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Seems to me

Seems to me

Seems to me… that for most of Jesus’ public life he spoke in riddles— and did things that pointed to himself as the Answer.

For those who read (past tense) the Scriptures in a way that gave themselves annual atonement— while seeing the rest of the world as destined for judgment—Jesus talked and lived outside the lines of the way they connected the dots.

But in the end, He showed that he would rather die like a criminal outside the walls of their vision of his Father, rather than conform to the rules of their hypocrisy.

Until the end of his public life, He read the Scriptures like a mystery that would only be solved in a way that even his own disciples could not accept.

Only after dying, rising, and ascending to the throne of his Father as the new Adam— could He be declared the hope of all Creation and, for now— especially so, for those who believe.

And yet, even in the writings that followed, apart from confidence in Jesus’ love for all, the riddles of Scripture remain (present tense) deadlocked– not in a fight for the Bible, or for its witness to the Living Word— but for the interpretation of its inspired written words.

Seems to me…

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514 Responses to “Seems to me”

  1. SFDBWV says:

    “Seems to me”…

    If only others could allow us to have the freedom to “seem” to ourselves there would be a lot less dissention within we believers.

    As it becomes just what is it that we believe?

    As long as it agrees with what another believes there is no problem, but that is not the way of things with people.

    And certainly not the people in Jerusalem who considered themselves to be expert at interpreting the Scriptures. As it were such men who demanded Jesus’ death for what Jesus said of Himself.

    Seems to me there are still such people who consider themselves to be expert in interpreting the “New” Scriptures along with the “Old” and their attitude is pretty much the same as those who demanded Jesus be silenced.

    Either we agree with them or are considered false teachers or heretics or whatever Biblical sounding adjective attached to those who don’t quite align with their interpretation of our faith. Demanding agreement.

    So what do we do outwardly? Listen politely? Or demand they be silenced? While inwardly allowing the Holy Spirit to discern what is truth and what is not for ourselves?


  2. bubbles says:

    And the more life I live, the more I do not understand. I am more frustrated and confused now than I have ever been. Nothing makes sense any longer.

  3. SFDBWV says:

    Dear friend Bubbles do not dismay, many a believer is where you are. They just don’t admit it.

    I have been deeply blessed in that across my life God has given me encouragements well before I needed them, so that when darker circumstances came I could remember them.

    Even still when I am seemingly confused or discouraged, I am reminded to look back to a time when God showed up and provided just exactly what was needed at just the right time for me.

    I know what I have said will not make you feel better, I just want you to know someone is listening and cares.


  4. foreverblessed says:

    What do we do: listen silently or demand they be silenced?

    One time I walked together with a Roman Catholic lady, after the oecumene prayer, she was talking, and said:
    “Only when you protestants see the bread and wine the same as we do, can we keep the eucharist together. (The Bread and wine)

    Now, my own natural inclination would be:
    Directly contradict what she said.
    But …
    I heard the Holy Spirit whisper in my mind:
    “Be patient with those that have holy cows, just as I have been patient with you”.

    I was so taken by surprise: hearing the Holy Spirit talk to me in this way.
    ( That’s living under the New Covenant, being led personally by God, by direct contact, and not by a set of rules. Not only being lead, but God also giving us the strength to do it)

    But…. The Holt Spirit have me a choice: I could have chosen my own way.
    But this time, the message was so clear. And the patience that God had to have with me, that struck me.

    My holy cow was the 7th day Sabbath.
    Holy cow, we have the dutch saying: Holy houses.

  5. Hugger4U says:

    There were times when Christ spoke the Word/Truth and times he was silent when he walked the earth in his human form before the cross. We pray for wisdom and listen for the Holy Spirit’s guidance in how to minister His grace, love, truth and sometimes silence as we walk beside our fellow man as Forever has experienced.

    Bubbles, praying for you to draw closer to the Lord and to know him as your friend and brother. He is tenderhearted to the brokenhearted and will not stretch you beyond what you can bear for now. The unjust evil that happens in these last days will be answered soon. We must keep our eyes on Jesus the author and finisher of our faith.

    By the way, have you ever noticed how Jesus, Paul and Peter and others took the Word out of context? LOL We are so limited in our understanding and in turn try to keep God in our boxes. His Word is unlimited, multifaceted and multilayered. I love digging into the word for the treasures He has for us just at the right moment we need them. We need to stay open to whatever the Holy Spirit is saying, even if it goes against what you might have been taught. Just go to His Word and remain teachable.

    Love to all,

  6. Hugger4U says:

    Bubbles, when you have time listen to “Redeemer” by Nicole C. Mullens on YouTube. It blesses me I pray it will minister to you.


  7. bubbles says:

    Thank you, Hugger and Steve. I will find that video. God is ALWAYS good, no matter what happens. He does not need to explain Himself to anyone and I know that. I have got to get over this and I am sorry. I love the Lord Jesus and I know He knows the best for all. We need to trust Him always, and understanding does not need to take place ever to trust Him. Understanding can wait; obedience cannot.

  8. street says:

    Until the end of his public life, He read the Scriptures like a mystery that would only be solved in a way that even his own disciples could not accept.

    living Word of Trust in His Father, hope in what could not be seen, and Loving that which is so foreign to the world. The Man. resting at the Right hand of God.

    thinking about when fear and disobedience gives way to trust hope and love. death/darkness gives way to Life/Light.

    to be called, to go, to be sanctified, to be Glorified. to follow the pioneer of our faith. the One Who has first place in all things. for all things come from Him. To Him be all Glory Honor Praise and Thanksgiving. For the Kingdom the Power and the Glory are Yours Father Son and Holy Spirit now and forever. amen

  9. Beloved says:

    Agreeing on interpretation will not happen on this side of eternity.

  10. Beloved says:

    8Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be restrained; where there is knowledge, it will be dismissed. 9For we know in part and we prophesy in part, 10but when the perfect comes, the partial passes away.

    11When I was a child, I talked like a child, I thought like a child, I reasoned like a child. When I became a man, I set aside childish ways. 12Now we see but a dim reflection as in a mirror; then we shall see face to face. Now I know in part; then I shall know fully, even as I am fully known.

    13And now these three remain: faith, hope, and love; but the greatest of these is love.

  11. Beloved says:

    Understanding and trust was brought up.

    I was reading about David bringing the Ark back after Saul died- how happy and joyful he was until God got angry at Uzziah for touching the Ark (trying to keep it from falling) and God killed him! Then David got angry at God and the partying was over.

    Understanding God is so hard I think. A roller coaster of emotions it seems to me. Does God blame us for misunderstanding Him? I don’t think so. His grace covers all every sin emotion disloyalty if we are held in place with Jesus’ bloody nails. Fixed and promised because God cannot lie. Bless His Holy name, Amen

  12. foreverblessed says:

    “Understanding is something that can wait”.
    Like the disciples, they could not understand the need of the Cross. Impossible for them.
    How deeply deserted they must have felt, when Jesus had died, and was in the tomb.
    Their envisioned King was dead. And had died a cruel death.
    God did not intervene. He left Him hanging on the Cross.
    Days of darkness and gloominess.

    We know it was only three days, we know Jesus was raised the third day.
    A glorious moment in in the garden around the tomb.

  13. bubbles says:

    But, I think we must be careful because if we think we need to understand God, we are not truly trusting Him. When we get to Heaven, all of this that happened here, will we even care why? I lost my mother when I was 8 years old; she was young. My life was permanently altered when she died. For a long time I wanted to die too. I didn’t want to go home after school because she wasn’t there. She died in autumn, so it was getting dark early and the sky had that nasty lead color and the sick light. It was a bad time of year for it to happen. All of the trees were bare.

    I no longer need to know why she died. I wouldn’t have ever chosen that, but God knows best. Every milestone in my life I have lived without her, mourning her, mourning the what could have beens, missing knowing her as an adult. I am thankful for the memories and time we had together.

    I think needing to know is human nature. However, it also bespeaks of lack of trust and God cannot be pleased with that. He doesn’t need to explain anything to us. We are only clay in His hands.

  14. Beloved says:

    Jesus the Great High Priest
    14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest(A) who has ascended into heaven,[a](B) Jesus the Son of God,(C) let us hold firmly to the faith we profess.(D) 15 For we do not have a high priest(E) who is unable to empathize with our weaknesses, but we have one who has been tempted in every way, just as we are(F)—yet he did not sin.(G) 16 Let us then approach(H) God’s throne of grace with confidence,(I) so that we may receive mercy and find grace to help us in our time of need.

    So comforting to me.

  15. street says:

    I think needing to know is human nature. However, it also bespeaks of lack of trust and God cannot be pleased with that. He doesn’t need to explain anything to us. We are only clay in His hands.

    yes we are made out of the dust of the earth. yet if I remember right God Breathed His Spirit into Adam creating a visible image of Himself. I hear you bubbles and have been thinking along these lines too, but God bids us to come to Him in Christ to ask. waiting remembering and recalling what He said and what He promised. Abraham believed God even though he was as good as dead and still believed that God could do what He had promised. in Romans we are told the Holy Spirit goes before us when we do not even know what we should be asking. interceding on our behalf. may God bless you and the rest of us and sustain us in Christ Jesus.

    Oswald Chambers speaks of a connection between understanding and obedience. Paul spoke of an abundance of grace and mercy he received in all his short comings.

    God is Good.

    His mercy is new every morning. may the Light of the world be exalted over all creation and guide us in the path of Righteousness for His Glory.

  16. SFDBWV says:

    A few days ago when reading something in the newspaper I chanced across a word that captured my feelings exactly along my thoughts at the time.

    The word was “freefall”. The author of the article I was reading had said that the whole world is in a “freefall”.

    That is exactly how I see things going on in the world of politics, economics, and culture. In the attitude of people toward each other, this demonic social media, the manipulation of news and disinformation.

    History being rewritten to a twisted new socially acceptable position.

    Our faith under attack on all fronts. Our way of life under attack on all fronts.

    Yes freefall is exactly how I see the condition of the whole world, not just this country.

    When I read the answer Jesus gives the disciples as to what are the “signs” of His return (the end of the age), what I see is the world in a freefall toward disaster.

    Foreverblessed mentioned hearing the voice of God clearly in her head during a conversation she was having. I too have heard His voice several times across my life and one of such times was during a time of being tested.

    He simply said, “Stand fast”. I instantly understood He was instructing me to hold on to what I know, trust Him for the things I don’t know and stand fast in faith and endurance.

    Not to over-react and step ahead of Him. Rather to stand fast be still and watch as God makes a way.

    Yes I see the world in a free fall toward disaster, but I also know God has provided a safety net in His Son and promised, “For God has not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ.”

    Seems to me the events of the world are a testing of the waters by the spirit of the anti-christ in a forerunner to the real event on the horizon.


  17. poohpity says:

    It seems to me:

    Rather than just reading what is written in the bible and sharing that living word with people they instead take it out of context then lean on their understanding or interpretation to form their own intent and apply it in a way it is not meant to be applied.

    It seems there are many passages that are riddles not meant to be understood but people make assumptions, or jump to conclusions or lead people to think it says something other than what it says especially when one has not read it within the whole. More often than not the bible interprets itself by finding meaning of the same idea in another part of scripture but most bibles have already cross-referenced those.

    But it seems to be nothing new people take even a news story and adjust it to fit their own biases in an effort to sway those who listen to them to their way of thinking rather than presenting the facts and letting people make an informed decision on their own.

    It does seem God will help us learn what He wants us to learn but it is not just for special people it is for all those who come to him humbly asking, seeking and knocking to know what He wants us to know and then gives us the power to act on what He teaches us. To know what the bible says is one thing but to practice and act on what we learn from it is another thing.

  18. poohpity says:

    It is similar to reading the topics that Mart writes or any writer for that matter. Some have a tendency to not read the article as a whole but take even parts of a sentence or a paragraph out to go down a whole new path devoid of the meaning of the article.

    In school we learned that there is a science to being a writer. First the headline to draw your curiosity then the first paragraph tells the reader what the story will be about then the next two or three paragraphs are the body of information on that story then the last paragraph is the conclusion that was reached. If one takes out any part of that then one will tend to lose the meaning of the story in the first place.

  19. poohpity says:

    Seems to me; that the whole bible is about letting us know there is a God and that He wants a relationship with His creation and one day people will turn from going it on their own and turn to God. So I read it with the intent of trying to get to know the God who loves me enough to pursue me or everyone throughout my/our life or time as it were, as He does others and to provide a way to do so for eternity.

  20. Hugger4U says:

    So, last night I was reading out loud in Job 38 where the Lord speaks. As I was turning out the lights and snuggling under the covers I said, ‘Lord, I guess I know where I get my sarcasm from!’ We laughed and laughed!!!

    I love the Father!

    In His love,

  21. poohpity says:

    Hugger, loved your comment!

  22. Beloved says:


    This is a wonderful story some of you may have heard about God telling a man to go look for a lost child in Texas.

  23. Beloved says:

    the use of irony to mock or convey contempt.
    “his voice, hardened by sarcasm, could not hide his resentment”

  24. Beloved says:

    Hugger I remember having the same reaction to something Jesus said in the gospels a few years ago now.

  25. Hugger4U says:

    The Lord has a great sense of humor and more than willing to laugh with us.

    I remember another time earlier this spring/summer I was on a road trip, just me and Jesus. I was coming off a mountain and not much traffic late in the afternoon talking away with the Lord when all of a sudden I had a thought, ‘what if I’m just talking to myself?’ Then right away I said “Thank you Lord for ‘knowing’ I’m not talking to myself!” Then we had a good laugh!!! I knew where that thought came from so nipped it in the bud.
    2 Corinthians 10:4-7. The KNOWING comes from knowing the Lord and His voice. He doesn’t speak doubt into you. He speaks Love, Faith, Truth etc. some correction but usually He corrects you by showing you your heart and what is really in there by working circumstances into a lesson. I’ll share about that another time. Thanks for commenting.

    In His Love,

  26. SFDBWV says:

    Many years ago while watching Family Feud with Richard Dawson as the host, in his usual sarcastic wit he insulted a woman who stood her ground and said back to him, “You sure like to make people feel stupid.”

    She wasn’t laughing and he didn’t apologize.

    We all possess the nature to be sarcastic, but when it is at the expense of another, do we listen to that still small voice that says to us to hold our tongue or do we push ahead and do so anyway?

    I have to believe that we all have heard the voice of God in our walk with Him. As “Hugger” has stated sometimes it is a still small voice, sometimes a shout and sometimes it is just a “knowing” that is cemented into our hearts.

    Very simply the same goes here on BTA. Sometimes it is best to respond sometimes it is best to just say nothing.

    In line with our subject I am reminded of a Bible I have in my little library that my first wife had gotten for me as a gift many years ago.

    It is a Bible that has four different Bibles represented. So that as you read each page of Scripture you get four different interpretations of each written word.

    It really made me appreciate the good old King James Bible. Though I do like the “Living Bible” and my New American Bible for Catholics for study, I prefer the good old King James to just read.

    Some of these new interpretations are just upsetting as they try to change what was written in an attempt to modernize it and make it more culturally acceptable.

    All of which makes me more appreciate God telling me to “Stand fast”, to hold on to what I know and trust Him for what I don’t, to not be anxious, but rather to just be patient and wait on Him.

    So to all of you who want to debate every word of God in an argumentative mood with everyone else, I say have at it, just don’t expect me to join in.


  27. poohpity says:

    The honesty that Viv brought to the blog was admitting she does not read the bible nor did she act or lead people to believe she had. Very refreshing to say the least.

    The only bible that I have read that changed what is says is the “New World Translation” published in 1953 by the Jehovah witnesses.

    Seems to me that no matter what translation one chooses as long as they read it with the guidance of the Holy Spirit is what really matters then usually there is not much to argue about but a lot to share together and discuss. Each time one reads the bible there will be something new to learn that one may not have even seen before but it was always there. It seems to be a process in spiritual growth and being awakened with a willingness to learn something new but unless someone desires to keep on learning it is a moot point.

  28. Hugger4U says:

    Mart’s last paragraph, I would like to talk about that.

    I have a history with the Lord. I’m 69 years old and gave my life to Him when I was 28. What a ride!!! So many mountain, valley, desert, and wilderness experiences and it isn’t over yet. :)

    Truth is revealed as the Lord judges when we need it. He’s always interested in our hearts responses and yearnings. I married, had kids, raised them and now am alone. I have plenty of time now, with less distractions from the world. I have never felt closer to my Lord than I do today. He has revealed more of His Word to me in ways I am simply amazed at Him! The riddles melt away more and more. The Word is rich and alive! I hear the Word preached through my pastor and go home to study more because I just knew there was more the Lord wanted to reveal to me and sure enough many times I would get a whole different sermon out of the passages that was preached. The Lord just directed me to go deeper. I always seek Him and His wisdom when studying. This is how we grow up into the Head which is Christ, over the church. Mature. We are designed, once we are born again, to grow and mature and in turn teach others His ways. We were commanded to go and disciple nations. That is our mandate from God. Bless his Holy Name.

    In His Love,

  29. Beloved says:

    Same here Hugger. After you posted those scriptures yesterday I had to “dig deeper” and discovered things about Paul I didn’t know before when I took them at face value. I love digging it’s my passion to understanding the mind of God. Sometimes reading different translation helps me. So many nuances. Just like the Holy Spirit.

  30. Beloved says:

    An excerpt from Spurgeons Morning and Evening devotional

    October 12 Morning
    “I will meditate in thy precepts.”

    Psalm 119:15

    “There are times when solitude is better than society, and silence is wiser than speech. We should be better Christians if we were more alone, waiting upon God, and gathering through meditation on his Word spiritual strength for labour in his service. We ought to muse upon the things of God, because we thus get the real nutriment out of them. Truth is something like the cluster of the vine: if we would have wine from it, we must bruise it; we must press and squeeze it many times. The bruiser’s feet must come down joyfully upon the bunches, or else the juice will not flow; and they must well tread the grapes, or else much of the precious liquid will be wasted. So we must, by meditation, tread the clusters of truth, if we would get the wine of consolation therefrom.”

  31. foreverblessed says:

    Steve, I did find your picture!

    Mayor Durst speaks to Army Corps about recent flood in Bayard, West Virginia.

    That is really good to see a face. Very boyish! At first I thought it was the huge man on the right, but you must be the man in the middle.

    It is a small town, only 126 households, in 2010, 141 households in 2000. So how many are there now?

    Thank you so much for sharing your story, Hugger!

    That you feel closer than ever with Jesus.

    Now that you are old, and alone, but….Jesus is very close to you.

    This is so beautiful!

    That is what I am looking for: having a close relation with Jesus. In the devotion Beloved gave, about Psalm 119:15, that is does not come by itself, that we have to put effort into it, meditating on Gods Word, sitting silently before Him, and waiting for Him, having our eyes fixed in faith on Jesus. That is an unexpected comparison: squeezing the grapes to juice- to meditating on God’s Word.

    A few days ago I shared the bible passage of Ecclesiastes 12:1-7

    The preacher is urging his readers to learn to know God intimately when we are young, before the days are coming that are difficult.
    That bible verse made a deep impression on me, when I was young. But I didn’t know how to do that. God was patient with me, He waited till I was “meek and poor in spirit”

  32. foreverblessed says:

    Eccl 12:4

    And the doors shall be shut in the streets, when the sound of the grinding is low, and he shall rise up at the voice of the bird, and all the daughters of music shall be brought low;

    Rev 18:22

    And the sound of harpists and musicians, of flute players and trumpeters, will never ring out in you again. Nor will any craftsmen of any trade be found in you again, nor the sound of a millstone be heard in you again.

    Know God before the difficult times have come, before your days are old, and you cannot go out of the house, “the doors are locked” the grinders are low

    But this is also compared to the situation in the world: in Revelation 18, the fall of Babylon, the world has come to a “free fall”, society has come to a the economy is stopped, no more mills working.

    But the relation with Jesus is as close as ever,
    He is King of kings and Lord of lords, but also the Lamb who opens the seals, the Lamb that was slain for the saving of the world.

    God does not punish the world in anger, He wants to draw them to Himself, in love, He provided the Lamb, because He loved the world so much.

  33. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed I am glad you were able to find me. Our flood control levee has been inspected by the Army Corps of Engineers annually since it was built in 1962 and it has been my responsibility since I was elected Mayor in 1972 to see that it passes inspection.

    I am not sure when the pictures were taken, only that it must have been members of the Corps team and certainly within the past few years.

    Yes I still don’t look my age at all. I still have a full head of blond hair no gray except if I let my whiskers grow. Even they are a combination of colors.

    During our last boom of population in the 60’s through the 90’s we had a population of about 600 people, that is way down now to somewhere around 250 or so. It is all about economics.

    We were a coal mining community and the mines are now gone from here forever. Economically our future looks somewhat grim. However God still provides and He will continue to provide a future for our little community until it is His pleasure to make all things new again.


  34. SFDBWV says:

    Matt is having a difficult morning and so that sets his and my time lines back somewhat. I still have a busy day ahead, but somehow the things needed done will get done.

    For the next few minutes I have to wait on him, so I will write my thoughts on our subject.

    I still and will forever believe that God is never blindsided or surprised by anything. And so because I believe that I also do not believe that Jesus was surprised when He was not recognized as Messiah by the religious experts there in Jerusalem.

    I have read and heard it said that Jesus spoke in parables (riddles) after He was rejected by the religious leaders, because of their blindness in recognizing Him.

    Maybe so, but it seems to me He used the riddles or parables as a way of explaining things in simple terms to simple people.

    Knowing all the time that He would be called to answer for blasphemy by the religious leaders and crucified on the cross just exactly as it happened.

    Psalm 22 is considered by me a description of Christ on the cross and I believe He uttered the opening of it so that those around the cross would understand what was happening. Still quoting Scripture while in the throngs of misery and pain.

    No riddle there, a clear explanation of the Messiah being the sacrificial Lamb, not the triumphant warrior that the leaders of Israel wanted.


  35. Beloved says:

    Good morning Steve, good evening Forever. I have nothing to add here but praying Matt’s day will go better.

  36. saled says:

    Freefall . Steve said, “our faith under attack on all fronts. Our way of life under attack on all fronts.” I feel this also and I mourn for the sense of security and hope for the future that our country once offered. But it seems to me that some of the changes may be needed, part of the old world passing away and all things becoming new.

    One example in my own life: our concept of the ownership of land. I live in far eastern Maine, very close to the Atlantic Ocean and also the border with Canada. This land was originally occupied by Wabanaki Indian tribes. From about 1965 to 1980, while I was becoming an adult, the ownership of this area was under question due to a challenge from the tribes that they actually owned around a million acres.

    I now have a deed to more than a hundred acres of woodland that belonged to my father. With the help of an older man in town, he bought it after coming back from doing his part in WW II. He made a living for his family, wife and 4 children, by cutting firewood and pulpwood from this land and other places that he leased or bought. The wood business in Maine was a lot like the coal business in Steve’s West Virginia. You can imagine my families reaction to the claims of the tribes. How could they say that they owned our land, bought and paid for?

    One of the properties that border ours is 25 acres that used to be an old farmstead. Seven years ago that property was bought by an individual who used it to provide bear hunting opportunities for a big fee. There is an old cabin on the property and before the first bear hunt took place, a squatter moved in, a single man with two children. He was a cousin to the owner, but did not have permission to live there. I’m not sure of the deal that was worked out, but he and the children were allowed to live there until recently.

    One method of bear hunting still allowed in Maine is called bear baiting. A barrel full of old candy, cakes, or something else is used to attract the bear to an area where a tree stand has been hidden. The bear makes a habit of coming to the barrel and hunters who pay lots of money sit in the tree stand and shoot the bear. I hate bear baiting. When my husband and I met this neighbor, he assured us that he did too and had nothing to do with it. Over the last seven years he improved the cabin, made gardens, mowed and created an almost comfortable place for himself and the kids.

    Just about a year ago, we noticed new ATV tracks running through a field in our woods and started looking around. About 500 feet on our side of the property line we found a bear baiting station. We were furious, and my husband cut many trees across the ATV trail leading to it. When we confronted the neighbor, he still claimed to have nothing to do with it and said it was his cousin’s business.

    So last June the cousin put the property up for sale and served eviction papers. This man and his children, upper teens now, have no home, no place to go. It seems that the only bear baiting station they had was on my land. Without that, the hunting business doesn’t work. It seems also that our squatting neighbor was actually being allowed to live there to tend the baiting station.

    I got the land from my father. But I know a little of the story of this neighbor: He lost his father to a commercial fishing accident when he was a young boy. His mother remarried, had more children, and he was basically forgotten. He has some connection to the tribes but was one of those deemed not to have a large enough percentage of native blood to come under their protection.

    So here am I, with all this woodland because my father lived and worked and passed it on to me. And there is he, homeless now. When we found the baiting station, if we had known our anger would result in this loss of a home, we would have handled it differently. My husband is chairman of the board of assessors in our small town, and in the six years that he has held this position, we have both gotten a real education. Like I said in the beginning, I mourn for the sense of security and hope for the future that living in the US used to provide. And I want to be able to pass this land on to my children in the near future. But now there is something just sickening about the whole idea of land ownership. A wrong that will be righted when all things become new.

  37. Beloved says:

    Saled after reading your story about your land I looked at Spurgeon today 13th (Morning). I’m a bit late but my daughter came over on her lunch break then ran some errands so am settled in now. I usually sleep until 10-10:30 which is so late for many folks but I need 10-11 hours of sleep a night to be able to move the next day.

    So here is what I read: 2Corinthians 7: 10For godly sorrow produces repentance leading to salvation, not to be regretted; but the sorrow of the world produces death. Isn’t that the truth!

    I’m sorry you’re having these problems. Not sure why anybody would want to live in the woods with bears 🙀

  38. Beloved says:

    I’ve watched Northwoods Law a few times. It’s so beautiful up there in the NE! Have you seen or been on the show Saled?

  39. Hugger4U says:

    I would like to comment on your post Saled.

    Here is what the Lord taught me recently. When we choose to believe and accept Jesus’ sacrifice for our sins and he redeems us, we belong to Him. We give up our rights to ourselves and everything we own, because everything we own came from Him to begin with. Freely He gave and freely we give. We have become stewards of what He has given us. We ask for wisdom to steward what is now entrusted to us. That doesn’t mean that you give up everything to anyone that wants what you have but that we steward it for Him. It is up to you and the Lord to work that out. He’s our King and will direct you in all wisdom. Praise the Lord and Amen.

    In His Love,

  40. bubbles says:

    Caution needs to be taken so that what we hope and want in our deepest soul is not imposed on our interpretation of Scripture. Jesus spoke in parables, yes. God’s Word is not of private interpretation. No matter what we wish or hope to be so doesn’t make it so if it is not what He has said. His thoughts and ways are higher than our thoughts and ways. He is always good and we cannot understand His good sometimes. He is in control when we do not see it or feel it. Nothing makes sense. I don’t need to understand or make sense of it to trust Him. I am weary of life.

    Right now I don’t feel it. I don’t see how any of this can work out for good, but faith knows and it doesn’t not rely on emotion. One day our faith will become sight. I long for that day; may it be tonight. God has the last word, not his creation.

    Please, would you pray with me today? Since I have lost my best friend who prayed for and with me, I need someone to partner with me in prayer. I need the Lord to go before me. I have no advocate and I need Him with me to protect and give wisdom Thursday afternoon. Thank you.

  41. Hugger4U says:


    I’m sad with you about losing your friend that prayed with you.

    I pray the Lord will speak to you about His advocate, the Holy Spirit, that He gave to you the day you said ‘yes’ to Jesus’ sacrifice and redemption for your sins. The Holy Spirit prays for you when you don’t know how are just too overcome to know what to pray. Jesus is also interceding for you in Heaven with the Father.

    May the Holy Spirit comfort you in these hard, lonely times and give you peace and wisdom for the time ahead as you go forward, looking to a new season with the Lord. He loves you so much! I’m asking the Father to provide for your need in His timing. That you will learn the Joy of the Lord is your strength even through the storms of life. Praise to Jesus, All glory and thanks to God. Amen

    In His Love,

  42. bubbles says:

    When I said advocate, I was speaking of another human to be with me in person.

  43. foreverblessed says:

    Bubbles, I pray for you.
    That God will have Mercy on you, and send you someone to help.

    And Saled, what a story!
    I pray you keep the simple trust in Jesus, in difficult matters.
    That is not easy, but there is no other way than looking up to Jesus.

    Lately I had been thinking of the way I thought about my country. I felt safe. But was that real? When I read the Utmost on the summer, on July 30.
    I had to think about it, didn’t I not have wrong illusions abouty country. Just as you had about yours? The only safe place is in faith in Jesus Christ.

    Abraham said he was a sojourner, looking for another country, a heavenly one.
    Hebrews 11:13-16

  44. foreverblessed says:

    Hebrews 11:13-18

    13 All these people were still living by faith when they died. They did not receive the things promised; they only saw them and welcomed them from a distance, admitting that they were foreigners and strangers on earth. 14 People who say such things show that they are looking for a country of their own. 15 If they had been thinking of the country they had left, they would have had opportunity to return. 16 Instead, they were longing for a better country—a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared a city for them.

    John 17:11,13-19
    11 I will remain in the world no longer, but they are still in the world, and I am coming to you. Holy Father, protect them by the power of your name, the name you gave me, so that they may be one as we are one.
    13 “I am coming to you now, but I say these things while I am still in the world, so that they may have the full measure of my joy within them. 14 I have given them your word and the world has hated them, for they are not of the world any more than I am of the world.

    15 My prayer is not that you take them out of the world but that you protect them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of it. 17 Sanctify them by[a] the truth; your word is truth. 18 As you sent me into the world, I have sent them into the world. 19 For them I sanctify myself, that they too may be truly sanctified.
    [a] v17 or live in them according to the truth

  45. Hugger4U says:

    Praying for you Bubbles.

    Ask the Lord what you are to learn from hardships. He is always approachable because of Jesus’ obedience going to the cross. He is very near, not far way. He wants you to draw close to reveal Himself to you.

    Love and blessings!!

  46. Beloved says:

    bubbles says:
    October 14, 2021 at 5:41 am
    When I said advocate, I was speaking of another human to be with me in person.

    Beautiful Bubbles I remember when I used to think that if someone-an advocate for me- was not praying for me that God would not hear me. But I learned that I could go directly to God myself. When you pray-In Jesus Name- you have the only advocate you need.

    A prayer partner is supportive and comforting like having a parent but not necessary. We have everything we need in Jesus if we know Him. His blood is enough! Praise Father, Son, and Holy Spirit! Amen

  47. Beloved says:

    Father I pray you will give Bubbles wisdom today and may she rest and trust in you with the peace that comes from it through Jesus Christ our LORD, amen.

  48. Beloved says:

    Bubbles I don’t think I really understand why you need an advocate to day but if it is work related or personal I ask God to provide. In Jesus name, Amen.

  49. Beloved says:

    And just reading Spurgeon I am encouraged and I pray all of you are also!

    October 14 Morning
    “I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord.”

    Philippians 3:8

    Spiritual knowledge of Christ will be a personal knowledge. I cannot know Jesus through another person’s acquaintance with him. No, I must know him myself; I must know him on my own account. It will be an intelligent knowledge—I must know him, not as the visionary dreams of him, but as the Word reveals him. I must know his natures, divine and human. I must know his offices—his attributes—his works—his shame—his glory. I must meditate upon him until I “comprehend with all saints what is the breadth, and length, and depth, and height; and know the love of Christ, which passeth knowledge.” It will be an affectionate knowledge of him; indeed, if I know him at all, I must love him. An ounce of heart knowledge is worth a ton of head learning. Our knowledge of him will be a satisfying knowledge. When I know my Saviour, my mind will be full to the brim—I shall feel that I have that which my spirit panted after. “This is that bread whereof if a man eat he shall never hunger.” At the same time it will be an exciting knowledge; the more I know of my Beloved, the more I shall want to know. The higher I climb the loftier will be the summits which invite my eager footsteps. I shall want the more as I get the more. Like the miser’s treasure, my gold will make me covet more. To conclude; this knowledge of Christ Jesus will be a most happy one; in fact, so elevating, that sometimes it will completely bear me up above all trials, and doubts, and sorrows; and it will, while I enjoy it, make me something more than “Man that is born of woman, who is of few days, and full of trouble”; for it will fling about me the immortality of the ever living Saviour, and gird me with the golden girdle of his eternal joy. Come, my soul, sit at Jesus’s feet and learn of him all this day.

  50. Beloved says:

    Forever Hebrews 11 is one of my favorite passages. It has brought comfort to me many many times! Sojourners, looking for our Better Country for eternity! Forevermore and forever blessed! Oh these light and momentary afflictions shall not get me down!! Thank you Jesus!

  51. Beloved says:

    Dear street,
    I was thinking today about the vastness of Jesus redemption in covering ALL my sins, mind boggling! I was made aware, by His grace, of a former sin the enemy was having a field day with in torturing me for many years now. I faced it (which was so hard to do) and repented receiving grace more than I deserve. In a last ditch effort the enemy reminded me how I had broken the Levitical law. That kind of shook me up again until I recalled how Paul trusted Jesus completely for forgiveness and salvation. That said I repeated as I have often “Jesus have mercy on me a sinner”. With thanksgiving and praise I’m free! Yesterday today and forever, Amen

    A former Cannanite

  52. bubbles says:

    I did pray myself. It is comforting to be able to talk with a friend, a person with skin. It’s comforting to pray TOGETHER for something or about something. I am lonely without my dear friend and praying together over things.

