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Within and Beyond Left and Right

What if instead of focusing on a line of degrees from left to right— we think of a circle that, personified in Jesus,  encompasses all good things left and right— while representing a God who conquers his enemies by loving them— and who encourages all who know him to want to do likewise?

Revised 3:15 p.m.

Trying to briefly describe a “centered” way of life… and thought.

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520 Responses to “Within and Beyond Left and Right”

  1. poohpity says:

    I think the problems may lie when one has not spent any time to actually know Jesus so how can it be possible to do likewise. Being tossed to and fro from the right to the left on a slippery slope which are demonically unbecoming teaching, thoughts or thinking about God rather than being within that circle, centered on that which conquers all by knowing and being encouraged by His love?

  2. Beloved says:

    I think you may be right Pooh.

  3. Beloved says:

    John 18 19The high priest then questioned Jesus about his disciples and his teaching.
    20Jesus answered him, “I have spoken openly to the world. I have always taught in synagogues and in the temple, where all Jews come together. I have said nothing in secret.
    21Why do you ask me? Ask those who have heard me what I said to them; they know what I said.”

  4. bratimus says:

    Don’t we as Christ followers get thrown out of the circle, because we are not demonically unbecoming.

    In Christ Jesus name


  5. Beloved says:

    “We aren’t just thrown on this earth like dice tossed across a table. We are lovingly placed here for a purpose.”
    Chuck Swindoll

  6. poohpity says:

    bratimus, can you help me understand what you are saying by your comment?

    I do know that while we were enemies of God (demonically unbecoming) He loved us enough to bring us into the circle of His love and when we accept that I do not believe God will throw us out of that circle.

  7. Beloved says:

    Circle of the unredeemed world.

  8. Beloved says:

    Song by CityAlight

    What love my God would bring You down to earth
    What king would take a low and lonely birth
    Yet to this dark and broken place You came
    To sleep beneath the stars that You had made

    What love my God would send the Way of Life
    To walk the road, rejected and despised
    That You might know the weakness I possess
    And be my rock of strength and righteousness

    O Your love my God like a flood
    As heaven opened up pouring out on us
    O praise the King who came to the world
    In His love like a mighty flood

  9. bratimus says:

    Sometimes my post take a while to come up.

    So I lost the thought I had, I had other daily duties to do.

    With some of Mart’s topics I will get a thought.

    My line of thinking was not compromising ones standing in Christ while trying to show the goodness of Christ.

    For not compromising in faith to Christ we can get push out of the circle.

    I just get thoughts, take them for what they are just a thought.

    I guess the thought is be careful not to compromise ones on standing with Christ in the slippery circle.

    In Christ Jesus name


  10. bratimus says:

    Here is another thing.

    I assume that more people read this then comment.

    So my comments may not be for those that comment in here.

    A while ago I post in here, that I got a message that there was a need to find the Church within the churches.

    Sine then God has place the warning and dangers of Revelation 2-3 first and foremost where my thoughts go.

    I know I wasn’t the only one that got this message.

    This is just try to help people where I might be coming from in my7 thoughts.

    I have to assume that people around the world can read this blog. so not all comments are directed at the commenters.

    Need to watch out for the tares within the circle, to not be choked out.

    In Christ Jesus name


    We work in the faith of the Spirit

  11. Beloved says:

    Jesus the Bread of Life
    …38For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but to do the will of Him who sent Me. 39And this is the will of Him who sent Me, that I shall lose none of those He has given Me, but raise them up at the last day. 40For it is My Father’s will that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in Him shall have eternal life, and I will raise him up at the last day.”…

    Our confidence!

  12. Beloved says:

    John 10:28 NASB 1977
    and I give eternal life to them, and they shall never perish; and no one shall snatch them out of My hand.

    No worries.

  13. Beloved says:


    2Corinthians4 Treasure in Jars of Clay

    7Now we have this treasure in jars of clay to show that this surpassingly great power is from God and not from us. 8We are hard pressed on all sides, but not crushed; perplexed, but not in despair; 9persecuted, but not forsaken; struck down, but not destroyed.

    10We always carry around in our body the death of Jesus, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our body. 11For we who are alive are always consigned to death for Jesus’ sake, so that the life of Jesus may also be revealed in our mortal body.
    See Romans 6:1-14 also

  14. street says:

    Thinking similar to this earlier. Was thinking of a sphere where a sinner is the center, with an infinite number of possible vectors to choose to leave the sphere yet all resulting in death of the sinner. unable to leave. thinking there is one vector that leads to life. the path must come from without the sphere. the path destroyes all other vectors and the sphere. New Life. you remain in the sphere till the Son sets you free..

    thinking, rivers of Living Water. Abundant life. Living Sacrifice, not dead sacrifice.
    New Creation.

    dead in the flesh alive to God

    that grace might rule in righteousness to eternal life in Christ Jesus. Romans 5:22

    you will be the same as me except in the Thrown.

    conformed to His Image. Hope.

  15. street says:

    been thinking about the whole earth is filled with His Glory.

    what earth was the the angelic being speaking of?

    I don’t think he was referring to planet earth.

    from the Scripture Holy Holy Holy is the the Lord God almighty! the whole earth is fill with His Glory.

  16. Beloved says:

    Street what planet do you think the angel was referring to?

  17. Beloved says:

    Several writers use the word “earth”. Praying for wisdom.

  18. street says:

    not a planet but a body, a person, a man sitting on the Thrown of God.

    Thinking of Revelation where John is weeping because there was no one in heaven, on earth, or under the earth worthy to take the scroll with seven seals. where was He? Sitting in plain sight. the cherub could see Him even with His face covered.

  19. street says:

    Thinking of Stephen seeing Jesus standing at the Right Hand of God as he passed before the Face of God. The Lord Jesus our Redeemer and guardian of our souls…may we be found in Him and He in us, Emmanuel.

    20 The one who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon!” Amen! Come, Lord Jesus! 21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all.[al]

  20. street says:

    because of Christ incarnation there is evidence of of God in man, by the life of Jesus.
    In His death there is a revelation that sin has been taken away, the barrier that separate man from God. Pentecost new evidence that God can and dose dwell in and with man again. sure this is not eden, but He promised to return and receive and take us to the place He has prepare for us. like David was told are you the one who will build Me, God, a Dwelling place? Jesus is the foundation and builder of the House of God.

    God continues to make the enemies of Christ a footstool for His Feet.

    Jesus is at rest on the Thrown of God. are we at rest with Him? have we received the peace He provides?

    some could not enter His rest because of disobedience/unbelief.

  21. bratimus says:

    The Earth was made for the wheat, the world brought tares.

    I’m not of the world so I tend to reflect on the Earth.

    In Christ Jesus name


  22. street says:

    you shall live by every Word that proceeds from the Mouth of God.

    The Word was made Flesh and dwelt among us.

    Jesus replied,[f] “I tell you the solemn truth,[g] unless a person is born from above,[h] he cannot see the kingdom of God.”[i]

    John 4:24
    God is spirit, and the people who worship him must worship in spirit and truth.”

    John 14:17
    the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot accept, because it does not see him or know him. But you know him, because he resides with you and will be in you.

  23. Beloved says:

    Strangers and aliens

  24. Beloved says:

    Ephesians 2: 6And God raised us up with Christ and seated us with Him in the heavenly realms in Christ Jesus,

  25. Beloved says:

    Yet earth means ground. Why would they say ground? On earth, peace, goodwill toward men. I’m confused.

  26. Beloved says:

    For Steve

    O Little Town of Bethlehem

    Oh little town of Bethlehem, how still we see thee lie
    Above thy deep and dreamless sleep the silent stars go by
    Yet in thy dark streets shineth, the everlasting light
    The hopes and fears of all the years are met in thee tonight.

    For Christ is born of Mary, and gathered all above
    While mortals sleep the angels keep their watch of wondering love
    Oh morning stars together, proclaim thy holy birth.
    And praises sing to God the king, and peace to men on earth.

  27. saled says:

    “a circle that is personified in Jesus and encompasses all good things left and right” How intriguing!

    Brainstorming what might be examples of this from Jesus’ life. In the 19th chapter of Matthew we have the story of the rich young ruler who lived an almost perfect life, but was saddened when Jesus told him to go and sell what he had and give to the poor. And in Luke chapter 3 John the Baptist puts it a little different. verse 11. “He that hath two coats let him impart to him that hath none; and he that hat food, let him do the same.” I see these two examples on the same circle, just some number of degrees apart. And then when Jesus is anointed by Mary of Bethany and there is mummering about the waste of oil, he says, “Let her alone. Why trouble ye her? She hath wrought a good work on me. For ye have the poor with you always, and whenever you will, you may do them good; but me ye have not always.” I see this as maybe 180 degrees from his advice to the rich young man in Matthew.

    I might name this circle stewardship. Each action representing a God who conquers his enemies by loving them.

  28. street says:

    when God is exalted in the highest then there is peace and good will among mankind.

    the center does matter.

  29. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, indeed, how intriguing!
    What a wonderful view:
    We are in the circle,
    “The circle of life”

    The Life eternal, the spiritual life,

    If we have been united with Him in His death, we will also certainly be united with Him in His resurrection…
    Now if we believe that we have died with Christ, we believe that we will also live with Him
    Rom 6:5,8

  30. foreverblessed says:

    And I just had to smile about this 180° advice Jesus gave, to sell all things and follow Jesus, and buying a years wages to buy perfume to anoint Jesus. “What a waste”, says the natural mind, “what a great thing done to Me” says Jesus.
    That reminds me, that what the Spirit tells me to do, He does not have to tell you what to do.

    To the person, like the rich young man, that cherishes his riches, Jesus tells: go sell all you have.
    But to another person, who does not care about riches, but… really idolises wine, He might say: drink no wine.
    That is the life of the Spirit, being personally for what a person needs.

  31. foreverblessed says:

    I might name this circle stewardship. Each action representing a God who conquers his enemies by loving them.

    That is some profound statement!
    God, destroying His enemies, by making them His friends.

  32. SFDBWV says:

    Obviously after my last post on the previous subject I was never back to the computer, so I was somewhat surprised to see an all-day response to a new topic.

    I will clearly admit I had no idea what the point was about this subject or even what to think of it.

    After reading the thread of comments, still I had no idea what the subject matter really was about. However Saled did produce a good explanation of her view of it.

    My problem is that I can attack it from too many points of view. And if I have to explain using the word “attack” it means to dig into the subject and expound on it.

    What caught my attention was the comment “representing a God who conquers His enemies by loving them…”

    The comment immediately raised up the stark difference between the God of the Old Testament and of Jesus, the God of the new.

    Being a believer in Jesus as Lord and then so adopting His behavior as my own leads me to desire to be of service to others in whatever capacity God places me to do so.

    In spite of how it is received and of how I am treated for it.

    However that is not how the God of Genesis is reported as dealing with any issue.

    Adam disobeyed and was not forgiven. Rather he was cursed with death and a life of struggles and misery for it.

    Was Adam an enemy of God for disobedience, or a victim of it?

    So what or who exactly is an enemy of God?

    Planted in the Garden was this tree whose fruit was forbidden to be eaten. Once eaten Adam and Eve would become aware of the difference between good and evil.

    They didn’t even know the difference between right and wrong until they ate the fruit.

    In today’s law anyone who don’t know the difference between right and wrong is declared insane and innocent of any crime they may have committed.

    They didn’t know what they were doing.

    Does that ring a bell? “Forgive them for they know not what they do.”

    I summed up things pretty well in my last post on the previous subject in that this story is about Jesus as Christ not about us.

    The story does indeed come full *circle* from the “original sin” having been first committed to its being forgiven.

    18 degrees f snow on the ground.


  33. foreverblessed says:

    The circle of stewardship…

    Jesus saved us by die-ing on the Cross.

    In today’s ODB, there is the insight on Revelation 7:9-12:
    According to this view, God’s army is victorious over their enemies by dying a martyr’s death rather than by killing their enemies (see Rev 11:7–13; 12:11; 13:7; 15:2; 21:7). Keener goes on to note that “in this, we are like our Lord.”
    End of quote on insight

    We might pray that we will escape the disaster, Jesus was the One Who faced it, ( in Gethsemane) and got through, because He knew, that by suffering He would save.

    “Dear Lord: help us to see, that by suffering we too have a part in saving the world”

  34. Mart DeHaan says:

    Yeh, I agree. My post lacked enough context to make it helpful. I should have waited a day and found a way of expressing more than a dangling fragment of thought. I guess I was afraid that if I included any direct reference to the religious or political left or right it might stir up the kind of inclinations that are dividing our families, churches, nation, and world.

    So, Steve, in light of your thought about the testaments, would we also agree :-) that the God of Moses loved and forgave in ways that made consequence necessary (Exodus 34:6-7), as Jesus loved and forgave while allowing for the ultimate of all consequences— His crucifixion?

  35. SFDBWV says:

    Mart I think that written all throughout Scripture are clues and hints at not just the “softer” side of God, but of Messiah the Savior and His desire to forgive.

    I will always think there is a bigger story behind the story.

    It is written that angels would like to look into the concept of forgiveness.
    It is written that there is war in heaven and Satan and his angelic followers are cast out.
    Sent into the famous “lake of fire” in the end.

    Where is that heart of forgiveness in that story?

    Interesting also that it is written that we are to judge angels. Personally I don’t want to be responsible for making such an eternal decision. I would rather leave that to our Lord.

    I would like to know what you mean by left and right of center.


  36. poohpity says:

    Jesus taught that mankind judges by the flesh which is not centered on God but even though Jesus did not come to judge but to save “But even if I do judge, My judgment is true; for I am not alone in it, but I and the Father who sent Me. BUT “You know neither Me nor My Father; if you knew Me, you would know My Father also.” So again it would seem that the problem lies because people do not know God so in turn do not know Jesus who’s all encompassing love that conquers His enemies by loving them and if one is centered on that would do likewise.

  37. poohpity says:

    God is the same whether it be in B.C. or A.D. or in eternity. The only constant security I have to cling to and find hope with assurance!

  38. Beloved says:

    Blessed Assurance

    Blessed assurance, Jesus is mine!
    Oh, what a foretaste of glory divine!
    Heir of salvation, purchase of God
    Born of his Spirit, washed in His blood

    This is my story, this is my song
    Praising my Savior all the day long
    This is my story, this is my song
    Praising my Savior all the day long

    Perfect submission, perfect delight
    Visions of rapture now burst on my sight
    Angels descending bring from above
    Echoes of mercy, whispers of love

    This is my story, this is my song
    Praising my Savior all the day long
    This is my story, this is my song
    Praising my Savior all the day long
    Praising my Savior all the day long

  39. Hugger4U says:

    What divides us is spiritual pride. Our war is spiritual and has been ongoing since the fall. There are many in the earth that are being used to do the enemy’s work and don’t know it because they do not know God.

    We, who are God’s people, Christ’s body and bride, are to be occupying and stewarding, making disciples of nations, what He has gifted us to do.

    It’s all there in the WORD.

    Love God, love people, stay cleansed, walk in the Light, worship in Spirit and Truth, do justly and love mercy and walk humbly with thy God, look after widows and orphans, walk by faith not by sight, pray at all times with all kinds of prayers….

    If we are occupied with the things the Lord assigns to us instead of picking apart publicly our own Bodies (the church) we would be a unified Church.

    An example is here on this blog. We all confess Jesus as our Lord and Savior. Anything beyond that can be discussed, debated and argued to death. Notice the progression of how it happens here. We are not all at the same level of maturity, which is fine to those of us who are maturing but some who are not mature always ends up talking down to others which is spiritual pride. Full circle!

    It’s been a busy time around here so not able to post much. Keep the Peace.
    Love to all!

  40. SFDBWV says:

    While allowing for Mart to sort out things I can give my thoughts on left and right of Christian thinking and behavior in today’s headlines and news stories, and perhaps my own struggles at being torn both ways.

    Willie Nelson has a song out there called, “Beer For My Horses”. He and Toby Keith even did a little movie with the same title and premise.

    A verse in the songs goes something like this, “My grand pappy told my pappy, back in my day son, a man had to answer for all the wicked things he had done, take all the rope in Texas find a tall oak tree hang up all them bad boys for all the people to see.”

    There is a lot of professing Christians who would agree with that comment.

    At the same time there are a great number of women and men who feel that capital punishment is inhumane and wrong, while at the same time agreeing with abortion on demand. I am certain within that group are professing Christians.

    Sounds confusing doesn’t it?

    How could the same group of people who feel taking the life of a murderer is wrong, while at the same time feel that taking the life of an innocent unborn child is ok?

    This is just one issue that divides us as not only people, but I am sure within the Body of Christ.

    Going back to that Old Testament, a murderer was to be executed. In fact my Living Bible goes so far as to say, if not, our land would stink.

    Still staying within the Old Testament there is a list of things God hates.

    I am sure that there are things you who read this hate, just as I am sure there are things that I do.

    It is written that vengeance belongs to the Lord. So are we then to walk away as did the men who were ready to stone the adulteress and leave the matter to God?

    Be honest, please, does that satisfy your desire for justice?

    A few days ago in our local paper was the story of a man from New York City who was arrested for the murder of another man in Cumberland Maryland. He was arrested as he was fleeing from the house where he had shot the man and then set the house on fire.

    The murdered man died from the combination of the gun shot and trauma from the burns on his body.

    So what do we do as a society? Put this murderer in prison along with thousands of others to live out his days and perhaps even gain a release? Or as Willie Nelson sang, a short rope and tall tree, for all the would be murderers to see?

    Left or right what is in the center?


  41. bratimus says:

    The center of the circle would have to be Jesus, if this is a circle that personifies Jesus.

    This circle won’t be complete or done, until the return of Jesus.

    Humans are dealing with this circle right now, and you know how humans are at time, not perfect.

    In Christ Jesus name


  42. street says:

    Jesus crosses the line over and over again, calling people back to what it means to live as the people of God.4 We read of God’s requirements in Micah 6:6–8, ‘To act justly and to love mercy and to walk humbly with your God’. James writes of true religion as being ‘quick to listen, slow to speak, and slow to become angry … look[ing] after orphans and widows in their distress and … keep[ing] oneself from being polluted by the world’.5 Jesus would love it if we would take away from these readings some new thoughts about what it really means to live for Him. And to put them into practice.

    crossing the line? failing at the law or are you failing at my expectations?

    this commentary is from scripture union today about keeping the Sabbath..

    sometimes I do not explain there are two different devotionals one is called discovery and the other encounter. this is from encounter.

  43. street says:

    thinking about the teachers of law. they can only offer us judgment and condemnation, contrast that with what Jesus offers.

    in reference to the God of the Old Testament and the New Testament, He is the same God doesn’t change. for some I pray you can sleep tonight. better yet find rest.

    look for grace and mercy in Christ Jesus our and their LORD even when they do not know.

    would it be possible to know everything about God? seems to me Jesus is enough.

    yet He wants us to know suffering of love for love suffers much.

    love without God is empty.

    more fragments sorry

    seek first and these will be added, wonder what is added today? love joy peace patients kindness goodness faithfulness gentleness self-control

  44. Beloved says:

    I suddenly remembered this at 3am.

    “He drew a circle that shut me out- Heretic, rebel, a thing to flout. But love and I had the wit to win: We drew a circle and took him In!” ― Edwin Markham.

  45. Beloved says:

    I’m building a gazebo (puzzle) singing spiritual songs and the LORD keeps telling me to stop and post this: love keeps no record of being wronged.
    Its like Lightning to me.

    Why am I here at all? To love. On this blog. Yes! We who are In Christ with Christ in us have a sphere (circle) of influence mapped out for us. Reach outside our “selves” to love others to Christ.

  46. Beloved says:

    One world church- the coming of anti christ.
    Saw some videos of the current agenda of the Catholic Church and heard a couple popes speaking to spread the message that what’s important is to circle everyone in the world together by doing good and loving everyone no matter whether they are religious or not. A world peace that they say is Gods desire by blending the churches together into one.

    Although it sounded good and wonderful (Disney land) it just missed the mark as far as Jesus and the message He tells us regarding who He is and why He came.

    In Jesus’ circle the doorway is very narrow. Otherwise the whole world would try to sneak in and break down the opening when He comes to judge the world. I never knew you, He will say.

  47. foreverblessed says:

    To think about a circle:
    So good!
    We are in through the Gate, we were baptised in His death, so that we can be seated in the heavenly realm with Him.Rom 6:1-11,

    Instead of thinking of walking on a rope, where we can fall off on the left side and on the right side, down in the deep.
    We are IN Him, His arms beneath us.

  48. foreverblessed says:

    Left and right.
    Last night I visited a friend who is in the hospital, recovering from a fall, with head injury.
    I believe I have asked prayers for her, because her headaches were so bad. Headaches are gone, thank God!

    She was telling that she had been home, and seen how she could cope in the house, her husband had tried to keep the housekeeping up. But the washing of the clothes, was not done as she wanted.

    She said: “he has washed my clothes on the right side, and I had want them to be washed on the left side.”

  49. foreverblessed says:

    There is one thing in going with that One church, (that is the left side lol) and the other thing is: being there and praying intercessory prayer, that every church goer, will have a personal relation with Jesus, through the Cross.(the right side 🤣)
    There are many children of God in the Catholic church, God loves them, I personally believe that God wants to unite the individual Christians, and He knows which one, I cannot see in the heart.
    Even when someone has wrong doctrines, God looks at the heart, as He did with me.

    Now a personal note, for those interested:
    I took a long time to have my thinking corrected:
    The Sabbath and Holy Days are part of the Law of Moses, they are about days, time, Paul calls them: principles of the world, that have no power to change our hearts, and sensual indulgence Col 2 says.
    They are a shadow, but the reality is in Christ.
    I did not want to follow the shadow, but I wanted to live in the Reality, that is in Christ!
    (In the ODB there is a person who posts that we open our eyes to the Sabbath and Holy Days, and I can read the reasoning: that is how I thought. May God be merciful)

  50. SFDBWV says:

    Still trying to stay within the concept of Christ being the circle and how believers see extremes to the left and right all the while still staying within the circle.

    A “centered” way of life…

    Billions and billions of people all being distinct and each possessing their own blended personalities.

    Is it even possible to even think there can ever be a 100% consensus?

    No, there is going to be varying degrees in the entire 360 degree circle whereas believers find themselves with regards to their faith.

    With the influence of faith at the center of their hearts every view of every event in life is how it is seen, accepted, rejected, defended or debated.

    How often I have stated how I envy people who can be comfortable staying in the center by not overthinking everything or even concerning themselves with the events of the world going on around them.

    Personally I can’t do that. I am affected by the world and so have thoughts, opinions and often find myself embattled with it.

    As a believer I may not be a citizen of this world, but I am still in it and still have to deal with all of its pitfalls, slippery slopes and stone walls.

    All the while holding on to what faith I have awaiting the rescue promised in the Word.


  51. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Steve, thinkin about thinking, thinking about the Word of God.
    May God give you, and me, peace of mind anyway!

    One example of me thinking: in my church of upbringing, they preached that the dead are dead, they “sleep” and wait for the Resurrection.
    When I came out, 26 years ago, that “doctrine” slowly had to be dismantled.
    But, ohhhh.
    The thought occurred: all these lost souls, they are not asleep, but wandering in the dark, lost…..
    Just the thought made me so anxious. (I think I have shared this before) But the story is precious to me. For two weeks I was in dismay! Pouring my heart out to God, how terrible this was.
    One day I was practicing on the piano the song: ” dancing on the streets of gold”
    About Revelation 22
    And there came down from above great peace, and it filled me, and comforted me, and put me to rest. The Peace above all understanding!
    It is well!

    The amazing thing is that God did not explain anything to me. Just giving me peace about that matter.
    I pray He gives me His peace about all other matters I do not understand, and for you too.

  52. poohpity says:

    Centering our lives around Jesus may look like a community of believers who’s focus is on Christ which will be reflected in thoughts and deeds.

    “Community. What does that word bring to mind? Jesus prayed that the community of believers would be known for unity, joy, growth in truth, and urgency of mission (John 17).

    UNITY. ‘Protect them..so that they may be one as we are one’ (v.11) Jesus asked the Father to let unity be a defining mark of the church. Unity DOESN’T mean uniformity; we all bring our respective personalities to the mix. But in our diversity, we can still demonstrate love to the world around us.

    JOY. “May (they) have the full measure of my joy within them” (v.13) One of the greatest benefits of community is the encouragement it brings. Believing friends are there to remind us that our joy can only be satisfied by our Creator.

    GROWTH IN TRUTH. ‘Protect them from the evil one’ (v.15) Our Christian community has the unique ability to confront and correct us when we stray from the truth. It’s the role of our community to help us again fix our eyes on the gospel.

    URGENCY OF MISSION. ‘I have sent them into the world’ (v.18). Christians were never intended to isolate from the outside world. Jesus calls us to live in the community (Matt 28:18-20). Our primary relationships with believers give weight and urgency to our other relationships (unbelieving friends). We gather to pray with and for one another. Then we go OUTSIDE the church to serve, love, and invite others into a relationship with Jesus.”

    by Danny Franks

    It seems that may be what “Within and Beyond Left and right” may also be about being centered on the personification of Jesus.

  53. SFDBWV says:

    Because I like to share the things I like with my friends, I would like to introduce you to another band I have discovered on “YouTube”.

    “First Aid Kit”

    A pair of Swedish sisters who sing folk music. I laugh at the fact they speak better English than I do.

    Will tell you they are folk singers not Christian music, but I like the melody of their music and their distinctive sound.

    Like our friend Viv, I appreciate music and see it as a gift from God; received as such and I am always uplifted no matter the genre.


  54. Beloved says:

    Forever Colossians2 speaks of the same struggles you have had with your church as I was reading this morning. Thankful you have overcome it.

  55. Beloved says:

    Steve I listened to a song and enjoy their Indie type singing but I’ve always listened to words more. Sad there’s no Life to their music, for me. Christian Celtic performers satisfy with words and music for me. We are all different in our likes and dislikes aren’t we!

  56. bratimus says:

    With this circle, at times we might need to color outside the lines to bring some into the circle.

    In Christ Jesus name


  57. Beloved says:

    Focusing on a circle rather than a continuum.

    Scripture only mentions a few times about how to treat those along a continuum of the faith, to value them and submit by not tearing apart but by regarding them as better, in humility.

    Love is spoken by Jesus without regard to status, importance or spiritual growth. Love one another as I have loved you! Including your enemies! That’s pretty much everyone. :-)

  58. Beloved says:

    Coloring outside the lines; the Circle already glows with the light of Truth and grace I’m thinking. Like Christmas lights we should attract good attention if not curiosity. Or fear. I’ve seen it all.

  59. Beloved says:

    Yesterday I went shopping and in the parking lot saw an elderly woman thanking a young man profusely for carrying her groceries to her car saying that someday she would like give him a tip. I smiled as I heard her and seeing me suddenly said no wait I want to tip you now! Oh the power of love is so beautiful and blesses all who come in contact with it! This same young man carried my groceries and was very thankful for my meager tip. Love is not measurable. A smile a couple bucks or whatever.

  60. Beloved says:

    Within and Beyond

    “Everyone who is progressive and does not abide in the teaching of Christ, does not have God.” So here is a use of the word progress or going on ahead in the sense of leaving true teaching behind. In other words, a person can forsake the Christian faith, not just by swerving to the right or to the left, but by going ahead, straight ahead, and leaving behind the truth and grasping for things that are coming — things that do not fit with the “faith . . . once for all delivered to the saints,” though they may fit the spirit of the age (Jude 3).
    John Piper. Desiring God

  61. poohpity says:

    How can we take what we have experienced and gained within that circle out as Jesus gave us the great commission to go out and make disciples if we only stay isolated in the circle rather than taking out what we received from within that circle which is what we are given to do?

    Romans 10: But how can they call on him to save them unless they believe in him? And how can they believe in him if they have never heard about him? And how can they hear about him unless someone tells them? 15 And how will anyone go and tell them without being sent? That is why the Scriptures say, “How beautiful are the feet of messengers who bring good news!”

  62. poohpity says:

    A centered way of life is full of many things to do in the name of Jesus.

  63. SFDBWV says:

    “Centered way of life”…

    What do you think is a Christ centered way of life?

    Being religious, sounding religious, dressing religiously, and acting religious?

    Is that how you think others see Christ in you?

    Revelation chapters 2 and 3 speak specifically as to what pleases Christ and what don’t.

    We are in the world so that the light of Christ can be seen and heard by our interaction with others.

    That light is not about judging others and quoting Scripture, rather it is about how we show love, tolerance, forgiveness, kindness and fellowship with all.

