those who oppress the hired workers in their wages, the widow and the orphan, against those who thrust aside the alien, and do not fear me, says the Lord of hosts.

    6 For I the Lord do not change; therefore you, O children of Jacob, have not perished. 7 Ever since the days of your ancestors you have turned aside from my statutes and have not kept them. Return to me, and I will return to you, says the Lord of hosts. But you say, “How shall we return?”

  204. Beloved says:

    Salt and light

    I found some notes from a couple years ago when I was studying about the holiness of God. R C said the holiness of God defeats our pride. He cited Galatians 5:16-18 saying that as we walk by the Spirit He restrains us from doing as we please resulting in less sin and more righteous behavior. Salt and light are so appealing, and as you say street it takes work, often hard work.

    Did Solomon say anything about a time to play? Yes I’m sure he did. It’s a balance oftentimes.

  205. jeff1 says:

    Come, Thou long-expected Jesus,
    Born to set Thy people free.
    From our fears and sins release us;
    Let us find our rest in Thee.
    Israel’s Strength and Consolation,
    Hope of all the earth Thou art–
    Dear desire of every nation,
    Joy of every longing heart.

    Born Thy people to deliver,
    Born a Child and yet a King,
    Born to reign in us forever,
    Now Thy gracious kingdom bring.
    By Thine own eternal Spirit,
    Rule in all our hearts alone.
    By Thine all-sufficient merit,
    Raise us to Thy glorious throne.

    Blessed Jesus, we adore You,
    Light of Life and Sun of Love.
    All Your children bow before You,
    Speak Your name and lift You up.
    King of Kings, from highest heaven,
    Lord of Lords, come rule alone.
    Son of God so sweetly given,
    Make our hearts Your holy throne.

  206. poohpity says:

    It is hard work for those who are trying in their own strength to be salt and light but for those who are submissive to the leading and guidance of the Holy Spirit they allow the Spirit to do His work in their lives, it is after all the fruit He produces in us not our own. The only thing hard about that is letting go of control and allowing Him to do the work in our heart’s.

  207. street says:

    let’s put it a different way.

    play prepares children for work

    work prepares young adults for worship

    we understand the law can not save and and the works of our hands can not endure.

    faith and worship are a work of God in man by Christ through the Holy Spirit. the works of God are eternal in keeping with His nature. if God makes something just or righteous it is just and righteous. end of the accuser. new life and new beginning. learning to worship in Spirit and Truth. thinking of the widow and two mites and jacob leaning on his staff, at a very old age, worshiping God. two unique forms of worship that did not slip by without God’s notice. don’t think we will ever have to remind God of what we did. we do need to be reminded of what God did for us. a time for worship. thanksgiving and praise.

  208. street says:

    Godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation… —2 Corinthians 7:10

    there is only one place where Salvation is found and that is in the Lamb of God Who takes away the sin of the world.

    this Lamb is the reason we celebrate advent this time of year, Light entering darkness. the remarkable fulfillment to david of One of his decedents Who would sit on his thrown forever. we don’t see that right now, but we do understand He had to deal with the sin problem first.

    He makes me lay down in green pastures, He leads me beside still waters, He restores my soul.

    nothing else can. learning to live like levi in Malachi to abide in life and peace, as a result of reverence to God. i’m sure joy and love is in there too.

    His mercy is new every morning

  209. SFDBWV says:

    For those among us who can think abstractly and dare ponder the deeper meaning of our lives, our relationship with our Creator and perhaps a clearer understanding of God, I pose a question.

    Since the message Jesus brought was of forgiveness, meekness, turning the other cheek and service to each other; why then didn’t the God of the burning bush present that message to Moses instead of a harsh ridged Law that stoned people to death for gathering firewood on the Sabbath?

    Is it as simple as there is a time for everything?

    Forgive me Mart but your assessment of the Jewish religious community seems a bit harsh.

    Did Jesus “take apart” a religious community or bring an offer of peace to them as well as the rest of the world?

    As far as dividing is concerned He continues to divide people into two groups those who accept Him and those who don’t.

    In every religious community in the world.

    What do you think is His offer of peace and forgiveness to those who reject Him? Forgiveness or eternal separation, torment and punishment.

    Does the idea of eternal punishment go against His teaching of turning the other cheek and forgiveness?

    Steve

  210. poohpity says:

    1 Thess 5: 16 Rejoice always, 17 pray continually, 18 give thanks in all circumstances; for this is God’s will for you in Christ Jesus.

    I have so much to be grateful for and on the top of that list is my salvation which if it was based on my performance would not have happened however it is based on the Love God has for His creation, you and me, just because He wants us to have a relationship with Him. How marvelous and wonderful is that. So during this season when I consider the birth of my Savior and Him laying down His omnipotence, omnipresence and omniscience my heart leaps in gratitude. How do I show that gratitude by not holding others to my standards or measurements but showing them I embrace the grace I have received by sharing it with others.

  211. poohpity says:

    God does not want that any should perish but that all will have eternal life but He left that choice up to the people. 2 Peter 3:9 NLT Some people just do not want what God has to offer and God pursues them over their life time to come to Him but they refuse can’t force anyone to want someone it has to be a choice.

  212. Beloved says:

    Steve good to hear from you again. Thinking about what you said.

  213. poohpity says:

    It was not Mart who took apart the Jewish religious community it was Jesus, if one reads Matt 23. Their religion was only for show it was not a changed heart acted out. They could not follow God’s laws but expected to tell everyone else to but God since the beginning had a plan just as was shown in the law of Moses that there was a way to be forgiven for breaking those laws by admitting wrong doing and through the sacrificial system until that final and complete sacrifice came.

  214. Beloved says:

    Forever thinking about what you said also a couple days ago. God released me once again from feeling compelled to read/speak with those who cause problems, no matter how sick they are, for the sake of unity and peace here amongst believers. God gives and develops our gifts but we can still allow the flesh to get involved. I certainly have and did here. Keep interceding.

  215. poohpity says:

    Is it abstract or deeper thinking to think of the darkness rather than the light? It may be the difference in worldly thinking and Spiritual but not deeper or abstract. Wouldn’t it be deeper thinking to consider the all that the Lord has actually done for His creation?

    Eph 3: And I pray that Christ will be more and more at home in your hearts, living within you as you trust in him. May your roots go down deep into the soil of God’s marvelous love; 18-19 and may you be able to feel and understand, as all God’s children should, how long, how wide, how deep, and how high his love really is; and to experience this love for yourselves, though it is so great that you will never see the end of it or fully know or understand it. And so at last you will be filled up with God himself.