    Things did not go well today, as I had hoped. Just another disappointment and another hurt in life. Like I said, I am weary of this life.

    Thank you all for praying. I appreciate it.

  53. saled says:

    Thank you Hugger for the reminder: “He is King and will direct us in all wisdom.” Life seems so complicated now, and wisdom hard to find. Pray for me, that I will find His wisdom.

    Beloved, I have never watched Northwoods Law, but one of my daughter’s high school friends is married to a Warden who has been on the show. Our bear hunting incident should have been called in to the wardens, but we wanted to give them a chance to make it right without involving the law. Bears, by the way, are not all that frequent visitors here, unless they are baited. In my entire life, I have seen bear here on just 5 or 6 different occasions.

    Yes, Foreverblessed, the only safe place is in Jesus Christ. Your comment reminds me of the time, 30 or so years ago, when my husband and I, along with our children, were on vacation, and I was homesick. Even as an adult, I prefer to be home. I was awake late at night, listening to a Bible program on the radio, and the speaker talked about Jesus words, “Abide in me.” The speaker went on to say that meant ‘feel at home in me.” And all this time later, I am trying to find that, that sense of feeling at home in Jesus.

    And Bubbles, how I hope this afternoon worked out for you. I am weary of this world also, and how complicated it is to navigate. I love your words of hope: “One day our faith will become sight. I long for that day; may it be tonight. God has the last word, not his creation.”

    On the subject of abiding, of feeling at home: my 100 year old aunt was buried today, beside her husband who died about 15 years ago, and beside her daughter who died just six weeks ago. My cousin Peggy is left by herself, and at the death of both her sister and mother, her words to them were, “See you at the house.” What comfort in that hope! John 14:3 “And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again, and receive you to Myself; that where I am, there you may be also.

  54. Beloved says:

    Abide in Me
    Reminded of Jesus telling his disciples to “let the little children come to Me.” I think of a child completely trusting and resting in a parent that all around them is ultimately being taken care of one way or another. We have a spiritual Father if we have trusted and rested in Christ. It’s a daily thing not a one-time event.

    Bubbles I’m guessing today went as God planned. His ways are not our ways, as I know you know. But He is always good. It’s good to have Jesus with skin on sometimes. I remember feeling the same way but found out God was stretching me to learn to walk by faith not sight. There are actually very few believers but many church attenders. May you be strengthened in the power of His might. Thank you Jesus for a seeker of Truth. Be glorified, Amen

  55. foreverblessed says:

    About loneliness:
    Jesus knows that too:

    You will leave me all alone John 16:32

    Look to my right and see, no-one is concerned for me.
    I have no refuge,
    no-one cares for my life Psalm 142:4

  56. foreverblessed says:

    October 14 Morning Spurgeon
    “I count all things but loss for the excellency of the knowledge of Christ Jesus my Lord.”

    Philippians 3:8
    I read it several times:
    Knowing Jesus, His glorified state, His human side.

    Knowing more of Him will lift me up from this low feeling:
    make me something more than “Man that is born of woman, who is of few days, and full of trouble”

    No, we are children of the Most High,
    But… In a world that is not our own.
    As a child, I was always looking for Jesus to come back,
    But Jesus did not come back.

    Then I pursued the fullness of life that Jesus promised,
    “That they might have life, and life to the full”
    Jesus’ Words.

    How can I have that full life in a fallen world?

    It is Christ IN you, the hope of glory
    Col 1:27

    He is in us now, whether I feel it or not….
    Faith…to believe in Jesus.

    When it is hard, and life pressing on all sides, then Jesus comes along, and shows how much He has suffered,
    Many Psalms talk about His suffering as a human here on earth.

  57. poohpity says:

    Don’t be only hearers of the word but be doers of the word.

    If one wants to be loved, then BE love to others.

    If one wants to have a close friend, then BE a close friend to others.

    If you give do not give EXPECTING anything in return but give because it is the right thing to do. (Luke 6:38)

    Only Jesus knows our deepest needs and only He can satisfy them, don’t EXPECT other people to satisfy those needs or we will find ourselves disappointed, dejected, discontent and discouraged. (Gal 1:10)

    Love others as you want to be loved and you will find a reward in heaven even if that love is never returned because living a Christ-shaped life we do things for the sake of who we are in Christ and for His Glory not our own.

  58. Hugger4U says:

    More on Mart’s last paragraph about riddles.

    The Word is veiled to those who are perishing. Only faith in Jesus lifts the veil. Then once the veil is lifted the Lord will reveal more of Himself to you depending on how much you seek, pursue, hunger and thirst for more of Him.

    When we seek Him, He lets Himself be found by us. If we just use Him for troubled times don’t expect to understand much. You will not grow and strengthen your faith and stay in a perpetual state of confusion, anxiety and self-pity because of the trials of life in the world. All that is because we continue to need the milk of the Word until we grow up, then He gives us meat, more deeper meaning of the Word. (I capitalize the Word because Jesus IS the Word, the Truth and the Life.)

    That is my experience and if you want scripture references you can dig in the Word and find them yourselves…another way of growing and strengthening your relationship with Christ Jesus! :) He will become your all in all if you pursue, persevere and pray.

    His love endures forever, blessed be the Lord Almighty!

  59. poohpity says:

    It seems that there are times when the Word(Jesus) is used as well as the word as in scripture is used.

  60. Beloved says:

    I was thinking about stepping stones and how I learned to say thank you to God for my troubles disappointments hurts and lately my weaknesses. As hugger said many scriptures to find on the matter, like pearls to be found by opening up the hard shells. Seek and you will find! Count it all Joy! Stepping stones to faith! Sovereign and holy is our great God! Amen

  61. poohpity says:

    I do not mind sharing scripture to understand and make sure that what I say is what scripture teaches for instance:

    Luke 24: Then Jesus said to them, “You foolish people! You find it so hard to believe all that the prophets wrote in the Scriptures. 26 Wasn’t it clearly predicted that the Messiah would have to suffer all these things before entering his glory?” 27 Then Jesus took them through the writings of Moses and all the prophets, explaining from all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.

  62. poohpity says:

    or 2 Tim 3: From infancy you have known the Holy Scriptures, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. 16All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for instruction, for conviction, for correction, and for training in righteousness, 17so that the man of God may be complete, fully equipped for every good work.…

  63. Beloved says:

    Cry of My Heart

    It is the cry of my heart to follow You
    It is the cry of my heart to be close to You
    It is the cry of my heart to follow all of the days of my life
    Teach me Your holy ways O Lord
    So I can walk in Your truth
    Teach me Your holy ways O lord
    And make me wholy devoted to You
    Open my eyes so I can see
    The wonderful things that You do
    Open my heart up more and more
    And make me wholy devoted to You
    All of the days of my life
    All of the days of my life

  64. poohpity says:

    It seems to me that along with Jesus using the scripture to point to Himself as the answer to the riddles of the OT but also used them to point us towards our need for Him as Savior by showing us inability to live by God’s standards and our need for mercy.(Romans 3:23)

    When the NT was written as a testimony to the life of Christ at that time they did not have it which because of the Resurrection we do have it but it seems wasted if we do not read it. It seems to me also to be mirror into our life which also shows the need we have for a Savior.

    Matt 9: Later, Matthew invited Jesus and his disciples to his home as dinner guests, along with many tax collectors and other disreputable sinners. 11 But when the Pharisees saw this, they asked his disciples, “Why does your teacher eat with such scum?”

    12 When Jesus heard this, he said, “Healthy people don’t need a doctor—sick people do.” 13 Then he added, “Now go and learn the meaning of this Scripture: ‘I want you to show mercy, not offer sacrifices.’ For I have come to call NOT those ‘who think’ they are righteous, but those who know they are sinners.”

  65. Hugger4U says:

    Good morning!

    The Lord wants us to follow Him. While He was on the earth Jesus obeyed and fulfilled everything the Father asked of Him. We are to do the same. The Holy Spirit that was deposited in us tells us all what we need to know when we need to know it to live in obedience to the Lord. That includes everything the Father has said in the Holy Scriptures and every Word that comes out of His mouth, which is ongoing in each believer. His will be done on the earth and in Heaven! They only remain riddles if we don’t need them yet. The Father has set a time for everything under the sun and we just need to trust and obey getting rid of all worldly thoughts and attitudes of the heart. Going from glory to glory. It is not wise to believe that He wouldn’t share all good things with us. He will if we ask with right motives.

    Do we want what Christ wants to give us or something else.

    Chew on that then go to the Lord and ask Him what he has ready to give you for today, then listen. He will tell you, maybe as you are reading His Word or as you are doing a task and all of a sudden you get the meaning of the task or you are talking to a friend and they use a word or phrase that pops out and you go look it up in the Word. Or He may simply say it in your spirit. Or through a song and any number of ways. Eagerly await the answers from the Father with joy and expectation. It might not come right away but it shouldn’t matter when, He’s always on time!

    Again, these are my experiences and I share freely as led by Him.

    In His Love,

  66. poohpity says:

    It would seem that a good question to chew on is are we doing what Jesus has already given us to do in His word little “w”? If we have not acted on that then why would He give us anything else to chew on or to know?

  67. Beloved says:

    Then Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest.

    Burdens of sin, works, judging, idolatry in its many forms, and overthinking come to mind but I’m sure there are more.

  68. foreverblessed says:

    “Again, these are my experiences and I share freely as led by Him.”

    Thank you for sharing!
    Mart has talked about nature, a long time ago, that God also speaks through nature.
    But as you say, in many ways God speaks.

    Follow Me, said Jesus, and in following Him we learn more and more.
    The first step is to “Come to Me”
    So true, Beloved, everything that hinders, everything that is a burden, we can come to Jesus with it.
    The Cross is the great exchange! We give our burden to Him, and He gives us spiritual blessings.

    But….I often do give my burden to Jesus, and the moment I turn around, I take my burden with me again, and share it with a human being.
    It is a disciplinary thing to wait on Jesus, and hear Him speak.
    He does not have my time schedule, but He has eternity.

  69. foreverblessed says:

    The old neighbor next door, the one I have often asked prayers for, he has died. Two days ago.
    God knows, I don’t know. To sit still and be quiet with Jesus.
    But I do grieve about this loss, I had hoped that he would find Christ, I don’t know if he did.
    But God knows.
    Having my eyes fixed on Jesus, that is the only thing. My Utmost talked about the missionary mission:
    It is Jesus, Who has beengiven all power in heaven and earth, He is our goal,

    Matthew 28:16-20
    16 Then the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain where Jesus had told them to go. 17 When they saw him, they worshiped him; but some doubted. 18 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. 19 Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, 20 and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.”

  70. Beloved says:

    Forever I’m sorry for your sadness about your neighbor. Praying for others and not knowing the outcome is mentally exhausting. I was thinking for a few days about heaven and listening to authors of books on the matter. The conclusion was there is so much we don’t know about heaven so faith and trust must take over.

    I recall when my father was dying and I was so desperate to know if he was going to heaven after praying and speaking to him about it for many years. It was confirmed to me by my sister that a woman that had been witnessing for years also who came into their shop weekly with her son, a local pastor (the only friend my dad allowed my mother to have) had led him to Christ and had witnessed a real change come over him shortly before he died. This I found out after an intercessor had asked God to show me if he was saved. Before I got the phone call my dad suddenly showed up in my living room with two huge angels/ beings as if being escorted-no wings lol. it was a different dimension than the one we live in. Their garments were a blueish color dark and dads face was very red like a sunburn and happy and he thanked me for praying and asked me to pray for mom.

    How my dads face looked was confirmed by a man driving by my church whom God told to stop and go in and tell how his brother had died but came back and his face was bright red as if sunburnt.

    I know this sounds weird to some but it’s one of many experiences God has given me. I don’t like to talk about them. Except that both my mother and sister stated they didn’t want to see dad in heaven! In my study of heaven I learned there will be no sin or desire to sin. So if a sinner is changed won’t they be different in heaven? Will we remember the sins of others in heaven? I do not think so.
    Just some thoughts on things hard to understand while we’re in the flesh.
    Thank you Jesus.

  71. foreverblessed says:

    God speaks in many ways!
    I had just been reading what Beloved wrote, and I stood up, walked to my husband, he was sort of hanging in the easy chair, it is late in the evening now, almost midnight.
    He looked up, and his face was very very red!!

    What an awesome story, about your dad, being safe, and what an awesome God we have, talking to me, in a precious way!

  72. Hugger4U says:

    Joyce, praising the Lord for your favored peek at what not many get to experience. I have heard of others as well. Similar experiences and very different ones. I have friends that have been given the opportunity to view spiritual beings and angels. It changes you and opens your spiritual eyes and you never want to go back into worldly thinking or viewing.

    May we all be blessed when sharing with each other. That is my heart and aim. That the Lord and His church (us) will be edified and encourage to keep going forward traveling to our home with Him.

    In His Love,

  73. Beloved says:

    Forever I am moved to hear how God showed up for you! Blessed be His holy name, Amen

  74. Beloved says:


    Turn Your Eyes Upon Jesus
    Song by Helen H. Lemmel

    O soul are you weary and troubled
    No light in the darkness you see
    There’s light for a look at the Savior
    And life more abundant and free

    Turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in his wonderful face
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of his glory and grace

    His word shall not fail you he promised
    Believe him and all will be well
    Then go to a world that is dying
    His perfect salvation to tell

    Turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in his wonderful face
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of his glory and grace

    O soul are you weary and troubled
    No light in the darkness you see
    There’s light for a look at the Savior
    And life more abundant and free

    Turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in his wonderful face
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of his glory and grace

  75. Beloved says:

    Good words Hugger-
    May we all be blessed when sharing with each other. That is my heart and aim. That the Lord and His church (us) will be edified and encourage to keep going forward traveling to our home with Him.
    Thank you

  76. poohpity says:

    “For many of us, much of Scripture is also wrapped in deep mystery. Still, the night before the cross, Jesus promised His followers that He would send the Holy Spirit, He told them “when he, the spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own, he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is to come” (John 16:13)” The Holy Spirit will shed light on the truth–including truths behind the mysteries of the bible.

    “While we are not promised absolute understanding of everything given to us in scripture, we can have confidence that by the Spirit we can comprehend everything necessary for us to follow Jesus. He will guide us into those vital truths.” Bill Crowder ODB

  77. Beloved says:

    So good thanks Pooh for sharing.

  78. Beloved says:

    Capacity and unity

    4There is one body and one Spirit, just as you were called to one hope when you were called; 5one Lord, one faith, one baptism; 6one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. Ephesians

    I listened to Spurgeons sermon The Christ of Patmos and he talked about in the beginning that not all are given to visions but as God determines for His purposes. That we are different but what matters is we are all one in Christ. Capacity does not determine our standing in Christ. Christ determined that on the cross.

    The first time I heard the word “capacity” was an online blogger defending a well known pastors right to own 2 houses because he was founder of a seminary and a huge church with so much responsibility he had need for a getaway 2nd house. Capacity. Well, obviously he’s way out of my league as far as fame and fortune goes but spiritually we are the same at the foot of the cross. To whom much is given much is required. Capacity.

  79. street says:

    And yet, even in the writings that followed, apart from confidence in Jesus’ love for all, the riddles of Scripture remain (present tense) deadlocked– not in a fight for the Bible, or for its witness to the Living Word— but for the interpretation of its inspired written words.

    thinking of a song that asks a question, “is their life after love?” any existence apart from God is no life at all. if we love because He first loved us it would seem we need to know Him first in all things, for all things are from Him. failure to obey/love plunges us back into the darkness till we come to our senses like the wayward son. it is at times when we feel far away that are most difficult, yet He promises to be with us and up hold us. Paul prayed that at those times we would comprehend this love of God that is in Christ Jesus so that it would be in us.

    the song comes from talent show song by Jasmin Alcott. she sings well.

    it would seem we tend to vacillate……yet God is enough.

  80. Beloved says:

    Not only Paul but Jesus prayed and continues to pray for us.
    John 17:20-23
    New International Version
    Jesus Prays for All Believers
    20 “My prayer is not for them alone. I pray also for those who will believe in me through their message, 21 that all of them may be one,(A) Father, just as you are in me and I am in you.(B) May they also be in us so that the world may believe that you have sent me.(C) 22 I have given them the glory that you gave me,(D) that they may be one as we are one(E)— 23 I in them and you in me—so that they may be brought to complete unity. Then the world will know that you sent me(F) and have loved them(G) even as you have loved me.

  81. foreverblessed says:

    dads face was very red like a sunburn and happy and he thanked me for praying and asked me to pray for mom.

    He thanked you for praying for him.
    That is a very encouraging word: he must have been shown that your prayer was the cause for God working in his life.
    I have a story from a woman in my church, she had a nephew who was in drugs, his life was deteriorating.
    But….she prayed for him.
    This young man came was coming to faith, and was freed from his addiction.
    He asked God: “why me, why did you rescue me.”
    And God answered: “Because of the prayers of your aunt”

  82. poohpity says:

    Yes it is encouraging to find that prayers are lifted up on our behalf that our ears, heart and mind will finally hear that calling from the Lord. God has called people to Himself since the beginning of time. God said, “I have called you by name, you are mine.” Usually with hindsight it seems we can see all the times that we were called until we finally answered that call. Jesus has been standing at the door of our hearts knocking until we invite Him in. We have to invite Him in, He does not seem to just come in without us opening the door and asking because He does not force Himself on anyone.

  83. poohpity says:

    Yes I agree with you Beloved at the foot of the Cross we are all on equal ground. None deserving redemption any more than anyone else.

  84. poohpity says:

    Jesus said, “The Spirit alone gives eternal life. Human effort accomplishes nothing. And the very words I have spoken to you are spirit and life. But some of you do not believe me.” (For Jesus knew from the beginning which ones didn’t believe, and he knew who would betray him.) Then he said, “That is why I said that people can’t come to me unless the Father gives them to me.”

  85. Beloved says:

    For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God, but the gift of God is life everlasting!
    May we all walk in love today for Christ’s sake, Amen

  86. Beloved says:

    Forever I remember a promise. “The effectual fervent prayer of a righteous man availeth much”. James

  87. Beloved says:

    From a news source:

    Missionaries Kidnapped
    At least 17 missionaries were kidnapped by Haitian gangs near the country’s capital of Port-au-Prince early Saturday morning, according to reports. Five children were said to be included in the abduction. The group, Ohio-based Christian Aid Ministries, was returning from an orphanage en route to the country’s airport.

  88. Hugger4U says:

    Last paragraph, (still working through) :).

    God’s Word is not deadlocked. It is right there for us all to rightly divide the Word of Truth. Again, the Word is revealed as we need it and it is not meant to be used as a weapon against each other but as a sword of the Spirit to demolishing strongholds and every pretension that sets itself up against Christ in our minds, hearts, spirits, schools, governments, etc. I declare and pray the Word, often out loud in my home, car, neighborhood while walking, into people’s lives or over them from a distance. Today I declared Isaiah 55:6-13. It is a simple thing yet powerful not because I declared but that the Spirit in me led me to declare THE living WORD. Sometimes I know why, sometimes it is hidden until later or maybe not until I get to Heaven will I understand. But His Word never goes back to Him empty but fulfills His purposes and plans, always.

    The Word is Truth…all about Jesus! Praise His Holy Name!!

    In His Love,

  89. Beloved says:

    Hugger declaring the Word IS powerful! I caught myself obsessing about food, again, and then Gods Word came to mind and refocused me. John 6:35. “Then Jesus said, ‘I am the bread of life. Whoever comes to me will never go hungry, and whoever believes in me will never be thirsty. ‘” This word is tried and found True no matter how often I need redirecting.

  90. saled says:

    Beloved’s story of seeing her father with the angels reminds me of seeing my father after his burial.

    Mart’s second paragraph pretty well sums up the beliefs of the little church next door to my childhood home. “For those who read (past tense) the Scriptures in a way that gave themselves annual atonement— while seeing the rest of the world as destined for judgment—Jesus talked and lived outside the lines of the way they connected the dots.” The members of that church used to tell a joke about someone dying and going to heaven and being given an elevator ride by St. Peter. He told them they had to be quiet when they went by the 10th floor. When asked why, his response was, “That’s the Baptist floor. They think they are the only ones here.” But the problem was that the church members believed they were the only ones who believed in the correct way.

    While many of my aunts and uncles and cousins were members, my family was not. We attended Sunday School and sometimes church, but it was pretty much assumed that my parents were unsaved. While my father was dying, someone led him to say the sinner’s prayer. But deep inside, it was not his saying the right words that I put my trust in. My hope was in Jesus being way bigger than the people in my church. And then after Dad’s funeral, I remember being so tired and when I lay down to rest, I saw him standing beside his cemetery lot, dressed in a suit and smiling. And I took this as a sign that he was OK.

    My husband’s brother is a pastor in the same denomination. When Dad died, they were not notified for a day or two. My sister in law expressed concern because they had been praying for my father after his death. Throughout my years here reading Been Thinking, Steve has shared the story of praying for his dead grandfather a few times. I appreciated people writing these experiences that don’t fit neatly in the box my denomination has for them.

  91. street says:

    For those who read (past tense) the Scriptures in a way that gave themselves annual atonement— while seeing the rest of the world as destined for judgment—Jesus talked and lived outside the lines of the way they connected the dots.

    seem like mart is alluding to the law here, where annual atonement was required. seems like the all where headed to to judgment for all had not kept the law.

    thinking of the One Who lived outside the lines of others who connected the dots differently, made a new way of living beginning with Pentecost.

    thinking One died therefore all died that they would no longer abide in sin and death, but in life in Christ, Spirit and Truth. raised up with Him in Hope. being sanctified by the Spirit and Truth, Your Word is Truth.

  92. street says:

    Children of Promise.

  93. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks for sharing that Saled!

    A few months after my dad had died, I saw in a dream, or a vision, I don’t know, my dad was in the room, high on the ceiling, just like as if our bedroom was a place , where a balcony was all around it, where there was a higher place. My dad looked down from the balcony, and he bowed down and blowed, like Jesus blowed on the disciples and said: receive you the Holy Spirit, John 20:22

    The message I got from that dream was: Let the Holy Spirit fill you, be inspired by the Holy Spirit.

    In my old church, they were very much of the common sense, using our own thinking to interpret, the inspiration of the Holy Spirit was viewed as suspicious, as many wrong teaching could come from it. “How do you know it is the Holy Spirit and not some religious spirit?”

    Funny thing is, that our church was having a religious spirit, seeing the sabbath and holy days as literal, and not as a foreshadow of the Cross of Christ.

    The summary of the Law is: Love God above all, and your neighbor as yourself.

    Jesus Himself gave this summary, and this is often used as a way to live.

    In my old church this was used, and in a way that you had to see to it, that you do not give attention to others more than to yourself. Look after yourself first, and then to others.

    But….. at the end of His mission on earth, He gave a New Commandment: Love others as I have loved you.

    To love others as Jesus has loved us, is a deeper love, it is a sacrificial love.

  94. foreverblessed says:

    in Our Daily Bread today it is about that sacrificial love.
    I find that really good! Very good.

  95. poohpity says:

    Seems to me that if we cared so much about people to pray for them after they have died, then what has stopped us from caring and praying for them while they are alive. To share the Good News so that they may live this life being satisfied in the mystery of Christ in us our only HOPE of glory. A life satisfied knowing that Jesus did not come to judge or condemn us but to save us from the powers of darkness that fill this world and our hearts. To live in the here and now with the purpose of doing good and then living out our eternity with God forever?

    John 10:10 NLT
    John 3:16-18

    If we have faith and trust in God then what stops us from doing the very things He saved us for and so help me remember where God says to pray for the dead or to be baptized for the dead? I wonder if doing those things does not distract us from doing the very things like loving our enemies, doing good and loving those who may not return it, sharing the Gospel, feeding the hungry, clothing the naked, sheltering the homeless, etc..

    For me the most important thing is am I doing what Jesus has taught me to do that needs no interpretation, it is simple and plain to see and hear? Am I living what I say I believe or is it just words?

  96. poohpity says:

    Why would God reveal deeper truths if we can not even get the simple and plain? Does that mean we have deceived ourselves into thinking there is something deeper than faith in Christ?

  97. SFDBWV says:

    It is ironically sad how the lesson Mart is teaching here is so quickly erased from the minds of those who think they have all the dots connected.

    Jesus was crucified for not conforming to the expert’s hypocrisy and it remains the same today.

    All are crucified for not conforming to the so called expert’s explanation of things rather than such expert’s see the mystery of what remains.

    God remains bigger than our thinking and will forever continue to.


  98. Beloved says:

    Thanks Forever ODB is very very good.
    Sacrificial love, loving God and others as we have been loved. It takes time to learn; a lifetime! But we have today and are not promised tomorrow.
    Think on these things…true honest just etc. it’s between me and God.

  99. poohpity says:

    Steve, what is so neat and awesome is we already have some of the answers and explanations to so much already but sadly some people do not bother to look but would rather give their opinions based on nothing but air.

  100. Beloved says:

    The last paragraph. I think I finally get it Mart. Fighting for the Truth, it seems to me this should only happen amongst believers with unbelievers. Believers nitpicking amongst each other is well stupid, actually. (This coming from a hopefully reformed nitpicker. 😞) Particularly when adults can’t remain civil and courteous and friendly even.

    Forever I think of Paul’s teaching of the weaker brother when you mention sabbath keeping. I think he has a very good way of dealing with others; hmmm like sacrificially even! Yes! Sacrificial love! Oh that we may learn to put this Love to use today!! Amen

  101. Beloved says:

    But in the end, He showed that he would rather die like a criminal outside the walls of their vision of his Father, rather than conform to the rules of their hypocrisy.

    And ours.

  102. foreverblessed says:

    Even our faith goes deeper,
    We go from faith to faith
    Says the Word

  103. foreverblessed says:

    ODB yesterday, that our faith in Jesus grows stronger and stronger, that we are no more anxious about our own life, because we have abandoned ourselves to Jesus, we call Him our Lord and Master, Lord, being confident that He will take care of all our needs.
    So we can serve others, love Jesus above ourselves. ( I had written: love others above ourselves)

    In fact, sometimes I think, when we know that Jesus loves us, that we are loved by Him, the only thing Jesus wants to know is this:
    Peter, do you love Me, more than these?

    Did Jesus not say: whoever loves his own life more than Me cannot follow Me.
    (The words are: who does not hate his own life, cannot follow Me)
    Hate= loving less

  104. foreverblessed says:

    Are we not to show the love of Jesus, by serving?
    Jesus would rather die like a criminal outside the city, sacrificial love.
    Jesus told us, that as they treated Him, the Master, so they will treat His servants.
    Street often asks, have we died to ourselves?
    To our old man
    And live in newness of life in the Resurrection life of Jesus.
    We are His, and He is ours.

    Gal 2:20-21

    “The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself for me”

  105. poohpity says:

    Amen forever! That goes on to say, “I do not nullify the grace of God, for if righteousness were through the law, then Christ died for no purpose.” We have such freedom in believing in the Son of God not to do wrong but to do good.

    “Let me ask you only this: Did you receive the Spirit by works of the law or by hearing with faith?”

  106. poohpity says:

    Jesus said, ““These things I have spoken to you while I am still with you. But the Helper, the Holy Spirit, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things and bring to your remembrance all that I have said to you.”

    So it seems that the words Jesus spoke because of His Spirit within us, will be our guide into all the teachings of Jesus. So we can rely on Him as we read the bible and the witnesses of those who came before us while interpretation on our own my lead us down a path that maybe only a path of our own imaginations.

  107. Beloved says:

    Deep calls to deep.

  108. street says:

    thinking about seeking the first the Kingdom and His Righteousness….

    Kingdom/rule/ruling…..thinking of centralized rule and individual autonomy, could there be both? His Righteousness not derived from the law or the flesh. a new way of life/new creation/new birth.

    John 14:7
    If you had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”

    if you abide in Me, Jesus, and My Word abides in you…..

  109. foreverblessed says:

    Individual autonomy…
    And being one with Jesus…

    Being one with Jesus, what a beautiful passage, everything Jesus said, on the evening of the last supper.
    The oneness Jesus has with the Father, and Jesus inviting us to oneness with Him, and in Him, He takes us to the Father.
    It always sounded as a mystery to me.
    But I am still having this bible study on the Body and Blood of Jesus, and the implications in our life with Jesus.

    The Cross is the solution for the fall of men.
    Jesus, the Word through Whom everything exists that exists, there is nothing that exists without Him (this double phrasing) He became flesh, our flesh and our blood. “You have prepared a body for Me” Hebrews 10:5

    The Blood that cleanses us from all sin,
    And the Body is the vehicle through which we can come to God.

    “Therefore, brothers, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, His Body.” Hebrews 10:20

    His Body is the curtain through Whom we pass into the presence of God, into the Most Holy Place.
    Not only the blood that cleanses, but also the Body, into which we were placed by the Word of God,
    I can except that Word, and live on peace of mind:
    Jesus is Lord and Master, He is in control, my eyes can be on Him.

  110. foreverblessed says:

    –His Righteousness not derived from the law or the flesh. a new way of life/new creation/new birth. —

    I was reading Hebrews 10 again:
    The Law is contrasted to the Body, You have prepared for Me.

    Hebrews 10:1-10.

  111. poohpity says:

    The letter written to the Hebrews known as Hebrews was written to show the supremacy of Christ because many Hebrew Christians were returning to Judaism rather than understanding that we have everything we need in Jesus, the promised One, who fulfilled what the Law and the Prophets had been speaking of. At the time those Christians were being persecuted by not only the Jews but also Romans so they were falling back to old ways like sacrifices, burnt offerings, thinking they could earn salvation and the like. Reading the whole letter brings much clarity in what it is about and why it was written filling in the blanks about the sacrifice of Jesus’ body and blood as the final atonement rather than the sacrifices of animals that was only a temporary fix until Jesus came.

  112. poohpity says:

    Sort of like connecting the dots between the OT and the new.

  113. poohpity says:

    Jesus said in John 5: You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, 40 yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. 41 I do not receive glory from people. 42 But I know that you do not have the love of God within you. 43 I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him. 44 How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God? 45 Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope. 46 For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?”

  114. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Bubbles, on discover the word there is a series now called:
    Is is an hour of listening, in 5 parts. Elisa is leading the disvussion. It encouraged me greatly.

  115. foreverblessed says:

    Psalm 13 was Read today on the Oecumenical Prayer.

    How long, Lord? Will you forget me forever?
    How long will you hide your face from me?
    How long must I wrestle with my thoughts
    and day after day have sorrow in my heart?
    How long will my enemy triumph over me?

    Look on me and answer, Lord my God.
    Give light to my eyes, or I will sleep in death,
    and my enemy will say, “I have overcome him,”
    and my foes will rejoice when I fall.

    But I trust in your unfailing love;
    my heart rejoices in your salvation.
    I will sing the Lord’s praise,
    for he has been good to me.

    It always amazes me how unexpected the Psalmist’s change is,
    between verse 4 and verse 5,

  116. foreverblessed says:

    This Psalm was connected to the story of the blind man, begging Jesus to help him, crying for help.
    Mark 10:46-52

  117. Beloved says:

    Forever those are all wonderful scriptures to think about. Yes it always surprised me when the psalmist got out his feelings but turned to God for help! We are still the same people aren’t we. Yet like the blind man received physical help so Jesus changes our hearts from stone to flesh to be able to receive the wonder of living with our new life in Christ!

    This so encourages me as God has revealed twice now in a week how I still have some deeply held feelings of anger toward God. Very very deep but now through Gods grace I can access and deal with them. Praying He will reveal the sin that holds these to me. You can pray for me also please. Thank you forever.

  118. Beloved says:

    Wisdom from God has revealed the source of my anger. I can finally let it go! Praise God!

  119. Beloved says:

    2CORINTHIANS 4 16Therefore we do not lose heart. Though our outer self is wasting away, yet our inner self is being renewed day by day. 17For our light and momentary affliction is producing for us an eternal glory that is far beyond comparison. 18So we fix our eyes not on what is seen, but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal.

  120. Beloved says:

    Wow, is this ever true!

    John Piper: “You will never grasp the truth of God, you will never understand the Bible, if you start with yourself and judge God, instead of starting with God and judging yourself.”

  121. Beloved says:

    1I am a rose of Sharon,
    a lily of the valleys.

    2Like a lily among thorns
    is my darling among the young women.

    3Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest
    is my beloved among the young men.
    I delight to sit in his shade,
    and his fruit is sweet to my taste.
    4Let him lead me to the banquet hall,
    and let his banner over me be love.

    Thank you, God, for your love, which I don’t deserve.
    In Jesus name, Amen

  122. street says:

    It always amazes me how unexpected the Psalmist’s change is,
    between verse 4 and verse 5,

    the great switch from self to God.

  123. street says:

    thinking of the promise, “I will bless you.”

    this world certainly falls short on that. His Faithfulness and our faithfulness come from Him same as Righteousness. be a wise builder spend time with Jesus.

