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The Humility of God

The thought might seem laughably self-contradictory.

If it is so, why does the God of the Scriptures seem pathologically consumed with his desire for praise and glory?

Why would he demand that we love him?

But if it is not the case, how could Jesus be mirroring something about the heart of his Father and the nature of his Kingdom when, on the eve of his humiliation, he reminded his best friends that he had not come to be served, but to serve?

If it is not so, why at birth would he be laid in an animal’s borrowed feeding trough? Why in death would he be laid in someone else’s grave? If humility is not at the heart of our Father’s nature, why would his Son’s humility— be the evidence of his love, his glory, his reason for being born… and our reason for loving him?

Maybe I’m missing something. :-)


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  1. foreverblessed says:

    Humility.
    What a big topic, where to start?
    “why at birth would he be laid in an animal’s borrowed feeding troug?”

    It so happened to be that yesterday somebody send me a link to a youtube video, about a pastor in Israel, who explains why Jesus had to be born in Bethlehem Efrata, and why he had to be laid in a manger, and why he was wrapped in cloths, Luke 2:7

    He was saying that in Bethlehem Efrata, (Micah 5:2) that means the agricultural hills, there the sheep were raised that were used in the Temple, the lambs that were sacrificed.
    It was David who had assigned this agricultural area on the hills around Bethlehem to be for tending the sheep. And he build watchtowers to keep watch over the sheep.
    Micah 4:8
    And so it was that Jesus had to be born in that area.
    And not only in that area, but also in a manger.
    As the lambs that were born were wrapped in cloths and put in a manger, so they would be kept safe and be unblemished, otherwise they could not be used as a sacrifice in the Temple.

    As the pastor explained it: Jesus was the unblemished Lamb, born to be sacrificed, to save us from sin.

    Look on YouTube for:
    The tower of the flock revealed!

  2. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Mart and all. This is a good question because it does present a conflict in our perception and so our expectations of God the Father.

    God in the person of Jesus tells us to love our enemies, whereas the God of Moses and Joshua showed no mercy to the enemies of Israel. Even punishing Israel or her kings when His merciless orders were not carried out.

    Even giving Miriam leprosy for “murmuring” against Him.

    We read that God is the same and never changes.

    Have you ever worried about second guessing God or complaining about Him?

    Have you ever wondered why God doesn’t give you the prayer request you desire, when He says He will give you the desires of your heart?

    Jesus says to ask anything in His name and the Father will give it. That the Father gives better gifts than the ones we would give our children. So what is it when that just doesn’t happen?

    And for you nit pickers out here I am not talking about trivial things or things that go against the nature of God. I am talking about crucial issues that all of us suffer.

    I think it an insult to try and answer for God when we are not anointed to do so. However there are no end to people ready to give their perspective. And where does that perspective come from?

    Human logic. Their own personal slant.

    And I have found in my walk with God that human logic just doesn’t work when trying to figure out God.

    That He will give me just enough encouragement to keep my faith alive, even in the face of discouragement and disappointment.

    In my earlier years of reading Bible, I wondered how the people suffering under the trials and tribulations of the “great tribulation” be angry with God.

    For if they believe in God isn’t that enough to save them and keep them from God’s wrath?

    Yet I have come to learn how that is possible and it troubles me.

    A good topic to wash out some dirty laundry…

    08 degrees f with flurries.

    Steve

  3. foreverblessed says:

    Sorry, the YouTube title is:
    What Mary didn’t know. The trial of Messiah’s birth and the glory of God.

    Dear Steve, you raise some difficult questions, I gave to go now, we make a quick visit to my mother, just to say hello, then we’ll see our son, from far, and wave, and then go to our other son for dinner.
    This day is called second Christmas day, and is also a national holiday.

    Lately I read this on a christian site:
    When faced with severe suffering:
    “Concentrate on Gethsemane”

  4. Beloved says:

    Gods justice and mercy. ‘you can’t have one without the other’ words from a song from long ago suddenly comes to mind.

    Without justice there would be no mercy. And visa-versa. It’s hard living in the in-between world we live in. I have no answers to your questions Steve.

    Forever I love reading about cultural influences to our modern day western thinking. Very interesting I will look it up after I move. Tomorrow is the day! God willing. Today I should get my car back from the dealership with a tank heater and new battery- again, if God wills.

    The humility of God- what a much needed topic to learn about. Much needed in our world today- as always.

    I’m so thankful for everything God has brought me through thus far. Praise God for His faithfulness to His children!

  5. Beloved says:

    Spurgeon Dec. 26

    I am with you always
    Mathew 28:20

    “The Lord Jesus is among His people; He walks between the golden candlesticks; His promise is, “I am with you always.” He is as surely with us now as He was with the disciples at the lake when they saw coals of fire and fish being prepared for breakfast. Not physically, but still in reality, Jesus is with us. And an important truth this is, for where Jesus is, love becomes passionate. Of all the things in the world that can set the heart burning, there is nothing like the presence of Jesus! A glimpse of Him is so overwhelming that we are ready to say, “Turn away Your eyes from me, for they have overcome me.” Even the fragrance of the aloes and the myrrh and the cinnamon, which linger on His perfumed garments, causes the sick and the faint to grow strong.

    A moment’s leaning of the head upon that gracious chest, welcoming His divine love into our poor cold hearts, and suddenly we are no longer cold but shine like seraphs, equal to every task and capable of bearing every suffering. If we know that Jesus is with us, every power will be heightened, and every grace will be strengthened, and we will cast ourselves into the Lord’s service with heart and soul and strength; therefore the presence of Christ is to be desired above all things. His presence will be realized most by those who are most like Him.

    If you desire to see Christ, you must grow in conformity to Him. Bring yourself, by the power of the Spirit, into union with Christ’s desires and motives and plans of action, and you are likely to be favored with His company.

    Remember, His presence may be enjoyed. His promise is as true as ever. He delights to be with us. If He does not come, it is because we hinder Him by our indifference. He will reveal Himself to our sincere prayers and graciously allow Himself to be detained by our cries and by our tears, for these are the golden chains that bind Jesus to His people.”

  6. jeff1 says:

    Humility a rare virtue in our modern world and perhaps why we find it hard to see God in these times.

    Easier to see it in individual’s as I visited an old people’s home and I commented to my son how gentle the Philippian nurses were and he responded a very gentle race are they.

    Lord of compassion,
    Tender in mercy,
    Helper and Healer,
    Teach us Your ways.
    We are Your people,
    Bowing to follow.
    Shepherd and Servant,
    Lead us, we pray!

  7. poohpity says:

    It would seem that God knew the impact on my life when I was commanded to love Him above all others because it then follows that is the only way I can love others truthfully and faithfully when I grasp that He alone is the source. When He is the desire of my heart I tend not to ask so many whys but rather offer my gratitude for just being allowed to be in His presence. To me there is nothing more valuable than to be in the presence of GOD and I find when I am there nothing but praise and worship come to mind, heart and soul. That is truly awe inspiring to think of.

    I have to admit at times I think of God as Santa Claus so when He does not do what I would like I can get disappointed and discouraged but when I realize that God does know what is best for me I can take answers like “no” or “wait” just as easily as I take a “yes”.

    Jesus Himself taught that a mortal father gives good gifts to their sons/daughters when asked for(Luke 11:10-12) so how much more should we be given the gift of the Holy Spirit which is the ultimate gift that we should ask for. Luke 11:13

  8. poohpity says:

    I think sometimes when someone says why hasn’t God given me the desire of my heart they forget what the first part of that actually is; Delight yourself in the Lord, and he will give you the desires of your heart.

  9. street says:

    Then the Lord said to Job,

    2
    “Will the faultfinder contend with the Almighty?
    Let him who rebukes God [a]give an answer.”

    3 Then Job answered the Lord and said,

    4
    “Behold, I am insignificant; what can I say in response to You?
    I put my hand on my mouth.
    5
    I have spoken once, and I will not reply;
    Or twice, and I will add nothing more.”
    6 Then the Lord answered Job from the whirlwind and said,

    7
    “Now [b]tighten the belt on your waist like a man;
    I will ask you, and you instruct Me.
    8
    Will you really nullify My judgment?
    Will you condemn Me so that you may be justified?
    9
    Or do you have an arm like God,
    And can you thunder with a voice like His?

    10
    “Adorn yourself with pride and dignity,
    And clothe yourself with honor and majesty.
    11
    Let out your outbursts of anger,
    And look at everyone who is arrogant, and humble him.
    12
    Look at everyone who is arrogant, and humble him,
    And trample down the wicked [c]where they stand.
    13
    Hide them together in the dust;
    Imprison [d]them in the hidden place.
    14
    Then I will also [e]confess to you,
    That your own right hand can save you.
    15
    “Behold, [f]Behemoth, which I made [g]as well as you;
    He eats grass like an ox.
    16
    Behold, his strength in his waist,
    And his power in the muscles of his belly.
    17
    He hangs his tail like a cedar;
    The tendons of his thighs are knit together.
    18
    His bones are tubes of bronze;
    His [h]limbs are like bars of iron.

    19
    “He is the first of the ways of God;
    Let his Maker bring His sword near.
    20
    Indeed the [i]mountains bring him food,
    And all the animals of the field play there.
    21
    He lies down under the lotus plants,
    In the hiding place of the reeds and the marsh.
    22
    The lotus plants cover him with [j]shade;
    The willows of the brook surround him.
    23
    If a river [k]rages, he is not alarmed;
    He is confident, though the Jordan rushes to his mouth.
    24
    Can anyone capture him [l]when he is on watch,
    Can anyone pierce his nose with barbs?
    Job 40: 1-24

    11
    And I said, ‘As far as this point you shall come, but no farther;
    And here your proud waves shall stop’?
    12
    “Have you [a]ever in your life commanded the morning,
    And made the dawn know its place,
    13
    So that it would take hold of the ends of the earth,
    And the wicked would be shaken off from it?
    Job 38:11-13

    28 And he said to them, ‘[a]An enemy has done this!’ The slaves *said to him, ‘Do you want us, then, to go and gather them up?’ 29 But he *said, ‘No; while you are gathering up the weeds, you may uproot the wheat with them. 30 Allow both to grow together until the harvest; and at the time of the harvest I will say to the reapers, “First gather up the weeds and bind them in bundles to burn them; but gather the wheat into my barn.”’”

    no fault in God. yet He paid a sin debt we could never pay. new life in Christ/LORD.

  10. street says:

    looking at the picture mart post with this blog. my best side. my apologizes to the mule. it reminded me of a conversation i had. we were talking about horses and mules in warfare. how the horse would be fearless and eat up the miles in combat. yet the mule would lay down and not move. makes you wonder who the truly smart one is? i understand when Jesus comes back it will be on a white horse fearless in battle to the end of the earth.

  11. street says:

    can not log into My utmost for His Highest comment section.

  12. street says:

    The thought might seem laughably self-contradictory.

    If it is so, why does the God of the Scriptures seem pathologically consumed with his desire for praise and glory?

    because God knows everything else is not worthy of this praise and glory.

    5 However, to the one who does not work but trusts God who justifies the ungodly, their faith is credited as righteousness. 6 David says the same thing when he speaks of the blessedness of the one to whom God credits righteousness apart from works:

    7
    “Blessed are those
    whose transgressions are forgiven,
    whose sins are covered.

    to say the same thing. to be one and not contradictory or divided.

  13. street says:

    10 Now I urge you, brothers and sisters, by the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, that you all [a]agree and that there be no [b]divisions among you, but that you be [c]made complete in the same mind and in the same judgment. 1 Corinthians 1:10

    same Spirit required.

  14. street says:

    he reminded his best friends that he had not come to be served, but to serve?

    to love and lay down His life for His friends.

    the greatest is the servant of all.

    Mark 9:35
    And sitting down, He called the twelve and *said to them, “If anyone wants to be first, he shall be last of all and servant of all.”

  15. jeff1 says:

    Lead me, oh Lord, won’t You lead me?

    I am tired and I need Thy strength and power
    To guide me over my darkest hour
    Lord, just open mine eyes that I may see
    Lead me, oh Lord, won’t You lead me?

    Lead me, guide me along the way
    For if You lead me I cannot stray
    Lord, just open mine eyes that I may see
    Lead me, oh Lord, won’t You lead me?

    I am lost if You take Your hand from me
    I am blind without Thy light to see
    Lord just always let me Thy servant be
    Lead me, oh Lord, won’t You lead me?

    Lead me, guide me along the way
    For if You lead me I cannot stray
    Lord, just open mine eyes that I may see
    Lead me, oh Lord, won’t You lead me?
    Lead me, oh Lord, won’t You lead me?

  16. Beloved says:

    1 Timothy 6:6-12 But godliness with contentment is great gain. For we brought nothing into the world, and we can take nothing out of it. But if we have food and clothing, we will be content with that.

    I listened to spurgeon preach on contentment tonight and it’s not just about food and clothing but about any circumstances we find ourselves; including sickness, wealth, poverty and I thought homeless would be another circumstance where Christians find themselves even. He gave reasons to thank God in every circumstance whatever it is. Now that is humility. He said God surrounds us with exactly and precisely what is good for us, There’s always an opportunity to practice humility by accepting that whatever comes is from the hand of God. It really hit home for me as my recent ‘giving up’ what I thought was my “right” to be loved and respected by my kids has completely turned the situation around. They are helping me move and very happy to do the work it takes. Perhaps if I’d been more humble and less demanding and proud it would have happened sooner- but then I was the stubborn one that God needed to work on. He made me better through my years of pain and suffering. He did it- it’s all His doing. I honestly do “feel” differently- more peaceful following His will and walking in His ways. I could not have even imagined this peace. Praise God. :-)

  17. street says:

    when Jesus is exalted in the highest you can be sure of two things, your on the right road and it’s going to hurt.

    Jesus told the 12 that days were coming that they would long for one of the days He was with them on the earth.

    i suspect we will too. they overcame by the blood of the Lamb.

  18. Beloved says:

    And, if things should suddenly change tomorrow I’m very ok with whatever comes along because our Heavenly Father always “knows best”.

  19. Beloved says:

    when Jesus is exalted in the highest you can be sure of two things, your on the right road and it’s going to hurt.

    I’ve NEVER heard that before but experience has proven it to be true. Now I understand why so many walked away from Him in the gospels. I thought it was going to be difficult at times but not overpowering gut-wrenching pain.

  20. jeff1 says:

    9. “Imagine yourself as a living house. God comes in to rebuild that house. At first, perhaps, you can understand what He is doing. He is getting the drains right and stopping the leaks in the roof and so on; you knew that those jobs needed doing and so you are not surprised. But presently He starts knocking the house about in a way that hurts abominably and does not seem to make any sense. What on earth is He up to? The explanation is that He is building quite a different house from the one you thought of – throwing out a new wing here, putting on an extra floor there, running up towers, making courtyards. You thought you were being made into a decent little cottage: but He is building a palace. He intends to come and live in it Himself.” – C. S. Lewis

  21. jeff1 says:

    Sometimes It Takes a Mountain

    I faced a mountain
    That I never faced before
    That’s why I’m calling on You Lord
    I know it’s been a while
    But Lord please hear my prayer
    I need You like I never have before

    Sometimes it takes a mountain
    Sometimes a troubled sea
    Sometimes it takes a desert
    To get a hold of me
    Your love is so much stronger
    Than whatever troubles me
    Sometimes it takes a mountain
    To trust You and believe

    Forgive me Jesus
    I thought I could control
    Whatever life would throw my way
    But this I will admit
    Has brought me to my knees
    I need You Lord and I’m not ashamed to say

    Sometimes it takes a mountain
    Sometimes a troubled sea
    Sometimes it takes a desert
    To get a hold of me
    Your love is so much stronger
    Than whatever troubles me
    Sometimes it takes a mountain
    To trust You and believe
    Sometimes it takes a mountain
    To trust You and believe

    Sometimes it takes a mountain
    Sometimes a troubled sea
    Sometimes it takes a desert
    To get a hold of me (get a hold, get a hold of me)
    Your love is so much stronger
    Than whatever troubles me
    Sometimes it takes a mountain
    To trust You and believe (trust You and believe)

    Sometimes it takes a mountain
    To trust You and believe

  22. jeff1 says:

    The nearer I get to God the more I see the dirt in myself and the heart is agreeable but the mind is not and there the struggle begins and the memories of past wrongs comes back to haunt me.

    The way others have hurt me and my lack of forgiving them for their offences is a nightmare that recurs in my mind and my heart is torn in two.

    Show me the way that leads to the true life.
    I do not care what tempests may assail me,
    I shall be given courage for the strife;
    I know my strength will not desert or fail me;
    I know that I shall conquer in the fray:
    Show me the way.
    Show me the way up to a higher plane,
    Where body shall be servant to the soul.
    I do not care what tides of woe or pain
    Across my life their angry waves may roll,
    If I but reach the end I seek, some day:
    Show me the way.
    Show me the way, and let me bravely climb
    Above vain grievings for unworthy treasures;
    Above all sorrow that finds balm in time;
    Above small triumphs or belittling pleasures;
    Up to those heights where these things seem child’s-play:
    Show me the way.
    Show me the way to that calm, perfect peace
    Which springs from an inward consciousness of right;
    To where all conflicts with the flesh shall cease,
    And self shall radiate with the spirit’s light.
    Though hard the journey and the strife, I pray,
    Show me the way.

  23. SFDBWV says:

    What’s it all about Alfie…

    I’ve been pondering how to proceed with this subject as I go about my chores. Winter always adds to the things needed dealt with.

    I bought Matt a “Wheel of Fortune” game for Christmas and he is wearing me out playing with him.

    But then that is what part of it is all about.

    Street mentioned the quote from Job about who can contend with God. Obviously no one can.

    In Isaiah God states that He is the Lord, that there is none else, that He girded us even though we don’t know Him, He formed the light and created darkness, He make peace and create evil, He does all these things. (Isaiah 45:5-7 KJV)

    Trying to figure out God is unobtainable. Yet it is clear that a living being who is capable of creation is to be given respect.

    As is becoming a recurring comment of mine in that the story of God, Satan and Job disturbs me, once again I refer to the fact that it appears God is proving something to Satan all the while showing us that as big as He is without equal, He is still capable of humbling Himself for His creation.

    So why does He have to prove anything to Satan? Satan is also a created being, like us?

    I don’t know why, and it isn’t important for me to know why.

    Showing us though seems important enough to God that He is without equal, yet is willing to not only humble Himself for us, but to die as a man for us.

    A perfect example of how He wants for us to live.

    We are not to live to serve ourselves, but to be servers to all others in any way we can.

    Out of time…

    Steve

  24. poohpity says:

    I guess it comes down to does one really love the Lord and trust Him. Then we can know for sure that whatever happens to us it will be turned to good. Although there seems to be a hitch and that hitch is; do you love God and were you called for His purpose. Romans 8:28 NLT

  25. jeff1 says:

    Our anchor grips unmoving ground
    Though storms are fierce, and we so small.
    Though life is pressure all around,
    You hold us steady through it all.
    Soon every storm You will subdue.
    Till then our anchor holds in You.

    You are the ground that holds us still –
    Almighty God, Immanuel.
    Our joy, our peace: Your sovereign will.
    You are the Lord, and all is well.
    Unfailing love in all You do,
    We are forever safe in You.

    Hope is our anchor strong and sure.
    Your timeless Word is always now.
    Our glorious future is secure –
    We don’t know when, we don’t know how.
    We trust Your Word, forever true.
    Our hope, our confidence is You.

  26. Beloved says:

    Moving day and I’m so exhausted already with still my stove to clean. I’m actually hoping they don’t come until tomorrow now but I’m sure my daughter will help me with last minute things. Beyond physically exhausted; really. Pray for strength and help. My son-in-law is putting my new battery in my car when he comes. He has two brothers, ones a doctor and the other a lawyer, he’s a diesel mechanic and runs a large shop. I’ll take a good mechanic any day! So blessed I am:-)

    I will miss my friends here but we can still text and talk on the phone. Looking forward to my move- one day at a time- as always. We never really know what Gods plans are; but they are good. Always. Thank you for your prayers.

    Yesterday my car was sitting at the dealership when I discovered the service dept was closed until Monday! Sales was there but they said they would not jump my car(on the phone). So, went to get the key before they closed so my son-in-law could jump me when he got here today and low and behold to my surprise 2 sales people went out to jump my car and so I was on the road, with a bad battery. I bought a new one at parts store but they couldn’t put it in for me.

    It’s amazing to me how things work out- so to speak- A reminder that God always has a plan for each detail of my life. I so appreciate all the love and support shown by Gods’ Beloveds here. I will get through this- God will make a way!

  27. jeff1 says:

    You have been my strength,
    Everlasting Father.
    You were there to cradle me and soothe my infant cry.
    Now that I am old,
    Gripped by growing weakness,
    Hold me ever closer, O my joy, my hope, my song,
    God, my joy, my song!

    In the face of fear,
    With this body failing,
    I am growing stronger as I trust You need by need.
    Fill each day with praise!
    Flood them all with singing!
    May my every word and deed be always only You,
    Always, only You!

    Everlasting God,
    Faithful, ever faithful,
    Grace and truth and tenderness are always who You are.
    You are all my hope,
    You, my living promise:
    Soon this seed will blossom into everlasting life,
    Rich and endless life.

  28. street says:

    A perfect example of how He wants for us to live.

    a life of trust

    a life of hope

    a life of Love

    in Christ Jesus, Our Lord and Our Salvation.

    not so much as proof but a distinction of light and darkness. an unchanging light where there is no darkness. it seems to me darkness divides and kills with loneliness and emptiness. contrary to God or against God. the fall was complete in Genesis 3, subjected in hope, Salvation realized in Christ Jesus, The light of the World. restored renewed justified glorified by the Spirit that Christ gives.

    The sin of Judah is written with an iron stylus;
    With a diamond point it is engraved on the tablet of their hearts
    And on the horns of [a]their altars,
    2
    As they remember their children,
    So they remember their altars and their [b]Asherim
    By green trees on the high hills.
    3
    Mountain of Mine in the countryside,
    I will turn over your wealth and all your treasures as plunder,
    Your high places for sin throughout your borders.

    25 Then I will sprinkle clean water on you, and you will be clean; I will cleanse you from all your filthiness and from all your idols. 26 Moreover, I will give you a new heart and put a new spirit within you; and I will remove the heart of stone from your flesh and give you a heart of flesh. 27 And I will put My Spirit within you and bring it about that you walk in My statutes, and are careful and [a]follow My ordinances.

    3 Now Joshua was clothed in filthy garments and was standing before the angel. 4 And he responded and said to those who were standing before him, saying, “Remove the filthy garments from him.” Again he said to him, “See, I have taken your guilt away from you and [a]will clothe you with festive robes.” 5 Then I said, “Have them put a clean headband on his head.” So they put the clean headband on his head and clothed him with garments, while the angel of the Lord was standing by.

    The Lord is God, and he has made his light to shine upon us. Bind the festal sacrifice with cords, up to the horns of the altar! esv

    i am thinking bind the sacrifice with festive bows of love to the horn of the altar. paul speaks of a living sacrifice in Romans 12. all the law is fulfilled in loving God not sinful self absorption. we love because He first loved us. love doesn’t come from this world of darkness. love is revealed at the cross of Christ foolishness to the greeks and a stumbling block to the jews.

    3 And the Lord said to Satan, “Have you considered my servant Job, that there is none like him on the earth, a blameless and upright man, who fears God and turns away from evil? He still holds fast his integrity, although you incited me against him to destroy him without reason.” 4 Then Satan answered the Lord and said, “Skin for skin! All that a man has he will give for his life. 5 But stretch out your hand and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse you to your face.” 6 And the Lord said to Satan, “Behold, he is in your hand; only spare his life.”

    spare his life? a life that is only possible with God. apart from God there is nothing. a life that is drawn closer to God, to see His Face. yes adam and eve were given a choice on how they wanted to know God. even in the choice God chose to make the tree of life available in Christ Jesus. even to know what we are apart from Him. yes that part needs to die with Christ at the cross. a cross taken up daily. before the face of God.

    what Jesus did….

  29. street says:

    beloved when replacing a battery is is a good idea to make sure the alternator is working properly if it is more than 7 years old or 100000 miles. i would replace it any ways when it is cold and that old. you can get more years out of it though depending on use and environment. hope it’s a maintenance free battery, many people don’t check the water level.

    this makes me think, what would it be like with an incorruptible body???? some day. we will be like Him.

  30. street says:

    Do they sound like One who, not far north of Tekoa, allowed himself to be misunderstood, mocked, and crucified— to express a love greater than our own— and without which we would remain alone, together and yet hopelessly estranged— in this life, and the one to come?

  31. street says:

    A Wise Woman from Tekoa
    May 5th, 2020

  32. street says:

    Why would he demand that we love him?

    thinking of the Father waiting for the son to return. somethings you have to find out on your own.

  33. foreverblessed says:

    I pray everything is ok with you Beloved, and with your family.

    The donkey!
    My husband got a Christmas present, it is a book about murals in our city. Every mural has a story connected to it.
    On mural is a little girl with a donkey-head on. Two big donkey ears.
    The story connected to it is this:
    When the Germans invaded our country in May 1940, this city was in the frontline, so the major ordered that people leave the town. On foot mostly, or with a bike, to put all their stuff on.
    One family started walking south, toward Belgium, when they come to a village where they wanted to enter a school to stay. At that precise moment a man with a donkey passes, and the donkey starts to protest and balk greatly. The man thinks: this donkey is warning me for a disaster that is coming. So he does not go into the school but goes to a nearby monastery to find shelter.
    A little later the school is bombed by the Germans. And about a hundred deaths.

  34. SFDBWV says:

    I love that story Foreverblessed. It defines my life. The Lord has always been involved. In mysterious and obvious ways. There is just something encouraging about hearing of or living such events.

    Steve

  35. foreverblessed says:

    Isn’t that awesome Steve, I am very happy that it touches you too!
    God is with us, and shows in many signs and wonders that He sees us, even though the present suffering is not changed.
    Not yet.

    This morning I read about Jesus’ sacrifice:

    —“made a curse for us”
    —“bare our sins”
    —“hath laid on him the iniquity of us all”
    —“made to be sin for us”
    —“offered to bear the sins of many”
    —“borne our griefs and carried our sorrows”
    —“wounded for our transgressions, bruised for our iniquities”—“tasted death for every man.”

    Speaking about humility, and a great Love to be willing to do that for us.

  36. jeff1 says:

    In Christ alone my hope is found
    He is my light, my strength, my song
    This cornerstone, this solid ground
    Firm through the fiercest drought and storm
    What heights of love, what depths of peace
    When fears are stilled, when strivings cease
    My comforter, my all in all
    Here in the love of Christ I stand

    In Christ alone who took on flesh
    Fullness of God in helpless babe
    This gift of love and righteousness
    Scorned by the ones He came to save
    Till on that cross as Jesus died
    The wrath of God was satisfied
    For every sin on Him was laid
    Here in the death of Christ I live

    There in the ground His body lay
    Light of the world by darkness slain
    Then bursting forth in glorious day
    Up from the grave He rose again
    And as He stands in victory
    Sin’s curse has lost its grip on me
    For I am His and He is mine
    Bought with the precious blood of Christ

    No guilt in life, no fear in death
    This is the power of Christ in me
    From life’s first cry to final breath
    Jesus commands my destiny
    No power of hell, no scheme of man
    Can ever pluck me from His hand
    Till He returns or calls me home
    Here in the power of Christ I’ll stand

  37. foreverblessed says:

    Revelation 1:18
    For it is only because ‘He both died and rose and revived’ that He, in the truest and properest sense, becomes the gift of life to us men. The alabaster box was broken, and the house was filled with the odour of the ointment. Christ’s death is the world’s life. Christ’s resurrection is the pledge and the source of eternal life for us.

    (MacLaren notes.)

    Jesus was willing, humble, to be broken 💔
    For us

  38. Beloved says:

    If it is so, why does the God of the Scriptures seem pathologically consumed with his desire for praise and glory?
    Why would he demand that we love him?

    I believe it’s because if we don’t love God first, we can’t really love others. Why? Because He IS love as John said and shows us what real love looks like.

    Deuteronomy 6:4Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is One.a 5And you shall love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your strength.b

    Mark 12:30-31
    30 Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind and with all your strength.’[a](A) 31 The second is this: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b](B) There is no commandment greater than these.”

  39. Beloved says:

    Deuteronomy says put your whole being into loving God.

    Jesus said now that you’ve done that to turn and love your neighbor. Seems like somehow or another Gods love rubs off on us to share with others. It’s a win win situation ❤️

  40. foreverblessed says:

    How are you doing Beloved?
    Did the move go well?

  41. Beloved says:

    Forever I’m very tired and sore of course but a couple hours ago we got everything moved into my apt. My daughter has been so loving and kind so I am enjoying that aspect. And my grandkids and a friend helped so much. I’m relaxing with a mocha coffee sitting in the sun! I have not seen the sun for 5 years unless I went outside so this feels wonderful!
    I have a wonderful view of this smaller town from the top: the 5th floor! 2 elevators also.

    My grandson who is a finance manager of the Chevy dealership in town actually drove my car back here and said I got a very good deal and a very nice driving car so that was good to hear. I always second guess myself prepared to deal with the consequences so this felt like God saving me the trouble🤣 I cause my own self. Thank you street for the tip. It is a 2013 Ford Escape with 85,000 miles so recognize it’s in the beginning stage of things breaking, but it’s fine for me as I don’t even drive more than 2 days a week at most around town.

  42. Beloved says:

    Forever I too enjoyed the donkey story.

    My grandson who drove my car down here shared how he was working in another town in sales and had almost decided to move there but he just didn’t quite feel it was a right move when he got called to work in this town with a promotion! Saving many miles, gas, and happy to be where he grew up. He said God had arranged it. We had some great conversations on the 3 hour ride. So good to catch up and begin our relationship again.

  43. jeff1 says:

    Our hearts can’t explain
    The loss and the pain,
    The sorrow and strain
    As we follow our Guide.

    But Father, You bless
    Each need we confess,
    Each gift we possess
    Through the seasons of life.

    Your love is the sea,
    The treasure, the key,
    The peace that can be
    Through all darkness and light.

    So weak and so small,
    We struggle, we fall.
    You carry us all
    Through the seasons of life.

    Your love is the sea,
    The treasure, the key,
    The peace that can be
    Through all darkness and light.

    Though endless the change,
    Though little remain,
    Our Father, You reign
    Through the seasons of life.

  44. street says:

    Psalm 118:27
    The Lord is God, and he has made his light to shine upon us. Bind the festal sacrifice with cords, up to the horns of the altar!

    Blessed be the Lord God of Israel,
    For He has visited us and accomplished redemption for His people,
    69
    And has raised up a horn of salvation for us
    In the house of His servant David—

    no longer an alter of dead sacrifices God has raise up a Living Sacrifice. a horn raised up in the house of David.

    bound by a festive love and joy. peace on earth . Merry Christmas!!!

  45. SFDBWV says:

    I am so very happy for you Joyce. An answer to prayer and a gift from God.

    To God be the glory.

    Steve

  46. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks Beloved, I am so happy for you, for the reconciliation, for sharing your story, that when you let go and let God, then your family was given back to you.
    Such an encouragement to do the same, to hand my family, my closest ones in the hands of Jesus, and trust Him completely that He is capable of dealing with them.

    In the mean time, I want to grow closer to Jesus, Jesus is do close to me, but I am distracted in many ways.
    The closer I am, the more effective Jesus can work through me.

    It is so easy: just share everything with Jesus!
    But my own will interferes.
    Let go and let God.

    (I read in todays Utmost, in one of the comments, Chambers speaks to the will, but Spurgeon speaks to the heart ❤️

  47. foreverblessed says:

    This past night I really had some struggles, I was thinking: God is all powerful, but God will not overrun free will. So He stands at the door of each person, and knocks.
    Jesus is like a Beggar.
    He knocks and knocks, and keeps knocking.
    Just like the OT story of Israel and God, the patience God had with an obstinate people.

    But in my thinking it sank low, God is gentle, He will not force Himself, like all human Masters and Lords do. Is He then not powerless?