    Col 2: Let your roots grow down into him, and let your lives be built on him. Then your faith will grow strong in the truth you were taught, and you will overflow with thankfulness.

    8 Don’t let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ. 9 For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body.

    Now that is where really deep thinking is in my opinion.

  216. poohpity says:

    Beloved, your vitriol and hatred seems to come so naturally to you just like breathing. Are you ever going to stop your evil obsession regarding me even when there is someone who would enjoy helping you with it if you just ask?

  217. Beloved says:

    I mentioned Solomon yesterday about “time” and just “happened” to find a teaching by Steve Lawson on the Sovereignty of God as taught in Proverbs also. Proverbs21 He says that everything that happens is ordained by God, even evil is ordained to be destroyed on the day of judgement. And that everything has already happened because He preordained it from the beginning of time. If I choose to be salt and light, loving God and loving others, well, did I really choose it? Fascinating to think about and know my decisions are all part of His plan ultimately. His plan: love the LORD with all our heart and our neighbor as ourselves. Thinking of our president and other world leaders as part of Gods plan, whether good or evil, kind or unkind, really gives me peace of mind. In an age of endless anxieties. Thinking about Gods chosen and the hope we have that a good outcome will follow. Thinking of Jesus riding on His white horse in Revelation! Praise God from whom all blessings flow!

  218. Beloved says:

    I’m not reading poohs posts.

  219. Beloved says:

    I’ve always loved this passage

    Revelation 19:11-16 New King James Version (NKJV)

    Christ on a White Horse
    11 Now I saw heaven opened, and behold, a white horse. And He who sat on him was called Faithful and True, and in righteousness He judges and makes war. 12 His eyes were like a flame of fire, and on His head were many crowns. He [a]had a name written that no one knew except Himself. 13 He was clothed with a robe dipped in blood, and His name is called The Word of God. 14 And the armies in heaven, clothed in [b]fine linen, white and clean, followed Him on white horses. 15 Now out of His mouth goes a [c]sharp sword, that with it He should strike the nations. And He Himself will rule them with a rod of iron. He Himself treads the winepress of the fierceness and wrath of Almighty God. 16 And He has on His robe and on His thigh a name written:

    KING OF KINGS AND
    LORD OF LORDS.

  220. Beloved says:

    Steve the only thing that comes to mind is that a day is as a thousand years to God. But I get what you are saying.

  221. SFDBWV says:

    Yes Joyce I too enjoy the Book of Revelation.

    When my first wife, Rita was dying of cancer she finally accepted Jesus and began attending a local church here in town with her mother. As well as listening to tapes, and watching Christian TV.

    Knowing of my long involvement with Christianity and Scripture she began asking me questions about the Book of Revelation.

    Whereas I could and did answer her to the best of my ability, I did caution her using a phrase from other Christian speakers that new Christians need to be fed the milk of the Gospels and Epistles and grow into being able to digest the meat of Revelation.

    Revelation is rich in OT symbolism and traditions. And the return of Israel as the focus of events in the world.

    I think we can all look forward to death and hell being thrown into that eternal lake of fire, there being no more tears, and all things being made new.

    Steve

  222. street says:

    Since the message Jesus brought was of forgiveness, meekness, turning the other cheek and service to each other; why then didn’t the God of the burning bush present that message to Moses instead of a harsh ridged Law that stoned people to death for gathering firewood on the Sabbath?

    many things come to mind on this. hard ground, spelling out what really caused the separation of man from God. when i came to understand the grace of the law, yes grace of the law. me a law breaker and rebel of God, deserving of death, yet not destroyed. we saw others given over to destruction. especially in Exodus. there was no doubt, God was leading this party, not in the peoples mind or in moses mind. the grace was lived out in a wilderness because of unbelief, yet we see their children walking into the promised land. yet no better.

    was it not God Who turned the other cheek and lay down His life for those He loved? was it not God Who bares the sin of those who come to Him? did He not love them all? was not grace available to all? “Was not Esau Jacob’s brother?” declares the Lord. “Yet I have loved Jacob, 3 but Esau I have hated, and I have turned his hill country into a wasteland and left his inheritance to the desert jackals.”

    4 Edom may say, “Though we have been crushed, we will rebuild the ruins.”

    But this is what the Lord Almighty says: “They may build, but I will demolish. They will be called the Wicked Land, a people always under the wrath of the Lord. 5 You will see it with your own eyes and say, ‘Great is the Lord—even beyond the borders of Israel!’

    it seems God does chose Who He loves.

    Malachi 3:6
    “For I, the Lord, do not change; therefore you, O sons of Jacob, are not consumed.

    that is unmerited grace mercy and love on a scale that humbles people to repentance and faithfulness in mortal flesh. sown in corruption, raised in incorruption for the Glory of God.

    it will be fun/joy when the corruption is over with.

    couple other thoughts, one Jesus actually helps us carry the yoke of the law. where others could not. thinking grace and mercy here. thinking of the picture of the waters of baptism, crucified, dying with Christ and being raised up with Him, by faith. yes He knew we are still struggling in a great way. i pray we are struggling before God and not with God.

    i open my eyes daily and think i am not in hell. this is grace and mercy, undeserved. sure i have had some bad days but not compared to people of the past or my contemporaries. yet my hope is in God, and someday i will open my eyes and see Him like moses when he turned back to God after seeing the promised land and was gather to His people. a people of God.

  223. street says:

    from our daily bread today

    It was just before Christmas, and her kids were having a difficult time with gratitude. She knew how easy it was to slip into that kind of thinking, but she also knew she wanted something better for the hearts of her children. So she went through the house and placed red bows on light switches, the pantry and refrigerator doors, the washing machine and dryer, and the water faucets. With each bow there was a handwritten note: “Some of the gifts God gives us are easy to overlook, so I’ve put a bow on them. He is so good to our family. Let’s not forget where the gifts come from.”

    red bows to my fellow bloggers. thank you

  224. Beloved says:

    I’m in Gods woodshed right now, for not seeing what was right in front of me to do. I’m firmly established in how God has given me every single thing I have, which I thank Him for every morning. But oh how selfish and self centered I can get at times! Especially when I’m having a down day. No excuses! God always enables when He calls us to do something. He’s good, He’s always good!

    Thanks for sharing that street, something to think about as far as the blog goes which you so generously blessed today.