  124. Beloved says:

    His Mercy Is More
    [Shane and Shane] by Matt Boswell and Matt Papa
    Verse 1
    What love could remember no wrongs we have done Omniscient all knowing He counts not their sum Thrown into a sea without bottom or shore
    Our sins they are many His mercy is more
    Verse 2
    What patience would wait as we constantly roam What Father so tender is calling us home
    He welcomes the weakest the vilest the poor
    Our sins they are many His mercy is more
    Verse 3
    What riches of kindness He lavished on us
    His blood was the payment His life was the cost We stood ‘neath a debt we could never afford Our sins they are many His mercy is more
    Chorus 1
    Praise the Lord His mercy is more Stronger than darkness new every morn Our sins they are many His mercy is more

  125. Beloved says:

    Thinking of loneliness I found this to be very helpful as I deal with it often-


    We are not fundamentally free; external circumstances are not in our hands, they are in God’s hands, the one thing in which we are free is in our personal relationship to God. We are not responsible for the circumstances we are in, but we are responsible for the way we allow those circumstances to affect us; we can either allow them to get on top of us, or we can allow them to transform us into what God wants us to be. Conformed to His Image, 354 L

  126. foreverblessed says:

    3Like an apple tree among the trees of the forest
    is my beloved among the young men.
    I delight to sit in his shade,
    and his fruit is sweet to my taste.
    4Let him lead me to the banquet hall,
    and let his banner over me be love.

    I was thinking about Brother Lawrence, and his book:
    Practicing the presence of God

    God is always with us, whether we feel it or not, we can rehearse these beautiful bible verses, while we are sitting at the dinner table.

    Setting our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfector of our faith, the Alpha and Omega.

  127. foreverblessed says:

    or we can allow them to transform us into what God wants us to be. Conformed to His Image,

    The circumstances…
    I used to have trouble with the fall, leaves falling, cold
    God who made heaven and earth, fall and spring, night and day.
    He is always there! He does not change!
    You asked for prayer Beloved, I do pray for you, please pray for me too.

  128. Beloved says:

    Yes I pray for you, forever.
    Letting Gods words soak into us is what I am thinking. Circumstances reveal how we may have wandered away. It’s so easy to do as I’ve said always as far back as I can remember. Aren’t we so blessed to have the Holy Spirit to bring to our remembrance the goodness and kindness of God!

    Prayer and knowing others are praying is such a comfort. To ask is not shameful, to believe and receive in faith is required. Why so hard sometimes?

  129. Beloved says:

    The riddles may remain the same, until, but we choose Christ who first chose us! I’ve never heard this but found it online.

    I bind unto myself this day (St Patrick’s Breastplate)
    Words attributed to St. Patrick

    I bind unto myself today
    the strong Name of the Trinity,
    by invocation of the same,
    the Three in One and One in Three.

    I bind this day to me forever,
    by power of faith, Christ’s incarnation;
    his baptism in Jordan river;
    his death on Cross for my salvation;
    his bursting from the spicèd tomb;
    his riding up the heavenly way;
    his coming at the day of doom;
    I bind unto myself today.

    I bind unto myself the power
    of the great love of cherubim;
    the sweet ‘Well done’ in judgment hour;
    the service of the seraphim.
    Confessors’ faith, Apostles’ word,
    the Patriarchs’ prayers, the prophets’ scrolls,
    all good deeds done unto the Lord,
    and purity of virgin souls.

    I bind unto myself today
    the virtues of the star lit heaven,
    the glorious sun’s life giving ray,
    the whiteness of the moon at even,
    the flashing of the lightning free,
    the whirling wind’s tempestuous shocks,
    the stable earth, the deep salt sea
    around the old eternal rocks.

    I bind unto myself today
    The power of God to hold and lead,
    his eye to watch, His might to stay,
    his ear to hearken to my need.
    the wisdom of my God to teach,
    his hand to guide, His shield to ward;
    the word of God to give me speech,
    his heavenly host to be my guard.

    Against the demon snares of sin,
    the vice that gives temptation force,
    the natural lusts that war within,
    the hostile men that mar my course;
    or few or many, far or nigh,
    in every place and in all hours,
    against their fierce hostility
    I bind to me these holy powers.

    Against all Satan’s spells and wiles,
    against false words of heresy,
    against the knowledge that defiles,
    against the heart’s idolatry,
    against the wizard’s evil craft,
    against the death wound and the burning,
    the choking wave, the poisoned shaft,
    protect me, Christ, till Thy returning.

    Christ be with me, Christ within me,
    Christ behind me, Christ before me,
    Christ beside me, Christ to win me,
    Christ to comfort and restore me.
    Christ beneath me, Christ above me,
    Christ in quiet, Christ in danger,
    Christ in hearts of all that love me,
    Christ in mouth of friend and stranger.

    I bind unto myself the Name,
    the strong Name of the Trinity,
    by invocation of the same,
    the Three in One and One in Three.
    By Whom all nature hath creation,
    eternal Father, Spirit, Word:
    praise to the Lord of my salvation,
    salvation is of Christ the Lord. Amen.

  130. poohpity says:

    Jesus warned us in His prayer for us, “I have told you all this so that you may have peace in me. Here on earth you will have many trials and sorrows. But take heart, because I have overcome the world.”

  131. Beloved says:

    That is so encouraging to be reminded that He has overcome the world and it’s trials troubles and sorrows and prays for us!! We all have our share-but Christ! Oh what a glorious reward! Steadfast true and loves us more than we can even imagine! May He console all here today with the peace that passes all understanding in Christ Jesus, Amen

  132. Beloved says:

    And there again He points to Himself as the answer! Even as He prays for us.

    I’ve been thinking about love. If God is love as John said then doesn’t it stand to reason that everything He says and does is always loving? Scripture explains itself. It’s the interpreters responsibility to also learn about Gods love in order to interpret correctly. I shut my mouth. So much to learn.

  133. foreverblessed says:

    Yesterday the sermon was about the three friends of Daniel, Daniel 3:1-30
    In the midst of fierce intimidation, they kept their eyes on God.
    They knew that God was Lord of all.
    Nebuchadnezzar thought he was the big guy, wasn’t he the one that had conquered Jerusalem? Wasn’t the Temple of their God destroyed? He was the powerful man. He forgot that God had given him that position.
    Where was the love of God for His people?
    When Daniels friend would have looked on the circumstances they could have thought like that. But they knew scripture, that God had for told in Deuteronomy 28:15,36
    However, if you do not obey the Lord your God…
    The Lord will drive you and the king you set over you to a nation unknown to you or your fathers. There you will worship other gods, gods of wood and stone.

    This God was made of gold, ninety feet high.
    But…. Hannaniah, Mishael and Azariah did NOT worship that image. Even though it was foretold that the Israelites would do that on the prophecy, they didn’t.
    As a young child, I was always impressed by that story..
    Their deep trust on God, in face of great evil!
    They did not love their own lives, as Jesus asked us: anyone who does nat hate ( love less than Me) his own life cannot follow Me.

    That even though we do not understand what happens in our lives, we will trust God, that He deals with us, only in love.
    Keep my eyes on Jesus, He is in control, even now, when things look dim in the world.

    God saved the three friends out of the fiery fire, with great miracle, seen by all. What an example that story must have been for the martyrs two thousand years ago.

  134. foreverblessed says:

    Sorry, typo,
    This God was made of gold
    Should have been:
    This god was made of gold.
    The image that Nebuchadnezzar made.

  135. foreverblessed says:

    Some more to say about the friends of Daniel:
    In my Bible I had written:
    Like Job, the friends of Daniel had unconditional love for God:

    “O Nebuchadnezzar, we do not need to defend ourselves before you in this matter.
    If we are thrown into the blazing furnace, the God we serve is able to save us from it, and he will rescue us from your hand, o king.
    But even if He does not, we want you to know, O king, that we will not serve your gods or worship the image of gold you have set up.”
    Daniel 3:16-18

  136. SFDBWV says:

    I love the Book of Daniel. Within His pages are deep insights into the spiritual world around us as well as profound prophesy.

    I remember reading long ago as well as hearing Billy Graham say that his teachers in Seminary actually taught that the prophesy as to when Messiah would be born and when killed was perfectly given in the Book of Daniel, and so it believed the Book was written after the birth and death of Jesus.

    Billy Graham said if he believed all he was taught in Seminary he never would have become an evangelist.

    Clearly because of the influence Daniel had upon the scholars and intellectuals of Babylon as well as all of the ancient Books of the Torah, the Magi knew exactly where and when the promised King would be born and so we have the story of the “Three Wise Men”.

    Johnny Cash had a song out long ago about Shadrach Meshach and Abednego titled, I believe, “They didn’t bend, they didn’t bow they didn’t burn”.

    A tribute to the simple truth as not to give in to any ruling or social pressure from the world, but to stand firm with your faith and remain faithful to God and in the end you are rewarded for your faith and trust in Him.

    Thank you Foreverblessed for awakening me to my memory of all contained in the Book of Daniel this morning.


  137. poohpity says:

    Weren’t the Israelites taken captive about 600 years before the birth of Jesus? Wasn’t the “when” of the birth only illuminated by the appearance of the star so how could they have known exactly when? Were the wise men all from the same area or were they from different places and do we know for sure if there was three of them or more? That is were people put assumptions in rather than the facts we do have, so like creating a man made story line.

  138. poohpity says:

    So it would seem like people create their own story rather than interpreting what we are given which seems to be why arguments are started by the created story line rather than recorded history. Assumptions, jumping to conclusions and adding to an already amazing history of witnesses’ testimony which seems to cause deadlocks.

  139. Beloved says:

    I always loved the story of the three thrown into a fiery furnace because God sent an angelic being- I was taught it was Jesus Himself- to protect and accompany them as their strong faith was proved. Because this miracle was performed for the king it changed his focus to God and to serving Him alone. Yes I see Gods grace at work.

    28 Nebuchadnezzar answered and said, “Blessed be the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, who has sent his angel and delivered his servants, who trusted in him, and set aside6 the king’s command, and yielded up their bodies rather than hserve and worship any god except their own God. 29 Therefore I make a decree: Any people, nation, or language that speaks anything against the God of Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego shall be torn limb from limb, and their houses laid in ruins, for there is no other god who is able to rescue in this way.”

    We struggle to understand why God would allow people to be killed under the Abrahamic Covenant because we see things differently through the new Covenant proclaimed by Christ’s death. We’ve been given new eyes just as Jesus said we would. We have these treasures in
    earthen vessels that Christ may be glorified in us. I feel smaller and smaller when I read scripture through the new eyes of grace I’ve been given.

  140. Beloved says:

    Softly and tenderly
    Jesus is calling
    Calling for you and for me
    See on the portal
    He’s watching and waiting
    Waitin’ for you and for me
    Come home
    Come ho-ome
    He who are wary
    Come ho-ome
    Ernestly, tenderly
    Jesus is calling
    Calling, oh sinner
    Come home
    Come home
    Come ho-ome
    He who are wary
    Come ho-o-ome
    Ernestly, tenderly
    Jesus is calling
    Calling, oh sinner
    Come home

  141. street says:

    Weren’t the Israelites taken captive about 600 years before the birth of Jesus?

    no, just 70 year in babalonian captivity.

    there was 400 years of prophetic silence till John the Baptist.

    Israel had 5 husbands the Babylonians Persian Meads Greek Romans, now she is living with one that is not her husband. thinking woman at the well.

    So it would seem like people create their own story rather than interpreting what we are given which seems to be why arguments are started by the created story line rather than recorded history.

    thinking of Paul going to Jerusalem and the Holy Spirit leading him there at the same time the church is being told arrest bondage and jail awaits him in act 20 &21. Paul is going and the members of the church don’t want him to go. same Spirit same Prophesy different ideas on how to proceed. Paul saying you guy are breaking my heart! the prophecy did not fall short, farewell tour. yet still serving until the end, faithfully

    Paul is going to have many friends in Heaven and much thanks to God on Pauls behalf.

  142. foreverblessed says:

    All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, so that the servant of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.
    verse of the day on biblegateway.

    Daniel 9:25-27
    “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’ It will be rebuilt with streets and a trench, but in times of trouble. 26 After the sixty-two ‘sevens,’ the Anointed One will be put to death and will have nothing.[b] The people of the ruler who will come will destroy the city and the sanctuary. The end will come like a flood: War will continue until the end, and desolations have been decreed. 27 He will confirm a covenant with many for one ‘seven.’ In the middle of the ‘seven’ he will put an end to sacrifice and offering. And at the temple he will set up an abomination that causes desolation, until the end that is decreed is poured out on him.

    To me that text just above in these verse seems pretty exact, from the issuing of the decree to restore Jerusalem, this date was exactly known in Babylon, and these wise men who lived there had these writings, very possibly.
    So it seems to me, that the things Steve said, were not assumptions.
    When they saw the star, they started to look up what was written, and they found the writings of Daniel, which we have now in our Bibles in Daniel 9:25-27

    To me, this example of the friends of Daniel were very inspiring to me too.
    They showed what Jesus talked about: They did not love their own lives more than God, even Nebuchadnezzar saw that.
    THe impression they gave on the great rules of the world empire of that day! They were a witness.

  143. foreverblessed says:

    But, Nebuchadnezzar fell back into forgetting GOd, and made himself great again, he had seen the greatness of God, but forgot, Twice he did fall back.
    The book of Daniel shows me, that God is dealing with the rulers of the world too. God deals with Nabucco 3 times:
    1- in a dreams to Nabucca (italian name for Nebuchadnezzar)in Daniel 2, and then Nabucco (is easier to write, haha) says that God be praised,
    2- the fiery furnace, the great king had forgotten that he has said that GOd was great, and made a big statue for himself, where the friends show bravely how they revere God more than men, and Nabucco sees that in Daniel 3:28-30
    3-another dream, about the tree in Daniel 4, where after Nabucco again forgets about God, and considers himself the greatest, then he gets mad, and is expelled from society. But he is restored

    “At the end of that time, I, Nebuchadnezzar, raised my eyes toward heaven, and my sanity was restored. Then I praised the Most High; I honored and glorified him who lives forever.” Daniel 4:3

    The last words written by Nabucco, the great ruler of the world empire of that time, are found in Daniel 4:37:

    ” Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and exalt and glorify the King of heaven, because everything He does is right and all His ways are just. And those who walk in pride He is able to humble.”

  144. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Foreverblessed for providing a piece of the exact dating of events given in the Book of Daniel.

    I have no time nor energy to argue with pooh and so just simply don’t and won’t.

    I have spent most of my adult life reading and listening to various authors and speakers delivering information found in the Bible and am thankful for their expertise on all the various subjects.

    In the Hebrew text the birth of Jesus was I think around the 23 of September. Emperor Constantine combined the pagan ritual of celebrating the winter solstice with the birth of Jesus and so we have Christmas celebrated on December 25.

    Yesterday morning when I mentioned what Billy Graham had said about his college experience at Seminary, I was quoting Billy Graham.

    I had also read from other authors about the exact dating of future events given to Daniel. And so was amused at hearing Reverend Graham tell about his school experience.

    The “Minor” Prophets are all about prophesy and if any of you have the time and energy I recommend to all to dive into the study of them.

    It is an odd October in that I mowed my grass yesterday. Usually by now, not only have we already had a killing frost or two, but several inches of snow. But not so far this year.

    Seeing the little “Wooly Worms” I have this fall I notice they are mostly red. Since I never can’t remember which prediction applies I will have to look it up. More red or more black means different things.

    The oddest thing for me this year so far is that the Humming Birds left about six weeks early, and all at once.

    God not only speaks to us through His written Word, but also through the “natural” things around us. But we have to be open to hearing both.

    Thank you again Foreverblessed for your input as well as your fellowship.


  145. poohpity says:

    Thank you Steve, street and forever for showing that the pieces of scripture especially prophesy can be taken out of context to mean whatever anyone wants them to be. Many people write about prophesy as if they know what it means when in reality anyone’s guess is just as good as another but ignore the very simple things we are given to know for sure.

    I did not say that the Israelite’s were captive 600 years I said that the things that happened to Daniel happened around 600 B.C. through 535 B.C. which is around the time that Daniel wrote about his time there and if they were written then is was about 600 years before the birth of Jesus. All the prophesies about the coming Messiah written by both the major and minor prophets happened before the 400 years of silence until the testimonies of those in what we call the New Testament. And It was Jesus who brought to light and understanding those prophesies and other written about Himself.

    Luke 24: Then Jesus said to them, “You foolish people! You find it so hard to believe all that the prophets wrote in the Scriptures. 26 Wasn’t it clearly predicted that the Messiah would have to suffer all these things before entering his glory?” 27 Then Jesus took them through the writings of Moses and all the prophets, explaining from all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.”

    So if for one minute we think we can understand those things on our own without creating a different story or purpose for those writings then we have fooled ourselves and those who live today and write about them as if they know about those prophesies then I would suggest to find someone else to read or listen to because often those are the type of teachers who are usually the one’s that lead people astray because God withholds many things from us other than just a glimpse, it seems.

  146. poohpity says:

    So then it would follow that a lot of division and quarrels happen when people talk about things when they are really only hunches, assumptions, perceptions and conclusions we have reached by our own thinking not on the facts we are given to know.

    So forever in all those sixty times seven etc. times time and a half what is the exact dates of when those prophesies will happen?

  147. poohpity says:

    Do we know the exact dates that Daniel even wrote those prophetic words to begin the count?

  148. street says:

    Matthew 24:36
    “But about that day and hour no one knows, not even the angels of heaven, nor the Son, but the Father alone.

  149. Beloved says:

    I enjoy a healthy discussion between adults on biblical topics.
    Matthew 24:36 . Respectful humble commentary is healthy since none of us is God.

  150. Beloved says:

    poohpity says:
    October 26, 2021 at 8:56 am
    Thank you Steve, street and forever for showing that the pieces of scripture especially prophesy can be taken out of context to mean whatever anyone wants them to be.

    You assume so, dear Pooh.

  151. Beloved says:


    I was just listening on YouTube an interview called “Living a Life Abiding In Jesus” (Pastor Alistair Begg) by Towne Baptist where to my surprise he mentions Daniel and the grace given during hard times.
    Gods grace is the message trying to get through some of our thick heads 🤣 :-)

  152. poohpity says:

    Dear Beloved the proof was right there it was not assuming at all! So which part in your worthy opinion would you consider assuming?

  153. Beloved says:

    Oh I’m not worthy at all. All interpreters have “proof”. You my dear are just as interpretive as the rest of us. You asked.

  154. Beloved says:

    Pooh do you believe your church has the only correct interpretation?

  155. Beloved says:

    Worthy is the Lamb that was slain. Yet not I, but Christ in me. Jesus just loves sinners who repent. Jesus loves me.

  156. foreverblessed says:

    The Bible itself gives exact facts;
    But that I shared this morning,

    “Know and understand this: From the time the word goes out to restore and rebuild Jerusalem until the Anointed One, the ruler, comes, there will be seven ‘sevens,’ and sixty-two ‘sevens.’

    We are talking here about the first coming of Jesus.
    Maybe there is a misunderstanding here.
    We are not talking about the second coming of Christ.

    But the first coming, and indeed, we know even Daniel wrote this, in Daniel 9:1
    In the first year of Darius, son of Xerxes (a) or Ahasveros.
    (Just a small detail, that son maybe the son of Esther and Ahasveros? Talking about assuming ;-)

    And the time decree that was given tot rebuild, we also know:
    Ezra 1:1-3 and 2 Chron 36:22-23
    It is a copy! But that’s a detail.
    But a strange detail, why are the dates do exact, real facts? About time.

    So the magi knew the dates, and they could count weeks, and they sat of their journey,
    The Magi who gave their gifts to Jesus, in the manger ( but that is An assumption, maybe by that time they had a real room, and not a stable for cattle.

    The gifts of gold and mirre and incense.

  157. Beloved says:

    19 Speak to each other with psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs, singing and making music in your hearts to the Lord. 20 Always give thanks to God the Father for everything, in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.

  158. Beloved says:


    God forbid that any of us should follow the ungenerous and destructive policy of living unto ourselves. Jesus pleased not himself. All fulness dwells in him, but of his fulness have all we received. O for Jesus’ spirit, that henceforth we may live not unto ourselves! Amen

  159. Beloved says:

    Forever I was just listening to Tozer who said that we as followers of Christ will also smell of Frankincense Myrrh and Gold! Imagine that! An aroma pleasing to God!

  160. poohpity says:

    Beloved, I can not ever remember my church trying to interpret prophesy. That seems to be left to those who think they have special insight that no one else does and it seems that more often than not they are usually wrong. It seems if God wanted us to know clearly then like other things He would have told us clearly and plainly.

  161. Beloved says:

    I meant biblical interpretation which does include lots of prophesy.

  162. Beloved says:

    Essential Meaning of interpretation
    1 : the act or result of explaining or interpreting something : the way something is explained or understood

  163. Beloved says:

    And yet, even in the writings that followed, apart from confidence in Jesus’ love for all, the riddles of Scripture remain (present tense) deadlocked– not in a fight for the Bible, or for its witness to the Living Word— but for the interpretation of its inspired written words.

  164. street says:

    The fight for the free love of God?

  165. SFDBWV says:

    Jesus chastised the elders of Israel for not knowing when and where He was born into the world and so not recognizing Him as Messiah.

    Whereas I still believe everything took place as God intended, yet God had told of His coming in prophesy and so their guilt exposed for not paying attention to it and heeding it.

    Something not unique to the people of Israel as time and time again God sent His messengers and His message to them and it was ignored.

    So what about us? Is it ok to ignore prophesy and not be attentive to what God has provided for us?

    No it is not ok to ignore prophesy. God has given us information for our benefit and to prepare us for lay ahead.

    It still isn’t ok to only selectively read the Bible and then select the interpretation we want to hear.

    Daniel is filled with information. A very special Book that speaks loudly to the events of the world as the end nears as well about the spiritual unseen world around us. And much more.

    A cold 39 degree morning, wet with light drizzle. But it’s warm here in the house.


  166. poohpity says:

    I have read and studied the bible for 32 years now and this is what I have learned about God and the human race by connecting the dots;

    God’s love for us is greater than any human love can be.

    God wants a relationship with me/us, who knew?

    God pursued me/us just as I am, not as He would have me be.

    God gave me a purpose for living.

    God never gives up on me/us and is faithful in His love.

    God even taught me what real love is and what it is not.

    So it seems to me that no matter what prophesies are and I am OK without knowing their meaning because I know the One who gave them and I know that He is sovereign over everything they foretold or forewarned and I can put my life in His hands and rest assured that as I am in His hands now that I will one day be with Him into eternity. That is all I need to know and I am OK with that.

  167. SFDBWV says:

    Deborah, that is fine for you. You are content in where you are and need know nothing else.

    Please let the rest of us be content as well in knowing where we are with our relationship with God.

    Please allow us to have our thoughts and ponder other things. To share our faith in our own way.


  168. Beloved says:

    Well said, Steve.

    Wow, after the gut punch yesterday I see another one this morning from street. God really really loves me❤️. The LORD is my Shepherd, I shall not want. How do we really know the depths of love without persecution. I am blessed!

  169. Beloved says:

    Pooh you miss one vital thing in your vitae-

    Indeed, under the law almost everything is purified with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness of sins. Hebrews

  170. Beloved says:

    vi·ta … 1. A curriculum vitae. 2. A short account of a person’s life. [Latin vīta, life; see vital.].

  171. poohpity says:

    Well Steve I am wondering how you think I am able to stop you or others from discussing, thinking and pondering other things? I know God well enough to realize that only He has that kind of power to transform minds from desiring weeds for wheat. You tell me then how does trying to figure out prophesy help you grow in your relationship with God and doing what He has given us to do? Does it help or hinder? Trying to understand something that only God knows for sure seems to me like chasing the wind but that is after all my opinion for what it is worth and obviously it is of no value to those who do not realize that most prophesy was to point us to Christ who is the fulfillment of those prophecies. Like I said if I have Christ then I have discovered where the law and prophets were pointing and that is all I need. What you discuss, think about and ponder is up to y’all being it is really not any of my business, after all I am allowed to share what I think and ponder as well so why would my thinking or pondering bother or stop anyone else?

  172. poohpity says:

    I passionately hope that the things I share, discuss, think about and ponder will lead others to being people who seek God’s heart not to following me.

  173. Hugger4U says:

    Good morning!

    The Lord bless you all with His wisdom and understanding for your walk with Him today. His mercies are new every morning and great is His faithfulness. Hallelujah!

    I don’t have anything more to add about this topic.

    Just wanted to check in and see how everyone is growing up into the head of Christ who is over us, His Church, reaching unity in faith, maturing with the milk and meat of His Word. We are all part of the body of Christ so let us continue on and not think you have arrived only to find out you are behind! LOL

    Put God first, lay down everything that hinders your walk with Christ.

    TAKE THOUGHTS CAPTIVE! Very important!

    DON’T TAKE UP OFFENSE, it only leads to arguments. Don’t do the devil’s work for him. He LIES, check your thoughts!

    Build each other up! Encourage your brothers and sisters.


    Imagine talking to Jesus. We have His Spirit in us so when we talk to each other we ARE talking to Him.

    Out of the abundance in a man’s heart he speaks. Once you let your thoughts go unchecked they embed in your heart then when you speak it reveals what is in your heart. This is why you are told to take your thoughts captive to obey Christ or cast them out if they don’t.

    LOVE, God is Love! He is also Spirit. We must worship in Spirit and Truth. Think on these things.

    Ask the Lord of the harvest to send workers in the fields. Let us not be distracted. Revival and reformation are happening right now in our nation and other nations. Praise God!

    Pray for each other. If we are praying for each other we are loving God and His Church body.

    In HIS LOVE,


  174. Beloved says:

    I studied the beatitudes last night with A W Pink. It’s a process, isn’t it. But the Truth giver makes it easier.

    I’m somewhat uncomfortable with the universalist format here. If everyone speaks their truth what good is it? Just thinking out loud and not surprising then that there are wars and rumbling of wars here often. Does peace come when everyone agrees to disagree or when the Prince of Peace shows up? Silly question, it seems to me.

  175. Beloved says:

    Thinking of false peace that deceives and true Peace that divides.

    May Jesus bless all here today!
    In Christ’s good love, Amen

  176. Beloved says:

    Definition of paper tiger – Merriam-Webster
    Paper tiger definition is – one that is outwardly powerful or dangerous but inwardly weak or ineffectual.

    Why would a follower of Christ follow any other? Won’t happen, Pooh.

  177. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks you Hugger, for your encouragement!
    At the moment I take part in a Christian conference, the sermon yesterday was about, Unity in Christ, and what Unity killers are:
    One of them was the one Hugger referred to:
    In watching our thoughts:
    And the preacher had one example in the times just after the Israelites had conquered the land, the two and a half tribes built an altar, a huge altar.
    Joshua 22:6-10
    And instead of asking why they did it, they took it as a crime against God, and sent an army.
    Read what they said tot the 2,5 tribes:
    Joshua 22:20

    It is quite impressive the way the 2,5 answered, they did not taked it as an offense, but explained why they did it!
    Joshua 22:21-29

    And they accepted the explanation.
    Joshua 22:30-33

    And the Reubenites and the Gadites gave the altar this name:

  178. plumbape says:

    I love this stuff! always learning things when I come here. Missing my wife of only 32 years wow. She passed on 8/23/21. Say a prayer for us…. She will be missed immensely, it’s getting getting some what easy to think about her being away for awhile. I’ll see her again on the other side

  179. plumbape says:

    left a comment twice but it disappears when I click submit button any suggestions

  180. SFDBWV says:

    Prayers Mike for your family and peace in your heart.

    I have no advice whereas the BTA site is concerned it seems sometimes to just be contrary.

    I hate that it takes so long before what we type to be seen on the site. Sometimes right away and most times some 25 minutes later.

    Peace and blessing for you today.


  181. poohpity says:

    If one will click in the upper right side where it says “Howdy” then your name then when the next screen comes up click on the left upper side on “been thinking” the comments will come up sooner. Hope that helps.

  182. Hugger4U says:


    Prayers for the Lord to comfort you in your loss. May the Love of our Mighty God fill you will all faith, hope and love. (Sounds like He’s already doing that!)

    Grace and Peace,

  183. Beloved says:

    My condolences to you such a sad passing.
    Blessings now and forever because of Christ who knows our sorrows.

  184. Beloved says:

    I most of the time have to log out then in again to refresh the page. Once in a while it shows my post immediately but not often. I have time but..

  185. Beloved says:

    Forever in reading those passages what came into my thoughts was how Jesus was sacrificed on the grand altar outside Gethsemame (the garden) for ALL! For every tribe nation and sinner that ever lived and will be born. Yes when the enemy or even friendly fire comes it is an opportunity to plead our Case. Judging of motives is it seems to me very common. We’re more like wild animals that have gone astray but Jesus was kind enough to call us sheep. Gracious and kind and loving is He according to scripture and a few personal revelations He has made to me. Without the inner witness of the Holy Spirit it would be impossible to follow Him. He’s not safe, but He is…good.

  186. Beloved says:

    I like Huggers advice to talk out loud to Jesus through the day- or night. Yesterday my anxiety was overwhelming me then I just started talking to Jesus out loud about every thought in my head even as I drove and walked. When these stress-storms hit the only thing to do is chew them away (thank God I’m not alcoholic or drug addicted) or talk and walk! Oh Jesus what a Friend of sinners! Hallelujah even when I can’t focus enough to read scripture. Thanks Hugger❤️

  187. Beloved says:

    Reading Titus tonight. Some really good directions on Godly life in the Kingdom.

  188. SFDBWV says:

    Is there anything that any of you enjoy? Does living even in this broken world give any of you happiness or pleasure?

    In contrast, does living in this broken world make you bitter towards it?

    The gist of Mart’s subject is how differently we believers interpret the written word.

    Before I delve into Scripture I already know will be challenged for what it says. Do you think that our interpretations are influenced by our experiences and place in life? Perhaps by our educations or bias with regards to our innate personalities?

    Personally, life has placed me in a position where I have almost no time for myself. However before being thrust into this season of my life and even now, I have always enjoyed the study of the “mysteries” of Scripture.

    It has often placed me into opposition with some who prefer the orthodox understanding of what is stated and want no more to be unearthed by digging deeper.

    They simply don’t want to know any more, as what they know keeps them comfortable and they do not want their comfort disturbed.

    I understand that and respect it.

    However being involved in a blog that is titled “Been Thinking About” leaves open to “thinking” or if you prefer “pondering”.

    If you personally think there is nothing left to ponder, I don’t know why you would want to participate here. Except perhaps to challenge any or all who don’t think like you.

    I will reserve for now some Scripture I already know will be challenged for what it simply says. As my presence is needed and I must attend to my responsibilities.

    But for now I will see where this may take us.

    46 degrees and wet.


  189. poohpity says:

    Here is something to ponder; Do we really “need” to know the
    future when we know the One who holds the future in His hands?

  190. Hugger4U says:

    Good morning!

    We have not because we ask not. Keep asking, seeking and knocking. If you want to continue to grow in wisdom and knowledge of our Father, Jesus and Holy Spirit we continue to ask, seek and knock.

    I choose to continue to grow and live. I encourage all to continue to choose life and grow!

    “My people perish for lack of knowledge.”

    The Word does not say to stop when you feel content with what you know. That is a sure fired way to grow pride, complacency and apathy. Choose LIFE!

    “Get rid of the slave woman!” That is living under law. We are free in Jesus. The TRUTH will set you FREE! Praise the Lord!! Amen

    Keep in the race.
    In the power of His Love.

  191. foreverblessed says:

    Paul kept digging deeper.
    At the end of his life, in Philippians 3:10-11
    He says:
    “I want to know Christ and the power of His resurrection and the fellowship of sharing in His sufferings, becoming like Him in His death, and so, somehow, to attain to the resurrection from the dead.”

    I was staring at these words, was Paul at the end of his life, still at that point? Didn’t he teach in Romans 6:3 that we were all baptized into Christ Jesus, that we were baptized in His death?

    Wat…, that we were therefore buried with Him through baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

    And years later he is still digging into that topic:
    To, somehow, attain to the resurrection of the dead.

    There must be a great depth in the Cross of Christ.

    Seeking today again, to live in the resurrection Life of Jesus.

  192. poohpity says:

    I have never found a believer who stops being a student of the Lord. There is always something new to learn and discover after all God is infinite. I know there are somethings I may never understand but in faith I trust but I agree with Paul when he said knowing Christ and believing in Him is all I need to know. If I thought there was nothing more to learn I would stop reading and studying the Bible or going to church or Bible studies. I feel like I have only scratched the surface and am eager with desire to learn and grow closer to our loving God.

  193. street says:

    foreverblessed says:
    October 30, 2021 at 10:07 am

    forever read your post and was thinking how it touched on a phrase I read in scripture that has stuck with me the last couple of days. the phrase “the dead in Christ” from 1 Thessalonians 4:16. shall rise first.

    Galatians 2:20
    I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I who live, but Christ lives in me; and the life which I now live in the flesh I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me.

    thinking about the Holy Spirits’s work in the believer. the believers rest too. resting in peace in Christ Jesus. yet we are troubled by events and circumstance that bring doubts and confusion. I believe we are told to bring them to Jesus and pour them out so we can receive Him. sure get soiled in the marketplace/wilderness.

    thinking of Pauls bonds to Christ. what has bond me to Christ? His death? His life? regeneration/ new birth? just thinking or just trusting……

    last phrase, walking in the Spirit.

  194. foreverblessed says:

    Walking in the Spirit
    That’s it.
    It sounds so easy.

    But why do we have to remember the Cross of Jesus?
    If the only thing would be: to walk in the Spirit?

