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One Thought!?

AW Tozer (1897-1963) famously claimed in The Knowledge of the Holy that “What comes into our minds when we think about God is the most important thing about us.”

While recently reviewing the book to see if I could find more context for the quote, I was reminded of how the Apostle Paul described his first visit to Corinth. Deeply concerned about what had happened to his readers since then, he recalls how determined he had been to ground them in one thought. He writes, “I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. (1Cor 2:2-5).

No wonder Paul also remembers the “fear and trembling” he experienced in those early days. Imagine trying to convince members of the local synagogue to read their Scriptures in a way that would enable them to see their long-awaited Savior and King— in the hands of Roman executioners.

Imagine the fear and trembling we too might have felt if, like Paul, we had come to believe that the way we had read our Scriptures had made us part of the problem Jesus exposed. What if, like Paul, we had come to see that we were not better than our enemies, but worse? What if it was our own group that had unwittingly ruined the reputation of our God?

Wasn’t that Paul’s story? If so, could it be part of the reason he recalled in his letter that— at the heart of all that now needed to be said—was the painful admission of persons who thought they had been defending the law, faith, and nation of their God— while being carried along by all of the partisan thoughts that crowded into their minds when they thought of Him?




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182 Responses to “One Thought!?”

  1. SFDBWV says:

    First of all let me say to Foreverblessed I am praying for your son to be healed of this virus in the name of the Lord Jesus of Nazareth the Christ.

    Now as to Mart’s new thoughts…As I think about the full concept of this idea of A.W. Tozer, I must realize the difference between what immediate thought comes to mind and what we think after giving a little time to do so.

    I tend to have a snap response to things too often instead of taking a little time to think deeper. I think because once I begin to think or study on a matter too deeply too many other thoughts begin to crowd out my immediate response and I get off into too many tangents.

    My snap response to thinking about God is that He is my protector, provider, and sole source of hope.

    It is when I think further that His mystery begins to rise. The mystery of the disappointments in life that lead me to understand that the obvious isn’t always the full story. That there is the mystery of having the faith to trust that what I don’t know or understand is what remains, even that being a gift from God.

    Dealing with disappointment when trusting God isn’t pleasant nor easy. And in some way our ultimate test of faith. Yet even saying that makes me want to ask why should a loving Father disappoint His beloved children just to test their faith in Him?

    I have read from certain evangelists that once a person is converted to the faith they are not then to be abandoned by those responsible for introducing them to Christ. They need to be aided and nurtured by those same people or person as they grow up enough and receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

    The churches Paul started were no different. Left to themselves their thoughts took them to too many distractions and directions.

    We individually are also no different, any more than are we different than those seven churches mentioned in Revelation 2:1-29 KJV and Revelation 3:1-22 KJV.

    Wet heavy snow this morning that started around 5:30 am.


  2. poohpity says:

    I do not think God tests our faith for Him but for us to see ourselves whether we have faith in Him or not. Whether it is just words one says or whether we actually do have faith in the power, goodness, majesty and love of our God. Like saying, “you say you have faith in me(God) but yet you act as if I am not even here for/with you and do not have your best in mind.” God already knows our hearts and minds so He has no need to test our faith unless it is for us to see whether we really have any faith at all or we just say the words with no actions behind them.

    Romans 12: Do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewal of your mind, that by testing you may discern what is the will of God, what is good and acceptable and perfect.

    3 For by the grace given to me I say to everyone among you not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think, but to think with sober judgment, each according to the measure of faith that God has assigned.

    Paul warned often about listening to those who put anything above God that would lead them (us) astray by false teaching. He seemed to know what he was talking about because that was the experience in his life from Pharisee to servant of Christ.

    Often we seem to listen to all kinds of voices yet fail to listen for the voice of God because of our preconceived notions and biases about who we think God is and what it is He “should” do for us so when he doesn’t perform how we think He should then we get disappointed. Having faith that He is with us and no matter what He will do what is the best interest of those He loves. Isaiah 55:8-9

  3. Beloved says:

    Oh my, Mart, what a question! Cuts deeply for me. What if? I don’t want to lead anyone astray. Need to really ponder this. Thanks.

  4. poohpity says:

    discovertheword this week discusses this very topic.

  5. bratimus says:

    “I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. (1Cor 2:2-5)

    With his verse, the question could become, why are we Teaching scripture?

    For Christ or one self?

    In Christ Jesus name


  6. poohpity says:

    Bratimus you asked, “Why are we teaching scripture?” Because God through the Holy Spirit has given that task to those gifted in that area to share the Good news and how will people hear unless someone tells them.

    Romans 10: How then can they call on the One in whom they have not believed? And how can they believe in the One of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone to preach? 15And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”

  7. poohpity says:

    But it seems very important the motive behind it as you also asked, “For Christ or one self”? Very beneficial to think on that so that we can evaluate our own heart.

  8. poohpity says:

    Luke 9:50

  9. bratimus says:

    The question I asked wasn’t to find the answer in scripture.

    It was a question fro more towards self examination.

    For Christ or for one’s self?

    I wasn’t looking too be answered, I already know that I’m not here to teach scriptures or preach preach scriptures.

    I might warn adn guide people in the right direction, I’m not going to teach or preach scripture.

    I already no my answer>

    In Christ Jesus name


  10. bratimus says:

    I already have my answer*

  11. jeff1 says:

    When I think about God I think about suffering as the Bible to me is full of suffering and so it seems to go with the terrority.

    The consequences of sin are always with us and the reason Christ went to the Cross and so there is no reason not to expect suffering in this world.

    The difficulty comes when we try to interpret scripture to fit our own explanations of mysteries and disappointments in life and we do so with biases and preconceived thinking that overlooks human imperfection which is evident in us all.

    I wondered why my dad would point me to Christ while my friends were more likely to quote me scripture and I see now that they believed they were defending God wheras my dad did not believe God needed defending.

  12. bubbles says:

    Since sin is sin; how could we be worse than our enemies. All sin is horrible in the eyes of God, so aren’t we all the same as sinning? I don’t understand that.

    The more I live, the more I know I don’t have any idea about anything at all. God’s ways are above my ways and thoughts and nothing about Him makes sense to me any longer. What is the point in praying if He is going to do whatever He wants to anyway? And if we ask Him for something and He gives it to us, when it’s not His will, it will be worse anyway. I just don’t understand God in any way any longer about anything. We all suffer because of sin and living in a sinful world and our old nature is still in us. We all suffer and innocent children are killed and innocent animals suffer and die due to stupidity and cruelty of humans. They didn’t ‘ deserve that. I just don’t get anything.

  13. bubbles says:

    And, Mr Tozer, shouldn’t we be more concerned what God thinks about US?

  14. Beloved says:

    In anticipation

    1 O come, O come, Immanuel,
    and ransom captive Israel
    that mourns in lonely exile here
    until the Son of God appear.

    Rejoice! Rejoice! Immanuel
    shall come to you, O Israel.

    2 O come, O Wisdom from on high,
    who ordered all things mightily;
    to us the path of knowledge show
    and teach us in its ways to go. Refrain

    3 O come, O come, great Lord of might,
    who to your tribes on Sinai’s height
    in ancient times did give the law
    in cloud and majesty and awe. Refrain

    4 O come, O Branch of Jesse’s stem,
    unto your own and rescue them!
    From depths of hell your people save,
    and give them victory o’er the grave. Refrain

    5 O come, O Key of David, come
    and open wide our heavenly home.
    Make safe for us the heavenward road
    and bar the way to death’s abode. Refrain

    6 O come, O Bright and Morning Star,
    and bring us comfort from afar!
    Dispel the shadows of the night
    and turn our darkness into light. Refrain

    7 O come, O King of nations, bind
    in one the hearts of all mankind.
    Bid all our sad divisions cease
    and be yourself our King of Peace. Refrain

  15. street says:

    We all suffer because of sin and living in a sinful world and our old nature is still in us. We all suffer and innocent children are killed and innocent animals suffer and die due to stupidity and cruelty of humans. They didn’t ‘ deserve that. I just don’t get anything.

    God subjected the creation to futility. the creation never sinned against God, man did. God, true to His Word kept His promise to adam and eve. promising to bruise the head of the serpent while bruising the heel of the seed. yet He made new ones to the descendants of adam and eve.

    i too struggle with the suffering of people within the church, why Lord?!?! yet, i know God is blameless. i also believe God is not immune from suffering either. for me one part wants to surrender the other wants restoration. from what i have understood God can do much with little. it is best to come to Him for help. i wonder why it took 400 pluss years for an entire nation to call out to God for Help? even if He slay me i will trust Him.

  16. SFDBWV says:

    Who am I? Who are you? Why are we the way we are? What experience of life has fashioned us into our present state of mind? Who has influenced us? What books have we read? How far is the apple from the tree?

    All of these things have brought us to a point in how we think at any given time.

    What I say and believe today may be totally different tomorrow because of some yet unforeseen event or experience that changes the way I think or see or understand or relate.

    Mart wonders if we tarnish the reputation of God because of the way we see and so explain Him.

    The Bible explains that out of mankind God took one man and from his seed created an entire family of people through whom He would be exposed and re-introduced to mankind.

    The New Testament story explains how through the birth, death and resurrection of one man, God would be exposed and clearly introduced to all of mankind.

    The historically facts remain that the nation of Israel had many enemies, some from within their own family.

    These people believed that their Messiah would come and destroy all of their enemies. They were thinking of there and then, here and now enemies. Not the base reason they had enemies.

    Sin and separation from God was their true enemy, but they didn’t see it because of life and its troubles as they had to deal with every day.

    Jesus their true Messiah came to explain this and offer Himself as a way of defeating the true enemy of mankind.

    The problem though remains that people still have to deal with the here and now and their pressures of living in a broken world. As a result people see God from that base and so explain Him from their place in life at this time.

    The truth is that sometimes we are confused by what we read in Scripture. Sometimes they seem to contradict themselves. And of course there is no end to others ready to explain it for us from their perspective, not always ours.

    They do more harm to both God’s reputation and our Scripture health than they realize.

    Jesus said for us to come to Him as a little child. What is unique about a little child is that they are innocent, empty of prejudice and trusting.

    We most likely are not.

    It is these prejudices, guilt and caution that we bring along with our interpretations of Scripture that does both harm to God’s reputation and to the people around us.

    Caution rules the way we interact with others especially when we think we can speak for God. This is reflected in Job and how God viewed Job’s friends and warned of in learning that we must answer for ourselves in the judgement seat of Christ.

    How do we escape ourselves? Perhaps through the total surrender to Christ our failures listen to the Holy Spirit and sometimes just listen and say nothing. Another example from Job.

    20 degrees with snow on the ground and more to come tomorrow.


  17. jeff1 says:

    When we do not learn from history it repeats itself as my Rector as explained that you have to go back 400 years to understand why our Province is so messed up today.

    So men hand down their anger, disappointments and frustrations to the next generation and as our Rector would say because it has not been justly resolved the unrest continues from one generation to another.

    Bubbles sees it so clearly as sin is sin in God’s domain so unless anyone believes they are without sin we are all part of the problem.

    I think the question I should be asking is why should I not suffer if I believe and trust God then I know it is temporary and when I focus on Christ I find the peace that surpasses understanding.

    It seems to me that C. S. Lewis may well have a point when he says:

    If you read history you will find that the Christians who did most for the present world were precisely those who thought most of the next. It is since Christians have largely ceased to think of the other world that they have become so ineffective in this [one].

    God never promised me a rose garden not to my thinking anyway.

    Everybody wants to go to Heaven
    But nobody wants to die
    Everybody wants to go to Heaven
    But nobody wants to die

    Once upon a time there lived a man
    And his name was Isaac
    He walked with God, both day and night
    But he didn’t wanna die

    He cried, “Oh Lord, please let me live
    Death is close, I know”
    God smiled down on Isaac
    And gave him fifteen years to go

    Everybody wants to go to Heaven
    But nobody wants to die
    Lord, I wanna go to Heaven
    But I don’t wanna die

    So, I long for the day when I’ll have new birth
    Still I love the livin’ here on Earth
    Everybody wants to go to Heaven
    But nobody wants to die

    When Jesus lived here on this Earth
    He knew his father’s plan
    He knew that he must give his life
    To save the soul of man

    When Judas had betrayed him
    His father heard him cry
    He was brave until his death
    But he didn’t wanna die

    Everybody wants to go to Heaven
    But nobody wants to die
    Lord, I wanna go to Heaven
    But I don’t wanna die

    So, I long for the day when I’ll have new birth
    Still, I love the livin’ here on Earth
    Everybody wants to go to Heaven
    But nobody wants to die

    Everybody wants to go to Heaven
    But nobody wants to die

  18. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you for your prayers, they are greatly appreciated!
    Our son is doing bv better, he had a reasonably good night, no fever. But the coughing is worse, and he has concentration problems.
    May Jesus be his Savior and Friend, that is my prayer.