    When people see something different in you is when the opportunity is presented to tell them what it is.


  64. poohpity says:

    Religious has nothing to do with a Christ centered life that is man’s attempt by outward acts of self righteousness which seems to only cause most often people to look down on others for not fitting into their boxes.

    Living a Christ-shaped life is as Jesus describes in Matt 5-7. I know you do not like quoting scripture Steve but how else and from whom else do we learn about God and how are we able to practice for the job He has given us if we do not know Him or His word.

    1. The invitation to live a Christ-shaped life–Matt 5:1-12 NLT

    2. Our calling Matt 5:13-19 NLT

    3. Our relationships Matt 5:20-48 NLT

    4. Our practices Matt 6:1-7:6 NLT

    5. Our choices Matt 7:7-23 NLT

    6. What we center our lives on Matt 7:24-29 NLT

    It seems that people see that we are resilient when faced with life’s trials, tribulations and sorrows without turning to anger or hatred or a hardened heart that is unable to love God or our neighbor as our selves. That is the light that shines in the darkness. How we treat those who disagree with us or are our enemies it is because of who is centered in our lives and it takes practice and we will fail but to let others know that we are not perfect but our hope, faith and lives are found centered around Jesus and His grace, mercy and forgiveness.

  65. poohpity says:

    So we do not practice religion per-say we grow in our relationship with God and we do that by reading His word and putting it into practice with the help of the Holy Spirit always remembering humbly we are no better than anyone else even if they insinuate they are more mature or spirit filled than anyone else that just shows they really are not.

  66. SFDBWV says:

    Once again because I like to share things I like with my friends, I would like to share two songs, as I have before, on YouTube.

    Dolly Parton singing “He’s Alive” and Enya singing “O Come, O Come Emmanuel”.


  67. Beloved says:

    Response to 7:06 am post

    Ok..I get your reasoning.

  68. Beloved says:

    But who are we to judge?

  69. Beloved says:

    Another of Gods servants.

  70. Beloved says:

    Actually who am I to judge?

  71. street says:

    a Christ Centered life is a living sacrifice where the old man dies and Christ is formed. a new creation. a work of God where the Glory belong to God.

    thinking of a broken heart and thirst and hunger for righteousness.

    a peacemaker, yet we are told in Matthew 10:34. “Do not think that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I have not come to bring peace but a sword!

    11 Thus we must make every effort to enter that rest, so that no one may fall by following the same pattern of disobedience. 12 For the word of God is living and active and sharper than any double-edged sword, piercing even to the point of dividing soul from spirit, and joints from marrow; it is able to judge the desires and thoughts of the heart. 13 And no creature is hidden from God,[a] but everything is naked and exposed to the eyes of him to whom we must render an account.

    I believe we are to judge. judgement begins with the house/dwelling place of God.
    the self. just remember we do such a poor job of judging. not that we should not do it, but do it correctly. therefor a helper has been given along with much grace and mercy. all of which we are in desperate need of.

    if you abide in Me and My Word abides in you…….

    hold me together Lord, the broken and fragmented pieces of which you have injured in your love and faithfulness. heal us and make us One.

  72. Beloved says:

    It occurs to me that without the Cross we are unable to judge ourselves. (My “self”.

  73. bratimus says:

    With this circle we have, their is a comfort problem, and then you just start preaching to the choir.
    If we go back to my first comment sometimes we have to be thrown out of the circle and color out side the lines, preaching to the choir gets us no where in spreading that Gospel.

    In Christ Jesus name


  74. poohpity says:

    The choir may not have harmony in their beliefs or know the Gospel but sing off key to their own song. That is how choirs are usually until the choir director intervenes.

    “Not everyone who calls out to me, ‘Lord! Lord!’ will enter the Kingdom of Heaven. Only those who actually do the will of my Father in heaven will enter. On judgment day many will say to me, ‘Lord! Lord! We prophesied in your name and cast out demons in your name and performed many miracles in your name.’ But I will reply, ‘I never knew you. Get away from me, you who break God’s laws.’

  75. street says:

    I said something yesterday day that stunned me.

    All are ministers, but not all minister.

    Apart from Jesus you can do nothing.

    All things are permissible, but not all things are profitable.

    16 “I, Jesus, have sent my angel to testify to you about these things for the churches. I am the root and the descendant of David, the bright morning star!”[ai] 17 And the Spirit and the bride say, “Come!” And let the one who hears say: “Come!” And let the one who is thirsty come; let the one who wants it take the water of life free of charge.

    18 I testify to everyone who hears the words of the prophecy contained in this book: If anyone adds to them, God will add to him the plagues described[aj] in this book. 19 And if anyone takes away from the words of this book of prophecy, God will take away his share in the tree of life[ak] and in the holy city that are described in this book.

    20 The one who testifies to these things says, “Yes, I am coming soon!” Amen! Come, Lord Jesus! 21 The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all.[al]

  76. Beloved says:

    I had to look up “you who break Gods laws.”

    Matthew 13:41
    English Standard Version
    41 The Son of Man will send his angels, and they will gather out of his kingdom all causes of sin and all law-breakers,

    Psalm 5:5
    English Standard Version
    5 The boastful shall not stand before your eyes;
    you hate all evildoers

  77. plumbape says:

    The wine is not as sweet

    unless you you have have the bitter

    hi Deb and Steve and forever blessed

    don’t know many of you but I love everybody here

    Mike the ape in Indy

    wish I lived where you do Pooh

  78. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Indy guy!
    May God comfort you, in this family festival times!
    Bratimus, thanks for explaining the colouring outside the circle!
    I was wondering what you meant by it.
    Yes, we are to go out in the world!!!
    That’s why I like reading My Utmost, being encouraged to know who we are in Christ.
    That when we are IN Him, we are not even conscious, when we spread the perfume of Jesus.

    We can encourage one another, to be Christ centered.

  79. foreverblessed says:

    Yesterday I was part of a choir, that needed singers, to do a Christmas concert.
    It was wonderful.
    The Gospel is preached through all the songs we sang.
    What a great thing!
    That Jesus, our Saviour has come to the world, that sounds all over the world during this season!

  80. poohpity says:

    Michael, I wish you did too. We would have a blast. There are always apartments available but we do have some very hot summers but 4 months out of 12 aint bad really.

    forever, I just enjoy music so much and the stories that musicians tell about their relationship and experiences with the Lord. I have always wondered what the music was like that went with all the lyrics in the bible.

    bratimus, I still wish I understood what you are saying about coloring outside the lines maybe if you gave me an example because sometimes I am pretty thick between the ears and when in person it is easy to ask for clarification and not ruffle feathers.

  81. poohpity says:

    If one really thinks about it Jesus in a way colored outside the lines and presented a topsy turvy way of living and thinking. For instance being kind to those who insult you, call you names or hang you from a Cross.

  82. poohpity says:

    But Jesus being the personification of God invited us into the center of His love so that we can be a reflection of that centered life.

  83. Beloved says:

    Peace with God, peace on earth goodwill toward man.
    Psalm 139:
    17How precious to me are your thoughts, God!
    How vast is the sum of them!
    18Were I to count them,
    they would outnumber the grains of sand—
    when I awake, I am still with you.

    Joyful joyful we adore thee
    God of glory
    God of love!

  84. foreverblessed says:

    Peace with God and goodwill towards men!
    Because of Jesus, Who stood in our place, to die for us, so that we could live in Him.

    Today’s ODB is written by Mart!
    About Heroes, tyrants and Jesus.

    The story of Beethoven, I loved it when I first heard of it:
    He liked Napoleon so much! A new era was dawning! Modern times, end of feudal system.
    But the Napoleon crowns himself as an emperor. What?! And there goes the name of Napoleon on Beethoven’s third symphony.

    But Jesus, He does not take up a seat on a throne, instead ends on a cross. To save us! I pray that this Christmas season many will have their eyes opened that they need a Savior, and that He is Jesus.
    Goodwill towards men.

  85. street says:

    26 Vindicate me, O Lord,
    for I have integrity,[b]
    and I trust in the Lord without wavering.
    2 Examine me, O Lord, and test me.
    Evaluate my inner thoughts and motives.[c]
    3 For I am ever aware of your faithfulness,[d]
    and your loyalty continually motivates me.[e]

  86. street says:

    17 “As for those who consecrate and ritually purify themselves so they can follow their leader and worship in the sacred orchards,[a] those who eat the flesh of pigs and other disgusting creatures, like mice[b]—they will all be destroyed together,”[c] says the Lord. 18 “I hate their deeds and thoughts! So I am coming[d] to gather all the nations and ethnic groups;[e] they will come and witness my splendor. 19 I will perform a mighty act among them[f] and then send some of those who remain to the nations—to Tarshish, Pul,[g] Lud[h] (known for its archers[i]), Tubal, Javan,[j] and to the distant coastlands[k] that have not heard about me or seen my splendor. They will tell the nations of my splendor.

  87. street says:

    18 Why must I continually suffer such painful anguish?
    Why must I endure the sting of their insults like an incurable wound?
    Will you let me down when I need you,
    like a brook one goes to for water, but that cannot be relied on?”[a]

    19 Because of this, the Lord said,[b]

    “You must repent of such words and thoughts!
    If you do, I will restore you to the privilege of serving me.[c]
    If you say what is worthwhile instead of what is worthless,
    I will again allow you to be my spokesman.[d]
    They must become as you have been.
    You must not become like them.[e]
    20 I will make you as strong as a wall to these people,
    a fortified wall of bronze.
    They will attack you,
    but they will not be able to overcome you.
    For I will be with you to rescue you and deliver you,”[f]
    says the Lord.

  88. street says:

    2 Chronicles 7:14
    if my people, who belong to me, humble themselves, pray, seek to please me, and repudiate their sinful practices, then I will respond from heaven, forgive their sin, and heal their land.

  89. Beloved says:

    James 4:6
    But the grace that God gives is even stronger. As the scripture says, “God resists the proud, but gives grace to the humble.”

    I was just listening to a conversation between DeYoung and Piper about the holiness of God and heard this: that true repentance is like when the body vomits. Think about that! I for one hate to vomit. We say we love God but are we truly loving Him enough to vomit out our sinful pleasures and act like the new creation we are if we are in Christ? Humility is not easy for proud people full of darkness.

  90. Beloved says:

    In Revelation 3:16 God warns that the lukewarmness of their church members makes Him sick to his stomach- like tainted water- makes one sick and vomiting ensues. (You can google about their water supply). Rethinking this verse I see a loving God unwilling to let sin enter His kingdom. I used to see it as disgust with people. It’s sin that disgusts Him. And my conclusion from this is that it pains Him deeply. Like vomiting is disgusting and painful.
    Bratimus I’m treading on your territory now. :-)

  91. bratimus says:

    You know one thing that happens when you color outside the lines of the circle?

    You can enlarge the circle!

    In Christ Jesus name


  92. Beloved says:

    He can enlarge the circle

    22 Note then the kindness and the severity of God: severity toward those who have fallen, but God’s kindness to you, (K)provided you continue in his kindness. Otherwise (L)you too will be cut off.
    23 And (M)even they, if they do not continue in their unbelief, will be grafted in, for God has the power to graft them in again.
    24 For if you were cut from what is by nature a wild olive tree, and grafted, contrary to nature, into a cultivated olive tree, how much more will these, the natural branches, be grafted back into their own olive tree.

  93. Beloved says:

    For Christians the wreath represents eternity. Jesus wore a crown of thorns (circle). Representative of the death of death?

  94. SFDBWV says:

    I am simply sick at heart over the death and destruction seen from the tornados in Kentucky and elsewhere. Little babies and small children’s lives taken as well as adults trying to protect them.

    Just can’t ignore the ugly in life.


  95. foreverblessed says:

    Yes, indeed, it is just horrible!
    There is so much evil in the world. If God would not protect us, I think there would have been much more tragedies.
    I was thinking there was a Psalm, that says: if God was not on our side, we would have been consumed.
    But this looks so evil.
    I pray that God may have some good out of it.
    Prayer is so important, today on ODB it is about prayer, there is a link to a prayer Bible study, 10 lessons:


    Sometimes, after a tragedy, you may hear someone say that they are “sending their thoughts and prayers.” And just as often you’ll hear others respond critically that “thoughts and prayers are not enough”—and by that they mean that action is needed. But what if prayer is action? Action that is greater and deeper and more powerful than we could possibly realize?

    I’m James Banks, the author of several books about prayer, a pastor, and a writer for Our Daily Bread. I’m looking forward to talking to you about prayer, because I believe that prayer, the way God intends it to be, is an adventure. Just imagine: the God of the universe, who spoke the stars into existence, wants us to talk to Him. He wants us to get to know Him and to have a relationship with Him. He wants us to see things that will only happen if we pray.

    “Why pray?” is the title for our lesson today because sometimes we really can wonder if prayer makes any difference. And we’re going to talk candidly about that today and in the lessons that follow. Pblessings that God has for us if we do not pray. Imagine a surprise party where God has everything planned if we will just show up. But if we choose to run our lives in our own strength and go our own way, we miss the party. We miss the good He wants to do in and through and for us. Of course that analogy is imperfect because prayer is about so much more than a party for us. God wants to catch us up in the wonder of who He is so that we delight in Him. God even allows for the interaction of our wills with His own when we pray—that’s an amazing thing—so that we can sometimes have a powerful say in things that happen in this world.

    End of quote

  96. foreverblessed says:

    This really is so encouraging, that our prayers matter. I know they do, but then the word comes: you have got to do something, James 2:16-17, and then I feel obliged to do something, while God is working on the prayer, doing a work in a person’s heart, that takes time, then I don’t wait, and act too soon.
    Wait wait wait on the Lord, that was the topic yesterday on ODB.

  97. foreverblessed says:

    Psalm 124:1-8
    1 If the Lord had not been on our side—
    let Israel say—
    2 if the Lord had not been on our side
    when people attacked us,
    3 they would have swallowed us alive
    when their anger flared against us;
    4 the flood would have engulfed us,
    the torrent would have swept over us,
    5 the raging waters
    would have swept us away.

    6 Praise be to the Lord,
    who has not let us be torn by their teeth.
    7 We have escaped like a bird
    from the fowler’s snare;
    the snare has been broken,
    and we have escaped.
    8 Our help is in the name of the Lord,
    the Maker of heaven and earth.

  98. poohpity says:

    Living a centered life we are warned that evil touches every life in some form or another. “Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.”

    The second beatitude builds on our mental recognition of our poverty of spirit by adding an emotional response of sorrow. When we face the evil in our own lives, it saddens us; when we face the evil in the world—that, too, touches our emotions with grief. The evil may come from ourselves, from others, or from sources unknown. In any case, when we honestly mourn evil words, evil deeds, God sees our sorrow and comforts us with the knowledge that it will not always be this way. We have hope.

  99. Beloved says:

    I think of Habakkuk3 in times of destruction. LORD remember mercy.

  100. Beloved says:

    After watching video of the tornado that traveled over 200 miles and the destruction of life and property I asked myself was that Gods finger?

  101. Beloved says:

    My Utmost is very good today! (14)

  102. SFDBWV says:

    Matt and I had doctor’s appointments yesterday. As we left to go I stopped at the Post Office to get the mail and spoke with a lady friend I know here in town and was very saddened to learn her 44 year old daughter has cancer. It’s in her lungs, back and hip.

    Her daughter’s name is Penny.

    Telling her how sorry I was she told me they are hopeful. And thanked me for my offer of prayers.

    The day before yesterday I learned that another young man, whom I have known his entire life, is in the university hospital with kidney failure. Sent from our local hospital to the university hospital days after his mother passed away, both in the same hospital at the same time. His condition worsening.

    His name is Norman.

    Our doctor is an old high school friend of Matt’s and as we spoke of the matter together we all three agreed that life just isn’t fair.

    He recounted how angry he was when his mother contracted cancer, suffered and died. She having overcome such difficulties growing up to become the head nurse at a local hospital, and then at a relatively young age dying.
    No life isn’t fair.

    I think the best any of us can do is be the best we can be to others while we journey along this difficult road we call life. Always remembering that everyone feels the same emotions as do we.

    Be a friend, share a kind word, help if you can and always show love in your actions.

    Never knowing if this may be the last time you get the opportunity to.


  103. foreverblessed says:

    The names of these people, I put them on my prayerlist, Steve!
    That God may bless them. It sounds so like a standard prayer, but….
    If I seek Jesus, His Face, more than His Hands, (Hands asking Jesus to do something for us) But we are His children, we can come into the Holy of Holies, because of the Blood of Jesus, and through the veil, that is the body of Christ,(Hebrews 10:20) and there we are in the inner Sanctuary, just where we are in our little home, to come to the Father, and be still, sit there, and see where the Holy Spirit moves, and searches in our heart, the people that we have concerns about, suffering people.
    May God bless them! In Jesus’ Name we pray

  104. foreverblessed says:

    Yesterday I was in the Nursing Home, they had asked us, my collegue and me, if we could draw some pictures on the windows, for Christmass decorations. We did the first part last week, when I had a long conversation with my collegue, Hannie is her name, about me having been in a sect-like church as a child, not having celebrated Christmass at all. And about Christianity, about Jesus, (I believe I have shared it here, she did not now if it was a myth, and I told her, He touched my heart, for me He is real) Hannie has been raised catholic, and knows all the traditions they have very well.
    But yesterday we were there again to make some more drawings, and there comes an old lady, she tells us; What I miss in all the dcorations, not only our drawings but with the Christmass trees:
    “Where is the crib, with Mary and Joseph and cattle and angels?”
    Then we answered, well that is quite an extensive drawing, and difficult to do.
    She answered, do you want to come over to my apartment, and I will show you what is in the crib. So we went with her, and had a little talk, about the essence of the Christmass decorations, the crib, where Jesus lays.
    I was just thanking God in my mind, blessing His work, that He had send this lady to us, and that He cares about Hannie.
    When we cycled back home she said to me, talking about how we would make a drawing with Jesus in the crib.
    She says: “The crib has a form of a cross”
    I do not understand what she means by that, then we stop:
    With pen and paper, she made a little drawing of the crib, a cross, wherein the baby Jesus lay, Mary always on the left side, with her hands folded as if in prayer, and Joseph on the right side (talk about left and right side LOL)
    Add some sheep too, she adds, and no more, that is enough.
    So I agreed that I would make a drawing, and show her.

    If anyone has a prayer for her, thanks a lot!
    God is listening to our prayers!

  105. foreverblessed says:

    This is totally of topic, but I share here aboutmy past in a christian sect church:
    ODB, I shared some things there, about my testimony, on December 11, there is at the end of the comments a person who shares how he is studying the bible, and finding out that we still have to keep the Torah, right at the end of the comments, at the bottom you can read how he reasons.
    I look at it, and I see the teaching that I received as a child, this is how I was taught. Rom 7:1-4 is not about the Law as a whole, but only about the Law of marriage, connecting it to Hosea where God divorces Israel as his wife,
    So our conclusions was: We did not die to the Law, but to the Law of marriage!
    Just to show you how our reasoning was, as I see now clearly, that Paul really talks about the Law, the Law of Moses. And we died to it.
    So that we could marry another: Jesus
    Gloria Deo!

  106. SFDBWV says:

    Thank you Foreverblessed, I will add Hannie to my list as well.

    Your love and compassion show clearly here as does your creative gifts.

    Christ the “Creator”, we a shadow image of Him.


  107. poohpity says:

    I can not imagine this world if we received what we actually deserved rather than the grace and mercy we have been shown instead. Who could live?

  108. street says:

    Living a centered life we are warned that evil touches every life in some form or another. “Blessed are those who mourn, for they will be comforted.”

    27 Zion will be delivered with justice,
    her penitent ones with righteousness.
    28 But rebels and sinners will both be broken,
    and those who forsake the Lord will perish.
    ISAIAH 1:

    We are those who have died to sin; Romans 6:2

    if you have died you have life in something else. where does that life come from?
    do we present ourselves to this source of life? what or who is this life we receive?

  109. street says:

    thinking about the difficulty of life and pain and suffering. the unfairness. the bold questions brought about by sever discomfort. thinking of the Light of the World coming into darkness accepting pain and suffering being offered as a sacrifice for sinners that would give them hope and true life.

    the pain increases when you look to self, yet decreases when you look to God in Christ Jesus.

    some things you have to find on your own, but not without a mediator.

    19 Even if the forest is destroyed[a]
    and the city is annihilated,[b]
    20 you will be blessed,
    you who plant seed by all the banks of the streams,[c]
    you who let your ox and donkey graze.[d]
    Isaiah 32:19-20

  110. Beloved says:

    Prayer request please. I have been very sick this past week please pray I will be able to take some people to the local food shelf tomorrow as promised. Thank you friends.

  111. Beloved says:

    I was delighted to find a fruit basket by my door this morning from a local church as I’ve been too sick to go to the store and craving fresh citrus!

  112. foreverblessed says:

    Praying for you, Beloved!
    And what a sweet gesture of these church people! Thank God for that!

    And I had decided not to draw the ox and the donkey in the Christmas scene.
    Then Street gives Isaiah 32:19-20

    God takes care of everything! Also now in this modern life, not food for the donkey and ox, but fresh food for Beloved.
    May God heal you and make you strong!

  113. foreverblessed says:

    “the pain increases when you look to self, yet decreases when you look to God in Christ Jesus.”

    That is some truth.
    If we got what we deserved! But Jesus took that upon Him, the agony of Gethsemane, and the following right to the Cross.
    How blessed we are because of Him!

  114. Beloved says:

    I appreciate the prayers so much.
    Yesterday I remembered that sometimes things must get worse before they get better. Physical or spiritual surgery, if required, are painful yet joy comes in the morning! Feeling a little better tonight.

    Watching history happen on YouTube with tornadoes in Minnesota and surrounding states. First time in December as far as has been recorded. I think my area may narrowly miss any events. Just rain and wind so far then tomorrow big temperature drop and ice to deal with! It’s a great time to be retired!

  115. foreverblessed says:

    May God bless you, and the people you were to help. May He have His eyes on them!

    Yesterday on ODB the scripture insight was about 1 Cor 12:12-21, and this is the quote:

    In Paul’s first New Testament letter to the Corinthians, he describes two ways his readers have been overlooking the body of Christ. First, they were ignoring the significance of sharing bread and wine in remembrance of His shed blood and broken body (1 Corinthians 11:29). In the process, they were also failing to live for the good of one another. Paul went on to explain that the Holy Spirit had gifted them to work together, just as members of our human bodies help and depend on each other (12:12–27). Paul sees his readers as members of the body of Christ brought together to share the heart of love he describes in chapter 13.

    By: Mart DeHaan”

    I share this because Mart had given the topic of the meaning of the blood and body of Jesus, that Thomas Aquinas searched for.

  116. SFDBWV says:

    Watching Annika Norlin sing Leonard Cohen’s “Hallelujah” is a visual explanation as to how music touches the soul.

    Hope that experience is accentuated in our heavenly home.


  117. Beloved says:

    Do any know this song? I learned it in the third grade.

    Good King Wenceslas

    Good King Wenceslas looked out
    On the Feast of Stephen
    When the snow lay round about
    Deep and crisp and even
    Brightly shone the moon that night
    Though the frost was cruel
    When a poor man came in sight
    Gathering winter fuel

    Hither, page, and stand by me,
    If thou knowst it, telling
    Yonder peasant, who is he?
    Where and what his dwelling?
    Sire, he lives a good league hence,
    Underneath the mountain
    Right against the forest fence
    By Saint Agnes fountain.

    Bring me flesh and bring me wine
    Bring me pine logs hither
    Thou and I shall see him dine
    When we bear them thither.
    Page and monarch, forth they went
    Forth they went together
    Through the rude winds wild lament
    And the bitter weather

    Sire, the night is darker now
    And the wind blows stronger
    Fails my heart, I know not how
    I can go no longer.
    Mark my footsteps, good my page
    Tread thou in them boldly
    Thou shall find the winters rage
    Freeze thy blood less coldly.

    In his masters step he trod
    Where the snow lay dinted
    Heat was in the very sod
    Which the Saint had printed
    Therefore, Christian men, be sure
    Wealth or rank possessing
    Ye, who now will bless the poor
    Shall yourselves find blessing.

  118. Beloved says:

    Forever this reminded me of your journey.

    From Spurgeon Morning and Evening:
    Matthew 11:28 Come to me.

    The call of the Christian faith is the gentle word, “Come.” The Jewish law spoke harshly: “Go, pay attention to your steps as to the path in which you will walk. Break the commandments, and you will perish; keep them, and you will live.” The law was a dispensation of terror that drove men before it as with a scourge; the Gospel draws with cords of love. Jesus is the Good Shepherd going before His sheep, bidding them follow Him, and leading them forward with the sweet word, “Come.” The law repels; the Gospel attracts. The law shows the distance that exists between God and man; the Gospel bridges that awful chasm and brings the sinner across it.

    From the first moment of your spiritual life until you are welcomed into heaven, the language of Christ to you will be, “Come to me.” As a mother extends her hand to her tiny child and woos it to walk by saying, “Come,” even so does Jesus. He will always be ahead of you, bidding you follow Him as the soldier follows his captain. He will always go before you to pave your way and clear your path, and you will hear His life-giving voice calling you to follow Him all through your life; in the solemn hour of death, His sweet words with which He will usher you into the heavenly world will be, “Come, you who are blessed of my Father.”1

    This is not only Christ’s call to you, but if you are a believer, this is your call to Christ-“Come! Come!” You will be longing for His return; you will be saying, “Come quickly; even so come, Lord Jesus.” You will desire nearer and closer fellowship with Him. As His voice to you is “Come,” your response to Him will be, “Come, Lord, and stay with me. Come and occupy the throne of my heart; reign there without a rival, and consecrate me entirely to Your service.”

    1) Matthew 25:34

  119. street says:

    thinking of the body and the blood of Christ.

    God is Spirit and invisible.

    man visible image of God.

    Pentecost- Holy Spirit, God, In Man.

    4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love with which he loved us, 5 even though we were dead in offenses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace

    another panoramic view

    so also grace will reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord. Romans 5:22

    you are dead to sin. to be reckoned so. because God says so in Christ Jesus.

  120. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you so much for that assurement, what an encouraging words! Yes, so it is, it is so!
    We are now Jesus’s! The old covenant is passed, we are under the New Covenant!
    Thanks Street,too! I was thinking, as you often talk about having died to the old man:
    Is it just not a matter of faith, that we can believe that we have already died.
    It is done in Christ. I might not experience anything, the Word of God is telling us we are in Christ, when He went to the Cross, it is His experience, the death happened to Him.
    Just a matter of faith?

  121. poohpity says:

    “I pray that your love will overflow more and more, and that you will keep on growing in knowledge and understanding. For I want you to understand what really matters, so that you may live pure and blameless lives until the day of Christ’s return. May you always be filled with the fruit of your salvation—the righteous character produced in your life by Jesus Christ—for this will bring much glory and praise to God.” Paul

  122. poohpity says:

    Trying to briefly describe a “centered” way of life… and thought.

    Don’t be selfish; don’t try to impress others. Be humble, thinking of others as better than yourselves. 4 Don’t look out only for your own interests, but take an interest in others, too.

    5 You must have the same attitude that Christ Jesus had.

    Though he was God,
    he did not think of equality with God
    as something to cling to.
    Instead, he gave up his divine privileges;
    he took the humble position of a slave
    and was born as a human being.
    When he appeared in human form,
    he humbled himself in obedience to God
    and died a criminal’s death on a cross.

    Therefore, God elevated him to the place of highest honor
    and gave him the name above all other names,
    that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow,
    in heaven and on earth and under the earth,
    and every tongue declare that Jesus Christ is Lord,
    to the glory of God the Father.

  123. Beloved says:

    It seems like when my focus is on myself as center I get lost in muddiness because I will always be focused on mortification. Maybe that’s just me.
    Christ as center is freedom to me, truth light and peace!

    Like barnacles on an old ship or Job scraping off dead tissue the process seems endless. And it is, until we reach paradise.

  124. SFDBWV says:

    Just stopped in to recommend “If It Be Your Will” as song by “First Aid Kit”


  125. Beloved says:

    Within and beyond Left and Right: grace

  126. SFDBWV says:

    My friend Foreverblessed talks often of her old church and how they preached about obeying the Sabbath as well as many other laws of the Torah.

    She no longer follows that burden that her old church laid on her.

    Most every church has their own system of belief and if you want to belong to that particular denomination you have to swear an oath to their doctrine. The burden being obedience to their “law” of being a Christian.

    So what is a “centered” way of life? Is it different of or in concert with a “Christ centered” way of life?

    It would seem the one commandment Jesus put on us is to love our fellow man.