  195. Beloved says:

    Philippians 4:8-9 I’ve been meditating on today and am wondering is this a means of walking in the Spirit?

    The cross of Christ is where our new life began. Without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin. No forgiveness. No peace with God. I focus on the cross especially when tempted or tried. Quite often actually. I can’t get away from it. Take up your cross and follow Me. The Jesus I talk to has the scars to prove who He is. I’ve seen them because I needed to yet blessed are those who not seeing them still believe! We’re all blessed!

  196. foreverblessed says:

    It is good to encourage one another, thanks for all the input!
    That we rest, and the Spirit works in us,
    May God give us the Grace to rest in faith in Jesus

  197. street says:

    not in a fight for the Bible, or for its witness to the Living Word— but for the interpretation of its inspired written words.

    not so much knowledge or even direction, but for Holy Ground, the presents of GOD.

    Exodus 20:20
    However, Moses said to the people, “Do not be afraid; for God has come in order to test you, and in order that the fear of Him may remain with you, so that you will not sin.”

    2 And I will send an angel before you and I will drive out the Canaanite, the Amorite, the Hittite, the Perizzite, the Hivite, and the Jebusite. 3 Go up to a land flowing with milk and honey; for I will not go up in your midst, because you are [a]an obstinate people, and I might destroy you on the way.”

    14 And He said, “My presence shall go with you, and I will give you rest.” 15 Then he said to Him, “If Your presence does not go with us, do not lead us up from here. 16 For how then can it be known that I have found favor in Your sight, I and Your people? Is it not by Your going with us, so that we, I and Your people, may be distinguished from all the other people who are on the face of the [a]earth?”

  198. Beloved says:

    I love Moses. His words just as strong and helpful today! Standing on the shoulders of our fore-bearers makes perseverance somewhat easier. What a magnificent cloud of witnesses who have gone before!

  199. Beloved says:

    Psalm 119:49-56
    New King James Version

    49 Remember the word to Your servant,
    Upon which You have caused me to hope.
    50 This is my comfort in my affliction,
    For Your word has given me life.
    51 The proud have me in great derision,
    Yet I do not turn aside from Your law.
    52 I remembered Your judgments of old, O Lord,
    And have comforted myself.
    53 Indignation has taken hold of me
    Because of the wicked, who forsake Your law.
    54 Your statutes have been my songs
    In the house of my pilgrimage.
    55 I remember Your name in the night, O Lord,
    And I keep Your law.
    56 This has become mine,
    Because I kept Your precepts.

  200. street says:

    walking in The Spirit. walking in the Light of The World, Jesus.

    if you abide in Me, and My Word abide in you……

    thinking of the new residences in Christ, you no longer live in the old place.

    restoration/sanctification in progress.

    One died therefore all died. the dead in Christ will be raised

    the one who believes and lives will never die.

    thinking of Paul dying daily and putting to death the flesh by the Spirit.

    I will build you a house. a place were Righteousness dwells. living stones.

  201. street says:

    6 knowing this, that our old [d]self was crucified with Him, in order that our body of sin might be [e]done away with, so that we would no longer be slaves to sin; 7 for the one who has died is [f]freed from sin.

    8 Now if we have died with Christ, we believe that we shall also live with Him, 9 knowing that Christ, having been raised from the dead, [g]is never to die again; death no longer is master over Him. 10 For [h]the death that He died, He died to sin once for all time; but [i]the life that He lives, He lives to [j]God. 11 So you too, consider yourselves to be dead to sin, but alive to God in Christ Jesus.

  202. Beloved says:

    Dead to sin…

    The LORD enabled me to go to the Baptist church today and I was so blessed to witness the pastor weeping when he shared that communion isn’t about us- focusing on our sins- but about Christ and what He did for us. We were told to focus on the blood that was shed for us. I agree wholeheartedly. Kind of unusual but he is a reformed leaning preacher and I really feel like this is where I belong. Such a good feeling.

    On another note: thanks for praying for my son who told me he loved me yesterday! It’s been years and he’s been calling me Joyce instead of mom for many years which really hurt. God is softening him as I pray daily he will return to Jesus whom he once knew. I understood that it’s my unwavering faith in God that’s been between us. God loves his prodigals so much!

  203. Hugger4U says:

    2 Timothy 1:12b

    I know whom I have believed, and am convinced that He is able to guard what I have entrusted to Him until that day.

    Proverbs 22:6

    Start children off on the way they should go, and even when they are old they will not turn from it.

    God keeps His promises. He is always faithful and trustworthy!

    I have prodigals as well.

    Blessings to all.

  204. SFDBWV says:

    Malachi 3:1 KJV “Behold I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom you seek, shall suddenly come to His temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom you delight in: Behold He shall come, Saith the Lord of Hosts.”

    Malachi 4:5 KJV “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the Lord.”

    Matthew 11:7 KJV “And as they departed, Jesus began to say unto the multitudes concerning John,”

    Matthew 11:10 KJV “For this is he who it is written, behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee.”

    Matthew 11:14 KJV “And if ye receive it, this is Elias, which was for to come.”

    Matthew 17:10-12 KJV “And the disciples ask Him saying, why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? “ And Jesus answered unto them, Elias must truly shall first come, and restore all things.” “But I say unto you that Elias is come already, and they knew him not, but have done unto him whatsoever they listed. Likewise shall also the Son of man suffer of them.” “Then the disciples understood that He spoke unto them of John the Baptist.”

    So here you go. Is John the Baptist Elijah or not?

    Jesus says he is.

    So that would mean that the person or essence or soul of John was actually Elijah. Born again through natural childbirth via Elizabeth.

    Yet still remaining Elijah as seen in the vision of the transfiguration, after John’s death.

    I actually believe Elijah to be one of the prophets mentioned in Revelation. Though Moses seen at the transfiguration I also believe the other prophet mentioned in Revelation to be Enoch.

    The “great day of the Lord” being the birth of Jesus, the “dreadful day” being the great tribulation.

    Anyway what do you think? Who is John the Baptist? John, or the reincarnation of Elijah?

    I apologize for this coming so late in the day. I started writing it early this morning but couldn’t finish it until time to shut down the computer this evening.

    Calling for maybe a little snow mixed in with the rain in the morning.


  205. Hugger4U says:

    The same Spirit that was on Elijah was oh John the Baptist. That is how I have always seen those passages as meaning. It’s the Holy Spirit working through both. Which is at work now in us.

    Thanks for sharing Steve.

  206. street says:

    John was set aside for service from conception. Elizabeth, like Sarah, a son of promise.

    Jesus had some things to say about John and the children of the coming Kingdom.

    John had some things to say about Jesus.

  207. Beloved says:

    Speaking of John the Baptist-

    Luke 1:17 — The New Revised Standard Version (NRSV)

    17 With the spirit and power of Elijah he will go before him, to turn the hearts of parents to their children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous, to make ready a people prepared for the Lord.”

  208. Beloved says:

    Elijah was taken up while still alive so could not be “reincarnated” through another body. Just thinking.

  209. SFDBWV says:

    John 3:12 KJV “If I have told you earthly things, and ye believe not, how shall ye believe, if I tell you of heavenly things?”

    Beloved, I too am just thinking…Pondering.

    To me these are some of the questions “interested people” or young believers ask.

    We should have good answers for both, if we are to be witnesses for Christ.

    I love an honest answer as Hugger has given. Certainly all servants of God whether willingly or not are empowered by the “Holy” Spirit to accomplish the goals of God.

    What has always caught my attention to the matter of who John is, is the fact that Jesus said he was Elijah. Not like Elijah, but the man Elijah.

    Jesus also said of the matter “If you can receive it.” Not just if you can understand it, but rather if this is something you can accept.

    As modern-day believers we are ask to accept a great many things on faith. And I have found many mysteries within the pages of Scripture that bolster my faith as I can come to “receive” them.

    This is the result of searching out and digging deeper the words of Scripture. Entrenching our faith and providing confidence through His Word. Always confirmed and “birthed” by The Holy Spirit.

    I have more to say concerning the word “spirit”, but will leave it for later.

    Looks like the weather man was wrong again…No rain and no flurries. 45 degrees and cloudy.


  210. Hugger4U says:

    I have similar interests, Steve. I ask the Lord what is that about? I sometimes receive answers later when words come into my thoughts that I know are scripture and will look them up and I know it was from the Lord because it builds up my faith and gives wisdom and understanding of Christ in me. Just an example of one way I receive answers about something that pops out in reading the Word.

    I love it! Focusing on Christ and everything about walking in Spirit and Truth while on this earth is not boring by any means. I feel bad for those who shipwreck their faith and stay in a safe harbor their entire lives. But the Lord understands and gives abundant grace and mercies for us all. I’m more hungry and thirsty for Him than I have ever been at this season of my life, so on we go. :)

    Praise God and thank You Jesus! May Your will be done in the earth the same as in Heaven!

    In His Love,

  211. poohpity says:

    I really like pie.

  212. poohpity says:

    I am welling to receive what Jesus meant about John the Baptist being Elijah. After all they were both called to call people to repent and turn to God.

  213. bratimus says:

    After the arrival of the Holy Spirit, all that truly accept Christ Jesus and are baptized in the Holy Spirit have the same Spirit that Elijah and John had. It is God’s Spirit indwelling in us.

    In Christ Jesus name


  214. Beloved says:

    Ephesians1 13And you also were included in Christ when you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation. When you believed, you were marked in him with a seal, the promised Holy Spirit, 14who is a deposit guaranteeing our inheritance until the redemption of those who are God’s possession—to the praise of his glory.

    Thanksgiving and Prayer

    15For this reason, ever since I heard about your faith in the Lord Jesus and your love for all God’s people, 16I have not stopped giving thanks for you, remembering you in my prayers. 17I keep asking that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you the Spirit f of wisdom and revelation, so that you may know him better. 18I pray that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened in order that you may know the hope to which he has called you, the riches of his glorious inheritance in his holy people, 19and his incomparably great power for us who believe. That power is the same as the mighty strength 20he exerted when he raised Christ from the dead and seated him at his right hand in the heavenly realms, 21far above all rule and authority, power and dominion, and every name that is invoked, not only in the present age but also in the one to come. 22And God placed all things under his feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church, 23which is his body, the fullness of him who fills everything in every way.

  215. Beloved says:

    22and God placed all things under His feet and appointed him to be head over everything for the church

    Not meaning to detract from the discussion about the Holy Spirit but this really impacts me today as the enemy tries to get me hung up on things from my degenerate past. Thanking God He has chosen me to know Him! Praying to know Him better. Amen

  216. street says:

    Jesus also said of the matter “If you can receive it.” Not just if you can understand it, but rather if this is something you can accept.

    Matthew 10:40
    “The one who receives you receives Me, and the one who receives Me receives Him who sent Me.

    Genesis 38:20
    When Judah sent the young goat by his friend the Adullamite, to receive the pledge from the woman’s hand, he did not find her.

    Mark 9:37
    “Whoever receives one child like this in My name receives Me; and whoever receives Me does not receive Me, but Him who sent Me.”

  217. street says:

    17 So I say this, and affirm in the Lord, that you are to no longer walk just as the [a]Gentiles also walk, in the futility of their minds, 18 being darkened in their understanding, [b]excluded from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, because of the hardness of their heart; 19 and they, having become callous, have given themselves up to indecent behavior [c]for the practice of every kind of impurity with greediness.

  218. street says:

    Psalm 139:12
    Even darkness is not dark to You, And the night is as bright as the day. Darkness and light are alike to You.

    Ecclesiastes 2:13
    Then I saw that wisdom surpasses foolishness as light surpasses darkness.

    Isaiah 9:2
    The people who walk in darkness Will see a great light; Those who live in a dark land, The light will shine on them.
    16 I will lead those who are blind by a way they have not known,
    In paths they have not known I will guide them.
    I will turn darkness into light before them
    And uneven land into plains.
    These are the things I will do,
    And I will not leave them undone.”

    Isaiah 45:7
    The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and creating disaster; I am the Lord who does all these things.

    Luke 11:35-37
    35 So watch out that the light in you is not darkness. 36 Therefore if your whole body is full of light, without any dark part, it will be wholly illuminated, as when the lamp illuminates you with its light.”

  219. Beloved says:

    Scripture is so helpful and directing. Thank you street.

  220. Beloved says:

    To receive is to accept, I believe, unless it’s judgement and fire. Do we know everything about the One we have received? Not if we come as little children with our little faith. A mustard seed in a child’s hand seems larger than one in an adults hand, right? Just thinking.

    Thinking again about the blood of Christ and the thief hanging next to Jesus witnessing His death. Jesus took him to paradise! Death where is thy sting, indeed. It’s been consumed by victory!

  221. Hugger4U says:

    Free time today so been thinking about the questions posed by Steve in regards to Elijah and John the Baptist. Which got me to thinking about other questions I have that the Lord hasn’t shown me the answers yet.

    Like In the book of Job with his three friends and then after their back and forth conversations up pops Elihu. What? Who is this young man and what does this mean? I did not find any wrong in what he was saying and obviously God didn’t either because he didn’t include Elihu when scolding the other friends and told Job to pray for the three.

    I did find mention of Elihu in Unger’s Bible Dictionary saying it’s possibly Job’s nephew from brother Nahor. I don’t know but agreed with Unger that it seemed that Elihu set up what God was going to say through the whirlwind. I remember another whirlwind… 2 Kings 2:1 which brings us back to Elijah! Hmmmmm!

    Sometimes it’s just fun and like a treasure hunt in the Word.

    Who knows (I don’t know yet) maybe Elihu was Elijah before he was even born in the flesh and God sent His Spirit on another body. A precursor to Elijah in the flesh.

    Just thinking on the Word. :)

  222. Beloved says:

    I don’t recall where I learned this but was suggested that Jobs friends were holy men like Job. That Elihu, being the youngest, was not at liberty to even speak to Job until the others were done speaking and unusual for someone like him to do so. I always think how interesting the “up and comer” Elihu seemed to know God better than even Job did. Yet the book doesn’t even focus on what everyone thought they knew about God but focuses on God Himself. (I may have heard it when I studied Job in college but that’s been a while ago now.) Always something to learn in the Word!

  223. foreverblessed says:

    19 Now this was John’s testimony when the Jewish leaders in Jerusalem sent priests and Levites to ask him who he was. 20 He did not fail to confess, but confessed freely, “I am not the Messiah.”

    21 They asked him, “Then who are you? Are you Elijah?”

    He said, “I am not.”

    “Are you the Prophet?”

    He answered, “No.”

    22 Finally they said, “Who are you? Give us an answer to take back to those who sent us. What do you say about yourself?”

    23 John replied in the words of Isaiah the prophet, “I am the voice of one calling in the wilderness, ‘Make straight the way for the Lord.’”

    24 Now the Pharisees who had been sent 25 questioned him, “Why then do you baptize if you are not the Messiah, nor Elijah, nor the Prophet?”

    26 “I baptize with water,” John replied, “but among you stands one you do not know. 27 He is the one who comes after me, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie.”

    28 This all happened at Bethany on the other side of the Jordan, where John was baptizing.

  224. foreverblessed says:

    Interesting that Elihu has the same task as Elijah has: preparing the way of the Lord.

    Job 32:6-22

  225. foreverblessed says:

    Receiving the Word is accepting.

    Accepting that the Blood of Christ has covered our sins.
    There is nothing more that we have to do, but to accept the Truth of the great value of the blood of Jesus, that
    “We have been justified by His blood”
    Romans 5:9

    So, if someone accuses us, like the friends of Job: “you must have done something wrong, otherwise these calamities would nog have come over you.”
    Job started to defend himself, endlessly.
    Satan accuses is day and night, “the accuser of the brethren”
    Hebr 9:11-12
    But He entered the Most Holy Place once for all by His own blood, having obtained eternal redemption.

    And our own conscience accuses us, but as the Word says:
    How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!
    Hebr 9:14

    Job was telling at length of all the things he had done good, and he did good! Job 31:1-40
    Paul explains that we do not have to look inside to see for any good, but to claim the blood of Jesus

    They overcame him (the accuser) by the Blood of the Lamb..
    Rev 12:11

  226. SFDBWV says:

    Yes Hugger Bible study can be fun. Actually exciting. I love digging into mysteries and then discover more and more amazing pearls.

    Interesting isn’t it that John denies being Elijah, yet Jesus says that he was.

    Equally interesting that even though John, when Jesus came forth to be baptized, introduced Him as the Lamb of God and must have heard the voice from the heavens proclaiming Jesus to be the Son of God. That he had to send his disciples while he was in jail to ask Jesus if He were Messiah.

    More mystery to unravel and more truths to discover.


  227. foreverblessed says:

    Paul warns is not to argue about disputable matters.
    Both Elijah and John the Baptist would point us to the Savior: Jesus, the Lamb of God, that would take away the sins of the world.
    By no one else can we be saved.
    I picture us in the resurrection, Steve, and then both of us meeting Elijah and John the Baptist. (Sorry, I cannot imagine that there will be no John the Baptist)

    And when we meet them, we will laugh, and laugh, out of sheer gladness, given by the Lord.

  228. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed, there is a reason for these little oddities in Scripture. Finding the reason is finding the treasure.

    The treasure is always Jesus the Christ but the journey is the fun and finding out how the dots are connected very satisfying and a piece of a much larger puzzle.

    I believe John to be Elijah’s spirit. Because Jesus said so.
    Jesus also said “If you can receive it.” concerning heavenly things. So there are those who can and those who cannot. Jesus did not rebuke any who could not.

    This is just where I am with regards to this story. There are a lot more stories and a lot more room for how each of us see them.

    I must go for now. Matt is calling.


  229. poohpity says:

    Seems to me when we are born God called us by name and knew everything about us even down to every hair on our heads but then to think we can turn into someone else, another unique human being in and of their self seems to go against every other dot we are to connect within the whole. So how can it be? Well unless we have stepped into the Twilight zone. I do not recall any other human being turned into another human being. Is there any place we have learned that one person’s spirit goes into another person’s body to become them?

    Col 2: I am telling you this so no one will deceive you with well-crafted arguments. 5 For though I am far away from you, my heart is with you. And I rejoice that you are living as you should and that your faith in Christ is strong.

    6 And now, just as you accepted Christ Jesus as your Lord, you must continue to follow him. 7 Let your roots grow down into him, and let your lives be built on him. Then your faith will grow strong in the truth you were taught, and you will overflow with thankfulness.

    8 Don’t let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ. 9 For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. 10 So you also are complete through your union with Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority.

    11 When you came to Christ, you were “circumcised,” but not by a physical procedure. Christ performed a spiritual circumcision—the cutting away of your sinful nature. 12 For you were buried with Christ when you were baptized. And with him you were raised to new life because you trusted the mighty power of God, who raised Christ from the dead.

    13 You were dead because of your sins and because your sinful nature was not yet cut away. Then God made you alive with Christ, for he forgave all our sins. 14 He canceled the record of the charges against us and took it away by nailing it to the cross. 15 In this way, he disarmed the spiritual rulers and authorities. He shamed them publicly by his victory over them on the cross.

  230. Hugger4U says:

    Loving the discussion! :)

    Busy day so no comment. Will check back later this evening.

    Taking my mom out shopping, errands and lunch. She is 89 yrs old and still lives in the house I grew up in but doesn’t drive any more.

    Have a blessed Spirit filled day!!

    Thank You Lord for blessing Your people today and giving them exactly what they need to follow You and make disciples. Help us to be ready in season and out of season to give a reason for our hope.
    In Jesus’ name, Amen.

    In His Love,

  231. poohpity says:

    How can one understand deeper spiritual truths when the solid foundation has yet to be laid of first things first? The very basics like; ” I want them to be encouraged and knit together by strong ties of love. I want them to have complete confidence that they understand God’s mysterious plan, which is Christ himself. In him lie hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.”

  232. poohpity says:

    Before Jesus went to the cross here is something to think about who were the two that were transfigured next to Jesus and what did they represent? Jesus told us that he did not come to abolish the law or the prophets but to fulfill them and if we connect the dots then it seems that Moses represented the Law and Elijah represented the prophets. It was not Moses and John the Baptist but Moses and Elijah now this was weeks after the question about the identity of John the Baptist. So if Elijah turned into John the Baptist rather than John the Baptist being like Elijah in calling then maybe the people who were transfigured would have been different. It is interesting to connect the dots but you have to know the dots to connect them, right? The thing that seems so cool about Moses and Elijah is they both pointed people to Jesus even from thousands of years before while they were both on earth.

  233. foreverblessed says:

    There is one thing: When there will be no John the Baptist in heaven, then I will cry.

  234. Beloved says:

    John came in the spirit of Elijah. The same spirit assigned at birth or the same Holy Spirit imparted to both for essential purposes? I recall John leaping in Elizabeth’s womb when told of Christ.

  235. street says:

    little gems tested by fire.

    31 The sun rose above him as he passed Peniel,
    GENESIS 32

    thinking The Son rose above him as he passed the Face of God.

    another gem recently.

    …..So Jacob took an oath in the name of the Fear of his father Isaac. GENESIS 31:53

    taking an oath in the fear of laughter.

    it would seem the people of the east passed this boundary many times to do Israel harm.

    thinking there is no agreement between Light and darkness.

    thinking of Jacob wrestling with God and asking for His Name?

    God asks why do you ask me for my name? thinking of Moses and the burning bush.
    IAM that IAM.

    yet we see the Son with many names to describe God.

    He has finally Spoken through His Son. you must hear Him.

    those who receive Him, receive the One Who sent Him.

    Colossians 2:8
    Be careful not to allow anyone to captivate you through an empty, deceitful philosophy that is according to human traditions and the elemental spirits of the world, and not according to Christ.

  236. poohpity says:

    forever, I do not think you will need to cry when you get to heaven because from what we are taught in Revelation 21: I heard a loud shout from the throne, saying, “Look, God’s home is now among his people! He will live with them, and they will be his people. God himself will be with them. 4 He will wipe every tear from their eyes, and there will be no more death or sorrow or crying or pain. All these things are gone forever.”

    5 And the one sitting on the throne said, “Look, I am making everything new!” And then he said to me, “Write this down, for what I tell you is trustworthy and true.”

  237. poohpity says:

    Beloved, Luke 1:41

  238. Beloved says:

    I just came upon a sermon by Arthur Pink called Christian Fools on YouTube. He starts out by saying he was going to make some Christians angry.

  239. Beloved says:

    Thanks Pooh

  240. poohpity says:

    Scripture is just filled with so much wonder and joy that one can dig deeper within it and so many dots to connect we need not create things from our own understanding. I think that is why God told us what He desires from us; Do what is right, love mercy and walk humbly with our God. (Micah 6:8 NLT) Everything is pretty simple when we do not get caught up in the weeds and make things harder than they are to get our eyes off that which is important to our spiritual maturity and growing closer in our relationship with God rather than finding things to nurture doubt.

  241. Beloved says:

    41 And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the baby leaped in her womb. And Elizabeth was filled with the Holy Spirit, 42 and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43 And why is this granted to me that the mother of my Lord should come to me? 44 For behold, when the sound of your greeting came to my ears, the baby in my womb leaped for joy. 45 And blessed is she who believed that there would be a fulfillment of what was spoken to her from the Lord.”

  242. bratimus says:

    I think for many generations now, many are still trying to figure out the meaning of Elijah being taken up to God and not dying a human death and why a return of Elijah is always suggested.

    I believe that Elijah and John are two different men, just God’s spirit working within them make them very simular. A lot of prophets, men of God are alike. before Christ we had no likeness to compare them to.

    the Bible does tell us that God’s spirit love to work within men and women lives.

    Now through Christ and the Holy Spirit we all have a good wok to do, so all good workers are done.

    In Christ Jesus name


  243. saled says:

    Foreverblessed, your 4:01 AM post from this morning has made me glad all day. Yours were just the words I needed. My conscience accuses me so often, leading me to think I am too great a sinner for God to accept me.

    These words, “How much more, then, will the blood of Christ, who through the eternal Spirit offered Himself unblemished to God, cleanse our consciences from acts that lead to death, so that we may serve the living God!
    Hebr 9:14” have made me glad.

    So much great encouragement here. Hugger’s reminder a week or so ago that coming to know Jesus lifts the veil to understanding his words. I read John this week and he says he is our meat, and the living water. How much I need him!

    The Elijah-John the Baptist subject is so interesting. Maybe John said he wasn’t Elijah because he didn’t realize that he was. But Jesus knew.

  244. foreverblessed says:

    That is so good, Saled, the Truth of the Word of God.
    Your gladness increases mine.
    Isn’t it wonderful?!
    God has dealt with out sins, He gave a solution.
    And in great meekness we can accept the Blood of Christ.

    Our children played computer games, like World of Warcraft. I didn’t like all that shooting, and guns, but….
    The players were walking around in the landscape, having a shield around them, and the shield protects them from attacks.

    We are like that!! We are protected by a shield, and that is the Blood of Christ.

    But how often I forget, while the only thing is, to stay under the covering of the blood: Jesus has forgiven me, and…
    as my pastor always says: Jesus has also died for your greatest enemy.

  245. foreverblessed says:

    The Word became flesh,
    The Word that spoke, and everything became,
    The Holy Spirit overpowered Mary, and she conceived,
    Jesus, Who Is the Word, was clean, He shared our flesh and blood, so that He could on the the Cross, deal with the sins of the world.
    John 1:1-14

  246. SFDBWV says:

    I don’t want to confuse Foreverblessed, but there is an old use of American English most all of us have heard that goes like this…
    “Bible thumper”

    It refers to a person who while arguing, whether to an unbeliever or another believer, incessantly tap their finger on the Bible they are holding with their other hand.

    They literally thump on the Bible while saying, “The Bible say’s” or “God say’s”,

    Its use (using the term “Bible thumper”) is usually applied by someone irritated by the person arguing Scripture.

    Mart separated the concept that the fight isn’t for the Bible or its witness for the Living Word, but for the interpretation of its inspired written words.

    While I agree that the fight isn’t for the faith in the Bible that believers have, I do believe there is a huge division between people who believe the Bible to be historically written as well as inspired by God and those who do not believe in either.

    When unbelievers see or listen to believers argue over interpretation of Scripture, what do you think they think of such behavior?

    Within every Bible study group of two or more people there are going to be some who are vulnerable to being confused by disagreements over interpretation.

    Just as well as I guarantee there are going to be disagreements.

    So what do we do?

    Do we just dwell on the common things we can agree on and avoid things we don’t? Or do we discuss our differences in an atmosphere of allowing differences to exist?

    Can we do that without getting upset or even angry?

    Or do we become a Bible thumper and lose our ability to hopefully influence the person or persons we are addressing?

    Being an adult isn’t as easy as we might think.

    28 degrees f this morning, finally a killing frost.


  247. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks Steve, 25 years ago, I decided to know the essence of Christ, the Cross,
    And everything beside that is not worth to die for, neither to argue about.
    We are saved through the Cross of Christ, and even that is so incomprehensible.

    I say, not worth to die for, as I was part of a sabbath keeping church, and in the past, a few hundred years ago, christians who kept the seventh day were killed in England.
    What, killed because of keeping one day over another?
    That is what made me think:
    Do I want to die because of the Sabbath?

    My answer was: No!

    So, I did search for the essence of my faith:
    Jesus Christ!

    The Body and the Blood of Jesus.
    How precious to us the blood of Jesus is, we are free from accusations, our sins are paid for, we are free!
    And then there is the Body of Christ, into which I am still searching in scripture, what the meaning is for us
    He, who the Son has freed, is free indeed.

  248. poohpity says:

    Hopefully living a Christ-shaped life people can disagree and not take that disagreement as a personal insult without the backlash of name calling, insults, and put downs. It seems in our world today disagreements have taken a vicious track. To me it is good to hear all sides before I form a conclusion but I get confused when I know someone has not put much effort into reading the material that is being discussed but pulls out a few verses here and there to sew doubt and confusion.

    I always understood bible thumpers (which is name calling) to be like the Pharisees and religious leaders that put a heavy burden on those they ruled over to pay such close attention to the letter of the law yet their hearts were far from God. Like expecting others to live sinless life while they were not able themselves to do, so used the bible as a weapon to put people down and pick out their faults, failures and inadequacies rather than a mirror to look at themselves.

    It would seem the only way to connect the dots is if one has enough dots to connect. My hat is off to anyone who has put the time in to even read the bible, the whole book and not lean on the understanding of people but with the guidance and direction of the Holy Spirit so they are equipped with dots to connect.

    Have you taken into consideration that when Malachi said, “Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and awesome Day of the LORD.” he was referring to the Second coming of Jesus that terrible time when the world will be judged?

  249. poohpity says:

    “Jesus was confirming that John was a type of Elijah, though not the actual Elijah. If John were the actual Elijah, then Jesus would not have needed to add the statement, “if you are willing to accept it.” If John were truly Elijah, then Jesus would have said John was Elijah regardless of whether someone accepted it or not.”

  250. poohpity says:

    As the angel Gabriel explained to Zechariah recorded in Luke 1:

    But the angel said to him, “Do not be afraid, Zechariah, for your prayer has been heard, and your wife Elizabeth will bear you a son, and you shall call his name John. 14 And you will have joy and gladness, and many will rejoice at his birth, 15 for he will be great before the Lord. And he must not drink wine or strong drink, and he will be filled with the Holy Spirit, even from his mother’s womb. 16 And he will turn many of the children of Israel to the Lord their God, 17 and he will go before him in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the disobedient to the wisdom of the just, to make ready for the Lord a people prepared.”

  251. poohpity says:

    you shall call his name John, then verse 14. but the computer made reference to John 14 that was not the intent.

  252. Hugger4U says:

    Good Morning!

    Peace and Love to you in the name of our Savior Jesus Christ!

    Such love for the Lord I see in your writings. I pray all of us are sowing good seeds when we discuss and write our words here.

    Thank you all for being loving brothers and sisters that comfort, edify, exhort and rejoice with each other.

    It is pleasing to God when His children get along and not take up offense at words written from a hurt heart. We are called to love one another. Love covers over a multitude of sin.

    So, onward we will go, learning and growing together! I love it when you all share what you are learning and I rejoice with you. A new revelation from God is a precious thing! I’m always amaze when He shows me something new. Our walk with the Lord is a great adventure with many things along the way.

    We need to be wise and humble and rightly handle the Word of Truth. Hopefully everyone prays and asks for wisdom and understanding seeking the Lord with your whole being.

    So, this morning I was reading in Jeremiah 30:9 which says to Israel, from the Lord, that He will raise up David their king and send Him to them.

    So, of course, He’s talking about Jesus. :) I love it!
    Just another instance in the Word where God calls names out to tell us something about it not using their eventual names. God can and does, do and say things that aren’t apparently clear at the time, but when He gives revelation it will become clear at the appointed time.

    So, keep seeking the Lord and walk in His Light and Love.

    Jesus is my all in all!

  253. Beloved says:

    Good morning all. Sharing what I read on FB today:

    John Piper: “Do you want more joy? Then die for others. Live for others. It is more blessed, more satisfying, to give yourself away.”

  254. Beloved says:

    God pays no attention to what others say (or what you think) about you. He makes up his own mind. Romans 2:11 The Message

    Thought this was a good reminder about taking offense that was brought up earlier. A reminder to fix our eyes on Jesus. We are not the I AM but the i ams.

  255. street says:

    And then there is the Body of Christ, into which I am still searching in scripture, what the meaning is for us
    He, who the Son has freed, is free indeed.

    if the Spirit of Jesus is in you , then you are the body of Christ.

    Saul Saul why do you persecute Me?

    the fun part is the unity of the body with many different members. Paul warned of wolfs coming up from among ourselves and not sparing the flock.

    thinking the scribes and pharisiess had the Word but no Spirit. because of unbelief.

    walk in the Spirit and Word/Truth.

    thinking about the mustered seed.

    the difficult part is getting past legalism and lawlessness…….maybe love is the answer?

    when love abounds jealousy can be kindled in others.

    the spying out of liberty for the purpose casting back into bondage.

  256. Beloved says:

    Is He Worthy? – Shane & Shane (Lyrics)

    This is beautiful! On YouTube.

  257. street says:

    Hopefully living a Christ-shaped life people can disagree and not take that disagreement as a personal insult without the backlash of name calling, insults, and put downs.

    this is a false hope.

    God is light and in Him is no darkness.
    if we say we have no sin, we lie and the truth is not in us

    the question remains of the efficacy of the body and blood of Christ.

    it seem the followers of Christ would use these disagreements as a spring board in catching a great wave into the presents of God for clarification. the ride may even be joyful.

    the joy of the Lord is my strength. through love and obedience to the One i love.

  258. foreverblessed says:

    The Joy of the Lord is my strength.

    Yesterday evening, the verse that I studied was Rom 5:1-2

    “Therefore, since we have been justified through faith, we have peace with God through Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have gained access by faith into this Grace in which we now stand.
    And we rejoice in the hope of the glory of God.”

    Yesterday the place was clear: we can stand in that grace, and not fall of that Grace, because of accusations, or doubt!
    (Doubt: if I really was a child of God, I would be much more patient. Thoughts like that: throw them out. Rather I should look to Jesus, who is the fountain of patience! And fall at His feet: asking for more patience.)
    I can remain standing in that place of Grace!
    Today, on Utmost, the theme is there too: through faith we connect to the salvation which Jesus has gained for us.
    Faith connects us to that salvation.

    Today the “Joy” looks at me:
    I can rejoyce, because of that assurance!!