  225. SFDBWV says:

    So then street you believe that God had to first lay down the Law and show it by the execution of those who did not obey it in order to show what mercy was.

    While it is written that God is no respecter of man, yet He died for man without respecting him.

    Do you think that grace and mercy was a progressive change of God’s nature? As it is also written that He is the same today tomorrow and forever.

    Where was God’s mercy for Adam and Eve or for Cain or for all the living creatures including mankind who drowned in the flood?

    Was their mercy to come later after the Christ died on the cross and they then redeemed?

    As it is also written that Jesus went into “prison” and preached to the spirits who were disobedient before the flood. 1 Peter 3:19-20 KJV

    What do you think, is it possible that in that great white throne of judgement that mercy will be given in place of judgement?

    Personally I think there is a great deal more to the story then we are given. That what is given is there to shock or scare or convince us to follow after Christ in this life here on earth so that we can be at least be civil if not merciful to one another. Trying yet failing in being Christ-like always showing a need for Jesus’ sacrifice on our behalf in life and in death.

    We just spent a lot of time and energy thinking about reading between the lines or things being left unsaid or implied.

    So as it is written “And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.” Revelation 20:15 KJV

    So was Jesus’ sacrifice for some or for all?

    Steve

  226. Beloved says:

    Forever I just heard a sermon online called “Discipline” by RC Sproul which cleared up some things regarding church discipline and what constitutes a venial sin versus an annoyance. It helped me.

  227. Beloved says:

    Sorry thats mortal sin versus venial sin between persons.

  228. street says:

    Personally I think there is a great deal more to the story then we are given.

    38 Then some of the scribes and Pharisees said to Him, “Teacher, we want to see a sign from You.” 39 But He answered and said to them, “An evil and adulterous generation craves for a sign; and yet no sign will be given to it but the sign of Jonah the prophet; 40 for just as Jonah was three days and three nights in the belly of the sea monster, so will the Son of Man be three days and three nights in the heart of the earth.

    15 Then the Pharisees also were asking him again how he received his sight. And he said to them, “He applied clay to my eyes, and I washed, and I see.” 16 Therefore some of the Pharisees were saying, “This man is not from God, because He does not keep the Sabbath.” But others were saying, “How can a man who is a sinner perform such signs?” And there was a division among them. 17 So they said to the blind man again, “What do you say about Him, since He opened your eyes?” And he said, “He is a prophet.”

    37 Jesus said to him, “You have both seen Him, and He is the one who is talking with you.” 38 And he said, “Lord, I believe.” And he worshiped Him. 39 And Jesus said, “For judgment I came into this world, so that those who do not see may see, and that those who see may become blind.”

    i guess the blind man up the game from prophet to One Who is to be Worshiped. only God is to be Worshiped. Jesus is God. oh Jesus can forgive sin, too. give life strength peace joy, did i mention love?

    it is darkest before the dawn. may the light of the world protect you.

  229. foreverblessed says:

    Worshipping God…
    Why first the First Covenant? Steve asked.

    Good to hear from touw Steve!

    This explanation I heard past year:
    God called Israel out of Egypt to worship Him in the desert.
    ” let My people go so they can worship Me”

    That is a call to a deep personal relation with each person with God.

    Then they come to the mountain, and the people get scared!
    They say: Let Moses talk to us.
    But not God directly speaking to us personally, lest we die.

    It is the people that wanted a distance!
    Not a close relation that speaks from the heart of God to our heart.

    God wanted it: worship Me, An intimate relation.

    Well, said God, OK, you do not want me close, so here I give you the 10 words.
    And a whole lot more regulations:
    So God gave them the law of Moses.

    Deut 18:18
    And within that law it is written: when the Messiah comes, listen to Him!

    The Words of Jesus would overrule the Law of Moses!

    My old church from my youth said: the Old Covenant was not for nothing, there are still today found many good things in them.
    And they searched and studied the law of Moses.
    We said: we are a church that has the whole bible, the New and the Old Testament. Nog only the New Testament.

    What I learned by experience:
    When you want to keep the whole law, you get tired!
    Exhausted!
    God forgave us for not knowing what we were doing.

    But the Old Covenant had done its work in me:
    Even with the best law there is: you fail!!!

    ( I did not keep the law to be saved, I kept it because I thought God asked that for me toch do. Just like people keep a day holy in the week, because it says so in the 10 commandments)

    So coming to the end of yourself, you afdeling fully prepared to come into the New Covenant!

    Nowadays I want to do this: study Jesus’ life, study the Words He said, find the treasures in there.
    Meditate on them, pray about it.
    What did Jesus mean?

    Beloved, what did Sproul say about church discipline?

  230. foreverblessed says:

    Auto-correct into Dutch words:
    Good to hear from you Steve
    You became: touw , which is rope in English.

    So coming to the end of yourself, you afdeling=are fully prepared to come into the New Covenant!

    Afdeling is department in English

    Nog=not only the New Testament

    God asked that for me to(ch) do.

    Free Dutch words for you.

    But the best is the Living Word, that is Jesus living in us

  231. Beloved says:

    Forever about discipline Sproul teaches from Matthew 18:15-20. He says these verses are not for use in cases of someone who has offended, annoyed, irritated or displeased us. Why not? Because out of charity-love, we are to NOT make a big deal out of these disturbances but to absorb them.

    Ohhh so so hard to do, Anyway that’s the first part. You can find more at Ligonier. Org It’s very interesting as he gives a good background on how the church has and is dealing with it. (He does point out though that Jesus said this before His church was even established). One other interesting thing he notes is the passage follows the teaching on offending “little ones”. That this is talking about those that hurt those little ones and how to deal with them; the goal being restoration.

    But to “absorb out of charity-love”, yes, I can see that. Salt and light has tough demands, but God is changing me from glory to glory. His glory not mine. Something to think about. Yes?

  232. Beloved says:

    One more thing he says which is what I believe we struggle with here. In the 16th century the church actually flogged and stretched people to beat the sin out of them so they would not go to hell. Today there seems to be no fear of hell so do whatever you want because Gods grace covers it all. Two extremes yet the TRUTH is in there somewhere. Which is why as you say often we cling to Jesus. And I might add not church not a preacher or the golf course for that matter, only Jesus will get us through this age unto the next.

    Praying for us all to not take offense and roll the problem over to God in love.

  233. Beloved says:

    Oh and in case someone writes here ‘see, I told you so many times about grace’, I hope the writer remembers they were just as rude hostile unkind and unloving as the rest of us at times.

