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Silent Films, Transcripts, and Talkies

In a bitter political season some said, “Don’t listen to what they say. Watch what they do.” During the same time, others reminded us that “words matter.”

Trying to make sense of two seemingly opposite thoughts, I’ve been wondering what it would be like to have nothing more than a silent film of the life of Jesus. No words. Just action and music.

Or what would it be like to know him as a teacher, philosopher or story teller—with no record of what he did—just a transcript of what he said. Just words. No action.

If we could only have one without the other, which would interest us more? Am guessing it would be the action version. Yet action without explanation would leave us with far more questions than answers.

Seems like it’s the action part that made it hard for those who wanted their own followers to believe Jesus was a deceiver. And seems like it’s the timeless relevance of his words— together with the compassionate things he did— that give us reason to want to be counted among the friends and citizens of his kingdom, so many years later.


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  1. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Mart, just a few thoughts as this morning has already been and is becoming overwhelming.

    My quick and short answer to your comments is that it is what Jesus is recorded as saying, that has always given me hope and His actions as proof that what he said comes with authority.

    Like the woman who grabbed ahold of Jesus’ garment and wouldn’t let go, I too cling to Him and won’t let go. Whereas that is action from me it is because of the promises He made.

    Steve

  2. bullwinkle11 says:

    I couldn’t get logged in yesterday, missed that chance to thank you Steve for your service to our country.
    Not sure exactly how to split the action from the words, even in the old silent films they would add text to help get their point across. With the Gospels we do have words from Jesus but we also have the description of what was happening around Him.
    Still the old axiom holds: Actions speak louder than words.

  3. poohpity says:

    I agree bull with the old axiom. James put it another way, “What good is it, dear brothers and sisters, if you say you have faith but don’t show it by your actions? Can that kind of faith save anyone? 15 Suppose you see a brother or sister who has no food or clothing, 16 and you say, “Good-bye and have a good day; stay warm and eat well”—but then you don’t give that person any food or clothing. What good does that do?

    17 So you see, faith by itself isn’t enough. Unless it produces good deeds, it is dead and useless.

    18 Now someone may argue, “Some people have faith; others have good deeds.” But I say, “How can you show me your faith if you don’t have good deeds? I will show you my faith by my good deeds.”

    19 You say you have faith, for you believe that there is one God. Good for you! Even the demons believe this, and they tremble in terror. 20 How foolish! Can’t you see that faith without good deeds is useless?”

    Just like the political season we are in now here in the USA many say lots of things making many promises and then the same person says others things almost the opposite but never show any of it in actions. Then there are those who have shown by actions in fulfilling promises but may not have the words people like so people do not pay attention to the actions. So that old axiom applies as usual. The difference in walking the talk or simply talking the talk.

    But as Jesus told the disciples of John go back and tell him what you seen and heard so that he would believe that Jesus was from God and is the One who he was waiting for. Isaiah 61:1; Matt 11:3-5; Luke 7:22

  4. poohpity says:

    What does it say even about this blog if it was going good and people way back when were actually following the guidelines and it was beneficial to the ministry of ODB my hunch is that this blog would have never been pulled from under their umbrella. In this case have not actions spoken louder than words? It seems Mart never had to say anything he acted on what was the best for the over all ministry and allowed those who were here to have a place to share which is the very action of the grace Mart showed us.

  5. poohpity says:

    I am just as guilty as others are for being part of the problem.

  6. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Pete. Sometimes that part of my life seems like it was someone else, though I have plenty of “scars” from those years that helped shape me into who I am today.

    Both Matthew and I agree that actions speak louder than words. Especially from those of us who proclaim to be Christ-like while all the time behaving more self-driven.

    Steve

  7. poohpity says:

    I wrote to Mart years ago and apologized for my part but when I apologized I did not accuse others or point my finger at anyone else just my part in it.

  8. poohpity says:

    Steve, if I remember right it was only you who proclaimed how spirit filled and godly you are and I do not remember anyone else proclaiming any such of a thing.

    Sometimes people only see and hear what fits in with their own perspective.

  9. SFDBWV says:

    I have told this story many times before, but once again it fits into our conversation.

    As I come into contact with some people, especially clerks at stores who automatically ask “How are you today”, I usually have a little saying I throw out, when feel appropriate.

    My answer to “How are you today”, “Super excellent!” Which always gets a surprised response. “What did you say?” and I reply once again “Super excellent” and they usually say that they have never heard anyone say that.

    Which opens up my next comment that it comes with a little “sermon”. Having now their curiosity I continue by saying that God created all that exists by what He *said*, not by what he wished or thought, but by what He *said*.

    We, created in His image, also have the ability to create by what we say and so I say I am having a super excellent day.

    It always is received with a smile and I hope a memory.

    Steve

  10. jeff1 says:

    I didn’t get of to a good start when it comes to God but Jesus changed that because of His words and compassion.

    He puts in me the desire to be a better person because trying to follow the rules showed me how I fell short of His ways.

    Its a struggle to be the kind of person Christ is as He challenges me to see from not a worldly perspective but from the greater good.

    Any biases I have gets in His way in His Kingdom or that is what He is showing me that saddens me today.

    He is my refuge and that makes Him a greater friend to me than I am to Him by all accounts.

    My Forever Friend
    Charlie Landsborough

    Everybody needs a little help sometime
    No one stands alone
    Makes no difference if you’re just a child like me
    Or a king upon a throne
    For there are no exceptions
    We all stand in the line
    Everybody needs a friend
    Let me tell you of mine
    ——-
    CHORUS:
    He’s my forever friend
    My leave-me-never friend
    From darkest night to rainbow’s end
    He’s my forever friend
    ——-
    Even when I turn away He cares for me
    His love no one can shake
    Even as I walk away He’s by my side
    With every breath I take
    And sometimes I forget Him
    My halo fails to shine
    Sometimes I’m not His friend
    But He is always mine
    ——-
    REPEAT CHORUS:
    If you still don’t know the one I’m talking of
    I think it’s time you knew
    Long ago and far away upon a cross
    My friend died for you
    So if you’d like to meet Him
    And don’t know what to do
    Ask my friend into you heart
    And He’ll be your friend too
    ——-
    REPEAT CHORUS:

    He’s My Forever Friend

  11. foreverblessed says:

    My Forever Friend

    Hey, He is!

    Words without action
    Action without Words

    But….because the Word is Spirit
    Words of God have spiritual Life in them.

    It was the hardest lesson I had to learn
    It us all about Jesus!
    Faith in Jesus
    Faith in itself us nothing but faith connects us to Jesus, it makes the pipeline connected, and the the Spirit of Jesus flow through us.
    The Spirit is life eternal life
    Life in the Son of God, Jesus, the Living Word.
    When He speaks that means Life in us.

    I was thinking about this saying:
    Jesus did not come to make us better persons
    He came to make dead people alive

  12. Beloved says:

    Well, this conversation could go round and round- words/actions. But some words definitely carry worldly thinking behind them, like Pooh’s thoughts about Mart. If the best we can do is to project evil onto a Christian then one needs to seek Jesus and His words and actions. Nothing anyone says is going to make a difference. As we draw near to to God he draws near to us. Sorry to use Pooh as an example because I’ve done the same thing but it seems to follow the topic nicely. Strictly clinical thinking nothing personal.

  13. Beloved says:

    Referring to “What does it say even about this blog if it was going good and people way back when were actually following the guidelines and it was beneficial to the ministry of ODB my hunch is that this blog would have never been pulled from under their umbrella.”Pooh)

  14. Beloved says:

    Mart, would you be so kind as to explain how God led you to separate from ODB? It would clear confusion- but only if you are so led. Some seem to use it to condemn. However the criticism could be used of God also- humility.

  15. bratimus says:

    For me wondering if things could be different is hard for me to do, because things are the way things are, and through my faith it will all work to the purpose of God, God’s will.

    I’m trying to walk through these times as peacefully as possible, and try and be Christ like, not claiming I will do a very good job at that, I’ll try!

    So thing are the way things are, and my faith says to me God is in control.

    In Christ Jesus name
    Bratimus

  16. Beloved says:

    My recollection is that Mart pulled away from ODB after some here criticized his daughters gay out coming and Mart attended a seminar that really touched him of others coming out and the pain and rejection they felt. That it was a ministry decision not having anything to do with “rules”, as some keep harping about. But a decision out of love for his daughter. Love is kind.

  17. jeff1 says:

    Thinking of this quote from C. S. Lewis and I see that what you say Bratimus is right God wants us to do our best and He does the rest.

    “It is not your business to succeed, but to do right. When you have done so the rest lies with god.” C. S. Lewis

    God knows this is a challenging world and I shouldn’t forget that and wrong expectations on my part won’t change God’s purpose.

    God wants me to learn patience and endurance so that I have peace in an uncertain world and that comes from trusting Him with the complexities of it.

    There is contentment from knowing He is in control whatever the circumstances.

  18. poohpity says:

    Beloved, none of what you shared was the truth @12:49pm. That was not your business to share and that is not at all what happened how dare you? Who do you think you are? She came on here and called people who say they are Christian’s accountable about pointing out sin in the life of someone else and neglecting the sin in the one who was pointing the finger. She was blasting SELF RIGHTEOUSNESS and she had ever right to do so. Actually the person she was blasting was foreverblessed and I thought she was right on in doing so.

  19. street says:

    was watching a film clip on you tube from the Serpranoes, mafia family. the clip was about a revenge killing of some one they knew. the justification for killing was because of the way he did it?!?!

    another idea that came to mind was when the “f” word was used on nation wide news clip with out being bleeped out as a firefight response to the second plane hitting the second tower. some complained about it but seem to miss the fact that 3000 people died. the camel nat mentality. the things that shock us and the things that do not? one has to wonder what value system one is using?

    by the way, love the topic. been thinking about it. the problem / dilemma of evil with the present of a Holy Just God! the accuser failed

  20. Beloved says:

    Timeless relevance of His words…It takes imagination to “see”Jesus speaking, His inflections and phrasing can change according to the speaker, I’ve heard it. I’ve tried it myself and I think it may be why some see/hear Him as a ruthless judgemental table breaking messiah and some as a child blessing prostitute defending savior. So how do we reconcile His judgement for sin and His perfect love and kindness- both of which He is known by. Good to think about. Very good.

  21. Beloved says:

    The problem of evil- always a problem. Too much to think about for me- both Jesus AND the enemy. I’ll leave that to the apologists among us.

  22. Beloved says:

    I hope you don’t mind me sharing this again. It’s beautiful!

    street says:
    November 12, 2020 at 12:10 am
    My life flows on in endless song;
    Above earth’s lamentation,
    I hear the sweet, though far-off hymn
    That hails a new creation
    Through all the tumult and the strife,
    I hear that music ringing
    It finds an echo in my soul
    How can I keep from singing?
    What though my joys and comforts die?
    I know my Savior liveth
    What though the darkness gather round?
    Songs in the night he giveth
    No storm can shake my inmost calm
    While to that refuge clinging
    Since Christ is Lord of heaven and earth
    How can I keep from singing?
    I lift my eyes, the cloud grows thin
    I see the blue above it
    And day by day this pathway smooths,
    Since first I learned to love it,
    The peace of Christ makes fresh my heart
    A fountain ever springing
    For all things are mine since I am his
    How can I keep from singing?
    No storm can shake my inmost calm
    While to that refuge clinging
    Since Christ is Lord of heaven and earth
    How can I keep from singing

  23. street says:

    was working outside clearing land. i set down my leather gloves. i knew i had them, but where did i set them down??? how many times have i set off without God only to realize how foolish i had been. remember paul speaking of armor. following is a different way of living.

  24. foreverblessed says:

    To start of without God….
    O dear, yes, that is the hard lesson we have to learn.
    Let our old self go free reign,
    Or…
    Remember that we wear sash of myrrh around our neck, it hangs just above our ❤️.

    The fact that Everything and all is covered by the blood and body of Jesus Christ.
    If I have that viewpoint, then I have to think about that episode of the daughter of Mart.
    That was the most painful incident that happened here.
    I believe that many of us have been praying for her. And I resumed this praying for her,
    The Yearning heart of Jesus, to put His arms around her, and sooth her aching ❤️.

    ( On a sidenote, I do not remember anybody here criticising the gay out coming. I only remember that I thought she was a troll
    . But Mart came in and said: “she is my daughter alright. If you do not mind I will retreat now and settle some family matters”. And after that he did not come here so much anymore).

    But… I was thinking, are we christians or not? Are we praying intercessory prayer or not?
    The sash of myrrh!
    And praying for reconciliation in her family!
    May God’s blessing be over them, without fail, always and forever.

  25. foreverblessed says:

    Who I miss is Bob in Cornwall, it is still very precious to me that he shared his walk with Jesus.
    To have a look inside the heart of someone who struggled with things that I am not familiar with. Like Isaiah said
    We are like sheep, each has gone astray in his own way.

    But that the Holy Spirit was guiding him in his peculiar way.
    That also shows to me that God wanted to lead us through the Spirit, have a direct personal contact with us, not by a set of rules on paper.

    Each one in his/her unique way. What He says to me, may not apply to you. It is the way for me.

    But to rest in Christ!
    That “action” is through the Spirit, and I am not even aware of how He “works” through me.

  26. jeff1 says:

    Why Me Lord
    Johnny Cash

    Why me Lord?
    What have I ever done?
    To deserve even one
    Of the blessings I’ve known

    Why me Lord?
    What did I ever do?
    That was worth love from You
    And the kindness You’ve shown

    Lord help me, Jesus
    I’ve wasted it
    So help me Jesus
    I know what I am

    Now that I know
    That I’ve needed You
    So help me Jesus
    My soul’s in Your hand

    Try me Lord
    If You think there’s a way
    That I can repay
    What I’ve taken from You

    Maybe Lord
    I could show someone else
    What I’ve been through myself
    On my way back to You

    Lord help me, Jesus
    I’ve wasted it
    So help me Jesus
    I know what I am

    Now that I know
    That I’ve needed You
    So help me Jesus
    My soul’s in Your hand
    Jesus, my soul’s in Your hand

  27. SFDBWV says:

    Matt’s had his breakfast, I am settling in for a little while with coffee and music at the computer and as you can see actively commenting on BTA.

    Several years ago Mart put up a subject asking if we thought there was a difference between the words and teaching from Jesus and the words and teaching from Paul.

    Jesus’ message lacked the detail of obeying specific “laws”, whereas Paul spelled out “laws” a Christian are to adhere to.

    It is and was a good question and places we Christians in a position of actually believing if there is a difference between the two.

    In this particular subject Mart has only ask about a silent movie about Jesus and or the words from Him.

    What do you think the message would look like without Paul’s input?

    For the most part the message of the OT is about the need for a Savior. A Savior to save we sinners from God’s wrath, His judgement and eternal separation from Him.

    All because of sin.

    What then is the message only from Jesus in words and deeds? Without seeing, reading or hearing of Paul’s “laws”?

    Steve

  28. bubbles says:

    Good morning and a hug and love to all here today. Be safe and take care today.

  29. bubbles says:

    Mart’s words made a connection in my thoughts to a show that can be streamed through a free app or on YouTube. It’s called The Chosen. I hope it is all right to share this here. It’s really good because you can see a lot of what Mart has written about. Words and actions. There are 8 episodes. I am cautious of telling about something because what if it’s not right, and I do not want to share something not right, but it’s very good. I have ugly cried watching this. Very touching. It is interesting seeing people act out parts from the Bible we know well.

  30. jeff1 says:

    Come sleep with hungry lions!
    Come join a floating zoo!
    We find such great adventures here
    And all completely true!

    Refrain
    Matthew, Mark, Zechariah,
    Luke and John, Obadiah,
    James and Job and Jeremiah‒
    We love Your Word, O Lord!

    We cry as Jesus suffers.
    We sail the world with Paul.
    We learn to trust our Mighty God
    With problems nine feet tall!