    He said the covid ward us growing in the hospital, and so are the deaths.
    I asked him who the people are that die, and he said immediately without having to think much about it:
    Overweight men, and especially the older ones.
    So I asked him: how come that pres. Trump and Guliani came away so easily. He answered that it was because of the treatment with anti-bodies in a very early stage of the illness.
    And anti-bodies are rare, they are hard to produce in bulk.
    So they got special treatment that is not for the mass of people.

  19. foreverblessed says:

    Very good question of Bubbles.
    What does God think of us⁉️

    God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoso believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
    John 3:16

  20. foreverblessed says:

    What does Mart want to make us think about?

    What we think about God, says more be about us then about God.

    Because of my tainted vision, even after so many years of having believed in Jesus, how much is my heart changed, how much is my thinking changed.

    The Word of God says that the blood of Jesus cleanses my conscience, the everflowing cleansing stream of the Holy Spirit, let me not hinder His streams by my own thinking, and that is where obedience is important, where the Holy Spirit has shown me deeper things I better move with Him:
    Blessing those that have hurt me.

    When I share that with people in my church, hardly anyone agrees, hug comes with a reason not to do it;
    How can you bless someone who is do evilit feels as if you bless the evil itself.
    God sees a person who is imprisoned in evil, and needs to be freed.
    Pray that deliverance over them.

    And see how much I myself have been delivered.

  21. foreverblessed says:

    Having grown up in a Christian cult church, I do feel with what Mart says about Paul: the anguish of thinking that you were serving God, and yet we’re so working against Him.
    Paul indeed called himself the worst of sinners, but….
    talked about God’s great mercy too!

    Mercy over justice
    That is God through Jesus’ Cross.

  22. jeff1 says:

    Where Could I Go but to the Lord
    Elvis Presley

    Living below, in this old sinful world
    Hardly a comfort can afford
    Striving alone to face temptation so
    Now won’t you tell me

    Where could I go but to the Lord
    Where could I go (could I go) oh where could I go (could I go)
    Seeking the refuge for my soul (for my soul)
    Needing a friend (needing a friend) to save me in the end (in the end)
    Won’t you tell me
    Where could I go but to the Lord

    Life here is grand with friends I love so dear
    Comfort I get from God’s own Word
    Yet when I face that chilling hand of death
    Won’t you tell me
    Where could I go but to the Lord

    Where could I go (could I go)
    Oh where could I go (could I go)
    Seeking the refuge for my soul (for my soul)
    Needing a friend (needing a friend)
    To save me in the end (in the end)
    Won’t you tell me
    Where could I go but to the Lord
    Where could I go but to the Lord

  23. poohpity says:

    Bartimus, forgive me I did not realize that your questions were rhetorical. I thought you may have been seeking.

    My beliefs about God go on just what I have experienced with Him. I have felt the experience of being forgiven and shown mercy and grace when I sure did not deserve it. I know what it is like now to have a choice and know the difference when I am thinking or acting to satisfy my sinful nature or to live out what Christ has done for me and His presence within me, also knowing how many times I still fail by listening to the flesh rather than the leading of the Spirit.

    I also know what it is like after being saved by grace then trying to please God by thinking I am morally superior to others sort of the opposite of what Paul did but God gently and patiently showed me I have no room to talk about anyone else because there is still so much work left to be done in my life.

    God also showed me that He answers all my prayers it may not be the answer I wanted nor how I wanted it answered however it is still answered and patiently revealed that I can trust Him by working with me until I come to the point of full submission to His leading because I am a rebel.

    The one thought that I struggle with the most do I really want justice and if I do that would mean that His justice would have to be shown in my life as well as those who I want justice shown to or would I rather want mercy and grace even for my enemies like was shown to me?

  24. poohpity says:

    Put your hand in the hand of the man who stilled the water;
    Put your hand in the hand of the man who calmed the sea.
    Take a look at yourself and you can look at others differently,
    By putting your hand in the hand of the man from Galilee.

    Every Time I look into the holy book I wanna tremble
    When I read about the part where the carpenter cleared the temple
    For the buyers and the sellers were no different fellers than what I profess to be,
    And it causes me shame to know I’m not the gal that I should be.

    Put your hand in the hand of the man who stilled the water;
    Put your hand in the hand of the man who calmed the sea.
    Take a look at yourself and you can look at others differently,
    By putting your hand in the hand of the man from Galilee.

    Momma taught me how to pray before I reached the age of seven,
    When I’m down on my knees, that’s when I’m close to heaven.
    Daddy lived his life with two kids and a wife; you do what you must do
    But he showed me enough of what it takes to get you through.

    Put your hand in the hand of the man who stilled the water;
    Put your hand in the hand of the man who calmed the sea.
    Take a look at yourself and you can look at others differently,
    By putting your hand in the hand of the man from Galilee…

  25. Beloved says:

    Psalm22 is especially comforting when hurting for ourselves or others.

  26. jeff1 says:

    I have always envied steadfastness of mind as I am much more prone to wandering thoughts that can disturb my peace of mind.

    That is why I find myself listening more to what soothes my mind rather than the noise of the world that can disrupt it.

    The world is so full of activity and I find myself thankful that I have reached retirement age and feel empathy for those who still have to embrace it.

    The mystery of how God is everywhere I find comforting today as I believe I see Him in people, places and nature and its those memories that will help me erase the ones that tie me to fear or doubts about God that I have developed in the recess of my mind.

    I think it would be fair to say that I will always feel closer to God in my heart than I ever will in my head if that makes sense to anyone.

  27. street says:

    if you being evil know how to give good gift to your children how much more you Father in heaven give good gifts to His children that ask? what would you ask for? does what we think about God say more about ourselves than God?

  28. Beloved says:

    Oh street I’ve always had a hard time with that verse but finally settled on the universality of “fatherly goodness”. The principle, not taking the verse as a failure on my fathers part. But there is still some sadness about what could have been although I don’t dwell on it but look to Jesus for what will be in the new heavens and new earth 🙏❤️ Come to think of it all failures on the part of parents will be moot. The in-between here and now is filled with tension but Heavenly reward awaits!

  29. street says:

    He restores my soul. to what?

  30. Beloved says:

    Good question- to God?

  31. Beloved says:

    I was just thinking how Jesus taught that all physical relationships must be left in order to follow Him on the pathway to restoration. There is no marriage in heaven. No procreation needed there. He longs for us whom He loves so much to be united with Him. Like a Father to a prodigal. We were all prodigals at one time or another.

  32. jeff1 says:

    There is a programme I watch called the ‘blame game’ which is comedian’s ‘taking the mick’ more often than not it is politicians who are at the butt of the jokes and it is often hilarious how they portray them but what I have noticed is that they have taken the weakness of the politician i.e. there is one here who is into getting exotic holidays free and so they will elaborate on that in a humorous way.

    My friend and I go to see them live when they appear in the theatre here and we have often said that they never run out of material to use because our politicians are so good and providing them with it.

    I am thinking of how easy it is to see the flaws in others especially those of celebrity status but my dad taught me that it is much more difficult to see the flaws in my own nature unless I am self examining and as I read this quote from C. S. Lewis:

    Those who do not think about their own sins make up for it by thinking incessantly about the sins of others.

    I see not just the wisdom of his words but the truth that I so easily overlooked because my focus was on others and their weaknesses and not on my own.

    The more I think about it the more I see that my own flaws are the most difficult to see especially if I think I am doing all right compared to others and I think that is why my dad believed in focusing on Christ and His suffering for ‘him’ personally as it kept him from any notions that he was in anyway more deserving than the next man when he knew he was not.

    One of the hardest lessons God has had to teach me is Humility and yet daily I was in the presence of a man who understood the discipline of the most rarest of virtues.

    Yet, I was blinded because I had my mind on the evil that others do! Blinded to my own sins because there were others who seemed to me to be doing worse!

    Again I quote Lewis who says: In our own case we accept excuses too easily; in other people’s, we do not accept them easily enough.

    To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you.

    Sadly, today I see how I have failed to forgive as I have been forgiven and that is because I have been too focused on others sins while blinded to my own.

    Jesus It’s Me Again

    Lately Lord I almost feel like dyin’
    I wake up like a child alone at night
    Sometimes Lord I just can’t keep from cryin’

    And I can’t find the strength to carry on
    Jesus it’s me again down on my knees again
    Asking you please again reach out your hand
    Jesus it’s me again I’m on my knees again
    Asking you please again reach out your hand

    Jesus it’s me again I’m down on my knees
    I’m asking you to reach out your hand
    From time to time I try to find a reason

    To talk to you a time or two before
    But this time Lord it’s more than I can handle
    And I know I just can’t take it anymore
    Yes asking you please again reach out your hand

  33. SFDBWV says:

    “Fear and trembling”…It is no small wonder Paul felt both fear and trembled from it. He was raised in the tradition of knowing God as an eye for an eye God severely punishing any who disobeyed Him, even murmuring against Him.

    And so here he stood trying to explain that what generations of his fellow countrymen knew about God could now be seen in the life, death and resurrection of Jesus of Nazareth.

    That some of what their fathers and forefathers had instilled in them was incorrect.

    He was beaten and jailed for delivering that speech. Just as he had done to others himself before his historic encounter with Christ on the road to Damascus.

    Before his conversion to Jesus, he was certain he was doing God’s work and in concert with God’s will. After his conversion he was certain and confident he was doing God’s work and God’s will, but knowing he faced that same misplaced belief he himself was a party to.

    I would imagine he only felt out of danger from his fellow countrymen when he preached to the churches he had already established and was in the custody of Roman Centurion’s.

    Whom he always shown in a good light in his letters.

    Maybe because they always read his letters before sending them off to be delivered, or maybe because they had come to love Paul and accept Jesus because of Paul’s teaching.

    How many of us have at some point in time with our tongue or pen persecuted someone because they didn’t believe what we did? Only to learn that maybe they may have been right all along?

    Then again some never learn, because their minds are closed to learning any more than they are capable of. At that time.

    Are you so sure that you would crucify someone over a difference of opinion? This is what happened to Jesus of Nazareth and this is what some of us continue to do today to any who disagree with us.

    Snow starting to fall.


  34. poohpity says:

    What would you feel standing in the presence of God? I would have a reverent fear and tremble with joy and excitement. (Psalm 2:11) I think we can become complacent about what it truly means to be a child of God standing in His presence because our minds are so earthly focused we may not have even a glimpse or understanding what it means to me in the presence of God. Do you see how excited people get when they come in contact with a movie star or someone else who is very popular or stand in the presence of a King or Queen usually it is associated with fear and trembling and they have nothing on what it means to stand before our God.

    Turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in His wonderful face
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of His glory and grace

    O soul, are you weary and troubled?
    No light in the darkness you see?
    There’s light for a look at the Savior
    And life more abundant and free

    Through death into life everlasting
    He passed and we follow Him there
    O’er us sin no more hath dominion
    For more than conquerors we are

    Oh, turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in His wonderful face
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of His glory and grace

    His word shall not fail you, He promised
    Believe Him and all will be well
    Then go to a world that is dying
    His perfect salvation to tell

    Oh, turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in His wonderful face
    Oh, and the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of His glory and grace

  35. poohpity says:

    Viv, your comment this morning showed such growth and understanding.

  36. jeff1 says:

    Steve, I think there are still very varied views of God today and that tradition of an eye for an eye is still prevalent today.

    Speaking personally I find it is all too easy to take my eyes of Jesus and find I am picking up on the eye for an eye mentality because as a child I had learned it.

    Churches or religions are not necessarily Christ focused so the challenges that Paul faced are still there today as division is rife among believers and why we are so ineffective in the modern world to my understanding.

    If I am struggling to stay Christ focused myself then how can I expect others who have not been raised in the faith to achieve what I have not.