  234. poohpity says:

    Paul defines the contrast in spiritual milk and meat in 1 Cor 3: Dear brothers and sisters, when I was with you I couldn’t talk to you as I would to spiritual people. I had to talk as though you belonged to this world or as though you were infants in Christ. 2 I had to feed you with milk, not with solid food, because you weren’t ready for anything stronger. And you still aren’t ready, 3 for you are still controlled by your sinful nature. You are jealous of one another and quarrel with each other. Doesn’t that prove you are controlled by your sinful nature? Aren’t you living like people of the world?

    Receiving the meat of God’s word is better taught to those who are spiritual and desire to learn more about God besides just the basics.

  235. Beloved says:

    Except for you Forever and other regulars. You have been a bright light here. Me, not so much.

  236. Beloved says:

    Forever I just remembered something else he said which was good advice and biblical, that sometimes a person does not even know they said something offensive, so in that case the hurt party should go to the person that offended them, explain what caused them offense, and the party who offended should with love and grace ask forgiveness in order to restore Christian fellowship. So there we have it. It takes love and charity on both parties to resolve the issue and restore fellowship.

    On a blog it’s pretty apparent who’s charitable and who isn’t. My own building frustration over the years due to lack of transparency and Christian charity by one here has pushed me away, finally. I’m not leaving but as I said earlier not reading everything here. Wise as serpent gentle as doves. As much as lies within you be at peace with all. I’m at peace finally. Again.

  237. Beloved says:

    Gal 5:24
    English Standard Version
    And those who belong to Christ Jesus have crucified the flesh with its passions and desires.

    Since this morning I’ve been thinking about the “work” required of us to do. This explains it. The work is crucifying our passions our desires and nailing them to the cross. Very hard work. Killing the flesh. “Put to death“ Paul said “Dying to self” to live for Christ. He’s so wonderful!

  238. Beloved says:

    Wonderful conversation here today, I just reread it all. So good, thanks all!

  239. foreverblessed says:

    This is the time of Advent: Worship Jesus!

    Together!

    Sing about how He has saved me.

    Through it all, my eyes are on You.

    verse of the day, biblegateway:
    Jesus answered, “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.

    John 14:6

    Singing totogether

    The Song of Ascents Psalm 120 to Psalm 134

    the first Psalm goes like this:

    1 I call on the Lord in my distress,
    and he answers me.
    2 Save me, Lord,
    from lying lips
    and from deceitful tongues.

    3 What will he do to you,
    and what more besides,
    you deceitful tongue?
    4 He will punish you with a warrior’s sharp arrows,
    with burning coals of the broom bush.

    5 Woe to me that I dwell in Meshek,
    that I live among the tents of Kedar!
    6 Too long have I lived
    among those who hate peace.
    7 I am for peace;
    but when I speak, they are for war.

    Psalm 120:1-7
    Together we are walking up to the Sanctuary, where Jesus is, in this is our first song…
    As I read this Psalm I see that Jesus wants us to tell what is on our hearts, and give it to Him.

    The only thins is the time of Advent
    the Waiting till He comes
    Wait on the Lord
    and in the waiting our strength is growing, because Jesus does a work deep in our soul, a spiritual work.

  240. foreverblessed says:

    Reinhard Bonke died yesterday, He was a student of a college Rees Howells, Swansea, Wales.
    I was so impressed by the book about Rees Howells:
    Intercessor by Norman Grub,
    Rees Howells basis in his mission work, was, first of all grounded in faith in Jesus, and being led by the Holy Spirit,
    but the main mission was Intercessory.
    So yes, Intercessory prayer is holy mission work.

    (I didn’t know about Reinhard Bonke, just missed it, but may God bless the mission he started. And may God comfort his wife and family, and his coworkers)

  241. foreverblessed says:

    ohh,sorry, it was the son of Rees Howells, Samuel Rees Howells, who Reinhard was inspired by. From father to son, to disciples. But most of all, disciples of Jesus

  242. poohpity says:

    It seems God has gifted each member of His body with Spiritual gifts to serve, as Mart put it “willingness to live and die for a chance to love like he(Jesus) did”. (1 Cor 12:4 NLT; 1 Peter 4:10 NLT) Spiritual gifts enable us to grow in the knowledge of Christ and to be a blessing to His church and those future believers in other words being salt and light.

    Administration
    Being an apostle
    Discernment
    Evangelism
    Exhortation
    Faith
    Giving
    Healing
    Helps
    Hospitality
    Knowledge
    Leadership
    Mercy
    Prophecy
    Serving
    Speaking in tongues
    Teaching (sometimes known as shepherding)
    Wisdom

    Romans 12:4-5 NLT

    God did not have to use mankind to be of service to one another but it seems to help in our feelings of belonging and for a higher purpose to love like He loved us.

    John 13: So he got up from the table, took off his robe, wrapped a towel around his waist, 5 and poured water into a basin. Then he began to wash the disciples’ feet, drying them with the towel he had around him.

    6 When Jesus came to Simon Peter, Peter said to him, “Lord, are you going to wash my feet?”

    7 Jesus replied, “You don’t understand now what I am doing, but someday you will.”……..

    After washing their feet, he put on his robe again and sat down and asked, “Do you understand what I was doing? 13 You call me ‘Teacher’ and ‘Lord,’ and you are right, because that’s what I am. 14 And since I, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you ought to wash each other’s feet. 15 I have given you an example to follow. Do as I have done to you.

  243. poohpity says:

    In thinking about what Jesus did, he even washed the feet of the one He knew would betray Him and also dipped the bread in the wine and gave it to him. Now that is loving your enemies and more than that told Judas that what he was about to do he would suffer in his heart over it. Jesus presented him with the choice and even shared what the consequences of his behaviors would lead to, now that is love and such amazing grace.

  244. Beloved says:

    I also heard about the passing to Glory of Reinhardt B last night. Oh what a joyous reunion that must have been! I loved listening to him on tv years ago and in his bio brought thousands to Christ in Africa. Such a graceful compassionate man of God. I get The Intercessor in the mail which is nice to have hard copy to read; such good stuff, deep things of God.

  245. poohpity says:

    Are you even willing to wash the feet of your enemies and extend them grace? Or would you attack them instead? Who do you follow the ways of the world or the One who has died for your forgiveness, mercy and grace?