    I prayed and prayed, and then in my mind the passage of Zechariah appeared:
    “And I will pour out on the house of David and the inhabitants of Jerusalem a spirit (or the Spirit) of grace and supplication.
    They will look on Me, the One they have pierced, and mourn for Him as one mourns for an only child, and grieve bitterly for him as one grieves for a firstborn son.”
    Zechariah 12:10

    Mart had a topic on this passage a few years ago, and it was an eye opener for me. What a great future thing is going to happen.

    God opens their hearts!
    It comforted me greatly and I fell asleep.

  48. foreverblessed says:

    The Bible verse of the day, on gateway is:

    Do not let your heart’s be troubled.
    Believe in God, in Me also believe.
    In My Father’s house are many mansions, if it were not so, I would have told you.
    I am going there to prepare a place for you.
    And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with Me that you also may be where I am.

    John 14:1-3

  49. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed that passage of Scripture I read over and over to my mother as she lay dying.

    Of course the message I thought to be strengthening and encouraging her, was meant for me.

    Snowing…

    Steve

  50. jeff1 says:

    Sovereign, all-transcending Lord,
    Holy mystery, feared, adored,
    In Your mighty Son we see
    All Your love’s humility.

    Christ the Lion, now the Lamb,
    Gives Himself, the great I AM.
    Christ, the Prince of Paradise,
    Dies a slaughtered sacrifice.

    Christ the Victor, in defeat,
    Makes Your victory all complete.
    As He prays His final breath,
    Sovereign life now swallows death.

    In His conquering strength we see
    Deep and glorious mystery
    Glowing from Your heart above:
    Holy, fierce, all-conquering love.

  51. jeff1 says:

    If humility is not at the heart of our Father’s nature, why would his Son’s humility— be the evidence of his love, his glory, his reason for being born… and our reason for loving him?

    Maybe I’m missing something. :-)

    Why do we see God so differently?

    I’ve come too far to look back
    My feet have walked through the valley
    I’ve climbed mountains, crossed rivers
    Desert places I’ve known
    But I’m nearing the home shore
    The redeemed are rejoicing
    Heaven’s angels are singing
    I’ve come too far to look back
    Look around, there’s no happiness
    There’s no reason for living
    Life will give you a broken dream
    Filled with heartaches and fear
    Turn around and don’t look back again
    Face the new day before you
    Place your heartache in Jesus hand
    He will mend broken dreams
    I’ve come too far to look back again
    There is nothing behind me
    All the treasures I used to love
    Have all faded from view
    There’s a new day ahead for me
    All my heartache is over
    For I left it at Calvary
    Where my new life began
    REPEAT TAG
    Heaven’s angels are singing
    I’ve come too far to look back

  52. poohpity says:

    To me it seems that the thinking that “the God of the Scriptures seem pathologically consumed with his desire for praise and glory?” is exactly what the devil would have us believe. Also that God is not a good and loving God would also be the handy work of the devil.

    When we do not get our way it is the work of the rulers of the unseen world that would cause us to doubt that God does not have our very best in mind. I think now-a-days the powers of darkness are running rampaged throughout the world right now and for some they have fallen into his desire to get us to turn away from God.

    We can and do fill our minds with all kinds of garbage to distract us from who we are in Christ but rather fills us with discouragement, disillusionment and discontent. Human beings it seems would rather complain than be thankful and filled with joy.

    Praising and worshiping God is not a pathology but from a heart that acknowledges who God is and the awesome power that He holds just in His words alone. Sadly God is not first or foremost in one’s life but an after thought then one can come away with all kinds of assumptions about who God is and judge His actions. If people would have followed His guidelines to live life they would have found that they bring an abundant life in relationship with the almighty God. If our desires would be for God first then the desires we have in all other areas would be quite different don’t you think?

    It seems the very first contact between satan and mankind was to prompt them to question the intentions, goodness and love of God.

  53. SFDBWV says:

    Somewhere along the line it should become obvious to us that we cannot figure out God nor His ways.

    That in trying to do so only exposes our ignorance.

    What should matter is that a man named Jesus of Nazareth who though born in what then would have been the most humblest of circumstances was and is the Creator of all things, the Author of life and His own sacrifice for you and I.

    It is why I have some times stated that I admire and even envy those who don’t feel the need to know everything, just simply believe.

    When you or I create, we generally do so only by expressing our selves or our inner beings. Our art, even our conversations tend to be only an extension of ourselves.

    Yet when God created, look at what exists and begin to see that He is without limit and unobtainable except through the man, Jesus of Nazareth.

    Steve

  54. street says:

    forever 12 But [a]as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who [b]believe in His name, 13 who were [c]born, not of [d]blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of a man, but of God. 14 And the Word became flesh, and dwelt among us; and we saw His glory, glory as of the only Son from the Father, full of grace and truth.

    we have The Word Written on/in our hearts/new hearts and given a Holy Spirit/ a new life in Christ Jesus.

    2 And [a]you [b]were dead [c]in your offenses and sins, 2 in which you previously walked according to the [d]course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, of the spirit that is now working in the [e]sons of disobedience. 3 Among them [f]we too all previously lived in the lusts of our flesh, [g]indulging the desires of the flesh and of the [h]mind, and were by nature children of wrath, just as the rest. 4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead [i]in our wrongdoings, made us alive together [j]with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and “seated” us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7 so that in the ages to come He might show the [k]boundless riches of His grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus. 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith; and [l]this is not of yourselves, it is the gift of God; 9 not a result of works, so that no one may boast. 10 For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand so that we would walk in them.

    15 “I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He [a]prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already [b]clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in Me, [c]and I in you. Just as the branch cannot bear fruit [d]of itself [e]but must remain in the vine, so neither can you unless you remain in Me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches; the one who remains in Me, and I in him [f]bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not remain in Me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you remain in Me, and My words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so [g]prove to be My disciples. 9 Just as the Father has loved Me, I also have loved you; remain in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love. 11 These things I have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full.

    it is a work of God.

  55. street says:

    all Glory and Honor to God!!!

  56. jeff1 says:

    I have had glimpses of God throughout my life that speaks of God’s greatness, mercy and love.

    That doesn’t mean my life has been a bed of roses in fact anything but i.e. war, mental illness, addictions, relationship problems and grief have affected my well being but to my way of thinking that just helps me to see that my need of God is greater than His need of me.

    Some truths are much more obvious than others.

  57. street says:

    blessed are those who believe and have not seen.

  58. jeff1 says:

    Just like Steve says I have known many with the simplest of faith and envied them and in truth it has been those people who have had the greatest influence on my own faith.

    There is something miraculous in seeing someone whose belief in God cannot be shaken especially in todays world where many are fallen away from belief in God.

  59. bullwinkle11 says:

    The Lord, the Lord, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness.
    Exodus 34:6
    ODB speaks about this very issue this morning. God has shown compassion throughout mans’ history, yet as Pooh states, Satan would want us to question God’s goodness.

    Have a Happy New Year all and continue to pray for our nation. I fear that evil forces are working to turn this nation away from God and will do everything possible to steal our government and impose their will.

  60. jeff1 says:

    We Cannot Thwart God, Genesis 27-29. God works His will perfectly among men and is never thwarted by their sin. No matter what Satan does to destroy God’s plan, that plan still goes forth exactly as ordained.

    I find this a welcome thought today as your nation is not the only one under threat but it does seem to be their time in history but I remember man divides for all the wrong reasons while God does it to bring about His Kingdom on earth and that may seem like a mountainous task from where I am standing but God has, does and always will know best.

    See His Kingdom come in power,
    Christ in glory on display,
    On the mountain now transfigured,
    But the glow soon fades away.
    See His burning indignation
    Sweep His holy house of prayer.
    Hear the bleating of the greedy
    Soon return to soil the air.

    See Him ride, the Son of David,
    Watch Him bask in joyful praise.
    Soon the anger, soon the sorrow,
    Soon the silence of the grave.
    Go with Mary! Share her wonder!
    He is risen as He said!
    But His children, bound in suffering,
    One by one will join the dead.

    See His Kingdom come in power!
    See it growing all around!
    Lives are singing loud hosannas,
    Joy is dancing to the sound!
    Christ our King is ever with us,
    And He always goes before,
    All His life a living promise,
    Hope secure and so much more!

  61. poohpity says:

    Someone said earlier that we can not figure God out or His ways but isn’t that what Jesus showed us? Jesus revealed God to us. He showed us His ways and taught us what God wants from us. We may not be privy to why God does what He does or the ways in which He will work but knowing Him and experiencing Him in our lives we are given what we “Need to Know”. Just like anyone we really love we want to grow deeper in that relationship and get to know them and through that getting to know them we learn about their character and who they really are so even when we do not know why God does the things He does, we can trust.

    Now-a-days people trust people without any reason to do so and the very One who has our best in mind we seem to not trust.

  62. SFDBWV says:

    Unless I am missing something we are made in the image of God and once we accept Jesus as Lord and Baptized with the Holy Spirit, we grow into the nature of Jesus the Christ.

    His nature becomes our nature.

    One of those odd verses of Scripture that seems unusual is given by Paul when he says “Know you not that we shall judge angels?” (1 Corinthians 6:3 KJV)

    Against what ethical conduct or law do you suppose we are to judge angels?

    The subject of Paul’s dissertation is that we are to settle things between believers with the authority to make judgement calls ourselves and not outside of the circle of our brotherhood.

    God of the OT judged very harshly and even in the NT He demanded the death of His only begotten Son as a means of freeing mankind from the slavery of sin and reconciling us with Him.

    Jesus even goes so far as to warn us that how we judge is how we will be judged.

    Judged?

    I thought we escaped judgement by the sacrifice of Jesus?

    Then there is the judgement seat of Christ. Romans 14:10 KJV and 2 Corinthians 5:10 KJV.

    We have the God who demands and the God who forgives.

    How then are we to proceed as followers of Jesus? We are given instruction by the only one who is capable of doing what He demands of us.

    How is it possible to be judged against His nature? Seeing that we all fall short of being able to be exactly like Him.

    Indeed we should be humbled by the one who judges us.

    Steve

  63. jeff1 says:

    I believe my relationship with God will be very different to another’s as God works to our needs and not our wants something that we seem to forget all too quickly.

    My weakness is of the mind while it was my dad’s strength so allow God to work as He sees fit and not as you think He should.

    Pooh, you seem to have a very ‘easy’ relationship with God from what you are saying but mine has been much more ‘rocky’.

    You are accepting of God while I would say I have tried God’s patience and that is down to my critical and questioning nature.

    To get to know God better you need to get to know your own faults first and that as been a slow process for me saying as how I spent so much time looking at others sins i.e. the fighting in my country distracted me from my own sins because Satan is crafty as I have discovered.

    I may not find it easy to figure out God but experiences in life have taught me that I really do need to trust Him as they speak of poor judgements on my part when it comes to knowing myself or others.

    It has been said of me that I am too trusting a nature and perhaps why I seem to fall foul in finding people are rarely what they say they are.

    I think it is taking my eyes of Jesus that disturbs my peace yet I must be a devil for punishment as it doesn’t stop me from doing it!

  64. Beloved says:

    I looked up Colossians 1:27 then did a google search for “Got questions.org”. It very well answers the question about what it means to have Christ in us as believers.

    Question: “What does it mean that Christ in us is the hope of glory?”

    Answer: Colossians 1:27 is a powerful verse: “God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.”

    Let’s start by clarifying that the apostle Paul is writing to believers in Jesus Christ—the “you” whom he addresses. He calls them “the Lord’s people” in the previous verse (Colossians 1:26). The “Gentiles” are non-Jewish people. A “mystery” in the New Testament is simply something that was hidden in times past but has now been revealed by God. The former mystery, now understood, is that Christ in us is the hope of our future glory.

    In the Old Testament, the Holy Spirit came upon certain people to empower them for service, but then He would leave again. New Testament believers have a different experience, as the Spirit indwells us permanently. The permanent indwelling of the Holy Spirit given to New Testament believers was a “mystery” to the Old Testament saints. After Jesus ascended to heaven, He sent the Holy Spirit to live within us, never to leave (John 14:16–17; 16:7). Jesus told His disciples, “On that day you will realize that I am in my Father . . . and I am in you” (John 14:20).

    The Holy Spirit seals us for the day of redemption (Ephesians 4:30). In other words, the Spirit’s presence in our hearts guarantees our ultimate salvation. Though we are in this world, we are not of it (John 17:16). God will continue to work in us until He is finished perfecting us (see Philippians 1:6). This forward-looking guarantee of perfection is what is meant by “Christ in you, the hope of glory.” The J. B. Phillips translation of Colossians 1:27 puts it this way: “The secret is simply this: Christ in you! Yes, Christ in you bringing with him the hope of all glorious things to come.”

  65. street says:

    Haggai 2

  66. jeff1 says:

    From glory descending,
    Completely depending,
    You trusted Your Father
    And lived to obey.
    In speaking and doing,
    His pleasure pursuing,
    You joyfully listened
    And followed by faith.
    Through weakness came power,
    A strength every hour.
    Though empty, You gave with
    A heart unafraid,
    Secure in the knowing
    And full in the flowing
    Of God in His fullness
    Each moment by faith.

    Lord Jesus, You lead us
    To faith that can free us,
    So trusting and humble,
    We bow and obey.
    In speaking and doing,
    Your pleasure pursuing,
    We joyfully listen
    And follow by faith.
    Through weakness comes power,
    A strength every hour.
    Though empty, we give with
    A heart unafraid,
    Secure in the knowing
    And full in the flowing
    Of Your mighty Spirit
    Each moment by faith.

  67. poohpity says:

    Viv, I do not know if my relationship with God could be considered “easy”. I just turned to Him when I realized exactly how broken I was and had tried to fix things myself but failed often so I know I needed Him to work in me, so I asked Him to. I still have struggles, hardships, trials, suffering, doubts but now I know I am not alone in them ALL. I devoted my life to Him but the submission part has been a process over many, many years that I still have not reached yet. I have experienced His presence, His answered prayers and just the feeling of His nearness when I call. But that is available for everyone who desires to be close to Him, He knows who wants that and He knows who doesn’t want Him around often so He does not seem to force this relationship on anyone.

  68. jeff1 says:

    Isn’t that what matters knowing God cares and doesn’t forsake us as I have spent so much of my life running from God believing what other people told me about Him.

    As far as struggles and suffering go I don’t know anyone who goes through life without them as it is usually that which drives people to trust God or run from Him depending on their beliefs about Him.

    We are very blessed if we find out this side of Heaven that God loves us for there are many who seem to see Him as an angry God whose out to get them for their failings and that’s not me judging but observing how others see Him.

    My dad always taught me to focus on Christ but that’s not the teaching many get so its not surprising there are such varied views on God.

  69. saled says:

    The Humility of God.

    Mart asks why the God of the scriptures seems pathologically consumed with his desire for praise and glory. Why would he demand that we love him? I think praise and worship is one way that he gives himself to us. Hard to understand why it is commanded. In my experience it is something that happens unexpectedly, and isn’t something that can be created on demand.

    I’m glad that Mart brought up the manger, the borrowed animal trough, in this post. It reminded me of his August 19th post, The Vision of Aquinas. A quote from that post: “I can write no more. I have see things that make my writing seem like straw.” And then Mart went on to say that we hope somehow that “words, reason, and common sense are important, important like the straw that cradled a son-”

    This post about Thomas of Aquinas and his end of life vision has given me great hope for my own straw filled life. It seems like the pandemic has intensified the feeling that my efforts are useless, straw in comparison to what is needed. The needs all around me are so great and I fall so far short of meeting them. What great hope in the idea that these efforts are important like the straw that cradled a son.

    Although I’ve posted very little during this pandemic, I’ve been here a lot as a reader. It was reading Mart’s March 13th post Prelude to a Standing Offer that opened my eyes to the great suffering that was to come. Let me quote: “Seems to me that down through the ages words of comfort, hope, and reassurance were spoken and written as our God lovingly and realisticly allowed people like us to be brought to the end of themselves and to a necessary loss of confidence in our idols. So unexpectedly-and yet probably so predictably-this all seems so mercifully painful, and personally, nationally, and globally humbling-as a prelude to the offer of comport that remains.”

    And in the Dec. 14th post One Thought, some of you discussed the reason for suffering. Sometime early in the summer, this phrase from Philippians 3:10 came to mind.” the fellowship of his sufferings.” We’ve seen a lot of suffering in the past 10 months. The virus has only recently begun to have an impact here in my part of Maine, but the threat of it pushed many who were teetering on the edge over the side. I, along with all of us, now know some forms of the suffering that Jesus carried to the cross that I didn’t know before. We have seen the world fall apart for so many people in so many ways. “Mercifully painful and personally, nationally, and globally humbling.” Maybe the purpose of suffering is that we might more fully understand the the glory of the ultimate redemption of the world, the righting of the wrongs that we’ll see take place when Jesus returns.

  70. Beloved says:

    Saled it’s good to hear from you. I immediately thought of the book Silence by Endo as one I’d mentioned to you a while back and just thinking about the humility of God portrayed in it.

    Have you been teaching in school? Or from home?

  71. street says:

    after reading a piper post about not wasting your life and then reading saled post about putting it together. Jesus comment of the 3 shocking events where people perished unless you repent you will too. repent in this contexts to me is to admit God is right and you need help. God provides life in Christ Jesus. repent, to establish a relationship with God, by trusting in the One He sent. spending time with the Word made flesh.

    bread from heaven, living water.

  72. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you sooo much Sales for your comment.
    And rehearsing what Mart had written recent times.

    That topic about Aquinas has made a deep impression on me:
    The great importance of the Broken Body and the poured out blood of Jesus Christ.
    The immense value to us.
    Everything can be redeemed.
    No matter how bad things have gone and may go, God’s Redemption is always at the horizon.

    And I pray it is a reality in our lives, now: Today!

  73. foreverblessed says:

    About suffering, when I was young I thought only the suffering for the sake of Christ, is the suffering that is promised for christians, those who are followers of Jesus. All other suffering is just the result of this broken world.
    But…..then there is Job, the illness that was inflicted on him, was because he was God’s chosen.
    “Have you seen Job?” God even points Job out to Satan.
    It was so to speak: for the sake of Christ.
    God allowed it.
    How do I not know that our illness as a Christian is something that God allows, to show the evil world that a real child of God loves God unconditionally. As did Job, he did not give up on God, because of all his suffering.
    (Though he did have some tough questions for God. )

    With an honoust heart we can approach God with our questions.
    To have childlike faith does not mean that we cannot have questions. Children ask a lot of questions.
    Mine did anyway, “Mommy” “Mommy”
    The whole day questions. God must sometimes feel like a Mommy, with all the questions asked by His children.
    The answer is way over our heads. Just as for the disciples, who could not comprehend that Jesus was going to die on a Cross.
    That this apparent defeat was actually a big Victory.

    Jesus was:
    “I am the First and the Last.
    I am the Living One;
    I was dead, and now look, I am alive for ages and ages!
    And I hold the keys of death and Hades”.

    I became dead, says the Greek, as He became Flesh
    Rev 1:17-18

    Way over our heads.

  74. jeff1 says:

    poohpity says:
    December 30, 2020 at 6:11 pm

    I see from your comments you may have misunderstood what I said.

    I was not implying that you did not have struggles, doubt or suffering in your life but that you are more patient in accepting them and what I was trying to explain is that I have tried God’s patience in having questioned i.e. asking why this, why that, which does not speak of trusting God but comes from a critical Spirit and not one of humility.

    I can tell the difference as my dad had humility and that is because is trust of God was unshakable i.e. he never tried to defend God by second guessing what He was doing when their was suffering and always pointed me to how much more Christ suffered for us as a better explanation.

    That wasn’t the answer I wanted from my dad so I listened to my friends who would quote me scripture to show how God was an angry God and because I was an angry person I believed them and not my dad.

    In my arrogance I thought I knew better than him but experience of life has a way of teaching us and after my dad died I would get to see just how right he was in knowing God and how the truth hurts much more especially when you have lost the humility that binds your heart to God’s.

    I would soon find that when I stopped looking at the sins of those who were waring in my country there was a much more deadly sin lurking inside of me and its name ‘pride’.

    My dad was gentle in nature and never responded in kind to my outbursts of political and religious bigotry that filled the air when I was in my prideful state of:

    “We shall not be moved”.

    I had not learned what my dad knew that pride comes before a fall i.e. If a person is too arrogant, he or she will make a mistake or fail in a big way.

    My dad knew that we can all too easily bring destruction on ourselves and blame everyone but ourselves when it comes to the consequences and that is what happens when I don’t keep my eyes on Christ and decide to play God rather than follow Him!

    I do not think it is way over my head to understand that Christ suffered and died for ‘my sins’ yet why is it that ‘Christians’ and I use the ‘word lightly’ will very quickly point to the ‘Romans and Jews’ as having crucified Christ so He died for my sins when it suits me to see it that way and He died for others sins when it does not.

    Perhaps someone can refer me to scripture where it says I get to choose who are the ‘Saints and who are the Sinners’ because that is where it gets ‘Way over my head’.

  75. Beloved says:

    Viv when I was little I recall someone saying the Jews killed Jesus- Hitler himself used that against them. The shocker is that they DID kill Jesus by the decision of their minds while the Romans (pagans) killed Him with their body (force). Generally speaking both you and I (sinners) killed Jesus but He fooled everyone by rising again after taking every sin with Him to permanent death. The perfect Lamb of God the whole world was looking for but didn’t know it. It was, however prophesied by God way back in the beginning. Genesis 3:15 I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and her offspring; he shall bruise your head, and you shall bruise his heel.”

  76. Beloved says:

    We have to decide if Caesar (ruling figurehead) is LORD, or Jesus. One is worldly the Other is not of this world. Letting go of this world is hard because of the grip it has on us. But we take heart as Jesus has overcome the world!

    Praise His holy name! Jesus😊

  77. jeff1 says:

    I think Beloved you have just explained why the world is so messed up since we all have truths then we all have someone to blame when it comes to giving us answers.

    I don’t see how that helps us to understand God better or are we just happy to have these truths to apportion blame.

    Me personally I am tired of the ‘blame game’ I seem to have been playing it all my life having been born into a cultural and religious divide and I come away with the thinking that we are each as bad as each other and I am surprised that God wants anything to do with us.

    One thinking they are better than the other just doesn’t seem right to my way of thinking and I don’t see that anything has changed so I put it to you that you and I change God and that is not the way it is supposed to be if I have been taught to believe anything it is that I am to be conformed to God’s image and not He mine and it troubles me that I seem to be far from God’s ways.

  78. foreverblessed says:

    It occurs to me that Jeff has experienced that what is developing right now in the US, the two sidedness. The antagonism.
    I do believe that the father of Jeff has a message for the Americans: God doesn’t take sides.
    He loves all, the oppressed and the oppressors.
    And He wants to comfort both of them.
    He wants to redeem both of them.
    The Redemption is for all.

  79. Beloved says:

    We are all far from Gods ways Viv. Dying to self, our felt needs is overcome through faith in God by believing. It’s a journey. Yet we go on rejoicing no matter the trial.

  80. Beloved says:

    We never know how many enemies we really have until we watch the news or talk to our family or neighbor. Jesus said forgive. Best to look to Jesus for help comfort but we don’t often get answers but to trust Him. Although the larger answer is “sin”.

  81. Beloved says:

    I never really recognized how sinful I was until I met Jesus. Even as a former church member I had no idea but because I was a “good” girl after I got married thought everything was fine; until I met Jesus. Blinders removed. Just like Saul of Tarsus.

  82. street says:

    could it be that suffering is the chosen instrument to conform us to the image of Christ? if this is true how does grace figure into this process? or even mercy?

    dose suffering remove shallowness, hardness, or weeds?

    was thinking about a piece of land being burnt to remove the weeds for a future planting. the roots are still there and will grow back. i was thinking my efforts where for nothing.

    read this today about the roots under the soil.

    4 [a]“Surely the day is coming; it will burn like a furnace. All the arrogant and every evildoer will be stubble, and the day that is coming will set them on fire,” says the Lord Almighty. “Not a root or a branch will be left to them. 2 But for you who revere my name, the sun of righteousness will rise with healing in its rays. And you will go out and frolic like well-fed calves. 3 Then you will trample on the wicked; they will be ashes under the soles of your feet on the day when I act,” says the Lord Almighty. MALACHI 4

    thinking about angles/messengers gathering up… 40 So just as the weeds are gathered up and burned with fire, so shall it be at the [a]end of the age. 41 The Son of Man will send forth His angels, and they will gather out of His kingdom [b]all stumbling blocks, and those who commit lawlessness,

    thinking of a refiners fire….a smelter sitting and waiting. till He can see Himself in the gold/silver. Holy/Just.

    I became dead, says the Greek, as He became Flesh
    Rev 1:17-18

    Way over our heads.

    i. self-centered/self-righteous becomes dead, as Christ becomes Flesh/in me. He increases, i decrease. it is not i who lives but Christ lives in me.
    I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; Galatians 2:20a

    by the Spirit of Christ, through trust. the gift of God.

    thinking Romans 8:13 again and of two masters. Romans 8:13 for if you are living in accord with the flesh, you are going to die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. John 10:10
    The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I came so that they would have life, and have it abundantly.

    to be subordinate to The One Who loves us and is Looking out for our Good, for He is Good. He is familiar with suffering. He is our guide/Lord.

  83. street says:

    The gift of God. the substitution death of Christ. to be received. He’s not dead! He lives. Emmanuel.

    He’s not dead and He’s not unjust.

    we were led to believe otherwise.

    now i find i am dead and unjust!!!

    8 Therefore there is now no condemnation at all for those who are in Christ Jesus. 2 For the law of the Spirit of life [a]in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.

    For the “Rule/Sovereignty” of the Spirit of life [a]in Christ Jesus has set you free from the law of sin and of death.

  84. Regina says:

    Good Afternoon, All

    ((HAPPY)) NEW YEAR’S EVE to all who love (or even like) this blog home! Have enjoyed reading some of the comments on this blog topic, and will read the rest later on. WOW… Can it be believed?? We have reached the very last day of this uniquely historical year of our Lord Jesus—2020. I’m sure you will agree with me that we will *never* forget several defining moments that occurred this year (e.g. the pandemic, the race for a vaccine, transition of power in the white house, the BLM movement, etc.). From the beginning of the year until the end, it was filled with shocking and even more shocking events. I don’t know why, but this year of double (20/20) or quadruple (10/10/10/10) digits brought to mind the birth of Esau and Jacob (Genesis 25:21-26). Verses 23-24; 26: The Lord said to Rebekah…”Two nations are in your womb, and two peoples from within you will be separated; one people will be stronger than the other, and the older will serve the younger… there were twin boys in her womb… the younger brother came out with his hand grasping the elder brother’s heel.”

    I don’t think any of us have ever seen a year like this one, and it’s entirely possible that we may never see another like it again. Well, that’s my “end of the year” reflections, and now I want to share my thoughts on a portion of Mart’s intro comment.

    Side Note: I haven’t read Saled’s comment because my comment may be similar, and, if it is, it will be a genuine similarity.

    Mart said, “The thought might seem laughably self-contradictory.

    If it is so, why does the God of the Scriptures seem pathologically consumed with his desire for praise and glory?

    Why would he demand that we love him?”

    I think God is more desirous of our *absolute devotion* to Him—that we would refuse to love anything or anyone MORE THAN WE LOVE HIM—and not only does He want us to love Him with, “all our heart, soul, strength and mind…” He also wants us to love our neighbor as we love our self. (Luke 10:27)

    If we see His request in the natural—as a “demand for love”—we may not be provoked to love Him. But I’m persuaded and deeply provoked to LOVE Him because I know how much He LOVES me! John 3:16 comes to mind… “For God so *loved* the world, that he gave his only begotten Son…” I’m also provoked to love my neighbor—borne out of the gratitude in my heart, mind and soul for His love for me. Further, I LOVE God—Father, Son and Holy Spirit—because no one else has the capability or the desire to LOVE me as much as He does.

    So, I don’t see God’s request (or demand) that I love Him as an actual “DEMAND”—I see it as an honor, a privilege and a PURE JOY!!! :-)

    ENJOYED reading 1 Corinthians 15, and I want to share my take away with you all…

    Paul wrote a deeply spiritual letter to his brethren in order to convince them, once and for all time, that Christ Jesus was indeed raised from the dead…

    1st– He reminded them of their acceptance of the gospel of Jesus Christ (their gateway to salvation).

    2nd– He reminded them of Jesus’ resurrection and His appearance to many witnesses–including himself (as one abnormally born).

    Lastly– He provided a spiritually sound explanation on the legitimacy of the resurrection of the dead, and he used Jesus Christ’s resurrection as his “chief cornerstone” evidence.

    1 CORINTHIANS 16

    39 degrees and light rain under a very gray sky…

    LOVE to all,
    Regina

  85. street says:

    23 And He did so to make known the riches of His glory upon objects of mercy, which He prepared beforehand for glory, 24 namely us, whom He also called, not only from among Jews, but also from among Gentiles, 25 as He also says in Hosea:

    “I will call those who were not My people, ‘My people,’
    And her who was not beloved, ‘beloved.’”
    26 “And it shall be that in the place where it was said to them, ‘you are not My people,’
    There they shall be called sons of the living God.”

    4 And they said, “Come, let’s build ourselves a city, and a tower whose top will reach into heaven, and let’s make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered abroad over the face of all the earth.”

    yep we made a name for ourselves and yes we were scattered all over the earth. became estranged from God. brought near by the blood of the Lamb of God.

    4 For Christ is the [a]end of the Law for righteousness to everyone who believes. tutor till love comes.

    God did insist on having mercy on His Children there by revealing Himself. a mercy that is insistent with love, not personal profit or bargaining. that He could reveal an Eternal Holy Just Righteous Good Infinite….. God, that there is no end to and no law against.

    He sure has looted the house of the dead.

    oh Israel repent and come to the Rock of Offence and find Salvation. do you continue to find fault with God?

  86. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Regina, it is evening now, past 9. And the sound outside of fireworks, is increasing. It is forbidden this year. Because of the casualties, hospitals have said, they can’t handle extra patients.
    I am so happy that ij is forbidden. It is just such a stupid tradition! It would be better if there were organized fireworks, just got people to watch. Not for people to do themselves, in front of their house.
    I am praying for this town. For this country, intercessory prayer.
    Praying for you all too, that you may find the Rest in Jesus.

    What a year it was, I was reading Revelation 6, it could be a lot worse.
    When the mountains fall God will be our refuge.
    Rev 6:14
    Psalm 46:1-11

    Today is the day to seek refuge in Jesus, practice it now, before the times get worse

  87. foreverblessed says:

    O dear, Everything is well, it is well with our soul.
    God is with us who can be against us?
    Rom 8

  88. jeff1 says:

    You, Creator; I, Your creature.
    You, almighty; I, but dust.
    You, forever; I, a moment.
    You, perfection, kind and just.
    You are fullness; I am empty,
    Self-importance set aside,
    Foolish grasping, fruitless worry,
    Proud delusions crucified.

    Faithful Father, tender Mother,
    Draw me closer, hold me near.
    In Your presence, deep contentment;
    All is quiet resting here.
    Sweetly helpless, lacking nothing,
    God so pure, so high, so far,
    Quiet worship, simply being,
    Knowing, trusting all You are.

  89. Beloved says:

    “I have told you these things, so that in me you may have peace. In this world you will have trouble. But take heart! I have overcome the world.” – John 16:33.