    But I’m just a soul whose intentions are good
    Oh Lord, please don’t let me be misunderstood

  37. jeff1 says:

    I do hope so, Pooh, as I it is very exhausting for me as I am a slow learner when it comes to God and my mind is very tired from the world and its shenanigans.

  38. jeff1 says:

    Beautiful, beautiful hymn Pooh.

  39. Beloved says:

    Turn your eyes upon Jesus-best thought we can have. Peace follows.

  40. Beloved says:

    He writes, “I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. 1Cor 2:2-5

  41. Beloved says:

    5 so that your faith might not rest in the wisdom of men but in the power of God.

  42. Beloved says:

    I just posted and it showed on this thread that it was there but now it’s gone? I got a very strange error report afterward. Maybe some issues with the site? In process of changes maybe. We’ll see if this shows up.

  43. poohpity says:

    When Moses asked God how he should deal with those who break laws or harm others how should they be punished and God replied that the punishment should fit the crime. So if someone intentionally pokes out the eye of someone their consequence should fit the crime thus an eye for an eye. If we now a days had the punishment that fit the crimes we may have less crime rather than just throwing people in jail with a warm place to sleep, three meals a day, television, recreation, clean clothes and so many other pleasures. So being in jail other than being locked up is better than what most had before they went to jail.

  44. poohpity says:

    Lately some states are even going as far as taking money from tax payers to pay the restitution for the criminal to the victim rather than them having do it before they can get off of probation after they get out of jail. No deterrents or penalties for crimes after one leaves the prison. Talk about promoting crime.

  45. SFDBWV says:

    In Saudi Arabia and other Islamic countries, every Friday they have public executions. Including cutting the hands off of thieves and yes beheading those found to be in violation of their religious laws.

    They cut out tongues, gauge out eyes and are especially unforgiving to women who they consider to be guilty of seducing their already married lovers. The sentence death, or at the least flogging.

    Odd that the men are usually let off easy, as it was the woman’s fault.

    Is that the society you think Jesus envisions for we Christians?

    It was the society that existed in Jerusalem until the Romans came and withheld Israel’s right to punish for their religious laws.

    And the one Jesus faced for for proclaiming to be the Great I Am.


  46. Beloved says:

    A woman was in danger of being stoned for adultery until Jesus confronted them with their own sin.

  47. poohpity says:

    Our God is a God of justice so when left to the court system which is what Moses was in those days because crimes where brought before him with more than just one witness to the crime and then Moses presented the person before God. Even when we are forgiven we still face consequences of what we have done.

    So because we are Christian’s when we break the law we should not face the legal system in which we live. It has nothing to do with religion but with justice and fairness. People themselves use the eye for an eye to justify retaliation rather than going through the court system. If you can not see that God had to institute a legal system for Moses who was guiding a million people chaos would have followed if there was nothing that happened to people when they intentionally hurt another person then there would be no lessons learned and they would just keep on hurting others there has to be deterrents.

    Sharia law has nothing at all to do with justice or fairness and can not be compared in anyway to the ways of God.

  48. Beloved says:

    Law and order has nothing to do with justice. It’s about keeping peace- order in society. Jesus sure upset the apple cart so to speak when He entered the picture! Even the “courts” of his day though knowing he’d done nothing wrong washed their hands of Him- literally- and let the people decide. But God knew this would be the case. Oh what a Savior!

  49. jeff1 says:

    With confidence we face the day,
    Rejoicing as we rise.
    Since You, O Lord, are sovereign King,
    With joy we lift our eyes.

    You reign in righteousness!
    You reign to heal and bless!
    Your reign is nothing less
    Than everlasting peace!

    All thanks, all praise, all glory be
    To You, O God Most High!
    All history sings of all You are,
    And heaven and earth reply:

    Your justice is forever sure.
    No enemy will stand,
    For You are wisdom, love, and power,
    And all is in Your hand.

  50. Beloved says:


  51. street says:

    Wasn’t that Paul’s story? If so, could it be part of the reason he recalled in his letter that— at the heart of all that now needed to be said—was the painful admission of persons who thought they had been defending the law, faith, and nation of their God— while being carried along by all of the partisan thoughts that crowded into their minds when they thought of Him?

    9 For I am the least of the apostles, unworthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace toward me was not in vain. On the contrary, I worked harder than any of them, though it was not I, but the grace of God that is with me. 11 Whether then it was I or they, so we preach and so you believed.

    paul, a man change on the road in road daylight.

    what was the difference?

  52. street says:

    paul, a man change on the road in road daylight.

    ops …..on the road in broad daylight.

  53. street says:

    Wasn’t that Paul’s story? If so, could it be part of the reason he recalled in his letter that— at the heart of all that now needed to be said—was the painful admission of persons who thought they had been defending the law, faith, and nation of their God— while being carried along by all of the partisan thoughts that crowded into their minds when they thought of Him?

    4 Jesus answered, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.’[b]”

    we are warned of adding to and taking away.

    i can see why fear and trembling is involved, yet love cast out fear…. bound by love.

    thinking of joshua and caleb

  54. foreverblessed says:

    Steve elaborated on the disciples who thought that Jesus would defeat the Romans come and restore Israel to a Kingdom and be the new King.

    That was the partisan belief.

    Mart had a topic about a book of Andy Stanley: Unhitched

    Getting unhitched from that partisan thinking. Jesus did not come for the physical restoration of Israel, not at that time at least. He wanted to save the whole world.

    In the devotion i read:


    While I was on earth, to the great number of those with whom I came in contact, Mine was a lost cause. Even My disciples only believed, half-doubting, half-wondering. When they all forsook Me and fled it was not so much fear of My enemies as the certainty that My Mission, however beautiful they thought it, had failed.

    In spite of all I had taught them, in spite of the revelation of the Last Supper, they had secretly felt sure that when the final moment came, and the hatred of the Pharisees was declared against Me I should sound some call to action, and that I should lead My many followers, and found My earthly kingdom. Even the disciples who had eyes to see My Spiritual Kingdom had thought material forces had proved too strong for Me.

    But with My Resurrection came hope. Faith revived. They would remind each other of all I had said. They would have the assurance of My Divinity, Messiahship, the lack of which had hindered My work on earth, and they would have all My Power in the unseen – the Holy Spirit – to help them.

    Remember, I came to found a Kingdom – the Kingdom. Those who lived in the Kingdom were to do the work — greater works than I was able to do. Not a greater Power shown, not a greater Life lived, but, as men recognized My Godhead, opportunities for works in My Name would increase. My work on earth was to gather around Me the nucleus of My Kingdom, and to teach the Truths of My Kingdom to them. In those Truths they were to live and work.

    God calling December 8

    When I saw 25 years ago that the church I grew up in, was a cult, I felt the disappointment, and the desillision, and I thing at that time I knew how the disciples must have felt on the night that they fled away from Jesus: A lost cause!

  55. foreverblessed says:

    The one thought that is now in my head:
    Do I really believe in Redemption?

    No matter how terribly wrong things may go, partisan divisions, terror, pandemics:
    Do I believe that Jesus can restore everything?

    That I can pray for the people to turn to Jesus, (repent) and see who He really is: Their Savior

  56. foreverblessed says:

    The founding of that eartholy Kingdom,
    that Jesus would come back to earth and restore all, that was uppermost in my thoughts, when I was young.

    Longing for that time was bigger than being of any use to Jesus now, today, doing the Work He started,
    He has overcome the world, He has defeated Satan now, for those who believe, and who leave all (spiritually speaking that is, counting Jesus above all other relations. Like Beloved, also mentioned: Anyone who does not hate his father and mother, cannot be My disciple)

    Being of use to the Kingdom of God right now.

    “Today is the day”

    Sowing the seeds, in the hearts of men…
    serving them as Steve mentioned,
    But with our eyes on Jesus all the time, more on Jesus than on the needs of others, because if our focus is more on the needs we drawn under the load.

  57. jeff1 says:

    Thinking about law and order we are to live lives abiding to the laws of the land so to me that means when in Rome do as the Romans do.

    I can remember my dad speaking of his service in Palestine and he spoke of having a meal with Arabs and he had been advised before he went for the meal that he should be sure and burp after it as otherwise they would be offended and think he did not enjoy it.

    We are to respect others traditions and laws but that doesn’t say we have to agree with them and I think if you cannot do that then don’t go to that country.’

    I have found that you don’t need to go looking for trouble in this world as it usually finds you. It is how we react and deal with difficulties that speaks of whether we live our lives as we say we do.

    It’s easy to judge when your not in another’s situation but when you have to walk in another man’s shoes it’s a very different story.

    As I trust in Christ I am learning that truth as I can not imagine what it must be like for those living with barbaric laws as I have lived in a democracy all my life and have no idea of their fear and suffering.

    That helps me understand why they may be full of hatred and anger because they haven’t seen or known anything other than this in their land.

    Mercy rather than condemnation comes to mind and I hope that shows that I am drawing nearer to God and less of the old me who would have demanded an eye for an eye.

    I think our justice system here (UK) does try hard to look at individual cases and why perhaps sometimes the punishment doesn’t seem to fit the crime because they are privy to all the facts regarding the case and mercy is being shown where judges deem it to be admissible.

    I do believe that the Judiciary here diligently seek to get it right and often we the people fail to see how difficult their task is as they get criticism from all sources and it often seems to be that they are damned if they do and damned if they don’t when it comes to the public.

  58. poohpity says:

    Isn’t it the Judge that determines the punishment for crimes not the victims?

  59. Beloved says:

    Seeing Jesus

    I had to work through a possibly but probably not dangerous situation this morning. Someone said to me “what’s the worst thing that could happen”. As I am myself that I recalled Stephen seeing Jesus as he died and remembered the angels I saw carrying my dad to heaven and I thought, the worst is the best! I will see Jesus through the clouds and go to be with Him. Isn’t that a grand ending!?!? My best “One Thought” yet😊 Although the disciples could not understand what Jesus’ death meant, then, I think when they received Jesus through Pentecost they probably understood it better?

  60. Beloved says:

    Oh sorry what a mess- I did not proofread. Here is my redo:

    Seeing Jesus

    I had to work through a possibly but probably not dangerous situation this morning. Someone once said to me “what’s the worst thing that could happen”. I recalled Stephen seeing Jesus as he died and remembered the angels I saw carrying my dad to heaven and I thought, the worst is the best! I will see Jesus through the clouds and go to be with Him. Isn’t that a grand ending!?!? My best “One Thought” yet😊 Although the disciples could not understand what Jesus’ death meant, then, I think when they received Jesus through Pentecost they probably understood it better? Just guessing.

  61. street says:

    One Thought!?

    i was ask by a man to go to a bible study the other day. he basically knows very little of the bible and has no relationship to God’s Word. I ask that you would pray that i could deny myself and take up the my cross daily and follow Jesus where He wants to lead me in this. He agreed to meet on wednesday.

  62. poohpity says:

    forever, wow someone it seems presumed or assumed what it was going through the mind of Christ in what you quoted. I do not think that that is a possibility considering exactly who Jesus is since as God said, “My thoughts are nothing like your thoughts,” says the LORD. “And my ways are far beyond anything you could imagine.” So wouldn’t that be attaching human thought and reasoning by a finite mind to the infinite?

  63. Beloved says:

    Street I’m praying for you knowing that God uses the most unlikely persons to carry out His will; Even if it’s just to open a door for someone. Be a doorman for Christ!

  64. poohpity says:

    street, it seems like not so long ago that you mentioned that you had no knowledge of the bible, the Word of God when you started reading the bible which you said was in the book Job. Has all that changed in such a short period of time? Usually it takes years and I do not even think that we can ever absorb it all. So maybe you both can learn together but how can you know what that other person knows really maybe he questions your relationship with God like you are doing his.

  65. poohpity says:

    Praying for you both to be filled with excitement to have a buddy to study the word of God with, it is always much more enjoyable to share with someone.

  66. poohpity says:

    I remember back when my mom gave me a bible for Christmas in December of 1989 after coming from being homeless in August of that year and then we were both invited to a very in-depth 5 year bible study that we started in January of 1990. Studying together was one of the most endearing things we experienced together which really brought new meaning to our relationship with God and each other.