    In the garden when Satan argued with Eve, she added to what God had said by saying she wasn’t even to touch the forbidden fruit.

    Nothing has changed we still add to what God has said.

    It is written that God gave us life that we might live it and live it abundantly.

    What is it that we deny ourselves by adding what God has said?

    Some of the things I have learned is that God has given us our cross to bear, given us the ability and means to bear it and is in control. Our life difficult when we try and control it ourselves.

    “Thy will be done…”

    36 degrees f and cloudy.


  127. poohpity says:

    I do not know about anyone else but if a church were as you said Steve “if you want to belong to that particular denomination you have to swear an oath to their doctrine.” I would run the other way that is if I were able to run, lol. I probably would not even go there to begin with because each church usually on their website shares their statement of faith which anyone can read before they attend. Even ODB ministries posts their statement of faith one can read before they go any further to check into what ODB is about.

    God doesn’t even ask us to swear an oath to Him before we attend one of His many churches. Psalm 34:8 NLT

  128. poohpity says:

    Hebrews 10: And let us consider how to spur one another on to love and good deeds. 25 Let us not neglect meeting together, as some have made a habit, but let us encourage one another, and all the more as you see the Day approaching.

    Many have found or blame many things for not attending a gathering of the Saints in a church but there is something to be said about going to church meeting together to worship our Lord. We lose so much by not joining others in this walk through life with our brothers and sisters the members of the body of Christ. We need the support and encouragement of other broken people in need of a Savior.

  129. Hugger4U says:

    Good morning!

    Putting God first in our lives is, I believe, how we live a ‘centered life’. He will anchor us from there as our sure foundation in Christ Jesus and lead us by His Spirit into all the earth. Spreading his Truth, Light and Love.

    Steve, I have not heard of a church requiring an oath to belong. I agree with Deborah, I would run the other way!
    I’ve never belonged to a church that was a specific denomination. All have been ‘non-denominational’.

    Also, Steve mentioned ‘our cross to bear’. I would like to speak to that.

    The Lord said, ‘Anyone who does not take up their cross and follow me is not worthy of me.’

    Our cross is speaking of the cost to follow Jesus. That is what it means. There is a cost and it is surrendering everything to the Father and doing His will. The cost is giving up all our rights to ourselves. It is losing relationships because they don’t like your choices to follow Jesus. The cost is not giving love to things or people before loving God. I think you get the idea. Anything that you have in your heart that you love more than God you have to give it up, put it on the alter and give it to the Lord as a sacrifice and not pursue it any more but instead pursue God. Even our families, children. They do not belong to us anyway, they were given to us by God to steward for Him. Everything we have was given to us by God. We own nothing in reality and in light of the Word. This is how we can freely give because it was freely given to us.

    Love and Merry Christmas to all!!

  130. street says:

    thinking about the cross.

    to take it up daily

    Paul said I die daily

    if One died all died

    if One suffers all suffer

    if One lives all live.

    Jesus will tell some, ” away from Me I never knew you. ”

    that Grace might Reign in Righteousness unto Eternal Life in Christ Jesus.

    the pure in heart will see God.

    Cleansed by the blood of the Lamb.

    dead to sin alive to God.

    the veil has been removed. we are called to come to Him

    Wherever your treasure is there your heart will be.

  131. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you, this is a beautiful discussion!
    That is so true, true discipleship!
    “There is a cost and it is surrendering everything to the Father and doing His will. The cost is giving up all our rights to ourselves”
    I also believe that God, the Holy Spirit, leads us along that path, of seeing more and more, deeper and deeper, where we had attachments that were more valuable than Jesus. For me it was the Sabbaths, weekly and annual.
    We follow a Person, not a set of doctrines.
    That was wonderful news for me, 25 years.
    But we all agree on that. So its just reassuring.

  132. foreverblessed says:

    By the way, I have made the drawing of the “Christmas crib”. The moment I arrived the lady who had asked for “the essence of Christmas decorations, being the Christ child, arrived too. So she sat down, while I was drawing, and she had a say in how she liked it.
    It was a dear moment. And as Steve often says: those moments that you know that God has arranged it.
    God arranges our lives! As Hugger so well described! So good to sit back, and have faith, Rest, the real Sabbath Rest, is every moment of our life! Not one moment if it was up to God, that we are on our selves. I live in the Sabbath, and that is Jesus, and I am never out of it.

  133. street says:

    26 If anyone wants to serve me, he must follow[a] me, and where I am, my servant will be too.[b] If anyone serves me, the Father will honor him. John 12:26

  134. Beloved says:

    I was just remembering when I was a new Christian being told I should switch to a local Baptist church because I would not grow in Christ without solid scripture teaching. I remember being so happy and loved in-depth teaching and the loving fellowship of like minded people. Jesus was very near and dear to me then. But after a while when my life wasn’t going as they wanted things changed. Little did I know the phone calls wondering if I wasn’t at church 3 times a week besides the many rules started pushing out Jesus as my sabbath rest. Guilt and shame ensued. And has dogged me since then.

    Everything in the OT points to Jesus; Isaiah 58:13-14 I just recognized does speaking of the sabbath from works. Jesus did many “works” on the sabbath to teach this. Eye opening WOW.

  135. Beloved says:

    14 then you shall take delight in the Lord,
    and I will make you ride on the heights of the earth;

  136. Beloved says:

    I did not know the Baptist church began in Holland in the 1600’s! It’s quite new actually.

  137. Beloved says:

    Romans8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.

  138. Beloved says:

    Conviction of sin- yes of course.
    Condemnation- no!

  139. street says:

    thinking of the pic mart post with the topic. self-centered thinking is like the moon a barren world of rock and dust. looking at the earth a world God loved full of life, abundant life, when God is first/centered in Spirit and Truth.

  140. SFDBWV says:

    Whereas I am only 74 years old and certainly haven’t seen it all or know it all I have seen a lot and learned a lot in my walk across this life.

    In an earlier age young people were encouraged to listen to their elders and hopefully learn from them.

    That certainly is not the case in today’s culture.

    Linda this is just one story I have about denominational membership.

    A dear old friend of mine who has since passed was a member of the “Church of God” here in town. She herself was a stellar example of being Christian, whereas her children were very wayward in their behavior.

    She prayed for them constantly and worried about their salvation all the time.

    One of her daughters had been married three times, the first two ending in divorce. My friend was over joyed when that daughter and her third husband decided to join the church.

    The Sunday morning that they were to step forward and take their oaths of joining the church, when the Pastor announced the time had come for them to come forward a retired pastor of the same church stood up and steadfastly argued they could not join the church because they had been divorced. That their doctrine disallowed any divorced person to be a member.

    They could attend church but not be a member of it.

    Embarrassed the couple left the church and as time passed resumed their normal life styles.

    One evening around 11:30 pm the wife of this couple called me and ask if I would come to her house as something was wrong with her husband, he had fallen out of bed and was unconscious.

    When I went down to their house I found that he has shot himself in the head and was dead.

    I have a lot more to say about people who think they speak for God and know it all, but for now I will let this story sink in and go attend to some of my duties.

    Light snow and 30 degrees this morning.


  141. foreverblessed says:

    Good morning ☀️ today is again a great day, we being in the circle of Jesus.
    We are in!
    ” Abide in Me ”
    A preacher explained: it says: abide, meaning: stay where you are! You do not have to crawl back into Jesus. Believe that you are already in.
    I thought that such a good explanation!
    The accusations from the adversary, invading our thoughts, “you missed the goal again, you are not in Christ, otherwise you would not have failed”
    We are in, and when we fail, the blood of Jesus covers us. So the first thought is: confess the failing, and accept the blood of Christ.
    But I was also thinking: If I believe, really believe, that my old man died with Jesus on the Cross, it has been dead long ago! Long long ago, because the Word of God said so.
    I not only died to my old man in Adam, but also to the world. The world is dead to me! But that truth I have to embrace, especially when things in the world become more chaotic. I am dead to the world, in spiritual sense I can stay in calmness of spirit, but I have not to do that, I only should ask humbly and in faith to Rest that comes from God. Thankfully the Holy Spirit is around us, in us, never leaves us. The circle of the Holy Spirit!

    “Follow Me” Jesus says

  142. foreverblessed says:

    Oh Steve, I am sorry for that church!
    Sorry for that man too!
    Even though I had a bad church experience, I do go to a church, but they do not ask for compliance to their doctrines. They have a credo, and I forgot the lines, but it goes something like this:
    In essential matters:unity
    freedom in disputable matters, love above all
    Essential matter being the Cross of Christ.

  143. foreverblessed says:

    Today the lockdown is again in force. Churches are free to come together.
    It is because of the quick rise of the new variant. For three weeks, untill they know more how seriously ill the new variant will make people.
    But our church has decided to stop meeting too. To comply for the health of the population. I pray that peace amongst believers, despite differences in opinion!
    I really don’t like it that believers may come together in churches, (even without checking), and the rest of society may not. It gives jealousy from non-believers.
    Is that the love we as Christians show to the rest?
    “We have rights to …”

    Or can we say: coming together via internet, we can also praise God together, and have services, and at the same time keep distance to avoid spreading the virus.
    Well that is my opinion, never mind.

    Even being alone in my house, I am in the circle of Jesus.
    (But I am not alone in a house, but I want to have more closeness to Jesus, closer and closer, as the Bible says: there is no one like God, Who is my Savior my Friend, my Companion, the One Who knows my heart better than I do. No one but Jesus.

  144. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed I only have a few minutes as I only sat down here to send in my weather report and had a look at BTA.

    Seeing you here though I wanted to say hello.

    That particular denomination has since eased up on some of their doctrinal insistences, which used to include women could never wear pants or cut their hair among others.


  145. bullwinkle11 says:

    Forever, I agree with your comment on a “beautiful discussion” and so glad that you could bring joy to the people through your drawings.

    On the discussion of church membership, my wife and I have always been presented with the churches doctrinal statement prior to joining. We would only agree to join a church that stated that salvation was through faith in Jesus, not by works. Other statements included such things as the inerrancy(sp) of scripture, etc.

    These churches were always small nondenominational churches and always included the work Bible in their title. One church denied membership to a man who believed that scripture contained errors. This same church would not allow me to become an elder because prior to giving my life to Christ I and my wife were divorced. Another church, after moving to a new community, would allow me to become an elder because the pastor felt that all prior sin was forgiven.

    We are now members in Hill Country Bible. Just as the other churches we joined, we agreed with their doctrinal statements when we became members. We would run from any church that required us to agree with something that required anything above salvation through faith in Jesus but have never been faced with such a requirement.

    Forever, sorry to hear that lockdowns have begun in your country again.


  146. poohpity says:

    It would be nice Steve if one time you shared a story of how Jesus changed a person’s life for the better in your area rather than all the horror stories.

  147. Hugger4U says:

    Steve, that is a sad story.

    I did attend one church, when I was newly married and my husband was not attending church with me. It was a Bible Baptist and I counseled with the pastor once where he made the statement that it was wrong of me to have married him because he had been divorced and God wouldn’t honor our marriage. Even as a young Christian not knowing the Word well yet, I knew in my spirit that was not of God. The Lord blessed us with two boys and almost 39 yrs.

    Never attended a denominational church again.

    We all, if we are serious about our relationship with the Lord and pursue Him with our whole selves, He will give us His Spirit and guide us into all truth. So thankful!!

    Love and blessings of peace and unity in the Body of Christ.

  148. poohpity says:

    A centered way of life and thought–

    Once we, too, were foolish and disobedient. We were misled and became slaves to many lusts and pleasures. Our lives were full of evil and envy, and we hated each other. But—

    When God our Savior revealed his kindness and love, he saved us, not because of the righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy. He washed away our sins, giving us a new birth and new life through the Holy Spirit. He generously poured out the Spirit upon us through Jesus Christ our Savior. Because of his grace he made us right in his sight and gave us confidence that we will inherit eternal life.

    This is a trustworthy saying, and I want you to insist on these teachings so that all who trust in God will devote themselves to doing good. These teachings are good and beneficial for everyone.

  149. poohpity says:

    Phil 4:8 NLT

  150. SFDBWV says:

    This is the week leading up to “Christmas”. There will be plenty of scenes of the baby Jesus in the manger along with all the music and excitement of the holiday.

    Yet the fact is that the little baby lying there was born to die.

    Jesus’ purpose in becoming a man, his purpose of being born was the “Cross”.

    Your and my purpose is not the same as Jesus. Only Jesus could be the eternal sacrifice for all of mankind.

    Your cross is your purpose.

    If you look at it this way Jesus could have said, “Pick up your purpose and follow me.”

    What is it any of you do? Are any of you preachers, missionaries, monks, nuns, priests? I’ll bet not.

    God has placed you where you are and will use you in whatever capacity you are in to exact His will.

    You haven’t chosen anything except to follow Him, He will provide the rest. In truth your choice was made for you from before the foundation of the world.

    People who think they speak for God are only speaking for themselves and far too often only a stumbling block in the pathway of life for others.

    The beginning of wisdom is the fear of God.

    Do whatever it is you do with all your heart, always do the best you can, love others and you will find that you are following Christ.


  151. Beloved says:

    Good LORDS day friends!
    Back for a minute on the topic of Sabbath I just read in my book of McCheyne sermons about John being exiled to Patmos in Revelation1:9-18. John states he was “in the Spirit”on the LORDS Day. McCheyne calls it the Christian sabbath and goes on to say if we are unable to be in the house of God that if we seek to be in the Spirit and honor the Sabbath God will make up for the want of ordinances.

    I find true Christian freedom in his preaching and thank God after all these years He allowed even sent various troubles along the way. In His time He has revealed more of Himself to me Who is loving and kind and does not hand out rule books. I think many many preachers/elders are blind even in their sincere zeal to serve Christ well. Some out of fear of judgement.

    On divorce, when my husband finally sought divorce because I was a Christian I was told I could never remarry which felt like it was all my fault even though Jesus said to “let the unbeliever go if they want because how do you know they will become saved?”. I knew this but could not contradict authority at that time as I had been trained growing up. (We studied Gothard teachings also)

    There seem to be so many teachings within the circle of Gods loving kindness, thinking wheat and tares? He’s so gracious always with new mercies every day! Oh what times we live in! That we can even look upon our enemies and PRAY God will open their eyes as well as mine! It’s exciting to me to see God move though He moves very slowly in my estimation and I know I’m not alone in thinking this way.

    Blessed celebration of Gods love in His condescension to us as a frail babe! Born to die horribly but obediently for you, and for me. Amen

  152. Beloved says:

    Jesus as center

    Ephesians 2:4But God, being rich in mercy, because of the great love with which he loved us, 5even when we were dead in our trespasses, made us alive together with Christ—by grace you have been saved— 6and raised us up with him and seated us with him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus, 7so that in the coming ages he might show the immeasurable riches of his grace in kindness toward us in Christ Jesus.

    From Gentle and Lowly by Dane Ortlund
    The Greek word for kindness means a desire to do whatever is possible to prevent discomfort in another. It’s the same word used in Matthew 11:30 where Jesus says “my yoke is easy”. His yoke is kind. “The word here implies all sweetness, and all candidness, all friendliness and all heartiness, and all goodness, with His whole heart.” (Goodwin)

    Jesus our savior kind and good, from a Christmas song. It occurs to me if I want to be like Jesus we have a good blueprint in scripture and in our heart.

  153. street says:

    15 Now I want to make clear for you,[a] brothers and sisters,[b] the gospel that I preached to you, that you received and on which you stand, 2 and by which you are being saved, if you hold firmly to the message I preached to you—unless you believed in vain. 3 For I passed on to you as of first importance[c] what I also received—that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures, 4 and that he was buried, and that he was raised[d] on the third day according to the scriptures, 5 and that he appeared to Cephas,[e] then to the twelve. 6 Then he appeared to more than 500 of the brothers and sisters[f] at one time, most of whom are still alive,[g] though some have fallen asleep.[h] 7 Then he appeared to James, then to all the apostles. 8 Last of all, as though to one born at the wrong time,[i] he appeared to me also. 9 For I am the least of the apostles, unworthy to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God. 10 But by the grace of God I am what I am, and his grace to me has not been in vain. In fact, I worked harder than all of them—yet not I, but the grace of God with me. 11 Whether then it was I or they, this is the way we preach and this is the way you believed.

  154. Beloved says:

    Yes and Amen such a beautiful gospel we have received. Thank you, LORD Jesus!

  155. foreverblessed says:

    Such a beautiful Gospel!
    “But what does is say? “The word is near you, it is in your mouth and in your heart”, that is, the word of faith that we are proclaiming: that is you confess with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord”, and believe in your heart that God raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.
    Rom 10:8-9
    Talking about a circle!
    I also believe that when we are His, His Spirit is with us, and we will reach out to others, because that is the essence of the Spirit. The more we perceive who we are IN Christ, the more effective the Spirit flows through us.

  156. foreverblessed says:

    Immanuel, God with us!
    Do not be afraid 😉
    That is the topic of ODB today, not afraid, because Jesus is with us.
    But I have a struggle with fear, and with worries too.
    It is good to rehearse these scriptures often, fill my mind with these words!
    And ask for more faith, Jesus IS with us, so why should I dear?

  157. foreverblessed says:

    When I was younger, I would ask myself, Do I do enough? Do I do what God wants me to do? And that doing is never enough. Now I ask myself: do I believe that Jesus is Lord? The more doubt is send away, and faith cones in, it is all a gift of God, any works are a promise, because the sap of the vine flows through the branches, and we are the branches.
    I speak to the choir, to encourage!

  158. poohpity says:

    Hark! the herald angels sing,
    “Glory to the new-born King;
    Peace on earth, and mercy mild;
    God and sinners reconciled.”
    Joyful, all ye nations, rise,
    Join the triumph of the skies;
    With angelic hosts proclaim,
    “Christ is born in Bethlehem.”

    Christ, by highest heav’n adored,
    Christ, the everlasting Lord:
    Late in time behold Him come,
    Offspring of a virgin’s womb.
    Veiled in flesh the Godhead see,
    Hail th’ incarnate Deity!
    Pleased as man with man to dwell,
    Jesus our Immanuel.

    Hail the heav’n-born Prince of Peace!
    Hail the Sun of righteousness!
    Light and life to all He brings,
    Ris’n with healing in His wings:
    Mild He lays His glory by,
    Born that man no more may die;
    Born to raise the sons of earth;
    Born to give them second birth.

    Come, Desire of nations, come!
    Fix in us Thy humble home:
    Rise, the woman’s conqu’ring seed,
    Bruise in us the serpent’s head;
    Adam’s likeness now efface,
    Stamp Thine image in its place:
    Final Adam from above,
    Reinstate us in Thy love.

  159. poohpity says:

    Steve, you stated; “Yet the fact is that the little baby lying there was born to die.

    Jesus’ purpose in becoming a man, his purpose of being born was the “Cross”.

    Isn’t that an example of what you said later, “People who think they speak for God are only speaking for themselves and far too often only a stumbling block in the pathway of life for others.”

    Because there was much much more to the purpose that Jesus came because it did not end with the cross there is MORE. He is ALIVE!

  160. foreverblessed says:

    What a good proclamation of the Gospel in that song!
    The 4th verse is not in my song.
    Come, Desire of nations, come!
    Fix in us Thy humble home:
    Rise, the woman’s conqu’ring seed,
    Bruise in us the serpent’s head;
    Adam’s likeness now efface,
    Stamp Thine image in its place:
    Final Adam from above,
    Reinstate us in Thy love

    Jesus the Last Adam, just to reinstate everything you already know, it is just to remind myself:
    We are on Adam, and because of the Fall, we are lost, whether we are morally good or bad, it is the race of Adam that cannot inherit the kingdom of God, John 3:3
    The solution is this one: all that is in Adam has to die. That’s why Jesus had to come in fkesht, a body, flesh of our flesh blood of our blood, to gather us in His Body on the Cross, and take us into the grave, the old Adam is dead,
    In order that we could raise with Him, Rom 6:4
    This has already happened, two thousand years ago! So if we ask God: erase the Adam in us, God will answer: You are already erased, just believe it, believe in Jesus and the Cross!
    And be glad that you are risen to a spiritual Life, Life in the power of His Resurrection, Eph 1:19-20

    Not that you don’t know it, but this message of the body and blood of Christ, that we remember in the Lord’s Supper, it has a deeper meaning for me now.
    (Thanks Mart for bringing that topic, of body&blood of Jesus.)

  161. foreverblessed says:

    We were in Adam
    Now we are in Christ,
    Our sins are laid on Jesus, and He carried them on the Cross, our nature in Adam has died with Him,
    His Resurrection Life is given to us, a new person!
    The righteousness of Jesus is imputed in us, that is an amazing thing, hard to comprehend!

  162. Beloved says:

    Forever I agree. It’s hard to understand through my brokenness. But by faith we believe and therefore have received what we cannot see or comprehend. Amazing is the grace and mercy of God.

  163. Beloved says:

    I Peter 18For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life you inherited from your forefathers,

    19but with the precious blood of Christ, a lamb without blemish or spot. 20He was known before the foundation of the world, but was revealed in the last times for your sake.

    21Through Him you believe in God, who raised Him from the dead and glorified Him; and so your faith and hope are in God.

    The Enduring Word
    (Isaiah 40:6–8)
    22Since you have purified your souls by obedience to the truth so that you have a genuine love for your brothers, love one another deeply, from a pure heart.

    23For you have been born again, not of perishable seed, but of imperishable, through the living and enduring word of God.

  164. Beloved says:

    Steve I think we all know that you know that Jesus is still alive. Your testimony here is shaped and rooted in Him and stands true over time. As is everyone else’s here.

  165. SFDBWV says:

    Today’s schedule has been all messed up and that why I am here at the computer at this time.

    Joyce I would have no idea why you would make such a comment to me. I have never said anything in all the decades I have been commenting here that would ever have indicated otherwise.

    That Jesus isn’t alive?

    Is not God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit all the same being?

    I speak here about life, about living life as a Believer.

    I am sure some don’t get it, but I quote Scripture all the time I just don’t give chapter and verse. If the reader doesn’t recognize it, it is because they are not familiar with the Word as written on the heart not necessarily printed on a page.

    It was 14 degrees this morning. I do love those cold mornings.


  166. Beloved says:

    (Sorry Steve I was referring to poohs post which I forgot you don’t read. I was just affirming you.)
    Afternoon musings-

    As I get older I love being reminded of the tenets of the faith! I never get tired of scripture. It’s always useful as it says in Timothy.

    I was just thinking that even if scripture is used in a not so useful way if I look to the Author it’s still precious to me.

  167. Beloved says:

    I had a Covid test today even though I’m feeling much better. When I asked the doc about having the 3rd booster she said it wasn’t necessary and really causes tiredness. My daughter had it (3rd) thinking they were going out of the country for vacation and it kept her from going to work for a day. Interesting times we live in. Vacation was canceled because her husband got very sick with diverticulitis. I’m going to their house Friday for dinner and gifts after the Christmas program. So very thankful!

  168. SFDBWV says:

    Joyce I guessed as much that Deborah Johnson had said something derogatory towards me. Thank you for your defense.

    You are right in that I don’t read anything she writes. I don’t have to be snake bit more than once to learn to avoid the snake.

    I would hope that everyone here recognizes she has a problem with regards to me and that it isn’t going away. It is her problem, and I am sorry she drags others into her darkness. As for me I just avoid her.

    Moving along.

    It was such a beautiful full moon last evening. It is one of those things I always share with Glenna, the full moon in all its splendor.

    I am blessed to have a wife that I can share such things with. Someone who can appreciate the same things I do and share all the big and little things that come and go daily in our lives.

    Glenna came to be my wife after I prayed for God’s choice in sending me my “proper helper” and He did a perfect job.


  169. poohpity says:

    I did not say anything derogatory about Steve I just quoted what He said. I do not call him names or put him down in anyway the way he does me. I thought we are to discuss what is said respectfully and kindly but as usual I must be wrong. Joyce tell me why it is you like to pick at open wounds to cause them to bleed?

  170. Beloved says:

    Why, pooh, do you continue to wound? That’s a rhetorical question because you are who you are. Nevertheless, I love you with pity and compassion. Have a blessed Christmas

  171. bratimus says:

    This Time of year as the gift that Jesus was to Earth.

    It isn’t Just the act of the cross, the ultimate gift of forgiveness of human sin.

    Also the gift of Jesus message of the Kingdom of God as He headed to the cross.

    Jesus is the gift that keeps on giving.

    In Christ Jesus name


  172. Beloved says:

    My neighbor Laska whom I shared the gospel with a few weeks ago told me he is going home for the holidays to see if he can find “the Christ” in Christmas. We exchanged blessings and I’m grateful God is opening his eyes if not his curiosity. He draws/beckons it ours to believe/receive the marvelous Gift to ourselves. Keep praying for this young man.

  173. street says:

    poo do you remember how the Pharisees asked questions in order to trap or bring charges against or even to discredit Jesus?

    you do not need to call names or say anything derogatory to do the opposite of edify exalt and comfort.

    those who walk in the light will not walk in darkness.

    Jesus is the Light of the World and a life giving Spirit.

    i do remember He also brings a sword. double edge.

  174. foreverblessed says:

    “For I resolved to know nothing while I was with you except Jesus Christ and him crucified”
    Paul says that in 1 Cor 2:2

  175. street says:


  176. Beloved says:

    14 The natural person does not accept the things of the Spirit of God, for they are folly to him, and he is not able to understand them because they are spiritually discerned. 15 The spiritual person judges all things, but is himself to be judged by no one. 16 “For who has understood the mind of the Lord so as to instruct him?” But we have the mind of Christ.

  177. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Lord, be with Laska, he is looking for Christ in Christmas! He is open for You, thank You, I bless the work You do in his heart.
    Beloved, how nice that you can be with your daughter during Christmas! I pray God heals your son-in-law.
    And please pray for me, for ODB, for learningmore, who I have a conversation with. It is the Holy Spirit that teaches, and instructs, and cuts through the heart.
    “So neither he who plants nor he who waters is anything, but only God, who makes things grow.” 1 Cor 3:7
    Everybody has their own path, the path of the lost son, and the path of the older son, but they all come to Christ.

  178. foreverblessed says:

    “but we preach Christ crucified: a stumbling block…”
    1 Cor 1:23

  179. poohpity says:

    street, I thought I was asking questions aimed at the comments on here which last time I looked none of you are Jesus so how does the questions that the Pharisees asked Jesus fit with asking questions on this blog? love poo

  180. poohpity says:

    forever, those verses in 1 Cor one fails to see the reason that Paul said them if you do not read them in the context. There were arguments about following different people and ways of salvation which seem to be why Paul said them.

    There were more purposes in the incarnation of God than to die at least that is what Jesus taught us.

  181. Beloved says:

    Reading in context is like reading a textbook. But they are only spiritually discerned by the Spirit.

  182. Beloved says:

    I just found out I have Covid after two boosters but it’s been 2 weeks so don’t have to quarantine, which I did anyway. Thankful it wasn’t too bad for me but I’m pretty healthy for an old woman lol. Still no taste or smell which is great when I clean the litter box😹

  183. poohpity says:

    Gee Joyce I must be strange because I do not take anything I read out of context. I can not imagine reading “Pride and Prejudice” like reading the second sentence in the fourth paragraph in the first chapter then reading the eighth sentence in the fourth chapter then reading the 3rd – eighth sentences in the last chapter and understand what the book is about to write a book report.

    Or what person gets a letter then reads only part of the 4th sentence not even the whole sentence then think they know what the letter is about?

    That was dumb for me to ask you since you said you have graduated from bible college so I know that you actually know better but it seems just wanted again to stir up trouble and as usual I took the bait thinking you really wanted to have an adult conversation about the matter of context, my bad.

  184. Beloved says:

    Relax Pooh it’s ok.

  185. Beloved says:

    The Bible is a textbook inspired by the spirit of God. Not at all like a novel. I think once said here long ago that when I graduated I had more questions than when I started. Even PHD’s are ever learning and know that the more you think you know the more there is to learn. Anyone can share the gospel it’s the Spirit that quickens the Word to a persons heart. I’m sorry you feel baited it was not my intention.

  186. Beloved says:

    Trying to describe a centered way of life…

    It’s hard but it does not change when there are troubles. In fact all our troubles are under His watch-care. In Christ we are ever learning to live as He lived. Not Home yet….