    We face a fiery furnace
    Yet follow God’s command.
    With Him we meet the deep blue sea
    And cross it on dry land.

    Come stroll the lovely garden
    Where life and sin began.
    Come stand before the throne of God
    And praise the great I AM!

  31. poohpity says:

    John writes, “Now Thomas (also known as Didymus), one of the Twelve, was not with the disciples when Jesus came. 25 So the other disciples told him, “We have seen the Lord!”

    But he said to them, “Unless I see the nail marks in his hands and put my finger where the nails were, and put my hand into his side, I will not believe.”

    26 A week later his disciples were in the house again, and Thomas was with them. Though the doors were locked, Jesus came and stood among them and said, “Peace be with you!” 27 Then he said to Thomas, “Put your finger here; see my hands. Reach out your hand and put it into my side. Stop doubting and believe.”

    28 Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!”

    29 Then Jesus told him, “Because you have seen me, you have believed; blessed are those who have not seen and yet have believed.”

    Paul writes, “for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” 14 How then can they call on the One in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? 15 And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”

  32. poohpity says:

    Jesus several times explained that the self righteous will not see the kingdom of God but those who admit to their own sin will.

  33. poohpity says:

    ODB today speaks about God’s word going out and what it can accomplish while we are living out His word.

  34. poohpity says:

    Just a reminder that Mart is still very active in other parts of the ODB ministry. He still writes for ODB and speaks almost every week day on DTW. This is the only place where he appears less frequently if anyone is paying attention and wants to blame anything other than what happens here as to why he just pokes his head in every now and again. Actions do speak louder than words.

  35. poohpity says:

    Isaiah 55: As the rain and the snow

    come down from heaven,

    and do not return to it

    without watering the earth

    and making it bud and flourish,

    so that it yields seed for the sower and bread for the eater,

    11 so is my word that goes out from my mouth:

    It will not return to me empty,

    but will accomplish what I desire

    and achieve the purpose for which I sent it.

    12 You will go out in joy

    and be led forth in peace;

    the mountains and hills

    will burst into song before you,

    and all the trees of the field

    will clap their hands.

    13 Instead of the thornbush will grow the juniper,

    and instead of briers the myrtle will grow.

    This will be for the Lord’s renown,

    for an everlasting sign,

    that will endure forever.”

  36. SFDBWV says:

    If you have seen any “silent films” you recognize the fact that the actor and actresses have to put out extra effort in their expressions and actions.

    Some of which is certainly the finest acting anywhere ever.

    In the beginning of silent movies though the music for the scenes was played on a piano by someone in the theater. It wasn’t much.

    In Mart’s “what if” I would suppose the finest artists would dub in the appropriate music to fit the mood.

    The silent life of Jesus…His birth would have to include the characters and events that led up to that evening in the manger. His escape to Egypt and life in Galilee Nazareth. The events with His cousin John the Baptist, the temptation in the wilderness, His ministry, death and resurrection.

    Even silently His life is mingled with the lives of others.

    “Even these rocks would cry out”

    Perhaps just as the morning stars sang together at the creation, there has to be a combination of action, words and transcript/explanation in order to make it complete.

    Steve

  37. jeff1 says:

    The truth of God is greater far
    Than our poor human mind,
    Than any doctrine, creed, or sect,
    All partial and confined.
    His treasures hold uncounted wealth
    That hearts have never heard.
    Our boundless God has yet more light
    To shine out from His Word.

    Who dares to limit God Himself
    To what we understand,
    To shrink His sprawling mystery
    And hold it in our hand?
    Immensity of purest love!
    An ocean unexplored!
    Our boundless God has yet more light
    To shine out from His Word.

    O Lord, Your Word is Jesus Christ,
    Your truth in us begun,
    But O the depths of all He is
    And all that He has done!
    Let faith and love each day increase
    The hunger You have stirred:
    May more and more of Christ our Light
    Shine brightly from Your Word!

  38. street says:

    What do you think the message would look like without Paul’s input?

    thinking what did paul look like apart from the Holy Spirit? before the damascus road.

    thinking of the difference between paul and Jesus.

    Think what faith in Jesus Christ claims and provides— He can present us faultless before the throne of God, inexpressibly pure, absolutely righteous, and profoundly justified. Stand in absolute adoring faith “in Christ Jesus, who became for us wisdom from God— and righteousness and sanctification and redemption…” (1 Corinthians 1:30). by oswald chambers 11/13/20

  39. street says:

    steve when i read your post it reminded me how i would work one parent against another to get my way. how we are easily divided. i have the same struggle or difficulty of understand God as One in Three Persons. i think the division is inherent in the flesh , but not so in God. like when abraham got up that morning and went on a three day journey with isaac. there was no division in abraham. Jesus agony in gethsemane and the cross was a greater test of faithfulness. in this test, a debt is payed, now peace with God. grace and mercy without end. a sure hope. praying your love is God’s strength.

    the great joy of Christ is to be conformed to His Image. Emmanuel

  40. Beloved says:

    Isaiah55 is a great encouragement for days when I feel like my faith is stagnant. Thank you for sharing it! A reminder it’s all about Him, not me.

  41. street says:

    what would it be like, The Word of God in human? Spirit and Truth abiding in abonance?

  42. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks to Bubbles we have looked for “the Chosen”
    On Netflix, we saw the first four episodes, and I was thinking, what shall I tell Bubbles, it is so violent. The first episode starts with the crucifixion of Jesus, and the denial of Peter, the burial, and the time of waiting, the three days.
    But then the story focusses on Pilate who becomes so harsh, and full of hatred, in a story of someone who wanted to kill him, and Pilates wants to find the killer, not a story in the bible.
    Why so much violence, why not focussing on the life of the disciples?

    Anyway, I looked it up, and found out that there is another, the chosen, that you can get by an app. As Bubbles said.
    So there are two series with the same name?

    But films with words and with action!
    Both of them
    It’s hard to separate words from action.

  43. foreverblessed says:

    We were looking for the chosen on netflix, I thought we were looking at it, but we looked at: AD the bible continues. A series from 2015
    Sorry, for the confusion.
    What a films about Jesus.
    While searching, I read on CT, there is another tv series: Jesus, His Life
    has appeared last year.
    Have a good night.
    God bless you during the night!

  44. Beloved says:

    You know, I think it’s so good to go back to the beginnings of our faith sometimes and just enjoy Jesus the way we first did. I’m listening to hymns from my early days when I was just a new-born and remembering His promises and reflecting on Gods faithfulness all these years later.

    I first heard George Beverly Shea sing this with Billy Graham in 1980

    I’d rather have Jesus than silver or gold;
    I’d rather be His than have riches untold;
    I’d rather have Jesus than houses or lands;
    I’d rather be led by His nail-pierced hand
    Refrain:
    Than to be the king of a vast domain
    Or be held in sin’s dread sway;
    I’d rather have Jesus than anything
    This world affords today.
    I’d rather have Jesus than men’s applause;
    I’d rather be faithful to His dear cause;
    I’d rather have Jesus than worldwide fame;
    I’d rather be true to His holy name
    He’s fairer than lilies of rarest bloom;
    He’s sweeter than honey from out the comb;
    He’s all that my hungering spirit needs;
    I’d rather have Jesus and let Him lead

  45. plumbape says:

    I don’t come here nearly as I did. I been around BTA Since I read it in the mail paper version decades ago. A lot of older folks on here have. Certainly not one to judge! I agree with a lot here and smile at friends I see here from old Steve and Deb or poohpity, to foreverblessed. and a number of other ones I have known here. That have been close friend yet often disagree, I learn a great deal from it but never enjoyed the none God like personal arguement version. Please excuse any misspelled words.

    A littlepersonal bio: I’m Mike Holt from race city world known favorite Indy 500 race. Have tryed the whole race fan but only been there once close friend bought 2 tickets. It was hot Memorial Day when they race every. (not this yesr it didn’t race). I’m a plumber and a ape from Indy. People can leave the screen name or ape or Mike. I’m humble 64 yrs young. Main care giver for Sharon my only wife that had a stroke over 7 yrs ago.She’s a sleep in her hospital bed now. I got up at 2AM lol. I don’t sleep well only we are blessed to have a side of a nice duplex in a bad zip code but not on this street. It dead in to a highway way on a hill. So now drive bys here!! Great. God is good ALL the time. Amen!

    Talk later
    The ape from Iny see ya

  46. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Mike. Bless you Mike for caring for you wife as you do. Many people have often said to me they don’t know how I do it, taking care of my son Matthew.

    My answer is always the same, love will enable you do the things that need done and it is never a burden, always an act of love.

    I am sorry your wife suffers and I know the pain you suffer as a result.

    May God bless you and empower you and fill you and your wife with His Holy Spirit and carry you both through these difficult times.

    Steve

  47. jeff1 says:

    foreverblessed says:
    November 13, 2020 at 4:49 pm

    Forever, when you mentioned how the programme you watched focused on the violence of the story rather than the characters I thought it is what is sought on our screens today.

    I cannot watch the films my sons watch and often they will say to me mum this isn’t for your eyes as they know how squeamish I am.

    As they see it to tell the whole truth means to show the violence of the time and we cannot relive the stories in the Bible without the reality of the violence suffered by Christ and His followers.

    I seen enough violence and hatred in my early years on the streets here to do me a lifetime and sadly when I turn on the news I am still seeing it in other parts of the world today so it seems to me it is very much a part of life.

    Whether I want to watch it on screen or not does not change the fact that Christ and His followers suffered unbelievable brutality and the mentality of those who inflicted it hasn’t gone away as the television/film crews show us the reality of our world.

    It makes us wonder today why God allowed His Son to suffer on the Cross for humanity and yet as a believer I am on my knees to day thanking God He did and praying for those who still fail to see that God knew what He was doing and the neediness in our world today is evidence enough for me that God got it right and though I much prefer not to watch the violence of Christ’s time on earth I believe I should not forget the suffering as it is a reminder to me of what my Salvation cost God and so perhaps that screening today will bring it home to many who do not know or need to be reminded of that cost.

  48. poohpity says:

    Amen Viv! Reminds me of what was said on DTW yesterday, “The first step in solving any problem is admitting there is one then recognition that I am part of the problem is the best way to initiate change.”

    Was thinking about what Mart wrote, “Seems like it’s the action part that made it hard for those who wanted ‘their own’ followers to believe Jesus was a deceiver.” People can make up their own perspective seeing the action while not having the words from the source that explains them. Then again Jesus taught by his word more so than from his actions although He told the disciples of John the Baptist to share ALL that they SAW and Heard.

    Then God left us with the Holy Spirit to remind us of all that Jesus taught(John 14:26 NLT). It seems that He is who makes the words of Jesus come to life and create in us actions we live by in doing good deeds and by thinking of others before ourselves. Or loving others the way Jesus loved us that is the actions we are to follow in showing love.

    Yes anyone can do actions but Jesus taught it was the motives behind those actions as He often called attention to what those around Him were thinking from the recesses of their heart.

    BTW Ape glad you did not give up on us and came back. Yes disagreements are not pleasant at all especially when being accused of thinking things that are not true or lying about things that did happen by explaining with the spin of the person telling the story devoid of actual facts.

  49. poohpity says:

    Deception can be easy when all we see are actions but just hearing words alone can also be deceptive. BUT it seems when one has both the words and seeing the actions in unity deception is not easy to do.

  50. bubbles says:

    The one I watched is not violent at all and I’m sorry. The App is free or you can get it off YouTube for free now also. There’s not violent. The first episode is a little different until you figure out what is going on and then it falls into place. Episode 1 is not my favorite.

  51. SFDBWV says:

    Matthew and I both like to watch “Last Man Standing” with Tim Allen. Like Tim’s other hit show “Home Improvement” Tim’s character is always a character of, shall we say, questionable character.

    In one particular episode Tim says to another character, “I am not a music critic, but I do like to criticize others.”

    Even still it makes me laugh, because we all fall into that place of being critical of things around us especially other people.

    With regards to silent as well as “talkie” films there has been many movies about the life and events of Jesus of Nazareth, even one titled as such.

    And each one came with biting criticisms, each one.

    Who the critics? Those among us who consider themselves expert in all areas of Scripture who spoil the enjoyment of just seeing the movie.

    Movies aren’t Scripture, they are the interpretation of Scripture stories as seen through the eyes of a director and those who are expert at making movies.

    The eyes of a critic though see only through their very narrow view with no space for tolerance, only satisfied with their own “view”.

    Sadly critics are never silent. In fact their criticisms are usually given in a loud and fevered pitch.

    Just my mid-morning thoughts on our subject at 42 degrees f and a clear blue sky.

    Steve

  52. Beloved says:

    Bubbles would you mind giving a little more info about the chosen like who produced it or actors. I tried finding it but could only find the violent ones myself. Thank you-

  53. Beloved says:

    I think I found it- produced by Vidangel. At App Store on my phone.

  54. poohpity says:

    Yes critics are never silent and some get paid very well when they preview movies, music, houses and many other things. Go figure getting paid to see the flaws. I remember seeing those little papers in packaged things saying they have been inspected by and a number.

    Personal criticism like name calling or assuming what another is thinking or feeling, now those can be very harmful. Or criticizing how someone looks or their size or their color more harmful things.

    But correction is a whole different thing can you imagine this world without correction that would lead to chaos and ignorance.

  55. jeff1 says:

    When my children were teenagers they suggested to me that I was too critical of them i.e. much quicker to point out their bad points then their good.

    I had not thought about it before that but I had critical teachers and my mum would be very negative about my efforts to help her and would say I will do the thing myself and it will be done right.

    I realised that give me low self esteem and so my sons were right I was now practising what I learned.

    I would agree personal criticism is harmful especially as a child as it hinders development and I am glad my sons corrected me so that I didn’t continue to hinder them.

    Correction is so much more constructive if given with good intentions.

  56. bubbles says:

    Joyce was correct; Dallas Jenkins

  57. street says:

    I’ve been wondering what it would be like to have nothing more than a silent film of the life of Jesus. No words. Just action and music.

    Or what would it be like to know him as a teacher, philosopher or story teller—with no record of what he did—just a transcript of what he said. Just words.

    thinking of James here. he has been mentioned several times on this blog.

    teacher philosopher story teller….?

    Jesus never shied away from being called a teacher. i have heard Him called a Master Story Teller. philosopher or Truth ?

    Some how i understand Jesus is GOD. much more different than the previous descriptions.

    the word interpretation comes to mind.

    i like the idea He knows our thoughts.

    thinking of paul, ” Lord you know all things. You know that i Love you.”

    thinking of a human tell God how things should go.

    the joy of the Lord is your strength.

    saw ODB video on multi-tasking.

    let the light shine out of darkness.

    can light be hidden? only to the blind.

  58. poohpity says:

    street, I think it was Peter who said those things but I could be wrong(John 21:17). Does it really make a difference which one said it? I think it does because if we want to believed and counted on in the things we say to be true then it would matter, right?
    ******

    Does faith count on the things seen or does it count on the unseen yet believe?

    As far as made for viewing like movies either silent or talkies if it comes from a human being that is not trying to be totally truthful but adding their own imagination can we count on them for revealing the truth in their shows? The stories from the bible are magnificent enough and awe inspiring that they really do not need to be embellished, right? But it seems people still need to put their spin on the truth to try to make it more exciting when there is no need so that brings us back to trust, do you trust what people say or do you realize that they also are being deceptive because they themselves have been deceived.

  59. poohpity says:

    I was thinking about our times today from the media if one listens to the same type of media that all have the same talking points with no variations then one can count on it to be a lie because not everyone has the same view unless they have practiced what it is together off of the same script and if they say it enough then people become brainwashed into believing it is true.

  60. poohpity says:

    Don’t peoples words and actions have to be congruent to be believed otherwise they would just be self motivated hypocrites? Jesus spent a lot of time holding those who thought themselves religious and representatives of God accountable that in fact they were not because their words and actions were so far apart but they wanted to hold others to such high standards that they themselves were unable to follow. I think that is why centuries later that the religious leaders did not want the common man to have scripture to read for themselves so they could oppress the masses and the people would be unaware of how deceptive they really are.