  90. Regina says:

    You’re welcome, forever. I think it’s interesting that your country does a fireworks display (though not this year due to the virus) to mark the end of the year. In the U.S., we usually go out on a big bang to mark the end of the year. There are usually big parties held all over the country, especially in New York. Major parties are held there, and most would include an hour by hour countdown until we come to the last second of the year. Also, several people are interviewed re: things that happened in their life that made this year special, memorable or terrible. But none of that will take place this year due to the virus. Plus, the situation that’s happening in your country re: hospitals is also happening in the U.S. Our hospitals are filled to capacity and cannot handle extra patients. Yes… the situation is pretty dire. 2 Chronicles 7:14 comes to mind. But, you’re right, the situation could definitely be a lot worse. I want to share an interesting article… Wait! What’s that I hear?? I think I hear fireworks! Wow… Who would pop fireworks on a rainy, cold, dreary day like today?? I’m shocked beyond measure! But I do indeed hear fireworks! Wow… Now, back to what I was saying about the interesting article… I read it earlier today, and I hope it’s worth the read for you (and all who would care to read it)…

    “The Worst Years in History”

    2020 – Corona Virus Pandemic

    Side Note: No mention of the 2009 H1N1 Virus
    Side Note: No mention of the devastating hurricanes—Katrina, Harvey, Rita, Oklahoma City Bombing, etc.

    2001 – 9/11 Terrorist Attacks

    1968 – Race Riots and death of MLK and RFK

    1962 – Cuban Missile Crisis

    1944 – War occurring over much of the world/The Holocaust

    1929 – Stock Market Crash

    1919 – Spanish Flu Pandemic

    1862 – Voted worst year in U.S. History (Civil War-Battle of Antietam)

    1838 –Trail of Tears – Dark stain on U.S. History – About 4,000 Cherokee Indians died on the trail

    1816 – Eruption of Indonesia’s Mount Tambora in 1815 (also referred to as: The year without a summer)

    1644 – “The 30 years war” continued in Europe (death toll: 4.5 million to 8 million)

    410 – The first time in almost 800 years that Rome fell to a foreign enemy (Many believed that the sack of Rome by the Visigoths foretold the end of the world).

    1348 – COVID-19 is awful, but it doesn’t hold a candle to the Black Death, which peaked in this year, killing a third of the European and Middle Eastern population, with a final tally of up to 200 million. This was the year that most of the historians consulted chose as the one “likely to have been the toughest, most difficult and stressful individual year for those who lived through it…” The devastation wrought by the Black Death (1348) was so absolute that it was hard for historians to choose any other year as the worst in world or British history.

    Revelation 21:4 (Any Version)…

  91. Regina says:

    Oh, I forgot to add… I usually bring in the new year at church.

  92. jeff1 says:

    1 O Jesus, I have promised
    To serve thee to the end;
    Be thou forever near me,
    My Master and my friend;
    I shall not fear the battle
    If thou art by my side,
    Nor wander from the pathway
    If thou wilt be my guide.

    2 O let me feel thee near me!
    The world is ever near:
    I see the sights that dazzle,
    The tempting sounds I hear.
    My foes are ever near me,
    Around me and within;
    But, Jesus, draw thou nearer,
    And shield my soul from sin.

    3 O let me hear thee speaking
    In accents clear and still,
    Above the storms of passion,
    The murmurs of self-will.
    O speak to reassure me,
    To hasten or control;
    O speak, and make me listen,
    Thou guardian of my soul.

    4 O Jesus, thou hast promised
    To all who follow thee
    That where thou art in glory
    There shall thy servant be.
    And, Jesus, I have promised
    To serve thee to the end;
    O give me grace to follow,
    My Master and my friend.

  93. street says:

    the plague of 1348 was difficult.

    the flood more difficult.

    yet jacobs trouble is before us.

    no shortage of sorrow or suffering.

    if God be for us who can be against us?

    30 And those he predestined, he also called; those he called, he also justified; those he justified, he also glorified.31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things?

    16 but if anyone suffers as a Christian, he is not to be ashamed, but is to glorify God in this name.

    6 For the gospel has for this purpose been [e]preached even to those who are dead, that though they are judged in the flesh as people, they may live in the spirit according to the will of God.

    to serve to love to know to understand to glorify.

    17 For the Scripture says to Pharaoh, “For this very reason I raised you up, in order to demonstrate My power in you, and that My name might be proclaimed [o]throughout the earth.”

    prior to pharoh we were ignorant of God’s power at work.

    joseph displayed God’s ability to bless.

    i am glad the grace and mercy came before the foundation of the earth. before the darkness.

  94. Beloved says:

    If anyone has seen films of the dust bowl years and the relentless winds that dried up and blew the soil away to me that seems an incredible test of faith. I’m sure many were expecting or praying hard for Jesus to return soon. It seems every generation has their trials. My own grandfather and a 82 year old friend were both given away as hired labor at farms that could at least feed them for the work they did- they were 6 and 8 years old respectively. It was the only way to survive. I can’t imagine. Both grew up with severe anger due to feelings of abandonment. The “why?”, Could not be answered sufficiently for them. Maybe my grandfather surrendered to Jesus as he lay paralyzed and unable to talk when he died. Maybe all the talks I’ve had with my friend calling Jesus will soften his hardened heart. Maybe- LORD willing.

  95. Beloved says:

    His name is Art, he claims to once being a spirit filled born again Christian after the tradition of the prosperity ministers. When his wife died his “faith” died. Now you know how to pray for him. Thank you I really grew to love him- a former neighbor. 😞

  96. SFDBWV says:

    I like to read the comics in the daily paper. They most often speak truth louder that the most articulate of editorials.

    This week in Arlo and Janis with the coming of a new year Arlo says something like “gee it just seems like we were just here.”

    Sorry it is just another day to me as well.

    It is written that God placed the stars in the heavens so we could tell the signs, the seasons and the days and years. Genesis 1:14 KJV.

    Worldly thinkers make a big deal out of such ancient monuments like “Stonehenge”, the pyramids, and other such structures. But I have to tell you it doesn’t take much super natural engineering to figure out marking the seasons from the stars or from where the sun is relevant to the beginning of each season.

    Even the pyramids were constructed so as to align with certain star formations in the night sky. Or so some have come to believe.

    The matter is though, were these ancient people concerned with knowing the seasons or worshiping them?

    I don’t think ancient people were as crude and ignorant as some would believe, however it seems that some people still worship the creation rather than the “Creator”.

    Blessings for all.

    27 degrees with a storm warning for ice later this morning.

    Steve

  97. jeff1 says:

    foreverblessed says:
    December 31, 2020 at 11:49 am

    It occurs to me that Jeff has experienced that what is developing right now in the US, the two sidedness. The antagonism.
    I do believe that the father of Jeff has a message for the Americans: God doesn’t take sides.
    He loves all, the oppressed and the oppressors.
    And He wants to comfort both of them.
    He wants to redeem both of them.
    The Redemption is for all.

    I just wanted to reply to your comments, Forever, as I both agree and disagree with them.

    Yes, I would agree my dad knew God better than any from my cultural background in that he knew God did not do sides.

    I can tell that from not only his actions but from what he told me when I enquired of him why he wasn’t in the Orange Lodge.

    I was very surprised when he told me that he was a member of the Orange Lodge since he was a boy but just never seen the need to parade his culture. He went on to say it was part of tradition and his father had joined him up to the Lodge as was the custom back in the day to do so.

    The difference in my dad and the rest of us was that he put God first in his life and why he seen objectively rather than subjectively.

    He made no secret of that as his words were often scathing of the goings on in both cultures that was not in keeping with Godliness.

    My dad looked for God’s truth and not the truth of traditions at the time that were steeped in hearsay and hatred of each others cultures.

    I know my dad would strongly object to being seen as a messenger for America as it was never his belief that anyone should speak for God being of the nature to see that God was more than able to speak for Himself.

    Perhaps if there were more people like him the world would be a little less messed up.

    I spent my younger days listening to others speak for God and so I have first hand knowledge of the path of destruction that leads one on.

    Let God speak for Himself just be sure you are listening as I have learned one sure thing in life and that is that there is no end to people who believe they speak for God best and when I look at the messed up world then it seems to me that there is no end to people who are all too willing to step up and believe them.

    God didn’t mess up the world but people speaking on His behalf do and then they go on their jolly way having planted a seed of doubt in some unsuspecting soul who doesn’t know any better.

    God let me start the New Year with one thought in mind that You are Your Own Interpreter and you will make it plain.

  98. foreverblessed says:

    Happy New Year!

    “We who have believed do enter into rest.”

    Also again in this year!
    In my biblical diary, I write Psalm 46:1-11
    At the start of this year.

    Dear Steve, I indeed think that they worshipped the stars as gods.
    Thank you Regina for that list. So 1348 wins the contest of the most terrible year yet. 200 million deaths?!!
    At this time I am watching the New Years concert in Vienna.
    Lovely music.
    The musicians have been tested every day. So it must be safe.

  99. bullwinkle11 says:

    Blessings to all in the New Year!
    Some things to consider as we cast off 2020:
    Roughly 99% of the people infected with the virus recovered.
    A vaccine was created in less than a year.
    The economy, while severely damaged will recover.
    Many people came to realize that without social interaction, people suffer.

    My prayer for 2021 is that we take the lessons learned from this past year and grow closer to God, giving Him the praise for bringing us through this.

  100. jeff1 says:

    Life with God is not immunity from difficulties, but peace in difficulties.

    This quote from C. S. Lewis is a reminder that God wants us to have peace of mind that He is in control whatever the circumstances and in a messed up world like this one that is a comforting thought to start a new year with.

    Just came across this song as I seem to see God in song more than in people these days.

    You are not hidden
    There’s never been a moment
    You were forgotten
    You are not hopeless
    Though you have been broken
    Your innocence stolen

    I hear you whisper underneath your breath
    I hear your SOS, your SOS

    I will send out an army to find you
    In the middle of the darkest night
    It’s true, I will rescue you
    There is no distance
    That cannot be covered
    Over and over
    You’re not defenseless
    I’ll be your shelter
    I’ll be your armor

    I hear you whisper underneath your breath
    I hear your SOS, your SOS

    I will send out an army to find you
    In the middle of the darkest night
    It’s true, I will rescue you
    I will never stop marching to reach you
    In the middle of the hardest fight
    It’s true, I will rescue you

    I hear the whisper underneath your breath
    I hear you whisper, you have nothing left

    I will send out an army to find you
    In the middle of the darkest night
    It’s true, I will rescue you
    I will never stop marching to reach you
    In the middle of the hardest fight
    It’s true, I will rescue you
    Oh, I will rescue you

  101. poohpity says:

    Oh Viv I just love that song. I have heard it on our Christian radio station often.

    As bullwinkle stated I also looked at the stats about this virus this morning finding that how we look at things besides what we are fed from the media or government depends on how pessimistic or optimistic we are. Which is usually an indicator of how we look at many things in life including God. Is the cup half full or half empty?

    There are roughly 7.7 billion people in this world, of those there are 84 million virus cases, 1.8 million died, and 59 million have recovered. Currently there are 22,669,182 active cases, 22,562,857 (99.5%)
    in Mild Condition and 106,325 (0.5%)Serious or Critical. Closed cases 61,259,009; 59,430,832 (97%) Recovered / Discharged and 1,828,177 (3%)Deaths

    Last year I saw so many people reaching out to help others with food, clothing, shelter, restaurant people helping out other restaurant people, etc. the list goes on. It just seems to be the government and the media that have lost sight of the people but as far as the people go we seem to be looking out for each other more than I have seen in the past. It is very heart warming to me. God is at work all around us whether we acknowledge it or not. which this song speaks so strongly about.

    In every season, from where I’m standing
    I see the evidence of Your goodness
    All over my life, all over my life
    I see Your promises in fulfillment
    All over my life, all over my life

    Help me remember when I’m weak
    Fear may come but fear will leave
    You lead my heart to victory
    You are my strength and You always will be

    I see the evidence of Your goodness
    All over my life, all over my life
    I see Your promises in fulfillment
    All over my life, all over my life

    See the cross, the empty grave
    The evidence is endless
    All my sin rolled away
    Because of You, oh Jesus
    See the cross, the empty grave

    The evidence is endless
    All my sin rolled away
    Because of You, oh Jesus

    I see the evidence of Your goodness
    All over my life, all over my life
    I see Your promises in fulfillment
    All over my life, all over my life

    I see the evidence of Your goodness
    All over my life, all over my life
    I see Your promises in fulfillment
    All over my life, all over my life

    Why should I fear
    The evidence is here
    Why should I fear
    The evidence is here

  102. jeff1 says:

    I agree Pooh communities here worked together to get food packages to the elderly and lonely and neighbours calling in on other neighbours to check if they where ok.

    My mother spoke of the same during the war when she was working in London during the blitz and how people helped and encouraged each other and their resilience was incredible.

    We are so blind to how God works always looking in the wrong places when He’s right here under our nose in the everyday mundane periods of our lives.

    He is in the ordinary i.e. a kiss or hug from a friend, a sympathetic ear, a helping hand and yet we keep searching for Him way up in the clouds and miss He is right here in the middle of it all.

    He’s right in the middle of your darkest night
    Right in the middle of your hardest fight
    Don’t ever doubt it will be all right
    He’s right in the middle of it all.

  103. poohpity says:

    Amen Viv!

  104. Beloved says:

    NASB 1995 Par ▾
    The Majesty of the LORD.

    1The LORD reigns, He is clothed with majesty;
    The LORD has clothed and girded Himself with strength;
    Indeed, the world is firmly established, it will not be moved.
    2Your throne is established from of old;
    You are from everlasting.

    3The floods have lifted up, O LORD,
    The floods have lifted up their voice,
    The floods lift up their pounding waves.

    4More than the sounds of many waters,
    Than the mighty breakers of the sea,
    The LORD on high is mighty.

    5Your testimonies are fully confirmed;
    Holiness befits Your house,
    O LORD, forevermore.

  105. street says:

    I spent my younger days listening to others speak for God and so I have first hand knowledge of the path of destruction that leads one on.

    this reminds me of marts question, would you rather have a silent action movie or just the Word written down. seems to me we need both to abide in the Light. love can not be counterfeited. they served in Spirit and Truth.

    thinking of john, The Apostle, he saw heard and touched, we just hear and follow.

    thinking of john the baptist. he performed no miracles but everything he said about the Jesus is True.

    we have been given a Great Gift to Abide in. i can see why it is completed in others. isolation darkness and loneliness is not fun. made for unity with God.

    Jeremiah 29:11-13
    For I know the plans that I have for you,’ declares the Lord, ‘plans for prosperity and not for disaster, to give you a future and a hope. Then you will call upon Me and come and pray to Me, and I will listen to you. And you will seek Me and find Me when you search for Me with all your heart.

    Isaiah 25:1
    Lord, You are my God; I will exalt You, I will give thanks to Your name; For You have worked wonders, Plans formed long ago, with perfect faithfulness.

    Exodus 34:6
    Then the Lord passed by in front of him and proclaimed, “The Lord, the Lord God, compassionate and merciful, slow to anger, and abounding in faithfulness and truth;

  106. street says:

    thinking about speaking for God. how a donkey spoke to restrain the madness of the prophet.

    I am the true vine, and My Father is the vinedresser. 2 Every branch in Me that does not bear fruit, He takes away; and every branch that bears fruit, He [a]prunes it so that it may bear more fruit. 3 You are already [b]clean because of the word which I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in Me, [c]and I in you. Just as the branch cannot bear fruit [d]of itself [e]but must remain in the vine, so neither can you unless you remain in Me. 5 I am the vine, you are the branches; the one who remains in Me, and I in him [f]bears much fruit, for apart from Me you can do nothing. 6 If anyone does not remain in Me, he is thrown away like a branch and dries up; and they gather them and throw them into the fire, and they are burned. 7 If you remain in Me, and My words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 My Father is glorified by this, that you bear much fruit, and so [g]prove to be My disciples. 9 Just as the Father has loved Me, I also have loved you; remain in My love. 10 If you keep My commandments, you will remain in My love; just as I have kept My Father’s commandments and remain in His love. 11 These things I have spoken to you so that My joy may be in you, and that your joy may be made full.

  107. street says:

    the supremacy of loving God, fruitfulness, a fruit that will remain. unchanging.

  108. street says:

    15 Some, to be sure, are preaching Christ even [o]from envy and strife, but some also [p]from goodwill; 16 the latter do it out of love, knowing that I am appointed for the defense of the gospel; 17 the former proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition [q]rather than from pure motives, thinking that they are causing me distress in my [r]imprisonment. 18 What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed, and in this I rejoice.

  109. street says:

    it is not my voice i pray they hear, but the voice of God and the love joy and peace from God inChrist Jesus. for God’s Glory. if your not seeking to glorify God, what are you seeking?
    the ones who have crucified self belong to Jesus. some are in the process . may your joy be full.

  110. Beloved says:

    I have come to understand why Mart initially said to refrain from kudos. It’s so easy to feed the dead man that’s struggling to stay alive. I am crucified with Christ- nevertheless I live- yet not I, but Christ lives in me.

    One can stand on the street corner all day begging people to hear Gods voice but God shows up at the most unusual times. He recited one verse to me last night as I was reading that hit me like a branding iron and still the sting of it remains as I struggle with or should I say against His will.

    But still God blessed me with dinner and games with my 3 granddaughters today after a year. My son did not show up but he doesn’t care for me very much. That’s ok, he’s Gods prodigal. They all had Covid but with very slight symptoms and recovered. God is good to all.

  111. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All

    HAPPY NEW YEAR! :-) I pray that you all will remember the power of prayer, and that the Lord will bless you spiritually, financially and physically. In Jesus’ name, I pray. Amen. I meant to stop by yesterday and read comments that I haven’t read yet, but I forgot. So, I’m planning on doing that today.

    Love to all..

  112. foreverblessed says:

    Every time I come here the picture of that humble donkey strikes me.
    Even his head held a little low, in a meek posture.

    I had to think about what Sales laid on the table: the straw.

    That God uses even straw, as Mart mentioned, to let his Son lay on in a manger.

    Straw: “Some, to be sure, are preaching Christ even from envy and strife”,
    Gold: but Christ is preached

  113. poohpity says:

    Lord grant us a closer relationship with you this coming year so that we are standing on a firm foundation to weather the storms that are sure to come. Bless us with the Holy Spirit to guide us through the path before us so that our joy may be complete in you. Open our minds and hearts to know your will then help us to walk in that light. Thank you for never leaving us to do this life on our own but with your help we turn to you because you are the way, the truth and the life and no one can come to the Father without your seal. It is in the name of Jesus I lift these prayers to you.

    I am weak but Thou art strong
    Jesus keep me from all wrong
    I’ll be satisfied as long
    As I walk, let me walk close to Thee

    Just a closer walk with Thee
    Grant it, Jesus, is my plea
    Daily walking close to Thee
    Let it be, dear Lord, let it be

    When my feeble life is o’er
    Time for me will be no more
    Guide me gently, safely o’er
    To Thy kingdom’s shore, to Thy shore

    Just a closer walk with Thee
    Grant it, Jesus, is my plea
    Daily walking close to Thee
    Let it be, dear Lord, let it be

    Amen!

  114. jeff1 says:

    Death had mocked our deepest longings,
    Death, the bitter end for all;
    Nothing lasting, nothing higher
    Till that Easter call:

    Refrain:
    He is risen!
    Hallelujah!
    Now the death that was our future
    Is our destiny no more!
    He is risen!
    Hallelujah!
    Now we share the holy majesty
    Of Jesus Christ our Lord!

    Joy and beauty, love and giving,
    Life and light go on and on!
    All that bound our fearful hearts to
    Sin and death is gone!

    Celebrate our endless future!
    Celebrate our here and now!
    Celebrate our noble purpose –
    Love will show us how!

  115. Beloved says:

    Since it is common practice on New Years’ Day to make a “resolution” of change I’ve been thinking about the bondages I am enslaved to that hinder my relationship with God and make feel miserable. I did some research on slavery and quote this from David Jeremiah:

    Romans 7:17—8:2 is a wonderful encouragement to believers because we’re told that, even when we do sin, there is no longer any condemnation because we are in Christ Jesus. And 1 John 1:9 reassures us that, when we do sin as Christians, if we confess our daily sins to the Lord, He is faithful and righteous and will cleanse us from them in order that we might continue to live in a right relationship with Him.

    As usual God is always encouraging.

    Happy New Year folks!

  116. Beloved says:

    Make *me* feel miserable.

  117. Beloved says:

    The humility of God

    That He is willing to forgive us when we confess our sins! Amazing

  118. bubbles says:

    Joyce, you made a thought come. God forgives us when we ASK for forgiveness. We must ASK for it, and He does, thank God for that!

    But, we are “taught” we must forgive others when they don’t ask us for it? Aren’t we being told and taught to do something that God doesn’t even do? I am not speaking of holding a grudge or staying angry at someone. I am not writing this to justify withholding forgiveness from anyone in life. I want to do right and I want to obey God. What does God say about this, you will ask. I am wondering about verses. . . forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us. Is this meaning we forgive without being asked for forgiveness? Withholdoing forgiveness doesn’t help anyone and the one hurting the other probably doesn’t care anyway. Just a thought about life. No one here in the blog.
    And when Jesus said, “Father, forgive them for they know not what they do.” It’s so true. Sometimes people do not fully understand and we must forgive them because of that.

    Thank you.

  119. Beloved says:

    Bubbles this helps explain it I think from Got Questions dot org.

    By saying we are to forgive those who sin against us seventy times seven, Jesus was not limiting forgiveness to 490 times, a number that is, for all practical purposes, beyond counting. Christians with forgiving hearts not only do not limit the number of times they forgive; they continue to forgive with as much grace the thousandth time as they do the first time. Christians are only capable of this type of forgiving spirit because the Spirit of God lives within us, and it is He who provides the ability to offer forgiveness over and over, just as God forgives us over and over.

    Jesus’ parable of the unforgiving servant follows directly after His “seventy times seven” speech, driving home the point that if we are forgiven the enormous debt of sin against a holy God, how much more should we be eager to forgive those who sin against us, who are just as sinful as they? Paul parallels this example in Ephesians 4:32 where he admonishes us to forgive one another “even as God for Christ’s sake has forgiven you.” Clearly, forgiveness is not to be meted out in a limited fashion but is to be abundant, overflowing, and available to all, just as the measureless grace of God is poured out upon us.

  120. Beloved says:

    Jesus and the cross changes everything.

  121. Beloved says:

    A thought- that being forgiven, sinless in Gods eyes, does not make us like God at all. Sinners saved by grace. He is still our Father.

  122. jeff1 says:

    Just reading Bubbles’s comments on forgiveness something I have had immense struggles with and I can only say that I have found unforgiveness has done me more harm than it has those who whom I have found it hard to forgive.

    As someone who believes I must forgive then the guilt of not forgiving can be much more damaging than the offense of an enemy.

    My experience is that I prolong my own suffering when I fail to forgive not because God holds my sin against me but I must come to Him with a repentant heart or there will be no change in my condition.

    I think what I am trying to say is that I can be my own worst enemy.

    I find the more I come to God the easier it gets and perhaps why I find Holy Communion such a VITAL part of my worship.

    The Prayer of Humble Access

    We do no presume to come to this your table,
    merciful Lord,
    trusting in our own righteousness
    but in your manifold and great mercies.
    We are not worthy so much as to gather up the crumbs under your table.
    But you are the same Lord,
    whose nature is always to have mercy.
    Grant us, therefore, gracious Lord,
    so to eat the flesh of your dear Son Jesus Christ,
    and to drink his blood,
    that our sinful bodies may be made clean by his body,
    and our souls washed through his most precious blood,
    and that we may evermore dwell in him and he in us. Amen.

    The presiding minister introduces the Peace with these or other suitable words:

    Christ is our peace.
    He has reconciled us to God in one body by the cross.
    We meet in his name and share his peace.

    followed by:
    The peace of the Lord be always with you
    response: and also with you.

    Merciful Father, we thank you
    for these gifts of your creation, this bread and this wine,
    and we pray that we who eat and drink them
    in the fellowship of the Holy Spirit
    in obedience to our Saviour Christ
    in remembrance of his death and passion
    may be partakers of his body and his blood,
    who on the night he was betrayed took bread;
    and when he had given you thanks
    he broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying,
    Take, eat. This is my body which is given for you;
    Do this in remembrance of me.
    After supper, he took the cup,
    and again giving you thanks
    he gave it to his disciples saying,
    Drink from this, all of you.
    This is my blood of the new covenant
    which is shed for you and for many
    for the forgiveness of sins.
    Do this, as often as you drink it, in remembrance of me.

    Father with this bread and this cup,
    we do as our Saviour has commanded:
    we celebrate the redemption he has won for us;
    we proclaim his perfect sacrifice,
    made once for all upon he cross,
    his mighty resurrection and glorious ascension;
    and we look for his coming
    to fulfil all things according to your will.

    Christ has died;
    Christ is risen;
    Christ will come again.

    Renew us by your Holy Spirit,
    unite us in the body of your Son,
    and bring us with all your people
    into the joy of your eternal kingdom;
    through Jesus Christ our Lord,
    with whom and in whom,
    by the power of the Holy Spirit,
    we worship you, Father almighty,
    in songs of never-ending praise:
    BLESSING AND HONOUR AND GLORY AND POWER
    ARE YOURS FOR EVER AND EVER. AMEN.

  123. Regina says:

    WOW! What a high calling! Talk about pressing on to reach the end of the race and receive the heavenly prize…(sigh). Though about you, jeff1, after I read this Bible passage this morning. I thought about your passionate effort, last year and maybe the year prior, to convey the *magnitude* of how challenging it is to walk this out…

    Luke 6:27-36, ERV

    “Love Your Enemies”

    27) “But I say to you people who are listening to me, love your enemies. Do good to those who hate you. 28) Ask God to bless the people who ask for bad things to happen to you. Pray for the people who are mean to you.

    29) If someone hits you on the side of your face, let them hit the other side too. If someone takes your coat, don’t stop them from taking your shirt too. 30) Give to everyone who asks you for something. When someone takes something that is yours, don’t ask for it back.

    31) Do for others what you want them to do for you.

    32) “If you love only those who love you, should you get any special praise for doing that? No, even sinners love those who love them! 33) If you do good only to those who do good to you, should you get any special praise for doing that? No, even sinners do that!

    34) If you lend things to people, always expecting to get something back, should you get any special praise for that? No, even sinners lend to other sinners so that they can get back the same amount! 35) “I’m telling you to love your enemies and do good to them. Lend to people without expecting to get anything back. If you do this, you will have a great reward. You will be children of the Most High God. Yes, because God is good even to the people who are full of sin and not thankful.

    36) Give love and mercy the same as your Father gives love and mercy.

    WOW! Smh. This Bible passage is my *spiritual* New Year’s resolution. I’m prepared and ready for prayer.

    1 CORINTHIANS 16

    46 degrees under a beautifully sunny sky…

    ps. This Bible passage was referenced in today’s ODB.

  124. street says:

    2 My dear children, I write this to you so that you will not sin. But if anybody does sin, we have an advocate with the Father—Jesus Christ, the Righteous One. 2 He is the atoning sacrifice for our sins, and not only for ours but also for the sins of the whole world. 1 John 2:1-2

    Jesus died for individual sin. what does this sins of the whole world mean? doesn’t sin come from individuals? when Jesus died on the cross the entire world had rejected Him. Jesus prays His Father forgives them because they do not know what they are doing. walking in darkness. He is not asking they ask for forgiveness He’s asking His Father would forgive them. we forgive because we have been forgiven. not to forgive is to remain under law and in darkness. evil can only kill never give life or light. you can only give what you have. some try to give by borrowing or stealing from temples. love finds away. love bears a burden, like paul for his kinsman. like a vise that holds us in the presents of God. we are crushed so the grace and mercy is given in Spirit and Truth. a living sacrifice.

  125. Beloved says:

    Bearing sin

    After packing/moving/unpacking my sacroiliac is wounded. I thought it was getting better until I put laundry in a front loading washer and removed it. Now the inflammation has spread to my chest and almost my shoulder. I recall a doctor once explaining how if one part of the body is wounded it causes pain to adjacent parts. Aha! Just like the body of Christ we bear others burdens of sin (James) until- yet being careful! If I continue to exercise my wounded back the rest will let me know instantly to knock it off!!! Tylenol please.

  126. jeff1 says:

    What a friend we have in Jesus
    All our sins and griefs to bear
    What a privilege to carry
    Everything to God in prayer

    Oh, what peace we often forfeit
    Oh, what needless pain we bear
    All because we do not carry
    Everything to God in prayer

    Have we trials and temptations?
    Is there trouble anywhere?
    We should never be discouraged
    Take it to the Lord in prayer

    Can we find a friend so faithful
    Who will all our sorrows share?
    Jesus knows our every weakness
    Take it to the Lord in prayer

  127. foreverblessed says:

    Ah well, this humble mule looks at me again….
    So good to be reminded to stay humble.
    Bubbles, I really love to mule over things.
    To think over some hard questions.

    I was thinking about God’s forgiveness.
    Jesus died for the sins of the whole world!
    Not holding the sins against men
    2 Cor 5:14,19

    The payment is already done. The Redeemer has bought us free
    God is waiting for men to accept it.

    Our acceptance is the only thing between us and God.
    If we do not accept, we cannot be redeemed, and we have to pay the price ourselves. And we perish doing it.

    So here is my take: God is waiting, He is holding out His arms to embrace us, IF we turn to Him.

    Is that how I view my enemy?
    Waiting to embrace him.

    Or do I have a grudge.

    I know it is shortsighted, what I wrote.
    The bible says: leave the revenge to God, do not work that out yourself.

    Interesting: turning your cheek!
    Have I ever done that.
    Have I ever heard a sermon on that? Yes, I have, and I always missed the depth:
    You are not a doormat, where people walk over you…
    And then comes Oswald Chambers, who says, we are to be broken bread and poured out wine.

    This passage for women in 1 Peter 3:3 is so intriguing!
    She is humble towards her husband
    In the well trained knowledge that Jesus is her Lord and Savior and Master. She expects everything from Him.
    She does not expect total love from her husband.
    That is only for Jesus.

    In the full expectancy of Jesus being her Redeemer, she can face any setback.
    This is a personal conviction, no one can lay this on another.
    A person has to come to this herself.
    Being guided by the love of Jesus through the Holy Spirit.

    And so it is with her looking to any enemy,
    She lays all her grudges in Jesus’ arms, and waits with her eyes fixed on Jesus.
    And, o dear, how difficult that path us, and how often she fails, but she gets up again and fixes her gaze on Jesus again.

    But… Being reconciled is one big step further than forgiveness.
    I can forgive, and yet hold back, till I see a change of heart.
    And then comes reconciliation in view.

  128. Beloved says:

    street says:
    January 2, 2021 at 12:41 pm

    I understand better now.

  129. bratimus says:

    Forgiveness of sins against us.

    First off every sin is a sin against God, and we at times might be the target of that sin. When it comes down to it the true forgiveness of that sin comes From God through the blood of Christ, and the acceptance of that.

    I’, neither God or Christ so I can’t give true forgiveness of sin. What I can do to those who might sin against me. My forgiveness come in I don’t seek retribution against them, I don’t want payback.

    Where some of the problem with forgiveness of others comes in, is the forgiveness is easy, it is the broken trust that is the hard part in restoring.

    We are to trust God, and I’m going to let God work out who is truly looking for forgiveness.

    The whole appearance of seeking forgiveness or truly seeking for forgiveness. It gets hard to trust those that keep on sinning against you. I forgive others so I don’t seek retribution against those who may sin against me, me knowing that every sin is against God. I trust God to work that out as long as I don’t sin in seeking retribution.

    It is a hard to put the thought into the right words, it is more of a sense and feeling in me then a actual thought.

    I’m not going to feel guilt over trust being broken, it would be foolish to keep trusting those who keep sinning against us. When others break trust that is their sin.

    In Christ Jesus name
    Bratimus

  130. foreverblessed says:

    We cannot give what we doing have.

    But what we do not have we can ask God!
    Ask God for forgiveness!

    But when we ask we must believe and not doubt
    James 1:5

  131. foreverblessed says:

    But I do say yes, to what Bratimus wrote:
    Forgive, in the sense of not seeking retribution.

  132. foreverblessed says:

    We cannot give what we do not have.

    And we have not because we do not ask
    And when we ask we ask in a wrong manner
    Tough words from James 1

    Ask and you shall receive, says Jesus!
    That’s positive!