  259. poohpity says:

    street, you stated, “And then there is the Body of Christ, into which I am still searching in scripture, what the meaning is for us” if you read 1 Corinthians 12 you may find what you are searching for.

  260. poohpity says:

    A teacher long ago taught me that usually you can find scripture to explain scripture, I think that may be why they have cross references in most bibles. Some who have gone before us have already found those things but the Holy Spirit will also bring to remembrance those things as well if they are in our minds already.

  261. Hugger4U says:

    Good morning.

    “Call to Me and I will answer you and tell you great and unsearchable things you do not know.” Jeremiah 33:3

    A generous person will prosper; whoever refreshes others will be refreshed. Proverbs 11:25

    Whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will reap generously.
    2 Corinthians 9:6

    Those verses stood out to me this morning. The Lord has been talking to me about sowing and reaping for a couple days! I love how He talks to us. :)

    Be blessed today! We are all part of His body. Keep the unity of faith!

    Thanks to all who share here. Keep going on with the Lord. He is always leading us into triumph!!

    Praise the Lord!

  262. Beloved says:

    The joy of the LORD is my strength! Amen!
    Reaping and sowing, such wonderful promises to ponder.

    Reminds me the LORD is my light and my salvation; whom shall I fear? Sometimes He says to wait for Him and I’m learning to not try and get ahead of Him. It occurs to me that not waiting usually brings some kind of judgement of others as well as distress in myself. Not what Jesus intended.

    I was reading about how the Bible describes Jesus as “grace and truth”. There’s a lot to study there. Patience as forever mentions! Oh He’s so worth the wait!! Reaping or sowing He is my delight. Amen

    Blessed day all and Mart if he is in the room.

  263. street says:

    thanks hugger i needed that.

  264. poohpity says:

    Hugger sounds like you read ODB devotional for today.

  265. Hugger4U says:


    Yes, it has been my devotional everyday for the last 40 yrs. or more. :) Doesn’t everyone here use it? It has always been a blessing to my walk with the Lord.

    It was how I found Mart’s blog. Not sure if I found it at the beginning of his starting it but real close I think.

    Did not join in on discussions much because I was busy mostly. But tuned in everyday to see what the topic was and how the discussions were going. It has been interesting. Sorry to see some leave or not contribute any more.

    You did mention Maru and yes, she lived in the valley or maybe south of the valley if I recall. Was a nice contributor for a while.

    I’m on the south central coast. Windy and rainy today!

    I appreciate all who contribute.

    Have a blessed, spirit filled day!
    Hugger (Linda)

  266. poohpity says:

    No I do not think it is a usual devotion for anyone but you and I but it seems that some check in on it occasionally. Yes I am still friends with several who have left the blog on facebook. It has been a long wonderful run on here and I miss several who left as well. I have not used ODB for 40 years but around 30 and have been a regular supporter for many years as well. So you listen to Discover the Word too?

  267. Beloved says:

    Be Thou My Vision
    Song by Audrey Assad

    Be thou my vision, O Lord of my heart
    Naught be all else to me, save that thou art
    Thou my best thought, by day or by night
    Waking or sleeping, thy presence my light
    Be thou my wisdom, and thou my true word
    I ever with thee and thou with me, Lord
    Thou my great Father, and I thy true son
    Thou in me dwelling and I with thee one
    Riches I heed not, nor vain, empty praise
    Thou mine inheritance, now and always
    Thou and thou only first in my heart
    High King of heaven, my treasure thou art
    High King of heaven, my victory won
    May I reach heaven’s joys, O bright heaven’s sun
    Heart of my own heart, whatever befall
    Still be my vision, O ruler of all
    Heart of my own heart, whatever befall
    Still be my vision, O ruler of all

  268. Beloved says:

    Dear bubbles,
    Thinking of you and praying with you Psalm 90:14
    Blessings to you in Jesus name, amen.

  269. Hugger4U says:


    No, I haven’t looked at any other teachings on ODB.

    Good morning :)

    I pray everyone is refreshed today with all good gifts from our Father. He delights in His children!

    May He be magnified and highly lifted up here on this blog.

    In His Love.

  270. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you for the blessing!
    Psalm 90:14

    Satisfy us, the Psalm says, let me share something that made me very glad this morning!

    As usual, I went to the big church in our city, it is a Gothic Cathedral, pretty building, it is open for visitors every day. There is a prayer chapel, and a prayerbook, where people write their needs.
    Every week we have an oecumenical prayer, lifting up these prayers to God the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

    Afterwards we walked to the entrance, and there I saw my neighbor, she asked me what I was doing in the church, as I walked with a bag of songbooks. I answered because of the Oecumenical prayer.
    And she was suprised!
    “I didn’t know you were such a great believer?!”
    How good that you are.
    You will be going there, and she pointed upwards. Pray for me, so I may also go there.

    A friend who was with her said:
    “You can pray everywhere, on your bike, on the street.”

    It made me so glad!

    “Satisfy us”

  271. foreverblessed says:

    It is quite a suprise to me that she didn’t know I was such an active believer, as our church praise group has often rehearsed in our house, and in the garden in summer evenings.
    She never heard what we sang?

    Anyway, I have prayed intercessory prayer for my village, for a long time.

    God is good! He hears our prayer.

  272. SFDBWV says:

    “God will make a way”.

    May it always be so.

    I am happy for your joy Foreverblessed.
    And your increased contribution Linda.

    19 degrees f again this morning.


  273. Hugger4U says:

    I always try to be a blessing, leaving Light and Love wherever the Lord leads me. It takes training and practice! :)

    In the past I used to take up offense at a lot of things and be angry. I am so thankful to the Lord that He was patient with teaching/training me how to let go and not ‘take up’ offense. No matter how the other party intended their words or actions.

    Life is one big lesson for a follower of Christ. I try and remember He is my Bridegroom and preparing me, His bride (Church body), to live with Him in Heaven. I always try to look for His perspective in any given situation, circumstance or conversation.

    I practice taking up my armor instead of the world.

    I practice examining myself and not just on days when taking communion. Especially on days where everything seems to push buttons. Confess and repent any lingering thing that goes against the law of Love.

    It all keeps me humble and forgiving on those perfect days. I do have days that are not perfectly lived. :)

    But I keep going. New day, new mercies! Hallelujah!!!

    Praising the Lord!


  274. Beloved says:

    Forever I just received some gospel tracts I got from Amazon which were very inexpensive to give out. I was thinking your neighbor would be one I would give to. Very small and easy to carry with you. They are in English but I’m sure you can find them in other languages. They explain the gospel very well and one can read them at their leisure. Last year when I had more money I ordered a bunch of ODB booklets and gave away which were readily received!

    A couple weeks ago I was in a store and another customer handed a business card to the cashier and said to look on her website for how God can help her. So many ways to tell people about Christ!

    It’s a dry and thirsty world we live in. What a blessing to never thirst again, thank you Jesus! Cups of cold water revive the heart mind and soul to Gods loving care.

  275. Beloved says:

    Linda last night I started reading and listening to sermons on Proverbs 26:4,5.

    4Answer not a fool according to his folly,
    lest you be like him yourself.
    5Answer a fool according to his folly,
    lest he be wise in his own eyes.

    Kind of complicated for me to understand at first but it explains why not to take offense because reacting makes you just like the fool! I have a problem with mirroring others so have had to learn Gods way of thinking/loving others as you said. It’s been a slow long process but so thankful for His new mercies every day! Like in the movie Groundhogs Day a do over till we get it Right! Oh the tender mercies of God, full of grace and Truth, Jesus.

  276. Hugger4U says:

    I rejoice with you, Joyce! PTL!!!


  277. poohpity says:

    Isn’t it wonderful to KNOW that it is not what we DO to get to heaven but WHO we believe in. The Lord knows those who say they believe in Him with their lips from the outside and those who believe in Him from within their hearts as I read this morning Matt 23. A great reminder for me about getting the praise of people by one’s performance and outward actions all the while the heart is far away from God. John 5:44, 12:43

  278. poohpity says:

    John 13:34-35

    We are one in the Spirit, we are one in the Lord
    We are one in the Spirit, we are one in the Lord
    And we pray that our unity will one day be restored
    And they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love
    Yeah they’ll know we are Christians by our love

    We will work with each other, we will work side by side
    We will work with each other, we will work side by side
    And we’ll guard each man’s dignity and save each man’s pride
    And they’ll know we are Christians by our love, by our love
    Yeah, they’ll know we are Christians by our love.

  279. Beloved says:

    2Corinthians 6:14
    Amplified Bible
    Do not be unequally bound together with unbelievers [do not make mismatched alliances with them, inconsistent with your faith]. For what partnership can righteousness have with lawlessness? Or what fellowship can light have with darkness?

  280. Beloved says:

    Exodus 34:14
    Amplified Bible
    —for you shall not worship any other god; for the LORD, whose name is Jealous, is a jealous (impassioned) God [demanding what is rightfully and uniquely His]—

  281. Beloved says:

    67 May God be gracious to us and bless us
    and make his face to shine upon us, Selah

    2 that your way may be known on earth,
    your saving power among all nations.
    3 Let the peoples praise you, O God;
    let all the peoples praise you!
    4 Let the nations be glad and sing for joy,
    for you judge the peoples with equity
    and guide the nations upon earth. Selah

    5 Let the peoples praise you, O God;
    let all the peoples praise you!
    6 The earth has yielded its increase;
    God, our God, shall bless us.
    7 God shall bless us;
    let all the ends of the earth fear him!

  282. Hugger4U says:

    Good morning!

    Hebrews 3:13
    But encourage one another daily, as long as it is called today, so that none of you may be hardened by sin’s deceitfulness.
    References are Jeremiah 17:9 The heart is deceitful above all things and beyond cure. Who can understand it?

    Ephesians 4:22-24 You were taught, with regard to your former way of life, to put off you old self. which is being corrupted by its deceitful desires, to be made new in the attitude of your minds; and to put on the new self, created to be like God in true righteousness and holiness.

    Reading even more in Ephesians 4 is beneficial to explaining how to not give the devil a foothold.

    We need to keep a guard on our hearts and minds.

    So much Wisdom, Life and Spirit in the Word.

    Always speak from a heart that is submitted to the Lord.

    Next to the Gospel of Luke, Ephesians is my favorite epistle. :)

    Have a encouraging day!

  283. Beloved says:

    Encouragement for friends

    ◄ Romans 12 :1I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. 2And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.

  284. poohpity says:

    This is our third week of studying Matthew chapters 5 thru 7 the Sermon on the Mount where Jesus opens our hearts up to looking at our attitudes regarding: our invitation, our calling, our relationships, our practices and our choices that help us recalibrate our hearts to that of living a Jesus-shaped life with a humble heart knowing that we need His help to do so. That helps us live a resilient life in this chaotic world. It is a study from ODB by Sheridan Voysey and it is wonderful.

  285. street says:

    And yet, even in the writings that followed, apart from confidence in Jesus’ love for all, the riddles of Scripture remain (present tense) deadlocked– not in a fight for the Bible, or for its witness to the Living Word— but for the interpretation of its inspired written words.

    Seems to me…a living sacrifice is in order, but not without a new Spirit.

  286. poohpity says:

    How many people sacrifice their time to spend in reading and studying scripture to hear from the word of the Lord?

    Eph 4: Now this I say and testify in the Lord, that you must no longer walk as the Gentiles do, in the futility of their minds. 18 They are darkened in their understanding, alienated from the life of God because of the ignorance that is in them, due to their hardness of heart. 19 They have become callous and have given themselves up to sensuality, greedy to practice every kind of impurity. 20 But that is not the way you learned Christ!— 21 assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus, 22 to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires, 23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds, 24 and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.

  287. poohpity says:

    Col 3: Put on then, as God’s chosen ones, holy and beloved, compassionate hearts, kindness, humility, meekness, and patience, 13 bearing with one another and, if one has a complaint against another, forgiving each other; as the Lord has forgiven you, so you also must forgive. 14 And above all these put on love, which binds everything together in perfect harmony. 15 And let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, to which indeed you were called in one body. And be thankful. 16 Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly, teaching and admonishing one another in all wisdom, singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs, with thankfulness in your hearts to God. 17 And whatever you do, in word or deed, do everything in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

  288. Beloved says:

    Speak, O Lord
    Song by The Master’s Seminary

    Speak, O Lord, as we come to You
    To receive the food of Your Holy Word
    Take Your truth, plant it deep in us
    Shape and fashion us in Your likeness
    That the light of Christ might be seen today
    In our acts of love and our deeds of faith

    Speak, O Lord, and fulfill in us
    All Your purposes for Your glory
    Teach us Lord, full obedience
    Holy reverence, true humility
    Test our thoughts and our attitudes
    In the radiance of Your purity
    Cause our faith to rise, cause our eyes to see
    Your majestic love and authority
    Words of pow’r that can never fail
    Let their truth prevail over unbelief

    Speak, O Lord, and renew our minds
    Help us grasp the heights of Your plans for us
    Truths unchanged from the dawn of time
    That will echo down through eternity
    And by grace we’ll stand on Your promises
    And by faith we’ll walk as You walk with us

    Speak, O Lord, till Your church is built
    And the earth is filled with Your glory

  289. Beloved says:

    Speak, oh LORD

    The LORD spoke in Isaiah 49:16 Behold, I have engraved you on the palms of my hands; your walls are continually before me.

    “Heaven and earth may well be astonished that rebels should obtain so great a nearness to the heart of infinite love as to be written upon the palms of his hands. “I have graven thee.” It does not say, “Thy name.” The name is there, but that is not all: “I have graven thee.” See the fulness of this! I have graven thy person, thine image, thy case, thy circumstances, thy sins, thy temptations, thy weaknesses, thy wants, thy works; I have graven thee, everything about thee, all that concerns thee; I have put thee altogether there. Wilt thou ever say again that thy God hath forsaken thee when he has graven thee upon his own palms?” Spurgeon

    I pray someone was encouraged. I was.

  290. street says:

    John 6

  291. foreverblessed says:

    That was a very short comment, Street!
    But effective.
    What a wonderful chapter in the bible.

    “The words I have spoken to you are spirit and they are life.”
    John 6:63

    I always wondered about the numbering of the bible verses, that John 6:66 is this one:
    “From this time, many of his disciples turned back and no longer followed Him”.

    From the time that Jesus explained, that He was the great I AM.
    I am the bread of life.
    He who comes to Me will never go hungry, and he who believes in Me will never be thirsty”

    Jesus asked the Twelve:
    “You do not want to leave too, do you?”
    Simon Peter answered Him,
    “Lord, to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life. We believe, and know that you are the Holy One of God”.

    Peter, and the twelve, did cling to Jesus.
    (Well apart from one, John 6:70-71)

  292. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, the word from Isaiah 49:16
    did encourage me greatly yesterday!
    I have been ill, it was just the flu, and could not read very much, I read this devotion on that wonderful word of the bible, and mused over it:
    I am in the Palm of His Hands.

    It is well

  293. foreverblessed says:

    About chapter numbering,
    this is just totally beyond the topic, and what does it matter, numbers? But I like numbers.
    There are in the Bible only two chapters that are numbered 6:66
    That is 1 Chron 6:66 and John 6:66
    “Some of the Kohathite clans were given as their territory towns from the tribe of Ephraim.”

    These first chapters of Chronicles 1 are about the clans of Israel. Clan by clan, and what towns they live in, with the pasture lands.

    Isaiah 49:1-26 is about the “Servant of the Lord”, that is about Jesus!

    “It is too small a thing for You to be My Servant, to restore the tribes of Jacob and bring them back those of Israel I have kept.
    I will also make you a light for the Gentiles,
    that you may bring My salvation to the ends of the earth”

    This verse is so great!
    “Too small a thing”
    to save Israel only, no the Salvation that Jesus brings is for all who believe in Him.

    The Kohatite clans were priests, and we, who have accepted Jesus as our Lord, and follow Him, we are priests..
    1 Peter 2:9 Lets keep our Temple undefiled, so the Holy Spirit can work through us,
    Romans 8:27
    Todays Utmost, talks about that!

  294. foreverblessed says:

    1 Chron 6:66
    I did some study on the biblehub commentaries, the Kohatites were not sons of Aaron, so they were not priests, but of lower ranks. Those that cleanup? Or what did they do?
    What the implication is for us now, I don’t know.
    I can only think of David, who said in a Psalm,
    I am contend to be a doorkeeper in the House of God.

  295. Hugger4U says:

    Good Morning!

    Good chapter in John. Jesus! We had communion yesterday so fitting! :)

    Praying for you Forever, that the Lord will restore you in health and well being.

    Encouraging words yesterday and this morning.

    Let’s continue to build up the body of Christ until we can all reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ. Ephesians 4:12,13

    Love it!

    Thank You Lord!

  296. poohpity says:

    Korah at first lead a rebellion against Moses and God caused the earth to swallow them up but his descendant later worked as leaders of music and song.

    In the history of the bible one finds that the reason for chapter and verse numbers were so people could find the location of certain scripture, it seems nothing more secretive than that is the reason for them. No secret things having to do with numbers but people do try to find mysteries by them which usually causes the focus to be on something other than the mysteries already revealed to us as in Christ Jesus living within us which is quite a mystery all in and of it’s self. (Col 1:26-27)

    It would seem that people are taken captive by many things that do not lead them to a personal relationship the Lord. Paul warned us about such teaching in Col 2:

    And now, just as you accepted Christ Jesus as your Lord, you must continue to follow him. 7 Let your roots grow down into him, and let your lives be built on him. Then your faith will grow strong in the truth you were taught, and you will overflow with thankfulness.

    8 Don’t let anyone capture you with empty philosophies and high-sounding nonsense that come from human thinking and from the spiritual powers of this world, rather than from Christ. 9 For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body. 10 So you also are complete through your union with Christ, who is the head over every ruler and authority.

  297. street says:

    was thinking of korah this morning. I was wondering how many times he went to the tent of meeting to come before God like Moses did? I don’t think there is any mention of it.

    even the scribes and pharisees when dealing with the Apostles understood that they had been with Jesus.

    Father in Heaven draw us to Christ that we can come before Him and abide in Your Presents. not in darkness, but peace joy and love. restored.

  298. Beloved says:

    Colossians 1:26–27

    26 the mystery hidden for ages and generations *but now revealed to his saints*. 27 To them God chose to make known how great among the Gentiles are the riches of the glory of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

    The Mystery has been revealed to us. His name is Jesus! If we believe He came to earth in human form- God incarnate- we know God and are beloved by Him. Christ in us- accepting He (God) paid the penalty for our sin so we could know Him intimately from the heart (not just the head) forever!

    Jesus said if you have seen me- and believe Who I Am- then you have seen God. I and my Father are One (God).

    Christ dwelling in us has nothing to do with feelings or knowledge; God is Spirit. Believe receive trust obey. Be transformed by the renewing of the mind. Only God can transform; Saul of Tarsus saw God and was transformed, over time. Our Bibles contain spiritual and words of knowledge as God condescends to our clayness and uses a form of communication even a child can understand. Do we believe Jesus is real? That He still lives to this day? Than we are His, engraved into the palms of Gods hands as sure as the nail scars He carries to this day.

  299. poohpity says:

    street, what need would there have been for Korah to go to the tent of meeting to meet with God since he even caused others to rebel against both Moses and God? That is a totally moot point.

  300. Beloved says:


    Thinking about numbers and since this is post #300 I found this interesting-

    In the Bible, the number 300 is used approximately thirty times depending on which manuscript you study. According to Theobald of Langres, a 12thcentury scholastic teacher, the number represents victory.
    Aug 20, 2019
    .gantshillurc.co.uk › 30…
    300 and 390: The Importance of Numbers in the Bible – GANTS HILL URC

    Victory! Yes, a reminder to give thanks to God for His victory over sin by Christ Jesus! Thank you, LORD. Amen

  301. Hugger4U says:

    About numbers….

    Gideon comes to mind when the Lord whittled his troops down to 300 to defeat the Midianites and God would be praised and receive the glory for their victory in battle.

    Numbers do have meaning. The Lord will use them!

    Don’t discount ways that the Lord will use to reach His own. This is very important that we don’t limit God in how He works. Think of what the Word says.



    We will do more amazing works than Jesus did. John 14:12

    How wonderful and exciting. Apart from Him we can do nothing. But Him living in us and we in Him….amazing things happen and all GLORY to GOD!


  302. Beloved says:

    Forever you will be happy to hear that the Korathites were singers! Levitical priests who were not allowed to touch anything in the Ark. Just to sing! Oh I wonder what words they sang? Wouldn’t we all love to have heard them! Maybe we will in heaven. Whatever we hear will be more glorious than we can even imagine!

  303. poohpity says:

    Yes they can be used to show how God can use few to do big things but people use them in a way that is similar to astrology, tarot cards it is called Numerology”=Numerology is the pseudoscientific belief in the divine or mystical relationship between a number and one or more coinciding events. It is also the study of the numerical value of the letters in words, names, and ideas. It is often associated with the paranormal, alongside astrology and similar to divinatory arts. So if one is using them in that manner then they are not depending on God but on mysticism and if I am not mistaken we are warned repeatedly in scripture against such things.

    So I chose to warn people against the use of numerology and instead will point them to trust in the Lord and not spiritual powers of darkness or the twilight zone(lol). The Lord will never use something He has told us not to mess with and I will not affirm or flatter that but instead will warn against it.

    Linda you may want to do some research on the meaning of signs, wonders, dreams and visions which reveal things of God they are not associated with the paranormal or mysticism. So we will have to disagree on that.

  304. poohpity says:

    Beloved, here are some words of songs of sons of Korah; Psalms 42, 44–49, 84, 85, 87 and 88.

  305. Beloved says:

    I was reading about God saying to count (number) the people so they knew how much to collect from the people to give to the LORD. Exodus. My daughter has an accounting degree and collects taxes and loves Soduku. Me not so much. I’ve always loved the alphabet myself.

    Thinking more about numbers in the New Testament people were counted. Jesus feeding 5,000 with just a couple fish and bread. So many numbers useful in so many ways. I always recall hearing that Gods favorite number is 7 because of how it is used in scripture.

    I don’t think anyone is referring to “numerology”. A completely different thing altogether.

  306. Beloved says:

    Oh didn’t see you Pooh thanks I figured they were in psalms but we don’t get the musical notes is what I was thinking.

  307. Beloved says:

    Oh I did say words didn’t I my bad. I was thinking words and music. Like a full orchestra. I will be reading some tonight!

  308. Beloved says:

    Dear Pooh you don’t need to tell me where to find things in the Bible. Appreciate your kindness but it kind of rubs me the wrong way for some reason. I wonder if I’m the only one? Oh well, it is what it is. Reason I’ve told you before I won’t discuss scripture with you. Please understand Joyce

  309. Hugger4U says:

    God is pouring out His Spirit on all flesh in the last days, people will dream and have visions from God.
    They are right now in the muslim nations. Unbelievers who are having dreams and visions of Jesus and are being saved. Look that up.

    Signs and wonders are what the Lord provides if needed for unbelievers. People get healed or delivered from demons etc. This is all the work of God. Going on right now in many nations including USA.

    I’m well aware of the warnings. If the devil wants to do those signs and wonders that evicts demons and heals believers, he isn’t too smart now is he? LOL

    Be blessed and free in Jesus.

  310. poohpity says:

    Beloved I apologize for answering the question you asked! My bad! If that is an issue for you maybe look inside for the reason or don’t ask!

    It is obvious that what I was saying about numbers and trying to fit meaning into them other than what they were meant for has been totally misconstrued, welcoming myself to the twilight zone. It seems people believe things like the Divinci Code as fact not fiction!

  311. Beloved says:

    I hear a roaring lion…

  312. Beloved says:

    It feels so good to set boundaries with toxicity. Thank you, Jesus, for teaching how to do that.

  313. Beloved says:

    Romans 12:18-21
    New International Version
    18 If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.19 Do not take revenge, my dear friends, but leave room for God’s wrath, for it is written: “It is mine to avenge; I will repay,” says the Lord. 20 On the contrary:

    “If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
    if he is thirsty, give him something to drink.
    In doing this, you will heap burning coals on his head.”
    21 Do not be overcome by evil, but overcome evil with good.

    In order for me to be at peace with you, Pooh, I choose not to discuss scripture with you. I have told you this before. If I ask a question here it is usually just thinking out loud. Some share here in ways that make me feel edified. I really appreciate that! Cheers!

  314. poohpity says:

    Matt 24: “Then if anyone tells you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah,’ or ‘There he is,’ don’t believe it. 24 For false messiahs and false prophets will rise up and perform great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even God’s chosen ones. 25 See, I have warned you about this ahead of time.

    Beloved please show me where Jesus teaches about setting boundaries with toxicity. I really enjoy learning.

  315. foreverblessed says:

    Salvation comes through Jesus’ Cross

    End of discussion.

  316. foreverblessed says:

    It seems to me, that a long time ago, we have noticed that all participants here agree on that above point, there is no discussion about that.
    We are all believers, we have all been rescued through the Cross, and we can enter the Holies of Holies, because of the Blood of Jesus, going through the veil, which is His Body.

  317. foreverblessed says:

    About John 6
    Which is a wonderful chapter!
    Here Jesus is telling us His first I AM
    He gives seven I AM’s
    Jesus uses numbers to explain things, He uses parabels. None of these things save us, only the fact that Jesus went to the Cross for us.
    Even on the Cross He used numbers:
    Leviticus 16:19,14
    He shall sprinkle some of the blood on it with his finger seven times to cleanse it and consecrate it from uncleannes of the Israelites.
    Now in our country there is a preacher who did a study on the Passion of Jesus, and how many times Jesus was bleeding during His trial. The first one was in the garden of Gethsemane, the sweating of the blood.
    Another one is when they put the crown of thorns on His head. The meaning of the blood He shed because of the thorns in the crown is awesome to me:
    Jesus took the curse of the fall, the ground was cursed with thorns and thistless

  318. foreverblessed says:

    Off topic, but today is my birthday. My mother was going to come, but since I had the flu, she is staying away. What i am going to do now, is to go to town, and participate in the Kristallnight remembrance. This date of November 9 was always a heavy date, being the Kristallnight in 1938. But God has used exact that date to be the night the Berlin wall fell, in 1989.
    I remember that day as a great day: Liberation for a people who had been to imprisoned.
    Thinking of the freedom we have since the day that Jesus died on the Cross, in the spiritual realm we are free, but we are still in this world, and the world is not free yet. All though the Kingdom of heaven is growing like a mustard seed. Lets keep to the faith, cling to Jesus. (The Odb today is very good)

  319. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Foreverblessed, Finding out such detail in Scripture is what makes Bible study fun.

    I have a couple books in my library that deal both with the numbers in Scripture as well as hidden prophesies found in the Hebrew text of the Torah.

    They are interesting and I admit a little over my head.

    For me to think about someone taking the time to search out such intricate detail reminds me of ancient monks setting day after day over their entire lives dedicated to only that one task.

    I admit I don’t have the time desire or energy anymore for such, but I do appreciate those who do and share it with me and others. I have locked away those little pearls in my memory and heart, collectively they seem to come together and form a bigger understanding of things.

    Sad how those who haven’t received the peace that comes from the bigger understanding of things don’t want others to have anything they don’t. Even misusing Scripture in an attempt to prove their position. And disprove yours.

    Wonderful how such faith stealers fail and only bolster what you know in their selfish endeavors.

    Because God has written on my heart what He wants me to know and keeps it safe their surrounded by His power.

    Friday a close friend of Glenna’s died suddenly of heart failure, while in the University Hospital. She had a lot of little things wrong with her health, but never showed any signs of a heart problem. It was a complete shock to us her friends.

    She was 79, her husband died this spring while in the hospital for a broken shoulder. He got that infection that seems to now run rampant in hospitals.

    She was a believer and while she is sorely missed, at least she did not suffer a long drawn out illness that takes away your dignity then kills you anyway.

    Looking forward to a couple warmer days. Snow by Saturday.


  320. poohpity says:

    Happy, happy birthday Foreverblessed! May your day be filled with celebration, fun, laughter and love.

    Steve, so sad to hear of your loss. May the Lord’s comfort and peace surround her family and friends during this time of great grief.

    O soul are you weary and troubled
    No light in the darkness you see
    There’s light for a look at the Savior
    And life more abundant and free

    Turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in his wonderful face
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of his glory and grace

    His word shall not fail you he promised
    Believe him and all will be well
    Then go to a world that is dying
    His perfect salvation to tell

    Turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in his wonderful face
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of his glory and grace

    O soul are you weary and troubled
    No light in the darkness you see
    There’s light for a look at the Savior
    And life more abundant and free

    Turn your eyes upon Jesus
    Look full in his wonderful face
    And the things of earth will grow strangely dim
    In the light of his glory and grace

  321. foreverblessed says:

    My condolences to you and Glenna, Steve!

    Thank you for your well wishes, Pooh.
    The best birthday present I ever had was in 1989, November 9, when all these people were gathering in East Berlin, we watched it on tv. It was such a dazzling period: would the police shoot the people?? And on the West Berlin side people gathered to welcome them.
    I so desired to go to Berlin, but we had a son of 1, and no car.
    When I turned 50, we went to Berlin, to celebrate my birthday. There was nothing that reminded of November 9, 1989. Nothing.
    The reason was that the German Government did not want that date as a memorial for the fall of the Berlin wall, for fear of misuse of that date, by extremists groups.

    But the greatest freedom moment is not the Berlin wall, but was the day of the Cross.
    Well, the Days of the Cross, burial and Resurrection.
    Jesus gave one Sign: the sign of Jonah.

    I have to make a confession now: I took that sign literal: three days and three nights.
    And I wondered, why Jesus used these words, while He rose on the third day.
    I put this question on the shelf, and left it there.

    But finally, I get it: it is a Jewish saying: even when the timespan is only one part of the three days, a Jew will say: three days and three nights.
    So Jonah could have been in the big fish, part of the first day, the whole second day, and part of the third day, and still they would say: three days and three nights.

    Problem solved for me.
    All the while knowing that I am saved because Jesus was on the Cross, was buried and rose again.

  322. foreverblessed says:

    about Numerology, I found “rapture mystery revealed” pastor Sandy Armstrong (10/17/2021)

    Out of curiosity was having a look at it, and indeed, what strange things can be taken our of the bible by taking the numerical values of the Hebrew words.

    So indeed Pooh, we are not to be like that, but when I say something about John 6:66 out of fun, that is of another caliber.

    This Sandy Armstrong now says that the rapture will take place any time now these days, and on Feast of Trumpets 2028 Jesus will come back, the seven years Tribulation has started on the Feast of Trumpets 2021. It is just tiring to follow how he comes to those dates, but they sound to me, as not healthy.

    To me this also shows that taking a topic out of contects, “the rapture”, and using it as a Holy Cow, is not healthy:

    It is by the Cross of Christ that we are saved, whether we will go through the Tribulation or not.

    The friends of Daniel come to mind:
    Whether God will save us out of the fire or not, we will not bow to an idol. and I add: We will worship Jesus our Lord.

    The rapture as something to look for more than the fact that Jesus already lives in us NOW, because of a happening two thousand years ago: The Cross and burial and Resurrection of Jesus Christ.

    The greatest moment in history has already happened
    And it was Jesus on the Cross!!!

  323. Hugger4U says:

    Good morning.

    Happy Birthday Forever! Blessings to you from the Father of Heavenly Lights!

    Sorry for your loss Steve, may Glenna and family be comforted by the Holy Spirit.

    Street, I get you! :)

    Deb, you are the one that took the conversation into talking about dangerous things. We didn’t. It always interrupts the flow here when you do that. Just my observations from years of watching. Let’s grow here together and be unified in the faith. Love you! :)

    Good discernment Joyce!

    I lost a sister a couple days ago. She knew the Lord and is with Him now!

    Most of my family is also my spiritual family in varying stages of growth. It is easy to be a quick judge, harder to be gracious and patient. Practice the latter or you will not grow up. That would be a wasted life.
    Go the way of love. Don’t be a clanging cymbal.

    In His grace and Love,

  324. Beloved says:

    Good morning/evening all. Happy Birthday Forever May His blessings surround you!

    Steve my condolences to Glenna as I know how difficult to lose a close friend- especially as you’re older it’s harder to find more friends of that vintage.

    Great is thy faithfulness, new mercies I see. My first thought of the day. As ever, He rules and reigns over my heart 💜 Thinking about disruptive influences and how they force us to turn our eyes off of ourselves and onto Christ. Oh He’s so so good! The Great Mediator of people’s everywhere!

  325. Beloved says:

    Linda my condolences over the loss of your sister. So sad yet thankful she knew Jesus. Is the funeral soon? Will be praying.
    Blessings, Joyce

  326. Beloved says:

    May the LORD bless you and keep you, make His face to shine upon you and give you His peace.

  327. Beloved says:

    Salvation may be described as the blind receiving sight, the deaf receiving hearing, the dead receiving life; but we have not only received these blessings, we have received Christ Jesus himself. It is true that he gave us life from the dead. He gave us pardon of sin; he gave us imputed righteousness. These are all precious things, but we are not content with them; we have received Christ himself. The Son of God has been poured into us, and we have received him, and appropriated him. What a heartful Jesus must be, for heaven itself cannot contain him!

  328. SFDBWV says:

    Matt just got out of his shower and is doing his usual routine. When that is completed he and I are off to the doctors for a six month check up with his dermatologist.