  61. jeff1 says:

    Am I not a human being too as how do we end up with so many different interpretations of the Bible today other than spiritually we are on different levels.

    No movie maker or earth needs to embellish the suffering of Christ on the Cross nor does it take much imagination for me to know that I would not have the courage of Christ and His followers as I have known more blessings than suffering for Him and indeed I have seen more suffering with evil intent than I have others suffering for the Gospel though I know there are many who do suffer greatly in other lands were persecution still exists against those who proclaim it.

    I have no idea of what suffering still exists in the world to proclaim the Gospel other than I hear from media coverage and what other motive would they have than to show the world the suffering of being a Christ follower in less civilised regions of the world.

    I have no idea of what it is to be persecuted for my faith as I have always had the freedom to practise it living in a democracy as I do.

  62. street says:

    street, I think it was Peter who said those things but I could be wrong(John 21:17 [Open in Logos Bible Software (if available)] ). Does it really make a difference which one said it? I think it does because if we want to believed and counted on in the things we say to be true then it would matter, right?

    so your saying paul did not love Jesus?
    it seems to me paul lived it out in the body.

    a faith he could not deny. to be owned by One Who loves us more than we can comprehend.

    thinking of John 9 where a there is a man and no sin to speak of. yet sin manifest it’s self in the interpretation of what happen.

    it matters as to Who is speaking. voice recognition is paramount. a matter of life and death.

  63. street says:

    thinking of Hosea 7:8
    Ephraim, he hath mixed himself among the people; Ephraim is a cake not turned.

    Genesis 41:52
    And the name of the second called he Ephraim: For God hath caused me to be fruitful in the land of my affliction.

    51 Joseph named the firstborn [aq]Manasseh; “For,” he said, “God has made me forget all my trouble and all of my father’s household.”

    sounds like a new life…..

  64. street says:

    Silent Films, Transcripts, and Talkies

    thinking of the scribes and the pharisees/sadducee. adding to the truth or taking away from it leave one in darkness.

    Matthew 16:6
    And Jesus said to them, “Watch out and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and Sadducees.”

    Matthew 22:34
    But when the Pharisees heard that Jesus had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together.

    Psalm 31:13
    For I have heard the slander of many, Terror is on every side; While they took counsel together against me, They schemed to take away my life.

    to be still and know God. to know God and understand Him.

    Jesus said, Come to Me.”

  65. street says:

    PSALM 78:1–39

    A maskil[a] of Asaph.
    1 My people, hear my teaching;
    listen to the words of my mouth.
    2 I will open my mouth with a parable;
    I will utter hidden things, things from of old—
    3 things we have heard and known,
    things our ancestors have told us.
    4 We will not hide them from their descendants;
    we will tell the next generation
    the praiseworthy deeds of the Lord,
    his power, and the wonders he has done.
    5 He decreed statutes for Jacob
    and established the law in Israel,
    which he commanded our ancestors
    to teach their children,
    6 so the next generation would know them,
    even the children yet to be born,
    and they in turn would tell their children.
    7 Then they would put their trust in God
    and would not forget his deeds
    but would keep his commands.
    8 They would not be like their ancestors—
    a stubborn and rebellious generation,
    whose hearts were not loyal to God,
    whose spirits were not faithful to him.

    9 The men of Ephraim, though armed with bows,
    turned back on the day of battle;
    10 they did not keep God’s covenant
    and refused to live by his law.
    11 They forgot what he had done,
    the wonders he had shown them.
    12 He did miracles in the sight of their ancestors
    in the land of Egypt, in the region of Zoan.
    13 He divided the sea and led them through;
    he made the water stand up like a wall.
    14 He guided them with the cloud by day
    and with light from the fire all night.
    15 He split the rocks in the wilderness
    and gave them water as abundant as the seas;
    16 he brought streams out of a rocky crag
    and made water flow down like rivers.

    17 But they continued to sin against him,
    rebelling in the wilderness against the Most High.
    18 They willfully put God to the test
    by demanding the food they craved.
    19 They spoke against God;
    they said, “Can God really
    spread a table in the wilderness?
    20 True, he struck the rock,
    and water gushed out,
    streams flowed abundantly,
    but can he also give us bread?
    Can he supply meat for his people?”
    21 When the Lord heard them, he was furious;
    his fire broke out against Jacob,
    and his wrath rose against Israel,
    22 for they did not believe in God
    or trust in his deliverance.
    23 Yet he gave a command to the skies above
    and opened the doors of the heavens;
    24 he rained down manna for the people to eat,
    he gave them the grain of heaven.
    25 Human beings ate the bread of angels;
    he sent them all the food they could eat.
    26 He let loose the east wind from the heavens
    and by his power made the south wind blow.
    27 He rained meat down on them like dust,
    birds like sand on the seashore.
    28 He made them come down inside their camp,
    all around their tents.
    29 They ate till they were gorged—
    he had given them what they craved.
    30 But before they turned from what they craved,
    even while the food was still in their mouths,
    31 God’s anger rose against them;
    he put to death the sturdiest among them,
    cutting down the young men of Israel.

    32 In spite of all this, they kept on sinning;
    in spite of his wonders, they did not believe.
    33 So he ended their days in futility
    and their years in terror.
    34 Whenever God slew them, they would seek him;
    they eagerly turned to him again.
    35 They remembered that God was their Rock,
    that God Most High was their Redeemer.
    36 But then they would flatter him with their mouths,
    lying to him with their tongues;
    37 their hearts were not loyal to him,
    they were not faithful to his covenant.
    38 Yet he was merciful;
    he forgave their iniquities
    and did not destroy them.
    Time after time he restrained his anger
    and did not stir up his full wrath.
    39 He remembered that they were but flesh,
    a passing breeze that does not return.

    our transcript ? or Our God?

  66. street says:

    thinking of mart and his daughter and the the son who wished for his inheritance early.

    the wish was granted.

    all of us like sheep have gone astray….

    thank God for a Good Shepard!!!

    One Of Us. baaaaaah

    not by power not by might, but by My Spirit says the LORD.

  67. Beloved says:

    If you want to know God better Psalm78 is a wonderful description. Faithfulness in unfaithfulness. What a great God we serve! Loving all knowing forgiving compassionate and merciful- to all generations. It would make a good movie- even a silent movie. (Although I’d really like to see how a silent film would portray God)

  68. street says:

    Brothers and sisters, it’s OK to have an unarticulated thought. It’s OK to go about our lives in quiet worship and obedience. It’s OK to do your homework, read your Bible, raise your kids, and make your private thoughts prayers instead of posts. Alison Krauss was right: sometimes you say it best when you say nothing at all. Kevin DeYoung face book post

    Proverbs 27:5
    Better is open rebuke Than love that is concealed.

  69. Beloved says:

    I’ve been thinking about criticism but not sure how to put into words until I read Proverbs 27:5,
    Better is open rebuke Than love that is concealed

    Can one be loving AND critical at the same time? Rebuke for correction of wrong behavior is what God does and tells the Godly to do. Western culture says the individual is most important therefore if someone -who claims to be a Christian- does not want to hear rebuke they have every “right” as the highly exalted individual they are to ignore it. It was national rebellion against God that tempted Gods wrath, yet in mercy He withheld it. Do we tempt God by ignoring Godly criticism just because we don’t like people telling us what to do or think? Or should we ask God first, LORD, is this true of me and a behavior that needs changing to become more like you? God is love, John said. Do we really believe that? He sent His only begotten Son into the world to save us from our sin. Do we honor Him or despise Him?

  70. street says:

    15 Moses spoke to the Lord, saying, 16 “Let the Lord, the God of the spirits of all flesh, appoint a man over the congregation 17 who shall go out before them and come in before them, who shall lead them out and bring them in, that the congregation of the Lord may not be as sheep that have no shepherd.”

  71. street says:

    13 And Moses cried to the Lord, “O God, please heal her—please.” 14 But the Lord said to Moses, “If her father had but spit in her face, should she not be shamed seven days? Let her be shut outside the camp seven days, and after that she may be brought in again.” 15 So Miriam was shut outside the camp seven days, and the people did not set out on the march till Miriam was brought in again.

  72. street says:

    34
    When he killed them, they sought him;
    they repented and sought God earnestly.

    what would it take for us to follow Him earnestly?

  73. street says:

    thinking about how love covers/conceals a transgression.

    Exodus 34:7
    keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the children’s children to the third and the fourth generation.”

    Proverbs 17:9
    He who covers a transgression seeks love, But he who repeats a matter separates friends.

    Proverbs 17:19
    He who loves transgression loves strife, And he who exalts his gate seeks destruction.

    Proverbs 19:11
    The discretion of a man makes him slow to anger, And his glory is to overlook a transgression.

  74. Beloved says:

    Romans 14 (for believers)

    19 Let us therefore make every effort to do what leads to peace and to mutual edification.20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a person to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother or sister to fall.

    22 So whatever you believe about these things keep between yourself and God. Blessed is the one who does not condemn himself by what he approves. 23 But whoever has doubts is condemned if they eat, because their eating is not from faith; and everything that does not come from faith is sin.

  75. jeff1 says:

    Need has called us back to You,
    Back to what is always true.
    All we have is only due
    To Your goodness and Your mercy.

    Need has crushed our hearts again,
    Pain we cannot comprehend.
    All our proud delusions end,
    Loving Father, in Your mercy!

    Blind with grief, we ask You why
    Till we see You lifted high,
    Groaning, giving as You die.
    We are silent. Christ, have mercy!

    Need has blessed us once again,
    Love we cannot comprehend.
    Savior, Sovereign, Father, Friend,
    We are resting in Your mercy.

  76. Beloved says:

    Bible gateway

    Verse of the Day
    Psalm 119:143
    Trouble and anguish have found me out, but your commandments are my delight.

  77. foreverblessed says:

    Need has called us back to You
    That song is awesome!
    And if that is how we can view our troubles, our pain, that the effect is that they draw us closer to God!
    That gives deeper meaning to that Psalm 119:143

    And about Psalm 78
    O dear, that story of humans who forget God, christian countries who forsake God when things were going well.
    I am reading about Bonifatius, and the christianization of our country from 630 plus onwards. And how that story is so similar to the Israelites.

    Judges 8:33
    No sooner had Gideon died than the Israelites again prostituted themselves to Baals.

    Sometimes strange things happen, people believe strange stories.
    But then the story of the sons of Gideon gave light to what happens:

    Judges 9:22-24
    After Abimelech had governed Israel for three years, God sent an evil spirit between Abimelech and the citizens of Shechem, who acted treacherously against Abimelech.
    God did this in order that the crime

  78. foreverblessed says:

    the crime against Jerub-Baal (Gideon) seventy sons, the shedding of their blood.

    The youngest son of Gideon escaped that massacre, and came up with an oracle against Abimelech
    Judges 9:5-21

    What a story!
    It ended like this:
    The citizens of Shechem set up against Abimelech, and Abimelech send an army against them, and burned the city down, about a thousand died in the fire. But Abimelech himself was hit by a millstone thrown from another tower he besieged, thrown by a woman, and he did not want to die by the hand of a woman, for the shame of it ( o dear, what a world) and asked his armour bearer to kill him.
    Judges 9:55-57
    When the Israelites saw that Abimelech was dead, they went home.
    Thus God repaid the wickedness that Abimelech had done to his father by murdering his seventy brothers. God also made the men of Shechem pay for all their wickedness. The curse of Jotham son of Jerub-Baal (Gideon) came on them.

    The curse of the thorn-bush that would reign over them and would burn them if the did not want him as King anymore.

    So Botham warned them.
    Warning…
    God always did send prophets to warm the Israelites, He never did anything without warning.
    There is criticism and their is warning..

    May God opennour eyes to that.

  79. foreverblessed says:

    Jotham, nog Botham.

    But that sending of an evil spirit, that made me think:
    That normal reasoning seems to be far away, these days. F.i. People saying that the virus is not real, even while being sick because of it, still denying, and getting angry.

    We can only pray that people will return to God, and hume ourselves before Him.
    He alone has everything in His Hands, He has covered for all sins in the Cross of Jesus, and He lives on through His Spirit in the ones that believe in Him.
    A witness of His existence

    Sometimes with words, but always in intercessory prayer.

  80. Beloved says:

    And seems like it’s the timeless relevance of his words— together with the compassionate things he did— that give us reason to want to be counted among the friends and citizens of his kingdom, so many years later.

    Isaiah42:1-7

  81. bratimus says:

    What I was going to mention I see forever touched on it.

    I was going to say don’t mistake warnings and rebukes from God, as criticism.

    I see the Covid-19 and other sorrows God is allowing to show man that when it comes down to it it, man does not control much, man has a hard time controlling one self without God. Sometimes God lets things happen to draw us closer to Him.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  82. street says:

    Silent Films, Transcripts, and Talkies

    lights camera action.

    thinking about the action part. works? yes action!
    wishing for a spirit soul and body that works/acts correctly. should i rather be asking for a spirit soul and body at rest? thinking about the acts of Jesus. what was His motive? it was hidden to the world. foreign.

    The Good Shepard, a man, following the Will of His Father.

    John 17:19
    And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, so that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth.

    John 17:17
    Sanctify them in the truth; Your word is truth.

    thinking about the camera.

    Matthew 6:2-4
    2 “So when you [a]give to the poor, do not sound a trumpet before you, as the hypocrites do in the synagogues and on the streets, so that they will be praised by people. Truly I say to you, they have their reward in full. 3 But when you [b]give to the poor, do not let your left hand know what your right hand is doing, 4 so that your charitable giving will be in secret; and your Father who sees what is done in secret will reward you.

    thinking when God, love, is working we are not aware of it. thinking of the 12. love suffers much.

    4 Love is patient, love is kind, it is not jealous; love does not brag, it is not arrogant. 5 It does not act disgracefully, it does not seek its own benefit; it is not provoked, does not keep an account of a wrong suffered, 6 it does not rejoice in unrighteousness, but rejoices with the truth; 7 it [b]keeps every confidence, it believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things.

    love suffers much. it’s from God.

    light

    no light, no love, God is light and there is no darkness in Him. to have light formed in me, conformed to His image.

    11 He came to His [a]own, and His own people did not [b]accept Him. 12 But [c]as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who [d]believe in His name, 13 who were [e]born, not of [f]blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a man, but of God.

  83. street says:

    7 All the people saw this and began to mutter, “He has gone to be the guest of a sinner.”

  84. street says:

    In the Scriptures, the great miracle of the incarnation slips into the ordinary life of a child; the great miracle of the transfiguration fades into the demon-possessed valley below; the glory of the resurrection descends into a breakfast on the seashore. This is not an anticlimax, but a great revelation of God. oswald chambers

  85. Beloved says:

    Mark 3:20-21
    New International Version
    Jesus Accused by His Family and by Teachers of the Law
    20 Then Jesus entered a house, and again a crowd gathered, so that he and his disciples were not even able to eat.21 When his family heard about this, they went to take charge of him, for they said, “He is out of his mind.”

  86. foreverblessed says:

    Words .. action
    I thought Mart brought this up, as a means to meditate on Jesus.

    Good word of Oswald, today’s Utmost, about obedience.

    Citing:
    “..The promises of God are of no value to us until, through obedience, we come to understand the nature of God. We may read some things in the Bible every day for a year and they may mean nothing to us. Then, because we have been obedient to God in some small detail, we suddenly see what God means and His nature is instantly opened up to us. “All the promises of God in Him are Yes, and in Him Amen…” (2 Corinthians 1:20). Our “Yes” must be born of obedience; when by obedience we ratify a promise of God by saying, “Amen,” or, “So be it.” That promise becomes ours.

    I especially was touched by this:
    …we can read the bible, every day for a year, and it means nothing to us if we do not do what it says.