  67. Beloved says:

    Submit to God and the devil will flee. Jesus I praise and thank you for the redemption of the saints and for always being our hope and help in times of trouble. Amen

  68. Beloved says:

    A thing I’ve learned about the devil is that he always points us to ourselves- what’s good for us. Just like in the garden. What I want need or desire apart from God. Oh he’s a sneaky one but Jesus showed us the Better way- through the cross. Another thought!?!

  69. Beloved says:

    Pride and arrogance- more of Satans tools.

  70. Beloved says:

    Steve I’ve been thinking of you as well as bubbles and pearl with the storm. May you all be safe and warm and receive strength needed to plow or shovel.

    I was so impressed with a documentary I watched called “Shelter”, run by Franciscans in New Orleans. Covenant House is for homeless teens. They teach them and help them get jobs. The head of it said his staff is phenomenal and all live by the gospel teachings. He said he doesn’t even know or care to know what denomination the staff are with. Thinking of the hard work of snow removal I was so happy when a staff there had to chase a girl all over the city to save her and she said she knew her legs would not allow her to do what she did but God strengthened them so she could find her; this girl who was prostituting. Oh the lengths God will go to to find us- just takes a willing heart ❤️.

  71. foreverblessed says:

    THank you Beloved!

    Mart said: What we say about God says more about us, than about God.

    What we say about someone else says more about us than about the other,
    (that is:if we are not yet totally died to sin, and made new in Christ, because when you have taken out the plank in your own eyes, you can indeed see the splinter in the other person’s eye. But, with great humility you see it. Knowing that each person has his own missings)

    My husband had a course on communication, years ago. With about 12 persons and a leader. They had to do a speech for the group, and then afterwoards the speech was evaluated by all the others. They had to write down the evaluation.
    And one by one they would speak out loud what their evaulation was.

    But here coms the crux:
    Each person had to lay before himself all the evaluations they had made for the other, and read them carefully. Eleven descriptions.
    She said to them: “Now, here you have a gold mine, what you wrote says more about yourself than about the other person.Take it to heart.”

  72. foreverblessed says:

    Jeff, I had to smile when you wrote about your dad, being in Palestine and going along with their culture.
    As I had to think about my dad, who lived in Singapore in the fifties, he was working for a boat company, Loyds it is nowadays, and at Christmas they had to go to their chinese customs, and they had the tradition of giving strong drinks, wiskey and cognac, their visitors had to drink it, they could not refuse, that was rude.
    But they themselves would not drink one drop of alcohol.
    Every time my mom would talk about it, she had to smile about the situation.
    But would always end: “How can people demand such athing from one another?!”

  73. jeff1 says:

    I see the stars that flood the skies,
    A thousand at a glance,
    And wonder that You guide them all
    As simply as a dance.
    My Father God, I know Your love
    Won’t leave my life to chance.
    Speak, I am listening.
    Speak, I am listening.
    Speak, I am listening to You.

    I look across the many years
    Since first I saw Your face.
    I see my endless failures, Lord;
    I see Your constant grace.
    And all around me, Lord, I feel
    Eternal love’s embrace.
    Speak, I will trust You.
    Speak, I will trust You.
    Speak, I will always trust You.

    Lord God, while life is pressing in,
    While doubts and fears pursue,
    I call to mind the many times
    Your hand has brought me through.
    Now bowing here, I bless the pain
    That binds my heart to You.
    Father, I love You.
    Father, I love You.
    Father, I’ll always love You.

  74. bubbles says:

    Joyce, thank you. Steve, Glenna, and Matt live in mountains way higher than where I live. We had freezing rain most all day yesterday and some snow. Took a long time to get the ice to thaw off the car this morning. I walked 3 miles yesterday in hunting boots that caused blisters. Steve has hard and I don’t. Thank you for your kindness.

  75. foreverblessed says:

    Freezing rain, 😲
    That reminds me of the time I was a student, and there was freezing rain, I took my bike to go to class, and the tires just glided down the pavement, there I fell on my back.
    But, I was so determent not to miss class, so I went, I didn’t fall but it was hazardous. When I arrived, there happened to be only a few other students, the rest was more sensible to stay at home. Till today I do not know what drove me to go cycling on icy roads??

    And then all the snow shoveling.
    May God give strength for the day.
    This year was the warmest year in Europe, since measuring. 2016 was the warmest year worldwide. But the cold keeps coming in the US.

    Beloved, I had to think about what you wrote about:
    the worst thing to happen, and that happened to be the most beautiful thing.
    About your dad… I remember that you told that he accepted Christ just before his passing, or was that about your ex?
    Jesus’ Cross covers everything!
    I was more of the opinion to prevent people to go too much off track. But that was a long time ago. I realized that God did not prevent Adam &Eve to take from the fruit, that was forbidden 🙈

    The one thing at that time, 30 plus years ago, I had on my mind was: Couldn’t You send the snake far away? And just have a happy paradise.

    Now the ⁉️ is: do I really believe in:

  76. foreverblessed says:

    Our son is doing reasonably well, the fever has gone, but he is tired, his legs and arms, especially his upper arms. This morning he texted that his breathing is a little bit more difficult. But he does not want me to worry, and he does not want me to come to him, ( and see him behind the windows)
    So I stay at home, and learn to put things in Jesus’ hands, and let go. Thanks for your prayers.
    What is the uppermost thing I want for him?
    That Jesus will be revealed in his heart.

    Bubbles, is your dad going ok through it? I keep praying for you and him.
    Thank God, He did send His Son, to redeem us! To make us whole, spirit mind and body!

  77. foreverblessed says:

    Oh, Bubbles, I wanted to tell you how I enjoy “the Chosen”
    Last night we saw the 7th one.
    Afterwards I really get calm, and peaceful. And enjoying to think over what had been shown. The first healings were astonishing to the disciples, and all. A spare cleansed! Wow. When I read it in the bible, it was there all along, but for them it was new. And yet, the biggest idea about Jesus was not yet clear to them:
    “I will make you fishers of men”
    They had no clue at that time, what if meant, they were expecting to restore the Kingdom.
    And am I not thinking the same: Jesus, come back! And restore everything!
    And yet, He said: “I will make you fishers of men”.

  78. foreverblessed says:

    A spare should be: a leprous cleansed!
    Shocking it was!
    In my church, a woman went to an evangelist, and they prayed for people with legs uneven, they had to sit in a row, stretch their legs, and there her shorter leg grew.
    She walked normal after that! When I tell about it to others, outside the faith, they freeze.
    But the biggest miracle is when a heart is opened for Jesus, and eternal life is given to them, through faith in Jesus!

  79. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Joyce for your concern. We ended up with about 6 inches of very wet heavy snow. A lot less than predicted, but no less difficult in dealing with.

    Watching the news, even the weather channel, you would think no one is alive who remembers the multitude of snow storms we have had much worse than they even predicted.

    But sensationalism gets everyone’s attention, so like the boy who cried wolf, they create a sense of fear and anticipation sometimes baseless, and sometimes warranted.

    Yesterday started for me about 1:30 in the morning. Glenna has a problem walking and has fallen several times in the past few months. She fell that morning and called me for help, so I went down to her house and using a lift I have for Matt got her up and back to bed.

    It had already snowed about 5 inches so after taking care of her I went about plowing off my hill and my neighbors, finishing by 3:30 and returning to my house to get Matt up a little latter.

    Vince came about 4:15 to get the Town’s plow and clean off the streets and returned soon to tell me the windshield wipers didn’t work and he was afraid of hitting something so he was giving up for the morning.

    I used my truck to plow some other streets off and also called it a morning. Later in the morning I arranged to get the truck to a local garage for repairs.

    Got Glenna off to the doctors and hopefully some help in strengthening and stabilizing her legs.

    All the while seeing to Matt’s comfort and needs.

    Feeding the critters, but running off the deer so the little critters could eat.

    If I didn’t do that, the six to ten deer that invade my backyard and fight each other over the little bird seed and sunflower seeds there, would eat it all in a few minutes and not a seed left for the sparrow, chickadee, or Cardinals who feed there.

    Snow no matter how much is just something else we have to deal with, and so deal with it we do.

    At the outset of every day, I ask God to bless the day for us. Yesterday was no different. He did indeed bless us.

    My time here at BTA is intended to be a relaxing time for me, though sometimes it becomes just another thing I have to deal with depending on the comments. I am sure I need not explain.

    I have run late this morning with my backyard duties and so have to move along. Just another choice, either spend a little time here or get to my duties…Life is always going to be like the Martha and Mary dilemma.


  80. foreverblessed says:

    Ha, the Martha&Mary dilemma!!

    A men’s work is from …(forgot the words, eight till noon?)
    But a woman’s work is never done.

    A woman’s work, and Steve’s work.
    This has been my great challenge:
    Doing the chores praising God.
    And at the end of the day, giving all that is left undone in great trust at Jesus’ feet.

    The children are out of the house, and I still have problems with praising God always.
    I live to sit and read the bible, and pray, the whole morning, (Mary) but then in the afternoon the chores come howling at me (Martha)

    I noticed that at the end of the Gospels, Martha is still serving, but I guess, more in a praising way.
    May God bless your day Steve, you and all yours.
    ( I forgot, but is Glenna not in your house now? Is she in a care home?)

  81. foreverblessed says:

    And for the weather:
    We have warm sunshine, and blue skye, I can sit outside in the garden in the sun!
    Not to make you jealous, but this is extra ordinary!
    Mostly we have no sun in December, just grey and wet days.
    “the dark days before Christmas”
    And then comes the festivals, with candlelight, sorely needed.

    Isaiah 9:1-7

  82. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed, After my mother in law Crick died I gave her house ( A double wide house trailer) to Glenna to fix up for her own place to be.

    No problems between her and I at all. It has just been easier for her to live in a one level house with no stairs to climb.

    It isn’t easy living here with Matt and I as he and I get up somewhere after 3 am and go to bed at 9 pm. She likes to sleep late and go to bed late.

    I made her, her own space upstairs. But there were just things that she couldn’t do without fear of disturbing Matt.

    So her house is only about 100 feet from mine and we continue to interact as normal as possible. Like when my mother in law lived there whenever she would be up wandering around the house she takes a phone with her so that if she needs me she can call.

    I know our lifestyle is unconventional, but it works for us. She is able to have her friends in whenever as well as we have extra bedroom space when family comes to visit. Most stay there with her because of the difficulties and routines Matt lives.

    I hope this explains as why she has her own house, a place where she can be a girl and have girl things around her. Matt and I tend to be a little too much man sometimes.


  83. poohpity says:

    I remember a while back that Mart had a topic about we see people and judge them through our own perspectives or lenses not actually how they really are. So it would then follow that we can do that with God as well. Biases are hard things to change even when reality is right there in front of us. When someone tells another that the sky is green for so long and they trust that person then they begin to doubt themselves out of believing it is blue so eventually changing to see it as green even when their eyes see the blue. That is how brainwashing and deception start. Even John the Baptist began to doubt what he knew about Jesus because he was told otherwise when in prison.

  84. poohpity says:

    Paul knew that when he wrote Romans 2:1

    Often we see ourselves in the lives of others and accuse them of what we are guilty of ourselves.

  85. SFDBWV says:

    I am going to retell a story I had shared years ago here that should be self- explanatory to most of you concerning people who think they are speaking for God by defending the law. Doing more harm than good and perhaps unwittingly ruining the reputation of God.

    The church we attend when I was a child was the United Brethren Church. There was also a Methodist Church here in town as well and a Presbyterian Church and a Church of God at the time.

    The Methodist Church held a revival and invited members of all the other churches to attend. My mother had me and my sister right there in the pews the first night of revival.

    The preachers name was Johnson, I remember because his son Mark was the same age as me and we were in the same grade of school. I even still have the school pictures of all six of us at the time. Yes six. We attended a three room school house that had two grades in each room with one teacher for each room. There were only six of us and at one time only four.

    Any way it was the first night of revival and after the music and singing were over Rev. Johnson began his revival sermon, he started by pointing to all the teenage girls setting in the front row and began a tirade rant loudly accusing them of listening to that rock and roll music and smoking cigarettes.

    Yelling at them that they were all going to hell for doing so.

    I don’t remember a lot about the night except the girls in the front row all crying and my mother telling me and my sister we were not coming back to this church for anymore of this kind of nonsense.

    It wasn’t long after that we moved back to the Washington DC area and over time the Methodist’s and the UB church combined to be what we know of today as the United Methodist Church.