  133. poohpity says:

    The way I understand the forgiveness of the Lord it is a done deal. We do not have to ask Him to forgive us because that is exactly what happened on the Cross, once for all times past present and future. It is finished. Our confession of the sin in our lives is to be in agreement with God because if we do not admit we sin we are calling God a liar. Confession helps us be humble to never think we are better than anyone else, all sin and fall short of the Glory of God(1 John 1:9 NLT). Confession keeps our conscience clear realizing the areas that God needs to cleanse us from and we know that God is faithful to forgive our sins because it was finished on the cross. Romans 5:8 NLT

  134. poohpity says:

    Just like God forgave our sins without asking should we not do the same to others? No one said that it is easy for us to do but with God all things are possible.

  135. bubbles says:

    Thank you for those thoughts from all of you. I was not asking to justify anything, just wondering, and you all are correct. I suppose it was the syntax maybe. I am not withholding forgiveness, but want to understand. Do you ever have those wondering thoughts that need help being sorted out? That is where I was coming from.
    Viv, thank you. And, we are so very blessed to have a God who forgives and gives us grace and mercy in times of need too. Thank you, Viv.

    Thank you for your help. Joyce, hope that nerve feels better soon. Take care.

  136. street says:

    But I do say yes, to what Bratimus wrote:
    Forgive, in the sense of not seeking retribution.

    when Jesus confronted the scribes and pharisees He did it in Spirit and True. all the prophets confronted sin. an impossible task apart from God. they did it by knowing the truth. the difficult part is the intersession, same as Christ on the cross. to be conform to Him. when a bother sins against you you are to rebuke him. Jesus gives a way of escape we should too. don’t bargain for justice or make justice only Christ can do this and we are to follow Him. we can ask for wisdom and deliverance, for God’s Glory not our own. we escape by forgiveness and loving them in Spirit and Truth. our adversary is smarter than us, but not great than He that is in us. our Helper.

  137. Beloved says:

    Just thinking that if God is a far- off entity it’s easy to say oh thanks I believe it and accept it for me. This was my confession when I joined the church. Why not believe, I asked myself. Seemed foolish not to. At the time.

    Until I met Jesus then suddenly He was not a God far away but a relational entity. Very near- like a friend but still my Superior who was Holy and demands Holiness from His friends to maintain a close “relationship”. It felt natural to seek forgiveness when I was the cause of grief of the Holy Spirit. Father, Son and Holy Spirit; three in One. What one feels they all feel.

    Bubbles it was a good topic for discussion. It’s a joint from what I read. This too shall pass with care. I got a lot done today despite it but I’ve learned it’s often better to keep moving if you know what I mean— but no heavy lifting for a while😉

  138. foreverblessed says:

    Bubbles, it is just nice to go over thoughts, not as to say one is right and the other is wrong. The scriptures you have, especially the last ones were an answer in themselves.

    I was thinking about the parable Jesus told, that when we do not forgive neither can God forgive us.
    I visualise forgiveness as something that is streaming.
    That foremost the forgiveness that we have received for ourselves is the starting point.

    That how fallen our state was, is something that is growing on us. We do not understand at first how fallen out state was, we realize our big fault, each in his own way, that’s how we start when we turn to Jesus.

    Our son bought a house, and so did his best friend.
    That house of his friend was occupied by heavy smokers, and before them there were also very heavy smokers. The couple each a pack a day. 40 years of two packs a day had gone into the house.
    They were painting the ceiling white, the next day it was yellow again.
    The attic, the wood, all the ceilings on the first floor, everything turned yellow again.
    The nicotine just sinks low into the paint.

    Then they were looking for some advice, they were told the nicotine had pervaded everywhere, through and through. There is no cleaning possible. Just seal it with silicone paste. And then paint it.

    And that to me is a vision of what we look like spiritually speaking.
    The blood of Jesus washes us clean, from inside out, no more nicotine, no more blackness, all is washed out. No plaster needed.
    White as snow 🌨️

  139. street says:

    forgiving is letting go of a sef-righteousness we don’t have, humility too. so we can receive the Righteousness that is from Christ.

    15
    “The land of Zebulun and the land of Naphtali,
    [a]By the way of the sea, on the other side of the Jordan, Galilee of the [b]Gentiles—
    16
    The people who were sitting in darkness saw a great Light,
    And those who were sitting in the land and shadow of death,
    Upon them a Light dawned.”

    17 From that time Jesus began to [c]preach and say, “Repent, for the kingdom of heaven [d]is at hand.”

  140. foreverblessed says:

    Oh yes, that too Street!
    Dear Beloved, I pray for you too! For your arm!

  141. jeff1 says:

    Having read this essay from C. S. Lewis I know has left me in no doubt of what God expects of me so please God more of Him and less of me in 2021.

    ESSAY ON FORGIVENESS BY C.S. LEWIS
    By Macmillan Publishing Company, Inc. N.Y. 1960

    We say a great many things in church without thinking of what we are saying. For instance, we say in the Creed ” I believe in the forgiveness of sins.” I had been saying it for several years before I asked myself why it was in the Creed. At first sight it seems hardly worth putting in. “If one is a Christian,” I thought ” of course one believes in the forgiveness of sins. It goes without saying.”

    But the people who compiled the Creed apparently thought that this was a part of our belief which we needed to be reminded of every time we went to church. And I have begun to see that, as far as I am concerned, they were right. To believe in the forgiveness of sins is not so easy as I thought.

    Real belief in it is the sort of thing that easily slips away if we don’t keep on polishing it up.

    We believe that God forgives us our sins; but also that He will not do so unless we forgive other people their sins against us. There is no doubt about the second part of this statement.

    It is in the Lord’s Prayer, it was emphatically stated by our Lord. If you don’t forgive you will not be forgiven. No exceptions to it. He doesn’t say that we are to forgive other people’s sins, provided they are not too frightful, or provided there are extenuating circumstances, or anything of that sort. We are to forgive them all, however spiteful, however mean, however often they are repeated. If we don’t we shall be forgiven none of our own.

    Now it seems to me that we often make a mistake both about God’s forgiveness of our sins and about the forgiveness we are told to offer to other people’s sins. Take it first about God’s forgiveness, I find that when I think I am asking God to forgive me I am often in reality asking Him to do something quite different.

    I am asking him not to forgive me but to excuse me. But there is all the difference in the world between forgiving and excusing. Forgiveness says, “Yes, you have done this thing, but I accept your apology; I will never hold it against you and everything between us two will be exactly as it was before.”

    If one was not really to blame then there is nothing to forgive. In that sense forgiveness and excusing are almost opposites. Of course, in dozens of cases, either between God and man, or between one man and another, there may be a mixture of the two.

    Part of what at first seemed to be the sins turns out to be really nobody’s fault and is excused; the bit that is left over is forgiven. If you had a perfect excuse, you would not need forgiveness; if the whole of your actions needs forgiveness, then there was no excuse for it. But the trouble is that what we call “asking God’s forgiveness” very often really consists in asking God to accept our excuses. What leads us into this mistake is the fact that there usually is some amount of excuse, some “extenuating circumstances.”

    We are so very anxious to point these things out to God that we are apt to forget the very important thing; that is, the bit left over, the bit which excuses don’t cover, the bit which is inexcusable but not, thank God, unforgivable. And if we forget this, we shall go away imagining that we have repented and been forgiven when all that has really happened is that we have satisfied ourselves without own excuses. They may be very bad excuses; we are all too easily satisfied about ourselves.

    There are two remedies for this danger. One is to remember that God knows all the real excuses very much better than we do. If there are real “extenuating circumstances” there is no fear that He will overlook them. Often He must know many excuses that we have never even thought of, and therefore humble souls will, after death, have the delightful surprise of discovering that on certain occasions they sinned much less than they thought.

    All the real excusing He will do. What we have got to take to Him is the inexcusable bit, the sin. We are only wasting our time talking about all the parts which can be excused. When you go to a Dr. you show him the bit of you that is wrong – say, a broken arm. It would be a mere waste of time to keep on explaining that your legs and throat and eyes are all right. You may be mistaken in thinking so, and anyway, if they are really right, the doctor will know that.

    The second remedy is really and truly to believe in the forgiveness of sins. A great deal of our anxiety to make excuses comes from not really believing in it, from thinking that God will not take us to Himself again unless He is satisfied that some sort of case can be made out in our favor. But that is not forgiveness at all.

    Real forgiveness means looking steadily at the sin, the sin that is left over without any excuse, after all allowances have been made, and seeing it in all its horror, dirt, meanness, and malice, and nevertheless being wholly reconciled to the man who has done it.

    When it comes to a question of our forgiving other people, it is partly the same and partly different. It is the same because, here also forgiving does not mean excusing. Many people seem to think it does. They think that if you ask them to forgive someone who has cheated or bullied them you are trying to make out that there was really no cheating or bullying. But if that were so, there would be nothing to forgive.

    The difference between this situation and the one in which you are asking God’s forgiveness is this. In our own case we accept excuses too easily, in other people’s we do not accept them easily enough. As regards my own sins it is a safe bet that the excuses are not really so good as I think; as regards other men’s sins against me it is a safe bet that the excuses are better than I think.

    One must therefore begin by attending to everything which may show that the other man was not so much to blame as we thought. But even if he is absolutely fully to blame we still have to forgive him; and even if ninety-nine per cent of his apparent guilt can be explained away by really good excuses, the problem of forgiveness begins with the one per cent of guilt that is left over. To excuse, what can really produce good excuses is not Christian charity; it is only fairness.

    To be a Christian means to forgive the inexcusable, because God has forgiven the inexcusable in you. This is hard. It is perhaps not so hard to forgive a single great injury. But to forgive the incessant provocations of daily life – to keep on forgiving the bossy mother-in-law, the bullying husband, the nagging wife, the selfish daughter, the deceitful son – How can we do it? Only, I think, by remembering where we stand, by meaning our words when we say in our prayers each night “Forgive our trespasses* as we forgive those that trespass against us.”

    We are offered forgiveness on no other terms. To refuse it is to refuse God’s mercy for ourselves. There is no hint of exceptions and God means what He says.

    *Trespasses=offences, being offended or offending.

  142. Beloved says:

    Lights in the World
    (Matthew 5:13–16)
    12Therefore, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not only in my presence, but now even more in my absence, continue to work out your salvation with fear and trembling. 13For it is God who works in you to will and to act on behalf of His good purpose.

  143. jeff1 says:

    The love of God is greater far
    Than tongue or pen can ever tell;
    It goes beyond the highest star,
    And reaches to the lowest hell.
    The guilty pair, bowed down with care,
    God gave His Son to win;
    His erring child He reconciled,
    And pardoned from his sin.

    Refrain:
    O love of God, how rich and pure!
    How measureless and strong!
    It shall forevermore endure?
    The saints’ and angels’ song!

    Could we with ink the ocean fill,
    And were the skies of parchment made,
    Were every stalk on earth a quill,
    And every man a scribe by trade,
    To write the love of God above
    Would drain the ocean dry;
    Nor could the scroll contain the whole,
    Though stretched from sky to sky.

    He is alive, and He is Lord,
    Now crowned with heaven’s highest name;
    And there in Him, by love restored,
    With all creation we’ll proclaim:
    “Worthy the Lamb, the Great I Am,
    All glory, power, and might.”
    With joy we’ll trace His boundless grace
    In all its depth and height.

  144. saled says:

    Thanks, Jeff1, I so love this song, especially these words: He is alive, and He is Lord Now crowned with heaven’s highest name: And there in Him, by love restored, with all creation we’ll proclaim: “Worthy the Lamb, the Great I Am, all glory, power, and might” With joy we’ll trace His boundless grace in all its depth and height.

    I think that when we see the reality of what it means to be ‘by love restored’, we will be more than amazed. When the wrongs are righted, victim and perpetrator will both be restored. I think of the book The Shack and the scene where Mack reconciles with his father in the chapter called a Festival of Friends. What great hope!

    Back to work for me on Monday. We are presently teaching in person, and hoping we can continue. I work with the youngest students and it is just not the same for them virtually. Looking forward to retiring within the next year or two and having more time to contribute to the comments here.

    Back to work on Monday. We are teaching in person at the present time. I want to say that I so appreciate those of you who take the time to comment here. I think I began reading this blog about 10 years ago and I am so thankful for how it has shaped my faith. God is so much more that what I thought he was. Thanks for mentioning the book Silence, Beloved. It was part of my realization that God has not called us to live the perfect life.

  145. street says:

    The Humility of God vs the Holiness and Justice of God.

    humbled on a cross to pay a debt we could not pay.

    condemning “ALL” flesh, no not one.

    never overlooked picking up sticks on the Sabbath in Exodus. all sin wages are death. small and great. they both end in the grave and before the judgment seat of God.

    without excuse. mankind is completely condemned in the first 3 chapters of Romans. Thank God that is not the end of Romans.

    Jesus told pilot he had the lesser sin. still same outcome.

    i don’t find comfort in having the lesser sin or in self.

    there is comfort in Christ Jesus. a way a truth a life.

  146. jeff1 says:

    Today in Your presence, Lord, open our eyes
    To blessings that come in a troubling disguise,
    To love’s great adventures, to praise overdue,
    To all that is lovely and noble and true.

    Today, God our Father, almighty, all-wise,
    With heart of a mother, attuned to our cries,
    You pour out a love we can never repay,
    Unbounded, unchanging, and ever today.

    Today we will praise You, Great Sovereign, our Friend,
    With all that we are, with the joy You intend.
    Alive in Your Spirit, today we pursue
    The privilege, the pleasure of living in You.

  147. poohpity says:

    street, you may want to have another look at the first three chapters of Romans. Do they not tell what the Good News is all about and our need for a Savior? Also the commonality of all mankind when it comes to sin. Paul speaks of the great lengths God went through to prove His love for us and we are all on equal ground at the foot of the Cross so we need not point our fingers at anyone else.

  148. SFDBWV says:

    Mart and I are about the same age, he a few months older. His personal life like mine take an increasing toll on our energies. Like Saled I too have enjoyed this blog for many years now and have made some friends in the process.

    Also like Saled I hope Mart and the blog to be around for years to come.

    When you see me absent for a stretch now and then it is only because life outside of the blog has priority over my time and availability. And sometimes I just don’t have anything to say.

    The conversations tend to have a life of their own and sometimes I am just not a part of them, so I just read your thoughts and move on.

    We have dense fog at the moment after rain this morning between 4 and 6 am. We had been under a severe storm watch for ice, snow and freezing rain. None of which has happened as yet. The weather forecasters have been off the mark all fall and winter and I am glad they have been.

    However they won’t always be. So I still have to be prepared when they warn us.

    I have never been a “New Year” celebrant. Like I said it is just another day in a string of days, weeks and months.

    However this past year was tough on us personally with Matt having to have emergency surgery March the 7th and spending 17 days in the Hospital in Morgantown.

    Like so much of our lives though he and I spent thoes 17 days together in the hospital just as hospitals were beginning to restrict “visitors”. We able to stay together until his discharge…A gift from God.

    Just after we left Morgantown it became a hot bed of virus patients and deaths, but we were safely away at home.

    The restrictions that have arisen everywhere has also made our routine habits change.

    The insanity of the election and all that has followed only adds to what has to be a year like no one has ever experienced.

    Perhaps causing some to question God, some to draw closer and some to even abandon Him. Placing their hopes and trust in science to save them.

    It just seems to me life on planet earth is spiraling downward into an ever increasing darker place. The planet and especially the collective nature of people connected by the “web”.

    Perhaps an appropriate name for what it has become…

    Thank those of you who have prayed for us to have a better year. I have learned though to live one day at a time, dealing with its struggles and being thankful for its victories each day.

    Dense fog 36 degrees.

    Steve

  149. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you very much Steve, for your kind words.
    Thank you for sharing your life and your burdens.

    Right in front of me is this Psalm, and I give them to you:
    This poor man called,

    and the Lord heard him;
    He saved him out of all his troubles

    Psalm 34:6

  150. foreverblessed says:

    This is another Psalm that is right in front of me,
    Considering what CS Lewis said on forgiveness and excuses.
    ( Thanks Jeff for sharing)

    I said, “I will confess my transgressions to the Lord”-
    and You forgave the guilt of my sin.

    Psalm 32:5 b

  151. foreverblessed says:

    And about the weather, we have had more than 700 days without snow, a substantial snowdeck of half an inch for a whole day, that is.

    And this past year has been the hottest since measurements, together with 2014.

  152. Beloved says:

    Forever we only have had about 6 inches total (snow) and it looks like no snow for the month! Very unusual with above normal temps also. We had very dense fog yesterday which I see has moved to Steve’s side of the country. Don’t miss the snow or below zero temps but without moisture our crops will suffer. My hip is feeling better today but will take it easy although I would like to move some furniture around. We’ll see if I can resist! I just cannot sit still for more than 20 minutes🤷‍♂️

  153. Beloved says:

    My daughter and son-in-law transported many bushels of black beans to Indiana a few weeks ago to be shipped to Jamaica eventually to feed the poor. I was glad to hear the farmers in this area are helping feed the world. God is so good!

  154. foreverblessed says:

    So it was your hip, not your arm. 😬
    Be careful! Hold your body under control, meaning to say: better to go outside and enjoy nature!
    But I will keep praying!

  155. Beloved says:

    Sacroiliac actually but the pain radiated all the way to my chest. Much much better with proper body mechanics today but the weight was almost more than I could bear – as well as my own weight to carry but I’m working on reducing. Should have rested more during the move but I can’t stand to sit by while there’s work to be done. I did move some furniture around but a hot shower relaxed me. My cat sure enjoys sitting in the sun as to I! Blessings galore! Thank you LORD. And thank you for telling me you are praying; it is comforting to me. ❤️

  156. Beloved says:

    When moving I found my One Year Chronological Bible and decided to go through it this year.

    Anyone else make any “resolutions” for this year?

  157. street says:

    a way a truth a life.

    The Way The Truth The Life

    we tend to go our own way, and the price is high.

    thinking of The only Way Truth and Life.

    separation is hard. The Comforter is a Great Gift.

    To Be Cherished.

    If you Love Me you will keep my Commands/Word.

    40 Upon these two commandments, completely depend, hang the whole Law and the Prophets.”

    but do not have love, I have become a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. thinking of the Vine.

  158. street says:

    If it is so, why does the God of the Scriptures seem pathologically consumed with his desire for praise and glory?

    Depends on how you value Truth.

    thinking of david.

  159. Beloved says:

    Street what are you thinking about David?

  160. Beloved says:

    The man known as one after Gods own heart? The heart of Truth?

  161. bubbles says:

    Agree with Steve. New Year’s Day is just another day. It’s empty and usually bleak weather. I have learned this year that Christmas is just another day, and realizing it and not going along with all the hype made it bearable this year. This past year was a total nightmare and the virus was not even a factor in my life until two months ago. So many people here are infected. A county south of here has 1 in every 37 people infected. I am heartbroken and exhausted.

  162. foreverblessed says:

    It is going to take some perseverance, this pandemic.

    Thinking of 1348, where the disaster was really huge. Did you say 200 million deaths, Saled?

    Beloved asked if anyone of us had a resolution?
    I had been given Psalm 46.
    God is our Refuge, when the mountains fall.🌄

    I had written that in my bible next to Revelation 6:14

    Whatever happens that I may seek refuge in God.

    As this past year was a pandemic, I was reading again in Revelation 6, as I see it, these horses of the Apocalypse have been riding the last two thousand years, bringing war, scarcity and pests.
    But yesterday I read it in my little Dutch bible, the one I take to church, as it is small, and Revelation 6:2 is written in capitals:

    I looked, and there before me was a white horse! The Rider held a bow, and He was given a crown, and He rode out as a conquerer bent on conquest.

    O dear, What is This?
    The first Rider could be Jesus, talking about the swift spread of the Gospel in the first century?

    When we as a blog went through Acts, (Regina went on to Corinth, and is now in chapter 16, 😊)
    But I was impressed by the ease by which people were touched by the Gospel:
    Acts 13:42,52
    Such a sudden change, and when Paul and Barnabas had to leave the new converts were left behind filled with joy with the Holy Spirit. They were not at all in dismay, being left alone. The Spirit wrapped around them.

    As it was, their hearts were pierced by the sharp arrow of the Truth of the Gospel.

    Psalm 45:4-5
    In your majesty ride forth victoriously
    in behalf of truth, humility and righteousness.

    Here it is again: the humility of our God!
    He does not force Himself on anyone, they are free to choose for Him. But He has to break the veil, in order for us to be able to see Him clearly.

    But….
    This first rider, it’s interpretation is filled with controversy. There are as many others who say this first rider is the anti-christ. On wikipedia there is a good overview on different interpretations

    To me, the Idea that the first rider is Christ, makes the whole apocalypse less grimm: It is all about Jesus, the Lamb that was slain, to save the world. 🌍

    ( Beloved, to make a smaller resolution: to proofread before posting on this blog, 😉)

  163. foreverblessed says:

    About the conquest written in Revelation:

    Many trials and afflictions are to trouble the earth, but through all God is working to bring his Church triumphantly through the struggle. And what is true of the Church as a whole is true of each individual soul. Those to whom St. John wrote could not understand, as many now do not understand, for what purpose God permitted them to suffer. For such St. John’s message is intended to be a support; not, indeed, by removing present troubles, but by declaring the final victory of those who endure to the end.

    From one of the commentaries on biblehub on Revelation 6:2

  164. jeff1 says:

    There has been many false interpretations on the end times from my recollection of my mother speaking of them and she has been dead for 34 years.

    When will we start listening to God and not to others when it comes to His intentions.

    We have the encouraging messages from the Bible and yet as Pooh so rightly stated there is no end to people listening to others who do not have their interests at heart.

    But, it is easy for me to see this now but when I was 40 years younger I had a dad who tried to warn me against listening to the wrong people so I have no room to talk when it comes to waywardness and foolishness as I have done my share of both.

    I had a fright in my bed last night awoke at 2 am by a young neighbour whose mother I am friendly with shouting at my front door to come quickly as his mother was being threatened on the telephone.

    When I entered the house I could see she was distressed on the phone and in the process of giving him her bank card details.

    At one stage she asked him to ring her back as she needed to get a drink of coffee and he did so. She then explained to me that he was someone she had contacted in her loneliness and hoping to have a relationship with and so she had sent him photos of herself that was meant to be for his eyes only and he was threatening to go viral with them and she was in a frenzy about both loosing her job and the prospects of all her friends and students of the school she works at seeing them.

    I advised her she needed to report him to the police as there would be no end to his demands and her life would not be tolerable if she tried to meet them. I also said that there was no reason to think that she would loose her job as she was the victim and not the criminal and at the worst she would have to suffer the mocking of her students as her friends would be more than sympathetic to her.

    He phoned back and she went ahead with a transaction of sending him her bank card details in the hope that he will not submit the photos and entered into more friendly conversation with him telling her he would ring her back tomorrow.

    He claimed he was a Doctor and lived in America though listening to his voice I detected that he sounded much more European than American but I am no expect on accents.

    Her son who is autistic was very worried and as ask me will I come over when he rings again as he is concerned for his mum and I said I would but I feel way out of my depth and can only pray for God’s intervention in this situation.

    Not a nice way to start the new year for my friend and a warning to us all of the difficult times that we live in when it comes to trusting others.

  165. poohpity says:

    Oh Viv tell your neighbor immediately to cancel the bank card and tell the bank what happened then call the police. A little embarrassment is better than someone stealing everything you have. Those people hit lonely women and take every penny they have. Never give any bank information over the phone to anyone ever!!!

  166. poohpity says:

    That is called blackmail to demand money to stop anything. Never give any personal information over the phone to anyone ever. If she has his phone number it will really help the police they have a special unit for such crimes as this.

  167. SFDBWV says:

    Viv it is probably too late to avoid your friend’s mother from being drained of her money in her bank, but reporting it to the bank, changing accounts and reporting it all to the police is exactly what needs done immediately.

    Steve

  168. jeff1 says:

    I do hope she takes my advice Pooh but I am not sure her head is in a very good place and he seems to be manipulating her and its always easy to give advice when you are not on the receiving end but I think she should get out and face the embarrassment as the alternative is to let him control her life while fleecing her and I know which option I would choose.

  169. jeff1 says:

    I have advised her to do that Steve and she promised she would go to her bank today though she is also back at work so I will have to wait and see the outcome.

  170. jeff1 says:

    Steve, Pooh, thank you for your advice, just had a text from my friend she is at the police station and then going to bank to sort out her account and will speak later.

    Thank God as I prayed he would work in this situation and so happy he has.

  171. poohpity says:

    I will be praying with you for her too!!

  172. SFDBWV says:

    “Why would He demand that we love Him?”

    If I have learned anything in life it is that love is the freest thing I know of.

    It cannot be commanded, nor demanded. Freely offered, freely received.

    The saddest people on earth are the ones in love with someone who don’t return that love.

    Through association you can grow to love someone. And I think it is through that association with the Triune Spirit of God that we come to love and respect Him.

    Respect is one of those things that has to be earned. In my opinion there is a difference between respect and fear.

    The situation remains that as you learn about who God is and how everything came into being, love respect and even fear comes along with it.

    Fear being that same feeling others feel about unreturned love. Fear of Him not so much about what He can do *to* you as much as His being indifferent towards you.

    In demanding we love Him, He is saying to us once we get to know Him and understand His love for us, we learn to love Him and respect Him and yes, listen to Him.

    31 degrees under grey skies.

    Steve

  173. Beloved says:

    Oh dear- Dr Phil has had many shows about scammers. Just like the Holy Spirit the young man was watching over his mother. God will forgive her for sending inappropriate pics if she asks Him, yet even in her sin God has had mercy on her. He pours His rain of blessings on the just, and, the unjust.

  174. Beloved says:

    Psalm93 is my spiritual task this coming year. Verse *5 consumes me lately. Matthew Henry says this:
    2. All his people ought to be conscientiously pure: *Holiness becomes thy house, O Lord! for ever. God’s church is his house; it is a holy house, cleansed from sin, consecrated by God, and employed in his service. The holiness of it is its beauty (nothing better becomes the saints than conformity to God’s image and an entire devotedness to his honour), and it is its strength and safety; it is the holiness of God’s house that secures it against the many waters and their noise. Where there is purity there shall be peace. Fashions change, and that which is becoming at one time is not so at another; but holiness always becomes God’s house and family, and those who belong to it; it is perpetually decent; and nothing so ill becomes the worshippers of the holy God as unholiness.

  175. jeff1 says:

    Thank you, Pooh, being divorced, she is on her own and has two sons with autism and I have got to know her well over the years and would look after the boys for her when they were younger and we have now become good friends.

    She has a demanding job as classroom assistant and sometimes gets overwhelmed with pressures of job and family so thank you Pooh for your prayers.

  176. jeff1 says:

    Beloved, I don’t think she is in the best of places in her mind and perhaps why she acted so foolishly as I would call her cautious in nature but she does long for a man in her life and I am just not so sure she is going the right way about it.

    Me I am much too critical of men having had the experiences I have had but she is much younger than I and I do hope she meets someone worthy of her sincerity.

    I don’t think it is getting any easier living in a secular world to be part of it, but apart from it, unless you were to join a monastery it is downright hard to avoid all the temptations of modern society.

  177. Beloved says:

    I recall trying to the best we can in this world Viv. The Bible speaks of it
    ◄ Proverbs 16:25 ►
    There is a way that seems right to a man, but its end is the way to death.

    The Good News though is
    ◄ Romans 6:23 ►
    New Living Translation
    For the wages of sin is death, but the free gift of God is eternal life through Christ Jesus our Lord.

  178. Beloved says:

    Like you I can certainly empathize with your friend. I only dated one time after my divorce with a coworker but it was purely plutonic. I can’t tell you the hundreds of times I prayed for a partner over the years. God said no. I’m glad He did as He knew how damaged I was for a healthy relationship and that only He could give me everything I need- and still do. That being mostly love consistently with mercy forgiveness and patience. Lots of it. He has been for me everything I needed- even to supplying houses to live in, food, eyewear, musical instruments and clothing for my children growing up. I had yearly retreats at women’s Bible camp which was so wonderful! Although I would have loved the emotional and physical companionship. Your friend with special needs children may have a harder time finding a husband. I will pray that she knows trusts and leans on Jesus to find her a husband.

  179. jeff1 says:

    Thank you, Beloved, I pray God’s will for her as He knows her needs best and I know she trusts God and look to Him for comfort and reassurance in her life.

    As our Minister will remind me we don’t always get what we want in life and the older I get the more I see that what I want is not always best for me so growing wiser in old age thank goodness for some upsides to it.

  180. jeff1 says:

    Just heard on news all of England is going into tier 4 restrictions as Covid worsens there and here in NI as well.

    God Help Us All.

  181. foreverblessed says:

    May God bless your neighbour friend, Jeff. So she does trust Jesus.
    I had to think about all the stars and all the sand of the sea, so much will God come to her help.

    Beloved, I saw your request for your neighbour, who is angry at God since his wife died. I pray for him too.

    In about an hour Virus Johnson will have a press conference.
    Germany will stay under stricter rules till January 31, but is not in total lockdown. Same in our country, but on January 19 it will be reevaluated.

    Beloved, you gave Psalm 93 on January 1, or 2.
    -Our God reigns-

    If you do a search for these words, in the bible concordance, that gives such a boost in scriptures that appear.
    Wonderful!

  182. foreverblessed says:

    Boris Johnson, o dear, what a typo (or rather an unnoticed auto-correct)

  183. foreverblessed says:

    About New Years Resolutions,
    todya I read on Utmost, in the commentaries, someone telling about a sermon of Spurgeon: Growth in Grace

    To grow in the Grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ

    2 Peter 3:18

    I find this desprition a very good New Years resolution:

    “THAT GROWTH IN GRACE IS INTIMATELY CONNECTED WITH GROWTH “IN THE KNOWLEDGE OF OUR LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST.” In fact, there cannot be any grace at all except as we know Christ, and there can be no growth in grace except as we grow in our knowledge of Christ. We may always test whether we are growing by this question, — Do I know more of Christ to-day than I did yesterday? Do I live nearer to Christ to-day than I did a little while ago? For increase in the knowledge of Christ is the evidence as well as the cause of true growth in grace. In order to prove this, I will mention one or two Christian virtues, and you will see that they must increase as we know more of Christ.”

    And the sermon goes on with growing in love, faith, zeal, brotherly love and ends with growing in humility,
    and I cite it for Street, who often mentioned the saying of John the Baptist:
    -He must increase and I must decrease-

    “When you grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, you will be sure to grow in humility. Growing Christians think themselves nothing, but full-grown Christians think themselves less than nothing; and the nearer we get to Jesus, the smaller self will appear to be. Self and Christ can never come close together. When I stand near self, Christ is small; when I stand near Christ, self is small. May God grant to you, dear friends, to grow in the knowledge of Christ! Read the Scriptures more. Seek more the influences of the Holy Spirit upon them; spend more time in devotion; ask God the Holy Spirit to give you a fresh sight of Calvary; be oftener on the mount of transfiguration, in the garden of suffering, in the hall of agony, under the cross of crucifixion; live with Jesus, and near to him; and so, changed from glory to glory as by the Spirit of the Lord, you shall each one of you grow unto the stature of a perfect man in Christ Jesus.”

  184. Beloved says:

    Forever that and also growing in holiness. To be like Christ is to be holy. As He increases we become more Holy. That’s what it teaches me, anyway. Our “selves” are totally corrupted. Which is why I can’t lean on my own understanding because it is corrupted too.

    But Oh what Joy is ours despite the rotting shell our spirit lives in; joined with Christ forever! Awaiting the day of judgement and eternal fellowship where sin and the devil tempt no more!

  185. jeff1 says:

    God is here among us,
    Crying in the night,
    Cradled in our darkness,
    Come to be our Light.
    He was born to suffer,
    One with all who grieve.
    He is born within us
    As we just believe.

    Sharing all our smallness,
    Feeling all our pain,
    He is boundless blessing
    Time cannot contain,
    Song in all our silence,
    Peace in all our fear,
    Hope through every sorrow,
    Brother ever near.

    Star of all the ages
    Piercing through our night,
    Joy of every stable,
    Comfort, warmth, and light,
    Love’s unchanging promise,
    Heaven’s sure reward,
    Praise to You, our Savior,
    Jesus, holy Lord!