    The first command Jesus gave, that is on the sense of what is of importance to us, is:

    “Come to Me”

    What if I obeyed that command, every day minute by minute, going to Jesus with everything, and laying it at His feet. What a differy it could make in my life.
    Coming to Jesus, pouring out my heart with Him only
    ( Putting it in prayers not in posts, that was really good)
    And then asking for all the treasures from heaven:
    Love peace joy, wisdom

    The Cross is the big exchange.
    We give our dirt to Jesus, and we receive gold from Him.

  87. foreverblessed says:

    The family of Jesus came to take charge of Him.
    To make sure that Jesus eats on time, rests on time…
    And now Jesus is doing that for us.

    The words of Jesus are sometimes incomprehensible:

    John 17:19
    And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, so that they themselves also may be sanctified in truth.

    Jesus was God and full of grace and truth, and yet He sanctifies Himself for our sales.

  88. jeff1 says:

    To follow in Christ’s footsteps has always been to accept persecution but there are varying degrees of what that looks like.

    What do I know of persecution today and speaking personally I know very little as I have always had the freedom to speak and act out my faith.

    The most I have suffered is a sneer or a remark that I must be mad for believing what another considers to be unbelievable.

    That is nothing compared to those followers who are in far away lands suffering God knows what for Christ.

    That is why I call myself a believer and not a follower as it is much easier for me to suffer words of mockery than it is for those called to more physical roles for Christ.

    My belief is that any suffering today for Christ is unprecedented with the suffering of His early followers and that is due to the fact that we do live in a more civilized world where we are more accepting of each others differences whatever our culture, religion, colour of skin or beliefs.

    In discussion with my Rector I have spoken of how I have no problem with those Roman Catholics who choose to be Irish and want Ireland united nor do they have a problem with me wanting to be British and remain within the UK.

    We both know that democracy will take its course and that is what the democratic process is for as majority votes wins and most law abiding citizens accept this.

    So the reality is that most law abiding people are tolerant of each others differences and it is those who want to put their will on others who act outside of it.

    I can only hope that counts to me being a citizen of God’s Kingdom because as I see it I am not trying to force my will on anyone and only ask that they do not try to force theirs on me which I think is as good as it gets in this world.

    bratimus says:
    November 16, 2020 at 11:37 am in this post Bratimus speaks of :man does not control much, man has a hard time controlling one self without God.

    I think it takes an extremely wise man to see and say what you have just said.

  89. poohpity says:

    Don’t you think that the John verse 17:19 has to be left in context and if it is one will find that sanctified means set apart from the world.

    John 17 was the prayer of Jesus for us; I have given them your word, and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not ask that you take them out of the world, but that you keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 17 Sanctify them in the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, so I have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sake I consecrate myself, that they also may be sanctified in truth.

    20 “I do not ask for these only, but also for those who will believe in me through their word, 21 that they may all be one, just as you, Father, are in me, and I in you, that they also may be in us, so that the world may believe that you have sent me.
    *****

    Jesus did not have to do anything to be set apart for us just who He was alone consecrated and sanctified Him for He was the truth and the word.

  90. poohpity says:

    So many of the words of Jesus are incomprehensible to human understanding that was the reason He went away so that we could have His spirit to lead us and guide us to understand what His truths and words are all about. We need His help to comprehend what He said and we need His help to do or take action on what He says because only then will we be one with Him and the Father. Sanctified, set apart from the world as He is.

  91. poohpity says:

    So no matter how many “Silent films, Transcripts and Talkies” we watch or read they are meaningless unless the Lord has opened our minds and hearts with understanding and He only opens eyes, ears and hearts of those who are His so that they will come to believe.

  92. foreverblessed says:

    Alexander MacLaren says about John 17:19

    “We may well despair of doing justice to the deep thoughts of this prayer, which volumes would not exhaust. Who is worthy to speak or to write about such sacred words? Perhaps we may best gain some glimpses of their great and holy sublimity by trying to gather their teaching round the centres of the three petitions, ‘glorify’ {John 17:1, John 17:5}, ‘keep’ {John 17:11}, and ‘sanctify’ {John 17:17}.”

    The High Priestly prayer is so impressive, such high and spiritual words.
    Thankfully Jesus went to the Father so the Spirit could be sent, that teaches us, when we are like children, humble.

    But the sanctification of Jesus,
    Is not meaning: made holy, for He already was holy.
    For Jesus it meant: set apart as Pooh wrote.
    It is like the offerings in the OT, that were to be blameless and without fault. Jesus gave Himself as that pure and holy offer. He presented Himself as that holy and unblemished sacrice, on the altar, that is the Cross.
    For our sakes He did it.

    So that we could be sanctified, and that means : made holy, because we are not holy, we all were in a fallen state.
    But through the Cross, His broken body and His shed blood we are cleansed, made whole, healed,

  93. street says:

    Jesus did not have to do anything to be set apart for us just who He was alone consecrated and sanctified Him for He was the truth and the word.

    4 Jesus answered and said to them, “Go and report to John what you hear and see: 5 those who are blind receive sight and those who limp walk, those with leprosy are cleansed and those who are deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the poor have the [d]gospel preached to them. 6 And blessed is [e]any person who does not [f]take offense at Me.”

    23 Now while he was in Jerusalem at the Passover Festival, many people saw the signs he was performing and believed in his name.[a]

    21 For just as the Father raises the dead and gives them life, even so the Son gives life to whom he is pleased to give it. 22 Moreover, the Father judges no one, but has entrusted all judgment to the Son, 23 that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him.

  94. street says:

    26 “He replied, ‘I tell you that to everyone who has, more will be given, but as for the one who has nothing, even what they have will be taken away. 27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”

  95. jeff1 says:

    1(A Psalm of David.) The LORD is my shepherd; I shall not want. 2He maketh me to lie down in green pastures: he leadeth me beside the still waters. 3He restoreth my soul: he leadeth me in the paths of righteousness for his name’s sake. 4Yea, though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil: for thou art with me; thy rod and thy staff they comfort me. 5Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over. 6Surely goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life: and I will dwell in the house of the LORD for ever.

  96. Beloved says:

    27 But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them—bring them here and kill them in front of me.’”

    Jesus foretelling of the destruction of the Temple in ad 70. It’s so hard as Pooh said to understand Jesus words through human eyes. It takes the Spirit of God to reveal what God is saying. Jesus spoke in parables so some would not understand.

  97. Beloved says:

    4Jesus replied, “Go back and report to John what you hear and see: 5The blind receive sight, the lame walk, the leper’s are cleansed, the deaf hear, the dead are raised, and the good news is preached to the poor. 6Blessed is the one who does not fall away on account of Me.”

  98. Beloved says:

    Why report to John? To prove he was the messiah John had been foretelling about? Are ALL blind given sight lame healed etc? NO. But the Spirit enables the lame to walk in the Spirit and Kingdom of God while here on earth- thinking of Joni Erickson Tada.

  99. Beloved says:

    Oh, to see the story of God without words only action would lead to misunderstandings. To hear the words as we do through scripture can also lead to misunderstandings. But to see with God given sight and hear with God given ears makes all the difference. Today just as in Jesus days while on earth.

  100. Beloved says:

    Come thou fount of EVERY blessing. Open our eyes to observe your kingdom at work today in this pandemic world. Amen

  101. jeff1 says:

    In our arrogance and pride
    We come to You.
    In our weakness and our guilt
    We look to You.

    Refrain:
    O Lord, our Lord,
    Have mercy.
    O Lord, our Lord,
    Have mercy.

    In our trouble and our pain
    We come to You.
    In our darkness and our grief
    We look to You.

    Mighty God of love and power
    We come to You.
    You are here, and You are now –
    We look to You.

  102. jeff1 says:

    Though passing through this darkened world,
    We’re children of the Light.
    Though pressured and rejected here,
    We’re precious in Your sight.

    Refrain
    We walk below with hearts above,
    The captives of eternal love.
    But by Your Spirit show us how
    To love You fully here and now.

    The fruit of all Your life and love
    Will come to those who reap.
    With joy, my Lord, we gladly sow
    The lives we cannot keep.

    Through pain and sorrow, grief and death
    We more than overcome.
    We fix our eyes on Jesus Christ,
    Your risen, reigning Son!

  103. Beloved says:

    Holy- set apart to God.
    I Peter 1:16
    Contemporary English Version
    That’s why the Scriptures say, “I am the holy God, and you must be holy too.”

  104. foreverblessed says:

    The sanctification of Jesus, that He talks about on John 17:19
    is the setting apart of Himself to be the offering on the Cross.

    He decided that of His own free will, John 10:18


    I sanctify myself – I consecrate myself exclusively to the service of God. The word “sanctify” does not refer here to personal sanctification, for he had no sin, but to setting himself apart entirely to the work of redemption.” Barnes notes.

    Matthew Poole’s commentary
    EXPOSITORY (ENGLISH BIBLE)
    Ellicott’s Commentary for English Readers
    (19) And for their sakes I sanctify myself.—Comp. Note on John 17:17. The consecration here thought of is that to the work which was immediately before Him—the offering Himself as a sacrifice. The word was in frequent use in the special sense of an offering or sacrifice set apart to God. As a New Testament example of this, comp. Romans 15:16. By this consecration of Himself—which in a wider sense is for all men, but in the special sense is “for their sakes”—He will, as both Priest and Sacrifice, enter into the Holy of Holies of the heavenly temple, and will send the Holy Ghost, who will consecrate them.

    That they also might be sanctified through the truth.—Better, as in the margin, . . . . might be truly sanctified. The words “they also” are emphatic, answering to “their sakes” and “myself” in the preceding clause.

    Matthew Henry’s Concise Commentary
    17:17-19 Christ next prayed for the disciples, that they might not only be kept from evil, but made good. It is the prayer of Jesus for all that are his, that they may be made holy. Even disciples must pray for sanctifying grace. The means of giving this grace is, through thy truth, thy word is truth. Sanctify them, set them apart for thyself and thy service. Own them in the office; let thy hand go with them. Jesus entirely devoted himself to his undertaking, and all the parts of it, especially the offering up himself without spot unto God, by the eternal Spirit. The real holiness of all true Christians is the fruit of Christ’s death, by which the gift of the Holy Ghost was purchased; he gave himself for his church, to sanctify it. If our views have not this effect on us, they are not Divine truth, or we do not receive them by a living and a working faith, but as mere notions.
    Barnes’ Notes on the Bible
    I sanctify myself – I consecrate myself exclusively to the service of God. The word “sanctify” does not refer here to personal sanctification, for he had no sin, but to setting himself apart entirely to the work of redemption.

    That they also … –

    1. That they might have an example of the proper manner of laboring in the ministry, and might learn of me how to discharge its duties. Ministers will understand their work best when they most faithfully study the example of their great model, the Son of God.

    2. That they might be made pure by the effect of my sanctifying myself – that is, that they might be made pure by the shedding of that blood which cleanses from all sin. By this only can men be made holy; and it was because the Saviour so sanctified himself, or set himself to this work so unreservedly as to shed his own blood, that any soul can be made pure and fit for the kingdom of God.
    Jamieson-Fausset-Brown Bible Commentary
    19. And for their sakes I sanctify—consecrate.

    myself that they also might—may.

    be sanctified—consecrated. The only difference between the application of the same term to Christ and the disciples is, as applied to Christ, that it means only to “consecrate”; whereas, in application to the disciples, it means to consecrate with the additional idea of previous sanctification, since nothing but what is holy can be presented as an offering. The whole self-sacrificing work of the disciples appears here as a mere result of the offering of Christ [Olshausen].

    through—in.

    the truth—Though the article is wanting in the original here, we are not to translate, as in the Margin, “truly sanctified”; for the reference seems plainly to be “the truth” mentioned in Joh 17:17. (See on [1883]Joh 17:17).
    Matthew Poole’s Commentary
    I sanctify myself, here, is no more than, I set myself apart, as a sacrifice acceptable and well pleasing in the sight of God: and indeed sanctifying, in the ancient notion of it under the law, did ordinarily signify the setting of persons and things apart to the special service of God; which was done legally by certain ritual performances and ceremonies, and is still done inwardly and spiritually by regeneration, and renewing of the hearts of men and women by the efficacious working of the Holy Ghost. Christ saith, that for his disciples sake he sanctified himself, being both the Priest and the sacrifice.

    Christ set apart himself as a sacrifice for his people,

    that they might be sanctified: not only our eternal life and happiness, but all the means to it, fell within the counsel of God; hence we are said to be chosen of Christ, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love, Ephesians 1:4; and within the purchase of Christ: hence the apostle saith, Ephesians 5:25,26, that he gave himself for his church, that he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water: and our Saviour here saith, that he set apart himself for a sacrifice for our sins, that his people might be sanctified through the truth; that is, by receiving the truth, not in their ears only, but in their hearts, in the love of it, and bringing forth the fruits of it in all holiness of life and conversation.

  105. foreverblessed says:

    O dear, I thought I gave only Matthew Poole’s commentary,
    But you got a few more commentaries, just for free!

    Jesus sets Himself to go to Jerusalem:
    Matthew 20:17-19

    Now as Jesus was going up to Jerusalem, He took the twelve aside and said to them. “We are going up to Jerusalem, and the Son of Man will be betrayed to the chief priests and the teachers of the law. They will condemn Him to death and will turn Him over to the Gentiles to be mocked and flogged and crucified. On the third day He will be raised to life!”

    That timing is after He had raised Lazarus, and He retreated to Judea, John 11:54 where He stayed with His disciples.
    Then He departed to go to Jerusalem, through Jericho.
    Luke 18:31-35

    Going from Jericho is a way up, like walking up a slope.

    That reminds me of the Psalms. Song of Ascents, the going up to Jerusalem.
    Psalm 111-118

  106. foreverblessed says:

    Psalm 111-118 are the Hallel Psalms
    Hallelujah
    To the ultimate goal: Psalms 118:24-29
    This is the day the Lord has made
    With boughs in hand, join in the festal procession up to the horns of the altar v27

    The altar, where Jesus was sacrificed

    Then comes Psalm 119 where to me in all letters if the alphabet Jesus is portrayed.

    Psalm 120 to Psalm 135 Song of Ascents
    Not one Ascent, but plural Ascents,
    Maybe they are not about Jesus one ascent from Jericho up to Jerusalem, but talk about something else.

  107. poohpity says:

    Could it be that those particular Psalms of Ascent are referring to the journeys of the people who went to Jerusalem from where ever they lived every year to the Temple for the various occasions that they celebrated God for who He is and all that He had done for them? The differing nations they passed through to get there were often hostile so they needed the protection of God on the journey just as we daily need the protection of God on our individual journeys through life especially if we are living sanctified lives rather than like the world behaves.

  108. poohpity says:

    I think that sometimes we can make things harder to understand than they really are. K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Saint.

  109. poohpity says:

    ODB for today is excellent!

  110. jeff1 says:

    God is in His temple,
    Just and holy Lord,
    Just beyond our measure,
    Rightness unexplored;
    Holy God transcendent,
    Wisdom high above,
    Ever, only justice,
    Ever, only love.

    God is in His temple
    Though the world is wrong –
    Justice ever waiting,
    Evil ever strong.
    Wait His perfect timing –
    Every knee will bow.
    As we daily trust Him,
    Peace is here and now.

    Through all storm and struggle,
    God is on His throne,
    Love forever sovereign,
    Blessing yet unknown.
    God is always with us,
    Good in all His ways,
    Templed in His people,
    Throned in grateful praise.