    My point is that Rev. Johnson in my opinion did little to revive the people in the pews and did a great dis-service to Jesus by being in the pulpit and delivering such a sermon. But I bet he would defiantly argue with me today that his message of hell and damnation was the proper way to preach.

    The story a little over 60 years old, but people still preach hell and damnation over forgiveness and grace still yet today. As well as run people away from church.


  86. Beloved says:

    He writes, “I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified. I Corinthians 2:2-5

    Reading about Melchizedek in Hebrews (interesting man with no human parents- but that’s another conversation) I though it a good reminder to those of us who still struggle with sin this:

    Hebrews 9:27–28HCSB
    27 And just as it is appointed for people to die once—and after this, judgment —- 28 so also the Messiah, having been offered once to bear the sins of many, will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for Him. (Faith)

  87. street says:

    thinking about damnation sermons. the condemnation of it all.
    if i remember right God condemned all flesh at the cross of Christ. sure thats true. just wondering if the message of salvation at the cross gets lost.

    leading paul to understand that he knew nothing but Christ crusified. nonsense to the gentile and foolishness to the hebrew.

    thinking of marts silent films of action or just words. which would you choose? seems like Jesus might be a better choice.

    tired of the good and evil. thinking two choices evil and lesser evil. been thinking about the idea of free will. i have been thinking contrary to this thought. the phrase bondage of the will comes to mind. freedom from evil? a bondage of life and light. thinking light of the world.

  88. street says:

    am i sinless or righteous….depends on vantage point.
    thinking of job the righteous one.

    hope in the Jesus the One Who Saves.

    abraham believed God and it was reckoned to him as righteousness.

  89. street says:

    17 The Spirit and the bride say, “Come.” And let the one who hears say, “Come.” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who desires, take the water of life without cost.

    unconditional free.

    why do we add conditions on service worship or love.

    seems like a distrust or thinking a better way than Gods way.

    , for the accuser of our brothers and sisters has been thrown down, the one who accuses them before our God day and night. 11 And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even [a]when faced with death. Revelation 12

  90. Beloved says:

    “So when you have a hunger to know what is right in God’s eyes, when you care about his glory, when you willingly submit to his will, when you forsake your plan for his plan, and when you find joy in surrendering to his lordship, you know that you have been visited by rescuing grace.”
    Paul David Tripp

  91. bubbles says:

    Forever, happy you enjoyed the show. It’s nice to see something good for once.
    Dad has to have a feeding tube because he cannot swallow. He has pneumonia. The doctor told me I can go see him tonight, so I am masking up and wearing gloves. I won’t be able to touch him, but at least I can see him. if I get the virus, I get it. I need to see him one more time. He is my best friend and this is so hard. I am profoundly sad and this grief is stirring up the grief for my mother who has been with the Lord for 43 years. I adore my father. He’s my best friend and I miss him already. I am so sad.

  92. Beloved says:

    Bubbles may you feel Jesus’ hand of comfort on your shoulder as you visit your dad.

  93. bubbles says:

    His doctor told me to wait half an hour and he would call the supervisor so I could get in. I waited an hour, drove out in the dark and cold, and of course the doctor had not called the supervisor so I did not get to see him. Made an attempt to call the doctor, and of course, HE is now off duty and won’t be back. He wasn’t answering his phone. He is a liar just like every other health care person in this state. I am furious. This is like a nightmare. Maybe my car will get totaled or my house will burn down. No one could make up this sick situation because it’s too insane to be real. I am furious.

  94. Beloved says:

    Turn. to. Jesus. He loves you and cares about your pain and situation. But don’t call down curses on yourself. God is love.

  95. Beloved says:

    But don’t call down curses on yourself.

    S O R R Y!!

    That was a stupid comment that came from bad teaching in my past. Those who are in Christ Jesus will suffer. But He always prevails. Trusting is hard to do sometimes, but the just shall live by faith.

  96. SFDBWV says:

    There is little I could say that would make Bubbles feel better. If I could fix her problems I would have already. She is a dear friend, very fragile and in pain.

    I am sure Martha and Mary felt such pain as they waited for Jesus to come and when He didn’t, bury their brother.

    As I have said before, faith is a gift we receive from God and for His reasons alone that faith is tested time and time again.

    You might say that the testing of our faith strengthens it, but the heartache and pain suffered seems to be out of character for a loving father to inflict on his beloved children.

    So as to improve upon His gift.

    But such is this walk we have with our Lord and like so many times before, sometimes all we can say is I trust you Father and step out of the boat on to the water.

    17 degrees with 6 inches of snow on the ground.


  97. jeff1 says:

    When I think of the suffering of Christ and His followers I am reminded that it is part of the course when on this earth but when it comes to my time to suffer I am not any braver than the next man speaking of myself here.

    Have I not commanded you
    Be strong and courageous.
    Do not be afraid; do not
    be discouraged, for the
    Lord your God will be with
    you wherever you go.
    JOSHUA 1:9

  98. bubbles says:

    Courage? This has nothing to do with courage. My dad is in pain and yelling in pain. No one is helping his pain. They lie to me. I can’t go see him. Then they say I can and that was a lie. Jeff, you of all people, who revered your own father must know how painful this is.

  99. poohpity says:

    bubbles, it was God who said to Joshua to be courageous and strong when facing what was on the road ahead because God would be with him just as God is with you no matter what lies ahead. That is where faith comes in, to trust in what God has promised and that promise is never to leave or forsake you even when it seems like the world is falling down around us. I know you are hurting for your dad bubbles but that does not mean you can lash out at others when their heart is in the right place trying to console and comfort you.

  100. bubbles says:

    No one is lashing out and I am fully aware of where the verses are in the book of Joshua. Pooh, you just need to shut up. You delight is sowing seeds of discord and then lie about it and turn it around on everyone else. Everyone here is weary of your comments, hateful words, and attitude.

  101. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Bubbles, I just stand beside you, and hold up your arms, that you may still reach out to God.

    A few years ago, we had s pastor, who had list his second wife to cancer. Because really hurting, deep hurt
    He said this: When times are very bad for us, it is not our own faith that helps us, it is the faith of Jesus.

    Jesus, hang on the Cross, and the Father had turned His back on Jesus.
    That awful moment, when Jesus was deserted, and on His own with a multitude of dark forces, bulls of Bashan ( as Psalm describe them)
    In that excruciating moment He cried out:
    My God, My God,
    Why have You forsaken Me?

    Jesus still had faith! He held on to God!

    And if is that faith that Jesus gives to us, when we are down and out and in chaos.

  102. foreverblessed says:

    It is that faith, of Jesus

  103. poohpity says:

    As in the first paragraph of this topic from A.W. Tower how we view God, it seems as well as our view of others often says more about how we are than it does about them and how they are.

  104. poohpity says:

    Tozer not Tower. Lol

  105. Beloved says:

    Thank you for a good laugh this morning I really needed it!! But seriously, I remember an old song all of a sudden,

    Nobody knows the troubles I’ve seen,
    nobody knows, like Jesus.

  106. SFDBWV says:

    Things here have settled down for the moment as Matt is having his Saturday morning snack of a Bologna Lunchable, P3, Propel, and a couple Atkins bars.

    Shower at 11.

    Taking a few minutes to look through the news, I see the ugly head of human nature already beginning to rise.

    It isn’t enough that doctors and nurses are considered #1 priority in receiving the “miracle” vaccine. Doctors in California are arguing over which doctors should get it first over other doctors.

    If the vaccine were available to the general public at any given place I have no doubt people would be trampled to death by others rushing to get in first.

    Some may think this cursed virus is somehow related to God punishing mankind. I don’t. But there is a reckoning coming and it will be much worse than this one.

    Until that hour of the rapture call, we are under grace. However when that trumpet calls, the Holy Spirit will be removed from the earth once again along with us.

    And the world will be left with such “doctors” who won’t let a family member be with a dying loved one and fight over getting a vaccine first.

    God help us, and come Lord Jesus and rescue us from this world.


  107. bratimus says:

    I’m thinking that God allowed the pandemic, to show the to show the arrogance o0f man, that man doesn’t control much at all. I know God is in control of everything. so there is a reason for the virus. I’m not saying it is a punishment, more of a test or trial of man.

    As I seen what was happening in this country the U.S.A. and around Earth. I can’t say that God wasn’t going to step in. We have to face it, the world was in a free fall spin no matter what all the leaders say, they are even more out of control then the general population. Just look at how they a trying to control things around the virus, completely out of control.

    So yeah I’m of think that God allowed the virus to show man that they really control nothing espeacially one self, This is why I try so hard to hold to the teachings of Christ Jesus and keep them with in my heart. This is why it is so important to spread the Gospels of Christ to feed the hearts of man and woman so the heart of man becomes the good soil for the seed of Christ Jesus to grow so, so strong in. To harvest us and weed out the tares with the seed of the original anarchist in the bad and harden hearts of man.

    God could be testing the whole of mankind with the virus, after all it is worldwide its a pandemic.

    It is what rode in with the pandemic that most missed.

    Those with eyes to see and ears to hear.

    In Christ Jesus name


  108. street says:

    oswald chambers is good today it speaks of Jesus bringing a sword.

    i dont spell very well and look for ways to remember how to spell words

    s word- “S”aving word. the death of self.

    Proverbs 25:11
    Like apples of gold in settings of silver, Is a word spoken at the proper time.

  109. Beloved says:

    I just heard again that Sin came from our first parents- that they are to blame. However, Romans5 says that where sin abounded grace did more! Just think, more grace than an infinite number of viruses! With many more developing as we speak!

  110. street says:

    we were in are parents went they sinned.

    when we are in Christ, we have been crucified with with and we were raised with Him, new life.

    yet we still have this body of flesh to be mortified by His Spirit that we received from Him.

    The Holy Spirit The gift of God.

    are we God no.

    Jesus prayed that we would be One just as He and the Father are One.

    thy Kingdom come thy will be done on earth just as it is in Heaven.

  111. Beloved says:

    I was recalling the other day when I was a new believer that a neighbor who was helping me said that Jesus wasn’t coming back until all Christians quit sinning and that was our part to usher in the age to come. I thought then, oh my have I got work to do. But then I thought of new believers coming tomorrow next week next year and the thief on the cross who had no opportunity to mortify. Today, scripture says, today is the day. Not to harden the heart but to What?

  112. Beloved says:

    Street I’m not saying we shouldn’t mortify the deeds of the flesh. It sometimes takes a while or a lifetime to make progress though. Just sayin’. Don’t let yourself get overcome or overwhelmed by sin. Blessings to you today be yours in our beloved Savior, Christ Jesus.

  113. poohpity says:

    I believe this virus was man made with evil intent to sow or cause chaos around the world after all don’t we know where it came from like the labs in Wuhan, China? China is the primary source of much of our ingredients for medicine and PPE which would cause nations to go to them to seek help, so nations would be indebted to them. But gladly many have come to find other solutions than to go to China. It seems it could be called a bio-weapon against the world.

    I am glad the front line workers are receiving the vaccination first since it is them who works with those who are sick from the virus. Then it is older folks in care facilities next in line because that is the demographic that has had more people die from the virus as well as those with co-morbidity like heart, lung, diabetes and obesity problems. Some of our leaders are taking it also to show they are not afraid so that the population will get it rather than refuse because of the fear that is pushed hence it seems why they do it publicly.

    I guess it all comes down to how people look at it and how much truth filled information they have which is in short supply lately because it has become so partisan with unreliable info, propaganda and misunderstandings but God has blessed us with discernment when we ask.

    I know so many who have had it including 5 in my family alone, my church and friends. Most have come through it successfully but there are those who had other medical problems on top of having the virus who have sadly passed away none of which were under the age of 65.

    Blessed are those who have put their hope and faith in Jesus Christ so they have a home already prepared for us in heaven since we were not promised a life free from trails, suffering or troubles but a promise that our Lord would be with us through the storms of this life to bring us to a better place whether here and now or for eternity.

  114. jeff1 says:

    Bubbles, I do not understand how your father is being left in pain because here pain relief is given to make sure the patient is comfortable and so while it was hard to loose my dad I knew he was well cared for.

    I am sorry to hear that is not happening with your dad and sorry my comment added to your injury it was insensitive of me seeing your circumstances and I hope you will accept my apology for hurt caused to you.

  115. jeff1 says:

    How easy we forget as a friend of mine once said that when she had tuberculous at the time she swore if she got well she would never complain again and yet she says here I am complaining to you lot about a lot less.