    He likes the idea of eating out today…

    Thank you all for your condolences concerning our friend Judy. I also learned this morning of another friend who died last evening. Susan.

    Her son in law called me this morning to go and pick out a grave for her.

    So it will be a busy day tomorrow as I mark off for a tombstone for another couple and then a grave for Susan.

    This is the one thing I enjoy most about being Mayor of our little town. Helping people when they need it the most.

    Blessings to all today.


    By the way no one dies alone here there is almost always three…Who is next?

  329. Beloved says:

    Steve lol I remember an aunt who used to say the same thing- that tragedy struck in three’s! I remember waiting for the third “shoe to drop” as they say also. These colloquialisms and “old wives tales” are a hoot! (Funny in a silly way).

  330. poohpity says:

    Linda, thank you for the criticism of what I share but knowing that not many left on here are familiar with scripture and a topic comes up and the Lord brings to mind scripture about that topic and I share that, not what will tickle their ears, I am OK with sharing His word. I am not here to please or receive praise or flattery from people but to please God and I know that if people do not hear God’s word it is like going out into the world without any weapons to combat the deception of the enemy who is more than willing to deceive people. Eph 6:17 NLT

    I also want you to know I am so sad about the loss of your sister. Praying for the comfort and peace of God to fall over you and your family and friends.

  331. street says:

    “The chief danger that confronts the coming century will be religion without the Holy Ghost, Christianity without Christ, forgiveness without repentance, salvation without regeneration, politics without God, heaven without hell.”
    ― William Booth

    life without the Light of the World

  332. poohpity says:

    This last week our church was overcome by sorrows. The security guard’s wife after weeks in ICU, she was a new believer, went home to be with the Lord. Then our Pastor’s son-n-law who is also a Pastor in a town about a 45 minutes drive from us, in Globe was in a head on crash with a semitruck, with his 8 yr old daughter. He has two broken femurs and ankles, broken spine, broken clavicle and elbow and his daughter Sammy had a puncture in her bowels and a head injury. Prayers have been lifted up for them all around the country and his wife said they have seen several miracles in this process. Sammy has had one surgery the day she was airlifted to the Children’s hospital and her dad was airlifted to another hospital and has had three surgeries the last one was yesterday. So if you all feel lead please pray for this family. A long, hard recovery is ahead for them.

  333. Beloved says:

    Street I remember reading that a few weeks ago. And here we are. right in the middle of that prediction! Yet Gods faithfulness is stunning, isn’t it. How long oh LORD? The refiners fire is hot and persistent lately but the remains are leading into a wonderful Kingdom experience right here and now. I’m so blessed and joyful with the results. To God be the glory, amen
    P S I thank you for being here. You are dear and special to me.

  334. Beloved says:

    Romans 3:
    Love Fulfills God’s Requirements

    8 Owe nothing to anyone—except for your obligation to love one another. If you love your neighbor, you will fulfill the requirements of God’s law.

    9 For the commandments say, “You must not commit adultery. You must not murder. You must not steal. You must not covet.” These—and other such commandments—are summed up in this one commandment: “Love your neighbor as yourself.”

    10 Love does no wrong to others, so love fulfills the requirements of God’s law.

  335. foreverblessed says:

    Praying for the father and daughter, and for the widower, Pooh. May God comfort them and bless them greatly.

  336. foreverblessed says:

    I do hope Mart changes the topic some time, it’s kind of hard to scroll down 300 plus comments.
    But I am glad for his soothing input, seeking the nuance.
    And pray that God will bless hun, and comfort him.

  337. foreverblessed says:

    Bless hun= bless him

    What does this mean:
    The interpretation of scripture remains dead-locked?

    Intepretation of scripture:
    Some facts out of the history:
    Copernicus had difficulty with the Church around 1500:
    Psalm 104:5
    He set the earth on its foundations, it cannot be moved.
    The problem of the fixed earth!
    The religious people saw this Psalm as literal!
    The earth was fixed.

    Galileo had difficulty in 1615 with the Inquisition:
    Eccl 1:5
    The sun rises and the sun sets, and hurries back to where it rises.

    So the interpretation of this bible verse was the problem,
    Literally it says that the sun hurries back, so they thought the sun moved around the earth.
    .John Lennox has a speech on this topic. Five hundred years ago we would have disagreements about this bible verse.

    For nobody of us today, these bible verses are any problem, because of all the pictures of our Solar systems, we know now the earth is not the middle point of the universe, not even of our solar system.

    We know now that it is not meant literally: the sun does not hasten back to where it rises, no the earth turns around.

    The interpretation…

  338. poohpity says:

    Thank you forever for your prayers.

  339. SFDBWV says:

    In between things with Matt this morning. Was very tired earlier so did not take the time to write. Rested after Matt’s breakfast and my coffee and toast.

    In reading Foreverblessed’s comments this morning. I am reminded of the danger as well as the problem of interpreting Scripture from an intellectual view.

    Whereas it is without doubt how we interpret is dependent on our intelligence. Our ability to comprehend. Our acceptance of the things we already know.

    There is also that aspect of reading of things in Scripture that defy all we know and understand.

    It is said by those who understand such things that Isaac Newton was able to derive all of his mathematical theory from his reading and interpretation of Scripture.

    It becoming a source of frustration for those who have poured over his writings and notes only to discover what he wrote about and made notation is concerning Scripture. Not what they are looking for, more insight into physics.

    What Newton seen I have never seen, but what Newton did was take Scripture for what it said. He didn’t arrange it to say what he wanted to hear or already understood.

    I can elaborate, without creating disagreement by simply saying, I believe the things I do not understand.

    How can an axe head float? How could Enoch simply have been taken up out of this plane of existence into heaven? How can a man four days dead stand back up and walk out of his grave?

    How could have everything that exists come from nothing?

    The answers I have to such puzzles is simply because I believe nothing is impossible with God. Especially the things written in Scripture that don’t align with accepted science or even common sense.

    God has made a way, God will make a way, and that way has always been through the person of the Son, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah, the Christ.


  340. foreverblessed says:

    “Especially the things written in Scripture that don’t align with accepted science or even common sense.”

    The other way around is equally true: you cannot use scripture, to defy things found in nature:
    Saying that the earth is fixed, because the bible says so.

    The bible is about:
    “God will make a way, and that way has always been through the person of the Son, Jesus of Nazareth the Messiah, the Christ.”

    The Cross of Christ, through the Cross, man can come back into union with God.
    That’s the chore of the Bible

  341. SFDBWV says:

    Sorry Foreverblessed I don’t want to get into a dispute with you or anyone concerning this hot button issue of interpretation.

    However I can use Scripture to defy things found in nature.

    In nature death is final.

    However in Scripture we have not only Jesus but Elijah, as well as Peter bringing people back to life.

    I thought I addressed this in my comment about Lazarus being dead for four days and upon Jesus’ command rise up and walk out of his grave.

    I will agree that the whole chore of the Bible is to glorify The Son, through whom all things were made and through whom all things restored.

    The cross the mechanism used by God to accomplish His goal.


  342. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, you talked about miracles, but that was not my point. So we are talking alongside each other.

    So lets stick to what the essence is:
    ( And that is where we agree upon)
    The bible is about eternal life, through faith in the Son.
    It is not faith that gives eternal life, but faith is the connection to the fountain of eternal life, which is in the Son, the Truth, the Life, the Way, the Door, the Bread of heaven, the Vine, the Light of the world, the Resurrection.
    We will be a new creation, and it has already started inside us, as a seed, and that is growing, if we abide in Jesus.
    Abide…meaning to stay connected to Him, because we are already in Him, because of the Word of God, that says so, and we accept it in faith.
    Nature is not there for eternity, and neither is our human body.

  343. Beloved says:

    Yes, you talked about miracles, but that was not my point. So we are talking alongside each other.

    Forever I love the image of two people standing alongside each other talking. Wow. We can have our differences while respecting the other. Not having to always agree but listening with care! You are very good with this, I was thinking of this yesterday as you respond in difficult situations here. You’ve blessed me here, thank you. Joyce

  344. foreverblessed says:

    About Jesus Christ, born of a virgin,
    our old neighbor, that passed away last month, was saying:
    That’s just crab, Joseph and Mary were the parents! No virgin birth, Jesus was just human.
    So the miracle of the Incarnation of Jesus he could not believe.

    So I said to him:
    Well, that’s curious, you do not believe that the Spirit fathered Jesus? And then I tooke hold of the table, and yet you believe that the table is here.
    While it is a sheer miracle that our of nothing God spoke, and nature appeared:
    Atoms are a miracle in itself.

    Nothing can appear out of nothing, and yet you believe matter exists,
    But that the Spirit overpowered Mary and she conceived, that you cannot accept?!

    He had never thought about that.

  345. Hugger4U says:

    Prayed for your church, Deb.


  346. Beloved says:

    My daughter came for lunch today and as we were talking about the difficult toxic coworker in her office I thought of difficult people I used to work with also. Then I recalled that as Christians we can ask God to give His love to us for others. So glad we’re not left to our own selfish devices. My prayer tonight for God to help me love as per His perfect will and command for us. I was also reminded when I fail it does not affect my salvation because He chose me, knowing my sinfulness and brokenness. Grace LORD, for me and those You bring into my path. Amen

  347. foreverblessed says:

    The Grace of God!
    It is all from God!
    The world around us, sees is, wees how we have been changed through that Grace.
    I pray that Gods Grace is shown where Steve serves his community. And all of us.
    I am stille praying, especially for the girl, that Pooh mentioned, Sammy.
    Maybe that is, because my family was in an accident, when I was 4, I had head injury, and fore years and years I had heavy headaches.
    Even though that they put me in bed, laying down for a long time. And give the head rest.
    The good part of it was that my dad also had head injury, and we were together, laying in bed, (6 weeks or 3 months, my mother can’t recall how long it was) I was in a child’s bed, with highsides, in my parents bedroom.
    We sang songs together, and my dad would tell me stories, a sort of bonding times.

    I pray that God will heal the girls head, so she wont have the headaches. That’s God will bless this family, heal the father, and touch the heart of all people that help them.
    And Hugger prayed for their church, and I join in that prayer.
    It’s God Grace, He is the One who saves, who heals, who makes the lame walk, who gives eyes to the blind, who comforts those who mourn.

    The comfort, wherewith we have been comforted, may comfort others.
    says Paul, in the Corinthians.

  348. foreverblessed says:

    The world sees us…
    How we are, being changed through Grace.

    But thanks be to God, who always leads us in triumphal procession in Christ and through us spreads everywhere the fragrance of the knowledge of Him.
    2 Cor 2:14

  349. SFDBWV says:

    Just a little follow up to a few things…

    Joyce I have been burying people here in our cemetery for nearly 50 years and I can tell you that it is not superstition, no one dies alone here. That is there is almost never a time where only one person is buried or dies that it isn’t followed by more within days or a couple weeks.

    Actually with Susan’s death the total for a three week time span is 4 people having died.

    I met with Susan’s adult children yesterday afternoon at the cemetery in order for them to pick out a burial place for their mother. I believe they were very satisfied with their choice.

    According to them their mother wanted in the shade, off apart from her estranged, divorced first husband. So I made that happen. She isn’t too far from me and my family. I kind of like that myself.

    She will be buried Saturday

    Judy is to be cremated and buried at a later date.

    Bertie was buried alongside her son, both having died within a week of each other a couple weeks ago.

    So goes life in my world. It has always been my pleasure to help people, especially at such an emotional time. An opportunity to show love and compassion, which I believe to be the heart of God, at a time when people need it most.

    Foreverblessed if we believe the words we read in Scripture then the miracles are also part of what we come to believe.

    I never seen Jesus of Nazareth, yet I believe He lived, died and was resurrected.

    In fact our very existence is a miracle. As we read that God formed us from the dust of the earth and breathed life into us.

    Just because thousands of years ago the “experts” of Scriptural interpretation got it wrong, doesn’t change one word of Scripture.

    Personally I believe in a six day creation and do not believe in evolution.

    The three passions of my intellectual life are as follows; my faith, science, and history.

    Science always proves the existence and hand of God, and history always proves that mankind cannot govern himself, apart from God.

    Blessing for all today.


  350. poohpity says:

    Do old wives’ tales or superstitions or religious traditions or myths or science overtake faith? Hebrews 11:1; Romans 8:24; 2 Cor 4:18, 5:7

  351. poohpity says:

    Every “DAY” Christians suffer persecution for their faith. Everyday 13 Christians are killed because of their faith; everyday 12 churches or buildings are attacked; everyday 12 Christians are imprisoned or arrested for their faith and another 5 are abducted out of 50 countries around the world. This is from an annual report from “Open Doors Ministry”. The most dangerous countries to be a Christian are; North Korea, Somalia, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Libya. So take those numbers and multiply them by 364 days.

    So arguing over interpretation seems to me so trivial in comparison but of course those who live in western countries have to have something to suffer persecution from, so hence squabbles over interpretation, not from living out our faith but the negative behaviors shown in how we each understand the bible and how we react when someone disagrees. It is not our faith we are persecuted about but our pride.

  352. poohpity says:

    Christian’s from those countries would give their life for just one page from the bible while in western countries people have bibles that just fill a place on bookshelves gathering dust and could care less about reading just one page and if they do read one page they want to argue about it. Pretty superficial if you ask me. As far from living out one’s faith as it can get.

  353. Beloved says:

    Spurgeon November 11 Morning
    “Underneath are the everlasting arms.”

    Deuteronomy 33:27

    God—the eternal God—is himself our support at all times, and especially when we are sinking in deep trouble. There are seasons when the Christian sinks very low in humiliation. Under a deep sense of his great sinfulness, he is humbled before God till he scarcely knows how to pray, because he appears, in his own sight, so worthless. Well, child of God, remember that when thou art at thy worst and lowest, yet “underneath” thee “are everlasting arms.” Sin may drag thee ever so low, but Christ’s great atonement is still under all. You may have descended into the deeps, but you cannot have fallen so low as “the uttermost;” and to the uttermost he saves. Again, the Christian sometimes sinks very deeply in sore trial from without. Every earthly prop is cut away. What then? Still underneath him are “the everlasting arms.” He cannot fall so deep in distress and affliction but what the covenant grace of an ever-faithful God will still encircle him. The Christian may be sinking under trouble from within through fierce conflict, but even then he cannot be brought so low as to be beyond the reach of the “everlasting arms”—they are underneath him; and, while thus sustained, all Satan’s efforts to harm him avail nothing.

    This assurance of support is a comfort to any weary but earnest worker in the service of God. It implies a promise of strength for each day, grace for each need, and power for each duty. And, further, when death comes, the promise shall still hold good. When we stand in the midst of Jordan, we shall be able to say with David, “I will fear no evil, for thou art with me.” We shall descend into the grave, but we shall go no lower, for the eternal arms prevent our further fall. All through life, and at its close, we shall be upheld by the “everlasting arms”—arms that neither flag nor lose their strength, for “the everlasting God fainteth not, neither is weary.”

  354. Beloved says:

    It is Veterans Day here so say thank you Steve for your service to our country! May God bless you today and forever!

  355. poohpity says:

    Steve, I honor you today and thank you for your service to our country.

  356. foreverblessed says:

    May God bless alle those who have been in dire situations, in combat situations, especially Steve, here on this blog.

    In Europe the 11/11 is Remembrance day, the end of the first world war.
    But not in our country, as we were not part of that war. It is quite humiliating for me to hear that our country was very reluctant to take up the refugees out of Belgium. They did let in many, but at some point they said: now it is enough.
    Sorry God, forgive us, in Jesus’ Name.

    The everlasting arms, I really liked that devotion! Thanks for sharing.

  357. foreverblessed says:

    If we are in dire situations, in combat situations, it is Jesus Who is with us. (what does it matter how old the earth is?) Let Jesus save us, we believe in Him, and He has saved us! We are His.
    Abide in Him.

    Abide, that means we do not have to go in, we are already in Him.

  358. SFDBWV says:

    Of course you are right Foreverblessed, the age of the earth isn’t important in the final assessment of things.

    Thank all of you who thanked me for my service to our country. It was and is my pleasure to serve in whatever capacity I can for my fellow man.

    I have always been drawn to the study and story of WWI as well as the American Civil War. In reading the poems from such WWI soldiers as John McCrae (In Flanders Fields) and Joyce Kilmer (Trees) I am reminded of the nature of the men who stood up and went to fight in the “War to end all wars”.

    As well as the horrible loss of such talented and promising men.

    General Sherman warned the Congress of the United States prior to the south’s secession from the Union that “War is hell”.

    However the southern secessionists didn’t realize it until countless thousands of promising lives and their “cause” were lost, and General Sherman made his historic “march to the sea” and brought hell home to them.

    I am always left in amazement and tears at the description of the Union’s Irish Brigade at the battle of Fredericksburg Va. That these brave young men hunched over leading with their shoulders forward as if walking into a rain storm charging pell-mell into a hail of lead bullets without regard for their lives.

    The idea of throwing men at the enemy, a tactic of Napoleon and taught in war colleges across the globe.

    The stupidity of such carnage wasn’t realized until the wholesale mechanized killing of men seen in the fields of WWI.

    War is hell. When do you suppose mankind will realize it and stop taking up arms against their fellow man?

    Sadly, the truth is, never. Not until the King is on the throne and every knee bow to His authority.

    In the meantime, thank God for those who are willing to stand between us and harm’s way, without regard for their own suffering or lives.


  359. poohpity says:

    Steve asked, “When do you suppose mankind will realize it and stop taking up arms against their fellow man?” This song by Casting Crowns says it begins in each of our own hearts before we look at the hearts of others and we each have within each of us what seems to be a matter of taking up arms against each other no matter if guns are used but words are just as deadly.

    We want our coffee in the lobby
    We watch our worship on a screen
    We got a Rockstar preacher
    Who won’t wake us from our dreams
    We want our blessings in our pocket
    We keep our missions overseas
    But for the hurting in our cities
    Would we even cross the street?

    Huh but we wanna see the heart set free and the tyrants kneel
    The walls fall down and our land be healed
    But church if we want to see a change in the world out there

    It’s got to start right here
    It’s got to start right now
    Lord, I’m starting right here
    Lord, I’m starting right now

    I’m like the brother of the prodigal
    Who turned his nose and puffed his chest
    He didn’t run off like his brother
    But his soul was just as dead
    What if the church on Sunday
    Was still the church on Monday too?
    What if we came down from our towers
    And walked a mile in someone’s shoes?

    Hmm ’cause we wanna see the heart set free and the tyrants kneel
    The walls fall down and our land be healed
    But church if we want to see a change in the world out there

    It’s got to start right here
    It’s got to start right now
    Lord, I’m starting right here
    Lord, I’m starting right now

    We’re the people who are called by His name
    If we’ll surrender all our pride and turn from our ways
    He will hear from Heaven and forgive our sin
    He will heal our land but it starts right here
    We’re the people who are called by His name
    If we’ll surrender all our pride and turn from our ways
    He will hear from Heaven and forgive our sin
    He will heal our land

    It’s got to start right here
    It’s got to start right now
    Lord, I’m starting right here
    Lord, I’m starting right now
    It’s got to start right here
    It’s got to start right now
    Lord, I’m starting right here
    Lord, I’m starting right now

  360. poohpity says:

    Jesus said, “You have heard that our ancestors were told, ‘You must not murder. If you commit murder, you are subject to judgment.’ 22 But I say, if you are even angry with someone, you are subject to judgment! If you call someone an idiot, you are in danger of being brought before the court. And if you curse someone, you are in danger of the fires of hell.” That is even if you are in your own home.

    ““You have heard the law that says, ‘Love your neighbor’ and hate your enemy. 44 But I say, love your enemies! Pray for those who persecute you! 45 In that way, you will be acting as true children of your Father in heaven. For he gives his sunlight to both the evil and the good, and he sends rain on the just and the unjust alike. 46 If you love only those who love you, what reward is there for that? Even corrupt tax collectors do that much. 47 If you are kind only to your friends, how are you different from anyone else? Even pagans do that. 48 But you are to be perfect, even as your Father in heaven is perfect.”

  361. Hugger4U says:

    Good Morning!

    Thank you Steve for serving. It is much appreciated!
    My husband is a Vietnam veteran. He was a door gunner on the helicopters. I think I shared that years ago.

    We are a stubborn people. I’m so thankful that Jesus obeyed and made a way for us to be saved from our sin and able to enter into Heaven when our time comes. I will occupy until then and continue to steward what He has given, in wisdom and truth.

    Blessings to all.

    Glory and honor to our God!


  362. Beloved says:

    Wars and rumors of wars, indeed.
    Thinking how God caused wars under the old covenants overthrowing those in the way of Israel’s progression. Even flooding the whole earth was a war against tyranny. Wars will not cease until the Prince of peace comes on His white horse (Revelation 19:11-16) to judge righteously, (no matter how much people try to get along). With a sword in his mouth He comes! This has always been a favorite passage of mine. Why such wrath? It’s because “Holy Holy Holy, is the LORD God Almighty, who was and is and is to come” Revelation 4:8

  363. Beloved says:

    Linda my husband also served in Vietnam as a sniper and air conditioner services in Pleiku. He used to talk about how even children that came on base were often Viet Cong sent to do harm to the soldiers. I can’t imagine shooting children much less an adult. He never would talk about it though. Your husband had a very very dangerous job! Wow. I guess in the military you must do what your told. Steve would know about that. The sixties were turbulent weren’t they! I had friends who ran to Canada to avoid the draft. I’m glad they did.

    Aren’t we glad to be part of Gods kingdom now! May God bless His chosen today with love joy peace etc. For Jesus sake, Amen

  364. Beloved says:

    Wanted to mention when you order through amazon if you type in “smile.amazon” you can direct a donation to go ODB foundation. I don’t think many are aware of this as it says only 7 are directing to them.

    Mart if this is not a good idea for whatever reason let me know. Thanks.

  365. Beloved says:

    Amazon donates when you order.

  366. street says:

    side note… war famine pestilence and death. vengeance is Mine Says The LORD.

    thinking of God using Babylon to chasten Israel for disobedience. a people more wicked than Israel!?!?

    yet we know Job suffered much and is a righteous man.

    the good figs went into captivity.

    how unsearchable are Your Ways LORD.

    Jesus has life in Himself and that life is the life of God.
    may we be found in Him and His Word in us.

  367. street says:

    103 Praise the Lord, O my soul.
    With all that is within me, praise[b] his holy name.
    2 Praise the Lord, O my soul.
    Do not forget all his kind deeds.[c]
    3 He is the one who forgives all your sins,
    who heals all your diseases,[d]
    4 who delivers[e] your life from the Pit,[f]
    who crowns you with his loyal love and compassion,
    5 who satisfies your life with good things,[g]
    so your youth is renewed like an eagle’s.[h]
    6 The Lord does what is fair,
    and executes justice for all the oppressed.[i]
    7 The Lord revealed his faithful acts[j] to Moses,
    his deeds to the Israelites.
    8 The Lord is compassionate and merciful;
    he is patient[k] and demonstrates great loyal love.[l]
    9 He does not always accuse,
    and does not stay angry.[m]
    10 He does not deal with us as our sins deserve;[n]
    he does not repay us as our misdeeds deserve.[o]
    11 For as the skies are high above the earth,
    so his loyal love towers[p] over his faithful followers.[q]
    12 As far as the eastern horizon[r] is from the west,[s]
    so he removes the guilt of our rebellious actions[t] from us.
    13 As a father has compassion on his children,[u]
    so the Lord has compassion on his faithful followers.[v]
    14 For he knows what we are made of;[w]
    he realizes[x] we are made of clay.[y]
    15 A person’s life is like grass.[z]
    Like a flower in the field it flourishes,
    16 but when the hot wind[aa] blows, it disappears,
    and one can no longer even spot the place where it once grew.
    17 But the Lord continually shows loyal love to his faithful followers,[ab]
    and is faithful to their descendants,[ac]
    18 to those who keep his covenant,
    who are careful to obey his commands.[ad]
    19 The Lord has established his throne in heaven;
    his kingdom extends over everything.[ae]
    20 Praise the Lord, you angels of his,
    you powerful warriors who carry out his decrees
    and obey his orders.[af]
    21 Praise the Lord, all you warriors of his,[ag]
    you servants of his who carry out his desires.[ah]
    22 Praise the Lord, all that he has made,[ai]
    in all the regions[aj] of his kingdom.
    Praise the Lord, O my soul.

  368. street says:

    the previous Psalm is conected to David. Rightly so. yet it resenates with Joseph and Israel. A small obscure family living in world ruled by God’s grace and mercy Who will not let His love of others come to nothing. A/The God, Who delivers from such a great death. The God of Our Hope.

    Romans 1:7
    To all those loved by God in Rome, called to be saints: Grace and peace to you from God our Father and the Lord Jesus Christ! Romans 1:7

  369. foreverblessed says:

    That is a wonderful Psalm!

    18 “to those who keep His covenant

    and remember to obey His precepts.”

    Jesus is now our Lord.
    Just to tell you about my struggle, 25 years ago, when I would read this Psalm, and come to verse 18, I would get insecure, I would think, “see, God wants us to obey what He taught Moses”.

    It is maybe hard to imagine this, for those who know that we are under the New Covenant. But for me at that time, it would shake me. And that’s why I could not read the bible, only books of the New Covenant, that cited many verses of the bible, and always pointed to the Grace through Christ.

    However, that was 25 yearsabout ago, for three years, maybe three and a half years. Till about 21 years ago
    And this verse was one turning point:
    Deut 18:15,18
    “The Lord your God will raise up for you a Prophet like me from among your own brothers. You must listen to Him.”

    And since 21 years, or longer, I do read, and study in my whole bible, every day, and much too many hours a day, because my household duties are considered too low in esteem to me. I have to give more time in house keeping. That is a personal confession.

    On a side note: My husband did laugh and laugh when My former housegroup leader said about me, that I did not know the bible good enough. I asked him why he did have to laugh so much?
    He said: “I find it very very funny when people say that you do not know the bible, I see you reading in it, every day!”
    And I am thankful that my husband is so lenient to me, he could be upset, because of the house, that is not as neat as his mothers house was.

    “You must listen to Him”

    Within the Old Convenant is a clausule:
    Listen to Him.

    What He was teaching supersedes the Law of Moses.

    So, now I study, what Jesus taught.
    That is muche more important than the books of Moses. To me that is.
    All though I do read the whole bible, but the Living Word is the Spirit of Christ within me.
    Jesus did not only give His spoken words, He is also the Spirit Power to make them real in me.

  370. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed you are a wonderful woman and your husband blessed to share his life with you.

    Often I say here that I love honesty. I love your honest confession of your heart and struggles.

    Any Christian who says they don’t struggle with the written Words of Scripture whether in the Books of Moses, the Prophets, the Books of wisdom, and especially the Books of the New Testament is not being honest at all.

    Quoting Scripture is not knowing Scripture in spite of how some may see it.

    I assure you we all struggle with why questions as well as disappointments and the dark and dire feeling of being forsaken.

    A snowy morning at 29 degrees f.

    My Pastor showed up this morning with a loaf of bread…I gave him a jar of apple butter my cousin brought me last week.

    His gift symbolic, mine just a gift.


  371. Beloved says:

    To me the ongoing challenge is to read the Old Testament through Gods eyes of love, grace and mercy. Asking God often to open my eyes to see Him as He really is. So blessed to be one of His redeemed. Blessings all!

  372. Hugger4U says:

    Struggles are for our growth! They don’t feel good but I understand they are used for a purpose that God has planned way ahead of time as we know it. Thankful!!!

    I struggled for a few days this last week. It was not fun but I am thankful that I walked through and pressed through with Him and on the other side now and boy! What an amazing faith we have been given! Just grateful for the clarity today and the coming new mercies of tomorrow!! Praise the Lord :) Faith, struggles are for strengthening our faith, too.

    Struggles are coming to know something more about God. So much to be taught and walked out in our lives.

    Side note…I was instructed to do a study on Glory last month and just now getting to it. It is wonderful!

    Enjoy the present with Jesus and walk in His Light in faith, hope and love.


  373. Beloved says:

    Linda I’ve been meditating on Gods holiness. The deeper I go the more I find out just how really wretched a sinner I was, and still can be if I’m not putting Him first in my thoughts every day. Thinking about how God upholds me even when I forget or fail is more mercy than I can fathom. Nothing to the cross I bring. Nothing. He’s Everything.

    I’m guessing glory and holiness are related if not intertwined. Not sure. Glory is Gods alone, only God is holy. Be interesting to hear more of your study. Blessings, Joyce

  374. Hugger4U says:

    Good Morning!

    One verse that stuck out so far in studying ‘Glory’.

    Proverbs 19:11 (NIV)

    A person’s wisdom yields patience; it is to one’s glory to overlook an offense.

    The discretion of a man deferreth his anger; and it is his glory to pass over a transgression. KJV

    Glory is also weighty.


    Enjoy the Lord today.

    In His Love,

  375. SFDBWV says:

    Linda that is one of those startling realizations I learned long ago that “glory” referred to in Scripture means “weight”.

    So it is not flattery applied to God, but the weight of all the sins of the world, the eternal responsibility of all the souls, the welfare and wellbeing of all His children, the pain and heartache of the suffering all endure, the very existence of all the universe that is applied to Him.

    “To God be the glory”

    Thank you Linda for the reminder.


  376. foreverblessed says:

    Jesus replied, “the hour has come for the Son of Man to be glorified”
    John 12:23

  377. Beloved says:

    Glory of the Father
    Romans 6:4 We were buried therefore with him by baptism into death, in order that, just as Christ was raised from the dead by the glory of the Father, we too might walk in newness of life.

  378. Beloved says:

    Matthew 18:32
    Then his master summoned him and said to him, ‘You wicked servant! I forgave you all that debt because you pleaded with me.

    It is to the glory of God that we forgive those who trespass against us.

  379. Beloved says:

    “The most common use of the word “glory” in the Bible is to describe the splendor, holiness and majesty of God. Glory, in this sense, is often associated with a person experiencing God’s presence in a tangible way. When used this way, the word glory conveys a sense of heavy dignity.” Quote

    Heavy dignity, weightiness!

  380. foreverblessed says:

    When was the Son of Man glorified?
    It would seem that it was when Jesus was taken up into heaven.
    John 7:39

    But the following verse says this:
    John 13:31
    Threfore, when he was gone out, Jesus said, Now is the Son of man glorified, and God is glorified in him…

    At the start of His Passion Jesus is glorified.

    The Passion is tightly connected to the Glory.

  381. Beloved says:

    ’John 13: 34A new commandment I give to you, that you love one another: just as I have loved you, you also are to love one another. 35 I By this all people will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”

    In the same chapter Jesus washed the disciples feet before exposing Judas. Interesting that He calls them “little children” and describes himself as the Son of Man. Human to human he relates the new commandment to love one another. I recall how he showed them by going willingly to die. Father forgive them. The greatest words ever spoken, I believe.

    I’ve been thinking about this new commandment all day and how forgiving others is loving others. Confessing and repenting today as I follow Jesus. It’s been an exhausting day. But God is glorified in these actions.

  382. Hugger4U says:

    It would seem that when we obey the Lord and exhibit His character, walking in Spirit and Truth that is when we reflect His Glory.

    Just a cursory observation from Proverbs 19:11. I have yet to dig deeper as there are a lot of verses on GLORY. KJV 538 times mentions GLORY! NIV is less than 300.

    All Glory to God!

  383. Beloved says:

    Linda I have a Bible and devotional in each of my 3 rooms and found this as I looked at a different one today that sums up your statement I think.

    Jeremiah 9:23-24 NKJV

    Thus says the LORD: “Let not the wise man glory in his wisdom, Let not the mighty man glory in his might, Nor let the rich man glory in his riches; But let him who glories glory in this, That he understands and knows Me, That I am the LORD, exercising lovingkindness, judgment, and righteousness in the earth. For in these I delight,” says the LORD.

    Wow! To glory that we understand and know God as LORD! Humility’s reward? Of course. His Name is Wonderful and He delights in our understanding of who He is and our devotion to Him. Sola deo Gloria Amen!

  384. Hugger4U says:

    Yes, Joyce, it isn’t our glory. We are reflecting His and we give the glory to Him because it isn’t ours.

    It’s because the Holy Spirit lives in us is the reason we CAN reflect His glory when we walk by the Spirit.

    No flesh can glory in His presence.

    All Glory to God!

  385. Beloved says:

    Please pray for me. I have an appointment with the eye doctor at 2:45 tomorrow and he scares me! Really. But the glasses he prescribed don’t work for me so have to see him. He’s a big man and very sarcastic. Very tempted to cancel but really need these glasses fixed or replaced. Thank you

  386. Beloved says:


    Romans 2:7-10
    King James Version
    7 To them who by patient continuance in well doing seek for glory and honour and immortality, eternal life:

    8 But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,

    9 Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man that doeth evil, of the Jew first, and also of the Gentile;

    10 But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:

  387. foreverblessed says:

    The word is English, and it is a translation.
    You as English speaking people may not be so aware, but if you want to do a study on a word, you do a study on a translated word.

    Now this comment is only for those who are interested in Word studies, otherwise you just skip it.

    The Concordance shows the original Hebrew words.
    The word Glory in Proverbs 19:11 is translated from:
    That is number 8597 Strong’s Concordance.

    It is translated into beauty or glory.
    And occurs 51 times in the OT.

    Now the word Tipharah is not used in Exodus 33:18,
    Where Moses asks God
    “Now, show me Your glory”.