  187. Beloved says:

    Their eyes were opened Luke24

  188. Beloved says:

    And he opened their minds…

  189. Beloved says:

    Which leads me to think it’s Jesus who opens our eyes and mind to the meaning of scripture. Blind no more 😊

  190. foreverblessed says:

    He opened their eyes!
    Yes, that is it!
    When I started to do a search on the Body&Blood of Jesus Christ, the Spirit opened my eyes, even more, on the meaning of the Cross. I was impressed by the Blood of Jesus, how much and how deep it has cleansed me,(us). And how day by day the Blood covers us, again and again.
    But now: the Body of Christ. Today on Utmost it talks about this: that when Jesus died on the Cross, we died with Him. Our old man, that was in Adam died. It is a fact that the Word of God tells us, that it is so! The totality of that death is great: our old man is dead, all that was in Adam died, we were taken up in the body of Christ on the Cross and into the grave, laid there three days, (to make sure it was really dead). It is something that happened to Jesus, I don’t experience it, I have to accept it in faith,
    And then….
    Utmost explains:
    “When you act in confident faith in what our Lord did on the cross, a supernatural identification with His death takes place immediately. And you will come to know through a higher knowledge that your old life was “crucified with Him” (Romans 6:6)”

    Something miraculous happens, as an effect of us believing in the Cross.

    “The proof that your old life is dead, having been “crucified with Christ” (Galatians 2:20), is the amazing ease with which the life of God in you now enables you to obey the voice of Jesus Christ.”

    So, if my old man is still coming up, (first the blood is for my forgiveness again and again) but secondly: think about that I, my old man, was put in Christ on the Cross, and am dead. And I add: thank God for the Cross, praise Him, glorify Him, the Lamb that was slain.

    So Paul says in Gal 6:14 “God forbid that I should boast except in the cross of our Lord Jesus Christ…

  191. foreverblessed says:

    Everything that Jesus does for us, flows out of the Cross
    The Cross is the pivotal point.

    Jesus Himself says:
    “Now My heart is troubled, and what shall I say? Father, save Me from this hour?
    No, it was for this very reason I came to this hour.”
    John 12:27

  192. foreverblessed says:

    And then comes this amazing word:
    “Father, glorify Your Name!”
    John 12:28

    God is glorified in the hour Jesus came for: the Cross.
    Talking about Glory.

  193. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks be to God, for keeping you safe, Beloved! I am thankful to God, for soaring you, may He also help your son in law.

  194. foreverblessed says:

    Soaring= saving
    But what a coincidence, the autocorrect made it into soaring:
    Thinking about the heavenly realms

    Praise be to the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ, who has blessed us in the heavenly realms with every spiritual blessing in Christ.
    Eph 1:3

  195. bubbles says:

    People generally won’t change. We are all resistant and perhaps fearful of change. I have learned too late that life is fragile, short, and precious. I wasted time arguing about things; knowing I was right… only causing hurt feelings and lost time that could have been used loving. The moving finger writes, and having writ, moves on. . . I wish I could have a re do and not be preoccupied with being right. I never convinced them they were not right, and it took time away that cannot be given back. For the rest of my days I will know I lost time over being right and that was not worth what was lost forever here now.

  196. poohpity says:

    Joyce, when you stated, “Which leads me to think it’s Jesus who opens our eyes and mind to the meaning of scripture. Blind no more 😊” Exactly but one has to read scripture first to have their eyes and mind opened rather than depending alone on the commentary of others, God will do the same thing for you as He did for them, it seems it is just easier and less personal to rely on other people than on the Holy Spirit to teach.

  197. poohpity says:

    bubbles, Maybe telling people what is right might be what is right for you but not for them.

  198. poohpity says:

    It seems the more we allow or submit to the leading of the Holy Spirit, it is God who transforms or changes the way we think and that in turn effects how we act. Sadly many people do not want to give their selves to God and let go of control as Jesus said, “Not my will but yours be done.”. I know how hard it is to do that but thank God He never gives up on me or any of His other children. (Phil 1:6 NLT)

  199. poohpity says:

    The birth of Jesus is the dawning of Grace into the physical realm. Jesus is the greatest gift to mankind.

  200. poohpity says:

    Immanuel– God with us. Isaiah 7:14; Matt 1:23

  201. poohpity says:

    Obviously it is God through Jesus who went “Within and Beyond Left and Right”!

  202. Beloved says:

    Yes our old man is dead but we need reminders. Someone I read said if you are dead (to sin) then act like it! Mortification.

    Blessed Christ-mas all, the reason for the season.

  203. street says:

    thinking we were never asked to be right, just Holy.

    be of good cheer Jesus has overcome sin and death and the world.

    does anyone remember be Sanctified in the Word/Truth/Christ

    oswald mention in todays devotion that we are reminded what it’s like be on our own sometimes. the thing that truly amazes me is how quick we can drift/turn to other things. thron in the flesh? yet not left without A Helper.

  204. street says:

    Exactly but one has to read scripture first to have their eyes and mind opened rather than depending alone on the commentary of others, God will do the same thing for you as He did for them, it seems it is just easier and less personal to rely on other people than on the Holy Spirit to teach.

    less personal…..thinking of Jesus with the 12. regeneration…..is it a work of man or is it a work of God? how did you lose a heart of stone and receive a heart of flesh? opening of eyes ears and heart, a work of God not man. God, faith in God, is the gift of God. new creation. purchased by the blood of the Lamb. and they overcame by the blood of the Lamb. the life is in the blood. Jesus, life giving Spirit, second Adam, the only begoten of God. Adopted…. after Jesus bound the strong man and then looted his house. putting an end to sin and death at the cross new life in Him.

    thinking first fruits ….we have not physically died yet. Great Hope in Christ Jesus!

    Merry Christmas!

  205. bubbles says:

    Speaking of Scripture and things taught therein, such as the communion elements have a purpose and a reminder for us, and eating fast food is not the same thing as communion. The diety of Christ. . . these are things taught in Scripture and not opinions. And the one (not anyone here in this forum) will not receive the truth. . .

  206. street says:

    Exactly but one has to read scripture first to have their eyes and mind opened rather than depending alone on the commentary of others,

    faith comes by hearing, and hearing comes by the Word of God.

    if the above statement is true then physically blind, the illiterate and people without access to a Bible will perish.

    grace is absolute and it is endless. no law against grace or mercy.

    37 But though he had done so many miracles before them, yet they believed not on him:

    38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?

    39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,

    40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

    41 These things said Esaias, when he saw his glory, and spake of him.

    thinking of Mary’s magnificent

    “My soul exalts[es] the Lord,[et]
    47 and my spirit has begun to rejoice[eu] in God my Savior,
    48 because he has looked upon the humble state of his servant.[ev]
    For[ew] from now on[ex] all generations will call me blessed,[ey]
    49 because he who is mighty[ez] has done great things for me, and holy is his name;
    50 from[fa] generation to generation he is merciful[fb] to those who fear[fc] him.
    51 He has demonstrated power[fd] with his arm; he has scattered those whose pride wells up from the sheer arrogance[fe] of their hearts.
    52 He has brought down the mighty[ff] from their thrones, and has lifted up those of lowly position;[fg]
    53 he has filled the hungry with good things,[fh] and has sent the rich away empty.[fi]
    54 He has helped his servant Israel, remembering[fj] his mercy,[fk]
    55 as he promised[fl] to our ancestors,[fm] to Abraham and to his descendants[fn] forever.”

    the gift of tears.

  207. Beloved says:

    O holy night, the stars are brightly shining,
    It is the night of the dear Saviour’s birth;
    Long lay the world in sin and error pining,
    ‘Till he appeared and the soul felt its worth.
    A thrill of hope the weary world rejoices,
    For yonder breaks a new and glorious morn;

    Fall on your knees, Oh hear the angel voices!
    O night divine! O night when Christ was born.
    O night, O holy night, O night divine.

    Led by the light of Faith serenely beaming;
    With glowing hearts by his cradle we stand:
    So, led by light of a star sweetly gleaming,
    Here come the wise men from Orient land,
    The King of Kings lay thus in lowly manger,
    In all our trials born to be our friend;

    He knows our need, To our weakness no stranger!
    Behold your King! Before Him lowly bend!
    Behold your King! your King! before him bend!

    Truly He taught us to love one another;
    His law is Love and His gospel is Peace;
    Chains shall he break, for the slave is our brother,
    And in his name all oppression shall cease,
    Sweet hymns of joy in grateful Chorus raise we;
    Let all within us praise his Holy name!

    Christ is the Lord, then ever! ever praise we!
    His pow’r and glory, evermore proclaim!
    His pow’r and glory, evermore proclaim!

  208. poohpity says:

    street, your comments are the best example of someone even taking a comment out of context to prove your own point. Especially in your 11:57 am and 12:09 pm comments neglecting the fact that Joyce mentioned the Lord opening eyes and minds as people “read scripture” not about someone sharing the Good News but that is how you twisted it being infamous in doing that with scripture as well.

  209. poohpity says:

    street, are you aware of the fact that there are Braille and audio bibles? Before people were so consumed with things in the world they used to sit as families and read the bible together as some families still do. When God puts the desire in someone’s heart to read His word they find ways to do so even when they might be killed for having a bible or just one page of it. When it came to the letters of the New Testament Paul, Peter, James, John and Jude wrote those letters which were passed around to all the new churches and they were read to those who God put the desire within and beyond left and right to read them.

    I know many on here do not emphasize the importance of reading scripture but that is something the Lord put on my heart the importance in reading them because much false teaching is prevalent in today’s world and it is hard to recognize unless one is grounded in His Word.

    Do you think that people who can recognize counterfeit money do so by studying the counterfeit or by studying the real thing?

  210. bubbles says:

    Understanding the “circle” of left, right, and center. . . I learned too late. Jesus knows the heart of and the ones who don’t understand and are sincere, while believing in Jesus to save them. I can’t go back and undo the wrong. And I should have been kind and not contentious. I should have valued being kind over being right, even if the one questioned the inerrancy of Scripture; they weren’t grounded in the faith and did the best they could with what they had. I have asked Jesus to forgive me, but I will carry this heartache to my grave. If this happens again, I will do better. People are passionate about what is precious to them and they get upset because they care deeply about what they believe.

  211. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Bubbles, thank you for sharing, I pray that you may receive peace, if God has forgiven you, that you may forgive yourself, I was thinking about a Bible verse that is appropriate:
    Paul telling not to look back!

    And if we look back, let it be to remember where God has helped us.

  212. foreverblessed says:

    On ODB is the sing too: O Holy Night.
    The first time I heard it again in Church, together with my mother, she came over to our Church to celebrate Christmas we both had to cry!
    (We didn’t keep Christmas, as we kept the Holy Days out of the Bible)
    The words are so good, uplifting, new hope, new life! The last couple of years she does not want to come anymore, too old she finds herself.

  213. foreverblessed says:

    I have been looking at 1 Cor 1 and 2 again, Paul is telling that everyone has his share in the work for the Lord, that all together are one. And that his part is to share the Gospel, not even to baptise. Others baptise ( except for a few he did himself).
    And he explains what the Gospel is.
    The Cross, and that it is an offense to many, but to us it is the power of God!

    So I do not understand why the context makes this different.
    The Cross in our daily walk: the Cross we lay our burdens at the Cross, and ask for the blessings from Christ.
    It is so easy, lol, only we have to wait, wait for the Lord. And mostly I act too soon.
    But to us the Cross is the power of God!

  214. SFDBWV says:

    Good morning Foreverblessed, I hope this day Christmas Eve finds you and your family well and at peace.

    My thoughts this morning turn to those fantastic people Mary and Joseph, of their obedience to God, their struggles and success in being used of God.

    Of the three “wise” men who believed the Words written long before and followed the star to honor the new born King.

    Of the gifts they brought that has so many meanings and provided the means for their escape from Herod.

    God provides we just have to believe, and trust and be patient.


  215. poohpity says:

    Mary, did you know that your baby boy
    Would one day walk on water?
    Mary, did you know that your baby boy
    Would save our sons and daughters?
    Did you know that your baby boy
    Has come to make you new;
    This Child that you delivered
    Will soon deliver you?

    Mary, did you know that your baby boy
    Will give sight to a blind man?
    Mary, did you know that your baby boy
    Would calm a storm with His hand?
    Did you know that your baby boy
    Has walked where angels trod,
    And when you kiss your little baby
    You’ve kissed the face of God?
    Mary, did you know?

    The blind will see, the deaf will hear,
    The dead will live again,
    The lame will leap, the dumb will speak
    The praises of the Lamb!

    Mary, did you know that your baby boy
    Is Lord all creation?
    Mary, did you know that your baby boy
    Will one day rule the nations?
    Did you know that your baby boy
    Was Heaven’s perfect Lamb,
    And the sleeping Child you’re holding
    Is the great, the Great I AM?
    Oh, Mary, Mary, did you know?

  216. poohpity says:

    1 Tim 2:8 NLT

  217. poohpity says:

    2 Tim 2:8 NLT

  218. foreverblessed says:

    Dear Pooh, may the Prince of Peace enwrap you, hold you dear to His heart, may He whisper in your ears, that He came to earth, for you, to save you out of the Kingdom of darkness, and put you in His Kingdom, may He bless you greatly, and soothe your heart.
    And I thank God that He will do this.
    Our Prince of Peace, King of kings, King of our hearts, may He do this to all of our hearts. And may we kneel together to worship Him!

  219. Beloved says:

    “The love of Christ towards His people is a deep well which has no bottom.”
    J C Ryle

  220. Beloved says:

    Blessed Christmas to all who are in Christ Jesus! May your celebrating be merry and bright!

  221. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you, that deep well which has no bottom, that is what Christ brings us.
    He left heaven to come to us, what a great step He made, to get us with Him in the heavenly realm.
    O come let us adore Him

    Singing loud with the Christmas songs on the Web.
    It is better than not singing.
    May you have a blessed evening, especially when no other human us around you, may Jesus be the Immanuel all the more!

  222. bratimus says:

    May everyone have a Blessed Christmas!

    In Christ Jesus name


  223. SFDBWV says:

    Merry Christmas morning to all.


  224. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you all!
    A merry Christmas also to Mart! I pray that he has family around him.
    I pray that Jesus will be a very very special Immanuel to him.

  225. SFDBWV says:

    Foreverblessed yesterday Pat sent me a beautiful little video about the children of Holten who place candles on the graves of Canadian soldiers buried there as a result of WWII, every Christmas Eve.

    I don’t know if you know where that is or of the tradition. But it is a moving ritual to honor those who gave it all for the freedom of others.

    No snow for Christmas this year as we are at 50 degrees f with drizzle.


  226. poohpity says:

    forever, about your comment on the 24th @ 10:25 am that prayer rang true in 1962 when I first accepted the grace and forgiveness of Jesus and He opened my ears and eyes then and has been faithful in doing so ever since. I turned away from Him for a time but He never turned away from or gave up on His pursuit to bring me close. Thank you for the prayer it has been answered. I lift your name and the name of others to the Lord often for His will to be done in your lives and to bring you all close to Him as well.

    It is a true blessing to realize that before there was even ‘time’ that the Lord has pursued us enough to lay aside His deity and glory to be born in the flesh. He humbly took on the role of a servant when He was a King, allowed Himself the death of a criminal rather than calling His legend of angels to protect and fight for Him as God, then above all else showed us grace when we deserved wrath. Immanuel!

    JESUS IS THE GIFT! We remember and embrace this blessed morning and may He find room in our hearts to welcome Him. Merry Merry Christmas one and all!

  227. bullwinkle11 says:

    Merry Christmas one and all!

    Thinking of God’s sacrifice on our behalf that allows us peace.

    We are so blessed!

    55 degrees here in Texas, not looking for a White Christmas.

  228. Hugger4U says:

    Merry Christmas!

    No snow here on the Coast of Oregon. 38 degrees!

    Love in Christ Jesus,

  229. SFDBWV says:

    Linda, I had two uncles that lived in Eureka California not too far from Oregon. I loved seeing the giant Redwoods that grew there when I visited them many, many years ago.

    The Pacific northwest coast is indeed a beautiful place.

    No one here is upset over not having snow, especially me.


  230. Beloved says:

    Beautiful white Christmas with snowing and no wind for a change. Thinking of a Baby lying in straw. Simple yet profound.
    Rejoice! Rejoice! Emanuel has come to thee oh Israel.

    Did you know that we who have been grafted in to the Vine are Jewish?

  231. Hugger4U says:


    I try to get down that way every few years to look at those giants! We are so blessed, all of us, in being able to appreciate God’s creation. From the deserts to the mountains, such beauty and wonders!

    There was snow a little more inland and higher up in the foothills of the coast range. I was visiting my step son and family for a few hours yesterday, but headed home before it started snowing!

    Happy Birthday Jesus! My ONE and ONLY True Love! Thank you for coming to save us!

    Have a blessed day everyone.

    In His Love,

  232. Mart DeHaan says:

    So much to be learned from one another— especially on a Day when we may be more inclined than others to share the wonder. Merry Christmas, dear friends :-)…

  233. SFDBWV says:

    Have any of you ever wondered why it is you believe the Christmas story?

    I have read it said that historically there is more evidence of the existence of Jesus than of many historical figures we have come to believe existed.

    Have we been indoctrinated into believing or is belief something deeper in our being?

    As believers we are told to go everywhere and tell the story of salvation, the story of the “gospel”.

    Something certainly happened some two thousand years ago that started people telling of the good news and in telling of the good news there is a back story that leads up to it.

    It is the back story that brings the celebration we know of as Christmas.

    In the back story to that we learn of why there was a need for a birth and who He is.

    And why we need Him.

    Is belief an intellectual acceptance of history, or is belief a connection between our inner most being and hearing that call to believe?

    Matthew, Glenna and I had a nice day yesterday, a rare gift and an answer to prayer.

    I hope all of you had a peaceful day as well.


  234. Regina says:

    Merry belated Christmas, All!🙂🎄🎁
    I thought about you all periodically this entire week, but I didn’t make it to the blog room to sit down for a moment until right now. My brother and I are caregiver to our mom this weekend. Our younger sister has a family—a husband and 3 children (two teenage daughters and she adopted our nephew—our eldest brother’s son). My mom only has 3 children left. I’m still in the middle. My oldest brother passed away this past Summer, and my youngest brother transitioned to the other side in 2015. Now, I have an older brother and a younger sister on this side of glory. I wasn’t super distracted yesterday, just forgetful. I pray that Christmas for you all was truly memorable and all that you all wanted it to be, and I’m sorry that I forgot to stop by and share it with you. So, my goal is to visit with you all more next week. And, again, I wish you all very happy holidays!🌟✨

    We’ve been having very unusual weather in Texas. I’m not complaining, just explaining that it was a balmy 80 + degrees yesterday—Christmas 2021! And right now, it’s 61 degrees under a hazy sky.

    LOVE to all,❤️

  235. Hugger4U says:


    The gift of faith from God is why we believe.

    36 degrees today.

    Going to church. Have a wonderful Lord’s Day after Christmas Day!

    Love in Christ, Emmanuel, Messiah, Prince of Peace!

  236. Beloved says:

    Dear Regina I’ve thought of you and glad to hear from you. Loss of siblings is so hard and I’m sorry for you when the joy of Christmas comes with sadness. So thankful for His faithfulness.

  237. SFDBWV says:

    Yes, Linda I agree, faith is a gift from God. Not an intellectual exercise.

    45 degrees after a rain yesterday evening and cloudy skies today. More rain on the way.

    I get a little video every morning from ODB and Christmas Eve’s was a good story that came from “Paul Harvey”. It was about a very honest fellow who was also very intelligent who just didn’t understand the concept of why “Christmas”.

    Until he tried to help some cold hungry birds from the weather and learned that no matter how much he offered them help they ignored his attempts. It wasn’t until he thought that if he were only a bird himself, he could tell them where to go to get out of the cold wind and find food.

    Then he understood…

    God made a way when the time was right to open his eyes and heart.


  238. street says:

    Oswald Chambers has some thoughts about a centered life v thinking how centered falls short of what is required.

  239. Beloved says:


  240. poohpity says:

    Steve, I never heard Paul Harvey mention anything about the man being intelligent and who was the also being intelligent you were speaking of? He did say that the man was kind, generous to his family and so honest he did not want to go to church because he could not understand the incarnation spoke of in Christmas so he would then be a hypocrite but nothing about intelligence. He could not understand the incarnation. Just love that story. There is a lot to be said about honesty and being real about what we do or do not believe.

  241. street says:

    yes steve i heard the story. He, God, Became One of us and died to make a way for sinners.

  242. poohpity says:

    Isn’t that how God works the best when we are honest about what is deep within the circle of our hearts and minds.

  243. Beloved says:

    I I heard a pastor tell this story on Christmas Eve. I’ve never heard such a response to a statement a parishioner with a new baby made. She said to him “this baby isn’t sinless but the baby Jesus was.” His response, “Jesus was sinless but He still kept his parents up at night and gave them problems later on”. Wow never heard that!!

    My personal thought was that Jesus learned obedience and gained wisdom and knowledge as He grew. Now that “learning” which we all have to do makes more sense. “Train up a child in the Way he should go…”. Jesus training was by parents and his Jewish community. Ultimately by His Father as an earthling.

    Any thoughts about this?

  244. street says:

    if we are honest we recognize we are sin. Jesus came to save us from self. no condemnation for those in Christ Jesus. we die with Him in Hope of being raised up with Him, FirstFruit of the Harvest.

    Jesus, second Adam, Life Giving Spirit. dead to the flesh alive in the Spirit. new creation. are we to continue in sin??? NO!

    Jesus asked Simon if he saw the woman pouring perfume on His feet? Did He see her correctly or even notice her at all? don’t think he saw her correctly. She saw Jesus correctly. did Simon see the grace that was given her?

    the sermon this Sunday after Christmas.

    Merry Christmas !!!

  245. foreverblessed says:

    That was a good story: becoming a bird to be able to tell the birds.
    That story worked well for that man who did not understand incarnation.

    But the truth is becoming progressively more known to us. Jesus becoming man: the Body &blood on the Cross…
    That is a whole deeper meaning..
    Jesus body is the vehicle through which we can come to the Holiest of Holies, to the throne of the Father. Hebrews 10:19-23
    Good to study too.
    19 Therefore, brothers and sisters, since we have confidence to enter the Most Holy Place by the blood of Jesus, 20 by a new and living way opened for us through the curtain, that is, his body, 21 and since we have a great priest over the house of God, 22 let us draw near to God with a sincere heart and with the full assurance that faith brings, having our hearts sprinkled to cleanse us from a guilty conscience and having our bodies washed with pure water. 23 Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful.

    From Utmost today, about the Light:

    “The love of God working in me causes me to hate, with the Holy Spirit’s hatred for sin, anything that is not in keeping with God’s holiness. To “walk in the light” means that everything that is of the darkness actually drives me closer to the center of the light.”

    I was thinking that Jesus is the Light, so bring in Jesus I walk in the Light.
    But that comes to the same conclusion: if we do sin, we walk in darkness.

    Beloved, thoughts about Jesus learning obedience:
    Many preachers say: Jesus learned it for us: His obedience was ours, so the more we have faith in that we are in Jesus, the less we work ourselves, and have the Spirit working in us, the obedience of Jesus
    But…I hardly can comprehend that.
    We are nothing and can do nothing without Jesus.
    In Him we are valuable.
    In Him

  246. foreverblessed says:

    Being in Jesus is being in the Light,

    as Jesus is the Light

  247. Beloved says:

    I always looked on carrying my own cross not as easy but arm and arm with Jesus (yoked together) not easy until I let go of any anger or frustration or die. Bearing burdens (results) of others’ sins, my sins and learning how to do it correctly. But it’s only possible because of mercy and grace. Do you understand that?

  248. SFDBWV says:

    A little follow up to a few things I mentioned before.

    Remember the young man I mentioned whose mother had died just a week before he being admitted to university hospital? His name Norman.

    Remember the story of the little boy who talked to tombstones and seen a man standing in a tree at the cemetery where there was no one?

    Well, the little boy’s father was Norman and Norman passed away Christmas day at the hospital in Morgantown.

    And so goes life…


  249. poohpity says:

    Christ centered way of life;

    Christ is the visible image of the invisible God.
    He existed before anything was created and is supreme over all creation,
    for through him God created everything
    in the heavenly realms and on earth.
    He made the things we can see
    and the things we can’t see—
    such as thrones, kingdoms, rulers, and authorities in the unseen world.
    Everything was created through him and for him.
    He existed before anything else,
    and he holds all creation together.
    Christ is also the head of the church,
    which is his body.
    He is the beginning,
    supreme over all who rise from the dead.
    So he is first in everything.
    For God in all his fullness
    was pleased to live in Christ,
    and through him God reconciled
    everything to himself.
    He made peace with everything in heaven and on earth
    by means of Christ’s blood on the cross.

    21 This includes you who were once far away from God. You were his enemies, separated from him by your evil thoughts and actions. 22 Yet now he has reconciled you to himself through the death of Christ in his physical body. As a result, he has brought you into his own presence, and you are holy and blameless as you stand before him without a single fault.

    23 But you must continue to believe this truth and stand firmly in it. Don’t drift away from the assurance you received when you heard the Good News. The Good News has been preached all over the world, and I, Paul, have been appointed as God’s servant to proclaim it.

    24 I am glad when I suffer for you in my body, for I am participating in the sufferings of Christ that continue for his body, the church. 25 God has given me the responsibility of serving his church by proclaiming his entire message to you. 26 This message was kept secret for centuries and generations past, but now it has been revealed to God’s people. 27 For God wanted them to know that the riches and glory of Christ are for you Gentiles, too. And this is the secret: CHRIST LIVES ‘IN’ YOU. This gives you assurance of sharing his glory.

    28 So we tell others about Christ, warning everyone and teaching everyone with all the wisdom God has given us. We want to present them to God, perfect in their relationship to Christ. 29 That’s why I work and struggle so hard, depending on Christ’s mighty power that works WITHIN me.

  250. poohpity says:

    So it would seem that we are not in Jesus however He lives in us and works through us. What good would it be for anyone if we lived in Jesus, we have no power or authority but by His Holy Spirit living within us now that would give us His power to accomplish His will of doing the good He had planned for us from ages past.

  251. Beloved says:

    Not either or but both!

    Galatians 3:26-28
    New International Version
    26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God(A) through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ(B) have clothed yourselves with Christ.(C) 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free,(D) nor is there male and female,(E) for you are all one in Christ Jesus.(F)

  252. Hugger4U says:

    Ephesians 2! Love!

    In His Love,

  253. street says:


    1 to attribute human nature or character to (an inanimate object or an abstraction), as in speech or writing.

    2 to represent (a thing or abstraction) in the form of a person, as in art.

    3 to embody (a quality, idea, etc.) in a real person or a concrete thing.

    4 to be an embodiment or incarnation of; typify:

    image bearer

    make no image

    for the Glory of God.

    the invisible God made visible.

    no wonder people die, you must be born again.

    someday and incorruptible body with and incorruptible Spirit.

    thinking of 1 &2 Thessalonians.

  254. Beloved says:

    Just thinking if I am missing a few synapses (connections) I have a hard time following more than one road sign at a time. Probably why I am so slow at processing directions and recipes lol

  255. Beloved says:

    Give me one thing to focus on and I’m like melting butter on a cold summer day 🤣

  256. Beloved says:

    Zechariah2: 7Up! Escape to Zion, you who dwell with the daughter of Babylon.
    8For thus said the LORD of hosts, after his glory sent me to the nations who plundered you, for he who touches you touches the apple of his eye:
    9“Behold, I will shake my hand over them, and they shall become plunder for those who served them. Then you will know that the LORD of hosts has sent me.
    10 Singpp and rejoice, O daughter of Zion, for behold, I come and I will dwell in your midst, declares the LORD.
    11And many nations shall join themselves to the LORD in that day, and shall be my people. And I will dwell in your midst, and you shall know that the LORD of hosts has sent me to you.
    12And the LORD will inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land, and will again choose Jerusalem.”
    13Be silent, all flesh, before the LORD, for he has roused himself from his holy dwelling.

    I was thinking about how God roused himself to be born for the first time in a human body that we may become born again to new life in Christ forevermore. Touches the apples of His eye!
    Be silent the prophet said. Silent night, Holy night all is calm all is bright…

    I love meditating on our three in one God. I love it.

  257. foreverblessed says:

    When I was younger, I always thought this passage in Zechariah was about Jesus’ second coming. But I really like it, being His coming as a baby, in a manger. Dallas Jenkins made a video on the shepherds in the fields, the shepherds that raised the sacificial lambs, when they were born they were wrapped in clothes. And here come the shepherds and they see a baby wrapped in clothes in a manger. The Lamb of God, that would take away the sins of the world.
    It goes viral now.