    We do make promises that we cannot keep but God does not and with that in mind I will continue to trust His better judgements for if this pandemic has taught me anything it has reiterated my belief to trust God.

  116. foreverblessed says:

    In church service today, (online) this bible passage was proclaimed:

    67 His father Zechariah was filled with the Holy Spirit and prophesied:

    “Praise be to the Lord, the God of Israel,
    because he has come to his people and redeemed them.
    He has raised up a horn[a] of salvation for us
    in the house of his servant David
    (as he said through his holy prophets of long ago),
    salvation from our enemies
    and from the hand of all who hate us—
    to show mercy to our ancestors
    and to remember his holy covenant,
    the oath he swore to our father Abraham:
    to rescue us from the hand of our enemies,
    and to enable us to serve him without fear
    in holiness and righteousness before him all our days.

    And you, my child, will be called a prophet of the Most High;
    for you will go on before the Lord to prepare the way for him,
    to give his people the knowledge of salvation
    through the forgiveness of their sins,
    because of the tender mercy of our God,
    by which the rising sun will come to us from heaven
    to shine on those living in darkness
    and in the shadow of death,
    to guide our feet into the path of peace.”

    Luke 1-67-79

    I pray that despite circumstances, and the hardship your dad is going through, that the mercy of Jesus may touch you and your dad especially, Bubbles.
    May God have mercy on you both, and all the hospital people too! May God forgive them

  117. poohpity says:

    Thank you Jesus for the mercy you have shown to all of humanity and especially to those who may not feel they need it, who still sit in darkness. Thank you for your forgiveness and grace the very reason we celebrate your descending to this earth to take on human form to receive what we deserve so that we can live in eternity with you.

    Father comfort those who are in pain whether it be physical or emotional. Help us trust and depend in your great love for us no matter the circumstance we find ourselves in at the moment so we realize you are the light in all this darkness, the peace in every storm, the place of rest for the weary and the strength we need to carry on. It is in the name of Jesus I pray, Amen

  118. Beloved says:

    Oh yes forever I have been reading the “Christmas” story and my love grows deeper and different every year- especially when there’s turmoil all around. What has touched me this year is how God made Zacharias unable to speak Luke1:20-25 for a while but when he was finally able to he praised God! Luke1:62-80 Thinking how the touch of God seemingly makes for disaster but really it’s part of Gods plan all along. Paul too was made lame (blind) at first until God restored His sight and sent him on a mission. It really makes me think differently. Of course the greatest disaster from mans standpoint was the cross which brought about our spiritual healing.

  119. Beloved says:

    Luke 1:67-79

    Zechariah’s Prophecy

    67 Then his father Zechariah was filled with the Holy Spirit and spoke this prophecy:
    68 ‘Blessed be the Lord God of Israel,
    for he has looked favourably on his people and redeemed them.
    69 He has raised up a mighty saviour* for us
    in the house of his servant David,
    70 as he spoke through the mouth of his holy prophets from of old,
    71 that we would be saved from our enemies and from the hand of all who hate us.
    72 Thus he has shown the mercy promised to our ancestors,
    and has remembered his holy covenant,
    73 the oath that he swore to our ancestor Abraham,
    to grant us 74that we, being rescued from the hands of our enemies,
    might serve him without fear, 75in holiness and righteousness
    before him all our days.
    76 And you, child, will be called the prophet of the Most High;
    for you will go before the Lord to prepare his ways,
    77 to give knowledge of salvation to his people
    by the forgiveness of their sins.
    78 By the tender mercy of our God,
    the dawn from on high will break upon* us,
    79 to give light to those who sit in darkness and in the shadow of death,
    to guide our feet into the way of peace.’

  120. Beloved says:

    I watched Chosen Christmas last night it is great! Also loved Parkside Churches Christmas program😊

  121. jeff1 says:

    Our five churches celebrated our service of nine lessons and carols at a drive in as it would have been difficult for the smaller churches to social distance.

    We had the privilege of parking our cars in front of a Castle as the Duke who lives there is a member of one of the churches and give permission for us to gather for the service.

    It has been such an encouragement as we enter a 6 week lock-down from 26 December.

    The service concluded with the Blessing and Dismissal:

    May the joy of the angels,
    the eagerness of the shepherds,
    the perseverance of the wise men,
    the obedience of Joseph and Mary,
    and the peace of the Christ-child
    be yours this Christmas;
    and the blesssing…

    Go in peace to love and serve the Lord
    in the name of Christ. Amen

  122. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you for that blessing!
    Last night I too saw the Christmas special from the Chosen.
    The shepherds in the fields, from Luke 2:8-19, what a great moment that was, the light, the message of the angel,
    And then that beautiful choir of angels singing.
    The shepherds ran with nog to Bethlehem, the see the child, and kneel down. Then they go into the town, and tell everybody:

  123. foreverblessed says:

    16 So they hurried off and found Mary and Joseph, and the baby, who was lying in the manger. 17 When they had seen him, they spread the word concerning what had been told them about this child, 18 and all who heard it were amazed at what the shepherds said to them. 19 But Mary treasured up all these things and pondered them in her heart. 20 The shepherds returned, glorifying and praising God for all the things they had heard and seen, which were just as they had been told.

    Luke 2:16-20

  124. foreverblessed says:

    What a wonderful things happened to them!
    Now, we believe in faith.
    Jesus is still the same, the angels sing in heaven.
    And here on earth…
    Yesterday was a wonderful day, we were singing Christmas songs, with the church music group. When I came home I heard that all air traffic with England was shut down. And at night the ferries were also closed. People who were already on board were taken off. And had to stay in England.
    Such a sudden decisions!
    Apparently, there is a new type of Corona going round in England, I had heard about it last week, but did not take too much notice about it.
    Freight lorries is still going.
    So good can go to and fro from England.

    Not to be too much disturbed about what is going on. J hadcto think about my grand parents, when the second world wat started,
    Imagine yourself, you wake up in the morning and then head that the Germans have invaded your country.
    My mother was a child of six.

    By the way, what I wrote about the traditions of the Chinese in Singapore, it was not on Christmas day, it was on the Chinese New Year, that they served disney at 10 in the morning. 🌅
    My dad having to visit them, as they were the clients of the shipping company he worked for, which is Loyd’s today.
    My mom said that the next year my dad had hepatitis, and he as not allowed to drink alcohol, so he had a good reason not to drink and was spared the ordeal of an overdose alcohol.

    Anyway, the angels are still singing, and Jesus is still sitting at the right side of God, looking with favor on all who week Him first and foremost of all things,
    And with love on all He has made.

  125. jeff1 says:

    Philippians 4:8 8Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable-if anything is excellent or praiseworthy-think about such things.

  126. foreverblessed says:

    Oh dear, did not proofread!
    I had think about my grand parents, when the second world war started,
    Imagine yourself, you wake up in the morning and then hear that the Germans have invaded your country.

    And the other typo ( or rather auto-correct):
    The Chinese served alcohol in the morning on chinese new year.

  127. Beloved says:

    I can’t imagine what it would be like to be invaded by another country except the feeling we all had here at 9/11/01 when the Taliban struck. Wondering if it was all out war. When I was a little girl we had bomb drills in grade school for fear of nuclear war- but I was able to figure out on my own there was no really safe place from the radioactive particles in school or my home so kind of felt despondent. When the threat of this coronavirus struck I thought well at least it’s not bullets were dodging. But still, even though the flu kills far more people every year the novelty of this one along with the mutations is chilling and cause for alarm for most. Except those in denial like my daughter in law who refuses to mask and won’t allow her kids in school because they have to mask up. Some think it’s purely political- dumb if you ask me.

    That was interesting about your dad. I do enjoy some reality shows like 90 day fiancé because of the cultural differences I learn about. That’s about all though. They usually end up fighting because they don’t do their research first and expect the differences to dissolve for “love”, lol.

  128. foreverblessed says:

    My mom said that in the war the first few years did not change much. But then the school was often confiscated by the Germans, and they had to go find other places, join in with another school, or go to the church and have class.
    Often they had no school. And when it was too cold the school was closed, for lack of coal. For weeks on end.
    So the older generation say they over exaggerate the effect of lockdown. Because neither was their life ruined by the 5 year war.
    (I do believe though, that the war had an effect on the older generation, who were children at that time, with deep hidden fear.)

  129. Beloved says:

    Death (and the fear of) really is our worst enemy. Even welcomed by many who are just plain tired of sickness and struggles.

    But Jesus gives us a new perspective, with hope!

  130. Beloved says:

    On death

    No wonder Paul also remembers the “fear and trembling” he experienced in those early days. Imagine trying to convince members of the local synagogue to read their Scriptures in a way that would enable them to see their long-awaited Savior and King— in the hands of Roman executioners.

    Dying for the gospel is different than dying for viruses and political takeovers though. But whatever the cause Christ is still able to do “exceedingly abundantly more than we can think or imagine”. He can take us to heaven. Bless His holy name! Amen

  131. street says:

    “What comes into our minds when we think about God is the most important thing about us.”

    Thank YOU.

  132. street says:

    What if it was our own group that had unwittingly ruined the reputation of our God?

    God’s reputation or His Image? God keeps His Word.

    thinking about a sword. would God’s sword need sharpened or polished? some how i think not.

    redeemed by the blood of the Lamb. grace and truth received. we live in a liner time that repeats itself. what is to follow?

    14 And those who were blind and those who limped came to Him in the temple area, and He healed them. 15 But when the chief priests and the scribes saw the wonderful things that He had done, and the children who were shouting in the temple area, “[f]Hosanna to the Son of David,” they became indignant, 16 and they said to Him, “Do You hear what these children are saying?” And Jesus *said to them, “Yes. Have you never read, ‘From the mouths of infants and nursing babies You have prepared praise for Yourself’?” 17 And He left them and went out of the city to Bethany, and spent the night there.

    he was not welcome in the inn and nor in the Temple after dark.

    let the light of the world illuminate the darkness and His Voice lead the way this Christmas and always.

  133. jeff1 says:

    Shine your light against the dark
    Stand upright and make your mark
    Do your best wherever you may be
    And shine your light for me
    Long ago when I was just
    A boy of tender years
    My father told me life’s a road
    Paved with joy and tears
    And as you travel you must choose
    Between what’s right and wrong
    Remember sin is giving in
    For Heaven’s sake be strong
    As I grew beyond my teens
    The world began to press
    My father’s words began to fade
    Lost to selfishness
    And after years of walking down
    The wrong side of the track
    One night I cried and deep inside
    My father’s words came back
    My father said that kindness is
    The light of God in man
    So I was told to shine like gold
    On everyone I can
    I changed my ways and did my best
    To right the wrong I’d done
    I settled down and in a year
    God blessed us with a son
    Now he’s barely nine years old
    A learner on life’s way
    He wonders why a day goes by
    He doesn’t hear me say
    Do your best wherever you may be
    And shine your light
    Shine your light
    Do your best wherever you may be
    And shine your light for me

  134. Beloved says:

    Away in a manger
    No crib for a bed
    The little Lord Jesus
    Laid down His sweet head
    The stars in the bright sky
    Looked down where He lay
    The little Lord Jesus
    Asleep on the hay
    The cattle are lowing
    The Baby awakes
    But little Lord Jesus
    No crying He makes
    I love You, Lord Jesus
    Look down from the sky
    And stay by my side
    Until morning is nigh
    Be near me, Lord Jesus
    I ask You to stay
    Close by me forever
    And love me I pray
    Bless all the dear children
    In Your tender care
    And fit us for heaven
    To live with You there

  135. Beloved says:

    Isn’t He?
    Words and Music By John Wimber

    Isn’t He ….. Beautiful?
    Beautiful ….. Isn’t He?
    Prince of Peace, Son of God
    Isn’t He? Isn’t He?

    Isn’t He ….. Wonderful?
    Wonderful ….. Isn’t He?
    Counsellor, Almighty God
    Isn’t He? Isn’t He? Isn’t He?
    Isn’t He?

  136. street says:

    Do your best wherever you may be
    And shine your light
    Shine your light
    Do your best wherever you may be
    And shine your light for me

    2 Then he sent messengers to the city to Ahab, king of Israel, and said to him, “This is what Ben-hadad says: 3 ‘Your silver and your gold are mine; your most beautiful wives and children are also mine.’” 4 And the king of Israel replied, “As [a]you say, my lord, O king; I am yours, as well as all that I have.”