  186. foreverblessed says:

    Hallelujah, to the words of that song.
    Jesus came into our world!
    To share in our darkness.
    But since He is the everlasting Light, He will not be overcome by darkness.

    Yesterday I woke up, and the daylight shone through the curtains, and it was a sweet realization that Jesus is the Light that came into my life. It was a soft light, maybe I should say: it was a soft realization that Light shine into my darkness.

    (Normally we have wooden blinders on the outside, like French blinders, but yesterday I had left them open during the night. So the light shining through the curtains was something I had not seen a long time)

    Psalm 46:5
    God is within her, she will not fall.
    God will help her at break of day.

  187. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Forever blessed. If I had your mailing address I would send you a Christmas card. Our cards are a pictorial album of the past year. Including Matt’s friend’s that come to visit

    I always include the sunrise.

    As I look for that day when Christ rises as the sun and all eyes see Him.

    It is how I feel seeing the sun rise each morning, when in view.

    Please don’t think I would ask for your mailing address to be posted here, I am not.

    I do though have Bob in Cornwall’s address and send him a card every year.

    He is still with us and looks in once in a while at the blog.

    I am glad you too see Jesus in the morning light.

    Steve

  188. Beloved says:

    Steve I found an interview online you once did with a German reporter which I was reminded of when I read about a church there (Germany) being “raided” for worshipping. The article said this,
    “The German constitution has a paragraph that safeguards the “unhindered practice of religion.”

    Our country affords the same freedom. Forever I was wondering how the Netherlands handle freedom of religious practice?

  189. Beloved says:

    But if it is not the case, how could Jesus be mirroring something about the heart of his Father and the nature of his Kingdom when, on the eve of his humiliation, he reminded his best friends that he had not come to be served, but to serve?

    It seems to me that only a tyrant would not love himself or his creation or want his followers to seek out others to come into his kingdom unless they were slaves and needed to “prop up” the king making sure everyone was kept miserably needy. Forever. I wonder why the humiliation of Love is so hard to take? Just thinking. Could be the god of this world has blinded eyes to Truth.

  190. Beloved says:

    Not directed to you, Forever😉

  191. foreverblessed says:

    Religious freedom, we have it here.
    But I do not know what happens if the pandemic gets more severe.
    Then common sense takes over.
    Anyway, with this computer age: we can gather via internet. Each one in his own home. The Spirit is everywhere. I also thought that it was a good thing that christians get more close on a house scale. That personal bonds are made, not through buildings and institutions.

    A virus transmits from one human to another.
    At this moment in the bible belt the infection rate is very high. So this “christian” practice is a point of debate.
    I personally, do not think it a good example to go singing together and worshipping together in a building, and then infecting other people.

    Our own church has digital sermons. But the Protestant churches gather, 30 people maximum are allowed.
    This morning 🌄 the sky was very very grey.
    I had to tell myself: go praise the Lord!

    Why are you downcast, o my soul, yet praise Him!

    Dear Steve, I loved it when Bob in Cornwall was here. It is good that you have contact with him.
    I was thinking: the Spirit is everywhere! I can pray for him 🙏
    As I do for Matt, and Glenna, and you.
    And may God bless everyone on this blog!
    The Spirit is everywhere!

  192. Beloved says:

    “Be careful what you do with the best you have. Whenever you get a blessing from God, give it back to Him as a love-gift.”

    #myutmost #dailydevo #worship #ourbest
    utmost.org

    What else do I have but what I have received; love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

  193. jeff1 says:

    Religious freedom, we seem to be much more concerned with it than we do the freedom we find in Christ.

    I would have no means seen myself as a Calvinist and yet I find myself quoting this commentary today.

    Colossians 1:27
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    Colossians 1:27
    To whom God would make known
    The spring and cause of the manifestation of the Gospel to the saints, and chosen of God, is not their works, for God does not call them with an holy calling according to them, but according to his own grace; nor any preparations and dispositions in them before such manifestation, towards the Gospel and the truths of it, for there are none such naturally in men, but all the reverse; nor a foresight of their better improvement of it, when made known, for this is not the method of divine grace, witness the instances of Sodom and Gomorrha, Tyre and Sidon; nor any holiness in them, or because they were sanctified, for they became so by the power of divine grace, through the Gospel revelation; but it is the pure sovereign good will and pleasure of God; see ( Ephesians 1:9 ) ( Matthew 11:25 Matthew 11:26 ) ; as appears from what they were before the Gospel came unto them, what is made known to them in it and by it; and from this, that they and not others, equally as deserving, are favoured with it:

    what [is] the riches of the glory of this mystery among the Gentiles.
    The apostle, besides calling the Gospel a “mystery”, as before, ascribes “glory” to it; it is a glorious mystery, there is a glory in all the mysteries of it; it is a glorious Gospel, as it is often called, in its author, subject, matter, use, and efficacy: and also “riches” of glory, or glorious riches; containing rich truths, an immense treasure of them, comparable to gold, silver, and precious stones; rich blessings of justification, pardon, reconciliation, adoption, and eternal life; and rich promises, relating both to this life, and that which is to come; all which were opened and made known, not to the Jews only, but “among the Gentiles” also; who before were aliens, enemies, exceeding wicked, poor, blind, and miserable, but now, through the Gospel, were become rich and glorious, wise, knowing, and happy:

    which is Christ in you, the hope of glory;
    this is to be connected with all that goes before: Christ is the riches of the Gospel; the riches of the divine perfections, which the Gospel more clearly displays than the works of creation or providence, are all in Christ, the fulness of them dwells in him; and this is the grace the Gospel reveals, that he, who was rich with all these, became poor to make us rich; the rich promises of the Gospel were all made to Christ, and are all yea and “Amen” in him; the rich blessings of it are all in his hands, righteousness, peace, and pardon, the riches both of grace and glory; the rich treasures of its divine truths are hid in him; and he is the substance of everyone of them: Christ is also the glory of the Gospel, inasmuch as he is the author, preacher, and subject of it; it is full of the glory of his person, both as the only begotten of the Father, and as the only Mediator between God and man; it is the glass through which this is seen: moreover, the glory of God in him is expressed hereby; the glory of his wisdom and power, of his truth and faithfulness, of his justice and holiness, of his love, grace, and mercy, and every other perfection, is eminently held forth in the Gospel; as this is great in the salvation and redemption of his people by Christ, which the Gospel brings the good news of; add to this, that that glory which the saints shall have with Christ, and will lie in the enjoyment of him to all eternity, is brought to light in the Gospel: Christ is also the mystery of the Gospel; he is one of the persons in the mystery of the Trinity; the mystery of his divine sonship, of his divine person, being God and yet man, man and yet God, and both in one person, and of his incarnation and redemption, makes a considerable part of the Gospel: and Christ, who is the sum and substance of it, is “in” his people; not only as the omnipresent God, as the author of the light of nature, as the Creator of all things, in whom all live, move, and have their beings, but in a way of special grace; and the phrase is expressive of a revelation of him in them, of their possession of him, of his inhabitation in them by his Spirit and grace, particularly by faith, and of their communion with him, in consequence of their union to him; and being so, he is the ground and foundation of their hopes of glory. There is a glory which the saints are hoping for, which the glories of this world are but a faint resemblance of; which is unseen at present, and which the sufferings of the present time are not worthy to be compared unto; what is eternal, and which Christ has entered into, and took possession of; and what will greatly consist in beholding his glory, and in everlasting communion with him; this through grace saints have a good hope of, and are waiting for, and even rejoice at times in the hope of it; of which hope Christ is the foundation; for not only the promise of it is with him, but the glory itself is in his hands; the gift of it is with him, and through him; he has made way by his sufferings and death it, and his Spirit is the earnest of it, and the substance of it will be the fruition of himself.

  194. SFDBWV says:

    Joyce I hope I didn’t embarrass myself too much in the interview you found. I have been quoted, misquoted, rightly and wrongly quoted many times.

    It was very surprising when Julian ask to interview me, twice. He lives in Georgetown, Washington DC and works for Wirtschafts Woche.

    As Foreverblessed explained to me then, the European press is interested in why the common man would vote for Trump and as a follow up how the virus had affected us.

    I have no idea how he found me or chose me.

    Foreverblessed thank you for your prayers and concerns for my loved ones. How is your son?

    In the story of the Israelis in the wilderness, when pestilence hit the infected were put outside the camp until clean before able to rejoin the people.

    I suppose that could have been possible at the very outset of the virus, but not once kept secret and already spreading among the world.

    28 degrees f under grey skies with a slight coating of ice.

    Steve

  195. Beloved says:

    Do you have German ancestry Steve?

  196. Beloved says:

    I saw Matthews FB photo- good looking fellow!

  197. SFDBWV says:

    Joyce after my first ancestor arrived in Philadelphia in 1729 from Switzerland, my ancestral linage has become what some call “Heinze 57”.

    I did the spit test for “Ancestor.com” and discovered some expected as well as unexpected DNA results.

    Certainly western European as well as the British Isles and little bits of others.

    Matt thought if he went on FB he might gain some friends or some of his old ones back. However once getting him set up on it that concept failed. He can’t really do FB without my doing it for him and he didn’t like having to type in an attempt to communicate.

    Having to concentrate too much causes him anxiety and makes him nauseous.

    I am glad you liked his picture his friend Jennifer picked for him when she helped him set up his FB account.

    Steve

  198. jeff1 says:

    Steve, I love your sense of humour Heinz 57 varieties I know what your means as I have a somewhat chequered ancestry.

    Watching a lot of comedy these days as it takes my mind of the situation have lost a family member to Covid plus two other deaths one family related and the other friend related laughter is so therapeutic.

  199. foreverblessed says:

    Intercessory prayer.
    Street just commented in another topic: silent films, the second last topic.
    There I saw the prayer of Beloved again, a prayer for our son.
    Our God is a great God! Oh and how good that we reach to Him in our prayers.
    Our son is doing fine, he has recovered. Last night he called, and the situation in the hospital has eased. Most health workers who were ill with covid have recovered, so the strain is gone.
    Now is the waiting time, how many patients will come in, as the town had one of the highest infections this week. It is in the bible belt.

  200. SFDBWV says:

    Hello Viv, yes living in America or I used to say to Bob in Cornwall, “the colonies” we are all become a mixture of ethnic ancestry.

    It is to me the most ignorant question that they put on our census forms, asking our ethnicity. After my linage in this country being nearly 300 years there is no way I am Swiss. But that is the answer I have to give, given the choices they lay out.

    I too lost a second cousin to covid a few months ago. She a little older than I lived in California.

    Humor is a must in our home and in our lives. Matt Glenna and I watch a lot of comedies and of course I have to be the comedian as much as I can. it is always good to hear laughter, and to laugh.

    My great grandmother on my mother’s side came straight from Ireland, she married a man with Scottish ancestry and they were considered “Scotch Irish” because they were protestants.

    She and her husband are buried here in our cemetery and get a flower on their graves every Memorial day from me.

    Steve

  201. Beloved says:

    Chaos at the capitol right now. What a mess!!!

  202. Beloved says:

    Trump told his followers to come to the capitol today because “something big was going to happen” assuming VP Pence would decertify the election results but it appears that has changed.

  203. Beloved says:

    Reminded that God is LORD over the US as well as the whole world ever patiently waiting for His sheep to enter the sheep fold- with Great Humility. I love the peace only God can give me in times like these.

    Our fire alarm just went off and I had to mentally prepare myself for sliding down 4 flights of stairs- which I can’t walk down – without my cat!! Someone was yelling down the hall when my phone rang and it was the office telling me it was a test. A monthly test evidently they forgot to tell me about. Whew. God is in control, always, whether big or small events.

  204. SFDBWV says:

    On May 5, 1965 I enlisted in the US Marine Corps at Fort Holabird MD. I swore an oath in doing so.

    Every election I have been elected to the office of Mayor to my little municipality I am sworn in, I take an oath of office.

    The oath I took and take was and is to the constitution of the United States, and in the matter of being elected as Mayor I also swore an oath to the constitution of the state of West Virginia.

    Not to a man, not to a political party, not to an ideology, but to the constitution only.

    Trumps behavior is teetering on being subversive and these poor misguided people are being used by a would be tyrant. If they think he gives a darn about them, they are really deeply misguided and deluded.

    God’s will be done.

    Steve

  205. Beloved says:

    Steve I watched experts talk about what happens when a narcissist comes into any organization whether a church, business or government. The result is always chaos and division. I saw this coming. However He may choose to use anybody for His purposes even the mentally damaged. Yes, may Gods will be done as its always good.

  206. jeff1 says:

    Steve, I am Ulster Scots on my dad’s side but it is on my mum’s side it gets complicated or so I am told. Before I knew I was Ulster Scots I seen myself as British/Irish but I love to travel to other countries and enjoy the culture and traditions they have and hope that one day we will be able to enjoy our different cultures here without all the hostility that goes with it.

    I am sorry to hear that your relative died with Coronavirus, it was my ex husbands brother who died in England and as we have been on a 6 week lockdown since 26th December and England with even greater restrictions since the week-end none of the family from here were able to go to the funeral.

    There is a big family of them 13 in total 6 of them went to England and there is only 1 now remaining there.

    I love watching comedy’s as it really does help get through all the bad news that overwhelms at the moment but with the vaccine on the way we can look forward with some hope that it can only get better in the months ahead.

    God will find a way as He always does.

  207. bubbles says:

    Oh my. I just now found out what happened today. I had no idea. It’s disturbing and makes me even sadder. Everything is so messed up.

  208. SFDBWV says:

    Well one thing for sure there is no humility whereas Trump is concerned.

    I hope the congress throws him out of office for what he brought on yesterday.

    Just an example of what happens when you join forces with the devil to get what you want.

    Steve

  209. Beloved says:

    Concerning the will of God, I was thinking, since the crucifixion is Gods’ will directed toward groups —or individuals. I think individuals yet in our political climate today one could wonder. There’s too much “news” and opinion out there to really discern properly. Best to stick with what we know about Jesus and His Kingdom and let the world go on it’s not- so- merry ways. The wages of sin is death….

  210. foreverblessed says:

    When I come to this blog, then the mule is the first thing that captures my attention.
    Really really good!

    The whole world is viewing this with dismay!
    And it was on Three Kings Day!!!
    The day the Magi went to Bethlehem to honor the New King.
    With Gold and Mirre and Incense.
    They could be informed by the words of Balaam,,
    Yes, Balaam, with the donkey! Numb 22:21-35
    (So I am on topic)
    It is a good storey to read, now in this time where presidents press people to do illigal things.
    Balaam says to the Moabite king:
    I can only do whatever the Lord says. Numb 23:26
    No matter how much money is offered to curse, no, obey the Lord.

    But what is the connection with Three Kings Day, or Epiphany?
    In his fourth vision,

    He prophesied over Israel: a star arising over Jacob, that is the star the Magi knew about. (Says wikipedia)

    May God be with you all, may He bring peace in your heart.
    That peace that only Jesus can give.
    I was thinking about intercessory prayer, what all can I pray?
    Lord, have mercy on America!
    God be with the christians of the US, that they may remain being shining lights in a dark world.

  211. foreverblessed says:

    Balaam’s Fourth Message

    15 Then he spoke his message:

    “The prophecy of Balaam son of Beor,
    the prophecy of one whose eye sees clearly,
    16
    the prophecy of one who hears the words of God,
    who has knowledge from the Most High,
    who sees a vision from the Almighty,
    who falls prostrate, and whose eyes are opened:

    17
    “I see him, but not now;
    I behold him, but not near.
    A star will come out of Jacob;
    a scepter will rise out of Israel.
    He will crush the foreheads of Moab,
    the skulls of all the people of Sheth.(Or: all the noisy boasters)
    18
    Edom will be conquered;
    Seir, his enemy, will be conquered,
    but Israel will grow strong.
    19
    A ruler will come out of Jacob
    and destroy the survivors of the city.”

    Balaam sees a star rising over Jacob, a sceptre will rise out of Israel!
    He was that way before Isaiah talked bout a sceptre.
    God already had thd other nations in mind.

    The crushing in this prophecy, is not about destroying people, but destroying the idleness in them, the haughtiness in man.
    That is what Jesus came for to save us from.

  212. foreverblessed says:

    Before Balaam, Jacob prophesied about the sceptre of Judah, and he mentions a donkey too. (So it is on topic lol, I give some laughing in these grimm situation)

    Genesis 49:8-12

    “Judah, your brothers will praise you;
    your hand will be on the neck of your enemies;
    your father’s sons will bow down to you.
    9
    You are a lion’s cub, Judah;
    you return from the prey, my son.
    Like a lion he crouches and lies down,
    like a lioness—who dares to rouse him?
    10
    The scepter will not depart from Judah,
    nor the ruler’s staff from between his feet,
    until he to whom it belongs shall come
    and the obedience of the nations shall be his.
    11
    He will tether his donkey to a vine,
    his colt to the choicest branch;
    he will wash his garments in wine,
    his robes in the blood of grapes.
    12
    His eyes will be darker than wine,
    his teeth whiter than milk.

    Talking about Jesus?!

    He will tether His donkey to a vine, his colt to the choicest branch
    Is that a prophecy about Jesus, entering Jerusalem on a donkey, or is it a colt?
    It is both, says Matthew 21:5 Zech 9:9
    Never saw this connection in the blessing of Jacob over Judah

    The bible is all about Jesus. It takes a lifetime to see that.
    All haughty people will be brought low, and will eventually praise Jesus.

    Blessed is He who comes in the Name of the Lord
    Psalm 118:25-26

  213. bullwinkle11 says:

    Steve,
    How do I find the video of your interview? Would love to see it!

  214. SFDBWV says:

    You know Pete I have no idea. Joyce said she found it, maybe she can help. I never seen it nor either of the two interviews Julian did.

    If it helps my name is Steven Durst, I am the Mayor of Bayard, West Virginia and the name of the German news agency is Wirtschafts Woche.

    Steve

  215. Beloved says:

    Bullwinkle it isn’t in video form that I can find anyway but print with Steve’s picture. There wasn’t much content. Steve had mentioned being interviewed here a while ago though.

  216. Beloved says:

    It was by army corp of engineers in 2019 after flooding there.

  217. bratimus says:

    I don’t know what Trump said or didn’t say at the rally or what ever, I didn’t watch. I did hear what the media was saying about the protest not watch, and the drama they had in the narrative of if I thought the Capital was ablaze. I’m not saying that storming the building of congress was good, it is bad. The way the Democrats and media was spinning it was just as bad, if Trump started it. In leagues with the devil I would be very careful with both sides on that, the devils always in their details, you hear them saying that all the time, when it comes to bills and laws they pass.

    People are angry out there from being lied to non-stop and the devil will twist that anger to do evil. So I would tell people to keep themselves in check, be guide by Christ Jesus and the Holy Spirit.

    I would also warn people that things are probably going to get worse and not better with the changing of the puppets coming into the new terms

    Without the presence of God, that is where you will find the evil one is.

    the enabler is as guilt of the sin as the enabled.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  218. bratimus says:

    I really dislike politics

  219. Beloved says:

    So did Jesus.

  220. foreverblessed says:

    Last night my husband watched the Capitol. I heard Mitch Mcconnell’s speech. He said that the difference in amount of votes between Biden and Trump is not a small difference as it was in 1976, 2000, and 2004. It is such a big difference that there must be found a huge fraud to make it a frauduleus election. And there have not been found great irregularities.

    So his conclusion was that saying this election was frauduleus is plainly false. By the way, his speech was really impressive!

    In other words, my own words, that is a lie.

    In the rest of the world this storming of the Capitol is viewed as a great assault on democracy.
    It has brought a shock in the whole world!

    On the German news WDR1 they show it right now.
    Trump is shown, making a speech to the people at the Whitehouse, while the senators are gathered in the Capitol.
    He says: “We will walk to the Capitol, and we will stop the steal”.

    So just see for yourself.
    You cannot always say: We do not know what the truth is.

  221. jeff1 says:

    My mum had a good head for politics and she tried hard to get my dad into debate with her but it was no go as far as he was concerned but it has taken me till now to see why he was so strict in avoiding the murky world of politics.

  222. SFDBWV says:

    OK the cite Joyce googled me on isn’t an interview at all, but rather some discussion concerning our annual flood control inspection. Posted most likely by one of the inspectors for the Army Corps of Engineers.

    We have the inspections every year.

    The interviews I spoke of were from a foreign press 4 years and last summer.

    Enough about me please.

    I too hate politics and why I am Mayor. I think public servants should remember they are servants there to serve, not be served.

    Our friend Bob in Cornwall tells me his little church has become a church in hiding. As Christians are being blamed for spreading the virus and so they meet secretly.

    When we have council meetings I open with a prayer to God the Father, through Jesus the Christ His Son. Asking for the Holy Spirit to preside over our meeting so as to make certain we are in complete concert with His will in all matters.

    Whereas we are told to be humble, we also are told to be bold in our faith to God and fear not man, but our God.

    Steve

  223. jeff1 says:

    It has not been decided whether we will continue to meet in churches here but I know many are in favour of continuing with services on line as their are so many elderly parishioners and there has been increased Corvid cases here because new strain is very contagious and the overall thinking is of not putting anyone at risk.

  224. bratimus says:

    Matthew 24:9-14

    Don’t be deceived by all the pretty speakers speaking pretty pretty words.

    I had a dream from God, maybe God will reveal the dream to all in this blog.

    Not my place to reveal it here.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  225. bratimus says:

    Did anyone one see the prayer given in the house of congress where an hindu god was in the same prayer to the one true God of the Heavens. What do you think was going to happen when something like that was done.

    Exodus 20:1-6

    So I’m not one to go for the pretty words of men and women of congress.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  226. jeff1 says:

    Evil opposes You, my Lord,
    And those You free from sin.
    It sneers and shouts its deadly lies
    And whispers here within.

    You are my shield, O living Christ,
    My truth, my strength, my light,
    My joy, my song throughout the day,
    My keeper through the night.

    I can lie down and safely rest,
    Secure in all You are –
    Unfailing light when all is dark,
    The Bright and Morning Star.

    You are salvation, O my God,
    Pure love in all You do,
    And all are holy, safe, and strong
    Who simply trust in You.

  227. street says:

    He will tether his donkey to a vine,
    his colt to the choicest branch;
    he will wash his garments in wine,
    his robes in the blood of grapes.

    thinking the Father will tether His Service to a Vine His Servant the Colt, subordinate to The Father, the choicest Branch, Son of Man. He will cleanse His garments in Spirit and Truth. blood of grapes – thinking of the wine press of the wrath of God. Revelation. to be treaded alone by the Son of God.

  228. Beloved says:

    From his mouth comes a sharp sword with which to strike down the nations, and he will rule them with a rod of iron. He will tread the winepress of the fury of the wrath of God the Almighty.
    Revelation 9:15

    This verse comforted me greatly at a time I was deeply wounded by another believer such that it changed the course of my life. It literally took a couple years to recover and even memorialized it in a cut glass mosaic of Jesus on his white horse. It’s good that no matter what happens to us Gods justice can be counted on. Vengeance is Mine, says the LORD. I will repay. Whether He repays with Life or eternal damnation is up to Him.

  229. Beloved says:

    Sorry that’s Revelation 19:15

  230. street says:

    even so beloved we must find away to forgive. they meant it for evil God meant it for good. lean hard into the arms of Jesus.

    the contemplation of people going to hell is troubling. yet i know God is Just and blameless. i know i deserve to go there. Jesus is my hope and Salvation. His mercy is new every morning. surprised by joy.

    thinking of the wrestling match every human has with God. jacob prevailed. yet, not without a limp.

    thinking of abraham where he no longer struggled with God. trusted Him completely.

  231. street says:

    he will wash his garments in wine,
    his robes in the blood of grapes.

    2 Corinthians 4:8-10
    8 We are hard pressed on every side, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; 9 persecuted, but not abandoned; struck down, but not destroyed. 10 We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body.

  232. street says:

    Revelation 12:11
    And they overcame him because of the blood of the Lamb and because of the word of their testimony, and they did not love their life even when faced with death.

  233. street says:

    1 JOHN 3:19 This is how we know that we belong to the truth and how we set our hearts at rest in his presence:

  234. jeff1 says:

    Psalm 7:9
    Put an end to the evil of the wicked, but establish the righteous, O righteous God who searches hearts and minds.

    Job 31:6
    let God weigh me with honest scales, that He may know my integrity.

    Psalm 19:12
    Who can discern his own errors? Cleanse me from my hidden faults.

    Psalm 26:2
    Test me, O LORD, and try me; examine my heart and mind.

    Proverbs 17:3
    A crucible for silver and a furnace for gold, but the LORD is the tester of hearts.

  235. poohpity says:

    bratimus, how about the one who ended his prayer by saying, “Amen and a women” thinking that amen had a gender component to it rather than meaning “so be it”? Hang on folks we are about to be taken into a dark abyss of our religious freedoms being snatched from those who are not really grounded in their faith. Just as what has happened to this blog over the years by those who have chosen to lead in a direction away from God by concentrating on worldly issues.

  236. Beloved says:

    Yes street I know forgiveness is essential and forgave this person with a hug and a kiss on the cheek eventually. But it did not erase the deed or appease the great sense of loss. God meant it for good.., yes, as always though the grief and loss are real. I’m a more humble person because of it. Humility costs everything. It’s the grace of God we are not consumed by our sin.

  237. poohpity says:

    It does not seem that anyone really cares about discovering facts any more but would rather be fed by the left leaning media that leads so many astray to influence how people think(brainwashing) rather than sharing information to promote people to think for themselves.

    Just like taking scripture out of context to prove the point of the person writing their blurb and missing what the Lord wants to teach and guide us through the scriptures. In the morning what is the first thing one fills their mind with? That should be a signal of where one’s heart truly is.

  238. jeff1 says:

    I don’t know what is going on in America but the decision to close churches here came from the leaders of all churches as seeing how they have so many elderly parishioner’s they did not want to put them at risk.

    This is only a restriction while lockdown is in place.

  239. jeff1 says:

    These statements from C. S. Lewis are so accurate, how we look to fill our lives with substitutes while only God can make us happy.

    Then when people stop believing in God they believe anything else.

    It seems to me that in these two quotes Lewis sums up the problems in our world today.

    “And out of that hopeless attempt has come nearly all that we call human history—money, poverty, ambition, war, prostitution, classes, empires, slavery—the long terrible story of man trying to find something other than God which will make him happy.

    Once people stop believing in God, the problem is not that they will believe in nothing; rather, the problem is that they will believe anything.

  240. SFDBWV says:

    Jesus stood and wept over Jerusalem, because what He wanted to give her she rejected and cast a dark future over herself as a result.

    However because He is a promise keeper, she will once again be restored.

    How very sad that people can be so misled, but then that is how it all began. Eve misled by a lie she wanted to believe.

    Every parent out there knows the frustration of trying to warn a rebellious child of the consequences of their actions, only to watch as they fall down or worse.

    Knowing what would happen, but not being able to stop it.

    You could restrain the child, but that only makes the rebelliousness grow into anger.

    Left with nothing else but to watch the train wreck in slow motion.

    A humble parent will not say “see, I told you so.” Rather with pain in their hearts and a tear in their eyes, help the child up, pick up the pieces and continue loving the child.

    “Father forgive them, they know not what they do.”

    Jesus ask the Father to forgive all of us as he hung there in great pain and suffering; are we to do any less?

    28 degrees under grey skies.

    Steve

  241. Beloved says:

    Street thank you for caring with loving confrontation.

  242. Beloved says:

    Reading the account of Joseph’s reconciliation with his family I noticed his forgiveness was a painful process for him. We are so human. Jesus was too. His battle at gethsemane was painful to the point of sweating blood. Yet He did it alone- as did Joseph. Some battles we must go through alone. If it’s Gods will.

  243. foreverblessed says:

    This is a song Jeff shared on January 2

    The love of God is greater far
    Than tongue or pen can ever tell;
    It goes beyond the highest star,
    And reaches to the lowest hell.
    The guilty pair, bowed down with care,
    God gave His Son to win;
    His erring child He reconciled,
    And pardoned from his sin.

    Refrain:
    O love of God, how rich and pure!
    How measureless and strong!
    It shall forevermore endure?
    The saints’ and angels’ song!

    Could we with ink the ocean fill,
    And were the skies of parchment made,
    Were every stalk on earth a quill,
    And every man a scribe by trade,
    To write the love of God above
    Would drain the ocean dry;
    Nor could the scroll contain the whole,
    Though stretched from sky to sky.

    He is alive, and He is Lord,
    Now crowned with heaven’s highest name;
    And there in Him, by love restored,
    With all creation we’ll proclaim:
    “Worthy the Lamb, the Great I Am,
    All glory, power, and might.”
    With joy we’ll trace His boundless grace
    In all its depth and height.

    Such a great Truth
    Jesus is the same yesterday today and forever, whatever happens to our governments!

    Beloved, Joseph you mentioned,
    He went so far as to reconciliation, but he did that AFTER he had tested his brothers, to see if their hearts were changed.
    And when he saw that, he showed himself.
    But reconciliation is to my view one step beyond forgiveness.
    You can forgive a person, and yet stay away from them.
    Till you see their hearts are changed

  244. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Street for thinking over these verses on the colt and the donkey, and the grapes, and his garments.
    I had read this before, but now yesterday I saw something in it,
    Wow
    What does it say there?
    The garments and the wine, and Rev 19:15,12:11

    The grapes, has to do with His own Cross, not with the blood of all the people.
    His wrath is quite upside down to what we believe it to be.

    Thank you Jeff, for your bible verses,
    And Steve for mentioning about children, and not saying;
    I told you so.
    But weep with them
    (And now proofread before posting)
    😂

  245. bratimus says:

    Pooh,

    That is the same prayer that had the Hindu god in it, it was bad and ended bad. As most of the nation witnessed.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

    This is why end in the name of Jesus, so no one is confused on where I stand

  246. Beloved says:

    Yes he did Forever I was thinking of the several times Joseph wept while reconciliation leading to forgiveness took years to happen. Gods Providence played out from Joseph’s first dream as the youngest child. Not unlike David’s journey. All for Gods good purposes for His people.

  247. Beloved says:

    Forever you said: “You can forgive a person, and yet stay away from them.
    Till you see their hearts are changed”

    We’d all be alone then. I see no such command in scripture. Unless you can show me. James said to bear with another’s sin but be careful to not fall into the same sin. Alcoholics Anonymous does a good job of helping each other out meeting together in groups or I:I. Don’t forget the prisoners Paul said.

  248. Beloved says:

    My dear friend Forever I think that idea comes out of your fundamentalist upbringing? Law says “you must do this” and grace is freely given- loving and being loved just for existing.

  249. street says:

    Psalm 7:9
    Put an end to the evil of the wicked, but establish the righteous, O righteous God who searches hearts and minds.

    repentant and grafted into the Vine.

    humbled thankful and joyful

    God is light and in Him is no darkness.

    1 John 1:6
    If we claim to have fellowship with him and yet walk in the darkness, we lie and do not live out the truth.

    1 John 1:8
    If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

    we live by trusting in our Lord and Savior.

    John 10:10
    The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.

    abundant
    thinking of the diversity of creation.
    the diversity of the fruit of the Spirit.

    one passes away the other remains.

    ……deliver us from evil.

  250. Beloved says:

    I’m speaking of reconciliation in the limited sense. As in meeting again for the first time.

  251. street says:

    Job 31:6
    let God weigh me with honest scales, that He may know my integrity.

    if i am to be put on honest scales let me have a Mediator/Witness of Truth a Judge/ where the God and Man can come together without the man being condemned by the Holiness of God, and a Redeemer. job,The Righteous, asked for theses, in his complaint against God.

    Sounds a lot like Jesus, Mediator Truth and Redeemer.

    Word sent out to return man to God, into His presents.

  252. street says:

    Psalm 19:12
    Who can discern his own errors? Cleanse me from my hidden faults.

    Then he said, “At this season next year, you are going to embrace a son.” And she said, “No, my lord, you man of God, do not lie to your servant.” 2 Kings 4:16

    we heard His Word, time to come to Him and Trust Him.