  258. foreverblessed says:

    It goes both ways: we in Jesus and Jesus in us
    John 14:20 On that day you will realize that I am in my Father, and you are in me, and I am in you
    John 15:1-17
    “I am the true vine, and my Father is the gardener. 2 He cuts off every branch in me that bears no fruit, while every branch that does bear fruit he prunes[a] so that it will be even more fruitful. 3 You are already clean because of the word I have spoken to you. 4 Remain in me, as I also remain in you. No branch can bear fruit by itself; it must remain in the vine. Neither can you bear fruit unless you remain in me.

    5 “I am the vine; you are the branches. If you remain in me and I in you, you will bear much fruit; apart from me you can do nothing. 6 If you do not remain in me, you are like a branch that is thrown away and withers; such branches are picked up, thrown into the fire and burned. 7 If you remain in me and my words remain in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. 8 This is to my Father’s glory, that you bear much fruit, showing yourselves to be my disciples.

    9 “As the Father has loved me, so have I loved you. Now remain in my love. 10 If you keep my commands, you will remain in my love, just as I have kept my Father’s commands and remain in his love. 11 I have told you this so that my joy may be in you and that your joy may be complete. 12 My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you. 13 Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. 14 You are my friends if you do what I command. 15 I no longer call you servants, because a servant does not know his master’s business. Instead, I have called you friends, for everything that I learned from my Father I have made known to you. 16 You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you so that you might go and bear fruit—fruit that will last—and so that whatever you ask in my name the Father will give you. 17 This is my command: Love each other.”

    Remain in Me, abide in Me, that means we are in Him, because the Word of God says so.
    “It is because of Him that you are in Christ Jesus” 1 Cor 1:30
    We do not have to fight to get in, we are already in, just keep believing that.
    Remain in Him, is the same as to remain in love, living one another, being patient with one another, ODB today talks about it, also to remain in love, whatever resistance there is.

  259. foreverblessed says:

    Living one another should read: loving one another.

    In the High Priestly prayer, John 17 Jesus talks about the Oneness, between the Father and Jesus:
    …like You, Father in Me, and I in You…
    both ways.
    And we should all be one…as the Father and Jesus are one.
    It is an amazing Word, we remain in Jesus, when we remain the the Words Jesus spoke, the Words that the Father gave to Jesus, when you remain in Me, and My words remain in me.
    The Words Jesus spoke, they are Life, they are the Light, they are the delight of our hearts, the New Covenant, they overtake the Law of Moses, Moses, who said: when the Prophet comes, listen to Him Deut 18:18
    These Words we are to study, and rehearse and meditate upon. And see from many sides. These are also the Words that would judge, Jesus Himself does not judge, but the Words that I speak will judge.

    And of course, Jesus talks about the Holy Spirit, that would take from Jesus, that is also of the Father, and give it to us, John 16:13-15.

    But then there is also this verse:
    John 17:23
    I in them, and You in Me, so that they are perfectly one.

    The word of God is being brought to us progressively, each time a little more, and deeper. I really like discussing it, and mediating on it. Taking it to the Lord, instead of throwing it to the side immediately, as false teaching.
    But….it is a discipline to remain in love. Remember how I believed wrong teaching, and God was patient with me.

  260. foreverblessed says:

    The teaching of Jesus on His last night on earth, John 13 to John 17, is wonderful, but overwhelming, I don’t get the depth of it. But they are the focus point of meditation of Psalm 119, from Alpha to Omega just wonderful

  261. poohpity says:

    Such a respectful discussion. No name calling or put downs but a correction of my comment of Dec 27th @8:17 am nonetheless. I see that it is both Christ in us and us in to Him.

  262. foreverblessed says:

    “So it would seem that we are not in Jesus however He lives in us and works through us”.
    What did you mean by that, Pooh?

  263. foreverblessed says:

    Ok, never mind, I see that you say that your comment is being corrected. ;-)

  264. foreverblessed says:

    About us in Him and He in us.

    I had to rethink about it, since the topic of Thomas of Aquinas, body and blood of Jesus. That Jesus is in us, through the Holy Spirit, that was obvious to me. But that we are in Him, continually, still, and not only a one time thing when we were converted and born again, as it is said in Rom 6:1-6, that when we were baptised we were baptised into His death,
    And immediately we go on to the next point, the sooner we forget that death the better:
    So that we can be raised with Him to life, the life in the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit living in us.

    But, every time, we go into the Holies of Holies, we go through the veil, which is His Body, though we are washed in His Blood.
    Hebrews 10:19-23

    Through the veil….
    Again and again?

  265. foreverblessed says:

    We are in Him, has a great meaning, everything that Jesus experienced while on earth, is for us, we have to believe that more and more, what Jesus did is ours, what happened to Him, is in faith, our experience. Not that we experience it, but we can grab ahold of it in faith.
    Like the death to the old man, it has happened already, long ago on the Cross.
    A Bible teacher once explained it like this:
    We are like a piece of paper put into a book. Where the book goes, the piece of paper will go. The closer our relation with Jesus, the more He will show us what happened in His Passion, from Gethsemane to the Cross, and into the grave.
    And..yes also in the sunlit garden on Easter Morning, but is it then Jesus in us, through the Holy Spirit, or both?

  266. Beloved says:

    Forever have you ever experienced the stigmata? Some I’ve heard have. Reacting to “progressive revelation” it seems to be a death of self not gaining more knowledge. But that could be wrong I don’t know. Such mystery within the Triune and towards us.

  267. Beloved says:

    This has always confused me Forever that scripture says Jesus is seated on the right hand of God on the throne. So is that “seated” “positionally” as a monarch is seated yet still gets up and walks around?

    I’ve heard the paper and apple explanation but none come close to the Reality. We try to understand things too high for us. We’re too frail.

  268. Beloved says:

    Through the veil- death to life! Dead Adam now Jesus the new Adam. Adam born again as Nicodemus understood. And others.

  269. Beloved says:

    Dear friends,
    if I am not making sense it’s because I have Covid fog and I say dumb things lately. Not sure how long this will last but I still can’t taste my coffee 😞. Ugh

  270. poohpity says:

    I think each day that has to be a personal decision to be in Jesus or abide or live in Him to be my center or to make myself that center.

  271. Beloved says:

    Yes! I just read that we are to “hold fast without wavering”

    23 xLet us hold fast the confession of our hope without wavering, for he who promised is faithful.

  272. Beloved says:

    Many are called, Jesus said, but few are chosen. He’s always faithful but it takes two to have a relationship I’m thinking. When one leaves it’s over no matter how faithful the other, right?

  273. Beloved says:

    Peter says we have a responsibility once chosen.

    NASB 1977
    Therefore, brethren, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you; for as long as you practice these things, you will never stumble;

    Amplified Bible
    Therefore, believers, be all the more diligent to make certain about His calling and choosing you [be sure that your behavior reflects and confirms your relationship with God]; for by doing these things [actively developing these virtues], you will never stumble [in your spiritual growth and will live a life that leads others away from sin];

  274. poohpity says:

    So Joyce by what those verses say there is a difference in Christ in us than us being in Christ. Christ’s spirit dwells in us but we make a choice to live a Christ centered life which seems to mean we live a life in Christ as our focus. Indwelt (in) vs abiding (in). I guess like when we drink water it goes in us but when we jump in the water we are in the water.

  275. Hugger4U says:

    Jesus is in us when we, by faith, answer His call, believe in His redemptive sacrifice on the cross, His resurrection from the dead, and reconciliation with God in Heaven.

    I am all in, pledged to Jesus, my groom, forsaking all others. That is my in.

    He first loved me, then I loved Him.

    Have a wonder filled day as you follow Him.

  276. Beloved says:

    Steve I read that when they opened the time capsule underneath the statue of General Robert E Lee they found a Bible. Foundations removed Its symbolic of what’s going on in the country. I wonder how long until they remove the Bible from the White House.

  277. street says:

    beloved said, This has always confused me Forever that scripture says Jesus is seated on the right hand of God on the throne. ”

    7 If you [a]had known Me, you would have known My Father also; from now on you know Him, and have seen Him.”

    8 Philip *said to Him, “Lord, show us the Father, and it is enough for us.” 9 Jesus *said to him, “Have I been with [b]you for so long a time, and yet [c]you have not come to know Me, Philip? The one who has seen Me has seen the Father; how can you say, ‘Show us the Father’?

    4 But God, being rich in mercy, because of His great love with which He loved us, 5 even when we were dead [i]in our wrongdoings, made us alive together [j]with Christ (by grace you have been saved), 6 and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus,

  278. Beloved says:

    Thanks I’d forgotten about the conversation with Phillip.

    To be raised up and seated with Him in the heavenly places, yes!

    Makes me think of a *family*, a celestial Family! Wonder why we spend so much time looking at things below rather than things above.

  279. Beloved says:

    Thank you so much street for clearing away my confusion.

  280. foreverblessed says:

    John 14:1-3 verse of the day on Bible gateway:

    “Do not let your hearts be troubled. You believe in God; believe also in me. My Father’s house has many rooms; if that were not so, would I have told you that I am going there to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come back and take you to be with me that you also may be where I am.”

    “…and raised us up with Him, and seated us with Him in the heavenly places in Christ Jesus”

    We are seated in heavenly places, but not in ourselves, but in Christ Jesus.

    I just had to look at these two Bible passages
    and thinking….

  281. Beloved says:

    When I was in school I recall a favorite teacher who had studied at Aberdeen Scotland for his doctorate teaching us we live in the tension of the “already but not yet”. He became a favorite of most after this; although he was not the first to use that terminology we soon found out from a less popular prof, lol.

  282. Beloved says:

    Please pray for my sister who’s son is in solitary confinement with federal charges. He will never be out. My sister is getting hate messages and had to go off all social media but she lives alone and I’m worried for her. I keep encouraging her in the LORD and will continue. Some are blaming her for her sons actions. Thank you

  283. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, praying for your sister and her son! May they call on the Name of Jesus!
    God have mercy, thank You Lord, that You call us to Your Holiest of Holies, that through Jesus we may enter, in the Spirit, and present for You our cases, today Beloveds sister and son, thank You for listening, thank You for Your Grace and Mercy and Love.

  284. poohpity says:

    A little silvered hair lady calls her neighbor and says, “Please come over and help me. I have a killer jigsaw puzzle and I can not figure out how to get started.” Her neighbor asks, “What is it supposed to be when it is finished?”. The little silvered hair lady says, “According to the picture on the box, it’s a rooster”. Her neighbor decides to go over and help with the puzzle. She let’s him in and shows him where she has the puzzle spread all over the table. He studies the pieces for a moment, then looks at the box, then turns to her and says, “First of all no matter what we do we will not be able to assemble these pieces into anything that resembles a rooster.”. Then he takes her hand and says, “Secondly I want you to relax. Let’s have a nice cup of tea and then”.. with a deep sigh…. “Let’s put all the corn flakes back in the box.”

    A little humor to start the New Year!!

  285. Beloved says:

    Thank you forever I know how any trials serve to draw us closer to God so have been crying out for mercy and the gift of tears for my nephew especially.

  286. Beloved says:

    Love the old people jokes!

  287. Beloved says:

    What if instead of focusing on a line of degrees from left to right— we think of a circle that, personified in Jesus,

    I was thinking about David- a man after Gods heart. When Saul, Gods anointed, was going after David to kill him God told David not to kill him. David was obedient through a very difficult time, his Psalms reflect pain and hope in God.

    What I was thinking was that without David’s struggles we would know much about God. Question : are all our troubles “anointed” by God to teach us more about Himself? I know it’s a funny way to look at “troubles” but it’s the only way that makes heavenly sense to me. Heavenly is forever and earthly is temporary and will soon be forgotten. Though I’ve seen troubles great and many the LORD will lift me up, said David. I can affirm the same.

    Seems to me that by embracing our troubles we gain a better understanding of God.

  288. foreverblessed says:

    Seems to me too!
    When I read the first time, it was in Utmost, that what we go through, troubles, might not always be for ourselves, but can also be for the sake of others.
    That was a insight that I had not considered before. God leading us through some crisis, so that after that we can help others better.
    The scripture in Corinthians,
    ” The comfort wherewith we have been comforted, to comfort others” goes with it.
    When we have given our lives to Jesus, we are part of the ministry of reconciliation.
    Jesus drawing others to Himself, through us.

  289. foreverblessed says:

    But….all the while having our eyes on Jesus first and foremost, not on the needs of others, lest we be drowned in heaviness.

  290. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All
    I pray that you and yours are well, and thank you for your prayers and sympathy in the loss of my brothers. Have enjoyed the discussion on what I would call, Jesus at the Center of it All… If you haven’t heard that song by Israel Houghton, you have to listen to it. It’s beautiful. I meant to stop by and chat with you all on yesterday, but I got distracted by a movie that I was watching on a free movie channel. It was about a 12 year old girl (Mallory) who was being bullied at school, and she ended up killing herself. The girl’s parents didn’t know how mean-spirited her classmates really were. Mallory’s classmates used social media to harass her 24/7, until they broke her spirit, and she no longer wanted to live. It’s so easy to forget that when children are that young, school is their whole world, and they can’t see past their childhood into adulthood. The movie was very sad—but had what I could describe as a silver lining because Mallory’s mother started a movement in order to help other parents recognize the affect that bullying has on young children. So, there was good closure at the end of the movie. I was also distracted because, as you know, I’m one of the caregivers for my mom until I return to work on Monday. And, praise the Lord, my sister told me—yesterday—that she finally found someone (she’s in the process of vetting her) who she thinks will be able to do the job full time.🙌🙌🙌 There’s a nice, quiet extra room in the house where the full time caregiver will live. The job comes with room and board for the caregiver who qualifies for the position. Well, I guess I’ll catch some 😴 ‘s now. It was great chatting with yall, and I’m planning on returning later on today.

    Yesterday was another beautiful, balmy 75+ degree day, and we’ll have warm weather in my neck of the woods until Sunday. It’s 58 degrees right now and clear, and the high temp for today will be 73 degrees.

    Love to all,

  291. SFDBWV says:

    One of our council members is 96 years old. An old friend, a Navy veteran of WWII and a model citizen of our community has contracted Covid.

    Fully vaccinated with both boosters.

    His name is George

    A councilmember somewhat new to our community is in the local hospital on oxygen with covid.

    Fully vaccinated with boosters.

    His name is John.

    “Drowned in heaviness”…
    Easy to say keep our eyes on the Lord, but difficult under the weight of this world and our sorrows for it to erase the pain or remove the weight.

    Difficult but not impossible as we rage against the darkness of this world and place our hope on Him.

    The end has to be near.


  292. foreverblessed says:

    This is not good news, Steve. I pray God be with them.
    In my old fundamental church, it was not allowed to be vaccinated, nor going to a doctor. I am sorry, I have nothing to say about those who refuse vaccins. I pray intercessory prayer.
    There was a big story from the Bible belt in our country. A physician, from Iran, non-believer, and the village vicar, they were communicating, respectful, just to keep talking. The vicar, or pastor, gave the Iranian a Bible, and was telling that the Apocalypse was coming and this is what God wanted. The Iranian tried to get the message that older people really do get sick, and die of Covid, they have better chances with a vaccin. (Statistically this is so, due to chance a local situation might just be negative). There had been so many deaths and chronic cases, the Physician was just concerned. He started to read the Bible to see what the God of the Bible did. And he came up with Joseph in Egypt:
    Look, he says to the pastor: God is telling there is a drought coming, and precautions are taken by Joseph, to have reserves of grain: See God allows to take precautions! A non- believer, reading the Bible!

    And the pastor told his Church members.

  293. foreverblessed says:

    “Drowned in heaviness” it is easier to take the advice of Jesus: “Come to Me, and share all your troubles and worries to Me”
    when you have not done that for years, and got depressed, because of the weight of worries. There is just no other way, there is a point where you come to a realisation that it is useless, not to look up to Jesus.
    So: look up to Jesus, He is in charge, He carries the weight of worries troubles, sin, it is called, on the Cross, and they are thrown “as far as east is from the west”.

  294. foreverblessed says:

    Good to hear from you Regina, may God bless you and your mother and siblings, and caretaker, may God bless them all! And bless the house, and all who come in. I pray this, because we can! Enter into the Holies of Holies, washed by the blood of Jesus, through the veil, which is His body. And stand there, and worship our Savior, and bring our fellowmen to His attention. Because we are part of the ministry of reconciliation.
    May God be with Steve, and his loved ones, and his village members!
    And all of you here.
    Thank God!!! Father, Son and Spirit.

  295. poohpity says:

    Last year when the vaccines first came out they truthfully told us that the vaccines did not prevent getting the virus they helped prevent the severity when someone did get it. They were supposed to be used in the elderly and those with other health problems as an emergency treatment but since then this year they have taken what we were first told away from science and added political motives. When politics get involved the science seems to slip away and now no one can trust what the federal government is spewing because it changes everyday to benefit the federal government’s control not the people it is supposed to represent or help.

    They have stopped any information that goes against what we are fed by the federal government. It is blocked on social media and the news stations also just say what they are told to say.

    Here is what I have found out from experience. The vaccines I got the first of the year, both doses, the antibodies only lasted for 5 months then I no longer had any antibodies against the virus, so I got the booster and I do not know how long that will last. I had physical reactions to the first vaccines it caused bad swelling in the bottom of my legs, discoloration and a strange blistering which I went to several doctors only to be told they had no idea what it was even when I told them it happened after getting the vaccines they even did biopsies with no definitive results. It started going away as the primary vaccines wore off and I tried to let others know about it but facebook took it down. I found information about the physical side effects off of articles from the scientific communities of Israel and the UK.

    In times like these it is sad to say our country has fallen into something that looks a lot like communism when it comes to getting information. They tell you what they want you to know no facts just ideology and propaganda to take your focus away from what is plainly seen.

    God gives us discernment and wisdom. Now more than ever it is in our best interest to depend on Him in these times as it has always been to put Him in the center to guide and direct us. He is faithful and true.

  296. poohpity says:

    Have you ever read the boxes that the masks we buy say on them that they do not prevent the air borne particles from the virus which is what we were also told last year? The only masks that prevent that are the N95 kind. So wearing cloth or paper masks are of no benefit but to the people selling them.

    If anything all this has opened our eyes to do research on our own and not to believe everything we are told. But God has told us that for thousands of years maybe now people will listen.

  297. Hugger4U says:

    Thank you for posting the truth, Deb. I agree with everything you have said.

    I encourage you all to ask the Lord for what He wants you to do. Ask for wisdom and discernment, don’t just rely on yours or someone elses understanding, ask, seek and knock.

    Our government is even trying to withhold information for other remedies and in fact is trying to horde the monoclonal antibody sub Q injections from Florida right now since their governor announced that is what he wanted to offer his people for alternatives to the inoculations (that don’t last and have questionable ingredients).

    I could go on and on with all the info I found but don’t want to overwhelm you. It is very eye opening what is happening in our nation. Evil has had a foothold here through many things but the top offense right now is the shedding of innocent blood through government sanctioned abortions (it is Baal worship). Pray for the SCOTUS that they will do the right thing and pray the Lord’s will in all your prayers. I was given the assignment of praying for Sotomeyer and Roberts, but I pray for all of them to have an encounter with Jesus and the real Truth of abortion. That Jesus will give them dreams and visions in their nights and that He will send his people to them with the truth about what happens to the babies in abortions at all stages of pregnancy. They will not be able to avoid the TRUTH! And then I pray they will choose life and not death.

    Thank you for praying!

    In His Love and Truth,

  298. street says:

    thinking about the exodus from Egypt…..when God sent pestilence fire or even enemies into the camp. God did this for a reason.

    2 Listen, heavens, and hear, earth;
    For the Lord has spoken:
    “Sons I have raised and brought up,
    But they have revolted against Me.
    3 An ox knows its owner,
    And a donkey its master’s manger,
    But Israel does not know,
    My people do not understand.”
    4 Oh, sinful nation,
    People weighed down with guilt,
    [a]Offspring of evildoers,
    Sons who act corruptly!
    They have abandoned the Lord,
    They have despised the Holy One of Israel,
    They have turned away [b]from Him.

    6 That You should search for my guilt
    And carefully seek my sin?
    7 According to Your knowledge I am indeed not guilty,
    Yet there is no one to save me from Your hand.
    8 ‘Your hands fashioned and made me [a]altogether,
    Yet would You destroy me?

    2 “Even today my complaint is rebellion;
    [a]His hand is heavy despite my groaning.
    3 Oh that I knew how to find Him,
    That I might come to His home!

    18 Who says to a king, ‘You worthless one,’
    To nobles, ‘You wicked one’;
    19 Who shows no partiality to the prominent,
    Nor regards the rich as above the poor,
    Since they are all the work of His hands?
    20 In a moment they die, and at midnight
    People are shaken and pass away,
    And the powerful are taken away without a hand.

    Glory to God in the Highest!

  299. bratimus says:

    I think that choosing to take or not take the vaccines is a personal choice. No government official or church leader should way in on if you take it or not.

    taking the vaccine doesn’t make you anymore human and not taking it doesn’t make you any less human.

    I’m thinking that the Covid is sticking around from all the control and power grabs people are using it for.

    I know for a fact God could end the Covid.

    Matthew 24 speaks of pestilence, and we are not to be trouble. Also many will come and deceived.

    In Christ Jesus named


  300. street says:

    9 Remember the former things long past,
    For I am God, and there is no other;
    I am God, and there is no one like Me,
    10 Declaring the end from the beginning,
    And from ancient times things which have not been done,
    Saying, ‘My plan will be established,
    And I will accomplish all My good pleasure’;
    11 Calling a bird of prey from the east,
    The man of [a]My purpose from a distant country.
    Truly I have spoken; truly I will bring it to pass.
    I have planned it, I will certainly do it.

  301. street says:

    22 He[a] draws near to the place of corruption,
    and his life to the messengers of death.[b]
    23 If there is an angel beside him,
    one mediator[c] out of a thousand,
    to tell a person what constitutes his uprightness;[d]
    24 and if[e] God[f] is gracious to him and says,
    ‘Spare[g] him from going down
    to the place of corruption,
    I have found a ransom for him,’[h]

  302. SFDBWV says:

    Thought I might give you all an update on John and George.

    I spoke with John this evening he is home and though weak and tired feeling much better.

    George’s daughter tells me he is feeling much better today.

    I would like to thank any of you who took the time to offer up prayer for these two men.


  303. bullwinkle11 says:

    Wishing you all a blessed New Year. Stay strong in the Lord. Continue to pray for our nation.

    Steve, thank you for the report on these two gentlemen.

  304. poohpity says:

    Steve so good to hear the progress of your friends may they continue to heal.

    For this New Year of the Lord 2022;

    ‘May the Lord bless you
    and protect you.

    May the Lord smile on you
    and be gracious to you.

    May the Lord show you his favor
    and give you his peace.’

    In the name of Jesus.

  305. poohpity says:

    I am praying that my brothers/sisters will join me in reading through the New Testament Chronologically this year.

  306. Regina says:

    Good Morning, All
    I hope and pray that all is well with you and yours.🙏🏽 🥳 Happy New Year!📖🕊💒🥂 I’m so excited about all that God is going to do in, through and with us for His glory and honor! Will chat more later on… Hopefully before next weekend. That’s an excellent goal Pooh. I hope/pray that I can join you. I haven’t had time to catch up on reading the recent comments on this blog. One word: caregiver.

    24 degrees and mostly cloudy in my neck of the woods…

    Love to all,

  307. bullwinkle11 says:

    ODB this morning speaks of a fresh start in Christ. Sounds very similar to the discussion that has been taking place on this blog.
    Pooh, I use a website that takes one through the entire bible chronologically. It makes it much easier to follow than reading cover to cover, but I still get lost in all of the genealogies.

  308. poohpity says:

    yes bullwinkle I used bible gate way for many years for the whole bible chronologically but this year I was breaking from tradition and using bible study tools as a guide for concentration on the New Testament hopefully the things I learn about the life of Jesus I will be able with His help to put Him into practice. Still some genealogies but not as many, lol.

  309. SFDBWV says:

    Bullwinkle here is a little piece of information I picked up long ago that is interesting.

    Knowing that names in Scripture have meaning here is the names and their meanings from Adam to Noah.

    Adam, Man
    Seth, Appointed
    Enosh, Mortal
    Kenan, Sorrow
    Mahalalel, The blessed God
    Jared, Shall come down
    Enoch, Teaching
    Methuselah, His death shall bring
    Lamech, The despairing
    Noah, Comfort and rest

    Written out it reads, “Man (is) appointed mortal sorrow ;(but) the blessed God shall come down teaching His death shall bring the despairing comfort and rest.”

    I thought it kind of neat and puts a little more meaning to all that genealogy stuff.

    I hope you and all else enjoy.


  310. Hugger4U says:

    Happy New Year!

    I am reading chronologically this year also. Additionally with whatever the Lord gives. Sometimes I get a few words in a verse and go look it up and praise the Lord it was an answer to something that I was ‘chewing’ on.

    Praying that we all will continue to keep God first in our lives, seeking, asking, knocking.

    I heard a teaching on the meaning of names in genealogies earlier this year, Steve. Thanks for sharing. It is awesome how the Lord gave us the Word that is so rich, alive and active! It is a treasure of endless revelation to those who are seeking Him with our whole mind, heart, soul, spirit and strength. Fully surrendered to Him. Jesus, our friend and brother!

    Have a revelation filled year!

    In His Love,

  311. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Steve, for sharing that genealogy! The names give a meaning to the work of Salvation, the Cross!
    The genealogy in Matthew has a similar meaning, several years ago I started with that list. With the help of ccel, I have been looking for the notes I made, but couldn’t find them,
    For the name that is mentioned in the list of Matthew 1 there is a description of Jesus. There is a church father who made a study on this list, it is found in ccel. His name is Calena Aurea.
    Abraham Father of many nations (Jesus called Everlasting Father Isaiah 9:6,
    Issac, Laughter, Joy of my salvation. God laughs Psalm 2:1-12 the nation’s rage, but God laughs, because He brings a King, blessed is everyone who finds refuge in Him.
    Isaac was greatly desired by Abraham and Sarah, the Son of promise, Hag 2:7 He shall come, the desire of the nations.
    Jacob, “Supplanter” Jesus comes to supplant the ruler of this world. Or, my own interpretation: Jesus is grabbed by the heel, but crushes the head of the serpent Gen 3:15

    Just a few names into the genealogy, and there is a massive impression of who Jesus is, and what He does.
    I still have to go on with the other names. Something for the future, and the Holy Spirit must give revelation, (thanks Hugger, for that blessing of Revelation)

  312. bullwinkle11 says:

    Steve, thank you so much for that list. Wonderful to see God’s plan for salvation, aka Jesus, was there from the beginning.
    It has gotten cold for a few days here in Texas, down to 20 this morning after enjoying highs near 80 last week. Didn’t take me long to become a wimp, not tolerant of colder temperatures.

  313. foreverblessed says:

    Rectification: Catena Aurea by Thomas Aquinas, a book named: the golden chain, in there is a chapter on the Gospel of Matthew, citing what the church fathers have written about Matthew, beginning with Matthew 1:1, the genealogy.

  314. foreverblessed says:

    Hello Bullwinkle, here it is way too warm for the time of year, the warmest temperature on Old years eve, as we call the night of Dec 31, and New year day, January 1, being 15’C, 60’F. Normally it would be just around freezing temperatures.

  315. SFDBWV says:

    An update to my 96-year-old friend George… His daughter took him yesterday to the ER around 4pm. They monitored his vitals and gave him some treatment I can’t remember or spell anyway and she was allowed to bring him back home about 9pm.

    His family and I are grateful for your prayers.

    Bullwinkle, I catch a few darts when I say this, but I think the plan of salvation, the story of Jesus began with the creation. That the theme of the Bible is all about Him and He can be found all throughout the pages of Scripture.

    I have also read that the story of Jesus and of the good news was also written in the stars and that during the time of Nimrod what we have come to know of as the “Zodiac” was corrupted to be what it is understood to be today, fortunetelling nonsense.

    All that had to be done was change the meaning of a few words.

    Just like some of the new translations of the Bible have done and continue to be done today.

    It is 24 degrees f here cloudy and wet from a few days of rain.