    7 I will shake all the nations; and [a]they will come with the wealth of all nations, and I will fill this house with glory,’ says the Lord of armies. 8 ‘The silver is Mine and the gold is Mine,’ declares the Lord of armies. 9 ‘The latter glory of this house will be greater than the former,’ says the Lord of armies, ‘and in this place I will give peace,’ declares the Lord of armies.”

    This is the message we have heard from Him and announce to you, that God is Light, and in Him there is no darkness at all.

    He who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming quickly.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.

  137. foreverblessed says:

    Do your est to let your light shine for Me.

    One thought:
    Maybe it is the other way around:
    Let Jesus shine through me

    It is so hard to completely surrender to Jesus, and be so relaxed, and at Rest, resting form our own works, so that Jesus can work through me. Hebrews 4:1-11

    We are on our way, though, everyday a little closer to Jesus.

    vers 11
    Let us, therefore, make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one will perish by following their example of disobedience.

    What a contradiction: making every effort to enter that Rest!

  138. foreverblessed says:

    Do your best

    And let Jesus do the rest

    (my own one thought just now)

  139. Beloved says:

    Forever are you disagreeing with scripture? I don’t understand you?

  140. Beloved says:

    Closer to Jesus

    When we believe Jesus died for our sins in complete trust He enters our being through the Holy Spirit. We become a “new creation” born again by that same Spirit. Jesus never leaves us- but some may chose to leave Him.

  141. Beloved says:

    What I mean is, are you saying that v11 is a contradiction or?

  142. Beloved says:

    To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory. Col 1:27

    This is what I’m thinking. Maybe I’m being too literal? If Christ is in me why do I need to look for Him? He’s here, right where I am- always❤️😊

  143. street says:


    be still and know I Am The Lord. Sovereign

    they could not enter or be still because they could not trust.

    joshua and caleb did trust God like abraham. yet they entered the promised land.

    thinking of david Psalm like a babe resting on the breast. we should be resting on the Spirit and the Truth which is loaded with grace and mercy,

    a trust that is efficacious

    Isaiah 55:11
    So will My word be which goes out of My mouth; It will not return to Me empty, Without accomplishing what I desire, And without succeeding in the purpose for which I sent it.

    1 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2 [a]He was in the beginning with God. 3 All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him [b]not even one thing came into being that has come into being. 4 In Him was life, and the life was the Light of mankind. 5 And the Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not [c]grasp it.

  144. street says:

    5 And the Light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overpower it.

  145. street says:

    Imagine trying to convince members of the local synagogue to read their Scriptures in a way that would enable them to see their long-awaited Savior and King— in the hands of Roman executioners.

    or in the hands of us who say no.

    known the sacred writings which are able to give you the wisdom that leads to salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus. 16 All Scripture is [a]inspired by God and beneficial for teaching, for [b]rebuke, for correction, for training in righteousness; 17 so that the man or woman of God may be [c]fully capable, equipped for every good work.

    John 15:5
    I am the vine, you are the branches; the one who remains in Me, and I in him bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing.

    when the very first Passover happen, who kills the sacrificial lamb. yes we are guilty, yet the Lamb makes away of escape.

  146. street says:

    11 I say then, God has not rejected His people, has He? [a]Far from it! For I too am an Israelite, [b]a descendant of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God has not rejected His people whom He foreknew. Or do you not know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah, how he pleads with God against Israel? 3 “Lord, they have killed Your prophets, they have torn down Your altars, and I alone am left, and they are seeking my life.”

    11 I say then, they did not stumble so as to fall, did they? [g]Far from it! But by their wrongdoing salvation has come to the Gentiles, to make them jealous. 12 Now if their wrongdoing proves to be riches for the world, and their failure, riches for the Gentiles, how much more will their [h]fulfillment be! 13 But I am speaking to you who are Gentiles. Therefore insofar as I am an apostle of Gentiles, I magnify my ministry 14 if somehow I may move my [i]own people to jealousy and save some of them. 15 For if their rejection proves to be the reconciliation of the world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 16 If the first piece of dough is holy, the lump is also; and if the root is holy, the branches are as well.

  147. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning fellow travelers, it has been a tough few days here in Appalachia. As weather and life takes its toll.

    As Christmas approaches, once again for us it just don’t seem like “Christmas”.

    All the commercial hype and removal of Christ from the season has for years also taken its toll.

    I have actually read that Jesus was born some time during the last week of September and that with Emperor Constantine’s fusion of the celebration of the winter solstice and Jesus’ birth we have December 25 as that special day.

    I suppose it doesn’t matter as long as we acknowledge our Lord and Savior Jesus of Nazareth did come.

    And oh how we so long for Him to come again.

    I wonder how many of us have erroneous expectations of that event as well.

    I desperately hope for “the rapture” to happen, yet I know many believers don’t believe in it. I don’t as of this writing want to get into that argument. Enough to say I do.

    I apologize, as I don’t want to sound like a downer here as we celebrate the birth of Jesus. Blessings to all of you and joy and peace for you all.

    18 degrees with snow on the ground enough to make those happy for a white Christmas…Can we say that now with the new social media rules for restrictions on speech?


  148. poohpity says:

    Mart asked, “What if it was our own group that had unwittingly ruined the reputation of our God?” I do not think that can happen unless the group has their eyes, minds, hearts and ears focused on something other than on Christ Jesus. Looking around instead of up. Or it could be that one does not have the guidance of the Holy Spirit to experience the joy of just knowing our Savior.

    There will always be those that try to ruin a celebration by trying to get us to focus on what we do not have rather than being grateful for the vast amount of treasures we do have. On the top of those treasures we can be grateful for is that God pursued us to have a relationship with Him first and foremost.

    God knew since the beginning those who would want to become His very own children and supplied the way and means to do so. He knew your name! He knew what we would do and still gave Himself for us. He knew we are weak and broken but gave us strength and filled us with joy to overcome.

    Remember as Stephen was being stoned to death he said, “While they were stoning him, Stephen prayed, “Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.” Then he fell on his knees and cried out, “Lord, do not hold this sin against them.” When he had said this, he fell asleep.” As he was being murdered the Holy Spirit filled him with God’s love for his enemies.

    FAITH! Oh the peace and joy found in trusting our God. Faith in the midst of any circumstance can raise a heart to find all the things we have to be grateful for, even when it seems the world is falling down around us.

  149. poohpity says:

    When upon life’s billows
    You are tempest tossed
    When you are discouraged
    Thinking all is lost

    Count your many blessings
    Name them one by one
    And it will surprise you
    What the lord has done

    Are you ever burdened
    With a load of care?
    Does the cross seem heavy
    You are called to bear?

    Count your many blessings
    Every doubt will fly
    And you will keep singing
    As the days go by

    Count your blessings
    Name them one by one
    Count your blessings
    See what God has done

    So, amid the conflict
    Whether great or small
    Do not be disheartened
    God is over all

    Count your many blessings
    Angels will attend
    Help and comfort give you
    To your journey’s end

    Count your blessings
    Name them one by one
    Count your blessings
    See what God has done

  150. Beloved says:

    Imagine trying to convince members of the local synagogue to read their Scriptures in a way that would enable them to see their long-awaited Savior and King— in the hands of Roman executioners.

    I’m reminded of the struggles of Tevye from Fiddler trying to enforce his cultural traditions and all the while struggling with God. Or against Him, I should say. My first thought this morning was oh boy! I get to read and think more deeply about the Christ child and all that He brought and still brings to the holiday table- so to speak. This pandemic and the isolation has forced me to read pray and worship more. What a blessing! Letting go of the things that disappoint but God never disappoints! Oh taste and see! That the LORD is better than all we can imagine or think!

  151. Beloved says:

    Steve we’re having our first winter storm today. We’ve had barely an inch or two up until now- very unusual with temps well above average. Big change though with 45-50 mph north winds and 3-5 inches of snow which isn’t much really. However temps will be -11 tonight as things settle down. Eager to see if my newer car will start! My landlord did a walk-through of my apt for my move on Sunday. My daughter and husband have been sick and working from home this past week but covid tests have come back negative. My grandson is home from college so will help with the move. (We forget it is also flu season). Every winter gets harder though the older we get. Actually looking forward to when I can’t drive anymore and others bring me my food, lol. That’s probably a little depression talking- I really have to push myself these days.

  152. SFDBWV says:

    Joyce we have had plenty of winter weather here, which is very normal for us. It’s interesting how some people think everything is different from their memories.

    But memories have a way of being either exaggerated or altered unintentionally.

    I remember reading in “The Late Great Planet Earth” (Hal Lindsey) back in the early 70’s how he thought weird weather was another sign of the coming tribulation.

    Of course the modern world wants to call it “global warming” and in truth I would have to agree that the world has been warming up since the last ice age or we would still be in it.

    I had told Glenna when she was still living in Las Vegas that our winters were not as bad as she remembered here, but then a few years after being back here we had a winter with 24 feet of snow. Mart was kind enough to show some of the snow pictures here at the time.

    We too are being warned of a cold snap Friday and Saturday with single digit lows. I don’t like it that cold, too many things can happen. But we will have to deal with what we get or with whatever happens like it or not.

    Hope your move goes off without any problems, hope also you daughter and family get over their flu or flu like ailments quickly.

    Have a blessed day.


  153. Beloved says:

    Thank you, Steve. May your day be blessed also!

  154. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Beloved,
    Hebrews 4:11
    I said that this sounded like a contradiction:
    Making all the effort to enter the Rest!
    You asked if I disagreed with that scripture?
    The question itself: if I disagree with scripture?
    How can I disagree with scripture???
    It is the Word of God.
    I can only say that God’s ways are way over men’s ways.
    When Jesus conquered evil, He was slain by evil.
    Also seemingly a contradiction.

    And a disaster at the time for the disciples, all was lost.
    It would have taken them quite some time to rearrange all scriptures of that time, (the Old Testament)
    To see that Jesus would be that perfect Lamb, to be slain for the forgiveness of sin.

    We who were called 2000 years after that event, have had a lot of Christian teaching, about Jesus, for them it was al new.

    “Imagine trying to convince members of the local synagogue to read their Scriptures in a way that would enable them to see their long-awaited Savior and King— in the hands of Roman executioners.”

    That was for them a contradiction too:
    the Lion of Judah that would be the Lamb

  155. Beloved says:

    Dear forever thanks for explaining. Your spiritual mind is far advanced from my mind—I just started reading the Bible at 30 so take that into consideration (please), and, I sometimes struggle to understand both you and street but end up agreeing. Always.😀. Don’t take offense, please. I ask a lot of questions concerning the faith but don’t mean to offend.

  156. foreverblessed says:

    That’s ok, I actually found your question quite thought provoking: how can I disagree with scripture?
    How can I disagree with God?
    The only thing I can do, is asking questions.

    On the other hand, we can disagree on certain interpretations of Scripture.

  157. foreverblessed says:

    And by the way, I don’t think I am more advanced spiritually.
    Faith as simple as a child.
    I have watched the Christmas special of the Chosen.
    It’s called the Shepherds.
    A limping shepherd comes to the temple with a lamb, the lamb is checked, and it is found to be not spotless. So he is chastened away. Don’t come back, unless you have a spotless lamb.
    He goes back to the fields on the hills, and it happened to be the night that Jesus is born. The angels appear, with great light.
    The shepherds run to the place where Jesus is, and they find Him in the manger, just as the angel told them.
    They are excited, and after their visit they go and tell everybody what they had seen and heard.
    ( The story of Luke 2)
    Also the limping shepherd.
    The priest sees him, and asks: I told you not to come back,
    or do you have a spotless lamb?
    Then you see the face of the shepherd, this question sets in motion a whole train of thoughts ⁉️ and his countenance looks enlightened!!!

    This simple shepherd understands Who the Spotless Lamb is!!!
    He has more insight than most learned biblical scholars.

    In Siberia it is minus 41 Celsius.
    That is cold!
    Succes with the cold, the snow 🌨️
    May God help you.

  158. street says:

    Matthew 1:21
    She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.”

    they want saved from the romans not their sin. which is a bigger problem than the romans.

    Jesus saves us, from ourselves.

    a rest to enter.

  159. jeff1 says:

    All praise to You, Eternal Lord,
    Clothed in a robe of flesh and blood.
    You chose a manger for Your throne
    Though endless worlds are Yours alone.