  253. Beloved says:

    Dear street

    Presents:gifts
    Presence:awareness of

    Love,
    Joyce

  254. foreverblessed says:

    With “stay away” I mean:
    In an abusive marriage, you go away
    In an cultic church, you leave

    Another example gives Jesus, who did not show Himself to them, because He knew what was in their hearts.

    Joseph did not show himself to his brothers, untill he saw that their hearts were changed. Hd had to test them.
    But I bet that he had forgiven them in his heart already, as he had also seen how God had changed the bad they had done to him, into something very good.

    So with: “stay away” I mean: keep a safe distance, do not trust yourself to them.
    Unless, of course God tells you to go, and suffer their violence, ad did the apostles who were send to hostile areas, like Paul who did not stay away from hostile cities, but preached the gospel anyway.

  255. Beloved says:

    Ok thanks.

  256. Beloved says:

    Philippians 3:8Indeed, I count everything as loss because of the surpassing worth of knowing Christ Jesus my Lord.

  257. street says:

    Why would he demand that we love him?

    thinking of the demands of the law.

    we love Him because He first loved us. He proved it.

    side note life comes from Him, life does not come emptiness. those in love with sin are in love with death.

    He doesn’t want any to die and He is not silent.

    hope there is Jesus in your today and in tomorrow.

  258. jeff1 says:

    Our ignorance of God is incredible. How many times have I heard it said when someone gets more than their share of suffering that God is punishing them.

    It was said to me just the other day in a conversation with my sister in law that her daughter wondered what wrong she had done because she has had a lot of health issues and now her husband has MS.

    We make assumptions based on our ignorance of God because we have not listened to God and so come to our own conclusion as to why something happens to ourselves or another.

    While their may be obvious reasons for health issues i.e. alcoholism in early life leading to liver disfunction there are more cases of people not knowing why they suffer either poor health or otherwise.

    I have no reason to believe that God does ‘fair’ when it comes to wondering why an innocent child should die while a gangster lives a life of luxury.

    These are difficult truths that I for one does not try to answer because being a believer is about faith in God’s goodness and that ultimately He has good reasons for everything He does whether I see it that way or not.

    If God was that easy to understand then their would be no doubters, agnostics or atheists in the world.

    I have struggled in my faith and suffered the same doubts as another when suffering was my portion and what is truly amazing to me is that my faith is the stronger for it.

    I cannot tell you why I still have faith while most of my immediate family have lapsed but I can tell you that it is in seeking God I found Him and I spent most of my life on the run and in waywardness.

    Yes, God is still in to doing miracles from where I am standing.

  259. poohpity says:

    Joseph knew that what his brothers did was intended for evil BUT God had a plan in action that turned those evil actions into good not only for his family but for the nation of Israel and ALL people in the years to come. He did not let the root of bitterness take hold which is what happens to a heart that is not forgiving. God forgave before anyone admitted to their sinfulness and if that is good enough for God then who are we to hold grudges that turns a heart into being bitter and resentful. We forgive because God forgave us, we love because God first loved us and taught us what love and forgiveness is really all about.

    It seems that Joseph held revealing his identity so that he could get his whole family to come to Egypt. Joseph did many things that showed he had love and forgiveness for them before he revealed who he was because he knew that God had had a plan for him since he was a youngster and gave him the dreams he had. Joseph just did not know how it would happen.

    Not forgiving is putting ourselves in the place of God as a judge.

    Genesis 50: But Joseph said to them, “Do not fear, for am I in the place of God? 20 As for you, you meant evil against me, but God meant it for good, to bring it about that many people should be kept alive, as they are today. 21 So do not fear; I will provide for you and your little ones.” Thus he comforted them and spoke kindly to them.

  260. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Jeff, for that very very encouraging word!!!

    Psalm 108:1-6

  261. poohpity says:

    yes forever he did want to see if they had a change of heart about what they did to Joseph years prior but do you think that would have changed what Joseph was in Egypt to do for his family? I think God also tests us to see if we can recognize the sin that is in our own hearts so that we can confess it but the forgiveness was already done before we even confess.

  262. Beloved says:

    Viv I once saw a news video of an interview after a devastating tornado. Off in the background I saw a woman raise her fist to the sky and say “ What did I ever do to You!!” It’s fairly common isn’t it. If we don’t know God we don’t know God.

    But, as was just said here,
    “we love Him because He first loved us. He proved it.”

  263. jeff1 says:

    Beloved, I think it took me a long time to get to seeing God’s love and I can thank my dad for that because on the subject of suffering he pointed me to Christ’s for us and he never wavered from that.

    I should not try to figure God out or I will run into all kinds of problems but when I keep my focus on Jesus I accept the path set out and as God reveals truths to me I find peace in knowing He is in the driver’s seat.

    C. S. Lewis says we are not expected to succeed but to do what is right and God does the rest.

    I rob myself of peace when I fail to see that God is very much in control whatever this world throws at us He is always present in our struggles.

  264. street says:

    The Humility of God

    28
    They are a nation without sense,
    there is no discernment in them.
    29
    If only they were wise and would understand this
    and discern what their end will be!
    30
    How could one man chase a thousand,
    or two put ten thousand to flight,
    unless their Rock had sold them,
    unless the Lord had given them up? Deuteronomy 32:28-30

    “Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth, where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal. But store up for yourselves treasures in heaven, where moths and vermin do not destroy, and where thieves do not break in and steal. For where your treasure is, there your heart will be also.

    why was their end so bad? they could not enter His rest. they did not trust God like abraham. they stumbled over the law. thinking retribution theology prevented them from forgiving or seeing forgiveness. in the temple every day animals were killed to atone for the sins daily. sin did not get a bye. yet mercy was available daily by faith. the sacrifices ended about 2000 years ago, new covenant. mercy new every morning. the new much better. A.C.T.S. True Life in Christ Jesus through the Spirit He sent. learning to walk.

    2 fixing our eyes on Jesus, the pioneer and perfecter of faith. For the joy set before him he endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God. 3 Consider him who endured such opposition from sinners, so that you will not grow weary and lose heart. 4 In your struggle against sin, you have not yet resisted to the point of shedding your blood.

    in your struggle against sin find peace in Christ, His Light and Life in you. Romans 8:13 13 For if you live according to the flesh, you will die; but if by the Spirit you put to death the misdeeds of the body, you will live. Trust and obey for there is no other way…

  265. street says:

    January 9, 2021 at 12:57 am

    side note life comes from Him, life does not come from emptiness. those in love with sin are in love with death.

  266. foreverblessed says:

    Trust and Obey

    It is funny, that line has been going around in my head since last night.
    Also the -obey- our natural interpretation of that word has been tainted through sin.
    But that between true lovers, obedience to each other is a way of life. If you love another, you want to obey him.
    You are as the Psalm: the handmaid has her eyes on her mistress to see what she wants, Psalm 123:2 (we interpret that as slavish) but it is true love.

    Just as Jesus says, IF you love Me, you will obey My commands.

    But Before the obey, is the word Trust.
    If I trust Jesus to be my all in all, I completely am at His disposal, not ever a thought of hesitation, but fully comfortable in everything God is, and likes, with the full help of the HS.

  267. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, I was thinking about what you mentioned, the weeping of Joseph,
    Genesis 42:24,43:30,45:14
    That it showed the longing of his heart to be united with his brothers.

    Doesn’t that show the heart of Jesus?
    Luke 13:34
    O Jerusalem, how I have longer to gather you….

    With all the disasters that happen, Jesus weeps.
    How much it breaks His heart.

  268. foreverblessed says:

    I mean to say, I think this is what you implied, it took a while for me to let it sink in:
    In this regard Joseph was a real type of Jesus.

  269. Beloved says:

    I’m not really certain that God or Jesus still weep, I’m thinking we put too much “humanity” into our Diety sometimes. But we know from Scripture the Holy Spirit grieves. There are no tears or crying in heaven is what I think it says in Revelation. Could it be our tears replace heavenly tears as Christ’s advocates by appointment? I’ve always questioned God crying because to me He would be in a perpetual state of grief- given the vast numbers of sinners and sin at any given time. To me, it seems like the crying and tears ended at Calvary. Yet I’m open to think differently if I’m wrong. Sometimes I’m too practical minded for my own good though.

  270. Beloved says:

    Forever I wasn’t thinking actually past what I wrote, using Joseph as an example of the cost of forgiveness/reconciliation. That’s it’s a process if done correctly.

    Beloved says:
    January 8, 2021 at 11:08 am
    Reading the account of Joseph’s reconciliation with his family I noticed his forgiveness was a painful process for him. We are so human. Jesus was too. His battle at gethsemane was painful to the point of sweating blood. Yet He did it alone- as did Joseph. Some battles we must go through alone. If it’s Gods will.

  271. street says:

    human nature and forgiveness

    after joseph was sold by his brothers, benjamin became his Fathers favorite, since being bereaved of joseph. i think joseph understood this. he tested his brother to see if the envy and jealousy remained. it did not. they were not going down that road again. they loved their Father and understood his pain. judah would give his own life for benjamin.

    his bothers fears of joseph were unfounded. he had more than ample power and authority to deal with them as law breakers. He too wanted His Father to be pleased with his conduct. humility covering an offense is Spirit and Truth. forgiveness and mercy. this was before the law was given. the law shows these son what they already knew.

  272. street says:

    it would be interesting to see/be a fly on the tent with Father and 12 sons sitting around a fire in egypt.

    yet that is where we find ourselves occasionally.

    hopefully on sunday mornings.

  273. Beloved says:

    his bothers fears of joseph were unfounded.

    To continue my story of forgiveness I was counseled to sue the person/organization that injured me. I said no, Christians don’t sue Christians. When I returned a few years later I was met with shock and surprise by those who knew me there. They gave me a large grant to continue my studies which surprised me as well as those who understood the financial difficulties they were under. I did not apply for it. I think like Joseph’s brothers some also did not understand about forgiveness and mercy. Or maybe they were afraid that I didn’t understand. Hard to tell because it was never spoken about. I took classes with the same person who hurt me with no problem and as I said, a hug and a kiss on the cheek the last day of finals. I did not get the 2nd BA I wanted due to scheduling problems and just plain too old to do both work and school, but learned a huge lesson about how forgiveness doesn’t always mean it changes my life as it changes my relationship between myself and God. To do His will no matter the cost. Dying to self. . And the bonus of peace with man.

  274. jeff1 says:

    Engulfed by seas of change,
    Our Lord, we look to You.
    In peace and pain, in loss and gain,
    These things are always true:
    You reign, the Sovereign God.
    “Our Father” is Your name.
    Your love is pure, complete, secure
    And every day the same.

    When darkness hides Your way,
    On Christ the rock we stand.
    By faith we trace unchanging grace —
    All else is sinking sand.
    O God of ages past,
    Our Hope for years to come,
    Our Shelter from the stormy blast
    And our eternal home!

    Almighty only God!
    Creator, Shepherd, Lord!
    When faced by fear, with nothing clear,
    We rest upon Your Word.
    This is our Father’s world —
    Great Father, always true,
    Though all the wrong may seem so strong,
    We fix our eyes on You!

  275. street says:

    thinking tears in Heaven

    thinking the water that flows from the Thrown in Revelation. symbol of grace. tears of God?

    Sorry Dad.

  276. Beloved says:

    Symbol of holiness?

  277. street says:

    holiness like grace, unending in Christ Jesus. unchanging. does not run dry like here. no one will take your joy away.

  278. Beloved says:

    I always think of grace ending at judgement.

  279. Beloved says:

    Actually I’m thinking the end of this age of grace. The end. But of course God does not change; full of mercy and grace! And ❤️ love

  280. Beloved says:

    I think I understand Foreverblessed better now. Unending mercy and grace where all will be saved because of who He is. Though I’m not convinced I do see where she is coming from now.

  281. Beloved says:

    Sorry forever I don’t mean to talk about you out of your presence I suspect you are asleep now.

  282. street says:

    grace is getting what you did not deserve i.e a blessing

    mercy is not getting what you do deserve i.e. punishment/condemnation.

    God taking the penalty on Himself in human flesh

    giving Righteousness on the basis of Trusting His Word.

    given a new Spirit/ Holy Spirit in mortal flesh…

    new creation…..

    thinking what are the limits of this new creation?

    13 I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God so that you may know that you have eternal life. 14 This is the confidence we have in approaching God: that if we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know that he hears us—whatever we ask—we know that we have what we asked of him.

  283. foreverblessed says:

    1 John 5:13-14

    This is another one that is such a great truth:
    We know that we live in Him, and He in us, because He has given us of His Spirit
    1 John 4:13

  284. foreverblessed says:

    And we have seen and testify that the Father has sent His Son to be the Saviour of the world.
    If anyone acknowledges that Jesus is the Son of God, God lives in him and he in God.
    1 John 4:14-15

    Beloved, I do not know how a person can be saved without asking Jesus to save him/ her.

    But… I am hoping that God a will keep searching for a person, till he calls on Jesus to save him.

    For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that He may have mercy on them all.
    Rom 11:32

  285. foreverblessed says:

    I do not know how you come to this point, as I was talking about God weeping.
    When disasters happen, God weeps.

    That is quite a thing, as God is omnipotent, and full of love, nog, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control.

  286. poohpity says:

    I only remember one time when Jesus wept and that was before He raised Lazarus from the grave. We are left to assume about the why He wept because it does not tell us why. Human’s weep but God is Spirit (John 4:24) so I do not remember a time that we are told God weeps. It says He is grieved or filled with compassion plus other emotions but I can not recall Him weeping.

  287. Hugger4U says:

    Jesus wept three times:
    John 11:35; Luke 19:41: Heb. 5:7-9.

  288. bubbles says:

    When I was little I thought Jesus cried because Lazarus died, and when I got older, I thought maybe he cried because the other people were sad, and he felt their sadness. Now I wonder if he was crying because Jesus could see how death affected the people there, how death was a part of the fallen world, and he cried about that, and then also that he was going to bring Lazarus back from a better place, and he would need to die again. I don’t know. It makes me sad to see people suffering and nothing can be done about it in our own limited abilities.

  289. street says:

    3
    “Blessed are the poor in spirit,
    for theirs is the kingdom of heaven.
    4
    Blessed are those who mourn,
    for they will be comforted.

  290. foreverblessed says:

    Street, I love it with how few words you make a big point.
    Only words from the bible.

    Where in the bible does it say that God weeps?
    Thank you hugger4u for giving these scriptures.
    But when Beloved talked the other day about Joseph weeping over his brothers, I simply knew this:
    This is the heart of God 💕
    His heart goes out to us with great longing.
    Joseph wrote, but still had to take measures, to test their hearts.
    Pooh, I also do believe that Jesus tests our heart, before He shows Himself to us.

  291. foreverblessed says:

    Joseph wept (sorry, not wrote) but still had to take measures.

  292. foreverblessed says:

    God weeps — God full of Joy
    God is humble. — God is Omni-Potent

    Seeming contradictions.

  293. Beloved says:

    This morning I heard this:
    “We can’t understand God because He is infinite and we are only finite.”

    Any contradictions we come up with are moot, really.
    Just enjoy Him now and forever!

  294. Beloved says:

    Definition of moot
    1a : open to question : DEBATABLE
    b : subjected to discussion : DISPUTED
    2 : deprived of practical significance : made abstract or purely academic

  295. SFDBWV says:

    If you take the time to read for yourself, or the many books available to us, you will find that we made in the image of God possess the same emotions that God has.

    There are things God hates, things He loves, He gets angry, He gets even, He even proclaims to be jealous.

    Though we are like Him, we are not Him as He is perfect in the things we are not.

    Like I tried and failed to express several posts ago, Jesus wept over Jerusalem. Like Him many of us here in the USA weep over our country and what has and is becoming of it.

    I read long ago that one of the leaders of the Watchtower Society believed that the beginning of the end for mankind started with WWI. I don’t know, but there are a lot of things that have happened since then to make one wonder. Personally I see the downfall of the USA beginning in the 60’s with the election of John Kennedy and continuing to worsen through to today.

    One of the things I have learned is that with frustration anger follows.

    Sadly good Christian people see their country being changed from all the things that have made it the envy of the world, to what it is becoming and they don’t know how to stop it.

    If you look at the examples given in Scripture of countries who abandon God for their own desires and pleasures, you see they fall, they fail, they disappear.

    As hard as it is for some of us to accept, we Christians are a nation of itself, our King the Lord Jesus and this world is not our home.

    We cannot change what is to come in this world, but we can know that Jesus has already prepared for us a home with Him far from the troubles of this world.

    It is just hard to have the peace that offers while we suffer or suffer for others while still here. Just like Jesus does from that throne on high for the creation He made and weeps for even still.

    Steve

  296. Beloved says:

    Forever I understood what you were saying!

  297. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, thank you Beloved, I was so thrilled when I saw the Father heart of God when you brought up Joseph weeping over his brothers.
    Sometimes you get an insight and others don’t see it.
    Like one time I had an AHA moment about Psalm 119,
    That this Psalm is a Praise song about Jesus.
    It is Jesus
    The Alpha and Omega
    And all letters in between.

    I shared that among christians, and one pastor said to me;
    That is the art of “reading into” what is not there.

    And instead of feeling discouraged, I started to pray for this man. Thanks to the grace of God.
    A mourning heart, that weeps for the lack of insight on Who Jesus is and what the bible is:
    a revelation of who Jesus is and the history of how God dealt with mankind. Is that a good description?

  298. Beloved says:

    God gives us all insight at different times. He’s that personal!

  299. Beloved says:

    Colossians 3:23-24
    Whatever you do, do your work heartily, as for the Lord rather than for men, knowing that from the Lord you will receive the reward of the inheritance. It is the Lord Christ whom you serve.

  300. Beloved says:

    The humility of God

    Aaron’s Blessing
    22Then the LORD said to Moses, 23“Tell Aaron and his sons: This is how you are to bless the Israelites. Say to them:

    24‘May the LORD bless you
    and keep you;
    25may the LORD cause His face to shine upon you
    and be gracious to you;
    26may the LORD lift up His countenance toward you
    and give you peace.’

    I just read the Hebraic reading of this familiar blessing of the nazarites.

    YHWH will kneel before you[1] presenting gifts and will guard you with a hedge of protection.

    YHWH will illuminate the wholeness of his being toward you bringing order and he will give you comfort and sustenance.

    YHWH will lift up his wholeness of being and look upon you and he will set in place all you need to be whole and complete.

    1. Many people have contacted me concerned about the phrase “kneel before you” as they cannot perceive of God kneeling before us. We too often see God as the judge and ruler who sits high above us. But I see more of a familial type relationship with God, rather than a government type relationship. God is the father of us all, agreed? Well if my young son came to me with a request, would I tower over him looking down upon him? Or would I get down on his level by “kneeling” down and getting eye to eye with him and say, “What is it my son, what can I do for you?” Let me add that this is not a literal kneeling down, but a figurative one; the common Hebrew way of expressing an abstract thought through concrete means.

  301. Beloved says:

    But if it is not the case, how could Jesus be mirroring something about the heart of his Father and the nature of his Kingdom when, on the eve of his humiliation, he reminded his best friends that he had not come to be served, but to serve?

    I believe the Hebraic rendering of the Aaronic blessing (January 10, 2021 at 1:12 pm) reveals the servant nature of God. I’m impressed. Mart you’ve accomplished for me what you were hinting at. Thinking about whether God is really that good or? !

  302. Beloved says:

    I think I’m not the only one who struggles with Jesus and God as One and the same God. I and my Father are ONE, Jesus told them.

  303. Beloved says:

    I said that wrong. I know they are one God the struggle is seeing Jesus as servant and God the Father as heavenly dictator. Those of us who have no one else to go to count on His love and support. It’s the crushing and bruising of dying we’ve had enough of- to my estimation- but God doesn’t just want to rescue and comfort but to make us like Himself. Whoa. That’s where the rubber really meets the road as they say. Ouch

  304. Beloved says:

    Count the cost, He said.

  305. street says:

    I read long ago that one of the leaders of the Watchtower Society believed that the beginning of the end for mankind started with WWI. I don’t know, but there are a lot of things that have happened since then to make one wonder. Personally I see the downfall of the USA beginning in the 60’s with the election of John Kennedy and continuing to worsen through to today.

    thinking the end of mankind started in Genesis 3 the rest is about the Redemptive Plan of God. not light reading, but life changing.

    thinking of the framers of the constitution of the usa. at the time the understanding was they had been abandoned by God and needed to set up a government. they viewed the world like a windup top and let go by God to let it take it’s own course. after they realized this was a false understanding it was too late. an independence had been secured. now what do we do?

    10 When Timothy comes, see to it that he has nothing to fear while he is with you, for he is carrying on the work of the Lord, just as I am. 11 No one, then, should treat him with contempt. Send him on his way in peace so that he may return to me. I am expecting him along with the brothers.

    12 Now about our brother Apollos: I strongly urged him to go to you with the brothers. He was quite unwilling to go now, but he will go when he has the opportunity.

    thinking each generation of americans must make their choice to embrace God or not. as steve has pointed out it is not just the usa but every nation and people. the consequences could not be more dire for failure to do so.
    what benefit would there be to gain the whole world and lose your life?

    seek Justice Love Mercy walk humble with God.

    I urge you to live a life worthy of the calling you have received. 2 Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. 3 Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace. 4 There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5 one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all.

  306. phpatato says:

    Steve, your comment

    “Sadly good Christian people see their country being changed from all the things that have made it the envy of the world, to what it is becoming and they don’t know how to stop it.”

    As a Canadian, I can hardly recognize my country anymore. Our fearless leader is pushing hard on the UN’s new agenda “The Great Reset”, is promoting gender neutrality, has allowed the training of Communist China soldiers on Canadian soil. Canada, as it has been known, will fall; it will fail, it will disappear to be swallowed up, in my opinion, by the United Nations because this fearless leader is a puppet for the UN. As a global elitist, he believes in a One World Government. There is no stopping him and I fear by the time the next election rolls around, it will be well past too late for the next PM to reverse the damage. Humanly speaking of course.

    I realize that God IS in control and that it is His will for things in this world to be unfolding as it is (Canada included). Having said that, I can’t help but feel frustrated and yes that does turn to anger at what I see happening (or perhaps it can be anger that turns to helpless frustration). Then what follows is a deep sadness and then, some fear. What is this world going to be like in the coming years for my children and twin grandsons.

    But yes Steve, this world is not our own. We are simply passing through. Jesus is preparing a place for us, for where He is, we will be also. Indeed, we’ve got a mansion just over the hilltop…..

    Thanks for your post. It gave me a little pick-me-up reminder, that with Christ by our side, whom/what shall we fear. I will continue to teach that to my family.

    I have a feeling of urgency inside me. Has this feeling come because of the uncertainties, restrictions, lockdowns and a highly possible soon-to-be overnight curfew as a result of Covid 19? I just don’t know. But Covid and what I see happening, in not only Canada but in my Neighbour to the South, sure has my being unsettled. I can only pray. For my family. For my friends. For my country. For the US. For everyone affected because of Covid. For the world.

    Blessings to all

    Pat

  307. Beloved says:

    Blessings to you, Pat!

  308. foreverblessed says:

    About “our country”
    Let me give my point of view!
    Living in the Netherlands. I have never thought that this country was Gods country.
    I live here knowing that Gods Kingdom is a spiritual Kingdom. A Kingdom that lives in the heart of His followers.
    I do not have to defend this country.
    I have to stand as a Christian, staying true to Jesus, keep the integrity with Jesus, not making compromises with politicians to make this country “christian”.

    Jesus will come back on a white horse, but the sword will be in His mouth, striking people in their hearts: a spiritual strike.

    But….you guys have been reared in the “promised land”, in a christian country, having lived secure, maybe the realisation that we are sojourners here on earth, as Pat is saying, has to sink in.
    We can all say it, but living in a peaceful land with secure borders, gives a certain complacency.
    I have that too, I must admit, having had no war here for over 75 years. Feeling secure, not realizing that the protection is a heavenly shield,

  309. foreverblessed says:

    This article really struck me, and it describes how I stand:
    Citing the introduction:

    ” All four Gospels describe violence in the Garden of Gethsemane. Jesus wept alone among the olive trees, praying that the cup of suffering should pass from him. When he returned to his weary disciples, soldiers and religious leaders confronted them. Peter responded with a flash of steel and cut the ear off a man named Malchus. “Put your sword away!” Jesus said as he healed Malchus. “Shall I not drink the cup the Father has given me?” (John 18:11).

    Jesus was led to the high priest, and then the Roman governor. “My kingdom is not of this world,” he told Pilate. “If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders. But now my kingdom is from another place” (18:36).

    The kingdom of heaven is elusive. It comes not with a sword but a sacrifice, not a crown of iron but a crown of thorns. It arrives not through the powers of the world but through the inverted power of the cross, which is to say the power of powerlessness. Peter swung the blade. Jesus drank the cup.

    From Christianity Today, 2 Nov 2020
    When evangelicals disagree on the president.

    And this is my take:
    Do I want to be like Peter, swinging the blade
    Or do I want to be like Jesus, willing to suffer under persecution. But knowing that Jesus is my Lord, Who cares for me and All His?
    And besides: Who died for the sins of all.
    He loves All.
    But we all know that.
    (So now I proofread, and then post)

  310. foreverblessed says:

    But every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world.

  311. foreverblessed says:

    You, dear children, are from God and have overcome them

  312. foreverblessed says:

    Because the One Who is in you, is greater than the one who is in the world

  313. jeff1 says:

    Who is best equipped for the antichrist but the children of the light.

    Those who are worldly may not be aware of the schemes of the devil and to bring His Kingdom to earth how do we know God will not use warriors.

    God works differently in different people and so too in different nations as He may use one in the role of peace making and another to combat His enemies.

    Be very cautious when it comes to second guessing God in what His intentions are in the present world is my thinking today.

  314. foreverblessed says:

    O dear, what have I been saying?!!
    And the site be was blocked for posting the whole day!

    To say that I do not know what I am talking about, when I say something about:
    Not taking up arms.
    Matthew 26:52

    What to say about all these young men that died to free western Europe?
    Thanks thanks thanks.

    We have been to the allied graveyards. White stones endless long lines.
    And I weep for them, and their families.
    Would they not have come and landed on France coasts, we would have been a Soviet State. Many of my country men and women would have ended in the Goelag Archipel, as we are a rebellious people. We fought our way out of the Spanish Suppressors. Instead of having a Catholic government, we had a calvinistic government, and they gave no religious freedom either. William of Orange, the founding father of our country, nog the one who fought in Ireland, he did not like that at all. He wanted freedom for every one to choose their own religion.

    Peace to all of you.
    Each one should follow his own conscious, and see to it that it is cleansed by the blood of Christ, to make sound and pure decisions.

  315. jeff1 says:

    We sing a life completed,
    A friend You’ve carried through,
    A soul now filled with glory,
    Completed, Lord, in You.
    A heart that once was blinded,
    Was lost but now is found,
    A heart now lost in worship
    With heaven gathered round.

    We sing of You, our Father,
    Unfailing through the years,
    So patient through our struggles,
    So tender with our tears,
    So gentle with our failures,
    So faithful to provide,
    Almighty in our weakness,
    Forever by our side.

    We sing a day that’s coming,
    A day of endless joy
    When saints of all the ages
    Together lift their voice.
    We sing a faith triumphant,
    A promise proven true.
    We sing till soon, Lord Jesus,

    We stand complete in You.

  316. Beloved says:

    ◄ Colossians 2:10 ►

    New Living Translation
    So you also are complete through your union with Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority.

  317. Beloved says:

    Ephesians 2: 19 and to know the love of Christ fthat surpasses knowledge, that you may be filled with all the fullness of God.

  318. bullwinkle11 says:

    Forever, don’t think that it was you that was creating an issue of not being able to post. I was not able to login this morning, assume it was an issue with the site.

    Pat, I sympathize with your desire to end this movement we are seeing with a One World Government. Unfortunately, I feel that we are soon going to be shut out from public discourse. There is a movement in the US to close down dissenting opinions. Conservative voices are not being allowed on college campuses. Facebook and Twitter will remove anything that is posted that they deem not to fit a certain narrative.

    May we all seek to be more and more like Jesus as we witness an assault on the freedom of religion. The apostles were not free to express their faith in Jesus and yet that did not hinder faith in God and His Son. Pray for a revival of faith. My God will triumph!

  319. street says:

    The Humility of God

    completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love.

    Jesus did this while fulfilling the law and the prophets.

    yet He silenced the demons like He silenced the scribes and pharmacies.

    He bore the ignorance unbelief unfaithfulness to the end. there by purchasing the certificate of debt that was owed. to be received freely.

  320. street says:

    15
    And I will put enmity
    between you and the woman,
    and between your offspring[a] and hers;
    he will crush[b] your head,
    and you will strike his heel.”

    thinking the woman Israel.

    children of promise.

  321. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, children of the Most High, we are, if we walk in the Light. 1 John 1:7
    He is in charge.
    In that full assurance I write.
    And in that assurance I also pass on to you this warning that a German CDU minister said, the forerunner of the Christian Democratic party of Germany, January 7: (in my best attempt)

    “We as CDU are affiliated with the Republican party, many of them are our friends. We have had much personal contact.
    But what happened yesterday, that a president can give a speech and stir up a mob to enter a government building in an attempt to overthrow an election result, that is a dangerous.
    We know what it is when a man on Reichstag can stir up a mob.
    What a disaster it will bring on a country.
    We urge our fellow Republicans to stop this man, to impeach him so that he cannot come back in 4 years time.
    This man is a danger for democracy.”

    That was his dire warning. I think it was Armin Las het on Herman television, WDR 1, Tages Aktuel, January 7.
    This is not leftist media. The man is from the right wing.

    Twitter and other media companies do not close down Trump for no reason, but because Trump has given a speech to stir up to violence.
    “If you do not fight like hell you will loose your country.”
    Trump’s words on January 6.

    So to say that religious freedom is at stake is an assumption of great sorts.

    Also the prime minister of Germany, Angela Merkel, warned for Trump, she said that he had lied about the election fraud, as no evidence has come up. But he keeps on lying about it, poisoning people’s minds.
    Continuing lying as a politician is a dangerous path to walk on.
    My own wording, but Merkel talked about the continuous lying.
    She knows what it is to live under autocrats, as she lived in the Eastern Germany, that was under Soviet influence.

    To make this an assault on religious freedom is just plainly a very very sad thing to say.
    It makes me weep.

    May God clear your thinking and cleanse your conscience in the blood of Christ.
    That is my sincere prayer.

  322. foreverblessed says:

    German television. WDR1.

    They warn against this man, who uses a mob to get power.
    Power over a nation.
    And when it is too late they are hooked. And an army from overseas comes to their rescue.
    This is the story of Germany in the thirties and forties.
    They know what they talk about, and they see when a man like that arises.

    Jesus said to Peter:
    Put away your sword.
    And Jesus took up the cup. He chose for the cup in Gethsemane.

    Whereas Peter took the sword.

    The cup! A follower of Jesus, who will rule with Him, has a cup to drink.

    Matthew 20:22-23
    You will indeed drink from My cup

  323. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, that is Jesus!
    He bore the ignorance unbelief unfaithfulness to the end. there by purchasing the certificate of debt that was owed. to be received freely.

  324. foreverblessed says:

    Armin Laschet, CDU foreman.
    If you do a search on:

    Laschet zu Sturm auf Kapitol: Trump hat sich verkalkuliert

    And if you can read German, you can see his warnings, and as I said, he is a right wing man.
    So no excuse about these leftist media.

    I do this in pure love for you all.
    Out of 💕
    Open your eyes 👀
    And see the Light and walk in the Light,
    That is Jesus.

    Who took up a Cup

  325. Beloved says:

    Pat I was surprised by what you said about Canada, I had no idea! Goes to show the ones that really know what’s going on are those that live there. World news I’ve found out is just as biased as local news oftentimes. Perspectives are rampant but I do believe what you say. Funny because I’ve lived about 2 hours from Canada the past 20 years or so. Rarely get any news about Canada 🍁

    Some 35 years ago we were told that the US was going to be invaded by Russia from the north through Canada. This was during the Cold War. Scripture was used to provide evidence, Daniel I believe it was. Still, the US is not mentioned in biblical prophecy so have been expecting its demise for a long time. It may be soon if Christians don’t hold strong. But we never really know what Gods plans are in our little moment in time of our short lives. He may be purging His church is what I’m leaning toward. Enough for that subject.