  246. street says:

    i don’t think we are to look for enemies so we can serve them. we did that in the flesh before we knew Christ.

    the question is can i speak the Truth in Love by action and Word, in Spirit and truth? even pilot could tell Jesus was innocent. you don’t have to be a Christian to recognize one. the conflict arises when two different agendas meet. to give light to free people from deception and darkness is a gift of God to man. first done in Christ, then the apostle and then followers.

    there is unity in the body of Christ, not to be missed.

    as john said i am not, i am not. yet Jesus speaks of the least of the Kingdom being greater than john. new wine skins? what was Jesus speaking about new wine for new skins? there is mention of a new covenant and new life. new food and a new agenda. i think it much better to serve the Eternal Living God than the creation or even self that is passing away. this brings me back to even non-Christians can tell the difference. can a city on a hill be hidden?

  247. poohpity says:

    street who ever suggested to look for our enemies to serve them?

    I think if you look up what speaking the truth in love actually means it might surprise you. Who is the truth?

    Eph 4: So Christ himself gave the apostles, the prophets, the evangelists, the pastors and teachers, 12 to equip his people for works of service, so that the body of Christ may be built up 13 until we all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

    14 Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the cunning and craftiness of people in their deceitful scheming. 15 Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will grow to become in every respect the mature body of him who is the head, that is, Christ. 16 From him the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

    New wine is the new way and celebrating Jesus being with His disciples as the long awaited One. So John the Baptist and the Pharisees were fasting in the old way but since Jesus was with them and He is the new way they should not fast but celebrate. Matthew 9:14–17, Mark 2:21–22, and Luke 5:33–39

  248. Beloved says:

    Galatians 5:15. Bible gateway commentary:
    15 But, says he, if instead of serving one another in love, and therein fulfilling the law of God, you bite and devour one another, take heed that you be not consumed one of another. If, instead of acting like men and Christians, they would behave themselves more like brute beasts, in tearing and rending one another, they could expect nothing as the consequence of it, but that they would be consumed one of another; and therefore they had the greatest reason not to indulge themselves in such quarrels and animosities. Note, Mutual strifes among brethren, if persisted in, are likely to prove a common ruin; those that devour one another are in a fair way to be consumed one of another. Christian churches cannot be ruined but by their own hands; but if Christians, who should be helps to one another and a joy one to another, be as brute beasts, biting and devouring each other, what can be expected but that the God of love should deny his grace to them, and the Spirit of love should depart from them, and that the evil spirit, who seeks the destruction of them all, should prevail?II. That they should all strive against sin; and happy would it be for the church if Christians would let all their quarrels be swallowed up of this, even a quarrel against sin-if, instead of biting and devouring one another on account of their different opinions, they would all set themselves against sin in themselves and the places where they live. This is what we are chiefly concerned to fight against, and that which above every thing else we should make it our business to oppose and suppress.

  249. street says:

    street who ever suggested to look for our enemies to serve them?

    Are you even willing to wash the feet of your enemies and extend them grace?

    guess i was not reading between the lines.

  250. street says:

    i think we are to wash the feet of the saints.

  251. jeff1 says:

    I have left my enemies in God’s hands because I cannot change them and though I now understand and have empathy with them I do not trust their motives as they have not tried to build bridges but continue to make mischief.

    Since Jesus came into my heart I will hope and pray that they will see their bias as I now see my bias and trust God rather then my own understanding.

    I will wash the feet of whom Jesus commands me too because it is His will that I do and not of my own understanding.

    God will walk with me down streets where no one else will walk
    God will talk with me of things that no one else will talk
    When no one else will walk and no one else will talk when no one will God will
    God will share with me the little worries no one knows are there
    God will care for me whenever there is no one else to care
    When no one will be there and no one else will share when no one will God will
    God will think of me when friends forget and fail to understand
    God will strengthen me when I am weak and need a helping hand
    When no one understands or lends a helping hand
    When no one will God will when no one will God will

  252. poohpity says:

    Street, looking a little deeper were we not enemies of God? Would you call Judas Iscariot an enemy of Jesus since he betrayed Him? How about the dispirit Samarotian who tended to the the wounds of the person who was beat tp and robbed left by the side of the road? Aren’t we asked to do good to our enemies because any person will do good to those who do good back but it takes a special spiritual heart to do good to those who are our enemies?

    So isn’t doing good to enemies like what God did for us?

  253. street says:

    poo you can not consider evil equal to the victims of evil.
    looking into your darkness only causes doubt confusion and death. i’ll keeping looking to Jesus.

  254. Beloved says:

    Street your comment about evil helps me. Being told by several pastors (2 in college) that I was evil because of the evil done to me and withholding the remedy, Christ, in their pronouncements left me kind of hopeless. Also being told I have more sin to deal with than most has always left me feeling I did not belong in the Body, feeling I am different than most. This helps me so much! Yet Jesus never left me alone, how could He! We are kin!

    Ya know, I had decided to quit reading/writing here yesterday, and talked with God about it but didn’t have peace about my decision. Now I know why! You have no idea how God has used you today. Every time on here I am called a liar or hateful etc it is the devil’s words for sure making sure I doubt and question the power of God through Christ by putting my eyes/thoughts toward myself instead of victory in Christ!

    When things here or anywhere seem darkest I remember the light always reveals what’s true and good. Though I walk through the valley of the shadow- shadow! (Of death). Thou art with me! Amen

  255. poohpity says:

    street could not reflect on or answer those questions could you? Aren’t they what Jesus teaches?

  256. Beloved says:

    One can either walk in defiance (self, pride) or in humility and trust. The difference really comes out on the blog. I see it more clearly now.

  257. poohpity says:

    If a person is not familiar with the teaching of Jesus or the leading of the Holy Spirit they fall for anything then turn and attack out of ignorance.

  258. SFDBWV says:

    I’m going to tell two stories, I am sure I told one before, but I am now an old man and can get away with repeating my stories…

    When I was a child I had a dog that I loved and he followed me everywhere I went. We were best buds. My dad had found him abandoned and alone along the road and picked him up and brought him home to me.

    One afternoon while passing by the town’s post office another dog and he got into a fight. It was a pretty intense dog fight complete with biting each other.

    So I tried to break up the fight only to get bitten myself.

    So at the young and tender age of 9 or 10 I learned the lesson to let the dogs fight and just leave them alone.

    When I worked in the coal mines I worked with a fellow named Charlie Wilhem, he could have been cast as “Grumpy” in the “Snow White” story as the little dwarf that was, well, grumpy.

    Such an unpleasant man was he that when his nephew was hired on at the mine his nephew denied even knowing him. Of course the truth got out and under obvious embarrassment he had to acknowledge being related to Charlie.