  111. Beloved says:

    I was remembering just the other day of a Hebrews class I took in college. The teacher was a PHD in New Testament -who had just returned from Scotland to study- and many pastoral students also. When they would get going I was lost in the dust and out of frustration one day said why are you making it so hard? Why discuss in such depth? You know what they said? Nothing. Just humbly listened and I don’t recall anything after that I was so frustrated. But they never brought it up and I’m sure prayed for me. I did get an A in the class- for effort I suppose- but I learned to have deep respect for those “above” me in biblical studies and usually listen to a couple every day at least. Yes I was the weaker brother who felt the basics was enough at the time. They loved me and one even hugged me a while later. It was a surprise and felt good and suddenly their being so knowledgeable wasn’t intimidating but made me grateful to God. I absolutely love nothing more than a good biblical teaching. We are so blessed to have internet to read with in-depth studies and listen to Godly pastor teachers of younger pastors. (I remember having to buy heavy books for study and sit in a library for hours waiting to get a book I was required to use for a paper, Ah the good old days)

  112. Beloved says:

    That said, I do appreciate the study that some here put into scripture. But I realize not all are given to it which is fine with me if anyone cares what I think which does not matter at all, really.

  113. Beloved says:

    Oh dear that sounded weird after rereading but it was merely introspection, not critical of anyone!

  114. poohpity says:

    If God had not put the desire in my heart to know Him I probably would not bother with reading His word either. To me it has no association with the amount of study I did in college but just a daily walk and talk with Him so it in no way overwhelms me like college did. For all that the Lord did for me, taking a few minutes every morning to sit with Him to grow closer is nothing in comparison. It is a habit that has blessed my life and put Him first before the beginning of everyday, it is the beginning of everyday.

    When I am in a close relationship with anyone I want to talk with them and listen to them because communication is vital to the survival of any relationship. I like to be near those I love. God pursued me I just want to pursue Him as well.

  115. foreverblessed says:

    It’s ok Beloved, you can just skip it when it goes over your head.
    But what a good testimony about your bible school!
    They listened to you, and said nothing.
    For sure that they have prayed for you!

    People are different, some go through lots of pages a day, and others cannot get enough of just one verse!

    Again:
    John 17:19
    Jesus consecrated Himself to be offered in Jerusalem.

    When Jesus withdrew Himself beyond the Jordan river, to the east side, after He had raised Lazarus to life.
    He had to wait till the time of Passover.
    Mark 10:32,33-34

    Utmost writes about it on March 15:

    The discipline of dismay

    As they followed they were afraid. —Mark 10:32

    At the beginning of our life with Jesus Christ, we were sure we knew all there was to know about following Him. It was a delight to forsake everything else and to throw ourselves before Him in a fearless statement of love. But now we are not quite so sure. Jesus is far ahead of us and is beginning to seem different and unfamiliar— “Jesus was going before them; and they were amazed” (Mark 10:32).

    There is an aspect of Jesus that chills even a disciple’s heart to its depth and makes his entire spiritual life gasp for air. This unusual Person with His face set “like a flint” (Isaiah 50:7) is walking with great determination ahead of me, and He strikes terror right through me. He no longer seems to be my Counselor and Friend and has a point of view about which I know nothing. All I can do is stand and stare at Him in amazement. At first I was confident that I understood Him, but now I am not so sure. I begin to realize that there is a distance between Jesus and me and I can no longer be intimate with Him. I have no idea where He is going, and the goal has become strangely distant.

    Jesus Christ had to understand fully every sin and sorrow that human beings could experience, and that is what makes Him seem unfamiliar. When we see this aspect of Him, we realize we really don’t know Him. We don’t recognize even one characteristic of His life, and we don’t know how to begin to follow Him. He is far ahead of us, a Leader who seems totally unfamiliar, and we have no friendship with Him.

    The discipline of dismay is an essential lesson which a disciple must learn. The danger is that we tend to look back on our times of obedience and on our past sacrifices to God in an effort to keep our enthusiasm for Him strong (see Isaiah 50:10-11). But when the darkness of dismay comes, endure until it is over, because out of it will come the ability to follow Jesus truly, which brings inexpressibly wonderful joy.

  116. foreverblessed says:

    Jesus had to face the sin of the whole world, every sin and every sorrow.
    Talking about things that go over our head, well, this is one of them.
    The sin of the world, the load of it, Jesus would identify Himself to them,
    Him who knew no sin became sin for us

    Jesus was facing that task, and the disciples did not comprehend Him. They had no idea what He was up to.

    And that might be the same today, when God knows what He is doing in the world, and we are just dismayed at what is happening.

    Clinging close to Jesus, coming at rest in Him, seeking the peace from Him, sitting close at His feet, singing hymns and spiritual songs, drinking in His Words
    till our spirits are calmed.

  117. foreverblessed says:

    …Let him who walks in the dark, who has no light,
    trust in the name of the Lord
    and rely on his God.
    Isaiah 50:10

  118. bullwinkle11 says:

    Seems to me that the conversation is going very deep and getting caught up in manutia. Paul made it much simpler for us in 1 Cor: 3,4
    For what I received I passed on to you as of first importance: that Christ died for our sins according to the Scriptures, 4 that he was buried,that he was raised on the third day according to the Scriptures,
    It is wonderful that people spend their entire lives studying scripture, but for me I need KISS, Keep It Simple Stupid!

  119. poohpity says:

    Love God, love others!

  120. Beloved says:

    Keeping it simple-

    20Nevertheless, do not rejoice that the spirits submit to you, but rejoice that your names are written in heaven.”

    Jesus’ Prayer of Thanksgiving
    (Matthew 11:25–30)
    21At that time Jesus rejoiced in the Holy Spirit and declared, “I praise You, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, because You have hidden these things from the wise and learned, and revealed them to little children. Yes, Father, for this was well-pleasing in Your sight.

    22All things have been entrusted to Me by My Father. No one knows who the Son is except the Father, and no one knows who the Father is except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal Him.”

    23Then Jesus turned to the disciples and said privately, “Blessed are the eyes that see what you see. 24For I tell you that many prophets and kings desired to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.”

  121. Beloved says:

    “Wise and learned”
    Speaking of such as even Paul at that time. Thinking of what a great asset he became to the Kingdom once he saw and submitted to Jesus! We read and study his words every day so many many years later.

  122. Beloved says:

    23Then Jesus turned to the disciples and said privately, “Blessed are the eyes that see what you see. 24For I tell you that many prophets and kings desired to see what you see but did not see it, and to hear what you hear but did not hear it.”

    Gods timing is always perfect!

  123. jeff1 says:

    I did not get to know God through scripture but difficulties in life would draw me to His comfort and assurance and keeping it simple works for me.

    The world is a complex place by all accounts and so I am glad I trust God otherwise I would despair being the nature I am.

    I find it very hard to change my nature which is to be naive and too trusting for my own good which is why I usually fall foul.

    God sent His son, they called Him Jesus
    He came to love, heal and forgive
    He lived and died to buy my pardon
    An empty grave is there to prove my savior lives

    Because He lives, I can face tomorrow
    Because He lives, all fear is gone
    Because I know He holds the future
    And life is worth the living, just because He lives

    How sweet to hold a newborn baby
    And feel the pride and joy He gives
    But greater still the calm assurance
    This child can face uncertain day, because He lives

    Because He lives, I can face tomorrow
    Because He lives, all fear is gone
    Because I know He holds the future
    And life is worth the living, just because He lives

    And then one day, I’ll cross the river
    I’ll fight life’s final war with pain
    And then, as death gives way to victory
    I’ll see the lights of glory and I’ll know He reigns

    Because He lives, I can face tomorrow
    Because He lives, all fear is gone
    Because I know He holds the future
    And life is worth the living, just because He lives

    I can face tomorrow
    Because He lives, all fear is gone
    Because I know He holds the future
    And life is worth the living, just because He lives

  124. Beloved says:

    Paul thought he knew God through scripture but until he met Jesus was he really then knew God. Imagine the excitement when his eyes were opened! Gods chose His man to help open the eyes of the world.

  125. Beloved says:

    Paul thought he knew God through scripture but until he met Jesus was *when* he really then knew God.

  126. Beloved says:

    Thinking of bubbles and Regina as teachers how are things going? Schools here are closing down again except for elementary. We are having trouble finding enough subs to operate as well as a problem finding enough healthcare as so many have died already from covid. It’s startling!

  127. jeff1 says:

    Look beyond the temporary.
    Rise above your fear and pain.
    Breathe the everlasting Kingdom.
    Walk in God’s eternal reign.
    Rest in God’s eternal reign.

    Lift your eyes of faith and see Him
    Here, as evil threatens harm.
    All His power and love surround you.
    Feel His everlasting arms.
    Trust His everlasting arms.

    Darkness dies when comes the morning.
    Sin and death cannot endure.
    He is light forever shining.
    Every step in Him is sure.
    Life in Him is safe and sure.

    God is good. O what a Father!
    Trusting Him is full release.
    He is here among His people,
    Breathing life and joy and peace,
    Life and joy and endless peace.

  128. bubbles says:

    We had half the group coming two days, and then remote for three, and then the other half coming another two days and remote for three. The second group was a week behind the first group, and I taught two classes, so it was two lessons four times and two different lessons another four times. Then I did that for another subject. The remote days were hard because some would not do their work. Trying to remember and keep up with who is doing what is not easy. Then we were told we had to self contain, so I went from teaching two subjects twice a day to seven subjects all day and my pay was cut. Now, toss in chemo brain and the confusion of the things changing and trying to keep up with all of this. It’s hard.

    Now there are the two groups coming different days. The board office keeps putting more and more on us and there is less and less time to get things completed.

    I was exposed and on a Monday, and was not told until Friday. In the midst of all that, my dad was severely injured in the hospital, and I could not go be with him. I had to be absent a week and a day from work, so this week was catch up and I am worn out. Today we had to prepare for going remote the week after Thanksgiving week, and that took the entire afternoon. Every computer program we use was changed this year, so things that were second nature are now awkward. The way we communicated with students/families changed. Video platforms changed and are more challenging to use. Remote work is difficult and time consuming.

    I am very tired and sad.

  129. street says:

    things he did— that give us reason to want to be counted among the friends and citizens of his kingdom

    thinking it is an error to think we could be counted among the friends and citizens of His Kingdom, by the things that we have done. now i am thinking of James again, well maybe rahab and ruth.

  130. Beloved says:

    Bubbles I am increasing my prayers for you and with more specificity thank you for blessing us with your struggles here. Love, Joyce

  131. jeff1 says:

    Walk with me, Lord, walk with me
    Walk with me, Lord, walk with me
    While I’m on this tedious journey, Lord
    Walk with me, Lord, walk with me, Lord
    Yeah

    Hold my hand, Lord, hold my hand, yes
    Hold my hand, Lord, hold my hand
    While I’m on this, while I’m on this tedious journey, Lord
    I want you to hold my hand, Lord, hold my hand, yeah
    Hold my hand, Lord, yeah

    Walk with me, Lord, walk with me, yeah
    Walk with me, Lord, walk with me, yes
    While I’m on this, while I’m on this tedious journey, Lord
    Walk with me, Lord, walk with me, yeah

    Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah
    Oh yeah

    Don’t leave me alone, Lord, no
    Don’t you leave me alone
    I need you to hold my hand, Lord
    Hold my hand, Lord
    Yeah, yeah, yeah
    Hold my hand, Lord

  132. Beloved says:

    “thinking it is an error to think we could be counted among the friends and citizens of His Kingdom, by the things that we have done.“

    If I count myself unworthy of relationship in the Kingdom because of the things that I have done I think of Paul! He was seeking out and killing Christians before Jesus set him straight! What a transformation! Now that would be easy to observe in a silent film – I can see it now- I think the experience of new birth Jesus talked about is done in silence for most of us.

    We are always being observed by non believers. James talks about that, yes, not by works alone but by faith and works following is change observed. Words mean nothing if the heart is not invaded by Christ. Do my words match my new heart? I ask myself often.

  133. street says:

    thinking of joseph’s breaking heart as his brothers pass every test he gives them, just before he reveals who he is. just wanting restoration, like a father waiting for his sons return.

  134. foreverblessed says:

    That was a beautiful observation about Joseph!

    “..Words mean nothing if the heart is not invaded by Christ. Do my words match my new heart? I ask myself often.”

    That is so true, that through Jesus our hearts may be changed.
    Slowly, I believe that that process is. That we may look at how we responded to adversary situations and or persons in our life ,now compared to ten years ago..

    Maybe the flowing of Gods cleansing spirit is better to view as s film, like the bible project has beautiful pictures of
    a light beam that permeates everything,
    of ever flowing water, starting small and getting bigger and bigger.

    Bubbles I am praying for you, and your father, and your school!

  135. foreverblessed says:

    Sorry for the too depth info about Jesus sanctifying Himself for us. John 17:19

    For myself, the effect of having been immersed to this message, my thoughts would go back to Jesus and His great task,all during the day, while we had to clear the kitchen, and part of the living room, and a workman is working, drilling a big hole in the outer wall, ( we have a two layer stone wal) for the kitchen air to go out of the house.
    I was cooking last night, it was already working,and a stream of fresh air coming in the kitchen, and the cooking air hoeing out.
    A stream of fresh air, like Jesus’ Spirit refreshes us.
    It was all possible because of the Cross, how He suffered for us, the Spirit in His body, and now gives us His Spirit
    Through His stripes we are healed.

    But during this hectic time, Jesus’ facing Himself to Jerusalem would come back and back. These thoughts were more than all the chores to be done!
    Thank God!

    We can raise up above physical existence, and see Jesus above all

  136. jeff1 says:

    You Raise Me Up

    When I am down and,
    Oh my soul, so weary,
    When troubles come and my heart burdened be,
    Then I am still, and wait here in the silence,
    Until you come and sit a while with me.

    You raise me up,
    So I can stand on mountains,
    You raise me up,
    To walk on stormy seas,
    I am strong,
    When I am on your shoulders,
    You raise me up…
    To more than I can be.

    You raise me up,
    So I can stand on mountains,
    You raise me up,
    To walk on stormy seas,

    I am strong,
    When I am on your shoulders,
    You raise me up…
    To more than I can be.

    You raise me up,
    So I can stand on mountains,
    You raise me up,
    To walk on stormy seas,
    I am strong,
    When I am on your shoulders,

    You raise me up…
    To more than I can be.

    You raise me up,
    So I can stand on mountains,
    You raise me up,
    To walk on stormy seas,

    I am strong,
    When I am on your shoulders,
    You raise me up…
    To more than I can be.

    You raise me up…
    To more than I can be.

  137. plumbape says:

    Bubbles not sure you remember the ape in Indy but I’ve read many of your comments and I love them. My wife and I are praying for you….. Mike and Sharon Holt

  138. plumbape says:

    That is Indy in Indiana lol Okay you knew that one…. justing want you to smile or even better laugh with us that God is Good ALL the time….

  139. SFDBWV says:

    My wife’s grandmother “Bessie” had one of those pictures of Jesus up on her living-room wall of Jesus whose eyes followed you wherever you went.

    Of course it had no transcript, no words no dialog; it just was watching you no matter from what angle you looked at it.

    No acts, nor miracles, just His eyes looking into yours.

    I suppose some people thought it “creepy”, while others may have been made to feel self-conscious.

    I suppose depending where your heart is, it is either comforting to know His eyes are upon you or like seeing a police car while you are driving and suddenly making sure you are obeying the “law”.

    Light drizzle this morning on the first day of rifle deer season in West Virginia. Haven’t hear any shooting yet, but it is just now getting light.

    Matt and I went yesterday and got our haircuts, then ate at Burger King. Did a little grocery shopping before coming home.

    Such days wears him and me out. Hoping for an uneventful day of rest.

    Steve

  140. bubbles says:

    Thank you! I do remember you and your wife. I am very thankful to be where I am and the position God gave me. Currently it’s like we are flying an airplane and building it at the same time while it’s on fire. :D There are questions to ask and don’t know enough to ask, and issues arise that cannot be anticipated. I cannot keep up with the assignments being submitted and when I was quarantined for over a week, things weren’t done then an it was at the beginning of another huge shift at work and I wasn’t there. I have bone pain in my back; is the cancer back? My doctor won’t call me back. . I am afraid. I am sad.

    But above all that. . .my poor dad. I can’t go see him now. Then when I could, he yelled at me and told me to leave.