  326. street says:

    thinking about richard wurmbrand he said people like trump are a warm up for the main event godlessness/ communism. if you think about it, governments were set up because people rejected God.

    i was reading scripture the other day it is said that what the people wanted will come. for the elect the coming of Christ, for the others the man of lawlessness.

    not a pretty picture for this world. pray for the peace of Israel. an unmovable peace in Christ Jesus. a joy that is complete in Christ Jesus. a love that never ends. conformed to the image of God. not to darkness.

  327. phpatato says:

    Beloved, I live about a 45 min drive outside Ottawa Ontario. The city is home to the Canadian Parliament Buildings, where the Federal Government sits in session and governs the country from (akin to your Washington, DC). Because of the political atmosphere, the news around here can be a balance between local news and Federal news, although there is more Provincial news, now that Covid is having Ontario’s Premier Ford issuing lockdowns/restriction orders. But suffice it to say, I probably hear more on Trudeau because of where I live. It is like I am getting it directly from the horse’s mouth.

    Bullwinkle, you are so right. The conservative voices are being silenced. This past weekend, Google and Apple pulled a conservative social media platform “Parler” from their app stores.

    But as you so rightly said…. “My God will triumph!” In Him do I place my trust! I pray I am not found sleeping when the time is that I should be watching.

  328. foreverblessed says:

    The Great Reset
    Look on it in wikipedia

    It is an initiative from prince Charles of England to make the world economy more sustainable, now that there is a reset in the economy because of the pandemic.
    And yes, conspiracy theories have developed!

    Why are so many christians fall for all these conspiracies?
    Why be so alarmed?

    When people want a more sustainable economy, why say that a world government will take over?

    The search for profit in the economy has long time taken over.
    Nature is plundered because of profit.
    People are exploited because of profit.
    Why is nobody warning about that?

    It is the Bible, who warns that we take care of the poor the needy, the alien. And of course for the land too!
    ” The land has had no rest”

    Crops after crops.

    And when someone says: let’s handle the earth better, people see a conspiracy!

  329. jeff1 says:

    Tell me, why should we be gloomy,
    And now what have we to dread?
    His joys have filled our journey,
    And His joys are all ahead.
    His hands are full of blessings,
    And His smile is our reward.
    We’re rich beyond all measure –
    We are children of the Lord!

    Refrain:
    So we’re bold today as we trust and pray,
    For no matter what may come,
    We live to lift all glory
    To the High and Holy One.
    We’re singing and bringing our praising and raising
    His love till all have heard.
    We live today rejoicing –
    We are children of the Lord!

    Though our journey may seem dreary
    As we cross this barren land,
    The King is always with us,
    And He’s always in command.
    His wisdom goes before us
    With His majesty above.
    Beneath and all around us
    Is His everlasting love.

  330. foreverblessed says:

    Amen and amen

  331. bullwinkle11 says:

    I don’t believe that anyone can defend the actions of a mob that went into the Capitol last week. The suspension of Trump from social media is not the worst thing that could happen. He has been his own worst enemy at times. That is not what I am talking about.

    In many places churches and schools are closed while it is still OK to go shopping for alcohol and marijuana. If a person even questions the effectiveness of the measures used to slow the pandemic they are shouted down or ridiculed. Small businesses are being devastated by many measures that have been ineffective at slow the disease. Suicide rates have climbed and people are dying from cancer and heart disease because they are neglecting care.

    Not sure what that has to do with a conspiracy nor preservation of the planet, but places that have totalitarian governments have long been guilty of polluting. Check out the air quality in China.

  332. bratimus says:

    The Bible does say to take care of the widows and orpaned and the poor. It also says that when doing the work of charity don’t let the left hand no what the right hand is doing. This Bible also says a good days pay for a good days work.

    I have never read in the Bible that governments should do charity work.

    The Bible also say respect the governments and the laws of.
    I read a lot in the Bible, never read that we are to depend on governments to pay living wages./

    I also read in the Bible seek the Kingdom of God first and seek the treasures from God, not the world.

    I have also read in the Bible that the times of sorrows will be hard and the tribulation will even be harder.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  333. foreverblessed says:

    Bullwinkle, countries that have no totallitarian regimes are also polluting, take my country, a very small country, and we are the second largest export country for food. US is first, the Netherlands is second.
    What do you think that this does to our environment?

  334. foreverblessed says:

    I lost my comment, one that said:
    Honesty compels me to say that I have believed many conspiracy theories when I was young.
    The pope was the dragon and Mr Strauss, the PM of Germany in the 70s was the beast.
    I confessed my sin, and God forgave me.
    So I am cautious now.

    Bullwinkle, the measures are taken to diminish the infection rate, the conspiracy thinking is:
    Oh, they are stealing our religious freedom.

    With the measures therefore always lines that have to be drawn, and always unfair sides to it.
    What if in a restaurant with good ventilation, and lots of space, why could that not be safe?

    In our country there is a worship team praying for our government, every Friday night, that they may be helped in wise decisions.

    On a side note 🎶
    The following appears when I look up this site, wonderful study to read:

    jeff1 says:
    January 6, 2021 at 7:27 am

    Religious freedom, we seem to be much more concerned with it than we do the freedom we find in Christ.

  335. poohpity says:

    The left can and does take things out of context by putting their spin to continue the brainwashing people to believe what their side says is reliable but sadly many do not take the time to listen to both sides so that they can think for themselves rather than what they are told to think.

    My friend attended the legal march on DC to protest the election which many have felt something was wrong which is their right to do so. She posted pictures on Facebook of the thousands that were praying and singing our national anthem while a few were running through the crowd trying to stir up people to breach the capital walls which they only got a hundred or so but there thousands who refused and even tried to stop them but without success. But you do not see the thousands doing the right thing in the left wing media or from the voices of the left who have since the election of Pres Trump for 4 years calling him the illegitimate president.

    Those same people who by the way challenged the electoral vote in 2016 and have called for violence, hatred, civil unrest and lawlessness since then. The American people have put up over the last four years of having slowly our freedoms being taken away like the freedom of speech well unless you are rioters burning down cities or destroying fed property with impunity.

    So again forever feeding off of left wing media never tells both sides does not promote thinking for one’s self but it does promote brainwashing.

  336. foreverblessed says:

    Deaf Pooh, Mary is telling us for a long time to look at our biases.
    I have been careful NOT to quote from the leftist media.
    But a German politician, who is NOT from the left, who warns against a man who can stir up a mob,
    And I have taken it from Germany, as they KNOW what can happen to a country when leader stirs up his countrymen.
    Open your eyes and see 👀

    But I have warned you, I have done what I should do. I am done talking to you.
    I hand this matter over to my Lord and Master, I lay my prayers for you at His feet.
    He kneels down ( thanks for that explanation Beloved) and hears your voice, and works in your heart
    ❤️

  337. foreverblessed says:

    O dear, didn’t proofread:
    Dear Pooh, Mart has brought to our attention our biases.

    God has no favouritism.

  338. poohpity says:

    All I know is that sin is worldwide and is in every person Christian or not just that Christians are held to a higher standard because they know what is right to do but still practice worldliness. I hope one day to be as godly as you think you are.

  339. foreverblessed says:

    For Bratimus:

    Deuteronomy 26:12
    When you have finished setting aside a tenth of all your produce in the third year, the year of the tithe, you shall give it to the Levite, the foreigner, the fatherless and the widow, so that they may eat in your towns and be satisfied.

  340. poohpity says:

    It may be wise to listen and apply to yourself the same warnings you think I need because I think you are in need of them more than me!

  341. jeff1 says:

    Forever, if there is one thing I have learned from my experiences it is that bringing a person’s attention to their biases is not always welcomed.

    I can also tell you that it is not always listened to as I didn’t listen to my dad and I have since tried to bring it to the attention of my friend and she told me straight she didn’t want to hear it.

    It is my thinking that in seeking God’s truth I got their myself in seeing my biases and so must others as God reveals as He sees fit and not as I think another should know.

    This is just my thinking from seeing that my own stubbornness did me no favours but you could not have told me that at the time and indeed my dad never forced the issue and neither I believe does God.

    You see so much more from the outside looking in than from the inside looking out if you get what I am saying.

  342. Beloved says:

    Richard Wurmbrand: Imitating Christ’s Humility on YouTube

    Sermon by a Romanian Lutheran pastor thrown into jail for being a Christian by the communists. “Tortured For Christ” is a movie made about him. (A book also). Jesus asked him, What is your name? His response- well, I found it very inspiring. Get ready to die. Or not.

  343. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you so much for giving that tip;
    Richard Wurmbrand: Imitating Christ’s Humility on YouTube

    It brought tears to my eyes!

    14 years in an underground prison, no sun no moon, hardly any food. And 17 hours a day of brainwashing.
    That the man stayed sane!
    He is a living example of the Loyalty of Jesus, Who said
    I will never leave you, nor forsake you. (Though Richard has died, but his sermon is still out here)

    He who has been freed by Jesus is free indeed,
    Even if he is taken captive in a dungeon.

    We should encourage one another to be willing to die for our freedom in Christ.
    Instead of dying in taking up the sword fighting for our religious freedom.

    Take up the cup, the one Jesus talked about.
    And put down the sword!

    Street, you have seen this? Of course you have! He really talks about dying to Christ.

    But we were dead when we accepted Christ. It only takes such a long time before that sinks in.
    When we were baptized we were buried with Christ, so that we could be risen to Life with Him.

    Ohhh, how deep their relation to Jesus! They, who in the dungeons have tasted and seen how sweet Jesus is!
    May my heart burn for You, dear Jesus.

  344. poohpity says:

    I pray that your heart does one day burn for Jesus, forever. I pray that for everyone who claims to be a follower of Jesus so that soon their actions will one day reflect that claim. Right now as the world is, we could sure use more of Jesus and less of self, pushing our own agenda, thoughts and perceptions unto others.

  345. SFDBWV says:

    “Where no council is, the people fall: but in the multitude of counsellors there is safety.” Proverbs 11:14

    That is one of a couple Bible quotes I have at city hall. A reminder to the council and me that decisions and actions we take need to adhere to God’s word.

    The fallout from the debacle in Washington DC could be covered by the simple Bible message that we reap what we sow.

    Trump fired every advisor that did not kowtow to his every whim and dared to disagree with him.

    The idea that every state where Trump lost was involved in a conspiracy to falsely report the election results in order to deny Trump another term is an insult to the people working at the polls, the officials overseeing them and even the Governor of each state.

    If you were to believe such an absurd concept, how then could you believe any election of the past 240 plus years?

    Back in the 70’s there was a movement in America from some to form “State Militias’”. The National Guard nor any State Police or Sheriff’s departments didn’t count by their standard. It was a grassroots movement by disgruntled citizens to side step the electoral process and the law of the land and form their own military organizations.

    It was fairly popular with the pain ballers and the like until Timothy McVey blew up the federal building in Oklahoma City killing men women and children, in a misguided attack against the federal government.

    Violence against our government is not the way, it is not what Jesus brought to Jerusalem nor to the world.

    The group that was in Washington quickly turned into a mob and a mob has its own momentum and disaster always follows.

    This is Trumps doing and he must accept the blame and take the consequences of his involvement in the entire matter.

    My editorial is done, I am way out of time.

    Another time perhaps another subject…

    Steve

  346. jeff1 says:

    “On the Wings of Prayer”

    Just close your eyes
    and open your heart
    And feel your worries
    and cares depart,
    Just yield yourself
    to the Father above
    And let Him hold you
    secure in His love-
    For life on earth
    grows more involved
    With endless problems
    that can’t be solved-
    But God only asks us
    to do our best,
    Then He will “take over”
    and finish the rest-
    So when you are tired,
    discouraged and blue,
    There’s always one door
    that is open to you-
    And that is the door
    to “The House of Prayer”
    And you’ll find God waiting
    to meet you there,
    And “The House of Prayer”
    is no farther away
    Then the quiet spot
    where you kneel and pray-
    For the heart is a temple
    when God is there
    As we place ourselves
    in His loving care,
    And He hears every prayer
    and answers each one
    When we pray in His name
    “Thy Will be done”-
    And the burdens that seemed
    too heavy to bear
    Are lifted away
    on “the wings of prayer.”

  347. Beloved says:

    Romans14
    The Law of Liberty
    (Matthew 7:1–6; Luke 6:37–42)
    1Accept him whose faith is weak, without passing judgment on his opinions.

  348. Beloved says:

    Since trump is brought up I want to share a video that just came up it’s on Twitter but hopefully not for long
    Tweet

    James O’Keefe
    @JamesOKeefeIII
    ·
    3h
    BREAKING:
    @PBS
    Principal Counsel Michael Beller Incites Political Violence In Radical Left-Wing Agenda

    “Go to the White House & throw Molotov cocktails…”

    “Even if Biden wins, we go for all the Republican voters, Homeland Security will take their children away…”

  349. Beloved says:

    He espoused all the children under the last four years of Trump should be put in special camps to “unlearn” and become more tolerant. It was a casual conversation (you could hear music in the background) but if this is what’s on minds of people with serious clout in the nation it’s not good. Best to be in the world and not of it but to be aware of what may be coming. Thinking wise as serpents but gentle like doves the Bible says.

  350. street says:

    thinking about rappers who sang about and glorified violence and sin in their music. their music came back to haunt them. they reaped what they sowed.

    the truth of a house divided can not stand is very troubling.

    turning your back on God leads to caesar. many will apply for the position, one will make it.

    hope there is a revival of light and truth.

    thinking that sodom and gemorrah will condemn jerusalem for what happen there. the founders of the usa will condemn what america for what it has become.

    the cool aid is potent

    manna from heaven is better.

    manna- what is it?

    completely foreign to this world.

  351. poohpity says:

    Boy blame can sure stop people from taking any personal responsibility for their own behavior. Why is it that there were “thousands” of people who did not breach the Capital and were peacefully protesting but the acts of 2 hundred that get the attention? Our law enforcement personnel have yet to determine who those people were that did that horrible thing by breaching the Capital yet the blame for their actions is so easy to throw out there without all the facts. Blame is wrong especially when people were not there nor do they know what actually happened but go on what they are fed by biased like spreading gossip and rumors but those who are used to gossiping and spreading rumors may not understand how wrong and damaging that really is.

  352. Beloved says:

    manna- what is it?

    Coconut toffee roasted cashews😊

  353. foreverblessed says:

    Manna Bread and wine

    I loved the story of Richard Wurmbrand, that the prisoners took the bread and the wine, so to speak, because they had “nothing”
    And yet they had the Lord’s Supper, together.
    Manna bread from heaven.

    Thank you very very much Steve, for your comment on Jan 12, 1.08 pm. You are not blind to what he really is doing.
    Dear Lord, forgive Pooh, for her judgments, having a deaf ear to what Trump is saying, and instead blame others for gossiping.
    Forgive her, she does not know what she is doing.

    Deliver us from evil

  354. foreverblessed says:

    Last night I had to think about the story of Richard.
    14 years in prison!
    14 years in sole confinement.
    Did he have a struggle in trusting God. Was his a Job story?
    Did he ever think; Lord, why have you forsaken me?

    In the chore of everything, do I believe in the goodness of God, whatever happens?

    Richard had lost everything, just a grey cell, and grey clothes.
    He did not even have a bible. Corrie ten Boom had smuggled a bible into the camp. And she was so happy with it.
    Richard did not have a bible.
    Nothing.
    He had nothing….
    And yet
    Everything
    Because Jesus was with him.
    Though he says, sometimes he didn’t feel it.
    And at other times he felt the Presence so intense, that would it have happened a moment longer, he would have died of the intensity. ( Or, how was the wording?)
    It is written in the bible: no one can see God and live.

    And indeed, the message of the Gospel is: when Jesus is born in us, through rebirth, we die.
    Our old man dies.
    Our old man is dead, but do not give into the thoughts that still enter our minds, stop them, and praise God!

  355. poohpity says:

    Yes Lord thank you for giving me the ability to look at the good things in others rather than their faults and failures. Thank you Lord also for helping me have discernment about the media I listen to and knowing what their biases are before I jump to conclusions about what I hear and see and teaching me to pray for wisdom before I speak and act knowing that I am a sinner saved by your precious grace and do not have room to talk about others.

    FYI forever, I know exactly what I am doing and Who has my heart.

    Does this sound like anyone you may know?
    Luke 18:
    9 Then Jesus told this story to some who had great confidence in their own righteousness and scorned everyone else: 10 “Two men went to the Temple to pray. One was a Pharisee, and the other was a despised tax collector. 11 The Pharisee stood by himself and prayed this prayer: ‘I thank you, God, that I am not like other people—cheaters, sinners, adulterers. I’m certainly not like that tax collector! 12 I fast twice a week, and I give you a tenth of my income.’

    13 “But the tax collector stood at a distance and dared not even lift his eyes to heaven as he prayed. Instead, he beat his chest in sorrow, saying, ‘O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’ 14 I tell you, this sinner, not the Pharisee, returned home justified before God. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

  356. poohpity says:

    forever, by the way you need not ask the Lord to forgive me because He knows that I know He forgave me 2000 years ago and that finished it as far as I am concerned. The only thing left is that I received that forgiveness and show it to others that is why I forgive you for your constant slander and put downs.

  357. SFDBWV says:

    In one of Leonard Cohen’s songs he states there is a crack in everything; it’s how the light gets in.

    Every time I tell this story I can’t hardly finish without choking up. I suppose because of what isn’t said, but the Spirit behind it.

    The veterans of WWI made a tent city on the outskirts of Washington DC as they came to Washington to persuade Congress to give them some benefits for their service.

    The President (not sure if Coolidge or Hoover) sent The Army led by Macarthur and Eisenhower to roust them out. The Calvary ran through the camp and without regard to the safety of the demonstrators broke up the gathering.

    However once Franklin Roosevelt was President the same group tried once again by setting up camp just outside DC.

    This time though the President sent his wife Eleonore…

    She met with the men and soon they all were singing patriotic songs and hymns.

    Since the raid on the capitol Trump, who is still the setting President, has not came on national TV and addressed the nation condemning the assault, explaining himself or in any way making an attempt to calm the temper of his supporters and begin to heal the divide.

    The spoiled little rich kid is off sulking. Blaming his accusers for what he is guilty of.

    Sounds kind of familiar doesn’t it.

    His supporters, misguided and misled, don’t realize it but they empower and strengthen those they oppose by their militant and riotous action.

    There is a crack in the liberty bell, let us pray that the light gets in.

    Matt and I are exhausted from grocery shopping yesterday. We need today to rest up.

    Thank you Foreverblessed for your kind words and friendship.

    Blessing for all today.

    Steve

  358. poohpity says:

    Gee Steve I saw and heard President Trump several times call for peace and to stop the violence on national TV. He called for that before the march and then again after. He also signed an executive order that anyone who destroys federal property will get a 10 year term in prison. I know you said you listen to CNN which is one of the farthest left news stations that there is so maybe listen to another like “Newsy” which gives facts to inform not to influence the way people think.

  359. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved says:
    December 26, 2020 at 9:46 am

    Spurgeon Dec. 26

    I am with you always
    Mathew 28:20

    This appeared when I signed in.
    Wonderful truths!
    The presence of Jesus in our hearts.

  360. foreverblessed says:

    To be honest, I have to say that I was deceived too. I was fooled. I listened to a man of God, so I thought he was. But after the prophecies that he prophecied did not come true. I did not leave that church. There is no excuse for that.

    The prophecy was that Jesus would come back in 1975, and 3,5 years before that we would flee to Jordania (Moab, ” hide the refugees” it says in the bible)
    (I still think it is possible that we have to flee instead of “taken upwards”
    But that’s beside my point now.)

    1975 came and was gone, and no return of Jesus, no Feet on the mount of Olives.
    If the prophecy does not come true, the man is a false prophet.
    And I should leave.
    No excuse.

    I liked that definition of CS Lewis, that Jeff gave two weeks ago:
    most of the time God excuses us, but if there is no excuse: God forgives.

    I professed my sin, and God forgave! Or in other words I denounced that this false prophet was my pastor, and in the Name of Jesus, I broke the bonds.

    The bread and wine,
    The body and blood of Jesus saves us and cleanses us.

  361. Beloved says:

    Good morning all!

    Isaiah 26:3
    “The steadfast of mind You will keep in perfect peace, Because he trusts in You.

  362. Beloved says:

    “When the heart is at peace with God it is rich with riches of heaven.”

    Spurgeon

  363. jeff1 says:

    I also note that Lewis said we are so much better at excusing ourselves than we are others and I have found that to be so true.

    It is easy to say forgive when you are not the who has been offended and the deeper the offence the more difficult to let go and let God or at the least forget the offence.

    Yet, Lewis also uses the Lord’s Prayer to show us that forgiveness means much more than words in God’s domain.

    Perhaps not so surprising why many walk away from the faith depending on whether you have been the offender or the offended.

    While I have struggled greatly with forgiveness I believe I am nearer God for seeking it both for myself and for those whose hatred I find hard to accept for it is in trying that I have inwardly wept and it is that weeping that makes me feel more worthy of God’s love which I have for too long being running from.

    To some extent I have my enemies to thank for I would not have seen my own sin so clearly and it is in seeing my own sin so clearly that I understand better my enemies and so hope God changes their hearts as He did mine in wanting an end of hostility towards each other.

    I can only do that and they can only do that when we put God first in our lives as it is His righteousness that we should be all seeking for us to agree and go forward into the future and since that future affects our children and our children’s children we should be all the more determined to pursue it.

  364. Beloved says:

    I was just thinking about this Viv.
    I say unto you, that likewise joy shall be in heaven over one sinner that repenteth, more than over ninety-nine just persons, which need no repentance.
    — Luke 15:7

  365. Beloved says:

    Can we repent over our inability to forgive and ask God to help us? Yes I think so.

  366. Beloved says:

    I John 1:9 English Standard Version
    If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.

  367. bratimus says:

    I did hear and see Trump on the same day of the unrest in DC put out a video condemning the violence. I doubt that national TV would have even put Trump on live to condemn the violence. That wasn’t there narrative for the day. Funny thing is left leaning media outlets were putting out headline or headers pushing violence before the President even spoke to the protesters. I heard the speech and read the speech after and I heard no words of of violence or promoting violence. Be very careful of what you watch and hear, there is a deceitful narrative out in the mainstream media, don’t be deceived, by what you see and hear. I’m not looking at the Trump presidency as who the man Trump is, I look Towards the policies he put fouth, you wouldn’t hear about them because that wasn’t the narrative the mainstream media want any one to see.

    God will judge Donald J. Trump on the man, I can only judge what he did as president, he had some good policies. God will judge Biden on what kind of man he is, not my place, I can only judge Biden of what he did in public office, It’s not looking good in that department. Remember public servants are servants to “WE THE PEOPLE”, that is what the governing authority says The U.S. Constitution, the big problem we have in The U.S. all that are Elected think that “WE THE PEOPLE” are subjects to the government, when it is that those holding office are the subjects. That is how lost this country is.

    I hate politics, politics makes politicians think they are kings and queen, when the truth is they are to be servants.

    Many say that the U.S. isn’t mentioned in the Bible, I’m coming to think that it is, and many are in denial over it. I’m coming to think that the U.S. just might be the great Babylon, read Revelation 18 and what is said that defines the great Babylon and then look to where the country is.

    Read Daniel and see How God use the kings of Babylon and their inter actions with Daniel.

    James 5 is also a good read for the day.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  368. Beloved says:

    Bratimus I was reading Revelation 22 about the new Jerusalem earlier. A very good read😀

  369. foreverblessed says:

    This is from the BBC website: 3 hours ago put there
    (excerpts from his speech:)

    “We won this election, and we won it by a landslide'”

    This is three minutes into his speech and repeats a false claim that Democrats say is the starting point for the incitement charge – not just because he said it on this day but for weeks before.

    This quote appears in the articles of impeachment – the charge sheet – prepared by Democrats and which they are debating on Wednesday in the lower chamber of Congress.

    In the months preceding the Joint Session, President Trump repeatedly issued false statements asserting that the Presidential election results were the product of widespread fraud and should not be accepted by the American people or certified by State or Federal officials. Shortly before the Joint Session commenced, President Trump, addressed a crowd at the Ellipse in Washington, DC. There, he reiterated false claims that “we won this election, and we won it by a landslide.”

    If the vote passes the House of Representatives, which is controlled by Democrats, it then goes to the Republican-controlled Senate for a trial.

    Trump:
    “‘We will stop the steal'”

    Here Trump is echoing the hashtag of the movement to fight Mr Biden’s election victory, which was started a day after the result was declared. It soon gathered pace on social media and led to rallies across the US. The largest one yet was the one Trump was addressing in this moment.

    The deep roots of Trump’s ‘voter fraud’ strategy

    Trump:
    “‘We will never give up. We will never concede. It doesn’t happen'”

    This is Mr Trump saying in the clearest terms yet that he will never accept Joe Biden’s win. And this time he is exhorting his supporters to join him.

    He, Trump, went on:
    “You don’t concede when there’s theft involved. Our country has had enough. We will not take it anymore.”

    At one point, the president says the Biden presidency has to be challenged.

    “You will have an illegitimate president. That is what you will have, and we can’t let that happen.”
    “‘If you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore'”

    This is the longest quote from Mr Trump’s speech that appears in the charge sheet. It could also be the one that his lawyers will find hardest to defend if the impeachment goes to trial in the Senate.

    He also wilfully made statements that, in context, encouraged – and forseeably resulted in – lawless action at the Capitol, such as: “if you don’t fight like hell you’re not going to have a country anymore.”
    Trump:
    “‘Peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard'”

    This is the part of Mr Trump’s speech that his defenders have seized on to show that he never incited the crowd.

    He said: “I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard.”

    The language is very different from other sections which borrow more from combat or war.
    ‘We are going to the Capitol’

    The president uses “we” but he didn’t join them as his supporters took the short walk from the rally to Congress.

    He said: “We’re going to walk down to the Capitol and we’re going to cheer on our brave senators and congressmen and women, and we’re probably not going to be cheering so much for some of them.”

  370. foreverblessed says:

    If you don’t want to read it please skip it as soon as possible.

    Better read Psalm 1

  371. Beloved says:

    Forever just to know- the BBC is very left leaning as is our National Public Broadcasting and often take things out of context or make the news to fit their agenda. Which is very anti-Christ when you read Psalm 1.

  372. bratimus says:

    Jesus said that many will be deceived.

    Matthew 24

    I did say that God revealed the truth to me, about the Election. And Asked God to reveal the Truth to people on this blog. that truth won’t come through mainstream media. that Truth will com from God.

    The Truth God showed wasn’t to change the results, it was more to show me what God was sending out because of the results of the Election. the many being deceived is the election.

    I won’t argue man’s so called truths, against God’s
    truth, God will win out every time. It is God’s will and all God’s prophecies, and everything is going to God’s will.

    2 Thessalonians 2

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  373. bratimus says:

    Believe it or not, I do know what I’m doing and talking about.

    I have been commenting on Truths that I know are of God.

    What you think God is going to let me go now, when things are to get exciting, because the day draws closer.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  374. jeff1 says:

    Thank you for the verses on forgiveness, Beloved, I believe that when I desire it in my heart God makes a way.

  375. Beloved says:

    Thanks Bratimus very encouraging.

  376. Beloved says:

    Revelation22

  377. foreverblessed says:

    That is great news, Jeff!!!
    May God help you.

    Revelation 22, God was always the first, He made the world out of NOTHING! He sustains everything by the power of His Word, or by the Word of His Power. (In both ways looks to me either way)

    When I was young I always thought that Europe was the Roman Empire, and that the Beast would come out of Europe.
    And the last four years, the dynamics of Europe have become stronger, as they could not lean on the US anymore. World leaders asking Angela Merkel for advice, what normally always was the place of the American president. Because of who Trump is, that is why they rather asked Merkel.
    I am not saying Merkel is the beast, oh no, not at all.
    She is a believer. A daughter of a Protestant preacher. Which is quite exceptionel, in Eastern Germany, that was communistic. She knows what persecution is.

    the feet of the Statue of Daniel, ten toes, made of iron and clay. I thought the time for Europe has come.
    But maybe that is halted now, since Trump is gone.

    You see, you can view this ordeal in many ways.

    But then…. What is Babylon?
    As you say, probably the world together, the world ruling without acknowledging God.

    Whatever way you may interpret bible prophecies, one thing is clear;
    God wants humanity on its knees, not to destroy them,
    But to save them.

  378. poohpity says:

    forever, are you aware that although they did not do it the legal way the Democrats also challenged the elector in 2017 on Jan 6th. They referred to President Trump the whole time he was in office as the illegitimate President and they at that time threatened him with impeachment the day after he took office and then did everything in their power to fight against him. Then they on every news station asked the people to show violence against everyone who served in his administration no matter where they were at home, in restaurants, etc.. That went on for 4 years. Now the Democrats are calling for any company that hires a Trump supporter to be persecuted. Just as the tech giants are blocking, taking away the free speech, of anyone who agrees with Trump.

    This summer during all the riots they did NOT ask them one time to stop but promoted and justified the destruction, looting, burning. While that was going on our new VP started a fund to pay the bail money to get them out of jail. The only difference was it was the Democrats doing it not the Republicans so the news stations are in bed with them get treated differently.

  379. poohpity says:

    Like I said before there were thousands that were peacefully protesting which is their right to do but the couple hundred that breached the Capital building are responsible for their own behavior and they should be held accountable but President Trump did not call for them to do what they did. It is easy to blame and in DC there is enough blame to go around and it should be directed at those who have called for violence since the day Pres Trump took office but it is those who get by with their insurrection driven speech.

  380. poohpity says:

    Trump was hated so much because he promised to expose the corruption in DC and those who are entrenched in life there who make money off of the backs of special interest groups and lobbyist feared exposure. But now that we have back in office the very one’s that embraced corruption and feel they are above the law nothing will happen to hold them accountable. After all they are the DC Mafia or as Trump called them, “the swamp”.

  381. Beloved says:

    I did a study on Eugenics last night. You know, the idea that other races are “washing out “ the white race to where it may no longer exist. Ugh. Along with removing the disabled of mind and body to purify. It was practiced widely here in the US with forced sterilizations. Hitler picked it up as most know. It is funded by billionaires around the world. Guess who was on one of the boards funding eugenics? The presidents counselor. I always wondered why he picked Kelly and who was she. Now I understand the presidents real reason for reinforcing the wall between us and Mexico. Did you know that with his new mandates Hispanics are afraid to get healthcare and crime is rampant now more than ever? This population is suffering more. What did God tell Israel? They were to be hospitable to strangers and aliens- not to condemn and withhold help. The Good Samaritan helped with medical care and housing. Our president is so proud of his wall, backed by proponents of eugenics and their money. I wonder how much money he has personally invested? I’m mad. Wolf in sheep’s clothing with dirty spots all over it. It’s no secret he likes beautiful women. Look at his family. Look at the people he surrounds himself- his favorite pastor Paula White. Every woman he appoints is model material. This was obvious to me from the get-go.

    So, you ask, what’s wrong with this? The devil is in the details. Purity through death and eliminate those deemed to be less-than. The height of pride. I will be like God he said, and you can be also. What a lie. The devil is in the details all over the place. Thank God for revealing the Truth about Who God is. A very humble God who loves everyone but needs no one in order to be the benevolent self sacrificing Father who gave His only Son to die for us all. Who welcomes the penitent and picks up the downtrodden. Grace mercy and justice for all! Jesus, my Savior. Amen

  382. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Pooh, I am very well aware of that. Big gatherings of people shouting: this is not my president!
    But….I do not remember Hillary Clinton inviting them to do so.
    She excepted her loss, and wasn’t she at the inauguration?

    But Trump invited everybody: come to Washington on January 6, something big will happen!
    Trump kept saying that the election was a fraud. Even to Republicans who were organising the elections in their State, they did not find great fraud, yet the president kept saying there was.
    It is this longtime unsubstantial claiming that is harmful!
    Many people, like sheep follow him, and believe everything he says.