    Once all the skies before You bowed.
    A virgin’s arms contain You now.
    Your mighty Word brought earth to life.
    Now shepherds kneel to hear You cry.

    You came alone in darkest night
    To make us children of the light.
    In You we rise, a holy race,
    That all may know Your boundless grace.

    Lord Jesus Christ, long promised One,
    For all You are and all You’ve done,
    Let thankful hearts fill all our days
    With songs of love and ceaseless praise.

  160. street says:

    this last sunday during the sermon the pastor spoke of John 1:1-18
    1. The Word was God
    2. The Word offers God
    3. The Word explains God.

    never heard The Word offers God before.

    to be received.

    eat drink and cry.

    paul knows nothing but Christ and Him crucified.

    a peace that can not be disturbed?

  161. Beloved says:

    I want to be like Paul…

  162. street says:

    paul is conformed to the image of Christ

    i suspect he will be sitting on one of the 24 Thrones before God in Revelation.

    peter james john and paul, the one untimely born.

    what these were privileged to see and hear.

    i suspect the saints privileged as will.

    The Lord our Banner. a city on a hill, a light in the darkness. let the banner be flown over the Temple while the King is in residence.

  163. Beloved says:

    Lift high the Lord, our Banner
    Lift high the Lord, Jesus King
    Lift high the Lord, our Banner
    Lift high your praise, to Him sing
    Lift high the Lord, our Banner
    Lift high the Lord, Jesus King
    Lift high the Lord, our Banner
    Lift high your praise, to Him sing
    For He is wonderful
    For He reigns on high
    For He is marvelous
    The Lord draweth nigh
    Lift high the Lord, our Banner
    Lift high the Lord, Jesus King
    Lift high the Lord, our Banner
    Lift high your praise, to Him sing
    For He is wonderful
    For He reigns on high
    For He is marvelous
    The Lord draweth nigh
    Lift high the Lord, our Banner
    Lift high the Lord, Jesus King
    Lift high the Lord, our Banner
    Lift high your praise, to Him sing

  164. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning to you all once again fellow travelers.

    Had to go yesterday afternoon to the cemetery and find a grave in the ice encrusted snow for the family of Mrs. Andi Wolfe. She will be buried Monday.

    Andi used to have a beauty shop here in town 40 years ago and I took Matt to her when he was a couple years old to get his hair cut. Our old barber, Tony, did a pretty bad job of cutting his hair so Andi cut his hair until she retired a few years later.

    Soon after her retirement her sister and she were in a bad auto accident and Andi ended up never able to walk again with spinal injuries.

    Over the past nearly 40 years she has had a very difficult life and eventually ending up in a nursing home these past several years.

    She was a good natured, good hearted Christian woman and complained very little about her situation.

    She died yesterday morning.

    It seems that life doesn’t care what the date on the calendar says as it didn’t in 1980 when my 17 year old niece was killed by a fellow who went off the side of the road and hit her as she was walking along with a friend, December 20th, 1980.

    “I sought to hear the voice of God,
    And climbed the topmost steeple.
    But God declared: “Go down again,
    I dwell among the people.”
    Louis I. Newman

    Be blessed and bless someone else today.


  165. poohpity says:

    I wonder how many who have called themselves Christians have ever really ever opened their hearts to invite Jesus in? Some have said I was brought up in a Christian home or have attended church my whole life yet really never took that step personally to know Him.

    Similar to Philip who asked Jesus to show Him the Father and Jesus replied, ““Have I been with you all this time, Philip, and yet you still don’t know who I am? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father! So why are you asking me to show him to you?”

    Christmas changed everything! Just as Jesus opened hearts and minds to understand scripture, He also can still open hearts and minds to understand scripture. If left to our own interpretation one will be lost, confused, sorely misguided and foolish. However if we have actually invited Jesus into our hearts He will be our guide through them. Jesus stands at the door of your life and knocks. Will this be the Christmas you let Him in?

    Let this Christmas be a time that changes everything. Put Jesus first and follow after Him then things that never made sense before will be seen through the help and guidance of the Holy Spirit and we put our perspective, biases and interpretations aside and see and hear what it is the Lord wants to reveal to us on a personal level.

    As we reflect on what took place the night Jesus was born in a stable not a palace, Mary was not attended to by mid-wife or nurse, under very unclean circumstances and those who came to visit were also the lowest of low and unclean as far as Jewish rules and tradition it was to the shepherds who raised the lambs for sacrifices that the messengers from heaven announced the birth of our sacrificial lamb. Christmas changed everything.

    If your life has not changed by Christmas maybe you still do not realize what happened on that day to make you fall to your knees in worship rather than running to the store to buy something instead of sharing with others that Jesus came to show God’s great love for human kind. Jesus loves you!

  166. poohpity says:

    Joyful, joyful we adore Thee
    God of glory Lord of love
    Hearts unfold like flowers before Thee
    Opening to the sun above
    Melt the clouds of sin and sadness
    Drive the dark of doubt away
    Giver of immortal gladness
    Fill us with the light of day

    All Thy works with joy surround Thee
    Earth and heaven reflect Thy rays
    Stars and angels sing around Thee
    Center of unbroken praise

    Field and forest vale and mountain
    Flowery meadow flashing sea
    Singing birds and flowing fountain
    Call us to rejoice in Thee

    Thou art giving and forgiving
    Ever blessing ever blest
    Well spring of the joy of living
    Ocean depth of happy rest

    Thou are father
    Christ our brother
    All who live in
    Thee are thine
    Teach us how to love each other
    Lift us to the joy divine

    Joyful, joyful we adore Thee
    God of glory Lord of love
    Hearts unfold like flowers before Thee
    Opening to the sun above
    Melt the clouds of sin and sadness
    Drive the dark of doubt away
    Giver of immortal gladness
    Fill us with the light of day
    Giver of immortal gladness
    Fill us with the light of day

  167. Beloved says:

    Good morning all! Minus 15 F with windchill it’s -33 and my car won’t start to clear the parking lot! (We only got 3 inches of snow thankfully). Waiting for tow truck which took me an hour of phone calls and forms to fill out to find who I have roadside insurance with. My neighbor tried to jump my battery but it’s tucked up under the dash!!! How in the world? Oh I miss my old car I had for 13 years. But everything wears out eventually- but God! Giving thanks to Jesus for all that’s happening today as we walk together. I’m safe warm and well fed. Sorry for your loss Steve. A good haircut does miracles for me!

    Merry blessed Christmas all!

  168. Beloved says:

    Joyful! joyful! we ADORE thee. Amen

  169. jeff1 says:

    God is here among us,
    Crying in the night,
    Cradled in our darkness,
    Come to be our Light.
    He was born to suffer,
    One with all who grieve.
    He is born within us
    As we just believe.

    Sharing all our smallness,
    Feeling all our pain,
    He is boundless blessing
    Time cannot contain,
    Song in all our silence,
    Peace in all our fear,
    Hope through every sorrow,
    Brother ever near.

    Star of all the ages
    Piercing through our night,
    Joy of every stable,
    Comfort, warmth, and light,
    Love’s unchanging promise,
    Heaven’s sure reward,
    Praise to You, our Savior,
    Jesus, holy Lord!

  170. street says:

    …your life is hidden with Christ in God. —Colossians 3:3

    1 John 3:2
    Beloved, now we are children of God, and it has not appeared as yet what we will be. We know that when He appears, we will be like Him, because we will see Him just as He is.

    Pentecost God in us.

    12 Then I turned to see the voice that was speaking with me. And after turning I saw seven golden lampstands; 13 and in the middle of the lampstands I saw one like [k]a son of man, clothed in a robe reaching to the feet, and wrapped around the chest with a golden sash. 14 His head and His hair were white like white wool, like snow; and His eyes were like a flame of fire. 15 His feet were like [l]burnished bronze when it has been heated to a glow in a furnace, and His voice was like the sound of many waters. 16 In His right hand He held seven stars, and out of His mouth came a sharp two-edged sword; and His face was like the sun [m]shining in its strength.

    20 As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.

    in the middle of the lampstands I saw one like [k]a son of man,

    “I kept looking in the night visions,
    And behold, with the clouds of heaven
    One like a son of man was coming,
    And He came up to the Ancient of Days
    And was presented before Him.
    And to Him was given dominion,
    Honor, and [a]a kingdom,
    So that all the peoples, nations, and populations of all [b]languages
    Might serve Him.
    His dominion is an everlasting dominion
    Which will not pass away;
    And His kingdom is one
    Which will not be destroyed.

  171. Regina says:

    Merry Christmas Eve, All! :-)
    I hope you and yours are well. By God’s grace, I’m well and family too. I’m on holiday break until next month, and I thank God for the time He’s given me and others to rest. I’ve only read a few of the comments on this blog topic, and I’m always blessed and/or enlightened by what’s shared here. I’ll read the rest of the comments later on. I was listening to the news this morning, and (as usual) I heard the reporter provided info. on the Dow Jones, Nasdaq and the S&P 500. I pondered the info provided as I don’t know how those scores apply to my life. Was also wondering why the United Kingdom voted to leave the European Union?
    Want to offer my condolences (too), Steve, for the loss of your friend and your *niece (even though she transitioned many years ago). Will be praying for your car situation, Beloved. And I’ll also be in prayer for you, bubbles, regarding the situation with your father and that He’ll provide everything that you need as a teacher in order to best help your students.

    ps. I want to apologize in advance for any typos. I typed this comment using my cell phone.

    51 degrees under a clear sky…


    Love to all,

  172. SFDBWV says:

    Merry Christmas fellow travelers.

    Fresh snow and 17 degrees, our supposed high for the day.


  173. Mart DeHaan says:

    Yes, and from me as well! May breathtaking thoughts of the humility of our God renew and warm us with joy, hope, and love— in the wonder and remembrance of his birth!

    19 degrees and snow in Grand Rapids.


  174. bratimus says:

    May everyone have a

    Blessed Christmas

    In Christ Jesus name


  175. foreverblessed says:

    Also from me a blessed Christ mass

  176. foreverblessed says:

    A Mass for Christ 🎄

  177. poohpity says:

    Mart thank you for the wonderful blessing. Amen! I need that reminder everyday. Christmas does change everything!

    Joyous Christmas to everyone.

  178. Beloved says:

    The immense patience of God

    1 Timothy 1:12-16 NIV

    I thank Christ Jesus our Lord, who has given me strength, that he considered me trustworthy, appointing me to his service. Even though I was once a blasphemer and a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief. The grace of our Lord was poured out on me abundantly, along with the faith and love that are in Christ Jesus. Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance:

    Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners—

    of whom I am the worst. But for that very reason I was shown mercy so that in me, the worst of sinners, Christ Jesus might display his immense patience as an example for those who would believe in him and receive eternal life.

  179. jeff1 says:

    Though passing through this darkened world,
    We’re children of the Light.
    Though pressured and rejected here,
    We’re precious in Your sight.

    We walk below with hearts above,
    The captives of eternal love.
    But by Your Spirit show us how
    To love You fully here and now.

    The fruit of all Your life and love
    Will come to those who reap.
    With joy, my Lord, we gladly sow
    The lives we cannot keep.

    Through pain and sorrow, grief and death
    We more than overcome.
    We fix our eyes on Jesus Christ,
    Your risen, reigning Son!

  180. Regina says:

    Merry (belated) Christmas, BTA friends! :-)

    I was distracted with doing hair care yesterday, and I forgot to drop in and give my Merry Christmas wishes! I pray that your day was wonderful, restful and hope you enjoyed some good grub. My family and I didn’t get together yesterday because of the pandemic. We communicated via text msgs and phone calls. I ate veggie tortilla soup with tortilla chips and guacamole for lunch (yum) and for dinner I ate a slice of veggie pizza, a smore, a tea cake with melted ghirardelli chocolate and a couple more chocolate squares for dessert. Yum! Had to enjoy some Christmas indulgence, and ghirardelli chocolate is the best, at least in my opinion. Well, off to do some chores. Hope you enjoyed your white Christmas, Mart and Steve! Not sure if we would’ve enjoyed that in Texas.

    40 degrees under a clear sky with a high of a balmy 68 degrees today…

    Love to all,

  181. street says:

    24 Now those who [h]belong to Christ Jesus crucified the flesh with its passions and desires. Galatians 5

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