  141. poohpity says:

    Why should I feel discouraged
    Why should the shadows come
    Why should my heart feel lonely
    And long for heaven and home
    When Jesus is my portion
    A constant friend is He
    His eye is on the sparrow
    And I know He watches over me
    His eye is on the sparrow
    And I know He watches me

    I sing because I’m happy
    I sing because I’m free
    His eye is on the sparrow
    And I know He watches me (He watches me)
    His eye is on the sparrow
    And I know He watches
    I know He watches
    I know He watches me

  142. poohpity says:

    Matt 10: Are not two sparrows sold for a penny? And not one of them will fall to the ground apart from your Father. 30 But even the hairs of your head are all numbered. 31 Fear not, therefore; you are of more value than many sparrows.

    It seems even if one does not read scripture we can find scripture in songs and many other areas with that foundation of knowing scripture our eyes are open to the many places it pops up. I have often said how much easier to believe if I saw Jesus and heard Him in the flesh but we have proof that many saw and heard Him yet still did not believe. So it seems to follow that unless one is called and enabled by God to believe then maybe they will never believe no matter what they see or hear.

  143. poohpity says:

    A good verse to think on is; “For many are called, but few are chosen” Matt 22:14 Some translations say; “Many are invited, but few are chosen.”

  144. street says:

    action!

    8 [d]To sum up, all of you be harmonious, sympathetic, [e]loving, compassionate, and humble; 9 not returning evil for evil or insult for insult, but giving a blessing instead; for you were called for the very purpose that you would inherit a blessing. 10 For,

    “The one who desires life, to love and see good days,
    Must keep his tongue from evil and his lips from speaking deceit.
    11
    He must turn away from evil and do good;
    He must seek peace and pursue it.
    12
    For the eyes of the Lord are toward the righteous,
    And His ears attend to their prayer,
    But the face of the Lord is against evildoers.”

    8 But do not let this one fact escape your notice, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years like one day. 9 The Lord is not slow about His promise, as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not willing for any to perish, but for all to come to repentance.

  145. street says:

    3 He replied, “I will also ask you a question. Tell me: 4 John’s baptism—was it from heaven, or of human origin?”

    thinking, is the Bible from Heaven, or of human origin?

  146. Beloved says:

    Not returning evil but blessing! I still cringe sometimes when I talk to God and told Him how I feel last night. He was so kind. He showed me many reasons why I feel the way I do. Sin has many shades and nuances but God is greater and more wise than the devil. AND, He wants me!!! I can’t put into words how good He makes me feel. More of Him less of me. It’s a spiritual work played out in actions.

  147. Beloved says:

    thinking, is the Bible from Heaven, or of human origin?

    Since the Bible is how we learn about God as well as the history of Gods people I believe it’s from heaven. Seems to make sense that almighty God maker of heaven earth would have a plan to communicate with the people He made after his own image. Thinking you were being facetious maybe or do you have something other in mind. I love your thoughts here street. Always thinking and leaning I am.

    BTW-where did God come from? I know he always existed but it’s so hard to wrap my head around or am I getting into dangerous territory?

  148. Beloved says:

    Leaning- learning

  149. street says:

    is the Bible from Heaven, or of human origin?

    this was from the first time i was confronted with the origin of the Bible when i was 18. i did enjoy reading the Bible and the rabbit tails. then i ran into what peter ran into. go away, i am a sinful man. for many years i still went to church and listened every time the opportunity came up to hear about it or from it.

    we are told to consider the cost.

    the struggle to deny self and take up the cross, daily, and follow Jesus is not easy.

    He does promise peace and we know He loves us, He made us. the cross and the resurrection are proof. to be understood/received by faith.

    sanctify i believe means to set apart. as we follow we are set apart. not turning to the right or the left.

    think about that, right or the left in the culture of the usa today? sure participate in civic duties but don’t put your hope in them. just like you don’t put your hope in the medical community to save you.

    sometime we forget that He Holds us by His Hand.

    it is always better when we turn our thoughts away from ourselves to God. may His Word and Spirit Richly dwell in you.

  150. Beloved says:

    Thank you

  151. foreverblessed says:

    Turn our thoughts to God, and His Word:

    Since then, you have been raised with Christ,
    set your heart on things above,
    where Christ is seated at the right hand of God.
    Set your mind on things above, not on earthly things.
    For you died, and your life is now hidden with Christ in God.
    Col 3:1-3

    Meditate on it.
    Even the first few words, do I really grasp that? I have been raised with Christ!!!

  152. jeff1 says:

    You may ask me how I know my Lord is real (my Lord is real)
    You may doubt the things I say and doubt the way I feel (the way I feel)
    But I know He’s real today, He’ll always be (He’ll always be)
    I can feel His hand in mine and that’s enough for me

    I will never walk alone, He holds my hand (He holds my hand)
    He will guide each step I take
    And if I fall I know He’ll understand
    Till the day He tells me why He loves me so (He loves me so)
    I can feel His hand in mine
    That’s all I need to know

    I will never walk alone, He holds my hand (He holds my hand)
    He will guide each step I take
    And if I fall I know He’ll understand
    Till the day He tells me why He loves me so (He loves me so)
    I can feel His hand in mine
    That’s all I need to know

    I can feel His hand in mine
    That’s all I need to know

    I can feel His hand in mine
    That’s all I need to know

  153. street says:

    we do see a lot of action in our every day life. if that is not enough the media is a great way to see what we are missing?

    Jesus actions were so different. it was hard to believe that others say He is a deceiver.

    thinking of those who believe and have not seen.

    10 And Joshua said, “By this you will know that the living God is among you, and that He will assuredly drive out from you the Canaanite, the Hittite, the Hivite, the Perizzite, the Girgashite, the Amorite, and the Jebusite. 11 Behold, the ark of the covenant of the Lord of all the earth is crossing over ahead of you into the Jordan. 12 Now then, take for yourselves twelve men from the tribes of Israel, one man for each tribe.

    thinking of the twelve.

  154. Beloved says:

    I heard an old, old story, how a Savior came from glory
    How He gave His life on Calvary to save a wretch like me
    I heard about His groaning, of His precious blood’s atoning
    Then I repented of my sins and won the victory

    Oh victory in Jesus, my Savior forever
    He sought me and bought me with His redeeming blood
    He loved me ‘ere I knew Him and all my love is due Him
    He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood

    I heard about His healing, of His cleansing power revealing
    How He made the lame to walk again and ’caused the blind to see
    And then I cried, “Dear Jesus, come and heal my broken spirit”
    And somehow Jesus came and brought to me the victory

    Oh victory in Jesus, my Savior forever
    He sought me and He bought me with His redeeming blood
    He loved me ‘ere I knew Him and all my love is due Him
    He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood,

    Oh victory in Jesus, my Savior forever
    He sought me and He bought me with His redeeming blood
    He loved me ‘ere I knew Him and all my love is due Him
    He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood
    He plunged me to victory beneath the cleansing flood

    Songwriters: E M Bartlett

  155. Beloved says:

    Jesus was called a deceiver, I think. because He confronted everything people thought they knew about God and how to stay in good graces with Him; to obey the Law, laws and observe the ceremonies God ordained to keep Himself in their remembrance. How they thought about a coming messiah I’m sure, they all had their guesses and perceptions to filter the Truth as some do today. Interesting how He used the common man to display His God-ness. Calling fishermen (Peter) to carry on what He started on earth. Born to fail just as we all are. Wretched beloveds of God we are! Perfect in Gods sight because Jesus died for our sin. Perfect but not perfect, wretched but saved!

  156. Beloved says:

    My depression and anxiety are intense these days. Yet the joy of knowing the LORD is my strength. He’s all that gives me hope and strength for today. I can smile in hope always and laugh if something funny comes along but not often lately. I trust in Jesus.

  157. Regina says:

    Good Evening, All

    I hope/pray that you all are well. BGg, I’m well. I stopped by to say hello and to thank yall for your prayers for my mom. She doesn’t like to drink water, so she ended up with a UTI (Urinary Tract Infection). She’s doing much better now, and the last time I talked with her, I tried to encourage her to drink more water. I told her that I buy flavored water in order to make it more exciting to drink. Though when I’m *really* thirsty, I’ll drink any kind of water. I asked her to just drink 3 big gulps really fast in order to get it over with, and I hope she took my advice. I’m gonna call her tomorrow to check on her. Welcome back, plumbape. I remember you being a part of the blog years ago. I also remember Bob in Cornwall England, Saled, Bruce C. (who’s now in heaven), Hisgirlforlife, Tracey and Pat (who blogs here every now and then).
    bubbles, I want to pray for you because I understand what you’re going through. I don’t want you to be sad, and I want you to know that the trials and tribulation that we endure on earth cannot produce any sorrow or sadness that God can’t heal. So, I pray that He will comfort your heart and give you supernatural peace, courage and strength so that you will be able to endure the situation that you’re faced with right now. I pray that the Lord will give you supernatural wisdom, nimbleness of mind and clarity of thought so that you will be better able to handle the demands of the changing technology and all that’s required of you as a teacher. And I pray that you will find strength and rest for your mind, heart and soul in the Word of God. In Jesus’ name, Amen! I have a Bible passage for you and all who need the spiritual food…

    Philippians 4:6-8, NIV
    6) Do not be anxious about anything, but in every situation, by prayer and petition, with thanksgiving, present your requests to God. 7) And the peace of God, which transcends all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus. 8) Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.

    Well, for those of us who still report for duty on a job, this is the first weekend of our Thanksgiving holiday break. And we, along with people all over the world–employed, unemployed or retired–have so much to be thankful for. To God be all the glory for the many blessings that He has given us!

    1 CORINTHIANS 15

    51 degrees (feels like 47) and mostly cloudy in my neck of the woods…

    LOVE to all,
    Regina

  158. Regina says:

    Beloved, I also pray for you that the Lord will provide everything that you need in order to be able to cope with your anxiety and depression. In the mighty name of Jesus, I pray. Amen!

  159. jeff1 says:

    May these words comfort you Beloved.

    This day in You is nearly done.
    You soon will lay me down to sleep.
    Then while You rest Your helpless child,
    You hold me close, You watch and keep.

    Today I failed – O Lord, You know.
    Forgive the good I left undone.
    Reshape my life with holy love,
    And make me more like Christ, Your Son.

    Though I am weak, Almighty God,
    You give Your strength for every task.
    And when Your child can do no more,
    Then resting here is all You ask.

    O Boundless Sea of life and love,
    I’ll give my days to no one else!
    Come draw us nearer through the night,
    And fill tomorrow with Yourself!

  160. Beloved says:

    Thank you Regina and Viv

  161. SFDBWV says:

    For whatever reason the thread of conversation just seems not to be able to gel or continue a continuity of thought.

    Am wondering if it is because we all have our own issues and they drive our conversation or even quiet them?

    Mart asks about a silent movie or a stark transcript or an action movie or a quiet set down with Jesus as teacher or philosopher.

    It seems that without the Holy Spirit’s involvement with each one of us on a deeply personal level, that none of those situations work.

    While with the Holy Spirit all of them do.

    To share a bit of my personal struggles there are times when I still get frustrated and ask God why.

    Lately on two separate occasions He reminded me He already told me why, I just have to believe Him and endure the trials and tribulations that my pathway has in them.

    Faith isn’t as easy sometimes as just saying it.

    It is my observation that no one gets through life without heartache and heartbreak. Without pain and suffering.

    In part it is because of that we can feel empathy and sympathy for others and offer comfort however we can.

    Love sometimes cannot take away the pain, but it can make it a little easier to endure.

    Tell someone today that you love them and mean it.

    34 degrees and rain.

    Steve

  162. jeff1 says:

    It seems to me that faith is more about endurance and patience in a world that gets more alien to me.

    That is my observation today that I have little understanding of this world and I am not sure if that is what God intended but it is where I find myself.

    I find myself depending on my sons who are better educated on this world than I am.

    The world is moving faster than I can keep up with it and I am weary of trying so I leave it in God’s hands safe in His keeping for I have lost the will to live in it.

    1 Abide with me: fast falls the eventide;
    the darkness deepens; Lord, with me abide.
    When other helpers fail and comforts flee,
    Help of the helpless, O abide with me.

    2 Swift to its close ebbs out life’s little day;
    earth’s joys grow dim, its glories pass away.
    Change and decay in all around I see.
    O thou who changest not, abide with me.

    3 I need thy presence every passing hour.
    What but thy grace can foil the tempter’s power?
    Who like thyself my guide and strength can be?
    Through cloud and sunshine, O abide with me.

    4 I fear no foe with thee at hand to bless,
    ills have no weight, and tears no bitterness.
    Where is death’s sting? Where, grave, thy victory?
    I triumph still, if thou abide with me.

    5 Hold thou thy cross before my closing eyes.
    Shine through the gloom and point me to the skies.
    Heaven’s morning breaks and earth’s vain shadows flee;
    in life, in death, O Lord, abide with me.

  163. Beloved says:

    Thank you all so much for thinking and praying for me- today I have the confidence and ability to think clearly enough to buy another car. It really takes a lot for me to be able to deal with salesmen and insurance agents. (I told God it’s not fair I have to do all this by myself) But my car I’ve had for 13 years now isn’t even worth an oil change anymore so time to let it go; did I say I hate change??? So stressful for me. But in the end the extra stress caused me to go to our LORD so much more and on top of all the stress of world and national events. I’m shocked and amazed how adding one more thing to the load doesn’t destroy us but proves God is greater than one can imagine or think. And yes, Steve, I too get frustrated but my tendency is to ask how much more can I take before You (God) crush me?!?! When I whine to Him He says His strength is sufficient for my needs! Ok, prove yourself I say. Then I shrink back in terror just in case I’m being a bad child for asking. But peace that He gives me overrules the stress and clarity of mind and a new found confidence settle in. I can do all things THROUGH CHRIST, who strengthens me. Blessed Jesus love divine, always watching always kind. Amen

  164. Beloved says:

    Last night the LORD directed me to Psalm38 and I knew he heard and understood where I am coming from. Life is so hard and we can’t do it alone. I slept peacefully 8 hours instead of the usual 11-12 lately. I’m beginning to feel “normal” again.

  165. street says:

    In a bitter political season some said, “Don’t listen to what they say. Watch what they do.” During the same time, others reminded us that “words matter.”

    thinking the words are a distraction from their true intent. say and doing should be the same.

  166. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, indeed words AND actions do matter.
    James 3:9-12
    To me, the same as with the film without words, or words without film. With words onl

    Beloved, about Psalm 38, in my bible I put a note with Psalm 38:11:
    This is about Jesus

  167. SFDBWV says:

    Yes Street words and actions should be the same. While too often the intent is there the actions never quite catches up with the “intent”.

    Is “intent” the same as the heart in such situations?

    While the example of Peter saying he would die for Jesus and then deny even knowing him is often used to make some point from some. The fact remains Peter at that time of making that statement really loved Jesus enough to tell Him that and I am sure felt that way.

    And even though fear for His safety and even his life forced Peter to deny Jesus and himself in a moment of fear, Peter did eventually die in the service of Jesus.

    It is a widely accepted belief that politicians talk out of both sides of their face and the politicians in our news today certainly confirm that belief.

    However with regards to some Christians, or maybe better said people who profess themselves to be “Christian”, does a lack of action confirm there is no “fruit “or evidence of the Holy Spirit in them?

    Or is it that their intent or desire is just too weak to follow through?

    Then again is their lack of action a result of other “Christians” simply judging their lack of action or because they haven’t yet grown up enough to act as an adult Christian follower?

    Observing the world around us albeit political or from the Christian perspective should give us a picture of what is right and what is wrong and afford us the opportunity to do the right thing and avoid the traps of doing the wrong.

    All from a heart that sees beyond the scenes played out before our eyes and ears. A heart with Jesus driven and whose intent is love.

    26 degrees outside, but warm here in the house.