    What did these people want to do on January 6?
    They wanted to stand by Trump…
    And then why the March to the Capitol?
    What did they want to do there?
    Waving flags?

    Telling the elections were a fraud?
    Telling Mister Pence not to sign the papers of the official election outcome?

    Mr Trump had a severe speech, many sentences were triggers, and yes: he also said that: we March peacefully.

    But at the same event Guliani said some severe things too:
    He said that Pence had the legal authority to stop the election outcome.
    And the son of Trump said some pretty uprising things too: that the Republican party was now Trump’s party.

    You know, when people do not believe God anymore, they believe anything, as Jeff shared.

    But do not compromise, and keep the integrity of Jesus!
    Not joining those who heep lies upon lies.

    We are sojourners here, part of a heavenly city: the Jerusalem from above.

    Beloved on biblestudytools there appeared an article today on the two cities of Revelation, saying that Revelation was not only written for the end time, but for the Church of all ages, to encourage them, and urging them to not compromise.
    We are not part of Babylon, but part of the heavenly Jerusalem, now already.

    In the spiritual sense.

  383. poohpity says:

    Beloved another very good example of spreading false information, jumping to conclusions and assuming. Just for grins look up who started Planned Parenthood which is proven eugenics.

  384. poohpity says:

    Forever you crack me up HRC never accepted her defeat she went around telling everyone that she was defeated because of Russia which it was her that was in with Russia not Trump. Russia Russia Russia

  385. foreverblessed says:

    Working together, not seeing the other party as the anti-Christ.
    Talking, communicating, debating
    And most of all, being reconciled to God, first,. ( That is for the christian politicians)

  386. Beloved says:

    Sanger

  387. Beloved says:

    I figured it would be way over some peoples heads here- not a problem. It’s for me a call to pray more specifically. And for others.

    Forever yes we are!

  388. poohpity says:

    yes Beloved it was Sanger and who now supports Planned Parenthood?

    President Trump is known as the first President that fully holds to LIFE for the unborn.

    Forever, I have heard the left call the right the anti-Christ yet it is the left who supports violence, abortion and everything else that goes completely against the values and beliefs of Christ.

  389. poohpity says:

    Over the last 4 and the previous 8 years which side has it been that has used the government to control how people think, that called the IRS to shut down conservative companies, that has ruined the life of those who stood with Trump, called the FBI and the CIA to investigate American citizens to name just a few things.

  390. poohpity says:

    Forever I know your country supports aborting babies that have things like down syndrome, etc. but that is not how Christian’s think. Every child is a gift from God.

  391. jeff1 says:

    I like to keep the faith in believing that those in corruption will one day find themselves no longer in places of power as I believe God is a just God.

    I can recall my mum speaking of corruption at local Government level and how she had expected more of those whom had been entrusted to positions of trust so corruption as been around for a long time.

    That just speaks of putting your trust in people will disappoint.

    God is not deceived and justice matters to Him and anyone who thinks differently clearly does not understand God.

  392. poohpity says:

    It would be nice if those who are called by the name of Christ acted more like the adults in the room.

    Rather than the name calling, false accusations, slander, fire starters, those promoting destruction of buildings, businesses, statues, looting and harming others which are signs of childlike and evil behaviors.

  393. foreverblessed says:

    That is really funny, Pooh!
    I do not remember that Hillary did that!
    In fact, this is what she did on the day after the elections:
    She even called Trump that same day to congratulate him.

    November 9, 2016
    From the Guardian:

    Hillary Clinton called on her supporters to accept the US election result on Wednesday, as she delivered a concession speech in New York in which she pressed Donald Trump to hold fast to American values.

    “Donald Trump is going to be our president,” she said, speaking at the New Yorker hotel in Manhattan. “We owe him an open mind and a chance to lead.”

  394. foreverblessed says:

    Oh dear Pooh, you may pray for my country!
    Thank you very much for your prayers!

  395. Beloved says:

    Satan hates us because we bear the image of God.

  396. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Beloved, I am still meditating on Richard Wurmbrand,
    Imaging sitting in a dungeon, 14 years long.
    They learned to communicate with each other via morse codes.
    And finally they did take the “Communion” together. Breaking the bread, which they did not have, but they did as if they had bread, and broke it, and prayed thanks and remembered the body of Christ.

    Even so, they took the cup, and prayed, and drank it, and remembered the blood of Christ.
    All the while knocking the morse codes, and having nothing in their hands. But Jesus was there, and He is all in all.
    He who made everything out of nothing.

    I do imagine christians sitting there, the one a Republican, the other a Democrat.
    How they would seek unity in the Body and Blood of Christ.

  397. Beloved says:

    Yes he is a model for the lost and lonely within the Body whether in prison or alone in a big house or a crowded rest home that no matter the circumstances God is always within reach.

  398. bratimus says:

    I’m only talking about my country, I can only talk to my country and maybe a few allies of. I would never talk about another country or say how it should run or what it is or isn’t. Some might want to go find their watchman of their nation or territories. I can only speak of my nation and where I think it is going. I know my territory, and I would never trespass in another’s without permission, So I was just speaking to what is of mine. God has seen to the needs of nations and territories with watchman to watch and warn over them.

    In Christ Jesus name

    Bratimus

  399. Beloved says:

    OUR GREAT GUARDIAN
    Opening Prayer
    Lord, make me aware of my spiritual surroundings.

    Scripture Reference
    JUDE
    Read
    The Warnings of History to the Ungodly
    1 [a]Jude, a bond-servant of Jesus Christ and brother of [b]James,

    To those who are the called, beloved in God the Father, and kept for Jesus Christ: 2 May mercy, peace, and love be multiplied to you.

    3 Beloved, while I was making every effort to write you about our common salvation, I felt the necessity to write to you appealing that you contend earnestly for the faith that was once for all time handed down to the [c]saints. 4 For certain people have crept in unnoticed, those who were long beforehand [d]marked out for this condemnation, ungodly persons who turn the grace of our God into indecent behavior and deny our only Master and Lord, Jesus Christ.

    5 Now I want to remind you, though you know everything once and for all, that [e]the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, [f]subsequently destroyed those who did not believe. 6 And angels who did not keep their own domain but abandoned their proper dwelling place, these He has kept in eternal restraints under darkness for the judgment of the great day, 7 just as Sodom and Gomorrah and the cities around them, since they in the same way as these angels indulged in sexual perversion and went after [g]strange flesh, are exhibited as an [h]example in undergoing the punishment of eternal fire.

    8 Yet in the same way these people also, dreaming, defile the flesh, reject authority, and speak abusively of angelic [i]majesties. 9 But Michael the archangel, when he disputed with the devil and argued about the body of Moses, did not dare pronounce against him an abusive judgment, but said, “The Lord rebuke you!” 10 But these people disparage all the things that they do not understand; and all the things that they know by instinct, like unreasoning animals, by these things they are destroyed. 11 Woe to them! For they have gone the way of Cain, and for pay [j]they have given themselves up to the error of Balaam, and perished in the rebellion of Korah. 12 These are the ones who are [k]hidden reefs in your love feasts when they feast with you without fear, like shepherds caring only for themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn trees without fruit, [l]doubly dead, uprooted; 13 wild waves of the sea, churning up their own shameful deeds like dirty foam; wandering stars, for whom the [m]gloom of darkness has been reserved forever.

    14 It was also about these people that Enoch, in the seventh generation from Adam, prophesied, saying, “Behold, the Lord has come with [n]many thousands of His holy ones, 15 to execute judgment upon all, and to convict all the ungodly of all their ungodly deeds which they have done in an ungodly way, and of all the harsh things which ungodly sinners have spoken against Him.” 16 These are grumblers, finding fault, following after their own lusts; [o]they speak arrogantly, flattering people for the sake of gaining an advantage.

    Keep Yourselves in the Love of God
    17 But you, beloved, ought to remember the words that were spoken beforehand by the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, 18 that they were saying to you, “In the last time there will be mockers, following after their own ungodly lusts.” 19 These are the ones who cause divisions, [p]worldly-minded, [q]devoid of the Spirit. 20 But you, beloved, building yourselves up on your most holy faith, praying in the Holy Spirit, 21 keep yourselves in the love of God, looking forward to the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to eternal life. 22 And have mercy on some, who are doubting; 23 save others, snatching them out of the fire; and on some have mercy with fear, hating even the garment polluted by the flesh.

    24 Now to Him who is able to protect you from stumbling, and to make you stand in the presence of His glory, blameless with great joy, 25 to the only God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord, be glory, majesty, dominion, and authority before all time and now and forever. Amen

    Meditate
    Consider
    “For he will command his angels concerning you to guard you in all your ways” (Ps 91:11).

    Think Further
    Most commentators agree that the letter of Jude was written by the brother of Jesus. Jude wants to write about salvation, but he first wants to warn the faithful about wicked men who are sneaking in and perverting the grace of God. This probably refers to an early heresy which taught that being saved by grace gave believers full license to sin. Jude is scathing in his condemnation of these people who indulge the flesh freely and encourage others to follow them. He employs a long list of historical examples and memorable metaphors to shore up his point.

    It may not be popular to speak in such vitriolic fashion today, but we must recognize what is at stake for Jude. Godless teachers are perverting the church by spreading heretical teaching, and he feels he must “contend for the faith that was once for all entrusted to God’s holy people” (v 3). Today these dynamics remain relevant – people still seek to deceive believers and destroy the purity of the Christian faith. Carrying God’s truth is an awesome privilege but a heavy responsibility: perhaps the church today should adopt Jude’s passion and urgency in defending it.

    Jude ends with a powerful word of reassurance to his readers and to us. It is a doxology of praise “to Him who is able to keep you from stumbling and to present you before His glorious presence without fault and with great joy” (24). What an incredible promise that, though we fight against heresy and immoral living, it is God who keeps and protects us. Although false teachers and deadly temptations lurk, we need not be afraid if we trust in God and are grounded in Him.

    Apply
    God presents us before His glorious presence, faultless and joyful. Temptation and error may surround us, but God is our guardian. Trust Him and thank Him for His protection.

    Closing Prayer
    Lord, Your people are grateful for the many warnings contained in Your Word designed to encourage and protect us in this hazardous spiritual environment.

    Scripture Union 1/14

  400. jeff1 says:

    The storm engulfs my soul.
    O God, You claim You’re here,
    But all I see is wind and waves,
    And all I feel is fear.

    The troubles flooding in
    Defy my frantic prayer.
    O Savior, are You sound asleep?
    O Jesus, do You care?

    I long for quick relief.
    You long for all my best.
    I call You to my anxious fear.
    You call me to Your rest.

    Almighty, present God,
    Each moment fill my view.
    My peace is not a circumstance
    But always, only You.

  401. Beloved says:

    Almighty, present God,
    Each moment fill my view.
    My peace is not a circumstance
    But always, only You.

    When I am truly loved by another human being present to me I feel the peace of God. Truly loved unconditionally with no rules or expectations on my part. To find Jesus in flesh is a great gift to give to another. Love changes things that are broken.

    Just thinking how my PTSD has not been an issue for a while now even with tremendous stress of pandemic, packing/moving/unpacking and still trying to figure out what all the bells and whistles on my car are. Thank you for loving me. The humility of God. Yes.

  402. poohpity says:

    “Undivided”

    We may worship different ways
    We may praise Him and yet spend all of our days
    Living life divided
    But when we seek Him with open hearts
    He removes the walls we built that keep us apart
    We trust Him to unite us

    In our hearts, we’re undivided
    Worshiping one Savior, one Lord
    In our hearts, we’re undivided
    Bound by His spirit forevermore
    Undivided

    It doesn’t matter if we agree
    All He asks is that we serve Him faithfully
    And love as He first loved us
    He made us in His image
    And in His eyes, we are all the same
    And though out methods they may be different

    In our hearts, we’re undivided
    Worshiping one Savior, one Lord
    In our hearts, we’re undivided
    Bound by His spirit forevermore
    Undivided
    Jesus is the bond that will remain

  403. poohpity says:

    You see Billy got picked on in school
    For things, he couldn’t change
    He tried his best to play it cool
    But in the seventh grade, you either fit right in or you don’t fit
    That’s just the cold hard truth
    I wish that I’d have been the friend that Billy never knew

    I think it’s time to come together, you and I can make a change
    Maybe we can make a difference, make the world a better place
    Look around and love somebody, we’ve been hateful long enough
    Let the good Lord reunite us ’til this country that we love’s undivided

    Yup, you either go to church or you’re gonna go to Hell
    Get a job and work or you’re gonna go to jail
    I just kinda wish we didn’t think like that
    Why’s it gotta be all white or all black?

    And when we gonna learn to try on someone’s shoes sometimes? (That’s right)
    When we gonna start to see from someone else’s eyes?

    I think it’s time to come together, you and I can make a change
    Maybe we can make a difference, make the world a better place
    Look around and love somebody, we’ve been hateful long enough
    Let the good Lord reunite us ’til this country that we love’s undivided

    Oh yeah
    Undivided
    Oh yeah

    And we’re all the same to God, no matter what we get His love
    I’m tired of looking left or right, so I’m just looking up

    I think it’s time to come together, you and I can make a change
    Maybe we can make a difference, make the world a better place
    Look around and love somebody, we’ve been hateful long enough (Hateful long enough)
    Let the good Lord reunite us ’til this country that we love’s undivided

    C’mon
    Oh yeah
    Undivided
    Oh yeah

    You either go to church or you’re gonna go to hell
    Get a job and work or you’re gonna go to jail (Undivided)
    I just kinda wish we didn’t think like that
    Why’s it gotta be all white or all black?

  404. jeff1 says:

    There is no thinking person
    Who can stand untouched today
    And view the world around us
    Slowly drifting to decay
    Without feeling deep within him
    A silent, unnamed dread
    As he contemplates the future
    That lies frighteningly ahead . . . .
    For, like watching storm clouds gather
    In a dark and threatening sky,
    Man knows that there is nothing
    He can formulate or try
    That will stop the storm from breaking
    In its fury and its force,
    Nor can he change or alter
    The storm’s destructive course,
    But his anxious fears are lessened
    When he calls on God above,
    For he knows above the storm clouds
    Is the brightness of God’s love . . .
    So as the “clouds of chaos”
    Gather in man’s muddled mind,
    And he searches for the answer
    He alone can never find,
    Let us recognize we’re facing
    Problems man has never solved,
    And with all our daily efforts
    Life grows more and more involved,
    But our future will seem brighter
    And we’ll meet with less resistance
    If we call upon our Father
    And seek Divine Assistance . . .
    For the spirit can unravel
    Many tangled, knotted threads
    That defy the sill and power
    Of the world’s best hands and heads,
    And our plans for growth and progress,
    Of which we all have dreamed,
    Cannot survive materially
    Unless our spirits are redeemed . . .
    And only through a living faith
    Can man achieve this goal,
    For safety and security
    Are born within the soul.

  405. jeff1 says:

    should read: That defy the skill and power

  406. foreverblessed says:

    What a good song that is, Pooh.
    Very good.
    As for my country, I was 🤔
    (Thinking)
    How can we lure our fellow citizens to look to Jesus?

    Jesus said: let them be one do the world may see…
    Unity and reconciliation among christians.
    As a christian to be reconciled to God first and foremost.

    I live in the south, that was all catholic, with the reformation this the south stayed loyal to the catholic church.
    But….the people are very conspious about christianity.
    Misleading, authoritarian, child abuse.
    When they think of christianity they think of a pope who decides how they have to believe.
    They think of harsh nuns, who thought them in primary schools.
    They think about double standards.

    But… Some good news:
    Catholic and Protestants sitting together in church, for Christmas, and Ascension day ( which is a big christian holiday here)
    I am part of the Oecumene. All kinds of different churches in my city take part in it. And I just pray and pray for them, and of course for myself.
    To hear the still small voice of God. Because I see and hear things among christians that make me shudder. But I keep my mouth shut, instead I pray intercessory prayer.

    Unity amongst christians.

  407. foreverblessed says:

    Talking about praying for my country:
    (Don’t feel obliged, but if the Spirit gives you a prayer):

    Our government is going to step down.
    Before they are impeached.
    (Talking in US terms, as impeachment in our country is called: a motion of distrust. Similar to the UK government.)

    Stepping down of our government is not a big deal in the world scenario. As the government of the US has big implications to the whole world.

    Our prime minister Rutte, is a christian. A dutch Protestant.But he doesn’t talk about it in public.
    In the pandemic times they have done quite a good job. Trust of the citizens in their government helps a country to be led (from leading) in a good way.

    But there was something wrong in the Tax system. And the ministers who were responsible for that didn’t notice it. And when they noticed they were lax in seeing to it that things were changed.

    That the government steps down today, doesn’t help the Tax system being changed, but it gives s sign that those that are responsible for the wrongs didn’t take their responsibility.

    They will hold their Covid responsibility, that means all measures to be taken during the pandemic, they are considered as a real government.

    Thanks for your prayers 🙏

  408. poohpity says:

    Jesus asked, “Do you love me?”

  409. street says:

    I think it’s time to come together, you and I can make a change
    Maybe we can make a difference, make the world a better place
    Look around and love somebody, we’ve been hateful long enough
    Let the good Lord reunite us ’til this country that we love’s undivided

    Matthew 10:34
    “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword.

    seems to me the change begins with self in the presents of God. people come together it’s like congress.

    It is for freedom that Christ has set us free. Stand firm, then, and do not let yourselves be burdened again by a yoke of slavery. Galatians 5:1

    22 But you have come to Mount Zion, to the city of the living God, the heavenly Jerusalem. You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly, 23 to the church of the firstborn, whose names are written in heaven. You have come to God, the Judge of all, to the spirits of the righteous made perfect,Hebrews 12:22

    11 Both the one who makes people holy and those who are made holy are of the same family. Hebrews 2:11

    when the law is proclaimed there is no peace. when the Gospel is proclaimed there is joy.

    grace taught my heart to fear, grace my fear relieved.

    may my joy be undisturbed.

  410. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed I read of your governments admission of guilt and the situation with welfare recipients on BBC. In my opinion the Rutte government has done the right and honorable action in accepting blame.

    One of my many, even too many, opinions I have stated before I love history and science as both relate to my faith.

    History proves man’s inability to govern himself and Science proves the existence of God.

    Be at peace my dear friend.

    Steve

  411. Beloved says:

    Forever I read about it also on DW. So sad what happened to people. Corruption is all over the globe.

  412. Beloved says:

    Street when I was a new believer I was told by someone that I needed to change churches because I wasn’t getting fed where I was at. God revealed Himself to me there and I knew the only way to know Him better was through the Bible so changed churches. I learned all about the Law- also about grace, but more so about what I couldn’t do than anything about mercy and forgiveness for my sins. The pastor even stated that he no longer sinned. Wow. I did though. In my rebellion I started an ecumenical Bible study at a restaurant early before our children got up for school. I wanted to prove to myself and others that my pastors’ way was way too difficult and that God loved us all no matter which denomination we belonged to. Even when we sinned. I never felt that God had forgiven me for my sins. How could He? Why would He? So many questions I had with nobody to ask. We studied a book with the Bible. It seemed we all agreed. I was just trying to make the world a better place- as the song goes. Not the awful place my pastor said it was. I’ve since understood better. Conversion is the first step but it’s not salvation. That takes commitment and willingness to change to doing things His way. It’s an ugly journey (dying) but joyful!

  413. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Steve, for your kind words. When I read them, it was as if the peace from Jesus began to flow.

    We can encourage each other in Christ.

    It wasn’t about corruption,
    It was about anti-corruption measures, taken especially against families with double nationalities. Great suffering in those families. They will be compensated. Is the promise.

    Beloved, thanks for sharing everything.
    The Law, versus Grace
    That is also how we as christians often want our Government to be: having the laws of the bible ( often from the OT)

    As Street said: the Gospel!!!
    Grace, mercy and pointing to Jesus, that His life in us will change our hearts, so we can change.
    Not only the teachings of Jesus, but the One making it possible to adhere to them.
    And as fellow christians stand by each other, in the love of Jesus, just as Steve stood by me.

  414. street says:

    attended a good Bible study tonite and the subject was the law. 2 groups 1. most people will say they are a sinner/ not perfect.
    2. group will say they are a sinner and absolutely helpless in this state. the law/ works can not make us acceptable to God. how then shall we live? with thanks giving for redemption in Christ Jesus. given a new life through the Holy Spirit. yes we are still sinners and sins presents is in us. yet we mortify the the old man/flesh by the Spirit. following Christ.

    thinking about being Holy, only in the presents of God. no darkness there. Jesus is to thank for that. not possible without Him. being helpless is humbling, mercy is wonderful. grace even better!

    Jesus said, Come to Me. what is holding you back?

  415. Beloved says:

    How do we mortify sin? John Owen said: Kill sin or it will kill you.

    Romans 8 explains that we suffer for doing good- killing sin. Giving our attention to the Holy Spirit by filling our mind with what pleases God. Reading scripture, singing psalms and spiritual songs, praying etc. casting all our cares on Him because He cares for us. It’s a struggle yet better to suffer for doing good than doing evil.

    Sounds like a good Bible study street.

  416. foreverblessed says:

    Grace and Law
    Good topic!

    The Law cannot save us.

    Thanks for all the comments.
    I will give some more thoughts:

    1- Jesus is not only our Savior,
    Meaning the One Who redeemed us, that is: He went to the prison and paid a price to buy us out of the prison.
    Col 1:13

    Without that Redemption we would still have been in prison.

    2 He is our Life.
    His Life flows through us,
    The Bread from heaven,
    We live Through Him, and there faith in Jesus is our connection to Him.

    The 7 “I Am” of the Gospel of John.
    And that is something the Law cannot do.

    1- I am the bread of life John 6:35
    2- I am the light of life John 8:12, 9:5
    3- I am the Gate John 10:7
    4- I am the Good Shepherd John 10:11
    5- I am the resurrection and the life John 11:25
    6- I am the way and the truth and the life John 14:6
    7- I am the true vine John 15:1,5

    I was thinking, Jesus was explaining Who He is, it was already coming to the end of His life on earth, and He still only had told 4 “I am”s.
    The 5th I am is just a few weeks before His death, when He resurrects Lazarus.
    That must have been a great boast to Jesus, knowing His death was close, He knew He would be resurrected.

    And on the night before His death, He would give the 6th and 7th I am.

    Living in faith in Jesus is so hard.
    We rather follow a set of rules.

    Jesus came, and gave a new set of rules, but we can only “do” then if His Life flows through us.

    Jesus shows the way, but He also IS the way.

    The Law is helpless

  417. foreverblessed says:

    Jesus shows the Way but He also Is the Way

    (just the short comment) 😊

  418. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Foreverblessed, yes I agree living in faith in Jesus is hard.

    Have you ever felt disappointed or let down by God? Have you ever thought or even said “I’ve done everything right, everything you told me to do.” only to once again be faced with what you perceive as to be let down, even abandoned.

    You believe, you ask and yet you don’t receive.

    Left only with that tiny little mustard seed of faith.

    Martha felt let down by Jesus because she believed that if only Jesus would have come her brother would not have died. That has nothing to do with Martha’s adherence to her duties, it was her faith in Him that questioned why he had not come.

    In that story her brother’s death was so that Jesus could be glorified and others witness His power and come to believe in Him.

    Yes, Foreverblessed it is very hard to think that God may use your pain, heartache and suffering for His purposes. Even if in the long run for our own good.

    Especially when we think if He would just show up when we ask, the heartache could have been avoided.

    16 degrees f after a wet one inch snow yesterday evening. More snow on the way for the next few days.

    Looking forward to spring.

    Steve

  419. jeff1 says:

    I have discovered that facing the truth about myself makes it easier to keep my faith in Jesus.

    As a young person I was full of my own truths and when a young but distraught (though I didn’t see it at the time) English soldier said to me if only you Irish would kill each other and leave us English out of it.

    It was like a red flag at a bull and I lashed out at him with no thought that his mates were being picked up in bags because me and my fellow countrymen/women had taken hatred to a new level and young men like him were suffering the consequences of it.

    BLINDNESS? OPEN THE EYES OF MY HEART LORD!!!

  420. jeff1 says:

    Just thinking that Sin is so easy disguised when I believe I have right on my side!!!

  421. poohpity says:

    Amen Viv, to your comment of 7:34 am!

    Steve, Mercyme wrote a song that expresses what you seem to be going through in your comment @ 6:18 am called “Even If”.

    They say sometimes you win some
    Sometimes you lose some
    And right now, right now I’m losing bad
    I’ve stood on this stage night after night
    Reminding the broken it’ll be alright
    But right now, oh right now I just can’t

    It’s easy to sing
    When there’s nothing to bring me down
    But what will I say
    When I’m held to the flame
    Like I am right now

    I know You’re able and I know You can
    Save through the fire with Your mighty hand
    But even if You don’t
    My hope is You alone

    They say it only takes a little faith
    To move a mountain
    Well good thing
    A little faith is all I have, right now
    But God, when You choose
    To leave mountains unmovable
    Oh give me the strength to be able to sing
    It is well with my soul

    I know You’re able and I know You can
    Save through the fire with Your mighty hand
    But even if You don’t
    My hope is You alone
    I know the sorrow, and I know the hurt
    Would all go away if You’d just say the word
    But even if You don’t
    My hope is You alone

    You’ve been faithful, You’ve been good
    All of my days
    Jesus, I will cling to You
    Come what may
    ‘Cause I know You’re able
    I know You can

    I know You’re able and I know You can
    Save through the fire with Your mighty hand
    But even if You don’t
    My hope is You alone
    I know the sorrow, I know the hurt
    Would all go away if You’d just say the word
    But even if You don’t
    My hope is You alone

    It is well with my soul
    It is well, it is well with my soul

  422. poohpity says:

    I know for myself that there are many times I feel discouraged and disheartened in what I see as God’s failure to act when and how I want Him to. But He always gives me something to restore my hope sometimes it is just a whisper but it brings hope with it. I pray that God will give you a whisper of Hope today.

  423. jeff1 says:

    The words of this song reflect how my heart has changed in seeking God’s truth!

    There were times in the days gone by
    When I thought I was living, having fun with all the friends I knew
    Now it seems all so long ago
    For my life changed completely from the moment I met you

    Come what may, I will love you forever
    And forever my heart belongs to you
    Come what may, for as long as I’m livin’
    I’ll be living only for you

    Now I know I was lost till I met you
    When I met you, love told me what to do
    Come what may, in a world full of changes
    Nothing changes my love for you

    Never ask what the past was like
    I will live for tomorrow, yesterday is very far away
    Now you’re here, everything is new
    You are all that I long for, and I long for you to stay

    Come what may, I will love you forever
    And forever my heart belongs to you
    Come what may, for as long as I’m livin’
    I’ll be living only for you

    Now I know I was lost till I met you
    When I met you, love told me what to do
    Come what may, in a world full of changes
    Nothing changes my love for you

  424. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Steve,
    Not in the depth of what Matt, and you are going to through.
    But yes, I have thought: have you forgotten me Lord?
    I had asked that during the night, when migraine came back after I thought it was beaten.

    I have shared that here before.
    It was a night when snow came, for the first time. (That is a trigger for headaches)
    In the morning I felt better, and I thought:
    I will shovel the snow in the front of our house, before people walk on it.
    I walked to the pavement, and I looked right and left:
    There was snow at pavement in front of the neighbor left and right, but not on ours!
    And I “heard” a voice:
    “See, I have not forgotten you!”

    It was not a voice, it was a knowing that entered: a truth revealed, so to speak.

  425. foreverblessed says:

    Today it started to snow 🌨️
    And I have no head problems!

    Steve, you know, there is a deep truth in:
    We will share in His suffering, so we will share in His Glory.
    Romans 8:17

    And the Glory of Jesus is also: saving many.
    We share in His saving.
    I cannot explain it, but we do share
    As Only the Cross is enough,
    But we share in the Cross
    In some mysterious way.

    Paul said: I want to know…the fellowship of sharing in His suffering

    What a prayer
    Phil 4:10
    I do not think that I have ever prayed that!
    But God is teaching me something anyhow.

  426. Beloved says:

    *If Indeed….

    If it is so, why does the God of the Scriptures seem pathologically consumed with his desire for praise and glory?

    Why would he demand that we love him?

    12So then, brethren, we are *under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh— 13for if you are living according to the flesh, you must die; but if by the Spirit you are putting to death the deeds of the body, you will live. 14For all who are being led by the Spirit of God, these are sons of God. 15For you have not received a spirit of slavery leading to fear again, but you have received a spirit of adoption as sons by which we cry out, “Abba! Father!” 16The Spirit Himself testifies with our spirit that we are children of God, 17and if children, heirs also, heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ, if *indeed we suffer with Him so that we may also be glorified with Him. Romans8

  427. foreverblessed says:

    You mean to say:
    We cry Abba Father, because of the love of God shed in our hearts, by the Holy Spirit?

  428. foreverblessed says:

    Gal 5:16 is the verse of the day on bible gateway.

    The text is Paul’s battle-cry, which he opposed to the Judaising disturbers in Galatia. They said ‘Do this and that; labour at a round of observances; live by rule.’ Paul said, ‘No! That is of no use; you will make nothing of such an attempt nor will ever conquer evil so. Live by the spirit and you will not need a hard outward law, nor will you be in bondage to the works of the flesh.’ That feud in the Galatian churches was the earliest battle which Christianity had to fight between two eternal tendencies of thought–

    the conception of religion as consisting in outward obedience to a law, and consequently as made up of a series of painful efforts to keep it,

    and the conception of religion as being first the implanting of a new, divine life, and needing only to be nourished and cared for in order to drive forth evils from the heart, and so to show itself living.

    The difference goes very far and very deep, and these two views of what religion is have each their adherents to-day. The Apostle throws the whole weight of his authority into the one scale, and emphatically declares this as the one secret of victory, ‘Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lusts of the flesh.’

    Alexander MacLaren on Gal 5:16

  429. foreverblessed says:

    For me as a young person I did not know what it meant to walk in the Spirit.
    Better be safe, and just walk by the written law, the 10 commandments.

    When I read Martin Luther, the one from 500 years ago:
    Walking in faith behind Jesus, is like burning your boat, and walk after Him.

    Burning your boat….
    No turning back on the ocean, to your old country.
    To the well acquainted path,
    But go in the unknown, but in trusting Jesus, getting to know Him better and better.
    After all, He is the One that died for me, to save me out of the pit.

    Studying the Life of Jesus, then looked a better thing than all the laws in the first 5 books of the bible.

  430. street says:

    Jesus asked, “Do you love me?”

    15 When they had finished eating, Jesus said to Simon Peter, “Simon son of John, do you love me more than these?”

  431. foreverblessed says:

    It’s all about Jesus.
    Jesus getting closer to our hearts 💕

    I was thinking about the question of Steve: have you ever felt unheard by God?

    This struggle has brought me to a place where God wanted me to be;
    Praying for other people, not for myself anymore, as the healing of my head seems to be waiting. I thought: better pray for others.

    CRight now we are watching hour of Power
    He talks about Chutzpah. Audacity
    Prophets in the OT, who would not go with God when He said He would destroy the rebellious people:
    No God, don’t do it, forgive them and save them.

    Not just passive love, but great passionate love, like Moses, who prayed in two instances, when Israel rebelled: Lord, don’t destroy them.
    Even when God had decided to destroy the people, actually Missed gainsayed God. Isn’t that the other way around?!!

  432. street says:

    Not just passive love, but great passionate love, like Moses, who prayed in two instances, when Israel rebelled: Lord, don’t destroy them.
    Even when God had decided to destroy the people, actually Missed gainsayed God. Isn’t that the other way around?!!

    thinking when we beg and plead with God for mercy forgiveness and grace for others, then our hearts reflect God’s heart.

    yes the disobedient did die in the desert because of unbelief. yet they stored up the full measure of un righteousness. yet God promised to keep a remanent.

    like esau and jacob before they where born God chose who He would bless.

    all are blessed in Christ Jesus.

    the blessing… The Gift of God.

    the fortunes of jacob restored in Christ Jesus.

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