    Charlie argued with everyone about everything. He would disagree with you about the most obvious of issues and no one truthfully liked him, they just laughed him off as being who he was (he is dead now) and avoided conversation outside of work related matter at all.

    One afternoon while he and I were dressing in the bath house at the mine (bath house is what we called the building where we changed our clothes and showered after working our shift) he began asking me about some political or some other matter and of course disagreed with whatever I said was my opinion.

    Frustrated with trying to make or prove my point I finally caved in and said “Charlie, you are right and I am wrong, I fully agree with you at every level.”

    Whereupon he just as quickly said to me, “Now wait a minute Steve you have a good point too.”

    Charlie just liked to argue.

    I hope all of you are blessed today.

    Rain and fog at 36 degrees.

    Steve

  259. Beloved says:

    His yoke is easy and His burden is light.

  260. foreverblessed says:

    Sorry true Steve, someone who likes to argue.
    So you got out of the debate by just saying: I agree with everything you said!

    That seemed easy.

    Now Steve wrote something about:

    It is written that God created everything that exists by and through The Son

    The next comment posted was this:

    First, God did not create everything through His Son

    but by His spoken Word. Example Genesis 1:3 “God SAID, ‘Let there be light’, and there was light. (Psalm 33:6,9) All things were made through God as John was introducing Jesus in John 1 He was making sure that people realized exactly who Jesus is, fully God and fully man. John 1:1 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

    Nobody said anything about this:
    ….

    Just let it go, and keep praying intercessory prayer.

    God, forgive, we are often so ignorant.

  261. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed, how is the weather there for you today?

    Recently God reminded me of something He told me long ago when I was but about 13 years old.

    I may want to bypass all of life’s pitfalls, difficulties, and suffering, but this path is the way I must travel. But not to worry in the end it all comes to a happy ending.

    Yes we are all very ignorant concerning God, and those who think they aren’t are the most ignorant of all.

    Steve

  262. Beloved says:

    I and my Father are one.

    Christ in you, the hope of glory.

    How do we absorb an insult attack or whatever offense, I have been asking God. By giving it to Jesus- passing it on so to speak. And then what? Steve as always has good practical advice. Boots on the ground advice lol!

    Yesterday in Sunday school we were reminded not to go by our feelings but to read and do what the Word of God tells is to do. We talked about the situational ethics prevalent in the 70’s, and it really made us think of ways we may be still influenced by that deception, most all being grey heads there. Although I believe today’s newer believers still must grapple with it.

  263. foreverblessed says:

    “How do we absorb an insult attack or whatever offense, I have been asking God. By giving it to Jesus- passing it on so to speak. And then what? ”

    Then…
    This is my take: ask for His mercy, grace, love, peace.

    Years ago I heard:
    The Cross is the Great Exchange

    We give our dirt to Him
    And He gives His good gifts to us Gal 5:22-23

    So that is quite diffetent from living by rules

    And by the way, Beloved:
    What is the situational ethics?

  264. Beloved says:

    Forever Jesus gives me His peace mercy grace and love just being in His presence. I don’t ask, its just there, it’s Who He is. His Holy Spirit fills me with all those good things! Sometimes I ask Him for a double dose of His Spirit to let me do something that is hard for me but is according to His will.

    Situational ethics says we must define moral decisions based on the situation at hand and what WE FEEL is the loving thing to do. The question put to us was; is it ever ok to lie? If you were hiding Jews in your basement and Nazis knocked at the door asking if you had Jews in your house what would you say? What does the Bible say about lying? John says the devil is a liar and all lies are of the devil. So is it ever ok to lie? Either to save yourself or others?

    It was a former priest turned atheist who proposed this philosophy.

  265. foreverblessed says:

    Steve, our weather is wet windy and cold, (well not freezing.)
    But we need the water, to fill up for the lack of rain, the laste two springs and summers.

    We here need to face the fact that sea level is rising. With the huge water defense-works they thought for 200 years it would be OK.
    Nobody suspected in the beginning of the 60s that water would risee muche faster. The most populated area’s are below sealevel.

    Where I live it is plus 2 meter.

    You live in the mountains, quite high. There are other problems, and beauties.

    The second Song of Ascents
    Psalm 121:1-8

    I lift up my eyes to the mountains—
    where does my help come from?
    2
    My help comes from the Lord,
    the Maker of heaven and earth.

    3
    He will not let your foot slip—
    he who watches over you will not slumber;
    4
    indeed, he who watches over Israel
    will neither slumber nor sleep.

    5
    The Lord watches over you—
    the Lord is your shade at your right hand;
    6
    the sun will not harm you by day,
    nor the moon by night.

    7
    The Lord will keep you from all harm—
    he will watch over your life;
    8
    the Lord will watch over your coming and going
    both now and forevermore.

  266. street says:

    light in darkness.

    Jesus says those who claim to see become blind and the blind can see.

    thinking of faith and hope. who hopes for what they already have? who trusts in temporal things. faith in Christ is trust in the eternal unchanging God. God calls it faith when we trust what we can not see with our eyes. we trust in the One speaking. not audible words in the hearing, but audible to the heart. the mind is another difficulty, to be renewed daily. like a daily shower or daily food. He restores my soul to a Holy God and makes all things new. the Lord speak to you, (bless you).

    He said come to Me. what is holding you back? i pray nothing.

    29 Being then the children of God, we ought not to think that the Divine Nature is like gold or silver or stone, an image formed by the art and thought of man. 30 Therefore having overlooked the times of ignorance, God is now declaring to men that all people everywhere should repent, 31 because He has fixed a day in which He will judge [a]the world in righteousness [b]through a Man whom He has appointed, having furnished proof to all men [c]by raising Him from the dead.”

    17 So this I say, and affirm together with the Lord, that you walk no longer just as the Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their mind, 18 being darkened in their understanding, [a]excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart; 19 and they, having become callous, have given themselves over to sensuality [b]for the practice of every kind of impurity with greediness.

    13 Therefore, [a]prepare your minds for action, [b]keep sober in spirit, fix your hope completely on the grace [c]to be brought to you at the revelation of Jesus Christ. 14 As [d]obedient children, do not [e]be conformed to the former lusts which were yours in your ignorance, 15 but [f]like the Holy One who called you, [g]be holy yourselves also in all your behavior;

    15 For [b]such is the will of God that by doing right you may silence the ignorance of foolish men. 16 Act as free men, and [c]do not use your freedom as a covering for evil, but use it as bondslaves of God.