    That Glory, is translated from the Hebrew word:
    Number 3519 in Strong’s Concordance
    And that is derived
    from kabad; properly, weight, but only figuratively in a good sense, splendor or copiousness — glorious(-ly), glory, honour(-able)

    That word is used 200 times.
    And mostly for the glory of God.

    The word for glory in Proverbs 19:11 is mostly translated into beauty, and referring to men, but that is a very rough division.

    Opening up these Strong words, 3519 and 8597 gives two beautiful lists of scriptures!
    Nowadays it is so much easier to see all the references, on biblehub.
    It was time consuming to open up scripture by scripture, from the Strong’s Concordance.

  388. foreverblessed says:

    The glory of the man that overlooks an insult might be a small resemblance over our great God,
    Micah 7:2
    Who is a God like You,
    who pardons sin and forgives transgression
    of the remnant of his inheritance.
    You do not stay angry for ever
    but delight to show mercy.
    You will again have compassion on us,
    You will tread our sins underfoot
    and hurl all our iniquities into the depths of the sea.

  389. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, I am praying for you! And praying intercessory prayer for this man, may God have mercy on him, like He has had on us.

  390. foreverblessed says:

    In use of words:

    Prov 19:11
    A man’s wisdom gives him patience,
    It is to his glory to overlook an offence.
    Glory=tiphara in Hebrew. Strong 8597

    Prov 20:3
    It is to a man’s honour to avoid strife,
    but every fool is quick to quarrel (showing tour teeth).

    Honour=Kabowd in Hebrew, Strong 3519
    The same word as in Exodus 33:18
    “Show me Your glory”

  391. SFDBWV says:

    Sorry I am amused at Foreverblessed explanation of we English speaking people looking at the interpretation of “glory” as well as hers.

    This is the crux of Mart’s topic…Interpretation.

    Isn’t it also what all the fuss was about with regards to Martin Luther and having the Bible printed into the native language of whatever people spoke and understood?

    Rome wasn’t the only “church” to burn people alive for entertaining the thought of interpretation apart from Latin or Greek or Hebrew.

    The newly formed “Church of England” was so dedicated to such cruelty that several fathers in a small town in England were burned to death for simply reciting the Lords Prayer to their children in English.

    And for Tyndale being burned alive wasn’t enough, a wire was placed around his neck and a hole through the “post” he was tied to so that as he burned he was also chocked to maximize his suffering.

    It kind of brings to light the seriousness of how interpretation is viewed, doesn’t it.

    For some, I am sure, when confronted with people who disagree with them the idea of a tortured death is still a desire in their hearts.

    In my opinion an answer to an Eric Clapton song is that, yes there are tears in heaven…

    A snowy day yesterday, but not bad. A wet cold morning this morning at 28 degrees f.


  392. poohpity says:

    This just my take but there is a vast difference between interpretation of scripture and translating the bible into every language so that everyone can have the pleasure of reading it for themselves in their own language.

    The journey of the bible from being used to oppress a people by religious leaders hence different religions were started to stop the common people from having the book to read for themselves compared to the freedom from religions to have a personal relationship with the Lord which is what Martin Luther’s reformation was about, a bible in the hands of everyday Christians not just in hand of religious leaders who wanted the people to go through them not straight to the Lord themselves.

  393. poohpity says:

    Seems to me that anyone can interpret scripture to mean what they want it to mean because obviously they know most have never taken the time to fill their minds with the words of the Lord(truth) so they can say anything and people will believe them. For instance they can quote Eric Clapton, etc. and make it sound as if it comes from the Lord and is the Gospel but in reality it is not truth as told by the Truth Himself. Rev 21:4

    I do not understand why there are problems found in quoting scripture but none found in quoting secular people who may not even know the Lord?!?

  394. Hugger4U says:

    Forever, that is exactly what I’ve been doing and it is a long process but worth the effort to get to the nuggets of God’s WORD. I enjoy it very much and pray often for His guidance.

    Happy hunting in the Word today. :)

    The Lord blesses those who seek Him. Blessed be the Lord!

  395. poohpity says:

    Seems to me if anyone can read scripture and come away with the fact that God so loved the world that He sent His only Son into the world to save it from an eternal separation from God but to bring us close when we have the humility to realize our sinful state that Jesus did not come to condemn the world but to save it then interpretation from the Holy Spirit has reached it’s goal. But of course one can get caught up in weeds and take the focus off of that then the enemy has reached his goal.

  396. street says:

    When was the Son of Man glorified?
    It would seem that it was when Jesus was taken up into heaven.
    John 7:39

    seems to me Jesus was lifted up three times.

    The Crucifixion

    The Resurrection

    The Ascension

    if I be lifted up I will draw all men to Myself.

    A34 Then Peter started speaking:[cl] “I now truly understand that God does not show favoritism in dealing with people,[cm] 35 but in every nation[cn] the person who fears him[co] and does what is right[cp] is welcomed before him. 36 You know[cq] the message[cr] he sent to the people[cs] of Israel, proclaiming the good news of peace[ct] through[cu] Jesus Christ[cv] (he is Lord[cw] of all)— 37 you know what happened throughout Judea, beginning from Galilee after the baptism that John announced:[cx] 38 with respect to Jesus from Nazareth,[cy] that[cz] God anointed him with the Holy Spirit and with power. He[da] went around doing good and healing all who were oppressed by the devil,[db] because God was with him.[dc] 39 We[dd] are witnesses of all the things he did both in Judea[de] and in Jerusalem. They[df] killed him by hanging him on a tree,[dg] 40 but[dh] God raised him up on the third day and caused him to be seen,[di] 41 not by all the people, but by us, the witnesses God had already chosen,[dj] who ate and drank[dk] with him after he rose from the dead. 42 He[dl] commanded us to preach to the people and to warn[dm] them[dn] that he is the one[do] appointed[dp] by God as judge[dq] of the living and the dead. 43 About him all the prophets testify,[dr] that everyone who believes in him receives forgiveness of sins[ds] through his name.”

    20 “I am not praying[d] only on their behalf, but also on behalf of those who believe[e] in me through their testimony,[f] 21 that they will all be one, just as you, Father, are in me and I am in you. I pray[g] that they will be in us, so that the world will believe that you sent me. John 17

  397. street says:

    Seems to me if anyone can read scripture and come away with the fact

    not really, God has to regenerate their heart. till then the darkness continues.

    the light shines out of darkness and the darkness comprehends it not.

    The Glory is His, always Is. never changes

    sin stealing Gods Glory, through deceit and lying.

    restored by faith in the Truth, Word of God.

    faith comes by hearing and hear by the Word of God.

    creation speaks but we interpret it and judge so poorly. light and life required.

    thinking of human court and the court of public opinion.

    futility comes to mind and a promise/ know that all things work together for good for those who love God, who are called according to his purpose,

  398. Beloved says:

    Weight of glory – Steve brought this up yesterday. CS Lewis wrote a book by the same name.

    New International Version
    For our light and momentary troubles are achieving for us an eternal glory that far outweighs them all.

    New Living Translation
    For our present troubles are small and won’t last very long. Yet they produce for us a glory that vastly outweighs them and will last forever!

    English Standard Version
    For this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison,

    Berean Study Bible
    For our light and momentary affliction is producing for us an eternal glory that is far beyond comparison.

    Berean Literal Bible
    For the momentary lightness of our affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory, far surpassing to excessiveness.

    King James Bible
    For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, worketh for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory;

    New King James Version
    For our light affliction, which is but for a moment, is working for us a far more exceeding and eternal weight of glory,

    New American Standard Bible
    For our momentary, light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison,

    NASB 1995
    For momentary, light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison,

    NASB 1977
    For momentary, light affliction is producing for us an eternal weight of glory far beyond all comparison,

    Amplified Bible
    For our momentary, light distress [this passing trouble] is producing for us an eternal weight of glory [a fullness] beyond all measure [surpassing all comparisons, a transcendent splendor and an endless blessedness]!

  399. Beloved says:

    Thinking this momentary distress over Biblical interpretation is nothing compared with eternity in glory!

  400. Beloved says:

    About God having to regenerate a heart, the Ethiopian Eunuch comes to mind. He had the scriptures (OT) yet didn’t understand until God sent -I forget which Apostle- to explain so he could come to a saving knowledge of Jesus. Light is required and in us there is only darkness.

    I think I shared this long ago but I knew a pastor who didn’t get saved until he was stricken with cancer. It was continual prayers by a handful of believers that God heard and answered.
    (On a side note I also was one of the parishioners who was saved through their prayers. Even though I had prayed with Billy Graham I really didn’t know Jesus until He showed up one day and revealed Himself to me and broke my heart!)

    Back to the pastor, with Years of seminary and Bible study with Greek and Hebrew he didn’t see Jesus! He used a lot of new age thinking to interpret who God was.
    Unfortunately it’s quite prevalent today, all over the world.

  401. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, doing a study on Hebrew and Greek, and yet not see Jesus, and His work of salvation.

    Proverbs 19:11
    The pulpit commentary says this:

    “Here it is discretion or prudence that makes a man patient and forgiving; elsewhere the same effect is attributed to love (Proverbs 10:12; Proverbs 17:9). The Septuagint Version is hard to understand: Τὸ δὲ καύχημα αὐτοῦ ἐπέρχεται παρανόμοις, “And his glorying cometh on the transgressors;

    So far the Pulpit Commentary.

    And His glorying cometh on the transgressors…
    A translation of the Septuagint of Proverbs 19:12, 17:9

    This makes me think again about the glory of Jesus, did it start when Jude stood up to betray Him?
    Was it the Passion of Jesus, the glorying that cometh upon the transgressors?

    We all were transgressors, but the Cross of Jesus saved is.
    “The glorying of Jesus came upon us”, and we were redeemed, made righteous in His sight.
    It is all the Grace of God.
    Underserved, but because God loves us so much, because of His love, He gave His Son..

  402. Beloved says:

    Amen Forever!

  403. street says:

    Glory. worth or value.

    we do things because we find worth or value in doing.

    sin is empty and lifeless, it’s ends in death.

    God is love, and the greatest motive is incorruptible love.

    fruit of the Spirit of God.

  404. Beloved says:

    I’ve never heard “incorruptible love” before. Brings a warm flood of emotion like the Balm of Gilead. Jesus. I’ve had a rough week with some neighbors but the surety of Gods love makes it all worthwhile. Wonder what’s next? Whatever, I can count it all joy for the surpassing knowledge of Christ Jesus who loves me and gave Himself for me to know Him. It will be worth it all, when we see Jesus; as the song goes. One look from His dear face, etc etc.

  405. Beloved says:

    Here’s one for you, Bubbles. Love you and think of you often.

    1. Sometimes the day seems long,
    Our trials hard to bear.
    We´re tempted to complain,
    to murmur and despair.
    But Christ will soon appear
    to catch his bride away!
    All tears forever over
    in God’s eternal day!

    It will be worth it all
    when we see Jesus!
    Life’s trials will seem so small
    when we see Christ.
    One glimpse of his dear face,
    all sorrow will erase.
    So, bravely run the race
    till we see Christ.

    2. At times the sky seems dark,
    with not a ray of light;
    We’re tossed and driven on,
    no human help in sight.
    But there is One in heaven,
    Who knows our deepest care;
    Let Jesus solve your problems,
    just go to him in prayer.

  406. Beloved says:

    The Lord is my portion, says my soul.
    Lamentations 3:24
    Spurgeon Morning and Evening

    It does not say, “The Lord is partly my portion,” nor “The Lord is in my portion”; but He Himself makes up the sum total of my soul’s inheritance. Within the circumference of that circle lies all that we possess or desire.

    The Lord is my portion. Not His grace merely, nor His love, nor His covenant, but Jehovah Himself. He has chosen us for His portion, and we have chosen Him for ours.

    It is true that the Lord must first choose our inheritance for us, or else we will never choose it for ourselves; but if we are really called according to the purpose of electing love, we can sing-

    Lov’d of my God for Him again
    With love intense I burn;
    Chosen of Him ere time began,
    I choose Him in return.

    The Lord is our all-sufficient portion. God fills Himself; and if God is all-sufficient in Himself, He must be all-sufficient for us. It is not easy to satisfy man’s desires. When he dreams that he is satisfied, instantly he wakes to the perception that there is still something more, and his longings remain unfulfilled.

    But for the believer all that we can wish for is to be found in our divine portion, so that we ask, “Whom have I in heaven but you? And there is nothing on earth that I desire besides you.”1 We can then delight ourselves in the Lord who allows us to drink of the river of His pleasures.

    Our faith stretches her wings and soars like an eagle into the heaven of divine love, her proper dwelling-place. “The lines have fallen for me in pleasant places; indeed, I have a beautiful inheritance.”2 Let us rejoice in the Lord always; let us show the world that we are a happy and a blessed people and cause them to exclaim, “Let us go with you, for we have heard that God is with you.”

    1 Psalm 73:25 2 Psalm 16:6

  407. poohpity says:

    It seems to me no one can be a good teacher until they have been a good student, no one can be a good leader until they have learned how to follow, no one can be a good master until they have learned to be a servant.

    In the Lord’s prayer it says about God, “your will be done on earth as it is in heaven” sadly it seems to me many are stuck on wanting their will to be done not God’s. Not only their own will but also their own understanding, in their own time and in their own way. People want to be in control even if that control leads people over a cliff and into ruin. The blind leading the blind, the deaf leading the deaf, the broken leading the broken.

    Blessed are those who hunger and thirst for righteousness for they will be satisfied. Blessed are those who are poor in spirit and humble for they will see the Kingdom of God.

  408. poohpity says:

    Our Father, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name; thy kingdom come; thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread; and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us; and lead us not into temptation, but deliver us from evil. For thine is the kingdom, the power and the Glory for ever and ever Amen.

  409. Beloved says:

    Thinking again of Gods glory and read this from Spurgeon:

    November 17 Morning
    “To whom be glory forever. Amen”

    Romans 11:36

    “To whom be glory forever.” This should be the single desire of the Christian. All other wishes must be subservient and tributary to this one.

  410. Beloved says:

    We all battle the flesh that wants its own way. Sometimes my flesh wins but I remember that Jesus knew and knows all about me and loves me still! In Christ mercy is new daily. No one walks perfectly here. No one but Jesus did. We follow a wonderful Savior!

  411. street says:


    flesh and blood can not inherit The Kingdom of Heaven.

    living sacrifice Romans 12:1

    dead in transgressions

    made alive in Christ Jesus

    thinking of the Temple that sanctifies the offering on the alter.

    thinking of a small sack lunch and two mites.

    God sanctifying the offering.


    how long LORD?

    till the works of Man are destroyed.

  412. Beloved says:

    ‘Yield yourselves unto God, and your bodies as instruments of righteousness unto Him.’ So, then, first of all, we must be priests by our inward consecration, and then, since ‘a priest must have somewhat to offer,’ we must bring the outward life and lay it upon His altar. Maclaren

    How is this possible? Romans 12:2 only with a mind that has been renewed.

  413. foreverblessed says:

    Our choir is rehearsing a Christmas Oratorium,
    “Noël”, from Saint Saens
    Part 6 is called: Quare fremuerunt gentes
    Taken out of Psalm 2:1
    Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain?
    The lyrics are in Latin, it is an intriguing song, with agressive music, and the lyrics go like: “why”
    why why in the beginning of the song, singing very aggressively, but then after a while: why” even softer “why”
    And then the music changes into a lovely melody, and starts the singing very softly:

    “Gloria Patri
    Gloria Filio
    Gloria Spiritui Sancto”

    Glory, the Glory of the Godhead, comes over the transgressors
    We need not despair when we look to the world, or look inside ourselves, God has given Salvation!

  414. foreverblessed says:

    ODB today, about us being broken, and God’s Grace restoring us.
    One comment says this:

    “It’s broken. So are we!” I love it! What a wonderful Savior we have in Jesus who not only heals our brokenness but frees us to love others, even if they’ve hurt us, because we know they’re broken too, and we want them to know the love of Jesus that we found.

    So far the comment.
    I pray for this Grace of God, to be able to say yes to this. To bring Glory to God, in this way.

    Rom 15:5-7

    I was feeling sick, head problem, the last couple of days. Then I struggle with negativity, everything looks gloomy. It is a real struggle to praise God the Father the Son and Spirit.
    I tell God, I want to sing praises, please help me! I started praying for others especially for the refugees who were trapped at the border of Poland. Oh, how I prayed for them. In the freezing cold.
    Last night I heard the good news that they were taken to a warm shelter, where they get food and drinks, with buss. (Only those who choose to stay at the border, remained, I still pray for them)
    Then I prayed for the students in my city, student pastorate has been cancelled for lack of money. This morning I heard that there is a new student pastor, who startend to work here.
    I was very thankful for that good news.
    God is working, even if I don’t see it. But sometimes He gives a little hint.

    Intercessory prayer..
    How great a power God gives to it.

  415. street says:

    I wonder if John the Baptist ever went to seminary?

    it seems the 12 did. they did not choose Him. He chose them.

    44 No one can come to Me unless the Father who sent Me draws him; and I will raise him up on the last day. 45 It is written in the Prophets: ‘And they shall all be taught of God.’ Everyone who has heard and learned from the Father, comes to Me. 46 Not that anyone has seen the Father, except the One who is from God; He has seen the Father.

  416. foreverblessed says:

    Good morning everyone on this blog.
    May God bless you today again, in all you are and for those around you.
    Psalm 93:1-5

  417. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Foreverblessed; may your blessing offered to me and mine be multiplied many times for you and your loved ones.

    Reading in a newspaper recently I seen a story about a new movie out by Max McLean about the life of C.S. Lewis titled “The Most Reluctant Convert”. In reading the news article I was amused at reading the author of the article’s (Dustin Bass) favorite C.S. Lewis quote.

    “If I find in myself a desire that no experience in this world can satisfy, the most probable explanation is I was made for another world.”

    Why amused? Because I have felt like I don’t belong to this world my entire life.

    I can actually remember as far back in my memory as a small (very small) child, looking up into the star filled sky at night and feeling “homesick”.

    As I matured into a more adult thinking posture it always seemed odd that I felt that way. Until I maturely realized why.

    The world around us is changing in a more sinister and darker nature and that feeling that we don’t belong more and more obvious all the clearer.

    I do hope for many things, I pray for many things, and I do pray that my family is snatched away soon and taken home and me with them.

    I didn’t get to see the lunar eclipse the other night, it snowed when the eclipse was occurring, but cleared of to a brutally cold and windy sunrise.

    15 degrees f this morning.


  418. Beloved says:

    Good morning all! Our hope and strength comes from Jesus. I’ve been listening to Wurmbrand lately, his message of carrying Jesus into the torture chambers are convicting and helpful. He truly speaks of why we are here still. Live for God there’s purpose, live for myself there’s gloom and despair. That’s my take anyway. Seems to me we are made (reborn) for a far far better World. Bless Jesus today and see where He takes you!

  419. Hugger4U says:

    Good morning and thank you for the blessings!

    May Jesus, our constant friend, be your portion today and every day!

    First frost on the Oregon coast this morning. Still seeing a pair of hummingbirds coming to the feeder. We do have resident hummers that stay all year long because of our climate. Some people say you shouldn’t keep a feeder out all year that would force them to migrate like they should. I will continue to keep a feeder ready.

    I sense the same about this world is not my home but only stewarding for whatever time the Lord has appointed for me to stay. Thank the Lord for His wisdom in all things.

    Praying about the upcoming Supreme Court hearing on the Heartbeat Law.

    I follow news that comes from IFA, Intercessors For America. Very good source for news and prayer spotlights for our nation.

    Going to be a clear, beautiful day. Walking in the crisp mornings is exhilarating!

    Have a Spirit filled day!

  420. Beloved says:


  421. SFDBWV says:

    Seen of the rioting in the Netherlands. Hoping all is well for you and yours Foreverblessed.


  422. Beloved says:

    I Peter1
    May grace and peace be multiplied to you. Dear bloggers!

    Such a wonderful passage from Peter.
    Born again to a living hope!

  423. Beloved says:

    My Utmost is very good today!

  424. poohpity says:

    Seems to me that when the “Truth Be Told” song has such a great message to hear and admit to.

    Lie number one you’re supposed to have it all together
    And when they ask how you’re doing
    Just smile and tell them, “Never better”

    Lie number 2 everybody’s life is perfect except yours
    So keep your messes and your wounds
    And your secrets safe with you behind closed doors

    Truth be told
    The truth is rarely told, now

    I say I’m fine, yeah I’m fine oh I’m fine, hey I’m fine but I’m not
    I’m broken
    And when it’s out of control I say it’s under control but it’s not
    And you know it
    I don’t know why it’s so hard to admit it
    When being honest is the only way to fix it
    There’s no failure, no fall
    There’s no sin you don’t already know
    So let the truth be told

    There’s a sign on the door, says, “Come as you are” but I doubt it
    ‘Cause if we lived like it was true, every Sunday morning pews would be crowded
    But didn’t you say the church should look more like a hospital
    A safe place for the sick, the sinner and the scarred and the prodigals
    Like me

    Well truth be told
    The truth is rarely told
    Oh am I the only one who says

    I’m fine, yeah I’m fine oh I’m fine, hey I’m fine but I’m not
    I’m broken
    And when it’s out of control I say it’s under control but it’s not
    And you know it
    I don’t know why it’s so hard to admit it
    When being honest is the only way to fix it
    There’s no failure, no fall
    There’s no sin you don’t already know
    So let the truth be told

    Can I really stand here unashamed
    Knowin’ that your love for me won’t change?
    Oh God if that’s really true
    Then let the truth be told

    I say I’m fine, yeah I’m fine oh I’m fine, hey I’m fine but I’m not
    I’m broken
    And when it’s out of control I say it’s under control but it’s not
    And you know it

    I don’t know why it’s so hard to admit it
    When being honest is the only way to fix it
    There’s no failure, no fall
    There’s no sin you don’t already know
    Yeah I know

    There’s no failure, no fall
    There’s no sin you don’t already know
    So let the truth be told

  425. street says:

    5 For we know that if our [a]earthly tent which is our house is torn down, we have a building from God, a house not made by hands, eternal in the heavens. 2 For indeed, in this tent we groan, longing to be clothed with our [b]dwelling from heaven, 3 since in fact after putting it on, we will not be found naked. 4 For indeed, we who are in this tent groan, being burdened, because we do not want to be unclothed but to be clothed, so that what is mortal will be swallowed up by life. 5 Now He who prepared us for this very purpose is God, who gave us the Spirit as a [c]pledge.

    in regard to not being home yet.

  426. Beloved says:

    So let the truth be told

    I heard a pastor say that feelings aren’t truth, God is. Although we groan with burdens daily it’s the Spirit that gives me life and the promise I look forward to. Not home yet, indeed. Feeling bad myself today, thank you God, with no one to share with but it’s ok as feelings change but God doesn’t. I hear the sound of dross dripping off.

  427. Beloved says:

    In his time, in his time
    He makes all things beautiful
    In his time

    Lord please show me everyday
    As you’re teaching me your way
    That you do just what you say
    In your time

    In your time, in your time
    You make all things beautiful
    In your time

    Lord my life to you I bring
    May each song I have to sing
    Be to you a lovely thing
    In your time

  428. foreverblessed says:

    This morning the sky is blues, and the sun shines, a new day.
    Jesus is our Savior today again.
    His blood is for is forgiveness, His Body is the veil through which we can go into the holy of holies.

    And since we have a great priest over the house of God, let us draw near to God with a sincere heart in full assurance of faith, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a quilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water.

    Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for He who promised is faithful.
    Hebrews 10:19-23

  429. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks for the concern Steve, in our city it was a peaceful march, with music and DJ’S.
    People can do strange things, like the guy who drove into that crowd, in Wisconsin. It is a miracle only 5 died.

    What worries me is the high infection rate, and the hospitals are filling up again.
    But…my worries, I should lay them at the altar, and stay there till I receive the peace of Jesus in my heart.
    The Cross. The Great Exchange!

  430. foreverblessed says:

    On ODB today, the theme is worship in Spirit and in Truth, anywhere, where we are.
    We can enter the Holy of holies.

    Our son is working in Tel Aviv for 6 weeks.
    And I was looking up the air tickets from Amsterdam to Tel Aviv, visiting him, and then going together to Jerusalem by train. Going to the Mount of Olives, the garden of Gethasemane, the Via Dolorosa…
    (I believe the place where the Cross was, and where Jesus was buried, is now a big church, they have even made the Golgotha smaller, to be able to build a church over it. So to me visiting that site would not be so desirably, there is no more garden, here Mary Magdalena saw Jesus)

    But just considering that I could go…wow.

    But … our son called us last night, and he said thate Israel has given a code red to our country, it is impossible for me to enter. End of dream, lol.

    Then I read the ODB this morning and was greatly encouraged!

  431. SFDBWV says:

    I am sorry Foreverblessed you aren’t going to get to go to Israel.

    The only time I ever actually wanted to go was back in June of 1967 while in Viet Nam as a young Marine. When the war broke out there, we were all hopeful to go and help Israel.

    However God did and it was over before it really began.


  432. SFDBWV says:

    I actually seen a news item the other day about Senator Cruz upset with MSNBC over their saying Thanksgiving was a white supremacist and genocidal holiday.

    This a primary example of how the news industry incites and divides people.

    I don’t know if Mart has any plans on posting something for Thanksgiving or not. But I do know in the Mosaic Law is instruction for a day of thanksgiving and I am going now to quote George Washington’s declaration instituting Thanksgiving as a national holiday here in the USA.

    “It is the duty of all Nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful his benefits, and humbly to implore his protection and favor…Now therefore I do recommend and assign Thursday the 26th day of November next to be devoted by the people of these States to the service of that great and glorious Being, who is the beneficent Author of all the good that was, that is, or that will be-That we may then all unite in rendering unto Him our sincere and humble thanks… for the civil and religious liberty with which we are blessed…we may then unite in most humbly offering our prayers and supplications to the great Lord and Ruler of Nations and beseech Him to pardon our national and other transgressions…”

    George Washington October 3, 1789


  433. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed please allow me a little humor, as I mean no disrespect to you certainly, nor anyone else.

    I really don’t know why Christians want to go to Israel so much. As I understand it, *the tomb was empty*.


  434. Beloved says:

    Forever I’m sorry your travel plans were thwarted by the virus. It’s really causing problems in Europe I’m hearing. Some here who have been fully vaccinated are getting very sick. So it goes it’s in Gods hands and so are we!

    The thought “war memorial “ comes to mind, Jerusalem being the physical place of the war between God and Satan that won the victory that overcame sins for the whole world! And the future birthplace of the New Jerusalem! When I think of the curtain in the temple- being very very thick-( I can’t remember but I believe 6 inches or more) being supernaturally ripped in two WOW! The place that God walked and wept over, wow. I’d love to move there myself but thankful Gods Spirit resides in me as I’ve believed and received Christ as Savior and King with great Joy wherever I live.

    Blessings to all who are in Christ Jesus today with love and affection,

  435. Beloved says:

    Steve you mentioned @10:52am what has become known as CRT- Critical Race Theory. This is being propagated in schools and promotes racism. It’s very ugly.

  436. Beloved says:

    CRT is also gotten into some churches-(

  437. foreverblessed says:

    “The tomb is empty”
    And the place of the tomb, the rock above it has been hewn away for the most part, so that a church could be build over it, and the place ofw Golgotha, is right next to it, Ande that hill has been hewn down too. The crack in the rock, thought to have happened at the moment Jesus died, there was an earthquake.

    When I think of the Resurrection, I see the garden, and the sun shining. Mary Magdalene, looking for Jesus.

    Mart has been in Israel several times, making films.
    It’s ok Steve, I think the same. But still it is an interesting place to visit.

    Like Rome, the Forum where the sear of the Roman Empire was, it was quite impressive to visit it. Walking around the ruins, imagining the Caesars walking here, the soldiers. Ruling the world.

  438. foreverblessed says:

    Last Sunday, the preacher talked about Luke 18:31-43
    Jesus healing a blind man, but Jesus was using that to show how blind the disciples were, about the Suffering Servant.
    They expected Jesus to become King, and overthrow the Roman Empire.
    But Jesus was not conquering evil empires, but the evil in man.

    The fall of man…
    At the moment I am studying Romans 3-8, the normal Christian life, by Watchmen Nee.

    God does not make us better, He has chosen to make an end to Adam.
    That’s why Jesus is called the last Adam.
    The last Adam, His body hang on the Cross. A
    His blood is for forgiveness.
    But His body makes an end to the old man.
    Our old man is drawn into the Body of Jesus, hang on the Cross, was buried in the tomb, that tomb that is now empty. So that we could be raised with Jesus in the Resurrection.

    To a new life, a spiritual life. By the Spirit.

    When Jesus hang on the Cross, all of mankind was drawn to Him,
    John 12:32
    “But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to Myself”

    That is the fact that happened two thousand years ago, because the Word of God says so.
    “It is because of Him that you are in Christ Jesus…”
    1 Cor 1:30

    That is the fact that I may have faith in, faith in the action of Jesus,

  439. SFDBWV says:

    Yes, all of these commercial Christian enterprises both go to Israel and or provide trips for people to go and see for themselves the “actual” places Jesus was born, died, rose again and walked.

    These places saved and identified by the Crusaders who fought, and of whom many died, to keep safe from the dark and evil face of Islam.

    Odd isn’t it how many doubting Thomas’s there are…

    I still get a couple magazines, though I have tried to rid myself of getting too many, but I used to get one called “Biblical Archeological Revue”.

    It was dedicated to finding physical proof of the places and events mentioned all throughout Scripture.

    One of the difficulties it and all Christian archeologists have is gaining entry into Islamic held countries where so much of the OT places and people lived and took place.

    In case any missed it, during the terror of ISIS they destroyed any and all artifacts they found in their terrorist raids across the Mid-East. Including the tomb of Jonah of whom the story of Ninevah is told.

    In a world that demands proof concerning everything, if we didn’t keep places like the holy sights of our faith as mentioned all throughout Scripture visible and obtainable to the public, the enemies of our faith would deny they ever existed and reduce our belief to mere myth.

    However as long as these are identified as being the birthplace of Jesus, the place of His death and the very tomb from which He rose, it makes it difficult for the spirit of the anti-christ to deny these things.

    Have any of you ever seen the “Shroud of Turin”? Do you believe it to be the burial cloth of Jesus? Or do you believe it to be some form of yet to be identified artistic fraud?

    Does seeing things like that bolster your faith?

    Like I said there are a lot of “Doubting Thomas’s” in the world and I might say even among believers.


  440. SFDBWV says:

    Joyce the “Critical Race Theory” is right out of the Communist Manifesto as written by Karl Marx. It has been adopted to pit blacks against whites in an attempt to divide us as a people and destroy our way of life. it is clearly Marxist and if any of you didn’t know it, he was an atheist.


  441. poohpity says:

    Aren’t Christian’s human beings that struggle with doubt, prejudices, hate and every other sin– isn’t that the reason Jesus went to the Cross but before one can be forgiven they have to admit to the need so they can beat their chest and say in humility, truth be told, “O God, be merciful to me, for I am a sinner.’ rather than those who have great confidence in their own righteousness and scorn everyone else?

  442. poohpity says:

    There seems to be the temptation always to put one’s self on a pedestal to be able to call out others, normally with the very things they struggle with themselves, in how sinful they are and blinded and deaf to the very sin that lies within their own heart.

  443. foreverblessed says:

    On today’s ODB Psalm 119:11 is mentioned

    I have hidden your words in my heart
    that I might not sin against you

    And 2 Tim 3:10-17

    All scripture is God-breathed and is useful

    In the comment section there is a commentator, it used to be ‘learningmore’, but now, right at the bottom it is ‘Kentonovich’ if you read what that person writes, then you can see how my thinking was, when I was young. There it is.
    At this moment I can read it, and not get depressed. Now there is a new thing happening:
    Praying intercessory prayer!

    Dear Lord, you have saved me out of that pit of old testament thinking, You rescued me, and openedy eyes, that the Living Word, the Law of Your mouth, is every Word that Jesus speaks, and is invigorated by the Living Spirit.
    You not only gave us Your Word, You also gave us the Spirit that will accomplish them in us.
    Open the eyes of this person,
    To see that we drink the Cup, “this is the Blood of the New Covenant”.
    Thank You, dear Lord for hearing me.
    In Jesus’ Name I pray.

  444. Hugger4U says:

    Good Morning!

    God is good, all the time!

    Jesus called in a loud voice, “Lazarus, come out!”

    And then Jesus said to them, “Take off the grave clothes and let him go.”

    This morning I heard Him say, “SHED THE DEAD!”
    Then later this morning the Words came to me, “The flesh profits nothing”.

    So I looked that up and found in John 6:63

    It is the Spirit who gives life; the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak to you are spirit, and they are life.

    So, we are to shed the flesh which was conquered on the Cross. The flesh is dead and doesn’t belong in the Kingdom of Christ or His Church. It is an already done deal in Heaven and being done in the earth. That is how it is sometimes. Even though Jesus won the battle through the cross, we have to live it out in our earthly bodies. We have to take off the grave clothes and leave them and go! (Everyday)

    Praise God for His Words of Wisdom and Knowledge and Truth. Thank you Jesus for Your victory on the cross!

    In the Lord of the Lord Jesus,

  445. Beloved says:

    Thinking about hiding Gods Word in the heart psalm119 and thought of Romans3: . 31Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.