  316. foreverblessed says:

    On MUFHH (Utmost) someone shared this morning devotion, which has been in my heart too

    Morning by Spurgeon

    “Grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.” — 2Pe_3:18
    “Grow in grace”-not in one grace only, but in all grace. Grow in that root-grace, faith. Believe the promises more firmly than you have done. Let faith increase in fulness, constancy, simplicity.
    Grow also in love. Ask that your love may become extended, more intense, more practical, influencing every thought, word, and deed.
    Grow likewise in humility. Seek to lie very low, and know more of your own nothingness. As you grow downward in humility,
    seek also to grow upward -having nearer approaches to God in prayer and more intimate fellowship with Jesus. May God the Holy Spirit enable you to “grow in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour.” He who grows not in the knowledge of Jesus, refuses to be blessed. To know him is “life eternal,” and to advance in the knowledge of him is to increase in happiness. He who does not long to know more of Christ, knows nothing of him yet.Whoever hath sipped this wine will thirst for more, for although Christ doth satisfy, yet it is such a satisfaction, that the appetite is not cloyed, but whetted. If you know the love of Jesus-as the hart panteth for the water-brooks, so will you pant after deeper draughts of his love. If you do not desire to know him better, then you love him not, for love always cries, “Nearer, nearer.” Absence from Christ is hell; but the presence of Jesus is heaven. Rest not then content without an increasing acquaintance with Jesus. Seek to know more of him in his divine nature, in his human relationship, in his finished work, in his death, in his resurrection, in his present glorious intercession, and in his future royal advent. Abide hard by the Cross, and search the mystery of his wounds. An increase of love to Jesus, and a more perfect apprehension of his love to us is one of the best tests of growth in grace.”

  317. foreverblessed says:

    Well, you all know that I do a search on the meaning of the Cross, body and blood of Jesus.
    Someone called me yesterday, a woman who has been abused as child, I met her 23 years ago, in a women’s ministry, only women, many of them had been abused. She was doing fine, helping her mother who has dementia, but now she felt unworthy again because of the way her mother treated her. That train of thought:
    “They treat me without respect, I don’t take it any longer” That is feeding the old man.
    I tried to explain to her, that our old man has died with Christ. That it is a fact that happened to Jesus on the Cross, but that we were in His Body, there, hanging on the Cross, He drew all mankind in Himself, to die with Him, the old Adam has died, so that we could be raised with Him, Rom 6:3-14
    Because the one that has died has been freed from sin…
    Paul is admonishing us to not let sin reign in our mortal body, sin….also meaning the feeling of having no value, when someone is looking down on you. While…at the same time it is our old man who thinks that way: so these thoughts must not be dwelt upon, we must throw them out,
    and instead: bless that person asking God to bless them, because they need it, and so do we.

    When we first came to Jesus, the Comfort of the Holy Spirit was huge. For years and years, that is the first step in the Beatitudes. But the Holy Spirit guides us along the other ones, the whole path, till we come to: “Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and say all kinds of evil against you, because of Me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you, ( And Jesus Christ, who died for you)
    Matthew 5:11-13

    But….out old man dies not want this, if we refuse to do this.
    It is a matter of believing that he has died,
    And that is sinking in more, now that I study the meaning of the Body&Blood of Jesus, that we are to remember in the Lord’s table.
    so that we can live in newness of life:
    Ask God for the joy, to rejoice when we are treated as a doormat, praising Jesus, and blessing the person. And so spreading the Life of Jesus.
    (To make this a shorter comment, is a skillfully thing to do)

  318. bullwinkle11 says:

    Steve, could not agree more that Jesus is pictured throughout the old testament. Differing religions are created simply by changing the meaning of a few verses. How skillful mankind has become at sinful behavior.

    On the astronomy/astrology topic, it is obvious that the Magi knew that Jesus had been born by studying the stars.

    May you all have a blessed day.


  319. poohpity says:

    I also agree with Steve in that Jesus is prophesied about throughout the old testament. As Jesus Himself pointed out in Luke 24: Then Jesus said to them, “You foolish people! You find it so hard to believe all that the prophets wrote in the Scriptures. 26 Wasn’t it clearly predicted that the Messiah would have to suffer all these things before entering his glory?” 27 Then Jesus took them through the writings of Moses and all the prophets, explaining from all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.” Before the Resurrection Jesus used the old testament to teach His disciples and those who were eager and wanted to learn.

    Also in scripture there is a difference in astronomy and astrology. Astronomy was used for direction, coming seasons, etc. for those who traveled by sea or land but astrology was not supported because they attributed it to witchcraft or fortunetelling so there seems to be quite a difference there. (Isaiah 47:13-14 NLT)

  320. poohpity says:

    It seems the one translation that is used and so easily twisted by different religions is the KJV in it’s 17th century English. It was translated from the original text into Latin so that the privileged few could read it until the Queen in 1611 asked that the religious leaders translate it from Latin into English so at that time Prince James could rule his country by it when he became King. So it would seem when something is translated then translated then translated again it may lose something along the way and be easily used by different religions to say what they may want it to say but some like JW or Later Day Saints use KJV as their foundation bible “it seems” for that very reason.

  321. street says:

    can you have an understanding of a translation without the Spirit?

    25 At that time Jesus said,[b] “I praise[c] you, Father, Lord[d] of heaven and earth, because[e] you have hidden these things from the wise[f] and intelligent, and have revealed them to little children.[g] 26 Yes, Father, for this was your gracious will.[h]

    10 Or if he asks for a fish, will give him a snake?[a] 11 If you then, although you are evil,[b] know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts[c] to those who ask him! 12 In[d] everything, treat others as you would want them[e] to treat you,[f] for this fulfills[g] the law and the prophets.

    12 So then,[m] brothers and sisters,[n] we are under obligation, not to the flesh, to live according to the flesh 13 (for if you live according to the flesh, you will[o] die),[p] but if by the Spirit you put to death the deeds of the body you will live.

  322. street says:

    Well, you all know that I do a search on the meaning of the Cross, body and blood of Jesus.

    saw Jesus words with his disciples after His encounter with the woman at the well.

    31 Meanwhile the disciples were urging Him, saying, “Rabbi, eat something.” 32 But He said to them, “I have food to eat that you do not know about.”

    Matthew 4:4
    But He answered and said, “It is written: ‘Man shall not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes out of the mouth of God.’”

    John 4:10
    Jesus replied to her, “If you knew the gift of God, and who it is who is saying to you, ‘Give Me a drink,’ you would have asked Him, and He would have given you living water.”

  323. street says:

    …mystery of God, namely, Christ,[d] 3 in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. Colossians 2:2-4 NET

  324. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you Street, for all these verses, the Word of God.
    If we have Jesus we have everything, all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
    All the food, the drink, that gives us everlasting life.
    Jesus is the Bread from heaven, then Jesus says: I have food to eat that you know nothing of.

    It looks like a circle, and it is all about Jesus

  325. poohpity says:

    How to lose meaning in translations just plug a word into a search box and let the computer find all the verses that contain it. Then the words mean nothing in satisfying our spiritual hunger for a deeper relationship with the Lord. As Jesus said, “Depart from me I never knew you.”

  326. Beloved says:

    A call to the inner Circle/repentance

    4Or do you presume on the riches of his kindness and forbearance and patience, not knowing that God’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? 5But because of your hard and impenitent heart you are storing up wrath for yourself on the day of wrath when God’s righteous judgment will be revealed.

    My final warning.

  327. street says:


    grace is free and unlimited.

    Lord sustain us.

    let us not be accused of dressing the stones of the martyred.

    thinking of Paul.

    Galatians 6:17
    From now on let no one cause me trouble, for I bear the marks of Jesus on my body.

    some marks are visible, some are not.

    yet they still hurt……thinking of the God of all comfort in Corrinthians.

  328. Beloved says:

    Ouch indeed. Thinking of Lots wife. There are many ways to turn back. Yet it is the goodness grace and mercy of God that keeps us. He has chosen us, not ourselves.

  329. Beloved says:

    Street you said nothing wrong

  330. Beloved says:

    A call to the inner Circle/repentance

    22Repent, therefore, of your wickedness, and pray to the Lord. Perhaps He will forgive you for the intent of your heart. 23For I see that you are poisoned by bitterness and captive to iniquity.”

  331. Beloved says:

    Trying to briefly describe a “centered” way of life… and thought.

    According to McCheyne, those only are Christians who feed upon Christ, and live by Him. He points out that only 12 out of many stayed with Him. That those who at first heard his words with joy and eagerness became offended by them eventually. That this happens all the time today still. Thus, many are called, but few are chosen.

    Centered- feeding on and and living on Christ.

    Be warned

  332. Beloved says:

    Christina Rossetti poem

    In the bleak mid-winter
    Frosty wind made moan
    Earth stood hard as iron,
    Water like a stone;
    Snow had fallen, snow on snow,
    Snow on snow,
    In the bleak mid-winter
    Long ago.

    Our God, heaven cannot hold Him
    Nor earth sustain,
    Heaven and earth shall flee away
    When He comes to reign:
    In the bleak mid-winter
    A stable-place sufficed
    The Lord God Almighty —
    Jesus Christ.

    Enough for Him, whom cherubim
    Worship night and day,
    A breastful of milk
    And a mangerful of hay;
    Enough for Him, whom Angels
    Fall down before,
    The ox and ass and camel
    Which adore.

    Angels and Archangels
    May have gathered there,
    Cherubim and seraphim
    Thronged the air;
    But only His Mother
    In her maiden bliss
    Worshipped the Beloved
    With a kiss.

    What can I give Him,
    Poor as I am? —
    If I were a Shepherd
    I would bring a lamb;
    If I were a Wise Man
    I would do my part, —
    Yet what I can I give Him, —
    Give my heart.

  333. foreverblessed says:

    Comments on this blog
    Makes me think of the triune God:

    God the Father, God the Son, God the Holy Spirit.

    And God, Who wants to draw us into that circle ⭕

  334. foreverblessed says:

    Beloved, I just read this last night, and I was wondering about it:
    Even if there are not many chosen, the called are also with Him:

    But the Lamb will overcome them because He is Lord of lords and King of kings-
    and with Him will be His called, chosen and faithful followers.”
    All three
    Rev 17:14

  335. foreverblessed says:

    How to lose meaning in translations just plug a word into a search box and let the computer find all the verses that contain it. Then the words mean nothing in satisfying our spiritual hunger for a deeper relationship with the Lord. As Jesus said, “Depart from me I never knew you.”

    So if I do a search in Bible gateway on “the body of Christ” and there appear many verses, and I read them, they are of no use in my spiritual nourishment, and Jesus will say to me: “Depart from Me, for I do not know you”
    If you don’t mind Pooh, I will ask Jesus myself, what He says to me.

    But, in the search for the meaning of “the Body of Christ”, as in the Lord’s Supper,
    this is My body, the bread, take and eat, and
    This is My Blood, drink you all out of the cup.

    In that search I got mostly Bible verses about Body of Christ, being the Church. So, indeed, it did not bring me very far.

    But, lo and behold, God gave me the Bible study of Watchmen Nee, where he studied Rom 3-8, with the double meaning of the Cross.
    That brought me further into the study of the Body and blood of Jesus, about which Thomas Aquinas had a vision.
    And I have shared this here before.

  336. bullwinkle11 says:

    ODB deals with how we should treat others we may disagree with:
    This treatment isn’t limited to the people whose lifestyles and beliefs we agree with. Even when it’s difficult, may we extend grace and love to everyone we encounter as Christ guides us, recognizing that we’ve been redeemed by His love.

    Have a blessed day,

  337. SFDBWV says:

    I too listened to ODB message this morning, Pete. While the advice is wise and in concert with our Lord’s teaching, when applied to another I am reminded of an old saying; “You can lead a horse to water, but you can’t make him drink.”

    Probably one of the most frustrating experiences ever is to try and reason with unreasonable people.

    Which is why. I suppose the Lord told us to just wipe our feet and walk away.

    22 degrees f clear and awaiting 4-8 inches of snow this afternoon and overnight.

    Thank you for the blessing, which I reciprocate to you and yours


  338. poohpity says:

    No matter what anyone else says if we trust in the Lord we know that after the resurrection He sent the Holy Spirit to be a guide and teacher in His word and promised that the Holy Spirit would bring it to our remembrance. Don’t we have to have it in our minds first before it can be remembered?

    I often use the computer to find the addresses (book, chapter and verses) when He brings His word to mind. I have no idea what anyone’s relationship is with the Lord nor do I think it is my job to accuse anyone of anything because I believe that it is only the Lord that knows the heart of any given person.

    I just do not want at the end of my life for the Lord to say, “Depart from me I never knew you” if it is based on a word search rather than a search to know God deeper and deeper. But that is just me!

  339. foreverblessed says:

    “if it is based on a word search rather than a search to know God deeper and deeper. But that is just me!”
    Thanks for explaining Pooh, that sounds much better than what you wrote yesterday.

    The line of thought you have is very curious! When I do a search on a word I do that to get to know Jesus better.
    That is my whole intention, I read in the Bible to get to know Him better, I also acknowledge that God gave apostles, prophets, evangelists, teachers and pastor’s
    to prepare God’s people to works of service, so that the Body of Christ may be built up until we reach unity in the faith and in the knowledge of the Son of God, and become mature, attaining to the whole measure of the fullness of Christ.

    Then we will no longer be infants, tossed back and forth by the waves, and blown here and there by every wind of teaching and by the craftiness of men in their deceitful scheming.
    Instead, speaking the truth in love, we will in all things grow up into Him who is the Head, that is, Christ. From Him, the whole body, joined and held together by every supporting ligament, grows and builds itself up in love, as each part does its work.

    So I do study what other teacher have written before me, and I read often your words: those who do not rely on the Hy Spirit themselves, but listen to others teachers instead, which to me is again a judgment on your side.

    You see, Pooh, you can be led by the Spirit, to read the explanation He has given to others before me.
    The Holy Spirit gives enlightenment, directly,
    but …as the Word of God says: we are a Body,
    most of the time via others, but nothing that He had already starting to work in our hearts.
    God works in my heart, and then I find somebody else who has written about it much better than I do, and I use that.

  340. foreverblessed says:

    An example:
    Wonders of the Cross
    Wilkin van de Kamp
    If you do a search on that, you get a Bible study on YouTube, that you can watch.
    This teacher, from our country, has studied the Passion of Christ: 7 times His Blood did flow for us,
    from Leviticus 16:1-34
    The Day of Atonement, which was a shadow of what Jesus did on the Cross.
    I am so thankful that this Christian teacher did take the time to study this. And I went to a conference three days, with many other Christians, and together we went through the Passion.
    How incredibly great the washing of sin is, the cleansing of all, even the consequences of sin, Jesus took on Himself, which is the blood that flowed for us, by the crown of thorns that was put on His head, the thorns of the curse, because of the fall of Adam. Gen 3:17-19

    So you see, I did not study this myself, God had given revelation to this man, Wilkin van de Kamp, and I prayerfully, and humbly, sat there, and the Hy Spirit affirmed it in my heart, that this was the Truth.

    But now, there is another aspect of the Cross: the body of Christ hang on the Cross
    What is the meaning for us? This is a question that brings much more knowledge about Jesus Christ. It is a search to get to know Jesus better

  341. foreverblessed says:

    mystery of God, namely, Christ,[d] 3 in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.
    Jan 5, 12.02 am

    Jesus IS our wisdom
    How is that?
    Proverbs 9:1-6
    Wisdom has built her house, she has been out its seven pillars.
    She has prepared her meat and mixed her wine; she has also set her table. She has sent out her maids, and she calls from the highest point of the city.
    “Let all who are simple come in here!”
    Leave your simple ways and you will live.

    53 Jesus said to them, “Very truly I tell you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you have no life in you. 54 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise them up at the last day. 55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me, and I in them. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I live because of the Father, so the one who feeds on me will live because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Your ancestors ate manna and died, but whoever feeds on this bread will live forever.” 59 He said this while teaching in the synagogue in Capernaum.
    John 6:53-59

  342. foreverblessed says:

    Look on YouTube
    Seven wonders of the Cross, Wilkin van de Kamp

    14 video’s chronologically through the Passion of Christ, discussing the seven times Jesus was bleeding. Starting the first one in Gethsemane, sweating blood,
    And the seventh one, when a soldier pierced His side, and out came water and blood.
    What is that meaning for us? Now, today?!
    Wonderful to go through, I was praising God and so relieved! But it is again wisdom for me today.

  343. Beloved says:

    Do we choose the verse that suits our thinking? Do we add our own wisdom when interpreting? Can I trust myself to read correctly? Am I ready to be corrected by the Holy Spirit? It does take time and we are all at different places. All within the circle of grace.

  344. street says:

    What if instead of focusing on a line of degrees from left to right.

    looks like looking at the law. when this happens a judgment is required.

    problem is we are so poor at judging.

    Blessed are the poor in Spirit, for the Kingdom of God is theirs.

  345. street says:

    The God of Scripture can only be known by those to whom He makes Himself know. Nor is God known by the intellect. “God is Spirit” (John 4:24), and therefore can only be known spiritually. But fallen man is not spiritual; his is carnal. He is dead to all that is spiritual. Unless he is born again, supernaturally brought from death unto life, miraculously translated out of darkness into light, he can not see the things of God, (John3:3), still less apprehend them ( 1 Corinthians2:14).

  346. street says:

    Romans 3

    thinking of Jacob prevailing in his struggle with God in the dark.

    walking away with a limp.

    know God comes to mind. sinners know of God, but does the sinner believe God?

    intellect does fall short, yet wisdom is from God for you heart soul mind and body.

    new Master required. Light required. new Spirit required. new birth.

  347. street says:

    and you are not your own? 20 For you were bought at a price. Therefore glorify God with your body.

    21 So, I find the law that when I want to do good, evil is present with me. 22 For I delight in the law of God in my inner being. 23 But I see a different law in my members waging war against the law of my mind and making me captive to the law of sin that is in my members. 24 Wretched man that I am! Who will rescue me from this body of death?

    25 Thanks be[y] to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then,[z] I myself serve the law of God with my mind, but[aa] with my flesh I serve[ab] the law of sin.
    8 There is therefore now no condemnation for those who are in Christ Jesus.[a] 2 For the law of the life-giving Spirit[b] in Christ Jesus has set you[c] free from the law of sin and death. 3 For God achieved what the law could not do because[d] it was weakened through the flesh. By sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh and concerning sin, he condemned sin in the flesh, 4 so that the righteous requirement of the law may be fulfilled in us, who do not walk according to the flesh but according to the Spirit.

  348. Beloved says:

    I John 1 5This is the message we have heard from him and proclaim to you, that God is light, and in him is no darkness at all.
    6If we say we have fellowship with him while we walk in darkness, we lie and do not practice the truth.
    7But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanses us from all sin

  349. poohpity says:

    I wonder where and to whom could we go to get the information that the teachers use to teach us? To me it is like having a relationship with a person yet never going to them to talk but getting information about them from relatives, friends, spouses or others but never on a one on one basis. I wonder how close that relationship would ever be if I talked to everyone else but the person I wanted the relationship with? That does not sound like a good way to start a very intimate relationship to me but again that is just me and what is actually the desire of my heart to gain knowledge about someone or to develop a close intimate relationship with them?

    Just like there is a difference by the word “in” there is a difference by the word “knowing”.

  350. poohpity says:

    forever, Just like there is no difference in what I originally said and what I said later. The meaning was the same except Pete brought up the matter that was addressed in ODB so the reaction changed.

  351. poohpity says:

    There were three crosses when Jesus was crucified all three had bodies that hung from those crosses and all three bled but only one was raised from the dead. Death had no hold on Jesus because of who He is. So it is the resurrection that seems to be the redeeming part that conquered death and gave us a new kind of life. Not one that satisfies the flesh(word search) but one that satisfies the Spirit(God search).

  352. poohpity says:

    No one else can know what is in the heart of another well unless you truly know them and even then there are secret places that no one but God knows about. Thoughts and motives are not hidden from God even though we can deceive others but not God and He is the only one that truly matters after all.

  353. foreverblessed says:

    God bless you Pooh, I find it hard to discus scripture with you. So I leave it here.God is Your Lord, and He is mine. Be blessed.

  354. foreverblessed says:

    And even about reading the Bible you make it walking a narrow line:
    if doing a “word search” I fall of on one side, because someone has judged this is of the flesh.
    If I read from Christian teachers on a subject I fall on the other side, because I have no personal relation with God?!

    I prefer the topic:
    Jesus is a circle, through faith in Him, we are in the circle.
    With all my heart I am searching for Jesus, being in Him, if I read the Bible, or if I do a word search or if I read some Christian teachers sermon on a subject, I rely on the Holy Spirit, and put my whole trust in Him.

    “As a deer panteth for the waters so my soul panteth for for You, O God”
    Psalm 42:1

    I am IN the circle!

  355. foreverblessed says:

    Being in the circle:

    From Utmost today:

    Jesus said to him, “Have I been with you so long, and yet you have not known Me, Philip?” —John 14:9
    These words were not spoken as a rebuke, nor even with surprise; Jesus was encouraging Philip to draw closer. Yet the last person we get intimate with is Jesus. Before Pentecost the disciples knew Jesus as the One who gave them power to conquer demons and to bring about a revival (see Luke 10:18-20). It was a wonderful intimacy, but there was a much closer intimacy to come: “…I have called you friends…” (John 15:15). True friendship is rare on earth. It means identifying with someone in thought, heart, and spirit. The whole experience of life is designed to enable us to enter into this closest relationship with Jesus Christ. We receive His blessings and know His Word, but do we really know Him?

    Jesus said, “It is to your advantage that I go away…” (John 16:7). He left that relationship to lead them even closer. It is a joy to Jesus when a disciple takes time to walk more intimately with Him. The bearing of fruit is always shown in Scripture to be the visible result of an intimate relationship with Jesus Christ (see John 15:1-4).

    Once we get intimate with Jesus we are never lonely and we never lack for understanding or compassion. We can continually pour out our hearts to Him without being perceived as overly emotional or pitiful. The Christian who is truly intimate with Jesus will never draw attention to himself but will only show the evidence of a life where Jesus is completely in control. This is the outcome of allowing Jesus to satisfy every area of life to its depth. The picture resulting from such a life is that of the strong, calm balance that our Lord gives to those who are intimate with Him.

    So far Utmost,
    And then I confess, I am far from being calm, getting unsettled, defending how I read the Bible.
    Just staying Calm, and in Peace, laying things that unsettle at the altar. Remembering how patient Jesus was with me, when I judged that Christians really did not know Jesus, otherwise they would keep the Sabbath just as Jesus did. Ouch, do many wrong thinking, and yet God was so merciful to me, and so should I be patient.

    Even when people don’t see the relevance of the Body of Christ on the Cross, that He draws all to Himself, on the Cross, to die with Him, and be buried with Him, so that they could be raised to life with Him. If we are not buried with Him, we cannot be raised to life with Him. Why is this, that people can’t see it. Just making arguments about it.
    I pray intercessory prayer: God be merciful, just as You have been with me! Thank You for bring so patient, to You I look, and lift up my eyes to the mountains, as the Psalmist says, from where does me help come from? My help cometh from the Lord, He made heaven and earth.
    And about walking a line
    He will not let your foot slip- He who watches over you will not slumber.
    Psalm 121:1-3

  356. SFDBWV says:

    Oh my, winter finally showed up here last night with 9 inches of wet heavy snow.

    It is still only 11 degrees f, even though a mix of sun and clouds, flurries still come down to taunt us.

    My two plow drivers couldn’t work this morning as one is recovering from covid and the other recovering from several issues.

    So it was up to me to see things got opened up for everyone.

    Just as I finished the last street my plow quit working properly and I headed home tired and discouraged.

    Once home it was back to my normal duties of seeing to Matt’s needs and his routine.

    This is life and just a little glimpse into mine.

    It is the Lord who gives us work, the people in our lives and the ability to accomplish His will and sometimes ours.

    Life has often been referred to as a circle and it is also been seen as an object that has no end, no beginning and no end, just a round continuous loop.

    Once we have accepted the fact that God is there with us every step of our lives we can take some comfort in never being alone in our struggles, frustrations and our successes.

    The Holy Spirit our constant companion, friend, teacher, encourager, our strength and in whom we place all of our hopes and all of our next steps.

    The other day I mentioned wiping our feet and walking away when dealing with unreasonable people. After having a “Jethro Bodine” moment what I should have said was to just shake off the frustration and move on.

    Wisdom teaches us to not waste her instruction by casting pearls before swine. Something that can’t appreciate its value as well as not to argue with foolish people.

    It is good advice.


  357. Beloved says:

    The church is the exclusive portion of her Lord; none else may claim a partnership or pretend to share her love. Jesus, Your church delights to have it so! Let every believing soul drink solace out of these wells. Soul, Christ is near to you in ties of relationship. Christ is dear to you in bonds of marriage union, and you are dear to Him; behold, He grasps both of your hands with both His own, saying, “My sister, my bride.” Consider how the Lord gets such a double hold of you that He neither can nor will ever let you go. Be not, O beloved, slow to return the hallowed flame of His love.

  358. Beloved says:

    I think like God loves us is how we love others. We return his love by doing what he says, to love others not trying to change them to our way of thinking. There is no expectancy in love. It’s purity is undefiled but hurts when our love is not Pure.

    The circle mart talks about I think of as Jesus’ own blood. Not a clean line like an emoji but a messy one which within contains all the pain of human love. A crown of thorns adorned our bridegrooms head, not a lovely wreath.

    I can tell when I’m running on my human capacity to love, because it always fails me, then I cry LORD, help me! He never lets His beloved forget he is their only and best lover of souls. I’m so grateful.

  359. foreverblessed says:

    Thanks for that glimpse, Steve, 9 inches of wet snow, that 23 cm of snow, that is a lot.
    It is snowing just east of us. But not here. Not even frost.

    “The church is the exclusive portion of her Lord; none else may claim a partnership or pretend to share her love” Jesus as our sole “Lover”
    He is keen that our hearts are not shared with anything or anyone else. Jealous God, jealous is a very positive way. Someone on our housegroup wanted to share a sermon on Revelation 17, someone who put things that happen in the world next to Revelation 27. And he decided to know who the 10 kings were, that hated the woman on the beast, that is a prostitute. Prostitution, God is not only talking to the world, but also to Christians, that our churches are not warehouses. And as Street once mentioned, neither should there be a marketplace in our hearts selling and buying,
    “He is keen that our hearts are not shared with anyone else.”

  360. foreverblessed says:

    Buying and selling, sounds also like having arguments over a Bible issue, which one is more important, that Jesus died on the Cross, or that He was raised to life?
    So foolish indeed!

  361. street says:

    I think like God loves us is how we love others. We return his love by doing what he says, to love others not trying to change them to our way of thinking. There is no expectancy in love. It’s purity is undefiled but hurts when our love is not Pure.

    John 5:19
    So Jesus answered them, “I tell you the solemn truth, the Son can do nothing on his own initiative, but only what he sees the Father doing. For whatever the Father does, the Son does likewise.

  362. poohpity says:

    forever, first off I never accused anyone nor said anything about their relationship with the Lord that is not my business nor how they read or if they even read the bible that is something the Lord put’s in a person’s heart to do. However what I was saying is how can someone know someone personally if they always go through someone else rather than going to them one on one to develop a relationship. Also I was not discussing scripture with you which would be nice but rather than commenting on what you think about scripture you share what another person has said about it, not you. Like talking from the third or fourth party not directly from you and what the Lord has revealed to you when you do read scripture. It seems scripture is personal for the person reading it to grow, be guided and learn in getting to know God better. So you have totally misunderstood most often my intent because you would rather accuse me of things that are not true of me.

    I do not accuse any of you nor jump to conclusions about how your relationship is with the Lord because again THAT IS NOT ANY OF MY BUSINESS. I do not know about any of you guys everyday lives nor the fruit that is produced from your relationship with the Lord and I know without a doubt that is something that only GOD KNOWS and again THAT IS NOT ANY OF MY BUSINESS, but AS MOST OF YOU SEEM TO THINK THAT IT IS YOUR BUSINESS REGARDING ME.

  363. foreverblessed says:

    8 Though you have not seen him, you love him; and even though you do not see him now, you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, 9 for you are receiving the end result of your faith, the salvation of your souls.

  364. Beloved says:

    Just thinking, are there individual circles? A circle within the Circle? Not sure if I know. Just thinking.

  365. Beloved says:

    Forever that verse makes me smile!

  366. street says:

    One Lord body Spirit. Unity and fidelity come to mind.

  367. street says:

    Unity has your body part ever disobeyed you?

  368. Beloved says:

    I knew someone with a prosthetic leg once.

  369. Beloved says:

    I suppose until Jesus comes to claim His bride as described in Song of Solomon there will be briars thorns and weeds amongst. Not home yet. Hopeful.

  370. Beloved says:

    Thinking about unity- what came to mind was Paul’s statement in I Corinthians.