  267. foreverblessed says:

    That makes me think of the sister of Corry ten Boom, or was iets Corrye herself?
    When the germans came into their house, they asked:
    Where are the people you hide?
    Betsy pointed under the table and said: “There”

    The rest of the family was shocked by her honost answer, as the people were really hiding under the table, in a double floor.
    But the german soldiers nodded in dismay, as they could see nobody under the table.
    Betsy didn’t lie, and God saved them anyway.

  268. Beloved says:

    We always have choices don’t we. Avoiding troublers may be Gods will today, but tomorrow we don’t know. Trusting He is right even though a troubler shows up in my face tells me God is teaching me something and to turn to Him that second and listen to Him. Oh yes He surprises me sometimes. But always gives me what I need, peace patience kindness love etc. If I don’t turn toward Him I get cranky, frustrated and annoyed. Boots are made for walking so we are not to get stalled out there unless God nails my boots to the floor in which case He wants to show me more of His goodness to all. Oh He is so good!

  269. street says:

    2 Then Joshua the son of Nun sent two men as spies secretly from Shittim, saying, “Go, view the land, especially Jericho.” So they went and came into the house of a harlot whose name was Rahab, and [a]lodged there. 2 It was told the king of Jericho, saying, “Behold, men from the sons of Israel have come here tonight to search out the land.” 3 And the king of Jericho sent word to Rahab, saying, “Bring out the men who have come to you, who have entered your house, for they have come to search out all the land.”

    it would seems her fear of God was greater than her fear of the king. this fear preserved her life and the lives of those who came under her roof. can your roof, faith save you?

  270. Beloved says:

    Yes Forever, we talked also about how God can blind the eyes and even change the minds of people so His will is done!

  271. Beloved says:

    Sorry street I’m not ignoring you I will read your posts in a minute.

    One thought about battles: do we choose our battles, or does God? Some problems are not for us to deal with. Like the impeachment hearings, lol. Not a part of it and am so glad, but, if I was I would participate with the the grace God give me to do it as well as the gift.

  272. poohpity says:

    Ignorance is not a put down it is easier to say ignorance than saying a lack of knowledge but with any lack of knowledge or ignorance there is a remedy and that is to learn. Every person is ignorant in many areas just because they have not learned about the subject yet and I would say that with God there is so much all of us are ignorant of but there is also many things that we can learn over time and with an open mind that desires to learn and God has said that He is willing to impart wisdom to those who do ask if they really want to know. God knows who those people are because after all He knows how we think and what we think without even uttering a word.

  273. street says:

    It would seem the Devil always implies a knowledge to be gained. Yet only gives sorrow pain and death. How long Lord till I love and treasure all your words? It would seem repentance and humility are high on God’s list for His children. God does make sinners just and righteous. To sin more or serve in Spirit and Truth?

  274. poohpity says:

    Isn’t it the devil who says nothing to learn here turn away? You do not need the Good Teacher rely on the ways of man.

    Matt 5: Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy. 8Blessed are the pure in heart, for they will see God. 9Blessed are the peacemakers, for they will be called sons of God.…

  275. street says:

    It’s ok beloved there are more than one conversation or thoughts going on. Just trying to keep One Lord in mind and ❤️.

  276. jeff1 says:

    Tell me the old, old story
    Of unseen things above,
    Of Jesus and His glory,
    Of Jesus and His love.
    Tell me the story simply,
    As to a little child,
    For I am weak and weary,
    And helpless and defiled.

    Refrain:

    Tell me the old, old story,
    Tell me the old, old story,
    Tell me the old, old story,
    Of Jesus and His love.

    Tell me the story slowly,
    That I may take it in,
    That wonderful redemption,
    God’s remedy for sin.
    Tell me the story often,
    For I forget so soon;
    The early dew of morning
    Has passed away at noon.

    Refrain

    Tell me the story softly,
    With earnest tones and grave;
    Remember I’m the sinner
    Whom Jesus came to save.
    Tell me the story always,
    If you would really be,
    In any time of trouble,
    A comforter to me.

    Refrain

    Tell me the same old story
    When you have cause to fear
    That this world’s empty glory
    Is costing me too dear.
    Yes, and when that world’s glory
    Is dawning on my soul,
    Tell me the old, old story:
    Christ Jesus makes thee whole.

  277. poohpity says:

    Thank you Viv for gifting us with the blessing of song.

  278. street says:

    Salt and Light

    thinking of paul.
    how he refused to use his office to rule over believers.

    23 But I call God as witness [m]to my soul, that to spare you I did not come again to Corinth. 24 Not that we lord it over your faith, but are workers with you for your joy; for in your faith you are standing firm.

    he also refused to build upon another mans work. my understanding is he taught to build upon the rock, Jesus. getting people to turn to Christ,Jesus, for righteousness. all His words are treasure tried by fire.
    the river of grace never stops flowing from Him from heaven. job discover his trust in God was well placed.

    the true tragedy of life is failing to understand the tragedy of good friday. without good friday man is a tragedy. with good friday and what followed is hope in a restoration of epic proportions. a new Spirit and a new life that will never end. solomon understood vanity. He knew we should fear God, but why? the cross of Christ clears that up. a sinless man and God dying to save sinful man. how should we live know?

    11 and that every tongue will confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

    12 So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; 13 for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.

  279. foreverblessed says:

    Not lord it over your faith, but are workers with you for your joy; for in your faith you are standing firm.

    This is the Advent, joy!

    I am preparing van christmas celebration for next week, thursday, in the old people’s home. It will be mostly singing.
    What a wonderful songs, singing and worshipping Jesus.

    This past year it dawned onze meeI see that the Psalms 130-134 are like Advent songs.

    The first two I have already posted, now today number 3:

    Psalm 123:1-9

    A song of ascents. Of David.

    1
    I rejoiced with those who said to me,
    “Let us go to the house of the Lord.”
    2
    Our feet are standing
    in your gates, Jerusalem.

    3
    Jerusalem is built like a city
    that is closely compacted together.
    4
    That is where the tribes go up—
    the tribes of the Lord—
    to praise the name of the Lord
    according to the statute given to Israel.
    5
    There stand the thrones for judgment,
    the thrones of the house of David.

    6
    Pray for the peace of Jerusalem:
    “May those who love you be secure.
    7
    May there be peace within your walls
    and security within your citadels.”
    8
    For the sake of my family and friends,
    I will say, “Peace be within you.”
    9
    For the sake of the house of the Lord our God,
    I will seek your prosperity.