    How do we uphold the law? Is it done in the flesh, or in the Spirit? Seems like a partnership to me. Just pondering.

  446. Beloved says:

    Holiness, “Be holy as I am holy, says God.” Is it apart from flesh and it’s good or bad works? Does my writing and thinking which are fleshly acts matter? Slander, lies blasphemy hypocrisy coarse speech hate speech etc? Encouragement faith joyful singing reading scripture out loud praying out loud etc?

  447. Beloved says:

    Shed the flesh! Indeed.
    Ephesians 4: 20 But that is not the way you learned Christ!— 21 assuming that you have heard about him and were taught in him, as the truth is in Jesus,

    22 to put off your old self, which belongs to your former manner of life and is corrupt through deceitful desires,

    23 and to be renewed in the spirit of your minds,

    24 and to put on the new self, created after the likeness of God in true righteousness and holiness.

  448. foreverblessed says:

    Putting of the old self, how do you do that?

    Is it by asking for more faith, faith in the fact that when Jesus died on the Cross, we died with Him?

    Romans 6:2-7

    We died to sin, how can we live in it any longer?

    Or don’t you know that all of us who were baptised into Christ Jesus were baptised into His death?

    We were therefore buried with Him, through baptism into death

    in order that, just as Christ was reaised from the dead through the glory of the Father, we too may live a new life.

    If we have been united with Him in His death, we will certainly also be united with Him in His resurrection.

    For we know that our old self was crucified with Him so that the body of sin might be rendered powerless, that we should be no longer slaves to sin, because anyone that has died, has been freed from sin.

  449. foreverblessed says:

    We may be looking to an experience in ourselves that we know that we died to our old self, but the Word of God says:
    When Jesus died, we died with Him.
    It is IN Him that these things are true.
    So I do not have to look for something inside me, but trust in the Word of God, and keep on believing that this Word is true, that we have died, because Jesus has died.
    When I sin, I can confess, and rely on the Blood of Jesus for covering me.

    The Blood of Christ, is for forgiveness, over and over,
    the Body of Christ, is for our old man, in Adam, that is taken away, buried, made an end to.
    so that we can live in newness of life.
    That New Life is already here, I can have faith in the fact that when I died with Christ, I am raised to a new life in Him.

  450. foreverblessed says:

    The ODB of yesterday, I told you that there was someone, who’s thinking resembled mine, when I thought we have to keep the Sabbath and the Holy Sabbaths, but all these comments have been deleted, they are not there anymore.

    Intercessory prayer for this person, that God may be merciful as He has been to me, and opened my eyes to the Life of Christ in us.

  451. poohpity says:

    forever, that conversation about following the old covenant (law of Moses) compared to the new covenant which by the blood of Jesus was shed for the forgiveness of sin AND marked the beginning of the new covenant was argued from the beginning of the Christian faith. Read Acts 15:4-30 NLT after which Paul wrote his letter to the church in Galatia to explain it further during his second missionary journey. So that struggle has been around for a long time between Judaism (law) and Christianity (grace).

  452. SFDBWV says:

    taking a break between having made my dressing for tomorrow and an appointed phone call at 10.

    I am not a sports fan as is Mart, but I just read of J.J. Watt Arizona Cardinal’s defensive end is paying for all the funerals of the victims of the Waukesha Christmas parade tragedy.

    Wow, stuff like that touches me deep and is a good example of actions speaking louder than words.

    Good for you J.J. Watt


  453. street says:

    Putting off the old self, how do you do that?

    by mortifying the flesh by the Spirit of Christ. by new birth – regeneration. a work of God not a work of the flesh.

    12 So then,[m] brothers and sisters,[n] we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh 13 (for if you live according to the flesh, you will[o] die),[p] but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body you will live. 14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are[q] the sons of God. 15 For you did not receive the spirit of slavery leading again to fear,[r] but you received the Spirit of adoption,[s] by whom[t] we cry, “Abba,[u] Father.” 16 The Spirit himself bears witness to[v] our spirit that we are God’s children. 17 And if children, then heirs (namely, heirs of God and also fellow heirs with Christ)[w]—if indeed we suffer with him so we may also be glorified with him. Romans 8

    not by power/flesh not by might/will, but by My Spirit says the LORD.

    made new by the blood of the Lamb of God.

    if you abide in Me, Jesus, and My Word abides in you…..then.

    abiding faith, abiding hope ,abiding love. all these are gifts from God through Christ Jesus. fruit from abiding in the the True Vine the last I AM

  454. Beloved says:

    Pumpkin pie in the oven for tomorrow smells heavenly! I’m hungry, lol.
    Found a “new to me” book by Piper at the thrift shop called Taste and See, Savoring the Supremacy of God in All of Life. 140 meditations. It’s very good.

    He brings up in chapter 3 the complexity and simplicity in the Bible. That even Peter said that some of Paul’s writings were hard to understand 2Peter 3:16! But the way to deal with our differences is by loving each other through Christ. Which reminds me of Mart, and I hope and pray for all here who celebrate tomorrow a most blessed day of thanks-giving to our gracious God. Amen

  455. Beloved says:

    Putting off the flesh…

    Those who became Christs early in life and have consistently followed Him have fewer fleshly problems to deal with than those of us who knew a “former way of life”. Some not all though as with the Duggar scandal. But the principle still stands as far as obedience to God in the new way of life received through Christ Jesus. Ex. Let him who steals steal no more.

  456. Beloved says:

    “Mortifying the flesh” it seems to me is like killing/stopping dead works that were once thought to lead to salvation. Interesting study everyone, thanks.

  457. Beloved says:

    Deuteronomy 6
    20In the future, when your son asks, “What is the meaning of the decrees and statutes and ordinances that the LORD our God has commanded you?” 21then you are to tell him, “We were slaves of Pharaoh in Egypt, but the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand. 22Before our eyes the LORD inflicted great and devastating signs and wonders on Egypt, on Pharaoh, and on all his household. 23But He brought us out from there to lead us in and give us the land that He had sworn to our fathers.

    24And the LORD commanded us to observe all these statutes and to fear the LORD our God, that we may always be prosperous and preserved, as we are to this day. 25And if we are careful to observe every one of these commandments before the LORD our God, as He has commanded us, then that will be our righteousness.”

    Yet our righteousness is in Christ who did observe every commandment in our stead. No need to observe the commandments any longer? Some think this. Yet how can i being In Christ want to do any less? That’s why we wrestle in the flesh against temptations with the leading and help of the Holy Spirit sent by Jesus.

  458. foreverblessed says:

    The commandments of God, what God gave to Moses was part of the Old Covenant,
    We were under the law, but when we died, we were no longer under the law, we were dead.
    Paul explains that in Romans 7.

    In fact that is also one of the great facts about the Body vof Christ:
    Romans 7:4
    So my brothers, you also died to the law through the Body of Christ, that you belong to another:
    to Him, Who was raised from the dead,
    in order that we might bear fruit to God.

    within that Law of Moses, it is said: Deut 18:18
    In fact Moses is saying: when He comes listen to Him.
    Listen to Jesus!!!
    We are under no law, we are under the law of Jesus, Paul said.

  459. foreverblessed says:

    But what Jesus tells us, Jesus gives that as a promise, if we follow Him, He will give us the Spirit to accomplish what He desires.
    It is not like a law, it is a promise!
    A blessing.
    Matt 5:1-11

  460. foreverblessed says:

    His mother said to the servants:
    “Do whatever He tells you”
    John 2:5

    She is saying something very profound!
    Like Moses said: “When the Prophet comes, listen to Him” Deut 18:18

  461. foreverblessed says:

    We cannot do as we want, with all our mind, soul, heart and being we belong to Jesus, He purchased us out of the kingdom of darkness, into His Kingdom. We are His.
    Not only that, His Spirit changes our hearts, so that we see that His will is all we desire.
    We do not want as we will, but as He will, because we desire that so much.
    His will, is not the law of Moses, that was only the kindergarten, Gal 3:23-24, but His perfect will. That we should be near to Him, hear Him speak to us, in our daily life, to go where He sends us, and be there His light, touch people’s hearts.

  462. Beloved says:

    Very good forever!

  463. street says:

    We are under no law, we are under the law of Jesus, Paul said.

    the rule/law of the Spirit has come….new birth……new creation.

    35 All the inhabitants of the earth are regarded as nothing.[a]
    He does as he wishes with the army of heaven
    and with those who inhabit the earth.
    No one slaps[b] his hand
    and says to him, ‘What have you done?’

    36 At that time my sanity returned to me. I was restored[c] to the honor of my kingdom, and my splendor returned to me. My ministers and my nobles were seeking me out, and I was reinstated[d] over my kingdom. I became even greater than before. 37 Now I, Nebuchadnezzar, praise and exalt and glorify the King of heaven, for all his deeds are right and his ways are just. He is able to bring down those who live[e] in pride.Daniel 4:35-37

    Matthew 13:19
    When anyone hears the word about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches what was sown in his heart; this is the seed sown along the path.

    Mark 9:1
    And he said to them, “I tell you the truth, there are some standing here who will not experience death before they see the kingdom of God come with power.”

    24 He presented them with another parable:[b] “The kingdom of heaven is like a person who sowed good seed in his field. 25 But while everyone was sleeping, an enemy came and sowed darnel[c] among the wheat and went away Matthew 13

  464. Beloved says:

    Kindergarten-guardian it says. Probably a typo from you forever but two completely different meanings I think.

  465. foreverblessed says:

    Pooh, I know now, it is so clear, in Acts 15 it was decided that the new Christian converts did not have to keep the law of Moses. They named a few things, Acts 15:20 abstain from food polluted by idols, from sexual immorality, from the meat of strangled animals, and from blood.

    That was all the restrictions.

    It sounds so stupid that my childhood church did preach to keep the Laws, beginning with the 10 commandments, then expounding on the 4th commandment: to keep the Sabbath holy. It is not only the weekly Sabbath, but also the yearly Sabbath’s, the Holy Days from Leviticus 23.

    And all the verses of the OT were used, to show that the sign of the people of God was the Sabbath.

    It really does look do stupid, that it is so clear that Paul wrote:
    When we died with Christ, we died to the Law, it has no longer any hold on us.
    Paul explains the Law, as a husband, who sits on the couch, who demands but moves no finger to help you.
    We died, and so that husband has lost us.
    So that we could belong to another Husband, the One Who would give His Life for us, so that through the Spirit it flows through us, and invigorates us, and helps us to accomplish what He desires of us.
    (What Jesus desires in us, sounds different than: Law)
    Not that we are lawless, but….
    That we should belong to Another,
    A New Husband, namely Jesus Christ, Who was raised from the dead, and His Resurrection Life now flows through us, those who believe in Him.

    But now I described it two times.

  466. foreverblessed says:

    20 To the Jews I became like a Jew, to win the Jews. To those under the law I became like one under the law (though I myself am not under the law), so as to win those under the law. 21 To those not having the law I became like one not having the law (though I am not free from God’s law but am under Christ’s law), so as to win those not having the law.
    1 Cor 9:20-22

  467. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, the Law was a guardian, yes, I would like to describe it as our kindergarten time:
    Under guardians we were kept safe.
    But now Jesus Himself wants to lead us, now the fullness of time has come: He is here with us, in us, guiding us, each personally. He has a word for me here, and for you there.

    Last week, Friday Nov 19, the topic on Utmost was:

    “When He has come”

    Now that got my attention: thinking, oh how wonderful it will be, when Jesus comes.
    But then I started reading, it was Jesus telling His disciples, that when He had gone back to His Father, He would send the Holy Spirit.
    John 16:8

    The Holy Spirit has come!!!

    Why do I not rejoice much more?? Jesus has not left us as orphans, He gave us the Spirit!

    “He will bring glory to Me, by taking from what is Mine and making it known to you. That is why I said, the Spirit will take from what is Mine and make it known to you.”
    John 16:14-15

  468. foreverblessed says:

    Happy Thanksgiving Day!!!

    Thank God, Who did not withhold His only begotten Son from us,
    But gave Him to whosoever believeth, in Him, should not perish, but have everlasting life.

    Have a happy day, with all your loved ones, Loved One!

  469. bullwinkle11 says:

    Happy Thanksgiving one and all!
    Steve, a special thank you for the quote from George Washington. I intend to read it later today when our guests arrive.
    The conversation to this point has been very good, I appreciate reading your thoughts each morning.
    Since we are discussing the law, I felt it appropriate to quote Matthew 22:39,40. “A second is equally important: Love your neighbor as yourself. The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.”
    If we love God and our neighbor, we will be putting the flesh to death through the power of the Holy Spirit.

  470. poohpity says:

    Paul taught us in his letter to the church in Galatia, “I have been crucified with Christ, and I no longer live, but Christ lives in me. The life I live in the body, I live by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave Himself up for me. I do not set aside the grace of God. For if righteousness comes through the law, Christ died for nothing.”

    Just like Luke wrote in Acts 15 concerning the law, “So why are you now challenging God by burdening the Gentile believers with a yoke that neither we nor our ancestors were able to bear?”

    Talk about a thankful heart for being given something we do not deserve, the grace of God. Thank you Lord never seems to be enough for all that you have done for us.

  471. poohpity says:

    Following the law never changed or softened a heart but God’s forgiveness and grace has. The law showed us we are sinners who need to be saved and pointed us to the Savior.

    Thank you Jesus!

  472. poohpity says:

    Now that is Good News!

  473. bubbles says:

    Let’s remember Mart today and pray for him. He will have an empty chair at the table for dinner.

  474. bubbles says:

    I forgot. . .Romans talks about how Jesus fulfilled the law. I have cried reading through Romans! Thankful to live under grace and thankful for what Jesus has done and is doing for us now. Thankful for His mercy.

  475. Hugger4U says:

    Happy Thanksgiving to all!

    I echo all the good comments on thankfulness! I am eternally grateful that the Lord provided a way through the cross to be with Him for eternity!

    He gave us everything we needed to be with HIM!

    He gave His Son.
    He gave faith.
    He gave a new birth.
    He gave a new life.
    He gave Holy Spirit.
    He gave blessings on blessings….

    The list is endless!

    Love in Christ Jesus,

  476. street says:

    saw this on facebook

    Christmas- Emanule, God with us.

    The Cross- God for us.

    Pentecost- God in us.

  477. Beloved says:

    Thankfulness Paul’s words

    Do not lie to one another, since you have taken off the old self with its practices, 10and have put on the new self, which is being renewed in knowledge in the image of its Creator. 11Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave, or free, but Christ is all and is in all.

    12Therefore, as the elect of God, holy and beloved, clothe yourselves with hearts of compassion, kindness, humility, gentleness, and patience. 13Bear with one another and forgive any complaint you may have against someone else. Forgive as the Lord forgave you. 14And over all these virtues put on love, which is the bond of perfect unity. 15Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, for to this you were called as members of one body. And be thankful.

    16Let the word of Christ richly dwell within you as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom, and as you sing psalms, hymns, and spiritual songs with gratitude in your hearts to God. 17And whatever you do, in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through Him.

  478. Beloved says:


  479. Regina says:

    Hello All! 🙂
    I pray all is well with you and yours.🙏🏽 It’s so awesome to be able to chat with you from a safe place. Wow… So much to tell! But for now, I want to wish you all a blessed Thanksgiving Day, and I pray that you will truly enjoy your time with family and friends.

    55 degrees and a blue sky in Texas right now….

    Love to all,

  480. bratimus says:

    A Blessed Thanksgiving to all

    In Christ Jesus name


  481. bubbles says:

    Regina! It is so good to hear from you. You’ve been on my mind and I was hoping you were all right. Steve and I spoke of you, Viv, and Maru this past Saturday. Thankful you are safe.

  482. Beloved says:

    Blessed Thanksgiving to you, Bratimus and Regina! So glad to hear you are safe I’ve been wondering about you.

  483. SFDBWV says:

    While thinking of Thanksgiving I want to thank Mart for all these years of allowing me to share my life and thoughts with the people in his blog.

    It has been my pleasure to be a part of his adventure.

    Bullwinkle you are very welcome for my quote of GW. I hope your guests were inspired by it as well.

    Spitting snow flurries this morning as the temperature is just at freezing.

    Blessings to all today.


  484. poohpity says:

    Yes Steve it was very kind of Mart to allow you a platform to share your life and thoughts on his blog because it sure hasn’t been talking about the topics Mart presented for us to think about on his blog. So Steve thank you for the pleasure of being part of your adventure regardless of what Mart’s intent is/was.

  485. phpatato says:

    I know I shouldn’t but ya, sometimes I just can’t let it go. Doing so gives affirmation that it is acceptable…..

    Pooh was that comment really necessary

    No it was not!!

    Enough said.

  486. Beloved says:

    Pat I’m so glad you spoke because I too have been guilty of criticizing Steve for posting personal off topic things when I have certainly done the same!!! I’ve wondered why I attacked him so viciously at one point. I can blame it on sin or the devil but ultimately it was my need to stick to the “rules”, much like a Pharisee without any semblance of grace much less mercy. I have to admit as a one time prisoner in a home I was born into and later one I created it was all about following a rule, it demanded punishment though. Sometimes when prison doors are finally opened it may take a lifetime to discover freedom and how to live and let others live in freedom as well.

    I’m so thankful for friendships and owe a big apology to Steve and all here who are his friends for chastising him needlessly but for my own need to rectify whatever rule I felt was broken.

    Grace and peace to all with love

    While I’m at it I must say to Pooh that I hope you had a good day of thanksgiving and mean that with love that Christ has shown me also. Blessings, Joyce

  487. Beloved says:


    We are not fundamentally free; external circumstances are not in our hands, they are in God’s hands, the one thing in which we are free is in our personal relationship to God.

    We are not responsible for the circumstances we are in, but we are responsible for the way we allow those circumstances to affect us; we can either allow them to get on top of us, or we can allow them to transform us into what God wants us to be. Conformed to His Image, 354 L

  488. plumbape says:

    Well the ape from Indy is back. Hi guys love Marts been thinking about and all who come here… I for one can speak intelligently about when they finally open the prison door and finally set me free. Freedom is not free. As anyone in the military knows, Steve sure the Marines were lucky to have you and so Am I. To young to go and trouble kept me from the Marines. Signed up in San Diego but it was not to be…. It does take some time to find yourself. Got tricked the first but not the second. I worked hard at the body and the mind.
    Steve it’s a sweltering high of 34 and cool night at 23. California dreaming…. Hang in there gang Jesus is coming!!!
    Mike 2 time loser 3 loving adult children and wife Sharon passed August 23. Hated to see her go.

  489. poohpity says:

    When have any of you had enough respect for Mart to follow his lead on his blog? This is what was said about this blog to begin with, “A blog by Mart De Haan and Friends covering today’s timely issues called ‘Been Thinking About’.” on Gospel.com. I do not feel bad for having Mart’s six while everyone else has Steve’s.

  490. Beloved says:

    My condolences Mike that empty chair as Bubbles said seems to go around here. A mourning and gratefulness at the same time. God ordains our circumstances and even though painful and sad He uses them for His glory. Even our disappointments are pre-ordained as you know all about. Won’t it be wonderful to get past these hard times; thinking of our future resurrection!

    I appreciate your presence here also.

  491. Beloved says:

    It was 18f yesterday and my car battery had to be jumped!!! But I believe it’s because I overburdened it with my one mile shopping trips. I’ve always been one to do whatever I can to save gas, but now I discover short cuts aren’t good for cars, lol. So now I drive 5 miles around town to make up for battery usage starting it up. Just shaking my head. Can’t believe it! Life is- well- life!

    Today it’s 30f and finally the geese, hundreds of them, which had congregated in a local lake are heading South. It’s beautiful to watch them as they take advantage of the air that supports them in formation (V for victory?!) as they travel together with their leader. I think there is a spiritual application there. Do we need each other’s support? Yes! Who is the Wind between us that carries us.? Well, we all know.

  492. street says:

    Jesus talked and lived outside the lines of the way they connected the dots.

    thinking He did not walk in darkness.

    may the Spirit and Word, Light of the World, be found in us.

    thinking of a post r c said, something like the more we understand the Sovereignty of God the more Thankful our prayers are.

  493. Beloved says:

    I don’t think anybody disrespects Mart. He’s never been shamed or maligned for anything he’s posted. There have been some disagreements and misunderstandings.

    The only one’s that disrespected Mart are those that condemn and criticize one of Marts friends here. After all, it’s his blog and he could shut it down in a heartbeat. Gods good providence keeps it going. And tons of grace. I know my continued presence here is only by Gods grace.

    Thinking more about respect tonight in the Kingdom of God. Seems like the only one deserving of respect is God- the triune God. We must die to self; that’s a lot of dying daily. Blog in and blog out.

  494. Beloved says:

    Dear Pooh
    In the Spirit of thinking of others as better than ourselves I pray may God bless you and keep you, may He make His countenance to shine upon you and give you peace.

  495. Beloved says:

    Dear Pooh,
    According to Ephesians I pray-
    remembering you in my prayers, 17that the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the glorious Father, may give you a spirit of wisdom and revelation in your knowledge of Him.

    18I ask that the eyes of your heart may be enlightened, so that you may know the hope of His calling, the riches of His glorious inheritance in the saints, 19and the surpassing greatness of His power to us who believe.


  496. Beloved says:

    Amen and thank you street.

  497. Regina says:

    Good Evening, All

    I pray that you and yours are well and that you all enjoyed your Thanksgiving Day. Thank you bubbles and beloved (and all) for your kind words and for thinking about me on occasion. The Lord Jesus has definitely been taking care of me and protecting me. And I’m so very grateful for caring and prayerful friends! I can’t remember what month it was when I shared that I needed to move out of the house where I was living, but I finally moved out of that house in March of this year. The lady that I was living with did some very unkind things two days before I moved out of her house. The most horrible thing— she stole all my keys and I knew she took them. She didn’t give them back until after I paid to have my car towed to a car dealership in the city where I was moving to— then the Holy Spirit reminded me that I put my spare car key in a safety box in the trunk of my car. However, the key to the safety box was on the key ring that the lady stole. So, I had to pay a lock smith to open my safety box so I could get my spare car key. Then, I drove my car to a friends house for the night (I didn’t trust leaving it at that lady’s house because I thought she would use my car keys to steal things from my car in the middle of the night). My friend brought me back to that lady’s house where I spent my last night there before moving out the next day.

    When I woke up the next morning, after personal hygiene, I started packing up the last of my things, and when I went into the walk-in closet, my keys were laying behind a pillow that was on top of some packed up clothes!😲 I knew immediately that I didn’t leave my keys there. I always kept my keys in my pants pocket or in a little purse that I wore across my body or in my robe pocket because I didn’t trust that Landlady.

    Long story made short, she followed me all around the house on the day I moved out—like she was sad to see me go—until the movers arrived, put my belongings in their truck and we drove away. So, that’s part 1 of my journey. There’s a lot more to tell.

    46 degrees under a clear sky in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,

  498. SFDBWV says:

    The base subject of Mart’s present topic is the difference in what we interpret from Scripture.

    As stated by Mart, Jesus would rather die outside the walls of their vision of God then be a party to their hypocrisy.

    They being the religious experts of the time.

    So as we see nothing has changed. Some people who consider themselves to be expert in interpreting Scripture still miss the meaning and heart behind the words.

    It is said that talk is cheap, but that actions speak louder than words.

    It is also said that what comes out of your mouth is what is in your heart.

    In our case here in this venue, it is what we say by typing that comes from our hearts.

    We are also told not to quench the Spirit. But that is what happens when someone pours cold water over the heart felt comment from any one of us here.

    I believe it was in Antioch that people began to call “believers” Christian. A term that implies being like Christ.

    Do our words and actions reflect Christ or just the same old version of who we have always been?

    Insofar as the comment directed at me yesterday by Deborah Johnson, I will simply say, “The thing speaks for itself.”

    It is sad because she really can’t help it. She has a sick spirit that she won’t let go of and it has controlled her life and continues to tarnish every relationship she is a part of.

    It is equally sad that Mart allows such behavior as it has run off far too many good people from this community.

    I suppose if I am to remain I will just have to revert back to never reading her comments and let it go at that.

    Looking forward, Regina, to the rest of your story.


  499. foreverblessed says:

    What a story, Regina!
    May God be with you, and may He also be with that landlady.

    About this blog, I remember that when Mart stepped down from being the director of ODB, that this blog was disconnected from the website of ODB.
    I remember that he told us, that he thought that we were capable of going on with this blog. It seemed to him that we were mature enough. He even said that the “don’t go off topic” guideline was dropped, as he would not post so much topics any longer.

    And here we are, 499 comments, I just have to smile some bit, to think that Mart would have a problem that we would go off-topic.

    However, it is general courtesy to have a theme going for a while, where many can join. And we do have that, and I am thankful for that.
    Thanks all for making this blog go, and it is about Jesus, the Rock of our faith.

  500. bullwinkle11 says:

    Just a few days ago I stated that I was really enjoying the direction/comments that were being posted. Sad to see how quickly that can fade.

    Seems to me: The topic being how we interpret scripture, that sharing our experiences and fellowship with other believers is the purpose/intent of this blog. I am so thankful to be able to share in the lives of others each morning when I come here as part of my morning devotion.

    Going off topic, Regina when you post temperatures they almost always coincide with conditions in our area. My wife and I moved to the Texas Hill Country roughly a year ago. I assume you must be in the same general area, although nothing is close in Texas!

    Blessings to all,

  501. Beloved says:

    Regina so good to hear from you!

    Forever thank you for reminding us all of the changes Mart made to the blog when he left his job at ODB. We’re getting older and prone to forgetfulness.

    Bull it absolutely grieves me when the flow is disrupted here. I used to get angry and offended and want to lash back but having grown up a bit now it’s just grief. God uses all things for our good. Grief makes me pray more. It’s good. Providence.

  502. Beloved says:


    The attitude of a Christian towards the providential order in which he is placed is to recognize that God is behind it for purposes of His own. Biblical Ethics, 99 R

  503. Hugger4U says:


    Leviathan has been on the rampage again. The old twisting serpent has always sought to squeeze the life of God out of us. This time he seeks to divide and conquer through miscommunications and word shifting. He’s stirring up mistrust amongst leaders and creating factions out of fiction. I’ve been watching it all week and when I started to write it down, it came out like this:

    You need be aware
    of a deadly snare
    coming straight from Leviathan’s head.
    He is shifting words
    and statements we’ve heard
    and twisting the things that we’ve said.

    Every word that we speak
    is a chance for a leak
    that his henchmen will twist and contort.
    So please stay alert
    to those words causing hurt
    and test them by heaven’s true court.

    He loves to divide
    or say someone lied
    so watch for his hooks and his bait.
    He’s releasing a curse
    hoping things will get worse
    bearing down on the saints with his weight.

    So be watchful with care
    to this scrupulous snare
    that is seeking to tear us apart.
    Determine to wait
    as you stand at the gate
    and look at the state of the heart.

    Refuse to believe
    every message received
    and take time to determine its source.
    Reject the offense
    and use godly sense
    to untangle and straighten your course.

    I think we are near
    to the enemy’s fear
    that the saints overcome him at last.
    So, watch for his traps
    as you stand in the gap
    he’ll be vanquished with saints holding fast!

    By Wanda Alger

  504. Beloved says:

    John14: 15If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
    16And I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Advocate to be with you forever—
    17the Spirit of truth. The world cannot receive Him, because it neither sees Him nor knows Him. But you do know Him, for He abides with you and will be in you.

    What a wonderful Spirit to be our advocate now and forever. The world cannot receive Him. It seems the Spirit moves amongst His people and within individuals.
    Thank you Jesus may your Name be glorified here. Amen

  505. Regina says:

    Good Evening, All

    I pray all is well with you and yours. Thank you all for your kind words and encouragement. I’m ready to share the 2nd part of the journey that lead to my safe place. I want to preface what I’m about to share with 3 cornerstone or life Bible verses. I’ve had to stand on these verses on numerous occasions throughout my life…

    Psalm 34: 19; James 1:2-4 and Eph. 6:12

    My former Landlady forced me to move out of her house before I could seriously vet a new roommate. So, my choir sisters (and other sisters at my church) struggled to help me find somewhere to live. They referred me to a lady who used to go to our church, and two of my choir sisters spoke well of her. They told me that she was looking for a roommate— some who could help her with the rent/mortgage payment on her home. And my choir sisters believed that she was trustworthy enough to be a great roommate for me. So, because I was in a desperate situation, I trusted them (even though I felt a wariness in my spirit that I ignored). I began a conversation with my soon-to-be new roommate, via text message, on Thursday, and she told me how much I would pay on a monthly basis. Then, we agreed that I would move in on Monday. So, I moved in with a lady who I didn’t know the same day that I moved out of my former Landlady’s house. My new roommate told me on Friday or Saturday before I moved in that we had another roommate who’d just moved in and it would be the 3 of us in the house. I was shocked by that news, but I was too desperate to really care. So, we all met up in front of (a townhouse which is very similar to an apartment) Roommate #1’s house and introduced ourselves. Then, roommate #1 helped me move my miscellaneous belongings to the storage room on the patio (it had a lock and key). And she helped me move my important belongings to my room. She allowed me to have the master bedroom, she insisted that I take it, and I thought that was both generous and strange. Nevertheless, I agreed to it. And the other roommate slept downstairs in a foldable sofa bed. Then, roommate #1 showed me around the house, where I could store my food and dishes in the cabinet, pantry area and refrigerator and which bathroom I would use. We all used the same bathroom to shower or take a bath (everyone just cleaned up after using it), but there was a restroom (toilet, with cabinet and sink) downstairs. Then, roommate #1 showed me her CD player, and (that was important to her because someone had given her a gift of the Bible on CD), she told me that she played her Bible CD 24/7 because it was a great comfort to her. And, at first, when she told me that I didn’t mind it—I love the Word of God.

    Journey process to be continued…

    Pete, I live about 3 hours away from your neck of the woods. Though I love the Hill country part of our Lone Star state. Your neck of the woods is very pretty.

    54 degrees and a lot of rain in my neck of the woods.

    Love to all,

  506. SFDBWV says:

    I certainly hope that your story has a good end Regina.

    When I worked in Winchester, Virginia I discovered something I had never actually seen before.

    An actual Salvation Army church.

    I have always seen the Christmas kettles and the soup kitchens and even the homeless shelters, but never an actual church building.

    What I discovered was that they also provided short term apartments for families or for those in need of a place to live while getting a place of their own.

    The Salvation Army, one of the best…

    I have always wanted to do more, but have learned it is always God who does the doing and only uses us to get it done.

    We can do nothing apart from Him. it is He who provides, He who empowers, He who anoints and He who should be honored for it.

    I don’t know Regina if you live in an area where the Salvation Army is established, but if you are still having a problem finding a place to live, give them a call. However, I do hope your story has a good end.


  507. foreverblessed says:

    Ohhh, how great, the Bible read in the living room! I pray that all three of you may delight in listening together!!!
    That God blesses you, all three, with peace, the peace that is from above!

  508. Beloved says:

    Mart wrote the ODB piece today- it is so good, a much needed reminder.

  509. Beloved says:

    Hymn I will Sing of the Mercies

    I will sing of the mercies of the Lord forever,
    I will sing, I will sing
    I will sing of the mercies of the Lord forever,
    I will sing the mercies of the Lord.

    With my mouth will I make known
    Thy faithfulness, Thy faithfulness;
    With my mouth will I make known
    Thy faithfulness to all generations.

    I will sing of the mercies of the Lord forever,
    I will sing, I will sing
    I will sing of the mercies of the LORD

  510. Beloved says:

    Reflect & Pray
    How have others misjudged you, and how did you feel? When have you been critical of others whose pain you didn’t understand?

    Father, like Job’s friends, I’m inclined to assume that the troubles of others are somehow deserved. Please help me live this day in the Spirit of Your Son rather than in the words and thoughts of the accuser.

  511. Beloved says:

    How wonderful to live in an atmosphere of scripture, Regina. Giving thanks to God for where He has placed you on your journey however long it lasts. He has given you physical shelter with running water a bed and a roof over your head. Doesn’t mean it will always be easy as I’ve gone through the same circumstances a few times but God is always near. He hears and answers prayers of His children in due time. Are you able to work?

  512. Regina says:

    Good Evening, All
    I pray that all is well with you and yours.🙏🏽 Steve, thank you for the suggestion of getting help from the Salvation Army. I’ve never considered receiving any type of help from that organization because I don’t know very much (if anything) about it. And I could go faster in the telling of what happened since I left Landlady’s house in March to my current situation now. Lol. I’ve learned throughout the years of my life that women like to give a lot of details and men like to cut to the chase.😌 So, to answer your question, Steve, my story does have a good ending in that I live with my mother, brother and mother’s caregiver now. And while my situation is better, I still don’t have, but I’m praying for, a place of my own. So, let me know (all who have been interested in my life and times) if you want me to provide a lot of detail re: what happened (along the way) to get me to my safe place or if you want me to cut to the chase. I’m ok with either request.🙂

    52 degrees under a clear sky in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,

  513. Regina says:

    Beloved, I don’t live with roommate # 1 and 2 anymore. I moved out of that house in July. I now live with my mother, brother and mother’s caregiver, and now my situation is better than it has been in a long time. And the Lord knows that I’m grateful to Him for my safe place to live, but I still want a place of my own.

  514. Beloved says:

    That’s great Regina, have you tried HUD? It’s subsidized housing.

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