    RC Sproul wrote-
    One of the most important subdivisions of theology is Christology, which is the study of the person and work of Christ. Within that field of study, when we want to get at the aspect that is most crucial, the aspect that we may call the “crux” of the matter of Jesus’ person and work, we go immediately to the cross. The words crucial and crux both have their root in the Latin word for “cross,” crux, and they have come into the English language with their current meanings because the concept of the cross is at the very center and core of biblical Christianity. In a very real sense, the cross crystallizes the essence of the ministry of Jesus.

    This was the view of the apostle Paul. In his first letter to the church at Corinth, Paul made an astonishing statement about the importance of the cross to the entirety of the Christian faith: “And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of God. For I determined not to know anything among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified” (1 Cor. 2:1-2). Paul was a man who had the equivalent of two Ph.D.s in theology by the time he was 21 years of age, a man who wrote with great insight on the whole scope of theology. Nevertheless, he said that the focal point of his teaching, preaching, and ministry among the Corinthians was simply “Jesus Christ and Him crucified.

    He was so smart- God chose a very very smart well educated person to manage the church and keep them on track.

  371. Beloved says:

    Thinking of Pooh

    ◄ Psalm 50:15 ►

    Then call on me when you are in trouble, and I will rescue you, and you will give me glory.”

  372. Beloved says:

    Unity and fidelity

    Faithfulness unified under one Person. And there we are in a complete circle today. Best to stay focused on the one Person, Jesus.

    Let the poor say “I am rich!”
    Let the weak say “I am strong,
    Because of what the LORD has done for me.”
    and Give thanks…

  373. foreverblessed says:

    Thank you so much for that discussion, what Sproul said about the crux of Christianity, yes, that resonates with me.

    Thank you for sharing, and sharing that you had tot smile, ” you believe in him and are filled with an inexpressible and glorious joy, ” that made me smile even more:
    We are saved, let’s rejoice about that!
    The joy of my salvation
    That is also a Psalm.

  374. foreverblessed says:

    Oh, it is the Psalm of repentance!

    Restore to me the joy of Your salvation,
    Psalm 51:12

  375. foreverblessed says:

    Restore to me the joy of your salvation and grant me a willing spirit, to sustain me.
    Psalm 51:12
    But I trust in Your unfailing love, my heart rejoices in Your salvation
    Psalm 13:5
    That I may declare Your praises, in the gates of Daughter Zion, and there rejoice in Your salvation
    Psalm 9:14
    Come, let us sing for joy to the Lord; let us shout aloud to the Rock of our salvation
    Psalm 95:1
    I will clothe her priests with salvation, and her faithful people will ever sing for joy.
    Psalm 132:16
    With joy you will draw water from the wells of salvation.
    Isaiah 12:3

  376. poohpity says:

    Jesus said, ” And the Father who sent me has himself borne witness about me. His voice you have never heard, his form you have never seen, and you do not have his word abiding in you, for you do not believe the one whom he has sent. You search the Scriptures because you think that in them you have eternal life; and it is they that bear witness about me, yet you refuse to come to me that you may have life. I do not receive glory from people. But I know that you do not have the love of God within you. I have come in my Father’s name, and you do not receive me. If another comes in his own name, you will receive him. How can you believe, when you receive glory from one another and do not seek the glory that comes from the only God? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father. There is one who accuses you: Moses, on whom you have set your hope. For if you believed Moses, you would believe me; for he wrote of me. But if you do not believe his writings, how will you believe my words?”

  377. Beloved says:

    Then he opened their minds to understand the Scriptures, Luke 24:45

  378. foreverblessed says:

    You are very very welcome to share in the joy of our Salvation, Pooh, Just be joyful with all of us together, you are not left out! A glorious Rest we have entered, through Jesus Christ our Lord.
    Be part of the happy throng that goes together to praise Jesus, and worship Him.
    That is also a Psalm, I have to look it up.

  379. street says:

    Thinking of a circle. Could it be Marts mediocre for Spirit and Truth? Holy Spirit and Word of God

  380. street says:


  381. poohpity says:

    Oh forever thank you so much for inviting me to share with you the glory of your salvation. Never realized that I was not joyful at the salvation of others nor that I needed a invitation to do so. I was not feeling left out that is not at all what I said. I said it is not my business to judge any of y’all’s relationship with God as y’all feel it is your business to judge mine. Another misunderstanding of what is actually said to what you think I said which often is not reality.

    Beloved the quote from Jesus I posted was before the resurrection found in John 5 way before the one you posted from Luke which was after the resurrection.

  382. Beloved says:


  383. Beloved says:

    Yes! Isn’t that great to know that Jesus can open our eyes to understand things in ancient scriptures we never did before, was what I was thinking. He’s still alive and I love Him so much!

  384. Beloved says:

    Forever I agree wholeheartedly that we together join a throng of happy believers to praise our Jesus!

    I just discovered how my emotional disabilities bring praise and glory to God. As I was praying and as usual thanking God for all his provisions that I may live a very comfortable life I thought of the things on my floor that trigger them. Lots of ptsd triggers here. But when I am really triggered and feel overwhelmed ALL I can do for myself is to get on my knees and beg for mercy. Who better to go to than the One who is aware of everything that gets in the way of calm and peacefulness! Oh how I praise God for trials and troubles!

  385. Beloved says:

    Street sorry if I offended you by correcting your English. Maybe you don’t care to be corrected(ouch?

  386. Beloved says:

    Some don’t care to be corrected OR directed. It’s tricky to know but I take no offense if you rebuke me.

  387. foreverblessed says:

    Let me hear you singing songs of praise! How great God is!
    How Jesus is our salvation!

  388. Beloved says:

    Spiritual direction

    It’s a real thing. Yet some don’t take it or want it unless they ask for it. Otherwise it’s best for everyone to be silent and wait. When you offer it they may not be ready to understand/hear it which creates conflict and to the other feels bossy and condescending.
    I know I’m guilty of it as spirituality is my main focus in life. Not politics sports gardening golf or ??? Which limits who I talk with more than briefly.

    I assume that because this is a spiritual blog that all here want to discuss spirituality and grow in the Christian faith.

    Just some lazy day thoughts in between phone calls from a 6 year old granddaughter who got a phone for Christmas with grandmas # programmed in. Toys have certainly gotten more sophisticated then when I was 6!

  389. Beloved says:

    The idea of rocks crying out comes from the story of Christ’s triumphal entry into Jerusalem the week before the Crucifixion. … They get this response: “And he answered and said unto them, I tell you that, if these should hold their peace, the stones would immediately cry out.” (Luke 19:40 KJV)

    Wouldn’t we love to hear creation cry out!

  390. street says:

    beloved your interpretation is correct. was not on my normal IT. very hard to post on a very small screen and use the bells and whistle. should stick to laptop. it took me a minute to find out how to spell whistle. lol

  391. street says:

    don’t usually watch movies, but saw two today. the spirit behind them makes me long for home. mostly chase and fight movies. the suspense was good. hehe

    blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God.

    I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy.

  392. street says:

    The idea of rocks crying out comes from the story of Christ’s triumphal entry into Jerusalem the week before the Crucifixion. …

    the rocks were crying out! go back to read what John the Baptist said about rocks.

    we are the rocks to be conformed to the image of Jesus.

  393. poohpity says:

    This is what John the Baptist said about turning stones into descendants of Abraham;

    But when he saw many Pharisees and Sadducees coming to watch him baptize, he denounced them. “You brood of snakes!” he exclaimed. “Who warned you to flee the coming wrath? 8 Prove by the way you live that you have repented of your sins and turned to God. 9 Don’t just say to each other, ‘We’re safe, for we are descendants of Abraham.’ That means nothing, for I tell you, God can create children of Abraham from these very stones. 10 Even now the ax of God’s judgment is poised, ready to sever the roots of the trees. Yes, every tree that does not produce good fruit will be chopped down and thrown into the fire.

    11 “I baptize with water those who repent of their sins and turn to God. But someone is coming soon who is greater than I am—so much greater that I’m not worthy even to be his slave and carry his sandals. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire. 12 He is ready to separate the chaff from the wheat with his winnowing fork. Then he will clean up the threshing area, gathering the wheat into his barn but burning the chaff with never-ending fire.”

  394. poohpity says:

    Jesus describes what a life looks like with Him in the center in Luke 6:27-49 NLT. So wouldn’t it be wise to take a look within and see if what we do looks anything like what Jesus taught and if not then to spend more time with Him centered and watch as He changes us because after all everyone has room for change, it is just easier to see what needs changing in others than in ourselves.

  395. Beloved says:

    Yes you’re right Pooh it is easier to see what needs changing in others than in ourselves. Best to look at Jesus rather than a mirror, I’m thinking. Everything Jesus said is meant for everyone to follow. I wish you success.

  396. Beloved says:

    Search my heart, oh LORD, and see if there be any wicked way about me. Said David. Christs’ followers do this daily.

  397. poohpity says:

    I believe that when we read scripture it is more like a mirror so we can see ourselves clearer rather than using it as a window through which one looks at others and critiques them. But sadly often when one looks in the mirror they often forget what they saw when they walk away. I think as long as I remember that I am a sinner saved by God’s amazing grace then I will not look down on others.

    Well if one uses Jesus as a window to look at others I think the way we treat them will change but that would take a Christ centered heart.

  398. poohpity says:

    Beloved, if everything Jesus said is meant to follow then why don’t people know what He said and do it? Again sadly people are only hearers of His word not doers. One expects others to follow His word but when it comes to their own life they seem to love pulling scripture out from word searches to apply to someone else and not to themselves.

  399. Beloved says:

    We as children disobeyed our parents so also we disobey our heavenly Parent. You will find that everyone, including myself and you, disobey Jesus at one time or another. Why? Because He was so radical and counter to the culture and still is.

    Some saw (and still do) see Him as a good teacher but He was more, He is God made flesh! It is His Spirit that keeps us in the Loop (circle) of Gods Kingdom here and in heaven. Discipline is not fun, but the training is priceless in its reward, Christlikeness.

    The only reason, as you said, “one expects others to follow His word…” is that as part of the Body of Christ here on earth we are to hold each other accountable to follow Jesus to maintain the integrity of Christs Body. Jesus wants a perfect bride.

    All scripture is given for reproof correction, training in righteousness etc; Paul told Timothy. In fact, reading Paul’s letters to Timothy and Titus are all about conduct within the Church.

    We are all at different places spiritually so our spiritual training may look really messy. To me the Body looks more like gumbo most days. But as long as our focus is on our Head, Jesus, we trust He will get us through our training in righteousness.

    Holy Holy Holy is our God.

  400. Beloved says:

    S I N

    We cannot forget that is was sin that separated and made us unholy in all our thoughts words and deeds in the first place. We were born sinners. Change takes a lifetime. If I take ALL of scripture as for myself as well as others I seem to learn/ grow fatter. It’s sin that sets me on my hackles toward others.

  401. Beloved says:

    Faster not fatter lol

  402. poohpity says:

    Beloved, you said, “All scripture is given for reproof correction, training in righteousness etc; Paul told Timothy. But the one thing that is so important about those verses that seems selectively left out, is it is for those reading the scripture, not for us to use for someone else.

    “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness, 17 so that you, a man(servant) of God may be thoroughly equipped for every good work.”

    Do you see the reason why pulling scripture out of context to say what a person wants it to say is so troublesome?

  403. street says:

    thinking of windows and doors.

    Genesis 4:7
    Is it not true that if you do what is right, you will be fine? But if you do not do what is right, sin is crouching at the door. It desires to dominate you, but you must subdue it.”

    Genesis 6:16
    Make a roof for the ark and finish it, leaving 18 inches from the top. Put a door in the side of the ark, and make lower, middle, and upper decks.

    Exodus 12:23
    For the Lord will pass through to strike Egypt, and when he sees the blood on the top of the doorframe and the two side posts, then the Lord will pass over the door, and he will not permit the destroyer to enter your houses to strike you.

    Exodus 21:6
    then his master must bring him to the judges, and he will bring him to the door or the doorpost, and his master will pierce his ear with an awl, and he shall serve him forever.

    Matthew 7:8
    For everyone who asks receives, and the one who seeks finds, and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

    23 Someone[a] asked[b] him, “Lord, will only a few[c] be saved?” So[d] he said to them, 24 “Exert every effort[e] to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to. 25 Once[f] the head of the house[g] gets up[h] and shuts the door, then you will stand outside and start to knock on the door and beg him, ‘Lord,[i] let us in!’[j] But he will answer you,[k] ‘I don’t know where you come from.’[l]

    10 “I tell you the solemn truth,[a] the one who does not enter the sheepfold[b] by the door,[c] but climbs in some other way, is a thief and a robber. 2 The one who enters by the door is the shepherd of the sheep. 3 The doorkeeper[d] opens the door[e] for him,[f] and the sheep hear his voice. He[g] calls his own sheep by name and leads them out.[h]

    Mark 13:34
    It is like a man going on a journey. He left his house and put his slaves in charge, assigning to each his work, and commanded the doorkeeper to stay alert.

    John 10:7
    So Jesus said again, “I tell you the solemn truth, I am the door for the sheep.

    John 10:9
    I am the door. If anyone enters through me, he will be saved, and will come in and go out, and find pasture.

    John 18:16
    But Peter was left standing outside by the door. So the other disciple who was acquainted with the high priest came out and spoke to the slave girl who watched the door, and brought Peter inside.

    19 On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the disciples had gathered together[e] and locked the doors[f] of the place[g] because they were afraid of the Jewish leaders.[h] Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, “Peace be with you.”

    Revelation 3:20
    Listen! I am standing at the door and knocking! If anyone hears my voice and opens the door I will come into his home and share a meal with him, and he with me.

  404. Beloved says:

    Pooh you have to get past what is intended by the one quoting and look inside to what God may be saying to you! All truth is Gods truth, I believe, remembering how sinful and weak I am there’s ALWAYS room for improvement. It hurts and feels offensive sometimes. Yes it does. Remember God ultimately is in charge and as David showed us in his psalms that even though life hurts God is always just merciful and kind. Especially to the weak and downtrodden. He doesn’t have much time for the proud. Unless they bow down.

    I haven’t yet read what our resident apologist said but I have to read him slowly and carefully. Just getting home from the post office.

  405. Beloved says:

    32 “Then the master called the servant in. ‘You wicked servant,’ he said, ‘I canceled all that debt of yours because you begged me to. 33 Shouldn’t you have had mercy on your fellow servant just as I had on you?’ 34 In anger his master handed him over to the jailers to be tortured, until he should pay back all he owed.

    35 “This is how my heavenly Father will treat each of you unless you forgive your brother or sister from your heart.”(I)

    There is an important principle here that we must forgive others of whatever sin others do to us; just as God has forgiven our sins.

  406. Beloved says:

    Notice Jesus said “my” Heavenly Father, not “our”.

    As street wrote there is a door that must be entered to be included in the Family of God.

  407. Hugger4U says:

    By Grace through Faith by the blood of the Lamb of God, Jesus the Christ. Jesus is the door…He is the WAY, TRUTH AND LIFE. The gate, the Shepherd…..etc!! The Bible is plain on that point.

    Where we falter most after salvation is in doctrine. Some have not received revelation on some things in the Word and just keep expounding on the foundation. Which is fine but some of us are in the process of maturing and have received more revelation in the Word. It isn’t because anyone is better than the other. It is because the Father chooses and Jesus reveals more to others. It was the same way while he was a man during his ministry. The Father chose the 12 and Jesus revealed the Father to them and not to the other disciples. He revealed more to them not because He loved them more but because the Father has a plan and we need to submit to Him and His plan if we truly love the Father we would love each other and not become jealous and/or argue or take up offense. The Father knows what we need and we don’t, trust me lol.

    So, in conclusion, LOVE GOD FIRST, LOVE OTHERS, and refrain from responding just to try to be heard and pound home your point. It just doesn’t work that way.

    Love you all and hope to meet you all in Heaven some day!! Come Lord Jesus! Amen.

  408. Beloved says:

    I love a good conversation about Jesus!

  409. foreverblessed says:

    I love that too!
    How has Jesus been my Savior, how has He been yours?
    Point taken Hugger. Mart had said in a topic on “Bullies”, just pray: “Father forgive, for they do not know what they are doing.”

    Intercessory prayer, God working through our prayers, prayed in unity. That is the foundation of any Christian work.

    But I don’t hope you mean I have to stop sharing about the search ( better word is: study) on the body and blood of Christ?
    I do not do that to press a point home, but because I find it such a treasure to have found!

  410. foreverblessed says:

    In the ODB of Jan 10, there is in the “reflect and prayer” section a link to a booklet “the forgivenes of God” it is written by Mart. I remember that years ago Mart mentioned that he was writing this.
    But now I have been reading it. A profound study, and the foundation is the Cross, how deep the forgiveness of God is. If we could receive and accept this great pardon. This relief of all wrong. Grace means accepting, nothing we have done, but opening our hands and hearts to receive what Jesus has done for us. And besides the forgiveness we receive His righteousness. That is even more incomprehensive: just receiving His righteousness, and that nothing of ourselves! It is Christ’s life flowing through us, to others. So we are His hands and feet to others. Naturally, just as grapes grow on the branches of the Vine! These things happen as long as I keep my eyes on Jesus!

  411. Hugger4U says:

    I love to discuss the Word and edify the Body of Christ in LOVE.

    Have a blessed day!

  412. poohpity says:

    One of the Pharisees asked Jesus to have dinner with him, so Jesus went to his home and sat down to eat. When a certain immoral woman from that city heard he was eating there, she brought a beautiful alabaster jar filled with expensive perfume. Then she knelt behind him at his feet, weeping. Her tears fell on his feet, and she wiped them off with her hair. Then she kept kissing his feet and putting perfume on them. When the Pharisee who had invited him saw this, he said to himself, “If this man were a prophet, he would know what kind of woman is touching him. She’s a sinner!” Then Jesus answered his thoughts. “Simon,” he said to the Pharisee, “I have something to say to you.” “Go ahead, Teacher,” Simon replied. Then Jesus told him this story: “A man loaned money to two people—500 pieces of silver to one and 50 pieces to the other. But neither of them could repay him, so he kindly forgave them both, canceling their debts. Who do you suppose loved him more after that?” Simon answered, “I suppose the one for whom he canceled the larger debt.” “That’s right,” Jesus said. Then he turned to the woman and said to Simon, “Look at this woman kneeling here. When I entered your home, you didn’t offer me water to wash the dust from my feet, but she has washed them with her tears and wiped them with her hair. You didn’t greet me with a kiss, but from the time I first came in, she has not stopped kissing my feet. You neglected the courtesy of olive oil to anoint my head, but she has anointed my feet with rare perfume. “I tell you, her sins—and they are many—have been forgiven, so she has shown me much love. But a person who is forgiven little shows only little love.” Then Jesus said to the woman, “Your sins are forgiven.” The men at the table said among themselves, “Who is this man, that he goes around forgiving sins?” And Jesus said to the woman, “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

  413. Beloved says:

    So profound- “Your faith has saved you; go in peace.”

    “My sins they are many His mercy is more”. A song I love. Faith makes the difference. No matter our personality. No matter what others think about us. Go in the peace of knowing it’s His forgiveness that matters.

  414. Beloved says:

    His Mercy Is More
    [Shane and Shane] by Matt Boswell and Matt Papa

    Verse 1
    What love could remember no wrongs we have done Omniscient all knowing He counts not their sum Thrown into a sea without bottom or shore
    Our sins they are many His mercy is more

    Verse 2
    What patience would wait as we constantly roam What Father so tender is calling us home
    He welcomes the weakest the vilest the poor
    Our sins they are many His mercy is more

    Verse 3
    What riches of kindness He lavished on us
    His blood was the payment His life was the cost We stood ‘neath a debt we could never afford Our sins they are many His mercy is more

    Chorus 1
    Praise the Lord His mercy is more Stronger than darkness new every morn Our sins they are many His mercy is more

  415. street says:

    thinking of three women. the first the woman at the well, the second the woman caught in adultery, and third woman at Simon’s meal with Jesus. seems to me all three picture Isreal a “metaphor.”

    thank God for letting gentiles coming near, in Christ Jesus!

    in the seed all the nations shall be blessed.

    grafted in. dying to the flesh grafted into a new body. new creation.

    The Vinedresser removes every unfruitful branch. He also prunes to make branches more fruitful.

  416. Beloved says:

    I really got pruned by my daughter in law yesterday.

    But, In place of the unfruitful branch a new one appeared. I never really before understood why Jesus said
    1. Let the children come to me, (I just thought he was being sure children were included)
    2. You must become as little children.

    What I knew before yesterday was that children are way more forgiving and forgetting of the sins and disappointments done to them. Then today I’m reminded of the attributes of love (1Corinthians13) AND that Jesus was using a child as an example of Gods love. Wow.

    I’m explaining poorly but it’s all to understand Jesus better. To become as a child. I do understand better and hope it will help me to love better as well as how loved I am.

    Yes, I apologized for failing them and although I cannot promise I will not fail them again I’m at Gods mercy for tomorrow. As are all.

  417. Beloved says:

    And yes I do know children can be demanding belligerent oppositional etc – they are children! Paul says to grow up and not stay children. Some of us grow very slow still reasoning as children reason. But there’s no excuse to love while we’re getting pruned. Forgive without number and when exhausted forgive again. That great circle.

  418. Beloved says:

    Excuse to not love, I meant.

  419. street says:

    28 There you will worship gods made by human hands—wood and stone that can neither see, hear, eat, nor smell. 29 But if you seek the Lord your God from there, you will find him, if, indeed, you seek him with all your heart and soul.[aw] 30 In your distress when all these things happen to you in future days, if you return to the Lord your God and obey him[ax] 31 (for he[ay] is a merciful God), he will not let you down[az] or destroy you, for he cannot[ba] forget the covenant with your ancestors that he confirmed by oath to them.Deuteronomy 4

    4 Hear, O Israel: The Lord is our God, the Lord is one![g] 5 You must love[h] the Lord your God with your whole mind,[i] your whole being,[j] and all your strength.[k]
    6 These words I am commanding you today must be kept in mind, 7 and you must teach[l] them to your children and speak of them as you sit in your house, as you walk along the road,[m] as you lie down, and as you get up. 8 You should tie them as a reminder on your forearm[n] and fasten them as symbols[o] on your forehead. 9 Inscribe them on the doorframes of your houses and gates.[p]

    thinking our heart is where we live and it has a door and doorframe. I have discovered when you teach you are being taught. when you disciple you are discipled.

    seems we are given pen and quil. seems best to let God do the writing on our homes. thinking of the son that returns to his Father. seems he had enough of good and evil.

  420. Beloved says:

    Ya I know I talk too much🤷‍♂️

  421. foreverblessed says:

    Good morning everyone, may God’s Light shine upon us today again, the Light, Jesus who shone with His Light in our hearts!
    Street has the “door” in mind.
    Jesus is also the Door, the Gate through which we enter into the spiritual realm.
    The Word of God says that we already are seated in the heavenly realms, Eph 2:6
    But it says: in Christ Jesus, not on our own. But in Him, which is a mystery to me, and yet I can believe that Word of God.
    Keep on talking, Beloved! Praising God.

  422. poohpity says:

    Jesus representing God to us:

    At that time Jesus prayed this prayer: “O Father, Lord of heaven and earth, thank you for hiding these things from those who think themselves wise and clever, and for revealing them to the childlike.

    Yes, Father, it pleased you to do it this way!

    “My Father has entrusted everything to me. No one truly knows the Son except the Father, and no one truly knows the Father except the Son and those to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”

    Then Jesus said, “Come to me, all of you who are weary and carry heavy burdens, and I will give you rest. Take my yoke upon you. Let me teach you, because I am humble and gentle at heart, and you will find rest for your souls. For my yoke is easy to bear, and the burden I give you is light.”

  423. Hugger4U says:

    Good morning all! Thank you Forever for the blessing!

    Just quickly checking in.

    We are so blessed to be living in such a time as this!

    My hope and prayer is that as we draw ever nearer to the Father that He will test our faith and strengthen us in the coming days. Making us ready for the last great harvest of souls.

    Lots happening ‘behind the scenes’ of what you can see with our natural eyes. It looks bleak in the natural but God is Spirit. Thank the Lord!

    Pray that the Lord will send harvesters into the fields that are ripe! The older generation is positioned to stand in the gaps and pray in the harvest while the younger generations are being positioned in the fields.

    Continue to pray for our/all nation’s salvation from evil influence in high places that want to rule. This is spiritual warfare, not against flesh and blood.

    Thank you for listening to the Lord every day and spending time with Him to be equipped to do good works which He prepared in advance for us to do.

    Love to all in Jesus!

  424. Beloved says:

    Jesus said “Come to me…..”.
    I was just listening to an African singing group sing “Have a Little Talk With Jesus”.
    Here’s the link. They are very good!

  425. street says:

    The Word of God says that we already are seated in the heavenly realms, Eph 2

    yes forever seated/ resting in Jesus

    Standing/ holding to the Word of God

    walking/ abiding in Him, in Spirit and Truth/ Thy Word is Truth.

  426. street says:

    5 [a] Therefore, since we have been declared righteous by faith, we have[b] peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ, 2 through whom we have also obtained access[c] into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice[d] in the hope of God’s glory.

    Romans 5:21
    so that just as sin reigned in death, so also grace will reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.

  427. Beloved says:

    My Utmost is so good today.
    I’m reminded of poohs question about the efficacy of using scripture against someone. Not even using it against myself is as efficient as getting alone with Jesus!

  428. foreverblessed says:

    Getting alone with God!!!
    Today is nr 2 on that subject. Someone commented:”This really speaks to me because it can be such a challenge to get quiet and alone with God but it is a must. Not only do I need Him, I do also want Him. Yet how often do I rob myself of his good presence and choose “fussing” over who knows what. God help me to be alone with you.”

    I just really liked how that was phrased.

  429. foreverblessed says:

    On a side note: our youngest son is living in the French Alps, for three months. In a facility for “digital nomads”. He works for a company in Amsterdam, but they allow him to work from other places, for 2 to 3 months. But… 2 of the 12 have Covid, and two days later, 5 of the twelve have it. Thet had a meeting last night together, and they have decided that it is impossible to quarantaine the sick, they share bathroom and kitchen and dining room. that they just consider everyone infected, just to get it over with. If you have a prayer for them! Thanks! I pray, above all, that God will save their souls! There are young people from all over the world, Canadians Americans, Russia, Romania, French Netherlands.

  430. foreverblessed says:

    This is so huge, just to repeat it over and over, and thank God for it. Street shared it last night, and I looked at it. Grace will reign. Reign!! Evil does not reign, neither sin, no: Grace will reign; which to me means: Grace is reigning in a life that is surrendered to Jesus.
    Why fear? Grace reigns!

    “..so also grace will reign through righteousness to eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.”

  431. poohpity says:

    How can one tell if grace is actually reigning in their heart?

  432. Beloved says:

    If Jesus is reigning in the heart grace is there too.

  433. Beloved says:

    Forever I will pray for your son at the hostel. This Covid has sure turned our world upside down- more than ever. There is debate about this being a man-made virus which would not surprise me one bit. But, as you say- why fear? God sent many plagues to Egypt and the Lord rescued His chosen people from every single one! His track record throughout scripture proves Him to be faithful and true as described in Revelation.

    I finally got my smell and taste back after a month. I love coffee more than ever. Some smells not so much😹

  434. Beloved says:

    Pooh I think that was a loaded question. I rescind my response. Ask Jesus yourself.

  435. Beloved says:

    “The name Faithful and True expresses the total trustworthiness, reliability, and constancy of Jesus Christ. The title reveals His character and makes known His words and works.” Copied

  436. Beloved says:

    Steve street and bubbles are you preparing for the next big snowstorm? It’s coming here tomorrow.

  437. SFDBWV says:

    Yes I am Joyce.


  438. poohpity says:

    Beloved, accusing me of having asked a loaded question is how you think and what comes from your heart, not mine. lol

  439. street says:

    How can one tell if grace is actually reigning in their heart?

    19 My children, with whom I am again in labor until Christ is formed in you—

    28 Therefore they said to Him, “What are we to do, so that we may accomplish the works of God?” 29 Jesus answered and said to them, “This is the “work of God”, that you believe in Him whom He has sent.”

    “work of God” or work of man?

    it is written that God rested from all His works on the seventh day.

    they could not enter His rest because of unbelief.

  440. street says:

    Jesus spoke of God working when He was here on earth and at the the cross Jesus said it is finished!

  441. poohpity says:

    I thought the answer would be quite simple for those that truly understand grace and how it reigns in our hearts, it would overflow outward to others that would be the evidence of grace reigning in our hearts.

  442. Beloved says:

    Anyone can do the works of grace.

    “Behold I stand at the door and knock, if any will…..”