    Steve

  168. SFDBWV says:

    I see Foreverblessed we are at the computer at the same time with our minds on the same matter…Holy Spirit inspired.

    Steve

  169. plumbape says:

    off subject… Steve I almost forgot where you live lol I hear ya brother. I Have learned a great deal from you and Mart and just to many to type! Remember Daisy Mary Golder? not sure about spelling…. Keep up the fight as long as you as able to in Jesus!!!!! The ape in Indy Mike

  170. plumbape says:

    Always liked That’s my King… I tried to copy and paste here but I guess I’ve forgot how… owe well.

    joke I phone talking 2 I phones walk into a bar….
    one says to the other one I FORGET the rest….
    it’s kind of funny like phones don’t remember lol

  171. poohpity says:

    Unlike how we parent our children to grow up to be independent of us that is a sign of adulthood so they can function apart from us BUT maturity in Christ is quite the opposite we become more dependent, trusting and reliant on God. Thus as Jesus said, “you must become like one of these little children”, little children rely, trust and depend on their care from their parents as we should with God by turning our lives over to Him which is a sign of maturity. Topsy-turvy of the world’s ways as Mart taught in the past.

  172. jeff1 says:

    I observe how some are very black and white in their thinking yet I have not found life to be so.

    The world I live in has been fifty shades of grey and I am not talking of a movie.

    If you see life in black and white it becomes much more simple and I have never found life simple because I myself or others have muddied the water.

    My mum was forever repeating sayings to me when I was a child warning me of my folly and yet it is only now as an adult I see the sense in them.

    I ask myself why is it that today I listen to children with wisdom that to my way of thinking should be coming out of the mouth of an adult and yet here I am talking to an eight year old with the mind of a 70 year old.

    While others find this a charming characteristic in a child I find it makes me feel uneasy.

    I ask myself why this is and realise that my mother was of the opinion that adult conversation was not for my tiny ears and would persistently send us children to the playground when she indulged in gossip of any kind.

    Perhaps that is why I can be so naive today I have never really understood adult conversation until now.

    I haven’t been observing the world from a Christian perspective as I had what you might call a confusing childhood when it came to God.

    My mum never having been baptised or confirmed had no desire to see the inside of a church so she would send me with my dad instead.

    My dad had a simple faith and that was he was here to please God and not himself.

    I didn’t have my dad’s simplistic approach to God and He God seemed a lot more complex to me than my dad’s perspective on Him.

    I don’t seem to have lost that perspective and why I focus on Christ as God becomes more simple when I consider Jesus’s words and actions.

    It seems to me that it is not only non believers whose eyes are upon us as we are very good at summing each other up as well.

    Yet my dad never talked or summed people up and was a man with little to say other than to utter the words if it pleases God.

    He was one of the few believers I knew who would aspire to being on God’s side as others were more concerned with God being on theirs.

    When I focus on Christ I find the security and rest I need to trust God in a world that can be harsh and uncertain.

    Jesus is the evidence of God’s love and faithfulness throughout generations as I see it but that’s because I am a believer in a world where science and technology are paramount today.

    I think this means God will find new ways to reveal Himself to an unbelieving world and do a much better job of it than Christians have in the past but that’s just my thoughts for what their worth I am not sure.

  173. SFDBWV says:

    I haven’t the time and energy to actively pursue my ancestor connections I daily receive from “Ancestor.Com”, but I find them very interesting, revealing and informative.

    Of ancestors as close as mom and dad or as far back as I can discover, it remains that I am they and they are me.

    My quirks, my mannerisms, the color of my eyes and hair, even the way I smile or stand and walk all come from them.

    I am the result of all of them and culmination of them all.

    Viv you see quite clearly and represent your faith very well. What in part makes that work for you so well is because you have the balance of your mother and father’s influences.

    Couple that with your faith in Christ and you have a healthy belief system that works for you.

    We cannot impart our faith into others, but we can share it.

    Be blessed in all you do today.

    Steve

  174. Beloved says:

    Words actions intent perceptions

    My “what a tangled mess we weave” sometimes. But the Spirit of Truth always overrides the mess making clarity not with, but, beyond broken human reasoning. I was also thinking of politics and the mess we have now- never thought it COULD get messier but it sure is. I suppose it always has been but because of social media we learn more than we need to know like watching private conversations through a peep hole. We do have a most unusual president at this moment certainly. Most unusual.

  175. jeff1 says:

    Yes, Steve, I would agree I have had a balanced influence because of my parents and also I was allowed to be a child whereas children have to grow up to fast these days and that just doesn’t seem right to me but at the same time I see that society demands it as technology and science are very much the driving forces in the world today and it is young minds that are challenged to aspire to meet the demands that brings.

    The world is changing fast and I seem to be slowing down so not sure where that leaves me other than struggling to keep abreast but thank God for my sons as they help me to do that.

    It is very true that we cannot impart our faith into others as I have tried with members of my own family and it caused arguments and since I don’t believe God wants me to force my will onto others I practise my faith and love the other members of my family whatever their beliefs as I believe love is more important to God when all is said and done as Paul mentions the greatest of the three virtues is love and if its good enough for Paul then it is good enough for me.

    Thank you for your blessing and I did some Christmas shopping for my sister today as we are going into lockdown from Friday 27th Nov until 11th December.

    Hope your day with your family is also blessed.

  176. poohpity says:

    Viv, I think you are honest and real with no pretense. I really respect that.

    I heard this song today and maybe everyone would enjoy it.

    One Day

    One day there’ll be no more waiting left for our souls
    One day there’ll be no more children longing for home
    One day when the kingdom comes right here where we stand
    We will see the promised land, mmm

    One day there’ll be no more lives taken too soon
    One day there’ll be no more need for a hospital room
    One day every tear that falls will be wiped by His hand
    We will see the promised land, mmm

    Hallelujah, there will be healing
    From this heartbreak we’ve been feeling
    We’ll sing in the darkest night
    ‘Cause we know that the light will come
    And there will be healing, hallelujah

    One day there’ll be no more anger left in our eyes
    One day the color of our skin won’t cause a divide
    One day we’ll be family, standing hand in hand
    And we will see the promised land, we will see the promised land

    Hallelujah, there will be healing
    From this heartbreak we’ve been feeling
    We’ll sing in the darkest night
    ‘Cause we know that the light will come
    And there will be healing, hallelujah
    Ooh, yeah
    I believe there will be healing, hallelujah

    One day every knee will bow, every tongue will confess
    One day when our tired and weary bones find their rest
    One day when the power of evil is brought to an end
    We will see the promised land, we will see the promised land

    Hallelujah, there will be healing
    From this heartbreak we’ve been feeling
    We’ll sing in the darkest night
    ‘Cause we know that the light will come
    And there will be healing, hallelujah
    And there will be healing, hallelujah
    And there will be healing, hallelujah

  177. jeff1 says:

    That’s a lovely song Pooh thanks for sharing.

  178. SFDBWV says:

    Today, in my house, is Thanksgiving eve. Yesterday I made chocolate chip cookies, a double batch. One for us and one for Matt’s friend Mere. We call her Mary, though her name is Meredith. People have always called her Mary.

    She will stop in tomorrow to visit with Matt in the morning and she swears that I make the world’s best chocolate chip cookies, so I have to keep up the image and make sure she gets her cookies.

    These are all actions of love. Her visit to Matt shows she knows how important it is for him to see friends his own age, especially people he has always known. So she takes time for him.

    The cookies are my way of showing appreciation for her and an act of love.

    I have dried out a loaf of wheat bread this week and this morning along with some celery and onions I will make the dressing for the turkey. The house will be filled with the aroma of the sautéed onions and celery and so begin the familiar sensory awareness of the Thanksgiving feast on tap for tomorrow.

    I have cooked our Thanksgiving meal for the past 21 years. That first year of Matt being in this condition and his mother gone I did not want him to miss out on a family tradition and so began my transition into the Thanksgiving chef.

    For nearly every year since, we have invited someone to eat with us, but this year it looks like it will be just us unless tomorrow provides us with someone whom God sends.

    Once again, these are all actions of love. Nothing laborious only a labor of love shone from the heat into the doing of what is at the seat of the heart.

    Watching the news we see all the medical and political experts warning people not to travel home for the traditional Thanksgiving meal with friends or families. They will be singing the same song coming into Christmas.

    This shows the demonic nature of this virus. How it closes churches separates people and attacks even the gathering of families for holidays and weddings.

    Whereas I believe God sees the intent of the heart, people see the actions of the heart in their deeds.

    People are able to see the fruit of the Spirit, whereas God is able to see the seed.

    I hope wherever you are today the seed of the fruit of the Spirit is in you and that God affords you an opportunity to show it as fruit to someone.

    27 degrees in the mountains of West Virginia on a clear star lit morning.

    Steve

  179. jeff1 says:

    My mum used to say to me that people think they can keep secrets and bury truths but that they are very foolish as it doesn’t matter how long those truths will come to the surface.

    I am thinking today of a well known celebrity who was knighted and I can recall thinking how nice a man he was and how he done so much for charity.

    I wasn’t the only one as he was very popular with the British public and an example to be revered.

    After he died witnesses and evidence proved him guilty of offences that those of us who liked him found hard to believe but they don’t strip people of knighthoods for no good reasons and facts are facts.

    Truth followed him to the grave which proves my mothers point that we cannot bury them.

    A person can fool us by their words and actions but their not fooling God and He is a just God.

    But let justice roll down like waters, and righteousness like an everflowing stream.” Amos 5:24:

    Beloved says:
    November 24, 2020 at 12:12 pm
    Words actions intent perceptions

    My “what a tangled mess we weave” sometimes.

    My mothers words come back to me today with greater clarification in seeing that God knows just how to untangle the mess we weave.

  180. poohpity says:

    My youngest son is suffering with the Covid virus. He is in CA. His fiance, my step mother and two other adult grandchildren also have it but it seems to have hit my son the hardest could you please keep him/them in your prayers? Their Thanksgiving will probably be being grateful just for being alive.

    My oldest son and his wife were tested last Wednesday after visiting them the weekend before with both testing negative and for that I am thankful. His wife works in the hospital in labor/delivery so she is on the front lines and they take every precaution against the virus.

    I have so many things to be thankful for and gratitude can sure change a person’s heart attitude about many things. We certainly are blessed to have a personal relationship with our God, the most valuable thing we have.

  181. poohpity says:

    Because of all the co-morbidity things I have I will not be spending Thanksgiving with my family but I will be picking up the Thanksgiving meal for my neighbor and myself because she suffers with a lot of co-morbidity things herself from Village Inn Restaurant. Yea no dishes to wash or pain to deal with by cooking.

    I am thankful for facetime so my family can see each other at least for the Holiday.

    This holiday will be a lonely time for many in our nation and around the world please join me in prayers for them to find comfort in the Lord.

  182. bubbles says:

    Pooh, praying for your sons right now.

  183. Beloved says:

    Prayers for you and your family Pooh

  184. Beloved says:

    Dear Steve
    Hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving! I thought of you after listening to a sermon on trials because you ask “why”. Spurgeon says trials work a spiritual hardiness that can’t be earned in ease. Trials remove the chaff of error, hypocrisy, and doubt leaving genuine Christian character. Enough said.
    Joyce

  185. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Joyce, I will have a wonderful Thanksgiving day tomorrow. Every day Matt is still with me is a wonderful day and of course Glenna.

    God already told me why as well as over my lifetime given me prophetic glimpses of my life. the trials are always going to be there, it is faith that steels the spirit and God’s grace that carries me over and through them.

    It isn’t my trials that hurt me, it is the suffering of loved ones that hurts the more.

    And that is a tougher struggle to watch and not be able to remove from them.

    I too wish you a good day tommrow and every day.

    Steve

  186. Beloved says:

    Thank you Steve I wondered if it was Matt’s troubles that caused you pain. It is so hard watching suffering- I remember as a new Christian asking God to take away a dear friends pain and suffering and give it to me! So naive and misunderstanding I was then that each must bear their own load of suffering as it is given and allowed for spiritual healing. We can come alongside to help but not do what Jesus already did on the cross!

    Thanksgiving alone as usual but searching for good turkey casserole recipes which I enjoy more than plain turkey! Might pick up a pie slice if I go to the store today. So much to be thankful for isn’t there!!!

  187. SFDBWV says:

    I know this may sound a little over and above, but seeing the suffering of others hurts as well. I hate seeing little children suffering cancer or birth defects. I hate seeing the mentally ill and crippled people suffer. People who die in the worst of conditions.

    And not that anyone deserves such things, but I hate especially seeing these things happen to the best of human kind.

    I just don’t get it sometimes and in ignorant desperation ask God why.

    I am sorry Joyce you are alone. Are you allowed to have a dog or cat there where you live? Though not another human being, they do give love and comfort.

    Be blessed.

    Steve

  188. Beloved says:

    Yes I have neighbors I regularly share coffee with but not on holidays. I have a wonderful cat who I believe was raised with dogs as she acts just like one! Loves to have her belly rubbed and purrs like crazy! Follows me from room to room and always sits wherever I sit. She’s a hoot! When I worked I always volunteered to stay with my clients on holidays as many often had no family to celebrate with. Since retired I’m alone but I’m fine, really. Jesus gives me purpose and strength to endure emotions, hope for myself and all who have trusted Jesus for salvation. As well as many to pray for.
    Blessed,
    Joyce

  189. jeff1 says:

    Our praise we are bringing
    With hearts of thanksgiving.
    With joy and with singing
    We thank You, O Lord!
    Your goodness surrounds us.
    Your power astounds us.
    Our wonder abounds as
    We thank You, O Lord!
    Behind and before us,
    You heal and restore us.
    Your love evermore is
    Our strength and our song.
    Our praise we are bringing
    With hearts of thanksgiving.
    With joy and with singing
    We thank You, O Lord!

    For laughter and living,
    Receiving and giving,
    For love so uplifting,
    We thank You, O Lord!
    So freely You bless us.
    You daily refresh us
    Through people so precious.
    We thank You, O Lord!
    For tenderly caring,
    For guiding and sharing,
    Forgiving, forbearing
    Through all of our needs,
    Our praise we are bringing
    With hearts of thanksgiving.
    With joy and with singing
    We thank You, O Lord!

  190. Beloved says:

    Come, ye thankful people, come,
    Raise the song of harvest-home!
    All is safely gathered in,
    Ere the winter storms begin:
    God our Maker doth provide
    For our wants to be supplied;
    Come to God’s own temple, come,
    Raise the song of harvest-home!

    We ourselves are God’s own field,
    Fruit unto His praise to yield;
    Wheat and tares together sown
    Unto joy or sorrow grown.
    First the blade and then the ear,
    Then the full corn shall appear;
    Grant, O Harvest Lord, that we
    Wholesome grain and pure may be.

    For the Lord our God shall come,
    And shall take His harvest home;
    From His field shall purge away
    All that doth offend that day:
    Give His angels charge at last
    In the fire the tares to cast;
    But the fruitful ears to store
    In His garner evermore.

    Then, thou Church triumphant, come,
    Bring the song of harvest-home;
    All are safely gathered in,
    Free from sorrow, free from sin,
    There, for ever purified,
    In God’s garner to abide;
    Come, ten thousand angels, come,
    Raise the glorious harvest-home!

  191. street says:

    17 Whatever you do in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks through Him to God the Father. Colossians 3

  192. Beloved says:

    Hope you have a wonderful Thanksgiving street.

  193. Beloved says:

    A very happy Thanksgiving to you Mart as well!

  194. bullwinkle11 says:

    Happy Thanksgiving all of you. So thankful that there is a place such as this to lift each other, to share our joys and our struggles.
    Praying for your family Pooh.
    Great to hear from the Ape again. There are many that come here each day to view yet not comment. Let’s keep building each other up in the Lord.

  195. poohpity says:

    Not just words but the actions that follow in a faith lived life whether it be from “Silent Films, Transcripts, and Talkies.”. It seems that words are just as important as the actions that follow those words otherwise the words are empty and hollow.