  280. foreverblessed says:

    It dawned on me
    Not those Dutch words that appeared:
    “This past year it dawned onze meeI see that the Psalms 130-134 are like Advent songs.”

    This Thursday Chris is having a Christmass mission in the prison.
    Praying for that too.
    That in this Christmass time many will get touched by the Gospel:
    The baby born in a manger became the One Who bore our sins on the Cross
    Through Him we can be free!

  281. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Foreverblessed, thank you for the Psalm 121:1-8 KJV whereas it could be said I have many favorite verses of Scripture this one is certainly one of them.

    As an amateur student of the sciences, archeology is one that tells a great deal about our past and an environment these people lived in so very different from today.

    Deep in a cave in Kentucky there are artifacts that include arrowheads like those found only in the south of France in other archeological digs.

    The problem being how did these people get from Europe to America during the last ice age thousands of years before anyone else got credit for “discovering” the new world?

    I have read of many Scandinavian villages discovered underwater including an ancient vast forest with inhabitation under the North Sea.

    A study of the American Southwest shows of a time when rivers ran deep that no longer exist and any climatologist would agree that the American Great Lakes are a gift from the receding last ice age.

    When I read of so much attention being discussed of global climate change because of the actions and foot print of mankind and the belief that we as people can reverse or alter it, I sigh under the arrogance of man.

    Nimrod was the king of Babel and it was there that the people built a tower that reached into the heavens. Some Bible scholars believe the idea was to make a safe place from any further floods in defiance of God. They even said they wanted to make a name for themselves lest they be scattered abroad upon the face of the earth.

    Well as both history and the Biblical story bear out, God will not be mocked and the descendants of Noah were indeed scattered all over the earth and only a small monument stands to remember the tower still to this day in Northern Iraq.

    Revelation speaks of a time when there will be nowhere safe from the destruction of the elements as islands will sink in the sea and mountains will be shook to the ground.

    There is no true safe place that I know of on earth.

    However for today, I pray the ocean remains at bay for you and those you love and rain will come and quench the dry earth of your concern.

    Thank you for your thoughts.

    Rain and 52 degrees f this morning.

    Steve

  282. jeff1 says:

    street says:
    December 9, 2019 at 9:23 pm

    the true tragedy of life is failing to understand the tragedy of good friday. without good friday man is a tragedy.

    Not disagreeing to be argumentative but some things are meant to be and so I do not see the tragedy of Good Friday but rather the Glory that it radiates.

    “Mary’s Boy Child / Oh My Lord”

    Mary’s boy child Jesus Christ, was born on Christmas Day
    And man will live for evermore, because of Christmas Day

    Long time ago in Bethlehem, so the Holy Bible said
    Mary’s boy child Jesus Christ, was born on Christmas Day

    Hark, now hear the angels sing, a king was born today
    And man will live for evermore, because of Christmas Day
    Mary’s boy child Jesus Christ, was born on Christmas Day

    While shepherds watch their flocks by night
    They see a bright new shining star
    They hear a choir sing a song, the music seemed to come from afar

    Hark, now hear the angels sing, a king was born today
    And man will live for evermore, because of Christmas Day

    For a moment the world was aglow, all the bells rang out
    There were tears of joy and laughter, people shouted
    “Let everyone know, there is hope for all to find peace”

    And then they found a little nook in a stable all forlorn
    And in a manger cold and dark, Mary’s little boy was born

    Hark, now hear the angels sing, a king was born today
    And man will live for evermore, because of Christmas Day
    Mary’s boy child Jesus Christ, was born on Christmas Day

    Oh a moment still worth was a glow, all the bells rang out
    There were tears of joy and laughter, people shouted
    “Let everyone know, there is hope for all to find peace”

    Oh my Lord
    You sent your son to save us
    Oh my Lord
    Your very self you gave us
    Oh my Lord
    That sin may not enslave us
    And love may reign once more

    Oh my Lord
    When in the crib they found him
    Oh my Lord
    A golden halo crowned him
    Oh my Lord
    They gathered all around him
    To see him and adore

    (This day will live forever)
    Oh my Lord (So praise the Lord)
    They had become to doubt you
    Oh my Lord (He is the truth forever)
    What did they know about you
    Oh my Lord (So praise the Lord)
    But they were lost without you
    They needed you so bad (His light is shining on us)

    Oh my Lord (So praise the Lord)
    With the child’s adoration
    Oh my lord (He is a personation)
    There came great jubilation
    Oh my Lord (So praise the Lord)
    And full of admiration
    They realized what they had (until the sun falls from the sky)

    Oh my Lord (Oh praise the Lord)
    You sent your son to save us
    Oh my Lord (This day will live forever)
    Your very self you gave us
    Oh my Lord (So praise the Lord)
    That sin may not enslave us
    And love may reign once more

  283. Beloved says:

    1 I’d rather have Jesus than silver or gold;
    I’d rather be His than have riches untold;
    I’d rather have Jesus than houses or lands.
    I’d rather be led by His nail pierced hand

    Chorus:
    Than to be the king of a vast domain
    Or be held in sin’s dread sway.
    I’d rather have Jesus than anything
    This world affords today.

    2 I’d rather have Jesus than men’s applause;
    I’d rather be faithful to His dear cause;
    I’d rather have Jesus than worldwide fame.
    I’d rather be true to His holy name [Chorus]

    3 He’s fairer than lilies of rarest bloom;
    He’s sweeter than honey from out the comb;
    He’s all that my hungering spirit needs.
    I’d rather have Jesus and let Him lead [Chorus]

  284. street says:

    my sin my sin

    yes jeff there is Great Glory in the cross of Christ!!!

    the cross where perfection was slaughter like a lamb silent before His tormentors. the lamb lay His life down. it was not taken from Him. restored by His Father. blameless and perfect in every way!

    been thinking about the son of God adam and….

    the Son of man…..Who is God.

    the Older serving the younger…..saving and restoring.

    john said He preceded me because He was before me.

    let Him, Jesus, be before me always.

    even if He slay me i will trust in Him and bless His Name.

    paul reminded us that his suffering was for our glory and comfort.

    5 For just as the sufferings of Christ are ours in abundance, so also our comfort is abundant through Christ. 6 But if we are afflicted, it is for your comfort and salvation; or if we are comforted, it is for your comfort, which is effective in the patient enduring of the same sufferings which we also suffer; 7 and our hope for you is firmly grounded, knowing that as you are sharers of our sufferings, so also you are sharers of our comfort. salt and light.

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