  443. Beloved says:

    Spiritual Blindness
    35When Jesus heard that they had thrown him out, He found the man and said, “Do you believe in the Son of Man?”

    36“Who is He, Sir?” he replied. “Tell me so that I may believe in Him.”

    37“You have already seen Him,” Jesus answered. “He is the One speaking with you.”

    38“Lord, I believe,” he said. And he worshiped Jesus.

    39Then Jesus declared, “For judgment I have come into this world, so that the blind may see and those who see may become blind.”

    40Some of the Pharisees who were with Him heard this, and they asked Him, “Are we blind too?”

    41“If you were blind,” Jesus replied, “you would not be guilty of sin. But since you claim you can see, your guilt remains.”

  444. Beloved says:

    Pooh, you and the devil got a chuckle.

    Looking inward and up I am persuaded of my Savior, Jesus, full of grace and Truth. I patiently wait…

  445. bubbles says:

    Joyce, the snow is supposed to start here on Sunday and into Monday. Be safe and take care. Thank you.

  446. Beloved says:

    Thank you bubbles. Glad I’m no longer working but used to drive through pretty much anything with an SUV. I think we are probably better equipped here for weather. It’s “normal” lol. Hope you too are well and growing in grace! Joyce

  447. foreverblessed says:

    May God be with you all, in the snow storm. Did you read about the tragedy in Pakistan last week? Vehicles locked in by heavy snow, in the mountains, more than twenty people died! I don’t hear very often that people get frozen in their cars in the US, nor Canada. Is that a blessing that we missed? God protects us, and our country more than we know.

  448. foreverblessed says:

    The door
    Exodus 12:3,23
    The blood of the Lamb was put on the doorpost, left and right ( yes, the topic😉) and on the top-post. So that the angel of death would pass the door of the house. (That’s why the night is called Passover. Easter in our language is called Pasen). Just as we are now shielded by the blood of the Lamb, Satan cannot harm us, the blood of Jesus covers us, our door has blood on it, and the death angel passes by, he cannot enter.
    And another thing, when we started out as Christians we entered the Holies of Holies on the basis of the blood of Jesus, but it is always and every day again, on the basis of the blood of Jesus that we may go to the Throne of God. Not on anything we have done. And I had a sort of familiarity, the habit that I just entered in, and did not mention the blood. I had to state it all over again for myself lately. And not only entering God’s Throne, but feeling secure in this world: on the basis that we are shielded by the blood of the Lamb, I am secure, nothing in this world can harm me, well, my body can be harmed, but not my soul. Unless the adversary makes me to loose faith, makes me waver: will the blood of the Lamb be good enough? But the Word of God days so, and it will always be good.
    So the blood was on the doorpost, and inside the house the people ate the flesh of the Lamb that was slain, on that Passover night.
    “Whoever eats Me flesh”
    “And drinks My blood”
    The table of the Lord.
    Then we come into the circle, everything circles around Jesus, He is the Door, then we come in, and ear with Him. Or….Jesus turns it around: I and the Father come in (your inner being) and dine with you.

  449. foreverblessed says:

    Ear=eat with Him

  450. foreverblessed says:

    Street gave many verses on the door, I was going along on that idea, just to add what Street brought in.
    John says, that by faith we are shielded, that is faith in the blood of the Lamb that covers us. No amount of sinning can do away with the power of the blood, if we repent, that is.

  451. poohpity says:

    Beloved, if it is as YOU say and anyone can do the works of grace then what is stopping you? “Pooh, you and the devil got a chuckle.” Is that what grace looks like?

    forever, the angel of death passing over the places where the “first born” of the Israelite’s were because the blood of the Lamb was placed on the lentils had great meaning before the Exodus, along with the protection from of all the other horrors unleashed on the Egyptians to show that God favored Israel as His special people. Did the people of Israel earn that favor, no they acted similar to the Egyptians but it was for grace that God showed mercy and forgiveness to those who were so undeserving. When the people left Egypt if I remember correctly that also included Egyptians also another reflection of grace as that continues still till this day to those who are so undeserving like me.

  452. poohpity says:

    Luke 22: And he took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to them, saying, “This is my body, which is given for you. Do this in remembrance of me.” 20 And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, “This cup that is poured out for you is the ‘new covenant’ in my blood.

    Matt 26: Then He took the cup, gave thanks, and gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you. 28 This is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.

    So yes forever the body and blood are so important to remember the extent of God’s love for us because they are full of grace and help us as often as we share them together to remember all that was done for those who are so undeserving which after the resurrection and the help of the Holy Spirit mean so much to those who believe the amazing grace poured out on mankind.

  453. poohpity says:

    There is a really good song forever you might like by Amy Grant called, “Power In The Blood”.

  454. poohpity says:

    So many instances of the fulfillment of Old Covenant/Testament are found in Jesus.

  455. Beloved says:

    I never give grace to the devil. That is evil itself, Pooh.

  456. Beloved says:

    Forever I watched a YouTube video about the blizzard of 1949 that occurred in the western part of the US. Many people froze, their bodies found while digging out roads and snowdrifts. Animals too. Yet starting in 2019 we have an invisible storm that has claimed millions globally. I see the grace and mercy of God throughout. He’s so good.

  457. Beloved says:


    It’s best you and I don’t speak to one another because it always turns out badly even though I get my hopes up that we can have a civil conversation and not get yelled at by some here. However I’m done. Done trying and upsetting the blog. Bye.

  458. Beloved says:

    Psalm 32
    6Therefore let everyone who is godly
    offer prayer to you at a time when you may be found;
    surely in the rush of great waters,
    they shall not reach him.
    7You are a hiding place for me;
    you preserve me from trouble;
    you surround me with shouts of deliverance.

  459. Beloved says:

    Psalm 57
    7 bMy heart is csteadfast, O God,
    my heart is steadfast!
    I will sing and make melody!
    8 dAwake, my glory!2
    Awake, fO harp and lyre!
    I will awake the dawn!
    9 I will give thanks to you, O Lord, among the peoples;
    I will sing praises to you among the nations.
    10 For your steadfast love is great to the heavens,
    your faithfulness to the clouds.
    11 xBe exalted, O God, above the heavens!
    Let your glory be over all the earth!

  460. foreverblessed says:

    What a beautiful Psalm! May God give us the Joy of His Salvation, to sing this with all our hearts. On ODB it is about the death of Christ on the Cross. I like that topic, as you might expect! ;-)

  461. foreverblessed says:

    2 Kings 6:6 “and the iron did swim”

    There is a beautiful devotion on this subject, and for all sides this is a good one.

    “Beloved reader, what is thy desperate case? What heavy matter hast thou in hand this evening? Bring it hither. The God of the prophets lives, and lives to help his saints. He will not suffer thee to lack any good thing. Believe thou in the Lord of hosts! Approach him pleading the name of Jesus, and the iron shall swim; thou too shalt see the finger of God working marvels for his people. According to thy faith be it unto thee, and yet again the iron shall swim.”
    Spurgeon evening devotion January 13
    Praying to God, laying our frustrations at the foot of the Cross, and then the waiting is the hardest part. For Moses had to wait in the desert 40 years too, before the Israelites wanted his help, well God’s help through Moses. I have difficulty in this waiting. May God strengthen us while we wait.

  462. bubbles says:

    Thank you, Joyce. So far, so good. I have a small SUV, so I go when needed. My job has us go remote if the roads are dangerous, and thankful for that. Be safe.

    I love everyone here, and thankful for Mart who lets us have this connection and for his thinking and deep thinking topics.

  463. street says:

    thinking about seeking and fasting.

    there is an end point to seeking and fasting, Jesus.

    just like a courtship. to rest, hold to, abide in, – sit stand walk. Psalm 1.

    flesh and blood can not inherit the Kingdom.

    I Will Never Leave you nor forsake you.

    that Grace might reign in Righteousness unto eternal Life in Christ Jesus.

  464. poohpity says:

    street, when is there an end point to seeking and fasting?

  465. Beloved says:

    It’s too bad David never met Jesus while alive, but he knows Him now! Thinking of all the troubles we encounter while in the flesh yet thankful our years are short until we too see Jesus face to face! Hallelujah come LORD Jesus!

  466. Beloved says:

    Thinking of how God guides (Spirit)

    Sometimes He whispers to me sometimes He speaks in an audible voice but mostly through the scriptures. When I am in deepest distress He literally helps me open my Bible and shows me words of comfort hope and help. Yet for some Jesus has placed a veil around where only darkness prevails. How to open the eyes of the blind? Does prayer and fasting do it? No, like you said street only Jesus. I do pity those who cannot See. No Spirit no Jesus.

  467. Beloved says:

    I take that back. David did know Jesus very intimately as He revealed Himself to the world through David and many others.

  468. Beloved says:

    Wow bubbles I just saw a weather report predicting an inch or more of ICE in your area! Could be catastrophic please be safe and do you have a non-electric heat source? Praying for you and Steve with whatever comes his way also. Joyce

  469. Beloved says:

    Street got you shovel ready? Be safe!

  470. poohpity says:

    Acts 13:3, 14:23; Col 3:1; Hebrews 11:6

  471. street says:

    Enter His Gate with Thanksgiving and into His Cort with Praise.

  472. poohpity says:

    It brings me such joy, security and blessing to know that it will be God who separates the wheat from the chaff. The only one who knows the hearts and minds of those who say they are centered in Christ from those who actually are. Only God knows and I have faith and trust to rest in Him.

    street, I seems there is a difference in courtship and entering God’s court with praise. Doesn’t one have to do with relationships the other has to do with a place?

  473. Beloved says:

    5 For the LORD is good;

  474. bubbles says:

    I’m not aware of an ice here. The neighbors have a generator, so they said I can go to their house. This storm doesn’t frighten me. Thanks for your concern. If the electricy goes out, perishable things go out in the snow to they won’t spoil. :)

  475. Beloved says:

    “—may our hearts and minds resound more loudly with the history of Gods saving compassion than the noise of the disappointments that cross our paths.”
    Beeke and Cosby, None Else 2020

  476. poohpity says:

    First I want to apologize if me asking questions offends anyone they are meant to learn and grow not to offend. Even Jesus told us to “ask” and then in school I was taught “that the only dumb question is the one not asked”. Every devotional I have ever read asks questions at the end so that we can dig a little deeper. Isn’t asking questions to clarify better than assuming or jumping to conclusions? Again I apologize if by asking questions people find that offensive.

  477. street says:

    Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the Lord God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”

    the truth will make you free.

  478. street says:

    thinking of the relationship of the Call of God and The Word of God.

    what do they have in common? if you can call it common?

    a common need hunger and thirst.

    the end of hunger and seeking is Jesus Christ, Savior and LORD, that grace might reign in Righteousness unto eternal life in Him. Alpha and Omega.
    John 6:63
    The Spirit is the one who gives life; human nature is of no help! The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and are life.

    thinking living and active.

    if you abide in Me and My Word abides in you……

    if ywe ask according to His will

    Luke 11:13
    If you then, although you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will the heavenly Father give the Holy Spirit to those who ask him!”

  479. street says:

    13 I have written these things[a] to you who believe[b] in the name of the Son of God so that[c] you may know that you have eternal life.

    14 And this is the confidence that we have before him: that[d] whenever[e] we ask anything according to his will, he hears us. 15 And if we know[f] that he hears us in regard to whatever we ask, then we know that we have the requests that we have asked from him.

  480. street says:

    Luke 13:24
    “Exert every effort to enter through the narrow door, because many, I tell you, will try to enter and will not be able to.

    32 For the unconverted[a] pursue these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them. 33 But above all pursue his kingdom[b] and righteousness, and all these things will be given to you as well. 34 So then, do not worry about tomorrow, for tomorrow will worry about itself. Today has enough trouble of its own.[c]

    The Kingdom Rule in Spirit and Truth, Word of God.

    a rule of gracious generous merciful love and life.

    James 3:17
    But the wisdom from above is first pure, then peaceable, gentle, accommodating, full of mercy and good fruit, impartial, and not hypocritical.

  481. Beloved says:


  482. poohpity says:

    street, it is amazing that the one question asked that should mean life and importance to those who are centered in Christ you seem to have left out because it did not have “ask” in your search engine on the computer.

    Am I truly born again? Am I more interested in bringing Glory to God or bringing glory to myself?

  483. Beloved says:

    ◄ Psalm 24 ►
    American King James Version
    The Earth is the Lord’s
    1The earth is the LORD’s, and the fullness thereof; the world, and they that dwell therein.

    2For he has founded it on the seas, and established it on the floods.

    3Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?

    4He that has clean hands, and a pure heart; who has not lifted up his soul to vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.

    5He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

    6This is the generation of them that seek him, that seek your face, O Jacob. Selah.

    7Lift up your heads, O you gates; and be you lift up, you everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

    8Who is this King of glory? The LORD strong and mighty, the LORD mighty in battle.

    9Lift up your heads, O you gates; even lift them up, you everlasting doors; and the King of glory shall come in.

    10Who is this King of glory? The LORD of hosts, he is the King of glory. Selah.

  484. Hugger4U says:

    Joyce, thank you for sharing Psalm 24.

    Paul Wilbur did a song called “King of Glory”, using this Psalm.

    May we glorify the Lord together, holy is His Name!

    Have a blessed day!

  485. street says:

    poo you are right in asking questions, but you need to ask the One Who can answer them. it is easier to ask why? then to seek the answer. Jesus said to exert every effort to enter the narrow Door. many will try and not succeed.

    thinking of abiding seeking entering are all related to Truth, Jesus. the fulfillment of the law, Life giving Spirit.

    don’t trust your own heart or even your own intellect for in Christ Jesus is hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. He is very generous with gold silver and precious gems tested by fire.

  486. Hugger4U says:

    Street, thank you for your above post at 12:18pm (it is still morning here!).

    Asking the Lord questions is always good! I usually ask Him the ‘why’ question when something doesn’t sit right in my spirit either from a teaching or when something happens that upsets me. I usually hear right back from the Lord. It happened just this morning in our fellowship time.

    Sometimes I ask Him “what’s up Lord?”, when I feel something stirring in the Spirit. On that one it is normal for me to wait for Him a while but I am more ‘alert’ and ‘watching’ for the answer when He reveals it in whatever form He chooses.

    So many benefits from the Lord when we ask questions. That is part of seeking Him with all of our being and living a victorious life that He has made a way for those that answer His call and follow Him.

    Love to all,

  487. Beloved says:

    Yes I remember that song.

  488. poohpity says:

    Hopefully that is a given that we ask the Lord questions to learn His will, wisdom, guidance or direction but does that stop us from asking others questions? So street you are saying that instead of asking others questions we should assume and jump to conclusions so we feel justified when we call them names or assault their character or sit on the seat of judgement against them?

  489. poohpity says:

    If I am truly born again then I can depend on the Holy Spirit to convict me when I am in the wrong, change the way I treat others, change the way I desire and worship God, change where my focus is; on the things of this world or on the things of God, change how I read scripture and apply it to my life. Being born again to a new life that really changes how I see God and others.

  490. Beloved says:

    Remember to pray for bubbles and Steve as the storms are not finished.

    How is saled doing up there in the NE? Really a nasty mess with inches/feet of ice-snow with electric out in many parts.

  491. street says:

    that according to the riches of His glory He may grant you to be strengthened with power through His Spirit in your inner being, so that Christ may dwell in your hearts through faith….

    many Christians try and perform works words actions according to the flesh. works of intellect passion physical strength.
    Paul speak of this when he asked that we are saved by faith, now we are completed by the works of the flesh? the flesh and Spirit are at enmity with each other. Paul speaks of dying daily and Jesus speaks of taking up your cross daily. the cross has one end, Jesus has another ending in mind….namely life. a living sacrifice. a circle centered in God through Christ Jesus.

    thinking the new creation normal function is righteousness peace joy love….fruits of the Spirit. not of the flesh but of God.

    thinking of the Bareians being more noble, searching the Scriptures to verify what was said. we will never progress without denial of self, the cross, God’s Word and trust in His Word.

    20 And we know that the Son of God has come, and has given us understanding so that we may know Him who is true; and we are in Him who is true, in His Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God and eternal life.

    21 Little children, guard yourselves from idols.

    we have Gods Word and a new day. spend time with Him daily.

    the greatest idol we face is self. therefor a cross.

  492. bubbles says:

    Haven’t talked with Steve or Glenna today. Here did not receive the amount of snow predicted; we had some freezing rain and then snow. Had a two mile walk in the snow today. Electricity stayed on, and am thankful for a furnace that works and a sound roof. Thank you.

  493. foreverblessed says:

    Praying for you all!

    And these verses are beautiful, wonderful

    that he would grant you, according to the riches of his glory, that you may be strengthened with power through his Spirit in the inner person; Weymouth New Testament to grant you–in accordance with the wealth of His glorious perfections–to be strengthened by His Spirit with power penetrating to your inmost being.
    Eph 3:16

    We are in the true One—that is, in His Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life. American Standard Version And we know that the Son of God is come, and hath given us an understanding, that we know him that is true, and we are in him that is true, even in his Son Jesus Christ. This is the true God, and eternal life.
    1 John 5:20

  494. SFDBWV says:

    Well, Izzy was a tizzy.

    The storm total for the two days of its impact on us is 22 1/2 inches of snow.

    Yesterday being the worst with blizzard conditions most all day.

    No loss of power.

    Thank all of you who may have offered up prayers for us.

    My friend George is not doing well and now at 97 years of age he may be at the end of his battle. The next few days will tell.


  495. poohpity says:

    MLK Jr. conquered hate, his enemies and the violence with the heart of God by loving his enemies and not returning evil for evil. He was in the center of God’s love and showed it by his actions not with just his words.

  496. poohpity says:

    My Aunt and cousins were without power on Sunday it was 22 degrees F. with no heat in NC. Thankfully by the end of the day with prayer the power came back on and the animals were no longer pupsicles.

    Steve, glad y’all did not lose power. Praying God’s mercy and peace for George.

  497. saled says:

    Thanks for asking, Beloved. My husband plows and sands the roads as part of a 3 person crew here in our town, and he has been very busy. We did have blizzard conditions here, but because the snow eventually turned to rain, we did not get nearly as much snow as Steve’s 22 1/2 inches. And we did not lose power.

    Thank you all for the way you uplift Jesus and what he has done for us. I just finished reading Revelation of Love by Julian of Norwich, put in modern language in 1996 by John Skinner. Many of the things I took away from Julian’s
    revelations have been echoed here on this blog over the past weeks, confirming this great hope that we share, this great hope that because of Jesus’ magnificent work on the cross, all shall be well.

  498. Beloved says:

    Thank you saled I needed to hear that today. I’m familiar with Julian but haven read that book- yet.

  499. Beloved says:

    I am thankful all are safe and well. Praise God!

  500. foreverblessed says:

    Saled: “confirming this great hope that we share, this great hope that because of Jesus’ magnificent work on the cross, all shall be well.”
    Thank you for sharing that. That is a great encouragement! May God bless you, and your household.

  501. poohpity says:

    Dear brothers and sisters, the longing of my heart and my prayer to God is for the people of Israel to be saved. I know what enthusiasm they have for God, but it is misdirected zeal. For they don’t understand God’s way of making people right with himself. Refusing to accept God’s way, they cling to their own way of getting right with God by trying to keep the law. For Christ has already accomplished the purpose for which the law was given. As a result, all who believe in him are made right with God.

    For Moses writes that the law’s way of making a person right with God requires obedience to all of its commands. But faith’s way of getting right with God says, “Don’t say in your heart, ‘Who will go up to heaven?’ (to bring Christ down to earth). And don’t say, ‘Who will go down to the place of the dead?’ (to bring Christ back to life again).” In fact, it says,

    “The message is very close at hand;
    it is on your lips and in your heart.”

    And that message is the very message about faith that we preach: If you openly declare that Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. For it is by believing in your heart that you are made right with God, and it is by openly declaring your faith that you are saved. As the Scriptures tell us, “Anyone who trusts in him will never be disgraced.” Jew and Gentile are the same in this respect. They have the same Lord, who gives generously to all who call on him. For “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”

    But how can they call on him to save them unless they believe in him? And how can they believe in him if they have never heard about him? And how can they hear about him unless someone tells them? And how will anyone go and tell them without being sent? That is why the Scriptures say, “How beautiful are the feet of messengers who bring good news!”

    But not everyone welcomes the Good News, for Isaiah the prophet said, “Lord, who has believed our message?” So faith comes from hearing, that is, hearing the Good News about Christ. But I ask, have the people of Israel actually heard the message? Yes, they have:

    “The message has gone throughout the earth,
    and the words to all the world.”

    But I ask, did the people of Israel really understand? Yes, they did, for even in the time of Moses, God said,

    “I will rouse your jealousy through people who are not even a nation. I will provoke your anger through the foolish Gentiles.”

    And later Isaiah spoke boldly for God, saying,

    “I was found by people who were not looking for me. I showed myself to those who were not asking for me.”

    But regarding Israel, God said,

    “All day long I opened my arms to them,
    but they were disobedient and rebellious.”

  502. Beloved says:

    I Chronicles 16:41
    Berean Study Bible
    With them were Heman, Jeduthun, and the rest of those chosen and designated by name to give thanks to the LORD, for “His loving devotion endures forever.”

  503. Beloved says:

    16. Colossians 3:15-17

    Let the peace of Christ rule in your hearts, since as members of one body you were called to peace. And be thankful. Let the message of Christ dwell among you richly as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom through psalms, hymns, and songs from the Spirit, singing to God with gratitude in your hearts. And whatever you do, whether in word or deed, do it all in the name of the Lord Jesus, giving thanks to God the Father through him.

  504. Beloved says:

    Let the message of Christ ‘dwell among you richly’ as you teach and admonish one another with all wisdom
    (what has all wisdom?),
    through psalms hymns and songs from the Spirit.

  505. street says:

    16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel, for it is the power of God for salvation to everyone who believes, to the Jew first and also to the Greek. 17 For in it the righteousness of God is revealed [k]from faith to faith; as it is written: “[l]But the righteous one will live by faith.”

    29 And the jailer asked for lights and rushed in, and trembling with fear, he fell down before Paul and Silas; 30 and after he brought them out, he said, “Sirs, what must I do to be saved?”31 They said, “Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved, you and your household.”

  506. Beloved says:

    Had a very “real” conversation today with our maintenance guy fixing my heater. I happened to have on tv a conversation between a Christian apologetics professor and a book author discussing common grace. (YouTube)

    He asked who they were after listening for about a half an hour. He had never heard of them or the word “apologetics”. So I explained briefly what it meant along with the Gospel (born again) and he said he just started reading his Bible about a year ago. That he likes to think about what he reads, how confusing genesis is with all the people ( I get that!) but that since he started reading and would question something in his mind that very soon a sermon or talk would suddenly show up – I’m assuming online- that would tell him what he needed to know. This was all new to him.

    Oh how refreshing to talk with a baby Christian, how exciting to see God working in this younger (mid 30’s) man’s life with a family.

    His name is Abe. I don’t know his background but he is a very very kind guy. Lots of Amish and Mennonite people here. I’m so thrilled for him. And grateful God still uses me. Pray for his continued growth in grace.

  507. Beloved says:

    Come to think of it I had been wondering if I was still part of the Body of Christ just yesterday as difficulties beat me down pretty badly lately. God answered my questions also. 👰‍♂️

  508. Beloved says:

    1 Beautiful Savior, King of creation, Son of God and Son of Man! Truly I’d love Thee, truly I’d serve thee, Light of my soul, my Joy, my Crown.

  509. foreverblessed says:

    Praying for Abe!!!
    John Lennox, apologetics, is a good one for Genesis.

    O dear, Beloved, wondering if you are saved, when things go bad! Isn’t that just plain foolish! I do that myself, but…. having my eyes on Jesus, and what He has done for me, He washed all my sins in His Blood. So, no condemnation anymore, I can silence any thought in my mind as soon as it enters: Jesus took my penalty of eternal death, He bought me free! Point.
    And when I have sinned, His blood washes me clean again and again.
    Why are we so foolish to forget that when things go against us? Looking at Job’s story, you could even say: when disaster happens it is a sure sign that we ARE children of God, because the enemy attacks us! Jesus prayed for Peter: that his faith would stand. Jesus did not prevent Peter from being tempted. That’s a thing to think about isn’t it? Even though when we fail, we immediately turn our eyes on the Cross of Jesus, and believe in His atoning sacrifice.
    May we stand firm in that faith. And even more believe that we are new in Christ, and live in His resurrection life power.

  510. poohpity says:

    That does not happen to just baby Christians but to any Christian that is truly seeking and God knows their heart so that will happen regularly over many years of humbly asking and searching to know the Lord. After all that is just one way the Holy Spirit is our tutor and guide.

    There are ways that we can quench or grieve that Spirit so that it is not so easy to hear from Him.

    Since you have heard about Jesus and have learned the truth that comes from him, throw off your old sinful nature and your former way of life, which is corrupted by lust and deception. Instead, let the Spirit renew your thoughts and attitudes. Put on your new nature, created to be like God—truly righteous and holy.

    So stop telling lies. Let us tell our neighbors the truth, for we are all parts of the same body. And “don’t sin by letting anger control you.” Don’t let the sun go down while you are still angry, for anger gives a foothold to the devil.

    If you are a thief, quit stealing. Instead, use your hands for good hard work, and then give generously to others in need. Don’t use foul or abusive language. Let everything you say be good and helpful, so that your words will be an encouragement to those who hear them.

    And do not bring sorrow to God’s Holy Spirit by the way you live. Remember, he has identified you as his own, guaranteeing that you will be saved on the day of redemption.

    Get rid of all bitterness, rage, anger, harsh words, and slander, as well as all types of evil behavior. Instead, be kind to each other, tenderhearted, forgiving one another, just as God through Christ has forgiven you.

  511. bullwinkle11 says:

    Beloved, thank much for the story of Abe, it reminds me so much of my journey of faith. Whenever my mentor and I would discuss something from scripture, my role being the antagonist, within days an event would occur that would confirm that his point of view in our discussion was correct. Will be praying for Abe.

    Pooh, without looking it up, I assume that you were posting Romans 10 above. Really just needed to confirm that you were using the New Living Translation. For me, it makes scripture really clear.

  512. Beloved says:

    I think God delights in His children even when they fall toward unbelief because if it were up to us we would all fall short of the Glory of God. But it’s not up to us!!! It is God who saves. We can’t make ourselves born again it’s a work of the Spirit. Humbling and Holy work.

    Paul chastised the Galatians for going back to Gnosticism when they had a wonderful Savior who completed Gods plan for these early believers. A grace for sure! Gods grace! Oh to know Him more as we read the scriptures and experience Him daily.

  513. Beloved says:

    I was thinking of Nicodemus who came alone to speak to Jesus AFTER Jesus came to see him in the synagogue.

  514. Beloved says:

    Dear Forever ever since I read Romans 8 I quit calling myself foolish and other derogatory names. Those are descriptions under law, but not under grace. That in itself is a grace of God. Through faith! Alone!! Amazing! I’m sure you agree😊

    This comes to mind:
    I John 3: 18Little children, let us love not in word and speech, but in action and truth. 19And by this we will know that we belong to the truth, and will assure our hearts in His presence: 20Even if our hearts condemn us, God is greater than our hearts, and He knows all things.

  515. poohpity says:

    bullwinkle, no need to assume you are spot on. I think the same way about that translation. Keep it simple, Saint! (K.I.S.S.)

  516. poohpity says:

    32 years ago for Christmas my mom bought me the “Life Application Bible” in the Living Translation so that has been what I have grown up in Christ reading. The year after that I joined a 5 years bible study called BSF and we could only use the KJV but for my quiet time I still used the LT/NLT but I have read in different translations like NIV, NKJV and another of my favorites is the ESV. I believe that it is a personal thing as to what translation a person uses just as long as they read the bible, to me that is the most important thing.

  517. poohpity says:

    I also own two antique bibles one from the American Bible Society printed in 1899 and the other printed in 1893.

  518. Beloved says:

    PSALM 34
    The Happiness of Those Who Trust in God
    A Psalm of David When He Pretended Madness Before Abimelech

    1 I will bless the Lord at all times; His praise shall continually be in my mouth.

    2 My soul shall make its boast in the Lord;
    The humble shall hear of it and be glad.

    3 Oh, magnify the Lord with me,
    And let us exalt His name together.

    4 I sought the Lord, and He heard me,
    And delivered me from all my fears.

    5 They looked to Him and were radiant,
    And their faces were not ashamed.

    6 This poor man cried out, and the Lord heard him,
    And saved him out of all his troubles.

    And He still does deliver! Thank you, LORD

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