    1 Thess 1: We always thank God for all of you and pray for you constantly. 3 As we pray to our God and Father about you, we think of your faithful work, your loving deeds, and the enduring hope you have because of our Lord Jesus Christ.

    4 We know, dear brothers and sisters, that God loves you and has chosen you to be his own people. 5 For when we brought you the Good News, it was not only with words but also with power, for the Holy Spirit gave you full assurance that what we said was true. And you know of our concern for you from the way we lived when we were with you. 6 So you received the message with joy from the Holy Spirit in spite of the severe suffering it brought you. In this way, you imitated both us and the Lord. 7 As a result, you have become an example to all the believers in Greece—throughout both Macedonia and Achaia.

    8 And now the word of the Lord is ringing out from you to people everywhere, even beyond Macedonia and Achaia, for wherever we go we find people telling us about your faith in God. We don’t need to tell them about it, 9 for they keep talking about the wonderful welcome you gave us and how you turned away from idols to serve the living and true God. 10 And they speak of how you are looking forward to the coming of God’s Son from heaven—Jesus, whom God raised from the dead. He is the one who has rescued us from the terrors of the coming judgment.

    Having a heart of gratitude and thanksgiving for all the great things God has blessed us with from the stars in the sky to the depths of the oceans can turn this day into a praise filled occasion. Rejoice in the Lord always and in all ways.

  196. jeff1 says:

    I rejoice in Your purpose today
    Though the end may feel so far away.
    I find peace in the love on Your face
    And rejoice in Your purpose today.

    I remember that You are the Lord,
    And I feast on each promise I’ve heard.
    What a strength when I stand on Your Word
    And remember that You are the Lord.

    Though confusion and struggle are all I can see
    And I wrestle alone with my pain,
    Lord, I know You are working this all for the best,
    And my suffering is never in vain.

    I rejoice in Your purpose today
    Though the end may feel so far away.
    I find peace in the love on Your face
    And rejoice in Your purpose today

  197. Beloved says:

    He Leadeth Me

    He leadeth me, O blessed thought
    O words with heavenly comfort fraught
    Whate’er I do, where’er I be
    Still ’tis God’s hand that leadeth me
    Sometimes mid scenes of deepest gloom
    Sometimes where Eden’s bowers bloom
    By waters still, over troubled sea
    Still ’tis His hand that leadeth me
    He leadeth me, He leadeth me
    By His own hand He leadeth me
    His faithful follower I would be
    For by His hand He leadeth me
    Lord, I would clasp thine hand in mine
    Nor ever murmur nor repine
    Content, whatever lot I see
    Since ’tis thine hand that leadeth me
    He leadeth me, He leadeth me
    By His own hand He leadeth me
    His faithful follower I would be
    For by His hand He leadeth me
    And when my task on earth is done
    When by thy grace the victory’s won
    Even death’s cold wave I will not flee
    Since God through Jordan leadeth me
    He leadeth me, He leadeth me
    By His own hand He leadeth me
    His faithful follower I would be
    For by His hand He leadeth me
    His faithful follower I would be
    For by His hand He leadeth me
    For by His hand He leadeth me

    Songwriters: William B. Bradbury / Cynthia Dobrinski

  198. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    I’m so grateful to have some time to chat with you. ((HAPPY THANKSGIVING/TURKEY DAY)) to all on this blog and everywhere in the world! I pray that you all will truly enjoy your day, no matter if it’s spent alone, with your immediate family or entire family. It’s such a bountiful and abundant blessing to know where our help and protection comes from. It comes from the mighty hand of God! Wow… as we look back over all that has taken place in this “fast-moving” year, I’m sure you would agree with me that we have much to be thankful for. And we will never forget this year of double digits as we are forever changed (on varying levels) by the happenings that occurred in it.
    Steve, your chocolate chip cookies, homemade stuffing (or dressing) with all of the fixings sounds so good! Am wondering how many people will be feasting on traditional cuisine? I bought some vegan stuffing (on sale), creamed spinach and some sweet potatoes for my T.G. meal (forgot the cranberry sauce), and like, Beloved, I won’t spend it with family members this year due to COVID guidelines.

    I want to comment on a thought you shared, Steve…

    “For whatever reason the thread of conversation just seems not to be able to gel or continue a continuity of thought.

    Am wondering if it is because we all have our own issues and they drive our conversation or even quiet them?”

    I think the conversation changes because, on any given day, any one of us could be in need of prayer. So, we share our prayer request. And, while we all enjoy sharing our thoughts on Mart’s blog topic, we also want to share other things about the goings-on in our lives. Especially, when we sense that we’re conversing with like-minded people. We want to talk to people who understand and can relate to what we’re enduring in our human experience. Case in point, pooh shared that her youngest son has COVID, and she requested prayer (prayed for your son, pooh). Well, I know someone who has COVID, and she’s in the hospital (I welcome your prayers on her behalf). She was taken there yesterday via ambulance, and she’s still there. I don’t know how she’s doing. So, pooh and I have something in common.

    I think situations like that or people dropping in to converse who don’t normally blog here, and other conversations that we deem important take the conversation off topic. And you’re right, Steve, in saying that some, if not most, of the off topic conversations happen because we’re believers in Jesus Christ and because we’re filled with the Holy Spirit. Our relationship with God and our need to share it is probably the number one reason why the conversation goes off topic.

    We all love to talk about and share with others what we’ve learned and experienced in our walk with God. All for now… I hope to write more later.

    ps. Thank you, jeff1, for the encouraging songs/poems that you shared in this blog.

    1 CORINTHIANS 15

    60 degrees with plenty of sunshine in my neck of the woods…

    LOVE to all,
    Regina

  199. Beloved says:

    Happy Thanksgiving to you Regina, bratimus, ChrisB, and any others I’ve forgotten. May you enjoy the peacefulness of gratitude.

  200. jeff1 says:

    Thank you, Regina, I hope that they comfort or encourage others as they do myself and happy thanksgiving to all.

  201. Beloved says:

    Thank you Viv

    Thankfulness enlarges the heart.
    David Mains

  202. bratimus says:

    Happy Thanksgiving to all

    May it be blessed

    In Jesus Christ name

    Bratimus

  203. SFDBWV says:

    Which do you think is better, leaving some Scripture a mystery or adopting a translation that makes sense to you?

    In Mart’s opening thoughts he stated that a silent movie without explanation would leave a lot to the imagination.

    But what happens when we have, as he put, a transcript of what He said?

    It too can be a silent movie in our minds that we fill in the blanks with a plethora of ideas that satisfies.

    The red flags that arise in my heart, I have come to recognize as the still small voice of the Holy Spirit. Though a quiet voice, quite alarming and overpowering in its interruption.

    Here I go once again to that Book of Job. Job stands fast in that he did nothing wrong in deserving what had become of his fate. Except for the explanation given to us the reader of Job; it seems God never explained to Job why He allowed such destruction in Job’s life.

    The whole story then is about Job’s friends trying to answer the mystery in a fashion that satisfies them all the while Job saying they were wrong as he was innocent.

    God tells Job that his friends were indeed wrong and for Job to pray for them. Why? Why pray for them? Because they were wrong in their interpretation of events?

    Apparently it would have been better for Job’s friends to leave the matter of why this happened to Job a mystery then try and explain it and adopt a false interpretation.

    So in the mixture of Mart’s possibilities a silent movie, a stark transcript void of action would leave us without accurate interpretation from Jesus as teacher.

    Jesus the teacher will open our hearts and minds to the meaning of Scripture at a time we are open to receive it when we are ready to understand. Only the indwelling of the Holy Spirit in our beings can know when that time is right.

    It is all very personal.

    In the meantime should we accept the interpretations of others because it sounds right? Or should we leave it a mystery until God is ready to reveal it to us when our heart is ripe and ready?

    I don’t know why Jesus had to leave in order for the Holy Spirit to come, but I am thankful that all things worked out just as God intended so that He could.

    That indwelling of the Holy Spirit is what will raise us up in that last day whether in the grave or in the field.

    45 degrees and cloudy.

    Steve

  204. poohpity says:

    Steve, the answer to your why question about Jesus leaving so the Holy Spirit could come is found in scripture in the Book of John when Jesus prayed for those left behind when He would leave to go to the Father. John 14-17

    It seems Jesus was limited to who He could comfort and teach to those immediately around Him(the few) but the Holy Spirit is not limited by the physical here and now as Jesus was so it may be that the Spirit is farther reaching or has no boundaries to reach the many.

  205. poohpity says:

    It also seems that when one language is translated in to another language the meaning sometimes has a bump or looses it’s flavor. Now a days with more study in the different languages to get a closer representation of the original they get closer but the only way to actually know the real meaning is to read the bible in it’s original languages. Like the word Adios we take it to mean goodbye but if translated accurately it the letter (a) means (to) and (dios) means God.

  206. jeff1 says:

    In Your Spirit we have tasted
    More than mind can understand:
    All the depths of every promise,
    All the garden once began,
    All Your riches, all Your wisdom,
    All Your love and all its wealth,
    All the fullness of Your giving
    In this giving of Yourself.

    All our sin and all its bondage,
    All the fear and curse of death
    Now are conquered in Christ Jesus.
    Now we share His holy breath.
    Daily walking in His Spirit,
    Step by step in love’s pure light,
    We are heirs with Christ our brother,
    Breathing here His risen life.

    In Christ Jesus what can harm us,
    What divide us from Your love?
    Any suffering? Any power
    Deep below or high above?
    Nothing present, nothing future –
    You secure us by Your Word.
    Father, none can separate us
    From Your love in Christ our Lord!

  207. narrowpathseeker says:

    I came here to share a recent miracle of a sort from which I was Convicted, Humbled, and believe I am undergoing(far from complete) a transformation from unintentional rebel rouser to peacemaker. While I found the subject matter in line with the mission of transition I also found that there have been no comments for over two weeks…perhaps I am intruding on a period of silence… if so please do not post this. I will come back at a later date.

  208. Beloved says:

    Pearl so glad to see you here again. Joyce

  209. street says:

    lost in translation
    the written word get to be argued over what is said and understood. Jesus seem to specialize in stories. it would be very hard to change their meaning. most tend to ignore them. yet hidden but available for all to see if they are willing. been thinking of the head and a single hair not passing away.

  210. Beloved says:

    “watch what they do”

    I’ve been thinking all day about Jesus demeanor when confronted by the Pharisees who had a woman caught in adultery. John8:1-11. Do you see what I see? Do you hear what He said? There is so much in this story. Just thought I’d bring it up to weigh with what Mart said.

  211. Beloved says:

    What I see is patience humility and love. What I hear is patience humility love and hope for all in this time of grace.

  212. SFDBWV says:

    Looks like folks are both intrigued and confused by Pearl’s comment. Awaiting further elaboration…

    Me too.

    Also wondering about Foreverblessed, as we haven’t heard from her in a while.

    Hope and pray things are ok there.

    Steve

  213. foreverblessed says:

    Good morning Steve, thanks for uourt concern, everything is OK here, well except some head problem, but lots of work in the house, the workman comes early in the morning, and when he is gone at 5, I am quite busy cleaning up the dust, to make it liveable for the night.
    And I have lost the thread here, do not know what to comment.
    Not that I have lost it for myself, but to share it here is another thing.
    I hope you all had a good Thanksgiving day.
    Here the Thanksgiving is on a Sunday, Thanksgiving for the crops. Churches keep it.
    But not a big dinner at home.
    The big family event is on December 5, Saint Nicolaas. But this year everything is scaled down.
    Today I have some vacuuming to do. White powder all in the living room, from the plastering in the kitchen.
    Thanking God for everything.
    Street have that bible verse, I had seen it on bible gateway that morning, and it was with me all the day, doing all these chores in the house.

    I was thinking about Jesus, He was human, was travelling through the country, with 12 disciples with Him. He did not worry about where to sleep, what to eat,
    “I will put my trust in Him” Hebrews 2:13
    Jesus absolutely trusted in His Father in heaven.
    He was on a mission. A grant scale mission, the biggest ever task that was to be performed on earth;
    Redeeming all of mankind.
    Thinking about that mission and then cleaning up the dust.

    Be blessed today, keeping our eyes fixed on Jesus..

  214. SFDBWV says:

    I am glad things are ok Foreverblessed, I had forgotten about your cutting through your stone wall. Yes masonry work can be dirty.

    Each time I think of stone masons I am reminded of a story here in our little town of well over a hundred plus years ago.

    Our town is situated on the North Branch of the Potomac River and so just across the river from town is Garrett County Maryland, we being in West Virginia.

    There on the Maryland side, in full view of town, is a beautiful two story stone house that, as I said, was built over a hundred years ago, the stone erected by talented Italian immigrant craftsmen.

    While the house was being constructed one of the masons fell from the scaffolding to his death. His friends buried him in our cemetery and carved a monument out of solid sandstone for him. Salvador was loved and still remembered as a result.

    His monument not only unique and beautiful, but special.

    Life is filled with such stories and each and every one precious to our Lord and so to us.

    40 degrees and cloudy.

    Steve

  215. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    I hope you/yours are well. BGg, I’m well and family too.

    Steve, I was thinking about your comment that God never explained to Job why he had to suffer. Well, God did explain to the devil why He chose Job to suffer—Job was a very righteous and holy man and God knew that he would pass the test of severe suffering, sacrifice and blamelessness—and, after Job passed the test, God restored all that he lost.

    You also said, “I don’t know why Jesus had to leave in order for the Holy Spirit to come, but I am thankful that all things worked out just as God intended so that He could.”

    And your words brought to mind John 14 (I think pooh referred you to the same chapter)…

    John 14:1-4, ERV
    1) Jesus said, “Don’t be troubled. Trust in God, and trust in me. 2) There are many rooms in my Father’s house. I would not tell you this if it were not true. I am going there to prepare a place for you. 3) After I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back. Then I will take you with me, so that you can be where I am. 4) You know the way to the place where I am going.” Jesus explained–in these verses of scripture–that He has some work to do on our behalf, and that’s why he had to leave.

    Hello, narrowpathseeker. I remember you too from “days of BTA blogging gone by,” and I, too, welcome you back.

    53 degrees and partly cloudy (with an 80% chance of rain) in my neck of the woods…

    1 CORINTHIANS 15

    Love to all,
    Regina

  216. Beloved says:

    Hello forever I’d been wondering about you also but thought you were traveling maybe. I’m sure the powder doesn’t make your head feel good. Such a mess to deal with! My husband and I built a house and first moved into it when it was bare 4 walled walkout basement with a sink and a toilet only. We wanted to use every penny on home construction and not rent elsewhere. It was a constant mess for about 4 years until all the carpet and painting were completed. Those days seem so long ago but precious memories of hard work and better times in our relationship with a nice house in the end. Yet how temporary as we divorced and sold it a few years later. Things and people come and go but Jesus our Friend remains forever! Eternity is what matters I find out more and more each day I get older and heading toward sure destruction of this body. It’s wearing out- just like the house. Paul says we are walking tents!

    I was just reading that Jesus taught in the temple during the day then slept on the Mount of Olives at night.
    “ 37 Now [c]during the day He was teaching in the temple, but [d]at evening He would go out and spend the night on the [e]mountain that is called [f]Olivet. 38 And all the people would get up very early in the morning to come to Him in the temple to listen to Him.

    Footnotes:
    c Luke 21:37 Lit days
    d Luke 21:37 Lit nights
    e Luke 21:37 Or hill
    f Luke 21:37 Or Olive Grove

    The son of man has nowhere to lay his head”, I remember. So blessed to know Him, Jesus my Savior. And the others on this blog as well!
    Joyce

  217. Beloved says:

    Hello Regina did your move go ok?

  218. Beloved says:

    38 And all the people would get up very early in the morning to come to Him in the temple to listen to Him.

    I think of Steve an early riser going out under the stars to commune with God in His creation and listen to Him.

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